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Thanks for sharing.
/r/MensRights17/10/19 11:19 AM
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Yeah... I've never laid hand on a woman in my life, but I can't count the number of times a woman has hit me.
/r/MensRights17/10/19 11:07 AM
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Honestly, in my experience (which is obviously anecdotal), I've found that women are far more likely to talk down to me in a condescending way in person than men are (though a great many men [and women] are quick to do this online to each other).
/r/MensRights16/10/19 11:22 PM
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The worst is when a teacher is explaining something to a student who asked, and then girls in the class bemoan to themselves that they are tired of his mansplaining. Like... DO YOU KNOW FUCKING KNOW HOW THE PROCESS OF TEACHING WORKS!!!!
/r/MensRights16/10/19 01:12 PM
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The fucking cps are disgusting.
/r/MensRights13/10/19 05:11 AM
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It's odd, one study shows women are gold diggers, and the feminist response is "Women can't find men who make as much or more than them"; men prefer young women, and suddenly their are pieces of shit for their personal preferences. Side note... the production quality and editing (or lack there of) of this guy's videos leaves a lot to be desired.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 11:58 AM
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I actually had a really positive experience with this the other day. I had a female Facebook friend post some horse shit about how men are selfish and abusive, ect., and it was one of those "men are" not "some men are" or "abusive men". So it was a board, sexist generalization. I replied to here saying that I had not personally engaged in any of the behaviour outlined there, and in fact had been the victim of all of it at the hands of several exgfs. I went on, noting, that I would not share a si…
/r/MensRights02/10/19 11:51 AM
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Fuck Adam Baldwin? I think that's what he's hoping she's thinking. But yeah... domestic abuse is domestic abuse. When you are asleep in the same house as an abuser, it doesn't matter what gender you are. Just ask Phil Hartman (except you can't because he's dead). The anxiety that some men feel going to bed in the same space as a woman they fear might harm them in their sleep... it is nothing to laugh at.
/r/MensRights01/10/19 03:57 AM
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I thought the headline was using quote marks to suggest she is clueless. Then I realized it meant she was in the film Cluelesss.
/r/MensRights01/10/19 03:56 AM
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The guy talking in the video seemed to lack a clear direction. Couldn't be bothered to listen to him for more than 30 seconds. I mean... the message is simple: gold diggers are having a hard time finding men who will accept the fact that they are gold diggers. You don't hear men complaining about not being able to find women who make as much money as they do because guys in general simply accept that they will usually be expected to make as much or more than their partner. Why? Because women typ…
/r/MensRights30/09/19 03:23 AM
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Wait... this movie is about toxic masculinity? It just looked like a space thriller like Even Horizon or some shit.
/r/MensRights25/09/19 01:17 PM
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WOW!!! It's like they don't know that ALL discrimination is positive for somebody.
/r/MensRights24/09/19 12:44 PM
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Surprise! More personal insults.
/r/MensRights20/09/19 01:48 AM
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tell women that you will try and fuck them if they get drunk around you whether they want you to or not Because you willfully ignored the part where I said I personal have no interested in having sex with a woman when she's drunk. And that is why it is pointless to have a conversation with you. Just personal attacks, strawman arguments, and simple binaries.
/r/MensRights20/09/19 12:21 AM
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I stop reading whenever the other person drops an ad hominem. That is equal to conceding the argument in my book. Cheers!
/r/MensRights19/09/19 11:58 PM
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Not surprised you go into ad hominem. It's consistent with the rest of your posts.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 11:27 AM
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You just said adults should be held responsible for their own choices when they are drunk. So... Hey... it's pretty clear you just want to feel superior. Here. And you seem more interested in a strawman argument. If a sober woman choose to get so drunk that she'll make bad choices, that's up to her. The key word here is choice. You want to keep putting things in binaries, refuse to address the issues I bring up in your comments, and misrepresent mine, that's fine. Have a nice night, and be caref…
/r/MensRights19/09/19 04:25 AM
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My moral compass needs some fine tuning like everybody else's, including yours my dude. Courts are NOT consistent. Do not pretend they are. If you are going to stand by that, then don't even talk to me. Move on. A man gets drunk and has sex; he is not raped. A woman get drunk and has sex; she is raped. THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT. Black man and white man commit the same crime; Black man gets a long sentence. White man and white woman commit the same crime; man gets longer sentence. Courts are NOT con…
/r/MensRights19/09/19 01:45 AM
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It's not designed to protect people who are blind drunk; it's designed to protect women who are blind drunk. But it doesn't protect women who are blind drunk from the responsibilities of driving drunk. If they are going to be held accountable for one choice, they should be held accountable for all choice. If they are not going to be held accountable for one, then they should not be held accountable for the other. I'm not saying I'm for one or the other; I'm saying courts should be consistent. I …
/r/MensRights18/09/19 03:06 PM
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Obviously. Agreed.
/r/MensRights18/09/19 02:15 AM
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My attitude is this. Courts hold you accountable for your 'choices' when you drive drunk. On that basis, if courts are going to be consistent, they should hold you accountable for your 'choices' when you fuck drunk. I'm not sure what is so complicated about that. Inversely, if courts are going to tell a man he raped a woman because he had sex with her consent but she was drunk, then courts should be telling women that they rape men when they had sex with consent that was obtained while drunk. I'…
/r/MensRights17/09/19 02:30 PM
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Men's lives are so expendable in people's eyes. It's sad. The other thing, is those "We teach women to cover their drinks; we teach women to hold their car keys between their fingers; we teach women to not walk alone at night. Can we teach boys not to rape." It's like... first of all... if you post "Rape is bad" memes on FB and Instagram, don't expect to get applauded. It's like all the people want to applaud themselves for being opposed to rape. Being opposed to rape should be the fucking defau…
/r/MensRights16/09/19 02:09 AM
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You: " Your complaints about the right are actually pathetic." Word for word. You: " I'm not going to let you goad me into some bullshit argument about double standards." That's you refusing to quantify your 'pathetic' comment. You, demonstrating that YOU do not have to quantify things. You, after asking for evidence: " I'll debunk you." You, expressing your distrust of the media (and thereby any source I might offer as evidence): " The media fucking covered it up." You, with personal insults (r…
/r/MensRights15/09/19 08:46 PM
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You are in no position to claim good faith. You stance was "anything you say I will debunk." That is the opposite of good faith and that is why I decline to continue. You responded to my list of conservative hypocrisies as 'pathetic' but refused to quantify that saying you would not be 'goaded into an argument'. From the earliest point of this conversation, you put emphasis on the fact that you were not willing to quantify anything, and that you expected me to quantify everything, and that you w…
/r/MensRights15/09/19 08:02 PM
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Oh.. I'm an idiot. Alright. Gotcha. Personal insults. I have this rule... as soon as I see a logical fallacy, I stop reading. Personal insult are an ad hominem. The irony is that you are actually identical to the 'liberals' you are railing against. I get into arguments and they take the same structural stance you take. They refuse to consider alternate perspective or facts that challenge their view and start talking about 'debunking' things instead of listening. You made it very clear that you a…
/r/MensRights15/09/19 06:41 PM
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I thought you weren't going to be goaded into an argument? I mean... your confirmation bias is clear. I haven't even offer evidence yet and you say you will "debunk" it. Which means you have no intention of considering evidence and will only work to disprove what I say. So... you are not arguing in good faith. You can believe what you want to believe, and you can call everybody who doesn't agree with you a "liberal". It's clear I would be wasting my time trying to engage in a discourse with some…
/r/MensRights15/09/19 06:20 PM
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I don't care about pundits at all.
/r/MensRights15/09/19 06:11 PM
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Do you realize that ICE is breaking the law and violating human rights? Do you realize there have been actual people killed by terrorists supporting Donald Trump and espousing his rhetoric? I guess that doesn't count... right? Let me get this straight... There is your team, and there is the other team. Everybody who supports your team is right, and they are not hypocrites, and the people who support the other team are wrong and are hypocrites. And people like me, who think there are nuances to p…
/r/MensRights15/09/19 06:11 PM
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Why don't you quantify the word 'pathetic' or actually try digging into the political issues surrounding ICE or the Antifa boogie man you are bringing up? It's clear form your language that you are using the very same logic on the right that you are criticizing the people you see as being on the left for using. But hey... why hold yourself to the same standard you hold others to?
/r/MensRights15/09/19 05:51 PM
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You are framing things in binaries. It's not that simply. If you think it is, it's because you are engaging in the very same thinking you are criticizing. I am politically on the left, and yet here I am. I am a supporter of MRA and I get into debates with other people on the left about it all the time, and many of my friends agree with the issues are raise even if they are left. Likewise, I have 'liberal' friends who role their eyes are what you call "SJW" all the time. You have labels. They are…
/r/MensRights15/09/19 05:48 PM
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And the right has a serious problem with people who are also unwilling to admit to their double standards. Obama mentions speaking to North Korea, FOX New shits on him as unpatriotic. Trump does, he's a diplomatic genius. Obama plays golf a little, FOX news says he should be doing his job. Trump does it twice as much, no mention. Obama likes Dijon mustard, FOX says he's an elitist. Trump had a golden toilet... no problem. McConnell refuses to hear a Supreme Court nominee during an election year …
/r/MensRights15/09/19 05:43 PM
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I could say "Conservatives are hypocritical assholes", but let's stick this individual's flawed logic instead of labeling an entire groups of people who have a spectrum of political beliefs. These simplistic and unthinking binaries aren't productive.
/r/MensRights15/09/19 05:38 PM
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They don't have as much privilege I guess because they are women? I dunno... There is an utter lack of logic here.
/r/MensRights15/09/19 05:36 PM
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Well... this is from the royal family that had a journalist tortured and dismembered (while alive) because they didn't agree with his politics. So... this is par for the course... for the entire family. I'm not so sure this is a "pussy pass" as much as it is a "We don't want to cause an international crisis" issue. In fact, I'm surprised she didn't have diplomatic immunity. But I can't image the sentence would have been any more even is she wasn't a Saudi Princess. In fact, I'd expect the guy sh…
/r/MensRights15/09/19 04:40 AM
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At least she didn't suggest that the moon was part of Mars.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 01:08 AM
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If more feminists took this approach, the movement might be more popular.
/r/MensRights08/09/19 01:25 AM
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WTF?!?!?!?
/r/MensRights04/09/19 10:13 PM
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Thanks for the clarity.
/r/MensRights04/09/19 11:14 AM
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I still remember in high school having teachers tell us in class that the girls should get the HPV vaccination... like... it was a mixed class. A lot of the boys (myself included) inferred that these vaccines didn't work for boys, otherwise, why wouldn't they encourage us to get them as well. So we didn't. I've been lucky, but not all men have. With that little bit of education, millions of infections could have been avoided. There is no feasible reason not to tell boys to get them as well, othe…
/r/MensRights04/09/19 04:08 AM
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That is consistent with how most schools handle fights. I was tall but awkward in grade school, so some of the short bullies with Napoleon complexes thought they could use me to set an example. There were three or four times when they would pick a fight with me on the playground, and I'd defend myself as nicely as I could (big guys beating up little guys doesn't win a lot of friends). Usually I'd put them in a head lock. When the teachers were sorting things out, though, we'd both get a detentio…
/r/MensRights04/09/19 01:32 AM
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Fuck... this is sad. You have a woman LITERALLY ask to be hit. And I mean LITERALLY. She actually invites him to hit her with her own words. She says to go ahead and do it and dares him to do it. Teachers and fellow students see a woman hitting a guy: no problem. Let him deal with it. He deals with it, and then they got a problem. Fuck those white knight jocks who come over too.
/r/MensRights04/09/19 01:26 AM
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Thanks for posting this. The AMA was an interesting read. The question I'm left with is, why? What was the accusers reasoning behind these false allegations. It seems like it is all for nothing. It just seems so random. Did she not want to take responsibility for choosing to have sex with some guy in the theater? To have you life turned upside on a whim like that is insane and tragic. This truly sounds like a Kafka-esque experience.
/r/MensRights02/09/19 02:43 PM
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We don't know that it is false. The claims are old, and it seem to be an accepted fact that Alec Holowka, a victim of abuse himself, suffered from mood disorders and did engage in behaviour that is consistent with the claims laid out by Quinn (though that it and of itself does not prove guilt). It is also clear that Holowka had recognized the problematic nature of his past behaviour and that he has sought support for his mental health issues. The issue that most have is not that these claims are…
/r/MensRights01/09/19 04:46 PM
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she didn't care about his role Did you speak with her?
/r/MensRights01/09/19 04:34 AM
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Not sure I follow.
/r/MensRights01/09/19 04:34 AM
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Her too. It's easy to judge from the outside. You say "she abandoned him," but he was arrested in 82 and they didn't get divorced until 1992. That means she stuck by him in some capacity for the better part of a decade. And she still had a husband who was wrongfully taken from her, and she then had to raise a child by herself. I don't know what happened, but she might have remarried to make sure she could provide for the child. You can judge her and say "she abandoned him" all you want, but she …
/r/MensRights01/09/19 04:33 AM
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The money he was awarded belongs to him and not a cent of it should go to her. Having said that, she is perfectly within her rights to sue the state for money. They took her husband away from her, the father of her child, and it wasn't until 10 years after his arrest that she divorced him. She is owed some compensation from the state as well. Likewise, his child, who grew up without a father, is also owed compensation from the state. But her suing him instead of the state, that is fucking disgus…
/r/MensRights01/09/19 01:51 AM
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And women don't get in to cars with strange men because they are angry with them?
/r/MensRights31/08/19 10:47 PM
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Maybe they just don't want their to be any perceived basis for false allegations.
/r/MensRights31/08/19 10:47 PM
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Personal insults? No substance? I wouldn't be so sure about who the 'annoying tit' is.
/r/MensRights27/08/19 03:51 AM
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GTF out of my fucking life. A bit melodramatic mate. Sounds like somebody touched a nerve here.
/r/MensRights25/08/19 11:04 PM
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I see what you did there. Offered no argument what so ever. Very lazy on your part.
/r/MensRights25/08/19 02:05 PM
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Thank you. This article has zero to do with men's rights. Placing it on here seems more like finger pointing, and that is not productive and just gives this sub a bad rep. It's not like women on r/feminism are posting articles about gay couples breaking up and one of the men asking for alimony. If we keep upvoting shit like this, the sub will just read like a bunch of feminists complaining about manspreading.
/r/MensRights25/08/19 05:01 AM
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I think it's because a lot of people on here would actually rather have a conversation about men's rights than what a woman does to another woman.
/r/MensRights25/08/19 04:59 AM
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Yeah... well... that is a strawman because that is not the case here. What does this article about a woman doing something wrong to a woman have to do with men's rights?
/r/MensRights25/08/19 04:58 AM
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Are you talking about the OP? Or the person responding. Because to be frank, the comment " What does this have to do with men’s rights?" seems perfectly justified to me. This has absolutely nothing to do with men's rights. It's just somebody pointing a finger and saying "Look! Women are dreadful too." And that is not a men's rights issue. Moreover, it is anecdotal evidence. This is frankly on parity terms with feminists who complain about manspreading.
/r/MensRights25/08/19 04:57 AM
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That might play here if the article was about her getting a spot ahead of a man who was excluded based on his sex and was more qualified, but that's not what this was about. Even qualified professionals have personal lives where they are less than perfect. I don't see how this article is a "Men's rights issues". It just seems like thumbing one nose at women, and that isn't productive.
/r/MensRights25/08/19 04:55 AM
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Right? I've no clue why this is here.
/r/MensRights25/08/19 04:53 AM
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The key issue here is "which sell their products primarily to men". As men who shave, many of us likely assume that were are Gillette's bread and butter. But they have a HUGE female demographic. Women shave their legs, armpits and pubis. Men just shave their face. However, women have other options (waxing ect.). So Gilette's move worked in some respect, because many women switched to Gillette. And this was a big deal for them because they had been called our for charging women more for the same …
/r/MensRights22/08/19 04:35 PM
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Absolutely. This reminds me of feminists complaining about 'manspreading'.
/r/MensRights22/08/19 03:14 PM
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Blue shop towels are the best!
/r/MensRights22/08/19 03:13 PM
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Oh who gives a shit. It's mostly women who buy paper towels anyways. It is just a company appealing to its consumer base. If you don't like it, don't buy Brawny (if you were to start with).
/r/MensRights22/08/19 04:43 AM
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How does one validate/define/quantify 'equality'? And how does the math come up with that number?
/r/MensRights21/08/19 04:45 AM
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Men are often see as a dildo with a bank account. Once either of those is gone, they can bet on being alone.
/r/MensRights15/08/19 11:10 PM
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He'll have to pay child support to his rapist. For those who think this is hyperbolic, it is not. There is precedent.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 02:00 PM
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There is some awkward wording here. For example, "I love the way he loves his kids." It should be "our kids" not "his kids". Somebody creating a narrative often sees things from third person, even when they are writing in first, so that could be a slip up. But there seems to be other awkward things. "We've done" eight years of marriage? Instead of "We've been married for eight years". That seems like negative mother-tongue transfer. Likewise, the "Eight (8)" (as if she is clarifying the number s…
/r/MensRights03/08/19 05:00 PM
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I had a Russian girlfriend once... when she wanted me to cum inside her, she would say "Throw inside me." I don't know if this is what is at work here, but yes, when it comes to expression in sex, when one is translating from a native language to a second language, wording can seem awkward.
/r/MensRights03/08/19 04:54 PM
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I get the point here.... but I see men and women great/hug/kiss each other at red carpet events all the time. And still photos don't tell the whole story. This seems like some false outrage.
/r/MensRights01/08/19 10:59 AM
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lol... part of me wants to agree with that, but... being objective... egh... I think they are just trying to make the victims look like shit to justify the behaviour. The truth is that Cardi B wasn't targeting rich Wall Street types. The guy that came forward with his story seemed like a regular, working-class dude. But it's not like if a man rapes his female boss who was harassing him or who was embezzling money, people are going to make a movie about that and celebrate the fact that this woman…
/r/MensRights30/07/19 10:06 PM
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They are even making a 'female empowerment' movie about it that celebrates it.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 09:52 PM
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I can't wait to hear an all-female panel on some shitty morning show report on this story and laugh, adding something like "You go girl."
/r/MensRights29/07/19 01:23 PM
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There was a woman who did this the college in my city... shew threw acid on a guy (I think it only got on his arm, but still.... fuck... then she lit herself on fire. She survived. In the comments section on the news story, women were like "Just leave her alone, she's already been through enough suffering. It's a private issue between them." It's like the assumption is the guy did something to deserve it and she is somehow the victim. Can you imagine if that was a man who had done that to a woma…
/r/MensRights29/07/19 02:36 AM
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I proposed to my life on her graduation day, but I let her enjoy her ceremony and take pictures and all that. I didn't want to interfere with that. Then in the evening, when we were alone I proposed. She says she loved it. Made her day even more special. She's also a feminist... when she read this, she said (slightly paraphrased) "Those are just women looking for something to complain about, which is doubly frustrating because there are actual issues that impact women they could be advocating fo…
/r/MensRights28/07/19 02:25 PM
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That was bizarre. I believe they referred to that one as 'groping' in the Vulture article. Like... WTF? She asked for a fucking picture.
/r/MensRights27/07/19 11:38 PM
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​ I had a friend living on the east coast; his baby mama moved the kid to the west coach. He doesn't even get to see the child every year because the child payments make it so that he can't afford trip out west.
/r/MensRights22/07/19 11:14 AM
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It seems like if getting involved with MRA was correlated with him quitting heroine, maybe one should consider that it isn't the bogey many they make it out to be.
/r/MensRights14/07/19 03:37 AM
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The title of this thread doesn't seem to have too much to do with the article itself. Where are women who don't use birth control being praised as heroes? ​ I do think there is a double standard; women who lie about being on birth control do no get punished. Period. That is a problem. But if a guy has sex with a woman without a condom against her will, even if she had consented so long as a condom was used, that is sexual assault. Now... agreements can change, and perhaps she conceded to do it w…
/r/MensRights05/07/19 12:15 PM
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Yeah... the 'drunk consent = rape' argument is one that gets me. Two people go out, both have a few drink, have consensual sex, and suddenly one of them is a rapist. I mean... I knew a girl who told me on our first date that she never had sex unless she was drunk, and intentionally got drunk when ever she was planning on having sex. I saw that as a ed flag, mind you, and never touch her or went near her again, but I've had steady girl friends before who get drunk and we'd have sex after.... sudd…
/r/MensRights01/07/19 08:32 PM
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I think there are to barriers that prevent women, and particularly feminist, from understanding this issue: They do not realize the VOLUME of false allegation that men. They have a limited scope of the context of false allegations. They do not understand how often men are threatened with false allegations. The first issue stems from the second and third. Nature of false allegations. 'False allegations' are not simply those reported to police; they include those spread through gossip and rumour. …
/r/MensRights01/07/19 01:17 PM
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Looks like they just hurt men here. ;-)
/r/MensRights07/06/19 10:21 PM
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simp Thanks incel. Thanks for sharing your scripted responses with ad hominems with me. So insightful! Cheers!
/r/MensRights06/06/19 04:19 PM
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I'd say you sound like a 12-year-old, but I know 12-year-old who are more mature than that.
/r/MensRights06/06/19 03:12 PM
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Well... first Mr. Strawman, I didn't say anything about 'making women feel comfortable'. So... You can drop that shit right now. Second, if you think only women feel uncomfortable with bigotry, prejudice, and sexism, then you have a very limited understanding of the world. This conversation is over, because you are clearly not a person worth talking to.
/r/MensRights06/06/19 01:54 PM
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That sounds like some straight up misogyny on your part. Painting all women with a broad brush stroke like that? No place for that in this subreddit.
/r/MensRights06/06/19 01:48 PM
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That's a fair question. I just thought it was a celebration of what men contribute to society and it was meant to contract this notion of masculinity being 'toxic'.
/r/MensRights06/06/19 01:05 PM
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Melody Hensley's actual Tweets are worse that this. She goes full tragedy Olympics, saying "Military/ex-military combat folks: there are groups that have higher statistics of PTSD that you. Educate yourself." Aside from her atrocious grammar (folks = 'yourselves' not 'yourself'), this notion that because another group might suffer from a similar issue somehow supersedes the other group's suffering? WTF? How completely ignorant and self-centered. The other issue is that she fails to recognize tha…
/r/MensRights28/05/19 12:47 PM
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Friend, you don't get to tell me what I think is worth talking about. If you apply that same reasoning to yourself, then you can just down vote me and move on. Yet here you are, replying to me. So? You get one set of rules and I'm supposed to follow another? As to your misdirection, the title of the thread is not "feminist frames rape consensual homosexual intercourse", it's "misunderstanding of a legal term". I'm taking issue with the focus in the title. If you want to have a conversation about…
/r/MensRights27/05/19 10:44 PM
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Let's focus here. What is the head line the OP posted? It reads "Feminist writer Naomi Wolf realizes on live radio that the entire historical thesis of the book she's there to promote is based on her misunderstanding a legal term". 'A legal term'. Not legal terms. And she's not confusing a 'pardon' with an execution. That is misleading on your part and you know it. And frankly, your framing it in that way comes across as bad faith. She is confusing the term 'death recorded' with an execution. Th…
/r/MensRights27/05/19 09:03 PM
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I don't conflate 'women' with 'feminists'. The video is not a person espousing feminist ideals; it is a woman who is a historian who is speaking to men's sexuality and the way it has been prosecuted. So, if you are upset with somebody conflating women with feminists, talk to the OP. The rest of your comment seems to be based on the fact that you've assumed I've conflated women with feminists, or that I am somehow uncomfortable with women being criticized. Let's get on point. What does this video…
/r/MensRights27/05/19 06:17 PM
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Then we have very different ideas on how to have productive conversations about men's rights.
/r/MensRights27/05/19 01:57 PM
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I'm happy to change that, but does it make a difference? Is this subreddit supposed to a 'feminist bashing' subreddit, or a men's rights subreddit?
/r/MensRights27/05/19 11:59 AM
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I am here to discuss men's rights and issues men face. This flub has nothing to do with men's rights. It seems more like feminist/woman bashing/mocking, which isn't really the purpose of this subreddit. If it, is, then I'll just unsubscribe. If feminist discourses fall into misandry, then it is perfectly reasonable to bring them into the discussion. Is that the case here? No. A woman writing about a men's rights issue (men who have been persecuted for their sexuality), she makes a mistake (and i…
/r/MensRights27/05/19 01:21 AM
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Um... why is this here? ​ EDIT: I am here to discuss men's rights and issues men face. This flub has nothing to do with men's rights. It seems more like feminist/woman bashing/mocking, which isn't really the purpose of this subreddit. If it, is, then I'll just unsubscribe. If feminist discourses fall into misandry, then it is perfectly reasonable to bring them into the discussion. Is that the case here? No. A woman writing about a men's rights issue (men who have been persecuted for their sexual…
/r/MensRights26/05/19 02:19 PM
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I have heard so many men stepping up and taking stand against these recent abortion laws, and yet women still say this. In fact, somebody on my Facebook posted something similar to this, but it was.... wait for it... a Tweet from a man. The idiocy of sharing a Tweet of a man saying men were not speaking up about this issue was clearly lost on her.
/r/MensRights20/05/19 12:43 PM
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Sorry brother. My heart goes out to you. As a person whose father ran off and made no effort to say in contact with me, I can tell you that it would mean the world to a great many children to have a father like you.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 05:39 PM
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The thing I hate about this is that it is just bad logic and reasoning. I'm pro-choice myself, so when I see these pseudo-feminist make (what I assume they think is witty and insightful but is actually a fallacious parallel) comments like this, I just roll my eyes. You aren't helping the cause; you are alienating potential and even current supporters. ​ Giving a man a vasectomy that may not be reversible would be more akin to giving a woman a tubal ligation. That would be quite parallel. When a …
/r/MensRights16/05/19 01:27 PM
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Sounds like parental alienation. This is a tool that is disproportionately used by mothers following a divorce or separation. It is one for of child abuse that courts regularly ignore. Which is frustrating, because in most cases, it is the only for of child abuse going on and the parent engaging it in is the one who gets custody.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 01:08 PM
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The police agree. Let's hope the DA follows through with that.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 05:57 PM
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For those looking for news reports to support this. What's frustrating about this is that society has taught her abusing men is ok. She abuses her husband; she keeps custody of her child. If she had been put in prison, or had her child taken away, she might have given pause to abusing a man (or a fellow human being). The courts and society had an opportunity to teach her that; they didn't. Now this man is dead.
/r/MensRights15/05/19 05:55 PM
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I'm trying to image an unprovoked man shouting "I want to stab you in the eyeball cunt" to an woman before brutally assaulting her and the fall out that would come as a result. It would not be a $250 fine. His life would justifiable be ruined.
/r/MensRights13/05/19 03:26 PM
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I think both the hat and the shirt are shit.
/r/MensRights08/05/19 12:41 PM
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Sounds like you might be in on it, huh? Sounds like I'm talking to a conspiracy theorist, huh? I mean... the simply response to this is: "Yup... I agree. That doesn't belong on her. Sadly, the MRA will attract guys who have this attitude because they mistakenly think that it is some kind of safe place for them. It's not." But instead you have to go onto a conspiracy theory. Do you seriously think that misogynist men don't exist? And that they might not be drawn to a forum where people post stuff…
/r/MensRights29/04/19 01:14 PM
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I guess we should only look at the good and not bother being critically self-reflective.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 09:47 PM
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Well, I think it is clear that we see things differently in that regard. There are a number of ways in which women are 'privileged' in our society, and a number of ways in which men are 'privileged'. But both see the ways in which they are marginalized and seek to advocate for themselves. In the process, radical and extreme voices come up on each side. You seem to have chosen to see the female extreme as the standard and the male extreme as the exception. What you may not realize, is that each s…
/r/MensRights28/04/19 08:03 PM
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The two are not mutually exclusive. The OP is obviously suggesting this is not and should not be what MRA is about, but there are voices such as this in here that needed to be called out and weeded out. Hell... this forum posts shit from rad-fems and people piss all over their misandry and logical fallacies. Are you going to respond to those post and say "There are crazies in any movement; this isn't what feminism is about"? Instead of misdirection, why not simply acknowledge the problem: yes, m…
/r/MensRights28/04/19 01:47 PM
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lol... thanks!
/r/MensRights28/04/19 01:43 PM
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The backward, victim-blaming sentiments aside, the grammar is just fucking killing me.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 01:34 PM
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I'm disinclined to take that attitude or respond like that. It's an issue, and somebody posting that is an issue is fair. If the response is "that's only fringe MRAs", well... that is like bringing up false allegations and then somebody responding with "Those are rare so they aren't an issue." I know I don't like it when people try to dismiss a legit issue that impacts me by suggesting it is a fringe concern, so I'm incline to apply the same in this context. There are lots of men who hate women,…
/r/MensRights28/04/19 01:34 PM
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Word.
/r/MensRights24/04/19 01:09 PM
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My interpretation is that the 'patriarchal' system isn't really patriarchal. The issue is capitalism (and I realize there are some conservative folks on here who support that system and we can agree to disagree). It's like MLK... he started off focusing on race, but he realized after a decade that the issue was really class, and that class uses social markers as a way to value or devalue people based on social markers like race and gender. So as long as short sighted people are too busy comparin…
/r/MensRights24/04/19 01:08 PM
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If masculinity is so 'fragile', why is it so hard to defeat the patriarchy?
/r/MensRights24/04/19 03:34 AM
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Thanks for your thoughtful response.
/r/MensRights02/04/19 01:35 PM
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Yes. One defines themselves as a victim and then often go onto to use that as an excuse. The other defines themselves on their ability to conquer obstacles and don't let past tragedies impede their progress.
/r/MensRights01/04/19 07:12 PM
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Let me explain something about my biological father. He had subsequently been convicted of sexual assault and domestic abuse (on two counts from two women). So he was generally a giant piece of shit and fled the state to avoid paying child support.
/r/MensRights01/04/19 07:10 PM
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I understand your concern with regard to custody in general, but you don't know the person you are defending. He had subsequently been convicted of sexual assault and domestic abuse (on two counts from two women). So he was generally a giant piece of shit and fled the state to avoid paying child support.
/r/MensRights01/04/19 07:10 PM
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People need to owe up for their shit. That said, I had a mother with bi-polar who was, for obvious reasons, not a great mother. She did things and said things that fucked with my head pretty good. But my biological ran as far away from us as he could, leaving me and my brother behind. So while I do hold my mother accountable for her faults and abuse, I hold my biological father responsible as well. ​ In this case, the guy might be a shitty father, but that does not excuse killing your children, …
/r/MensRights01/04/19 02:08 PM
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" Even if Johnny was abused by Amber, it’s possible that he would’ve fought back. It’s still going to be a bad look for both of them. " ​ Umm.. self-defense makes you look bad? And why are they o quck to believe her but so slow to believe him? ​
/r/MensRights26/03/19 01:49 AM
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Or threats. Or solicitation of homicie. Or slander.
/r/MensRights23/03/19 03:19 AM
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The fuck?
/r/MensRights19/03/19 12:22 AM
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I have women explain things to me that I already know all the time, and I've never accused them of 'womansplaining', and I've even had women on here, and feminits explain issues men deal with to me, like I didn't live 30+ years as a man already and wasn't aware of what it was like to have a penis. I just assume 'best intentions' on their part and don't turn it into a gender issue. But yeah... there are some women who will quickly turn that into a gender debate. It's like... sorry... I learned X …
/r/MensRights17/03/19 02:24 PM
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Courts: Drunk driver are accountable for the choices they make while drunk. Also courts: Drunk female are not accoutable for the choices they make while drunk and men who have sex with them are rapists. ​ Call me crazy, or whatever, but even if a guy is sober, if a girl consents while drunk, she consents. Her choice t drive a car in that case will lead to a criminal charge and conviction. Why is she suddenly incapable of making a choice about sex when she can make a choice to and be accountable …
/r/MensRights24/02/19 11:08 PM
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Guy snoops through girlfriend's phone? Controlling, pathological, psychologically abusive asshole. Girl snoops though phone? I bet that dude's a cheater. He better hope she doesn't find anything. You go girl.
/r/MensRights24/02/19 01:37 PM
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The commercial does certainy seem to frame heteroexual men as the primary problem, an white men at that after their edit. One could say "Hey, the guy going after the girl is bi", but ye, the trope seems to be that it is straigh guy who are the problem.
/r/MensRights15/02/19 02:21 AM
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Thanks for sharing your perspective.
/r/MensRights14/02/19 04:07 PM
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I'm not sure why 'straight' was included there. The commercial didn't make exceptions for gay men; they have every right to be just offended by the commercial as straight men, and when they take issue with that commercial specifically, they are likely to recieve the same resistance. ​
/r/MensRights14/02/19 01:56 PM
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I remember that case. It was infuriating. Man pokes hole in condom: JAIL!!! Woman poke hole in condom: 18 years of free pay cheques; man put into slavery. WTF?
/r/MensRights11/02/19 11:25 PM
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The frustrating thing is that you are pointing to instances where the man is the father. There are instances where the man is not the father and they still have to pay. In my city, there was a cop whose wife had a years-long affair with another officer and had two children by him, and the other guy was raising the children assuming they were his. They got divorced, he had to pay child support. once the payments were issued, he said he wanted more visitation, annd she said (in court) he had no ri…
/r/MensRights11/02/19 02:27 PM
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Not surprised. If people look back through my posts, you'll likely see that I don't fit the mould for a steretypical 'MRA' by what feminist deem it. I don't support Trump for example (I feel he politicizes MRA issues only when it suits him), and I often advocate for feminist perspectives. However, I also feel that there are issues that impact men in a unique way that warrant the same kind of attention that warrants a feminist perspective, and I see the two movements are being more like a yin/yan…
/r/MensRights11/02/19 02:20 AM
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If her ex wa as ugly as me, I feel bad for her, and I'm not sure why she'd want to have a child with either of us ;-) In all seriousness, she'd already had a child by another guy (she got pregnant at 17; he had nothing to do with her or the baby, and she never even pursued child support from him. It was a wierd situation.
/r/MensRights11/02/19 02:02 AM
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Brooklyn99
/r/MensRights11/02/19 12:29 AM
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It's not simply becaue of women, but it can be. I have a friend who told me about her 'rape calendar', which is a common practice for women. It is essentially a way to plan their day without putting themselves in a position where they would be vulnerable to rape. Going to a bar? Go with friends; have a ride. Picking classes at school? Don't take the night classes if you have to walk home alone. Things like that. Now, she also told me that when she walks alone, she keeps her keys in her hand with…
/r/MensRights11/02/19 12:28 AM
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I'm old too brother. I'm old too. :-(
/r/MensRights11/02/19 12:13 AM
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So not Boris Becker the accountant? Oh... almost got them confused ;-) Seriusly though, I did not know that. Thanks for the heads up. The NBA actually has training for rookies, during which they encourage players to practice safe sex, use condoms, and to always dispose of condoms personally afterwards. Pretty sad when you have to include that detail in a job orientation.
/r/MensRights10/02/19 07:17 PM
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Judges rule in the best interest of the child. That's 'the man pays' every time.
/r/MensRights10/02/19 04:36 PM
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It's as if people refuse to admit that, yes, women can do horrible things to men. There was a doctor who recieved oral sex from a woman, who afterwards spit it out and inseminated herself with it. He was ordered to pay child support. That's real. And many women hae poked holes in condoms and gone off the pill on the slide to get pregnant. It's not like this isn't a legit concern.
/r/MensRights10/02/19 04:36 PM
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In feminist circles, they express concern about microagressions and how the threat of these, and the threat of more serious violations (such as sexual assault) compel them to change their behaviour. And this is how they define oppression. They don't realize that men have to constantly modify their behaviour too. This is a perfect example. You have to actually consider whether the person you are with will violate your trust in this way and so have to dispose of condoms yourself and make sure they…
/r/MensRights10/02/19 04:32 PM
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I had a girl I was dating for a month and a half. Told me she was on birth control; turns out she wasn't. Doged a bullet, but fuck.... The thing was, we had very little in common, I didn't have a good job, an we hardly knew each other. Why would she even want to get pregnant by me? ​
/r/MensRights10/02/19 04:29 PM
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It wouldn't matter. He'd still have to pay. There was a case where a doctor had sexual contact (oral sex) with a woman, and she went to the bathroom afterwards, spit it out in her hand, and then put it in her vagina. She got pregnant. He was ordered to pay child support. And the judge said he was ruling in the best interests of the child. In my mind, the best interest of the child is to take the child away from a sociopathic mother who committed, what constitutes in my mind, sexual assault. The …
/r/MensRights10/02/19 04:28 PM
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This is not hyperblic in the least. There was a case where a doctor had sexual contact (oral sex) with a woman, and she went to the bathroom afterwards, spit it out in her hand, and then put it in her vagina. She got pregnant. He was ordered to pay child support. No shit. And the judge said he was ruling in the best interests of the child. In my mind, the best interest of the child is to take the child away from a sociopathic mother who committed, what constitutes in my mind, sexual assault. The…
/r/MensRights10/02/19 04:26 PM
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So... when a dude is told no by women, he can't choose to jerk off without the people who turned him down telling him how to jerk off?
/r/MensRights02/02/19 02:47 AM
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There are a number of sources on the Wiiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternity_fraud It's higher in some countries (like Mexico) and lower is others (Finland), but world wide it's hard to measure. Most estiamtes put it betwee 0.5-3.0
/r/MensRights29/01/19 01:31 AM
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It's crazy how many courts tell men to pay for children who aren't there's. I just don't understand the logic. If you go with "the well-being of the child", then just tell Bill Gate to give them double the payments. That will be better for hte chid and Gates is just as much the father as the poor shlup being forced to pay for somebody's else kid.
/r/MensRights29/01/19 01:30 AM
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I think that is a fair assessment.
/r/MensRights25/01/19 12:58 AM
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True. True.
/r/MensRights24/01/19 01:49 PM
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That seems a reasonable position to me. I know in some feminist discrouses, infantilizing 13 and 14 year old girls and shaming their sexuality while being 'proud' of boys of the same age with sexual conquests is an issue. Personally, when I wa 13 or 14, I wanted to and felt ready to engage in sex, but I likely wouldn't have made wise choices. But to me, there is a big difference between a 13 and a 16 year old dating, and a 14 or 15 year old dating a 30 year old. There is a degree of manipulation…
/r/MensRights24/01/19 01:49 PM
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Hey... whatever floats their boat. Who gives a shit what consenting adults do?
/r/MensRights24/01/19 02:07 AM
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Ahmen! I feel like I can't even be critical of Trump here because there are so many supporters that can't separate Trump from men's rights. They are two separate issues, and in my mind, Trump only plays on them when it serves his politics. I don't want people like Trump speaking for men's rights. I much prefer an articulate and intelligent person like Jordan Peterson. Though I don't agree with all his perspectives, he is open to having a cnstructive dialogue.
/r/MensRights24/01/19 02:00 AM
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This is a great point. When feminism employs langauge that attacks men, especially working-class men, it becomes a personal affront to the men who have sacrificed so much for those women. It's simply too divisive to be productive.
/r/MensRights24/01/19 01:46 AM
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I'm curious what is it that most people have an issue with. Is it An issue that the men are held to a higher standard (older women can date young teen boys but adult men can't date young teen girls and both should be seen as equally wrong), or That society won't accept a young girl's sexual autonomy as they will a young boy's sexual autonmy and both should be equally acceptbale? Or is this just six of one half a dozen of the other for most people? ​
/r/MensRights23/01/19 11:48 PM
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Working class men and women are pretty much in the same boat economically. If working-class women united with working class men ignored middle- and ruling-class women's 'pay equity' argument, we'd all be better off. I mean... does Jenifer Lawrence getting paid the same as Bradley Cooper for a movie mean anthing to a man and a woman who are both making min. wage for general labour? No. ​
/r/MensRights23/01/19 11:40 PM
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"Our society is where it is today because of men." I'm not so sure I'd be proud of that. Giving men credit for everything? Seems a bit much. And if you are going to give them credit for everything that's good, you gotta take ownership for the bad shit too. ​
/r/MensRights15/01/19 05:09 AM
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Wasn't this the plot to an episode of CSI: Miami?
/r/MensRights10/01/19 10:29 PM
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That's binary thinking. Criminals are often victims an their crimes often stem from victimhood. This is not to say that one isn't responcible for their crimes, but these sharp binaries are not helpful.
/r/MensRights09/01/19 02:15 PM
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All I hear is you dismissing evidence but not offering any. IF you expect me to defend my position and the evidence I support it with while expecting me to accept everything you have to say without you holding yourself to the same standard, then don't expect me to continue the discourse. Yes, there are things that suck for me, and there are things that suck for women (though it seems like you can see that). Simply put, you think men should be able to discuss DV with respest to how it impacts the…
/r/MensRights08/01/19 10:50 PM
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The only tangible ways I can currently see in which DV is gendered when it comes to women are all in their favour. This is where the hang up is. I'm a man. I know what my experience is, and having had discussions with other men, I feel I understand what many of the typical experiences are like. But I'm also an individual, so my experiences differ from other men. I don't assume to know how this differs for women or how it impacts all men. Based on what you've said, you seem to think that because …
/r/MensRights08/01/19 09:32 PM
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First, as to my experience and how it relates to others, I chose the elements of my experience that are consistent with research on the matter. I have worked as a research assistant with a doctor who was doing a paper on this and in the process read a number of article on it. If you want some doi numbers to some articles, here are several https://doi.org/10.1007/s10896-009-9261-4 https://doi.org/10.1007/s10896-012-9482-9 https://doi.org/10.1057/978-1-137-52452-2_9 http://psycnet.apa.org/doi/10.1…
/r/MensRights08/01/19 08:45 PM
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You asked me to qualify it, and I offered my own example, which is consistent with how many men experience domestic abuse. I freely admit that my specific example is anecdotal, but it points to the ways in which people experience violence differently. I also use words that frames this as an example and not how every situation operates, so when you go into 'some women are stronger than some men', I've already made allowances for that. If you refue to see that men and women experience things diffe…
/r/MensRights08/01/19 04:02 PM
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I can give you an example. Let' go with domestic violence. I've been hit my a SO in the past, more than once. I don't have much tolerance for that. But never, in the moment that I wa being hit, did I fear for my physical safety. I knew I could protect myself from her if I had to, or (more ideally) leave. If I defend myself, I could be accused of abuse myself. In contrast, when a women is being assault by a man, it is (in most instances) quite easy for him to overpower her. He could literally kil…
/r/MensRights08/01/19 01:56 PM
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Thanks for sharing your thought. You have a fair and reasonable perspective. Happy New Year!
/r/MensRights07/01/19 05:44 PM
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That seems a fair and reaonable position. Thanks for sharing your perpective.
/r/MensRights07/01/19 04:53 PM
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I respect that position. But do you bring up FGM when people are talking about circumsion? There is a documentary on circumsion on Netflix. Would you criticize that for not giving equal weight to FGM? Again, I respect your position, and it is logically sound, but I think there are two ways to view this.
/r/MensRights07/01/19 04:50 PM
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Great points!
/r/MensRights07/01/19 02:51 PM
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Though both sex/gender experience violence, and though men likely experience it at a much higher rate (as a number of studies suggest), they experience them in different ways. I don't see any issue with with discussing those nuances. Suicide and homelessness are not 'gendered' issue in that manner either a both genders experience it. However, it is clearly a larger problem for men and when forums like this disucss those issue as the impact men, I don't think it is helpful to have somebody pop up…
/r/MensRights07/01/19 02:47 PM
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I'm not sure that assuming they have no perspective is a helpful approach to any discoursee. People are more than able to understand and empathize with two issues and speak to one. If a woman is talking about FGM, I don't feel the need to bring circumcision up unless the person talking some how makes a point of dismissing it. Then it's clear they don't have perspective.
/r/MensRights07/01/19 02:44 PM
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To be honest, I find this annoying as well. When you are discussing how an issue impact a certain group, and somebody starts in with the 'whataboutism', it simply isn't productive. Violence against women is a sincere issue and one I think we can all agree deserves attention. On the other side, if somebody were to talk about the suicide rate among men, and somebody else responds with 'yeah, but women attempt suicide more often', I feel like they are just distracting from the issue. I think we can…
/r/MensRights07/01/19 03:37 AM
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Online dating sites are shit. They are desgined for sex workers and atractive men. They simply do not work for anybody else. I say this not as a judgement, but because it is a fact. If you are an average looking dude (not ugly, but just average), you have to kill it on your profile to attrack any interested. Attractive women are literally (and I do mean literally) getting scores or even hundreds of messages a day; mildly attractive women are getting dozens. They makes the women callous and selec…
/r/MensRights06/01/19 03:53 PM
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I was such an awkward fuck when I was young because I didn’t have a father growing up. The only advice I got from my mother about girls was “You are too young to talk to girls”. I remember when I was 15, there was this girl I was crazy about. She was gorgeous (actually became a model later, though not a famous one), and I had no clue how to approach her and had never even been introduced to or talked with her before. Like some crazy fuckhead I just walked up to her in between classes while she w…
/r/MensRights03/01/19 11:56 PM
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If you ever need to get it out, just create another account and share it there. I find that even writing things like this down for yourself and putting them into words helps. I have had toxic friendship and I have written letters to the friends that I have never sent, but just getting the words out for myself helped. You aren't alone.
/r/MensRights30/12/18 09:38 PM
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That's rough. I slept over a friends house once when I was over tired and couldnt safely drive home (I work a 12 hours shift through to 3am an then got up for an 8 hour shift that started at 7 the next day, went out with my friends afterward, and crashed hard. He had his gf over and she brought a friend of hers that she wanted me to meet. I was not interested at all but was polite all night. I was going to crash on the couch, but I vaguely remember being guided to another room where there were s…
/r/MensRights30/12/18 03:56 PM
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I see no reasons why both sides can't find a middle ground: they are working toward the same goals in spirit. The issue is that some members on both sides see the other side as villains and don't want to concede to their respective privilege. I got into a debate with feminist friend of mine, and she saw all MRA's as misgynists. I said (paraphrasing) "There are some people in MRA (and frankly an uncomfortable number) who do espouse rhetoric that is hateful toward women, just as there are many fem…
/r/MensRights28/12/18 05:20 PM
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When people in general are open about their emotions, the only person it doen't benefit if themselves. That's just how the world work becaue people, in general, are self-interested, and when they know somebody's weakness, they will use it to their advantage. Also... being able to understand, critically reflect upon, and evaluate one's emotions is a sign of strenght. Letting them dictate behaviour is a sign of weakness. Regardles of gender. Socially, we make allowances for this for women (I'm not…
/r/MensRights25/12/18 04:03 PM
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You have to accepet the premise that it was indeed an attack on men, which I do not accept. I am critical of Trudeau for reaesons already mention. As for Sara Wheale, if it was not a position she wanted, then she wa not giving up something that was important to her, and so one could frame it a 'virtue signaling'. But my entire point is that framing either as such is unproductive though eithr side could choose to dismiss the other side a such if they so desire. The more productive approach is sim…
/r/MensRights25/12/18 03:35 AM
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As a general rule, I hate the term 'virtue signaling'. It seems that whether one is on the left or right, they have virtues that they hold and that they promote. When the left raises concern for the virtues that they hold important, some (and I stres some) on the right drop this 'virtue signaling' comment to dismiss the values of the other side. Meanwhile the woman who quit is herself expressing the values and virtues that she holds important, and that is legitiamate, but people on the left don'…
/r/MensRights24/12/18 06:21 PM
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You are using a strawman and you are offering two different standard. One for yourself, and one for me. The strawman? I never said Dr. Ford was telling the truth; I said she made an accusation. there are two polar oppoites here: believe her or don't. The reasonable, middle ground is to frame it for what it is: an accusation. I'm in the middle, you are on one end that is equally as flawed as it's opposite, which you project onto me as my position. The double standard is that you apply 'innocent u…
/r/MensRights22/12/18 03:45 AM
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Rape is hard to prove. If you think that any woman wh was raped and can't substantiate warrants death threats, then we simply won't be able to find middle ground. You also assume that the Ford allegations are false, which you can't prove any more than I can prove they were true. You seem to think you know things that are unknowable. So there is really no point in speaking with you further.
/r/MensRights20/12/18 03:59 PM
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That's a fair point, but I've seen this on lower levels. A friend of my who was assaulted while in high school (the assailant pled guilty) had slut sprayed on her locker and had hateful and threatening notes put in her locker as well because assailanlt was popular in high school. This was only four or five years ago, so... you don't have to be a celeb for this to happen. Thanks for yur insights.
/r/MensRights20/12/18 03:56 PM
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I don't believe women are discouraged from anything anymore. I don't say this to be antagonistic, but if this is the world you live in, then you live in a dimension outside of my own. Dr. Ford recieved death threats for coming forward with allegations against Brett Kavanaugh. I would say that certainly discourages women from coming forward with sexual asault claim. And the fact that police have been found to destroy rape kits is certainly dicouraging. I agree that, especially with roles in leade…
/r/MensRights20/12/18 02:38 PM
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Thank for sharing. I see men on this forum and in public support men with respect to struggling with depression or other issues that challenge social construsts of masculinity. I think that is wonderful. On the other side of that is social constructs that discourage women, or at least have traditionally discouraged women. It' great to see girls pursuing leadership roles, and even if this is increaingly common, I see nothing wrong with what Clinton wrote in this cotnext. Men have struggles, and m…
/r/MensRights20/12/18 03:57 AM
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I find most female nude I get sent are spam from a company and not an individual (though I have no way of knowing). But yeah... it's pretty clear here somebody doesn't know the meaning of 'unsolicted'.
/r/MensRights09/12/18 11:52 PM
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I read these... I was like... what? Situation one: fan girl asks to take a picture with him (he does not know her, and she is invading his personal space initiating a covnersation and asking him for something perosnal). He obliges, and then asks to see her milky way tatoo on her arm, and when he lifts part of the sleeve on her shoulder, which see (according to his own photos) did whil smiling and raise no objection when he asked, then says he used it as an excuse to put his 'hand up her dress' (…
/r/MensRights06/12/18 04:21 AM
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History? The worst part was when Black men had all that authority over the affluent white women of the Antebellum south. So tragic. Or working class men, who historically got the vote less than a century before women did... they were so much more privleged than the ruling-class women. Sure... ruling-class women got to eat, and had clothe, and had a home, but did they get to have a penis? And then there was all those year that men could just rape women, becaue being accused of raping a woman neve…
/r/MensRights05/12/18 01:23 PM
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Could of sworn this wa posted a week or so ago.
/r/MensRights04/12/18 01:27 PM
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Or in the intrest of class/power. Trump is the prime example. He pretend to be interested in the 'innocent until proven guilty' argument when it comes to those in power who support him; yet when it is Black working-class men he takes out a full page ad to promote the death penalty beore a trial has even begun. ​ Men in power seldom look after the men (or women) in the working clas. And liberals/progressives celebrate when a female CEO gets 'equal pay' but don't give a shit that working class wom…
/r/MensRights03/12/18 04:16 PM
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Thanks for your inight Layla, or do you prefer Layla?
/r/MensRights27/11/18 05:53 PM
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They way people construct/view marriage is extremely problematic. When a man start dating or proposes to or marries a woman, he will have any number of her friends and family memebers say "Make you you take god care of her" or "Make sure you treat her right". How many people (outside perhaps the guy' mother, if that) tell the woman to treat him right and take good care of him?
/r/MensRights27/11/18 01:19 PM
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When people say 'yeay, boys get raped, but they get raped by men' I just shake my head. Who gives a shit who the perp is when you are talking about supporting a victim? Like WTF?
/r/MensRights23/11/18 12:26 PM
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I have complimented co-workers in the past when I was younger... didn't see any harm in it. But... you know... whether there is or isn't, I'm at work to work. I've grown up. I gotta say, it's just easier not to even say anything about how co-workers look. ​
/r/MensRights18/11/18 07:21 PM
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I'll take He-Man and Castle Grey Skull thanks.
/r/MensRights11/11/18 02:56 PM
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You claimed the liberal made it up. That means they did something. That means you have to prove it. I'll wait for you to get back on that with your 'evidence'. Cheers! P.S. You cna drop the "which of thoe 17,000". I already hyperlinked to a monograph on the subject and linked to several specific articles. If you insist on being so wilfully dim, just check out the Wiki page and the associated links they provide. You are literally the ONLY person I know claiming that these don't exist. Have a good…
/r/MensRights07/11/18 09:49 PM
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Your claim is that the liberals/left made them up. That is not a negative. But even still, when you make the claim ("Dog whistles don't exist") it is on you to prove they don't exist. And I've already offered evidence. You've moved the goal post, because whatever evidence I offer, you'll dismiss. "Oh, that's just a newspaper article." "Oh, that's 17,00: pick one." I picked one. A monogaph I hyperlinked. It discusses political dog whistles in detail. This is a commonly accepted and discussed prat…
/r/MensRights07/11/18 09:07 PM
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Let me know when you have evidence and I'll think about getting back to you.
/r/MensRights07/11/18 02:52 PM
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Again... you have no evidence at all to support your position that something that is widely accepted doesn't exist. I've offered evidence, you've dismissed it. I've given you a link to a specific monograph if all you want is 'one', and links to 17,000 academic works that speak to dog whistles in politics, and several new articles. You have NO evidence. Once you provide some evidence to the contary, then you get to criticize. Until then, have a good day sea lion.
/r/MensRights07/11/18 01:17 PM
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This just in: man who still refuses to provide evidence still criticizing evidence offer by those holding the opposite opinion. Quit your sea-lioning buddy. Nobody's falling for it.
/r/MensRights07/11/18 09:35 AM
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You ask for 1, I gave you 17,000. There are literally monographs about the subject. You want article about them? How about using the caravan as a dog whistle for xenophobia? 'Inner city' as a dog whistle for the Black community'? The point of te dog whistle is to call out the socially and morally unacceptable sentiments that rally a base that holds those views, but still give yourself some level of deniability to maintain your appeal to moderate voters. Which you know. By their very design the a…
/r/MensRights06/11/18 10:57 PM
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This just in: Man who gave no evidence extremely critical of evidence others offer. Here's the thing, YOU STILL HAVE NO EVIDENCE. And you are arguing against the obvious: allusions exists. They are part of language. The words exists because the describe a phenomenon. And one that does exists that you are denying exists with no evidence to support your cause. Also... you asked for 'one' study: I gave you THOUSANDS. And that is still not enough. Political dog whistles exist. Period. There are any …
/r/MensRights06/11/18 09:01 PM
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You asked for 'studies'. I gave you a Google Scholar search that turned back over 17,000 studies that spoke to dog whistles. And still, you have no evidence yourself. Once you get some studies that prove dog whistles are a myth and fabrication of the left (let's see those studies), then you'll have a leg to stand on. Until then, try holding yourself to as high a standard as others and quit your sea-lioning. Because we both not you'll find an excuse to dismiss any evidende brought forward. You al…
/r/MensRights06/11/18 05:41 PM
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See... as I said. No source will be good enough for you. Any 'evidence' I offer, you will dismiss. Thanks for the confirmation. People like you expect everybody else to support their claims with evidence, then dismiss the evidence they are given, all while absolutely refusing to provide any of their own. Must be nice to hold everybody else to higher standard than you hold yourself.
/r/MensRights06/11/18 04:39 PM
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Though 'quantify' comes fromt the root 'quantity', it is also used to refer to something being provable. But in either case, yes, you can quantify this trend. Example? 'Old stock Canadian'. In the last federal election, Stephen Harper, the Conservative candidate, may a point of saying he would support 'old stock Canadian'. This was to serve his base and a way of promoting an anti-immigration position without saying that he was anti-immigration. You want to quantify it? Just go through the transc…
/r/MensRights06/11/18 03:14 PM
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I'm assuming then that you are a person who answers to dog whistles then, because that would be the only reason for denying something that quantifiably exists. It's pretty clear it will be a waste of time explaining something to you that you are already aware of but are in denial about.
/r/MensRights06/11/18 03:18 AM
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Political dog whistles have been common for a long time. To feign like they don't exist is naive.
/r/MensRights05/11/18 05:58 PM
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I gotta assume you mean to post that comment to something else, because it makes absolutley no sense in the context of this conversation.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 07:32 PM
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If you don't think T_D (a sub that has been used by Russian bots) posts racist content and that people don't use dog whistles, then you and I will simply not agree on much of anything. Just calling somebody paranoid and dellusional is an ad hominem in this context. You are simply trying to dismiss my claim witha personal attack. It's lazy.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 07:30 PM
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I'm not saying there isn't name calling on both sides: there is. But there is name calling and attacks coming from the conservative side too. And frankly, I find they collectively get into the ad hominem attacks far earlier into the debate than most moderates or people leaning left. A couple of weeks ago, I posted something suggesting that Trump only calls on 'due process for men' and other mens issues is when it relates to people he supports (like Kavanaugh) and that he is more than happy to ig…
/r/MensRights04/11/18 04:50 PM
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All I can say is that perhaps you should look more closely or look at things from a perspective other than your own. As to 'turn on one another', well... I was agreeing with somebody; not turing on them. Scrolls down this thread. You'll see the word 'feminazi' more than once, and ad hominem attacks are all too common.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 04:02 PM
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The people who promote that kind of thinking usually understand their audience. Men of colour and gay men, who are obviously welcome here, face unique issues, and if the alt-right come in here bashing them, they'll be promptly banned (I would hope). But if they some in here and use sexist dog whistles, sadly, that floats a little easier in this context, so they focus on that and leave the racist stuff for The_Donald.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 03:21 PM
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This is consistent with how may feminists view MRA. I'm all for equitable and fair treatment for women, and often advocate for it on social media, but I also highlight issues that imapct men's lives. A feminist friend of mine posts the 'you can't be sexist to men' and when we got int a debate about MRA, she said all MRA hate women. I tried explaining that, yes, while there are men like that in the MRA (like there are women with the opposite position in feminists circles, especially rad-fem), the…
/r/MensRights04/11/18 03:12 PM
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“These are damaged, needy, lonely women,” says Pearce, “not necessarily pedophiles.” Can you imagine for one second a court claiming a man is not a pedophile because he was lonely and damaged? SMH
/r/MensRights26/10/18 11:47 AM
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Enjoy time with your family. That is most important. Cheers!
/r/MensRights18/10/18 02:21 AM
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Sure.. evidence creates credibility. But you have to listen to a person before you look for evidence. It's a bit of a catch-22. Somebody comes forward with a claim: you here them out. You look into it, and if there is evidence, you follow through. You raise a good point: what makes a source credible. And that is a hard question to answer. Perhaps I shouldn't include it. I feel like a person who is willing to testify under oath under the potential charge of perjury certainly is somebody worth lis…
/r/MensRights18/10/18 01:18 AM
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I'll gladly agree that Clinton is a piece of shit. I wa a Ross Perot supporter in 92 (though I think George Sr. was one of the better presidents America has had for a long time. LBJ and Nixon were abysmal--digression--Carter is a great person, but he seems to have done more since he left office than he did in office, though I appreciate his (and for that matter Nixons') environmental inniatives. Obama (drones, drones, drones) and JFK (esclated the Vietnam war) are romanticized, as is Regan, who …
/r/MensRights18/10/18 01:14 AM
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It's a shame these were the only two candidates. Feminists, legit feminists who have a memory (especially Marxist feminists), were appauled that Hilary was playing the feminit card when she had dragged her husband's accusers through the mud. Sadly, many 'feminists' bough she insincere mantra and voted her because 'feminism'. Trump is the same. People within MRA are excited when he comes forward and says 'It's a hard time to be a man' becaue it echoes the experiences they know to be true for them…
/r/MensRights18/10/18 01:07 AM
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I think when a credible source comes forward, they deserve to be heard, but that we should also reserve judgement and look at the evidence. And I think that is a reasonable position.
/r/MensRights18/10/18 01:03 AM
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I was critical of Hilary for that exact reason. She claimed to be a feminist, but when her husband was accused, she fell into the same character assassination routine that GOP leans on when they get accused. I respected Al Franken, because when he was accused, he opened up an investigation into his conduct. He is, if nothing else, consitent.
/r/MensRights18/10/18 12:59 AM
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A scripted response is one that can be dropped into any conversation regardless of context. Trump supporter dropping"OrangeManBad.exe" or "npc" are doing exactly that. Without responding the the merits of a legit issue, they essentially copy and paste and unoriginal comment meant to insult the person and dismiss their point attacking them. Read ad hominem. And yet, you've still failed to address the overt instance of hypocrisy: a man who brings up allegations against another man (Bill Clinton) t…
/r/MensRights18/10/18 12:31 AM
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You might think what I wrote is pre-scripted, but.... well... 'npc' IS in fact pre-scripted. So... The bottom line is that instead of engaging critically, you've just responded with a pre-scritped response that false claims somebody else is forwarding a pre-scripted response. If you are aware of that, and support Trump, then the two work together quite well, because like Trump, the logic of dropping 'npc' on somebody requires the same kind of doublethink that Turmp regularily employs. And if you…
/r/MensRights17/10/18 11:44 PM
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By Trump's logic, I should be exectued. By my logic? Well... I haven't forwarded any such logic as you've suggested, but you know that full well.
/r/MensRights17/10/18 11:40 PM
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It's pretty clear that you are either a troll, or that you are somebody who only sees what he wants to see. I didn't agree that I told you what to think, I agree that you copied and pasted words that I wrote. As to the meaning "Can we" clearly indicated and question, not an instruction. If you are arguing otherwise, I'm afraid you don't understand how grammar works, or are being willfully blind. I've no further time either. Good day.
/r/MensRights17/10/18 11:38 PM
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The irony of using 'npc' as an automated and uncritical response to follow suit with an overt instance of groupthink seems to be utterly lost on those who use it.
/r/MensRights17/10/18 11:32 PM
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Yup. That is right. Does it say "Stop pretending" or "Can we"? Hmm.. one is an instruction? The other is a quetion meant to generate a conversation. You can read it how you like. But I don't have to pretend like your willfully incorrect inference is accurate.
/r/MensRights17/10/18 11:29 PM
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Is that supposed be an ad hominem? You are on a social justice subreddit. Men's rights are a social justice issue. If you aren't interested in talking about how social justices impacts, men, perhaps you are in the wrong subreddit.
/r/MensRights17/10/18 11:11 PM
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Complete and utterly uncritical response.
/r/MensRights17/10/18 11:10 PM
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Sentence fragment.
/r/MensRights17/10/18 11:10 PM
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I wouldn't suggest that all are. There are a spectrum of people and view within MRA, but I have seen many, and a vocal number, argue that Trump is pushing for due process for me. He's not.
/r/MensRights17/10/18 11:10 PM
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I don't recall saying "You have to think this way." If that' what you inferred, then I'm not sure what to tell you.
/r/MensRights17/10/18 11:09 PM
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I might not agree with everything you've said here, but I do appreciated your measured, thoughtful, and critical response. It i clear you have thought about this critically and objectively. Thank you for sharing your insight and perspective.
/r/MensRights17/10/18 11:08 PM
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Dude...half of your text wall is patently false. Which half? Did Trump not call for the death penalty for five men before a trial? Nobody came forward on Ford's behalf I didn't say that; I said people came forward and the FBI didn't interview them. there is and was 0 evidence Justice Kavanaugh did anything. There are witnesses who came forward to challenge his representation of a number of things. But this is shifting the conversation. I'm not even saying Kavanaugh did or didn't do anything; I'm…
/r/MensRights17/10/18 07:52 PM
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In before the ad hominem.... oh... nope. Nevermind.
/r/MensRights17/10/18 07:41 PM
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I've had it a few times, but it' anomolous. Frankly, more often I've had women express frustration that I didn't initiate when I've gotten mixed signals and didn't want to proceed with any advances without a clear diplay of interest.
/r/MensRights16/10/18 01:30 PM
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Edit: Wrong thread.
/r/MensRights16/10/18 10:26 AM
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Accoriding to those stats, being struck by lightening is not 'slightly' higher: it is more than TWICE as high. Also, where did they get that stat? Are these police reports? Or does this include gossip in social circles? And what about other false accusations? Of infidelity? Sexual misconduct? Abuse? Because these are all COMMON tools in separation/divorces, especially when children are involved. I am a FIRM believer in the notion that women (and ALL victims) who come forward should be heard out,…
/r/MensRights11/10/18 02:45 AM
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I feel like we are being played against each other. This man's story is tragic and is a perfect example of how middle- and working-class men get railroaded by police and prosecutors on a regular basis. Notice that the people here who made his life hell aren't women exclusively: it is a woman (accuser) and a man (prosecutor). And he excuses the man's behavior by saying he is afraid of women. No... he wants convictions rates. Period. It's man vs. man and man vs. woman. I have been twice fasley acc…
/r/MensRights10/10/18 01:11 AM
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Thi guys has some good points, but if he thinks boys have the advantage at school (in the West/developed countrie), then he must be unaware of the fact that girls make up over 50% of enrollement at universities. ​ That said, in developing countries girls certainly do not get equal access to education.
/r/MensRights05/10/18 12:40 PM
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You take issue with me for being a 'liar' and then praise Trump?
/r/MensRights05/10/18 03:19 AM
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smug fake crying and terrible acting that Ford displayed for hours on end. You are assuming it is fake. I don't know that it is or that it isn't. I'm saying taking a screen shot saying "I'm the same gender of this person and know she's a lying sociopath" is pretty far from scientific and has no place on this subreddit. And that one could easily say the same the other way around. You know how Kavanaugh looked to me? Like my brother who was accused of eating pudding, who screamed and yelled and cr…
/r/MensRights29/09/18 10:29 PM
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So being the same gender as somebody and taking a screen shot is enough to be able to determine is somebody is a sociopath? Sounds pretty scientific. ​ In that case, let me tell you that Kavanaugh is a whiny, deceitful beta can can't handle a tough situation and has no place making important decisions. ​
/r/MensRights29/09/18 04:58 PM
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To be against trump and K is to be pro false rape accusations and smear tactics against an innocent man That is binary thinking. It's reductionist, and lazy. And as I showed already, he LOVES accusations against men and propping them up if it is to his political advantage. He doesn't care about men; he cares about maintaining his power. Also, I didn't say he 'shouldn't' be on our side; I said associating him with MRA is bad for MRA because it is. Not only because he doesn't care about 'men' unle…
/r/MensRights28/09/18 01:22 AM
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You can chooe to address the quantifiable instances of overt hypocrisy that I pointed out, or change the subject (Title 9 instead of unproven allegations and Trump's history supporting them) and shift to a personal attack (dropping the TDS reference). Based on how you chose to repond, it's pretty clear you aren't interested in having your preconceptions of Trump challenged, so there's not need to discuss it further.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 03:02 PM
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Is he defending this for all men? Or all men he likes? When he was running against Hilary, he held a panel of Bill Clinton's accusers to dredge up antagonism against her based on accusations that were levied against her husband. Right now, in this very moment, Trump has an issue with this because it is a man he picked a SCOTUS who is being attacked. He bemoans that they are decades old accusations and that they are only being brought up now for political purposes. But the Clinton accusers he par…
/r/MensRights27/09/18 02:29 PM
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Yeah... there are guys who are the exception to this. Regan and Bush hated each other apparently, but Bush wa critica to the ticket. Obama wa a harsh (but reasoned) critical of Hillary, but the thing he disagreed with her most on (foreign policy) is what he put her in charge of. Trump complained about candidates who do exactly what you are talking about and then did exactly that for Ted Cruz. I don't know how some of those people can look themsevles in the mirror sometime.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 01:20 AM
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Some might, but the ones in my city don't. We have an Indigo and a Chapters, and neither has one. Hopefully the roll that out nationwide. I respect store more that at least have a 'family' bathroom. That seems more practical to me. I've seen in the past where men had to bring their female toddlers into the men's room because they need help going and they can't go into the women's room. Odeon Cineplex (cinema chain in Canada) has family bathrooms, as does my local mall. And Starbucks at least has…
/r/MensRights26/09/18 12:48 PM
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Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. I share some of your frustrations and concerns about this scenario as well. I think the political end of this is a result of partisanship, and that is another conversation. Is he qualified? I dunno... it seems he does have overt political biases, which judges are not supposed to have. It seems there is a lot of information being hidden, and he has misrepresented information to the Senate, and if that is proven to be intentional, then that is perjury. Thi…
/r/MensRights26/09/18 12:20 PM
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I feel like there are two sides to this. Yes. When this comes out after a political appointment, it make you wonder if it is politically motivated. When somebody who has kept an assult to themselves sees the person about to enter a position of power where they can victimzed more people, they feel the need to finally speak up. Either is possible. In cases it is important to liten. And when the person making the accusation is open for an investigation but the accused is not, that also lends itself…
/r/MensRights24/09/18 05:47 PM
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This one is a little difficult for me. I'm not a fan og Kavanaugh, so I feel I am biased. But that said, I feel like both sides in this are taking really binary views. Lindsey Graham, for example, said he doesn't care what is said on the subject: it's not going the change how he votes. I think that is closed minded. It's clear he's voting on party lines and doesn't really care what happened, which is scary. And it seems odd that Kavanaugh clearly remembers NOT being at the party, but when answer…
/r/MensRights24/09/18 02:09 AM
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You have a great point here. The 'extraordinary' element is likely why it get headlines. Dog bite man: not news. Man bites dog: news. The sad thing is that SO many men get raped in prison, and it is an epidemic on a daily basis, and instead of this issue being news, it is a joke to most people. The flip side of this, though, is that the perception is that women get raped, so a man being raped should be the 'extraordnary' story in that context, but in prison people laugh it off and say "Well... t…
/r/MensRights14/09/18 04:32 PM
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This is a legit question. I'm not sure, but I think it is more speaking to a double standard of prison rape. ​ When men are raped in prison, it doesn't make news. So why is it making news when it happens to be women being raped? That sounds harsh, but it is a polemic question meant to truly ask: why isn't it news when men are being raped? Or more specifically, why is it a running joke? I mean... children' cartoons literally make prison rape jokes. ​ But yeah... this seems out of place here, but …
/r/MensRights14/09/18 01:11 PM
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This is HILARIOUS!!!! She writes " brand new scientific research that shows most AC units are designed for a man's body temperature - not a woman's." Did somebody not tell her you can adjust the temp? ​ Also... do these middle-class feminists clutching at their pearl necklaces not understand that there are women in sweat shop... so called because they are SO hot and there is NO air conditioning? ​ My female co-workers complain about it being too hot and ask for fans at their desks. This has to b…
/r/MensRights01/09/18 04:22 AM
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I've actually had instances where I get paid less for the same work. At one factory, I started through a temp agency, and then the company did a hire off the street, but refused to even consider any current temps for the spots. A number of women (some men) started over a month after me and were making more on their first day than I was though I worked there longer. My current situation was similar, though management corrected that pretty fast. I had another position where I made the same hourly …
/r/MensRights22/08/18 02:13 AM
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Does anybody give a shit what Weinstein says?
/r/MensRights21/08/18 04:10 AM
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I don't see how somebody leaving a relationship will literally millions of dollars in their bank account needs alimony to sustain their standard of living. It's one thing to split assets... but this seems odd. The article, though, seems to be more about the shape of the film industry and has some really great points.
/r/MensRights07/08/18 02:47 PM
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That horrible post made me almost forget how badly I want some of thi dude's candles! This i a great idea! I got bacon-flavoured incense. It's great!
/r/MensRights21/07/18 02:18 AM
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This is indicactive of the general atmosphere in politics right now. Trump won an election throwing persnal insults at people, which was quite childish, and it's really lowered the bar. Can we just get rid of the insults and focus on the merits of a debate or position? Especially in politics? I remember at Joe Clark's funeral (he's a former Canadian Prime minister and member of the Progressive Conservative party), and Canada's current Prime Minister (Justin Trudeau, who I'm not a fan of) had an …
/r/MensRights02/07/18 11:24 PM
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This alread got posted a few days ago, and she' just some random dumbass on the internet. If we're ging to post random dumbasses talking shit on the internet, can't we pick different ones at least?
/r/MensRights01/07/18 03:02 PM
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Hyperbole? Not really. They are internment camps, also know as concentration camps (so named because they intern people for a time and have a high concentration of people in a small area). How is that term not accurate? u/Junkbunkfunk didn't call them Nazi death camps. That would be hyperbolic. Concentration camps or interment camps are fair terms in this context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment
/r/MensRights23/06/18 09:11 PM
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Is this the_donald? Or mens's rights?
/r/MensRights23/06/18 09:02 PM
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