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5

Lesbiputian.
/r/MensRights08/05/19 10:35 PM
1

"A man who does a different job than I, a woman, do gets paid more than me! This must be prejudice!"
/r/PussyPassDenied01/01/19 04:22 PM
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/r/badwomensanatomy
/r/MensRights10/11/18 03:21 PM
6

The unintended consequence will be that liars will be less likely to come clean.
/r/PussyPassDenied31/05/18 01:40 AM
7

Could it be the "always believe women's allegations of sexual assault" thing making false claims a more effective way to get what you want? Could it be that?
/r/MensRights25/05/18 10:12 AM
3

Somebody needs to /r/menkampf this thing.
/r/MensRights02/05/18 03:08 PM
2

The uniforms are cheaper than regular clothes.
/r/MensRights03/04/18 10:46 PM
7

Those of a higher economic class have more freedom to express themselves through what they wear. Children in school should be on as even a playing field as possible. Express yourself with fashion after school.
/r/MensRights03/04/18 06:15 PM
10

Uniforms are actually the solution here. Everyone wears the same thing, period. An extra upshot is that it takes economic class out of the equation. No more being embarrassed because you have to wear Goodwill clothes instead of the hottest new fashions. And now everyone gets judged more on character than appearance. Also, we're all sexual objects, at the same time as being lots of other things.
/r/MensRights03/04/18 06:04 PM
3

Yup, stick a fork in it, it's done.
/r/MGTOW01/04/18 11:00 AM
2

Well, I don't neeed the seat up to pee.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/03/18 01:42 PM
5

Looks like I'm going to have to go my own way from MTGOW.
/r/MGTOW07/03/18 08:01 PM
18

I wasn't real hot on the false dichotomy of "moving away from feminism to a more conservative point of view" bullshit, either. Men's rights are not only valued by conservatives.
/r/MensRights24/12/17 03:04 AM
1

Couple of things here. One, this means that during the marriage, the woman's standard of living is being raised by the man's giving up his own time, efforts, and finances to the woman's benefit. Second, I'm curious to how "standard of living" is calculated. Is it a questionnaire type of thing, "How do you assess your standard of living based on what you think it is?" If so, I can see where men might feel they have a better standard of living after a divorce and have less money than they did duri…
/r/MGTOW03/12/17 01:44 PM
1

(As in, a female boss alone with a male employee) There would need to be another female present in this case, I'm sure.
/r/MensRights15/11/17 09:29 PM
2

I didn't say I did, I said some people do, and they do, and I bet they wouldn't consider a woman coercing a man into sex without a condom as any kind of sexual assault. Switch the genders around, though, and imagine a situation where a man coerces a woman to have sex without a condom. Doesn't matter whether the man is coercing or being coerced, it's still his fault.
/r/MensRights31/10/17 04:21 PM
2

Coercing a person into a sexual behavior they are not initially in agreement to, some people call that rape, you know.
/r/MensRights31/10/17 03:23 PM
37

How dare you use a common area in a home you pay rent for! HOW DARE YOU!
/r/PussyPassDenied14/08/17 02:39 PM
4

They're not wrong. What's wrong is that it takes being forced to realize that women can be sex offenders to realize that many such people are in need of treatment, along with punishment. Oh but just for women.
/r/MensRights12/07/17 12:48 AM
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Women: here's a whole bunch of information and advice on how to protect yourself from sexual assault. Men: sometimes you get raped, nothing anyone can do about that. Seek help byeeeee!
/r/MensRights22/06/17 05:13 AM
1

Based on the information we know, which would be more accurate - article/court or your bet?
/r/MensRights07/03/17 04:33 PM
6

Also, based on the fact that the writer had quotes from this guy and there was no evidence of him denying the claim, im pretty sure it happened. You seemed "pretty sure" about it not too long ago.
/r/MensRights06/03/17 08:01 PM
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You'd damn well better get your head around the difference between an allegation and a fact, then.
/r/MensRights06/03/17 07:39 PM
6

He's not innocent based on what? Do you know something more than her allegation stated in the article?
/r/MensRights06/03/17 07:36 PM
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I allege that you raped me while I was sleeping.
/r/MensRights06/03/17 05:36 PM
12

She pled guilty to her crime. She alleges that her husband "had unwanted sex with her while she was sleeping." I'm really not sure how the poisoning victim deserves any of the blame. Even if her allegations about unwanted sex are true, we're talking about two different crimes. A crime is not justified just because it was committed in response to a previous crime. Even if those allegations are true, she has no right to sentence him to surreptitious poisoning.
/r/MensRights06/03/17 05:35 PM
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Maybe they would have concocted a different excuse, but the outcome would be the same.
/r/MensRights03/06/16 05:28 PM
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Honestly, this is less about double standards between men and women, and more about ultra-orthodox Judaism.
/r/MensRights02/06/16 10:29 PM
5

Or when they are, their sentences are shorter. Maybe the drug sentences are more equal because of gender-neutral sentencing legislation?
/r/MensRights28/04/16 11:25 AM
5

However the couple decided not to pursue it ... So ... pussypass?
/r/PussyPassDenied24/03/16 07:28 PM
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Well shit.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 03:44 AM
2

I seem to recall that 2% failure rate including improper use, and that when you eliminate improper use failures, condoms are something like 99.8% effective. But I don't have a source, it's just what I recall knowing from the distant past.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 02:31 AM
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If there's a cut off point for financial responsibility, there would arguably need to be a cut off point for abortion. That seems like a wedge that pro-lifers would like to exploit.
/r/MensRights12/03/16 02:07 PM
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Almost all condom failures are the result of improper use. Education is an important contraceptive.
/r/MensRights12/03/16 02:04 PM
1

Separate but equal.
/r/MensRights20/02/16 06:26 AM
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Those would be "sexual offenses." Which carries exactly the same connotation. /s
/r/MensRights04/02/16 02:50 AM
1

The actual definition of rape is irrelevant. What matters is the legal definition of rape, in the jurisdiction where the incident occurred. In Maryland, for example, "rape" is defined as "... engaging in vaginal intercourse with another by force or threat of force and without their consent." There is a separate statute for "sexual offense," and "[t]he difference between rape and “sexual offense” is that ... sexual offense involves a “sexual act”, not necessarily vaginal intercourse." Legally spe…
/r/MensRights03/02/16 02:30 PM
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Ding
/r/MensRights16/01/16 06:49 AM
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Misleading title. She claimed that "her husband had sexually and verbally abused her for years," and that the shot was fired accidentally as he was charging towards her - but the forensic evidence doesn't support that series of events. Source: TFA
/r/MensRights16/01/16 12:19 AM
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The streets are not really dangerous for men, and they are even less dangerous for women. Human beings (men and women alike) are notoriously bad at estimating risk, and I'd guess that's worse now that we have world-girdling instant information in our pockets.
/r/MensRights15/01/16 10:51 PM
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If you want to talk about percentages: --- 1992 2009 Rapes, non-baseless (reported) 696 107 Rapes, non-baseless rate (reported) 0.095% 0.016% False rape reports 53 51 False rape reports rate 0.0073% 0.0083% Population 731,000 637,000 The only rate in that table that comes anywhere near being significant is the rate of rape in Baltimore in 1992, which is approaching one-tenth of one percent. Even that is not a real concern. I stand by my earlier statement that rape and false rape accusation is no…
/r/MensRights31/12/15 11:16 PM
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Percentages are dangerous, especially when you're talking about percentage change without being very clear about the base numbers. The top chart talks about reported cases in real numbers over time. The bottom chart only talks about percentages, and doesn't make a very direct connection to the real numbers in the chart above. But let's see what we can tease out. 2009: 158 cases reported, 31.9% baseless. That's roughly 51 cases. 1992: 749 cases reported, 7% baseless. That's roughly 53 cases. Sinc…
/r/MensRights31/12/15 06:40 PM
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I wonder if it has to do with the expectation that "men are criminal." News is news because it's unusual, right? If "men are criminal," then it's not news (as much) when a man is charged or convicted. It's way more titillating, especially considering the crowd on reddit-at-large, when it's PRETTY GIRL DOES CRIME. Those stories, of which this is one, get more attention, and therefore more commentary. I'll make a point of trying to notice incidents of crimes committed by men which have a mental he…
/r/PussyPassDenied24/12/15 09:52 PM
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Preferably before, which would more likely to occur for all people if mental illness wasn't as stigmatized as it is. I'll point out that that doesn't excuse anything in this or any other individual case. But destigmatizing mental illness will increase the number of people who get treatment before they rise to being a criminal offender, and reduce the number of people who criminally offend due to the influence of mental illness. That's good for everyone.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/12/15 05:09 PM
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Go fuck yourself.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/12/15 05:01 PM
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I am a person, not people, and this is the story that crossed my browser window this morning. A huge proportion of people in US jails, state prisons, and federal prisons report mental illness. It's reasonable to conclude that there are unreported cases, too. People who have medical conditions should receive treatment for those conditions, full stop. I don't qualify that with "women, non-violent, white, upper-class" or anything else. When you refer to people as "scum," you're already well into re…
/r/PussyPassDenied24/12/15 05:00 PM
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I know someone with BPD, his ex-wife grew up with my wife. I know exactly what you mean when you say "dangerous," it's not a fucking joke. And I didn't mean to set up "permanent vs rehabilitative" as such a false dichotomy. Incarceration should attempt to be rehabilitative, with the understanding that that's a very difficult goal to reach in some cases. You can't know how successful a given attempt at rehabilitation is until after the person is released back into society, with the freedoms and r…
/r/PussyPassDenied24/12/15 04:53 PM
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Go fuck yourself.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/12/15 04:28 PM
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That's fair - removing a "bad actor" from society does protect society from the bad actions that person might make were they not incarcerated, for the period of incarceration. However, when the "bad actor" is released, what we as a society want is for them to not be a bad actor anymore. In a case where the bad action which landed them in prison in the first place is at least partially influenced by a person's illness, and when that illness is not adequately treated during the period of incarcera…
/r/PussyPassDenied24/12/15 04:03 PM
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For the sake of clarity: I'm completely in favor of human beings receiving treatment for medical conditions, and understand that some medical conditions can (but not always) play a part (sometimes large, sometimes small) in affecting a person's behavior such that they cross the line into criminal offense.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/12/15 03:54 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/c7NJRa2.gif
/r/PussyPassDenied24/12/15 03:19 PM
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(Note that this is most certainly not pointed at /u/Gary_Wayne.) That was to contrast the usual "moar prison" vibe. Doesn't excuse the behavior, which is certainly criminal, and carries a consequence in line with that fact. But it's more complicated than "she's a bad person." Here's a weird analogy. If someone is incontinent, and gets arrested for public urination, something they've just done their entire lives because nobody suggested they do anything else, part of the consequences of that "cri…
/r/PussyPassDenied24/12/15 03:18 PM
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After searching her property, they found a journal where she documented her increasingly alarming thoughts and fantasies, including the names and offences of rapists and sexual offenders from around Scotland. Methinks there might be some mental illness going on here.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/12/15 02:17 PM
1

If would need to be looked up for Texas, but I know that around here school attendance is compulsory until age 16.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 12:09 PM
1

What if I'm really trying not to rape, and I'm doing a great job, not raping, not raping ... And then suddenly I find out that I have six weeks to live? Does that mean that now I have to constantly rape in order to fill my quota? What if I die before I finish all my raping? Does my son then have to take the responsibility, and rape extra to make up for me? What if I only have a daughter, can she do my missing rapes, with a prosthetic, perhaps? What if I have no children (that I know of!)? Can I …
/r/MensRights10/12/15 12:15 PM
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Don't sex the dog.
/r/MensRights05/12/15 12:35 AM
5

Nobody gets anywhere by digging in heels and making out someone as "the other" when disagreements arise. I've found myself typing things out and then backspacing a lot of it in order to rewrite it to be gender neutral, or to remove whatever bias I've mistakenly inserted. It's a small thing, but I always feel like I'm doing something, making sure the things I say and the positions I hold are more free of bias. Wear the downvotes with some pride. You contributed to conversation. People, including …
/r/MensRights22/11/15 06:51 PM
3

Decisions that need to be made are made collectively where 1 person is 1 vote. Every person has their say. This is bad. This is tyranny of the majority. Look back through history; the majority is quite often wrong.
/r/MensRights22/11/15 04:22 PM
1

I think there are many biases in American culture that need to be brought into balance. Some of those biases are gender-based, some are political, some are socio-economic.
/r/MensRights22/11/15 04:20 PM
5

The word you're looking for is "entitlement."
/r/MensRights22/11/15 04:13 PM
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I agree that we don't know everything about the situation based on a news article. We're on the same page there. The problem is that the first place you went is the first place that is oh so often gone to: "make sure the man is not bad." Men are generally seen as at fault, bad, threatening, and dangerous until proven otherwise, and even then, keep an eye on those men, because they might commit some heinous act at any moment. Furthermore, your example does seek to excuse the woman for her bad beh…
/r/MensRights22/11/15 03:41 PM
12

You're supposing that the father might have done something bad in order to excuse the mother, who did do something bad.
/r/MensRights22/11/15 03:20 PM
9

How did I miss that one?
/r/MensRights17/09/15 05:59 PM
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"Sexual relationship" ... "Romping" These seem like not the right words to use when the woman has to register as a sex offender.
/r/MensRights17/09/15 02:55 PM
1

"The kind of sex that men tend to enjoy is bad and wrong. The kind of sex that women tend to enjoy is right and good."
/r/MensRights13/09/15 03:37 PM
2

There is literally zero cross between pua and mgtow.
/r/MensRights28/07/15 03:17 PM
1

When my son (I'm the father) was about six, I took him to the mens' room at the zoo. He stepped up to a urinal. Shortly after, an elderly man stepped up to the urinal next to him, standing way too far back, with his pants dropped way too low. Basically exposing himself. And then he was trying to get a look at my six year old's penis. I put myself right in between them, and that's as far as that went. I'm a different man now, and today I would have been much more forward. Which brings me to this …
/r/MensRights28/07/15 02:57 PM
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Zimmerman then starts to talk about #GiveYourMoneytoWomen, which demanded that men give money to women for free. Because that doesn't already happen ... ?
/r/MensRights23/07/15 07:14 PM
2

Court ordered child support, money which is to be provided by a non-custodial parent to support their child (in the custody of the other parent) ... just gets handed over to the custodial parent, with no oversight. There should be an agreed-upon list of things which that money can be spent on, such as school supplies, children's clothing, medical care, food, toys, some part of the expense of running the household. And the child support payments should go into a kind of escrow account, which can …
/r/MensRights16/07/15 01:38 PM
0

Absolutely, but the original analogy was one where the intoxicated passenger was not also the bartender.
/r/MensRights12/07/15 06:23 PM
1

http://criminal.lawyers.com/criminal-law-basics/reporting-crimes-witnessing-ignoring-falsely-reporting-and-lying.html You are probably not obligated to report a crime, certainly not driving under the influence. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1976377/posts If police are not legally obligated to prevent crime, neither are you. (All above in the US.)
/r/MensRights12/07/15 07:53 AM
1

Being an authority figure over them while they are under 18 may still make it statutory, even where the age of consent is lower.
/r/MensRights04/07/15 02:41 PM
1

Your Girl Scouts example is not the best. Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are two very different organizations.
/r/MensRights19/06/15 01:10 PM
1

I was there, man. I was there.
/r/MensRights12/06/15 11:48 PM
2

Before that was the HD-DVD key debacle, which played out almost exactly the way this Reddit thing is going today.
/r/MensRights12/06/15 05:03 PM
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If what was going on a month ago was "intense abuse," I can't imagine what they'd call today. Perhaps the admins should ban reddit because it's harassing Ellen Pao.
/r/MensRights11/06/15 01:08 PM
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If they were both minors, and he can be charged with statutory, then so could she.
/r/MensRights07/05/15 06:56 PM
6

She feels very raped by my comment.
/r/MensRights06/05/15 09:20 PM
8

tl:dr; If someone does something mean to anyone else, I'm being raped
/r/MensRights06/05/15 07:46 PM
4

No true Scots(wo)man
/r/MensRights06/05/15 02:02 PM
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tl:dr; I am not responsible for my actions, because patriarchy
/r/MensRights06/05/15 01:58 PM
4

"I was trying to say that we would have a healthier and less dangerous campus if people drank less and took their sexual relations more seriously," Eastman clarified in an interview with the Tampa Bay Times. It's also true that if people drank less and took their sexual relations less seriously, they'd have a healthier and less dangerous campus. Keeping sexuality in an ivory tower tends to "rapify" it.
/r/MensRights01/05/15 03:53 PM
10

So much for "heteronormative."
/r/MensRights28/04/15 08:21 PM
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Allow me to pull this quote out: Would you object if I said 'whites are bad because they oppress blacks,' or 'Anglos are bad because they oppress Latinos,' or 'rich people are bad because they oppress the poor'? You're goddamned right I would.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 07:25 PM
5

The problem is the traditionalist chivalry, and campaigns like this (while they may be effective in reaching the goals they want to reach) have an unintended consequence of making many people feel good about the fact that they are giving special treatment to one gender over another. It's also a repeat of "women are inherently unable to 'save' themselves without your help." In this case, whatever gender you are, this campaign is targeted at the first world: "You are better than them." "Oh, but th…
/r/MensRights21/03/15 02:22 PM
5

That's a big "if." I'm not buying it. Even in modern American culture, that's an extraordinary story, for which at least some evidence is required.
/r/MensRights09/03/15 11:26 AM
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Mmm, I'm gonna cool my jets on this one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Violence_against_men Also, "someone" has nominated the article for deletion. That means "All right, we'll talk about it then." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Guide_to_deletion#Nomination Three rounds of discussion, and the most recent round is quite reasonable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Violence_against_men_(3rd_nomination)
/r/MensRights28/02/15 02:17 PM
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/r/pussypass
/r/MensRights16/02/15 06:16 PM
12

Being topless isn't illegal unless it's salacious, which this most certainly is.
/r/MensRights16/02/15 05:52 PM
2

Just hate them as some other aspect of your person.
/r/MensRights26/01/15 02:24 PM
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Sex is shameful. Only sex that men want is shameful. Sex that women want is not shameful, it's empowering. In the case that a man and woman are both engaged in a sexual act, which both the man and woman want, the woman is empowered because she wants it, and oppressed by the man who also wants it. How hard is that to understand, shitlord?
/r/MensRights20/01/15 05:17 PM
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Sue you ... for what exactly? Suits are civil, not criminal, and with penalties in money. Honestly, there's still a pussy pass going on here, and it's from you, for not calling the cops (or ordering that someone else do it) the very moment she hit you. You're having a party Uninvited and unwanted drunk person arrives, with more than two other uninvited drunk people Said person clearly seeks to attack one of your guests You intervene Person hits you Person screams, "YOU CAN'T FIGHT [ME]!" That si…
/r/PussyPassDenied01/01/15 04:03 PM
9

How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real?
/r/MensRights30/12/14 06:41 PM
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As soon as I read: It isn’t just unnecessary, but it’s outright dangerous to demand that survivors must tell media who their attackers are to make their stories worth hearing. I thought, "That's right, you shouldn't be telling the media who your attacker was. You should be telling the police. And you shouldn't be telling the media who the victim was, either, you should be telling the police. By bringing assault stories to the media, all you're doing is taking alleged criminal activity - which sh…
/r/MensRights08/12/14 03:38 PM
3

The conditions of release are those pending a retrial.
/r/MensRights24/11/14 06:25 AM
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So ... straight women want "strong vulnerability"? Makes perfect sense.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 02:30 PM
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Anecdote: I was at the zoo with my family, we'd stopped in a picnic area to have the lunch we brought along. A ways away, between the table and a path, I saw a small child. The child was darting back and forth, looking around, yelling "Mommy? Mommy!" I walked in that direction, and when I got close enough, I got down on one knee. "Little girl?" She looked at me. "Are you lost?" Next thing I know, she's running into my arms crying. I gave her a big hug and told her everything was going to be okay…
/r/MensRights01/07/13 02:09 AM
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They're not talking about rape, they're talking about an ever-increasingly amorphous "harassment."
/r/MensRights16/05/13 06:08 PM
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My friend's mother was once talking to him about women in modern western society. "I just don't understand women who try to be perfect mothers and have big careers. You can't have everything!"
/r/MensRights06/04/13 04:48 AM
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You idiots also realize that prostate cancer is usually not treated, because it tends not to spread, and the men who get it are so old that they're likely to die of some other completely unrelated thing, right? Whereas breast cancer spreads much more aggressively and so requires more aggressive treatment to prevent death. Just because they're both forms of cancer doesn't make them the same. It's like saying that the Mona Lisa and my four year old's finger paint should get the same attention, bec…
/r/MensRights11/03/13 01:50 PM
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Well, breast cancer tends to spread, and occurs in young women. Prostate cancer tends not to spread, and occurs mainly in old men. I wouldn't equate the two.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 01:40 AM
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Shouldn't matter whether he consented or not, he shouldn't have to pay child support. "But OMG, Nougat, how can you be in favor of deadbeat dads?? If he consented, he should be responsible!" She had the option to relieve herself of responsibility for a child, also regardless of her consent to sex: abortion. An option which, I might add, she was free to exercise over the objections of the father. Offering that kind of unassailable escape clause to women but not to men is blatant gender discrimina…
/r/MensRights03/03/13 09:15 PM
1

The "best interests of the child" is "not having a despicable parent." How about that?
/r/MensRights16/02/13 04:03 PM
0

Nope, even then you're not necessarily safe. There was a story recently about a lesbian couple splitting up and the state coming after the sperm donor for their child's child support. All legal, Kansas.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 11:01 PM
13

Sperm donors are occasionally put on the hook for child support.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 07:22 PM
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Woman is upset. Must be someone else's fault.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 03:55 PM
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Still, the new popular sentiment is the insinuation that she was sexually assaulted at some point, presumably by being forced or coerced into oral sex on a man. There's still a man at fault for this out there, somewhere.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 02:25 PM
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Many feminists deconstruct both gender roles and are against the other things you mentioned. This is true, but feminists also go on to build up acceptance for any role a woman wants to choose. In the wake of all this, the traditional male gender role is no longer acceptable for men, and there's no other roles which are acceptable for men. Many men are left thinking, "What just happened? What am I supposed to do?" Top that off with the current conventional wisdom that men are violent pedophiles a…
/r/MensRights13/12/12 07:54 PM
12

Have you ever been to ... a city? Where everybody uses public transportation?
/r/MensRights30/11/12 05:11 AM
1

Ay, there's the rub. Let's say Man and Woman have sex, Woman becomes pregnant. Woman has the choice whether to bear the child, or to abort the pregnancy. Man has no say in this choice whatsoever. If Man wants to keep and raise the child himself, and Woman wants to terminate, too bad for Man. If Man wants to terminate, and Woman wants to keep and raise the child herself, again, too bad for Man. Most specifically, in this latter case, Man cannot choose to be relieved of responsibility for a child,…
/r/MensRights22/10/12 01:48 PM
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And if a woman doesn't insist on contraceptives, she has the option to abort after conception. I don't have that option, but I can still be forced to pay child support. She can choose to avoid being forced to support a child after conception. I cannot. That's where the problem is. What you're saying is analogous to saying women should not be allowed to choose abortion if they don't want to be a parent.
/r/MensRights29/09/12 09:52 PM
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After conception, shithead.
/r/MensRights29/09/12 09:14 PM
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Women have 100% control over whether they want to parent a child or not, even after conception. Men have 0% control. If I impregnate a woman, and I want to be a parent, and she doesn't -- too bad for me. What if I didn't want a child and she did? Would I be able to compel her to have an abortion? Or course not. And neither should I. However, if that's the case, then you shouldn't be able to compel men to pay child support, so long as they bow out within some time frame.
/r/MensRights29/09/12 03:34 PM
1

That's a little bit different. The girl on stage was participating of her own free will. The male character in the gif (I know, it's an actor playing a role) was not participating, but just minding his own business.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 11:18 PM
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