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I think this is missing the point of humor as it pertains to seduction. Making a girl laugh is a marker of intellect - this serves as an honest signal of wit. Jokes/humor often involve stories that can communicate value without boasting or bragging, the punchline gives it an emotional hook. Laughter is often how a woman expresses sexual tension. This is slightly different than standup comedy or sitcom laughter. This usually manifests as giggling with a hand covering the mouth, and averting gaze …
/r/seduction01/10/24 10:19 AM
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I think you've mischaracterized the problem. Looking good, is not fuckboy. There isn't a specific look or aesthetic that is fuckboy - despite what the memes will say about ripped/ribbed above the knee jeans. You might be accused of being fuckboy because you act so distant/aloof that you're not interested AT ALL. Maybe you're 'fuckboy' because you lack so much interest that only someone whose plate is full would act as distant as you. You have good looks, but your ability to engage her emotions i…
/r/seduction30/09/24 11:21 PM
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Sounds like you're carrying too many conversations without action. Try moving on to scheduling dates sooner. My average message count prior to starting to make plans is like 4-5.
/r/seduction30/09/24 10:41 PM
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Mid 30s guy here. I pull girls in their early-mid 20s almost exclusively. Most women think I'm 26-28. Honestly I think this perception hurts more than it helps. The right time to start is now.
/r/seduction30/09/24 10:13 PM
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My confirmation method is something that assumes she's showing up. If she isn't she'll correct me. "I have a work call that will probably go long, might be 15 min late. See you later" "Heading over directly after an appointment. I'll be wearing a blue checkered collared work shirt with the handsome face sticking out of it" It does everything that confirming the date directly does, without giving rise to the subconscious thought of "Do people normally flake on this guy? Why? Oh no he might be cre…
/r/seduction26/09/24 02:29 PM
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It's likely that you're not showing enough intent. You're having platonic exchanges of information. You need to tease and sexualize the conversation. You're probably being nice and cordial, and not taking enough risks conversationally. You must be doing something right that women are willing to hang out with you. This says you're likely building comfort and value; they trust you to hang out and there's reason enough to spend time with you vs something/one else. Use that platform to escalate, and…
/r/seduction21/09/24 04:45 AM
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A few things I've keyed in on from your post: You've lost significant weight, but are you still overweight? It seems like you're relying too much on a canned/formulaic approach VS situational/observational approaches that are unique. It's very likely that you come across as rehearsed/disingenuous. You're likely unsuccessful because you tried the same/similar tactic 300 times and expected a different result. You go for a close way too early in your first example. In your second example you're try…
/r/seduction21/09/24 04:08 AM
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Are you sure that income is really a heuristic you want to apply to dating? Those women in high earning positions tend to be older, more masculine, driven, challenging and demanding of you and your career. They have IME been less fun overall. Women can only have the power that you give them, and can only be gold diggers if you let them. There are plenty of women out there who have normal jobs who will appreciate the security of your success, but won't try to take it from you as a sole motivation…
/r/seduction25/04/24 02:33 PM
5

BMI has only validity at population levels - yes. Exact body composition matters more for the individual, but your BMI with reasonable activity levels isn't obese or 'fat' regardless of actual composition unless you were extremely skinny fat. It just sounds to me like you're selling to the wrong market. You're trying to get with other expats/travelers who likely aren't there for romantic reasons. Ergo, you aren't the problem it's the context. Maybe you ought to try dating 'not your type' for a w…
/r/seduction23/04/24 02:27 AM
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As a presumably western male at 6'3 you should be a hot commodity. At 220 that likely puts you at slightly overweight by BMI standards, and if you're a detrained lifter and have been backpacking as long as you say you probably have some muscularity under that. I sincerely doubt that the dad bod is a limiting factor for you since your height is such a overriding boon. As for why you aren't successful you've likely identified a few key factors yourself via Mr Nice Guy. You might look into Charisma…
/r/seduction23/04/24 01:52 AM
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You may be all those things you listed, but end of the day you're still a 21 year old male. Basically not even a functioning adult in the eyes of most women, even if those the same age. The things you know aren't impressive to women unless they're leveraged in a way to make a dent in the world. Being an encyclopedia isn't impressive when the sum of all human knowledge is searchable. Applying that knowledge to ambition and drive is what makes smarts sexy to women. At your age, adept women are loo…
/r/seduction12/04/24 11:54 AM
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Women know that when you ask them out for coffee the interest is romantic. That intention is inherently clear. Asking for a 'date' is bit more high pressure. A 'date' implies she needs to get dressed, schedule an evening, prepare, etc. so it's implying a lot more investment on her part - even if the date IS coffee. "Hang out" "get coffee" is lower pressure and is probably the right way to go for most early interactions.
/r/seduction11/04/24 09:26 PM
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Plenty of women like or prefer older men. She could be more making sure it's not a problem for you than it's a problem for her. Most of the time it's best to just address it briefly and move on, ignore it entirely, or even double down. "It's OK I'm legal" (Pulling the reverse implying she's older when it's obvious you're not, also flirty) "I was pretty certain you're female, glad you clarified" (Deliberate misinterpretation of word 'Freshman' ) "Haha you seem very mature, but I'd still probably …
/r/seduction09/04/24 08:34 AM
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The part that sticks out to me is "hide parts of my personality" Women are very keen on sensing when you're trying to hide something, and it disturbs them even if they can't verbalize or make the reasoning concrete. Trying to give the girl the image of yourself that you think she wants to see is part of the 'nice guy' problem. You become so absorbed in how you think you ought to be that you simultaneously also convince yourself that who you are isn't enough. This comes off to the girl that you'r…
/r/seduction07/04/24 01:01 PM
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When you meet a girl on a date for the first time you're basically a threat until proven otherwise. Women warm up to men much more slowly than the reverse. Paradoxically, I've found the greatest comfort in the early stages comes from NOT filtering your speech or mannerisms. Use F bombs if it comes to you, disagree with her, tease her, challenge her. The early stages of comfort are all about making sure you're not hiding something. Being unfiltered but calibrated goes a long way. Part of verbal e…
/r/seduction07/04/24 12:20 PM
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It's hard to have a canned approach to touch. You have to to be observational of both opportunities and comfort level. If a girl has ripped jeans, "Did you earn those holes or buy them that way?" As you gently poke her leg through them. Partially a tease. I've used a bruise on an arm/leg to circle with my finger tip and say something like, "Did you get attacked by a couch?" I've noticed freshly pedicured toenails, picked up the lower portion of the leg and said, "For me? You shouldn't have" Disc…
/r/seduction05/04/24 12:07 PM
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Coffee dates are fine. You're likely just not generating enough intrigue. It likely means you need to take more risks conversationally and be more polarizing. For example, a girl told me she'd been in a long term relationship that spanded her early-late 20s. I opened with a label of her likely emotion, "It sounds like you've been cryogenically frozen and have woken up to an alien world of modern dating" "That's exactly right, it's all very different than when I was looking" "Modern humanity is d…
/r/seduction05/04/24 10:44 AM
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Your breath might actually be bad. A lot of people have gingivitis/periodontal disease and don't even know. You really don't smell it on yourself since your nose gets desensitized to smells it smells all the time. You also don't necessarily have gum/tooth pain. Visit a dentist for x-rays and cleaning even if you don't think you need it. If she wasn't coming up with a random reason to reject she just gave you VERY helpful information that will help you into the future. It's fairly uncommon that a…
/r/seduction31/07/23 05:31 AM
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It probably means you're being too platonic. You need to get her to react emotionally. I'd start by exercising not responding to anything she says literally. Your job is to deliberately misinterpret, tease, and most importantly, not be butthurt. You're not an accountant for some company, you crunch the numbers for a Latvian mob syndicate. You don't play chess, you hustled as a professional gambler until you were banned from all casinos west of the Mississippi. You're not from a family of attorne…
/r/seduction24/10/22 05:16 AM
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Probably one of the most non-controversial opinions ever.
/r/seduction22/10/22 08:00 PM
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Sounds to me like you just need reps. Go out with a friend and have him give you orders of who to try and pick up, every time you don't act within 5 seconds you owe him $20. You can also have him give you conditions, "Tell her that she looks like she's cute but she gives off tire slashy vibes." You then get to mentally assign responsibility of outcome to your friend, so you can focus on doing the reps so your brain learns that nothing bad happens. What you might find is the most outlandish the c…
/r/seduction22/10/22 02:30 AM
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Nothing creepy about it if done in the right context/with the right person. Creepy to a stranger; a girl that has interest in you will find it flirty.
/r/seduction13/10/22 12:23 AM
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There's no downside to trying to engage. What you want to do is have a strong frame but playful, "A late fee of $100 was assessed, but a one time courtesy credit can be applied if drinks are on you." Or, "Yes, but the penalty for being late is a 5 stroke spanking with probation in lieu of jail" The above makes you seem not butthurt, but also implies that you expect it to not happen again.
/r/seduction12/10/22 06:02 PM
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Yikes. This girl isn't healthy. I'd be glad you had that minor misunderstanding that exploded into nuclear warfare. You triggered the landmine from a safe distance. She is entitled to SOME frustration. It's likely the event was important to her, and she was looking for you to be on her side. That she conjured her own expectations of when you'd be there is somewhat on her. However, as a man I think it's also important to set concrete expectations and live up to them where appropriate. You assumed…
/r/seduction06/10/22 12:44 AM
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I'm a little unclear on your post if you're interested in him. In the first part you describe his behavior in ways that implies a level of creepiness, but the conclusion is, "definitely planning on saying something that could lead to discussion about going out..." Are you interested in him? Based on your description, I'd say there's a good chance of romantic interest on his part. Unfortunately, his ambiguity of and lack of intent is leaving you in an uncomfortable limbo where you can feel tensio…
/r/seduction05/10/22 06:22 PM
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At a high level you need to use your attention as currency. She needs to put in effort to get something from you. It's not about being 'dominant' or 'unavailable' but ensuring that if she puts $0.01 in she doesn't get $1.00 out. It sounds like you're the area of disqualifying/breaking rapport/hooking a set, etc. as used in pickup. You're in the realm of having an early relationship. I'm going to guess that you're doing pretty decent on the emotional side if you're getting sex in the first few da…
/r/seduction04/10/22 07:14 PM
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I don't think this is quite the right mindset. It's not 'she feels you or she doesn't.' Seduction involves a certain amount of calibration to a specific audience, and different women respond to different things. I once met a herpetologist (she studied turtles); the way to seduce her was to let her talk for literally 1.5 hours straight about turtles, and asking questions related to what she said. Another girl just wanted to shoot machine gun fire of shit tests at me. Point being, being willing to…
/r/seduction27/09/22 11:51 PM
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I'm new to Vegas so learning things here. Good data. As someone who's part Filipino I can give you a hook for Filipino girls you come across. Work in a reference to the song "Otso Otso" (pronounced like Spanish Ocho Ocho "Eight Eight" see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ4ZYqCJBDo ). You don't need to know anything other than the English parts of the song. Every Filipina on the globe knows this song, and many are compelled to spontaneously burst into the associated dance. Say something like, "H…
/r/seduction27/09/22 07:40 PM
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You have the navigate logistics. Make your dates cause her place to make sense. So, things within walking distance of her dorm/house are important. Before pulling to her place you need to get information on: - Does she have a private room where she lives? - Does she have roommates that will be a problem? Have backup plan: - Do you have any male friends that will support you? They can offer you their place for a period of time with advanced notice. This is a BIG ask to fuck on someone else's bed,…
/r/seduction27/09/22 06:56 PM
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Tough to read the dynamic. Does she have any social/family circle where she currently lives? If not, she may just be using you for comfort because she wants to know someone sort of close by. You're being used to quell some anxiety about being new to a specific place. If she has a large social/family circle there it is less likely that she reached out for strictly platonic reasons, as she's getting that elsewhere. Before you book it I think you need to establish a romantic frame. You'll do this b…
/r/seduction27/09/22 06:42 PM
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Nullroute Not sure what you want proof of. Just walk down any busy city street. Take a look at how many dudes that are less attractive physically than the girls they're with. An acquaintance of mine is 5'5 and 330 pounds, and has a 6'1 wife who's 140 pounds or so and not ugly. They met on an MMORPG. Not recommended as a strategy as the probabilities are LOW - but you really need to have your ear to the ground for opportunity.
/r/seduction27/09/22 05:39 AM
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It sounds to me like you're hoping for too much at once. Also, that you've convinced yourself that you're not attractive to anyone without any concrete basis. You haven't tested your theory enough times to come to a conclusion. I'm 5'8, half asian/white, some muscle, but higher bodyfat than I'd like. I don't have an issue pulling girls I'm attracted to. I have more success in person than online. I do have success with OLD, but at this point I've relegated it to something I do on the toilet, in a…
/r/seduction27/09/22 05:17 AM
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Most guys should slow down and pause more. What you're talking about can be used strategically. A pause after she says something can give the impression that you're looking for more. This can trigger her to invest more. Oddly, it can also make you seem empathetic and a good listener. It can also serve to simply let her talk herself into being seduced. A raised eyebrow and saying nothing can be a sort of neg that puts her in her head about what she said and build tension that you can dispel with …
/r/seduction26/09/22 07:32 AM
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There's so much to read into there. It rather reads like someone who didn't actually do 1000 approaches. More like someone who's convinced that approaching wouldn't work and is now looking for sympathy and to be told it's not their fault and the system is rigged. However, with the benefit of the doubt if 1000 reps didn't work at all it likely means that there's a very rigid mental framework. The person didn't learn and adapt, perhaps using the same pickup lines, having the same resolvable sticki…
/r/seduction25/09/22 10:20 PM
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The only long term cure for rejection is abundance. The belief and knowledge that anyone who rejects you lost out on an opportunity, you pity them. This coincides with the confidence that they are replaceable. The problem is your brain won't let you believe this until it's demonstrably true over a period of time over numerous instances. To some degree 'fake it till you make it' is required in the earliest of stages. However, this only works if you're actually progressing to being the man you kno…
/r/seduction25/09/22 07:20 PM
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If I were to take a WAG (Wild Ass Guess), he found someone else. Alternatively, things started looking too LTR too quickly. Regardless, he may lack the maturity to be upfront that he doesn't want to continue with you. Ghosting is a toxic AF trait regardless of if it comes from men or women. The problem is that when you don't get the closure your brain tends to fill the void in information with your own insecurities and self-doubt.
/r/seduction23/09/22 09:22 PM
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"Brevity is the soul of wit" In the OP the exact same thing could have been communicated with just the last part, "I can't blame ya" or similar. The two extra messages are unnecessary. In particular, "I know you want to give me your attention" is try hard. It's also trying to force the frame, vs letting her adopt a frame because it's in her interest. It's minor and doesn't appear to be in issue for OP. Just optimization for future.
/r/seduction21/09/22 11:34 PM
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Frame could be improved by not explaining yourself and triple texting, but thematically good. 👍
/r/seduction21/09/22 06:59 PM
5

Humor is pretty important. It's just critical to know what KIND of humor in the context of a relationship or pickup. When women say they want a man who can make them laugh - what they're really saying is they want a man who can evoke her emotions and create tension. If you make her laugh by falling into a ditch or being a clown; that probably won't make her respect or be attracted to you, even though it does evoke her emotions. Similarly, if you make her laugh with a joke about taxes - probably …
/r/seduction20/09/22 11:52 PM
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There are two ways to provide value to a woman as a guy. You can provide traditional value, such as looks, intellect, resources, social status (these are all indirectly related usually) OR you can provide the ability to give her a good experience. These are not mutually exclusive, and everyone is a blend of both. Being very high in traditional value but unable to engage her emotionally - she'll probably live with you, and F the starving artist who lives in a van who looks enough like you that yo…
/r/seduction20/09/22 09:21 PM
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Asking for plans is an art. The good news is you already have a sense of when to ask; when the conversation is going well and she showing interest/investment while on an emotional high. Your transition to plans might be a bit abrupt. Let's think about it, you're going back and forth bantering then you drop "What's your schedule like this weekend?" It breaks the intertia of what you were having before. Next time, try a bit more gradually. "Does [name] ever take breaks from [topic you were talking…
/r/seduction20/09/22 08:24 AM
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At the conceptual level, you need to progress the relationship as a guy. By putting the ball in her court you put the onus on her advance things. If you make a fantastic impression, or you have a large SMV, and she's starting to chase you this can work - and may work better because she has to make a conscious decision to engage with you and increase her investment. Imagine Russell Brand given a girl his phone number - she's going to call it (it's also possible that he might be relatively so high…
/r/seduction19/09/22 08:29 PM
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Personally, I don't like mirror modifying the objection with the "You could be my stepmom." If you read this as a blueprint she's feeling uneasy about the age gap. This I think only amplifies her uneasyness and comes off as uncalibrated/unempathetic to her position. It's liable to make her feel old and like she's a cradle robber. I wouldn't consider this a shit test. Your pickup is probably so far out of her paradigm that when you get to this point you're not even yet considered a romantic prosp…
/r/seduction17/09/22 11:17 PM
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I'm not an expert in Vegas game but my experience is below. The strip being basically only working locals and tourists means girls are a moving target, literally and figuratively. The personality of specific venues changes dramatically based on time of year, conventions in town, etc. If you go off-strip to more local areas (DTLV/Fremont) you get a more consistent crowd during the night, but they're also touristy during the weekends, with weekdays least touristy. To me, Vegas game is an exercise …
/r/seduction16/09/22 10:30 PM
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I'm trying to read between the lines here just based on one side of the story. "Last week" - she's rebounding "she doesn't want to hook up with me every time I see her... breathing room" - She's feeling a tad slutty moving on so quickly from her last relationship. "always getting really physical" - Her words aren't matching her actions. When in doubt, read the actions and disregard the words. My read on this is that she's looking for some deniability for her feelings of moving on too quickly, bu…
/r/seduction15/09/22 01:16 AM
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When in doubt, decide if you have anything to lose by assuming it's romantic interest. Proceed accordingly.
/r/seduction13/09/22 11:01 PM
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Neediness in the context of seduction/relationships usually stems around a few points: - The feeling that you have limited opportunities and must therefore must extract validation/attention from one or few actual/prospective partners or always be 'doing something' to maintain a relationship. - You're attempting to fill internal voids with externalities Fundamentally what this boils down to is you act selfish. You're always taking instead of offering value. It creates for a one-sided, vs reciproc…
/r/seduction12/09/22 09:22 PM
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There are women who will be OK with this and those who won't. The dating game is all about finding someone who you are compatible with. This particular requirement may shrink your overall dating pool - but increase your odds dramatically with similarly minded women. That said, it is important to challenge yourself on this, even if the result is the same position you have now. What you don't want is to have this perspective because it gives you a shortcut on developing yourself as a man. If you t…
/r/seduction12/09/22 08:37 PM
2

First thing I want to say is your going for the kiss was not a mistake. Going for the kiss almost never works against you. Even when a kiss is rejected it's a situation in which it does way more good than harm. It establishes you as a man that's willing to move things forward and take that responsibility. It shows that you have enough control and enough calibration to recognize when something is a 'no' from her and it's respected. It builds a lot of comfort. You multiplied this even further by n…
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:51 AM
2

Part of being sociable is being able to use context to make connections. So, I'd think less about "How do I talk to people at clubs" to "How do I give others a good experience." Then, it doesn't matter where you are. My personal mantra that stems from that is, "Everyone is better off for having met me." This sounds like an egotistical statement at first, but it's really a condition I put on myself. My personal favorite, for men and women in public is the observational opener. I'm a naturally log…
/r/seduction11/09/22 11:03 PM
6

Serious could signify: You're too literal in your understanding/delivery of words and phrases You lack emotionality/expressiveness in your gestures/speech You're not up for silly things like jumping into a pool with your clothes on You're too intense when discussing certain things The spirit of romance is lighthearted and playful. It might just be you're so concerned about your image that you come off as a dry personality and don't show the real you, or engage in ways that you want to because yo…
/r/seduction09/09/22 09:41 PM
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The gym is the time for slow game. If you're a regular, you'll have multiple shots at an impression, so there's no need to make everything happen all at once like tradition cold approach environments. Start by just waving at just about everyone you don't recognize, including men. It could be headphones in, thumbs up, as you walk to a new station, not even stopping. Obviously if they try to engage you don't ignore them, "I didn't recognize you, just giving you props on the swole patrol." Do this …
/r/seduction08/09/22 08:11 PM
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Approaching is a diminishing skill. It's supposed to work like that to an extent. However, I think what you'll see, if you analyze carefully, is that the 'floor' is a lot higher than where it was before that very first cold approach with approach anxiety, and it takes you fewer and fewer approaches to get into the swing of things, and your peaks are higher. As a cheesy analogy, you're climbing a staircase in a high rise building. Every single set of stairs at each floor looks the same, but, you'…
/r/seduction08/09/22 06:16 PM
1

It sounds like you want a more gradual approach to getting to sex, and that the gap between her/your place and the bedroom is too large. I agree with you. Find excuses to touch. If you notice her brushing her hair (a sign of interest in and of itself), you can call this out, "We need to get you a hair tie" as you brush her hair for her with your hand. When she was dealing tarot cards, you can stop her hand (assertively, but gently) and PLAYFULLY accuse her of false/bottom dealing, "I caught you …
/r/seduction08/09/22 07:18 AM
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Women engage in "Trouble Talk" with men and women. Very seldomly do they actually want a solution. They just want someone to empathize with them and understand their viewpoint. You can do this in a few ways: You can repeat back their position/viewpoint using a few words of theirs but introducing your own (mirroring). "So you feel like your boss in unfair because _____" You can describe how that makes you feel, "That feels like an amazing opportunity" or "That makes me so sad" You can label HER e…
/r/seduction08/09/22 12:49 AM
1

I've found that people giving shit over age gap relationships tends to work out for me. The more 'taboo' makes it more exciting for the girl, and she feels less controlled by being with you. Sometimes they still have some level of naivety/angst that they feel like the opposite of what they're being told is the right thing to do.
/r/seduction07/09/22 06:29 PM
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Women will categorize men into either a lover or partner frames. There's only a brief period of limbo. You can influence where you're placed. It's also possible to go from one to the other. However, the transition from partner to lover is harder. At a high level, my philosophy is what you offer as your value proposition and context. If you offer value as you're intelligent, successful, family oriented, have a lot to offer in terms of stability/providing safety/comfort, etc. you're going to be in…
/r/seduction05/09/22 11:27 PM
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Always remember, women that are into you make themselves easy to communicate with and setup dates with. It sounds like she lost interest. You may have made some errors. When you have a date (firm time and place), assume she's going to show up. You can send an informative text the day of, "I'll be 10 minutes late tonight due to a work thing, see you at [place]" If she's planning on flaking on you, she'll 'correct' you. When you confirm the date directly, you're sabotaging yourself. It gives her a…
/r/seduction29/08/22 07:33 PM
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I don't think social media vs in person is the real challenge. However, over interacting with posts/stories, etc. is going to harm you more than it will help, so do minimize it. You're going to need to change the relationship dynamic from platonic to romantic. Depending on how long you've been just friends is how cemented the friend zone will be. You're going to need to be careful. When you start as friends suddenly dropping romantic interest can be a ton of bricks out of left field from her per…
/r/seduction28/08/22 01:16 AM
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If you approach someone, with ANYTHING (sales, promotion, etc.) and they feel like they're getting value, they love it. If they feel like you're wasting their time or things are misrepresented, they hate it. There are people who are successful with cold approach. Ergo, it's demonstrably untrue that ALL women hate cold approach.
/r/seduction27/08/22 12:30 AM
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I want to call this defeatest, but it doesn't even sound like you've attempted cold approach? You seem to draw some conclusion based on your sales experience? You don't even mention what you're selling, how these leads are generated, how your peers perform relative to you, or any pertinent details as to how they're analogous. You also claim it doesn't work unless you're a college student, or live in a large city... And offer no argument as to why that is. It seems to me like you gave up on somet…
/r/seduction25/08/22 03:57 AM
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You've likely succeeded in making her chase you. She's texting you because she wants to see if you're interested. Your pulling back is actually probably working in your favor (or not, in your mind) making her wonder about you. You need to make a decision on if you're interested or not. If you are, make plans. If not, you need to say so. It's your job as the guy to take things to the next level. She's basically giving you the layup to do so.
/r/seduction18/08/22 11:35 PM
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A lot of "pickup" techniques stop at introductions. Once you're on a 2nd date+ basis with a girl you really need to have a real relationship. When you use techniques that are incongruent with who you are, women can likely tell. Consequently, you can come off as creepy or something being "off" like you've got something to hide. Women are VERY adept at picking this up. The purpose of PUA concepts is mostly to give you permission to be masculine and how to calibrate your delivery of your true self …
/r/seduction10/08/22 07:18 AM
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I'm going to go out and say that you need to learn how to meet all kinds girls - not just the nerdy/geeky ones. While I have a thing in my own heart for nerds/dweebs/and weebs with esoteric interests, what you'll likely discover with many of them is that they are more likely be infuriatingly timid, lack ambition, insecure/clingy, have poor social skills, etc. I'm not saying a hyper-masculine woman is ideal. Rather, that some of them can be so poorly adjusted to the world, that they won't even tr…
/r/seduction10/08/22 04:30 AM
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Option 3 still isn't related to push-pull. I outlined what push pull is. Option 3 is just teasing and backing off, push without the pull. By teasing then pulling back immediately - it's likely to come off as try hard or like you're specifically trying to instigate a reaction. Usually teases by themselves should be casually thrown in, "... is that a Jeep tattoo? Tell me you're white trash without telling me you're white trash, anyway, like I was saying." where you don't pause for reaction. (This …
/r/seduction09/08/22 10:21 PM
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It sounds to me like you're interpreting the definition of push-pull into this overly broad context, that I've never heard anyone use it in. Push-Pull in the most traditional sense is just a compliment with something that mitigates or cancels the compliment. "That's a fabulous dress, I'm glad someone's bringing back the 80s" "Those are the best nails I've seen all day, I bet your coke dealer loves them too" "That's a very non-Paris look, you must be great at thrifting" What you're referring to i…
/r/seduction09/08/22 10:02 PM
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You just back off for 10 minutes or so, gather some intel, then try again. Sometimes they just want to make sure you are capable of stopping, if she's uncomfortable, to be comfortable enough to go all the way.
/r/seduction08/08/22 06:56 PM
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In this scenario it sounds like she wanted to, but had some condition that wasn't met. She was feeling slutty. A label on her emotions in the right context can help, "Whether we go further than this or not I'll feel no differently about you." She wants to make sure you're not going to hit and quit She might have been feeling self-conscious about her body. Maybe her period, or that she didn't shave, etc. Also, you gave her an 'out' and and she took it. In my mind you should have solved the condit…
/r/seduction08/08/22 05:29 PM
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If your ultimate concern is whether to be direct or indirect, the answer is yes. An approach in night game has typically enough context that the implication is you're hitting on her. During day game you might need to be more direct, because it's much less often a context that women are hit on. Hesitation is bad when you're making eye contact with a girl and you walk well pass her THEN do the approach. "Hesitation" by taking a pause in the conversation is OK - Most men would benefit from slowing …
/r/seduction05/08/22 06:17 AM
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A few pointers here. you will likely need to call out that there is a faux pas with asking out girls at work. If you say it first she's not allowed to think it. "It's against the rules and promise this won't affect your profession in any way..." Want to stick a label on her probable emotions, without over explaining yourself or making apologies. You want to say just enough that you come off as socially calibrated, and assured you will not affect her reputation at work. you do not want to visit r…
/r/seduction02/08/22 02:42 AM
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I think calls are a good move. Most guys don't call. It's a differentiator. When you call you create a higher level of connection and sense of duty = less flakes you can create some additional tension = less flakes and creates a better experience This is for early game. After you've gone on a few dates the call likely becomes less important. You might try the call when you're texting rapidly back and forth. Just call - it'll be awkward for her not to pick up. Even if she doesn't, you toss a, "My…
/r/seduction01/08/22 12:53 AM
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The desire to know how to improve is the right mindset. You just have to realize that even if you get feedback its usefulness will be limited. Women are MUCH more likely to give you an explanation that will make you feel better, vs what you need to hear. Also, if the reason is something that makes her look bad, it increases the likelihood what she tells you will be a half-truth at best. How likely do you think she's to say that she doesn't want to see you because her asshole ex came back in the …
/r/seduction31/07/22 11:20 PM
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No. You have to see what works.
/r/seduction29/07/22 06:34 AM
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Mystery involves tension. If she asks what you do and you deadpan answer, "I'm a professional massage recipient" "No really...." "I worked in tech sbut now I work for fulfillment instead of income." "What does that mean?" "I'd prefer to get to know people for them vs what's on their resume" Not knowing will make her wonder about you. She pulled it out of you so it's not bragging, but there's an impression that you're successful. Mystery is also you holding back a little bit of your outward inter…
/r/seduction29/07/22 06:19 AM
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You can be flirty/sexual in low(er) risk ways. For good examples of this Craig Ferguson and Russel Brand. She could be explaining what she likes about pottery classes, "I love making a mess with my hands, dirt flinging everywhere, and creating something beautiful with other people" (raise an eye brow, dramatic pause) "We're still talking about vases right?" Or "Are you describing a hand made flower pot or an orgy?" This is powerful because it triggers her emotionally. There's the tension built b…
/r/seduction27/07/22 07:30 AM
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Good job. You'll get somewhere doing these reps! Some pointers to reflect on: - When hitting on women at work calling out the faux-pas of doing so will lessen its impact, "I know it's social faux-pas since you're working...." It just make you seem better socially calibrated. Psychologically, she's not allowed to think it if you say it first, as odd as it sounds. At a more intermediate-advanced level, if you can get her to give you permission to hit on her it will go better, "I have something I w…
/r/seduction26/07/22 12:36 AM
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These studies are problematic because they're generally not engineered to get honest answers. Women are subconsciously very concerned with reputation, and being labelled as shallow is negative. Consequently, respondents are very likely to give answers that they think will preserve their reputation over what they actually think. It comes down to the adage, "Don't believe what women say, believe what they do."
/r/seduction25/07/22 09:52 PM
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It's guys that are being reactive and butthurt. Many times the guys that react this way weren't be REJECTED, they were being shit tested - and they failed. It's subconsciously why women do the shit testing, to see if you can keep it together if challenged. I try to live by the mantra, "People are people off for having met me." It comes from needing external validation. It's not a good sign.
/r/seduction21/07/22 07:15 AM
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Your height and weight aren't the whole picture for physical appearance. If you told me you were a college defensive lineman you're probably fine. However, you mentioned dropping weight so I assume you aren't happy with where you are - that's OK. For the 80 approaches you did, it's UNLIKELY your lack of success is due to your physical appearance. More likely you're repeating some mistakes, not knowing they're mistakes because you haven't got the feedback to analyze it objectively. There are abso…
/r/seduction20/07/22 01:48 AM
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You're 23. Well within an acceptable range to still live with family. It seems to me you're trying to find an excuse. I noticed you didn't say women found your living situation unacceptable, you just predict it will a problem without evidence. How many women your age live on their own? You're sabotaging yourself. You can fuck girls on a hiking trail, stairwell, back seat of a Honda, her place, a motel/hotel, etc. if you're motivated.
/r/seduction19/07/22 08:22 AM
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A girl that's willing to go to your place is already pretty comfortable with you. Some exceptions are you're in a college dorm, etc. where that can happen casually. Basically, if it involved any intention with effort on her part, without undue resistance to be at her/your place it's a good sign. Any move that involves physicality is a a good place to start. For example, you might notice she has some design on her socks. You might reach for her leg to get a closer look, or place her leg in your l…
/r/seduction19/07/22 06:55 AM
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I would say that on the average it's difficult for women to give actionable advice to men. The advice is generally designed to make men feel better about a situation, vs direct advice that may be uncomfortable. The typical advice men get in media/others is that you need to be "nice." This turns men into doormats that only exploitative women are interested in. Being "Kind' is a virtue, but just means you can give and demand respect. There's IMO an ethical concern about advising men (or anyone) on…
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:22 PM
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Oddly enough, this video ended up in my suggestions. It goes over exactly this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=482raG\_4t1A
/r/seduction16/07/22 06:57 PM
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Stab at the dark, but I'm going to guess your conversations are too platonic. Thus, when you ask for a date or something in that sphere - there's no precedence for it and comes out of left field. You might need to practice some push-pull, showing intent, and making the conversation man to woman.
/r/seduction16/07/22 06:16 PM
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Women are malleable to some extent. All the "What do you call guys under 6 foot? Friends" girls would eat their words if a Daniel Radcliffe was into them. Some are such height supremacists that they won't date under a threshold, but who cares about them? What's always fun to me is to hit on ridiculously tall women. Seriously. The 6 foot women out there are very intimidating to MOST men, even tall ones. Even approaching a tall woman gives you instant confidence points. Their experience tends to b…
/r/seduction16/07/22 07:35 AM
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Did you also follow Todd's advice to do a layered ask? Sounds to me like you might have done things out of sequence or incompletely. IIRC, his sequence would be something like, "Are you adventurous?" "How do you feel about drinks and witty banter with cute boys?" "What's your weekday evening schedule like next week?" When asked this way, it kind of creates a logic trap. She's adventurous, likes drinks and witty banter, and has free __ days; combined together it's only natural that she go on a da…
/r/seduction16/07/22 07:07 AM
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It is, but also you couldn't use that as a generic line. It was calibrated to the girl and the context. Some girls would bail so quickly after getting that line even if they know you.
/r/seduction14/07/22 08:04 PM
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1) Context is there's a date already scheduled to where you're going, you found something out about where you're going. 2) It's a day-of date text. I think it's excusable to be thinking about a date the day that it's supposed to happen without giving up your power. It's no more needy than a "Dress in __ , see you at _" 3) This is early on. You don't know enough about each other yet to really offer anything about the WHO. There are easy workarounds. I once had a date where I told her I'd pick her…
/r/seduction14/07/22 07:47 PM
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If the date is in the afternoon/evening, I like to do the INDIRECT confirm the day of. The day before women are in a completely different mindset than the day of. It helps you screen out flakes much more reliably. I like the vague indirect confirmation, "Found out something interesting about ____, see you at __" - It's not needy, you expect her to deliver on the expectations she's set, and it's more likely to cause curiosity/intrigue that may push a girl who's planning on flaking to come through…
/r/seduction14/07/22 06:51 PM
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No. Actually planning a second date is bad business. It tells the girl that you're invested in her too quickly and are rushing. Women take time to warm up to men. It just seems like you're sold to quickly, and women want to put in work to gain your time and attention (she chases you). You can hint at future activities without making plans. It's a way to invite her to your world and imagine time with you. For example, "If at some point in the future we were to go for a 10 mile hike, could you kee…
/r/seduction14/07/22 06:05 AM
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Sorry to hear it. Women can be flakey, you can decrease flakiness with charm, but even perfect game isn't foolproof. The good news is you know she's not worth your time.
/r/seduction13/07/22 06:45 PM
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Hmmm. It sounds like she wants your attention more than a relationship. When you run she chases. When you stop she runs. You can probably make something happen if you want, but it's going to require probably more taxation on your sanity than it's worth. This could also just be her way of being a cat. Run up on a cat you'll scare it away. If you just kind of mind your own business the cat will approach you for attention. Once you have a formal relationship with a cat it's pretty accepting of any …
/r/seduction13/07/22 07:20 AM
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Does she have your info? If so, my impression is say nothing and see if she reaches out. If after 2 weeks or so she says nothing, you don't have much to lose sending a feeler then. Or wait until you've moved nearish. A random picture with a caption like, "Reminds me of ___ from our trip." Nothing needy, doesn't require a response... But if she invests heavy in response you might have a hook. There's something about being on a trip that unlock's a woman's sexuality. It's as if the trip is an opia…
/r/seduction13/07/22 04:08 AM
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I like it. My style would be more vague, "Found a spot nearby that I want to try out, see you at ___" It creates a little bit more mystery; she doesn't know what a 'spot' is. The curiosity might pique her interest a bit more than having a definite location. It also allows you to pivot at the last second if you find out she doesn't like coffee/ice cream, or you drive by it on the way in and see it's ridiculously busy. Your line is perfectly fine if it's more your style stay true to it.
/r/seduction13/07/22 02:01 AM
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What does it matter? Yes, women are in general are height supremacists. You can't do anything about it. Focus on the things you can do something about. If a woman will DQ you for being under a height cutoff, you should take the position that it's her loss. You've got a lot to offer, and she's selling herself short by her not trying to be with you. I'm 5'8 and half white/asian (meaning, I'm not white to anyone). Maybe I get rejected more than I would if I was 6'2 and full white, but who cares? Th…
/r/seduction13/07/22 01:54 AM
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You have a date scheduled, you don't need to do much texting, if any. The only thing you want to do is day of date text something non-needy, "I'm coming from a work thing so I'll be 10 min late. See you at ____" Do NOT send a "Are we still on for ___" - You're basically giving her an out if there's any hesitancy. It's needy, and subconsciously says, "Do others not normally show up for dates with this guy?" Phrased the other way, you're not asking for anything. You're informing her. It also sends…
/r/seduction13/07/22 01:06 AM
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Women that are into you make themselves really easy to talk to. They don't take a day to respond. Any form of trying to escalate when you're basically getting silence is too needy; you don't have any social capital built up. The ask is going to blow your chances. At the moment shes probably enjoying your attention, and loving that she doesn't need to give anything back to get it. You are coworkers. Therefore, her fear of social/job repercussions for dating you are going to be high. Even if she's…
/r/seduction13/07/22 12:50 AM
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Jack Denmo and ThatJustHappened have mix of pickup and social experiment/prank type content
/r/seduction12/07/22 01:21 AM
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When trying to keep things casual you need to be mindful of a few things. She needs to not feel slutty, and having sex with you needs to be a positive experience that 'just happens.' When you're too blunt up front that you're looking for casual sex, the optics on it is that she's loose. She fears damage to her reputation. It's ingrained in female psychology that reputation is important, even though we live in huge cities now and not tribes. So, you need to give her the experience of, "I met this…
/r/seduction06/07/22 06:16 AM
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You need to be able to read the room. You want to do the ask when the conversation is going well. Some signs of this are long messages, double texting, quick to respond, excessive emojis, and asking questions about you. Basically, she makes herself real easy to talk to. When you have these kinds of signals that's when you begin to make plans. I don't try to go for the close immediately. It's a multi step approach. You give a few things that are easy to say 'yes' to that combined only make sense …
/r/seduction04/07/22 03:49 AM
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I don't have an issue with it. I've definitely got some blow outs from trying, but at the end of the day you can make a choice. You can do the workplace approach and RISK not getting the girl, or not do it and guarantee not getting the girl. I think the workplace/gym approach is perfectly acceptable. It's just that so many guys have done those contexts so poorly that there's an instant cringe factory when a girl sees it coming. Waitresses can feel like their response to the approach is going to …
/r/seduction03/07/22 08:53 PM
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Go with the flow means a lack of intention. The use of the words "flow" and "vibe" have casual connotations. My phrasing implies that there's some intentional search for compatibility... But doesn't declare casual or long term.
/r/seduction24/06/22 04:25 PM
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There's no good answer to this that actually answers the question. If you say 'casual' it's the wrong answer, you're a fuckboy. DQ'ed If you say 'long term relationship' it's the wrong answer, you're clingy and liable to try to be too close too quickly. It brings up memories for women of men that didn't get the hint. My answer to this is, "I'm just meeting people right now, but for the right person I'm open to whatever makes sense." Logically, this a complete non-answer. It says NOTHING. However…
/r/seduction24/06/22 03:18 PM
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Yes, that's a pretty classic shit test. It's a variant of, "You use that line with every girl don't you?" The play on that one I like is the agree and exaggerate, "Yes, you were the last girl on the planet I needed to flirt with that way. Took a while" This response kicks the ball back in her court and is likely to make her think how ludicrous her accusation is in reality. Your response I think technically passes the shit test, but does some damage in the process. She interpreted your comment as…
/r/seduction23/06/22 07:55 PM
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Yes, that's a pretty classic shit test. It's a variant of, "You use that line with every girl don't you?" The play on that one I like is the agree and exaggerate, "Yes, you were the last girl on the planet I needed to flirt with that way. Took a while" This response kicks the ball back in her court and is likely to make her think how ludicrous her accusation is in reality. Your response I think technically passes the shit test, but does some damage in the process. She interpreted your comment as…
/r/seduction23/06/22 07:55 PM
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Mostly you pass these by not being reactive. You can ignore it entirely and just move on to next thing. Some canned one I use of I can't be super witty quickly are, "That's amazing, How'd you know my middle name?" "I knew that deal with the devil was rigged" Some specific to your examples might be: "Yes my queen, shall I fan you with ferns and flatulence?" "I guess that's what happens when I use my toilet as a wishing well" These you need to say carefully so it doesn't sound butthurt, and you're…
/r/seduction17/06/22 04:14 AM
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This isn't a you thing. This particular scenario I don't think is worth reviewing in your mind. You've done the basic analysis and come up with nothing. The problem with ghosting in any context is that you fill the gap in information with your own insecurities. The more you mull it over the more it will bug you and get more confusing. What is clear is that she wasn't ready for any kind of relationship with you. The motivation is unknown. Trying to ascribe the cause without evidence will get you …
/r/seduction16/06/22 01:19 AM
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It depends on context. If you said, "I'm going to jump a bicycle over the grand canyon through a ring of fire" and that was her response. It's not a shit test, she's relaying an opinion on the scenario. If you said something like, "I'm confident you're trouble" it could be flirty or rejection depending on HOW she says it and body language. Shit test would be, "What made you think I'd be interested in you?" "Have you looked at me?" "You are overconfident" "Clearly, but how'd you know my middle na…
/r/seduction15/06/22 10:37 AM
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It sounds like ancestral programming in your subconscious is leaking into your conscious. It used to be, when we lived in tribes, that damaging your social reputation would limit your ability to successfully reproduce. Now, we live in 'tribes' of a few million. You just need to drill it into yourself that even when approaches fail there aren't any tangible consequences. You can still go to the coffee shop if she rejects you, your friend that also likes her will still be your friend (and if not, …
/r/seduction14/06/22 07:15 PM
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It depends on the girl. You need to be calibrated, and part of that means tailoring your message to the intended audience. It's not politically correct, but stereotypes can give you a place to start with the calibration. If you meet a girl from an asian country, she's more likely to be shy, conservative with relationships, etc. Also, if she's English as a Second Language, you might need to be more direct/literal. You can somewhat test the waters with the playful misinterpretation. "I love croche…
/r/seduction24/05/22 07:04 PM
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Getting a girl to talk about herself builds comfort. When you ask about her it shows that you have interest in getting to know her. It also demonstrates that you can listen. When you ask intelligent follow up questions allows you to flex your intellect, throw your own shit tests (it's OK, and ideal to shit test women on occasion), etc. It also puts a lot of pressure on her where most men will do the "OK that's cool, wow" type needy/supplicating response. It makes you different. Every girl has go…
/r/seduction23/05/22 03:11 PM
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I personally do not like the definite plans upfront approach. The "I am going to do x would you like to join?" method is good from a frame control standpoint. However, it misses some practical elements. What if she's not available then? You then have to ask again, it can seem needy. The Todd V approach of the "Soft close" works much better. It gently ladders up to plans, and she indirectly asks herself out. (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPBQBFfNBZI ) For example, "What do you do for fun?"…
/r/seduction09/05/22 11:59 PM
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There are some good and bad elements of this question. It does show that you're evaluating the girl and making sure she matches what you're going for, potentially. However, I'd guess that this is actually coming from a place of scarcity - where you're afraid of losing out to the other guy(s). You should have the mindset that any girl that chooses another guy over you is her loss. Also, that there's a reasonable possibility of finding someone just as good or better. Lacking this mindset will caus…
/r/seduction07/05/22 09:41 PM
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Being kind is good. Being 'nice' in the context of pickup/seduction generally means that you try to contort yourself to fit the girl's frame. If she says she loves to crochet, you think crochet is super cool. You don't stand up for yourself, and you aren't willing to express who you truly are because you're afraid of being judged for it. This makes you come off as disingenuous, having ulterior motives, and creepy.
/r/seduction04/05/22 08:49 PM
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You'd want to do something that leads you to a goal or set of goals. Effectively getting paid to work out is amazing - take advantage of it. Learn finance/investments. If your workload is really that minimal, you could also see about double dipping on another WFH and double your income for this work time or starting a side business. Basically, use this time to something that develops a long-term, hard to achieve goal. It can be playing the guitar, etc. You're blessed with a great opportunity, ta…
/r/seduction04/05/22 08:47 PM
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Women are attracted to men whose feelings are unclear. What you do NOT want to do is announce that she has you. "I'm still waiting for your background check to come back before forming an opinion" is a good non-answer. It also frames you in the position of you are evaluating her.
/r/seduction04/05/22 04:22 AM
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I usually just misinterpret. "How'd you know I'm a concert pianist?" "I do unpause Spotify with great expertise" "As long as you recognize you'll only ever be player 2"
/r/seduction04/05/22 04:13 AM
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Not a bad line thematically - just not a good opener. That's something that you'd throw out there tongue-in-cheek when the conversation is going well. I think it's better in a phone/in person conversation where you can use it as a snuck premise. For example,"Hiking definitely won't be our first date, but it's something we could work up to. Do you always try to lure men into remote areas? I'm a little concerned." Here, you've seeded an idea, that there is a first date. However, you've glossed ove…
/r/seduction03/05/22 11:26 PM
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The good news is it actually isn't that hard to stand out beyond the average guy. If you're not overweight/obese - You're ahead of 70% of men in US. If you've got a job, ambition, and are working on yourself. This segues into not being needy, centered, confident. You're beyond the average man. If you're emotionally stable (don't get butthurt, can pass shit tests, etc.) you're rather rare. If you can create sexual tension, develop attraction, and do so INTENTIONALLY - You're in a SMALL minority o…
/r/seduction03/05/22 09:40 PM
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The fastest way is to learn from others. There's plenty of content out there on how to get good with women. There are books, there are videos, there are programs. Take in a baseline of information and try it out IN THE REAL WORLD. Do not try to develop a perfect internal encyclopedia before practicing. The theories are meaningless if they cannot be put into practice.
/r/seduction20/04/22 05:12 AM
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The corporate world can be soul sucking. You feel like a nameless cog in a wheel whose only job is to make money for shareholders. Men who suffer with crises of purpose suffer with women, it's not necessarily related to the job that they do. Plenty of 9-5 guys that love what they do at large corporations, feeling like their work generates either work inherently (the product of the work is fulfilling directly at a spiritual level) OR they feel like their work enables them to achieve their spiritu…
/r/seduction14/04/22 07:46 PM
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Some of getting good is building emotional scar tissue these blowouts don't bother you so much. However, some of it is also realizing that you could have done better. Meaning, there's hope because there's still something to learn. For example. For women at the gym there's quite a bit of stigma around it. On social media there's all sorts of videos on 'gym harassment' so women are hyper sensitive to men at gyms. Also, you being a good looking dude doesn't matter; every dude she's been hit on at t…
/r/seduction14/04/22 03:53 PM
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Find SOMETHING about her profile to comment on. Anything that's relevant to her, "What's the story behind the fish photo?" "I don't think I could kiss someone who eats cake like that" "You look so happy standing next to that painting" Just about anything that looks like it required effort and wasn't copied/pasted to 100 other women would work.
/r/seduction13/04/22 10:32 PM
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Usually when women say they like a guy 'that can make them laugh' they're not referring to jokes, but that men can create tension. A lot of comedians get a lot of laughs, but don't get a lot of women. Usually, it's because their humor is self-depracating and the jokes are at their own expense. I once met a girl walking home late, clearly sober, but practically jogging. "You seem like you're escaping from something, are the police after you?" (Mild back and forth) "I was with some friends and the…
/r/seduction13/04/22 09:17 PM
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Should have said, "I'll make sure to get both blackened so you can smash a raccoon"
/r/seduction13/04/22 05:39 PM
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This is something of solid advice, but it misses context when it's parroted. Bad vulnerability - Guy complains about his job/hates his boss, comes off as too clingy, etc. Basically vulnerability that demonstrates a lack of confidence, inability to handle life/circumstances, and/or lack of emotional stability. Good vulnerability - Things that portray honesty/integrity/that there are things a guy cares about. An admission that a guy cried when his mom died, an ability to say that he doesn't like t…
/r/seduction13/04/22 05:03 PM
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There wouldn't be any down side to interpreting this as a shit test. If you're wrong, and that's REALLY just her preference, you're out, but you were out anyway. If it is a shit test, and you pass, you get what you want. A response of, "Who said anything about fucking?" would probably be best. It puts her on the spot, and rattles her cage a bit. It will really put her in her head that she misread the whole situation, even if briefly. What this does is it causes her to react to you, vs you to her…
/r/seduction11/04/22 08:26 PM
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Unless there was something more specific she may not be talking about you at all, it may not even be a real person she's referring to. People that say those kinds of things are on a validation train. The comments are all probably, "Don't break your heart for no man" from women and simps saying, "I would treat you like a queen baby." Regardless of if the video is sincere or not.... tread lightly. I wouldn't even text this girl anything you don't want public. If she feels like you slighted her in …
/r/seduction11/04/22 07:45 PM
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"I don't feel like I communicated very well that I sincerely enjoyed our date - I would love to continue this if you're open to it" You're recognizing an emotion he's likely feeling. Even if you 'miss' (he understands you had a good time), he's going to 'correct' your understanding. Send that - results guaranteed. Post back. If it doesn't work I'll take the blame.
/r/seduction10/04/22 11:09 PM
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Now stop torturing yourself and message the guy. The least likely, but worst case is he's not feeling it. At least then you know. The best case, and most likely is you'll get another date. You can message just about anything positive. Do affirm that you had a great time. He's likely missing input in his feedback loop. You could have another date scheduled before the end of the day if you wanted. 😁
/r/seduction10/04/22 10:48 PM
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It's OK to double text as a woman. For men it comes off as needy, trying too hard, etc. For women it's just a strong indicator to us that you're interested. At the extreme end you can come off as clingy, but our threshold for that is REALLY high. In general, dry, logical responses are signals to us of low interest. A response of, "I was much more nervous about the test than I needed to be, so better than expected! How was your [callback to thing you talked about]?" Here, you'd be showing some ef…
/r/seduction10/04/22 10:29 PM
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It sounds like you went straight for the hard close without laddering up. When the vibe is good you should START to make plans. This can start very soft with things like, "you seem fun but also trouble. If we were to meet I feel like I'd need to update my insurance." If it feels like it's very good you can do a soft with more direction, "If I were to propose drinks and witty banter with good company in the near future, how would that sound?" From there if you get a good response you can ladder s…
/r/seduction10/04/22 09:51 PM
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I don't think you understood what Todd means in the full context. In every video I've seen of his where he talks about the 'look' he says looks matters, height matters, race matters, etc. However, in the context of pickup when you're in front of a girl you can't change any of that. Your 'look' involves a level of planning on advance that will give you success in the environment you're in, that makes you appear socially calibrated. Todd is 5'7, kinda pudgy, and is showing some grey these days. Hi…
/r/seduction09/04/22 11:34 PM
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Women are much less quick to warm up to new men. As you develop attraction she'll likely pick up the pace. "We didn't kiss on second date" - that sounds like you didn't try. In general, there's never a down side for attempting a kiss when the vibe is remotely right and she's giving you some interest indicators such a preening (playing with her hair), touching you, etc. Even if you get the turn away, the only thing that happens is that you're remembered as the guy that was bold enough to try. Eve…
/r/seduction09/04/22 11:19 PM
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Shrug. If she flakes she flakes.
/r/seduction09/04/22 10:17 PM
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It's legal in in various areas of Nevada; if you're willing to travel. Never used such services so I can't advise on any particulars, but there does exist those services, legally, in the US. My only knowledge of the industry comes from Vlogs by "Alice Little" and some documentaries I've seen. In 4 years sex twice - honestly you're doing better than a lot of men out there who are able bodied. It's something like 30% of men haven't had sex, at all, between the ages of 18-30. I know that knowledge …
/r/seduction08/04/22 10:54 PM
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Last week I had an OLD match that was giving me NOTHING to work with. Very simple, logical responses to comments/questions, had no investment at all. No typical signs of interest like multi-texting, long messages, excessive laughing/emoji use - anything. The only positive was that I wasn't getting silence and that she had swiped me first. My only read on her blueprint was that she works in the sciences, has a graduate degree, and likes sports/athletics. So, I did make a clever comment related to…
/r/seduction08/04/22 09:51 PM
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I can't sugar coat this. You're at a massive disadvantage in the dating space. Hard coded into female biology is to seek men who are physically capable; throughout human history men were needed to be protectors and hunters. Attraction fundamentally follows old-world motivations in modern contexts (money, status, physique, etc.) I definitely wouldn't hide it; it comes off exactly as you state (a catfish). Definitely do not use dick size as bait. Most women don't want to know anything about your d…
/r/seduction08/04/22 08:42 PM
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You've already noticed something; they look like they're sisters. That's SOMETHING relevant to them. It also means that you're likely going to need to 'game' both even if you're interested in one. Both need to be onboard for this to go anywhere in this context. "I see you guys together all the time, you dress similarly (if true), and you have the same vibe (if true) - are you sisters?" It doesn't really matter much if you're right or wrong. If right you can do a small tease that is man to woman …
/r/seduction07/04/22 09:01 PM
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"you don't love me anymore" - Probably this comes from a longer term relationship so it's not a early-on shit test. Probably a play on words, "I don't love you any less either." "I bet you say this to every girl" - "Honestly you're right, there are 4 billion women in the world, and I've got 2.4 billion left to go. I'm thinking of hiring the car extended warranty guys to call the rest since it's taking way longer than expected."
/r/seduction06/04/22 10:11 PM
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Ask a friend for help. Have him tell you who to approach, and a few small conditions. This will help ease your mind on the outcome. Just know that this likely won't result in the number, it's just practice to blunt the emotional response. Ex. "Talk to the woman in the red shirt, tell her she looks like a tall glass of merlot" You're free to walk away having just followed orders, or continue if you feel like. But try to feel like it. You have no expectation of what will happen. You're just a scie…
/r/seduction05/04/22 04:50 PM
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So do you have definite plans or not? If you do, just chill out and do the tactical confirmation. "Might be 15 minutes late to our 6pm tonight. See you soon" If not, a non-needy text that asks for nothing can be enough to jump start things after a few days of silence. "Found this cool _____ on a walk today" (show picture of something mildly interesting). But it's generally a bad sign if you get here. In the future. Go for a soft close when asking for plans. "How does coffee and a small adventure…
/r/seduction05/04/22 03:55 PM
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I think the only answer to this question will only come in hindsight based on how the interaction goes forward from here. It does seem to me like she at least trusted you to stay over. If she was really not into you plenty of other options exist to get home. It does seem like she politely declined your advances and set a somewhat adult objection. Maybe her 'trust' issues were honest and true. In her mind she likely feels ensnared by circumstance of the subway not running. My only thoughts on her…
/r/seduction05/04/22 08:23 AM
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The point was there's an upper limit to for muscularity being attractive, not an infinite 'more is always better.'
/r/seduction04/04/22 03:06 PM
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I don't. OP described a woman who corrected "girl" v. "woman." If she meant it in earnest, for me it's a sign she's too uptight/Politically Correct for my taste. It's also possible OP had already soured the interaction and this was a symptom not a cause. If it was a shit test, I'm going to pass it. Treating it as a shit test is a no lose proposition for me.
/r/seduction04/04/22 02:37 PM
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How are you gauging that these women have low self-esteem? Tossing compliments at women needs to be calibrated. Attractive women, regardless of esteem hear compliments so often that it can be meaningless. Women with low self-esteem do not believe your compliment because it conflicts with their own self perception; you seem like a liar. A genuine compliment is earned in some way. A generic, "You're beautiful" isn't very likely to be received well because it lacks specificity. "That dress was a fa…
/r/seduction04/04/22 02:21 PM
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You do get more interest if 'you look like you work out.' There does come a point, especially with enhanced body builders that it looks so unnatural that they don't appeal to most women. In the United States, just not being overweight/obese puts you ahead of almost 70 percent of men nationally. What you want to avoid is the mentality that you need to get your target physique before getting trying to date/practice seduction. Work on both at the same time.
/r/seduction04/04/22 01:27 PM
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What it means is she wants a bit of power play. It also means she trusts you and she wants to yield all control to you. She's basically wanting to let go completely and give you the ability to steer to boat so she can focus entirely on the experience. As for specific tips. Try giving her explicit instructions, "Get on your knees and unzip my pants." "look up at me" "Beg me for permission to worship my cock" You can also ask flirtily if she's hinting at being tied up, or she's hinting at a rolepl…
/r/seduction03/04/22 05:07 PM
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Some girls are genuine height supremacists and will categorically refuse men below a certain height. Some are height preference, where they prefer tall(er) men, but would consider a man who has other things to offer. Some women it doesn't even register on their radar whatsoever. The first category is actually pretty rare. What you should try at some point is just hitting on girls that are 5'11+. I'm the same height as you. Most of them the fact that you're a short(er) man causes you to register …
/r/seduction02/04/22 12:57 AM
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Fucking Bravo! If you were in person I'd chest bump you. These aren't criticisms but something to keep in mind as you develop. The description of your pickup was YouTube-esque Flash Pickup style, Jack Denmo, ThatJustHappened, etc. where you make a quick impression and go for a fast close. I think you realize it as well that the number is likely to be flaky since you're not really on her radar as anything other than a guy that said hello. You expressed some confidence/charisma, but haven't really…
/r/seduction01/04/22 12:21 AM
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It does change things. Women will research you. When you become licensed a lot of stuff becomes public so you're easy to find even if you don't bring it up. Many women say that they're looking for stability and ambition, what that means is earning potential. Socially MD conveys status and social proof. If you're not a strong, confident man - predatory women who are after your wallet will come after you, even if you're in a passion field like family medicine that's not the highest earning. By all…
/r/seduction31/03/22 10:41 PM
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Girls at work is a special scenario. There's quite a bit of pressure on her to be cordial so she doesn't upset a customer or create workplace drama. So, they might give you the contact just as an easy out for the situation they don't want to be in. Even if they are interested in you, it can feel coerced. I'm not saying it's not possible she was interested, just recognize there are externalities at play. You need to have a pretty good interaction to cement yourself. That she responded to your DM …
/r/seduction31/03/22 06:12 PM
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It mostly depends. I've gotten dates and more from online dating. However, my primary assets are my intellect, wit, humor, and ability to get into heads that doesn't come across fully in the apps. I'm not tall nor have a six pack, nor can I flex being a doctor/attorney/other high status position that travels the world. What I've found the apps primarily useful for is training: Finding out what women do and don't respond to in terms of aesthetic and conversations How to develop strategies to sepa…
/r/seduction30/03/22 08:40 PM
2

If it works for you it works for you. The nice thing about human interactions being two autonomous persons you can do you. =D
/r/seduction29/03/22 08:30 PM
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There are probably steps in attraction before kissing that you're missing. However, to directly answer your question. - Do the touch test. If you brush her hair out of the way and she doesn't pull back, it can signal that she's OK with some level of physical contact. - You can do the 'triangle gaze' test. This is where you glance at her eyes, then to her mouth, then back to her eyes again. If she looks at your lips it means she's likely open for the kiss. Here's a helpful video on it. https://ww…
/r/seduction29/03/22 01:03 AM
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Absolutely not - it's going to come off as needy. It doesn't matter whether or not she is serious. Just capitalize on this fact that she's indicating she's interested.
/r/seduction28/03/22 06:55 PM
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These kinds of left field comments are usually just her testing you. There's a fair probability that it didn't actually happen. I'm willing to bet what prompted this is exactly what you mentioned - you stopped talking to her for a week. Thus, she's reaching out to you and trying to get your attention. Whether intentional or not, whether the event actually happened or not - you're on her mind. However, I also get the impression that she's trying to control the frame/your emotions to get you react…
/r/seduction28/03/22 06:26 PM
2

If you enjoyed the experience I'm going to say it was time we'll spent. I think as far as game is concerned guys get too wrapped up in getting the kill, and forget that sometimes shooting the shit and making friends is OK too. It also mentally detaches you from the outcome; you don't want to feel like every time you don't get the girl you failed. You want to feel like you did your best, your conversation skills improved, and you made a connection with fellow human beings. I like to approach game…
/r/seduction27/03/22 02:04 AM
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Good job on doing the approach, and also now analyzing how you can improve. That's the right mentality to have that there's always something to be learned. My thought is you need to qualify sooner. Women will engage you in an interesting conversation with no romantic interest. Also, in groups if no one steps up to reject the dudes, the group will sometimes go along with it since nobody speaks up. Then they'll just talk crap about you once they're alone. Women have no problem wasting your time to…
/r/seduction27/03/22 01:50 AM
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I don't like the confirm text. It seems like you don't have confidence she's showing up or that you're not worth showing up for. This may be a shit test because you said FWB. She may be checking to make sure you're not clingy/stalker type. She may also feel that she'd rather meet before exchanging numbers, if ever. Personally, I would message an hour or so beforehand with an informational text. "Heading out after an errand, I'll be wearing a green shirt with a handsome face sticking out of it. S…
/r/seduction26/03/22 10:37 AM
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Fellow nerd here. Anime, (former) World of Warcraft player, I'm in IT, gamer, etc. It's not an issue. I'm somewhat balanced with traditionally masculine pursuits like motorcycle riding, working on cars, hobby welder, and I lift - but most women don't even know that about me before things escalate so I don't attribute that to anything meaningful in the early stages. I loathe traditional sports. If it involves a ball, I'm out. First thing to know is that most women don't have very interesting live…
/r/seduction24/03/22 11:24 PM
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There's a strange curve of attractiveness vs approachability. If you're not physically attractive and overweight, we don't approach. If you're an absolute smoke show, less men will approach. You're most approachable when you seem in league. Hard to say what the case is for you specifically. Personally, I avoid girls with unnaturally colored hair (blues, pinks) anything more than highlights, caked on makeup, oversized fake boobs, etc. The makeup thing for me is like guys that are 'too nice' to wo…
/r/seduction22/03/22 09:41 AM
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I love that you brought up this objection, it touches on a very important point of the ethics in dating/relationships. The problem is that A) Women object to explicit expectations of casual sex, even if that's what they're also looking for, or are open to B) Women in general are put off by men who say they're looking for a long term relationship from the start - mostly because it sets off their clingy radar. So, guys are left between a rock and hard place as to exactly how to respond to the 'Wha…
/r/seduction16/03/22 11:49 PM
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A woman could be dripping wet at thinking about you, and not approach you. They will do everything BUT approach a man they're attracted to. They would much rather not have you in their life than take the social and ego risk to approach a guy. Only VERY few women will directly hit on a guy, and even then typically only if they're desperate, drunk, and/or not very feminine; all poor options. Alternatively, you're a wildly attractive, successful man with a lot of social proof (celebrity, etc.) they…
/r/seduction16/03/22 09:45 AM
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The issue in my experience is that women who may be OK with casual sex are not OK with saying they're OK with casual sex, or men who explicitly state it as a goal. In general, it makes them feel 'slutty' or that their reputation will be damaged. However, they aren't consciously aware that this is why they feel this way. Casual sex just makes them feel dirty when that's the explicit expectation from the onset. This appears to be something innate in human psychology that hasn't caught up with mode…
/r/seduction16/03/22 12:01 AM
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My impression is that you feel overloaded with variables and are attached to the outcome. Let's see if we can make your life more simple. Go out with a friend that you trust. This friend is someone you'd be willing to cry to if your parents died. Let them know that you want to practice with women and you need their help. Your friend's job is to tell WHAT girl to approach, and to give you 1-2 conditions that are arbitrary. Have him tell you to approach everyone, including people he knows you're n…
/r/seduction09/03/22 05:22 AM
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Women have a hard time being direct. It's not entirely their fault. They've probably tried it in the past and had some guy freak out on them. It is super annoying that they then treat EVERY dude out there with this indirect communication, but such is life. Just always remember that a girl that's in to you will make it easy for you to meet up. A girl that puts up barriers up is not interested (enough). You said you see each other often. This could mean that there's an inherent social risk for dat…
/r/seduction09/03/22 04:26 AM
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Your situation isn't something I can identify with personally; I've never used an escort. However, thinking about your problem and your goal my strategy would be to disappear for a bit. When/if she inquires just say you've had a great time but you're investing your time into genuine relationships. If she's actually into you she'll pursue you. She'll be somewhat indignant if she feels your relationship was genuine. "You mean we don't have a connection?" To which you might respond, "Things are mur…
/r/seduction08/03/22 09:24 PM
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She's likely not very interested in you. I can guarantee she wasn't so busy that she couldn't even have texted you to say she wasn't coming. When women toss vague excuses it's usually them just trying to gently say that you aren't a big priority, and also skirt accountability. A sincere 'something came up' has specifics like, 'I'm sorry my cat caught on fire and I took him to the vet' and there will be a follow up like, 'I'm super down next time you go.' The pausing contact after she blew you of…
/r/seduction08/03/22 10:13 AM
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It sounds like he's pretty well-versed in attraction. Whether conscious or unconsciously he's probably striking you emotionally in a way that you naturally respond to. "Not looking for a long term relationship" - He's a challenge. There's a good chance that you consciously or unconsciously enjoy the pursuit of him being 'hard to get.' If he wanted a relationship off the bat, you wouldn't have the thrill of the chase and he wouldn't be as interesting because you'd already have him. If you think a…
/r/seduction08/03/22 04:11 AM
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From the guy's perspective the multi-girl friend group is somewhat complicated. You have to make the impression to both. Otherwise we KNOW the friend will pull you away. Sometimes they legitimately feel like the guy has a bad vibe, sometimes the friend is/gets jealous, the friend wants to protect her only social contact/thing to do from being taken away, etc. There are a lot more ways to fail approaching girls in groups. As the girlfriend group gets larger it can sometimes be easier. A group of …
/r/seduction04/03/22 02:48 AM
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