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But I'm being serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:45 PM
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How strong is the intersection between blue-pilled progressive left and antifa?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 03:20 PM
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Just here for all the expected gaslighting responses like "NoBoDy HaS EvEr SaID LoOks DoNt MaTtEr lItErAlY AcKChULy ReDPiLl BlaCkPiLl MaDe ThaT Up"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 03:18 PM
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I mean OP is right but they easily could have condensed everything into a couple sentences. Basically modern women, esp and specifically progressive left-leaning feminist women are hypocritical and pick and choose when it comes to criticizing men for their masculinity. Eg saying aggressive men are toxic and then feeling attracted and acting upon said attraction to aggressive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 05:07 PM
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Right, but those undesirable traits on hot guys (cheesy tactics or thin skin) would be absolutely exponentially worse if the dude wasn't attractive or ugly, lol. It's not really a knock on hot guys as it is there are traits that are so bad even hot guys can't pull it off to some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 01:33 AM
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Men can't talk themselves into pussy, only talk themselves out of it. So does this mean if you wouldn't sleep with a guy before he opened his mouth, nothing about his personality would change your mind? Or does it mean you'd be open to sleeping with any guy as long as he doesn't ruin things with his words or personality. You talk about short or unattractive men having qualities like humor or skills but then you also say those traits aren't going to talk you into bed so I am assuming the latter? …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 01:29 AM
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If you look like Chris Pratt facially you have an above average conventionally handsome face. If someone had a subpar face and a dadbod he would attract no women based on that alone unless he had other qualities. However, some or even many men with subpar faces can attract women if they acquire the "gym body". They won't attract all women, but they'll attract a lot, going from zero to decent numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:10 AM
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Who a woman dates isn't necessarily who she finds most physically attractive (or attractive at all), which is the topic here. I've lost count of all the times women have told me they didn't find their bf that attractive at first but she came to love and appreciate him for other reasons. There's a reason why a lot of men have a complex or fear of being seen as good enough to LTR for long-term security, but not good enough to fuck within the 3rd date due to lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:19 AM
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Lol. Show me literally any case of a woman sticking around a shitty man just because of his dad-bod. You won't be able to find one because a dadbod alone has zero draw. Many other traits will do though depending on the woman. Like if he's tall. Or muscular. Or smart. Or rich. Or famous and popular. Or has a goodlooking face. Or has connections. Or is funny. Or even, if he's an abusive manipulative piece of shit. As I said, a dadbod at absolute best is something women are okay with if they like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:51 AM
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The entire dialogue surrounding the dadbod is how it makes women feel more secure and less pressured re: their own bodies, and infers a personality that is less strict, more open to having fun and letting loose (eg eating pasta or pizza, skipping gym days to sit at home and watch tv, etc.). Why would women feel insecure or unattractive if they didn't somehow see a fit or muscular body as more attractive in the first place? Why does a dadbod make women feel more secure, or like "the attractive on…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:29 AM
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Right, these examples sound familiar. I guess to me that means it's not "real" attraction or indication that the dadbod is any kind of attractive if it requires mental gymnastics and the reason is it makes women feel more secure in themselves or eliminates fears that he will cheat or get lots of attention from other women. If the dadbod is so attractive to them, why does being with a guy with a dadbod make them feel like "the attractive one" in the relationship, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:25 AM
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The point being that by definition, the dadbod concept is rooted in finding reasons to like a body that you normally or initially are not attracted to - often in inference to their personality. If it's a body you initially go "whoa, ok/damn that's nice", that isn't the type of body that was referred to when the dadbod concept became popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:15 AM
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Maybe beating a dead horse but kind of a 0.02 final word on the dadbod. Everyone may have their own varying image of what a dadbod is, but the entire concept of the dadbod is a male physique that is by definition less than aesthetically pleasing to whomever the observer is. Which to me means it's impossible for a dadbod to be [most] preferred by anyone, unless it's through mental and emotional gymnastics (He'll be more fun because he won't spend as much time in the gym, we'll get to eat more pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:00 AM
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Everyone may have a different specific image in their head of a dadbod, but the origin of the term inherently implies a body that is aesthetically subpar (to whomever is the observer). The concept of a dadbod has always been and should be heavily tied to the idea that the whole appeal of the dadbod is that there is less pressure on the woman to keep up or that it implies a male personality that is more laid back and okay with letting himself go sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:56 AM
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It's not always exactly "looks don't matter", but it's constantly men being gaslighted when they say their looks are the reason for their lack of dating success. Men being told they should be dressing better, getting better social skills, a better job, growing their connections, and all that. Which is basically saying, looks don't matter to women, it's other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:39 AM
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I agree with mostly what you said. Just sayin though, if we're talking traits that generate attraction, there's height, race, confidence, social competence and status, fame, muscle, skill, intelligence, facial attractiveness, wit, riches. Dadbod alone does nothing, which is why it's pointless to hear women say they like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:20 PM
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For many women, tall broad-shouldered and strong are more than enough to offset the dad bod. Ditto if you're the "right race" or have a goodlooking face. I still think overall dadbods (extra chub) are a liability though - even though women may not like their men super ripped or muscular, a belly and softness are not draws. Men with dadbods who do well with women just have other qualities women can appreciate so that the dadbod is overlooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:52 PM
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Lol this reminds me of a female friend of mine who insists she likes chubby friendly guys but when you see who she actually stares at or giggles about with her friends it's always tall masculine fit men, to not talk of the posters on her walls. Just like with the dad-bod, it's women saying they prefer one thing but really honestly it's just what they are most emotionally okay with due to insecurities ie a fat friendly dude won't cheat on me or make me intimidated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:35 PM
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You gotta be kidding me scandinavian women are literally the most overrated women in the world lol both in terms of frequency and degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:21 PM
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Again, men are complaining bc they are gaslighted. Why not just tell them to watch porn and pursue hobbies forever bc they are poor, ugly, or socially hopeless instead of telling them if they try harder take a shower get a better personality and keep trying for that higher level position for more wageslaving they'll succeed, and if they don't, it's their fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:37 PM
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Not sure which one of your strawmen I should address but I won't bother really. If you want to be successful with women you have options to take steps to improve. It's simple as that. If you don't want to be successful, don't play the game. This has nothing to do with women and their faults - of which there are many, but that is again irrelevant. I agree with your grievances about current society, feminism, all that. That doesn't change the fact that the core of RP works and doesn't lie to men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:57 PM
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What I noticed in school though is that the popular kids were not necessarily the best looking, but perhaps the most socially outgoing and adept and with the most connections. A lot of the rowdy kids did just fine too, as maybe rebelliousness just made them seem more cool, but that might be a cultural thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:13 PM
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What lies did the red pill dispel? The red pill works and engaging in all types of self improvement will increase dating success. It doesn't say looks don't matter or that good looks don't help. Lifting or improving style will improve looks even though you will get varying returns depending on your genetic lottery result. Also with the unlucky in love thing, I don't understand this mentality, as anyone who has touched grass can see all the couples out there in which the men are mediocre at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:11 PM
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He's tall, white, insane strength and muscle mass, and with sufficient fame. He would be a hit with women regardless. The belly is actually a liability - no woman actively wants or seeks it out - it's just something many women would be willing to overlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:13 PM
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Well except Momoa is literally well above average, and it's not bc women are growing up being exposed online to men who are somehow superior to him. Just lol at boy bands being a preference for any women above 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:41 PM
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Yeah so basically a coping mechanism. I've also heard women say they stay away from very goodlooking guys for that same reason and actually use it as a disqualifier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:12 PM
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To many women who say they like the dadbod, the dadbod means someone who is broad shouldered or athletic but not especially defined. Let me ask people this lol. Has any woman ever met a dude with red flags out the ass and then been like "Ok but he does have that smashing dad bod though...." No. But countless women have overlooked red flags because a guy is jacked, good-looking, popular and well-liked, rich, even funny and such. At best the dad-bod - a true dad-bod, eg a soft body from someone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:04 PM
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So you can't be close friends with most people since you find most people physically attractive? I actually agree in terms of being able to appreciate many different types of looks, but the difference for me being the appreciation or attraction for the most part doesn't lead to a desire to pursue anything romantically or sexually to the point where it would distract from a close friendship - assuming that the person is the type I would want to be close friends with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:12 PM
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Why don't you think men and women can be close friends? Aside from the standard "As long as neither side finds the other side attractive", just because you find someone physically attractive that doesn't mean 1) it won't get old anyway and 2) you can't see past it and care for them strictly emotionally. Speaking only for myself, how much I care about someone or am emotionally drawn to someone has little to do with how much I want to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 09:46 PM
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Shitty men and shitty people in general should be held accountable or criticized, that is not really debated but it's a separate issue that has no relation to the common context when "pick better men" is used. Often times it's a woman blaming men in general due to her history of dating shitty men, and the counterpoint is if every guy you've picked has been shitty, maybe you need to look inward.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 06:32 AM
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It's not the idea of paying that bothers many men. It's that women want all the privileges of both traditional and progressive gender roles and deviations respectively, and society encourages this hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 09:55 PM
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I genuinely feel women are taught to be overly wary about all men being potential creeps and to constantly be on guard. Some of this is reality based (even if it's not sexual assault, uncomfortable interactions do happen often enough and are not pleasant) and some perceived or socially instilled, but combined with the fact that things like depression and anxiety hit women pretty hard I'm guessing it can be stressful to constantly have personal safety in mind - either when dealing with men, or ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:06 PM
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I'm not confusing dating with sex. There are enough simps and thirsty dudes who are willing to date, fuck, or wife up women regardless of age, unless again we are talking about if she really lets herself go or after 50, and even then. There are simply less of these men if she's over 30, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:00 PM
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That's the other thing. Due to self-reported perceptions and tastes of both men and women, while it's true ugly women will struggle, the bar for being considered attractive [enough] is much lower so in the first place the amount of women considered ugly is very low if we're talking about things within their control. The trope "just don't be fat" exists for a reason - and let's not forget there isn't a shortage of men who like bigger women. Barring extreme cases, most subpar women will not have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:41 PM
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I agree with most of what you said. I just still think women overall have it easier dating. Even when you consider age, and even when things get better for men as they get older and the reverse happens for women, bc the way things are set up in this gynocentric society women really have that much greater of a head start that even with diminishing opportunities they still aren't suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:00 PM
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My own tastes have varied greatly within a span of years. And what I mean by that is someone I would see as a 9 now would've been invisible or a 5 earlier, and vice versa. I can only imagine the tastes of an entirely different person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:57 PM
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Nothing you said is technically untrue, but the way society caters to women the bottom line is a woman will have it easier, at least in dating, with reference to this sub (and by extension happiness?) than her male equal, and this holds true regardless of age if we're talking under 50, and provided she tries and hasn't let herself go - but even then. A woman over 35 looking for love has it harder than a younger woman, but there's a good chance she still gets way more attention, validation, and o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:44 PM
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...Not you specifically. I'm saying it happens a lot. People who pretend like they are arguing from a morally sound and empathetic place and use their bullshit arguments to try to convince people when they are anything but.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:39 PM
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I would argue beauty is almost equally subjective. Speaking for myself the people I would've found attractive or beautiful male or female have shifted greatly many times for me (as a straight male I would have never considered Brad Pitt or Matt Bomer anything special before I started consuming lots of media), so I can only imagine how an entirely different person might disagree vastly with me as well. Nevertheless this isn't new. Women are more valued for their beauty than men. Male beauty is le…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:10 PM
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Their advantages don't end after they hit 30. They still have it much easier than men. The advantage is just not as big anymore. After massive privilege, even decreased privilege feels like oppression to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:03 PM
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That's fine. But then don't pretend like you care, don't virtue signal, and don't try to make it like you are arguing from a point of moral high ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:00 PM
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Just the idea that if you're less attractive you get less opportunities so you're more likely to treat each opportunity/woman with more attention, respect, etc bc you'll value them more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 10:26 PM
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Honestly I agree kind of, a lot of men just use beards to hide weak chins and jaws - but it seems to work on women which is why they do it. There's a reason one of the major tropes for popular dating reality shows is that every dude looks like the same bearded white guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:55 PM
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Masculinity will never not be in demand bc straight women biologically are attracted to masculinity, regardless of whatever trends you see among young women and kpop groups or e-boys (all the most popular ones who still look very masculine, they just have nice hair and skin) and even with the birth control pill. Look at the ladyboners sub. You see very very few feminine guys posted, and if they are, they are of the facially attractive type. Feminine but otherwise unremarkable guys are straight u…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 06:18 PM
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Where are all those people saying that fat women are so common these days that if you want a non-fat woman you're picky along with stats saying most women aren't single? Seems to imply most women and thus a huge percentage of fat women are at least dating if not in relationships or married.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 12:21 AM
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Why would I like and appreciate such a large demographic by default? Unless you're referring to men who don't have individual women in their lives they genuinely like and appreciate, which is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:00 AM
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Yeah my friend got a 9 and he resembles a slightly less weird Benedict Cumberbatch. Doubting yet another AI that supposedly can objectively assess attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:11 PM
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It's never as simple as them having no self awareness or not caring about consequences. They are probably very aware, but due to less than ideal circumstances they have going on, end up not adopting or being able to stick to lifestyle choices that they consciously know would be better. My guess is they have other issues in their life that are overwhelming them or they deem as higher priority, although complacency is also a thing ofc. The anecdotal evidence is in how many fat people have definite…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:38 PM
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I don't doubt that. We tend to hate in others the very things we are insecure about or dislike most about ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:28 PM
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I wouldn't say I am against all aspects of feminism, but in this case you can thank the body positivity movement. Being harsh on smokers or drinkers is fine because unlike beauty standards or self esteem, alcoholism or smoking aren't pet issues of postmodern feminism. And I don't really need to say that this positivity, at least in the realm of dating, doesn't seem to extend to men nearly as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:18 PM
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It has always been popular to give fat people shit for being entitled, shooting above their league, being lazy or unmotivated and engaging in unhealthy or awful behaviors and lifestyles. This is all true and I'm not justifying anything, but people need to realize a lot of the time the fatness is a symptom and the most visible manifestation of who they were to begin with. It may or may not have been their fault (probably both), but most come from a background of trauma, mental illness, deviant ps…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:43 PM
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Right, ofc being [more] attractive and [more] famous will further help them incrementally. I'm just saying being a good and effective standup comedian alone opens them up to plenty of options already.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:56 PM
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I did have him and that article in mind as I wrote my comment as a possible exception. I can't really respond or comment further on that without knowing more of the specifics. It could be that he didn't know how to be funny without the voice and schtick or at least he was a completely different person IRL. All in all I stand by what I said. As far as I've heard he was a good guy and nothing like his stage persona, RIP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:51 PM
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Unless they are very notably physically unattractive or grotesque (and even so), I'm guessing most good male standup comedians have zero trouble dating and are a hit with women. They know how to make people laugh, feel good, and work a crowd and get everyone cheering and on the same wagon, which communicates humor, wit/intelligence, dominance, status, and pre-selection all in one fell swoop.. There will always be outspoken women online or somewhere who will say "I mean, he's funny, but eww no." …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:33 PM
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The best advice was actually just something I came to realize from experience..not going to deny that there are baseline criteria that need to be met in terms of looks, but the bar isn't too high (I'm average height, very skinny) and the most important thing in dating is social competence and awareness. Knowing what to say to make people feel good, when to say it, how to say it, and reading social cues. Knowing how to get a crowd going, what gets people worked up and energetic. This is why so ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:20 PM
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My understanding is that it's a lot lower (ie greater contrast for a 50 year old woman versus say a 25 year old) but due to the sheer gap between men and women, it's still higher than for men. I do agree men's dating opportunities tend to improve with age, but it's a relative thing. Like it goes from not so great to much better but still not as good as for women in general, but this might apply more to women who are older but also have taken good care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:15 PM
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I'm not sure being raised by a stepfather somehow means you shouldn't have an aversion to raising another person's kids versus your own. People grow up in all kinds of less-than-ideal circumstances and there is no obligation to be okay with similar circumstances as they become adults and parents themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:09 PM
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It says a lot when being a single mother drastically decreases her dating opportunities, and yet her opportunities are still far better than the average dude lol. A single washed-up 50 year old woman has more opportunities than most men excluding the top tier, even if the wall is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:05 PM
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Yeah like Burr said. Everyone knows why WNBA players make a lot less, but the men in the conversations IRL, in order to appear polite or sensitive, have to pretend they don't know why and just nod or shake their heads in agreement. I mean, that's what I do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:46 PM
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Ya, but women and people don't think that way. They are primal and short-sighted. They have a bajillion more profiles they can sift through filled with male simps of all levels of quality, why wouldn't they constantly think or hope they can land that perfect unicorn guy who also happens to not be a player.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:45 PM
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It's not about women, it's just human nature. If you had a shit-ton of options waiting in OLD you'd ghost any one guy for the most minor of red flags, perceived or otherwise, also.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:26 PM
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Still hard to believe. With his money many super attractive women would fuck and marry him. Not all, but a very significant percentage even if he isn't that great looking. And for those who say women will only love him for his money. They'll only love you for shallow things regardless. If they love you for your looks or status, that's also shallow. Once the appeal dies or they get bored the attraction will dwindle if not cease altogether - it's just a matter of time. The saving grace being at le…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:19 PM
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Women and female friends cite the pay gap constantly in conversation. Since I have long outgrown any taste for drama or political discussion IRL I just go "haha yeah, sucks" and then either cease to respond in the group, walk away or change the subject without making it look like I am too apathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:01 PM
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Society cares. They will brand men who do this as potential rapists let's lock him up and ostracize him to be safe. For women, it's harmless, sugar and spice everything nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:58 PM
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I have. Usually they are socially awful and creepy acting. Even then, his looks get him in the door if he manages to eke out an acceptable open. But since he's socially incompetent, things never work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:52 PM
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I'm not going to say there are no fat women around but it's definitely not the norm, esp among the demographic(s) actively dating skewing younger like below 35 or even 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:53 AM
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I tend to think that a lot of people here are straight up delusional but then I remember a lot of people probably live in trashy ass environments where the average person is super fat and shitty and low class, which makes their posts understandable and I suddenly get why they've come to think the way they do about the opp sex. Hence the "If you don't want a fat woman, your standards are too high and unrealistic" schtick.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:49 AM
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TLDR if you don't want to read the same shit from another naive OP who's balls just dropped and thinks what they are writing is revelatory and isn't posted literally every other day on PPD: ThE bLaCkPiLl iS tHe FuTuRe. You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:57 AM
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Niceness is a low-priority trait for SOME women, once other higher priority traits are met (status, confidence, looks, competence). For other women, it's not a priority at all - unless nice just means not being a complete piece of shit (and even then, lol). The stark contrast evident here is that niceness or being respectful/nontoxic was ever taught as something men should aspire to for starters, much less the biggest thing to strive for as is often the conventional advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:55 PM
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It's clearly not [entirely] biological to me because my own tastes have changed drastically quite a few times within years. Eg someone I would have worshipped as a 9 became a 5 later and vice versa. To me it was a lot about gradual exposure and the demographics of the surrounding environment at different times.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:24 AM
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When you ask someone, man or woman really, what average is, they'll tell you the average amid a pool of people they deem attractive enough to date, not the actual average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:21 AM
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Again, this sentiment described in the OP is for people who never leave the house and steep themselves in blackpill shit. Somehow despite social media, tiktok, insta and all these filters people are fatter than ever, the men in the postmodern societies are soft and weak women are purple haired and entitled and yet everyone in general is still getting into relationships, dating, and fucking each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:14 AM
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Men are initially attracted to what they perceive a woman to be physically/look like. Women are attracted to what they perceive a man to be as a whole (looks, status, the lifestyle and company they provide) initially. When a man lies with his words he communicates the type of man he is to a woman in the same way makeup lies. Since a lot of women believe nowadays makeup is a must, I might tend to agree with OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 07:14 PM
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Lol truerateme reference, assumption that Miami or Hollywood is full of Chads. You need to get out more, or at least look at more pictures of people who live in different places.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:48 PM
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70? That's generous of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:42 PM
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Pretty sure the OP already formed their opinion beforehand, then used Google to link to some articles to support that opinion. Proof that a college education doesn't ensure intelligence or objectivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:42 AM
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It's more just group think and the human condition. People, especially those who are already down and out or mentally ill with major baggage, proactively seek out like-minded groups online so they can circle-jerk in anonymous spaces. The more time they spend in these groups, the more polarized and radicalized they become, all while proactively only seeking and citing sources with which they already agree and confirming things they want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:42 PM
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There's always that feel-good PC bullshit about personality matters or be yourself or treat people like people, but in reality so much of attraction is inherently objectifying. From physical features and looks to status and bank account, to basically something like how they make you feel vs what they actually are. The appreciation of all these things is absolutely separate from merit and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 06:08 PM
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It's always funny to see people argue by posting pics of women who look great in short hair or pull off pixie cuts well. Like yeah sure, they look fine. But they would look much much better with traditionally longer feminine styles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 06:04 PM
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That's some petty hairsplitting right there. Regardless, you see where I was coming from or why I said what I said. Whether you disagree idgaf
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:20 PM
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You're not following the context. The person who responded earlier in this comment thread (AmbitiousCamp or something) was saying that this type of behavior on the dude's part was not high status and was actually desperate because nowadays being a dick is according to him considered taboo or "not cool" anymore. Implying she grew up relatively recently, and my point is there's no way to tell if she finished schooling a few years ago in the 2010s or significantly earlier. Not that...it matters ult…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:57 PM
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She says she has a husband, so you don't know. She could be talking about something that happened just a few years ago if she got married right out of school, or something decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:31 AM
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I'm not sure why people always think in all or nothings. Humor, intelligence, wit, social awareness, money, and status, all, in varying degrees, will help, to varying degrees. Like if you're kinda funny, socially comfortable and competent, and have decent status, you'll succeed. If you're really funny, high status, good money...you'll succeed more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:26 AM
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Then clearly there are things that work for ugly men. Namely in this case humor, intelligence/wit, money, and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:45 PM
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Mental illness is common IRL, and Reddit (or online spaces in general) self-select so that it's even higher and more extreme here. The only exception is maybe hobby-oriented subs or subs for just funny fleeting things like jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:26 PM
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The aim is for society to acknowledge this is how women work and to stop telling men to try to become more like Bob if they want to be successful with women or find a woman who is sufficiently attracted to them. If men want success, they need to be told to try to be more like Chad. Everyone's mileage and potential will vary, but the truth is the more Chaddy they are the more successful they will be. But society won't do that bc that would mean telling men things like kindness, responsibility, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:34 PM
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Thankfully PPD is nothing like real life. Lot of stupid deluded biased people here with zero life experience. Better to treat it more like a place to feel entertained or for some type of mental distraction if you insist on visiting or commenting regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:27 PM
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it's 2022 tho
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:06 PM
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I agree with those RP guru guys who said something like how talking to women or flirting with them is like selling yourself. To me it just boils down to knowing how to talk to people, social awareness and intelligence which can only be improved by doing it. It's how people succeed with women, how people succeed in making friends and expanding their social circle and connections, how people do better at their jobs with clients, how people do well in sales. It's instinctively and automatically rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:45 PM
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I agree, height and race are big ones. I always say I've seen tall meh looking white dudes doing way better with women than their better looking black or asian peers. I never understand when women say standards are higher for them. That's just not how biology works. Literally any woman if she puts in some effort can become attractive to a very significant % of the male population no matter her genetics 95%+ of the time, even if media is still hyperfocused and critical toward a woman's looks and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:19 PM
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A good personality is sometimes required to keep them. There's enough women who will tolerate a shit personality if he looks the part that it basically doesn't matter. For some damaged women, a shitty personality might even be a requirement for her subconsciously. In response to your edit, I don't think red pill ideology tells guys they are fine the way they are and it's everyone else's fault at all. If anything it holds all men accountable for their own success with women and openly encourages …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:02 PM
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Then we need to tell guys to become hot first because that maximizes their chances of becoming successful by far, as hot shitty guys still have zero problem in the dating arena. None of this "You're single bc you need to be more sensitive to her needs, be a better listener, be funny, don't be so toxic" crap. Not that those aren't noble traits to strive for or anything, but bottom line if she doesn't like what she sees doesn't matter how great your personality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:45 AM
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I see this blackpill wet dream thread here occasionally. How the future generations will be super blackpilled and looksmax. Not really seeing it. Everyone and their mom is already on tiktok and most people I know (all frequent users of tiktok) don't seem to give a shit about their looks. Or at least not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:27 PM
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Judging from some of the arguments from people here who went to college, it's hard to take many of the so-called educated seriously anyway, speaking as someone who attended a supposedly highly rated university that was decidedly unimpressive. Spit out what they want to hear and they will love you to death. Making it through proves little more than you have a pulse and some drive rather than any type of intelligence or functional competence in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:33 PM
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After googling some definitions of body neutrality I'm still confused. It just sounds like common sense...like maybe your body is attractive or unattractive but there are separate things that are important like what your body can do, overall physical health and life quality. An ugly body doesn't mean the person should be treated like shit etc I mean where's the epiphany here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:46 PM
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dis gon b gud material for sure where is my popcorn
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:50 AM
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Yeah you're not ok lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:08 PM
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Those famous people were cited in the first sentences of the study you linked! LMAO. You're off your rocker. George Clooney and Michael Jordan have manly male faces, not feminine male faces, unless you're blind. The studies are sound but stupid delusional people like yourself get the wrong idea from it. Not blaming the researchers, they did their job. Edit: You still haven't addressed (probably bc you can't) why birth control is an okay variable to include but literally everything else isn't asi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:45 PM
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Your mental gymnastics. Gold medal for real. I'm saying all these feminized faces are still masculine faces. George Clooney, Will Smith, Michael B Jordan, Paul Harmon, whatever. The Ladyboners sub is chock full of masculine bearded muscled men for a reason. I know what you're going to say. Every woman there just wants to post what is socially acceptable, lol...despite it being anonymous. Edit: Additionally why would you suggest attractive and confident women's preferences for masculine men be du…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:28 PM
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Re: your link The "feminine" face still looks manly. It's just a fuller face with larger eyes and lighter skin lol. Edit: The feminine face even has a wider jaw and bigger lower third! How about, maybe birth control was excluded bc they wanted their results to reflect the most genuine preferences possible? Seems to be more of a reach for you to jump to the possibility that they excluded birth control out of bad faith. Also in your study in your previous link the abstract strongly suggests that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:16 PM
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Your study doesn't have a picture that I can tell. Every picture from every study or every cited celebrity (esp George Clooney) has a very masculine face to me. "Big soulful eyes" or "good skin" (michael b jordan) or even full lips doesn't make a face feminine lol. So you aren't really interested in these preferences being genuine or natural? Because it seems like you were when you implied that the removal of health and social concerns revealed a woman's true preferences, but somehow hormone-alt…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:58 PM
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So you've resorted to moving goalposts. In any case, show me any one of your studies that depict a preferred face that isn't moderately masculine, because I can't find one. Also, hasn't the birth-control affecting female facial preferences thing been debunked? Also you talk about external societal circumstances like health indicatives reflecting or not reflecting true preferences but apparently the effect (or your perceived effect) of birth control literally and directly changing hormone levels …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:35 PM
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Here's another one that goes along with what I said. Women overall still want masculine. Just not all women agree on how masculine is okay: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/attraction-evolved/201712/why-certain-women-prefer-man-whos-more-feminine I've seen your data. LMAO I just read your link during my own google search. It was funny the first two guys they cited were George Clooney and Michael B Jordan, both who clearly still look quite masculine and manly. You would also be an idiot to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:18 PM
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They prefer masculine looking men, just not hypermasculine brute gigachads like incels say. I just believe what I see. You can tell the countless women I've worked and spent time with that they are wrong lolz. Man you are really bent on this agenda aren't you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:09 PM
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My anecdotes are wrong? LOL My anecdotes are just anecdotes. Boy bands have ALWAYS had many young female fans. This is nothing new. Because as someone said, girls like boys (or boyish looking men) and women like men. They grow up to prefer something more mature or masc looking. Tale as old as time. Also, many Kpop guys and e-boys again aren't actually even that feminine looking. Their faces have good definition and angularity, nice jaws and lower-thirds, and some lipstick and good skincare and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:02 PM
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My bad the first link might have been wrong. I've read also a lot of what you are saying but still remain confused as to why that would be, aside from it also not reflecting what I observe. From what I gather there was also a diagram of a face shown on the spectrum between very feminine to very masculine, and the preference tilted masculine but not as masculine as men would assume women would want, even after ovulation. The study I am looking for is the one that showed masculinity actually being…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:59 PM
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Source is just anecdotal. Unlike men women don't just go crazy over any remotely well-groomed guy they see but whenever they do it's always the masculine archetype from what I've seen. Granted they have to be goodlooking and not brutish and unkempt, as you can be masculine and ugly as well and being masc alone isn't going to cut it. You can always argue that maybe women just get together to whisper about certain men bc they want to conform to what they've been taught to be attractive, but my gut…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:52 PM
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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-39350-8 https://www.zmescience.com/medicine/mind-and-brain/women-prefer-masculine-male-faces-no-matter-fertility/ It seems pretty cut an dry from a lot of sources I've come across. Women subconsciously view masculine faces as indicative of genetic health but also with the tradeoff of infidelity or aggression and such. The consensus I gather is that women prefer masculine faces but not as hypermasculine as a lot of men seem to think. Anecdotally speaking…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:46 PM
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Young girls or women in their early 20s prefer feminine pretty boys and this changes later on. For any of your good intentions nothing is revelatory here. It's been that way for as old as time. The opinions of teenagers or really young women isn't really something most people care about or should matter when discussing preferences bc unless you're in school with these people why would it matter. There aren't kids in school growing full beards and roidmaxxing anyway as far as I know. If your gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:25 AM
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Doesn't this just mean that some women with more masculine faces may look better as men and vice versa? Like more power to Eliot Page for what he wants as it is his life, but there's a reason he looked better as a woman. He has zero male dimorphic features and angularity and everything is soft, and being short doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:28 AM
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I don't get the hubbub against Tinder, but then again I don't use OLD. I do know tons of people in LTR who met via OLD though and the vast majority of the guys are just average dudes. Maybe they were not necessarily the womens' first choice, but bottom line is the men still got girlfriends and/or sex from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:05 AM
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'Decline' and 'run out' are completely different. They may observe their privilege to not be as strong or have as many admirers, IOIs, simps etc. after a certain age like 30 but a woman who takes care of herself can remain beautiful well into her 40s and 50s. In that sense her pretty privilege doesn't "run out" until a lot later, provided they are actually perceived as pretty to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:02 AM
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Style-wise I dunno I mean if you discount the eyeliner and Twilight-esque makeup his face is pretty square and masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:56 AM
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I think when women come to prefer more masculine men they are still young and attractive. Even the younger ones who prefer pretty boys are still open to more masculine men even if they are still figuring things out and more comfortable with boyish phenotypes. Honestly I think people's tastes just mature as they age. I didn't come to appreciate more womanly physical assets until later on as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:29 AM
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That's not a very reassuring result to me since the most attractive (or confident) women prefer masculine dudes according to the study, perhaps bc they were willing to 'take a risk' with a potential cheater with more options. This also reflects what I've observed. Women in general might be open to a more diverse phenotype due to the social zeitgeist but when it comes time to salivate over an exceptionally hot guy it's always the tall muscular broad shouldered squared jawed type.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:24 AM
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I don't know, could be part biology and part socialization like so many things. I'm a hetero dude and I know I didn't really get into things like breasts or butt or hourglass figures until later on. Growing up I just cared about the pretty face and defaulted to skinny women and never understood the deal with curves, but now I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:20 AM
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There's nothing groundbreaking about Lil Huddy or Benji Krol. They are pleasant-looking androgynous young men, which has always been the type preferred by young women. Literally go back, One Direction, Backstreet Boys, CNCO, Menudo, New Kids on the Block, NSync, there's a reason they are on posters and on school notebooks. Go to the Ladyboners sub made up of older women and you'll see basically only men who fit masculine archetypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:04 AM
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Young women have always preferred pretty boys, hence the boy bands. That's not new. The trope has always been they come to prefer more masculine men as they get older o mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:53 AM
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Noted in your study however is that the most feminine women or women who rate themselves as most attractive - perhaps women with higher/est self esteem? - prefer masculine faces. I've also read the opposite for some reason, studies showing that feminine faces (or at least less masculine ones) are preferred in more rural or less developed areas and countries. A preference and taste in masculinity was found to occur in more developed modern countries with the most media exposure. I find this refle…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:48 AM
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Something tells me the guy you describe isn't as common as a woman of healthy weight, esp if you narrow down the pool to women below 40. Just how much insanely easier it is to not be fat vs to be 6'2, in great shape and make 6 figures is something I don't even need to touch on rn. As another guy already said men wanting women who aren't fat isn't remotely the same as men just wanting Stacy ie disingenuity and mental gymnastics of the highest order.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 06:40 PM
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Seriously this sub is the same 3 threads/discussions over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:24 PM
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I used to work nightlife a lot and I always noticed how tall white dudes with decent social skills but meh faces and bodies had more throngs of women than their better looking fitter non-white friends. The non-white lookers still did fine. They just...didn't do as well as I would've thought, and the meh white guys did a lot better than I would've thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:19 PM
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I suppose I was talking about maybe how women see men in terms of a potential mate, but rethinking it yeah maybe I addressed the wrong situation specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:06 PM
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It's all about where they perceive the rebelliousness is coming from, just like with kindness. If women think it's coming from a place of confidence, intelligence, abundance and dominance, then yes that will enhance any preexisting attraction. If they perceive the man saying 'fuck the world' or doing nice things as the result of desperation for pussy or acceptance, social stuntedness or failure, then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:08 PM
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I think many women would secretly or subconsciously like the idea of her man running after him, but logically prefer that they do not bc of unpredictable outcomes. Basically they want their men to be as protective and dominant as possible as long as they avoid social repercussions or things like jail time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:03 PM
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Should give her props for trying to sound normal for a little bit on her nth alt before she couldn't take it anymore and the femcel/fds sperg had to fight its way out xDxD
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:55 PM
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ngl the most mediocre of white dudes seem to get more attention and play automatically than say a goodlooking black or asian guy in the same social groups. I mean eventually women may realize 'hey wow this other non-white guy is actually clearly way better' but there isn't that knee-jerk preference. Them's the breaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:51 PM
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Def a fan, season tickets to a trainwreck who could refuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:40 PM
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People just prefer to not think about it and assume subconsciously that the guy or girl's positive traits were just God-given and/or acquired with minimal effort. But a woman admitting to tons of plastic surgery and makeup to disguise and modify their looks or a man actively seeking 'advice with women' from a place of incompetence or naivete is inherently, in the moment, repulsive to the respective parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:27 AM
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Lol murica, but just raised around a lot of european and south and east asian friends growing up. The guy isn't ugly but just looks like some burly unkempt redneck dude you'd see in an applebee's or something. American standards always throw me for a loop even being born straight from here and their/our fixations on beards, bulking, tans, and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:41 AM
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Man what passes for Chad or attractive in America never ceases to amaze me. Maybe just bc i was raised in a different cultural environment, I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:30 AM
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So are you saying all these compliments are actually not inflating the ego and self-esteem of women and have no effect? That's hard to argue, especially with all the ways women (and people in general) use social media to seek validation and attention. Ergo fairly clear that even if all the compliments and validation are 'fake' it's still better than the alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:18 AM
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Isn't the point of making multiple accounts making sure nobody knows who you were? Smh Could have just stuck with the one and it wouldn't have made a diff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:45 AM
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"I used to care but then redditors which are representative of everyone pissed me off, so now I don't"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:13 PM
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