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Status is undefined in the typical one-on-one pickup situation. There is only the balance of power between you and the girl, and the implied status* that she can glean from your behavior. Of course any interactions she sees you having with others can affect that perception, but often there aren't any such interactions in an initial pickup. *Note that many of the high school and college status signs do not carry over into general life, which is why there are the Al Bundy's of the world. The confi…
/r/seduction19/11/16 02:54 AM
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Practice. There are many other girls. Getting fixated on one you've never met never works.
/r/seduction19/11/16 02:40 AM
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A lot depends on what problems you have. Are you asocial? Are you social but can't move things to the sexual level? Are you too analytical, too silly, too boring, or too closed off? Do you socialize well in normal "societally approved" conditions but can't do something like a street approach? Do you have problems keeping girls around? Do you have self-esteem issues or other inner game problems?
/r/seduction19/11/16 02:34 AM
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Here's the one thing that has never failed to give me a great night out at a club or bar by myself: From the moment you enter (or even before you enter, if applicable) never not be talking to someone. Talk to the very first person you see who looks at all available, and then as soon as you stop talking to that person immediately find someone else. Doesn't matter young/old, guy/girl, pretty/ugly, staff/customer. Never not be talking to someone. Not for more than a few seconds at most. This does a…
/r/seduction19/11/16 02:22 AM
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Definitely don't call her boss. Even if she isn't pissed off or creeped out, the impulse to go to extreme measures like that is based on a scarcity mindset. You have learned to do this kind of approach now so you will be able to have a lot of chances in the future with hotter girls and better situations. You might run into the girl again, but it is better to assume you'll never see her again. Go do this many more times and also learn new ways to create such interactions and new places to do it. …
/r/seduction19/11/16 02:05 AM
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Creativity is what happens naturally when you are comfortable enough around women to see the basic fun aspect of it all. Essentially most of the advice here is about how to be comfortable around women, or how to compensate for not being comfortable around women.
/r/seduction19/11/16 01:57 AM
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The great thing in this one is he didn't use any words. That really helps circumvent the social autopilot and make her feel something unique is happening.
/r/seduction18/11/16 07:44 AM
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Exactly. This was accidentally perfect.
/r/seduction17/11/16 11:47 PM
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If mail isn't working, the problem isn't the mail, it's how you acted when you met them. Get better and you will find the women react much better when you message them. Worrying about the details of messaging is a trap; just keep it brief and content-free, and invite them immediately or very soon.
/r/seduction17/11/16 11:45 PM
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2 is best. Plenty of the girls will want relationships if you want them, and by sheer volume of girls you are much more likely to find the ones who are very high drive and really want you. Then you can move to #1 if there is a great girl who is sufficient all by herself.
/r/seduction17/11/16 11:41 PM
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You did great, faces being close means it can go sexual easily. Too bad about Professor Cockblock, but next time she is alone maybe you can do it again, this time get her contact info or see what she's doing after class. If not, there are many more girls.
/r/seduction17/11/16 11:37 PM
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Little by little. Drink, talk to everyone, hold eye contact with everyone, smile, etc. The same stuff that works for getting into state (see my comment history).
/r/seduction17/11/16 11:34 PM
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Smiling, high-fiving, throwaway "hi," progression to sensuous/sexual eye contact, fun stuff like making silly faces if she holds EC. Whatever strikes your fancy at the time. Choosing a target-rich environment really helps since you have a ton of throwaways. If any of these hit, opening becomes a whole lot easier - she may even open you. In some cases it becomes more awkward not to say something. Master EC and approaches become something that just happens; you may not even be aware you're doing i…
/r/seduction17/11/16 11:30 PM
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Solid article. The techniques mentioned must be sort of universal as they are exactly the same way I overcame approach anxiety: don't think even one single thought (this circumvents every hesitation process; if you accidentally think a thought on your way to a girl, abort (if there are enough targets; if targets are rare just fill your head with something else, like play a puzzle game on your phone until you close the distance)) use alcohol (not necessarily on the day, just drink substantial amo…
/r/seduction17/11/16 11:04 PM
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Some terrible singing itself doesn't matter at all. It's entirely what you make of it. The only person that can make her care that you sang badly is you, by acting like it was anything. Confident people have embarrassing moments, too, they just forget them immediately and assume everyone else has, too (which they usually do). Though if you sang badly and acted all embarrassed about it in front of her already, it could be too late. Next time, next girl just remember it's all in how YOU take it. Y…
/r/seduction17/11/16 10:52 PM
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You say you don't drink. Why don't you drink? This is what alcohol was designed for.
/r/seduction14/11/16 01:04 PM
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Two words: stalled out. Seen the pattern so many times in newbies, even in posts here. Got to strike while the iron is hot. There will be more girls. Maybe after you get them you can circle back for her.
/r/seduction14/11/16 01:02 PM
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Be natural and direct, but not with words. Consider that simply approaching defaults to coming off as direct, especially when you are interested and not trying to put on an act. It's only when you deliberately try to play it down or try to (figuratively) wave your hands to show lack of sexual interest that you end up just looking like you're randomly conversing. Or when you act not real; then she has no idea what you're about and will tend to assume the worst, or at least not sexual.
/r/seduction14/11/16 12:59 PM
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Drink.
/r/seduction14/11/16 12:54 PM
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It's a "shit test," though I find that term wildly overdone. It just means she is effectively saying, "If you can give me a good response to this reservation I have, I'll do it and I will be mroe attracted as well. If not, it was a good screen." (Response doesn't have to mean a verbal reply.) In this case, she wanted the feeling of being with a mature guy who has his life together. If you had time you could have told her a story that demonstrated that quality in you. Or just meditate and cut the…
/r/seduction14/11/16 12:46 PM
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Wants orbiter, or is horny and having second thoughts.
/r/seduction14/11/16 12:43 PM
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Don't ask questions that it is a chore to answer, like, "How is your night?" Same with questions about her job (who wants to be reminded of work?). This stuff leads nowhere interesting, or even if it does she will be expecting it not to. Something dumb like, "What are you drinking?" is far better: it's not fun or creative, but it has an easy answer and is about something enjoyable (drinking), plus it can easily lead to more chatting - "oh I like black russians too, ever tried a B52?" The idea is…
/r/seduction14/11/16 12:38 PM
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Don't get too close before you escalate, or she will find it weird.
/r/seduction14/11/16 12:34 PM
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Strike up a convo, saying it's your last day (if you want to), talk for a minute or two, then say you gotta go but do you wanna get drinks sometime (or whatever). What exactly is the difficulty you're having?
/r/seduction14/11/16 12:33 PM
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I've noticed many of the same things. Meditation has been key. Happiness has to be for no reason first, or else it will always be contingent on things and people (a.k.a., neediness).
/r/seduction13/11/16 12:49 AM
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What do you want the end result to be on that day? Sex? Or she leaves having gotten to know you a bit and hungry to see more? Plan accordingly. If sex is the goal, and I suggest it be so, make sure you have a plan for getting her to your place, condoms ready, room arranged, way of suggesting the bounce, and whether you will escalate to makeout before or after the bounce. Doesn't matter afternoon or evening, as long as she isn't planning anything the rest of the day (often a lunch date can end wh…
/r/seduction13/11/16 12:42 AM
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Practice is important, and generally chemistry is more important than looks if your goal is hot sex and a fun relationship. Don't be like the kid who only eats one food. You gotta try things to know what you're missing. Women can be great in so many different ways than just raw model-like perfection, though that is a nice one to have. Most guys also have no clue what a 9 or 10 is until they have been with quite a variety of women, just like a kid who eats only vanilla ice cream can't know what h…
/r/seduction13/11/16 12:35 AM
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Depends on whether you want an instadate or a #close. If instadate, move it to a sensual topic or escalate the EC (and kino if you want), bounce, kiss, home. If a #close, just leave it to suggestive eye contact (sensual topic optional), get the number fast and disappear.
/r/seduction13/11/16 12:27 AM
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Move to sensual topic, triangular gaze, kiss. Sensual topic means music, art, food taste, etc. If you can't do a kiss there, ask her if she wants to go to X location where you can. Or just be like, "Oh shit, gotta run. Nice talking to you." Then surprise "oh wait" last-minute number close.
/r/seduction13/11/16 12:23 AM
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Not weird in modern society, with a carb-heavy diet, a lot of analysis, etc. In certain people, this pattern of modern living makes for more focus on the communicative aspects of sensual interactions, which is excellent for pair bonding. Just note that if you are trying to keep it no-strings-attached, she may get some mixed messages from that (as biologically the system you are accessing here is designed mainly for pair bonding), so compensate accordingly. It can be hard to walk the line and try…
/r/seduction13/11/16 12:18 AM
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For the first two, all you need is eye contact skill. Vurnerable is the wrong word; warm and affable is better, and that can all be in the eyes (and voice, and kino). Same with sexual intent, which only trips societal sensors if done at the wrong time, without proper escalation to it (in EC this might only take 2 seconds in some cases), or is laid on too thick. For the third, be "stoic"/chill but throw in one funny thing with big warm smile at some point in a 2-3 minute interaction (or just smil…
/r/seduction13/11/16 12:08 AM
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I think you just need to chill and realize chicks be diggin' the wizard. You get anger spikes because you're in denial. Get used to it. Take the prize. They are pushing so hard because you are in denial so they have to. Go with it.
/r/seduction11/11/16 10:39 PM
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Sounds like a situation where the BF is controlling and she is being bold because she feels like it balances it out. Could do it, but it is risky. Why bother? Instead just let her lust for you drive your confidence with pickup elsewhere. If you don't learn to get girls outside "where you eat" anyway it's not going to be sustainable fun, just a fling - that may even get you in some trouble.
/r/seduction11/11/16 10:36 PM
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Drink a moderate amount of alcohol (a few drinks, not sloppy), dress well, go out to a place with many hot women, walk past women in a positioning that would allow you to interact if they wanted to, try to get eye contact. If you get eye contact, smile. If they smile back, say, "Hi!" Or whatever. Then if they respond well, stop walking and continue the conversation by saying whatever else comes to mind, doesn't really matter. You can do only eye contact and smiles for weeks before you ever actua…
/r/seduction11/11/16 10:30 PM
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True indeed. A lot of guys do all these pickup tricks to be able to approach even though their stomach is in knots, which is pointless. On the other hand, talking to people really isn't a big deal and doesn't take any kind of immense special confidence, just being comfortable with the situation and not analyzing things. I don't think the old "feel the fear and do it anyway" is good advice. It's a recipe for developing an "ugh field" around approaching, which really isn't a weird thing to do. In …
/r/seduction11/11/16 10:21 PM
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Do the action movie hero test. If Arnold would cry, go for it. If not, don't. Girls hate a crybaby who cries over trifles, because they know for sure at that moment that you won't be solid if they get emotional; this can kill attraction instantly.
/r/seduction11/11/16 10:18 PM
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Faster lays than the girl is used to get the Cialdinian consistency principle working for you, which can really help, but it isn't necessary. Do what you enjoy.
/r/seduction11/11/16 10:16 PM
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Unless you get 9s often, sounds like a good opportunity to train a virgin. If she is a terrible kisser, she must have some hangup that can often be resolved by talking about it.
/r/seduction11/11/16 10:13 PM
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Neediness is by definition needing someone else in order to feel happy or complete. Instead, learn how to feel happy and complete with nothing, just existing. If you can't do that, seduction is pointless anyway, as you WILL be needy and it will eventually fall apart because either the girls will sense it or they will be unable to notice it because they're even needier than you are (which will fall apart just the same, you will drag each other down). Feeling happy is a choice you make. Meditate o…
/r/seduction11/11/16 09:57 PM
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Practice makes perfect, and quantity begets quality - so yes. But let it be someone you can find at least somewhat attractive in whatever small way. (Maybe she has cute eyes but face as a whole is not working for you - nice hair, a sexy attitude, a freak in bed (can't know until you try...just make sure she is cool with no strings attached), etc.) Otherwise she may just reject you because she can tell you're not interested.
/r/seduction11/11/16 09:52 PM
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It'd be weird to just walk up to her and expect a number on that account alone. However, just like any other pickup, you can talk to her for a few minutes and get the number like others are suggesting. Thinking there's something special about it, other than maybe you can mention it - but probably don't even bother - is a newbie error. It's just another girl.
/r/seduction11/11/16 09:50 PM
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It can. You'll learn to read signs with practice. What kind of eye contact did she give when she said it?
/r/seduction11/11/16 09:48 PM
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If you actually changed all that are getting the same results, it can only be because you're overthinking it. Time to stop thinking, stop trying to "do pickup." Just go out and enjoy yourself, be social, no thoughts. In a few weeks you might be ready to accidentally fall into some approaches that you didn't notice you were even doing. Then you're ready. Pickup shouldn't feel like pickup. Either that or you need serious inner game work. Of course you can cry (not in front of chicks though). Learn…
/r/seduction11/11/16 09:44 PM
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A high number close rate isn't meaningful without knowing the day2 rate and the lay rate from those numbers.
/r/seduction03/11/16 11:11 PM
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Maybe it's just the country where I am, but I have no trouble telling whether a girl is attracted within the first 3 seconds. I'm kind of bewildered how girls can hide their attraction; or maybe you just need to learn to discern attraction from general niceness?
/r/seduction03/11/16 11:09 PM
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There are several paths: 1) Pure physical escalation: increasing touching, then makeout, bounce to sex location, then sex. Each little increase has to be timed carefully and is contingent upon her accepting the previous one. 2) Pure eye contact escalation while talking about something normal, then makeout, bounce to sex location, then sex. 3) Verbal seduction (sensual and/or sexual topic, or NLP if you're into that), coupled with eye contact, then makeout, bounce, sex. *the makeout can be after …
/r/seduction03/11/16 11:00 PM
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This is correct. Mail game can seem to help, because you will get more meets than otherwise, but with girls who are only borderline attracted. Deliberately make your mails simple, like first mail is, "Wanna hang out tomorrow?" If you did well in the interaction she will go with it, and if you didn't she will probably not. Good screen. Don't waste your time, money, and energy. Don't build bad habits and bad associations. Make mail dumb so you are forced to master the actual pickup.
/r/seduction03/11/16 10:52 PM
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This is a great exercise for anyone who relies on smiles to smooth everything over, especially non-genuine smiles. Learn to be affable without smiling, then when you smile it will be genuine. On the other hand, some people really need to learn to smile because they are out of touch with "joy for no reason" and end up too serious or sad-sackish. Depends on the person.
/r/seduction03/11/16 10:44 PM
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A-l-c-o-h-o-l. Not a joke. This substance has been extremely popular throughout the ages for several reasons, and this is one. Drinking substantial amounts (solidly buzzed, but not sloppy drunk) 3x per week does wonders for the logical, calculating mindset. You don't have to drink when approaching, though that also helps at first. It's just a periodic "unstickying" that lets your mind stop seeing everything so rigidly. Don't let it be a crutch of course, and stay hydrated.
/r/seduction03/11/16 10:38 PM
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Of course, if they make friendly eye contact it's a natural thing to do. Or you can do things within the eye contact itself besides smiling. There's a lot of communication that can be done with just eyes over the couple of seconds she is in your visual field, if you can hold her interest and escalate.
/r/seduction03/11/16 10:35 PM
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A lot of good stuff in here. Telling a girl you're attracted to her in words is the autistic way and triggers all her insecurities and red flags, the usual subtle way is with your eyes and your demeanor.
/r/seduction03/11/16 10:31 PM
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If you really cannot have sex, then makeout and future projection.
/r/seduction03/11/16 10:22 PM
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Sexual eye contact, proximity, kino.
/r/seduction03/11/16 10:21 PM
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I don't know any resources, but an interesting thing I've found is to imagine making out with women you walk by, if they hold eye contact. Kind of a mini-escalation that can go really far if opportunity meets skill (your ability to do good "eyecatch"). I think most guys of above average-attractiveness have had the experience of a random girl just staring them down, like she's thinking "hot guy!" Even for guys who aren't above average, sometimes some girls just have a thing, or there's a situatio…
/r/seduction03/11/16 10:06 AM
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These are really good. Some are optional, some are essential - like looking people in the eye. Use your eyes. Don't simply look her in the eye (well, do if you have a problem with this). Use the timing of the look, the facial expression you have when looking, the thing you're imagining when you look... it's a deep field. Eyes are your best and subtlest weapon. Use effectively, they can create a warm approach, generate attraction, express unmistakable sexual intent, even improve the sex itself. T…
/r/seduction02/11/16 03:14 PM
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Focusing on one girl basically never works, especially in that situation. Got get other prospects, then you'll have a better chance with her.
/r/seduction02/11/16 03:10 PM
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If you make eye contact, smile. If she smiles back, say, "Hi." Then you could stop and say, "Hey, do you...blah blah blah" (doesn't matter, something mundane). This could happen all in one go, or you could graduate up to it each day if she follows the progression. High-five after the smile is another route to go. But more importantly this focusing on one girl is not a good strategy.
/r/seduction02/11/16 03:07 PM
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Yup, just do it. Pickup doesn't have to look like pickup. Just be one of those people who strike up a lot of conversations (if a small campus or doing it in a highly visible area rapidfire, talk to guys as well - it all goes to getting you socially warmed up, which is when the magic happens).
/r/seduction02/11/16 03:01 PM
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I wouldn't say him not getting anything so far means he needs social proof (though it never hurts). He probably just needs to approach.
/r/seduction02/11/16 02:59 PM
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Yes as long as it is normal. You seem to be thinking you need to do something in the convo to make her attracted. You more likely need to NOT do something you are currently doing that is turning them off.
/r/seduction02/11/16 02:54 PM
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Two words: stalled out. Should have struck while the iron was hot, bounced her home right when she said she will follow you anywhere. She may well even see it as she opened herself and you shut her down by not taking the giant flag waved in your face as a clue she was gagging for it. Too late, most likely. It's OK, if you did it with one you can do it with many more. Keep your chin up.
/r/seduction02/11/16 02:49 PM
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Better solve your life first or women will just comolicate it.
/r/seduction02/11/16 02:44 PM
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It helps but isn't at all necessary (unless doing a lot of group stuff).
/r/seduction02/11/16 02:43 PM
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Never worry about a single date. It's all just practice. If you want to be less nervous, talk to new people before the meet. Even service personnel. And drink some alcohol if you're used to it (not enough to smell or be sloppy though).
/r/seduction02/11/16 02:40 PM
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Ross Jeffries, the guy who started it all.
/r/seduction02/11/16 02:38 PM
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