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| 81 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone? | NocturnalCoder | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 04:32 PM |
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| 7 | Ok to go through life as a single dad?Almost 6 years out and just at the probably end of a new relationship. Sure. Being a single dad is fine and possible but I am slowly putting away my dream of having a new relationship until my kids are grown. I like peace and quiet and am at the age (43) where I get woman who are putting their child dream away or have kids themselves and have the same challenges with their kids. And honestly between career and kids, a relationship can be challenging. So yeah. It is very ok to go through life as … | /r/Divorce_Men | 14/09/24 03:59 AM |
| 1 | Looks or money when it comes to datingThis. Values. Allignment, personality. | /r/RedPillWomen | 08/09/24 12:37 AM |
| 3 | How does a bad mother effect a person when they reach adulthood ?Hear hear. My mom to this day only cares about herself, which made that from a very young age, I started to look out for myself. This has lead me to be highly independent, never ever asking for help (been working on that), trouble in relatio shims because of that and struggling in many simple aspects of life because of it (where other people just ask for support or help and I try to fix everything on my own). Bad mothers cause us to pick bad partners (probably same as "daddy issues") and never k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 03:54 PM |
| 1 | How to ask men for beauty money?If that is your culture and way of life. Fine. She still sounds like a dumpster fire. All taking, no giving and not understanding her guy is trying to build something more than pretty nails. She wants her desires and demands to go before smart money decisions. She should leave this guy alone cause he has a sense of reality and responsibility and she doesn't. She is just thinking about her wants. If she cannot see the needs of the unit (and that is her, kids and husband) Vs just hers: Not wife ma… | /r/RedPillWomen | 23/12/23 11:35 PM |
| 25 | How to ask men for beauty money?You barely have your own life under control (and I am being nice) and are asking a guy for beauty money. You are in no position to advice other people if I would have to be really blunt. Heal your own trauma first before you advice other people. | /r/RedPillWomen | 28/10/23 06:25 PM |
| 1 | The only men who truly benefit from modern dating culture are the tip top percentile of menYou miss one important thing in your idea: AND want to be a part of that modern dating culture. I am a tall, not bad looking guy who has a succesful career. I am in my early 40ies and all I want is peace man. I would love to find a nice, funny woman that isn't painful on the eyes to enjoy life with. These modern dating shitshows are a rollercoaster that I don't want in my life. They suck energy, are exhausting and traumatizing. Best of luck with the guys who do want to play those games. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 04:13 PM |
| 1 | What does your “ideal” dating life look like?42m. Find a woman who has is aware and open about her trauma, can accept I have some too and am aware as well. We can talk to eachother about it without the unhealthy coping mechanisms when we need it. Continue life while having fun for the next 40 years or something. Maybe a ring if we want it. Definitely a place in the south of France. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: do you find women only transport offensive?Well, it feel bit two sided. The purest in me wants to say yes. "Girls only night only" in a bar. "Woman only" compartment only in a train. Not offensive, but a bit much sometimes. Then I remember what female friends told me about their experiences and I think yeah... unfortunately that makes sense sometimes. I don't think it is the solution, but I understand where it comes from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 10:29 PM |
| 3 | Why don't we encourage men to stay virginal as much as we encourage women?Maybe in the us, but in a lot of the western world having had sex is not really a thing. Having had sex with the entire town/city on the other hand... that would be bad for most people. Men or woman. TL;DR: my experience in Europe is most people dislike promiscuity, but not specifically favour virginity unless there is some religious component to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Is the vitriol against promiscuous women a tactic to convince women to not sleep around?All of the guys I know who slept around with ho's and had kids with them were of the same level as the woman to be honest. I am not one of the guys cheering on guys that get laid more. They were girl chasers and often drinkers. Outside of work (if they had a job) that was all they did. I am not saying it's ok to abandon your kids. And ok, "ho's". Not a native English speaker and my story actually comes from a small Belgian village in the 80s and 90s. I am also not trying to scare anyone into abs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 07:31 PM |
| 5 | Is the vitriol against promiscuous women a tactic to convince women to not sleep around?I never said they would not get married. I said no will stick around for long. Our definition of succes is different. Been married 3-4 times now thus also divorced the the same amount. That doesn't sound like succes to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 04:16 PM |
| 6 | Is the vitriol against promiscuous women a tactic to convince women to not sleep around?I am 42 yo old and can assure you "slut shaming" happened well before the internet existed. Apparently woman just really don't want to hear it.. I had a convo with my parents earlier who were talking about some people in my borth town (many many moons ago) and even there the women who were sleeping around were known and sure, everyone had a go pre dating apps) but nobody ever married them. All of them are still single to this day and renting a house on their own. Some with one or more kids from … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 01:25 AM |
| 5 | CMV: successful men do care about womens’ careersNot American/Brit so different numbers but I would say first of all: above pulling a certain income, he doesn't care anymore cause it makes zero difference in his lifestyle. If he has 10M in the bank, he can choose to take his 4 months paternity leave wether his parter makes 0 or 50k a month. When you reach a certain threshold, it really doesn't matter anymore cause you are entirely free. I know, a weird concept to grasp, but that is how it works. People talented (or lucky) enough to reach this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 09:25 PM |
| 5 | CMV : Most women don’t think they’re deserving of a top men. But almost none would admit to themselves they deserve average or below….Oh, we get it. You date the hottest guys you can get, they only want to play, you get traumatized and then don't want to date anymore cause looking at another guy is "dating down" or "settling". And it is all our fault (as s men) You are right about the last part. It doesn't make sense to use why you wound keep on doing that to a point where you loose your believe in people without taking responsibility/accountability. That is what we are confused about. I know plenty of guys who are great, can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Fellas do you guys think there's some truth to this comment?Meh, this sounds like an angry woman speaking completely from her own perspective. What is a remarkable man? To a homeless woman a blue collared worker making the bare minimum to earn a roof over his head may already be remarkable. For a PhD Dr. Who is developing a cure for -insert desease- a succesful c-level may not be remarkable but a social worker going out of his way might.... Pure subjective and her own view, voiced in a very putting down way to be honest. I really wonder what the response… | /r/MensRights | 03/09/23 07:01 PM |
| 7 | The truth is that majority of men won’t even approach/talk to women, yet they keep blaming them for the their lack of success.Oh, he did. Pressing charges however, does not help against the" being punshed in the face" part. It's after the facts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/23 06:29 PM |
| 20 | The truth is that majority of men won’t even approach/talk to women, yet they keep blaming them for the their lack of success.To give an example: I have a friend who tried to chat a girl up in a bar, stopped and returned to our group when it didn't work (this interaction was less than 5 minutes) and got punched in the head by some boucner on steroids cause returning to our group was not enough, she wanted him out (and bouncer dude was in a bad mood that day). I don't know what was said, but as far as I know the guy, he is a pretty decent dude so from my view, he just fired his shot. I can give you plenty of other examp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/23 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Jobs that are dealbreakers (for me )...what about you?It's of course to each their own, but yeah. I am a freelance consultant and that comes at a certain pace and toll. At the same time, I am very much family-oriented, so I focus on people who have the same mindset, Work hard, play relax, cozy and together instead of work hard, play hard) Writing this out, I'm actually considering to make this my new Tinder bio :-D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/23 03:26 PM |
| 1 | How should we survive the "SIMP Epidemic?"Well, unpopular opinion: woman should learn how to make a distinction between simps and just guys who are kind but still put up their boundaries. The original post has the logic that woman will go for it (off course, cause the guys fakes all they want until th first time they touch upon his hidden boundaries) . In truth, the simps are not gonna chance for as long as their tactics work. We have been fishing for decades, and I have not seen fish stop liking worms cause we put them on hooks and thr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/23 03:02 AM |
| 2 | Jobs that are dealbreakers (for me )...what about you?Hahahaha, i have never saw that one, It would be a left but with a big smile 😁 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 09:32 PM |
| 26 | Jobs that are dealbreakers (for me )...what about you?First general rule: nobody that has their professional accomplishments as their entire identity Nobody that calls themselves ceo without reporting to a board (that is not themselves) no sex workers (present or past) no crazy schedule or thrill seeking jobs (nurses, doctors on call, journalists in war zones as an example) performers ,artists, influencers and having a general "I want to be the main character" syndrome attitude. But basically, the way you do the job matters more than the job itself… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 05:31 PM |
| 10 | Jobs that are dealbreakers (for me )...what about you?Those fall under "performers" or wanna be to be fair | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 05:19 PM |
| 11 | You know her body count is high when she's a stripper and feels the need to tell you her number.Am I the only one that read that as "I am a drama tree"'? | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 01/09/23 04:53 PM |
| 9 | Most of men's cluelessness in dating stems from fatherlessness and their mother's virtue signalling bad advice.NEIN! NEIN! NEIN! Scheisse Schmetterling. No, no ,no. Papillon de merde. 🤔 Ok, fair point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 07:22 PM |
| 2 | What's the incentive for men not to be "toxically masculine", if that's what most women go for?cause i get to have better connections with other people Cause I ge to be a better leader at work " cause I don't push it further onto my son cause that is who I am and I won't mask it under some though shell Purely speaking about the boys don't cry etc stuff. But this shit needs to end. You can perfectly be a man and have acces to your emotions. Sure.there is group of woman who don't like that 🤷♂️ that is their choice and work to do. But being who you are is always the better choice imho. And … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 06:46 AM |
| 3 | What if I'm authentically not happy being single?I am struggling with the same thing, and honestly don't have an answer. Just want to share,aybe vent 😬. I am a 42yo man. Dovirced, 2 kids 50/50. And I don't know what to make out of all this advice. As an example: I enjoy eating out, and while I can an occasionally will do it ony own, it is not the same on my own. I enjoy discovering a new place with friends and but when I try it can be texting back and forth with 5 people for 3 days to set a date. It is exhausting. So yeah, I would prefer to fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Promiscuity in women being viewed as unattractive is not a double standard. Lack of sexual discretion is unattractive in general. That's the standard for all genders.Maybe they should then find each other? Then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 08:18 PM |
| 1 | If the average men of today live much easier lives than those in the past, why are women not satisfied?Who we are, or are aspiring to be. Some cheering on ocassion would be nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 08:10 PM |
| 2 | Why don’t men just do what women do?In which way? I am ia bunch of dating advice subs and ask men subs, and my experience is woman ask for advice from men, then end up taking advice from other woman cause it is easier and fits their own views. I have seldom seen woman take advice from men, even if that is what they asked, cause they don't like the answer they get from men 🤷 You want to understand men? Ask men, not some proxy woman. When I want input on a relationship with a womanw I ask a female friend.. not other guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/23 08:06 PM |
| 1 | Forget sex or relationships, how tf does a man even become friends with a woman?All of my female friends are basically mom's of my kids friends or girlfriends of my buddies. Most of them are in a relationship or just not someone I would persue. I used to have some female friends outside of kids but if I am honest, there was always some attraction or something playing and we both were aware. Zero chemistry female friends outside of girlfriends of my male friends or moms of friends of my kids? No, I can't remember to be honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 11:56 PM |
| – | If you could design a dating app, how would it work?A psychologist would do an intake on everyone joining, determining attachment style, love language, and intentions. This would be put on the profile and can only be changed by a new evaluation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 02:47 PM |
| 4 | If men had as much standards as women did, would anything really change?Look at dating over forty for your answer. Most guys at that age, having been married or not, have way higher standards than in their younger days. Dating is still a mess in that age bracket and you still have the difference between guys wanting something serious and being authentic vs. guys saying everything and anything to get in a woman and very few taking accountability or being unaware of themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Why don’t men just do what women do?I agree. But we also need to find a way to live. And I can either stay in the sadness, try to fix it (I have tried), or just figure out a way that works and deal with reality. Sure, we need close friendships. But I have accepted that my emotional shit is on me, and me alone. I have plenty of people to call if I need help with something practical. But when I went through my divorce.. nobody answered to listen. Only to tell me to "move on" and "go have fun"... I can't sit in that sadness forever, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 02:35 PM |
| 4 | Why don’t men just do what women do?weeeeeellll.. As a man, I beg to differ. yes, it is reality, but we need close relationships, we just look for it with our partner ( my view on it). I have a couple of female friends and not even that is the same. I get the same treatment from female friends cause they have no idea what it is to live as a man and they seem to have little to no interest in discovering. They give generic advice (often invalidating my experience) instead of actually listening to the vastly different millage regardi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 02:29 PM |
| 3 | Why don’t men just do what women do?I am 42 and divorced. I have platonic friendships. But still half of the time, it feels like a chore. "Hey, wanna grab a bite?" Yeah, sure "let me check with the wife/girlfriend", "oh no I can't cause xxxx, yyy". Simply finding someone in my group to go out to diner with can be a 3 day endeavour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 10:01 AM |
| 18 | Why don’t men just do what women do?It is really not that hard. Men don't want to emotionally open up and share their pain to someone that will answer: that sucks bruh, now suck it up and carry on And that is basically what most guys will answer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 09:59 AM |
| 3 | What causes dead bead bedrooms in your opinion ? and are they preventable ?I did everything to try and find middle ground with her but she didn’t feel she should change and I didn’t want to accept the status quo. Auch. That one hit home. Totally can relate. 3 years of couples therapy, zero change cause in the end she said she didn't want to put the effort in cause life was already difficult enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 09:44 AM |
| 3 | What causes dead bead bedrooms in your opinion ? and are they preventable ?I do have to say I am really happy I didn't get cheated on (we opened the relationship and talked about it extensively before doing to try and save it. It didn't but at least there was nothing hidden). I have a couple of friends who went through being cheated on and they are definitely in a different place in terms or trust etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 09:32 AM |
| 2 | What causes dead bead bedrooms in your opinion ? and are they preventable ?Can you name what changed? It's not something that keeps me up at night (anymore) but I am interested in it. To be fair, we were already going down hill before the kids looking back with 20/20 hindsight | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 09:24 AM |
| 3 | What causes dead bead bedrooms in your opinion ? and are they preventable ?Definitely neglect and I have suspicions of narc mom. If so, she was the golden child. Her sister was the black scheep/Scape goat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 09:20 AM |
| 3 | What causes dead bead bedrooms in your opinion ? and are they preventable ?I am very aware what this ONE woman did do me, and avoid her type. But one bad experience with a certain type of woman does not mean all woman. So no, not identifying with what woman did to me. One women and I played my part too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 02:11 AM |
| 6 | What causes dead bead bedrooms in your opinion ? and are they preventable ?I know, yet I refuse to normalize this. My libido had/has ups and downs too. But not necessarily related to my partner so that part really puzzled me. I was ready to work on the relationship and she wasn't. What I have learned since then is some want novelty through new people cause it is easy, and some are willing to work on it in a relationship (which is harder) and I don't date people who want the easy way anymore. Or maybe will never date at all anymore, who knows🤷 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 12:48 AM |
| 5 | What causes dead bead bedrooms in your opinion ? and are they preventable ?Thanks ;-) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 12:42 AM |
| 11 | What causes dead bead bedrooms in your opinion ? and are they preventable ?Yeah, let's just say I feel like I took more out of our couples therapy than her and just steered clear. I didn't try to unpack what her message meant to me and told her it was no longer my concern and she should take it up with her partner 🤷 I mean yeah, what am I supposed to do with this info anyway after divorce right (we have kids 50/50 so I tolerate more than I would if we didn't). I don't even want to think about humblebrag or whatever. Honestly I don't want to know. We have kids together … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 12:26 AM |
| 9 | What causes dead bead bedrooms in your opinion ? and are they preventable ?I can only speak for my own situation and also only based on input from my ex wife since it is what she told me so yeah, with a grain of salt: She told me she saw me more as a father of her kids than a sexual partner after we had kids. She could not get her head into any of the things I suggested/tried it out therapist siggested to spice things up cause I was "dad" (and I got into better shape and looks than I ever was after we had kids so I am assuming this was not the issue) After we amicably … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Men: how do you feel about yourself? What do you think of yourself?Not too bad. A little insecure about dating again as a divorced dad with 50/50. I am tall, not bad looking, good career that I love. A close circle of friends, self Aware. So I also know I have some trust issues after divorce and will only talk/match/date woman who are also self aware and have taken the time to figure out what they want since my ex didn't. I am 5years single after having been married 13 years. I am ready for a new chapter but will not indulge mind/dating games. I know where I am… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 07:42 PM |
| 2 | How are you guys able to live alone?Funny how we all have different experiences. The house never was so organized and clean until she moved out. There is still work to be done, but not arriving to a living area where I am worried we had burglars cause all closets are open to find out she just couldn't find her keys and when she finally found them, she didn't bother to close every closet she opened 😅 | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/08/23 11:33 PM |
| 1 | American woman in Australia feels ugly because she doesn't get free drinksI live pretty close to brussel and my dating profiles are English cause we get a lot of expats and basically most Belgians understand English. American woman's profiles and entitlement is wild man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 11:41 PM |
| 7 | We need a modern mythos of "the Average Man"I always thought I was average, and becoming single again at 38 quickly figured out my average is not other people's average. I am tall, not bad looking and making more than most in my country (apparently) I am also self aware, went through therapy etc etc. So tell me, what is average? We all put that out there but average is what people think is average. Average does not existst other than in our own minds is my view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 04:48 PM |
| 1 | The society we want where women making the first moves and approaching men is the norm will never happen.Never in my entire life did approaching a woman work out. All of my relationships started out of friendship or already knowing each other and showing mutual interest at some point (aka both making an effort to go deeper in conversation) the idea of guys needing to approach and woman should not show interest will basically always end up with woman being approached by high testosterone guys wanting to get laid in my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 10:11 AM |
| 3 | Beware Men More AWDTSG InsanityI am currently in the middle of nowhere In the south east of France on holiday with my 2 kids. Life feels and looks so simple here. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/23 07:13 PM |
| 9 | Q4Men: If you’re not Chad, why should you be treated the same way as Chad?Cause they are physically attractive to them and have been able to project some succesful image around them using smoke and mirrors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 04:44 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: If you’re not Chad, why should you be treated the same way as Chad?And woman don't do this with men? A woman trying to arrange a dick appointment is a lot more engaged and putting in effort than someone swiping cause they are bored. And they are swiping for dick appointments with hot guys (attributes) so in what way are you not receiving the same treatment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 04:42 PM |
| 0 | You have three wishes, what dating behaviors in men/women would you change?You are mainly projecting. As a divorced guy, at the end of my marriage my wife (came out later in our talks) had same or higher libido as me but didn't want to have sex cause I was now the father of her kids, not what she desired. So she divorced and went on a hoe phase. The difference is: for most woman, doing a hoe phase is a simple decision, not actual work. Well, to be fair, they have to filter out the dangerous people. Most men don't sleep around (do you have any clue how much effort it wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 09:23 PM |
| 2 | You have three wishes, what dating behaviors in men/women would you change?The freaking shyness. I get it. You have been traumatized by shitty guys. I have had the same by shitty woman after my divorce. Rejection ain't fun. Say what you want, I will tell you mine..open and honest and even first if you prefer. And if it doesn't match, we say goodbye and wish eachother luck. Don't waste other peoples time. Read a bio first (again, both genders) I swear to god I can't even get to the point where I want to ask a woman out cause theu are so cloudy, mysterious and whatever. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 09:12 PM |
| 3 | Does having a 'hoe phase' come from a place of pain?I think it is a bit like an alcoholic who has seen his entire family drink half a bottle of whiskey a day and sure, this is just normal, regular fun and nothing wrong with it right. Everybody does it. Having a psychology background amongst some others, I have never seen anyone without trauma doing a hoe phase. They may not want to hear it, realize it etc. But there is always something underneath. Secure attached people don't do this stuff. They may have hookups, but that is completely different … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 09:03 PM |
| 0 | Does having a 'hoe phase' come from a place of pain?"adults". What is adult? I had this discussion a couple of weeks back with a girl here on this sub. More and more science says people's brain is matured (depending on the research) between 21 and some go up to 28 depending on gender and upbringing. Yet we as a society have put some age oke it cause that sounds about ok. Neuroscience is not not agreeing but this person was insistent this was nonsense and age didn't mathet in maturity cause there was a law... Unless they did and MRI on your brain,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 08:57 PM |
| 2 | Does having a 'hoe phase' come from a place of pain?Living their best life only to be ranting that most husband material guys will never give them a second look or all men are trash (cause that is the only time they dated and they think this is how all guys are) when they come out of their hoe phase. Not realizing the guys that are husband material have already been taken by woman who didn't do a hoe phase. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 08:53 PM |
| 4 | Does having a 'hoe phase' come from a place of pain?In my opinion, it is always b. Trauma/pain (or avoiding it) A) only wanting to have fun, party and hookup with hot guys is basically avoiding reality, real life and responsibility and accountability. Sure. It is fun. And yeah u avoid the effort and steps to actually make something of your life cause you are out partying and spending time on this (especially for guys cause they often have to put in a multitude of effort to achieve the same outcome) B) seeking validation and temporary appreciation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 08:47 PM |
| 1 | If you had a son and he asked you how he can become a man, what advice would you give him ?Learn to be your authentic vulnerable self and don't worry what others think of you. Your feelings are valid, you can share them and fuck whatever others think of that. Be compassionate and understanding that others may have a different experience as yours, and that is ok. Try to understand them instead of "setting them straight". Ask questions , don't give solutions Unless they ask you to Don't play games and don't allow others to play games with you. Make female friends but understand their le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/23 09:38 PM |
| 5 | What is the big deal about submission?Well, the problem is that some woman mirror themselves on toxic masculine figures to become "equal", but in fact they mirror what they hate: toxic masculinity. I see tons of people succeeding in equal relationships. But if you mirror toxic masculinity and then start looking for someone more masculine than you? Yeah.. good luck. You graduated from wanting toxic to extreme toxic people if you are looking "up" 😬 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 10:10 PM |
| 1 | What is the big deal about submission?Submissive has a lot of different meanings to a lot of different people. In my experience, many woman want to look up to their partner and feel like they can let go trusting their partner has their best interest in mind. You can call this submission, you can call this trust. You can call this whatever you want. The point is: a lot of woman want to feel safe with their partner and the their character;and history will shape and determine how that their definition of safety will look like. Some wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 10:04 PM |
| 2 | If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flagsI think we are saying the same thing. Tate and pearly things bring out some very accurate truths. They just do it in such a way it becomes deluter with the rest they are saying and thus invalidating some very simple truths about relationships and how men and woman work. Let's take the body count thing as an example. Did you get a large body count but worked out your issues, did the therapy and now are ready for something else? Fine. Did you get a larga body count and concluded that whatever happ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/23 10:39 PM |
| 1 | If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flagsThe fact that they let this pass by definition means that they are either consciously not aware, or they are literally picking abuse. I put my eggs in the first basket. They have a distorted view on what is healthy and just pick what has been fed to them as being a healthy dude. If I look at tate, and pearly things and stuff like that. I understand what character trades they are putting forward as attractive and important, but man, in what a way. I would not touch what they present with a ten fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/23 10:14 PM |
| – | Spend insignificant money on a girl until after she is sexually productive.Hey, their loss but guessing a couple of cats are cheaper than therapy and putting in some actual effort 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 10:05 PM |
| 3 | If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flagsAnd men will get less emotional and go for it anyway from what I have seen. Welcome to "the game". You can pick to play, or opt out and find a serious partner. Both genders. None of the guys I have seen that kept on playing could be deemed relationship material. I love em dearly, but I pitty the women that ends up with him. And vice versa for the woman I saw doing this. The dude that finally wins this woman... Lord of the spaghetti monster please have mercy. Hurt people hurt people..I think this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 10:02 PM |
| 0 | If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flagsThe segment just looks larger cause that is what you find on old. 80% male, 20% woman. Most of my female friends in their 40ies are like "OLD? Nah, I tried that and that shit is crazy, I will meet someone in daily life*. You are checking chad against all woman while he is only working on the 20% on there. Most woman I know just checked out after a couple of bad experiences cause they have plenty of real life action and meet people there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 09:51 PM |
| – | Spend insignificant money on a girl until after she is sexually productive.My dude, they can suggest all they want, you are allowed to have boundaries too. I don't do expensive diner dated for the first evening. Drinks, or an exhibit, or something active or a picknick for all I care. But if they stear you towards a fancy restaurant for the first date, my Spidey senses start going off. I will happily take her to a fancy place once we got something going. But if she is pushing for it and needs that to be impressed on date one, I am not even going for that date | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 08:51 PM |
| – | Spend insignificant money on a girl until after she is sexually productive.Haha, you think there are no female players? I know plenty of woman who just wanted to get an ich scratched and played some guy who wanted more, and justified themselves and their deceit with hey, just a dude and a he got laid right?? Leaving a dude hurted at some level. Woman don't fuck down? What are you talking about? I know plenty of highly educated woman who fuced a physically fit blue collared worker they would give a second look for something serious but ... Well... For a good night... Wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 08:46 PM |
| – | Spend insignificant money on a girl until after she is sexually productive.Oh, I Ant a long lasting relationship and am having a blast about the who pays for a date and only pay when they open their legs shit posts. Same for the tall guy stuff. All of these superficial posts don't seem to have a clue what a good relationship or partner looks like. If these are your worries, remove yourself out of the dating pool all together please. I pretty much did so because of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 08:36 PM |
| 1 | If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flagsYeah, I know. It took me a while to have this conversations but I realized it does feel good to know there are others out there, men and woman, going through a similar experience with very similar struggles. But hey, we don't need to have this conversation if it makes you feel uncomfortable. Just wanted to cheer you on in your journey and growth, let you know you are not the only one going through this and validate it is rough and unfair. I honestly have zero experience going through it together… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 03:54 PM |
| 1 | If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flagsWe are getting a bit off subject, but I think I get what you are saying. I have two kids too and the shame that I(we) was(were) repeating the pattern before realizing the pattern will never completely disappear for me. But I try to use it as fuel to keep on growing fo them and me, am grateful I realized it when they were still very little and have a lifetime to rectify it And as to parents (my situation was more alcoholic/neglect/abuse) and ex partner (yeah, I married the representation of my mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 03:30 PM |
| 1 | If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flagsI was mainly talking about you, but good that he is also on his own path | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 03:06 PM |
| 1 | If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flagsI hear ya. Took me 38 and now at 42 still unlearning, it is a though road for all. I just see a lot of the posts here about genders, men and woman blah blah and think: yeah no, it is about victims and abusers. And some behaviour is more often done by men, some by woman. Anyway, my 02 cents. Best of luck in your unlearning and glad to hear a fellow survivor surviving and thriving | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 02:55 PM |
| 10 | If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flagsAbusive PEOPLE lie and manipulate. Both men and woman. My mother was/is the manipulator of the household and while applying different tactics, the result is just as bad. Hurt people hurt people and the gender only is an indicator of what type of abuse you may expect. However: the same goes for both genders, and I know some abusive victims have a hard time hearing it cause it is not fair and sounds like victim blaiming (it is not intended that way) it does take 2 to tango. I was in an abusive mar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 02:47 PM |
| 8 | If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flagsEvery guy I know that dated a hot but absolutely crazy girl got the "Dude, you ignored the hot crazy scale and found out" speech from his friends. I have never know anyone responding with anything else than: "yeah, I know I know"... Him and his friends all acknowledge he was thinking with his dick. I never had one guy looking for sympathy cause most men know they will simply none. Maybe with other woman they try to get some empathy or understanding, but with other guys? Nah. Most guys know that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 02:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The most important factor in life is neurotypicalityYou are right, I am not native English speaking and sorry, I did get a little triggered by the "low class Saiyans". What I mean to say is: ND is a spectrum and I don't believe it is a black and white situation where ND should not marry NT. It is a spectrum and if approached with understanding and effort (from both sides) I am pretty sure a solid relationship can be made. There will be challenges, but I think that is the case in any relationship. The key to me would be Mindfulness of differences … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 09:21 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The most important factor in life is neurotypicalityYou are putting Nd people in a big box of low class lebels.i am a gifted person which also comes up as ND. I am succesful, have been married, had kids, dovirced and has them 50/50 of the time, lead a succesful career where I lead large groups of people.i am 6'3, not ugly and in no way lack female attention. I lack connection (but if I would voice why, I would be called arrogant). I in no way identify as low class my man. By most standards I am a less than one percent (income, intelligence, etc) … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/23 06:31 PM |
| 1 | At this point in time women already have complete psychological control over men.Funny, so what are you doing to get the boys to school together with the girls? Cause woman have overtaken men majorly in all educational statistics. So basically, men have woman the possibilities to study and they grabbed it, and now boys are dropping behind. So if you want to be equal. What are you doing to counter this inequality? (Jumps behind a big sand hill cause I have an idea where this will go) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 08:37 PM |
| 4 | Should "confidence" really be as prized, as a trait, as it is?Exactly. A lot of descriptions of "confidence" here read like a freaking description of aweful people and narcissists. A lot of people who know what they are doing just do their thing and are fine with it without shouting it to the world. They are just doing their thing, competently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 12:03 AM |
| 7 | ELI5: Didn't Jonah Hill just leave a relationship that didn't work for either of them and move on to happiness and a baby with someone more compatible. How is this not a win for everyone?No, he was saying your are doing xyz and if that is your thing, we are not a match. He communicated his needs and left the choice to her 🤷 "I don't like you to stick your dick into other woman, but if you like to do that, we are not a match" The guy now has the choice if he wants to continue fucking around, or wants to be with this woman. My personal view is tht about the fact that he didn't like her sexualizing herself and calling attention to her sensuality and body. Woman seem to be very much… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 05:47 PM |
| 2 | ELI5: Didn't Jonah Hill just leave a relationship that didn't work for either of them and move on to happiness and a baby with someone more compatible. How is this not a win for everyone?That is a pretty narrow definition. By that logic someone hitting you and you say no, is not setting a boundary. Cause it trying to control what they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 05:36 PM |
| 14 | ELI5: Didn't Jonah Hill just leave a relationship that didn't work for either of them and move on to happiness and a baby with someone more compatible. How is this not a win for everyone?Even worse, i saw some psychologist saying Jonah "weaponized therapy talk"... I mean... Dude politely gives his boundaries in a way that indeed shows he did therapy: weaponized it 🤦♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 05:28 PM |
| 5 | Women look at the men they are dating glass half empty, while men look at them glass half fullOh, I am I straight guy and have seen a lot of my male friends problems be solved by a hug. During the lockdowns of covid i have had multiple male friends not having been hugged or touched for over a year.. let met repat that: a YEAR. Of not being touched. By. Anyone. Just hug your friends man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Women look at the men they are dating glass half empty, while men look at them glass half fullDude, I am. 42 yo guy and I love to snuggle, but I seldom know wether I want to snuggle with someone after one date. And same with guys even thought hetero. I hug my friends who need it, I love to snuggle with my partner. Physical contact is not a burden not red flag. But just figure out your boundaries and who you want to do it with. This is actually my biggest issue in online dating. Apparently womand want a guy who figures this out on date one. Madame: I have questions.i am 42 years old and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 08:49 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Social media and dating/hookup culture in the west is encouraging the erosion of the solemnity of long term relationships and life long marriage.Oh, those top 20% guy are definitely winning. The question is: are you? If you want to be fucked by these guys without a promise and begginn to be taken. By all means, do these guys. If you want something real and serious find that. But don't blaim the guy.. they are just okaying the game that has been laid pit before thzm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 08:36 PM |
| 2 | 30+ year old women can be just as attractive as a 21 year oldThese porns are not about age or looks. They are mostly woman being totally submissive and throwing themselves at the guys as that is the fantasy. Women, being openly sexual towards men and just going for it and wanting them. This can be achieved for most woman regular or above. It doesn't mean these same men are all of a sudden gonna wife that person. Looking at porn scenarios to validate dating possibilites feels like a bad idea all round. Depending on the query, woman with tentacles should be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 02:52 AM |
| 2 | Observation: girls are constantly baiting guys into destroying their own futures at every point in lifeDude, you need a different room..I am a geek for a lot of woman, and at 42yo old, divorced with 2 kids 50/50 , I can tell you none of that stuff works in the long term. While all of these guys did whatever they did, and my ex wanting more "excitement" and finding out that is all it is and regretting it?, I am pulling in well into the 6 figures, I am not into casual dating so let those peeps do their thing and I am just in a peaceful life with my kids (who' I have 60% of the time) all of the dati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 09:05 PM |
| 4 | Do men actually want love?A lot of guys do, but they are also scared shitless of it cause they have no idea what it feels like, and worse, if we enjoy it, I can be taken away from us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 02:16 PM |
| – | Manosphere influencers are a plagueYeah, the best I can do is: you want to be treated like a queen? Behave like one. And not as a spoiled rotten Princes hoping to be a queen someday | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 09:35 PM |
| 10 | Dating in the Modern Age is Analogous to Wealth Inequality in Later Stage Capitalism.Honestly, dating is starting to feel more like the movie idiocracy to be honest. People just seems to have lost their feeling for what is important. They proclaim their interests yet fail to get those interests interested and are not learning a lesson from it cause some self proclaimed expert on the internet is teaching them they are a 10 and if they wish it hard enough, it will materialize for them. No need to work on yourself (except for men, they have to work on themselves in all areas and th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 09:15 PM |
| – | Manosphere influencers are a plagueAll influencers are a plague. Have you hear some of the advice woman are giving other woman after having a Trainwreck of relationship history? And these woman are offering advice without any proof of knowledge or succes? And the same goes for the men btw. Never been married but advicing the other gender how they should handle things? Get educated on a game on move to twitch please. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Theory: Most guys (and girls too) that are struggling, are just not in the correct circles that match their personality.Thanks, love the nickname btw. I would have made an exception to my "real names only rule" if I saw that on OLD cause I am morbitly curious like that ;-) And yes, most people on OLD seem to be 1, maybe 2, a few 3 on the pyramide. And a mix of misguided thoughts that they are 4 or even 5 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 05:24 PM |
| -1 | Theory: Most guys (and girls too) that are struggling, are just not in the correct circles that match their personality.It depends what they are looking for man. I am a 6'3 financially succesful guy. Average looking, maybe a tad better, fit .. blah blah. All of the characteristics you deem to think important. Do I get a lot of likes on dating apps? Yes (sorry, not trying to boast) but that is not the issue. It is from superficial people whom I don't put time in (the empty bios, the profiles that look like they try to portray themselves as perfect). And if I do match, the conversation just doesn't get me to a poin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Theory: Most guys (and girls too) that are struggling, are just not in the correct circles that match their personality.I should probably set up a neon sign | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Theory: Most guys (and girls too) that are struggling, are just not in the correct circles that match their personality.I am a homebody and mostly at home. So I would say the woman are not in my circle /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 01:37 PM |
| 0 | Men struggle because they treat women as equalsThere is a difference between being someone many woman would look up to (more accomplished, being their rock in hard times, making more money, being better educated, whatever works for that woman) and that guy treating her bad or thinking he is superior somehow. Those are two very different things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 10:58 AM |
| 13 | Q4M: How do you treat pregnant women?Basic human decency and not just for a woman. Just a human being a bro for a fellow human and animal. Pregnant , older, disabled, parent with kids, cat stuck in a tree. People who can see an animal or person suffer and ignore it while it would cost them little effort to help them and only do their thing? Not my kind of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 04:13 PM |
| 2 | what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other?This is not what was said. From what I understood, he said stable men pick stable woman (shortcut) and stable men do judge what woman did in their dating life 😯 Most woman have the choice to do whatever the hell they want and single dudes will still pick them up. Men don't. And a lot of guys know this and won't pick up the woman that didn't realize this either unless it is an ONS 🤷 The proof is on both sides of the fence Are there woman who were not stable in a HAPPY ltr? Yes. Cause they grew. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Women constantly assert that men have inflated self images, yet it is abundantly clear that most men are desperate and have zero standards. Women, on the other hand, consistently feel entitled to men way out of their league and think they are models when they are completely average looking.I think it all depends on how you value yourself. I am in tech.i have a bunch of guys in my team being good people, making good money, but oh, they are under 6'. People have just became insanely shallow with online dating. I am a so called 666 guy and I will swipe left on any woman requiring this in her profile automatically. And also empty bios so basically I am swiping left 99% of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 09:55 PM |
| 1 | Women have an hard problem knowing what they should put effort into to be more attractive as a long term partner.I think the biggest knowledge gap is love languages and finding someone compatible with yours. Example: mine are quality time, physical touch and acts of service. This is how I express my love for someone. Making myself available even though I would like to be doing something else (and I am there without resentment, I am happily giving my time), giving them a hug or doing something to make their life easier. Giving a gift feels like buying someone to me. I can't help it. It is not about the mone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 09:28 PM |
| 2 | what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other?You are projecting your view of human connection with "how it should be". I have all sorts of human connections with both men and woman. Also, I was married for over 13 years so I like to think I can form an emotional connection. But the decision to do so? Very much logical and rational (although poorly adviced at young age) I also did not say only logical, I said balance. I grew in love (not fell) and then made a rational decision to live with this person and later marry her. She made these dec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 09:11 PM |
| 0 | what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other?For me the thing is: if you have been pumped and dumped, you are a bad judge of character to begin with. It may seem harsh and not intended like that, but a lot of men really don't get how that can happen cause it works different from our point of view. Most of the time, we already know what person we have before us, and some choose to pump and dump, some just bail. And when being held to a different standard and being held at arms length as a shit test, we just feel like the woman is playing ga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 09:04 PM |
| 0 | what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other?Oh, but you are. Just more important than a job interview. You want to be part of someone's life. You better not be a chaos monkey | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 08:49 PM |
| 4 | what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other?What does it has to do with autism? Deciding to spend the rest of your life with someone or to commit to someone is in large a logical rational decision. Sure, feelings are important. But I can find the hot sexy chick very attractive and my feelings says yes, but also she does not have a proper job, is impulsive, makes poor decisions, can't keep long term friends, can't communicate, etc (all just examples) then rationally and logically, I will not commit to her or put myself in any risk she migh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 08:48 PM |
| 9 | what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other?Any sensible guy who has an idea about attachment theory will care about family background. And it being a mess is ok. But is the person aware this is not normal? This goes for guys too btw. We repeat what we have learned unless we become aware and grow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 08:42 PM |
| 2 | Do women confuse their socioeconomic status with their SMV?Indeed. And when you point that out, apparently we get downvoted 😅 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Do women confuse their socioeconomic status with their SMV?I am being REALLY honest cause some apparently need it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/23 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Do women confuse their socioeconomic status with their SMV?I don't know. I am from Europe and woman whetting degrees is not all that exceptional to be honest. And again, cool someone did but it is not and indicator of a successful relationship to be honest. So yeah, not looking at that to be honest. Sure I wound prefer my partner to be educated. But in terms of partnership. My ex wife was a master in law. Smart woman but in terms of relationships she has a mindset incompatible with mine (relationships should just go smooth, if I need to put work in, it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/23 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Do women confuse their socioeconomic status with their SMV?Sure. But my point was, or is: we are throwing intelligence and a degree on one big pile. And it feels like a bit off. I see comments here saying men want to keep woman dumb cause it easier to control them etc. That is not what I mean. I intended more like do you want to marry the PhD? Or the OCD neurotic person? Should men then also ignore the non educated woman or woman educated to a lower degree than them? Aka the PhD guy should not marry th bachelor woman? I personally don't think so in both… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/23 03:52 AM |
| -1 | Do women confuse their socioeconomic status with their SMV?Men don't marry degrees. They marry people. Would you marry Sheldon from the big bang theory cause he has a PhD? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/23 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Do women confuse their socioeconomic status with their SMV?Depends on who you ask. Your value on the table for some reason has been translated into income and education. This is just a personal view, but once I am sexually interested (the X factor, you are attracted or you are not and that is for each person their own thing) the only thing I look for are partner qualities Are you happy? Are you healthy? Do you know what you want? Can you communicate? Can you get through a conflict in a healthy communicative way? Do you want to form a team where we mutua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/23 12:36 AM |
| 5 | What something you wish the other gender understood about yours and something you want to understand about there’s?I am a 42yo man who went through divorce and after that a burnout. My opinion on why we got divorced was irrelevant cause every mutual friend automatically chose her side. When I reached out: crickets. To no surprise cause this was how it always has been. Talking with male friends? 70% of the time you get the "well, you can fool around again" bro talks while I was hurting that my family fell apart. We are used to the "man up and carry on" talk. We don't get the "I hear you sister" or "oh, that m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/23 12:19 AM |
| 1 | What something you wish the other gender understood about yours and something you want to understand about there’s?This is an interesting one and I have theory about it. You as a woman are afraid to get sexually assaulted. I as a pretty tall dude have experienced standing outside of a bar or walking out at night and being randomly picked a fight with. And there is no attempt for smooth talking first. Just full out agression. To the point someone walking by and happy slapping me with a fist. It is not all men, it is a specific type of men and I believe it is the same type that hurts both men and woman. Can I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/23 12:05 AM |
| 0 | What something you wish the other gender understood about yours and something you want to understand about there’s?Absolutely this. I have seen and been in situations where a woman did things to someone thinking: if she was a dude, she would have been punshed in the face 10 minutes ago. And although I am against agression, rightfully so. And the same goes for woman probably. We don't get the fear you experience cause a guy is big, or tall cause we are used to dealing with it and being punshed is a reality and a lot of us have had it happen to us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 11:54 PM |
| 5 | What something you wish the other gender understood about yours and something you want to understand about there’s?As a guy, I am in no way bothered by them. Everyone should do them, but it goes to thoughtfulness and self-awareness and OLD. I am clear on my dating profiles what I am looking for. Why match if you don't want the same or are not sure? I married a woman who pretended to want what I wanted too and now regrets having two kids cause they were not sure but just followed my lead. I mean.... Stay single. Don't have kids. Become a ninja. Or a mime. You do you but don't pretend to be something you are n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 11:48 PM |
| 2 | What something you wish the other gender understood about yours and something you want to understand about there’s?If I were woman, I would try to make lipsync videos with my labia saying the funniest shit I can imagine. We all have our preferences 🤷 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 11:42 PM |
| 1 | How do you justify asking for a woman with a low body count, if yours is high?Sigh. Make a profile with your brother, your dad, your friend. Whomevers pics and find out what it is like for men? Even my bisexual ex wife doesn't get woman these days and can't make it work OLD is a joke It's not even about body count. And if you think men experience is the same as yours, you are delusional. Except for the small amount of chafs. most men are struggling. I am,, and know plenty of 666 guys and unless we go cringe on our dating profile, we have zero succes. And we don't go cring… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 09:20 PM |
| 2 | CMV : As a man the best strategy to achieve success in dating is to approach it as one big jokeI believe the truth is in the middle. I am not desperate, but I'm not playing games or treating it as a joke. Women who are "still figuring it out" etc go automatically left. I am open to a serious relationship with someone with the same mindset. All those "open to everything, long-term but open to short, I am talking with a bunch of guys"... they can all do whatever they want, but after a couple of years in online dating: I am done putting energy in people who don't know what they want or are s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 03:38 PM |
| 3 | [CMV] Girls who participate in online dating are not to be taken seriously because they don't take guys seriously.I am 42. I am too old to play games in dating. Either someone is self aware, vulnerable and ready to date for real. Or they are not. But I refuse to treat it as a joke anymore. You do you dude | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 05:45 AM |
| 8 | [CMV] Girls who participate in online dating are not to be taken seriously because they don't take guys seriously.This to me is the signle biggest misunderstanding In dating. As an older dude, my believe is: treat something as a joke and you will attract clowns. Dating and choosing who I let into my life and give my time ain't no joke. It is in fact one of the very few things I won't joke about and treat serious. Others are family, kids, friends and career. So yeah I intentionally date. Clowns to the left og me, jokers to the right here I am as the old time song goes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 07:37 PM |
| 6 | Women are just as visual as men. It's just that most men don't elicit this type of attractionI am really sorry if you experienced this, but this is really not normal, regular or very common. As a dad, who's daughter has older female friends: they are children and their body does not interest me unless they are hurt and I need to fix that. I often have 12 to 15 year olds running around here and during the heatwave the past couple of weeks, half naked, in bikini or whatever. I simply don't look at them in any sexual way cause they are not of interest to me on a sexual level. They are kids… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 06:25 PM |
| 2 | If your life is not somewhat in order as a man then you should NOT be dating or attempting toThen I would advice you to change your room my man. Only meeting shallow woman and it doesn't work for you? You are a the wrong pond. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 06:19 AM |
| 5 | There is no hook up cultureI believe it is one of those loud minority things.very loud and in your face on the dating apps and social media..and their number may be growing. But you hear them mostly so it seems big while in reality, the people who are not are the silent majority. They are not making tiktoks or youtube's about hoe phases etc. They don't have the super promiscuous tinder profiles. They are just doing their thing and life. So not entirely agreeing: I think there is hookup culture, but i think it's way less p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 06:17 AM |
| 0 | Women DO LIKE nice guys who treat them right - but men don't understand female language - CMVSo basically, you are saying you are superficial. In the case of the attorneys you are talking about being bald and short ( 2 things they have no control over) rather than what cases they deal with (which would mather to me). The sign I receive, as a guy, is u would rather date a tall guy with hair, who is definding a disgusting crminall and he know it, over a short balding guy fighting for what is right. As a tall dude with an income above a lawyer: bye bye Oh, and that woman is a "nice girl" l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 09:10 PM |
| 1 | The biggest problem we have today is the demonization of men’s sexuality, while uplifting women’s sexualitySo yeah, what if a guy is highly gifted yet not so good looking? Einstein was a pretty smart dude but not much of a Looker. So where are you with the looks? And hey, you do you if that is your thing. I al just saying not my choice and not the best choice in my opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 08:54 PM |
| 1 | Women DO LIKE nice guys who treat them right - but men don't understand female language - CMVOh, we understand. A lot of guys just don't want to okay games. I saw some of the dating content in the us, and it a bit different here in Europe, but not much. I am a 6'3 guy, doing the 6 figure income etc and I am utterly bored with most woman wanting to make all of the effort and don't out a single thing in to it other than their looks. I will give 2, maybe 3 messages and bail if you sound like sand that has been deprived of rain for a century. And that is line 98% of woman from my experience… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 08:51 PM |
| 1 | If your life is not somewhat in order as a man then you should NOT be dating or attempting toIndeed, they did not do the numbers game. They friended someone, fell in love and work. I am back out dating in my late 30ies now early 40s and went nothing else than something serious. I don't have the time nor energy to keep a woman who can't keep herself excited on her toes. That is on her. A bit of a braggy moment but 0,1% in height, 0,5% in intelligence, 0, 4% in intelligence and there hasn't been a single woman who got me interessant about sending more than 4 messages. They seem to tell th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 08:39 PM |
| 2 | If your life is not somewhat in order as a man then you should NOT be dating or attempting toNot every woman is as shallow as you have experienced it. Some get the greater plan | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Is gold-digging on the rise?I think the difference is (as an older guy) 20 years back, a gold digger would do anything to get the guy and get the gold. These days, they are like: 20 bucks to sniff my panties. Honestly: in this day and age, if you are loyal and make the relationship work, you don't need to work..I'll handle that part of the family. And you do yours. But woman just expecting their part being handled and offering nothing in return? I can do anything of my household myself or hire help or ask family for help f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 08:29 PM |
| 2 | The biggest problem we have today is the demonization of men’s sexuality, while uplifting women’s sexualityYeah... That by itself is a lot to unpack. 18 year old girl going for a 40yo man and you truly believe she is not stunned by his assets and financial options and using het sexuality and looks to get to that albeit maybe unconscious? 40yo guy and you are not thinking why is he ok with basically an end game teenager as a partner at 40 without knowing his financial options are his biggest asset in this game?? Come one..conscious. unconscious, but somewhere they both know the deal they are making. M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 08:06 PM |
| 1 | The biggest problem we have today is the demonization of men’s sexuality, while uplifting women’s sexualitySo, i am gonna guess you are a terminally online unwell person. Or wait, let me guess: you are the exception and you are the sane one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 07:56 PM |
| 2 | The biggest problem we have today is the demonization of men’s sexuality, while uplifting women’s sexualityBruh... 40yo guys who attract 18 year old girls are after one thing, and one thing only. And they use their assets to get it cause it works on a certain type of girl. Daddy didn't pay attention to me or didn't give mwhat I wanted, but if I satisfy this guy, so he will get me what I want. I honestly can't tell who is manipulating whom more in these kind of relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 07:52 PM |
| 1 | The biggest problem we have today is the demonization of men’s sexuality, while uplifting women’s sexualityHonestly, no. It depends on your approach. I grew in love with a woman who was kot my physical 10/10, but she became my 10/10 because of who she was as a person. I will never go for the pure sexual attraction at my age cause it doesn't mean anything to me in terms of partnership. It just tells my body she is hot enough to have sex with from a physical point of view. I am sexually attracted to a lot of woman, but a lot of times, they easily turn me off opening their mouths. And I am old enough to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 07:39 PM |
| 2 | The biggest problem we have today is the demonization of men’s sexuality, while uplifting women’s sexualitySexually and physically? Sure. But those who have been around the block hopefully have learned that is zero indication of a good partnership. If that is your only parameter in selecting a women, godspeed and keep the hot crazy scale in mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 05:49 PM |
| 2 | The biggest problem we have today is the demonization of men’s sexuality, while uplifting women’s sexualityMy initial post literally starts with "i saw this post today about a 23yo woman". I don't particularly like being called deceiving cause a dude can't read properly. There was zero deception. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Is dating more messed up in the US than other Western countries?Yes, california also happens to be the promised land for everyone that wants to get in acting and filled with rich people who did. These people are idolized, followed and copied. Taking Gwyneth Pattrow as an example, she has a huge following and when she says you should regularly steam your vagina and a doctor says "bad idea", it is the doctor who gets attacked. We don't have that kind of stuff here to be honest 😅 maybe in the Margin, but definitely not like "news" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:49 PM |
| 2 | Is dating more messed up in the US than other Western countries?It is also a different type of feminism to be honest. We don't have the discussions about for example abortion cause it is in the law and most people are ok with it and not protesting it at clinics. Religion is another thing that is out of the equation here mostly. It is a lot more about equality, less about trashing guys. But to be honest, if I see guys in the us on YouTube talking about woman, dating etc, i totally get it. So many conservatists... I mean, I have some older values and morals, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:44 PM |
| 6 | Is dating more messed up in the US than other Western countries?I agree. Their dating culture is more towards a goal and expecting to fall in love head over heels. But i also feel it is a bit a sign of the times of instant gratification these days. As an older guy, I don't believe falling in love is good. I believe growing in love is over time and through activities to find out who the other person is. But we live in times where you are actively chatting with many people so you get into "having too much choice" which makes it impossible to just grow on someo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:37 PM |
| 7 | Is dating more messed up in the US than other Western countries?I am from Belgium. OLD is definitely just as fucked up, but i feel like our relationships are based differently for a long time already and we have a different dating culture. Approaching a girl outside of in a club or a bar is, as far as I know, not done and creepy. I am a bit older and most people I know that are married for a long time met by being friends first or through mutual activity (school, sports, etc) Also, there is a huge gap in views on masculinity from what I observe. A lot of the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:33 PM |
| 2 | The biggest problem we have today is the demonization of men’s sexuality, while uplifting women’s sexualityYou find a 42 year old guy not imagining dating a 12 year old girl (which is my daughters age) to be creepy? Sure.. I am happy to be the creep little troll. Now shoo Don't worry, I took screenshotd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 11:50 PM |
| 4 | The biggest problem we have today is the demonization of men’s sexuality, while uplifting women’s sexualityAlso, for your reference: if someone dates someone the same age as their kid. We all kinda know who the creep is. We are just figuring out what kind of creep they are. I maybe speaking before my term, but i would be surprised to be honest. Same age as your daughter? I mean.... Where is this going? Saying yes mom to someone the same age but being with your dad? Yeah, sounds like a sure game plan | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 11:43 PM |
| 7 | The biggest problem we have today is the demonization of men’s sexuality, while uplifting women’s sexualityYou asked me if my daughter 12 year old was hot and single but I am the creep? Where is that troll be gone bottle I keep below the counter? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 11:34 PM |
| -2 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.The funny thing is, woman who think they are the shit cause they make a couple of thousands a year make this their personality and their thing for the guys they want to date, while they want to date guys who think a couple of thiusand a month as pocket change I get that they are proud cause you managed to climb up. Kuddo's on you. But the guy you are seeking after is not impressed and whatever you did, those are not the qualities he is after. That is the big dating dillema these days. I don't li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 11:21 PM |
| 7 | The biggest problem we have today is the demonization of men’s sexuality, while uplifting women’s sexualityShe is 12. Come and find out (gently wipes the oil with a cloth over his katana) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 10:51 PM |
| 11 | The biggest problem we have today is the demonization of men’s sexuality, while uplifting women’s sexualityI saw a post today in i think amitheasshole from a 23 year old woman who came to ask if she was in the wrong for not wanting to spend her "dad" holiday with him and his new 23yo girlfriend. The same age as her. As a father myself, I can't even begin to imagine dating anyone near my own daughter's age range, let alone het age. And its not an exception. You see this stuff all of the time and as a guy: it is just a huge cringe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 08:20 PM |
| 3 | Men are just as hypergamous as women.6000 swipes and two months for a date.. God.. What the hell are we all doing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 11:42 AM |
| 2 | Does anyone here believe in love and actually finding someone who cares about them?I personally do and while I have seen some wild stuff here, this sub also showed me there are people out here, in abundance, with the same somewhat oldskool morals and values as me, i just need to find them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 07:25 AM |
| – | we should criticize deadbeat dads (to an extent) not single momsYeah, have you every tried calling out a dead beat mom as a guy? Everyone is on board when I call out the deadbeat dad. But the shit I have seen go down calling p Out the mom who takes her kid out to bars to the point he calls his dad "cause it is 11pm and mom is still getting hammered at the bar, please come and pick me up". There is still a double standard. Don't say anything wrong about woman. Period. Cause some army will show up with reasons why this is ok, and you will be taken down. I just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Confidence for men requires seeing oneself as better than other menBeing competent and knowing you are competent are 2 very different things. Look at the pyramide of competence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_competence And then we are not even talking about people with confidence Vs insecure. Just check r/confidentlyincorrect But some people, who know the are experts in something and don't boast it. Those are confident people. I am an expert on a certain tech topic, yet i don't boast it and when someone is wrong, i will not put them down. I will … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 05:34 PM |
| 1 | What if humans laid eggs?Well, I would be childless.y ex couldn't even keep track of things she found important like keys, her wallet, cellphone or kids. Pretty sure she would have left the eggs on the roof of the car and drive off at some point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 03:56 AM |
| 2 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousGo check the dating apps subs. They ain't happier. They just say they are while pondering over why they let the player fuck and ditch them, and why they can't find the guy they desire | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Ex-wife (38F) introduced kids to her new boyfriend of two months, am I (39M) wrong to be mad?You are not wrong to be mad. This sounds like a Trainwreck to begin with. 10 year younger bad boy. Introcuding to the kids after barely 2 months. Nah | /r/Divorce_Men | 19/06/23 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Why do low quality guys just not lower your standards comparable to where you actually are?Exactly. With the exception (methahore) being: there are obese homeless people without income aiming for c-suite or higher (anecdotally) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 07:25 PM |
| – | Women define being single as not in an official relationship, men define being single as not sexually active. This leads to an inherent lack of understanding.I believe men mean not in a mutually agreed upon exclusive relationship, and woman mean "not seeing someone seriously" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Why do low quality guys just not lower your standards comparable to where you actually are?All of these things are pretty biased too be honest. What is "unattractive"? What is "low income"? What is "poor social skills"? Ask a homeless person what is low income? Now ask a blue colar worker? A software developer ? a c-suite,? a politician? You will get very different answers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 07:15 PM |
| 1 | When guys claim their only problem is the lack of sex, we should believe them. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so obsessive about not getting laid.Oh, as a 6'3 guy: if the chick is not tall herselves, hard left. A lot of tall dudes who date for something real do this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 07:09 PM |
| 2 | When guys claim their only problem is the lack of sex, we should believe them. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so obsessive about not getting laid.And woman too. We both want the same too be honest. Just look at all the posts on the dating apps subs. "He treated my nice, we had 2 or 3 dates, had sex and I haven't heard from this asshole since"... Uhu, he is the asshole. He figured out how to play woman madame, and you fell for it. Was he player? For sure, but you fell for it and that is that part you do have control over but no, rather project that on all guys than to check yourself why you let this happen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 07:07 PM |
| 1 | When guys claim their only problem is the lack of sex, we should believe them. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so obsessive about not getting laid.Sex is intamacy. We don't get a lot of that and it keeps on surprising me woman don't realize that When I put my ex wife before the choice of "we have coupes therapy within 3 months, or I am out" I already read every book there is about dead bedrooms, relationship therapy, couples therapy etc. I gave options, possibilites, ideas but nothing changed (20/20 hindsight, she already checked out already) So we arrived the couple's therapy fully expecting the therapist reaffirming i am the honey dude a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Why do low quality guys just not lower your standards comparable to where you actually are?Define "low quality guys"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 06:40 PM |
| 7 | Traditional or 'pick me' women are the smartest people on Earth, outside the elite few men who run the world.Yeah, my daughter is 12. An 18 year old is a teenager to me. I don't have a single thing in common with them and don't see them as a potential partner. I'll happily play lottery or stay single over dealing with a teenager as a girlfriend. Already got one to educate as a dad 😅 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 06:35 AM |
| 5 | Traditional or 'pick me' women are the smartest people on Earth, outside the elite few men who run the world.I view it differently. I obviously picked the wrong wife when I was younger and learned from it. There are plenty of woman out there who made the same mistake as I did. I do actively avoid the ones who did 15 years of messy situations and relationships or ff-ing around or those who don't know what they want. But the ones who learned from their divorce and want a second try? Yes please. And feeling better than anyone else honestly sounds a bit like a douche. I do have a bunch of stuff going for m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 06:21 AM |
| 19 | Traditional or 'pick me' women are the smartest people on Earth, outside the elite few men who run the world.Can we be done with this "guys who want one girl are simps" BS? I am a 42yo male. Divorced, good running business and income, kids 50/50 and a home owner. I am not into chasing women or getting as much p*ssy as I can cause honestly, I have other shit to do in my life. I am open to a life partner and that is it. Do I simp? Hell no, but i ain't loosing time chasing women either. Preffering a monogamous relationship does not make you a simp. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 06:04 AM |
| 1 | Men overly fixated on women's sex lives have other issuesIf they are tall themselves, different story. I understand the biological desire of a woman to want a taller man. a 4'8 chick wanting a 6'3 guy? (and I am European)... I mean... I have a back too... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 09:28 PM |
| 4 | Men overly fixated on women's sex lives have other issuesYes, this is how you end up with players who tell other women whatever they want to hear to get laid. Form your own opinion cause your sisters are being lied to and making the wrong choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 08:42 PM |
| 3 | Men overly fixated on women's sex lives have other issuesIt's really simple: a girl who had sex a 1000 times a year cause she had sex with her boyfriend 3 times a day is a very sexual person. A girl who fucks 3 different guys a day for a year is viewed differently. Women value men in one way, men value women in a different way. You couldn't find a man that wanted to keep you or treat you right? I am not calling you a slut, but I also ain't dating you. You couldn't get a guy to commit to you before, so why should I? What changed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 08:40 PM |
| 9 | Men overly fixated on women's sex lives have other issuesNo, as a 6'3 guy, i call them height supremacists and swipe left out of principle :-) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 08:12 PM |
| 2 | Men overly fixated on women's sex lives have other issuesAh yes, someone disagrees with my genius. Them must be dumb. There are millions of woman out there arguing the same thing about men. Don't date a player who had sex with tons of girls. The debate is always pushed toward gender, but it is in fact a discussion about values and norms. Some people want to be promiscuous, some don't. Simple. I know plenty of female friends who will run when they encounter a player cause that is not their morals or values. Should they then be shamed too? Cause the dud… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Men overly fixated on women's sex lives have other issuester women.There are consequences for your pas And you don't want your men about your very niche arbitrary standard of you think men should behave? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 07:47 PM |
| 2 | Nonverbal consentYou question is a foolish and extreme question to begin with. Which girl is more likely to go to prison: The one that says I am not feeling it and i want to break up, OR The one that kills your cat, slashes your tires and scratches your car on her way out.. I mean, if you like extremes, this is where the game is. And one of them should definitely not be doing relationships. But you very professionally ignored my question on they sub thread | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: What are some positive things about modern feminism?Yeah, from Europe. We haven't had stay at home moms in over 2 decades and very few could. But the ones who could would not be so annoying about it. I think the thing a lot of guys (and I may be projecting here) have difficulty with is a lot of woman who now face the same load (and many even less than men) complain how hard it is and how their man is not providing for them. They don't want to do it themselves, but they see a lot of guys doing the same and not finding it enough cause that means th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 10:29 PM |
| 3 | Describe the "modern man"Haha, tell me you didn't divorce without telling me you didn't divorce. 42yo male, succesful career in tech with 2 kids 50/50.. been divorced for 5 years now after 15 years of marriage and nobody that peaked my interest or for the sake of honest i got to keep..don't be too sure on that claim bruh. Dating has changed. I don't know into what it did, but it changed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4M - How would you advise your daughters to navigate the dating scene?If you are having these kinds of discussions with your kid, you didn't give the right example and stepped into to the game too late. My guess and question: did you have a dad in your life that was present while you were growing up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Q4M - How would you advise your daughters to navigate the dating scene?That is your view dude. They needs to distinguish between players and partners. I was always a serials monogamous partner. Friends of mine were players. Guess what? They stayed players. I stayed serially monogamous. That is the story I feel need to be thought | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4M - How would you advise your daughters to navigate the dating scene?Bruh, my daughter is 12 and guys in her class come up with his shit and she asks me questions about it. So yeah, it is a thing and as a parent, you have to deal with it in a decent way. And 12 Is beyond the age you can say "cause I told you so". It is discussion, arguments,. Which are all good. But that is reality. They are exposed to it one way or the other ( i am IT guy so I block it on their devices, but then it seeps in through classmates) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4M - How would you advise your daughters to navigate the dating scene?Oh, my daughter is 12, is aware of Andrew Tate and I have informed her or his bullshit as a 42yo man.. he is taking things to the extreme and way out of context. My daughter will struggle dating looking at the modern day scene, but she will end up with a good guy, not a Tate idiot nor another extreme. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: What are some positive things about modern feminism?https://youtu.be/5QML71sBu1E | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 09:52 PM |
| 8 | Describe the "modern man"Me too, and I am an atheist | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 09:46 PM |
| 0 | Describe the "modern man"The fact that 80% of divorces are initiated by woman flew right over your head I assume? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 09:45 PM |
| 3 | Describe the "modern man"I would have to disagree with you on some level. The tradition was one of the spouses was in charge. Not necessarily the man. If you think it is, you didn't meet my grandmother for sure. But i do believe one person leads the relationship even though she was the stay at home mom and my grandfather was the provider. These days however, I see most relationships fail on agreeing on that fact and failing to find a compromise. There is not two captains on a ship, so modern day relationships, either yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 09:43 PM |
| 3 | Nonverbal consentThen please remove yourself from the dating pool until you are ready to date. No shade, no trying to shame. But you are simply not ready in my opinion. Anyone who needs that level of consent needs some self work to do before projecting their stuff onto other people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 09:36 PM |
| 1 | Nonverbal consentAmen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 09:18 PM |
| 7 | Nonverbal consentThis is an extreme statement that does not make any sense. You are taking two extremely opposites and making it about jail. Which guy is gonna be the leader of a group. The guy who politely asks if he please can be the leader? Of they guy that read the room and takes the lead cause he reads it is ok? Maybe you should worry more about why your guy cannot read the room and keeps asking for permission? You know the saying better one oops than a thousand what if's? You guy is doing a thousand what i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 09:15 PM |
| 8 | Men, Can you touching a women be 100% platonic?If he keeps asking for it, it is 💯 creepy and not platonic. I do touch, hug and kiss women on the cheek and am being platonic (mainly friends wives, girlfriends or mom's of my kids friends) but you kinda feel th vibe and go for what feel appropriate. If you have to ask, that would be red flag one. If you keep on asking/begging for it... Yeah, I have a lot of questions. Even more after multiple declines. Totally creepy and not respecting wishes/boundaries to be honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Settling is not a bad thing. It’s just a thing.I would like to see what people think is settling anyway? Who is settling for what? Cause everyone has their own set of desired Imagine you are a handsome smart guy with a couple of million in the bank. What would be settling? A hot chick without education and broke? A smart chick with lots of money but not favored in the looks department? a smart hot woman who decided she wanted to do hit yoga with little income the rest of her life and combination of those but she has opposite child wished of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Settling is not a bad thing. It’s just a thing.That is just the thing. You can be perfectly happy with someone but (to go to the extreme) imagine someone likes big bobbies. But he meets this awesome chick, they make friends, he falls in love and she has an A cup. I mean. The personality part is way more important and changing someone is just a serious no no. So, you have 2 options. A) you feel like you are settling for someone and ditch her. B) you try and change your mindset about boob size cause she is everything you want in every other wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 07:06 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: How many women do you know actually "dual mate"?I personally believe a lot of this is age related. My theory is like this: If you are a monogamous seeking person bumping into the wrong person at an early age, and you make the mistake of going for this person and end up divorced, you end up at a later age with all the people who have attachment issues, no self awareness etc. And it becomes a shit show. Choosing wisely in early years matters. I am old enough to have know dating before OLD and basically you had 2 types back then too. Those who f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 06:53 PM |
| 2 | The reason why we forgive men more for picking crappy womenMen are forgiven about picking a crappy woman? Really? I was married to mildly narcissistic woman for nearly 13 years. The only person who ever gave me a remotely sense of forgiveness was our couples therapist. And even that might have been an interpretation on my side but I am keeping it cause it kept the little of my sanity I had left at the time. Woman shame us for picking the wrong woman or simply ignore us. Men laugh with us cause "we got the hot crazy scale wrong" Go read some of the insan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 06:40 PM |
| 3 | Are there any women in favor of the passport bro movement?I think Western woman are depressed looking at the rants they put on their dating profile and here on reddit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 06:08 PM |
| 3 | Why women initiate 80% of divorceI once came home and thought we had burglars. Turns out my ex-wife was in a hurry and couldn't find her mobile coffee cup, so she opened every cabinet door in the kitchen, left it open, pulled out half of the content of the cabinet to check and left it on the kitchen counter. When she found the cup, she bounced to work. People are weird man Same goes for when it was her cooking days, there was always something and there was no food on the table and I ended up cooking while on my cooking days, di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Male feminists/Simps are often sexually and romantically inexperienced.Feminism is a huge abstract construct so I am curious what you mean by it. Cause equal rights for woman? Hell yeah. First and second wave? Hell yeah Third.... Meh... There are some things I'd have to think about Forth/current? What in the holy Frankenstein is this thing and who came up with this cluster fuck? Someone skipped statistics class and went straight to the magic mushroom stand | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Men don’t see unattractive women as humanYeah, you need to associate with other people then. I see everyone as human and treat everyone the same. Looks are just dna and having grown up working in my mom's retail business, looks don't do shit for me in how to treat someone. How they treat me however, will determine how I treat them. If you are shitty to me, I'll be cold to you and vice versa. Hot, or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 06:24 AM |
| 1 | You never think that maybe it's better to just work out constantly rather that find partner?Be deliberate then. Figure out what you want. Be realistic.. Hire a professional matchmaker and get a reality check from them. If what you want is feasible, let them find it for you. OLD is a waste of your time that you could spend on much more important stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 05:57 AM |
| 0 | You never think that maybe it's better to just work out constantly rather that find partner?I see guys do this. I see girls do this. Spend some cash on therapy and figure out what a good relationship should be and what to look for. Do some inner work until you understand cause it ain't about being the fittest man/woman and honestly, a fit girl is a huge red flag to me and a fit boy should be for any woman. If you are purely looking for good shape I have news for both genders: you have no fucking clue what a good relationship is about.... Purgeeeeeeeee week. Edit: oh, and for them into … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 08:14 PM |
| 1 | What are guys supposed to do to improve their situation realistically?Very much fine. I am. Lt argue against that. But i would argue against woman who don't know what the f they want, make kids with a guy cause they they don't know what they want and then make it a dumpster fire. I knew and clearly communicated what I wanted I early n what i wanted. Ex agreed. Followed along an then after figured out she wanted to be a single childless woman. You know when this becomes a thing? When you are are a mom of 2 wanting a divorce. You want to be a single childless mother… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/23 12:13 AM |
| 6 | What are guys supposed to do to improve their situation realistically?38m virgin telling men how to do it...... I am flabbergast to be honest The numbers game only works for chads who have nothing better to do than wasting time on playing dating games. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 08:31 PM |
| 2 | What are guys supposed to do to improve their situation realistically?Nah, we need to find a new balance. Woman and men both are unhaply. And having 50% needing to adapt sounds seriously entitled to be honest. Do you want to work together or just have other people listen and do what you say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 08:29 PM |
| 1 | What are guys supposed to do to improve their situation realistically?Honestly, don't listen to woman a out what you can improve. You will get a different opinion from every woman and still be none the wiser. Figure out what you want and who you are. If you comprise that, you are just molding yourself into the person that specific woman wants you to be. When you put on self ironed shirt and pants in the morning, let it be because you feel good in it, not to impress them. Let go of some of the manosphere stuff (body count and some other stuff) but learn about what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 08:27 PM |
| 1 | 63% of men in their 20s are single compared to 34% of women, which is the age cohort when young women care about looks the mostIt's simply a mismatch in finding someone. i am a 6'3 guy who is in shape and knows zilch about sports. I am however an intellectual. I get attention from girls cause I don't advertise to sports lovers. find your audience and tailer your marketing to them. Are you a geek going after cheerleaders? you are gonna have a hard time. Are you a geek going after geeks who value the same things as you ? bingo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 07:40 PM |
| 1 | 63% of men in their 20s are single compared to 34% of women, which is the age cohort when young women care about looks the mostThat is a nice projection. I don't fall for any woman based on looks. Show me who you are as a person and maybe I'll consider dating you if you are interesting enough. You may have had that experience, but honestly, it tells me more about you and the people you are picking than men and women in general | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Women over value how much their career and education is attractive to menIt's not to impress women. It's to turn up in the outer upper left corner of a decent woman's eye sight. I come from a family where my father was the high earner first, then my mom started a business and after a couple of years was outearning my father (although they both put effort in the company). It has never been a thing for them cause it was a team project and that is how I view things too. I make a decent pay in tech (top 3% in my country) and don't look up or down or even consider income … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Women over value how much their career and education is attractive to menI don't think that was their idea when they set out their career, I think they just came to the realization that the old saying "it is lonely at the top" is pretty gender neutral and maybe even worse for woman cause a woman at the top of their field Is not what lot of guys are looking for. And often not what the the guys they themselves desire are into | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 07:08 PM |
| 2 | Men and Women define casual sex differently, leading to total misunderstanding of each otherThat really depends on the person and their mindset. I am a hardcore LTR guy. But causual sex is still on the table because needs. The thing is: If it is just for sex, meeting for a talk and coffee is about the most effort I will put into showing I am not a serial killer. I am not gonna woo and wine and dine a chick when we both agreed it is just gonna be sex. If you already have that in your profile, why would you expect a big wooing. It is pretty black or white yo be honest. You are ready for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 07:32 PM |
| – | Age gap relationships are fine if the older party isn’t misrepresenting the relationship to the younger party.That is exactly something a young woman would say do why the hell would i date one? They see the world uni-dimensional cause they are spring chickens. Nothing wrong with that, it is the difference in maturity. Men and woman have tons of stuff in common, but at young age, they are looking at the wrong stuff to have in common. Good relationships are not about having the same interests. It is about having the same values and norms. And having a couple of joint projects which could be smze interests… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Age gap relationships are fine if the older party isn’t misrepresenting the relationship to the younger party.And i am saying it is weird to me. I as a 42yo man who regularly interacts when people ages 22 to 25 would not have any interest in dating one of them other then purely being hot' and that is not my jam (well, not of that is the only thing anyway). So you tell me? What else would a 40yo man see in an 18yo woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:39 AM |
| 1 | Age gap relationships are fine if the older party isn’t misrepresenting the relationship to the younger party.From a purely biological point of view, there is something to say for each of your statements. Should a person, whose brain is not fully developed make life-altering or body-altering decisions? What I tried to say with my original comment is: for me, as a 42-year-old guy, an 18-year-old woman is a child. My daughter is 12 which is not that far removed from 18. When I see an 18-year-old girl, she looks like a teenager at best. Sure, sexually attractive but that is about it. So for me, a 40yo dati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 05:33 AM |
| – | CMV: Men today have a massive victim mentality, and it is holding them back from finding success.There isn't a large percentage of us, and it isn't. My ex used to call herself a ceo cause we had 6 employees. I come from a multinational background and i have a 20 person teal being nowhere near a ceo level. It is about the room we are in.she is thinking I am the boss's and have 6 people ony team. I am a ceo..i have 20 people and am one of many. I am not a ceo. Different measures, different lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 09:17 PM |
| 6 | The way women behave with men they’re genuinely attracted to is very different compared to the way they behave with men that have merely grown on them.Honestly, what guy doesn't eat pussy? I know I am putting my own experience forward but what the hell. I love getting my d sucked, i also love to eat pussy 😂 sex is mutual pleasure. You give, you take 🤷 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 09:09 PM |
| – | CMV: Men today have a massive victim mentality, and it is holding them back from finding success.So they figured it out. Good on them. And honestly, this is what it is about. They found their dynamic and honestly, this is the dynamic i believe in. One is the ceo, the other one is the chief of household. And i dont't care about gender. I just don't believe in both have ceo ambitions. And that is what I l fighting here cause many woman aiming high want a guy even aiming higher. I don't believe that works cause that means the family needs to be outsourced. I believe in one doing the corporate … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:39 PM |
| – | CMV: Men today have a massive victim mentality, and it is holding them back from finding success.To reach ceo level? Let me mansplain it for you: it means offering evetything. And yours and men is not the same but you still have to find out. There is not ceo job of 40 or 60 hours a week. You are ceo 24/7. Wanna do that? And you got a man that is onboard with that and wants to ditch his career for yours? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:25 PM |
| 0 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isMen can marry a CEO or a McDonald's servant as long as they like them back... Uhu.. this part is delusional honestly. A female ceo is not going to want just any guy. You are mixing up woman's options with men's. It doesn't work like that for men at all. A female ceo wants equal or better. Which means a similar ceo or c-level in a bigger company (aka bigger fish) with an exception here and there. And the guys you are mentioning who are not as selective? They are 99% chad who will date any woman a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:07 PM |
| 4 | Women’s hypersensitivity to awkwardness and lack of social prowess/dominance is not rooted in fear or some “survival instinct” they’ve evolved in response to dangerous men, but rather in their privilege and abundanceHonestly, the level of dominance a growing proportion of woman want in a man, is someone we would kick out of our male friends group cause he is just an ass. This whole alpha beta story? It is not a thing. A lot of guys just roll their eyes at these alpha types and turn their backs to them cause they are selfish horrible people so i just let them go and the woman that desire them with em. Good riddance. These guys basically fake their social skills because of a Deep rooted insecurity and desire … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Age gap relationships are fine if the older party isn’t misrepresenting the relationship to the younger party.Anyone dating someone below age of approximately 25 is basically dating an adolescent. As a 42 year old male, i would not ever consider dating someone that age cause they are basically childish/kids to me. One of the many sources you can find: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3621648/#:~:text=In%20fact%2C%20there%20are%20characteristic,approximately%2025%20years%20of%20age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Women over value how much their career and education is attractive to menAh, nice, you selectively pick out parts. Don't you feel my first paragraph represents a well rounded partner? Having good career yet still coming home and doing their part in the family/partnership? What is a well rounded partner to woman? Cause my ex thought she didn't have one until she got back to dating. I disagree, you make this about men and woman. I see it differently: people who are in the top of their field (gender neutral) basically make this their whole identity. And men will look da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Women over value how much their career and education is attractive to menI was married for 15 years and am yet to receive my first hot meal from my ex wife. Cooking isn't a womans job, but chores are supposed to be a shared burden. So yeah, I want someone who has basic life skills to share the burden with. I live in Europe so the whole woman does household, man makes money is very outdated here tbh. Nobody here is looking for a woman to do the household. We are looking for a partner who can communicate which division of chores works for us as a couple. As for the sec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Women over value how much their career and education is attractive to men"smart about some things, dumb about others. I recently read that single people die 7 years earlier on average so you could say I am here for health reasons. Me: serious about the important stuff like my kids, career, friends. All the rest is fair game for sillyness. You: communicative, emotionally mature and ok with growing in love by getting to know eachother over falling in love head over heals Also available in NL" Honestly, looking at bios for me it so funny and obvious. Either woman show t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 04:47 PM |
| 2 | Women over value how much their career and education is attractive to menI have a pretty good career and sure, my colleagues are important to me because of that. But that is not my identity. And that is where the difference is. I see woman doing pretty ok in their career, but they turned it into their whole identity which honestly for a guy who did this his whole life and is beyond her, is a puzzle cause that is not what we are looking for. That is where today's dating challenge is. Sure, so you did the same as men have been doing for decades. What else is your perso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Women over value how much their career and education is attractive to menNah, but i get where op is coming from. I cannot even count the online dating bios stating where they have x diploma and y job and that is about all of their identity. Maybe that they travel too..and that is all they have on their bio so basically, if that is what you picked on the 500 character bio, i am guessing that is what you put your identity upon and how you view yourself 🤷 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 11:43 PM |
| 4 | Women over value how much their career and education is attractive to menThis sounds like 2 different discussions. A) will a man be proud of their partner for their accomplishments? Yes B) Do men put you way up for achieving the same things that have been demanded of them for decades without any cheering? No I am from Europe, so different context. But honestly, seeing woman flex things they have demanded from men for decades! Yeah... So you caught up, especially in my local context you had this opportunity for around 40 years. Your choice, but you picked the "interes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 08:21 PM |
| 2 | Women over value how much their career and education is attractive to menMen care about a womans degree in hopes you have intelligence. That is not the same as men being in awe of your accomplishments. Someone without a degree can still be proud of their accomplishments, trying to date up and meeting people with a career who think "meh", pretty basic. Edit: typos | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 08:12 PM |
| 2 | Women over value how much their career and education is attractive to menIt really depends. I am not in the us, but i see woman boosting about their accomplishments thinking yeah, this is what an average guy wouldn't even talk about because he knows it average but they boast it like they won the world record in something. And i never, ever match with these people. I am also, purely on an income and career perspective (and don't get me wrong cause I don't mean this in any demeaning or putting down way) their superior. I am higher up the proverbial food chain. A lot. B… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 08:08 PM |
| 3 | Women are just as visual as men. It's just that most men don't elicit this type of attractionAnd has him described somewhere in the text putting out just enough for the reader to create their perfect image of tall dark handsome | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Women are just as visual as men. It's just that most men don't elicit this type of attractionI honestly believe woman are as visual as men BUT, they also want high income and several other traits, making their demand package bigger and thus slimming down their chances. You want a guy who is kinda, smart, strong, 6 feet, makes a 6 figure income and is handsome? I mean... Sure.. I want world peace,every human fed properly and no more inequality.... I mean... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 07:23 PM |
| 2 | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?Honestly, the fact that he says he his insecure means he is self-aware which to me is a huge green flag. At least he knows and is not acting out because of his insecurities without even realizing it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 05:32 PM |
| 3 | Is it me, or has toxicity towards men been normalized?Dude, are you ok? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Women are valued for what they doWhy would that be selfish? I mean, I can still talk to her about her hobby cause I care about her. But should I automatically like her hobby and participate cause she is my partner? Should I expect her to tinker with electronics together with me or renovate an old car? If she wants to, great. But I really don't expect my partner to join me in things she has no interest in. Just ask me how about how my hobby projects are going from time to time is more than enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 11:13 AM |
| 0 | Did any of your exes want to get back together 2, 3, 4+ yrs down the road even if they initiated the divorce?Nono, it happened for sure. That is not in doubt. But it made her realize she left a safe relationship and the world is way worse than she thought it was and now she kinda desires to get back into safety... but as said.. Trust is broken and the door is closed permanently. I am not putting my emotional/mental health at risk again to her | /r/Divorce_Men | 31/05/23 09:58 AM |
| 1 | Most PEOPLE are undateable. Women are just held to a lower standard when it comes to undateable behaviorA lot of men are not trying to date, they are trying to get laid... And only that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:00 AM |
| 1 | Did any of your exes want to get back together 2, 3, 4+ yrs down the road even if they initiated the divorce?Sexual assault | /r/Divorce_Men | 31/05/23 06:39 AM |
| 4 | Most PEOPLE are undateable. Women are just held to a lower standard when it comes to undateable behaviorThis. I will take someone self-aware, with a positive growth mindset and a ton of baggage over someone calling themselves a 10 with minor baggage any day of the week | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 06:37 AM |
| 4 | Did any of your exes want to get back together 2, 3, 4+ yrs down the road even if they initiated the divorce?Ex wife gave up on us and divorced 5 years ago. My guess is she went through some mid life crisis thing (lots of partying, hooking up) but meanwhile reality was hitting reality (financially) and she has made several remarks the past few years about "maybe we could have made it work" or "i often wonder wether I made a mistake". After an SA last year (which is horrible for her obviously) that intensified even more. I just keep on blocking it cause the trust is gone. I forced her into couples thera… | /r/Divorce_Men | 31/05/23 06:31 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Have you personally, or do you know any women who were only able to find success with men after lowering their standards? How do you feel in general about men or women lowering their standards to find success?Very curious about your age. Cause "not having trouble to date" Is not the same as "have been able to lock down a guy" . For whatever reason, we have made "being able to get a lot of dates" the succes factor. While in all honesty it is "being able to keep one" (and sure, if you ditched them for whatever reason, that is your thing, but getting an amount of dates is not what it is about really) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 10:27 PM |
| 3 | Women are valued for what they doYeah, you really need to take a long hard look at yourself and change your dating pool. You sense of usefulness is personality. I literally have a group of 10s of friends who don't do bad in life and just want a woman who they are attracted to, is loyal, clear communication, has basic life skills (like cooking, cleaning, household and they will do their part too) .. so this feels a lot like projection. Heck, I have been married/together for almost 15 years with my ex and still await my first hot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 10:01 PM |
| 6 | Women are valued for what they doThe thing I miss in "being loved for who you are" is self development. Men are constantly told they need to self improve to deserve love (fitness, job, awareness, basically everything) and woman are being told, by their own sisters to be loved for who they are, not sparking any self improvement at all. So you get this weird world where the guys that want to improve are constantly working on themselves, and the woman just sit and wait for the perfect guy to arrive doing zero self reflection. I am… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Women are valued for what they doBeing a caring, nurturing, kind person IS personality to be honest. This is the mistake most woman make. Do we want to be attracted to you? Yes, but most men who want to commit put much less value into it than woman do. But those personality traits? Definitely. And no, for me personally, I don't give a shit about what you do or how much money you make, as long as you are happy. I have my own career, make plenty enough for a family so no, i am not looking a high earner or career woman. I have nev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 09:40 PM |
| 6 | How Bad Is This Divorce Going To F*ck Up My Kids?Gonna second this. Figure out a way to be further your career while being physically around. Your life is not about you anymore but about them. You ditching them for your own advancement is the worst signal you can give to a kid. They matter enough to call them but your career and you are more important? | /r/Divorce_Men | 29/05/23 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Men dont actually care about a women being healthyExactly, and my point is: change your fucking room.you want to project this to all people of the gender that did this to you? Sure, your life. You can also look at it antother way and think damn, these motherfuckers don't work. Maybe there are other people out there. What triggers me is yet again, all men are xxx. Change. Your. Room. You have the power. You want to keep on going for that one room with top players who demand their ideal? That is on you, not on the rest of the world. Plenty of top… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 09:48 PM |
| 2 | Men dont actually care about a women being healthyFunny enough that is true, and i know bro. I am a tall geeky nerd not into sports, but they are all but nice to me. I am often the tallest, never the biggest, but hey are bros 99,999% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 09:39 PM |
| 2 | Men dont actually care about a women being healthyUnless you have been in Belgium, you are now just pulling info out of your ass. I empathize with your experience but that doesn't mean it works all over the world. It is your experience in your world. And hey, yeah, you want to tell your girlfriend big and beautiful is ok and a guy he should go to the gym? Uhu. Double standards. You are right, we seem to have those global 🤷 In terms of critism it is pretty simple.. guys who accept outside of the norm is dating down and woman don't want to do tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 09:34 PM |
| 0 | Men dont actually care about a women being healthyDifferent country, i will grant you that, but if that is your experience get the fuck out of your situation woman. I would not have my daughter in it for over a minute if that is really true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Men dont actually care about a women being healthyIf people can notice 2kg more, you need to change your surroundings. Woman, girl, whatever. I was too lazy to check your profile. Your weight should only be a flake in the equation of any potential partner. You wanna play bad boys and superficial guys? Keep going. Anyone who wants to build something reals Is not looking at kg's girl. They are looking at personality. This person is just trying to get down yours | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Men dont actually care about a women being healthyYeah, if that is the case ,you need to change your scenary and revaluate. You can blaim whoever the hell you want, but context is everything. Put me in a room with bodybuilders and they will have a thing or 2 to say about me too. Except that is not my scene and I don't give a rat's ass because of it 🤷 value being put on you, is done by you, not others | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 08:57 PM |
| – | You wanna know why it’s hard for men to find casual sex? I’ll tell you why.Maybe I just picked the wrong ones, but i had this happen several times. Basically expecting the same effort on wooing as I would expect for something serious.. but yeah, I had your experience too from some which is a lot more sensible. But i agree with another post here, often the signals are really mixed. Being highly sexual in their own ad and then being surprised that they receive highly sexual messages... I mean... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 05:21 PM |
| – | You wanna know why it’s hard for men to find casual sex? I’ll tell you why.I agree to a certain point. A lot of woman looking for casual sex want you to jump through the same hoops and reach the same bar as they put on a guy for a relationship while guys look at casual sex Vs relationship material wildly different. And a lot basically put in low effort since it is a short term investment. If it works, they get laid, if not 🤷 Modern dating is just a shit show | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 04:54 PM |
| 3 | It finally clickedI fully understand it can be a bit of a shock. But see it like this: she has taken zero lessons from her divorce and is already applying these on someone else. She is just waiting to get the divorce signed to make the same mistake again work someone else. You take your time to learn man. Learn what went wrong, what was on you, what was on her and do better next time | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/02/23 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Blindside her, or try to make it amicable?Ok, different point of view as I am from Belgium and we have a very different legal system. I look at it this way: no fault state so legally, things can be worked out. But you have a kid together man. I read horror stories here, and I totally understand cause of the legal stuff in their situation. But as humans: talk. Communicate. Tell her how you feel and try to not blaim her. Blindsighting her will 100% piss her off. I understand the financial part, but as a divorced guy myself (42, 2 kids) th… | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/02/23 07:19 PM |
| 0 | bro the recent posts on the sub are so low qualityEuhm? I am just asking what posts you are referring to and what differences you notice. No need to for name calling | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/22 07:18 AM |
| 3 | "Men only notice attractive women". Is this really true?Honestly, to me it really depends. Personality can easily add or subtract "3 points" since we are measuring. A 9 can quickly be a 6 or less and the other way around. Looks are zero indicator to solid relationship material imho. I know a lot of guys to lead with it, but being a bit older: either your are hot and sure, that will be fun, or you are a good person and that will last. And if you are hot that is a very appreciated bonus | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 09:34 PM |
| 1 | bro the recent posts on the sub are so low qualityTbh, I am no pill, and I would never really ask body count, but if it comes up I would pay attention. I am a bit older and through experience I have came to believe that: " some people like to experiment with a lot of people, and some like to experiment a lot with one". I am of the last school and don't want to be the first schools experiment #xyz if I get emotionally invested. Just a personal preference. They can do whatever they want but I am out Edit: what I don't understand is why the keeps … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 08:56 PM |
| 0 | bro the recent posts on the sub are so low qualityWhat is the specific difference between a couple of weeks ago and now? You say low effort but that is kinda generic. Do you have concrete examples? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 08:51 PM |
| 1 | bro the recent posts on the sub are so low qualityOf what? Of whom? Do I need to sharpen my non-existing bow skills? Are the Hunger Games imminent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 08:28 PM |
| 2 | There is no evidence to support that 80% of women are sleeping with 20% of men. There never wasI honestly believe that old is a toxic pool and most men and woman on there are the real "leftovers" and with good reason. I also believe that on old, this wtatistic might hold up and honestly, they can have each other. None of my irl dating experiences have been anywhere near the toxic and hurtful old experience tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Promiscuity and casual sex is unfair to men therefore men are 100% justified in not dating promiscuous women. Which is 100% about personality and not looks.No, I totally agree. The shaming is completely out of line. To each their own and all. Even the Hole hoe culture thing. If people want to make a sport out of sleeping with as many as possible, by all means let them. Don't shame them. Vote in silence with your commitment 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 06:49 AM |
| 4 | Promiscuity and casual sex is unfair to men therefore men are 100% justified in not dating promiscuous women. Which is 100% about personality and not looks.It's not pretend, plenty of studies for this to be real. Woman being selective is still like 1:10 while men being selective is like 1:10.000. The point is some people like to get experience from different people, some want to gain experience from being in a relationship and that is where the friction is..I have female friends who had sex with a 100+ guys. Some male friends too btw. Others had fewer, just like me I had 3 long partners with whom I had sex thousands of times (multi year relationshi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 08:33 PM |
| 3 | women that constantly post their body’s on social media/wear revealing clothing are they more likely to get used by people or men?Oh, you are absolutely right, but adhering to the 666 demands, most of these woman are a joke. They offer superficial advantages and none of their demands are intellectual. They are the ones who think pussy is what we are asking for, and that says more about her and the guys she is going for than than guys themselves. Yeah girl, go be a toy for what you think is a high value man. Chase a guy ,who is only valuing pussy, win the price you were chasing 🤷♂️ It is really not that complicated. Most m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/22 09:46 PM |
| 3 | Just saw my ex's tiktoks... feeling down asf.I had the exact same experience but was financially secure. While she was partying and "living her best life", I was spending time with my kids and friends. It finally caught up with her when she got r*ped leading her promiscuous life and now, 4 years after our divorce, she said she made a mistake and that life is hard as a single parent and maybe we should not have splitters. Uhu, I have been doing this for 4 years and I was 1,5 of the 2 parents. Your day will come..just work on you, don't drin… | /r/Divorce_Men | 07/10/22 04:54 PM |
| 2 | I want to understand why guys complain about women yet gay guys don’t complain about each other?Just like some woman never will 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/22 05:48 PM |
| 2 | I want to understand why guys complain about women yet gay guys don’t complain about each other?Wait what? All of my gay friends complain even lmorr than straight people not finding anyone who wants to commit. What is this about anyway? 😅 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/22 05:47 PM |
| 1 | Toxic femininity?Most men will refer to a (self declared or other) Alpha male as a narcissist to be honest. But they have their toxic ways to get higher up | /r/MensRights | 29/09/22 09:03 PM |
| -1 | ONLINE DATING STATS: The figures are in for OkCupid and Hinge, and what a surprise it's more dude fests. OkCupid is now 74% male and just 26% female in terms of users, while Hinge, despite being the most gender equal out of all the major apps, is still almost 2-to-1 men to womenI mean, why do shoe Umbrella exist? Probably cause someone thought it was a good way to keep your shoes dry, and yet they don't work or give you decent experience if you step in a puddle of water. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 05:10 PM |
| 1 | ONLINE DATING STATS: The figures are in for OkCupid and Hinge, and what a surprise it's more dude fests. OkCupid is now 74% male and just 26% female in terms of users, while Hinge, despite being the most gender equal out of all the major apps, is still almost 2-to-1 men to womenIf you had a penis, I would suggest sticking it in one so you could experience first hand how unpleasant that experience is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 04:55 PM |
| 1 | ONLINE DATING STATS: The figures are in for OkCupid and Hinge, and what a surprise it's more dude fests. OkCupid is now 74% male and just 26% female in terms of users, while Hinge, despite being the most gender equal out of all the major apps, is still almost 2-to-1 men to womenYeah, no. Porn helps as a visual or auditory aid for excitement while our own hand does the work. How is this the same as an actual tool that penetrates you, vibrates in your vagina or on your clit? There are barely any decent sex toys for men that gives us remotely the same feeling of penetrating a woman. And I would guess a dildo or vibrator is not the same thing either But there are just fewer options for us and I was trying to make an ironic remark regarding that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 04:53 PM |
| 5 | ONLINE DATING STATS: The figures are in for OkCupid and Hinge, and what a surprise it's more dude fests. OkCupid is now 74% male and just 26% female in terms of users, while Hinge, despite being the most gender equal out of all the major apps, is still almost 2-to-1 men to womenWhen the day comes someone actually comes up with decent sex toys for guys like woman had dildo's, vibrators etc for decades. This whole online dating shitshow will be gone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 04:36 PM |
| 2 | "Tim Cook: 'No good excuse' for lack of women in tech". How about, for example, more females than males being more interested in other subject areas (and fields of employment). These sorts of statements can lead to males being put at a disadvantage/being discriminated against/more help for females.Have been working in tech as a consultant for over 20 years in all sort of industries. What I observed is that in companies that are actually doing something good (I worked for a client in healthcare building new cancer radiation machines that harm the patient less) there is always a significant higher amount of woman working as data Scientist, coders, scrum master, etc. In industries that are less people oriented or less "doing good", I always see a lot less woman My general take is that woman … | /r/MensRights | 28/09/22 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Why all the anger when a guy who is probably promiscuous doesn’t want to date a woman who is the same?These are most of the time not the same women. The ones complaining being played or having a guy with a lot of options not commit are mostly different type of people than the ones that are having multiple guys at the same time. I do think the interesting question is why are the people with the same preference not being matched? I mean, I am a monogamous single woman dating kind of guy who wants to slowly find out if there is more. I know there are women out their that share that mindset. I just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 04:56 PM |
| 2 | My gf's brother married a Ukrainian Au Pair and between him and his parents, they have spent well in excess of 200k on her. Now that they've gotten in deep her true colors are coming out, to make a long story short her husband is her servant and he has to tiptoe around her.Suken cost fallacy applied to marriage 😬 The number can only grow so the sooner he cuts, the better. But i am guessing he is not ready yet | /r/MensRights | 27/09/22 06:29 AM |
| 2 | Does anyone else get random DMs from people on this board?Yes. I joined a couple of new subs recently and became more active. So I cannot pinpoint it to this sub, but this week alone 4 newly created profiles dm'ed me | /r/Divorce_Men | 26/09/22 06:22 PM |
| 2 | Nearly broken, looking for advice.I can only speak for myself. Not going to lie. It gets kind of lonely at times, but that is still a lof better than suffering abuse (cause you are not just being used man, your description tells me she is emotionally abussive). I feel a lot better about myself and therapy and self development has improved my view on life drastically.(I would highly recommend therapy coming out of such a relationship and just in general. I think it benefits everyone at some point in your life) Dating is a bit har… | /r/Divorce_Men | 25/09/22 01:30 PM |
| 17 | Nearly broken, looking for advice.You don't have kids? Divorce her. She is trying to babytrap you by blackmailing you no less with going into couples therapy. That alone would be enough grounds to file for me personally. A relationship should not make you feel like you want to die, it should make your life a bit better than being single. This is clearly not the case so it is time to take care of yourself mate. Get away from her. Divorce her and start healing and being happy again | /r/Divorce_Men | 25/09/22 01:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you care whether or not a man has been “run through”?I became sexually active at 16, I am now 41 and have been in long term relationships most of life. That means I had 9125 days since I became sexually active. When in a couple, a couple of times a week is not that weird. During some phases even a couple of times a day (wanting to get pregnant, honeymoon phase, etc).. it is not a brag, just how things are and giving an example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 08:19 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: Do you care whether or not a man has been “run through”?Meh..that is not entirly true, I am 6'3 and I didn't do shit to do that..that is DNA. I am not ugly. I didn't do shit to do that. I come from a not so happy home yet have worked hard through therapy to be a kind human being, now that is something I am proud of and do feel I have played a part In 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you care whether or not a man has been “run through”?What kind of nonsense is this? This is the modern dating hookup culture bullshit. I always had long relationships and by the age of 38 I had about 6 partners. But I cannot count the mount of sex I had. It is in the multiple thousands and it was consistent cause I was in a relationship with a partner. All of these long term relationships also thaught me a lot more than the few hookups I had. If a woman values that you slept with a lot of guys, that is fine. Just be very aware ln which parameters … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/22 08:58 PM |
| 30 | Q4W: Do you care whether or not a man has been “run through”?Out of curiosity as a 41yo male? why is 2 people at the same level learning and figuring it out together a bad idea to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/22 08:47 PM |
| 1 | A Pew Research Center study shows that 62% of single women in the U.S. are not open to casual dating or a committed relationship, compared to 39% of single menI honestly am speechless. The number only increases when it is a DIFFERENT partner, not every time they have sex so you math makes no sense.AT ALL. You are correlating 2 different numbers with each other. Amount of people and partners and amount of sex A man that only had sex with his wife 2000 times still only had 1 partner 🤷♂️ these 2 things have nothing to do with eachother. You are correct that that I botched up in my previous example average would have been the same for men and women, but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/22 08:14 PM |
| 1 | A Pew Research Center study shows that 62% of single women in the U.S. are not open to casual dating or a committed relationship, compared to 39% of single menAre you always this nice calling people names? If you would have read properly, you would have see I was talking about average amount of partners most people had. Not how many time men and women have sex. So yes, it does matter, cause it is not a one one link. 1 guy can have sex with 100 woman. The average of woman would have had sex with 1 partner.if the rest of the 100 guys have sex with zero, the average of men has sex with 0,1 person yet this one guy, would have slept with them all. Yet the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/22 07:08 PM |
| 1 | A Pew Research Center study shows that 62% of single women in the U.S. are not open to casual dating or a committed relationship, compared to 39% of single menWe are talking about averages, but i can easily imagine that a lot of woman have a very low body count, especially on a global level. Also, woman rule the sex work industry and I can imagine a percentage of woman have numbers that are of the charts compared to men or most other woman. So looking at the average, if this 1 (example) is fucking 2000 or more times as much people as the 99, the will not move the average that much. With guys, I think the numbers will be lower, but the amount of men th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/22 06:18 PM |
| 1 | A Pew Research Center study shows that 62% of single women in the U.S. are not open to casual dating or a committed relationship, compared to 39% of single menDepends on how they make up the statistics. Do they count single people or everyone? A player seducing a married person, does that count too? The math does more ore less check out (margins) once you go to the really promiscuous crowd with body counts in the hundreds or even thousands. These are just a really small percentage of the population, but with that large difference, it is enough to actually screw with the averages. And lastly: I could imagine some chads being actually dumb enough to lie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/22 05:55 PM |
| 2 | A Pew Research Center study shows that 62% of single women in the U.S. are not open to casual dating or a committed relationship, compared to 39% of single menI'm failing to see the link between you comment, getting stigma for failed relationships and stripclubs back to my comment or the original post. Could you elaborate what you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/22 12:47 PM |
| 5 | A Pew Research Center study shows that 62% of single women in the U.S. are not open to casual dating or a committed relationship, compared to 39% of single menNah, you have a small very promiscuous group that skews the numbers. Imagine a sexworker answering studies.or someone who just fucked around (which is especially easier for women than men) Everyone has an average of 4 partners, they come in with double or triple digits. Chads and hoes are screwing the numbers imho, and despite woman have it easier, the AVG is higher for men. This makes me think there is a percentage of players working really fucking and screwing whenever they can (,manipulated o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 11:37 PM |
| 3 | A Pew Research Center study shows that 62% of single women in the U.S. are not open to casual dating or a committed relationship, compared to 39% of single menNah, men straight or gay will have a higher count cause they will mostly accept any opportunity. Woman will truly have the higher count (if they want) cause they just have to accept one of the.mzny suitors if they like em.just most of them are smarter than men not to, and men will. Why do you think we have memes about don't stick you dick in crazy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 11:30 PM |
| 2 | A Pew Research Center study shows that 62% of single women in the U.S. are not open to casual dating or a committed relationship, compared to 39% of single menMy question would be: define single? Are the not single woman with someone who might call themselves single when asked? Relationship boundaries these days are entirely fucked up. Questions about when going exclusive, dating 4-6 people a week, people being in situationships without realizing it. So yeah, with all these fluid blanket statements, I am taking these studies with a kilo of Salt. In my 40ies after a divorce I know several couples where both parties would give a different answer to the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Without qualifications, which problems do you sympathize with men for in dating that women contribute to?That is really the worst rejection to be honest. Fake flirting followed up with something they want from you or want you to do.... Most guys don't get chatted up and it makes us feel great, seen and happy... And then the question to check their computer comes. Or the DIY chore they can't do, or.. (fill in)... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 08:03 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Without qualifications, which problems do you sympathize with men for in dating that women contribute to?"I wish a girl could try that lol"... ah.. probably cause you are the abuser, not the victim. That line gives me the creeps as a guy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 01:43 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Without qualifications, which problems do you sympathize with men for in dating that women contribute to?Totally jealous I couldn't keep my cool like you and went full rant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 01:38 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Without qualifications, which problems do you sympathize with men for in dating that women contribute to?Dude, as someone who was married for 13 years to an emotionally abusive woman: They don't punch you in the face on the third date. They manipulate, they groom, and slowly raise the temperature without you noticing. They pretend to be nice and all of a sudden, you are at boiling point and you never saw it coming. Frankly, your comments are offensive, ignorant, and hurtful, and the reason why DV people feel ashamed and unsafe to talk about it. If you don't know what you are talking about, don't ta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Without qualifications, which problems do you sympathize with men for in dating that women contribute to?I think you are seriously uneducated in how this comes to be. Most people in abusive relationships come out of abusive households where they have seen this stuff as normality. They don't even know it is abusive.They think it is normal. Something I recently personally had happen in my life: The girlfriend of my daughter(10 at the time) asked her if she was getting hit too. When my daughter said no, she reacted: how can that be? My stepdad hits me, my siblings and mom all the time, and when I aske… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 01:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Without qualifications, which problems do you sympathize with men for in dating that women contribute to?Ah yes.. "It is their own fault". This is why we don't talk about this stuff ladies and gentlemen. We can't even feel safe expressing this to our male friends. Why would we believe to be taken seriously by a police officer? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 01:27 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: Without qualifications, which problems do you sympathize with men for in dating that women contribute to?I also think a lot of guys should have to be thaught better to recognize physical and emotional abuse. I have friends who laughingly tell me stories I cringe on cause it is 101 emotional abuse, neglect, gaslighting etc and when I try to explain, they won't believe me cause it is so normalized by society and tv. Absolutely unacceptable behaviour from girlfriends and wives that is just joked about and shrugged of * Oh, she hasn't spoken a word to me for 5 days * She smacks me over the head when I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 01:24 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Without qualifications, which problems do you sympathize with men for in dating that women contribute to?So true.. Nobody in their 40ies comes without baggage, and I had my hopes up to find a woman that was aware of her own and was working on it. To grow together with. But it seems that a lot of woman on dating apps never did any healing and/or work on themselves and just jumped from one relationship to another, adding to the trauma pile instead instead :-| | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.She glowing from all the traffic that has gone by. Shiny marble from the middle aged pretty and slick and majestic, but also slippery as fuck from all the traffic that had gone by I would pass. But hey, you do you and all they guys that have gone before ✌️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.Bruh, I make 130k before taxes and I am like 0,5% in my European country. Got two hernia's 3 months ago and had to have an MRI , physio (x 17) and stuff like that. Several doctor and specialist visits. I think my personal cost is around 180 euro/dollar. Total? Could be less honestly. We see 400k and compare it to way lower cause it just isn't a thing here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 08:06 PM |
| 2 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.Totally agree,. But in all honesty, with the numbers being as they are. 10% of guys are being able to do this behaviour, and 80% of woman can do it. That is why we are fighting tooth to nail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 08:00 PM |
| 4 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.Why do you think this body count convo comes up so often? I am a very successful woman who had 4 relationships over the past 20 years Vs, I am an alpha bitch and I fucked over 300 dudes in the past 20 years. That last one has mindset i would not touch with a ten foot pole to marry and get serious with. Oh now she wants to be serious? What if she changed her mind? What if she is lying? What if whatever. She clearly has her way of decision making not being compatible with mine and I will never eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.Honestly, both should do the work. I understand the us is different,. But both a male and a women with many credentials but "nobody" stuck by the time you are 40? I don't care about your gender. Get therapy. Not putting effort in human connection? Only focused on career? Only casual stuff? Get yourself sorted out for god sake and don't pretend this is queen/king behaviour. You were not capable of attracting or keeping a partner that fitted you. And you are the common denominator. It doesn't matt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 07:52 PM |
| 3 | What is the worst thing about being a man?> I care about men far more than any man here ever will. Your last line hits home hard... A lot of us men are saying they don't feel cared for and lonely, but what are they doing to support other men? We need to help each other out with mental health and emotional challenges way more than we are doing today | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 02:26 PM |
| 10 | What is the worst thing about being a man?I believe a lot of women don't give it a second taught that those asshole guys they run into? Yeah.. we run into them too I think a lot more guys are looking at women to get emotional support than would like to admit it. Mainly because they don't feel safe to do it with a lot of their friends. I have a couple of good friends, but very few or maybe even zero that can emphatically listen without offering a solution I also believe we, as men, should be trained in vulnerability. Stop normalising "ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 02:16 PM |
| 1 | What is the worst thing about being a man?Sad but true :( https://www.psypost.org/2022/09/boys-and-men-experience-more-social-isolation-than-girls-and-women-study-finds-63947 Edit: But of a clickbait title and sad to see they make it a contest between genders again though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 01:58 PM |
| 0 | CMV: I don't think men are "bad at communicating" like we women often tell each other. I think this stereotype is false and men are fantastic communicators... when they want to be. I think most men, however, are bad at pretending to care about things they don't.I didn't put a gender on it. And I don't believe it has to do with feminine. Especially not in c-level where this trait will do you little to no good. It has to do with emotional stress ability and capacity imho | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 05:29 AM |
| 0 | CMV: I don't think men are "bad at communicating" like we women often tell each other. I think this stereotype is false and men are fantastic communicators... when they want to be. I think most men, however, are bad at pretending to care about things they don't.You are actually giving the solution yoursellf. Check the amount of cluster B personalities in c-levels Vs general population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 12:02 AM |
| 3 | CMV: I don't think men are "bad at communicating" like we women often tell each other. I think this stereotype is false and men are fantastic communicators... when they want to be. I think most men, however, are bad at pretending to care about things they don't.If everyone else is playing sounds like you are in a toxic as fuck environment.. I manage large teams and will not put up with this kind of shit to be honest. Yes, sometimes you should play the game, sometimes you just say grow the fuck up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/22 11:59 PM |
| 2 | CMV: I don't think men are "bad at communicating" like we women often tell each other. I think this stereotype is false and men are fantastic communicators... when they want to be. I think most men, however, are bad at pretending to care about things they don't.That is interesting honestly. What do you consider dealbreakers? Cause as a really sexist example: if my partner would be into knitting and be enthousiast, i would smile and knod, but that is about it.. astrology? Hell no. That is a values thing. (To me) she believes in fanatasy thinking and our future/relationship based on where the stars are in our skies? That shit will be a deal-breaker | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/22 11:52 PM |
| 1 | If you're struggling to date, you are NOT good lookingOr, as a guy, I get many likes but I rarely swipe right because of no profile and/or a fucking dumpster fire in their bio. Still struggling to date. Ain't got nothing to do with looks (I am doing ok at 41, definitely not wauw) or social skills (I convince people to accept transformation in their job and life for a living, so I like to believe I have empathy and social skills) Online dating is just a shitshow beginning to end | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/22 04:42 PM |
| -2 | Question 4 Women: What is the appeal of toxic male fictional characters and adult women and teenage girls?Cause most woman are dependent financially. European so different culture,. But even then I would be looking at 0,9% and trying to avoid the 20% with a big mouth who secretly want to be in my living room cause I can still affort to heat it. And on average woman: oh yeah. Honestly, woman get so much attention thiough the internet that average acts like hot, and hot created lonleyfans making themselves almost undateable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/22 10:18 PM |
| 3 | When women say they want a man to show more emotion, what they are really asking for is healthier emotional communicationSo . Sample size of one? Average woman means most woman I encounter, meaning also great female friend that don't get it cause they grew up differently or had different experiences I al not gonna loose a friend (and my kids best friend mother) over this. Do I feel understood? No, do I feel supported? Somewhat but more in the no area. And I can see how she feels the same. Just don't make it your narrative. Especially when older. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/22 09:52 PM |
| 8 | When women say they want a man to show more emotion, what they are really asking for is healthier emotional communicationHave you fucking tried communicating your emotional needs to an average woman? They don't get it..I can perfectly communicate my emotional experiences and needs after years of therapy. They just be like "I need a really man"..they have their own trauma and cannot link it to ours. (Ironically enough, the abuse might just have been them same person) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/22 09:39 PM |
| 1 | When women say they want a man to show more emotion, what they are really asking for is healthier emotional communicationIn my experience, they are asking to listen more to them but for the love of God don't talk about your own or try to get support. A lot of us understand what you women are saying, even understand the trauma that caused it, but don't get why you don't own, work through it and move to the next level My experience anyway | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/22 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Women tell men to stick to their league, but women are attracted to the type of men - those out of their leagueCause lacking pussy I guess? Balance is key in all aspects. A lot of guys treat it as a game,which it isn't for a lot of woman. Learn to balance guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 08:42 PM |
| 1 | What kind of man pays Rich Cooper $1,000 an hour for 'coaching'?Mainly: men who are too proud of tll scared to spend a lot less of that amount and go to therapy to find out the truth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Women tell men to stick to their league, but women are attracted to the type of men - those out of their leagueLike, re-read my previous comment ma'am I don't give a rat's ass | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 08:23 PM |
| 2 | Women tell men to stick to their league, but women are attracted to the type of men - those out of their leagueOh yeah, sure. Absolutely. You do you. Just was making a statement about this Premium pussy being used and manipulated by chads and put back on the streets If that works for you, by all means bear the cross | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 07:07 PM |
| 4 | Men need to stop justifying why they don't want to date women with high body countsI guess it is a cultural difference. Here in Europe going after top earners almost always is just that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 06:25 PM |
| 2 | Men need to stop justifying why they don't want to date women with high body countsI am very aware of that, which is why I made the exaggeration. Each time this discussion comes up the "my body my choice" crowd comes out of the woods with numbers of 20, 30, 50 a 100 and calling that normal cause everyone' in their environment (probably true as they all seem to be fucking as bunnies) My point is most guys are not looking for a virgin in my part of the world and a hookup etc as long as it is not your weeklt hobby, all is fine and understandable. 40 to 50 guys when you are barely… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 06:16 PM |
| 7 | Men need to stop justifying why they don't want to date women with high body countsAnd you sample size of 1 means this is a universal truth now? Does this happen? Sure. I had girls do a 180 in the other direction when they saw my car or found out what job I do (which signals high income) That doesn't mean the universal truth is all women are golddiggers And as someone who did a startup, I can assure you that amount of gets reduced to zero in the periode where you cannot actually pull it out or do something with it. If you have 500k startup that you can't sell and doesn't pay y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 06:13 PM |
| 2 | Men need to stop justifying why they don't want to date women with high body countsThere is a difference between a hookup and girls having 100+ body count at 23 or just causally fucking anyone they like Same for guys btw. I don't follow the whole guys fucking around is good, women is bad. I think it says a lot about a person in general about their need for validation and being liked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop justifying why they don't want to date women with high body countsBeing broke is a different thing and depends on a lot of factors. Wanting a handsome 6'3 guy or taller is basically only looking at traits the other person has little to no impact on which might make sense from an evolutionary Biology mating point of view, but is pretty short horizon The broke guy could have invested his life savings into his startup and be a millionaire in 5 years I am physically attracted to hot woman too, but if she makes life decisions on tarot cards for example, there is ze… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop justifying why they don't want to date women with high body countsThe majority of men get their sex from their partner. Your statement is only applicable to the chads on dating apps | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 05:56 PM |
| 7 | Men need to stop justifying why they don't want to date women with high body countsAll studies show that less than 20 percent of people slepts with 10+ people and a majority of Men and Women would prefer a partner with a body count within the norm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 05:54 PM |
| 1 | Women tell men to stick to their league, but women are attracted to the type of men - those out of their leagueYeah, go check the dating advice subs to see what these hot pieces of ass do to eachtoher. At some point, they knock their heads into the wall hard enough to realize physical attractiveness doesn't mean shit in terms of LTR or quality of life with a partner. It is like 10% at most I honestly don't understand why a gender neutral hot/crazy scale is not the in the basic dating measuring toolbox | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 05:52 PM |
| 0 | Women tell men to stick to their league, but women are attracted to the type of men - those out of their leagueProblem is they think a hot body alone will get them premium dick and all they get is chads spending more time on their looks than a career or being a decent partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 05:48 PM |
| 13 | Women tell men to stick to their league, but women are attracted to the type of men - those out of their leagueFunny how all of these things are superficial and none of them matter in a successful long term relationship. A 6'3 wife beater. And they focus on the 6'3. They are literally telling you they can't make sensible choices. What else do you need to know about a potential life partner? Also: pretty convinced this is just a thing for a part of society. And they are just more visible because of these silly demands and social media | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 05:45 PM |
| 3 | Why aren't friendships required (or at the very least encouraged) before ALSO entering a relationship?Sample size of 1. There are 2 types of woman I want to fuck; 1) someone I have sexual attraction with and nothing else has build yet. I might want more but she will have to put in some effort to show me she is interested and interesting to me. 2) I meet someone through friends or friendship and at some point, I crush on her and want more than just friends (and thus also sex) so I ask her out on a date The second has my preference hands down but this while online dating thing and hookup culture..… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/22 07:49 PM |
| 3 | Please explain this behavior - meanness after sexYeah, probably this tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/22 09:21 AM |
| 1 | Age Gap RelationshipsReally late to the party, but a 20+ guy dating a teen or early twenties "girl" still has a lot of growing to do.mature for you, As for his age peers. 10/10 wouldn't and couldn't date 3 to 5 years out of my age in both directions. And with couldn't, I lean the decision mine | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 10:18 PM |
| 5 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedOh yeah, absolutely. It didn't fit to make the joke, but guys going after daddy issue girls have a whole own list of issues Sad dynamic really | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 04:53 PM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Early 40ies too. I am mostly not playing anymore. I just want peace and will only date a woman who adds peace, not substract. Also not so much on the falling in love falling. I used to find partners within friends groups and slowly get attracted to them over time. So infatuation and love bombing romance I would always avoid. Sexual attraction, now that is another thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 04:15 PM |
| 6 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedTell me someone is dating woman with daddy issues without telling me he is dating daddy issues women 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 04:05 PM |
| 14 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedWhen someone says all woman/men, I automatically assume they are talking with the men/women they encounter in their bubble of the planet and not really the entire human race | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 04:02 PM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?? What texts and what doesn't make sense? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 08:27 AM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?I know. Woman do this too. It is just shitty behaviour to begin with. As I said: communication. When I get the faintest hint of ambiguity, I know it is sex only and make a decision wether I want to or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 07:59 AM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?My revenge fantasy is finding a nice woman to start a cozy blendid family with her, so I can show my kids my ex wife jumping from one guy to the next while maintaining one older guy as a backup is not the only way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 07:07 AM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?I beg to disagree. These guys actually show these woman what it would be like to be in a relationship with them. But they have already decided that these woman are not giving the signal that they are worthy to commit. It is unfortunate that the link I wanted to use has been deleted. But a lot of us are ready to commit. But woman are holding out to check if they can do better and pretty valueable guys just quit meanwhile and start "using" woman cause they have been used themselves. You are with a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 01:18 AM |
| 3 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Being completely honey: if I wasn't a bit older and having had offline experience, I would have been on incel forums. It is because I believe it is because i come from a pre onliline era that I (and a lot of guys my age) can put this aside and Cary on. Young guys, I feel for you cause you are being played from all sides and I can understand how this puts you down Edit: spelling | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 01:10 AM |
| 2 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?After 4 years of dating after marriat, I would say yes. They get all sorts of labels. But yeah, I would say men deal with the rejection more and move on. We also don't shrug it off. Each time this happens, a dude gets destroyed and often an incel gets created but hey, more to complain about 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 01:05 AM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Ok, I which way and why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 12:59 AM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?That is just it. Your brother is not wrong. But re-read your own comment. If you want sex, you go get it, when a guy wants it, there is 30-60 days rule.There is mostly a bunch of rules, There is a price. And guys will try to skip that rule. We get horny too ;-) So they will lie and deceive to get layed. And there are women who will no understand that and feel violated (which to some extend, they were) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 12:57 AM |
| 2 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?I think the change is more in men to be honest When I was a teen, either we both decided to have sex, or not. Then it became a bit more tricky but the situation was clear. I am new to you, it is one night. We have been talking for weeks/months and this is a thing and I like you. these days.. swiping.. well.. maybe I am an old , but my goals is clear in my bio | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 08:51 PM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?To me, the biggest discussion around sex isn't around sex, it is about communication. So that is why I am so confused. I lived in a small town and I am 99,5% sure none of my hookups or one-nights were confused or surprised. In OLD, we just need to talk better/more | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 08:47 PM |
| 2 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Exactly. I had sex on dates 1, 2, 3, and X and they just want sex? Abusers.... maybe have an actual conversation. I had first-date sex which I dated for 2 years (did have very long online conversations and calls up front) and had 5th date sex which was just a one-night stand. Nobody complained. cause we were BOTH ok with it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 08:06 PM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Indeed, that is part of my point. Men get put in the friend-zoned for not being enough and get frustrated but mostly move on and work on themselves Women get put in the sex-zoned for not being relationship material and start hating men. I'll admit to having put women in the Sex zone cause they are fun and all of that, but I would not have them in my life or near my kids cause they basically haven't evolved since their early twenties and they think being hot is all they have to be. And in part th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 07:56 PM |
| 3 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?You know nothing, localmicrodosechamp | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 07:47 PM |
| 4 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?nah, I am doubling down on being a responsible parent/father raising their kids (cause that is what I signed up for) and being happy to see them and watching them grow/grow up. And I am tripling down on you being a horrible person for thinking/saying that, by the lack of a more mature description | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 07:46 PM |
| 5 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?I personally think women should own up to their own responsibility in having sex and should learn to read toxic people just like men have to do. Sure.. blame men. Avoid your own responsibility and lack of radar... Men are bad, women are victims. Anyway, your comment about my co-parenting tells me you don't have the slightest clue about men other than your own trauma. Good luck! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 07:39 PM |
| 6 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?EXCUSE me? I am a father, being more present than their mother is, raisI ing them and enjoying their company cause I had children consciously (with the wrong person, I will grant you that) and would miss them if I would be in a situation where I would only see them over the weekend or every so often as seems to be standard in the usa. Your comment is heartless and tells me you have zero empathy or understanding of anything outside of your own experience. We are done here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 07:36 PM |
| 7 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?To the same extent as women can't say no to sex before figuring out they will get hurt: yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 07:25 PM |
| 3 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?It means I have my kids full-time every other week (but in reality, I see them 12 out of 14 days cause they come to my home after school, even when it is my ex-wife's week) What it has to do with male loneliness: I still see my kids a lot. i know a lot of guys don't and If I read the stories here about being divorced and seeing your kids 2 out of 14 days.. holy shit.. yes.. I would feel a lot worse and lonely and I feel bad for men who don't get to see their kids and totally understand they get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 07:23 PM |
| 2 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Yeah, totally get it. If I remove my kids from my profile, my demographics change but I don't do that (anymore) cause they are a big part of my life and identity. Dad all the way and I did the therapy to just be me. But same experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 07:10 PM |
| 3 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Cause she gives it to him. Duh... he told her what he wants, she keeps having sex with him. What did she think? she would change his mind? If she doesn't believe his word, that is on her, not on him He told her what he wanted, she kept going. There is no more clearer way to agree with someone If a gay guy approaches me and I say no, I am not gonna have sex with him. Not "no, not what I am looking for" but have sex anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 07:04 PM |
| 11 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Haha. truth. 41, not too hard on the eyes and have my shit together. Same indeed. I want to create a blended family after my divorce but can only find woman that have never had a serious relationship and still want kids, or single moms with unresolved trauma and a wishlist no person on the planet can ever comply with Or self proclaimed hoes.. many, many hoes. That culture totally blew over from the Us to Europe | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 07:01 PM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Haha.. yeah.. not for guys it isn't ;-) It means hearing about bad dates with other men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 06:54 PM |
| 5 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Honestly, I disagree. I am a 41yo divorced guy with kids. But I have "the friend" who is my age (actually older). He is definitely a looker and is the exceptional "sex-zone" guy and blissfully unaware and not understanding why he can't get a girlfriend. We are all aware he is emotionally detached and high on the narcissistic scale edit: accidental enter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 06:49 PM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?These things are not black and white. Some context: I am a 6'3/192cm 41yo divorced father (50/50 co-parent). I am in shape and I have a good running business. I would like to find a new life partner and generally don't play the field. But hey, once in a while I get hot and bothered and get out there. And most of my friends do the same. And if not horny but "lonely" we go out for a beer ;-) These things are not black and white. Some context: I am a 6'3/192cm 41yo divorced father (50/50 co-parent)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 06:42 PM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Thanks for your elaborate reply! Do I understand correctly that these women, when having sex consider it commitment cause they cannot stand the idea of rejection (for whatever reason: not sexually compatible, not being emotionally available, or whatever red flags a guy catches?) And yes, I have totally been the Jack in your first example (nice throwback btw, loved that show back then) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 06:35 PM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?hahaha. ok. thanks! What I take from this is that there was awareness around it but men got blamed again and women didn't take a look at their own behavior This is exactly what I tried to discuss but I am already noticing there is only a little part of the community that actually wants to accept this reality: a lot of women that want to commit are attracted or attract the wrong type, and the type they want is looking around and having options but can't find what they truly desire either and in b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 06:17 PM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?I agree with u/Fun_Push7168. A lot of men are looking for something serious and experience this ghosting or usage shit. We just get better at filtering these out and either date someone we think seriously off, or someone we would fuck cause we are horny. Except, we have to work a lot harder for it. That is my entire point actually. The difference is that many men shrug and move on and a lot of women seem to turn into men haters because of it. Read the room and you can avoid it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 06:11 PM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?ooohhh. I am actually interested cause back then I was married so totally missed that. I only "rediscovered" dating the last 4 years. If you have the time, very interested to hear more about this "trend"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 06:04 PM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?This post below it just one of the many that has inspired me to write this post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/dating\_advice/comments/xefo2q/28\_f\_men\_only\_see\_me\_as\_good\_for\_sex/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 06:02 PM |
| 4 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?AND women are to be blamed for how women behave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 06:00 PM |
| 3 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?If she wants something serious, why did she have sex with a man without checking if he wanted something serious? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:59 PM |
| 3 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?And you bring up a valuable point. I got back into the dating pool after 13 years of marriage and I was disgusted by the player dating advice BUT there are some solid content creators advisors with good advice out there. Then I went to see what the advice was on the other side.. cause.. well.. cause I am a curious person... My god do women get shit advice from influencers in the dating domain... A lot of women are taking advice from highly toxic other women who don't have a clue or have been in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:58 PM |
| 5 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?That is a serious generalization ;-) Not all men are lonely and a lot of guys have figured it out. I feel bad for the younger guys, but most older guys like me I know are not lonely, they just would like to find someone they want to keep, but can't find it so they "use" their knowledge and yeah.. men that are being turned down, they try to evolve and move on. Woman being sex-zoned say "men are evil" and don't look at their own shit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:50 PM |
| 3 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?What has this got to do with entitlement? I am entitled cause men lie but women don't carry any responsibility in reading body language and scanning for red flags as we men have to do. If we don't read red flags, we pay child support for 18 years. How is a woman not equally responsible to sift out hookup guys? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:46 PM |
| 9 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?By now, I am gonna assume you are a woman? How come we men can figure out how women work but not the other way around? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:42 PM |
| 5 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?What about this is treating women poorly? Men don't talk about it cause woman only want casual sex if they want it. And as long as the woman doesn't ask.. well... (from my ancient perspective, this talk wasn't even required. it was clear from second 1) If a woman doesn't want a casual hookup, she can just figure out if this is casual before having sex. That is my whole point. But no, she goes ahead and has sex, and then the guy treated her poorly? Where is the personal accountability? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:40 PM |
| 8 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Totally agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:37 PM |
| 6 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Have you seen the posts on some subs? Many actually think that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:35 PM |
| 1 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Well, thanks for the echo chamber as I think the same, so at least one other person thinks the same :-) Wish I had an award to give | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:34 PM |
| 4 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Take responsibility for her own behaviour and first have sex, then ask questions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:31 PM |
| 5 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?They both agree to sleep with each other. Women don't have a responsibility to first check if this man wants the same before having sex if they want a relationship? They are both displaying "a behavior" and both have their part of the responsibility in my opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:29 PM |
| 4 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?So why would men be responsible for this solely? Why wouldn't a woman check (and not ask cause people lie) what this guy wants before having sex? Why doesn't a woman just figure out what this man wants before having sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:26 PM |
| 3 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?*frowns deeply* | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:24 PM |
| 3 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Yeah that is not what I meant. Men get friend-zoned and are unhappy about it Women get sex-zoned and are unhappy about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:23 PM |
| 3 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?That is why I am asking the question. I come from the old school, where a one-night stand or hookup, it was clear in the moment on the dancefloor, and I only chased women when I knew them for a while, mostly through friends, and after some time, I was under the impression they were wife material. These days, all of this is mixed and complicated and I think this is what is making dating so difficult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 05:22 PM |
| 4 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?I agree. But I often see a lot of shitty communication around "what this is", and men being frustrated about being friend-zoned, and women being sex-zoned. So interested in that debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 04:39 PM |
| 3 | Why is it most women view low self esteem in a guy a red flag, but most guys view low self esteem as not a deal breaker?Ok, first of all, determine what is low self esteem. Cause it really makes a difference. Lots of Woman call men low self esteem out of their own mindset and their train of thought. Also, none below is a brag or humble brag. Just to make a point. Some context: I am European, am 6'3, make well over 6 figures (which here is a lot) and well, let's say the last 6 is appropriate to the rest of my body. I have rejected several woman in a way that I thought to be gentle, or nice. And in some way some pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 10:55 PM |
| 6 | Men can’t complain that women find them ugly when women spend so much time and money trying to appeal to menHonestly, I think a lot of woman are blissfully unaware that the top 10% they are looking for, has the highest percentage of cluster B and worse DSM-5 disorders and they Trey to cater to their preference. Most men that are actually worth it (but make less money than c-levels cause they are actually decent human beings) are a lot less focused on exterior than they think. They check for balanced personality, communication, emotional availability and stability. Source: lots of scientific studies an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Men can’t complain that women find them ugly when women spend so much time and money trying to appeal to menWoman are wildly mistaken about what men who have been around the block and are not shallow actually want 😅 You have a guy only judging you on your looks? "Girl", thus guy is shallow and will trade you in x years for a newer model. If a man judges you like he would judge a new car. You have already lost. If he looks at you like an asset that he would like in his portfolio. .. that is where you are in the sweet spot. And a smart man doesn't add an asset to it's portfolio just cause it looks good.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men?As penis owner that works this way, I I am wrong and don't know how guys work? Maybe I am the only guy on the planet that works this way. Maybe you just bumped into a bunch of guys that don't work this way. But just blatantly stating someone is wrong because of your experiences with the opposite sex is not much of a debate now is it? Have you considered the common factor in all these relationships that didn't want to commit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 05:41 AM |
| 1 | Women and men who don’t do hookups, where do you hang out?Fair enough, my bad. Got to admit I didn't read the original comment and focus on yours and went into introvert defence mode. You are right,.not approaching at all is a bad idea (although if you can't read the room, it might ve a good idea to follow). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Women and men who don’t do hookups, where do you hang out?Ah yes. Stop being yourself. I am a guy and not a recluse. But honestly, my job is connecting people and I love it and u can be pretty social, but I work in a male dominated industry. Between my kids and work, I have used my social energy by the end of the day and I really don't have a need to go out more. But thanks for calling me a creep for not being an extrovert though ✌️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:23 PM |
| 5 | Women and men who don’t do hookups, where do you hang out?Exactly. So nice and cozy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men?What I meant is: a lot of guys are looking at Wildly different features in woman than most woman seem to think (which is why online dating sucks). Yes. We will commit to a woman who we find attractive, is communicative and into us. And we don't see it as "settling". We see it as a woman who is ready for the long run. Wanna play games and hard to get or be entitled and a queen? Bye bye. Sure you will find a needy guy that will put up with that. That sort of entitlement and drama just doesn't work… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men?And the ones in a relationship or married, are the woman roughly the same level as the guy in terms of income, looks, maturity, intelligence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men?A lot. You can be very high standards and be forever single. Is that person 'crushing it' at relationships? Or maybe someone with unrealistic ideas and failing relationships? No matter how successful they are in other parts of life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men?And are they single or married? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Young, hot (and submissive) women are at a major disadvantage when it comes to finding a LTR compared to older or less attractive womenI think this is the issue. They cannot see the difference anylore between 'i wanna fuck you" and "I think I wanna fuck you forever cause I like you and I find you attractive" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:32 PM |
| 3 | Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men?You really don't get men if that is your doubt. A lot of men (and I will leave in the middle if it is healthy or not) are willing to commit to a woman who puts in an effort to understand us. Literally. Men will devote their life to a woman who makes an effort and accept us with all our flaws. Would you do the same? And be honest with your flaws? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:20 PM |
| 2 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?That is the exact point.Men and woman are no the same,yet all points are equally valid. Find your counter part instead of whaling other thinking people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Sexual ignorance is better for long-term partnershipsThey can find those woman, they just can't match them or get them to fuck with them. Newsflash boys: don't invest time in those hit profiles on tinder. They are a waste of your time and only want to fuck hot brainless chads. And trying to turb yourself into one is borderline or entirely self harm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 08:28 PM |
| 3 | Would you prefer to have a single monogamous sexual relationship for your entire life with somebody you loved but only found moderately attractive. Or would be prefer to have an endless supply of causal sex with people you found extremely attractive but never formed an emotional bound with?Honestly, casual sex is just not my thing. Having casual sex costs me more energy to keep my commitment out of it than me putting energy in a relationship. And sure, in a relationship you spend energy to support your partner, even at times it may be an inconvenience. The good part is they do it too if they are a good partner. That for me is actually a benefit of being in a relationship. Commitment does not cost me energy. Having to attract people to have casual sex with actually does | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:31 PM |
| 2 | Would you prefer to have a single monogamous sexual relationship for your entire life with somebody you loved but only found moderately attractive. Or would be prefer to have an endless supply of causal sex with people you found extremely attractive but never formed an emotional bound with?Uhm... Yeah ... Any guy not following your narrative must be lying. Sure dude... I am lying. Whatever | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:27 PM |
| 2 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?Yep. I think so too. All these hoes on lonleyfans, nsfw subreddits and porn etc, make these men think this is the norm while it is actually a very small percentage | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:26 PM |
| 2 | Sexual ignorance is better for long-term partnershipsSorry, and I have no idea how to not make this sound douchy, but I had a 13 year fake marriage with someone, including 2 kids who told me; well, you are a good guy and you had a big dick so I settled for you. Writing this sounds cringe as fuck. But that was my marriage apparently. There are absolutely woman who will do this cause at that time, they don't know any better what to do with themselves and when they do, they uo and leave | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:58 AM |
| 5 | Would you prefer to have a single monogamous sexual relationship for your entire life with somebody you loved but only found moderately attractive. Or would be prefer to have an endless supply of causal sex with people you found extremely attractive but never formed an emotional bound with?I don't even understand what that means. Medium attraction partner? Goals post?!virtue signal? Am k reading correctly that will settle for a a less than hot babe as long as she is a good partner in life? Cause then yes' I will take a medium attraction partner that actually knows herself and lives the funny quiet life with me any day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:49 AM |
| 5 | Would you prefer to have a single monogamous sexual relationship for your entire life with somebody you loved but only found moderately attractive. Or would be prefer to have an endless supply of causal sex with people you found extremely attractive but never formed an emotional bound with?That is some serious projection there brother. I am not into casual sex at all..sure, I have done it, and will continute to..but it does not satisfy me. It is a means to and and to me. And fine for the people who it satisfies, but it ain't me and a lot of us. Too much energy to spend regularly. Emotional connection wins any time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:39 AM |
| 2 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?Sure, we are saying the same thing. Not every student that goes to a party has sex with every perdon there like porn would have us believe. A lot just goed to the part, has fun, and goes home gasp. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Modern day women have absolutely zero accountability whatsoeverWhat is accountability really, and are you holding people accountable in a healthy way? Screaming on Reddit is not holding people accountable btw. Swiping right in the hot chick on tinder and not getting a response is not making people accountable. Living it and doing it is suffering. Tell your thirsty brothers to swipe right ln the bikni oy pics woman cause you are 1/100000000/. Stop supporting the behaviour that is bothering you. I mean. No hate, but matching with the hot chick thah you know w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 09:34 PM |
| 2 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?I disagree with you on that part. I am a man, my preference is longer term relationships and lower body count and there are plenty of woman out there for me to match with. Not every guy wants to constantly fuck the hottest piece of ass out there. A lot of us want an intimate relationship in which we can be ourselves. The name calling is sad, but imho is a bunch of insecurity on both sides and a very immature way of dealing with it. I would reject a high body count woman, but would never say that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 05:34 PM |
| 2 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?this is a very small percentage of woman Maybe true. My point revolves around the fact this is an unverifiable statistic. Nobody knows the truth, sometimes not even the woman (cos she didn't keep count). Even if she didn't keep count, she has a ballpark figure. And the difference between low count and high is often big. We are not talking about did you sleep with 5 or 6, but 5 or 50. So this argument sounds like bs to me. The promiscuous ones are the loud and proud and are much more visually pre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 05:23 PM |
| 1 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?This is really such a non debate in my opinion. Everyone, everywhere, always. This not how it is. I believe the following: There are people who prefer to explore their sexuality with their partner and they have a lower body count. Studies also show this is the predominant situation. There are people who prefer to explore their sexuality with many different people for many different experiences. They have a higher body count. This is a minority which doesn't put any judgement on it. It is just le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 04:48 PM |
| 5 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?I think it is not an obsession, but a misinterpretation. They want to date a hot party girl that didn't fuck around. It's like wanting a fish that hasn't been in the water. I mean... You want a low body count person, go date someone who does not have the need to be promiscuous and has had longer relationships in their past and explored their sexuality with their partner. You want to explore your sexuality with many people? Also valid. Just stay out of eachothers hairs and both do your thing. To … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 04:44 PM |
| 6 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?I think the problem is the party girls who are promiscuous are Omni present on social media shooting it from the rooftops making it seam that all college girls are like that. Also porn often depicts this stuff. In truth a lot of college people are not fucking a new person every x weeks. Most of them are not actually. So I would advice the guys that are constantly meeting girls with high body counts to go and find a different room. You want to find 1 lower count person? Don't date be thirsty for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 04:39 PM |
| 3 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?There are woman have multiple a day or high numbers, but this is a very small percentage of woman. And there are virgins or 1 to a couple before the found their partner. This is the majority. The promiscuous ones are the loud and proud and are much more visually present but in fact the silent majority just finds a partner an Don't have the need to have many partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 04:34 PM |
| 0 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellYeah, no. We have a different way of thinking. Or I have I have a different way of thinking. But honestly, no matter how physically attractive someone is. They just won the DNA lottery. They did absolutely nothing to achieve that and while I will probably think they are sexy, it doesn't mean I find them interesting and want to spend my life with them. I'm also in the least intimidated by them because why? Humans, mortal. Also, I have worked retail and my mom's store since like eight. Hot, not ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 11:16 PM |
| – | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellMen being intimidated by woman is not really a thing. It is something woman tell themselves and take pride in, but really, 99% it is men seeing red flags, avoiding conflict cause there is zero reason to have it, and remove themselves from the situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 07:21 PM |
| 13 | What is your opinion on men who will not marry women whose parents are divorced?That they are not very reflective. A good divorce is a much beter learning experience than a bad disfunctional family that stayed together. Or maybe that is what they want, someone who will stay no matter how shitty they treat them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 12:46 PM |
| 2 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellI think each experience is unique and depending on the situation, people and environment will have a serious different outcome. That being said, many can get through and grow out of it, but self awareness seems to be a big problem. After countless therapy sessions and reading, I see many people around me and in the dating pool for example who are blissfully unaware of how their upbringing affected them and are repeating the pattern I don't remember the scene, but your description does sound accu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 06:40 AM |
| 5 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellI am European. I see Ukraine victims, some of which i have worked with, sufferint to defend their Country.i actually know Software developer that went from one day developing software for me, the next day shooting Russians. So yeah. I would bounce this back to: watch actual news Same goes for Africa. People choose stuff cause they don't know any better and you honestly sound incredibly ignorant saying that and being in a bubble of your own reality. You shoudn try stepping out some time. You woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 08:52 PM |
| 2 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellThanks! Not gonna lie, it was. But also I am happy to have come.out of the other side and know that my kids deserve better so yeah. But thah is how, from my point of view, fuck up their kids (and no ignoring dad, he played his passive role in it). But we are doing pretty good so.. cheers to stopping generational shit 🤷♂️ I saw you are from Czech so I can imagine things are not easy there either. Being old enough to have witnessed the czech-slovakijka (is this right?) War. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 08:43 PM |
| 7 | American women are some of the most overrated women on the planet.There is wild difference between being an actress and being a poorly dressed 40 pounds heavier person. You CAN aim between. This just sounds like I am depressed and don't care anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 08:30 PM |
| 1 | American women are some of the most overrated women on the planet.Aka, I don't have standards so i adhere to others and they are wearing flipflops, cargo shorts and a tank top.😅 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 08:28 PM |
| 5 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellI am notz black/white kind of guy. Doing the best we ever have doesn't mean we are doing great. Get out of your privellaged environment. Travel to africa, asia, and so many other places. Yeah, some of us are doing great, many are still having a shitty experience and more people will not help it. Grab a science book some time and how many people we can support comfortably with our natural resources. I live in Europe and a lot of people are facing z cold winter this year cause of the energy crisis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 07:33 PM |
| 4 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellAre we on the same planet? Cause we definitely ain't allright. Maybe broaden your view a bit. Child labour " Sex trafficking Millions dying from hunger or poverty We "ain't doing allright" and haven't been allright for while | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:40 PM |
| 4 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellAnd it is only worsened by their deeply ingrained poor believes about what love should look/feel like | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:35 PM |
| 2 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellFrom what I read here: a lot of woman have no clue what actually attracts the men they want, so they mimic behaviour and stuff they hear from others, female writers or these days online stuff. Take advice from self proclaimed experts and couldn't identify their guy if he stepped on her foot cause they have been brainwashed by cretins who don't know either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:33 PM |
| 2 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellOh man, different type of experience but just about as bad. No kid should experience that kind of pressure at that age. Mom wasn't overbearing here, just not often present but when she was, oh boy, did she had stuff to say about how I should go about woman. I got a bit of both (matriarch and man of the house), the very light version.I feel lucky that they were not often present so I could just read and also get a bit of outside perspective which triggered me in time to get professional help and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:21 PM |
| 3 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellMy last girlfriend, 3 years ago, relationship of a year and kids introduced and all, was 42 at the time and couldn't commit and we had a rather weird breakup. She was also hot AF and intelligent (female airline pilot) 3 weeks later I reach out for closure cause things were rather emotional during the breakup. She agrees and we go for drinks where she glowingly proud tells me she fucked 28yo (those words) . She was so proud about it. I am pretty sure it never crossed her mind that any guy that ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:11 PM |
| 10 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hell41m divorcee with 2 kids 50/50. I see a lot of woman "post wall". I do think many of them are very mistaken about how is life is like at this age. Most of the catches have already been taken and the dating pool they are in are mostly Guys that can't commit or guys that have been through some shit (well hello there nocturnal coder). And I would touch a woman at that age without having had a serious relationship or kids with a ten foot pole unless they can show me a letter from a therapist they wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:04 PM |
| 3 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellI really disagree. Read my above comment. There are many shades in between serial killers and gang bangers. Nice guys are often a product of mom. Lonely guys not being able to talk with girls are often a product of mom. Read my above comment. My dad was not abscent, but he enabled her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 05:52 PM |
| 2 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellFormer mommy issues guy here (and not the mom is the best in the world kind). My mother is the least emotionally mature woman I have encountered up until today (up close)and my father enabled her. As an only child, she was also my number one source on how to treat woman and how to behave as a man. She molded me into her childish, twisted romanticised view of a man that would put up with anything from woman cause that is "respect". Took me 13 years in an abussive relationship and a heck of a lot … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 05:50 PM |
| 3 | What's your unpopular opinion about women? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hellI love an intelligent woman and a degree definitely proves it. What I dislike is that a lot of woman pretend this to be such a big deal and show it off whenever they can, but have it as an absolute minimum requirement for men. I have never been initimidated by a woman. And certainly not because of a degree or intelligence. I have however been put off by arrogance (Not saying you are) about intelligence/studies. Edit: forgot to mention: you mention gifted which may be part of the reason of your e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 05:39 PM |
| 5 | How should I cultivate healthy violence and aggression in myself?I am not sure what you are asking. I mean, agression and Violence? I think what it boils down to is when a guy attacks you, can you defend yourself. All the rest of violence is too much for me personally. ASA recommendation: go do martial arts. Good for your health, good for your mind and you learn how to defend yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/22 09:41 AM |
| 1 | Do younger women actually like older men?41yo m. I feel like your question is faulty. I can easily get dated with end 20ies, begin 30ied woman. Younger if I wanted too but hmmmmmmmm. But you left out an important part imho. Older guys that want kids. I am 41m, 2 kids which doesn't seem to be an issue. But: I had a vasectomy cause I definitely don't want any more. Long story short I don't want my kids to feel like visitors in my new home with a new partner and full-time new kids. And that is a very different story line for their young v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/22 10:04 PM |
| 1 | What is the male equivalent of daily sexual harassment as a child?There is a big difference between being physically bigger and not a threat, and a state of mind. I am 6'3 and did over 14 years of full contact martial arts. I also have the mindset that you should never, ever, ever hit a woman. And one abussive ex figured that out. She was like 5'2 and regularly shoved, hit and slapped me. I could have putted a physical end to it without breaking a sweat. But I don't. I would tell her not to do it and she would just do it again cause she knew I would never put … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/22 08:22 PM |
| 1 | What is the male equivalent of daily sexual harassment as a child?I think men get less of attention and the micro agressions that woman have to endure. But when we get harrases, it's a 0 to a 100 immediately. I don't think I have ever been subtily harassed. I have never been cat called or have someone trying to get in my pants in an annoying way and I don't think a lot of my male friends have experienced that while all of my female friends have had that more than they can count. But common stories and most it I have experienced is: Getting sucker punched Guys … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/22 08:13 PM |
| 2 | What were the qualities of "alpha males" in the evolutionary past?Well, there is no single lion that leads. It is a group of coalition lions they rule for starters while you are talking about the single leader lion. And a leader who doesn't get along with the rest gets pushed out at best, and killed as worst. Even if you are the single alpha, you age and some day a younger more fit alpha will come knocking cause he has banked on the wrong indicators. Look at our world leaders. Are they big bulky alpha studs, or smart people that run the world cause your idea o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 09:06 PM |
| 1 | What were the qualities of "alpha males" in the evolutionary past?Ah yes, black and white thinking. You do you. There is only alpha's and beta's in the dimension where people believe in alpha's and beta's I am not into pride. I am I to me being me and being ok with whatever that is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 08:17 PM |
| 3 | What were the qualities of "alpha males" in the evolutionary past?Full disclaimer, I have been in that situation for a decade. The difference I see is sometimes you have to take hard decisions which the group doesn't see as a benefit, but it is required for the even bigger group (company Vs team) but most of the time if you built a good team or it grows generic (people wanting to transfer into your team) it is keeping your feed on the ground and serving from the top. (This sounds way douchier than I intend it) On the topic of woman, I notice a lot of woman wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 07:51 PM |
| 2 | What were the qualities of "alpha males" in the evolutionary past?Depends on the lion group. Many lion groups are being lead by a coalition of male lions, or so I learned where things are way more complex than being the most powerful asshole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 07:10 PM |
| 2 | What were the qualities of "alpha males" in the evolutionary past?Indeed, while a leader should actually lead and a lot of people will happily follow if you are a decisive good person who wants to advance everyone, not just themselves. Totally laugh worthy to be honest, these narc alpha types | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 07:04 PM |
| 9 | What is the male equivalent of daily sexual harassment as a child?Constant bullying and iniation of fights cause I was the tall freak. Got worse when I started to isolate and read during recess cause now I was the tall freak and geek. Nobody actually giving a fuck. Bikes trashes by bullies and getting punished for it at home. Told to suck it up. When I did respond (physically to save myself) more punishment from parents and school. Had a female classmate try to have sex with me while I was half passed out on a school trip from booze and weed (thank god for our… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 07:02 PM |
| 3 | What were the qualities of "alpha males" in the evolutionary past?Actually, I was even more wrong. There is no such thing as a male alpha. It is a group of male lions leading according to this: https://www.quora.com/What-happens-to-an-alpha-male-Lion-if-he-is-beaten | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 06:36 PM |
| 0 | What were the qualities of "alpha males" in the evolutionary past?I really don't agree. I see the alpha mindset in both men and woman. I would call them both assholes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 06:24 PM |
| 1 | What were the qualities of "alpha males" in the evolutionary past?That is actually the fine difference line I am referring to. They will take the lion share. See what happens if they take it all (which i see a lot human alpha's often having as a philosophy) Same for the the chimps: they play asshole AND play politics with the older chimps. Again, see what happens if they would JUST be the asshole and not play the politics They get cast aside or worse. An alpha is still responsible for his flock, pack, group, whatever. And it he doesn't take that responsibility… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 06:19 PM |
| 19 | What were the qualities of "alpha males" in the evolutionary past?Actually, a lot of what we think about alpha's these days does not correlate with our biological desires. We just attribute a bunch of stuff to being alpha because of movies and stuff. Alpha's in the animal kingdom are leaders, not dictators. And what I see presented these days are often very aggressive, selfish and overly dominant people. If a lion or a wolf did this, they would be killed and replaced The louder you scream you are an alpha, the less you are in my eyes. It is about protecting yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 04:15 PM |
| 2 | I feel that the great resignation has striking similarities to manosphere outrage over women losing interest in dating them.If you get attention for abs, that is exactly what you can expect from your relationship. Speaking as "an old" dude with the divorce to prove it. A woman who only looks at that will go for appearances in every aspect of her life and that is not a woman you want to marry imho | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 09:47 PM |
| 4 | Amicable divorce?Forgot to mention: damn. That is horrible though. Having to fight tooth and nail just to see your kids. I would go mental. I am actually fortunate that I can work from home and I see my kids every weekday in my ex's week as they come from school to my place before she picks them up after work | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/09/22 09:23 AM |
| 4 | Amicable divorce?Here in Belgium at least, it feels more like the norm. Most divorced people I know have a 50/50 arrangement. Deviations mostly occur in situations where work prohibits it or there are serious issues with one or both of the parents. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/09/22 09:22 AM |
| 9 | Amicable divorce?I did have an amical divorce for as far I am concerned. But it did take me swallowing some pride and anger. I did it cause my kids deserve to have a peaceful divorce. It's rough enough as it is and I want to protect them from more drama/bad stuff as much as possible. Things do work a bit different here in Europe where both me and my ex work and have a decent income. We have a 50/50 custody settlement and pay an equal amount of money into a joint kids account each month to take care of all costs … | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/09/22 09:00 AM |
| 2 | Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.Early 1900s doorways are the true evil among us | /r/MensRights | 02/09/22 07:06 AM |
| 11 | Is it hard to admit that you weren’t dateable when you were younger?I agree Ith most of it. And it can easily be summerized with: teach your kids better. Both boys and girls. The whole nice guy/bad boy and everything around it has deep psychological and biological roots. Teach your kids your kids how to socialize. How to be a good person and how to fail. Without wanting to brag but my 11 yo daughter her group of friends (boys and girls) is a pretty healthy lot and my hopes of her not accepting toxic shit is high. My son, well, work still needs to be done. It is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 06:29 AM |
| 3 | Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.Thanks, but despite your hopes.... | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 09:31 PM |
| 10 | Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.Aw man... 6'3 I just relived the trauma of going through an old stone doorway which seemed just enough but in reality wasn't and damn near scalped me ... That shit hurts | /r/MensRights | 01/09/22 07:48 PM |
| 5 | Top post today on TwoX implies the only emotion men know is anger.At least half of those posts there can be summarised with 'i think all men are pigs because that is easier than reflecting that i am the common denominator in all my shitty interactions with men' | /r/MensRights | 30/08/22 03:52 PM |
| 1 | “Tired of taking care of a grown child”She is not an alcoholic though and did some cleaning up after the divorce since there was no longer someone around to do it for her. But still struggles to keep a clean household | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 06:58 AM |
| 1 | Swiss Cheese Masculinity and The Romantic IdealWith what I see happening in the work place, male and female roles definitely can be spoken about on LinkedIn. The posts are also not perse a out what are turn on and offs and male and female energy. I notice the same with young woman at our office that they are afraid of men and a lot of young men have no clue how to hold themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/22 05:43 PM |
| 13 | “Tired of taking care of a grown child”There are definitely women out there like that. I used to be married to one. Never clean up after herself when she went to the bathroom. Often didn't even flush. When I cleaned the living room and she arrived, she would dump her stuff everywhere and would then complain the house was a mess. Could not cook. Forgot key ingredients from the supermarket even though it was on the shopping list (if we are gonna eat sausage and veggies, how can you not bring sausages?). Was helpless and clueless in eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/22 08:29 AM |
| -1 | Dating After 30 - The Dating Flip - Does It Exist?I am a guy so not clear on what you mean with that sentence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 04:52 PM |
| 3 | Dating After 30 - The Dating Flip - Does It Exist?Interesting. As a male, I have the mirror experience of that. I seem to run into all the woman that have mostly not evolved at all since their early twenties and just keep repeating the pattern, still have the same dreams and checklist. I try to date -5/+5 so age difference and mindset is not too big. It is a bit different here in Europe but the statement I often read about delusional woman in their thirties/forties really holds up. They seem to have done zero work on themselves despite failing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 04:24 PM |
| 4 | Dating After 30 - The Dating Flip - Does It Exist?Yeah, totally not into the big age gap. It screams daddy issues and I would have no clue how to handle a 20 year old to be honest. Life experience difference is just way too big. I don't know about the giant drop if you were dating aroung throughout your 20ies and 30ies. But it does feel like it if you have been in a 13+ years relationship and have kids for example. It feels like going from drinking from the fire hose to looking for water drops with a magnifying glass 😅 Also cultural difference … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 04:12 PM |
| 22 | Dating After 30 - The Dating Flip - Does It Exist?I feel what you write, but you are talking quantity, not quality. Your quality options do go down with age. Or at least that is the conclusion I am drawing being back on the market since my late thirties I have no lack of likes, but my god... The options .... And I am a guy. I can't imagine it isn't the same for woman, just a lot more of bad options | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 03:54 PM |
| 3 | Dating After 30 - The Dating Flip - Does It Exist?It feels like that, but in truth they do not cause they have their list. The only thing online dating, for example, has done, is making it invisible how often they are rejected by their dream option, and emphasize how often they make a judgement mistake by matching with an option they don't want in my point of view. I think they would easily get a lot more self aware if they would see the rejections from their desired options | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 03:51 PM |
| 9 | Dating After 30 - The Dating Flip - Does It Exist?I am a 41yo divorced guy with 2 kids and my biggest "dating" issue is left wiping on masses of 35-40 woman that have never had a long relationship and still want kids It is astonishing how many really still have completely delusional ideas and are still clueless about reality I do understand these "leftover" woman are over represented the apps but man... The profiles i see 🤦♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 03:47 PM |
| 1 | What do successful and educated men (lawyers, doctors, men in finance) look for in a partnerSelf made entrepreneur here. No degree but working and earning on that level. Divorced with 2 kids and learned a thing or 2 about myself and relationships. I would go for a woman I find attractive, intelligent, SELF AWARE, down to earth and has her own thing going whether it be corporate job or self employed, knows what she wants and understands partnership. It is give and take and will have rough patches to go through so communication is key. These days I see lists with demands and zero offerin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 09:43 PM |
| 10 | What is the ultimate sexual/romantic accomplishment for women?You are right. He will see her as an object and replace her with the newer model whenever he wants, cause he can. Plenty of young hotties lined up with this fantasy and I know that cause I ain't broke nor bitter 😬 Guys that take that approach are not in it for long term romance. That part is the fantasy piece | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Mandatory army service for a few years would fix a lot of men's introversion problemsStart your own business will teach you the same and without having to be in the army where toxic masculinity is like the standard. Also, introversion is not necessarily an issue. It is some traits or believes that sabotage you I started 2 companies in my twenties and thirties after having managed people. Management, you can always escalate but are expected to deal with a lot yourself and figure out a solution. Starting a business? No backup. You need to deal with everything. There is no safety n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 03:05 PM |
| 6 | Telling men to "focus on themselves" when they are looking to meet women is bad adviceSure, and that is what I mean with balance. Working out and becoming fit. Sure. Turning yourself into a gymrat that only does that will only attract a certain type of woman. If that is your goal, fine. But I see a lot of men and woman taking it way too fair making me think: so when do you live cause you do 20 hours of gym a week and obsessively make everything in your life about it including meal prep etc if this is what you want to do, again, fine, but the promise that you will be able to get a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 09:55 AM |
| 4 | Telling men to "focus on themselves" when they are looking to meet women is bad adviceI think if you would do it in a healthy way, it might work. Unfortunately a lot of the focus on yourself stuff is so extreme, for both men and woman, that they turn into someone un-dateable. If I see some of the posts on reddit about what tiny behaviour is gonna be deemed toxic and they should split up. I mean, toxic is toxic and should never be accepted, but I often see stuff where I think: what ever happened to working it out in a relationship instead of my way or the highway? A lot of it is a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 09:29 AM |
| 1 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.Still the opinion of one author and few woman. You want to demonize all woman cause some have questionable ideas? Sure man. Good luck with that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 04:52 PM |
| 1 | What is a healthy replacement for the "Manosphere"And not wanting to derail but if you go look into the occurrence of serious mental illness (psychopath, NPD, sociopath) and the correlation with being a person in power, this gets dark really fast. They occurance of these personality disorders is much higher with people in position of power than in the general population Maybe that is why few woman even want to rise to that level of power | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 08:19 AM |
| 1 | Straight men, when is it OK for gay men to cold approach you?As long as you are honest and transparent, just about anywhere. I enjoy a compliment from a guy. What to not do: pretend to be a woman on OLD. I had a lot of these the last months and really don't understand. I am not suddenly gonna change my sexual preference cause you at first pretended to be a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 08:13 AM |
| 2 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.🤷♂️ sexual attraction is sexual attraction. Or maybe just being horny. Who cares | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 07:55 AM |
| 2 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.I am 6'3, have a good running business and I take care of myself and my kids.I am writing this from a nice terras I Tuscany watching my kids having fun in the pool if you want to put dicks in the table and measure. I have no problem with finding candidates My ex wife decided she wanted to ride the dick carousel once again and has expressed her regret but my trust is gone. And if billy Bob is taller or better looking than me, that is exactly how I know I found a superficial woman, not wife materi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 08:19 PM |
| 1 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.Sorry bud, but from what I can deduct, you are a mid twenties? I am 41. Different view and experience Experiences are just that. Context, age and world you live in. We seem to be very different on all three. I have a marriage of 15 years behind me with 2 kids and I somehow feel you cann ok t relate to that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:41 PM |
| 8 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.The point is clearly flying over your head. Yes there are woman who will date a red flag. A certain type. Turning yourself into a red flag if you want a stable life and relationship is a really bad idea. And I am in no way gaslighting you. I am clearly sending my message badly or your receiving it poorly. But you are right, I am done too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 06:54 PM |
| 4 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.I don't know what you mean with being gaslit by people like me, but we clearly live in different worlds man. Rasta's who seek lot and pills are not around me in any aspect of my life. Also, you are thus using a second hand witness as source. Was he drunk when he saw this? On pills ? Stoned? Did he want a chance for himself with the cute blonde lawyer girl? I also think you are turning some of your experiences up as normality while in truth they are edge cases. Well, at least on this side of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 06:16 PM |
| 5 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.Meh. I think this is a serious cultural difference between europe and the US and from all the studies I have read, the percentage is significantly smaller than a lot of people think. And honestly: the nice middle class girl riding the coke dealer? Bruh, how many red flags do you skip before saying meh, maybe not? Justifying their own behaviour and hiding it. Red flag number 28 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:51 PM |
| 1 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.I didn't say it didn't exist but Yeah, a certain type of woman. If you want to date these type woman... Have fun and stay safe cause they are a match with dark triad personalities. You attract what you send out. You want to go over the hot crazy border? Have fun. A friend of mine did this and ended up in the witness stand after she killed her own grandmother for money ... But he got to fuck the hottest girl for a while | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:07 PM |
| -2 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.Trust me, when I just got divorced I tried. It is just not me. I don't have it in me. It does not help that my first test I went all wrong on th hot crazy scale and paid dearly for it. But yeah no. You attract what you send out and I honestly can't deal with that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 04:52 PM |
| 4 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.As if we guys admit we took the wrong turn on the hot/crazy scale man. Crazy girl vibes but meh, I'll take her home anyway cause she is hot.... 😬 I'll never do that again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 04:49 PM |
| 2 | What exactly qualifies as a high n count "bodycount" to people on this sub?Not all guys are the same. I enjoy going deeper with a partner and casual encounters are just scratching the surface. If I had the opportunity, would I sleep with more woman? Maybe. But definitely not every woman I could just as I don't do now. Even when I was younger I preferred a LTR and lots of sex with my girlfriend over multiple partners. Is just doesn't resonate with me. I enjoy quality and how it improves over time with a partner, not quantity or the thrill of scoring which some friends o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 04:46 PM |
| 9 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.This is all under the presumption it is all about looks. A lot of guys just don't get fucked because their attitude or they are a walking red flag | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 04:13 PM |
| 6 | Men trip about n-count, but the average number of sexual partners for men and women (based on millennials) is about the same.If you boast your count on an anonymous inquiry you are a cretin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 03:54 PM |
| 1 | How to become the "bad boy"Bad boy is about vibe,.not just some physical appearance. The biggest bad boy I know is a suited up project manager in telecom. But he is the genuine asshole bad boy that knows how to exactly treat a woman as a princess AND giving her the cold shoulder. Also: don't do this shit. If you are not successful in your current dating pool, you are in the wrong pool man. The common denominator is you and this really doesn't sound like a healthy fix for it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 03:51 PM |
| 9 | Men trip about n-count, but the average number of sexual partners for men and women (based on millennials) is about the same.80/20 rule. Chads are distorting the numbers. More than 20% of men had more than 15 partners while only 12% of woman have had that number | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 03:40 PM |
| 5 | Men trip about n-count, but the average number of sexual partners for men and women (based on millennials) is about the same.Not really, I was married for 15 years with someone with a high body count. She left and broke our family (divorce with 2 kids) simply because she got bored of just 1 partner. So that is where the feat for me is. Breaking an otherwise good marriage just cause one dick for life, or at least the kids are old enough is too much. Even opened the relationship so she could do her thing. So no, it is not always about insecurities. It is: how much investment in this relationship is gonna be safe. I clea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 03:24 PM |
| 14 | Men trip about n-count, but the average number of sexual partners for men and women (based on millennials) is about the same.Yup. And after my divorce even more so. Was married to a high body count wife. Long story short: after 13 years She eventually wanted to go back in the game and play around. Tried an open relationship and she just went loose and left because she had too much fun and I was her limiting factor. Now she can do whatever she wants in the week she doesn't have the kids. So pretty traumatized that someone would leave their family just to be able to score as much as possible. I am very very weary of thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Why don't more people use dating agencies?I have been contemplating this for a while now and the thing that is holding me back is: Pretty expensive and their "pool" of people is pretty limited. However, the people there seem to be more up to par with what I am looking for. Since I am guessing they too are paying between 1200 and 2000 euro I would guess they are taking finding a relationship serious, the woman are not looking for a financial crutch and I can only hope they "did the work" after their marriage/relationship. But all and all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 02:28 PM |
| 2 | Why don't more people use dating agencies?It is only free of you don't put value on your time to be honest. If you look at how many times the average guy has to swipe before a match (I believe it was something like 800 times) that is a lot of time they could have spend on something else. The reason I don't use an agency is because it is pretty costly and they have a very limited pool of potential partners because of that so the odds seem pretty poor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/22 08:43 AM |
| 1 | What exactly qualifies as a high n count "bodycount" to people on this sub?🤷♂️ your conclusion, not mine | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 08:47 PM |
| 1 | What exactly qualifies as a high n count "bodycount" to people on this sub?The global average is 8 for both men and woman. Time to check out of your echo chamber 😬 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 06:01 PM |
| 1 | What exactly qualifies as a high n count "bodycount" to people on this sub?It's about what it makes a person feel. You cheated on someone? (Aka couldn't communicate? Better show me you learned or bye). You have 50+ partners? Better show me you have changed your mind. I mean: I am looking for MY future relationship and I have certain needs and wants which includes a woman who does not get validation from being wanted by strangers and going into that to get her validation or woman who are emotionally stable enough to communicate instead of fucking someone else while not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 05:59 PM |
| 1 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?You are very much projecting..I come out of a marriage of 15 years where my body count was 6. I am now, divorced for 4 years and am at 35 and would love to have my body count at 36 for the rest of life. Quality beats quantity every time and the amount of work that has I put in just to find out they wanted a ride is mind boggling So yeah, no more sex until I know where things are going cause I got stuff to do outside of wooing a woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 05:53 PM |
| 4 | What exactly qualifies as a high n count "bodycount" to people on this sub?20% or less have 8+ according to research (world-wide) so I would love a source on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 05:41 PM |
| 5 | What exactly qualifies as a high n count "bodycount" to people on this sub?Checks out with the research. 80% of people has slept with 8 people or less | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 05:39 PM |
| 4 | What exactly qualifies as a high n count "bodycount" to people on this sub?Actually, no, they don't. Only 20% of the human population has slept with more than 8 people. There is plenty of research on thay | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/22 05:38 PM |
| 7 | Women across social media are celebrating this biased article about "lonely single men", which conveniently ignores women's dual-mating and unreasonable standards. Maybe they'll do an article about the rise in lonely single moms, Leftovers and obese women to make it balanced.I believe, personally, that these are emotionally immature woman. I am 41m, divorced and by a lot of the "standards" I read on the internet, quite the catch. 6'3, very well earning, own house, hobbies, friends, fit. But I lack the adventure gene. I do travel and have fun with my friends, but I am also a lot of a homebody and somebody who cannot be at peace with themselves is actually a red flag to me. Am I lonely on occasion? Yes. My wife left me (from my point of view because of a midlife crisi… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 21/08/22 04:53 PM |
| 4 | I think we need to relook at what the “ average man” actually isI actually deleted my social media cause i was just cringing all the time of the fakeness and positive nonsense. Posting perfect family pictures while in private my friend trusted in me they had problems and we're considering divorce. Filtered photos, boasting an expensive lifestyle that is not payed by them or completely faked. Yuk | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 07:13 PM |
| 2 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?No, you don't need to live as a monk. But I choose to only date woman who is humbly confident, self-aware, and has a conscious attitude towards dating. I see a lot of women here in Belgium not knowing what they want in terms of dating. That's fine. But I do. And I am not wasting my time so they can figure that out. I am a 41-year-old male with a business that runs pretty well, 2 kids 50/50 of the time, own my own home, and have friends and hobbies. I've done years of therapy to become mature and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 08:37 AM |
| 16 | Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why?The joke is actually on woman cause the guys worth a grain of salt will say yeah, fuck that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 07:15 PM |
| 5 | Most girls are conditioned to think that what's most important about them is how they look.A certain type of men does. But definitely not all men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/22 04:34 PM |
| 7 | Did you ever regret not committing to a girl because you wanted to search for your perfect someone?Let me give you some 38 yo guys perspective on this. I got divorced 2 years ago and am now back in that dating pool. So this is in 12 years for you. Granted, I have an extra constraint that you don't, which is I have kids. But trust me when I tell you that if you want them, you don't want to do this in 15 to 20, 5 to 8 is more realistic. Anyway, around my age, the dating pool is filled with people who have been hurt, can't trust, or are chasing that non-existing "creme-de-la-creme". Single moms.… | /r/seduction | 23/12/19 10:30 PM |
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