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OP, your "advice" just boils down to "be handsome and charismatic", with an extra social media step to demonstrate this to the widest possible audience. If you're socially awkward and ugly, you will almost never gain a following, and the fact that you're churning out cringe "content" twice a week that gets 3 views max will actually just be further proof that you're a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:44 PM
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You're making assumptions about why the people in your examples are jealous. A romantic woman might jealous of a beautiful woman's ability to be a successful gold digger. Her beauty gives her options and power and desirability. She's just choosing to squander it in a shallow and transactional relationship. She could act differently and have much greater romantic success than the hypothetical homely romantic woman, but she chooses not to. If the homely romantic woman suddenly had the gold diggers…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:15 PM
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I've never seen this distinction before. Someone being hot and being attractive are the same thing. I'm attracted to hot women and I'm not attracted to ones that aren't hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 02:50 PM
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Seems to me like most beautiful women are ego maniacs that love being lusted over, but I that does explain my one ex 😀. But seriously, just pick someone you like from the 10 guys that hit on you each day, the 20 guys you're stringing along in the friendzone, and the thousands of guys in your dms. I know you girls are picky, but there's gotta be one diamond in the ruff in the there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:08 AM
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Do men actually think Paris Hilton is hot? Money can improve your looks, but looks can get you money just easily. Simply Mary a rich prince charming, or show up at Google and bat your eyelashes. Boom, you're a pm making 500k to bully nerdy coder dorks( just like high school, i guess you do have more than one year of experience) And make tiktoks about how you manifested everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:43 AM
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I wish I had these "problems" I'll never understand. Sincerely, i wish i had this different, better set of problems. Even that response indicates you're on a higher plane of existence than me. Im sure you can imagine my below average man problems, im super lonely all the time and everyone looks down on me and ill never be good enough at anything. What are these problems exactly? Everyone you meet likes you no matter what you say or do and you have too many dating options and can't be bothered to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:32 AM
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Ugly/fat rich girls wish they were 10s. Money can never buy the genuine attention, love, and lust that being beautiful gets you. Who needs generational wealth when self-made handsome multi millionaires and male models and artists and politicians are all competing for your attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:09 AM
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I don't go to the gym. I just don't hold other men up on pedestals.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:46 PM
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So to sum up your positions: 1. If women ran the world, there would be no hierarchy because women don't care at all 2. I'd never, ever, date a smelly broke bitch loser garbage man...because...patriarchy! Is that about right? If status truly isn't important to you personally, I don't understand why you allow it to dictate your dating preferences? All I'm saying is that this is a two way street. As long as status is a metric women use to reject or accept men, men will try to maximize their own sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:17 PM
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You don't really seem to be comprehending what I'm saying. You can choose to ignore status right now, but you won't. Go date a garbage man! Or admit that status is important to you and acknowledge your complicity in the status quo. You want a world with no status, but you refuse to date low status men. You can't see how that motivates men to attain high status? If all women dated only low status broke losers from this moment onwards, the capitalist system would be demolished within 10 years, as …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:44 PM
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In women's ideal world, they would each be dating high status men. I know that women dont respect garbage men because their job is unskilled, dirty, and doesn't demonstrate social skills and dominance. Despite the fact that it's necessary and honest work. The hierarchy exists because women want to date winners and don't want to date losers. My biggest motivation to have a high status job is women, second biggest reason is the money (which I like to invest but also have to use a portion of it to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:14 PM
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Your reply is paradoxical. Nothing is stopping you from dating a garbage man, other than the shame and stigma from your women friends, and the fact that you likey don't want to. This is the patriarchys fault of course. If women were in charge, garbage men would be respected and cherished*! (*by other people hopefully, they still smell bad)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:31 PM
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"When I grow up, I wanna be just like batman!"-just justforlulz
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:48 PM
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Looking up to anyone is weak/juvenile/feminine. A grown man that has a hero he looks up to? Doesn't get more beta than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:36 PM
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Unless the father happens to agree with the mother by random chance, he will necessarily be coerced and have no recourse under the current system. Even if the mother lied about birth control and poked holes in the condom. I don't want to punish the mother or the child, I want to spare both of them by clearly incentivizing the mother not to carry the child to term. She would know her life will get worse if she keeps the child instead of know she'll get extra money from the government and checks f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:19 PM
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If you're broke and your only hope is to baby trap some guy, you absolutely should be coerced into getting an abortion. You can't afford it and the kid won't have a father and you'll likely do a terrible job raising him. I've seen kids raised like this, single mother in section 8. She was proud that both her kids had the same father, although he wasn't in their life at all. The son was 10 and couldn't read. Numbers either. I know this because I watched him play gta (which in my opinion, he was f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 07:36 AM
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It's that they are content and happy to cook and clean, not just that they do it. The guy makes the money and calls the shots and the wife happily goes along with it and takes pride and joy in cooking well and making the house nice and taking care of the kids and dressing up. Just super femme in the most traditionally rose colored 1950s nostalgia sense. I'm just explaining the appeal. It's not that they can cook, it's that they do it happily and look pretty and don't do much else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:18 AM
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Much more often than the other way around. But still not super often. My face is ugly but I'm tall and not fat, and it's happened to me a few times. I go to the barber once a month but I never ever get manicures.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:36 PM
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You're visual, but your gaze falls on everything around and attached to the man, not the man himself. "I saw a woman with a nice ass and I daydreamed about marriage." This is what is meant by men being visual creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:19 PM
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Visual in a different sense. If I were to receive two booty pics from two different women, the one with the nicer shaped ass and hips wins every time. One could be a professional destination photo shoot with perfect makeup and hair and nails, the other could be a bathroom selfie through a dirty mirror with the toilet lid up and she's wearing a do-rag and sweatshirt. All of the visual information except the size and shape of her ass and hips is completely superfluous to me. I'm smart enough to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:11 PM
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If they don't have the option to be a fuccboi, then they aren't attractive enough for you to even notice they exist. Having the option of being a fuccboi, but not exercising it is the only virtuous path. There's no virtue in not being a fuccboi because absolutely no one wants to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:20 AM
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You're missing a lot of nuance from the depths of a loneliness you were mercifully spared from by chance. I think most men want the option to be a fucc boi, but they don't necessarily want to be one. Conversely, there's no virtue in not being a fucc boi if you couldn't be one even if you wanted to. Who doesn't want to be desired and have options? My own story, through my teens and early 20s I wanted desperately one girl, any girl, to be true to and get married and love forever. But this wasn't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:46 AM
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Women don't like broke men, but they also don't like stingy and cheap men. If you're worth 10 mil but you never spend any of it, it's useless to her. She'd have more fun with a spendthrift guy with massive credit card debt. She knows he'll spend money, which is what women actually care about (obviously). When the bills come due, she can just dip. On to the next. A rich guy that also spends would be best, but after that is a broke guy living beyond his means, not a prudent and cheap rich guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:02 PM
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Yes. Therefore probably 90 percent of women are prostitutes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:36 PM
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If they're really into you, they won't make you wait long. They've all gone home with a guy the first time they met, or even gone over to his place for a "netflix and chill" sight unseen. If she's making you wait 5+ dates, she's really not that into you and thinks you don't stack up. You'll work harder for less than guys she deems better than you, and she will leave or cheat. If she likes you and thinks you're cool and handsome and fun, it should be closed by the second date. I prefer second dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:37 PM
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That is radically and shockingly not even close to what western culture was like in the 90s. Maybe 1890s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:09 PM
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Yes, having essentially unlimited options is just as bad as having 0, because then you have to choose from among your options and be accountable to yourself for the choice you make. How terrible, poor women. Great analogy OP! Keep it up!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:34 PM
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As soon as I found out I was having a boy, I would insist on aborting. Safe bet he would inherit some of my looks, so it would simply be too cruel to bring him into existence. The crushing loneliness and repeated failure, not worth it and I couldn't bear it. Ages 10-30, the way i lived it and with the hangups i got from it, simply not worth it. I don't think I could teach him to overcome his looks and be a cool outgoing competent winner all the time. We would abort and try again for a girl. Just…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:11 PM
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You definitely shouldn't have your tween son build a wheelchair ramp on your friends house by himself! You're going to hurt someone and get sued.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:02 PM
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The sentiment of feminism when I came up (2000s and early 2010s) was mostly just women jealous of male CEOs and complaining about the glass ceiling and pay gaps. They all aspired to be girl bosses and wear the pants. I think feminism is better now, these young 20s girls that I'm dating just want to be treated with respect but their goals are traditionally feminine, unlike most of the women I grew up with. But anyway, it was like feminism was coopted by capitalists/big business. This is a class a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:09 PM
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They aren't thinking logically about the ethics of global supply chains and the morality of capitalism. They aren't deeply pondering cause and effect and virtue. They want to end child labor in sweatshops and save the polar bears and they want whatever the hottest fast fashion item is and an audi suv. And they see no relation or contradiction here. "Children and bears are cute, of course I want to help them. Also I'd look so good with designer sunglasses driving a masserati. I hope my bf buys me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:02 PM
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You wouldn't really be a passport bro in the classic sense, as it sounds like you'd be average/broke in a 3rd world country too 😉. 0 in the US equals 0 in the Philippines. You could also consider girls that are aspiring communist revolutionaries or trust funder types that don't need your money and don't value it because they've always had it in abundance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:17 PM
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Because men and women want different things, you can't just swap it like that. When you say she's very attractive, a gender swapped version of an attractive woman would be a successful, competent, handsome and suave man. He would still be bad at budgeting(big spender since he's rich) and a private woman hater though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:18 PM
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I can see how you think I repeated myself. I was trying to explain my motivation and attitude. I don't want power to lord it over people and abuse them, I reluctantly accept I need it or I'll be broken up with and never respected generally. I have experience dating people who respected me until I truly fell in love with them at which time they realized they had the upper hand and stopped respecting me and either walked all over me or broke up with me. You seem unable to grasp my point that both …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:54 PM
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I don't know that its better, its aguably worse, but it's the only stable solution, and one that the woman herself chooses. A woman that thinks she has the upper hand or is in an equal relationship will get bored/resent/lose attraction for the guy and ultimately end the relationship. I say thinks because if she underestimates her power or overestimares his, she'll be content and happy. She'll trade the equal relationship with a normal pushover loser guy for one with a better guy and therefore an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:09 AM
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You want to feel special to a really good guy right? Like he was so desired he had many options but he chose you. Now you're thrilled but you better live up to his expectations. Compare this to knowing you're the absolute best this guy could ever do and he's jumping through hoops to keep you. Because he has no power. It's weak and unattractive and you'll leave him quick for a better guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:14 AM
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The power is at a bare minimum the ability to end the relationship and date a different girl at least as pretty as your current girlfriend quicker than your current girlfriend can replace you with someone better. Or convincing yourself(and your girlfriend) that you don't care if you'll be single for years after she leaves you. Or she's very weak willed and relys on you to talk her down and support her and give good advice when she's struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:23 AM
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So did all of that BS work? Are you drowning in beautiful women now that you found and accepted yourself and treat everyone as human being and accept them on their own terms? Or is it a waste of time?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:12 AM
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I think OP used the wrong terminology, "power" is upsetting everyone. He's not saying men need to abuse their power, he's saying men need to have more of it than women (and presumably use it benevolently). I think it should be stated differently: if you're a man, the woman has to want/need you more than you want her, or the relationship is doomed. This tracks with my own personal experience. If your girlfriend isn't looking up to you and relying on you(emotionally, materially, etc.), then it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:53 AM
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I've invited it, go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:22 PM
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I'm 6 feet, 6 figures, 6 inches. No 6 pack, but I'm not obese. By what you've said I'm above average. But it feels like I'll need to be a multi millionaire and get plastic surgery to find a nice girl that's not overweight with no kids and no serious untreated mental health issues. Who cares about her career?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 03:57 AM
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I guess I'm out of touch in that regard. It's seemed like being poor but loved was infinitely preferable to my position. Grass isn't always greener. And you're on purple pill debate so maybe you aren't loved either 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:32 PM
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I get that. Why would you even want to do well career wise if people will like and love and respect you regardless. I honestly don't understand your motivation. The corporate rat race is mysery regardless of gender unless you're at the very top.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:17 PM
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I think you're missing an important nuance to what op is saying. While that sexism is unfair and tragic in my opinion, it's sidestepping op's point. His point is that if women want to do those jobs (in your case high paying leadership roles), they want to do them simply for themselves. Men do those jobs because they need to, or else they're worthless and they'll die unloved facedown in the gutter. You don't need to have a high paying leadership role to be considered dateable. You could quit your…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:52 PM
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I suspect both of you are somewhat complicit in this. I'm not blaming you, as it's not your fault. But with your high libidos I imagine you are more into and more receptive to cluster b men. They make bold and brazen moves and you respond by going home and sleeping with them. Then boom relationship. For most men, withholding sex as a manipulation tactic isn't even something that crosses our mind. We're too busy hoping it isn't done to us, and thrilled like a kid in a candystore when we can have …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:30 PM
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If you're saying "no fat single mothers" is unrealistically high standards, then it's impossible to have a discussion with you about this. Most guys would overlook everything else for a woman with no kids and a healthy weight. High n count? whatever. Manipulative? I can deal. But to raise another man's kids to have sex with a fat woman? That's an ultimate L. Everyday you would wake up and have it rubbed in your face how badly you failed at life. The father had sex with her when she was fit and u…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:12 PM
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It's work because until you get them to fall for you, you have to execute perfectly any time you're in their presence or texting them. Any mistakes and your done, she's on to the next. It's a lot of pressure, like making a presentation to the ceo at work. Fuck up and you're fired. The more into the woman you are, the more you feel this pressure. And if you like her, so does everyone else, she's got a ton of backup options. Text too often, needy, done. Text too little, emotionally unavailable. Mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:23 PM
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Man is movie director, woman is film critic. Movie director puts honest and creative effort in, film critic shows up opening day, sits through it for two hours, says it was bad and writes a paragraph critiquing it. Tomorrow the film critic will see another movie, hopefully this next one doesn't suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:54 PM
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I'm sure that's often true. Some of them want to have you and then hang out and go swimming and watch movies and give you career advice and be nice to you. And then have you again 😀
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:16 PM
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You are having your own conversation here. We're not discussing what is or isn't an issue. And we're not talking about the average broke divorced 40 year old. OP is talking about 30+ year old guys dating 20 year old women. Lostacoshermanos posits that the only thing that changes for guys from 20 to 30+ is that they have more money, so if a 30 year old can now date a 20 year old, she's gold digging. And I'm saying that other things change for men as they age, especially if they have money, as the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:40 AM
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Ok you know best. I'm 33 and I've got yet another date with my long term 24 yo fwb tomorrow night. No kids never married. Having a great time since I turned 28, so much better than when I was in my early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:55 AM
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Well if the original supposition is that the young women are using them for their money, it's a fair bet that their wisdom, skills, and experience are indeed useful, as those are what enable him to make money. Having more knowledge, skill, and experience than a 20 uear old guy is why a 30 year old guy has more money. Also you left out competence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:44 AM
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Yes, as a result of/and/or being more confident, competent, skilled, wise, and experienced. Most women are more complicated than men. Some only care about looks or physique, but a lot care about a whole bunch of other more practical shit more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:30 PM
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A 30 year old man wants to have fun, just like a 20 year old girl 😀. In a lot of ways they're on the same page, their life is just beginning. Most 20 year old girls already have more experience with relationships and sex than I'll ever have in my life. They've made more friends in the last year than I'll make in my life. I've dated girls in their early 20s that could eat me alive if they wanted to. Also to answer the original question, it's not tons of of early 20s girls lining up once you hit 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:45 PM
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I agree with what you are saying broadly. A 20 year old guy shouldn't just write his 20s off. It's important to try, stay social, and avoid becoming bitter. But it is brutal for men through their mid 20s, at least in my experience. I'm mid 30s now, but when I was coming up this wasn't even part of the discourse. "You'll do better in college!" "Graduate and get a good job and the women will come." Neither of those things were true for me, and it didn't even occur to me that it could change around…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:17 PM
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It's not just about women in their 30s getting desperate. That's a factor, sure. But I've pulled fit women in their 30s that aren't desperate, and that never would have spoken to me when we were both 20. I've also dated women in their early 20s that could have any guy they want. These girls would never have noticed me when I was 22, but they all notice me at 32. It's not entirely explained by desperation, and seemingly not at all for me. My career is ok but not outstanding, and I'm not noticeabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:36 PM
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Men interact with men and that causes many conflicts, but women make every conflict winner take all zero sum. Win the most material and status and all the women are your, lose and get mocked and ostracized at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:37 PM
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Thats an extreme example. But even in the Trojan war, how many individual soldiers were motivated by having their way with the conquered women, looting and spending some of the money on their wives or whores? After the war Odysseus spent 10 years trying to get home to his wife. Going far back in pre and ancient history, wars were fought to take a neighbors resources to placate your wife, or outright take your neighbors wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:34 PM
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Most men would be content with the bare minimum necessities and comforts, but women are never content. Women want the most, the best, the highest status, and they are never content. Men may seem like they want those things, but at the core they just want women to notice that they have them. We would still be living in caves eating berries were it not for women, indirectly that is. War, slavery, crime, spaceflight, computers, medicine, skyscrapers all have the same common root motivation-impressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:10 PM
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The reality is that just because I’m desired by the opposite sex doesn’t somehow make the rest of my life perfect. It doesn’t mean I have a lot of friends that I hang out with all the time. It doesn’t mean I don’t fuck up at work. It doesn’t mean I fit in effortlessly with my peers. It doesn’t mean I’m immune from anxiety. In fact I’m riddled with anxieties, because who isn’t these days? I think it literally does make the rest of your life perfect. It may not seem that way to you because we have…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:30 AM
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Top 90 percent of women and top 50 percent of men(most people)=normie
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:09 AM
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Your counter question essentially is my question or at least one facet of it. I was trying to ask, now that I've achieved my singular goal in life, what do I do? And then as a data point, what do people who have lived a life with my singular goal handed to them from day aspire to and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:38 AM
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Thanks for the reply. You certainly have an interesting perspective, totally alien to mine. It does sound like you are on the right path. Looking back, my behavior seems crazy, essentially devoting years 18 to 30 to single-mindedly fighting my inferiority complex head on, and for what? It seemed like not being lonely was infinitely better than being lonely, and it wasn't a choice for me so it really got to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:31 AM
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Yes, "player fatigue" sounds about right, as funny as it is to say. The answer doesn't seem to be in women, you are right. So what now? Sell my house and quit my job? I've had a singular motivation for so long, I'm a bit disheartened now that I've found success.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 01:20 AM
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