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Well that makes sense(at least a bit) 2 friends of mine said a few days ago that only tall men are worth dating, and they said " Well he's not that short...6'1'' " and I only said that that's not only "not that short" its not short at all, even well above average and they didnt even believe me at first. At this point I realized that they dont just prefer tall men...they dont even perceive shorter men (or dont perceive them as men). That also explains why they think its okay to talk about somethi…
/r/MensRights16/01/13 10:17 AM
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For comparison: Boyfriend makes me feel bad about giving me oral sex (bad as in he does it for her but he doesnt enjoy it) Most of the answers are telling her to leave him, refuse him blowjobs, shame him for finding it gross, telling her she should get him to "shut the fuck up" about finding it gross and just doing it, that he should "man up", that she should blackmail him into doing it etc.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 10:47 AM
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Well, the second quote isnt from him, googling it gives me this: http://newmalestudies.com/OJS/index.php/nms/article/download/14/13 Also I dont know much about him but the first quote makes much more sense in context, he is not talking about the act of sex itself but when a woman acts manipulatively to extort gifts, free drinks, money etc. from men. Its still problematic talking about this in a context of rape, but the quote makes it look like he is talking about the consent given immediately be…
/r/MensRights18/11/12 10:34 AM
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The ASoIaF books must be a goldmine for feminists who want to complain about something. So far I've read feminist complaining about: female characters succeed because they show traits perceived as typical female Cersei and Daenerys or Melisandre as example. Its reinforcing the idea that women can only succeed if they act according to their gendered stereotype. female characters succeed because they show traits perceived as typical male Brienne, or Arya. Its reinforcing the idea that women can on…
/r/MensRights04/11/12 03:58 AM
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Children are not an asset. The parents dont own their children. Its actually vice versa. The child has a right to its parents. Thats the basis of children rights, family law, custody law and child support laws. No, I am saying it is a game of people who don't want to be a parent vs. being forced to be a parent People are forced into being parent because its the right of the child to have parents except when this is not in the best interest of the child. Adoption is only possible if its in the be…
/r/MensRights04/11/12 03:11 AM
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That would only be possible if its in the best interest of the child and I dont think that we can realy say that, so it would be a violation of the Convention on the Rights of the Child which can be read here. http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/crc.htm States Parties shall use their best efforts to ensure recognition of the principle that both parents have common responsibilities for the upbringing and development of the child. Parents or, as the case may be, legal guardians, have the primary res…
/r/MensRights03/11/12 08:34 PM
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Well I know that its not normal in the sense of "everyone acts like this everywhere", I guess it depends on your social group, age etc. I just wanted to illustrate that I think that this is a social dynamic men are subjected to. I have the feeling that being shamed for male sexuality causes some men, like me and my friends, to avoid that topic at all, and others to go over the top, because when you are already a disgusting sex obsessed pig for talking about sex you can as well act like a disgust…
/r/MensRights03/11/12 05:24 PM
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There is this unspoken rule that male sexuality does not belong into the public. Clothing is only one aspect of this. I know the sexual preferences, what they value in a sexual/romantic partner, what actors they find super hot, what porn they watch etc. from most female friends. From my male friends I know nothing. Not even if they ever had sex(except for the fact that some of them are in a relationship) not if they prefer blondes or redheads, not if they ever thought that an actress is hot or i…
/r/MensRights03/11/12 05:02 PM
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Thats bullshit. IF you just say "Hey but thats sexist" or something to that extent it will maybe challenge her view of men and cause her to think about that. However if you turn to a kneejerk reaction like this most people will just dismiss it as a competition of the sexes or something like that. Most people who think like this are not aware of their sexism and they are more importantly also not aware that there are actually men who are bothered by this. Reserve your cynicism for radical feminis…
/r/MensRights03/11/12 04:32 PM
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Yeah that sucks. Its another violation of the rights of children.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 04:12 PM
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The woman can force him to pay if he can't. This is why men need to be able to have a say in the child. Get it now? No I dont get it. Because if a man cant pay...he shouldnt not need to. Nobody here ever disagreed with that. What proposed was that men who can, but dont want to pay, can opt out because women have the same decision available(abortion). Those are 2 different things.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 04:02 PM
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Well if he realy cant then everyone here agrees that he shouldnt have to pay, even if he doesnt tells this the mother. Whats the problem?
/r/MensRights03/11/12 03:52 PM
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Why does the woman get to create a situation where the rights of the child are not in the best interest? So you are saying that because women have the chance to create a situation that is not in the best interest of the child...men should have this option too?
/r/MensRights03/11/12 03:41 PM
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How the fuck are my views narrow when nobody even adressed the issue I brought up. Yes its unfair to men, I never denied that.. But by giving them the decision to not pay child support you are stripping the children of the right to receive child support against the best interest of the child, and you are creating a situation in which different children have different rights(that are not in their best interest). And according to the Convention on the Rights of the Child this should not be possibl…
/r/MensRights03/11/12 03:31 PM
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How come women don't have to prove paternity to gain child support? They can refuse DNA tests for the children to prove that there is a relation. and? Good issue. I think men should have the right to demand a DNA test. How come women rarely pay child support to the men? Also good issue we should raise more awarness and stengthen the rights of fathers. How about you go and take your narrow view of how child support really works, and preach it in a place that will believe you, like SRS Just fuck y…
/r/MensRights03/11/12 03:17 PM
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Totally not the only criteria that was given was whether the father wants to pay or not and the argument for that was not that some fathers are not able to pay or suffer from it but only because its not fair that women have decisions men have not. Else we should fight for fathers getting more support, better subsidized child support etc. so that no men has to suffer because he has a child and has to pay for it.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 03:03 PM
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Nope its about not paying at all for their own children. Btw you are all realy quick at downvoting everything you dont agree with. Its almost like I'm on a feminist sub.(and down it goes.)
/r/MensRights03/11/12 02:50 PM
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If you have a child, that child comes first tell that to people who dont want to pay child support because it would be unfair to the men.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 02:40 PM
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Its not an appeal to emotions. Custody, childcare, adoption etc. All this are childrens rights. They are literaly the rights that the child has. As stated in the Convention on the Rights of the Child, the child has a right to his parents and not vice versa. No women "owns the right" to give a child up for adoption. Mothers can only give their children up to adoption because its assumed that his guarantees the best interests of the child. So its actually a right of the child. Also fathers dont ha…
/r/MensRights03/11/12 01:49 PM
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Again not a single word at the issue of the rights of the children. How is it possible that one child can have a right another doesnt because one of its parents decided that it wont? The argument I'm holding is that parenthood is NOT a onedirectional relationship. It goes in both ways. You are just reiterating the "but its the womens fault" and "fathers should have the right to abort too". But the point I'm making is that if you give fathers that right you infringe on the rights of the children.…
/r/MensRights03/11/12 10:40 AM
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Children win in this situation yes. Is that realy a horrible idea? Again the men could at least not have sex or be more careful when doing it. The child has absolutely no chance of avoiding it. You are saying its a game men vs children. Why the fuck should the children lose? And when you think about it how poverty affects young males more than females, how they are prone to turn to criminality because of it, how girls outperfom them at school, how they have to take dangerous jobs because of it, …
/r/MensRights03/11/12 10:29 AM
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but your personal story has nothing to do with men and women having equal or at least equivalent rights. Thats not true the rights of the child have everything to do with this question. You are still all owing me an explanation why it should be possible for one child to have a certain right and not for another just because its parents made certain decisions. Equal rights for men and women are important. But equal rights for children are even more important because they have absolutely no respons…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 09:21 PM
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I'd say that its unfair and an infringement of the rights of those men but that this can never mean that the children produced by that have to be penalized. Men should have easier acces to custody, should be able to demand a paternity test. No women should be able to give children up for adoption against the will of the father, child support should be a reasonable amount and shouldnt force anyone into poverty and should be state subsidized if it would and men should also have a say in how the ch…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:48 PM
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Neither. Abortion is another story that is only possible because a) a embryo is not a child/person, therefor has no rights. b) women have a right to decide what to do with their own body Its a whole different story when the child exists it has rights and its has that rights no matter who is to blame for it or if its wanted or not.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:34 PM
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Sorry dude but life is not fair. Yet you are arguing that its so unfair that men cant terminate a pregnancy and should have the RIGHT...to opt out of fatherhood because of that. Also if a child has no right at all to have a father....why the fuck would a father have a right to see that child? Why? Sorry dude but life is not fair. Thats what we are talking about or not? and in this case its unfair to some men, but thats better than to make it unfair to children.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:24 PM
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But she didnt. Does that mean that I have less rights than the child my father actually wanted?
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:14 PM
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What choice do you mean? Both parents should have the responsibility to care for the child except when they are incapable of it. Stuff like adoption, custody etc are always childrens rights. It should be possible to give children up for adoption because its often in the childrens interest that parents who are realy unwilling or incapable of caring for them should give them to people who can take better care for them(It shouldnt be possible against the fathers will, ofcourse). The best argument I…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:18 PM
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Because the proposed solution disatvantages and so violates the rights of children. I would love to hear a solution that doesnt penalize the children. Should society pay instead? Maybe, but that would be also problematic. A solution to that injustice cant be one that penalizes children in any way.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:01 PM
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The father still had a chance not to have sex(ecxept when he was raped etc.). The child has absolutely no chance or saying in this so it should not be penalized. So even if this scenario is not completely fair to the father, it would be even more unfair for the child to opt out.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:50 PM
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The strange thing is that fathers rights are a big topic here. And I completely agree with that. But nobody here realizes that not only fathers have rights to see, care, and to bring up their children, children also have rights to get support from their fathers, whether they are wanted or not. So indirectly you are undermining fathers rights everytime you ask "But why should a child have a right to be supported by both parents", because the best way of strengthening fathers custody rights etc is…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:45 PM
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But assuming that both sides made stupid decisions - it isn't particular fair to blame one side and not the other. So far I didnt blame anyone but tried to point out that it isnt a question of who is to blame but only to what rights children have.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:39 PM
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And the idea that someone could possibly force me to spend the rest of my productive life paying for an accident You arent paying for an accident(thats pretty dehumanizing) or for having sex you are paying to guarantee a living human being that happens to be your daughter or your son equal chance. Even if you deny that its your son/daughter that child will always have you as father. Having children is not a one directional relationship. You dont just have a child, the child also has a father. I …
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:35 PM
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No. I'm making the mother responsible for the decision. Your entire argument banks on the notion that the mother has no power in this situation. Totally not. The argument is that the child has no power in this. Saying a father should not pay means penalizing the child for something its not responsible for. But, why would some children have a right to two supporting parents? Children have a right to the best support society can give them. Also to equal chances. Why should one kid have the right t…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:21 PM
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I find this statement strange. If you drive this to the extreme children are hurt every time they don't get born in to a wonderful family Yes, for example children are hurt everytime they are born into poverty, hunger, abusive families or everytime they are denied education etc. We have mechanism in place trying to guarantee that every child has equal chances. Child support is one of them.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:05 PM
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No one has a right to someone else's labor especially if they were coerced or tricked into it by a third party. Thats not true. Children have a right and are entitled to food, protection, education etc. Abandonment cannot occur where no willing responsibility was accepted in the first place If you stick your penis into a vagina you accept the posibility that this could lead to pregnancy. I dont get why this is so difficult to grasp.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:54 PM
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Yeah why has a child rights at all? Why is food a right and not a privilege? Etc. Its a question of equal chance for children and thats a right and not a privilege. Adults are responsible for their own economic succes and their own decisions. Children are not responsible for the decisions their parents made. At the end of the day its the child who gets less support if the father decides so, so you are making a child responsible for the decisions of its father and it simply doesnt work this way. …
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:50 PM
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So you think that child support has to be paid because someone is at fault and not because children deserve support?
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:30 PM
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A good start, insult everyone reading, nice, classy. Yeah sorry for that but its a very emotional issue for me not only because it hits home but also because I realy think that this idea is not only ruining the mens rights movement but will also hurt the rights of fathers and the rights of children (especially male children btw).
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:25 PM
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That are a lot of assumptions you are making about someone you dont know but you know what? It wouldnt matter. Even if the mother made stupid decisions or of she is to blame...it doesnt take away the rights of the child in any way.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:13 PM
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Wow fuck you all. I'm an unwanted child. Never had a father, only half a family, no male role model, nobody to teach me what it is like to be a man in our society, and I hate myself, partly because of being unwanted and because of sharing DNA with a man who is a fucking asshole for fathering a child he doesnt acknowledge, and you want to legalize that he wouldnt even have to support me & my mom? This has nothing to do with justice, children are entitled to a certain amount of support no matter i…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 02:14 PM
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