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🎯 Loads of miserable wealthy people out there Hot people who are unhealthy in other ways Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:06 PM
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I wonder how much of it is that many women want to see their man as masculine, "alpha", etc and they associate any kind of perceived homosexuality with femininity / weakness. I do think homophobia is an extension / reflection of internalized misogyny and patriarchy. It's a fallacious wrapping up of gender with sexuality. "No REAL man could ever be gay!", and these women would see themselves as kind of gay for being with a bi man, because for them that bi-man isn't fully/truly a man. And so they …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:09 PM
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His lonely asscheeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:19 AM
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Heterosexual women being more particular in partner choice than their male counterparts is the direct result of the greater risks they face from sexual activity and in no way implies that women "want it less" than men. In fact, the modern scientific understanding of human sexuality strongly implies that women typically have sex drives that match men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:26 PM
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Supply and demand; younger women are more sexually liberated than are older; younger women are more comfortable with and better educated about sex and sexual health, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:03 AM
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Most women do want sex, in fact, the majority want it just as badly as most men do. However, for heterosexual women, the risk:reward calculation is extremely different. Hetero women also typically have far less satisfying sexual encounters than their biological male peers do. These factors must not be overlooked in an analysis of apparent disparities in sexual desire between men and women. https://www.psycnet.org/buy/2024-52981-001 The risk:reward calculation for heterosexual women includes a fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:56 AM
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Lolllll 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:26 PM
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Yep, nailed it sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:25 PM
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The United States presidential election, for one. Lotta men 18-29 voted red.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:24 PM
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Brilliant 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 12:54 AM
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That's the funniest shit I've read all day. Gonna host a party with door vibe check, any man above 5'8" or without a wedding band on isn't getting in. Lesbians will be a bit trickier to screen for but we'll figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:46 PM
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Cite your sources. Where is the data to support your claim that only a small fraction of men are desirable to all (or even most) heterosexual women? Women are not a monolith. If what you claim were true, only a tiny fraction of men would be in relationships. Yet 73% of men 30-64 years old are in relationships. How do you explain that? https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:09 PM
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Reread what I wrote: "why do some men assume every (or even many/most)" The poster I responded to used the word "typically" (ie most often) taken to mean, and then went off about how women think of men as security blankets they'll settle for in exchange for financial security.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:04 PM
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"Numerous horror stories" sure sounds a lot like a collection of anecdotes you've assembled in your mind and used to construct a narrative about women. I bet you wouldn't like it if women were doing the same to men. In fact, I bet you'd label it as misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:03 PM
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How is that even remotely related to what's being discussed, which is that most women don't want to marry someone who they're not attracted to? What's your point here? Some women cheat. And that's shitty. Some men cheat. And that's shitty too. Relationships involve emotional risk , they involve trust. Sometimes we get hurt, we chose to place our trust in a person that wasn't worthy of it. Move on, find a better partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:20 PM
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K but no woman is going to ever say that unless you're already sexually intimate with one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:57 PM
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Why do so many men assume every (or even many/most) women want to marry a man they don't feel passionately about attraction wise? I can't speak for all women but sexual chemistry / "spark" is one of my baseline pre-requisites for even considering a long term relationship, let alone marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:56 PM
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Why are we assuming they've not in their 20s? Why are we also assuming these two hypothetical people have known each other since their 20s? Why are we also assuming they didn't hook up in their 20s? Reflect on why you felt the need to immediately put yourself in the sexually frustrated 20-something position.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:55 PM
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These things are not mutually exclusive. Masculinity is not a zero-sum game between being attractive, sex and cool and being kind, loyal, gentle, and dependable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:51 PM
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That depends on how you define choice. I mean, a person can technically choose homelessness, exposure to Arizona heat in summer or new york cold in winter. A person can choose hunger over income. A person can choose living paycheck to paycheck living with rats and roaches in a slum apartment for their entire life. Some do. But many will unsurprisingly seek a better life, and within the context of this system, women are naturally going to exercise all their options. It's not that difficult to und…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:54 AM
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Because we won't sign your unhinged "nothing I do to you can be rape tonight!" Form? Suit yourself, there's plenty of happy, healthy, confident men out there who have no problem trusting women because they know they practice good consent and aren't paranoid about their own inability to respect another human being's wishes in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:45 AM
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And my point was the tiny fraction of people killed unjustly doesn't justify trying to make women sign a consent form. It's completely deranged to even think any woman would be willing to do that. It'd be a huge red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:13 AM
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Single mom's probably don't. You can't feed and shelter kids with minimum wage in most places in 20w5
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:08 AM
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Not forced, economically coerced. No signature, no payment. In some cases forced. Women have been locked in rooms with men twice their size blocking the only door out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:47 PM
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She shouldn't have been murdered with or without a trial. I'm not trying to justify extra judicial executions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:24 PM
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Okay, and? I'm not condemning the kid to jail here, just stating the public evidence. There were love letters written. And the kid lied to the police. OJ Simpson also wasn't proven guilty in a court of law. Everyone knows he did it. At least 200 people have been exonerated from death row in the United States since 1973, according to the Death Penalty Information Center (DPIC). This means that for every eight people executed, one person was wrongfully condemned to death. The justice system isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:06 PM
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In porn, they make you do these recorded exit interviews as a stipulation for payment. They do this because they very often mislead these women about what sort of things are going to happen to them, they don't stop if the women ask, they don't care if she's sore. It's very close to, and in many cases IS rape, as the woman has been both coerced and misled. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58346125 https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/article/behind-the-onlyfans-porn-boom-allegations-of-rape-ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:18 AM
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It's every sane woman's reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:14 AM
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The woman you linked was a pedo involved in a relationship with a teenage boy that was her student. That student is very likely the one who murdered her, in a crime of passion. So maybe not the best example for "falsely accused" of (statutory) rape. https://beavercountian.com/content/cops-courts/rachael-deltondo-stalked-by-jeter-love-letter-lied-about-location-during-murder-changed-clothes-after
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:10 AM
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It's not a slur, it simply has negative connotations. Incdl stands for involuntarily celebite. Which is an accurate description of that poster given their posting. No one with a satisfying sex life spends time and energy online trying to convince people that loneliness and sexlessless are one and the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:24 PM
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Seems pretty straightforward to me. Sex and affection are two different things. Sex usually includes affection, but affection does not always include sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:56 PM
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Seems pretty straightforward to me. Sex and affection are two different things. Sex usually includes affection, but affection does not always include sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:56 PM
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Forget it, the incel is being obtuse. They are not willing to reason this out with logic because they are emotionally invested in conflating sexlessnese with loneliness, as if convincing this subreddit of that lie would change the reality on the ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:55 PM
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So glad we have you here to tell everyone what our views REALLY are by shoving a pill down our throats. I don't do pills, I do observation, data, and analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:50 PM
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Ding ding ding
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:48 PM
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Misogyny and objectification.txt
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:05 PM
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That's fine. Others will.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:09 PM
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Thank you for admitting you were wrong. You're growing! 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:07 PM
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Seems like you're mistaking assertiveness for entitlement here, chief. "Taking what you want" is an action reserved for those in positions of power over others. Speaks volumes about your character.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:07 PM
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Women can and do orgasm even while being raped. You are grossly misinformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:03 PM
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You: dodges my simple question with an irrelevant rant about the Supreme Court, then claims I'm the one waffling by acting as if intellectual integrity matters in online discourse. Which it does. demands I "answer your questions" without having asked me a single question in any of our interactions since this discussion began. Zero self-awareness on this guy. Major red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:47 PM
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I'm a loyal, kind, compassionate woman who has never once cheated in her 38 years of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:28 AM
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Both men and women dislike monogamy? So why are ya'll still doing it? 😆 Polyamory is right there! we do, because it's easy So is drunk driving, being a deadbeat parent, beating your wife, abuse of power as politicians or police, I could go on... No we don't, because despite your inaccurate misanthropic worldview, most human beings are NOT total assholes most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:50 AM
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Two things cannot be the "most pathetic" at the same time. So which do you feel is the more pathetic?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:49 AM
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So you don't think "blocked and reported 😭😡" is the most pathetic way to comport oneself in online discourse? What we have here is red pill / incels circling the wagons to protect their wounded, folks. Nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:32 AM
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I have absolutely zero need for your attention honey. I'm more than happy with the world seeing this exchange and drawing their own conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:27 AM
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Lmao just the absolute thinnest skinned crybabies imaginable out here calling for the most toxic, selfish, cowardly behavior in response to the slightest inkling of blue balls. THIS IS WHY WOMEN WON'T FUCK YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE. GROW UP! Look at the ZERO karma of your OP and take a hint. Fuck's sake!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:15 AM
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are you in favor of duty sex? I'm in favor of mutual enthusiastic consent at all times from the first kiss to the last cummies. If that consent is lost at any point during sexual activity and the other partner doesn't stop, we have a word for that. That word is rape. it's propaganda Yes it is. In fact, all writing is propaganda by definition. That word literally just means "that which propagates", so any information qualifies. More to the point, everyone has a worldview, everyone has an agenda. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:11 AM
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Jesus Christ, you hate women sooo much my guy. "Punishment"? They aren't slaves. They're partners in a relationship, and that should involve mutual respect, trust, and compassion. Without those 3 things what you have is a toxic/abusive relationship dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:50 AM
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Very few men are with women who match their libido, I suspect. Many men in happy relationships still use porn either occasionally or regularly. Your argument would give every one of these guys carte Blanche to cheat on their partners, placing them at both emotional AND physical risk (STIs).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:49 AM
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Cheating is a cowardly and selfish act. No one should cheat. If ANY of your relationship needs aren't being met, that warrants a conversation. If it continues after that conversation for long enough, end the relationship like a grown ass adult. This is called integrity. This is called basic human decency. We don't go around stabbing each other in the heart because we're unhappy in a relationship. We communicate, and when necessary, we compassionately and respectfully end that relationship. I swe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:46 AM
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I never claimed that it must be true by virtue of being online, that's a strawman argument. It is true because it is true, and you have just as much ability to confirm its truth with your own research as I do. We have nearly the entire compendium of human knowledge at our fingertips 24/7. Use it. https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/is_there_science_behind_the_five_love_languages Gary Chapman is a Southern Baptist Pastor pushing a conservative agenda through a misleading book. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 03:18 PM
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Love languages? Oh here we fuckin go again. 🙄 https://medium.com/belover/the-love-languages-are-a-hoax-by-a-southern-baptist-pastor-cc9cd0e4b340 Cope and seethe more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:53 PM
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It doesn't, because you didn't know that until I said it. Also, imagine quoting the hypocrite and phony philosopher Ayn Rand and expect to be taken seriously in online discourse. 💀 She constantly preached an ethos which she believed to be “good” for others, while doing things that violated that same ethos when it came to her own personal well-being and benefit. Since no one was likely going to know about her receiving government benefits until after her death (if ever) she simply did not care ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:23 AM
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This isn't a country, it's a worldwide social media site. But let's set that aside for a moment. Freedom to write in a deliberately misleading way online does not shield a poster from criticism, skepticism, or debate. Nor should it. "We feel free because we lack the very language to articulate our unfreedom." -Slavoj Zižek "America touts itself as the land of the free, but the number one freedom that you and I have is the freedom to enter into a subservient role in the workplace. Once you exerci…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:40 AM
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It's not one topic, it's two. That's my point. OP is almost certainly deliberately grouping them into a single package for the sake of pushing a narrative, as so often happens on this sub with black and red pill men constantly attempting to conflate sex with intimacy and connection. I will continue to call this misleading behavior out every time I see it whether you like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:46 AM
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I'll say this: I think it's a bit problematic that OP chose "sex/intimacy" being gtmrouped as one tor the hypothetical, as those are two very different issues. If all intimacy is removed than yes, that would be terribly destructive to all opposite sex relationships, including friendships. My response was specifically addressing the removal of only sex as the hypothetical, because I thought it unproductive to try and address both at once. It should be obvious to anyone that no meaningful and last…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 10:15 PM
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Counterpoint: without the risks and pressures of hetero sexual dynamics, friendships between opposite sexes would be simpler and lower stakes. Women would trust more easily and men would be more authentic and vulnerable around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:12 PM
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I reread and now understand what you meant. My apologies, I had a deep visceral emotional reaction (disgusting, anger) to your statement about racism being bad being a potentially subject value judgment, because, well, it isn't. It's the realization of an objective truth. But I understand what you meant and will edit the post to reflect that understanding now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:19 PM
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Lol you're a racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:31 AM
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You're confusing ethics with law. "A set of rules" decided upon by community consensus (not how it works btw) would describe laws formed in an egalitarian society (which we don't have). Ethics is not based upon what any community thinks. It is based upon observable truth. Ethics is not subjective. Morality is. Your claim that abortion is unethical because "lots of people think so" is utter nonsense. Lots of people thought interracial marriage was unethical not so long ago, but the objective trut…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:15 AM
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I'm not jealous of anyone honey, you're just projecting now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:16 PM
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not getting inti Roe v Wade, but the majority did vote that it is unethical You just did. Ahhh, I see. You think truth is a popularity contest. You think bc some people voted to take away women's rights (Roe v wade), that makes it ethical. In that case, you're too far gone bc you drank the conservative koolaod. Which means you're sadly beyond my help, as you've abandoned reason in fabor of superstition. We're done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:15 PM
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Oompa Loompa doompa-dee-do I've got a perfect puzzle for you Oompa, Loompa, doompa-dee-dee If you are wise, you'll listen to me What do you get when you guzzle down sweets? Eating as much as an elephant eats What are you at getting terribly fat? What do you think will come of that? I don't like the look of it Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-da If you're not greedy, you will go far You will live in happiness too Like the Oompa, Loompa, doompa-dee-do Doompa-dee-do
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:45 PM
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3 examples do not prove a rule. You have to look at an entire data set (all laws of a single nation or state, for example), not just three you personally cherry picked out of confirmation bias. This is a classic case of a conclusion in search of evidence. In science we start with the evidence, and then attempt to draw conclusions. You've put the cart before the horse here. Also: "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:11 PM
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Willy Wonka's chocolate factory, with the Oompa Loompas.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:07 PM
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Santa's workshop
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:23 PM
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5'7" men ARE taller than nearly half of men by statistical definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:50 AM
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Comparison is the thief of joy. If you're that sex-driven, you could always opt for a sex-change operation to become a woman yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:47 AM
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This is the way. I don't do yoga to get good glutes and a small waist, I do it for me. For my emotional well being. That other shit is a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:11 AM
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I've dated plenty of guys 5'5ish -5'7"ish. I assure you that your defeatist attitude about height is 100% just as self-inflicted self-sabotage as anything else mentioned above. I could understand it a bit more if we were talking about 5'0 and below, but 5'7" is literally ONE INCH below average male height.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:09 AM
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You're missing that a ton of guys are treating these women as side pieces with little or no meaningful commitment. It's strictly about getting their dicks wet more often than they otherwise would in a more competitive dating market. It's often friends with benefits. Most of these guys wouldn't be down if being with these women meant they couldn't also pursue more attractive partners at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:21 AM
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The only point I disagreed on is your claim that cheating was illegal, not that I agreed with cheating. Ethics and law are two very different things. There's some overlap some of the time, but they are very much not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:41 AM
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So 6 states out of 50. None of which I live in. All of which are ass-backwards conservative bible-thumping strongholds legislating from outdated and throughly unscentific legal philosophies. Nor am I (nor will I ever be) a member of the armed forces. Nor would I ever let the law impact my behavior in a relationship, for better or worse. I don't cheat because it's selfish, immature, and deeply hurtful behavior. I pity anyone who requires the fear of legal consequences to make them behave ethicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:31 AM
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It's not a CRIME, it's not addressed in criminal court. It IS a totally selfish, unethical, and cowardly act. It IS deeply hurtful and completely inconsiderate of the feelings (pain) you will cause to someone you claim to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:44 PM
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That's just normal / no pill. Not wanting to change implies your needs are being met, which means you don't HAVE to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:22 PM
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Oh my bad, I didn't realize I was on the clock.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:30 PM
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Here we go again, conflating "love" with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:55 PM
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Anarchist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:46 AM
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Every hour, at least two women are sexually assaulted and every six hours, a young married woman is beaten to death, burnt or driven to suicide. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4216486/#:~:text=Latest%20figures%20from%20the%20National,burnt%20or%20driven%20to%20suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:01 PM
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Whoa whoa whoa wait.. hold up. Imma let everything else go but, (lol media doesn't support patriarchy !! Hahaha) , you think mitherfucking INDIA of all place is women centric?! Do you not know about the prevalence of rape and general violence against women in that nation? The harems for wealthy men? The huge protests and women led riots that occur everytime a woman is brutally raped and murdered on a bus? The brilliant young female doctor who was brutally gangraped to death with a metal pipe, he…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:18 PM
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You good dog? Need a hug?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:03 PM
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Where, "logical" = "hateful", "ignorant", etc. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:00 PM
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Sure dog, it's called capitalism. New York City has over half a trillion dollars of gold (6,300 metric tons) stored 50 feet below street level in lower Manhattan. There's 350,000+ homeless right now, many of them out on the streets in this cold ass winter. The NYC dept of homeless services annual budget is 4 billion dollars. The NYPD budget is 11 billion dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:30 AM
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Cool work putting words on my mouth on a site where all users posts are public. Really cool stuff, definitely repping men well here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:27 AM
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What do those numbers represent? Do you have a source to back your claim that women are more likely to leave a job than are men? (outside pregnancy, which is legally mandated time off not quitting)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:08 AM
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This sub is 100% a redpill / incel hub, and the mods not only tolerate it but encourage it and harass folks who push back with repeated warnings about 'contentless rhetoric' from an anonymous "mod only account", which prevents responses to itself, if you dare try to inject some much needed humor or whimsy. It's a hate sub for misogynists that also happens to have a small minority of reasonable posters genuinely interested in meaningful dialogue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 11:52 PM
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Lol yep. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:29 AM
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One things for sure: We are not going to fix a culture of lying by throwing more lies around at each other. We have to go in the complete opposite direction if we want to arrive somewhere sane and healthy. That's going to take a tremendous amount of patience, honesty, courage, compassion, introspection, and discipline from all of us, no matter where we may fall on the gender identity or sexuality spectrums.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:14 AM
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We are not going to fix a culture of lying by throwing more lies around at each other. We have to go in the complete opposite direction if we want to arrive somewhere sane and healthy. That's going to take a tremendous amount of patience, honesty, courage, compassion, introspection, and discipline from all of us, no matter where we may fall on the gender identity or sexuality spectrums.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:13 AM
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40% of new york residents age 23-65 have roommates in 2025. That's 3,200,000 people with roommates in one of the wealthiest cities on Earth. A city with 577 BILLION dollars of gold 50 feet below ground in lower Manhattan in the New York Federal Reserve vault, by the way. Maybe you didn't get the memo, but we're on the fast train to mass serfdom in this country now. You best start believing in cyberpunk dystopias, Mr. Zelingman. You're in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:57 PM
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Shut your mouth, misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:56 PM
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You're right, you've convinced me. Your invocation of the mythical Chad has convinced me, a grown ass woman in 2025, that we should roll back the clock of women's rights and liberties 50+ years so incels can own us like property again and use us as the sex dolls and baby factories we are. For male happiness I would gladly trade lesser pay, lesser respect, lesser dignity, consequence-free domestic violence, lack of body autonomy, clothes-hanger abortions, and commonplace rape without repercussion…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:48 PM
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Unfortunately for us women, we can't get the seriousness of love and connection that our culture used to value back without all the other Christian baggage that came with it. That very much includes us being second class citizens with less rights and liberties than men. Which, by the way, is precisely what Trump and his administration are trying to do as we speak. They want to turn us back into objects owned by men. Is that a worthwhile trade to you? Would you trade the respect for and sanctity …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:40 PM
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I respect it. It's a futile philosophy, but there's integrity in holding to your ideals in the face of their collapse in society. I agree romance, dating, and relationships are all in a sad state for affairs today, although I suspect we might disagree about the root causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:47 PM
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Unfortunately, your potential partners aren't going to care what you think about their relationship decisions as both men and women continue abandoning and avoiding marriage in droves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:32 PM
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"I'm talking about real commited monogamous relationship." proceeds to admit this idealized monogamous romantic relationship hardly exists at all in actual lived experience 2025 Interesting choice of words, but I feel like maybe you don't know what the word "real" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 09:41 PM
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They know and they do not care. If they did they would edit or remove all the downvoted comments. The people making these utterly disingenuous arguments about (men's) right to access to sex (from women's bodies) are not honest and should not be taken seriously. Inf act they should be mocked and driven out of spaces intended for open and honest dialogue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 09:34 PM
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Men and women are not equal! They are not treated, respected, or paid equally. But they should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 09:31 PM
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Tell me you've never lived in NY (as a non-trust fund kid) without telling me. Everyone here has roommates. I know a profesional chef making close to 6 figures who lives in Brooklyn. Two roommates. Also what you are saying about romantic partners is untrue. Not every partner will choose you over career advancement or even LESS impactful life decisions. That's before we discuss the growing poly community. You're thinking of a healthy and strong-founded marriage. Let's not even look at sky-high di…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 09:27 PM
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Muddying the conversation is the whole point. These people are doing this deliberately OVER AND OVER (on this sub in particular) with tacit Moderator approval, which makes me feel strongly that r/PurplePillDebate is just redpill bullshit thinly veiled as a place for open and honest exchange with the aim of pushing a toxic narrative down our throats. It is intellectual dishonesty at its worst, and we have an ethical duty to call out their bullshit. Thank you for doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 09:24 PM
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How do you wipe an IDEA off the face of the Earth? We're in 2025, not even the nazis could totally control ideas. Nor the chattel slave owners of the American south. Nor the puritans long before we had telecommunications of any sort, at a time when religion had a near total lock down on the boundaries of acceptable ideas, at a time when having the "wrong" ideas usually meant being burned alive and/or otherwise tortured. Jesus Christ, so many people on this sub have zero capacity for logical thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:16 PM
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If feminism has made a man weak, I'm gonna go ahead and say he wasn't strong to begin with. 🎯 Source? Narrator: No sources were provided, and OP was never heard from again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:12 PM
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100% agree with everything you wrote with the important exception of labeling all male feminist as "simps melding for female attention", which is most definitely an unfair generalization, knowing some actual male feminist allies from left community spaces (I don't mean online). Also I wanted to add that what you described above really fucks up trans folks mentally. Imagine having aspects of both genders and it being drilled into you your entire life that masculinity and feminity have little to n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:05 PM
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I understand where you're coming from but this unfortunately veers into very dangerous territory in terms of our legal system. If a decision you made about career sacrifice for the sake of child rearing, 5, 10, 30 years ago could be used in a divorce case for additional compensation, what COULDN'T be? Divorce is already messy enough, let's not go trying to use our regrets to extract more money from men. Why? Many reasons, one of which is because that's how you get an entire country of men uninte…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 03:14 PM
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You've been suicidal but don't think happiness and love are requisites for human survival? You sure bout that one? This really the hill you choose to make your stand homeslice?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:51 PM
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Tell me you've never experienced suicidality without telling me. Happiness and love are 100% necessary for survival - this applies to all primates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:12 PM
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"Philosophically considered" doing a galactic singularity's amount of heavy lifting above.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:55 PM
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Socioemotional needs are the psychological, social, and emotional aspects of a person's well-being. They include the ability to form relationships, manage emotions, and be resilient. Examples of socioemotional needs: Self-awareness: Recognizing and understanding your own emotions Self-regulation: Managing your emotions Empathy: Understanding and sharing the feelings of others Communication skills: Expressing yourself verbally and navigating social situations Resilience: Handling challenging situ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:14 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:07 AM
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The algorithm heaved this trashpile upon me, because it knew I'd engage. They're designed to do that across all social media, btw. I take zero responsibility. And after multiple warnings on the previous thread, whilst my opponents got none for espousing ignorant and hareful rhetoric, i will make it my personal mission to shutter this shitheap. These mods suck shit and should have no power anywhere ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:28 AM
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By this definition a $6000 new gaming PC is a need. I now demand your tax dollars pay for it. If you disagree, you are logically inconsistent (hypocritical).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:24 AM
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That mods are letting this SECOND topic stand after this was already hashed out here less than 24 hours ago is revealing. Might be time to shut this misogynistic sub down if it's just red pill bullshit thinly veiled as debate. Paging r/AgainstHateSubreddits
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:21 AM
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No, I'm saying we collectively do not care about poor people starving. Holds true both at home and abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:16 AM
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Triviallly solvable problem, requires a shift in values and thinking. There's a blood shortage because We don't value saving people's lives as a culture, we value profit. Sealioning. Disengaging from this interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:45 AM
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Yes you are misunderstanding. In a sane, just , and compassionate society - which is a prerequisite to get to the kind of society I described above - this would be both impossible and totally unnecessary. Of course, i do understand that this is difficult for most people (esp non sic fi fans!) to grasp. Getting you to see the potential and possibility of the future i envision is not so different from trying to describe modern medicine to a medieval knight. But i assure you, everything I mentioned…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:59 AM
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Absolutely yes I do. We as a global 21st century civilization can do so, so , so, so ,so much better than we are at taking care of one another and ourselves as individuals. That we do not is a travesty, a tragedy, and a shame upon all of us. You may as well ask if I support slavery, tyranny, or cannibalism. Those things all persisted well past their proper expiration dates because of a lack of responsibility, a lack of Humility, a lack of honesty, a lack of collective conviction, courage, and co…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:22 AM
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Why are we suddenly in 9th grade algebra? Say what you mean. You either: A. Think blood transfusions aren't necessary life-saving care B. Think access to sex for men is Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:05 PM
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Do you actually believe you made no implication in your OP when you tried to equate inceldom to blood transfer and HIV treatment, both of which are literally LIFE SAVING CARE?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:57 PM
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You made a biological claim, and instead of defending it you are attempting to turn this around as if I made the initial claim. That is not what happened. I said in neurological terms. It's rude to respond to a question with another question. You are just sealioning now , I'm not going to engage with you if you refuse to debate in food faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:17 PM
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Oh yeah? So you're a neurologist now? Please elaborate on what your brain is doing differently post-masturbation, in neurological terms, Professor ItDoesntFeelAsGood
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:16 PM
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Only if you have no hands and can't get yourself off. Lack of sexual release is what can become uncomfortable, for both men and women. Lack of sex itself is not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:31 PM
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Moving the goalposts now I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:30 PM
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just like we acknowledge food is a need This is absolutely NOT a thing we do in this culture. 9 million human beings die by starvation every single year, because we allow it. 14 million US children are food insecure, 47 million Americans are food insecure. Now go to YouTube and type, "global food waste scandal TED".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:21 PM
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Involuntary celebite is not a gendered phrase. More dishonesty. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:37 AM
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You can remove the (imo) from your post, because you've just stated a plain fact. Sex is a need FOR WHAT? Survival? No. Pleasure, sex is a need for male pleasure. It is neither intellectually honest nor accurate to draw a comparison to blood transfusions or HIV treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:34 AM
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The point is that he was attempting to compare men's DESIRE for pleasure (lust) to physiological survival needs such as blood transfusions. It is deliberately misleading by use of an incomplete thought, "sex is a need." A need for WHAT?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:32 AM
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Lol imagine expecting a conservative , especially an incel like OP, to be intellectually honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:30 AM
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English has a word. Lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:29 AM
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Ahh, of course you'd resort to desperate cherry picking when confronted. More intellectually dishonest incel behavior. I welcome you to address every point I made above, any single one of which pokes huge holes in your original argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:27 AM
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Tell me you don't believe asexuals exist without telling me. 🙄🤦‍♀️ Anyway, yes, I'm well aware "sex is a need" was a deliberately incomplete thought on your part. A need for WHAT? Survival? Certainly not, countless men have lived entire lives without sex. Pleasure. That's what this is really all about. By attempting to draw a comparison between a need FOR PLEASURE and the two needs FOR SURVIVAL you used as examples, you are being intellectually dishonest. No man on Earth has ever died from blue …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:14 AM
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You didn't state it explicitly. However, you did very carefully, cleverly (or so you thought), and very strongly IMPLIED it, by drawing comparisons to blood transfusions and HIV treatment, which ARE needs. Those two things are absolutely life and death for those who need them. You don't get to couch your argument in implication and then pretend like you never went there. You did. And the implication is just as bad, just as dishonest as explicitly stating it. We see this behavior from conservativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:50 AM
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You're right, he didn't state it explicitly. However, he did very carefully, cleverly (or so he thought), and very strongly IMPLIED it, by drawing comparisons to blood transfusions and HIV treatment, which ARE needs. That is not how this works. He doesn't get to couch his argument in implication and then pretend like he never went there. He did. The only one being dishonest here is him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:48 AM
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You didn't state it explicitly. However, you did very carefully, cleverly (or so you thought), and very strongly IMPLIED it, by drawing comparisons to blood transfusions and HIV treatment, which ARE needs. Those two things are absolutely life and death for those who need them. You don't get to couch your argument in implication and then pretend like you never went there. You did. And the implication is just as bad, just as dishonest as explicitly stating it. We see this behavior from conservativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:45 AM
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Yikes. Today I learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:08 AM
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Hawaii raised its age of consent from 14 to 16 as recently as 2001, all 50 states recognize 16 as a minimum age of consent, with more than half of states approving 16 as the legal age. Child marriage still happens in many states to this day! Just need parental permission. Less than 50 years ago, like half or more of US states had 12-14 year old ages of consent, we're not all that much better if our starting point is comparing ourselves to fucking IRAQ. Funny how Americans always do that, rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:27 PM
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Robots capable of and "attractive" enough for satisfying sex are at least 50 years off, and when they do finally become available, they'll be totally unaffordable to 95%+ of the men who need them. Wealthy men can already get laid, even if they have to pay for it. This will never solve the incel problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:07 PM
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The book and its findings have been attacked systematically because of politics. Many people don't like the implications because it means they've been wrong their entire lives. More importantly, because this books findings represent an existential THREAT to the structure of our society and those at the top who benefit from it. Capitalist society demands and depends upon our relative isolation from one another and lack of community. It's a propaganda war, nothing more. Remember, they tried to pul…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:31 AM
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Many poly folks make no meaningful or deep commitments either. It's a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:09 PM
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You're describing long outdated and disproven theories about human sexuality in the pre-historic era. Read Sex At Dawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:34 PM
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That's just polyamory lol. You don't need to invent weird ass phrases like "soft harem" when we already have the language to describe this. Also, a harem of any kind would imply these 3 women are ONLY sleeping with you, which as a woman I very much doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:32 PM
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Complete and utter delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:14 AM
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Including your lady Comment we are 9 comments deep in this discussion. Why the Gaslighting? Is it because you're uncomfortable. Reflect on your behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:27 AM
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"Focus on"? It's a real problem in modern dating culture, which is what this conversation was about. Why do you insist we avoid this particular problem in discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:27 PM
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They're just making a valid point on the internet. No one is flipping over keyboards here. Also , they're 100% correct. No call / no show is extremely inconsiderate of another human beings emotions and time. This is 2025, if you can't take 5 seconds to send a simple text to spare someone some pain and frustration, than you're a selfish asshole. Sorry not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:16 PM
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I'm not making any statement about what other women should do with their romantic / sex lives. That's none of my business as long a everything is consensual. Honestly, if I understood men to the extent you're asking, I'd be doing some kind of couples counseling for a living. All I know for sure is that men are not a monolith, and we shouldn't treat them as such. Some women are gold diggers, and that's perfectly alright, we live in a system that tortures and kills people daily for the crime of be…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:32 PM
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Average men don't want to date her, they just want to fuck her repeatedly. The relationship isn't substantial at all. It's transactional. The typical guy would fuck most women at the end of the day. So no, both types of men are not chasing the same league of women. Some guys are just delusional about their prospects until reality beats them over the head a certain number of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 06:23 PM
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This is so true and the same can be said about money. It feels rude or wrong to admit to most folks, but these are measurable and observable facts of our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:59 PM
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Unfortunately, it doesn't matter one bit how we feel about that notion. It's a reality. The data is extremely clear on this, and young women do date and marry older, more established men as a general rule. According to available data, a significant portion of 20-something women date older men, with estimates suggesting that around 25% of women in this age group engage in relationships with partners considerably older than them, though the exact percentage can vary depending on the specific age g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 01:12 AM
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100% agree, those are all things I look for too! But for most people, those are things that end up getting evaluated WAY after career, wealth, status, and looks. Not even due to some nefarious reason, just because all those things except confidence and (somewhat) humor take time to discern.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:08 PM
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Rich men don't end up in nursing homes lmao. More to the point, are you seriously arguing that hot young women don't seek out older wealthy men? You cannot be serious! My brother had minimal interest from most women until he got rich as a business owner. Now that people in his smallish local community know who he is, he is bachelor of the fucking year. Big fish in a small pond I guess, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:30 PM
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Maybe physically. But who cares about that? Sure not women! Defining male peak this way is missing a massive part of the masculinity and male value puzzle which is WEALTH. Men actually peak when they have enough income / wealth to support themselves and a family. That's the single most attractive thing you can have / be as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:35 PM
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Precisely. As such I can only judge by my observations here. Perhaps we would both be well served to be mindful of that, stranger. Sorry for the offense. I wish you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:43 PM
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It's called deductive reasoning, and that you did not dispute my observation, but rather dodged it in a , "no u", is unsurprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:56 AM
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Ahh the classic gaslighting + ad nominee. The sure sign of a person with no substantial argument left. I don't hate anyone hun, I wish you and all the incels nothing but peace, love, and happiness. I'm just personally not interested in men who think they're entitled to sex and / or relationships from women. And I really cannot abide people who misrepresent the issue as one about something it's not, especially when they're using rape victims as a political crutch with which to attempt to garner s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:39 AM
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Except you're not being honest now. Because you don't mean retired, you mean poor. A retired millionaire would be no problem for you. It has nothing to do with them having a job, either. You wouldn't date someone making minimum wage or near to it anymore than you'd date the unemployed guy. You're a golddigger, but go off about how those men are all "losers" because they can't pay your way. Enjoy aging sis. You're in for a rough ride with that attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:19 AM
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Nah, now you're just being deliberately obtuse. This is sealioning and I'm not going to engage further here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:30 PM
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There are no words you can conjure that will ever make me agree that it is at all reasonable to draw a comparison between a lonely incel and a rape victim. That is toxic, red-pill manosphere nonsense, and I will never, ever stand for it. Those types of pain are not the same, and the incel has it within their power to change their situation, as a rule. I don't know how much clearer I can make this. It's not appropriate. It's melodramatic, and it's deeply dismissive of rape victims. It's disgustin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:18 AM
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I find there to be an irritating number of red-pills / incels /"recovering incels" (your guess is as good as mine lol) / "purple pill men" who post like red pill men You do see a lot of strawmanning, devil's advocate, and sealioning here. Kinda feels like "babby's first debate forum" in some ways. But there are also some good, deep, insightful discussions and debates here. You just gotta be willing to sort the wheat from the chaff. The noise to signal ratio is a mess here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:10 AM
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Sometimes it's best to just ignore/block and move on
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:57 AM
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Oh, is it incel story time again already? 🕐
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:00 AM
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I love dick! We'll taxidermize all your socks into dildos. The penis heads we'll sever and use to fashion ballgags for the new castrato underclass.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 10:17 PM
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Off with their dicks!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:01 AM
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It lives on bc if your man isn't Henry Cavill, is he really even a man at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:48 PM
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Ok fam, we cool now. ✋️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:44 PM
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Shit, I better obey, the dictator has spoken! Don't wanna get disappeared by the ultimate male leftist!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 10:08 PM
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"I went so far left i came back around the other side as a dictator!" 😆 🤣 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 10:07 PM
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And not a single one of you is an actual leftist. This is just like neo-fasc trumpets calling themselves "conservatives".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:28 PM
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Personally I hate sex, I wish humans bred artificially, and i think people who have sex should be sent to GULAG style re-education camps. Oh, okay. That's cool and stuff. nervous chuckle I've uhhh... gotta go. Work thing. Yeah. drives off cliff
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 10:32 AM
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Valid points and keen insight. 👏 I will say this: We are all best served in life by focusing our energy on things that can be influenced or changed while doing our best to accept anything that's beyond our control. We can't control our feelings about things. Our emotional responses to painful experiences are what they are. The best we can do is learn to regulate our emotions well with healthy coping skills and stress management strategies. What we CAN change is our behavior. In this way, going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:49 AM
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What if you tried it but didn't like it? What if it was a phase and you're no longer into it? What if there's a medical reason? Etc etc Being upset about something like this is ridiculous and melodramatic as fuck. Your needs are either being met or they're not in any relationship. When they're not, you leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:23 AM
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No she would not. What if you tried it but didn't like it? What if it was a phase and you're no longer into it? What if there's a medical reason? Etc etc Consent is consent, all of that other shit doesn't ever enter the equation when it comes to body autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:22 AM
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Previous sexual acts performed or not performed is utterly irrelevant to matters of consent. It's your body, not your partner's. Nothing can change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:11 AM
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Mic. Fucking. Dropped. 🎤
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:08 AM
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🎯 Damn, you devastated OP lol. If I was OP I would delete my reddit account and start over or straight up uninstall the app and never look back. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:06 AM
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Bruh. You don't need to find bizarre justifications to support bodily autonomy or consent. No one is obligated to perform any sex act ever! This is so basic it boggles my mind trying to figure out what the hell you're trying to get at.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:04 AM
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😆 🤣 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:01 AM
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Hun, if you have difficulty with context clues, you probably should have googled the word platitude before responding. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 01:31 AM
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The claim made: Men must be top tier in at least FOUR different categories to be desirable or secure a mate. I disputed that claim with an example from my own life. Your response above is called moving the goalposts, even though you are doing it on behalf of another poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 01:27 AM
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Hit the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:34 PM
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They're not on the back burner, I'm in a relationship with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:10 PM
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🎯 You nailed it. This is a fixable problem if they're simply willing check their ego, swallow their pride, and put the work in. "We must all suffer from one of two pains: the pain of discipline or the pain of regret. The difference is discipline weighs ounces while regret weighs tons." -Jim Rohn
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:05 PM
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What you've missed is that choosing a life partner who values you as a whole human being and respects you as an equal is the OPPOSITE of settling. It's the gold-diggers who are usually settling because they're after something else entirely. Moreover, there are plenty of guys who meet that criteria and also take great care of their bodies and minds. You're just bitter because you're very obviously not one of them. Fortunately for you, this is a fixable problem if you're simply willing check your …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:55 PM
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What you've missed is that choosing a life partner who values and respects us as human beings and equals is NOT settling! Besides, there a plenty of extremely fit and attractive guys who meet that criteria. You're just bitter because you're not one of them. Fortunately for you, that is a fixable problem if you're willing to swallow your pride and put the work in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:51 PM
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Yikes, your mental conception of women is incredibly toxic. Women are not a monolith, hope this helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:35 PM
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I do compete, but I stay humble. BJJ is huge these days. It's not like it was 20 years ago. I'm pretty good, but there are plenty of competitors more talented and experienced than me out there. Studying and facing them is the best way to learn and improve. There are shichidan and hachidan I've fought who can and do absolutely destroy me if I make a single unforced error in the fight. Please understand it's not a linear advancement. One dan above mine means they were already at my level for a min…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:01 PM
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-Makes up fake statistic about men's sex life -fails to cite any source -gets called out and corrected -instead of admitting he was wrong, moves the goalposts from "64% of men haven't gotten laid in a year" to, "10% of men aren't hitting all the time? The outrage! We men are entitled to sex, didn't you know?" L indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:41 PM
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🫡 🫂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:06 AM
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It's not, I was born and raised in flatbush, Brooklyn. See my last comment before this one. And you should!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:51 AM
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Tell that to the 240 lb 6 ft 3 guy who assaulted me on the brooklyn-bound L train in 2019. He spent the next few days in the hospital, and will never walk without a cane again. He got two punches into the side of my head in the time it took me to rip his left knee out of its socket. Until that day, I didn't know a man could scream that loud. And I was only a nidan then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:38 AM
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Compared to you, I might as well be fucking Thor, God of lightning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:33 AM
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Tell me you don't know anything about BJJ without telling me you don't know anything about BJJ. Founder of the Gracie Style of Jiu-Jitsu, Carlos Gracie was the smallest and skinniest of the Gracie Brothers, but he was never defeated, not even by his stronger and larger younger brothers, who were also extremely proficient in BJJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:28 AM
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I'm a rokudan in BJJ. Your size will not help you, it will only make it easier for me to wrap myself around one of your joints or your neck. The skill-gap here is a chasm you cannot cross with size or strength. Your physical advantages will not protect you against an opponent like me. I've watched guys bigger than you tap out against people smaller and far less skilled than myself many, many times. The fight would end very quickly, and you would be in a world of pain or , if you're lucky, passed…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:16 AM
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I feel so bad for you, honey. You deserve to be with someone you find attractive. Don't sell yourself short like that. Put the work in, develop your mind, body, empathy, and honesty, and you will begin punching above your weight in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:10 AM
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I practice power vinyasa yoga at least 8 hours a week, and brazilian jiu-jitsu another 8. I'm in the best shape of my life and could probably make you tap out or nap out within 30 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:04 AM
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That's unethical because it's dishonest. Also, how do you lie about having a serious relationship anyway? A serious relationship is defined by intimacy (emotional, physical, and intellectual) and the time spent together developing it. You can't fake time spent, and most women will be able to detect pretend attraction anyway. Your body language, speech, and facial expressions will betray the lie. Men are not as clever as they lead themselves to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:57 AM
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My boyfriend is 5'8" and makes only 2/3rds of my income, which itself isnt very high (he's an adjunct professor). I love him, and he's attractive to me physically, intellectually, and emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:51 AM
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64% of men haven't had sex in at least a year If you want to be taken seriously in the realm of online debate, you should cite your sources so others don't have to do it for you. I'd also recommend understanding what you're reading so you don't end up being made a fool of. Seeing as how even the most undersexed demographic of men (18-24 year olds), only 31% of them have NOT been sexually active within the last year. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767066 (...)decrea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:21 AM
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And yet... https://np.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/s/77E0CxpZ08 Summary/Overarching Statistics (Up to Date) The latest Office for National Statistics figures (2022/23) show that one in three victims of domestic abuse are male equating to 751,000 men (3.2%) and 1.38 million women (5.7%). From this, 483,000 men and 964,000 women are victims of partner abuse. (ONS 2022/23) https://mankind.org.uk/statistics/statistics-on-male-victims-of-domestic-abuse The majority of perpetrators of domestic violence a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:01 PM
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Women have been victims of patriarchy for 10,000 or so years. Claiming they aren't is as disgusting and willfully ignorant as holocaust or slavery denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:22 PM
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Zero reading comprehension on this guy. 🤦‍♀️ Why are conservatives so glaringly obtuse? Is it because reality has a left-wing bias, and they're compensating by trying to twist it? We're done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:04 PM
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It's not, because no one is claiming those 3.5 million men are a "representative sample" of anything. That's irrelevant. Men could get them, women could not. Would you also argue that women not having the right to vote when men did for generations is also apex fallacy? Such a brandead, misogynistic take.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:54 PM
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Two things can be true at once. Women were not legally permitted to get one without male permission and signature. THAT is a gender issue whether you like it or not. L It was ALSO, separately, a class issue only for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:48 PM
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You don't know of a single guy who has done this because men don't do this. Being emotionally vulnerable around other men is seen as weak and feminine. It will get guys made fun of. So they don't open up the way women do with our friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:40 PM
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Women got the right on Oct 28th, 1974.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:35 PM
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That's simply untrue. By 1970, already one in six families (read: the men) had a credit card. Do you really not see how being excluded on the basis of gender is different from being excluded on the basis of financial merit or lack thereof?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:21 PM
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Only men could get them without permission from a man. Great work deliberately dodging the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:13 PM
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Men crave women's validation and affection because most men don't have deep emotional intimacy with their male friends. Most women DO have that, and that's why it's easier for us to handle being single emotionally. It is absolutely our privileged position as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:01 PM
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Cite your sources, if they're not just "trust me bro".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 05:54 PM
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Tell me you have never read about women's history without telling me you have never read about it. Women in the US couldn't even get credit cards in their own name until the 70s.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 05:52 PM
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Men aren't assumed to be more likely to be violent abusers, they ARE more likely to be. That's just a statistical fact of our reality. It's the inevitable consequence of living in a violent, patriarchal culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:10 PM
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Freedom, sexual liberation, women's rights? Not being forced or coerced into marriage with a man we may not even like or be attracted to for the sake of family wealth, child-rearing, or politics? Not being forced to be little more than a baby-making machine for a man who sees us as little more than property? Not being raped without recourse. Not being committed to an asylum for life and/or lobotomized because our husbands got sick of us. Not being sold into sexual slavery because our parents nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:32 AM
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It's not though. Not all relationships start with tinder hookups. Most people still date normally before jumping into bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:15 AM
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Couldn't agree more about social media. Will take your word about the rest, you seem to know your stuff here. Sad state of affairs for sure. Similar complaints in the EDM scene about DJs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:11 AM
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That's the most insane thing I've read this week.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:08 AM
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It is not. Looks may get your foot in some doors, but if you're not legitimately talented at comedy, you will never progress past the entry level, and you will never make real money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 05:42 AM
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This isn't what happened at all. You wrote: Just because your ego won't take the hit of accepting that hey, maybe you don't know what it's like to be a man and you might not know what you're talking about. Anyone reading this can test it out. Go and spend 3 months in hobbies, see what happens. No need to waste years if you see it's not going anywhere. No where in there did you mention sex! Being a well-adjusted, non-sex obsessed non-incel, I assumed you meant 3 months and you won't get a DATE th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 05:01 AM
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Keep gaslighting, I'm sure that will get you far in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:10 PM
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Okay, and? We weren't talking exlusively about the tiny fraction of the population that uses this particularly sub on this particular site. So I'll ask again: What does that have to do with anything that was being discussed? Please note this is a rhetorical question, because the answer is NOTHING.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:57 PM
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The words I actually wrote, go back and reread them please. Bring an adult if you need help understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:54 PM
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What's this got to do with anything? Give anyone a high level of autism and most people would have a hard timecin the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:20 PM
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As I suspected. Anything that challenges your preconceived notions and biases is rejected outright. "they cherry pick data, and narrow perspectives" This from the evopsych defender!! Hah! 🪞
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:18 PM
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If everyone who needed professional help behaved this way, we'd have to bring back the asylums.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:17 PM
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Show me where I said I fucked on day 3. Practice some reading comprehension please.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:15 PM
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Then you failed to comprehend anything in it. Read it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:16 PM
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No offense, but that seems selfish and deeply socially unhealthy. When you don't regulate your emotions properly, everyone close to you suffers as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:14 PM
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No, because not everyone follows this twisted incel logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:13 PM
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Yeah, being a dating coach who thinks it's cool to bother women in the grocery store because they're constantly on the pussy-prowl is not the flex you think it is, boss. Women HATE that! I'll let you in on a little secret. Women give out our instas to guys bothering us to get them away from as fast as possible. I do this, too! It's safe because at any time in the future, we can just block you or simply ignore you forever. If a women is actually interested in you at all, she'll give you her numbe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:40 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:29 PM
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The phrase "massive action" is attributed to Grant Cardone, a well-known entrepreneur and motivational speaker, who popularized the concept through his book "The 10X Rule" where he emphasizes taking actions that are significantly larger and more aggressive than what most people consider "normal" to achieve extraordinary results. In 2022, the global self-improvement market was valued at $38.3 billion, and is expected to reach $81.6 billion by 2032. Grant Cardone himself is worth 600 million dolla…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:25 PM
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Maybe, but that just means he starts at -50. Henry Cavill gets +50 from looking the way he does, another +50 for being rich, and another +30 for his British accent. Unfortunately, he loses 10,000 points for being a Trump supporter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:15 PM
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3 months? My man spent 3 DAYS in our shared hobby, yoga, before we met and struck up conversation. And yeah, anyone reading this knows you're totally full of shit by now. Not even a doctor-lawyer millionaire with a baseball bat dick bats a thousand. Let alone a socially stunted redpill incel who lies online about his sexual conquests and 100% success rate. I'd be far less surprised to find out you're a 40 year old virgin at this point. You don't understand women at all. Not even a little bit. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:12 PM
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Dating is like 95% psychology, and my other degree is in sexual health, wherein we absolutely did study dating, culture, etc. I wrote a thesis on the topic. But go off, coach.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:06 PM
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There's a book called Sex at Dawn. I highly recommend it for you, if you actually want to understand what sound science looks like when applied to the topic of human evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:21 PM
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Ahhhh, we've finally arrived at the source of the problem. You've just admitted you spend time in "dating communities for men", which are just redpill echo chambers. You need to go in the complete opposite direction. There's a reason female wingmen are 10x more effective than male ones. Women understand women, and women trust women. Oh, I'm so sure 100% of the women you approach not only added you on IG, but also followed up with in-person events AND bring all their hot friends who also instantl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:18 PM
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Oh honey, you've mistaken arrogance for knowledge. I have a PhD in psychology and a masters in sexual health.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:13 PM
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The fact that you think cold approaches aren't also creeping out 70-80% of the woman you're bothering on the street tells me everything I need to know. You have zero self-awareness and are almost certainly an incel puffing themselves up online to look cool and lend credibility to your out of touch arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:08 PM
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You're passionate about proving those wicked females wrong only because you resent them for not opening their legs for you. Women are not sex vending machines. We are human beings. Please try and act accordingly. I know it's hard when you're so busy being bitter and hateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:00 PM
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Okay. But you said, "that takes massive action, implying it's not the social practice that made you have better luck, but the actual sex itself. I think you should say what you meant and mean what you say, the first time. Otherwise, it sure seems like you're constantly moving the goalposts so you can feel correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:57 PM
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Bingo. 🎯
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:55 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:55 PM
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Did you just write 3 paragraphs debating against a claim I never made? 🤦‍♀️ In fact I wrote almost the opposite, when I was arguing that charisma is a learned and practiced skill? It seems like you're far more interested in being right than you are in having an actual, intellectually honest and sincere dialogue. Typical male ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:48 PM
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"Hard to test" isn't the issue. "That which can be claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence", Is a basic premise in science. Evopsych does not pass scientific muster because the claims made are clearly politically motivated and more importantly unfalsifiable, just like claims made by religion. No one is claiming that evolution doesn't apply to the human brain, that's just a weak strawman you've constructed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:45 PM
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There is a base level of smoothness required, and to get it you need massive action. Would you mind elaborating on this for me? How does this work? Do you think that each time you get laid, your charisma stat gets a +3 boost like some kind of videogame? Because that's not how anything works. And if you believe 90% of men aren't getting any dates through social activities, you're almost certainly in the bottom-performing 10% of men who actually aren't. I would suggest developing better social ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:39 PM
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A high skill cook is already a 6/10 for most women before we set eyes on him. A Warhammer collectibles nerd starts at -50. So you'd be wrong. Btw, no one is born with charisma. It's a skillset that is learned, practiced, and mastered. Barack Obama was not born with strong speaking abilities or constitutional knowledge, either. Incels are seen as immature and generally not taken seriously because they fail to take any responsibility for their situation whatsoever, have no desire to change, and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:32 PM
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Not to an incel. For them, a hobby, like everything else, is a tool to increase their likelihood of getting access to sex. I use that phrase deliberately, because these "men" aren't interested in an actual relationship with a woman, and lack the emotional maturity to maintain one anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:30 PM
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Yeah, I'm gonna have to call BS on this one chief. If you were really the sex-machine player you claim to be, you wouldn't need to waste time and energy debating the merits of various dating strategies on fucking reddit. You'd be too busy actually getting laid. You also wouldn't be crying about "charming fuckboys are stealing all the pussy for themselves!" Because you'd be one of them. Something you should know is that many women can sense confidence, and we can also detect false confidence beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:24 PM
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Evopsych is unscientific nonsense redpill propaganda. I'm unsurprised someone with your username doesn't know that. Also, change is the only constant. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:18 PM
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It's literally what 9 year olds do when they're making stuff up. They haven't constructed a lie complex enough to emulate truth, because they don't understand how well enough yet. So you end up with a story that has zero substance, and is extremely easily detectable as bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:09 AM
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I understand, and that's a fair emotional response. But a mature adult with a healthy mind is quite well able to separate their emotions from their reactions, behaviorally speaking. I don't abandon empathy for anyone, even if they've hurt my feelings. Even if they've hurt me physically, I wouldn't wish the same on them. By the way the reason men still face the prospect of rape in prison is because our society abandons empathy for criminals the moment they're convicted. So as a guy you may want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:03 AM
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Only quid pro quo? So everything in your world is transactional? There is zero compassion, charity, generosity, or reciprocity in your observation on this planet? We must not live on the same Earth. Or maybe you just have a horrendously twisted perspective on human behavior. That would explain why you are so quick to abandon empathy of any group you perceive to be in opposition. Damn, now I'm sad for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:58 AM
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I don't think everyone online is lying, and I never said I did. What you're doing here is called a strawman argument. It's not even the anonymity that makes me think this guy is lying. It's the deliberate exclusion of any and all details about this supposed rejection. It's simple pattern recognition. I happen to work in a field that involves a great deal of discernment, so I've gotten pretty good at detecting bullshit. Just calling it like I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:55 AM
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When women say that, they're talking about their partners being poor listeners, not strangers on the net. The typical man is terrible at listening, that's a fact. An undeniable, observable reality that every woman understands because most of us have experienced it. And we talk to each other. I'm actually a very good listener. But I am not this guy's wife. I do not have to indulge him in this ficticious story that he has crafted to elicit sympathy. None of us do. Skepticism is important and valua…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:36 AM
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Yes, he is, and yes, he is! I just think people should tell the truth when they're posting for sympathy online. Literally zero details were provided about this rejection, so we have nothing substantial here to even activate our empathy. And if you think a woman posting a story with zero details and claims of cruelty wouldn't be met with MUCH more skepticism than a man, you haven't been paying attention to your culture at all. P.S. I expect everyone to have empathy for everyone, and two wrongs do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:26 AM
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Everyone should have empathy for everyone. And even if your claim above weren't absurd on its face, which it is, two wrongs don't make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:22 AM
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Trust? This is simple deductive reasoning and observation. Trust never enters the equation at all. Sometimes, it's obvious when someone is lying or exaggerating a story for sympathy, even online. This is one of those times.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:20 AM
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Post on your real account, coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:18 AM
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Oh no, it won't be appealing, I might even get downvoted too! Who cares, seriously. This is the internet, short of doxxing they cannot hurt you. The lion does not concern itself with the opinions of sheep. Also, do you actually believe everything revolves around sex, or were you just playing devil's advocate there, too? The problem with someone arguing from a Devil's Advocate position is that they are free to assume any absurd chain of "logic'' they wish in order to continue an argument, any abs…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:13 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 04:11 PM
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I had no idea this was a right-wing sub, and I don't care. I'm a big fan of Emma Goldman, she was a brilliant woman who was way ahead of her time. You sound like the type of person to avoid listening to a musician you love because they have different politics than you. Weak indeed. And foolish. Also, outside your tiny subreddit echo chamber, the opposite is true on every dating app. Right-wing men are seen as a red flag and avoided by the majority of women online. https://thefirstdatefix.com/f/c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 04:09 PM
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Yeah, and? You think her politics discredits that statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:13 PM
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It's not about character, and I'm not judging. As I said, that poster needs to seek therapy. Read his posts, and if you don't come to that conclusion, too, I don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:04 PM
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Yes, young women are increasingly dating older, established men. It's what happens when you have an entire generation with virtually no wealth to speak of. I do feel bad for young men, they definitely have it rough. Women want families. That takes money. Young men don't have it, and many of them have debt and few to no prospects for advancement up the socio-economic ladder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 04:34 AM
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There is what he wants to hear, and then there is what he needs to hear. Which is the truth. If I didn't respect him, or men generally, I wouldn't bother offering my perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:45 AM
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Holyyyy shit the victim mentality is off the fuckin charts. Yes, all women are 10/10 "dating-millionaires" and all men are ugly unlovable gremlins. Get a grip. Many women struggle just as much as men in dating. Older and overweight women have it rough. Loads of women have given up entirely! And men's attitudes and expectations about dating and women is no small part of the reason why.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:14 PM
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Sorry, what is LVM? googles Oh, oh my god. This explains so much. You don't value yourself. As I said, therapy. It's not a personal attack. It's an honest and compassionate suggestion from someone who has been in therapy her entire adult life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:07 PM
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Anyone who is "shy and socially avoidant" to the point of catching feelings for their female friends and harming those relationships by getting upset when they're rejected needs to seek professional help.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:05 PM
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A woman would be complaining about being groped or worse, not getting her panties in a bunch because some random dude rejected her romantically. Big difference. You honestly need to let this go. You're letting random strangers control your emotional state, because you don't handle rejection well. Respectfully and sincerely, therapy may be helpful to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:00 PM
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If more than one woman has responded to you that harshly after you shoot your shot, you are harassing ALL of them to the point of making them extremely uncomfortable. And frankly, based on your victim complex and everything you've written here, that would not surprise me at all. Only the most bold and confrontational would dare respond to a male suitor like that because of the possibility of the interaction escalating to violence. Reflect on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:47 PM
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You still don't get it. What you've described isn't a problem for men, only for boys. That includes mental/emotional boys in the bodies of men, of which there are many. No woman will ever take you seriously when you cry about romantic rejection, unless there was actual cruelty, harm, or mockery involved. Which we both know there wasn't, because if there was it would have been described in excruciating detail by you for maximum sympathy. Toughen up or accept inceldom. Those are your options. Or, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:39 PM
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TW: sexual assault discussion The problem with your example is that you're conflating romantic rejection with deep relationship trauma, and then getting all confused and upset when women aren't sympathetic. We're not unsympathetic because we hate men, we're unsympathetic because damn near every women has experienced much worse at the hands of men! 81% of (US) women have experienced some form of sexual harassment or assault in their lifetime. 1 in 3 women have experienced an attempted or complete…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:28 PM
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Since you either didn't read or didn't comprehend my post above, I'll quote the relevant bit again here, with emphasis added: "I'm not willing to believe an anonymous internet stranger who deliberately glazes over the most vital details of their story whilst also seeking sympathy and validation after being rejected. Because that is characteristic of a made-up, exaggerated, or emotionally skewed story. Gender isn't even a factor here!" Women and girls do this shit online too. But in this case it …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:19 PM
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"The detriment of negative events in the dating realm from women toward men" read: OP was rejected If the roles were reversed in that sentence, we'd be having a conversation about harassment, rape, etc. That's why women don't take you guys seriously when you talk this way. Just the thinnest skin guys imaginable crying out for validation online, and a gaggle of other low-self esteem dudes enabling their behavior and biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:50 PM
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Yes, I would. The sus part isn't about his gender, it's about the deliberate choice OP made to accuse a person of cruelty whilst failing to provide details of how the interaction went down. That tells me he probably knows that if he spoke about it plainly and honestly, he wouldn't get much sympathy even from men. There's almost always a reason when someone is vague like that. Everyone knows details matter, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:23 AM
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That story doesn't involve any such thing, because ZERO details of what this woman allegedly did wrong were provided by the OP. When someone deliberately glazes over the most vital details of an interaction, whilst also trying to garner sympathy, it's sus. And that has nothing to do with the gender of the poster, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:19 AM
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I'm not willing to believe an anonymous internet stranger who deliberately glazes over the most vital details of their story whilst also seeking sympathy and validation after being rejected. Because that is characteristic of a made-up, exaggerated, or emotionally skewed story. Gender isn't even a factor there! Even if I wasn't familiar with how poorly so many men handle polite rejection, that post would still be mega-sus. That said, I've been called a stupid slut to my face after saying, "sorry,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:15 AM
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Okay, and? You have every right to your feelings. It only becomes problematic when men take those feelings and use them as justification to make women (usually their friends) feel uncomfortable. You are not entitled to nor owed a girlfriend, just as I am not entitled to nor owed a boyfriend. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 09:58 AM
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I just think it's super sus when people deliberately glaze over the most important details of an interaction, call the woman's behavior cruel, and try to elicit sympathy for the man's poor bruised ego. What exactly happened? What did she say and do? How did she respond? Context matters! I would LOVE to hear her side of this story.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:47 AM
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A woman not being attracted to you isn't an attack on your identity or personhood. It's them being honest about their feelings. They didn't friend zone you, you girlfriend zoned them. That's why it's weird and you're getting told to work on yourself. Unless I'm missing something here, you didn't give us much to go on with your vague description of cruel rejection. I have a feeling the cruelty was a very subjective experience on your end...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:36 PM
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"Poor human nature, what horrible crimes have been committed in thy name! Every fool, from king to policeman, from the flatheaded parson to the visionless dabbler in science, presumes to speak authoritatively of human nature. The greater the mental charlatan, the more definite his insistence on the wickedness and weaknesses of human nature. Yet, how can any one speak of it today, with every soul in a prison, with every heart fettered, wounded, and maimed? John Burroughs has stated that experimen…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:58 PM
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Good luck honey, take care of yourself and remember you are the prize! We don't chase, we attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:41 AM
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It is NOT all you can see. Dating apps all have a written profile section and/or stats or Q&A! Very few people will read any of it if they're not immediately attracted to your pics, though. Appearance is also the first thing anyone sees IRL. It isn't exactly the same, but it's pretty similar. You can make a great impression with your dating profile writing or with your words in person, but you're still getting judged and evaluated on your appearance in both cases. If you're terrible looking irl,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:34 AM
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Nailed it 🎯
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:08 AM
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Most men swipe to match on 80%+ of the women they see on dating apps. Men like to rate women, but when it comes down to it, most of them would be grateful and lucky to have a 5, considering the vast majority of women reject the bottom 80% attractive men. In other words, it's all hot air. Men like to talk to other men this way because they're posturing with each other for status. The guy that can pull the "8 or 9" earns respect from his male peers. So they all claim to have high standards because…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:54 AM
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https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/women-more-selective-80-men-unattractive-on-dating-apps-recent-research The data does not support your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:52 AM
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If this were true, how do you explain all the data showing that attractiveness is by far the #1 deciding factor on dating apps. This holds true on hookup apps like tinder and more serious relationship apps like occupied, match, and hinge. https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/women-more-selective-80-men-unattractive-on-dating-apps-recent-research
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:51 AM
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Yeppers
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:14 AM
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They're right though, it's crab bucket mentality by design. They want us divided, that's why "middle class" was invented as a social construct in the first place. If the rest of us ever figured out that the United States is truly divided between the owners of capital and their interests , vs the rest of us, well, we might get some strange and dangerous ideas about the distribution of wealth and power here. "I want to say to you as I move to my conclusion, as we talk about “Where do we go from he…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 10:52 PM
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Red pill man. I'm impressed two wolves weren't mentioned, frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:34 PM
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I'm not sure about 'innate' because it sounds like you're talking about human nature here. Everything about status and money is socially constructed. None of that is natural or innate. We recreate this society each day anew, a prison of our own making. Most men being attracted to certain physical characteristics IS natural. So it's different, that's all I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 03:18 PM
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Wait, you think men don't chase money and status as much as women do? Women are outperforming men in higher education by a wide margin now. And fewer women than ever are interested in having children, at least in the developed world. Almost everyone chases money. Almost everyone wants status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:09 PM
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Neuro-divergent human here and I very much feel your pain. There's a handful of human beings I feel safe enough to fully drop my mask and br myself with. Life is exhausting af.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 12:03 PM
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The difference is women do figure men out. Usually within 5 minutes of intimacy, unless the guy has some sort of intimacy issue. Men can't fake orgasms, as there's almost always evidence produced when they finish. More to the point, men don't have to fake orgasms because most men cum within 2-5 minutes of sex! A man is a Honda Civic with an automatic transmission. Whereas your typical woman is more like a Pagani Zonda with a 7 speed manual transmission.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 04:33 PM
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"This kind of breakdown" was referring to ten years of bad sex for that poor women, not the lies she told to enable it. They both fucked up. He had ten years to learn how to please her and couldn't get it right. There are some men who can figure you out in ten minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:36 PM
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It takes two to communicate. And it takes trust. You'll have to learn to forgive women for their trust issues with men, most of them have been hurt because so many men don't treat women like human beings, like equal partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:34 PM
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You still don't get it. I'm not dismissing anyone's pain. My problem is in the comparison and the nature of the kinds of pain. One involves a person's consent being violated and their ability to make a serious health, intimacy, and potentially life-altering (pregnancy) decision being TAKEN AWAY from them. Loneliness is NOT the same as that and should never be COMPARED!! The ONLY time loneliness could reasonably be compared to rape is if one's spouse was murdered before their eyes. THAT kind of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:52 PM
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No offense, but you being a rape victim isn't relevant to this discussion. But for the record, so am I. I was sex trafficked as a child from the age of 9. That doesn't matter. It's at best a meaningless anecdote and at worst, an appeal to authority fallacy. You've moved the goalposts without realizing it, and in having done so, you've constructed a strawman argument. No one is being FORCED into a lifetime of loneliness. That outcome is the result of millions of individual decisions each of us ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:06 AM
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He wants a partner whose only word of English is, "yes".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:55 AM
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Do you think people on reddit can't be funny? Or that there's not good comedy to be mined here? The own isn't comparing them to Carlin. The own is that they were extremely lazy and uncreative in crafting that "joke" . Of course, calling someone a chatbot because they said something you didn't like is actually just thinly veiled bullying, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:37 PM
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Carlin would've hated and mocked you to the point of tears if you ever behaved the way you do online at one of his shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:17 PM
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You seem to have much more awareness of me than you do about your own writing and how it looks to others. Why would I marry someone if I'm unhappy with the sex for whatever reason? What an absurd scenario, you have a big imagination. You should use it for something constructive, instead of attacking strangers online because they think differently than you do. Cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:16 PM
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Got a citation for that 80% number, or is this just a case of "trust me bro"? Because Google doesn't know what the fuck you're talking about. My sister works as a therapist and has never heard this, either. Loneliness can certainly be a contributing factor, but to lay 80% of male suicides here seems totally disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:11 PM
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This is really weak tbh. You're just strawmanning super hard out of desperation because you have no substantial argument. You don't know me at all. Bad look.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 01:52 PM
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You say freaks like it's a bad thing! Honey it's 2025, lighten up. Live a little. Get that doctor with a baseball bat dick and fuck him so good he forgets about Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:38 AM
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Ahhh, now I understand the problem. You don't know what the word comparison means. Because this thread title is definitely one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:19 AM
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No but seriously you haven't responded to a single one of the points I made in my last serious post. You just threw your hands up and claimed I'm "incapable of having this conversation", which is basically just declaring yourself the winner without any evidence to support this claim. That's bowing out. And that's fine, there's no shame in it. No shame in being wrong, either. Happens to the best of us, we're only human. Just be honest when it happens. People will respect you more for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:15 AM
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Yeah, that's about the only thing getting to completion when you're "laid out".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:12 AM
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🥱 Society used to produce comedians like George Carlin and Bill Hicks. Now we've just got dorks like you parroting tired old memes and thinking themselves clever for it. Derivitive, uncreative, uninspired trash. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:09 AM
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You know, somehow I think readers of this conversation are going to come to a different conclusion, seeing as how you're the one turning tail and running after being schooled like an 8th grader talking to a college professor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:05 AM
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I'm not your dude. Or a dude at all. How many ways do we have to explain that this comparison is repugnant and awful on its face? SEVERITY? This implies that the suffering of incel men is simply somewhere lower on the same spectrum as that of a RAPE VICTIM. THEY AREN'T IN THE SAME UNIVERSE AT ALL. One is a lifetime of trauma, difficulty with intimacy forever in all future relationships, therapy, anxiety, depression. One is a violent act, the other is some guy with blue balls who can rub one out …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:02 AM
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How many ways do we have to explain that this comparison is repugnant and awful on its face? SEVERITY? This implies that the suffering of incel men is simply somewhere lower on the same spectrum as that of a RAPE VICTIM. THEY AREN'T IN THE SAME UNIVERSE AT ALL. One is a lifetime of trauma, difficulty with intimacy forever in all future relationships, therapy, anxiety, depression. One is a violent act, the other is some guy with blue balls who can rub one out any fucking time he pleases. Stop com…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:00 AM
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What are you even talking about? Straight to fictitious personal attacks already? You must feel really intimidated by me, jeez. I'm not even poly, I just think the state of monogamy is in shambles these days. And I think guys who think like you are a large part of the reason it's all so toxic. Not saying women don't play into the problem too, because they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:54 AM
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Women lying to men is a communication problem. Many women will tell you they've given up on honest open communication with their man on certain issues because he doesn't listen. Which is really to say he doesn't change his behavior in response to feedback, which is to say he doesn't care. It takes two people to have this kind of breakdown, and it takes two very stubborn, unpassionate, uncreative people with terrible communication to keep a lie like that going for ten whole years. Guys are up vot…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:49 AM
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Did you just argue that RAPE VICTIMS are being called below average and abnormal? What in the hell? This isn't even about statistics. That doesn't matter. THE COMPARISON IS RIDICULOUS AND INSANE.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:40 AM
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It's so disturbing when you lay it out like that, but you're not wrong. It's dehumanization. It's not another human being to connect with, to bond with. It's a pussy vending machine. I hate our culture so, so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:28 AM
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"My partner may not meet some of my needs for long periods of life, and i also won't be able to satisfy those needs elsewhere. That's why we tie each other together by intermingling every aspect of our lives, otherwise the whole thing would collapse out of misery!" Is honestly such a sad but real statement about monogamy as it actually exists in people's lives. If needs aren't being met for any reason for long periods of time, a relationship should either adapt or end.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:18 AM
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Yikesarooni, you should delete this OP. Men not being able to attract a mate is VERY fucking different from the lived experience of RAPE VICTIMS. I can't believe I have to explain this to you. Men have the biggest victim complexes I swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:02 AM
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Sorry but this SCREAMS bedroom insecurity. Whatever is going on here isn't about women, it's about the idea of women in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:58 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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