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The opposite. Young girls and boys fall into types of play. They see mothers with babies and, also being female sometimes roleplay as an adult. 'Lets play house' kind of stuff. Boys rarely do that stuff. They want to run around and play superheroes etc. As girls age, they are given many messages that are anti-motherhood/family. Climate change! Overpopulation! Oh no! Then they are told a career will be life-fulfilling. Then reality sets in around 30-40 and single women making their life about wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 05:08 PM
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Tech isn't what is making western gals worse mother material. It's the constant messaging about global warming/climate change/overpopulation that both has them popping pills for anxiety, and is discouraging them from dreaming of motherhood/children. Additionally feminism is telling young women to make their life about a career and cheering them on / rewarding that, specifically. Feminist ideals and the general progressive zeitgeist never highlights motherhood/family etc. What is interesting is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:58 AM
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It sounds like you dont have much love to give any guy tbh. Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:42 AM
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Oh ATM machine you're so manly. Not like that fuckboi with the body of a greek god. No, ATM machine you're the one for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:27 AM
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Uh yeah statistically people were happier in the past when average Joe and average Sue use to get married and have a family. Rates of satisfaction with relationships and general happiness are on the decline for both guys and gals. Look at depression rates and use of anti-depressants while you're at it. Why are you slamming the average guy? Are they less human or of less value than the average gal? That's a pretty bad take.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:23 AM
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'Fuckboy' is judgement. It's shame language. Similar words exist for women. It's meant to be a shot at a chad's ego. He is a 'boy' not a man. He's only good for a 'fuck' not for other things. It's an attempt to cope/gain control over a reality that those guys can bang and ghost all day every day in big cities. Such is the reality. I expect you know all that though despite acting ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:33 PM
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Delusional people who wont settle for people at there level do end up alone, but generally not as happy as those who have a loving life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:20 PM
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When gals realize the implications of sexual liberty for the top tier guys they are chasing, it can create some bitterness. Enter shaming language. It's not about sex so much as it's about Cindy not getting commitment from Chad, who is cope/downgraded to 'boy' and his sexual liberty (great thing) is downgraded to 'fuck'. Maybe society should call gals who dont commit in peak childbearing years fuckgurls? Because all the gals waiting till the window is closing really did want to be a fuckgurl. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:36 PM
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OP gals are socialized to want guys who are MORE attractive than them. In recent times, with sexual liberation, gals are increasingly over-estimating their '*value'. This is because it's easy for a 5/10 girl to bang a 7/10 guy. They think that means they can land a 7/10 or even are at that level for a long term relationship. Gals systematically over-estimate their level of attractiveness relative to that of guys (who are at their level). We have proof of this, it's easy to look it up. In summary…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:06 PM
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The % of sexless young men has tripled in recent years. That is not going on with gals. Tossing around false equivalences (gals face the same things!) won't lead to understanding the distinct issues that exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:46 PM
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Fuckboy is an interesting term. It's designed to shame attractive guys who have the same sexual freedom that is celebrated in women. Somehow this is acceptable while words meaning the same for women, are not acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:33 PM
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Which 'men going their own way' have been killing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:31 AM
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So part of the hitch is that many old ways of socialization have been replaced. I'm sure you know that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:28 AM
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My interest is in the trends that are on a massive scale, creating shootings, and have for a LONG TIME created situations where GUYS opt out of life and or society. This stuff has been considered taboo but at some point even fools will start to engage with what's going on. Don't care if you are polite to me or not but at least use your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:21 AM
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I think for some guys it's absolutely as brutal as advertised here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:52 PM
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'thats dumb', 'your bias', 'bullshit', 'keep that outa here', 'dumb', 'religion', 'whinefest'. Not dumb. All have bias. Chill with your irrational anger. No I'm an atheist. ​ On the idea of 'noble sacrifice'. It's been a central aspect of male identity across cultures and among different religions, for all human history. To get men to behave well you had formal systems laid out such as chivalry or Bushido and many similar lesser known systems/codes. On 'strong and independent'. The point was tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:45 PM
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Me- 'It is assumed that a 'good man' sacrifices himself for others.' You - 'Tbf that’s universal belief for a “good person”. You are heavily emphasising hard labour jobs specifically. Which are majority taken by working class men but aren’t the majority of men’s jobs.' In the past, you might have been correct on women being expected to sacrifice for others. Today, a woman will be praised for being selfish and strong enough to support her consumer lifestyle. Society wants men to be 'good' but tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:14 PM
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The reality of many jobs for men, specifically, is the sacrifice of body/heath for money. It's often done for family. These working class guys doing all these jobs (many) end up broken down physically but we are wired to think that's okay, IF treated even close to 'well'. You honestly believe the same is true for women? In my town old men go around limping from bad knee's, joints, backs, etc. If a woman applies to the same factories they will be prioritized for the easiest jobs, of course. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:18 AM
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Women intuitively know and have shared understanding of many things that are corollary to what guys beginning to understand. I know very attractive college age girls who get together to watch the bachelor, or Downton Abbey and they discuss. There are also female fanfiction which are not only fantasies, but also collaborative understanding. Also romance movies. Also some forms of truecrime and horror. Much of that is used as a guide to understanding a host of social dimensions. The the girls I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:10 PM
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Are you sure you are 'Cuck's worst nightmare'? Might need to change that. There are many men who genuinely believe if you are nice and kind, it makes things go well. We could set up a way to prove it if we had to but it's self-evident. Many guys on some level enjoy being a pet of sorts. They are conditioned to think it's 'noble, honorable, good man' etc, to forego their own needs for children and wives. Break their bodies down, risk death, or simply sacrifice their interests and self-actualizati…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 05:56 PM
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Everything? How about any profession that requires real skills and has a chance of failure?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 05:44 PM
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minor - a person under the age of full legal responsibility. child - a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority The age of majority (adult) refers to the age at which an individual will be legally considered an adult. It is the age at which one will be subject to the full legal rights and responsibilities of an adult, including the right to vote, the right to join the military or the right to sign a contract. When compared to adults, juveniles are generally m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 05:38 PM
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Invoke magic words to make actual evidence, logic, and truth irrelevant. We expect that from people like you tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:06 PM
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There has been a colossal, coordinated effort, to empower girls through scholarships and a myriad of other ways. There are surveys being used to try to determine why the guys (qualified) don't want to attend university and it's been observed that some indicate a lack of feel wanted. How would they draw that and other related conclusions is a good question. As for parenting influence/discipline, I think the boys and girls are probably treated fairly equally with discipline. With videogames I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:43 AM
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Yeah, a lot of Japanese guys have entirely lost touch with any semblance of traditional masculinity and instead are passive, emasculated, and ambitionless. China is attempting to prevent similar things from occurring in their culture. S Korea has a pretty toxic gender battle going on. Those guys are required to do military service, so they tend to not be quite as soft as some of the Japanese guys. But then they have to compete for jobs vs women who didn't have to put life on pause to do mandator…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:42 PM
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lmao same bro that would be rough
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:32 AM
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If a guy on here roasts a woman like that... Imagine...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:24 AM
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'i've seen white guys demand preferential treatment!' 'well, no, actually I have never seen that and was lying' good to know
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:11 AM
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I live in gun country and it's assumed that ppl have guns tbh. Black, white, mexican, whatever. We all have guns. Red state. Tons of biracial families in my community. No white person that I know would be worried about a black person owning a gun because around here people just want to get by and have their family get by. There is one group that everyone hates though and that is the drug dealers, white or black doesn't matter. People want good neighbors regardless of race and want to live far fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 08:52 AM
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Younger women/girls are told to experiment and have 'sexual freedom' and fun. Those are not the ones who are planning long-term. Late 20's if they are relatively smart and want kids, they consider future security. There are a ton of reasons for single mother situations that I don't want to get into unless you really want.. I don't want to offend ppl tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 07:43 AM
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Thanks man I hope it was helpful in some small way
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 07:13 AM
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You have not given a reason or argument and expect people to be convinced who see strong evidence against your conclusion. I have black friends who live by me and who own guns. White people and hispanic people too. The black people having guns isn't fixing anything. Once more.. Why would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 03:23 AM
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It's a multifactor thing. One critical piece you're missing is that society heaps praises on women for being strong and independent, and does not reward/praise young men in similar ways. Society actually communicates to guys that they are not needed, and is happy to have incompetent men, because then the gals can shine. In the past society respected fathers and husbands who did a good job caring for those around them. There were pushing and pulling forces (pressure and praise) on young men to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:10 AM
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What women do you know that happily have their children taken away and make payments? Idiocy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 11:23 PM
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Where I live most black folks seem to have guns and I don't see it impacting legislation. Nobody seems to have a problem with it except ppl here know you don't go out at night in some areas.. That's the extent of it. The gun violence happens mostly at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 11:15 PM
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We just had the biggest federal reserve blunder since before ww2 and people are starting to come forward about it. That is what I'm referencing. I don't blame the Biden administration for things they don't control but in what they can control they have been failing miserably. At least we are getting honesty now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 11:06 PM
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Once more.. Making racial distinctions **the crux of identity**, can cause issues and is in some ways regressive. ​ *Also i'd like to call your bluff. Exactly what situations have you seen white guys in where they are demanding preferential treatment? I've seen calls for preference with Biden administration staffing decisions (notably there is a mass exodus going on of black staffers atm because they realized the demands for representation resulted in tokenism without decision making power).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:01 PM
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Speaking of current financial mismanagement, the US Sec of the Treasury just FINALLY admitted how badly the fed screwed up our management of inflation. Transitory was the buzzword uttered a million times by them and the msm. In other news we are spending 20% of the US gdp went to paying interest on the national debt.. The kicker is that there is a global financial bubble. You have western bankers begging China to abandon it's zero covid lockdown policy because the effects on both China and the W…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:30 PM
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Women are evolved to pick good mates for partnership. They consider long-term projections which any person getting 'hitched' probably should do. There is a spectrum but no woman will ever choose for a guy to make less money. It's a purely good thing to have resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:00 PM
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TheFinalDefender, If you shove a kids whiteness down their throat, shame them and celebrate other groups, it makes sense that eventually they want to find their group as well, since they by definition, are not part of the intersectional tribe. You can say the gun was the problem, or the ideology, or the demographic. We have to as a society decide how we are going to stop young men from being radicalized, and consider what we as a society are doing that is encouraging it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:53 PM
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American culture becoming more conservative. lol America has gone so far left recently it has the heads of many nations spinning. Little wonder why it fails to understand Afghans, Russians, Chinese, and generally all those living in the south pacific. We thought the Afgan people wanted western ideals, they don't. We thought Russia would have huge internal backlash against Putin. Guess what? Russians like Putin, and hate what was before him. The west just ensured Russia is pushed into the arms of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:13 PM
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I'm baffled that someone would believe what you just wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:52 PM
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If Intrinsic confidence is the goal, misrepresented (idealized/fake) lives and people on instagram might not be helpful tbh. Comparisons drive low confidence and insta turbocharges it. Daily proofs of capability. They slowly rewire your brain and lead to confidence. The real 'skill' to pursue is this process. You are capable of far more than you think and what others reflect to you will likely not communicate that to you. It's up to you to build confidence based in real things, not the illusory …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:36 PM
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If you didn't get delt an easy hand of cards then you gotta build intrinsic confidence. Not from people saying 'you're so hot!' but from yourself. Think of things that you can do, which you can be proud of yourself for doing. Start small, but commit to doing them every day. Your confidence will grow, and then you take slightly larger things and repeat. Try this: Say 'im going to do at least a little pushups/situps/squats each day'. If you feel bad, just do 1 of each. But each day make sure you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:27 AM
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I was saying that there are some good dudes who were never anything but good but maybe are really ugly or got socialized really poorly/no role models, no father, no mentor, no adult giving helpful guidance, and that resulted in some misguided awkward guys who experience a lot of pain and sadness. I see people casually dehumanize this group and it's wrong. It's okay for people to talk about it and if you say it's not okay then honestly fk u. I'd never say it's not okay to talk about things girls/…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:00 AM
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You are doing the same thing as OP. You actually sound like a bigot. Please stop dehumanizing groups of people with your biases. I regularly reference women's issues. The reason THIS stuff needs talking about is because of the scale on a societal level with MASSIVE implications, combined with little dialogue and little awareness. You cannot talk about any of this stuff and be opposed to thinking or use of logic and expect any good to come. But at a minimum don't dehumanize whole groups of people…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:34 AM
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Press x to doubt edit: I just thought of something.. Often in lesbian couples there is one more dominant.. The masculine role, often bigger etc. It occurs to me that I've never seen two small petite lesbian girls in a couple. I think even lesbian fem girls value feeling a bit secure.. Hm. Food for thought I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:20 AM
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Weird.. Same with my family. The kids who were more respectful of rules developed way later with that stuff. The youngest in our family grew up fastest and has multiple kids and a great spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 07:59 AM
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I was told nothing. Father wasn't around or involved much. I basically got socialized by women who did not teach me how to be attractive and many painful doormat years later, learned/am learning how to be more masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 07:55 AM
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It's total nonsense. You want to grow. Mind, body, soul, career, friendships, social skills, etc. 'Just be yourself' is a poor attempt to say 'hey bud you're okay!' but obv that's not good advice to someone you know needs real good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 07:26 AM
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The dude's a clown and i'm 99% sure he's misrepresenting his measurements. Arms about as big as Arnolds and way heavier at 9% bf? Sure bro. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 06:59 AM
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Studies have shown more muscle is more attractive up to a point. The Rock, or Hemsworth, Jason Momoa, Chris Pratt (when training) fit the bill. The catch is these big dudes have to be a bit warm and playful. A lot of gym guys with similar physiques can't compete with their charisma though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 06:44 AM
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I kinda disagree. Women may not dream of the massive/ripped type, but if it turns into healthy confidence and makes the dude a man's-man, that is very very attractive. We all love a huge dude who is grounded, has humor & social skills, and an easy way with people (or leader). Women are intimidated by the big guys or ultra-masculine looking guys if the guys aren't able to balance it out. I think few women would idealize an ex-hells angels bodybuilder covered in tats, but... if this beastly lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 06:33 AM
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I try to have the kind of body that I think will turn her on. I understand when women say they 'want to feel sexy'. As a guy I feel basically the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 06:16 AM
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Ah gotcha. So you know, i've seen some of the same stuff as you. I think it's derived from the longing to feel safe. It's also why they are into vampires/werewolves/billionaires, etc etc. The ideal would be to have a harem of men with a mix of muscular chad werewolf/vampire types with a few doctors and billionaires mixed in. If I write erotic fanfiction for women it'll be like that. lul
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:49 AM
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Yeah I get a bit mad when people are so heartless and ignorant. Keep your head up bro and focus on the art of relationships. Keep the good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:40 AM
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OP what happens to the kids in your hypothetical? Is the gov still collecting payments from the father? Are all men taxed? Lastly, the least attractive guys will still have the same issues. And now women will have more issues, but get more fun sex. And kids lose out. Seems awful hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:34 AM
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for hundreds of thousands of years you didn't have porn desensitizing people to the beauty of a generally healthy male/female body. Socially conditioning society to judge their sexlife constantly in overt ways, turns out to have real downsides for all parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:13 AM
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'you surely have that feeling that a lot of young women look down on women who decide to become mothers/look down on the very role of being a mother right?' Yeah society expresses a lot of disappointment when a woman decides she'd like to be a homemaker. Instead of telling the truth about how we are evolved to be social creatures of kinship/family, they push empty pursuits and build up meaningless jobs to surpass the experience of raising your own children. Then you've got my friends who are gay…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:01 AM
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Don't confuse these 2 things: Women have better options for casual hookup. Women have better options for a lifelong relationship. Just because an equally average looking girl can get way more attention on tinder or smt doesnt mean she truly has more relationship value than the guy who is similar, but won't get attention (for casual stuff). We are going to see way more single guys who are goodlooking and just go chick to chick (dont tie the knot). That's what you and women don't get. I know sever…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:49 AM
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re have been a few recent threads here and in AskMen and 2X in which men admit they don’t care about her hobbies and interests. A long thread in which men admit concealing their political and religious ideation, and multiple threads daily about how frivolous and boring women’s interests and concerns are. They admit they want a bangmaid then wail and g This is a misrepresentation imo. The vast majority of the disgruntled incel guys really did care and try at some point. Probably didn't know how. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:40 AM
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Society SHOULD tell women to be good people. To be morally sound, to have a foundation for ethics that can hold. This world will go to shit if we keep pushing talented women forward into leadership and praising life decisions of seeking dopamine while treating good mothers with derision and contempt. Society SHOULD tell men the same thing. We push so hard on guys the idea that sex is equal to all kinds of things which it's not. In a good society we'd honor those fathers and mothers who are tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:40 AM
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I think the incel brothers need to get laid, get some perspective, and actually shoot for better things than cheap thrills. It's a curse of biology to have male sexdrive unfulfilled (a cosmic joke) but society adds to it by equating sex with more than it really is. While mocking fathers in commercials/tv. Makes me sick what media tells guys to prioritize. The girls meanwhile are told by society (media) that the be all end-all is to be a 'bad bitch' and shits on virtue. I've seen good mothers sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:20 AM
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I once believed things were almost entirely about environment. It makes sense to believe that because it resonates with what is easily observable to us as we live life, and it also is appealing to believe. The catch is that biology is POWERFUL and is negligently absent in discussions of identity and behavior. We have a host of instincts before we are socialized. We also have elements of personality, before we are socialized. Any understanding of a person that doesn't take into account biology is…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:04 AM
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How many guys will never be found attractive? The answer is in hypergamy and there is good research from many different directions and fields. When I say 'many' what I mean is a higher % of guys than gals as per the data. It's easy to find, look up hypergamy. It's thoroughly documented that women are more picky than men. That is OKAY, and natural. The snag is this: Tech has created a boost in the hypergamy. The top 20% guys can endlessly have casual sex. They are aware of what's going on. The lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:43 AM
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Sociable-Sam, the ideal of equal opportunity has succeeded in countless ways. Equity is being used to justify discriminatory practices like Ivy league schools rejecting Asian students of merit. Where is equity when only men are sent to die in a war they may or may not want to fight in? Those using equity, selectively, as a weapon, will tell you it's about equality and fairness. In reality it equates to normalizing discrimination under the guise of 'fairness'. There are words for what this really…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:12 AM
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Saying that differences in regards to sex and gender are arbitrary is a claim that deserves to be laughed at. There are mountains of evidence. The basis for how societies organized with gender in early history and prehistory was predicated on the assumption that a human female who is pregnant (which the species depends on happening) has to be supported in some ways if you want a strong society. To not help pregnant women would be a quick way to become weaker than rival civilizations. In the anim…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:44 PM
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Want to hear a joke? A 'bluepill' person, responding to a reasoned opinion, in kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:11 PM
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Men lust after many woman/types. They can get truly attracted to many women. Women find a smaller subset of guys to be the kind that can really light that fire (lust, physically very attracted to). The issue is that many guys at no fault, will never have anyone feel very attracted to them. It's biological. Woman are wired to go for guys with good genetics (indications of disease resistance, grew large/strong). It's not exactly their fault, it's actually great for the human race that woman are se…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:59 PM
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I hope you don't mind but i'm going to add. It's something I've been thinking on. I think the disconnect (mixed message) is that society tells guys to be very kind/sweet but women know that a bit of fire (disagreeableness, willingness to have vision, ambition) is a fair predictor of some things. If you find a guy who is very ambitious and who isn't going to wind up in prison (self control, intelligence/coping), it coorelates with future financial realities. When society encourages guys to be 'ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:58 PM
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I think making overly large sex distinctions, putting women on pedestals, and using terms like 'game' adds to pressure is a bad feedback loop. The reality is that for extremely awkward guys wanting to improve social skills it absolutely takes time and practice. I'd say try to get in a frame of mind where you care about all people, and recognize that all people have ups and downs in their lives. The girls/women you want to talk to are similar in having hopes/dreams/hardships/etc. Unrealistic shor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:44 PM
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I think there are good guys who are naive and good guys who are knowledgeable. I think 'nice guys' is sometimes code for a bit naive and still in doormat stage. A guy who is both good, but respected is seen as a good MAN, which is very very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:18 PM
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'Badboys' are not necessarily cruel. Very few people are randomly cruel. Deviant behavior and rule breaking is not the same as cruelty. If one guy is overly agreeable and willing to be a doormat, that likewise does not making him morally upstanding. In fact, having a spine and awareness of which social rules have merit and which ones are for the birds, can lead to a better morality (a set of principles not dictated to you from inauthentic people/society, but self-regulated through intentionally …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:16 PM
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I think a 'badboy' is one who is willing to go against the mandated social construct and be a bit less agreeable. Part of what is attractive is that it requires a degree of strength, which is why most people would prefer to be highly agreeable and have pleasant interactions. Another aspect is that it signals that the guy has enough intelligence to recognize some things which naïve boys do not. It can be hard for a woman to respect a guy who is totally naïve and so agreeable that they regularly a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:12 PM
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OP have you seen any data on hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:05 PM
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I cited women saying how they feel. I do try to understand people who are different from me who I share this world with and interact with regularly. I have a tremendous amount of empathy for the struggles of people who look nothing like me, women included. And I've looked into what some of those are, and have had friends who have directly experienced some of those things, who I have at times helped. You're right that I and others should be careful to say 'this is the experience of' someone other…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:09 AM
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Women and hypergamy look it up. Very well documented, not grey in the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:50 AM
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Knowledge moves forward regardless of systems being complex. There are plenty of intricate, complicated, domains out there which we (miracle of miracles) consistently make discoveries in. Those being things that allow us to accurately predict and model other things. There is a fair amount of corroboration both quantitative and qualitative pointing out how women when given access to many guys, are more selective, and that results in certain things. I of course agree with you that there are issues…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:23 AM
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Are confirmed bachelors likely to have much interest in bettering the future & their community? No. There can be tax benefits raised for married couples though to effectively tax these single people when the gov needs to correct imbalanced demographics. Will women become the primary society builders? They already are the social engineers and leaders. Will they do the tough manual labor and be required to stay fight, die in Ukraine? Of course not. Historically there have been bachelor taxes. Pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:09 AM
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In a hypothetical I'm tempted to say, yes, absolutely. In reality it's a huge red flag and ignoring things like that have cost many men more than they care to talk about. If there was a reason that dispelled with various issues with social conditioning, trauma, etc, then I'd say yes, but that reason would have to be something that demonstrates she is no reactive puppet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:50 PM
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I fell like you are putting words in my mouth or maybe I'm not being clear? I'm not making a commentary on female attraction. It's irrelevant to my point. I'll try once more and see if you can respond to my point. I am saying women, like all humans, (if we are recognizing mountains of data and being good faith) recognize that positive social interactions, are positive, good for you. I claim that we have mountains of data on what it does to children and even adults to experience many positive or …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:43 PM
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If you say you don't miss guys behaving badly, I understand that 100%. If you are telling me that women feel no difference having a hot guy walk past them ignoring them, vs a tiny glance or smile, I call BS. Also there are consistent gaps between survey responses and actual behaviors which exist for the exact same reason that you are being coy here. We are aware of the coy, face-saving 'answers' vs the behavior data gap in many areas where women feel like a conclusion that doesn't suite them may…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:41 PM
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Historically there was recognition that one way to coerce those who behave badly into good behavior was shunning. Your body actually has a negative immune response to social deprivation. There is a reason that solitary confinement is cited as being so effective relative to other torture methods by groups who engage in such things. We have extensive documentation on what neglect does to child development. Now flip this all around. Women in surveys cite 'words of affirmation' as being of incredibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:27 PM
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Try as we might we are social creatures. Look up the research on how bad consistent negative social experiences are. Look up the research on social isolation (people who used shunning knew this, governments who use solitary to soften people's psyche for interrogation also know this). Now look up the benefits of intimacy and positive social interaction. Relationships aren't easy but to reject intimate relationships is to reject part of your humanity imo. It's always easier in the near-term to lie…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:07 PM
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I wonder about that first question too tbh. I'm actually trying to figure out the answer to a similar one about what is going on with demographics where I live. Anyway I'll venture an answer.. The guys who drop out (gradually become more introverted) of public life are spending time on introverted activities while other guys go to gyms, bars, coffee shops, etc. For boys who are some combination of ugly, shy, socially inept, lacking ambition, lacking self confidence, seem to be the ones that drop…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:50 PM
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I once heard a 20 something feminist gal at a bonfire articulate her understanding of what living life as a guy is like and I was amazed. With incredible confidence she gave the most juvenile take you can imagine. This is an upper-middleclass white girl living on the outskirts of a diverse working-class town with tons of guys dropping out of school at 16, in jail at 18, drugs, violence, and some guys working 35-40 years in factories to support families that fall apart. The number of old guys goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:11 PM
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'The only people who struggle with this are...' I strongly believe that is not be accurate. I'd argue thta everyone grieves aging and the markers / sudden realizations that you are not what you were. People who disagree imo are being dishonest. But what effects all women and all men, may effect them in different ways, and to different degrees, but there is ample reason to respect the significance (beyond many women being brave enough to admit it). On one side we have mountains of research demons…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:45 PM
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Unpopular opinion in 2022 but men and women are built different. It's absurd for people to approach all topics as if it's not the case. That makes rape and violence different and I honestly have a lot more sympathy for women there, unless there is some bodybuilder hitting some scrawny guy somewhere. I do care about how men can have their lives destroyed with a few words spoken by an upset person who knows they can rally a mob against a guy. I've seen that firsthand in life, and that is the prima…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:07 PM
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I have a relative who is mtf and yes he had brutal experiences as a guy. He is one of the two boys who honestly inspired me to care about these subjects. They apply a bit less to me personally but I had one friend commit suicide and this cousin go through awful stuff then transition away from m. I'm very aware of issues facing all youth, and girls/women, but I see certain things just not understood or discussed, and that is what I'm at least for a short time engaged in discussing online.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:02 PM
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I see 2 points. 'Men dont care' and trying to look attractive is not a male thing. I dont know about the first but lots of guys do try to look attractive by working out, grooming (how many guys go around with a caveman beard?).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:59 PM
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Let me ask you a question. How much does affirmation matter to children, to women, to men? In the love languages study women rated words of affirmation #2. As for men you dont have to look far to learn that feeling respected matters to them (affirmation is a very similar concept). And then for children we obviously know how critical it is. You might say 'duh having other people build you up is good' but i'd say 'not so fast'. Why is this stuff rated as being so foundational within these relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:39 AM
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More open relationships and polygamy-lite. Since Christianity isn't the moral framework we'll see marriage change imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:37 AM
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Cowards. You're knocking down strawmen instead of engaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:17 AM
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At the end of the transition ordeal and finally arriving at 'male' she said she felt invisible. Mislead to think guys had all sorts of social advantages but she realized being short, thin, boyish, not manly, she became invisible (the word she chose, ironically enough).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:23 AM
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Attractive guys do certain things and unattractive guys generally do other things. For example you don't find many guys thin as a stick at a gym. You don't find many 10/10 chads in a library book club (sad I know). The very attractive guys who have ambition and drive are often married and focusing on career / family. They will be out shopping less, and doing hobbies less.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:17 AM
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I read an account written by a girl who transitioned to become male. She later detransioned and had quite a lot to say about how she had been led to believe her social experience would be x,y,z but ended up feeling entirely... Guess the word she chose?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:09 AM
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straw man unless you extrapolate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:07 AM
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This small sample is representative of something that many aging women have expressed, and continue to. We all know that affirmation does positive things for a person and we know that if you neglect a child (extensive research on this) it is horrible for development. You give attention if you want healthy development. Please don't gaslight, this stuff is real. I'm curious if anyone will give thoughtful insights/opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:06 AM
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u/dietwindows Hey dont take this wrong but I know a little about some of what you're saying and I think you need to have someone in your life to help give you a perspective outside your own to keep that anxiety at bay. It's hampering your ability to do things that are important so you gotta take working on that serious (imo). If you have those anxieties going in circles they will do more damage over time if you don't have any competing narratives (no you are not a creep), it can be really bad fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:58 AM
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Past 2 weeks i've had women hit on me at the gas station, grocery store, gym, work, and even the bank. One was following me around the grocery store and moving in front of me in her yoga pants striking a sorta soft pose. There is a massive difference in the lived experience of guys. I have a cousin who is 6'7 and very good looking, and another cousin who is short and not so good looking. One of those two has had a lot more hurtful experiences. Understatement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:47 AM
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u/EugeneCezanne You sound very naïve. You are 100% correct you have it easy. And you are 100% correct that there are downsides for those women. You seem to have no clue or empathy when it comes to the lived experience of the bottom tier guys. Become friends with some of those guys who at your age, many have already dropped out of public life after being traumatized enough. Empathy my friend. That is if you truly want a picture of what is going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:40 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:31 AM
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I'm a redpilled dude and anyone who disagrees with this is lying imo. It's no secret that guys value physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:42 AM
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Insecure women lie on this stuff. You do know this right? Ask the confident girls/women if you want actual answers. Someone coined the phenomena of insecure women telling lies so consistently about what they go for but the name eludes me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:39 AM
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People think deprivation and desensitization only apply to guys. You wont hear women talk about deprivation to make themselves more horny for better sex with their husbands/boyfriends. This stuff goes one way. Then the principles magically disappear when it comes to women. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:30 AM
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u/hairy_bamboo Girls: 'What is your minimum to find a guy attractive?' 'TOP 15% in height!' Guys: 'What is your minimum to find a girl attractive?' 'TOP 15% in boob size!' One of these is fine to say. The other will get you lynched online. Understand? Does bluepill just mean low iq? This is pattern recognition 101. Your response is a strawman & nonquitter. Like me saying im rich but paralyzed and an awful person, why don't women like me more? My point was based on the reality of what was stated,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:59 AM
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Once more, many people know exactly what I'm talking about with 15%. What I am talking about was said very specifically, multiple times in this thread. There is a clear hypocrisy and only the ignorant miss it. Look it up, what am I talking about with 15% height? Once you look it up.. How many times was that EXACTLY in this thread? 'Minimum top 15th%'. Wake up my bluepill brother
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:49 AM
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You can say that but there is a lot of data, AND there are a lot of guys at both ends of the distribution all corroborating what is going on. I'm a tall very good-looking guy and I have opportunities left and right that I know many guys don't have. Many guys low on the spectrum of physical attractiveness have such miserable social experiences with women that it's hard to get the picture unless you actually engage with them and attempt to understand. But since society assumes they are more worthl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:44 AM
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u/MLEMisafunnyword Here's the thing though.. That data was released giving part of a picture. BUT a lot of data has been suppressed since then. We know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:38 AM
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My grandfather lost many friends to deaths on supply ships in WWII for people like you. Do you know how they died? Many burned alive. He sailed with the merchant marines on fuel ships and when they were torpedoed by German subs many were burned to death. Today in Ukraine men are forced to stay and die for people like you. What is so special about being born with a vagina that means others should die on your behalf? What about the contents of character?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:34 AM
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u/OldSimpsonsisbetter damn that was brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:55 PM
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Do you know what nature is? Do you know what intercourse is?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:35 PM
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Anecdote: This alone should dispel all data and logic! Back up the train. Do you know how to get closer to truth? 1 example does not show you the picture or the bell curve/distribution. REALITY VIA DATA: There is an increasingly large subsection of males who have no sex, no relationships. It is outpacing the corresponding female subsection. The guys who tick the right boxes, are absolutely (verified by the data) having more sex, and there are more guys going sexless and relationshipless. OP I am…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:30 PM
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u/MP8877 Im not sure you do see what i'm getting at. A lot of guys know the 15% 6ft+ statistic. Im having a laugh at how women presented with 'minimum to be attractive' and respond with 6ft+ (15% of population, cannot change this). If you acknowledge science as existing then it makes sense gals would want health markers. No severely malnourished guy grows very tall. The joke, to guys in the know, is that if a guy says his minimum is 15th percentile boob size, all hell will be loosed on him and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:21 PM
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Did you know that longterm vibrator use can make it harder to orgasm from natural sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:25 AM
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OP ask the chads what they've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:15 AM
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So im tall irl but i'm laughing my ass off reading these comments. Dude said 'minimum to be attractive' and all the ladies are like top 15% in height is our minimum. That's brutal XD I really respect the honesty though, that actually helps ppl
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 04:52 AM
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Minimum - top 15% percentile in height. Fuck off sub 6ft cucks! lmao gotta love it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 04:48 AM
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It's about the sympathy for the women I think. People worry about exploitation with low end stuff but the girls are clearly happy having CHAD and getting paid well on a boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 04:31 AM
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That's not entirely true. I know some women who specifically go for guys who make them feel a degree of unsafe, along with some 'excitement'. I think the ones looking to feel good and feel safe are smarter, but there is that desire to get and control a very strong (physically, intellectually, willpower, confident) guy as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 03:44 AM
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I told a friend jokingly once upon a time that if i'd wanted to learn masculinity well as a kid I should have paid a smart butch lesbian to teach me how to be a man. I've had a number of gay and lesbian friends who are keen social observers and will be honest with answers and less bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 03:41 AM
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Women of wealth and high educational attainment regularly make their disgust for poor and uneducated men known. You don't see what men are interested in because they are not allowed to be. Women are extremely class conscious in case you didnt know, and guys save their time rather than be degraded.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 03:36 AM
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