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DiscussionNoone_else_is_honest/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:06 AM
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STRATEGYNoone_else_is_honest/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/06/21 01:42 AM
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CMVNoone_else_is_honest/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:45 AM
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Question For MenNoone_else_is_honest/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:15 AM
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CMVNoone_else_is_honest/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:31 AM
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CMVNoone_else_is_honest/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:06 PM
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DiscussionNoone_else_is_honest/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:38 AM
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DiscussionNoone_else_is_honest/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:09 AM
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DiscussionNoone_else_is_honest/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:06 PM
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CMVNoone_else_is_honest/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 03:46 AM
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Yes - No more or less than men 18-35 years old. The difference is that women are infantilised for longer than men, so she’s likely to doubt her conviction more. Does WHAT you want change, also yes (including what you are attracted to) - but that does not invalidate previous versions of what you wanted. Do you get BETTER at knowing what is good for you, and finding the sweet spot between want and desire? Yes. Do you act on it? Some do, some don’t. Depends on how comfortable you are with your own …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:34 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:34 AM
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Very true, which is why I think no-one should praise or criticise themselves too much for being single. We can work on being a good person and find happiness single
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:00 PM
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Most men (99.9999) will never be wealthy enough to have a transactional relationship with a woman, whereby she’s stunning and he’s old and unattractive but so rich she decides to settle for the lifestyle - so contrary to your assumption most men do not get the goods when they’re “hideous and senile”. To be fair, for the über rich men and the women who marry them, good for them. It’s not the relationship I would ever want, but if it works for them great. It’s always better to cry in a Rolls-Royce…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:53 AM
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I’ve posted before about how advanced paternal age considerably contributes to congenital birth defects in babies, like here. Furthermore, the average woman who has grown up healthy with good access to quality nutrition can carry a healthy pregnancy well into her 40s. Risks increase for both genders once they’re considered at an advanced age for reproduction (<35), but this is again is somewhat mitigated by good health, access to modern health care etc. I’m not really going to argue with you, a …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:55 AM
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This concept of ‘the wall’ is a flailing attempt at shaming women. This aside, it’s also a very flawed concept that is inherently one-dimensional. No fantastic relationships that I look up to in is based on this idea that women have a “best by” date, quite simply because people are not products in any loving relationship I admire. We are all most beautiful in our 20s, but any relationship which anchors itself to the physical is too shallow to ever sail to the depths of a truly fucking phenomenal…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:32 AM
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My view (which I think is what you mean by argument) is that we should all pursue fulfilling and positive life experiences, pursue education, career and social (friends and family) success BEFORE we look to prioritise romantic/sexual relationships. It makes us more interesting people, and like attracts like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:25 AM
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Know one is entitled to a partner. I’m entitled to human rights, physical and emotional safety, food etc. A partner? No. I think it’s the fact that it’s NOT an entitlement and thus partly luck and hard work that makes outliers angry/defeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:22 AM
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I think this idea that ANYONE needs to settle down with someone in their youth is incredibly naive, and mostly comes from young inexperienced men or older religious conservative zealots. Most grounded healthy adults with solid self esteem do not want to someone inexperienced who’s going to wonder “what if” in their mid 40s a few kids and a mortgage later.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 08:35 AM
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Statistics are a little simplistic for body composition comparison between genders. Hormonal gender differences and body types mean that women have more fat to muscle (which in large part gives women the soft curves and plumpness in cheeks, butt and breasts) than men. Testosterone also means that mean have to try a lot harder to get really fat. A women at 30-40% bf can still be sexy if everything is in proportion, a man less so because curves and waist etc are not attractive in men, so weight ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:34 AM
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True, it’s harder for any gender to get attention when you’re a little chubby.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:19 AM
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The first picture is a man who could model for Vogue Italia and melt even your granny’s knickers. The second looks like your average looking middle class 20 year old in his grunge stage haha. Literally WORLDS apart in attractiveness. The women I swiped on and matched were all perfectly normal average attractiveness women, just like the picture I was using.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:40 AM
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No he’s quite perfectly average. He’s not going to turn heads for good or bad reasons, which is basically the litmus test. Can you attach a link to a man you consider average?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:37 AM
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It was years ago, but I recall the picture was something like this Haha I’m joking. The guy looked like this dude
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 02:56 AM
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It was years ago, but I recall the picture was something like this Haha I’m joking. The guy looked like this dude
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 02:56 AM
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I did this with a very plain average Caucasian male’s pictures, an easy 5/10, not ugly, not handsome or very masculine. I had to cancel after a week because it felt disingenuous-but I had lots of messages, responses to my many messages, and three women who were keen to meet. I would say about 30 matches in a week. For most average men who are tidy, hygienic, not ugly, obese or too old or live somewhere where there are few women, your conversation skills, and genuine interest in getting to know a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:06 AM
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Hi! Could you pass me the links to studies that state sperm is less likely to carry defects? I’d be interested to read it. There have been many very large, long term, and reputable registers of birth defects, that allow scientists to accurately study possible contributors of congenital defects, and mortality. I’ll find you some good academic articles/studies that aren’t behind a pay-wall Sources Data from more than 40 million births showed that babies born to fathers of an “advanced paternal age…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:39 AM
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You’re young, keep looking after your skin, don’t stress about the eye bags. You’ll be miles ahead of the rest in ten years
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:46 AM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:24 AM
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The only truth in their statements is that some men do amass so much wealth that they still manage to get a stunning 20-something to date them, but it’s not for their look$, so they’ll ultimately end up complaining that women are gold diggers and completely miss how funny this irony is. However, it is an absolutely tiny percentage of the population who will be this wealthy. If you predicate your attraction to the other gender on anything other than personality and looks then don’t complain when …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 03:05 AM
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Sounds like people would have less need for these binary and inaccurate theories if they did one simple thing: make sure if you ask something of another person that you also bring it to the table! It’s that simple. Nobody’s expectations are unrealistic if they also meet them, and this means we all end up with someone on our level, or carry on our merry way happy anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:50 PM
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No, that’s not true at all 😅 I support myself, I got an education and a career to make sure I have my own money always. And I don’t partake in casual sex, it’s a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:45 PM
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I think you’ll find this is definitely not true for women, particularly younger women. We absolutely do care about how a man looks, and since you gave the celebrity example, just look at how Brad Pitt and George Clooney have aged? They look wayyyyy past their prime, and we’re talking about the creme of the crop here, who looked like goddamn angels in their 20s. Now consider ageing hits the average man much less kindly, no amount of money fixes that. I have never met a man who was sexier at 50 th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:39 PM
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Not just for burns or infections. The quality of your skin is indicative of health factors, your diet and lifestyle, vitamin deficiencies etc. It’s obviously your right to not spend 5 min slapping on some moisturiser and sunblock, but since we’re on a dating and sex subreddit, it’s absolutely going to detrimentally impact how attractive you are to women. Trust me, we care and will chose a man who does take care of himself at the most basic level 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:32 PM
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As a woman who’s attractive i hardly ever find a man in his 30s or 40s physically attractive enough for me to date. Men absolutely get less attractive as they age, haha this is so weird that anyone would deny it let alone devise a whole dating approach predicated on it. Furthermore, women with careers money AND looks actually have more options in their 30s onwards, it’s basic statistics; if you have these three things as a woman in your 30s you’re already an outlier. I’ve been pursued more now t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:26 PM
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Age appropriate, the aim here is to look good for your age, not to clutch onto some arbitrary stage of youth 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:15 PM
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Dermatology is a medical specialisation for a reason. Skin condition is strongly correlated to health, and can actually demonstrate or be the direct location of many illnesses which detrimentally impact overall health or can lead to death. But go ahead and fight for your right to stay dusty 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:13 PM
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Haha you have to be kidding right? I hear about these mythical men who think basic hygiene is gay and I sincerely pity the poor women in their personal life before they ultimately snap out of it and move on 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:34 PM
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This is also very true! It’s not about stopping ageing, it’s just about caring for your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:32 PM
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Thank you! That’s really good advice, I’ll make sure to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:22 PM
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I have no regrets, I didn’t want to date them then, and I don’t want to date them now that they’re older. Sexual liberation is about when and who to have sex with. It’s not so that women will just have sex with whom ever-that’s what guys have twisted it into. I don’t sleep around because that’s my choose and what I find empowering is the freedom to chose that. I don’t have sex outside of a relationship that’s committed and monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:21 PM
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There’s nothing empowering about casual sex. You know what the most empowering word is? No. I have turned sex and relationships down with very successful and wealthy guys in the past - I just can’t bring myself to fake physical attraction, if it’s not there it’s a dead end for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:11 PM
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Yeah I think this is a recipe for disaster. The women is always settling to a degree in exchange for whatever compensation she feels he provides her. Not for me, and often leads to cheating down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:08 PM
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Right, got you. The thing is it’s absolutely the same for me. You could be the nicest man in the world, but if I’m not attracted to you there’s nothing that will change that dead-end. And I mean physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:02 PM
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Yeah not for me, or a number of people. I’m not dating an ugly rich guy anymore than I’m dating a beautiful guy with an awful personality. Besides, I know from experience that successful men are absolutely looking for intelligence, drive, personality etc in a partner, if not they’d all be dating a vacuous trophy. Look at most highly successful men and they don’t date models, they’re dating equally Ivy League trained intelligent equals. I live in reality and I’m telling you my reality but you’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:59 PM
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Interesting, OLD must have swathes of data on this. It makes sense that the perceptions of being in your 30s has more of an impact than any concrete truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:50 PM
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Are you honestly saying you, when considering a woman, are only looking at her youth fertility and beauty as factors? Weird...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:47 PM
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Men lose their value too, if it weren’t the case you wouldn’t have devised an entire weird ideology to combat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:46 PM
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We are all anecdotes, and research and science is just categorised anecdotes. Your views are so limiting to young men and unfair to young women. Getting older is actually awesome, and believing it’s this negative thing correlated with “declining value” is so joyless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:41 PM
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This is such brainwashing. I’ve dated much more attractive and successful men in my 30s than I ever did in my 20s. Dating is actually fun, there wasn’t a lot of dating in my 20s, so this story you tell is not inalienable truth. Thank god for that too, because if I’d been dating the chads I’d be kicking myself now...with shame haha. The chads when I was a teen and in my 20s are largely washed up and have aged so so badly. I bumped into one when I visited a friend last year and he’s got 3 kids, ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:37 PM
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Yeah it’s a very rare person who looks better bald
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:29 PM
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The follicles stop responding to the hormones and the hormone levels change, but menopause is not brought on due to “running out of the eggs”. I’m still stuck on you saying Brad Pitt is still a heart throb 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:17 PM
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Women’s store of eggs declines each month because one egg on average is released per cycle, but we don’t run out. Here’s a post that explains this Omg have you seen photos of him or George Clooney? Definitely not heart throbs 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:09 PM
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Agree desperation is unattractive in everyone. I don’t think fertility issues are that widespread though? I can only speak anecdotally but I only know a few women who have actual medical issues with conception. I think it’s mostly societal pressure for some? I don’t feel it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:07 PM
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What is an alt account?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:05 PM
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It’s a great word. But no, that’s not what this is. You come across very condescending. I’m saying that I, as a beautiful woman, I have always been wary of men who only value or unduly prioritise this aspect of me. I have never dated a man who didn’t also find my intelligence and personality attractive. Any man who did not find my achievements added to my attractiveness as a partner, any man who did not value these equally, is not someone i would date. Does that mean I stop taking care of my loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:02 PM
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Twins. There are some good studies and shocking photos out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:58 PM
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I’ve had the same experience as a woman, which seems to contradict what you’re saying. I’ve had a far more active dating life in my 30s than I ever did in my 20s, and that’s mostly from real life not OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:57 PM
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Women don’t run out of eggs, we have more than we could possibility release in our cycles. Men also don’t look better as they age. It’s simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:55 PM
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This doesn’t explain all the plain women who are in relationships. Men don’t just value looks or they would also never cheat on beautiful women? I find this so condescending to men tbh, if all they care about is looks are they not also wanting intelligence, kindness, warmth etc? It’s so overly simplistic
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:53 PM
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Not by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:47 PM
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Men contribute most to congenital defects as their sperm ages, while a women’s eggs do not. In most developed countries a healthy woman can bear children well into her 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:47 PM
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You’re clearly very passionate about this, and great to see you’ve cited studies, I’ve not reviewed them so I can’t comment on their veracity/size or their datasets or biases etc, but I digress. My attraction to men deviates from the essence of what you’re saying. Further, my morals find it’s actually disturbing to see that teenage girls are considered peak attractiveness. This could open up a much larger conversation about the role of power dynamics in society in engendering specific sexual pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:45 PM
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Interesting. I think it’s a relevance issue. How my attractiveness is viewed by men who would not consider non-physical aspects of me important is irrelevant - they’re not guys I would date so they’re external to the equation. People age along with their dating peer group. Contrary to these weird tales I read on reddit, men are also not just dating on youth, beauty and fertility. The ones that want to usually can’t because they’re not those things themselves and past a point it’s creepy as hell,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:23 PM
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Science cannot fix old sperm hahaha omg...and women don’t run out of eggs. This is funny 😁 I don’t know where you live that you think plastic surgery is endemic, it’s not that prevalent worldwide. And often it’s tied more so to beauty standards pushed by media, which changes from decade to decade, than to any connection to actual NEED. Case and point being Botox in your teens and surgery for your sweet 16th or whatever. Bizarre. Women are and always have been more beautiful and we generally age …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:05 PM
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Wow, even the language of these weird ideologies is misogynistic. This is so incredibly weird honestly. I think sometimes it’s men trying to invent some weird rule book to make themselves believe young women want them, and to justify what is essentially grooming or age-gap normalisation. It’s all so icky. Old men who have left themselves go are not attractive no matter how much money they have. Sure, they might be able to get beautiful girlfriends, but it’s not for his look$. I could never overl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:58 PM
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Um, scars aren’t really attractive. How old are you? Because I’m struggling to keep a straight face reading that you think it’s not possible for a woman to be just if not more beautiful at 30 having gained confidence, financial success and life experience 🤣 Peak sexual attractiveness happens when we finish maturing physically which is around mid 20s. After that NEITHER men or women are as objectively attractive, but then again we’re not pinning for the past or trying to date in that same age bra…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:45 PM
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It’s looks, looks matter just as much to women. No amount of money can make me overlook an ugly face and an ugly heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:37 PM
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It’s so weird that men on here try to get all personal. I’ve had lots of men want to commit. I’ve not found someone I want commitment with, there’s a difference. Contrary to what some young men on here think, being in your 30s with money and a career and options and freedom is fantastic. Dating and men are fun, but not the centre of a successful woman’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:35 PM
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Wow, must be where you live. It’s not true where I am at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:32 PM
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In theory, and maybe true of some women, but I could never date someone who was unattractive to me, that would b me unfair to us both.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:31 PM
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Thousands (literally) or online profiles, and hundreds of men in my day-to-day make this observation true to my environment. Perhaps you live somewhere where that’s different, certainly some parts of the world have people who look younger overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:30 PM
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True! It must be horrible losing your hair...I can’t imagine. At least men can rock the shaved look!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:19 PM
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Hahaha what does that even mean? Is this the same 65 year old OLD who’s still “not sure what he wants”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:18 PM
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Thank you, I didn’t know that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:17 PM
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It’s also a fact that men will also never be as attractive as they were when they were younger 🤷🏼‍♀️ We all age, I don’t get why some guys on here seem to think this is news. I think perhaps a lot of them are rather young and maybe think this is a revelation. Healthy women can have babies well into their 40s. Recent research has discovered that most congenital defects in children born to older parents are caused by old sperm, due to corrupt DNA. A woman’s eggs don’t degrade this way, because we’…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:16 PM
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Hey! I want you to know this post is not about people going through health stuff, and I can commiserate how tough this must be for you! I just want people to understand that this “hitting the wall” concept is not some female exclusive course. At the same end of the day we’re doing the best with what we have. Just because you’re feeling down doesn’t mean you don’t deserve to look after yourself, go have a nice batch, eat some nourishing food, rest!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:03 PM
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Yeah people have. I don’t, and I feature makeup free pics too in natural light. Outcome is still the same. Guys look old.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:01 PM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:01 PM
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Interestingly it’s much wider that most people think. Your average healthy woman in a western country can have children well into her 40s. And what contributes most to congenital defects is the age of the father (specific his sperm) and not the age of the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:00 PM
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It’s actually a skilled trade, I couldn’t work that magic haha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:58 PM
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Valid point. Still, wear sunscreen! 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:55 PM
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I wouldn’t say it’s the most important, it’s equally important to other factors like goals, personality, morals etc, but if it’s missing it’s a no-go for me, so I don’t really agree with this beta theory. Plus, what I find attractive now has changed with me as I’ve become older.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:53 PM
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Money, career, mental health are just as important for women, in terms of living a life that is as easy as possible. No one wants to be struggling on minimum wage on the verge of a breakdown at 55
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:46 PM
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Oh for sure, and that’s tough. I guess we can all try to do the best with what we have right? Reminds me of that quote, there are no ugly people just poor people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:43 PM
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Confirmation bias is when you specifically seek only the information that agrees with your predetermined opinion. That sunblock and good lifestyle choices make a difference to the speed of ageing is a fact proven by extensive research. What you’re trying to do is use a personal anecdote based on a sample size of two people to disprove science. So you look young and she looks older, this doesn’t even address skin ageing, which is the whole point of this post, come back to me in 10 years and see w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:38 PM
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Hey, I’m absolutely aware of the intentions of a large swathe of men, and that’s not exclusive to age gap situations. I’ve mentioned elsewhere, but I am finding dating men who I’ve met in person through friends etc is definitely preferred. I think I’m not alone in expecting that I date someone who looks like a boyfriend not my dad 🤭 I find it quite weird that it’s often these same men who aren’t caring for their appearance who are shooting way above their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:00 PM
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That’s true, I tend to date more from men asking me out in real life, so that’s currently more successful. OLD is very odd, I definitely prefer when men approach in real life, and you know them or your friends do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:54 AM
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Moral is...wear sunblock! 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:37 AM
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I don’t use filters, I have makeup free pics on my profile too, although I agree on the bad photos
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:26 AM
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Oh no, they are 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:19 AM
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I mean, if you’re a normal person I’m sure you know and see real women in your day to day with no makeup so it’s not some new concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:16 AM
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Women are attracted to attractive men. Premature skin damage decreases attractiveness. The aim isn’t kpop “glass skin”, it’s age appropriate skin condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:57 AM
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Haha no, why would they? Unless I’m sick. Looking after your skin means it tends to look much the same with or without foundation, except for blending out the natural skin colour variables across different parts of the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:55 AM
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I’m talking your usual makeup - a light bb cream or light foundation etc. I don’t know anyone who does full professional level cover-up on the daily!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:45 AM
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If by wall you mean the age when your lifestyle becomes visible on your body - then men are hit by this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:44 AM
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Agree, genes definitely play a part!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:24 AM
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Which is a good reminder of why affordable childcare, parental leave for both parents, and flexible working for both parents is important. But this doesn’t explain pay disparity when no kids are involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:08 AM
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In their 30s and 40s this is most definitely not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 09:45 AM
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here’s a good resource with a recent report
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 09:45 AM
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How do you know? Did everyone you worked with share their pay? I’ve been in many situations where women realised they were earning considerably less for exactly the same work as their male colleagues (including hours), even in instances where they were more qualified or had worked there longer. They felt anger, hurt, and invalidation, and did not want to tell people. Here’s a good resource
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 09:41 AM
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Maybe up until your 20s but then...😂 I mean, most people into their 20s can wash with dish soap, survive on cheap vodka and cheetos and still look great.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 09:38 AM
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It’s not a myth. Men and women in exactly the same positions will earn different amounts, in countries with pay transparency this is well documented.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 09:31 AM
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Valid points except everything you said about pay disparity. There are many examples of equal work pay disparity which is not due to different experience etc. Companies will try to save money by paying women less on the assumption they are less likely to ask for equal pay. In instances that they do they are less likely to receive this pay increase. Interestingly there’s a lot of research into the phenomena of mediocre male management, which highlights that the characteristics that recruiters foc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 09:25 AM
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Western women aren’t a monolith, and there are intersectional nuances to your statement even if it were true. For the supposedly “most protected class of human” we’re sexually assaulted, raped, and murdered, underpaid for equal work at an astounding rate compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 09:11 AM
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I am talking about men who’s ages I do know, it’s not an exaggeration. Not sure where you’re getting that from. And I’m comparing my bare face to theirs. To be honest my skin texture doesn’t change at all either way
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 09:02 AM
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It’s also something I’ve noticed IRL. Literally no one is ever not shocked when they find out my age, and the older I get the older men my age look in comparison to me. I want to date a man who doesn’t look like my dad next to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:58 AM
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Valid, except that my anecdote is backed up by decades of legitimate scientific research into the direct damaging effects of UV rays on skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:56 AM
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Oh absolutely, agree that many labouring jobs which men work are tough on the skin. Can’t you wear a hat though? I guess you have to make the best of your situation. I wouldn’t expect a man to have skin like mine, in fact a bit rugged is attractive, but not so bad that you look like my dad next to me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:55 AM
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I’m talking about men between 30-50 here, trust me a bit of collagen and water isn’t saving these guys. I can tell their age from their dating profiles. I assume some lie but I doubt it’s an entirely statistically incorrect sample.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:51 AM
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Yay science! Now I’m craving some bone broth for that glycine!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:48 AM
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I have a career, and have a busy life. I still always have 5min for sunblock and moisturiser a day at the minimum. It’s an insignificant time investment for a considerable pay-off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:42 AM
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Actually, beyond actually damaging chemicals (which are banned from cosmetics in developed countries) makeup is safe. The “organic” makeup industry has been largely debunked as a scam. Men have thicker skin on their face, but I don’t know what if any connection there is between this and collagen or reaction to damage. I can tell you that guys my age look way older and quite haggard the majority of the time. I have worn makeup up since my teens, not everyday, but no issues. I always clean it off …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:39 AM
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I don’t see it. Chemicals are everywhere. It’s not like there’s lead in makeup these days. I’ve not known a woman who’s had damage from moderate makeup use. Sun damage? Definitely yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:35 AM
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Sometime yes, but I wear sunblock under my foundation, because it’s usually only about 15spf
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:17 AM
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Hahah oh you’re fun. Edit: I don’t think you’re aware of what OLD is like for women. I’m inundated with matches from men 20-50. I’m not interested in most of them, but it’s far from what you’re guessing ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:59 AM
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Eww.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:53 AM
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It’s so bizarre...Like, we all like beauty and style. If I bring it I expect they do too, dating ain’t charity 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:44 AM
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This post isn’t really for MGTOW, so you do you boo! I will never understand how people don’t care for their skin. Also weird age-fetishists. I consider it’s projection, it must be awful and exhausting considering ageing (yours and others) as unnatural or gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:34 AM
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I have sister who is 3 years younger and is always picked as the older one, so it’s not all genetics. Seriously, that sunblock song was a god-damn gift 🎁
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:20 AM
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No, this is without makeup. I have hardly ever met a man my age with skin like mine
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:18 AM
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It’s disappointing. Give me someone who loves me and genuinely cares about my pleasure within a monogamous relationship. I’ll pass otherwise, would rather spend the time on hobbies, with friends, or like, sleeping to make sure my skin looks good 💅🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:11 PM
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This might be true initially but doesn’t account for the fact that many men “settle” for these ‘easy’ women (by which I assume you mean women with less particular standards) AFTER they tried and failed to get with or maintain a relationship with a woman who has higher standards (because often it’s because she can expect more because she herself also meets her own standards re: looks career and personality). These men are not happy settling for the women with lower standards, because they know it…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 09:16 PM
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I mean, I do both 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:42 AM
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This is wrong. Melanin protects from sun damage/skin cell DNA damage. The darker you are the more innate sun protection you have. For a fair (haha pun) comparison if you subjected a black south-Saharan woman and a fair South Korean woman to the same sun rays over decades the Korean lady will have much more sun damage, wrinkles, spots etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:34 AM
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This is the answer. Sun, smoke, drugs, being underweight, stress and poor diet are all terrible for the skin/looking youthful. Eat like trash, never wear sunblock, stressed and partying it up? You’re gonna have a bad time in your 30s and onwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:30 AM
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Sociopaths can be women, yes, but statistically they’re far more likely to be men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:40 AM
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I can promise you most of the men swiping right on me are way way uglier than me. It was actually scary when I saw it in paid premium. And I’m not even talking average but unkept, I’m talking actually unfortunate looking/shocking profiles
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:36 AM
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Sociopaths are careful selectors, read some psychology. They’re also master manipulators, and carefully engender indebtedness and usually induce Münchausen syndrome. You’re not really grasping any of these nuances in your statement. Even if a woman did pursue toxic men it’s STILL no excuse for a man raping or sexually assaulting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:17 AM
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Your use of hateful language is telling. Women are 20% or less of the OLD population, because the men put in so little effort in it’s largely not even worth it. The problem is men doing the same thing and expecting a different result, while growing increasingly hateful and resentful. It’s like people who refuse to work because job hunting is competitive and hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 10:50 PM
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I’ve actually run an experiment with a very basic guys photos and it worked. Have you tried it? How are your text and in person conversation skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:47 PM
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I’ve actually run an experiment with a very basic guys photos and it worked. Have you tried it? How are your text and in person conversation skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:45 PM
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You need to broaden your social circle and the kinds of women and men you spend time with. Maybe you’re just really young and haven’t done that yet. There are so many women with diverse hobbies and no time for social media
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:42 PM
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Now I’m hungry for sweet potatoes hahah
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 12:03 PM
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No actually. I’ve never jumped from one relationship to the other. I take big breaks to get myself in the right place. Like, years. Also if that were true all my bf would be increasingly more good looking, which is also not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 12:03 PM
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You can at least be a washed ugly potato, not every dish requires cute new-season spuds 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 12:00 PM
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If I was attracted to him. I have exes that are definitely potatoes, but I saw something in them then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:53 AM
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That’s all fair, I don’t disagree. But if I had to chose I’d still say it’s better to have a posed picture with makeup on than some grainy photo taken from crotch angle of your chin and tongue sticking out while you also do the fingers. Everyone needs to be honest but also try a little more than a potato. At least try be a washed and cute potato
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:39 AM
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In a post I made they told me to go steal a married man because that’s the best approach, and said they’d been married for 20 years. Plus the name. I’m betting it’s a troll
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:18 AM
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Your name is literally gimpgirl....I am fairly sure you’re a troll account. You commented on another post that you’ve been married for 20 years, why not just ask your husband? Why do the opinions of random men make any difference to your marriage? So bizarre
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:16 AM
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All of them, was like 5 women. I had a guy friend who said he’d never succeed online cos of his looks so I did the social experiment for a few days. Felt obviously misleading after that so I deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 10:18 AM
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Funny you say that. Ages back I actually did this on a dare and I still got women talking to me, picture I used was just your average 5/10 dude
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 10:15 AM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 08:05 AM
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Yes, yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 06:10 AM
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Valid point. That’s likely an extension of the social media double life
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 06:10 AM
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I’m referring to well before you’re dating, I wouldn’t date someone I didn’t trust. But trust needs to be maintained, it’s not just “issue and forget”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 06:09 AM
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I agree completely, more men need to ask women out IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 06:07 AM
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Re: your views I completely disagree with the whole “Chad” rubbish. Men hugely underestimate how important character and personality are, and believing in the Chad reigning all just makes them so bitter and sincerely awful. There will always be someone better looking, richer, and more liked that you or me. Get over it and try and be the best version of yourself, on the inside too. I understand that as someone who’s not ugly I’m privileged. But I’m also definitely not a 10/10 and I’m definitely n…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 06:05 AM
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Interesting. What if he says something appealing to you in the bio?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:50 AM
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That’s probably true. But this will probably be more helpful for the average man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:48 AM
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Oh hell no, it’s not intuition. People seem to think it’s hard, but it’s really easy. Watch to see if their actions match their words, and don’t trust their words.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:46 AM
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I do realise the trash comment was mean, apologies. I was referring more to what the men offered than the men themselves, but I digress. I also think men should be less active online and actually ask us out in real life. But I don’t think that is going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:45 AM
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I agree with you, except that the woman with no photos is probably being messages for sex. I’m looking for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:43 AM
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I’m not after respect from random strangers. If you don’t agree with my opinion that’s cool. Perhaps you’re not aware, but an attractive woman is literally incapable of talking to all her matches. It numbers in the thousands a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:33 AM
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I’m not sure what you’re talking about here. Two matches might indicate a need to revamp that profile, and not right swipe on everyone (it messes up your elo score because the app thinks you’re a bot). Average is average. But then again, if that’s what you are you can’t expect better. I don’t think people should ask for things they don’t offset with what they bring to the table
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:30 AM
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I don’t see all the men who’ve liked me, bumble just tells me who has to try to get me to pay for premium. But, since you’re curious, years ago I was given free tinder plus and had something like 3000 likes in a week. All but maybe a few hundred were very quick and easy left swipes because they were way too young or way too old, visually repulsive to me (like, incredibly unfortunate looking, massively obese, missing teeth, tattoos on their face), or had other clear non-negotiables (smoker, drugs…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:24 AM
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I guess not, and that’s logical if what you’re after is the average/statistical mean. But like...have you seen people? I would not recommend the average mean to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:03 AM
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Have you tried to improve your OLD profile, or any other approach? What have you found worked best for you in finding a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:02 AM
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How do you approach your OLD profile? What has worked for you? Yes, I’m one woman, but this is a very very commonly held opinion and experienced by practically every woman I’ve spoken to. I have never once heard women say that the quality of men’s profiles are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:00 AM
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What do you like in women’s profiles?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:58 AM
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It’s a fairly common perception of male profiles OLD. I honestly think if men listened and respected women’s views on this it would be win-win. I only expect the same effort in life and love as what I provide and invest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:58 AM
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Try it, try pick well lit honest photos, that show your personality and lifestyle, and a genuine bio about who your are and what you’re after and report back.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:55 AM
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I don’t want a guy who’s hot, I’m happy as long as he’s a good person and pleasant looking. Your tone in your messages comes across really preachy, and you’re definitely quite fixed in your views. Cool. Doesn’t change the fact that men’s OLD profiles are objectively awful. As another poster commenter, the ratio of men to women on tinder is something staggering like 8:2. I guarantee you if the men’s effort on their profiles wasn’t so underwhelming more women would try OLD out. It would be smarter…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:52 AM
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Ooof it’s tough for sure. I meet men IRL too, but it’s certainly interesting to peek into the online world
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:43 AM
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That’s not a good profile. A good approach is to include a statement about what you’re after (just fun, a relationship, a connection), mention 2-3 character traits to help determine compatibility and maybe something to show your humour or a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:40 AM
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Because Bumble tells you how many people are in your “Beeline” to try yo convince you to get premium
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:38 AM
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Haha oh this too. I can understand that they want to show they’re a good provider, and also likely take so few photos that this may be the last pic a friend took of them, but it is very very cliché
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:37 AM
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That’s a lot of overthinking for a two or three sentence write up that takes 3 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:34 AM
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You can try, but I pick up liars pretty easily, and move on. Seems a bad tactic to getting a quality woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:29 AM
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You’re not going to learn anything about a different perspective when you try to tell people how they feel or think. I used to model. I have a post-graduate degree and a career, I have my own money. When I tell you I left swipe “hot” guys with bad bios, trust me it’s true. I have zero interest in being with a hot idiot. Do some woman make mistakes and get swayed by attraction and disregard character? Sure, just the same way men do. That’s not a fairytale ending for either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:28 AM
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Maybe try men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:24 AM
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Well, if it takes hours for you to take a decent photo, my sincere condolences ✌🏼✌🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:23 AM
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No, they’re different. I got 100 awful matches hahaha, maybe 10 are bringing to the table something on par to what I bring. I’m not starving, I don’t eat trash 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:21 AM
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I mean, you kinda need women for the hookups, customer satisfaction matters 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:20 AM
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Haha oh you charmer you. You’re assuming the bar is VERY high. Simple honest photos taken from a normal angle with your hair done are perfect. Maybe a photo with friends, and an action or hobby photo, and a short genuine bio. Basic, simple. You sound bitter as!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:14 AM
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Honestly I always assume that an empty profile means they’re lazy or looking just to hook up. Easy left swipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:10 AM
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Hahah this is so far from the truth. A profile is an opportunity to share information about yourself that will help determine if you’re even a little compatible. Chatting, calls and Meeting IRL all help to weed out the liars. We’re very good at this generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:08 AM
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I’m after substance, couldn’t care less if you were Michelangelo if you have the intelligence and character of a potato 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:05 AM
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Not always, and I do always read bios. No bio? Instant left bin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:03 AM
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Omg 25 matches is good?... The female experience is so different. I’ve just jumped back on after a looooong break and had 100+ matches in an hour. I would have left swiped on the hot guy in this video. He looks arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:02 AM
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Haha true, but not in the way you think. I will left swipe in a fraction of a second on a hot guy with a shitty profile, and right swipe on a guy with a decent profile as long as he’s not repulsive to me. I’m attractive, I’ll likely be hotter than most guys. I’m wanting substance too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 03:56 AM
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Sometimes, sometimes more. I pick up dealbreakers usually by date three or four
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:53 PM
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Lack of physical attraction, different morals or life goals, looking for different things in a relationship, addiction or abusive behaviour etc etc there are lots of ways
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:40 PM
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Has worked for me so far, I’ve never wasted time in a dead end relationship or had to kiss too many frogs 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:29 PM
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Meaning I tell men I don’t see anything romantic between us as soon as I feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:28 PM
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I wouldn’t, my time and affection is worth more that any resources I’d get from stringing men along. I’ve always been honest and direct.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:47 PM
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Oh it’s a good thing trust me! I’m glad that the relationship ended.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:46 PM
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I agree, I’m not saying that I would jump in bed with one guy while withholding it from another. Ideally I’m dating PLATONICALLY until I find someone who’s personality and looks and character make me want to rip his pants off, and if he wants to be in a relationship with me, then it’s game on!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:58 AM
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No I have pretty grounded expectations, I’ve only been single for a bit, and only opened up to dating in the last year. It’s actually surprisingly hard for women when you’re not partying and most of the people you know are married with married friends 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 01:48 PM
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Some, but not many. And I’m not sure what it’s like where you live, people don’t bring around all their friends to work or social events, it tends to be pretty close-house. What’s your opinion on my initial post?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 10:17 AM
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I mean I don’t go to random bars or parties where I’d meet a lot of single men. I socialize with fiends and colleagues, go to events, dinners, drinks, dates etc. But when most of the people you know aren’t single it narrows things down quite a bit!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:47 AM
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I’ve found this to be very true recently when I’ve been honest about what I’m after, and men have done exactly that rather than try string me along.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:38 AM
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I am extroverted, but I love time to myself too and spend a lot of time alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:37 AM
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No I’m not after a Chad. I don’t go out partying, work in a male dominated field, most men I work with are married, and I don’t online date. I realise this is not ideal, baby steps though 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:35 AM
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Haha 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:30 AM
2

Yes, the ones I asked out were more shy, less cocky and extroverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:29 AM
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No, most men I’ve dated men were uglier than me,and some were shorter than me. I still found them sexy in their own way at the time, yes. I don’t find any of my exes attractive anymore, emotion is a big factor in what I find attractive so our past makes that impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:26 AM
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Perhaps then my issue was in dating the wrong people rather than who asked who. Will think about it, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:20 AM
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Honestly I have really down to earth standards if what you mean is looks. What’s hard is finding someone at the same stage in their life who wants the same thing with you, and you with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:19 AM
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Neither so far have worked if you consider success a lasting relationship/marriage. Since I stopped asking I’ve had less dates, likely also correlates with me quitting online dating, but still get asked out about once a month. They weren’t after a relationship though, I get a feeling they just thought I was fun, and most were only recently single. Most of the men I’ve been in a relationship initiated the relationship but rushed the getting to know each other part before commitment, which I would…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:08 AM
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Yes, I do. I was referring to your advice to steal another man. I don’t want a man that can be stolen, and that goes against my morals anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:31 AM
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Haha just trying to use the lingo. I’m lonely but otherwise fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:14 AM
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I’m flattered by your assumptions - but my ex boyfriends were definitely not all tall handsome chads 😅 Thanks for the advice!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 05:54 AM
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This is terrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 05:48 AM
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True! But if I’m lukewarm about a man I’m not going to string him along for some D. Same can’t be said with as much confidence in the inverse! 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:40 AM
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I agree with you. Although in your scenario, well I’ve never met a man who splashes massively on a one night stand, he’s more likely to do that with the “wife material” woman that he wants to date. Just the same way that most woman who have one night stands don’t really mean for them to be one-offs, they’re usually naive about the man’s interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:24 AM
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No. One is consistent sex AND consistent abstinence with two different people, the other (in my experience) was sex with one person when not seeing anyone else, thinking it would lead somewhere but it didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 01:00 AM
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So I guess it works both ways. If a man is really interested he’ll want to see me a lot, which means in a month or two that’s a whole lot of quality time with which I can decide whether I trust him enough to rip his pants off 😈
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:56 AM
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How old are you? If I only went on three dates with a guy in a few months I would assume he wasn’t that interested and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 07:48 PM
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I’m not meaning months on end in a LTR, I’m meaning a month or two when you’ve just met each other and are dating
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 07:36 PM
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No, that’s way too much of a clear-cut dichotomy. One woman’s buck is another woman’s beta. And many many of us find overpowering alpha traits and not beta traits a massive red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 11:08 PM
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This is such a narrow viewpoint, and none of these people (man or woman) sound like good people to be in a relationship with. It sounds like a heartbreaking reality for everyone. For women 30+ who have higher education, an established career, and their own resources, settling is less likely. Again, everyone’s appetite for “settling” differs, and is aligned to how they prioritise and assign values.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:40 PM
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Right, thanks for clarifying. If I found someone I loved and wanted a relationship with it’s because they make me feel loved and safe and cared for. With a man like that I’m going to have better sex because I’ll feel safer to be more adventurous and vulnerable. I don’t deny that men and women often settle in order to not be alone - for women this may mean someone who provides but they’re not attracted to. I could never do this but it happens. There are plenty of people who WON’T settle but still…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:26 PM
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Sure, but I personally don’t. Seems like a lot of emotional labour to still end up sexually and emotionally dissatisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 09:14 PM
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I don’t. I’m angling for accepting that we ALL treat people we’re attracted to differently, and it’s unreasonable to ask otherwise (beyond basic respect and decency).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 09:13 PM
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I didn’t say that. It’s not a “shit test”. I’m highlighting the paradox that men understand very well that they treat women differently depending on how attractive they find her, yet complain when women do exactly the same. And to be honest I think everyone wants a prudish whore in that they’re restrained with everyone but sexually liberated with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 09:10 PM
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That’s true ☝🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 08:35 PM
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Thank you this is such a thoughtful and helpful response! It actually does make a lot of sense. In terms of a noble lie I wouldn’t need to even lie. I’m apt to simply say I’m insanely attracted you you, but I’m worried we’re not after the same thing in a relationship, we’re not exclusive and I don’t want to get hurt/get an std.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 08:27 PM
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Oh yes it was on reddit! I actually deleted my post over the response.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:55 AM
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Do you ask them how many people they’ve slept with? If so when?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:35 AM
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What’s building up?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:33 AM
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Everyone should absolutely!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:58 AM
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Thanks for the article. I also skimmed through the study itself. I think this study and Gotlieb’s article is a starting point, but it contains a lot of gaps. Emotional labour and childcare was not included, the data is very old, a lot has changed since 1992. I think this article summarised some of the main issues and poses solutions https://daily.jstor.org/housework-gender-roles-sex/ Some other issues - I make an assumption that the marriage is otherwise a good match, with sexual attraction etc.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:41 PM
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It is not entitled to want equal opportunity and choice, it’s right. No women on this earth respects her partner less if he does more childcare and housekeeping - it’s proven to be the opposite. In households with a fairer share of duties couples report healthier relationships and more frequent and food quality sex. Women do not consider housework and childcare women’s work - it’s part of being a family, and this takes team work. By all means, there are women who do want a traditional home and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 04:24 PM
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Thank you! ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 04:13 PM
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Those in free societies are usually hedonistic in their youth, male or female. Hedonism beyond youth is more socially accepted in men (boys will be boys, it’s just a bit of fun, the man cave, boys nights, give him space, he needs his hobbies, he’s got plenty of time to settle down).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 04:12 PM
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Right, gotcha. Well, people like that will struggle to be part of society and be accepted by anyone - unless they’re the Uber rich? I don’t think it accounts for many women. And being fully self-centred and hedonistic usually has a very short and sobering shelf-life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 03:20 PM
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Women have for most of history played a background role to men, their roles and lives were entirely about duty to men. Women were not considered full people in the law, could not own property, have careers, vote. They were actively kept away from public and political discourse, which was a male only sphere. What’s happening now is that women are becoming more empowered to say “no”, to choose whether they want to be a housewife or mother or single or a nomad or whatever. They have more rights to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 03:01 PM
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For sure! If a woman isn’t treating you right or giving you attention don’t be toxic, keep moving! Same applies for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 01:20 PM
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Valid assumption - but incorrect. I know some amazing charismatic powerful interesting women who are successful in love without being beautiful. I’ve also been through an ugly phase and still held my standards. Irrespective of how objectively attractive a woman is, it’s never a good idea to give more than you get - I think this is what you mean by women who are “nice and kind”. I don’t put myself off-balance for anyone, I have boundaries, and I say “no” if it’s in my best interest. It’s quality …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 12:35 PM
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I’ve found my perfect formula has been being intelligent, hot, and kind to MYSELF. Thirsty guys can thirst, but unless they meet my standards I’m happier single. I’m interesting, take care of myself, and have a huge heart for people who have proven themselves. It’s not arrogance if it’s true. And what men think is “cruel” is normally just a woman with clear boundaries. Neither extreme example you’ve given is the most “profitable”. You know what pays? Hard self reflection and growth, iron-clad se…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 12:17 PM
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Attractiveness is largely objective, a good looking persons is good looking to most people. Applies less to “odd” less conventional beauty, but when people say this it’s mostly a cope. Now chemistry, that shit is unpredictable!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 09:56 AM
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One boundary I’m working on is to be selective of friendships too. Just because you see the good in someone doesn’t mean they do or want to change.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/06/21 02:34 AM
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