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| 3 | It's shit like this...Sounds to me like you grew up in a safe and supportive home, please don't assume everybody did the same. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/12 01:23 AM |
| 1 | It's shit like this...Not everybody knows to take a rape kit, it's not completely common knowledge yet, but I would agree that someone should not be able to be convicted without solid proof. Let us consider a case where the woman involved actually was raped, she didn't have the most solid evidence but she wanted to try her case anyway. He gets off (as he should if there is no evidence), he could then easily if this were the case turn around and send her to jail. Basically the repercussions could be as far reaching as… | /r/MensRights | 24/11/12 11:38 PM |
| 2 | It's shit like this...And did you do anything so mortifyingly awful as sending your father to prison before that? How can you judge how you would feel if you never effected someone to that extent with a lie? And how can you judge how you would feel if you have never had to fear the legal repercussions of what you did? If you did, I would be very interested to hear about your experience. | /r/MensRights | 24/11/12 11:30 PM |
| 1 | It's shit like this...I am not convinced you read my previous comments on this thread (and I'm not sure what you expect to come from posting pretty much the same comment 3 times), or the article posted that was not in a red block. I am talking about when she originally lied, and I quote: Now 23 years old, Kennedy says guilt prompted her to tell police in January that she lied as an 11-year-old So no I was talking about someone who was 11, and scared. I am talking about a system that taught her this is okay. I am sayi… | /r/MensRights | 24/11/12 11:25 PM |
| 1 | It's shit like this...There has to be a strict legal terms for when someone is considered an adult in the eyes of the court. I was merely arguing that developmentally and psychologically her actions make sense. I'm not saying that it is okay, or excusable that she did not come clean sooner, I was just trying to give a more nuanced look at the case. When I posted the majority of the thread was ad hominem attacks rather than a discussion of the issues raised by the article, so I was trying to humanize her to the audien… | /r/MensRights | 24/11/12 06:46 AM |
| 1 | It's shit like this...I was adressing the argument made before that she should have come clean sooner. I was arguing that a 13-year-old, while older, should still be treated as a child. | /r/MensRights | 24/11/12 06:41 AM |
| 2 | It's shit like this...However flawed that system is, I don't think you could possibly think the whole system should be thrown out I didn't mean to imply that, that is not what I think. I don't mean to say that she deserves no consequences, I mean to say that she does not deserve as harsh of consequences as an adult who did the same thing, and does not deserve to be demonized, I think your focus in this article would be better placed on the fact that as an 11-year-old this was something she even thought to do. It was … | /r/MensRights | 23/11/12 04:14 PM |
| 3 | It's shit like this...Allow me to paraphrase from my response to a similar post. I do not think she is free of blame at all, but I also believe that the way she behaved was not unpredictable in any way. First off I am not inclined to condemn a 13-year-old, any more than I would like to condemn an 11-year-old, she is still very young at this point, and most likely terrified and ashamed of what she did. Teenagers are selfish creatures, so as much as her actions are morally reprehensible, I don't find them to be out of … | /r/MensRights | 23/11/12 08:14 AM |
| 4 | It's shit like this...Oh of course she is not totally free of blame, but it is also hard for children to face mistakes made, I would imagine that she was afraid of what would happen when she told the truth. While this obviously does not excuse her actions, it puts them in perspective, I think it's a human thing to hide from our mistakes. She told the truth vaguely at the point when she was developmentally an adult. As much as 18-year-olds are in many ways adults, I feel that the way they cope with their errors is one… | /r/MensRights | 23/11/12 07:55 AM |
| 20 | It's shit like this...Guys, as much as I'm totally against false testimonies, I just want to point out that this woman was 11 when she made these claims. That is to say she was still in the developmental stages that allow her to think of others above herself, and look at both sides of an argument. In addition it is likely that at 11 she did not fully grasp what would happen to her father, and the legal implications of her false testimony. This may not be the best example for your cause, as much as there are many. | /r/MensRights | 23/11/12 06:29 AM |
| 1 | What a wonderful world we live in edited for privacyI didn't mean to compare severity. I'm making the point that generalizing women, when that is on the list of things you object to in terms of men, weakens your subreddits claim that you want equality, not male superiority. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/12 05:16 PM |
| 0 | What a wonderful world we live in edited for privacyI'm fully prepared for this opinion to be disparaged. First off, I agree wholeheartedly that what this woman did was wrong, and it is inexcusable that pressing charges will be a challenge. That being said addressing this issue should go more towards modifying the social constructions of both genders in such a way that allows women to get away with this in the eyes of the law. You make it possible to press charges, and you make all people accountable for their actions. What you men should take ca… | /r/MensRights | 05/04/12 08:30 AM |
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