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I once went out with 4 girls from Michigan in a row one spring in Seattle. I was like "wtf is going on".
/r/PussyPassDenied25/03/21 06:50 PM
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The Seattle dating scene is such a mixed bag though, easy to burn out. There are so many single people that you end up, just statistically getting a lot of first dates and not much after. I'd say it's again 50/50 on if it is me or them deciding on a second date though which is nice. Also dating during COVID has sucked too. I got into one potentially serious relationship and in the end it was super weird just doing the socially distanced dating thing. It's also super weird that like we were weari…
/r/PussyPassDenied25/03/21 06:27 PM
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Haha yea. I have a lot of platonic female friends, a few of them single and I've seen their tinder feeds. Guys are a fucking joke usually. Its literally like 90% shirtless dudes, fish, shirtless dude with a fish, or just pics of their truck. And this is in Seattle. Like wtf, why are you trying to show off your lifted truck in Seattle? Get a fucking clue. Also I used to travel a lot for work to the south (thanks NASA for always being in bumfucksville) and if I was headed out that way I'd literall…
/r/PussyPassDenied25/03/21 05:54 PM
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Maybe? I don't see it haha. I just think I get by on my humor and charm. Also I live in Seattle and its mostly single people here, but in general the dating scene sucks as everyone is very career focused (which is funny when my profile talks about how much I love my job).
/r/PussyPassDenied25/03/21 03:57 PM
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Yea I got an ego boost from /r/tinder recently. Tons of guys posting how they never get a single match. Apparently me getting enough matches to have to delete my account regularly cause it's too much trouble to unmatch them all after a while is super rare for a guy. I'm 5'8, with a gut, shaved head, and a beard. My profile is basically me saying I'm a workaholic. A friend that ended up dating a girl I'd gone on a date with from tinder was able to determine it was me when the friend described me …
/r/PussyPassDenied25/03/21 03:25 PM
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Yea, people seem to think privilege inherently is blaming the people that have privilege. The fact that men don't get criticized on the clothes they wear as much, especially in celebrity culture is definitely a privilege afforded to men. All it means is that they can do it. Doesn't mean they are somehow pushing it on women that women have to wear a new thing every time or that they created or are responsible for that culture.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/01/21 12:57 AM
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Nah, just not willing to engage in irrational debate and logical fallacies with incels. I'm not the one who made a claim about solid evidence and then didn't say what that'd constitute. Nor am I the one to go on and say rapists shouldn't go to jail. So yea, why would I continue to waste my time here? You guys are beyond help.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/10/20 01:37 AM
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A rapist being put in jail won't help the victim? What about possible future victims or the same victim being revictimized? That seems like pretty fundamentally flawed logic.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/10/20 05:30 PM
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And what is solid evidence in your book?
/r/PussyPassDenied11/10/20 05:19 PM
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Those countries also have the services needed to support single parents. Unless we want to socialize the cost of raising children better in the US then we need to keep the responsibility of a child on both parents. And it isn't even true, the person you replied to is literally lying.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/11/19 07:41 PM
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She never sexually assaulted them. She promised sex in exchange for money, and instead of having sex with them, drugged them and robbed them. I mean unless you consider not getting sex for your money sexual assault (which I'd not be surprised a few redditors would literally find worse than actual rape) then I really have never seen what people are talking about in relationship to Cardi B.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/10/19 12:08 AM
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That fact that you can't see the ironic humor there is probably telling...
/r/PussyPassDenied01/10/19 12:05 AM
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Why waste it?
/r/MensRights21/08/19 03:50 PM
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Don't underestimate us Americans for doing something blindly and without justification for decades after it's been proven to be useless or harmful or stupid.
/r/MensRights21/08/19 03:46 PM
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Well because one is male circumcision and the other is a voluntary plastic surgery that is chosen to be performed by adult women. Female circumcision is absolutely horrifying, even compared to male circumcision as it has absolutely no even challenged evidence of being hygienic, is usually performed on girls when they are much older (10-12), often uses acid to burn away the clitoral hood, and absolutely makes sex of any kind physically unpleasant after. Not to mention the practice is routinely pe…
/r/MensRights21/08/19 03:31 PM
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There was a crazy guy who made cereal who thought masturbating made you sick so he said circumcision would help prevent it. Thanks Kellog. Also just for the record all the moms I know were the ones against their sons being circumcised, including mine. Luckily my mom put up a big enough fight. Also never met a woman that cared about the cut of my dick.
/r/MensRights21/08/19 03:25 PM
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TBH I also saw the sub and still couldn't tell if it was a joke.
/r/MensRights21/08/19 03:20 PM
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What are you being discriminated against? What rights and benefits are you being denied? And no, calling each other names on the internet doesn't count.
/r/MensRights19/08/19 05:53 PM
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We don't need to feminise men. We need to care about their actual problems that aren't being addressed. Such as?
/r/MensRights19/08/19 05:01 PM
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I bet her husband and father were real pieces of shit to let her think that's how men should act.
/r/MensRights19/08/19 05:00 PM
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And what was your father like? Was he a good person who was emotionally available and empathetic or a POS and you realized that was a toxic attitude? I don't understand how people in this thread blame women for how they expect their sons to act when the biggest influence on their perceptions of how men and boys should be is usually their father and brothers (whose biggest influence in their behavior as men is usually their father). It takes two to tango and literally no one here seems to grasp s…
/r/MensRights19/08/19 04:59 PM
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Where do women get their strongest impression on what a man should act like? From their fathers when they are girls. There is literally even a popular term for in "daddy issues".
/r/MensRights19/08/19 04:55 PM
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How dare they be concerned about themselves and not just you. The horror!
/r/MensRights19/08/19 04:53 PM
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Because most fathers and some mothers suck and it's a cycle of abuse? Where do you think women learn their values of what men should be most often? Their fathers.
/r/MensRights19/08/19 04:52 PM
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Except women are the most affected by the vast majority of social problems. Acknowledging one problem is larger is not denying another problem even exists. That is a childlike understanding of a situation. It's almost like people don't understand systemic effects and revert to idiotic tribalism. "Hur dur women bad cause they care about their problems not mine." Grow the fuck up (that's different from man up btw in that you need to stop acting like a child to be a man or a woman).
/r/MensRights19/08/19 04:49 PM
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In my 20 years of dating I've never met a woman who was put off by me being emotionally open and available. I've met plenty of guys though that get totally uncomfortable and offput by anyone talking about their feelings. This is hardly a problem with women as much as it is with men and the person up there being downvoted is pretty strong proof of that.
/r/MensRights19/08/19 04:46 PM
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How come literally every person I know who had a rough childhood it was their dad with this attitude, not the mom? The moms would always get blamed for "coddling the boy" or "making him soft". I believe at least from my experiences that the dad is usually the one beating this, figuratively or literally, into their sons. No one should be excusing bad fathers for their part in creating these toxic ideas about how boys and men should behave.
/r/MensRights19/08/19 04:43 PM
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You're literally calling for more violence and don't see the irony or hypocrisy in this. Are you going to be the next incel mass shooter?
/r/MensRights19/08/19 03:29 PM
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I don't think you understand ironic equivalency as a rhetorical device...
/r/PussyPassDenied04/08/19 10:13 PM
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Her getting pregnant was not some external choice. The guy has a part in it. Do you not understand how sexual reproduction works?! Your choice as a man is to have sex or not. If you have safe sex and the woman still ends up pregnant that's on both of you equally, but that's where the equality stops because you do not get any say over what she does with her body from then on. If you don't want to risk a kid don't put it in.
/r/MensRights15/06/19 07:15 PM
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He did get to choose. You seem to be equating the choice to have sex with the choice of keeping a resulting child. Your choice as a man is to have sex or not. You do not get a choice of what a person does with their body after.
/r/MensRights15/06/19 06:59 PM
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He had a say. He contributed sperm. The pregnancy didn't just happen magically! If he didn't want a pregnancy then he shouldn't have risked it by having sex.
/r/MensRights15/06/19 06:57 PM
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Except by virtue of the fact that it is the sole responsibility of the woman to carry the child. Everyone seems to gloss over the sex part and skip right to pregnancy. You don't get someone pregnant without sex. If you have sex and a pregnancy results you are half responsible. End of story. If the woman keeps or aborts it is her choice and no one else's because it is her body that has to do the labor of pregnancy.
/r/MensRights15/06/19 06:57 PM
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No one is debating abortion in this argument. You're basically arguing about something no one is talking about and ignoring the question in the thread, so unless you wanna stay on topic I'm not going to debate you on the morality or ethics of abortion or your stance on it since it really isn't relevant to the arguments at hand.
/r/MensRights15/06/19 04:36 PM
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Abortion is solely the choice of the mother. Yes the decision affects multiple parties, but the choice is solely hers because it is her body. She has autonomy over that. You get a choice, the choice is having sex in the first place. The biological function of sex is pregnancy and reproduction. You consented to (possible) reproduction when choosing to have sex. It's just both parties agreed to do everything possible to prevent the pregnancy. But if a pregnancy does occur the man really has no say…
/r/MensRights15/06/19 03:09 PM
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OP is that what you are saying? That you should carry no risk whatsoever for an accidental pregnancy? That if you choose to have sex with a woman, and despite everything she ends up pregnant despite the best efforts of both of you to not be, you should be able to walk away free and easy from the mistake and place all the risk and consequences on the woman? Is that what you are saying OP?
/r/MensRights15/06/19 02:57 PM
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No, that's basic biology. If you believe a woman has bodily autonomy, then she, by nature has more options. This isn't some institutionalized inequality, it is just the facts of life. Every time I have sex with someone and I put on a condom I trust that the condom is going to do its job. Every time I have sex without a condom and my partner is on working birth control I trust that their birth control will work. My risk of becoming a father starts when I put my penis in her and choice of potentia…
/r/MensRights15/06/19 02:38 PM
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Right but all of that is besides the point... You're now arguing about abortion and stuff like that which isn't even the point of this thread. And ignoring rape because that situation is pretty clear cut (or at least should be). The question is simple: if you do everything possible to have safe sex, both man and woman, and the woman still ends up pregnant do you feel you still have a right to choices that woman makes with her body after sex? The argument that OP is making is pretty clear cut, an…
/r/MensRights15/06/19 02:29 PM
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So you are saying if you have sex and the woman accidentally becomes pregnant you as a man should be able to opt out of any responsibility?
/r/MensRights15/06/19 11:16 AM
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You can not stick your dick in them? You have that right. You seem to think that you somehow have some level of decision making ability about what a woman does or doesn't do with their body after sex.
/r/MensRights15/06/19 11:04 AM
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Your consent as a man to reproduce was cumming inside her.
/r/MensRights15/06/19 11:02 AM
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You seem to be ignoring the fact that the mother has to support it for ~9 months and it intrinsically affects everything about the mother. Or do you think babies are just in a little bag and nothing happens to the woman besides she becomes fat? Honestly your post borders on /r/badwomensanatomy with how fundamentally wrong you seem to understand the concept of pregnancy.
/r/MensRights15/06/19 08:46 AM
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Sorry but which part is being exploited right now? That the woman gets to choose what she does with her body post sex? Or that if you have sex and through some circumstance that is of no control by either party the woman ends up pregnant you both need to deal with the consequences of that? Seems pretty equal at the moment. You don't get to tell a woman what to do with her body, and you understand that sex can lead to pregnancy. If pregnancy still happens through no fault of either party you both…
/r/MensRights15/06/19 08:43 AM
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Not even close to the same thing. If you take all possible precautions and you still end up with a woman pregnant you're asking for a "pass the buck" card to make it entirely the woman's responsibility. No one is saying don't have sex. I am saying realize that it comes with risk still and don't try and figure out a way to put that risk entirely on the woman through some artificial means.
/r/MensRights15/06/19 08:40 AM
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Getting an abortion or choosing to be a single mother are also huge life changing decisions. You're basically putting the entire onus of an unplanned pregnancy on the mother and giving the guy a total out if they want. That is beyond fucked up.
/r/MensRights15/06/19 06:27 AM
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Please read that and tell me how that doesn't put an unfair burden on the mother? You're literally arguing for a get out of fatherhood free card if totally consentual safe sex goes wrong. If you don't want to risk having a kid don't have sex. Or accept responsibility for your choices.
/r/MensRights15/06/19 06:26 AM
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Do you not see the actual inequality in that? If a woman becomes pregnant, even if she uses birth control it is no one's choice but hers to keep it or not. Both her and the father should have understood that pregnancy is a risk from having sex (I don't think this should have to be explained to most people...). You and I have a choice as men to be the father or not. We made that choice when we had sex with the mother. We don't get a say in what happens in their body after that. If you don't want …
/r/MensRights15/06/19 06:23 AM
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Yea... But the woman also has to carry the child. They are two independent choices. The fact that biology only really presents one choice to men, to have sex or not, is not some systemic problem with equality in any legal sense, but just nature. You can chose to have sex or not. Your ability to prevent becoming a father stops at that choice. It seems unfair but that's how sex works.
/r/MensRights15/06/19 06:17 AM
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Except you made the choice to have sex. It isn't anyone's fault but your own if you don't understand the risk that even safe sex with condoms, and even possibly the pill or other birth control can result in pregnancy. You are basically arguing for a get out of fatherhood card in any situation if something goes wrong with the birth control. That is kind of fucked up if you ask me. You should understand the risks sex carries and not try to make some weird argument that you are trying to equalize t…
/r/MensRights15/06/19 06:13 AM
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You do have a choice. Unless we are talking about rape you have a choice to have safe protected sex and understand the risk that pregnancy is still a possibility even with condoms. The fact that your actionable choice ends with the act of sex and then a second independent choice is held by the woman to keep or abort a pregnancy is not some arbitrary power imbalance, it's simple biology. Unless you are arguing for the right to force a woman to have an abortion, all of these choices respect bodily…
/r/MensRights15/06/19 06:09 AM
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Yes, but those toxic traits are not focused just on how to attract women. Blaming some women for liking them is just excusing the fact that as men it's our responsibility to change them at the end of the day. Getting your dick wet shouldn't be the arbiter of being a good person or not.
/r/MensRights22/01/19 08:05 PM
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You quoted my argument then created a totally unrelated strawman and attacked me over it. If anyone is going to be claiming character traits about others maybe it shouldn't be you...
/r/MensRights22/01/19 05:44 PM
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So toxic masculinity is women's fault? I see.
/r/MensRights22/01/19 05:18 PM
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Thank you for being an example of my argument.
/r/MensRights22/01/19 05:16 PM
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Woah woah. No. Sorry. Just because two problems exist doesn't mean if one is larger you also have to equally cover the smaller problem. That turns into a logical fallacy of whataboutism pretty quick. You cover them both equally but you don't toss up the same one on one side every time something bad happens on the other. Nor do you make false comparisons. Like a guy going on a killing spree because he is an incel is not the same as a girl lying about being raped. One is clearly worse than the oth…
/r/MensRights22/01/19 03:45 PM
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You need more steak, more squats and less being a faggot in your life. And this gets upvoted here. Neat. Kinda seems counter to a whole lot of the men's rights movement to be calling people faggots and saying they need to be more of a man.
/r/MensRights05/12/18 03:43 PM
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Did you look at the other replies to the parent? They are complaining about intersectionality, which inherently has to do with race.
/r/MensRights05/12/18 03:43 PM
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Not really when the entire thread is about race and sex. I'd imagine it is fairly relevant to the conversation.
/r/MensRights05/12/18 03:30 PM
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Yea, it is super hard to believe that a white guy is using reddit.
/r/MensRights05/12/18 03:25 PM
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Do you really not understand basic concepts like inclusion vs. exclusion? Only us vs. all of us? As a white male I honestly am confused how literally any other white male would feel threatened or turned off by this message. You'd have to be deeply insecure I'd imagine and see equality as a loss for yourself.
/r/MensRights05/12/18 02:47 PM
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Yes, I actually used to teach at the college level.
/r/MensRights29/11/18 07:21 PM
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I'm just saying normal people don't usually call people those things unless there is a reason to. If people are calling you those things, if everyone else is the racist because they are calling you a racist, maybe you might actually be a little bit racist?
/r/MensRights29/11/18 05:42 PM
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Huh, I've never felt those things... Weird. Maybe you project insecurity and those attitudes without realizing it?
/r/MensRights29/11/18 05:31 PM
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I'll let you know when I feel any effect from that.
/r/MensRights29/11/18 03:10 PM
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Trust me, there is no lack of us in the field... The point is to increase diversity. Yes that means discrimination, inherently. Again, there is no lack of white guys in aerospace.
/r/MensRights29/11/18 07:49 AM
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Again, which of those 3 points is part of your problem and lets go from there.
/r/MensRights09/09/18 07:31 PM
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What are you talking about then? You claimed it is dangerous because it could put people on a registry. I said that is only if a judge deems it so. You keep saying it's dangerous because it could put people on a registry. I ask then if your problem isn't with the law, because again, it is up to the judges to determine sentencing. You come back saying no it isn't the judges. So is your problem: The law The judges Or do you just think that taking upskirt photos of people should never land you on a…
/r/MensRights09/09/18 05:22 PM
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So you have a problem with the judges then and not the law? If the law allows for discretion in sentencing then that seems to be your problem... not the law. My main argument is you seem to not know what you are actually talking about, which you continue to prove each time you post... You need to slow down and really really really think about what specifically is making you angry.
/r/MensRights09/09/18 05:05 PM
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I was talking about the law, not "feminists". You keep making weird logical fallacies. Stop. The law, you even provided a link to it, said in "the worst cases" put them on a registry. So you do have a problem with the law, but also don't? Do you not understand how courts work, even in the UK? There is judicial discretion to the sentencing. If you're some knob taking a random photo of a girl with her panties showing in a pub and she sees and gets angry (rightfully so) a judge is going to take a d…
/r/MensRights09/09/18 04:25 PM
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But you just said you are for them being a sexual offense. In the worst cases where someone is a blatant vouriest and is taking sexual photos of people without their permission do you not agree that maybe they should be placed on a registry if they are that pervasive. The law clearly specified gradations in punishment based on the severity of the crime. What if they were exclusively pictures up the skirts of little girls? Is that not a valid enough reason to maybe deem their actions predatory? Y…
/r/MensRights09/09/18 04:14 PM
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So then what is your problem with that specific law?
/r/MensRights09/09/18 04:11 PM
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So you are for upskirt photos not being a sexual offense?
/r/MensRights09/09/18 04:07 PM
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Wait so are you mad about not being able to look up women's skirts or is this a hypothetical? Because you sound like you are mad about that.
/r/MensRights09/09/18 03:41 PM
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Not even in the west. Struggle is not a binary condition. Terms are relative. Just because most of the west isn't ISIS controlled Syria doesn't mean it's also the absolute bastion of perfection and equality. People who are generally privileged in most regards are still free to complain about inequality they still might face.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:40 PM
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LMAO. Right. Absolutes as an argument usually betray a very obvious ignorance buddy.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:37 PM
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You do realize privilege is relative right? Just because something isn't as bad as the worst doesn't mean it is therefore the best. Struggle always exists because inequality is not binary.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:37 PM
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Why?
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:35 PM
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Yea, totally more healthy to rip children away from their parents than force one of them to retain responsibility for baring them if they are capable. Totally.
/r/MensRights19/08/17 09:23 PM
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If she doesn't have the funds to take care of the kids, then she should not be allowed to have custody I will second that. So the mother loses custody of the kids and they go where?
/r/MensRights19/08/17 09:21 PM
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And what if they aren't willing? Scenario: man and woman have child out of high school, mother takes care of kid, has no appreciable job skills, father is primary wage earner, father leaves mother, does not want custody, mother can not support child on their own. What is the custody and support situation?
/r/MensRights19/08/17 08:04 PM
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Yea enjoy teaching college freshmen who have never touched programming that way. Some get it immediately some don't. Most do. But in terms of the outliers who needed the extra help, like I was saying, men and women often approach it differently in their brain and being aware of that makes for a better learning experience (and an easier time teaching).
/r/MensRights19/06/17 01:19 AM
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No, people readily get the concept of a variable given a good explanation. They do not understand the mutability of a variable, especially when you get into loops and stuff like that.
/r/MensRights18/06/17 04:30 PM
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It should be read as anyone can excel at STEM if they are themselves intelligent and curious and the education is good and suits their style of learning. Heck a good formal education isn't even needed. I taught college level computer programming courses and my degree is in art history. I am now an embedded engineer and help integrate satellite components with some of the biggest customers in the aerospace industry.
/r/MensRights18/06/17 01:22 AM
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Wow because I used one word, not even in the technical sense (I never said there is something called holistic engineering, I talked about taking a holistic approach to engineering), and you get this fucking triggered. There really isn't a point in debating you if you are just going to be clouded with anger the entire time.
/r/MensRights17/06/17 07:05 PM
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You are making a fundamental logical mistake in your argument, in that men being taught by women as small children has no bearing on then men being teachers to women at later stages in education. Both men and women would have female teachers at a young age, and then have male teachers at an older age. The sample groups have the same starting point and are functionally the same (for the sake of simple argument). But, post-high school education in STEM fields is dominated by men. Using your argume…
/r/MensRights17/06/17 05:02 PM
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computer science curriculum getting watered down Nothing is watered down, it is all about how the curriculum is presented. Your bias is showing. What you actually mean is that men are more capable of abstract thought. No, that isn't what I meant. I wasn't talking about abstract thought. I was talking about linear vs. non-linear thinking, which is entirely different. Abstract thought actually is something that I found to be pretty equal amongst both groups, in terms of people either can do it or …
/r/MensRights17/06/17 04:40 PM
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My view is that if you are in higher ed, in a STEM track, and you decide you need to cheat you are probably lazy. You chose to go that route and if your choice for how to "succeed" is to cheat then you are lazy. Man or woman.
/r/MensRights17/06/17 04:07 PM
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Yea, if you're an idiot that's how you'd phrase it. What is your explanation for why anyone cheats? Please explain. I'd love to hear your rationale.
/r/MensRights17/06/17 04:05 PM
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People in college aren't boys, they are grown ass men. Don't be lazy is the answer. If you cheat instead of study, or even attempt to study that is laziness. What do you think the answer is to cheating? I am seriously concerned that you are somehow defending academic cheating in some weird blame game of calling boys lazy...
/r/MensRights17/06/17 03:41 PM
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Uh, did I say that? No, I am saying that a lot of my male students were lazy and just cheated instead of spending lots of time in after hour labs or study groups like a lot of my female students did. I am not saying move on to something else, but I am not sure how to address the issue when it is something willfully lazy like cheating. There really isn't an academic approach to that, especially in higher education. If you are going to cheat, why be there, what does it gain you?
/r/MensRights17/06/17 03:32 PM
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They often cheated on assignments and then did poorly on tests. If you cheat that is laziness. If you do poorly on tests you perform badly. Pretty easy to see how that is a response.
/r/MensRights17/06/17 03:19 PM
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Sorry, phone typing. Hell sometimes it puts in periods and whole words I don't want. In response though, and this is anecdotal, my male students were often more prone to cheating.
/r/MensRights17/06/17 03:02 PM
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Hey, guy here. Also a former college professor teaching STEM. Women often actually do learn quite differently and when it comes to STEM subjects do require teachers to reevaluate their teaching strategy. This is actually because of differences in male/female ways of thinking. Women naturally tend to think more holisticly than men, and when I was teaching software engineering intro courses were especially tough for women because they often would be taking a holistic approach to the problems they …
/r/MensRights17/06/17 02:43 PM
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I don't work for the TSA, I am just an adult with a basic education in the grand scheme of things, yet clearly any semblance of basic logic is fully lost on you. Also I fly a fuck ton for work and it really isn't that bad. Also you hit the point right on the head and you can't seem to fucking grasp it at all, and it is fucking hilarious. Your examples are nonsense, you correlation has been proven not to be causation, and you fell for their scam; hook, line, and sinker. I never said that they are…
/r/MensRights18/12/16 11:57 PM
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You clearly are an idiot. Full stop, an idiot. Both examples you gave originated outside the US. There have been no attacks on airplanes that have originated in the US since 9/11 and the creation of the TSA. From what measure do you derive that the TSA is a failure? I am not saying it possibly isn't but that the argument against it literally has no logical reasoning behind it, because there is literally nothing to fault it with in regards to its effectiveness in actual attacks. Has there been a …
/r/MensRights18/12/16 11:41 PM
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No. I didn't. I credited the TSA for protecting domestic origin flights since 9/11 as part of a series of measures that have helped prevent additional attacks, including, you know, more competent law enforcement agencies. The point I am trying to make is that the same argument one can make about TSA not preventing any terrorist attacks, when there have actually been no attacks can logically be used to justify that the TSA has therefore prevented all terrorist attacks that the TSA is meant to pro…
/r/MensRights18/12/16 11:22 PM
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So success is the TSA finding a terrorist and stopping them...? Except no terrorist has originated in the US since 9/11 and tried to carry out an attack... So theoretically they have prevented all attacks. See where your logic breaks down? Success is someone challenging the TSA and getting caught... Which isn't the point, the point of TSA is to make the vector itself less attractive.
/r/MensRights18/12/16 11:17 PM
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Those attacks originated outside the US though... so TSA wasn't even involved.
/r/MensRights18/12/16 11:15 PM
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It's /r/mensrights... Having any chance of a rational, well thought out, unemotional argument is pretty much beyond any reasonable expectation... On the other hand this made it to /r/all, so hopefully other randoms not subscribed to this cuckfest see a reasonable response and makes them think, even if a little bit, about the stupid trope that TSA does nothing.
/r/MensRights18/12/16 11:05 PM
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Well that no terrorist attacks have taken place would kinda be proof... I mean what are you expecting, like terrorists to try to carry out attacks and TSA then catches them? Is that success? Isn't a better measure of success no actual attacks or even attempted attacks?
/r/MensRights18/12/16 11:02 PM
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Yea I am really confused on what "TSA doing something" would actually be. No terrorist attacks originating at US airports? Technically you can say that is because of TSA. Prior to TSA: 9/11, lots of hijackings. Post TSA: No more hijackings or terrorist attacks.
/r/MensRights18/12/16 11:01 PM
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Except they are 99% ineffective (I'd like to see a source on that number lol) and yet they have a 100% success rate since 9/11 in that there have been no terrorist attacks originating from US airports... So... I mean you could say that could just be chance, and that no terrorist in the last 15 years has tried to launch an attack from a US airport based purely on their own, or it could be that even a minimal defensive measure like the TSA makes that target vector far less likely?
/r/MensRights18/12/16 10:59 PM
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Or have they? Have we had a hijacker get on a plane in the US, or a terrorist get on a plane in the US and commit a crime? The mere act of having TSA very well could be a deterrent to this avenue of attack. What, in your opinion would TSA doing something be? Not stopping a terrorist attack, and then... ???
/r/MensRights18/12/16 10:57 PM
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Well apparently if our balls are cut off then we'd be immune to being kicked in the nuts... And no, not white knighting, just finding it funny that there is a bunch of pussy ass guys willing to be triggered by a playful tap in the arm by a girl as if it is somehow an insult to their manhood. Also you clearly don't know any fun girls if you can't tap them back in the arm just the same. It's called quit being a crybaby overly sensitive little millennial puke. You make the rest of us look like shel…
/r/MensRights29/09/16 12:59 AM
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If you think that gender issues are the root cause of that then I got a bridge to sell ya (or make you build and then sell to ya).
/r/MensRights28/09/16 02:21 PM
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Yea guys getting tapped in the arm and then complaining it is the same as guys beating their wife or girlfriend till the end up in the hospital is pretty funny.
/r/MensRights28/09/16 02:20 PM
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Lol I like that your response to violence would be violence. Maybe just leave the person instead? The point a lot of people seem to be missing in this thread isn't that it sucks men can't hit women without consequences (which is a pretty horrible position to take), but that no one should be hitting each other in the first place, even if you get hit (unless it is to defend yourself in the immediate).
/r/MensRights28/09/16 02:18 PM
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Last time I provided a source, which is literally the easiest thing in the world to google, I was downvoted, no point in arguing with you idiots. Go back to being triggered little bitches, I'll leave you to your circle jerk.
/r/MensRights09/09/16 02:45 AM
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Yea, it dilutes the point and negates the fact that the vast majority of sexual assaults are committed by us. No one is claiming women do not rape people, but targeting men with the message is a more effective strategy because it actually will probably do some good. Also I am not offended by messages like these because I know I am not going to go out and rape someone, but I also have known plenty of peers who have had no problem taking advantage of a girl without her consent. I can also say that…
/r/MensRights09/09/16 01:26 AM
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It is an overwhelmingly male problem though. The people in this sub are the ones who associate rape culture with male culture, not the other way around. Rape culture isn't something that implies gender (no matter how much this sub wants to be triggered).
/r/MensRights09/09/16 01:23 AM
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Yea, and to be honest, while Tumblr gets a lot of shit, discussions and posts on Tumblr are very much like pissing into the wind, the format is a lot less conducive to reinforcing biases. The problem is, and this is why posts like these and the more toxic posts that are screenshoting Tumblr are so annoying, is because Reddit is much more conducive to widespread discussion and exposure, and the only reason a lot of the crazy posts on Tumblr are ever seen by anyone are because of subreddits like m…
/r/MensRights29/04/16 04:12 PM
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You have to remember what is true about any internet community, and that is the loudest voices are often the ones that never leave. There are mra and feminists who are people who simply do not go into the real world, and the real world to them is one they've constructed through bias reinforcing discussions and communities.
/r/MensRights29/04/16 03:31 PM
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I'm a male and consider myself a feminist. The vast majority of feminists consider men's rights just as equal. It isn't a zero sum game like a lot of posters here think, and those that think it is, probably actually are worthy of being criticized and chastised for their views because if they think situations were women are treated equally is somehow removing rights from them, then that probably means that they inherently consider that they somehow should have more rights than women.
/r/MensRights29/04/16 02:36 PM
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Yes, "pushed".
/r/MensRights09/03/16 05:14 PM
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You dumb son, I'm done.
/r/MensRights28/12/15 12:11 AM
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No, the second definition you made up isn't even a legitimate definition. The two definitions are the system of government/law that favors male lineage, and then there is the cultural practice of descending from male lineage. How is circumcision not a practice that is mostly defined by male lineage (aka patriarchal lineage)? These arguments against the very use of words is just as insane as the most radical stupid feminist.
/r/MensRights27/12/15 11:23 PM
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That doesn't mean its not part of Abrahamic tradition, especially in their practice today, and last time I read any of the religious texts they are pretty much set in patriarchal tradition.
/r/MensRights27/12/15 11:02 PM
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Because circumcision is widely practiced and it comes from Abrahamic religious practices and beliefs? How is this not being understood by anyone here...
/r/MensRights27/12/15 10:53 PM
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Yes. I wish MRAs would adopt a similar position of reflexivity instead of this "whataboutism" that does nothing.
/r/MensRights27/12/15 09:29 PM
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You realize your first article is by an author from a neoconservative think tank right? A women writing something does not equal a feminist writing something, and that author, and the organization she works for is pretty much the antithesis of feminism. Also the second article is pretty much saying what I have been saying this entire time in this thread.
/r/MensRights27/12/15 09:18 PM
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Proof?
/r/MensRights27/12/15 08:02 PM
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It does, but in both those cases, the impact is roughly equal, if not worse for the women (well, if there is one in the case of incarcerated men). Because child raising is often, or explicitly present in both those situations, and women in 90% of the cases are the ones raising the children, class position is often equal, but the financial demands are greater. I am a single guy, and 2500$ doesn't go along ways where I live. If I had dependents and couldn't afford the time to work a full time job,…
/r/MensRights27/12/15 07:10 PM
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I always wondered if there were women hating gays like there are man hating lesbians. I guess I found one. Neat.
/r/MensRights27/12/15 05:28 PM
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I think that definition largely confuses class with gender. Class matters a lot, but even in the class system, a poor man has more opportunity than a poor woman in most cases. Gender division and class division are often mirrored. A poor woman is often "more" poor than a poor man, especially in the US (women require more fundamental day to day things solely based on their gender, like more regular/constant health care, and they are more often left as child rearers). One of the biggest things tha…
/r/MensRights27/12/15 05:25 PM
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Words have multiple meanings. The meaning often used in feminist theory doesn't explicitly mean a system of government, more that there is a clear succession of culture and power descended through male lineages, as in from the father to the son. In the context of circumcision, this is very accurate, as often it is the father who wishes his son to look like him, or because they follow Abrahamic religious practices, which, are, if you read the texts explicitly patriarchal in the way you use the wo…
/r/MensRights27/12/15 04:57 PM
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Shut up you little beta bitch.
/r/MensRights27/12/15 09:06 AM
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The head of the penis and the clitoris derive from the same structure during development in the womb. It is a dense cluster of nerve endings that have evolved to induce extremely pleasurable feelings when stimulated. Foreskin protects these nerve endings. When the foreskin is removed those nerve endings tend to become desensitized and you lose feeling from them (they become numb). As such sexual pleasure responses are stronger when there is foreskin. This is the same in both female and male circ…
/r/MensRights26/12/15 09:41 PM
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Yup, I guess its like /r/flatearthsociety huh?
/r/MensRights26/12/15 08:51 PM
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Where did the woman's opinion form on what a "good" penis looks like? In this specific case, yes a woman was the driver, but (and this is NOT removing responsibility from the woman, she was an asshole) her motivation was descendent from a norm driven by the patriarchal tradition of circumcision. Go to a culture where there is no circumcision and a woman might say a circumcised penis is ugly. Who is at fault there, is it patriarchal traditions or is it the woman? Again, that would be clearly the …
/r/MensRights26/12/15 08:50 PM
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Except women are not the primary driver of this tradition. At all.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 08:40 PM
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k.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 08:38 PM
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How do you not understand the connection of current social norms to traditions? That is where I am having the problem understanding your argument. Traditions create social norms and customs. If the tradition is patriarchal then the norms that are derived from it are as well.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 08:33 PM
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I never was defining broad problems. I've literally only been talking about circumcision this entire time. There the term patriarchy is highly applicable. What is really annoying is the amount of offense men, especially in this sub, take when the term is used in any context, like it is a slight against them. That is what you are doing. You've taken this specific use, where it is very applicable, and you've tried to discredit its entire use, even when it is 100% totally applicable.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 08:25 PM
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No, not in the sense that it is hereditary or anything like that. Circumcision though is very hereditary, a lot of it descends from "my son will not look different than me". That is pretty much the definition of patriarchy.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 08:12 PM
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Because the cultural "norm" was established as part of religious practice or religious tradition, which in the case of Abrahamic religions is inherently patriarchal. There is pretty much only one degree of separation between circumcision and patriarchal tradition.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 07:59 PM
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I just have a problem with a lot of people in this sub who basically deny that patriarchy exists, like it's somehow attacking men, like men inherently have not had it easier. I fucking love my male privilege to be honest. Is it fair? Fuck no. Do I abuse it? I try not to. Do I pretend I don't have all the breaks as a white, heterosexual, upper middle class, male? No. If I ruin my life it is pretty much 100% my fault. The game of life is rigged in my favor.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 07:39 PM
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Sucks that guy didn't have enough self confidence to get over it and instead had surgery. Wish women had as much self-confidence to tell guys to fuck off when they complain about small breasts or "roast beef" labias. People are generally dicks. Circumcision does derives from patriarchal tradition though, as Abrahamic religions are explicitly patriarchal and that is where the practice comes from. Are stereotypes perpetrated by both sexes? Of course, no one is denying that, but anyone trying to cl…
/r/MensRights26/12/15 07:36 PM
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I really do not think you are understanding the argument at all.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 06:49 PM
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What?
/r/MensRights26/12/15 06:48 PM
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A small sample of people do not prove the existance of patriarchy So what does this statement mean?
/r/MensRights26/12/15 06:32 PM
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Where am I arguing that? You seem to be taking a specific example and than wildly extrapolating to not even tangentially related arguments. Are you crazy?
/r/MensRights26/12/15 06:19 PM
2

So by that moral argument, are you also a vegetarian?
/r/MensRights26/12/15 06:18 PM
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No, you are moving the goal posts... You literally just picked them up and walked out of the stadium with them with that argument.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 06:17 PM
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Self-sufficiency is not a requirement to be an organism and entirely irrelevant. No, it isn't, but it is to be a human organism.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 05:53 PM
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I don't think you understand the subjective nature of morality...
/r/MensRights26/12/15 05:52 PM
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So you are flat out denying that patriarchy is a real thing? Ok. Probably not worth arguing with you if your stance is that far out.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 05:49 PM
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Probably because she had only ever been with guys that were circumcised. Circumcision is a patriarchal tradition born out of Abrahamic religious traditions, which are inherently patriarchal. Just because some women do want it, doesn't mean it is not a problem with patriarchy. Patriarchy is not some catch all boogeyman phrase used to disparage men, it is just a word that talks about tradition. That tradition can be bad for men too, when it comes from a place of ignorance.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 05:38 PM
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It actually holds a lot of evidence, because the original statement basically was denying that patriarchy is even a thing in this context, when it clearly is. And yes, I know mothers that have done it too, and a lot of times their motivations are religious tradition, which, it is hard to argue are not patriarchal institutions.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 05:36 PM
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Nothing makes a zygote distinctly human. There is no ability, beyond looking at its chromosomal structure to tell if its a human at that point. Nor is the fertilized egg viable outside of the womb. Most common sense abortion laws are written from the idea of viability. Is the life viable outside of the mother? If yes, then it is too late to have an abortion. If no, then the mother is basically the only life that exists, the thing inside her body has no ability on its own to be a self sufficient …
/r/MensRights26/12/15 05:33 PM
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Depends on when your concept of a human life begins. There is many scientific and moral camps. If you'd like to debate them I'd be happy to, but it kinda seems like you take a hard line religious position, so debating might just waste both of our time.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 05:15 PM
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Uhh, so uncut guy born in the US here and a lot of my guy friends are uncut as well, and it was our mothers that made the decision and the argument to not have us circumcised. It is a patriarchal thing. I asked my dad why he argued for it, and he said "so you don't look different". This was the same sort of answer my friend's fathers gave too. My cousin recently had a son, and ended up circumcising him, but only after strong pressure from the father, and she still says that she would not have do…
/r/MensRights26/12/15 05:05 PM
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That implies a totally subjective moral argument that many do not subscribe to.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 04:58 PM
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So would a lot of high school girls about a hot guy teacher. Except we, as guys, for thousands of years have removed the idea sexual agency from girls and women. I am not saying that teachers should have sex with children in their charge, that is clearly wrong, but there is a clear double standard that people in this sub are applying that is not for the equality of men with women (which is already a fairly limited argument to begin with). Its that we've created, both men and women, in western pu…
/r/MensRights22/12/15 03:58 PM
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Yup, statistics are so feminist. Your bias is clear: any thing where a man is possibly more at fault doesn't exist. I even stated that women are more responsible for infanticide, but men are more responsible for killing entire families. It isn't a competition. These are just the raw facts. Trying to pretend men do not do this is tantamount to saying it isn't an issue. If you want to address issues with men's rights then you need to address the real issues that men actually do contribute to, inst…
/r/MensRights19/08/15 08:30 PM
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You weren't wrong. The source the other guy is using is deaths while in the care of any parent from any means, including, but not limited to, homicide. Deaths from any other maltreatment, for example failing to get proper medical attention, malnutrition, or any other cause of death are also included. The reason women appear more frequently involved is because in single child house holds it is more often than not the mother who is the sole and primary care giver, and as such are disproportionatel…
/r/MensRights19/08/15 07:44 PM
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Yea you do. I'm not paying for you to do it. You should do it out of the goodness of your cause. I, as a rich white male, are saying you are wrong, at the expense of my race and gender. That should be enough motivation for you to do whatever it takes. Also it's 5am and I'm on my phone and I really don't give that many fucks because again, being able to recognize my privilege means I don't have to actually worry about this shit because it's not real. Enjoy being angry over nothing, loser.
/r/MensRights19/08/15 11:48 AM
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What about over age 5?
/r/MensRights19/08/15 11:37 AM
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Holy shit, you need to read better buddy. This is literally all situations where a child has died from neglect or abuse. Yes, women are more responsible, often because they end up being single mothers and bad shit happens. If we are talking about what we are you know actually talking about in this thread which is familicide and family annihilation, the intentional killing of your children and family, then men are by and away more responsible.
/r/MensRights19/08/15 11:28 AM
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Neat. Too bad wasn't what we are talking about. Maltreatment is not the same as someone who commits familicide or family annihilation.
/r/MensRights19/08/15 11:11 AM
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Yea, except that fathers far more often kill their children than mothers do... The reason these cases where the mother does end up killing her children are big news is because they usually involve some seriously warped psychosis that is more entertaining than just the more common reasons of personal failure that are often the cause of a father taking his entire families life. edit Yay downvoted! Of course no one wants to look up the stats. Mothers more often kill infants, fathers more often kill…
/r/MensRights19/08/15 10:31 AM
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If you read my post I said I am not that attractive. I'm 5'8 and weigh 180lbs, and I am bald. I am not in great shape, but I am not totally out of shape either (I try to maintain a number of physical activities). I dress fairly nice, and I am actually able to have a conversation with people, even if they disagree with me, and I am genuinely a nice person. All of the things that make me attractive are not physical, trust me. Furthermore, I wouldn't even say I have great luck with women. The last …
/r/MensRights13/08/15 07:59 PM
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You know, when I see the really really radical posts on this sub I sometimes wonder if they are the male versions of the man hating lesbian, as in they are gay, but being a man, and fairly stupid ones at that they are not also rabidly anti-women, but also extremely homophobic, and as such, self-hating as well and this anger can only come out in a nonsensical blasting of an entire gender, just like the crazy anti-men lesbians. In the end, this dude needs some love it sounds like, and if he isn't …
/r/MensRights13/08/15 07:19 PM
0

Please tell me you are a libertarian or ancap... EDIT Not to mention women don't have to do anything in the relationship/dating game- men have to do ALL of the work, initiating, approaching, everything! Holy crap, this is where I know you are a total loser now. No, that is insane. Every single significant relationship I have been in has been initiated by the girl. The girl chasing me. In fact for a number of years I was totally deaf dumb and blind to this and missed out on a few good things I am…
/r/MensRights13/08/15 06:22 PM
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You got classy tastes. Do you just throw shit against the wall and see what sticks when it comes to who you choose to date or what? I've never had first date where the girl expected me to pay for everything, and when I insist its always very much a polite back and forth. Even on third or fourth dates going dutch is not unexpected. Are you dating teenagers (or one yourself still)?
/r/MensRights13/08/15 06:19 PM
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Um. Wow. Dating sucks in a lot of ways, but I think you might need to see a doctor about possible anxiety issues dude, because that is some copy pasta level crazy.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 05:19 PM
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No, but there is an idea that everyone else does it, so if you are seen by another guy to not be cut they'll make fun of you. It's a really dumb reason. I've never had anyone make fun of me for not being cut, male or female. If I have a son there is no way I'd let him be circumcised.
/r/MensRights28/07/15 07:41 AM
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You must live in a fucked up part of the country, up here people do not think like that.
/r/MensRights28/07/15 03:28 AM
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But virtually nobody recognizes male circumcision as genital mutilation. Plenty of mothers do. I thank my mom every day (in my head obviously lol) for choosing to not have me circumcised. It is definitely a cult of the father thing, "my son needs to look like me". Pretty much every parent I know that is against circumcision is the mother, and if the father is against it usually the mother is too, or indifferent. I swear it is a spite thing with the fathers that do want it for their sons (if it i…
/r/MensRights27/07/15 10:35 PM
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You could move to Montana... Rape is pretty cool there I heard. Thirty days in jail for raping a 14 year old student who then kills herself.
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