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DiscussionNotTheBestMoment/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:01 PM
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What about guys who are in relationships with women who make more than them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:05 PM
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Why doesn’t your last sentence apply to other marketing concepts aimed at women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:43 PM
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I’m referring to the specific day February 14th
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:27 PM
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The trope of men paying for more dates. I’m not even saying it’s reality, just asking you if you’re familiar with these tropes. Are you really not?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:58 PM
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Once men and women cohabitate, the trope is that women are keeping up a lot of the day to day life responsibilities (food, cleaning, child rearing). Def understand that. Before cohabitation, seems like the man is doing more (as a trope) because more of the together time is spent on dates, and none of the actions born out of cohabitation exist for women to do. Ofc generalizing, but do you at least agree this is the trope?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:19 PM
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Wait so you put no stock in the trope that only the man usually does something for Valentine’s Day? Because ime it’s outdated, any woman I’ve been with for the past 8 years has done stuff for me on that day
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:14 PM
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Now that the average western woman works and also makes money, and has for upwards of a decade, wouldn’t only more money be gained if both sexes were influenced to buy for each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:12 PM
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Very attractive women get in relationships or have sex with guys who are not very attractive too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 10:01 PM
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Because it gets engagement. Start ignoring idiot posts please
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 09:59 PM
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My mom always told me looks don’t matter. Good thing my dad wasn’t gonna let her fill my head with that bullshit lmao. But imagine if I did listen
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 03:59 PM
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If they don’t value the unique experience you give them. A new man is the unknown, if you satisfy her then she isn’t worried about the outside world in a general sense. Is it really hypergamy if the prior relationship sucked or was lacking?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 03:56 PM
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90% of dudes who are in decent shape and of at least a normal height are simply scared. If they tried to talk romantically (not platonically, intention is everything w this advice) to at least one girl a day as a young man, you’d have a date by the end of most weeks. Y’all are fucking scared
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 03:54 PM
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Open and honest for sure, i wonder if most ppl would consider it not being open if someone just didn’t mention it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 11:55 PM
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How the hell did that convo come up
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:05 PM
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Oh I thought you were talking about hurting the son in that one part, but I understand that son could pose some taxpayer burden. Tbh it can be standardized while also not being something the taxpayer pays for. Like car insurance. They’d just add the 3-500 to the hospital bill. Those pre birth tests are 5 times as expensive tho I think
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 04:12 PM
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Do you have an iota of care for the (non)dad?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 04:02 PM
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Most deadbeats dna is already in the system. Odds are the piece of shit got caught doin some other crime at some point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 04:01 PM
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How many of the average is legit too scared to go up and complement a woman or ask her on a date? Not to bring up the oldest fucking tactic ever, but if a average or above dude tries to talk to 10 woman a day, he will have some dates by the weekend. People are SCARED. not all, but a decent portion
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 02:25 PM
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Global, American data?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 02:23 PM
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Oh so you returned the favor, fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:37 PM
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No one is denying this, the dude said a “rough time”. Why be intellectually dishonest? We don’t win prizes here, we’re all just talkin
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 02:04 PM
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It sucks because everyone learns the game young, and a lot of people don’t believe it or aren’t equipped to handle the game when the “rules” change (due to aging and maturity). Being objective, it really is a short sighted idea to try and swing for the fences without experiencing different types of people to gain perspective on what you really want long term. Wild that a lot of people are thinking long term before they even have the mind or experience to grasp what long term entails. But things …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 02:46 PM
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People do ultimately want the same thing in a general sense (in the west). The average person wants a single person to share their life with. I’m speaking about grown men and women at least
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 02:25 PM
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Like today new? Well hey cheers to us having info we pray we will never use because we’re already in relationships lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 01:36 PM
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If both parties were up front with intentions and didn’t budge unless they really wanted to, it would all be so simple. And it is for the people who find like minded individuals. Sucks that so many people are still playing games one way or another
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 01:29 PM
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Why are you acting like you aren’t aware of common dating tropes?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 01:24 PM
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In no way did I insinuate that. Where did this come from lmao?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 03:47 PM
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Different between can’t afford and won’t pay for. Everything else you’re saying is right
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 03:43 PM
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You aren’t making sense. Someone in a “worse off” country wanting your money would clearly seem better than a person in America (who is doing fine) wanting your money. Not saying it is, but it def seems different
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 03:41 PM
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That’s true but I wouldn’t call that vague, I do get your sentiment tho
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:47 AM
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Probably not often, I can only imagine “male best friend” type situations as exceptions. I’d say the same about women escaping the fuckzone outside of leaving. And yea I also agree that men sexually interested in a woman should let it be known that you want more than friends within the first couple times talking max.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 09:53 PM
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What’s vague about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 09:39 PM
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Escaping friend zone is just as easy. Be completely frank about what you want from the other person. If they want to be friends only, then either just act friendly or leave. If they want to try more than friends, then bingo you’re in. If she says the latter, then doesn’t act like she’s really doing more than friend stuff, then leave. Everyone can leave all the same
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 09:30 PM
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You mentioned a vague promise, that doesn’t sound like being “honest about the relationship”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 09:26 PM
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We seem to be getting different sentiments from ppd then, but hey it’s not a science so ify
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:53 PM
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My guy everyone can say exceptions exist. People here just speak in generalizations
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:49 PM
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Like I said, exceptional. Also, looking outside the country (if you’re a westerner).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 07:43 PM
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That’s true for most people. Most people aren’t very short. For the exceptions, they need to be otherwise lucky or “exceptional”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 07:37 PM
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By being attractive and acting like they are into their trick
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 11:43 AM
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How is this not automodded, it’s a cmv post and you aren’t trying to change their view
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 11:42 AM
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I was highlighting the differences in how you both seemed to be posting verbiage wise, if you got something further than that then that’s my mistake because it wasn’t intended
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:22 AM
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Ahhh the age of already having the other persons number but not knowing what to do next. Part of me misses it! Thank you have a good rest of your day
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:10 AM
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I know, I just asked a subsequent question because I’m interested and think it’s good info. If you don’t want to answer with your opinion, all I can do is respect it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:54 AM
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Met mine* when I was young too! Rarely works but it’s so sweet when it does!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:48 AM
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No, just seems like you’re speaking in theory and he’s speaking from “experience” (probably his personal experience or what he’s heard). What’s your experience and what you’ve heard?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:39 AM
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Can you also give thoughts on what you’ve seen/heard and not just your personal actions? Both matter for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:37 AM
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You thinkin way too fuckin hard lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:59 PM
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Aren’t most ppl dating ppl within 5 or so years of age? What are y’all talking about on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:22 PM
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No, not just Pilates lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 09:11 PM
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“Always” lmao there was a giant fitness movement in the 80s lol you don’t know what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 07:53 AM
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Yep condoms dry a lot of them out and changes friction for them. Guess they say fuck safety. Only ever had a couple mention a condom before I (per usual) pull one out
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:18 PM
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The problems are still there and I would use the term “actively avoided” rather than addressed. Addressing something usually comes with taking something head on in an attempt to maybe change or tackle it, or at least that’s the connotation I’m used to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 08:17 PM
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Yep, any form of living or navigating through the status quo, rather than trying to change it, supports the underlying system many claim to hate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 07:41 PM
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Thinking that the measure of a fact is if it’s in science books and taught in school is…something that not even you truly believe
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 12:16 PM
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TRP isn’t about addressing problems, it’s about navigating the world that we find ourselves in. Your way of actually changing something that you see as negative on a societal scale would be way better I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 12:14 PM
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RP dudes consider their woman either an exception (until they “show their true lizard ways”), or accept that women are “they way they are” and still choose one for companionship sake and all the unique experiences and benefits that come with focusing on one woman
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 12:06 PM
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I found it tiring, texting that many people in a day who aren’t your friends…is ass. Like having a handful of unique yet familiar convos, keeping the info separate, it isn’t as fun or satisfying as being with someone you love after a year of being a hoe imo
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 01:30 AM
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Therapy is not suggested often on this sub for women, or men a ton for that matter. I like seein this
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:38 PM
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Yeah I didn’t question her trust wise either, I just wish she trusted her friends less or tolerated their shit less.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:44 PM
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I’m not talking about a feeling, or even expressed “liking”. I mean flat out trying to have you cheat on your man. That doesn’t add anything to you? It didn’t for the girl I’m referencing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:38 PM
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Some women are okay with being friends to guys who try to have sex with them while in a relationship. Asked a girl I was seeing about cutting off one of these guys and she said “well I can just keep saying no, he’s still a good friend” and that’s just the way some ppl think. Not all, but hey
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:10 PM
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But that’s clearly not all men in the given scenario if we are being realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 11:58 PM
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Half? Damn, is that controlling for bad health?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 10:31 PM
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That’s just thermodynamics with extra steps. Yes everything involves some type of exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 10:22 PM
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Saying it’s undrinkable is where it falls apart. Just say it doesn’t taste good. We can devalue attention, but to act as if it’s worthless is just facetious
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 10:12 PM
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The pimp/manager can just do that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 01:41 PM
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Yep, avoidance. Sucks that women are subjected to stuff where it lowers comfort
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 03:31 PM
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Yeah demographics of the area matter for sure. When you’re visiting family or these other places where you experience aggressive approaches, do you tend to avoid eye contact w niggas who u think might come at you or keep shit as brief as possible? That’s all I was sayin
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 02:26 PM
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A lot of aggressive approaches that women tell me about happen any and everywhere. The store, clubs, dinner, the park. Usually in spaces where it’s mostly just us black people. Every one of them tell me that whenever they see a black dude, they usually try to prevent eye contact so they don’t spark conversations. Some of them say they want a man at the same time, some are in relationships, some aren’t looking. But they all tell me this. It’s def still anecdotal, but the ones I know just seem col…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 05:05 AM
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Could be a cultural thing, but in the black community, a lot of women are gonna be short with you in public. They go through a lot of aggressive approaches and they just don’t seem to have the energy for a normal talk. For them, I say a couple things, give a compliment, look right in their face to gauge reaction to the comment, then ask em out/for their number.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:38 PM
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I may have been turned around, did someone in this thread insinuate controlling legislation that doesn’t have government precedent? This isn’t a “gotcha” style question, I’m legit lost
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 09:51 PM
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You’re missing the part where people collectively vote for what most people in a given area want. It’s not about an individual opinion, but a majority. If you don’t like the majority opinion, options are slim. Leaving is a decent one but it sucks. You’re speaking as if governments came out of nowhere. Some took over via power, but many are maintained via voting. Is that a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 09:02 PM
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I didn’t refute that, or mean to insinuate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:39 PM
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No one is saying to change your whole life. But this is exactly what the government does in some instances. For example, they hospitalize people against their will when you try and harm yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:36 PM
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Purpose is a word that insinuates conscious directive. We are a compilation of parts with no unified goal. We just stay alive until we die. Semantics aside, I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:31 AM
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You could come up with a real answer to that question. Such as “I am able to help you achieve your goals in life easier and safer than you can on your own (social part of government)”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:28 AM
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1 isn’t factual. Just because other species are more efficient procreators (when I say this, I mean cumming inside them yields a child’s at a higher success rate than a human woman) doesn’t really go along with the spirit of the word “capable”. Semantics aside, I agree with your general sentiment
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:27 AM
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These groups typically aren’t just an infinity level occupancy. But some are looking and some are open. And of those, some are very attractive and some aren’t. Of the attractive ones, some are open to being with someone not super attractive if compatible. The odds of finding this get smaller with every qualification. You are 100% right that it’s out there. Just actualizing in case someone wants to know about how their chances of finding that is
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:33 AM
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If someone believes in a faith, they don’t see it as a choice, they see it as the truth. As a non religious person, how can you not see that? It’s like telling someone to change their thought on whether or not the sky is blue. Come on man, just cuz you aren’t like that dude doesn’t mean you can’t think from their perspective lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:27 AM
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Dude those ppl aren’t just letting anyone in. If they are hot, they’re gonna prefer you are hot too. Nothing wrong with that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:25 AM
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Clearly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:17 AM
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I wish Gavin would run this term, I don’t want Kamala
/r/PussyPassDenied04/12/22 01:01 AM
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Hot guys are accused of rape too, just sayin
/r/PussyPassDenied04/12/22 01:00 AM
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Lmao exactly, is 25 suddenly too young to have enough emotional experience to have a decent shot at entering into a mature relationship now? Hmm guess that’s bad news
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 12:55 AM
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The explanation is in the post, not the title part
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 08:37 AM
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In this economy? Hell does that have to do with anything
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 06:29 AM
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Good thing people can’t fake stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 11:04 PM
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It’s not based on what the child needs. Otherwise, it would not scale the way it does, having high earners pay thousands per month. No child needs that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:14 AM
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Casual relationships
/r/PussyPassDenied17/11/22 03:39 PM
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Thanks, def didn’t realize
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:04 PM
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? I think you’re missing my question. I’m asking you how much higher risk is pregnancy for a woman past 30? Let’s say she’s 35. This is not a “gotcha” question. I am asking you explicitly as I do not know a ton about it and you possibly do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:02 PM
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Oh like the fertility is subconscious on a level? Okay, would you be able to answer the last question I asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:55 PM
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The wall is usually referring to looks, not pregnancy viability. It is a factor to some partners, so I def consider it a valid point. I think your use of “high risk” is inherently dishonest though, you should be saying “ highER risk”. Because how high is “high”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:08 PM
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That’s a lot of years, considering time when you’re either a child or married or don’t give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:16 AM
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The first two steps are ideal and sought out by both partners in most modern relationships. What a man or woman is gonna do after years in the relationship doesn’t have much of a bearing on how things go in the beginning. Girls are expected to be good people, as are guys. Most effort I see from either is the “getting the know each other” part. It takes effort to care
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:54 PM
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What about all these sapiosexuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:51 PM
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Def lol I’m Caribbean too but I’ve just never thought about this. But now imma keep eyes open lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:50 PM
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Oh I’m just probably a bad judge of it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:20 PM
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Got ya got ya, only reasons I can think of for you going for someone not your type is if you aren’t able to get with girls that are your type. Not just them denying you, but if you’re in an area where there just aren’t many of em.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:47 PM
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Oh yea I know what you mean now thanks, I’d agree
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:40 PM
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? Look back to the first comment I had to you. I am talking about the question that someone asked you right before that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:39 PM
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When I see the term body builder, I think of a hulking ass dude. Not like a zack from baywatch. I get what you mean now
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:21 PM
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How, when the question you got asked happened a good deal before I even came in the thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:20 PM
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Yeah it is, and I have no problem answering if you do first. Is that a problem for some reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:07 PM
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Muscular, but bodybuilder type stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:07 PM
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Now you’re asking me a question. You didn’t answer the question still.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:59 PM
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I wonder if there are times that you can’t tell
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:43 PM
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That didn’t answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:42 PM
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Most women don’t seem to like body builder size from anything I’ve ever seen or heard
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:41 PM
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There’s a chance I have more optimism in the average person. I’m thinking ppl would see that and immediately think he’s making an unfounded claim just off the common sense that it’s untestable. But again, could be me having more stock in ppl than I should
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:01 PM
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The intellectually dishonest part is you acting as if you can’t parse through his (wrong) verbiage. You aren’t new here (and if English isn’t your first language, disregard), and it’s widely understood that people here generally understand on its face what he means even though he said it obtusely. It’s like someone saying “it’s gonna rain, I just know it” then you saying “well you don’t actually know, you just think so. Where’s the definitive proof?”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:47 PM
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One of the most intellectually dishonest sentences that are on this sub. Whenever people are talking human action like this, there’s no data because this type of research really doesn’t exist in any meaningful way. The dude you were talking to is also wrong for stating his claim as fact
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:50 PM
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Acontextually saying what you do is (I’m not gonna assume “willfully”) ignoring the premise. The question would be “do you do more, less, or the same for your guy friends as they do for you?” And tbh OP didn’t even think about controlling for friends who don’t have the means to match each other*, so he probably isn’t even thinking about this in good faith lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:47 PM
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That is also possible. It really only leaves 3 options as far as responses. Ask for clarification/more context, take at face value and derive opinion based on what’s given and what’s most likely, or don’t take at face value but still derive opinion based on what we think probably happened based on our own experiences. Probably listed them from best to worst, but the person I responded to did the last one. I did the second one, and you’re proposing the first one. So yea I gotta side with you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:26 PM
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I said neither and didn’t give any disparaging qualities or notations to either gender. Just talking about how someone takes bad pictures, and applying it to a joke takes the NECESSARY context of the prior point already being made. Without that, people generally think tinder, and think “people being judged off physical attributes” unless some other context (bad profile, bad pics) are specified. That just makes common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:35 PM
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I thought this until I met some in person, and all that fell away into normal expressions we all give. The specific ones I met just had those expressions for pics
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 01:42 PM
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This is less common in dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 01:40 PM
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Is going over both scenarios and thinking “hmm which is more likely given what we were told about the scenario” projecting somehow? I see how it could be, but you’re acting like it is based on what I said, rather than just one of many daily assumptions we all have about language and meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 01:30 PM
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That likely isn’t what she was implying or referring to when she said that. She likely wasn’t thinking “my man is a klutz with pics, if he had a tinder I would probably swipe left lmaooo”. She was likely referring to initial (physical) attraction. We don’t know for certain of course, but we all know English and subtext and what was more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:03 AM
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“My fiancé was not attractive enough to stand out of a crowd”. Just things that shouldn’t be said
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:27 PM
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This is the part I’m trying to understand. Wouldn’t it only be “open and honest” if there’s a general understanding that it should be discussed? Last times I’ve talked body count with women, the question of using a prostitute or not in my past never crossed my mind. Maybe it’s because I haven’t used one. Do you think the average guy who has used a prostitute would have it in his mind when talking to you about body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:08 PM
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Upon telling you their number and getting yours, where is the part of the convo that leads to prostitutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:03 PM
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Like forthcoming with something like that without there being any discussion? I mean what convo would bring something like that up?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:52 PM
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You’d have it in your mind to ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:44 PM
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The spirit of some ppl is “ha, woman had something bad happen to her”
/r/PussyPassDenied20/10/22 04:55 AM
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Just 30
/r/PussyPassDenied20/10/22 04:52 AM
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I’m not gonna ask which ones lol, seemed kind of implied I wanted to know which ones you thought, if so. But shit it’s the work week, you may be busy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:56 PM
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All the women who think there aren’t men worth dating would find more men they think are worth it at least, with ya
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:47 PM
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Are any of these things inherently more prevalent with women than men in some measurable way?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:45 PM
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They acknowledge it all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:53 PM
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Enjoy
/r/PussyPassDenied30/09/22 06:45 PM
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You’re wrong about my experience, remember, this is Reddit. Trying to extrapolate what anyones life is like based on what they type here is foolish. You aren’t a fool. So don’t do that. And we both can admit a slam like that can cause damage. I’m glad it didn’t. But that being said, I don’t expect cops to try and ensure no damage is caused either, that’s not a fair measuring stick for them or anything, I…tbh what do you think my actual point is? Because you seem to be coming at me for things I d…
/r/PussyPassDenied30/09/22 05:45 PM
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You can’t act like slamming to the ground was the only good way to go about it. Not only. That’s where you’re wrong
/r/PussyPassDenied30/09/22 02:51 AM
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You aren’t saying I’m wrong, yet you call my opinions ill informed and “Monday morning qb”. You are commenting not on what i said, but what you believe I insinuated. You aren’t supposed to do that
/r/PussyPassDenied29/09/22 07:46 PM
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You gotta admit, cops do retaliate out of anger. They do things more than what they need to do in order to retain the subject. We have to admit this when looking at cops actions.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/09/22 12:41 PM
1

Yea, should have said immature instead of not making any sense.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/09/22 12:49 AM
1

So it’s not that she has a height preference, it’s the way she said it in her bio?
/r/PussyPassDenied19/09/22 06:52 PM
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That still doesn’t make sense, the guy saw the pic of the woman at her weight and he swiped right. If he wasn’t into her physical appearance, he shouldn’t have swiped. That’s on him
/r/PussyPassDenied19/09/22 06:20 PM
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No that’s not how bumble works, that’s the app in the pic*
/r/PussyPassDenied19/09/22 03:05 PM
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But why did he match then?
/r/PussyPassDenied19/09/22 12:40 PM
3

Why did you match then?
/r/PussyPassDenied19/09/22 12:40 PM
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Not foolproof but it’s a good strategy all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 04:57 PM
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This isn’t some movie scenario where you’ve known a girl for 10 years and she finally comes around. You meet the girl who likes you at whatever random point in time. You have no clue what shit she was on before, just that she’s into you now
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:26 PM
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Just know a response isn’t coming
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:22 PM
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Lol I’m a fool, and will be going to the doctor for some disabled status because I looked at “active” lol you’re right. Dude must be ugly. Deleting other comment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:17 PM
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He said he was attractive, why’d you say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:12 PM
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You have to just ask people on dates. You see someone attractive, you say hey are you single? If you are good looking and you do it a couple times a day, you will get dates. If you aren’t, you won’t. There’s no smoke and mirror s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:09 PM
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That isn’t a “what if”, that’s a possible answer to the question I gave. No further explanation needed, because both people have to want sex for it to work (legally)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 11:12 AM
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On top of that, why not have sex with jack if you’re horny?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:31 AM
1

What app doesn’t have height on it?
/r/PussyPassDenied31/08/22 03:38 AM
1

Are glasses really a knock still in 2022? Does it depend on the guy or is it a general negative even if he still looks good?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:57 PM
1

To some not others
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:03 AM
1

How is this a problem any further than “listen to this guy or don’t”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:37 PM
1

What’s disgusting about that? Presuming it’s all positive?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:36 PM
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And people don’t carry guns enough for it to be a thought that “who knows, maybe they have a weapon” in a lot of areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:56 PM
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Ask yourself this. Why would they believe that having sex gets in the way of getting to know you emotionally? It doesn’t. They’re either afraid you’ll back out once you’ve had sex, or just don’t want you enough to want to fuck you and hope that learning more about you will get them there. Other possibilities exist, but they seem less common
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:33 PM
1

Within the context of going out to dinner my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:52 PM
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If true, more dudes would pay when asking other dudes to hang out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:20 PM
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The people complaining is the vocal minority who will still be undesirable even when they improve themselves as much as possible. Not only men have that issue
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:10 PM
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I didn’t think of advice from the standpoint of “this is something they’re doing for me” in this scenario, but more of a “this is what you think? What does this say about you as a person?” Like friends who encourage each other to cheat. What does that say about them as a person? Friends who encourage bad financial decisions. What does that say about them? Would better friends not do that? That being said, I have friends who I still love, but acknowledge they are not very good in their own way so…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:37 PM
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True, still hurts imo because there’s still the thought of “all the men in the world, why would she fuck someone that I know and care about?”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:42 PM
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I’m explaining what my opinion on the matter is. If yours differs, I respect that. I’ll clarify: I think when it comes to LTRs, men care about more than just looks, including personality, income, and like mindedness. I think a degree factors into the last 2. As for women, I truly do think that degree/career factors into casual sex to some extent with more woman than men. When I got more money and a better job, women fucked me casually more. It helped get attention to my dating profile where peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:41 PM
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The bf isn’t “helping”, he has no control over the situation I don’t think. Just seems like more of a “this girl clearly isn’t right for you, y’all are done. And since you’re done, I might as well fuck her because you’re done with her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:29 PM
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Yeah, like once he sends the text, would it be “okay” for the friend to fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:17 PM
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How common is a real friend giving terrible advice outside of being immature/inexperienced?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:15 PM
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If the relationship is essentially over already, why can’t the friend get some easy ass? What if the friend texted the bf right before, saying “dude, leave her, she’s trying to fuck me”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:09 PM
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How’s he your friend then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:07 PM
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In the casual scene, yes. Once you are interested in anything further than that, more stuff tends to matter
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:01 PM
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Yep, people like OP are usually racist too. Because then they start saying things like “well white people did _____ so the rest of you didn’t have to” and equating that to some type of superiority
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:09 AM
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I think the point is that men could have. Just like how women could have done a ton of stuff men did. People were just forced into these roles we see, almost all humans are capable of almost all things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:05 AM
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Good take, dude kind of bent back in the other direction weirdly. We all benefit from and need each other collectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:02 AM
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In your opinion, is it most men in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:18 PM
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A.) it’s also a discussion sub, even if the name says debate. If you are only willing to engage with people who are in opposition to your points when this sub is involved, thanks for the info and I will only respond to you when that lines up. Have a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:50 PM
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When did I try and refute what you’re saying? Please show me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:46 PM
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Because quality is subjective especially with something like sex, all we have is the opinions of ourselves, people we know, and people we hear from. I’ve heard your opinion so now you’re part of my experience. And vice versa. That’s part of what makes the sub nice imo. I appreciate your perspective, because it matters. I just don’t like how at times you act like someone else’s perspective doesn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:34 PM
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Nowhere did I say it was equal. Nowhere. I also spoke solely for myself as far as my opinion on cumming not being a 1:1 comparison to quality. All the stuff you just said I did, I did not do. Please be conversationally fair and respectful
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:37 PM
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I think we may have different opinions of what quality sex is. For men like me (not all men, I can only speak anecdotally), cumming is a requirement for good sex of course, but it’s not a 1:1 translation like some people may think. Not for me at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:44 PM
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Imo cumming is generally necessary for quality sex, I agree there. I feel like other factors are necessary as well, but I can only speak on myself for that. That may be because I’m a man and my standards for quality are higher because cumming isn’t special to me. But that’s probably due to my experience of cumming not being hard to come by. Like a guy with decent money vs a guy with little money. $1000 is a quality paycheck to some.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:24 PM
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I don’t think so either, just one of those things that can point out outliers. But even then, no guarantees
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:04 PM
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Yeah a lot of frames can accommodate light weight very well. Sucks when people jump to negative conclusions, and it’s just so classic for people to be rude by default, especially about looks smh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:54 PM
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He said “can be”, I wouldn’t say that he disagrees, just that it’s possible to be in range and not have a good physique. Seems like he said that to show he was asking more about physique than numbers just out of his personal curiosity
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:46 PM
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People may have different opinions of quality sex, but just because I came doesn’t mean it was quality. A girl can just get on her knees or lay on her back or side and I do all the work and cum. That doesn’t make it “quality sex” to me, but that’s just my opinion. Quality is subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:43 PM
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The odds are no higher for either gender. The point is that women have more opportunities to find someone quality. It’s still very bad quality in the pool, that must be said so we agree there
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:41 PM
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Yes, doesn’t mean it’s a high amount though. Just a numbers game. More sex means higher chance they find someone good quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:40 PM
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How common it is for a man to care about the degree status of a woman he is casually dating
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:11 PM
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I never said only casual dating matters, and I was saying not many men cared. Not that no men cared. No study has been done I don’t think so we probably just have two anecdote-based opinions and that’s fine
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 11:59 AM
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Okay agreed, even though we strive we def fall short. what’s the real world answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:33 PM
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I feel like the nuanced take that avoids the (correct) issue you brought up is that everyone should call out bad actors. It’s not the sole job of the community that the bad actor is from.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:11 PM
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Imo a good amount of millennials actually can afford a house with a yard, and not be in too rural of an area. But I respect your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 05:01 PM
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We may have different definitions of “really rural”. What’s the least populated city that you would consider not yet rural?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 04:56 PM
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You’re right as rain for your area, but your comment didn’t say you were only talking about your area. I see now that’s what you meant, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 04:49 PM
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Lol why act like only older people own property with yardage? Big agree on everything else, just struck me as odd
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 04:34 PM
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Yeah but it seems weird to say that in a gendered way when we all know that most human beings have bad compatibility. Seems pointed when one gender is mentioned, then on the back end it’s “well yeah it’s everyone, I was just having a convo about women”. It’s an optics thing. And in conversation, it makes more sense to say things in a way that are more palatable if it can be helped
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:44 PM
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I wouldn’t say most men value pussy above all else (when it comes to serious relationships). I think that crown goes to compatibility. It just seems like men go into a new relationship with end goals at the forefront of their mind until they get that good sense of compatibility first. Even then, some don’t see the forest for the trees (or aren’t concerned about the forest).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:43 PM
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In the comment I responded to, you only mentioned the comment about fucking a degree. From that, I could assume the convo is about casual relationships because the only aspect mentioned was fucking. Now in this comment you’ve made, you built the scenario a little more, and insinuated the comment is in response to a woman’s post about her degree being undervalued in mens eyes in the (serious) dating scene. With this current scenario in mind, my words still ring true. A degree doesn’t aid in attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:21 PM
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A lot of men truly don’t care about a woman’s academic achievement. It doesn’t make them more physically attractive to many. Now if we are talking about committed relationships and life planning, that degree may be seen to come in handy in the eyes of many. But for the casual dating scene, no many men do not care about academic achievement. That’s no stain on men lol there’s way worse rhetoric on this sub. Very surprised you chose that one as an example
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:13 PM
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I’m sitting here agreeing that people don’t owe each other anything, women included. Please don’t mention that again, because I never intended to insinuate anything different. As far as the majority argument, within this sub you may be right (I’m unsure), but irl it seems that many women are still getting with men. And many men are treating women correctly. But that’s anecdotal so I understand my bias
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:55 PM
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I really don’t believe most men think that. There’s some scum on this sub and I think it’s higher represented here than irl. A lot of these idiots are young and parroting things they’ve heard and haven’t even lived yet. They speak on women but haven’t even romantically been with a handful. I wish ignorant people would be quiet instead of spouting misguided opinions, but a lot of ppl on here go straight for the attack (not you)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:52 PM
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It’s just one of those things where it goes without being said that many companions arent good ones
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:50 AM
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Makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:19 AM
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This is the same sentiment minorities have about when others are being racist, and it’s very fair. Calling out people is one of the best things, agree
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:18 AM
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Yeah he will figure it out, or not lol but it’s a fight I can’t have with him anymore. He’s so oddly even keel about it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:25 PM
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I definitely agree, and I wouldn’t have believed it too if I didn’t know some from childhood. You’d think they were great until aaaanything about women in their life came up. Still wonder why. He’s still single. Does well as far as initial dates but he doesn’t seem to push further into stability. I just don’t get him
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:10 PM
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Yea there’s a lot of it, commented on a couple at least
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:48 PM
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That’s the easy way to think, but sometimes people are well adjusted in every way but this one. Saying “oh they’re probably also ____ probably isn’t the best mindset”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:48 PM
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They bring companionship
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:46 PM
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Companionship
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:45 PM
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I acknowledged and thanked the first person with the answer, in no way did I act like I wasn’t already going to listen to them before you said that. Thank you for your response, when I see something wrong is said, I’ll say something
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:41 PM
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Well that answers my question, another person said the same thing, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:21 PM
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Honestly this sub is one of the few places I see that daily. Only reason I’m still on it, actual discourse compared to everywhere else
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:19 PM
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How did you get that from my statement? All I’m saying is the idiots who act like women offer nothing but sex is the minority of us. What more did I say?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:14 PM
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What would have to happen for you to consider that what you’re seeing is a vocal minority? Or at least that there are many men who do not feel that way. A partner is clearly all the emotional value as well, not just sex. That’s clear to anyone not speaking in bad faith (like the men you’re referencing)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:40 PM
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The actions of some women isn’t what groups the women, the fact that all some ppl care about is numbers is what groups women. If the conversation didn’t just stop at “what’s your body count?” But rather a discussion about “what was the nature of your sexual past?”, then things would make more sense all around. And that’s solely the fault of those asking the wrong question (or someone just caring about body count regardless of situation, and in that case it’s their prerogative)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:35 AM
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What aspect of feminism? Fucking a bunch of people isn’t a part of feminism, being able to if you so choose is. It’s about agency my dude, no good human is gonna argue against agency. I’m not saying that’s what you’re doing, but that’s what it can come off as when ppl act as if feminism is saying that ppl should have a bunch of partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:13 AM
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It’s stupid because it groups in people who just wanted casual sex for a decade with people who tried and repeatedly failed at real relationship attempts. There’s no different judgement, just “oh you have _____ bodies, you’re lesser than”. That’s my biggest gripe tbh. Otherwise, it’s just a personal “do I care about someone’s past or not”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:58 AM
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Thanks, I had a slow moment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:47 PM
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I’m not looking for a specific answer, that seemed like commitment on a personal level. I thought we were talking about someone being committed to the relationship/other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:43 PM
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I guess I mean in the relationship context, cuz ppl lie and act all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:37 PM
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That shows commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:16 PM
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My input was towards the first set of questions and direct response to the premise of making a potential guy wait. Just talking about downsides to that. And I think it’s a vocal minority that truly cares. Once ppl grow up, n count matters less and less. If an 18 year old girl fucks one guy every year, she will have over 10 bodies before 30. Body count is stupid when you think about it imo, and I’m speaking to that as well
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:16 PM
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Two things, first is it’s a bad test because what if I want to fuck her and stay? And second, idk who u thought I was but idgaf about a body count as long as someone is safe. Did a lot of assuming there
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:36 PM
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You really don’t think any men willing to commit also wouldn’t prefer to start a relationship off with no sex as some sort of filter test? Cuz I’m one of these dudes. Im in a relationship rn but there were girls before my current one who told me straight up that they wanted to essentially test me, and I didn’t like the implication so I didn’t do it. That makes me a fuckboi?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:31 PM
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How would someone prove commitment with actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:24 PM
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Some people value sex in a way that you’ll come off as incompatible if you don’t seem interested in sex. That cuts down a lot more of the valid dating pool than many would want to cut off
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:20 PM
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Not necessarily, I wouldn’t act like the way your foundation is built means nothing tho
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:52 PM
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Doing less isn’t to be ashamed of when you’re open about it and the person you’re with is fully aware. Some people just feel the need to do more on the inside. Some don’t. I think it’s fair to have different feelings about these different types of people, but I agree with you on the shame part
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:50 PM
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It’s big in the black community
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:44 PM
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Low willpower, not worth it to them, a few reasons. Just depends
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:42 PM
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Women aren’t a monolith, but their friend group has a higher chance of being one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:45 PM
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Are you willing to share the city name and maybe link to likeminded ppl (not for me, but I recognize it’s a need)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:39 PM
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They’re starting up some all woman communities to give people who seek it this kind of comfort. Would you be interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:32 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:30 PM
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I’m not trying to say it’s isolated, sorry. I’m asking does it have to be many cases, or does it have to be big cases to fit your criteria in general? And where do you tend to draw the line at for “many”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 02:37 PM
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That case where Ahmad Aubrey got shot by those racists who thought he was stealing is an example of a big case that got a lot of media attention
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:57 PM
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Do you think it would have to be a reoccurring thing in modern time to count, or would big polarizing cases be enough since they are viewed by a lot of people
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:47 PM
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Lol guess I’m a softie from my nonviolent experiences of hate being a minority, so my personal involvement may be coloring things, thanks for the response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:43 PM
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Imo all hate speech isn’t the same. It should still be banned all the same though. Explicit question for you, do you think that hate speech that doesn’t correlate to violence should be able to exist on Reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 12:39 AM
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That is absolutely true. That doesn’t mean that the sub or the larger mantras from it are supporting if any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 12:36 AM
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You…still aren’t answering the question of which came first. If your answer is that they came simultaneously, then I understand, but you aren’t directly responding to the prompt so I wasn’t exactly sure
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:16 PM
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That didn’t answer the question of which came first. Symptoms aren’t always starting at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:52 PM
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Are they different than famous ppl of other ethnicities? Or are there just fewer of them that are famous so it’s a token thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:39 PM
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By that I meant questioning it’s free use and lack of “holup” moments
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 07:59 PM
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The only way to hold men accountable is to not deal with the ones who do things you aren’t willing to deal with. Nothing else will ever work
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 04:56 PM
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You’re surprised? Lol the black equivalent of chad is called Tyrone. Never saw one person question that up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 04:54 PM
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It acts as if a woman can’t possibly have the views she’s portraying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 04:51 PM
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That isn’t an explicit answer to the question. It’s a good point still imo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 01:19 AM
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How does he know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:35 AM
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It doesn’t only move in one direction. Look at Texas
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 03:18 PM
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This didn’t read as an excuse to me, I thought analyzing dating norms was a big part of why we come to the sub
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:28 PM
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That’s how it is now. It wasn’t always this way. I don’t think it always will be
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:04 PM
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If that’s how someone thinks, isn’t it negative that you’re judging the way they are? Saying that’s not how you are is enough
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:01 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 11:05 PM
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Real shit why did you correlate dick length to height lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 11:02 PM
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Is it just a nice community, or do you also live in a high cost state/area?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 09:39 PM
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Well I mean they’re literally different points and have nothing to do with each other for starters. They’re both bad tho
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 08:32 PM
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Remember, nature intends nothing. Men being incredibly heinous controlling assholes for all of history is also nature. I’m glad we are at a point where most ppl don’t want to do that going forward. And for the last time, most men are not intimidated by women who are studious and successful. A lot of the guys who are seen as intimidated have been fed the story that women will refuse to have anything to do with you if they make more than you. If it’s true, makes sense to keep distance. If it’s not…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 08:31 PM
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Boffum
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 01:22 PM
1

Why are people commenting when they don’t fit the criteria asked for?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 01:21 PM
1

Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:42 AM
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Lmao cuck has nothing to do with fighting, is adding terms just what you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 11:29 PM
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But isn’t that stupid to think when your explanation is pretty easy to understand and way more logical?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:45 PM
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It feeling good is how. I mean it’s no more simple than that. Someone is able to feel good, so they then made themselves feel good with the help of someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:42 PM
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You can still work to change things. The brain learns and adapts to an extent. If you aren’t trying, that should count against you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:41 PM
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Your answer wasn’t inflammatory and edgy enough, pls try again
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:22 PM
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I’m not disagreeing with you, what I’m trying to say is that I’m asking everyone what they think, because I wanted to hear as many opinions as possible. Just out of pure interest, it’s not a needing or wanting to help type of situation. I wondered something and asked
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:39 AM
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I meant only physically and should have used the terms average throughout instead of mentioning value at all
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:32 AM
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This isn’t a me thing, but that wasn’t the point. The question is what about the comment was emasculating. I think a lot of ppl can be better, was just answering a question lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:14 AM
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Mexico is also bad. I should have clarified
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 04:51 AM
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The relationship between genetics and the concept of instincts/attraction are always interesting (and never cut and dry). I wonder if we will even begin to figure more out in 200 years
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:41 AM
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Yea, we both do well but him even more than me. I knew something was up when it just wasn’t the same for either of us lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:06 AM
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I wonder if me and my friend being men and you being a woman has anything to do with it. My sister also had no issues and she went to a pwi. None of my black girl friends either
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:02 AM
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I’m not asking about options, I’m asking people to describe what average man is to them and to try and give descriptors that wouldn’t also apply to low (or high) value/attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:53 AM
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Oh like a story? Okay, my friend is a POC and is considered attractive in all the POC circles I’ve been in growing up, in school etc. we both ended up going to the same university in the south. We were both a couple of the only POCs at most of the freshman parties that first year. We are pretty sociable and made a lot of friends, as far as romance, a lot of the single girls weren’t attracted. The parties back home or at other friends campuses with more POCs, it was more positive results. I would…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:46 AM
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What you’re saying sounds like examples, not a definition. Are you saying it’s like the promise of more, the expectation to go all the way?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:15 AM
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Define commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:06 AM
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I experienced/heard what I said, I was asking about what you heard/experienced because it seems like it differed and I wanted to hear about it. Not being combative, trying to respect** your difference of opinion/experience
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:04 AM
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Not all relationships have this, unless I’m misunderstanding. What do you mean by commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:02 AM
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What have you experienced/heard about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:01 AM
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Okay, most people in the west. You talk to so many people up here you forget about the minority that’s from elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:21 PM
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Nah I try and stay at least cordial with people I’ve been with, things just go simpler that way imo. I just feel like there’s a crowd who judges women for making mistakes that they could have only avoided if they were like super pessimistic, and idk how sustainable or fun that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:51 PM
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Wouldn’t a guy who just happens to be attractive seem as if he’s falling into that pattern? Not trying to be too soft, but I truly think it’s not possible to tell without just assuming the worst
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:37 PM
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An example doesn’t help much, does that fit into the former or latter group I referenced? Or a different group alltogether?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:36 PM
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Seems like the minority of people, given most people are at least overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:35 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:34 PM
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That’s just switching the word average with attractive just because it’s women answering the question. Women here have answered the question and this hasn’t been the popular thought from what I’ve seen. They seem to say that average would be below the top 20% of guys. But that’s not representative of everyone, just those who answered
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:34 PM
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I know it’s subjective, but I wonder if that subjectivity is only person to person, or if it also varies based on the situation of the individual person. Like a friend of mine was overweight, and as she lost weight, certain parts of her social life changed as well (and not speaking for her) but it seemed as if her feelings towards different types of people also changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:31 PM
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Charisma doesn’t make a fuckboy. Isn’t it by definition the hit and quit bullshitter attitude? You can’t know someone is a fuckboy until after they do something to you (or you hear from someone). I just don’t like the notion that people actively seek out things they don’t want/things that are negative. Makes more sense that they didn’t know/or at least didn’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:29 PM
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I feel like people would fare a little better if they thought this way
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:27 PM
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If you’re ascribing the wolf definition yes, but these terms now have their own human definitions and do exist. An alpha describes an attractive guy who is successful in personal and business life. These people exist. That’s what the term means now. I don’t like it either, but you can’t just say it doesn’t exist when someone has repurposed the term and it’s now used widely
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:53 PM
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How do women overcome this environmental track?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:51 PM
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Do you gravitate toward fuckboys or just attractive men, then they happen to be fuckboys because being attractive just raises the odds? I feel like sometimes women sell themselves short with verbiage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:49 PM
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Wouldn’t the average person have to compensate as well? Or would he just be good enough to looksmatch with an average/below average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:46 PM
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How is the red pill perfect for me based on my sexual preferences? And if I’m misunderstanding, about what? But nvm you don’t want to talk anymore and that’s your right
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:45 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:43 PM
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No, I can have sex that is very enjoyable and great imo without her riding or sucking dick. I literally see those things as whatever. Wouldn’t be upset if it never happened again as long as I had the other stuff. I’m being dead serious. I know it’s weird, but that’s just me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:36 PM
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There’s a reason I didn’t use the “question for women” flair. Not only interested in womens opinion on this. But I see that you also gave your opinion so I appreciate it fr!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:34 PM
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This particular question isn’t asking about it requires hvm mindset. I get what you’re saying about a lot of the sub, but it literally doesn’t apply on this specific post imo. And I know average dudes who ascribe to abs understand the red pill. They just won’t ever live the life of a higher value dude, that’s not required to understand certain things (my post being one of them). Again, I do get what you’re saying though in a general sense
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:31 PM
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You’re telling me that I haven’t had experiences just because I have preferences. That’s weird. I have had experiences, and through the, I’ve decided what I wanted. I just prefer to be on top and truly do not like riding as much. Not saying it doesn’t feel good or isn’t hot, I just literally don’t care for it. I don’t care for head either
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:29 PM
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You’re like an average girl in the way that there are high sex options for you because the gay community is more lenient with it. This is why you don’t understand. Women don’t usually understand either
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:28 PM
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The fact that you can’t jump straight to being a husband. The other shit happens first, and if you don’t fit the bill to be in the starting position, how the hell are you supposed to even get to the point where husband material matters?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:26 PM
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Ngl im more dominant in bed so my view of sex is skewed. I don’t like riding and want the woman to be on bottom, so the quality of sex has little to nothing to do with her actual effort (weird I know)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:21 PM
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Ah so to women, average means “good looking enough”?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:20 PM
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Being white is also different than the inverse, but that cuts negatively in some ways and positively in others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:19 PM
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I’m a hvm asking the perspectives of others on something that I see argued over within the sub. You’ve fallen into the classic trap of thinking just because someone talks about something, it’s about them or encompasses them in some way. That’s not the case all of the time, and isn’t here. If the sub is goofy, it’s because people are goofy. I’m just asking what people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:18 PM
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My apologies but we aren’t talking about dating. Just looks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:17 PM
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There’s no downside to assume they’re lying, so I would also go with this as my default. Why would someone tell the truth if it wouldn’t be good for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:16 PM
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I think in times it would be more negative, like I guess the inverse is more common of a POC being around white people. In those situations, they’re usually going to get less responses/attention
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:14 PM
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So women would call the guys within the bottom of their interest threshold average?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:13 PM
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Even within the west there are times where, for example, a white guy is around a lot of non white people. His experiences may be different if he was around more white people
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:05 PM
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Thanks, hopefully this helps these types of guys realize that they need to do something with their actions because their physical being just isn’t doing it. Now the how, that’s what they’ll have to figure out next
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:04 PM
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The last part makes me think that this could be different in different populations, which makes some sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:01 PM
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Okay, what’s the difference between the men you refer to and a below average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:00 PM
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So your opinion of “average” is more so the ‘not too good/not too bad’ camp?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:59 PM
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Idk if it’s right to extrapolate sex quality from non sexual actions, is that what you’re saying or am I misreading?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:57 PM
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Definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:55 PM
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So average is desirable, or it’s in between undesirable and desirable? Because if it’s the latter, that’s just a different flavor of undesirable right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:50 PM
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So in your opinion, the SMV scale is kind of representative of relative worth compared to other men (a 5/10 means 50% of dudes are above/below)?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:49 PM
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This post is a good bridge to the point you’re making, just kind of rude to not answer my question before going into what you wanted to talk about. That being said, I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:42 PM
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Very true, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:41 PM
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I truly think that incels should pay for sex just to get that initial one out of the way so they can face the boogeyman in a sense. It won’t solve the problems that prevent them from getting a mate naturally, but it will at least show them what this shit is at the end of the day. Thinking back to me as a teenager, I had no idea what sex was actually like until I had it. I can’t imagine what it’s like to have that same feeling in my 20s and beyond
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:39 PM
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If there’s nothing actually wrong with the relationship between you and the wife, it’s because the guy believes he can have his cake and eat it too. He thinks that he has enough energy to have sex on the side and still keep things good at home. He thinks “extra sex is a positive, why not?” He thinks that sex with more than one woman is preferable, so he does it. Nothing deeper. Now if there are problems at home, that explains things in a different way
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:37 PM
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Man here, but since women know that a guy wouldn’t be able to get over this, they would just lie to get the desired result. You would never ever know in 99% of instances
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:34 PM
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Are you saying yes to both, or the latter? Because in my country, a small percentage of people are thin tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:33 PM
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I think people aren’t referring to sociability when saying they are average, but seeing as how important that actually is, maybe they should
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:31 PM
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Thanks mate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:30 PM
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Kind of like how someone is more willing to buy something if they see it as a deal, even if it might not actually be?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:25 PM
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Ohhh okay. What makes you think the sex is mediocre at best and the women are hard to be around? I kind of missed where that came in
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:24 PM
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True, I’m thinking that may be exception level of low at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:23 PM
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So would you see that as 50% of men being above/below this, or you would describe him as more so “not too good/not too bad”?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:22 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:21 PM
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Thanks, so is that “okay” (not too good/not too bad) or 50% of men above/below 3/10?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:21 PM
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This isn’t me we’re talking about, just trying to explain the mindset and why generalizations are useful with their goals
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:18 PM
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Weird how even in those fringe herbivore male communities, the sexual demand for men haven’t really gone up. When women are the consumer, supply and demand don’t track normally in the sexual marketplace it seems. But I could be wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:17 PM
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Understandable, things seem to trend even though individual thoughts vary. So I guess I’m asking for individual opinions that I can look over myself. Do you have one on the subject?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:15 PM
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Yes, I’m asking if there are any more descriptors that would separate an average man from a below average one. What you said would apply to a below average man as well as an average one it seems. Is there anything else you can describe that is more specific to an average dude? I know I’m asking subjective things, so just answer it in your personal opinion or what you think others believe
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:13 PM
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Seems like they know that, but it’s seen as a good enough catch all to not try and do more work to specialize approaches/actions based on the type of woman you’re talking to because “this has good enough odds to work anyways, not worth the extra effort”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:09 PM
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Is there anything more descriptive than that? Maybe in relation to the things I mentioned? Because there are below average guys that don’t get noticed too. Is there anything more descriptive of the specific type of guy I’m asking about
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:05 PM
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Can you express your opinion within the framework of the two options I listed? Because a Low value man also wouldn’t make someone’s head turn, but that’s “under” the average man we are talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:03 PM
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Does this happen in your personal life? Everyone with credentials I’ve seen gets default ears lent in my life. Is there somewhere I can experience what you’re talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:56 PM
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How long will it take them (their subconscious) to adjust to the real current world where your baby is in little to no danger regardless of what you do or say? Gets tiresome, having the reasons for things being something that made sense hundreds of years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:48 PM
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didn’t mention the lifestyle, i’m wrong for resaying money
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:04 AM
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not an implication but a question of if the sexual value itself is worth the effort to set up the act (for you personally)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:30 AM
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i always thought booty calls were less infrequent but that could just be me not growing up with the term in its popularity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:23 PM
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sometimes, but those situations tend to catch feelings faster. i’ve seen that the fwbs that are light on the friend part and heavy on the benefits part has a lower risk of catching feelings. but ask yourself this, if you have a friend who you spend time with but also have sex with, what makes that not a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:15 PM
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where’s the need to hang out with them outside of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:10 PM
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that’s either a girth issue or your partner not being gentle enough (user error). you can be bad at sex with a big dick, it’s just easier. but a “crazy big dick” is even more rare than big, so even less people will have that type of experience
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:13 PM
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I mentioned it in a failed attempt to show that i’m not disregarding it. i believe that field still falls under the umbrella of doing what you want. some people want to seek after things that aren’t easy or don’t benefit them but benefit others. that’s their prerogative. i believe in life, best thing you can do is just that. i don’t think you necessarily disagree with this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:11 PM
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that would still fall under the umbrella of “what they want”. i’m in a profession typically categorized by selfless work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:05 PM
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there being more to life than doing what you can to get what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:57 PM
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the person i replied to mentioned ppd, my response was to that broader group
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:37 PM
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Because it feels good in the moment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:20 PM
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That’s besides the point. And what benefit is there to being better? I will choose to be whatever gets me what I want. No other purpose to life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:20 PM
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Is there something about women that makes this complain bonding a thing? Men do it too, but bragging is seen and encouraged in manosphere, usually more than complaints. The whole “I’m trying to get like you” trope. Do women not have that? Is there something behind that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:13 PM
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Eh, I’ve seen lying work repeatedly. I’ve lied and got what I wanted. I’ve been lied to and given someone what they wanted. Works a lot. Fails a lot. All about the skills of the person lying and the vetting/care of the person being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:09 PM
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Yea I usually tolerate venting when it’s a close person, not a random person. I can’t speak to every/most people, but anecdotally, people don’t care about each other any further than the point where a story stops becoming interesting. And even then, it’s not like caring will translate to action. Especially if the action is at “my expense”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:05 PM
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Do you think that the genders typically aren’t interested in each other’s viewpoints and mindsets?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:55 PM
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There’s a reason this is seldom the case comparatively
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:51 PM
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They want to be the ones who get slept with, therefore they act however they think will get them the best chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:48 PM
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Exactly. The fixing will always step on someone’s toes so to speak. “No one” wants to hear that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:45 PM
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I think both of us agree that the scenario you explained is not what TRP is endorsing. An argument can be made that it inadvertently breeds such behavior though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:30 PM
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It’s good because it’s yours!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:28 PM
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I thought they believed that it’s mens nature to at some point want a harem. Wouldn’t you agree that the average dude at some point in their life sees the prospect of multiple attractive women wanting him to have sex as ideal? Doesn’t sound too wild of a concept
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:28 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:24 PM
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Lol the money and high free time lifestyle are also factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:24 PM
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Men and women are generally not the same, and don’t want to be treated the same. There will never be an agreement on how much is nature v how much is nurture, and much like privileged people everywhere, no one likes to admit when they have it better than another group because “it’s not a competition”. No one said it was, it’s called a comparison, and if you don’t want to have it, don’t respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:20 PM
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Real shit, why do these posts exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:17 PM
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Ahhh, I kinda wanted to know about your explicit opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:15 PM
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Do you still feel this way or that’s only how you felt back then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:08 PM
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70+ % of women also haven’t been with a dude with a big dick that can hit more spots either. People say size doesn’t matter, when most people have never had size (because it’s rare).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:44 PM
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Yeah, I don’t see where we disagree at all. I don’t see where you disagree with the other guy either, you’re just adding nuance and explanation behind the raw data. That’s a good thing. It just seems like you have some energy behind what you’re saying as if someone is opposing you, when from my viewpoint we all actually agree. Does it seem like I disagree with you somewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:41 PM
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Is it possible for you to just want them for things other than conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:39 PM
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That would fall under being with one dude tho, I didn’t mean one guy ever, just monogamy. So you’re a hoe if you have uncommitted sex, or is there an extent that’s just “normal” activity?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:37 PM
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Is there some level in between being a hoe and being with one dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:35 PM
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I at no point said men are targeted because they are men. I’m just trying to figure out your position as far as who is subjected to violence more often. So in your opinion, who is subjected to violence more often? I think we can both agree than men are overwhelmingly the aggressor, no matter who the victim is
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:31 PM
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You aren’t denying that men die at the hands of violence more than women. I think this is what the guy you’re responding to is talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:27 PM
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Not for no reason though, they’re young and in many cases not even out of undergrad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:26 PM
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What you’re saying isn’t really in opposition to op, you’re just explaining the why behind the plain comment. And general health and survivability kind of goes without saying
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:24 PM
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Yes, and the only way to change something that is socially reinforced is through conscious pushback. Ideally, not just from the victims, but the bystanders and active players as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 06:58 AM
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I feel as if it’s more so tied to it for women solely because men go through positive social influence related to casual sex whereas women go through the opposite. Just comparing women to men, it’s less likely for men to be having casual sex as a result of trauma or self with issues just due to the higher chance of it being for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:24 PM
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Someone who doesn’t see sex as something special and just something enjoyable doesn’t necessarily have low self respect just because he has a lot of it. Mindset is heavily tied into whether or not an action is a sign of low self respect
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:06 PM
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Did they not teach you about politics and your geopolitical landscape growing up?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:48 PM
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You have to be real with yourself that society pays men on the back for sexual success differently than it does for women. Men are egged on to get sexual experience. This would logically lessen the likelihood that they’re doing it due to trauma, because there’s more of a chance that there are other social works at play. Still the chance of trauma, clearly less so
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:44 PM
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Poor bloke didn’t even want to know
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:42 PM
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The main difference is that men are expected to make these decisions regardless of primitive nature. It does dehumanize women that it’s a sort of “it’s helpless” situation, but…if they cared that much then they would break the mold en masse. They don’t. Men wouldn’t either if they were in that position, because we’re all human. It’s just one of us is in the preferable position now. Back when men were in the preferable position, they eventually gave up the power. Women will not do the same. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:40 PM
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Ah so it’s a verbiage thing. That’s fair and understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:28 PM
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What’s the issue with sex coming quicker nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:36 PM
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Is part of your stressors in dating coming from having expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:35 PM
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I only had a couple experiences where women I was not considering romantically at all expected me to do more than them/cater to them. It was the whole “you drive when we hang out cuz you’re the man/you choose where we go/you pay more when things have to be split/you should compliment us/help me find guys but I won’t help you find girls” thing. I want to believe that’s the minority of women, has been in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:32 PM
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That isn’t what happened in the scenario I gave. I was luckily well adjusted and went through nothing major as a child. I literally had it easier than my sister by all accounts and did not struggle. I was a brat out of my ignorance and lack of empathy for my sis. In a scenario such as this, is it okay to tip your hand as far as verbalizing one kid having it harder? (This isn’t a statement on men v women, just a very micro instance I wanted your opinion on, I don’t have kids yet but have thought …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:28 PM
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Would you do it if you believed it was true that someone has it worse? Tangentially related, growing up, my sister had some mental problems. Me being a kid, I didn’t realize or care and tried to get as much time as her or get as much sympathy for my problems. One day my mom explained things to me and how my sister needed more help and attention because she was in a worse place. I grew up a lot that day. If you had 2 children in a similar position, do you think it would be wrong to explain that o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:19 PM
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Personally I hate being seen with multiple different dates at a place I’m a regular at, just feels like people are noticing my dating life lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:15 PM
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Do you disagree, or have issue with even giving the notion that one has it worse thought because it shouldn’t matter who tends to have it worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:11 PM
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Not all men find/use TRP because they are unsatisfied/unsuccessful. I (and others) found it randomly and stayed because we agreed that it accurately describes most dating dynamics and how most women act/think, when the rest of the world seems to want to hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:01 PM
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Men didn’t unilaterally create this. Women at the time believed it too. Women now believe it too. Not all, but enough to keep this going. If the overwhelming majority of women said “fuck this, the way I am isn’t inferior, it’s different. I’m not going to judge myself or other women, and refuse to interact with men who do”, then men would fall right in line. Women have the power. Everything they don’t like that men do, they could change if they moved together on it. But like every movement ever, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:59 PM
2

How do you personally decide/navigate this fear?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:55 PM
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Depends on your definition of need, or it’s application. You don’t need anything, because you control your life and how it goes. You can feed yourself and grow old without a woman. You can have a biological kid without a relationship with a woman, but you do need the woman so idk how you would categorize that. You need some of the women in the workforce, but not on a personal level so idk if you count that. People don’t need each other for interpersonal relationships. People usually just want it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:53 PM
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And by that time it’s too late so to speak, I understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:05 AM
1

Idk about odds are, but I agree wholeheartedly that the odds would improve drastically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:06 PM
1

We were talking about what influences in life cause women to not be as forward in romantic conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:00 PM
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? Lol so you have to get one of these women first, then word spreads. So essentially it’s of not help unless you actually didn’t need the help in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:59 PM
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Do women hear this regularly throughout life? When they get to a certain age? Only within certain settings? I feel like family is a big culprit for some of these, which definitely matters and is an influence for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:43 PM
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There is no proven correlation between tall people and bigger penises. Moderate or otherwise. The only thing that can be objectively said about it is that skinnier people have less of a fat pad around the base of the penis, making the visible (and available for sex) length longer. There may in fact also be a correlation between height and how skinny someone is, but outside of that reach I just fabricated, there is no data suggesting anything statistically significant. Like at all my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:41 PM
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Yeah, they just truly are a part of society as well. What in modern society is urging women to settle? And are they more or less of a general influence than someone’s social groups?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:39 PM
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How is it an expectation if your social group is advocating the opposite? Wouldn’t that factor into what’s expected? Or you’re saying friend group is one of the few things in life going against that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:35 PM
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No, black men still go after black women more. I would think all races within America (or developed nation X) would likely end up with their own race
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:33 PM
1

Can you tell me where these people exist, and how you can float them the stats on your dick without being jailed? Because this shit seems to not be applicable in life. How the hell can I get women to know that before it’s time to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:32 PM
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“Presumably large cock? What the hell are you talking about lol?” No insinuation of this exists, science keeps telling us this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:29 PM
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Thanks for clarifying!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:28 PM
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That’s a war story thing, not a group of dudes actively discouraging moving forward with a potential partner. These things seem to have overlap, but I think the distinction matters
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:24 PM
2

The fantasy of thinking he badly wants to be with you. Is it reinforced positively or negatively once he actually starts showing signs of being attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:23 PM
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“Well shouldn’t you?” -certain people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:22 PM
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You really think this doesn’t happen in high school?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:19 PM
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That’s far after the relationship is established and is about how he acts with the woman, not the woman on her own merit. A fair comparison would be guys joking about a dude talking to a girl they consider ugly or fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:17 PM
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Does the man showing signs of wanting you help this, or does it hurt it by putting reality in the place of fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:14 PM
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A strong family u it helps everything. Not going as far as saying it’s the problem, idk
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:06 PM
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Does covering yourself subconsciously lead to an aversion of being direct and forward in romantic conversations somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:55 PM
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I’m from the southeastern US, maybe I’ve just been lucky. I get the revealing clothing thing, most parents don’t want their daughters doing that. Are you saying that translates to women being averse to conversations about romantic interest? Seems tangentially related at best, but that’s only my perspective so I’m trying to hear about others
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:40 PM
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true, not like this is a DM. May just be a me thing to just speak directly by default
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:20 PM
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If we’re talking america here, Christianity is the main religion here. What denominations are harping on being passive in the modern era? I legit never ever see or hear about this in any church me or anyone I have ever known has been to. Have you seen this? (I agree on media and other women)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:08 PM
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That’s not me tho. You’re talking to me, and individual. Isn’t it wrong to not act as such?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:00 PM
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Where do women learn #2? Is this being said anywhere outside of just what we see on the big or silver screen? Is anyones parents or friends really saying “don’t be direct or obvious girl”?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:57 PM
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You keep saying that part without provocation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:55 PM
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I’m talking about the use of the term “often”, not the use of the term “men”. I see that you don’t mean most of us or “the average man”, so I understand you, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:54 PM
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The fact that men do this more than women isn’t what would make the term “often” correct. Often kind of insinuates that the average man would do this. I’m not saying that’s your intention, but that’s how it comes off
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:50 PM
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Nothing, you’re on one side of this. The people on the other side don’t believe what you just agreed to, or don’t care enough to even fathom the differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:45 PM
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So you do care about the dating experiences and struggles of some men? It seems like that’s what you’re getting at
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:40 PM
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They can help it the same way men can help being attracted to unrealistic shit due to porn. Stop feeding yourself the dream. If the dream of a man taking care of you wasn’t fed, then it wouldn’t be as important as it is for some people. Part of that is socialization, but when you grow up, you can break the cycle down to an extent. A lot of people don’t, because “why would they?”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:38 PM
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It’s wrong to say that men go to harassing and violence often. I would only use the term “often” when something is likely, or close to 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:35 PM
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This is a dating/SMP sub. Any other facets of life we are not talking about. Why are you mentioning other parts of life, they are irrelevant here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:32 PM
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A small percentage of people are vindictive and do things that their partner wouldn’t like in a way to lash out. I want to believe that this isn’t most people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:28 PM
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Prompts like this truly show how easy it is to lack perspective. Chads aren’t devoid of feelings. They just have options. If one of these options matters enough to him, they will commit. Think of chads like women. They have options, so it will usually take something not as common to get them wanting to go all in. Casual sex is a default, relationships are beyond that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:24 PM
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Very true, Black Lives Matter learned this as well
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 12:34 AM
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Can’t fault you for sharing your experience
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 12:34 AM
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Yes and no. Yes on an individual level, but no on the level of an entire group. You can’t get into specifics, so you give the generalization and within that there’s the common sense that results and experiences may very, so use context. It’s up to the individual to use their experience as context. Not the mantra itself. It would be unrealistic to expect something different from something that’s made for a large group of people. That being said, the guys who don’t use context are selling themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:51 PM
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Nothing, they still get interaction. If they aren’t finding commitment from the guys they find near the top, they can search lower. Their power comes from the ability to make choices. They are fine
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:44 PM
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You need to use medians when discussing human beings dude, averages are the inferior stat. The guy making 0 dollars and the guy making billions will skew the average. The median matters more. Please use median going forward
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:42 PM
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That’s one example, but more commonly two people just don’t work out, and you look around __ years later and you haven’t found anyone “better” than that. So what do you do? You settle
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:39 PM
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You’re missing a key part of the perspective. To settle in this context is to not have chose the best option you had. The way odds work, people most likely will not end uk with their “best option”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:35 PM
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Have you thought about the fact that these are strategies? In order to employ the strategy, you see things in generalizations or absolutes in order to keep your own actions consistent. Outliers will “outly”, but if I treat all women like _____, then my results will be semi consistent as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:34 PM
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That’s just the human condition. Think about it, what are the odds that someone with multiple relationship experiences actually ends up with what they would have considered the best one in hindsight? Especially given the fact that most relationships don’t work out. Ofc most people will feel they’ve settled
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:32 PM
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Generally speaking, wouldn’t other men have a better understanding of how many TRP people there are than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:27 PM
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A lot of times you can’t tell effort until after you’ve chosen to engage with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:24 PM
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Because doing so works out for them. If it didn’t work, they would do what does work. I’m speaking generally here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:19 PM
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Oh I mean something actually happening after feelings develop. There is always some action that takes it from platonic to romantic. Someone has to move first
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 12:54 AM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:45 PM
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Do you just have a type or just generally attracted to a very highly touted person?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:38 PM
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So generally someone is pretty damn ugly unless they’re pretty attractive? With very few ppl in the middle?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:26 PM
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You didn’t say anything about that woman’s looks, how can we assume she isn’t conventionally attractive? Is there some general trend of conventionally attractive women seeing masculine men as attractive? I just actually didn’t catch how you got to the guy not being attracted to “that type of woman”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:59 PM
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I thought you were going to tackle dating dynamics, not common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:55 PM
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I was saying how possible is it (for the large amount of women out there to get with the undeniably smaller group of ideal men). They can see them on the app, or irl, but the odds of ever interacting are low
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:53 PM
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Tons of the normal people from your school are now broke and overweight. Better to have loved and lost
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:46 PM
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How is this a response to what I’m saying? Or even directly related to the discussion we were having?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:42 PM
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Is the dichotomy between attractive and unattractive that large?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:36 PM
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Still not a lot when you’re comparing the amount of men that check all those boxes, then look at the number of women who would want them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:10 PM
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Yea, just equals out to them being privileged. Good for them, not much can be done
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:50 PM
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They only say it when they aren’t the ones benefitting. Just like calling someone “too easy”. They say that when it’s not them getting the sex. Please don’t believe that counts, it’s just jealousy talking
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:47 PM
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How does something naturally turn into more? Someone has to do something to someone to progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:45 PM
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Those people could then approach
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:42 PM
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A lot of people made those debt choices while they were teens. Still their faults, it’s just rather understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:38 PM
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How possible is that when there are very few people who have all of these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:31 PM
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How did dealings between the guy and the next door neighbor go after that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:35 PM
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Age of consent is 16 in many countries and parts of America. Seems weird right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:44 PM
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The unprotected part had him shook, if it was me, I would have had a condom ready. Imagine getting a disease because someone grinded on you bare though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:01 PM
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Situationally I agree, but therein lies some of the luck. Being in the correct proximity of a woman (social circle) allows you to show that personality off, where looks can get you at least in the door easier if there’s no chance of social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:42 PM
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I think all people can be lovable, and most people can be desirable without divine intervention type luck/ability. I truly don’t know what to say to the people who don’t fall into that, it really must suck for them. I think a lot of people here don’t fit into that last group though, but think they do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:36 PM
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Could she not put in work for herself as well, like riding?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:26 PM
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Me and my friends are mostly black so we aren’t chads by definition, but you made me think more about how we are perceived vs how we feel about ourselves, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:16 PM
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Saying “Chads are boring as hell”, then mentioning all of the traits you did in juxtaposition to the first sentence definitely insinuates it. I understand that it may not have been your intention, I just was confused by that one point
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:13 PM
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Respected response, I guess I just differ. I wouldn’t call any of the scenarios using unless there was prevalent intent to have self serving sex. I do believe a lot of people do this though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:43 PM
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All the things you listed isn’t mutually exclusive with being a chad
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:39 PM
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I just think it’s a slippery (pun intended) slope when relating sexual inadequacy with being used. It can cut both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:38 PM
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When you regurgitate something, it usually isn’t the same product as when it was scarfed down
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:34 PM
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Since she’s letting people know she’s looking for a band aid, people who aren’t looking for that can avoid her easier. That’s why being honest is inherently positive. It’s also harder to be used when you’re honest, because there’s less plausible deniability if someone tries to use you and acts like your intentions or expectations weren’t clear
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:33 PM
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I still don’t align with the verbiage. It’s not like the woman is typically putting more effort in than the man. Usually in sex, the man is the one doing more work. How can he be using, when he is the one putting more work in? Because he got an orgasm along with the sex? If that’s the case, is it using if they both achieve orgasm? And is the woman using the man if she does less work but they both cum? Is she using him if she cums and he doesn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:31 PM
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Being identifiable is all someone needs to do to remain positive imo. Since she’s clearly looking to be a ‘bandaid’, people who aren’t willing can know to avoid. People who are, know to engage, and they have less competition from guys who would have went for it if they didn’t know she was looking for a ‘bandaid’. Also, it’s harder to get used when you’re open about what you want because it’s more clear if someone you’re with crosses that already explained banner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:25 PM
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The glaring part about this is that you think hvm alphas aren’t in LTRs. There truly is a time where options and the song and dance of meeting and being casual with women gets old. Like really old. Sometimes you want something steady with someone you like. That isn’t beta by nature dude, alphas do it. They just do it by choice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:04 PM
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“Just got out of a relationship, still upset over it in a few ways but I’m trying to get out there and have new experiences to move on”. I’ve seen this on tinder bios nearly word for word and I’ve heard anecdotal sentiments of the same. Some people wouldn’t want to deal with this type of person I agree, but good on them for letting people know. Decent number of people just looking for the ‘right now’, or at least willing to see where things go without expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:01 PM
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The person mentioned being open. This would prevent the band aid feeling
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:50 PM
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Seems like y’all agree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:09 PM
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Why do we call it using, when both parties got sex? One person wanting more doesn’t mean that they ended up getting less. They both got the same exact thing, sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:08 PM
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I don’t think anyone can argue against what you’ve just said. You’re right here at least and if you see anyone agreeing here or deflecting saying the thought process shouldn’t be had in the first place is just not wanting to admit the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 03:42 PM
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This is kind of besides the point of the post, I thought when he wrote shit test, it would be like a one off instance to see how someone would react in the future. What you’re referring to (being someone’s only trauma dump, filling someone to bursting) would have to build up
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:05 PM
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People are, just with difference in preferential feed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:57 PM
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Any time I run into it, their standards just are higher than what they can pull
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:55 PM
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I agree and didn’t intend to insinuate the contrary with my sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:56 PM
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Broke is one thing, but less than you doesn’t necessarily mean that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:20 AM
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They’re jealous that an alpha is able to get girls so easy, he can be an abusive asshole and still get women. Yeah be lucky you don’t have to rub elbows with people like that, it’s the opposite of a good vibe
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:45 AM
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The increased std risk probably still scares away some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:39 AM
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Guys who do that are jealous of the alphas success. And the alpha (in this scenario) isn’t abusing and being an asshole to his friends. He’s doing that to the girl, and the jealous guys are asking why the girl puts up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:38 AM
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Nah alphas are cool and laid back because shit is goin good. They’re a blast to be around, why wouldn’t they bet?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:34 AM
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Tall skinny white guys? What world do you live on, these guys would do just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:30 AM
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Isn’t that part of their status in a baked in sort of way?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:28 AM
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A lot more of them than the average person would think I reckon. That being said, saying all women are like Grimes is pretty unbelievable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:23 AM
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You may not believe me, but I actually had conversations with a lot of these people. We were talking about normal approaches, not inherently creepy ones. Related tho, the inherently creepy ones are what turned off some women to approaches in general, which sucks. Again, just my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:34 PM
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This goes back to the whole “we don’t disagree” thing. I didn’t oppose any of what you just said. Only clarification I would add is that there’s usually not much negative that happens to the man approaching, but different women have told me in different instances about how being cold approached scares them or makes them uncomfortable. Value that as much or as little as you see fit, but ijs because a lot of people don’t realize that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:18 PM
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What you’re saying happens, what I’m saying happens. The frequency may be where we disagree at. It could also be cultural. I’m black, and within my culture a lot of women are flat out avoidant like looking down or away, having headphones in, making sure not to make eye contact or give any signal they want to talk when out in public. especially around a black male. This is because they think that black men would be more likely to approach. But seriously, my experience is only my own and what I he…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:03 PM
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Loooot of women are now averse to being approached irl in a general sense. Situationally there are times/places that raise odds, but generally speaking, if you see someone you’re interested in at the coffee shop or the grocery store, they do not want you approaching them. Like at all. I can’t speak on if that’s different than 20 years ago but that’s the landscape now
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:43 PM
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I always wondered, in adoptions that cost money do you know where the money goes? Is it the facility that was housing the kids in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:52 PM
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Can you give names of these sites? Never heard dog ones that had such a high sticker price
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:28 PM
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Swiping right on everything actually gives you less desired people in your feed, due to algorithms
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:25 PM
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I agree there is never a right to have sex with someone, and at no point alluded to the contrary. I also agree that using sex as bait or any type of bargaining chip is manipulative by nature and is wrong, no matter who does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:21 PM
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She admitted that she didn’t really want it from the get go, I did the whole “we are cool, if you wanted something you could have just asked me openly” thing. I wouldnt call it abuse, that kind of devalues that term to me. My story lines up more with the whole “using sex as bait” deal and how that is manipulative. I agree that simply changing your mind isn’t proof that it was manipulation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:14 PM
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I understand the sentiment, just being a mod over there I just try and clear the air on misinformation relating to the sub because there’s a lot of it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:20 PM
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I believe it’s rare in the sense that it doesn’t happen in most interactions, but I do think it’s common enough for the average single man to have experienced it before. Tbh it was pretty baffling when it happened to me. Was hanging with a girl I met online and we were getting to know each other well. She was hungry and literally said “I’m kind of horny but I want to eat, I will be in the mood if you get me some food”. After eating, she got in bed and turned over saying that she actually just wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:33 PM
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No, you’re wrong about bpt. People who aren’t black can comment and post. Always have been able to, always will be able to. Sometimes the sun goes in a lockdown (country club) mode where only verified users can post/comment, but you don’t have to be black to get verified. So again, wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:24 PM
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Op nor the person you responded to will reply because you’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:12 PM
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Can we get some insight on if there is a greater point behind this decision or if it’s just an either or question with nothing deeper? I would choose dateless
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:00 PM
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Having full facial hair in America is not possible for most people
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:56 PM
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Oh I interpreted that guy as saying a higher portion of women don’t consider handsomeness as loosely as you or I may
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:05 PM
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The percentage he listed was referring to physical traits (how someone looks), not what the person does
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:37 PM
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You could have just made that decision when you became sexually active or an adult. Smaller labia is seen as more attractive to some, yet the practice of trimming them is largely looked down upon unless the woman herself decides to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:03 PM
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Will they respond? Find out next time on CAPTAIN QUESTION ASKER queue theme music
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:55 PM
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It’s just a tactic to try and deny without insulting the guys ego. Some guys not believing it doesn’t change the fact that it truly is meant to cause the least damage on both sides. Imo it hits better than a flat out “no” or “I’m not interested”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:51 PM
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Now why would she go and do that? Wonder if she realizes that being rejected by someone via “I have a gf” is probably the best form of letdown and smallest hit to the ego typically. I don’t think she is arguing in bad faith but it’s a perspective that she may not be thinking of.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:48 PM
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This is the issue I have with it. You can be upset and not like the situation, and there can be a lot of people who don’t like it, but to act as if that would cause some sort of civil unrest or societal collapse is either delusional or disingenuous on the part of men who say this. Too few people are “completely unfuckable” for it to be a societal issue
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:27 PM
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That’s what I meant by what’s wrong with the educational system
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:37 PM
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Bullies are seen as some of the funniest people in school, so its a mix of correlation with humor and being dominant. Not just the dominance. The type of bully who just beats people up in the bathroom aren’t seen as highly as the bully who jokes on ppl in the cafeteria (of course there is some overlap).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:19 PM
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I’d still give it a B and pass it along, but I’m part of what’s wrong with the education system
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:17 PM
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If you think this is going to garner a well thought out response from OP, keep dreaming
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:14 PM
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How would the vast majority of people know? The average person doesn’t go to strip clubs or hire sex workers. We don’t see what happens behind the scenes of porn shoots.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:12 PM
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Makes sense, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:27 PM
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Is there some natural draw for these types of people to get validation from internet dudes rather than internet women? Off the top of my head, I assume more dudes are on here so maybe it’s a pandering to the louder voice thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:05 PM
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Reads rude and immature to me, I just don’t innately connect the dots from that to seeking validation from men. I definitely know it’s a possibility, but I don’t see the breadcrumbs. This is an anonymous Internet forum. If she was saying this irl to dudes then I see that. But then you get your real losers who crave internet praise/points, so again it’s a possibility. You just seemed to jump right to it though. But hey that doesn’t mean you’re wrong. Makes me glad I wasn’t born raised though lol,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:59 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:52 PM
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I don’t agree with her. I’m more a sex positive person as long as everyone is safe. I’m legit asking you if you think there’s a chance she could just have this opinion? On the internet it’s hard to tell a fringe opinion vs a self hating one vs a pick me one. How do you determine?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:49 PM
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Is it possible that she just actually holds this opinion regardless of what men think?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:46 PM
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You didn’t do the needful
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:06 PM
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You really think that’s a large factor over being out of shape, dressing poorly, and lacking confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:29 AM
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Idk if you know, but most white girls are not going to swipe right on even above average black guys nearly as often as relatively hot white guys. Most people are going to choose their race, this whole “piss dad off” shit is a very small piece of the puzzle. Ask black guys who are attractive, they will tell you most white girls still don’t want black guys if there are good white guys right there for the picking. Or at least that’s my experience as well as all of my equally or more attractive blac…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:03 AM
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I agree with this as well
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:16 AM
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Inherently dangerous doesn’t mean your life will be fucked. It just comes with pitfalls that must be navigated. Seems like you’ve navigated them well! Also many people are deluded as to how fast they can find and start a job, and how long it will take to actually start earning again. Your case is more exception than rule
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:50 PM
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That man is made of straw!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:40 PM
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Yeah the whole intelligence thing is something that’s learned about someone after you’ve gotten to know them. By that time you’re either already in there, or too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:37 PM
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Being a SAHM is inherently dangerous because you’re giving up all your earning power. Anyone who argues against this is a fool
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:15 AM
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There are different apps/sites. Tinder is literally for hookups, that was its purpose of invention
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:51 PM
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That’s value in a societal sense. High value men in the sense this sub talks about is more micro, focusing on what makes someone high value in the SMP. Based on what you’ve said there is probably some overlap but distinction should be made
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 09:49 PM
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I wonder at what point working towards higher attractiveness goes from just wanting to look better to insecurity. Is it an intent thing or a mindset thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:41 PM
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There are women and men who are stunning the moment they’re up and splash water on themselves. Not saying it’s most people, but we can’t act like everyone who is hot is really just an average person in disguise. It’s unhealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:28 PM
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I feel like it’s societal more than natural. I don’t want to believe that women are generally slaves to biology more than men are
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:26 PM
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I usually hear holding frame being described as staying true to your own mindset/ideologies/disposition and not just putting the foot you want seen forward, but embodying that person you want to be. What definition are you using? (not asking in a disparaging way, just haven’t heard an opinion like yours on this before)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:25 PM
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I mentioned the blood thing lol why would you resay it in this way? And I wholeheartedly agree that the love/physical aspect of cleopatra isn’t the sole factor behind anything that happened, it was multifaceted because of her inherent potential as a royal fallen from grace and then a royal with money and resources. I just don’t want there to be an insinuation that the romance was no factor at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:16 PM
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Very relevant point thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:12 PM
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I agree because it wouldn’t be a compliment otherwise. The instances where its said on the back end of a rejection is an instance where I would see it as different, but I can only give anecdotal experience as far as what’s more common
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:09 PM
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What do you believe is the most widely used definition in the context you are discussing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:48 PM
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Every time someone gives a correct answer, no women engage
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:45 PM
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Was he saying it’s less value?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:40 PM
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It’s their fault because they’re using a hookup app. If they used other apps or other methods, they would have a point. Like you said, tinder was meant to be the het version of Grindr. Both are literally hookup apps
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:37 PM
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The issue is people using a hookup app to find a relationship. Y’all (who do this) are making the experience worse for the rest of us. Go to one of the many other apps designed for relationships and your problems will get better. This whole square peg in a round hole thing has become just jamming it in. Yeah it hurts and there are setbacks, but I got the peg in the hole (found a relationship on tinder). Use hinge or some other shit
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:35 PM
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Caesar. Then mark Anthony helped her conquer more lands. It should be noted that she first had power because of her bloodline too but it got nulled when her younger brother had her flee (pre-Caesar)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:04 PM
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I know I was agreeing with you, just saying what a rational person would think about simping then saying that treating people as they would a non romantic interest is best. Didn’t intend to come off as whatever I apparently conveyed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:09 AM
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Treating/“doing more for” someone better than they are to you is the simp part. Just being as nice as you would to someone you’re not interested in is best
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:17 AM
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Not meaning to say there aren’t, it’s a total non issue if the partner doesn’t care for it or doesn’t have a problem with doing most of the physical aspect
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 12:57 AM
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I said cannot/will not. And a lot of lazy ones or ones that are in shape by virtue of eating well but not exercising. It’s a common trope, look it up if you don’t believe me, I’m not the only one
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 12:00 AM
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Are you grinding/thighs rubbing against his thighs, or literally bouncing up and down? And hey you may very well be right and all the guys who experience this regularly deal with selfish/lazy lovers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 11:58 PM
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True, she just isn’t stripped of the things you mentioned because she was in the peculiar position to have much power and wealth. Not normally common for women of the time I must stress, and I’m sure she was aware of at least social pressures to some extent. Guess I’m saying cleopatra isn’t as good a fit as many of the other people in history
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 11:50 PM
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The cleopatra example does not line up with what you’re saying. That being said, you’re correct with much of history (and the present in many places). I at no point mean to deny it insinuate denial of this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 11:47 PM
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Cold hard truth is that the work involved in sex is mostly on the guy. We tend to be stronger and have more stamina to thrust, that’s just how it is. Most women cannot/will not get up on your dick and ride it for even 5 minutes. That’s a thigh burning exercise for most of them. As far as foreplay, results may vary imo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 11:38 PM
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A lot of men (as are most people) are very stupid, especially when it comes to interpersonal dealings of the opposite sex. I don’t think we disagree on this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 11:31 PM
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That wasn’t me, that was another guy. I was giving one historical account. There are others definitely but I don’t feel as strongly as the other guy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 11:20 PM
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I wasn’t being disparaging, just saw the ironic perspective of the comment. I was making a joke about how 2 people that can’t procreate without intervention being called winners of a “genetic lottery”. Tbh tho I wouldn’t even say they’re now afforded that ability due to modern medicine because even before modern medicine they could just get a man to provide sperm. It’s good that they don’t have to physically interact with the guy because of modern medicine though, seems awkward when you think ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:30 PM
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If that’s how it is for you, why would you care what it’s like for the other person? Raises odds they’d cheat/value the intimacy you provide less?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:24 PM
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Does not compute
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:18 PM
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He couldn’t just like the way they make his penis feel while also valuing variety?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:59 PM
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I thought you were speaking from the standpoint of a marriage or an already established relationship. That’s not typically the “dating” that’s talked about in this sub (getting to know people, asking out, the beginning stages)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:57 PM
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See something you like but only in passing or he doesn’t notice you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:53 PM
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Cleopatra is a big instance
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:37 PM
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That’s not dating advice
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:31 PM
2

Would make more sense if you mentioned your weight/height/facial features (glasses,beard, jaw)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 11:28 PM
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There are a ton of videos showing that even hot dudes don’t walk up to women and ask for sex then actually succeed. This stuff is almost always under the pretense of a date to get to know each other unless it is at a party or club (cold approaches become lukewarm at least in situations like these). And legit, go by 10 women who are not going anywhere or busy. Give them a compliment on something they worked on/paid for (hair/nails/clothes), gauge their response. If they smile or are warm at all, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 07:50 PM
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This is the secret. People won’t ever realize it but if you’re average, you are gonna most likely get a couple yes’s if you ask 10 average single women out. Yes you have to ask more than women. No one questions this. But it’s so possible for average guys to get average girls. They literally have to try instead of being petrified
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 07:36 PM
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Well there you go, it’s easier for women to have their cake and eat it too. We just gotta accept it, or us as high value men would have to stop going for casual sex with these women we don’t want to be serious with. One is more a long shot than the other
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:57 PM
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Again I truly believe that womens (and mens) desires can be altered based on outside stimuli (or lack thereof). If I’m right, the ship would right itself. If not, then you’re absolutely correct
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:56 PM
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The men themselves would have to be involved. A woman isn’t gonna sit there and pine over a 10 if he already matched up with someone and isn’t entertaining outside attention. As long as someone is benefitting from both sides, it’s hard to get either of them to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:24 PM
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I resonate with a lot of what you said, I think that the monogamy part would prevent “higher value” guys from being with multiple women, leaving them desiring “lesser” men. A lot of people act like desire can’t change, but I don’t agree. Without a lot of the higher tier options, women (and men) would desire what’s more available. Yes it would be the upper bound of what’s left available, but that would translate to better success for all compared to how it normally is. Essentially I think it take…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:10 PM
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That’s fair and I wish people felt exactly as you did. It would solve a looooot
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:01 PM
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What do you actually think?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:58 PM
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A lot of people don’t believe you can love more than one person, or that you can love someone while being with someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:54 PM
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Sometimes people find someone they enjoy being around, then that person just happens to be a man. I feel like it’s the best possible way for relationships but doesn’t happen often
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:45 PM
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To be fair, a woman could try this until like 25 then switch over to more realistic goals while still young enough to attract most men. Only a fool would do it into 30s+, the reality is that women have a great chance in life to have their cake and eat it too. Far better than men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:43 PM
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Yeah porn is bad for many reasons, not inherently but the way it is made and shown is usually horrible. And the Mormon high school thing is funny, but a lot of people in the world are still religious, and a lot of religions still pride themselves on sexually limiting people (women especially). The “poophole loophole” was something I’ve heard of and experienced multiple times in a public predominantly black high school in southeastern US lol. But yeah mostly young people are that foolish so I wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:42 PM
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I only have anecdotal experiences to give you (like most of us just being honest), but most anyone I’ve talked to/known on the level of discussing past sexual escapades, the interest in anal specifically was either due to porn or hearing that it felt good. There’s also the rare occurrence of the “my girl wanted to save PiV sex but offered me anal instead”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:51 PM
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For most people? You mean most men wanting these acts are sadists?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:43 PM
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No, makes me feel lucky to be a dude who is different lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:11 PM
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Damn I would have thought it was more a “I heard it felt good” type deal
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:10 AM
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I used to do way better than most but my frame and lack of beard really prevented me from just getting a flood of women. I’m just never the type to be upset that someone else is lucky, they’re usually awesome friends
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:09 PM
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That’s sad
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:49 PM
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Sadly this is my anecdotal experience as well
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:44 PM
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I saw your post and understand
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:44 PM
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I feel like what I said is a bigger chunk of instances than people think about. People who have past experiences have usually experimented. They know what they like. Why would they want to do something they don’t like sexually?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:42 PM
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Is that really how they’re thinking about it? Or do they just (wrongly) think that it’s something about them that makes them unwilling to do it? I think it’s the latter, people are narcissistic by nature. It’s just obviously more okay for someone to care about whether they’re in pain or not vs whether someone gets to fuck someone in the ass or not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:41 PM
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One of my good friends is like top 10% and I made him download tinder once he divorced his wife. Literally within 3 hours on a Wednesday night he had 70+ likes. Half of them I would absolutely get with. He picked 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:39 PM
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I wonder how many people actually try something, don’t like it, then that actually be the end of it. My dick isn’t gonna stay hard if she’s not enjoying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:34 PM
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Is there a difference between useless and “I don’t need them”?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 05:18 AM
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I don’t know if either of us believe that most women knew or even cared about such a dumb struggle as hurricane naming. And I’m a dude who never heard the phrase used irl, can you tell me in more detail what about not needing men in a jab? I know what makes it not factual, but what is the jab?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 04:02 AM
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How is the notion that some women don’t feel as if they benefit from a (male) romantic partner a jab by any stretch? Or are you saying that the phrase is too clunky and easily interpreted as a jab, therefore it should at least be qualified if it’s going to be said at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:40 AM
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Pretty rational I’d say
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:25 AM
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People who stay with one of their first boyfriends is the least weird of all the options there are
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:16 AM
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Women aren’t referring to the people who uphold infrastructure or otherwise do their jobs. This is a relationship thing. Why try and extrapolate that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 02:54 AM
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The crime rate dipping during Mother’s Day shows that families are a lot more matriarch centered when it comes to familial bonds. It’s nice. And the average woman has as much power as the average man, little to none beyond their own body.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 02:50 AM
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People don’t only do things out of perceived need. Sometimes it’s as simple as “oh look, I want that. Let me go see if I can get it real fast”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:45 PM
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What? Yes, you can be careful and still get caught by a good liar or someone who just changed for the worse. You really thought that wasn’t possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:19 PM
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It really changes the nature of the post, I would suggest changing your body text (replacing every instance of “no options” with what you really mean). Understandable if you actually just don’t want to
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:52 PM
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It doesn’t make sense to me either but you can go to your mall and see some weird looking pairs. But people hype up the whole no options thing 99% of the time. If you can get one mate you can get others, people are just so scared to test it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:48 PM
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The trope is that women are worse texters
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:10 PM
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I believe it’s possible to give advantages without disadvantaging. Poor white southerners and midwestern whites have been disadvantaged and need help too in the eyes of people I tend to align with
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:52 PM
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Keep on burnin, only way for most of us to escape the damn rat race. Have a good one!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:28 PM
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Engaged with a date that was altered due to Covid/deaths. Yes it’s not a smart plan for someone without a solid intertwined future. Yes we are also FIRE. And you’re right, I have no doubts she can get someone with more money that won’t want her to pay half. She doesn’t want that trade off because that means being without me. Being with the person she has fallen in love with actually has weight in this regard, as it tends to in most people. Yes, a lot of men do not actually meet their partner hal…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:18 PM
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What she wants is for us to be able to retire and live comfortably as soon as possible. If one of us was a millionaire, it wouldn’t require the broker of us to pay half bills to achieve that. Paying half is a means to an end, that’s what she wants. And she wants it with me (and can’t find a millionaire like most humans lol). Once my partner starts bearing my child, the shift in work would exist. Right now it doesn’t, so that’s a moot point. I do not and would never expect my partner to do most o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 03:53 PM
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What one woman won’t do, the next will. I’m not seeing a difference. And of course she wouldn’t be paying half if she was with a millionaire, who would lol? Most women won’t get with millionaires. In most relationships no one is rich lol, so the fastest way to retire and have more time together would be both parties working and paying what they can. Some couples value time together and have goals to retire together. The fastest way to do that in most relationships is both people working. You’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 03:23 PM
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I don’t see how she’s a pick me when both of us get exactly what we want out of the situation. Would someone you consider perfect husband material not be a prize as well? That’s the part that confuses me, why put one person on a pedestal when there’s room for two?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 02:37 PM
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There are women who don’t subscribe to traditionalist norms and I found one a few years ago. Not common, but a solution that works for me. Legit trying to pick your brain a little and keep it respectful because I care about and want to know what you think, is there something other than tradition/natural instinct that makes women in general “the prize”?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 02:13 PM
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Nope because the past has set up many for failure to the extent that it makes more sense to help them on the ground level. The concept of equality of opportunity** is lost on most conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 02:06 PM
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Edited my previous common to clarify that I meant clean shaven has never been in within the black community.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:56 PM
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There’s less of them in the age range most represented here (under 30).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:55 PM
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Eh, it’s (clean shaven) never been in as far as my community (black) is concerned. Probably never will be. That doesn’t mean that people who are clean shaven can’t be seen as attractive, but facial hair is and always has been seen as a masculine (and thus positive) trait
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:51 PM
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If religion isn’t a factor, most smart people see why conservativism isn’t best for the country as a whole. The subset of people you’re looking for are selfish people. People who personally benefit from conservative policy. Because everyone with a brain knows that conservative beliefs aren’t best for most people in the country
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:50 PM
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Yeah I was just talking about the beard thing, agreed on your other point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:48 PM
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Even there it’s understood that not everyone can grow facial hair. People who can’t may want to try things that could help tho
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:46 PM
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Not everyone can grow facial hair
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:45 PM
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This is that prize mentality. If he’s courting you, you’re not doing much more than vetting him. What do you provide from the get go? Women are not and have never been inferior. They are capable of giving effort and value from day one. What reason outside of selfishness wouldn’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:33 PM
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Ah I understand, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:57 PM
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There’s nothing saying that they aren’t one in the same when a ton of relationships (both healthy and non) start out on OLD. I’m just saying it’s part of the picture. I don’t think you’re meaning to deny this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:08 PM
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Ones that start out in OLD (usually under casual pretense)? Not sure tbh, seems dependent on the people involved rather than how they actually met
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 06:01 PM
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That’s where a good portion of relationships start nowadays, it should be factored into the discussion because of this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:10 AM
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It’s not necessarily about saving yourself for marriage. A big example is a high school sweetheart. If you are the first person who had sex with a girl and then you stayed with her, she never saved herself but she was still a virgin before you. Imo high school sweethearts are the highest occurrences of this outside of religious people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 06:58 AM
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The uh…scenario isn’t about you specifically. When I said “your sniff test” I meant it in the sense that it was the sniff test you suggested applied by some general person for conversations sake, not that it would be you in the scenario. You’re very recognizable by your avi and it’s well known here that you have a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:43 PM
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At that point it would just be another case of someone pretending to be something they’re not for the prospect of sex/a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:37 PM
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Agreed, not much difference there. Some people say the perception of women doing it is less damning than for men but that’s pretty subjective either way you cut it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:19 PM
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Wouldn’t some women have the same reasoning for not fucking around as the men in your example (caring what others think/being ashamed of their preferences)?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:44 PM
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A tale as old as time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:58 PM
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Verbal or written answer. Let’s be real, you understand the nuance of the English language. You didn’t give a direct answer. You’re under no duress to do so, it’s just clear that’s what the person you were talking to wanted. It’s also clear that she didn’t really want to talk, otherwise she would have argued her point anyways. I get both sides of it, I’m sure you do too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:39 PM
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That’s more a response than an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:04 PM
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Why would you opt to travel for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:01 PM
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Wouldn’t…someone just have to know how to keep it cool and play the long game to pass your sniff test there?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:56 PM
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An increasing number of women are okay with being single for a while until the “right” guy comes along. I’m listening to one at my job right now saying she can’t date someone under 6ft because she is 5’5” and wants the opportunity to wear 6 inch heels while still looking shorter than her man. Also requires a beard lol. So once she figures out that she can’t readily find >20% of the population, she will continue to wait until she gets lucky. Or so she says
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:46 PM
2

Most adult men don’t get hard when they see someone attractive walking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:39 PM
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I think you either skipped over or misinterpreted my comment, especially the last sentence. No one is owed transparency, and I wouldn’t even go as far to say that you get what you give as far as it. Remember, just cuz it’s Reddit doesn’t mean that people are emotionally invested in the subject matter. I have nothing to get over, and you probably don’t either
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:11 PM
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It’s a meaningless answer to “what are you looking for” for the reasons you’ve stated. (Nearly) Everyone wants someone nice, and (nearly) everyone is nice on a surface level and to friends/potential love interests. People want transparency in their desires, not politically correct answers. But sometimes it’s not about what people wants and just what makes the person answering comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:41 PM
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Male selection pressures don’t make sense because even an average woman would be passing on her genes with no problem. Remember, evolution only takes place due to some type of drift, catastrophic event, random mutation, or trait that hinders genes passing on dies out. Average woman have always been able to pass their genes on, therefore no impact of male selection pressures
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 09:21 PM
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Definitely. It’s something about their socialization or inherent nature that makes them not go for those opportunities (in a general sense) as much as men would. If I could fuck a random attractive person every night when I was single, I would have. In my mind, I’m thinking “why not”? I think most single guys would for at least a while. I don’t think the same of most women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:23 PM
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Not always, some guys hate to feel like they have to make a big show of things to try and impress people. It’s annoying and makes you feel like you’re applying for a position rather than coming in 50/50 to something. Guys will try and impress you either if they feel it helps their odds, or if you’re impressing them back and they want to come just as hard as you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:21 PM
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I’m a guy who the latter has happened to. It took years, but I was too much of an unapologetic asshole and it drove her to the edge. It definitely happens
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:18 PM
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Not just men, but women too. Most women don’t have a lot of partners, at once or at all. Same goes for men. No widespread polygamy incoming
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:15 PM
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Haven’t had someone bring an argument nor data to me yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 11:52 PM
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Hope they’re ready to argue against common sense along with any data that’s ever been collected on it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 10:08 PM
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Yeah you can, it’s been said here many times that a white male* is by and large the most selected male mate in western society. No one argues against this at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:44 PM
2

Why did you date them then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:36 PM
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Seems to be more prevalent, let’s hope it continues
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:25 PM
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Not by default no, but it could be. And I believe it is. It’s okay to disagree. I should have said that it was my opinion rather than stating it objectively
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 10:01 PM
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Good thing I didn’t say that then. I said it’s becoming more common for people to desire it. A synonymous phrase for that would be ‘more prevalent’
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:58 PM
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It’s becoming more common for people to desire equal work both inside and outside the home. For women, it promotes more agency and less dependency. For men, it promotes being financially cushioned by a more equal financial partner. The biggest downside for most people is lack of parent presence during the child’s early years (before they’re spending their day in school anyways).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:54 PM
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“Look, I get out from time to time”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 08:11 PM
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Wdym when you say manipulated? Did these men do things that they deemed not worth what they were getting “in return”?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:12 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:44 PM
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I just want to hear some explicit examples lol I’m not currently in the game, I just don’t often catch people on here that have knowledge of this. If you don’t want to give explicit answers I full well understand
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:27 PM
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But why do women want providers and men don’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:03 PM
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So where do they go outside of the classic stuff I already mentioned?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:32 PM
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What are the various reasons modern day men don’t care as much about a partners income?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:53 PM
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50%? Or hire a nanny to do what the parents agree they don’t want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:51 PM
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There are enough for everyone tho lol why hide the sauce?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:48 PM
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Men and women having typical differences are the basis of RP and FDS, two things that either side hates and tries to disprove on here constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:45 PM
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So when a girl is looking for/open to something with a guy, where does she typically go? Or is it one of those “women tend to go for people already in their social circle/degree of separation” type thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:43 PM
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What’s in it for the women? Same thing as the men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:36 PM
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Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:13 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:17 PM
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Oh no I’m saying during the time period you’re getting to know someone, the fear (that someone more forward will come and “steal” the opportunity to truly ask the potential SO out) creeps in. I think that fear is what makes it hard to wait for a month or two before pulling the trigger
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:12 PM
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That’s the fear that makes someone want to start something more than friends during this time period. In your opinion, should they just try it if they’re getting antsy, or stay the course?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:08 PM
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Have you ever been in this state with a dude then the guy starts a relationship with someone else? This is the fear for guys and why some of them try and move fast as far as their intentions being known. Is there a combatant to this, or just a “it is what it is” situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:00 PM
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If the first guy doesn’t DM you on insta, would you DM him?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:56 PM
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That’s a pretty big difference lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:53 PM
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No one was arguing or insinuating that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:46 PM
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Sounds just like Superman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 04:25 PM
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Who the hell doesn’t want to retire earlier? Traditionalist values is accepting the reality of working your partner for more years than they really have to
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:02 PM
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What’s seemingly feminine about Gal?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:53 PM
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This is kind of stated in a disingenuous manner, neither the husband nor the child is ideally treated as leftovers
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:15 PM
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Way less unpleasant than a full term pregnancy then birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:12 PM
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That’s receptiveness out of necessity, a strategy for people who (feel like they) can’t make it the genuine way. A whole lot of RP guys can and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 08:45 PM
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You shouldn’t, the same way you shouldn’t trust anyone. That is, until that trust is gained/earned. The average woman is untrustworthy. So is the average man. Those of us who are to be trusted are exceptions, and thus don’t get mentioned in generalities like RP or FDS
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 07:49 PM
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It can exist within the red pill mantra. Applying dread isn’t a tactic that has to be present for someone to be redpill. You can be redpill without using said tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:04 PM
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USA east coast. You really think the average white woman prefers a black dude? Like really? That’s absurd man
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 03:04 PM
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Among most women in my country (white women), that’s not ideal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 02:51 AM
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The weird thing about “positive” stereotypes is that the people hurt by them are ones who don’t fit the bill. Easiest example for most to get is an Asian that isn’t smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 10:51 PM
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That’s a sentiment shared more with women than men partially due to perceived safety, but also because of more options among people you know (in a general sense). A lot of guys wouldn’t look online too if they felt like people they already knew were legitimate options. But again, not a woe is me statement (I’m taken as well), just observation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 10:30 PM
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Yep, just being realistic about SMV imo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 10:27 PM
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0 white women on the app, I believe it’s due to them having multiple options at once (like most women) and choosing what aligns most with their top preference (white man) rather than something that’s still in range but not as high. Because why wouldn’t they? Also I’m a couple inches under 6ft (it’s true what they say about that not mattering if you are conventionally attractive in all other ways) so I’m not usually fetishized by white people (because part of the fetishization is perceived hyperm…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 10:25 PM
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Yeah the whole age of simping usually happens online, where your only shot to talk to these people at first aren’t face to face. I try and tell people who don’t have online success that the face to face way works better, but then they pull the social anxiety card. Some people arent willing to do what works for them it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 10:16 PM
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Funny enough, that sentiment is usually shared among my friends who are women who agree with your 20% rule
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 10:15 PM
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Redneck isn’t generally seen as derogatory of a sentiment as referencing a black person by a stereotypically black name. Race dynamics are a big thing in the states, so I’m not just assuming you’re being obtuse or anything, but it really isn’t the same. Also, redneck is generally describe a specific subset of white person, whereas Tyrone is usually used a sweeping generalization for blacks in general. The word you (seemed to) use to specify which type of “Tyrone” (black person) was the word ghet…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 10:12 PM
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I think the study that was based off only was in reference to looks, although your feelings are like a lot of people I know so I definitely understand
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 10:02 PM
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Wait so why the whole 80/20 rule stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:54 PM
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I wouldn’t even consider what we talked about a matter of settling, just men have a wider range of what they truly consider acceptable. Now the question ‘why’ is what makes this sub tick imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:28 PM
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Be respectful first off. And I didn’t compare myself to anyone, this is about MY SMV. I don’t live in a bubble and don’t act like it. Being black is worth less to my dating pool, not me. Do you see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:25 PM
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The only difference is that it’s a smaller proportion of women “left” (after we factor out the ones that don’t apply) for the “average man” than there is for the “average woman”. Not a woe is me statement, just my viewpoint
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:23 PM
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I don’t have self hate, my scale is a reflection of my SMV. My SMV isn’t determined by me, but by women en masse in my area. Most women in my area are white. Most human beings (of any race) prefer their own race sexually. That’s just a fact proven by every study ever done on it. I harbor no resentment towards this, and would love to be shown evidence contrary to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:21 PM
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People are nicer to me and respect me more than when I was less attractive, there’s a clear difference. It’s a positive feedback loop so it helps my confidence. I have a SO, but had casual relationships while single and didn’t have much difficulty getting them via OLD (I was single during the pandemic mainly). White women en masse prefer white men and with their abundance of online options, the black man does not get chose often (in my experience, not at all). And nah I’ll keep the 2 points off …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:18 PM
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I have a nice jaw and aesthetically appealing face. I am in good shape and strong. I have a job and a place to stay. Only thing that is a widespread knock to most people is that I’m black, so I take off 2 points
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:09 PM
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No, because ghetto has meaning beyond race to me. Its commonly used in a racist sense but I wasn’t going to take those liberties because I’ve heard it used in many non racial ways. The Tyrone thing seems to always point to a black guy. I’m just asking because it upsets me and probably others, please don’t use racial terms like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:07 PM
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8, is there a follow up to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:02 PM
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Why bring up the racism? Can’t just say ghetto person?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 08:56 PM
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Seems like a generalization, I don’t think anyone would argue that this isn’t the majority of women, all except for the led category imo. I think women have started to en masse want to be equals within a relationship instead of being treated like a child. I hope
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 08:55 PM
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Being decent is enough to get a relationship for an average woman. It’s all about the ‘who’ the relationship would be with. Some guys aren’t interested in relationships, so no none of them. Some guys are only interested in relationships with their highest valued women, so no not them. That still leaves a sizable portion of men in my opinion who would be happy with an LTR with an average woman. Do you disagree with a part of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 08:39 PM
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What people may not understand from your comment is how do you actually get the attention of your potential SO in the first place. A lot of these dudes default to simping. What is your strategy? (I’m one of the guys who had success in OLD so my anecdotal experience does not help)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 08:34 PM
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Not mutually exclusive, but huge overlap yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:29 AM
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Add that to the list of cultures that works for lol I’m not saying your list is small or even a minority
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 09:40 PM
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The thing about a good gold digger is that she won’t disturb the earth too much. Some of these dudes don’t realize their girl doesn’t care about them until it comes crashing down, and it isn’t always because they’re rubes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 09:36 PM
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That strategy absolutely does not work in many cultures, just saying for others who read this and may think it applies to them too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 09:34 PM
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Was just doing some purposefully too ‘on the nose’ shtick
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 09:29 PM
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mostly coming from the right if you know what I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 09:27 PM
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Yeah, most women are not attracted to younger guys lol, it’s one of the things that having a beard feeds into. Showing maturity; age, facial hair and financial security (not talking about giving women money but being a dude not struggling whatsoever with his own place) is what most women have on their list (among other things)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 09:25 PM
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Immigrants you say? Population crisis averted! Nah but I hate outsourcing and using cheap scab type labor so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:51 PM
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Awful generalizations of both sexes are “generally” valid. People in general are awful and basic (typical). You disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:28 PM
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What if he’s completely open, letting you have access to his phone/location/whatever you needed to be reassured?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:26 PM
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Couldn’t a change just be made from capitalism to more of a hybrid system (than it already is)?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:19 PM
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Good thing abortion exists in a lot of places and will most likely spread. Also, the lack of elderly care could be a great boon for the job market in future generations. Those jobs that used to not pay well will come in higher demand
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:18 PM
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They’re overlapping I agree but not the same, a lot of people use them interchangeably
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 01:07 AM
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You gotta remember most people here are American. An even greater percentage are in a western country. Less different than you think
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:48 PM
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He can’t just be self aware of how little impact he (like most of us) make?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:46 PM
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Idk man I’m vaxxed and wear my mask, what disease?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:44 PM
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For those of us who marry young, this doesn’t bode well lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:42 PM
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Wait, so what if there is a guy that’s that many times better than the current guy? Are you saying hypergamy is real and unlikely, or just not real in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:32 PM
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The issue is that mating gets conflated with dating. Mating is sex. Dating is everything beyond that. When it comes to the dating scene, everyone is largely after the same goals. The mating scene is where the strategies and bullshit start coming out
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 05:30 PM
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It’s not always the weight, a lot of people give pause as to the reason why someone is heavy. Could be some deeper issues there. In your case, why are you heavy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:31 PM
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What’s messed up about this premise is the concept of earning, which is only a thing because certain people were evil enough to horde such rights. In modern day we typically admit that all of these rights should never have had to be “earned” in the first place. That’s why we consider them inalienable in free western countries
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 03:28 AM
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So you think n count defines in a way, or you’re saying you want to actually hear about the experiences with each of these exes?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:50 PM
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Oh so like a nature thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:02 PM
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Well women would have to feel the same way about it as men. And men would have to feel the same way about other men “being sluts”. But they don’t. What do you think is the reason for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:57 PM
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I’ll say, and a conscious thinker
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:30 PM
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Wouldn’t it be womens job to hold men accountable? And if they don’t it’s because they don’t care enough to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:26 PM
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Good thing that good sex can often be coached if both partners are willing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:16 PM
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Results may vary, but appreciate the story
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:16 PM
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Who asked who first?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:00 PM
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Thank you! Please mention this every time someone acts like guys irl care. We don’t, and would rather remain willfully ignorant because it’s not really business of ours. We aren’t cars that need fuckin carfax when it comes to sex. Diseases/surgeries/health conditions matter ofc but not sex in itself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:00 PM
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Interesting, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:43 PM
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Yeah like if someone truly wanted to get to know you but just met you randomly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:43 PM
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Those are legal things that matter very much. I meant the emotional aspect of the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:57 PM
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That sounds like an awesome place to live tbh. Idk about the job market out there though. But that’s not the point, I definitely understand your perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:42 PM
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I’ll tell you about my last experience with it. I was romantically involved with a girl who was ex navy. During that time in the navy, she experienced some alcoholism and some abuse. One day while I was hanging out with her, we were drinking and she had a moment where she started associating me with some of her past experiences. At that point she told me that she still wanted me to be her friend and “maybe one day” she would be able to see me as more than that, but she couldn’t really be more th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:40 PM
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I wonder if it’ll get to the point where they’re just seen as fashion accessories/expressions, lol tbh I thought we were already there but then again I’m black and black culture is really accepting of both tats and piercings even in teenagers (boys and girls)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:33 PM
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Would you ever field someone trying to be your friend that you met randomly via a social event?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:30 PM
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Do women who say the friend zone is real just lie, or is it a person to person thing in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:25 PM
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Do you think more women feel like you or the guy you’re disagreeing with?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:21 PM
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Why is marriage seen as this finish line? A relationship doesn’t change once people are married does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:18 PM
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Maybe go to the bars dude, not just the street
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:15 PM
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Most people posting anywhere on this site is from America. Assume that big dog
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:00 PM
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You know what you do see? People having sex because they want the feeling of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:28 PM
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Do they not receive the same thing they get? Both people are having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:13 PM
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Does it matter what the woman saw the man on tinder as?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:08 PM
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I was comparing lower n count to higher n count, not necessarily 0 n count. I agree that there’s probably a cultural difference in what me and women view as too high
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:07 PM
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I would say that’s a difference conversation as far as preference vs “I don’t want a slut” behavior. The latter is more of a dealbreaker vs the former being what’s more ideal to someone. I would venture to say that most people of both sexes would prefer someone with a lower n count rather than a higher one
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:54 PM
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I wish there was a way to determine if that was typical or not, but all you’re saying is very far from the norm in my experiences/what I’ve heard. However, I’ve heard things just like what you’re saying. I really appreciate the conversation!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:31 PM
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Do they ever say just how promiscuous someone is to be considered a slut? And would you say that most adult men are like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:13 PM
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From what I see, what you call slut tells are more about personality/values, but I may be thinking of something else. Can you give examples of some slut tells? And I understand you may not have been speaking from your experience, but I still want to know for the sake of conversation, so please tell me about what your experiences are like (or lmk you don’t feel like it/not comfortable with that). Also, remember that what you hear online is likely from a vocal minority of people who spend almost n…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:57 PM
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Is that what happens in your experience? That sucks, Ive experienced the whole “tell me about your last relationship/ex, but since becoming an adult there hasn’t really been much asking about a sexual history or past. What’s your experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:45 PM
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A lot of guys aren’t gonna take offense on someone else’s behalf (or at least I hope not). And gladly as the days go on more and more people realize a slut is just someone who wants to have casual sex and is able to actually get it. The same dudes complaining are the same losers doing it out of envy. The guys who are either cool with it or don’t see them as viable options have little words for it, as it should be. Let’s hope we keep moving in that direction
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:16 PM
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Ohhhh yeah I’ve seen that as well but that’s a comment for a different day
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:55 PM
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So from that point it seems like whether or not sex is abstained at the beginning usually has little bearing on how things will go, if a man is classifying before knowing you. It being a filter tactic to avoid men who are only there for the sex makes sense until you start losing men who won’t stay without sex but also wanted something more. But that’s the risk that some are willing to take, and again it’s understandable. It just didn’t seem like that was the way it was being explained. I think w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:51 PM
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I’m a dude and my friends are all dudes. You seem to have thought I was a woman or my friends were women somehow. I also agree that it would be better if women did more of the cold approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:46 PM
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In no way did I ever say that some guys don’t act the way you said. You aren’t responding to what I’m saying at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:30 PM
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That’s what I’m saying is happening. I don’t understand, are you saying that it’s a bad idea to do approaching as well as working on yourself? Ohhh I get it. I’m a dude. And my friends are dudes. I’m talking about me and my friends experiences as guys doing cold approaches as well as bettering ourselves during different parts of the day. I have no clue why you assumed I was talking about women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:27 PM
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The cold approaching usually happens at night at social events that you would (if you have the type of social life that lends itself to the places that cold approaches work best) be at anyways. Does not get in the way of the gym or career whatsoever if you don’t want it to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:19 PM
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Ohhh okay. Let’s continue the convo then
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:16 PM
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You’ll be surprised at how many women aren’t approached at all because people are scared or assume it won’t work. I’m attractive but go out with some of my average friends and so many women who are out alone are just looking for something to pass the time. That very well could be whoever fucks around and tries it, as long as they’re at least average. I agree it’s not a high percentage thing, but I also think it’s worth doing along with all the stuff you mentioned at the end of your post. Why not…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:13 PM
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Objectification is a little more nuanced than considering someone a literal object. Btw I’m not the guy you originally were talking to so that may be the source of some confusion
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:06 PM
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Pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:04 PM
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Yeah I never get a straight response at that point. Why can’t people be genuine on this sub, we’re all anonymous
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 01:57 PM
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When u say it like that yea lol, if it’s someone you know on a conversational level, a simple “how do I look?” Would suffice
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:54 PM
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Lol I may have misspoke, approaching as a random, It’s normal to go for a number. Idk why I thought you were saying that even that is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:49 PM
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If I’m not approaching you to get a date, what other option is there? Remember, I’m seeing you in passing and do not have guarantee I will ever seee you again
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:40 PM
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So for you in particular, the guy who just happens to see you in passing just might as well not approach? Def a common sentiment among women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:38 PM
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That’s understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:35 PM
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Wouldn’t someone have to actually know you first in order to ask you out for something other than physical attributes? Or are you saying you agree, but just don’t like ransoms asking you out?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:33 PM
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Why dont you want him to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:29 PM
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Sure it’s the same dudes tho? Lot of the simpers stay silent and simp away
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:24 PM
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More than one thing can’t be cared about and have meaning lmao?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:23 PM
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I think so too tbh, so many women have claimed abstinence because they can’t find something solid
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:05 PM
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With the general knowledge that most people would give pause with a ton of casual partners, you really think someone with a lot of casual partners would divulge that? Or say anything other than “I don’t have a problem with casual sex but it’s not normally my thing hehehe”?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:38 PM
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A lot of people just feel like a woman (or a man) wouldn’t tell the truth there if they felt like it would make them look less than ideal. Do you disagree with the notion that people casually lie to improve their image when it comes to touchy subjects like sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:08 PM
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See that’s what I mean, it’s outside of your perspective to see the potential that women are doing this misguidedly. It’s gotta be because men conditioned them for this. Can’t they just be wrong? Could it be due to at least men of yesterday, when progressive modern men don’t subscribe to this? Just seems like you’re unwilling to even see that as a possibility
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 06:12 PM
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Like what? Give examples of how this would happen specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:44 PM
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When you said women wouldn’t be doing __ if it didn’t work. Sometimes women (as well as men) do things en masse that are actually counterproductive (or at the very least doesn’t actually help the way people think it does). I believe waiting for sex in order to raise chances of love/commitment is one of those things
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:22 PM
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The whole being in control aspect
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:58 PM
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Your last statement reads as “there isn’t any way that most women could be doing something counterproductive”. If you don’t believe it’s possible to be wrong in this, then I don’t really have a leg to stand on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:47 PM
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I can only speak for myself, but I have only ever been asked about anything of the past in a sense of “tell me about/what happened with your last relationship?” or “why are you single?”. Never had it been about the past as a whole when it comes to encounters/relationships. Has that been anyones experience? If so please tell me how it went, just doesn’t sound real (or common at least)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:43 PM
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I thought you were saying that not waiting on sex lowers chances of a man going the way of love/adoration/commitment. Is this your belief? I don’t personally believe that, and wanted to know why you believe it (if you do).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:38 PM
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That premise is different than the premise of if you would fuck the potential suitor in question tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:32 PM
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If a man having sex with you would impede the potential of those things, wouldn’t that be an indicator that he wasn’t willing to do this with you regardless? Or do you think it’s kind of a “fuck zone” type of thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:26 PM
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Why would they let you know they were a virgin or failed at previous attempts ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:58 PM
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The main sexual requirement from men is “will you have it with me?” Lol, the average dude is going to think about his dick first and what happened with other dudes dicks second (or not at all)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:52 PM
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Oh like military/martial arts stuff. Understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:49 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:47 PM
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It’s not ideal that one partner has more of the control when it comes to child rearing, but it’s understandable for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:46 PM
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It’s not likely you’d ever find out if your partner could fight. Do you mean like if he seems like he could fight?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:43 PM
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I’m not saying it affects me in any way. This sub is designed to foster discussion based on respective opinions, you’re essentially asking “well what’s it to ya!?” As if the point isn’t discussion and dissection of each other’s opinions lol. This is what we are supposed to be here for. I feel like my way of thinking isn’t better or worse, just different. Better or worse would be subjective in my mind. I think my way of thinking when it comes to sex is less based in emotions and more based in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 05:14 AM
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I’m saying there’s a reason why you think the way you do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:20 AM
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Well glad we’re on the ground floor lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:13 PM
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My only disagreement is the whole “at the least part”. It’s by and clear worse to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:09 PM
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What? A pump and dump is clearly better. Both parties got mutual sex, then one wanted more while the other didn’t and thusly left. How is that not better than the legal ins and outs, paperwork, dividing of assets etc involved in a divorce? On top of that, there was clearly deeper connection or at least more time to be emotionally invested in a divorce scenario, raising the chances of emotional pain involved. Legitimately how is this an opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:06 PM
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Well imma do my part if I have a daughter lol cuz it’s insanely stupid to me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:48 PM
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Do you think it’s innate or is it some mother to daughter/media “don’t want em to think I’m easy” bullshit? It’s so crazy the influences that women go through. For guys, the main influence in life is typically to try and be as cool as humanly possible. Who doesnt like being cool? It’s just the crushing let down of not achieving that is where men have their issues. For women it just seems like there’s a bunch of talking heads spewing stuff that actually doesn’t even benefit anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:39 PM
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Is there anything that men can do to show women that these mind games do not have the result they are seeking? Men in general do not think lesser of someone if they want to have sex. Their immediate thought is “awesome, she’s sexually attracted to me and horny”. If there is something more than that feeling wise, it is generally not impeded by early sex. It’s as if women (that share this mindset) are taking early steps to condition their suitor to act a certain way (how do you say, “put in any ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:25 PM
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See how you phrased mutual consensual sex as giving yourself physically? That’s the mentality feminism is trying to dismantle. You aren’t giving them anything lol you’re having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:20 PM
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I’m a guy, but I know a girl who did this (cheating on her BF in the process)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:07 PM
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Really good point about big boobs, a lot of bigger breasts tend to sag more with no clothes compared to smaller ones, and experiencing that in person really causes me to start preferring smaller boobs. 13 year old me would have never believed that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:06 PM
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Where is this young age discouragement happening with women? Never seen it in school both as a child and adult in the child school system. Is it the home somehow? Are the mothers/fathers doing this for some reason? I just don’t get it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:13 PM
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The men who are complaining are the men who aren’t getting sex. The women complaining are, and this is where it falls apart at, doing what they want to do in the short term while being willfully ignorant of what they logically know will happen in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:11 PM
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With the advent of modern abortion tactics and condoms, this does not matter. I feel like modern science has caused women and men to not care as much more than anything you said in your post. A woman usually knows she can terminate a pregnancy if she really doesn’t want it. Or take birth control. Or morning after pill. Or get tubes tied. Guys know they can wear condoms, use spermicidal lube, and get a vasectomy. Through science we have cared less, because it truly matters less now
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:08 PM
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That’s just bullshit man, those old timey pussies still had nerve endings, and every dude back then who was good at sex (or was willing to listen to a woman’s suggestion on what to do), found that out very fast. Just not talk for the public arena.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:06 PM
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That’s almost no one. Only a body builder or a dude who doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing will spend more than 2 hours a day on working out give or take. Same goes for meals
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:02 PM
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Because why did you wait that long to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:00 PM
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That tends to be true from what I’ve experienced as well
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:56 PM
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I understand that premise, but there legit are some people who believe in a diety but don’t practice under an organized religion lol, or ones who don’t agree with everything so they believe and practice in their own way
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:53 PM
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Lol people can’t just believe in a Deity?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:51 PM
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I consider chads also as exceptions, but I agree with you. I think they tell their inner circle about chad but may go to social media about the star, different levels and all that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 11:26 PM
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To your first part, I believe both ugly and attractive women would brag if they got with a star. More attractive people have more social standing (bigger audience to brag to, more likely to see it) and have a higher chance of bagging a star in the first place. For the second part, I’m asking your opinion in plain terms so I can then respond in good faith. Do you believe that women brag about fucking chad or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:45 PM
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Lmao inheriting wealth is a thing, are they molded into sociopaths, or born?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:13 PM
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Love isn’t unconditional, if someone beats you within an inch of your life then cheats on you, odds are you aren’t gonna continue loving them lol. I do believe love exists tho (and yes I know there are battered/cucked people who stay in situations such as these, but those are exceptions, not the rule)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:11 PM
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Please clarify, you were just saying women don’t stay quiet about fucking stars. I agreed, citing that it is seen as an achievement to many to bag a famous person, and that makes the action an exception and not a rule. Do you believe women brag about sex with non famous people or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:10 PM
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It’s not stigmatizing if there’s no negative connotation. They love their ability to easily have this lifestyle, especially now that people are more safe/diseases aren’t a death sentence anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:07 PM
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Lol gay men are highly regarded as having the highest n count among pairings. There are reasons for this, the most indisputable of the lm being lack of pregnancy risk. That would leave lesbian sex and gay sex. And please please don’t tell me you believe that lesbians tend to have similar/higher n count than gay men. You’ll get laughed out of any grouping of people
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:06 PM
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You have to know that famous people are an exception right? There’s actual clout involved in “being able to get with a star”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:03 PM
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Remember, it’s weird to consider a man lazy if he’s still doing more work than you at the end of the day. Most sex is the man doing the work, the thrusting. Terms I would use for what you’re describing is “selfish lover” or “low stamina” or just bad at sex. Bring out the lazy term for when the man is doing less that you, otherwise you’re a hypocrite. That being said, there is a good deal of men who do less in bed than their partner and I don’t say this to minimize that reality
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:37 PM
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They want you to keep talking about page 1
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:21 PM
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Eh I would use the term white peoples instead of westerners, slightly more accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:07 PM
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Thinkin that was sarcasm
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:05 PM
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I’m not saying that it’s because you are their first. It just raises the odds. How many times do I have to say the term raising the odds?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:46 AM
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Okay and if you get to a girl first that raises the chances of being first love. And emotions are tied into sec with some people. I’ve said time and time again this isn’t foolproof and just raises the odds, I don’t see how that’s false
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:21 AM
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No one is saying impossible. And yes everyone starts as a virgin yes I don’t see how that refutes my point. What do you think I’m trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:20 AM
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Wouldn’t that standard be less inflated because people aren’t able to fake what they look like as well? That’s like saying old magazine cover era shit was worse than instagram because it was harder to fake it there
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 10:36 PM
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Yes it can happen, the chances are smaller in these peoples mind. I mean the less sexual experience you have, the higher you’ll naturally value the experiences you do have (if good). If the first person to fuck you satisfies you highly and they are a great partner, there is less temptation of outside things because there is no past to reference. This is not absolute whatsoever, but you have to admit it helps the odds in some form or fashion. This is why the trope of someone’s “first” remains. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:49 PM
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How can you say finding quality is way harder? Having more options to sift through is still harder than having to sift through less options. The only reason this wouldn’t be true is if women tend to be better partners than men. That’s not what you’re saying is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:00 PM
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They don’t want virgins for any of the reasons you gave. It’s not a fetish. They believe that a virgin has less outside temptation due to lack of experience. This is very understandable and believable. They also think that taking someone’s virginity and being with them will have them bond very closely to you, in a way where a first love just hits different. This is also very understandable and true. It reeks of insecurity to seek out virgins because of these things, but let’s not act like they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:36 PM
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I think the article was agreeing with your last part. It’s usually an acute incident that causes the dissolution of a marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:28 PM
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Who cares? WHO CARES?!?! lol jk that’s the right attitude to have
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:14 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:11 PM
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No way you’d know tbh, some people just wouldn’t chance you whatsoever because of it. It’s like having a beard or not. A woman might not swipe right on you or give you interest, but there’s no way you’d ever know the reason why. All you know is your level of success, not your actual success rate . You don’t know all the “failure to launch” scenarios. I’m similar height and had good success when single, but I would be naive to assume that no women ever swiped left on me (or didn’t get anywhere in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:10 PM
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Oh you disagree with the article. That’s very fair, I just couldn’t tell from the top level
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:06 PM
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Yep, only way it wouldn’t is if commitment was more important. If a woman went for the best man she could, then that man entered a monogamous relationship with her, that guy would be off the market. This is the only logical place for change to happen if any change will happen at all. The only thing is, why would someone settle down if they have a lot of options? There are definitely reasons, the list just isn’t as long as someone with less options.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:01 PM
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Note how you gave extremes for both the tall guy (ugly face) and the short guy (handsome). How do your experiences look when we are talking a tall guy with an average face and a short guy with an average face?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:58 PM
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Asking that, as well as if their experience is exemplar of normal people, or if it’s because of being rich and famous that this is more palatable
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:41 PM
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Aren’t we talking about couples who arent married?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:36 PM
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Sure there is, that’s why they love virgins so much over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:35 PM
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You think the rich and famous are the exception or the rule? That’s a legit question, I really don’t know
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:34 PM
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I agree, this just doesn’t really speak to the article at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:30 PM
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It does in terms of the SMP because they are active players in it. There is no “supposed to” in this world. People do what they do, and some single people have sex. I’m not here judging, just commenting on what is reality for many
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 12:03 PM
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Ehhhh they still do fine in OLD unless morbid
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:16 PM
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This is very intuitive when it comes to analyzing the preferences of people who have relatively hard lines related to race.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:15 PM
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Allllways gotta think 2 orgasms ahead /s (kinda)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:11 PM
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The casual partners thing is always what confuses me when it comes to other guys. Do they not want a repeat lol? Doing good gets you repeats. Maybe a big chunk of them can’t be bothered I guess, ikwym
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:39 PM
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I admit that I’m physically lucky and uniquely driven which helps, and I’m also lucky with the women that I’ve been with. Just the phrase “defies logic” kind insinuates that I’m lying or mistaken. I can accept that it’s improbable, especially the more partners/times having sex you have for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:27 PM
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That doesn’t defy logic lol, not when it’s a goal and you use communication/willingness. I’m lucky in the fact that every woman I’ve been with has had an orgasm before me so they know what gets them there. With that knowledge and the right environment, it happens. I really don’t see how what I’m saying defies logic
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:21 PM
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People who claim hate the term friend zone/say it doesnt exist are usually being disingenuous. What they mean most times is that they don’t think someone who is a friend is entitled to anything more yada yada. That’s fine, because that’s not what the term was about anyways. The friend zone is when someone close to you associates you as a friend, and due to primarily that fact (not because you’re unattractive or because of something that otherwise disqualifies you), they don’t want to/aren’t will…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 02:30 PM
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The issue people have is that in a progressive “equal” society, it comes off as wrong to want more than you can offer. Sounds like being a taker or a leech in some regards in the minds of people opposed to hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 02:10 PM
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I’m a type of guy who derives pleasure from making my partner feel good. The better time they have, the better time I have. This is for a relationship or for casual. I don’t believe I’m the only person in the world like this. Someone like this would gain gratification from “doing a good job”. No way I wouldn’t do whatever it generally takes to make a woman cum, literally why wouldn’t I?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 02:06 PM
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Some people are only attracted sexually to human women. Some people also gain more pleasure/excitement from interacting with a real person vs a toy. These are reasons why some people would prefer actual sex to masturbation even if there is no emotional connection
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 02:02 PM
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That’s untrue, there are people who can make all their partners cum lol they may not have ran into someone who had an issue with it or was willing to eat out/use a vibe if they didn’t cum from piv
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:59 PM
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Normally people aren’t talkin about those in relationships, they’re seen as out of the game/marketplace. It doesn’t matter how much sex a couple is having, because that’s of no relevance to anyone but them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:51 PM
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You gotta think about the type of person who is going out for spring break. Ugly/fat people do that less because social activity correlates with attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:47 PM
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Yeah the only thing they can control is themselves. Not their sexual desires, but deifying of women they want isn’t healthy. Some people create an imbalance, then complain that it exists. Women can’t put themselves on a pedestal, no one can
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:29 PM
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Sometimes it will give you just enough to roll into the auto body shop. You gotta be willing to pay the price and endure the time once you get there though. Many aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 06:24 PM
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Lots of women are thin or appear fit but have little stamina when riding, even when they’re enjoying the sex. Some claim the better the sex, the harder it is to ride
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:06 PM
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Yep, when sex is consensual, you are both giving the same thing in a general sense
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:05 PM
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I didn’t get anything from the guy I gave money to. I literally receive sex if I give sex to someone. You see the point I’m making
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:23 AM
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No, “I’m” tricking her to have sex with her. Using is like a one sided utility where the other person gets nothing or far less out of it. With consenting sex, you both at the minimum receive sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:59 AM
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Tricking or lying sounds better than using
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:46 AM
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Yeah pump and dump seems better to me because that doesn’t have implications either way about the sex itself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:44 AM
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Oh ikwym now, just the language of the phrase confuses me. Wouldn’t that be just lying? “Used for sex” just feels assault-y, like the sex wasn’t a mutual act between two people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:46 PM
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That makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:33 PM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:14 PM
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How would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:03 PM
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Wdym by “used for sex”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:02 PM
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Some men are lazy or feel like “well she doesn’t have to do that for me, so I’m having to do it more than her”. All I can really give in response is an enthusiastic “yes, but do you want this to work or not?”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 05:54 PM
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Weird isn’t it? Like a sixth sense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:44 PM
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The type of guy who makes a post like this would probably ask you block someone who tried to get with you/prevent orbiters. Seems insecure for sure, but would you oblige for his feelings sake/due to lack of interest for these guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:32 PM
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I get humans but do you agree or disagree with the notion that this influence appears stronger in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:13 PM
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I wonder what it is about women that (in my opinion) makes this herd mentality matter more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:00 AM
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I don’t believe that’s the only aspect at play, but I do understand and agree that is a big part of it. Too bad the lizard brain fails to use modern context of plan b/condoms/abortion innately. And even with that, there’s still the physical risk of a (typically) smaller person being in a submissive position in close quarters of a (typically) larger person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:58 PM
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I’m not OP, he never said explicitly why.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:55 PM
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He never said or acted like he was owed sex. He even said in response to that notion that no one was owed a relationship with him either. He’s saying no sex is a dealbreaker and if someone doesn’t want sex with him anymore, then he has the right to leave. Do you disagree with some part of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:47 PM
-2

A lot of that is social, both men not understanding and it being such a big deal to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:35 PM
0

Is anything that you like considered out of the norm or is this just traditional hang ups?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:32 PM
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No counter argument exists, you’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:28 PM
1

Well if we are talking upper bound, then most women would trend in the same direction imo. Especially if they are brought up in the same region. If we are talking attraction threshold (lower bound), then I think there would be more separation but not too far off. With the lower bound, other shit other than purely physical may come into play. Even if it’s fabricated. By fabricated, I mean like if a woman sees a dude and says “he seems nice”. That’s bullshit to anyone thinking, because we know a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 10:39 PM
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I think charm is a non (or extremely mitigated) factor in men compared to women. If you are above fuckable threshold, then I would fuck you. That’s really the end of it for most men. Women typically have more more options so in a way it makes sense to have a need to be convinced to an extent, but it seems as if there is something internal that makes them not just be cool with fucking off rip if the guy meets look threshold. Probably pregnancy/violence risk, that’s what most ppl go with
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 10:22 PM
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I’m a guy, but I don’t believe it affects the upper bound (what I want most). I think it does, however, affect the desire threshold. I think part of attraction is social pressure. I’m a good looking dude, and I think society would make fun of me if I was into “lesser” women. I don’t want to say that affects my inner desires, but dude it probably does. When I was a little heavier, I started finding myself more willing to fuck bigger women. During points where I was in great shape, it didn’t/doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 10:18 PM
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What people want most is the best they can get. If they do not think that they can achieve the best, they go for what they think they can get. It’s more nuanced than want vs not want. It’s about what they want more/most. I think settling only applies when someone ends up with someone who doesn’t even meet the “want” threshold. Someone who isn’t “good enough” to be wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 10:06 PM
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In no way did I denote that RP invented anything. And you said everyone is foolhardy then just have an example with more women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:54 PM
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Wouldn’t that make them rather foolhardy? Falling so susceptible to basic game tactics that RP puts out?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:46 PM
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Yeah I wouldn’t call that game, because game denotes that you’re actively doing something rather than just being you. Thus terms like “gaming a system”. But that’s me being hung up on semantics, ikwym
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:36 PM
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Done!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:31 PM
2

Oh I disagree, I will edit to make that more clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:30 PM
1

A weak perception of it maybe, people start mincing and acting like you can truly know confidence based on someone’s stance or the way they speak. That’s what makes it game, it’s a show and dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:28 PM
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All these are within the context of a relationship of some sort. At the point of a date, they aren’t a stranger anymore. I don’t think we disagree on this part
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:26 PM
0

That’s why I italicized the term “of some sort”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:25 PM
1

These things cannot be demonstrated unless a relationship of some sort is already formed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:13 PM
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Untrue. Someone can be an asshole even if they’re better than you. It’s independent of status or any of that. Idk why people conflate the two Boils down further to show that some types of people look too deeply into things like what they consider desperate or high status. Logically why would anyone actually give a fuck about either of those things outside of a potential LTR? Why would I care if a girl seems desperate if I just want to fuck her? Why would a girl care about the status of a man who…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 08:42 PM
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It could be something as simple as “he’s weird” lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:49 PM
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I 100 perfect agree, I’m just saying that character had nothing to do with this at all so I wasn’t trying to talk about it necessarily. Again, you’re right about it though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:26 PM
1

I agree, the earlier the better
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:15 PM
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Agreed, that’s just not what the post was about, so I was trying to steer it back to physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:08 PM
0

This is true
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:08 PM
2

Seems very underhanded to select friends based on how it will affect your prospects, but you’re right as rain
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:07 PM
2

Isn’t the average man of NPC level?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:53 PM
1

Yep exactly, that’s how all people tend to act when it comes to a scarce resource
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:43 PM
2

Remember, we’re talking about womens physical attraction to men, not character traits (which make more sense). Can you redo your response but with coworkers opinion on physical attraction (not the asshole thing) in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:35 PM
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You’re forgetting that a tall dude and a short woman can make a short dude. A pretty huge indicator of sexual attraction/chance to “mate”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:30 PM
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How does that make sense? A lot of women going for a guy isn’t any indication of his intentions. Let’s use a real life scenario, an office setting. A new girl is in the office and a guy wants to try their luck with her. Does the opinion of the other ladies in the office matter to this women, and if so, why? Remember, the ladies in the office do not know anything about the guy other than what he does at work (like most office settings)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:25 PM
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If the overlap was that huge, wouldn’t it benefit women to avoid that type of person? I think this is the point that incels make, and they get tripped up here because they’re thinking from a logical mindset. Attraction is not that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:18 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:26 PM
1

Lot of black people arent fuckin with that either just sayin.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:21 PM
1

Yeah like gtfo
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:58 PM
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This wasn’t meant to be negative in any way, it’s just sex isn’t practiced as a mutual exchange in women the same way as men typically. Do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:31 PM
1

Her hips look so weird
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:13 PM
1

Some people don’t like bohemian rhapsody, that’s cultural
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:12 PM
2

It’s like sex is a bargaining chip for some women but even on the unconscious level
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:09 PM
0

Try an SSRI
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:07 PM
1

Remember, all these answers show that you have to get your foot in the door first to show them this part of you (unless your relationship started as friends)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:03 PM
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True!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:58 AM
1

I didn’t mean my cum was human lol, and thank you for the response. Biologically I agree with you. Do you think plan B should be banned, or more a grey area?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:08 AM
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Would you consider this typical? And would you say that the waiting helped out?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:52 AM
1

Exactly what I was searching for, your take on the matter. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:43 AM
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The world is scary as it is, but there are added risks as a woman. This is often preached to women from a young age
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:41 AM
1

You type in ebony and it’s a lot of white guy black woman too, but yeah anecdotally ikwym as far as white women not wanting to be in relationships with black men at least, but I know that isn’t much to go off
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:34 AM
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That’s an interesting take idk if I’ve thought about before. How long do you think it takes the average couple to fall in love? Additionally, how long do you think it takes the average couple to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:10 PM
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We are both just like and nothing like the last amazing/shitty experience you had. A red flag means stop. Not stop and turn around, or stop and run, but stop. Assess the situation for what it is, then proceed with what you believe is best. The world is very scary for you. We know that. Nothing we do will actually change that, even if something we do makes you feel less scared.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:03 PM
1

I love peep show
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:42 PM
0

What circumstances would exist where a healthy adult relationship would grow to the point of love before the point where sex starts?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:40 PM
2

Likewise mate
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:55 PM
2

Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:52 PM
3

And your opinion on when human life begins is what?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:49 PM
2

Still no opinion, I mean hell, it’s real common for people to say at heart beat stage (7 weeks) but you’re saying nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:47 PM
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Fucking typical can’t even state your opinion lol, bet you reply to this though (or don’t, please don’t)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:45 PM
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Alive in a legal sense. My cum is alive biologically mate. You failed to give your opinion and spent all your time criticizing mine. That’s childish. So I’ll ask again, what’s your opinion on when human life begins?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:40 PM
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Sadly no clear legal definition. My opinion when it comes to a human is at the point where it can live independent of the mother, so between 6-7 months. What about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:32 PM
3

How can you kill what is not alive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:25 PM
7

What would women en masse have to do in order to prove they deserve rights in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:22 PM
3

There’s a big difference between less desirable than whites and “I will reject you”. Especially if there are only 5% white guys to choose from. Unless of course you’re saying that the vast majority of white women would not be interested in getting with a non white person at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:18 PM
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With a take like this, wonder how you feel about other formerly oppressed groups who were also given rights. Just weird man, yes white men had all the power in much of the world, yes they changed their minds and that’s the primary reason things are the way they are. Is that…not better than the alternative of things being the way they were?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:13 PM
2

We now know who to ignore forever, right everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:10 PM
2

That’s very true
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:46 PM
1

Yeah I’d say don’t do it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:48 PM
1

Would that be a just for her thing or would it feel good for you too?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:38 PM
1

Never heard of this actually
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:30 PM
0

Desensitization isn’t a moral panic talking point unless it’s from the standpoint of changing morals. Physical and sexual desensitization is an entirely different subject. You’re right about what you’re saying, I just think this is a different talking point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:01 PM
1

Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:16 PM
1

You’re well on your way. Probably more ahead than you realize
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:16 PM
5

Lol witches
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:14 PM
1

I’ve been talking to a lot of people who say yes to edibles but no to smoking weed. I know the high is different, but what other reasons do you personally have?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:10 PM
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People pick up what you put down, you gotta just be smoother. Can’t wear your heart on your sleeve. I know you’re saying you’re already trying, but just know that you can do a better job at it, and when you get there, you’ll get the results you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:09 PM
1

Molly/mdma is the same thing, you can pretty reliably buy it online. Get a testing kit!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:07 PM
5

Could you be falling too fast for them? They tend to love it when their feelings are reciprocated, but are pressured when you’re first
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:05 PM
1

Samurai+
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:00 PM
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That’s real tho. You really think the media doesn’t desensitize? So many of us don’t flinch when seeing shootings and shit as if we are born in warzones. Not saying whether it’s bad or not, but desensitization via media is undeniable
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:46 PM
0

Good to hear. The risk is there, be safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:44 PM
0

Remember, non POV porn is conditioning yourself to become aroused (and associate cumming with) the image of someone else fucking the woman of your desire. It’s literal cuck training. For the health of your sex life, please do not watch porn, at least porn that isn’t POV where the guy in the vid looks like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:42 PM
2

Just a troll template is all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:39 PM
1

If she’s willing to take your money, why wouldn’t she take other peoples too? You deserve some of that money because you’re the one finding the business, that’s what pimping is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:38 PM
1

Something something bell curve. Depends on how unattractive for both but ikwym you’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:31 PM
1

Stop responding to this person, ignore them maybe even block them. They’re worthless before during and probably after purge. They want responses, so let’s not give them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:30 PM
1

Stop responding to this person, ignore them maybe even block them. They’re worthless before during and probably after purge. They want responses, so let’s not give them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:28 PM
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Stop responding to this person, ignore them maybe even block them. They’re worthless before during and probably after purge. They want responses, so let’s not give them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:28 PM
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Stop responding to this person, ignore them maybe even block them. They’re worthless before during and probably after purge. They want responses, so let’s not give them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:28 PM
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Lol in this scenario they always describe a 5’5” dude who is ripped out of his mind. Almost no one wants a guy to be hulking, tall or short
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:26 PM
1

Stop replying to this person. Ignore them even after the purge is over
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:23 PM
1

Everything is nature
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:21 PM
1

RP does not demand equal distribution of pussy whatsoever. Where do people get this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:19 PM
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Not really an answer to the question mate
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:18 PM
2

Psst stop responding to this person. Ignore their existence, only way to go about it please
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:14 PM
1

Why don’t you pimp her out and make some cash? Put her onto other dudes who want/need pussy and she’ll make both of y’all good money plus you get to fuck her for free
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:14 PM
5

Like you don’t want sex unless it’s part of a loving arrangement? That sounds pretty voluntary. Sure you’re an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:08 PM
3

Legit question, why not just pay for it if you’re that down bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:05 PM
3

Yeah shits like a normal week except racism is leaking a bit and personal attacks are allowed. The sentiment is the same week in and week out
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:52 PM
2

Usually yeah, only exception I see argued would be the guy who is just big all around like big frame but also fat
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:51 PM
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What’s your definition of chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:49 PM
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Hey guys here’s an idea for when purge is over. Let’s completely ignore/downvote shit takes that don’t foster discussion rather than responding on some “well actually” shit. I see a lot of the same shit on here any other week, just thinly veiled.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:32 AM
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Not all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:24 AM
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From now on just stop responding to this person anytime you see them. Like literally
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:54 AM
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I’m not
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:14 PM
3

At least she’s rich, 400 acres damn
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:02 PM
1

Seems more and more like an archaic practice as generations come and go
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:47 PM
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May have backfired with its widespread appeal among the younger generations. The older ones still hate it at large
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:17 PM
2

Ahhhhh I imagine. Archaic practice
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:16 PM
1

Getting married next year, paperwork? It’s more than just a couple “sign here” type stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:05 PM
2

Thanks for the clarification, I understand what you mean and agree
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:04 PM
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Happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:03 PM
1

Eh, sociopaths book at least. Self-centered nature is inherently advantageous until 2 things happen. 1, people find out. And 2, people decide not to put up with it. Who doesn’t hate being lied to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:03 PM
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Yeah, changing yourself isn’t a cornerstone of FDS, but I feel like that’s where the monetization may come in strong; “things haven’t been working ladies? Try _____! Be a better you for you, and I’m sure he’ll notice too!”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:57 PM
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What about TODAY as far as the impact of the BBC trope? I understand and agree with past effects and how those shape things today, I’m specifically wondering if there’s current negative effects as well in your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:55 PM
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Pretty common knowledge that globally, white men are considered more attractive than every other race.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:53 PM
1

It’s both, but white women more so in some ways
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:51 PM
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I’m talking about specifically the BBC trope and it’s affects, not blackness in a general sense. Thought we were on the same page
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:46 PM
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FDS at a glance is “don’t settle, ride carousel/abstain until something you’re willing to give everything up for comes along”. That’s solid advice for a woman until you realize that many successful relationships involve growing with your partner rather than being lucky enough to have someone already perfect and ready for you. This is me speaking from a younger perspective (sub 30). I truly believe a 30+ woman would be better off following what I described as FDS mantra because at that age, it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:44 PM
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I was talking about modern day, you’re right about what you’re saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:29 PM
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It does, lying is largely advantageous until caught. Even then, it’s advantageous until labeled a liar. Even then, you can just move on to the next rube until they find out about your lying
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:28 PM
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Glad women in stem is increasing, hopefully these things will lessen
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:10 PM
1

Doesn’t seem to hurt the black man in a general way based on what you’re saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:07 PM
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Do you think these experiences you’ve witnessed are more than an exception?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:04 PM
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That’s the thing about it. A good liar isn’t seen as a liar because they got away with it. At least long enough to get what they wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:03 PM
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More than half of Dutch adults are married. The rates are lower than much of the world though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:54 PM
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How do they have it harder in stem when they’re a minority?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:31 PM
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That’s pretty cool, what country?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:19 PM
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