OKSector69 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
37	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here	Debate	OKSector69	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 09:19 PM
13	Concepts like hypergamy can have different meanings and interpretations, and manifest in different ways, but that doesn't mean the core idea isn't valid	Debate	OKSector69	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 01:49 AM
7	What's your take on different solutions to a loss of passion in a LTR?	Discussion	OKSector69	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/25 09:28 PM
1	The effort it takes to keep your partner attracted vs the effort of finding a new partner	Discussion	OKSector69	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/24 07:09 PM

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1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here So in your country assortative mating doesn't exist? Highly educated career women date uneducated jobless bums? I've travelled extensively and experienced firsthand that status is attractive everywhere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 07:03 PM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here No, there's a great book called Talent is Overrated that cites a lot of scientific research disproving the myth of innate talent. https://admiredleadership.com/resource/talent-is-overrated-what-really-separates-world-class-performers-from-everybody-else/	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 07:00 PM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here I mean yeah if your life isn't going how you want it then it would have to be something life changing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 06:58 PM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here These guys would have been taking home the same average women if they worked at mcdonalds?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 06:16 AM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Come on you know that's not true. Women on here all the time bang the drum of "assortive mating" which means that people couple up with people who are roughly the same in income, education, and socioeconomic background. So no, the woman who is a doctor isn't dating the trades guy just because he's slightly hotter than the doctor. Women by and large don't date down. So as a man, raising your social status in any way that you can is only ever going to expand your dating pool.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 06:14 AM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here - The bartender/promoter are often above-average in looks LOL no. - Bartenders/promoters are often quite social and have good social skills Yes, which leads to... having high social status. Lastly, the bartender isn't going home with someone much hotter than him. Fine but most of the dudes in the club aren't going home with anybody.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 06:08 AM
3	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Referencing a mega famous dj just proves that you don't really understand what it's like at a more niche local level.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 06:05 AM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Socializing with people and making friends and having people who are happy to see you and want to socialize with you gives you social legitimacy and social status. As opposed to these guys who think that having a good career that makes them 200k makes them "high status" even though they have no friends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 06:03 AM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here just being a bit social periodically So... making friends and developing some sort of... social status?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 05:56 AM
3	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here No not really. Less so than the expiration date on your looks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 05:54 AM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here I still think you're looking at this too black and white. There's a guy somewhere in this thread who says he's low status but he's working on writing a novel. Okay so imagine that this is some kind of super nerdy sci-fi niche and there's a very limited audience of women who would be interested. He can't get it published, so he pays to print it himself. He starts promoting it online, gains a tiny niche following, then he goes to some sort of fan event where a community of like minded people are n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 04:27 AM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Nah I mean there's an old trp trope that the 3 guys at the club who are getting laid are the dj the bartender and the promoter, because they're there for a reason, compared to the average schmucks standing around awkwardly hoping to hit on women. They're the focus of attention, and they know everyone and are socially connected. None of those things take genetic talent or even intelligence tbh.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 04:20 AM
0	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here How are you not able to see that there are levels of attractive status that women like that fall far below professional athlete?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 04:16 AM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here yep, exactly	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 04:15 AM
3	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Yes. You really think that a guy who is a popular local club dj who knows all of the cool people, has access to all of the good drugs, and is invited to all of the coolest parties isn't able to get laid in a league beyond what he could if he was making the same amount of money working at starbucks?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 04:15 AM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here The man who doesn't work at the hospital isn't even going to be on their radar. You're proving my point for me. If her choice is a dr at the hospital or some guy she matched with on tinder who is a tradesman, all things else being equal, I'm pretty sure she's going to pick the doctor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 04:11 AM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Naw the attraction is the status or the money not you and how you look and your personality. How you look has a hard limit and is always declining. Status can be always increasing throughout your life. Even a woman who is attracted to your looks and is on your level is going to pick a man who is more interesting and socially connected than you if she can if you're some kind of boring nobody. People can definitely like you because you are fun to be around and enjoy your company thats the only peo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 04:09 AM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here What is "social fitness" if not being well liked and admired and having a high social status?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 04:04 AM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here No he's wrong. That was easy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 04:04 AM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here This ties into my #2. Status is not a black and white thing, it's a spectrum. There are a lot of things that make a man stand out above the men around him without being an NBA star.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 03:16 AM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here You absolutely can acquire those skills and talents, why would you assume you can't? It's just about where your focus is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 03:14 AM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Social status and socioeconomic status are not the same thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 03:14 AM
3	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here I played a D1 sport with big audiences. I was also a local star athlete. Sure I dated all the time but I wasn't getting nearly the attention that the very good looking star team mate got. There you go, you dated all the time, which is a lot better than the guy who looks like you but wasn't a star athlete. It's not about you vs the teammate that's hotter, it's about you vs the guy that's equal to you in every way but the status. That's just fantasy talk. Pretty sure it's a karate kid joke.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 03:12 AM
3	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here There are small time local equivalents of celebrities who are well known and popular within local and niche social circles and the same dynamic applies. It could be a man who is a leader of a local political activist group, it could be someone who is very active and well liked within their religious community. It's not just about household name mega celebrities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 03:08 AM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here I'm telling you from personal experience and observation of friends that it is true and there are many ways to develop niche social status without being a major celebrity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 03:07 AM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Nope, if you read my post is has nothing to do with muscles or being super rich. Women admire lots of things. She might admire a man who starts a clothing brand, or opens a restaurant, or is a small time local dj, or is active in some kind of local poetry community, or he's an award winning custom car builder who is well known in that community. There are a million niches, a million ways that a man can stand out beyond being a corporate drone with pictures of fish on his tinder profile.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 03:06 AM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here You ignored the part where I pointed out that some people can have zero status and some people can have negative status, therefore everybody has some level of social status. It's not black and white, and it's not just about globally recognizable celebrities. There's a spectrum and where you are on that spectrum is something that you can have control over if you choose to improve yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 03:04 AM
4	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here But short term attraction is real attraction. See #5 and #6. She's not just using you for money if you're not even going to see her tomorrow. What does "liked for you" even mean? That sounds like some real blue pill thinking. Who even are you if not the things you accomplish and bring into the world, and the relationships you have with other people? That is you. More importantly that's how all human relationships work. People like you because of the mark you make on the world and on other people…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 01:57 AM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Which part do you specifically disagree with? Do you have anything of substance to add to the debate?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 01:53 AM
5	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Right. That's fine. Same as if she's dating you for looks and your looks go away. The difference is you can make sure to always be maintaining or improving your status. And the real trp answer to you would be that all women are looking to date accessories.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 12:34 AM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here I would rather not get specific but I basically "followed my dreams" and pursued a side gig that ended up having a small amount of success which led me to whole new social circles and meeting lots of new likeminded people, including women who admired what I had done.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 12:14 AM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Yeah, there you go. If it's good you might get it published and if it's successful you'll have people wanting to meet you and so on. If it doesn't get published you could self publish and start to network with other like minded writers and become part of a community and gain a new social circle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 12:12 AM
3	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here See #6. High status men can easily get casual sex which proves that the status is actually attractive and women aren't just trying to extract resources from them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 12:10 AM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Do something that gains recognition. Start something. Build something. Become someone interesting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 11:54 PM
3	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here That gives you status among bankers but not necessarily attractive young women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 11:53 PM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here But that's the great thing, you can always improve your status and continue improving it throughout your entire life. Whatever interests, skills, or talents you have, there is some way you can develop those to a point where you gain some type of status, however small. And that will expand your social circle, possibly leading to meeting women who share those interests and are impressed by what you've done.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 11:01 PM
4	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Yes it's frustrating that people who haven't experienced this try to argue that it's not real. If you've ever experienced not having status and then doing something that suddenly gains you status, you understand that it's night and day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 10:59 PM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here I think status should be simple which is why it bothers me when people conflate it with a paycheck or a job title. I think reputation is slightly different though. You can be high status "hey look it's that famous director, he's a genius" but with a bad reputation "I heard he's an asshole and a nightmare to work with".	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 10:58 PM
3	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here That's why I said that status is not equivalent to money. Status comes from achieving things that take ambition, skill, talent, and charisma, and which inevitably lead you to lots of social connections and admiration for your accomplishments. This can take many different forms like opening a restaurant, writing and publishing a comic book, or becoming a youtuber. The important thing is not yourself in comparison to other men who you'll never be. What's important is who you are now, vs who you co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 10:55 PM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here I already provided you with two definitions that agreed with me. I think you're confusing social status with socioeconomic status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 10:20 PM
3	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here So provide your definition then. I provided two, both which agreed with my position. Note I didn't say socioeconomic status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 10:20 PM
4	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Looks do impact status. That's the biggest factor that contributes to a woman's social status. But men can also achieve higher status through their accomplishments, skills, talents, and things like that. Which is why you often see celebrities dating way out of their league, but you don't really see the same thing with men who are merely rich unless it's an obvious sugar baby scenario.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 10:18 PM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here You can't be friendless and have high social status! That's what you're missing. Status is not just a job title or the number on your W2. Status is earned socially.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 10:17 PM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here I'm talking about what status means within the context of dating women. The definition I gave you ""societal status" refers to an individual's position or rank within a social group or society, influencing social interactions, opportunities," is literally synonymous with "popularity". It's possible that someone can make a lot of money and have an impressive job but be hated by millions of people and basically have negative social status. You're thinking of status in some kind of very narrow ster…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 10:14 PM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Still works on instagram. I'm assuming tiktok too but I'm old.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 10:10 PM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here I'm not single yet lots of the guys who think their stem job makes them "high status" are. But I'm sure their moms are proud.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 10:09 PM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here From the point of view of men who want to date attractive women, that doesn't really matter. The long term stability can come later, it's the initial attraction that's important. I got my knowledge about status from real life experience. Fame never lasts long without being followed by large amounts of money. You've never heard of artists? There are plenty of people who are admired, respected, celebrated as geniuses throughout their entire lives while essentially living in poverty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 10:04 PM
6	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here The first line of the wikipedia page says Social status is the relative level of social value a person is considered to possess. Such social value includes respect, honor, assumed competence, and deference. As far as status applies to womens attraction to men, you're looking at it the wrong way. You can have a profession that's respectable that is held in high regard by other men, but that isn't attractive or sexy to women. This is one the bullet points I forgot to include but talked about it a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 10:01 PM
1	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here I mean, sure in a sense it probably does. Within the context of reddit, if you're trying to be a mod or something then having a lot of karma probably boosts your status. That's not necessarily a form of status that's attractive to women. But it theoretically could be. Imagine a style subreddit where people post pictures of their outfits and one guy stands out as the "star" of the sub and everyone raves about his fits, he gets tons of positive comments and tons of karma. He could potentially end …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 09:54 PM
7	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here He's in a popular band with tons of adoring fans, he gets to travel around the world and has an exciting social life filled with interesting people. I don't believe it's circular. In every case I know where a guy is dating out of his league, his social status came first and women came second. It's not just he's popular because he has a hot girlfriend. He's popular because he does cool impressive things and people want to know him and attractive women are among them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 09:49 PM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here I had some other thoughts I forgot to include but one is that certain types of social status are attractive to women while others aren't. These are mostly things that lead to a fun exciting lifestyle in areas that women are interested in. You can be a famous musician and be broke, hence high status even when poor. And that's more sexy and exciting than the boring guy with the good steady job who has a "status" that makes his mom proud of him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 09:46 PM
–	What is meant by “accountability”? There are many little ways. Lots of women will do things like forget to do something she was responsible for and then blame her partner "why didn't you remind me"? Lots of women in the US are raised to believe they can do no wrong and anything bad that happens is someone else's fault. The "women are wonderful" effect. When a man cheats, "god what an asshole, he didn't deserve you queen." When a woman cheats "what did he do wrong to drive you to that? honestly you deserve better queen". Women wil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 09:35 PM
5	Women truly do not care if you’re unattractive like you think we do. It’s truly about confidence and charm…. I’ve noticed a lot of young lesbian couples where one is hot and one is not. That has absolutely nothing to do with men dating straight women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 08:48 PM
3	Can hypergamy include factors other than economic status? For me it's the opposite. I find it so strange that women here seem so hell bent on proving that their partners are losers. I would think you all would be proud and say, yeah my parter is great, he's so successful, intelligent, ambitious, he's really a catch and I feel so lucky. Men describing what we observe in real life isn't "attacking" you for it. I find the whole conversation really bizarre because it seems to me like it should be uncontroversial to say women prefer to date up. But I've nev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 10:27 PM
1	Concepts like hypergamy can have different meanings and interpretations, and manifest in different ways, but that doesn't mean the core idea isn't valid Nonsense our choices of partners have a huge cultural element. You think if someone rejects a potential partner because of their religion that’s just “biology”? Terms from one field are borrowed and reused in a different way in another field all the time. Deal with it. It’s like complaining that people aren’t using the term meme in its correct original meaning.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 09:18 PM
1	Concepts like hypergamy can have different meanings and interpretations, and manifest in different ways, but that doesn't mean the core idea isn't valid So you think that women can genuinely be attracted to a man who has zero standout qualities compared to her?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 09:15 PM
1	Can hypergamy include factors other than economic status? Social status and reputation are based on things like admiration and respect for one’s accomplishments, talents, career, etc. they’re the same thing. There’s nothing superficial or self serving about that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 09:13 PM
1	Concepts like hypergamy can have different meanings and interpretations, and manifest in different ways, but that doesn't mean the core idea isn't valid I didn't mention biology at all. I'm talking about the general social observation that women tend to want to date up. What "up" means can vary because it can include money or social status and can manifest in a lot of different ways. The fact that it varies and that there are some exceptions doesn't falsify the concept. Do you have proof of the opposite phenomenon where women consistently date or marry down?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 07:01 PM
-4	Concepts like hypergamy can have different meanings and interpretations, and manifest in different ways, but that doesn't mean the core idea isn't valid It's not really an axe to grind because I don't care and I don't think there's anything wrong with it, but okay. You don't think that there's generally a reason why people are attracted to their partners? Something that stands out and makes them remarkable? Everybody is just a bunch of equal, undifferentiated totally average people?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 06:58 PM
1	Concepts like hypergamy can have different meanings and interpretations, and manifest in different ways, but that doesn't mean the core idea isn't valid That's fair. Although some people are pushing back on the height thing talking about "sexual dimorphism". At the core are these all just signifiers of masculinity. If you don't have the height but you have the socioeconomic status, that satisfies the sense of masculinity and makes you more attractive in a similar way, doesn't it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 02:44 PM
1	Concepts like hypergamy can have different meanings and interpretations, and manifest in different ways, but that doesn't mean the core idea isn't valid Way to demonstrate that posters here can't understand nuance or metaphor. In no way am I comparing hypergamy to racism. I'm just pointing out that some concepts, maybe most even, can have different ways they manifest in real life and so disproving one particular narrow strawman definition of a concept doesn't mean that the entire thing doesn't exist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 02:42 PM
0	Concepts like hypergamy can have different meanings and interpretations, and manifest in different ways, but that doesn't mean the core idea isn't valid The point is that looks are the only dimension that men are concerned about while women are looking at all of the others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 02:39 PM
1	Concepts like hypergamy can have different meanings and interpretations, and manifest in different ways, but that doesn't mean the core idea isn't valid TBH when it comes to bro science I personally find the "hypergamy" argument more compelling than the "sexual dimorphism" one. I think I would argue that if you go back to when we were apes and money, career, and formal education didn't exist, then things like size and strength were the only forms of status and yes, they were the earliest forms of hypergamy. As such it makes sense that for people who don't have much going on in terms of money and status then size and strength are still the only s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 02:38 PM
-1	Concepts like hypergamy can have different meanings and interpretations, and manifest in different ways, but that doesn't mean the core idea isn't valid It's not meaninglessly broad if all of the different manifestations share the same underlying theme. And it's not meant to demonize women because there's nothing wrong with it. It's completely natural. It's not demonizing men to say they like beautiful women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 02:30 PM
-4	Concepts like hypergamy can have different meanings and interpretations, and manifest in different ways, but that doesn't mean the core idea isn't valid All of these examples relate back to the core underlying concept (across & up). Take for example the concept of racism. It can manifest as brutal violence, a verbal slur, or not giving someone a job. What you're doing is similar to how racists will claim to not be racist by defining it in a really narrow way. "I can't be a racist, I never say the n-word" or "I have a black friend" when at the same time they gave a job to a white person who was less qualified than a black applicant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 03:28 AM
1	Expecting a partner to at least be in a similar economic position as you is entirely reasonable uh... people don't usually talk about salaries, so you see a married couple and you'll never know who is earning more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 01:36 AM
2	Expecting a partner to at least be in a similar economic position as you is entirely reasonable Doesn't even have to be a "power couple". My parents were just normal middle class people who both worked full time. My grandparents helped babysit me when my parents were at work. There are plenty of poor and working class families where everyone works and extended family helps raise the kids. Being a SAHM is a privilege for the upper middle class and above. Which is why some of these women pursue the degree and the career so they can snag the rich guy and retire at 30.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 03:19 AM
1	Expecting a partner to at least be in a similar economic position as you is entirely reasonable The issue is that it makes a mockery of the entire idea of dating someone who earns the same amount as you. If her education and career are just bait to attract the high earning man then it's absolutely ridiculous for women to tell men that a woman's career and income is something they should care about. And the reality is that a lot of men aren't happy with the arrangement, it's just something that happens, often slowly at first. Taking some time off when pregnant, going back to work part time,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 03:17 AM
3	Expecting a partner to at least be in a similar economic position as you is entirely reasonable Wait, I thought you said it was impossible to tell because people don't talk about salaries ;) gotcha	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 01:42 AM
3	Expecting a partner to at least be in a similar economic position as you is entirely reasonable Well the point still stands. I think some women go to college and start their careers basically hoping to be around high earning men who can afford to let them be a sahm. Having had kids in a hcol area it's a dynamic I saw a lot of. So of course these women hate the idea that men might not value her degree or her career and might instead marry a less successful woman who is simply more attractive. Of course most people want a partner who comes from a similar socioeconomic background. But just li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 01:41 AM
2	Autistic women are not "better at masking" I would assume they're more direct and blunt communicators which works fine for dating men, while autistic guys have trouble dating women because they miss subtle subcommunication and cues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 01:33 AM
4	Expecting a partner to at least be in a similar economic position as you is entirely reasonable at least one parent has to stay home and take care of the kids No, nobody has to stay home. My mom and grandmother both worked full time and I'm in my 40s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 01:30 AM
1	Expecting a partner to at least be in a similar economic position as you is entirely reasonable If you've been with someone for like 20, there's probably many times where she earned more or he earned more for a while. Not really. Usually one person is more accomplished, ambitious, and on top of their career and earns more consistently throughout the relationship. And women are more likely to become stay at home moms, work part-time, or choose jobs because of a passion rather than sheer earning potential. The thing is, people don't usually talk about salaries, so you see a married couple an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 01:25 AM
2	Expecting a partner to at least be in a similar economic position as you is entirely reasonable This is only referring to the beginning of a relationship, as one grows and changes so do circumstances and even choice. One partner might get a promotion, another might quit to be a stay at home parent. Ah, there it is. Why should men care about this if you're just planning on quitting your job the minute you have a kid?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 01:15 AM
2	Autistic women are not "better at masking" In some cases autistic for a girl is just having normal "boy brain" in the social sense. This is another reason why they would have an easier time dating. They're the "cool girls" who share male interests and get along with the boys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/25 08:10 PM
4	If hypergamy exists, why are there so many couples which disprove it? “not being a multi millionaire model” is a strawman. Women can still date and marry up without him being a millionaire. Most couples in the US the husband still earns more. A third of married mothers don’t work at all. The flip side of hypergamy is polygyny which means men have a natural instinct to sleep around with a lot of women. But not all men can achieve this, only the most attractive can. That doesn’t mean the instinct doesn’t exist. It’s the same thing with hypergamy. Highly attractive w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/25 09:43 PM
0	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? The beta bux she marries can still make more money than her (that's the bux part) be higher status, better educated, and at least as good looking as her if not better, so she's still being hypergamous. He's just not as hot as the short term guys were. The saying is that women date across and up. So the guy she settles for later is generally at least equal to her in most categories and probably up in a few. Generally things like money, career achievements, future earning potential, stability, and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/25 09:41 PM
2	Women ARE wonderful Men commit the majority of crime Men are attracted to very young women. Men are more likely to start wars Men often do not care for their kids These points all say "men bad" but it doesn't necessarily follow that women are wonderful. Women can also be bad. As for men starting wars, you didn't even read your own link which says "They found that 36% of the female leaders initiated at least one militarized dispute, while only 30% of male leaders did the same." Men being attracted to young women is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/25 05:52 PM
4	Since ageing is inevitable - why are women still being pushed to marry and have children young? When I got divorced I assumed I would be dating divorced women with kids but there really isn't any shortage of childfree women in their mid 30s to mid 40s, and some of them do still express the desire to have kids, it just never worked out for them. I just looked it up and about 20% of 40 year old women in the US don't have kids. But if you live in a big city, in certain circles, I think it's much higher and of course these are often the women who are single and dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/25 11:44 PM
10	Since ageing is inevitable - why are women still being pushed to marry and have children young? There is no real pressure on women to do anything at any age Sadly that's really not true if she wants to get married and have kids. Imagine that marriage and kids are the furthest thing from her mind in her 20s and she just dates around casually and has fun. Then when she hits 30 she realizes time is running out and she starts to look for husband material. Maybe that takes a couple of years and at 32 she finds the man she thinks is the one. On average couples date for 5 years before getting mar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/25 09:17 PM
1	Since ageing is inevitable - why are women still being pushed to marry and have children young? Who is pushing this? I don't see it. You say you keep being shown content but you realize that once you watch one thing along those lines the algorithm starts to show you more and more. But anyway I had my first kid in my 20s and I think there are a lot of benefits to it. There's less of a generation gap, you're more likely to be around to see great grandchildren, you have more energy and will have more energy for grandkids, and if your relationship doesn't work out, you'll still be young enough…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/25 09:08 PM
3	Toxic Women Push The Sexual Culture That's Ruining Things For Other Women I don't know what you're talking about but here's what I believe happens. Everyone has a natural dating "market" that they fit into based on their looks, socioeconomic background, education, location, cultural capital, charisma and so on. The most highly attractive women can exit that natural market and have the opportunity to date men who are richer, higher status, famous even. They get invited to places beyond whatever social environment they grew up in and can move on to bigger and better thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/25 02:48 AM
12	'Manosphere' tactics don't work- They destroyed my relationship with the love of my life It's not that I don't believe the story, we just don't know the timeline. Did this all just come to a head yesterday? Is she talking about stuff that happened 6 months ago and he hasn't texted her since then? We have no idea. And asexuals are like 1% of the population. Romantic relationships obviously have a phase prior to first having sex, whether that's 5 minutes or years but the point is you eventually did have sex. OP's situation ended before they got to that point so I wouldn't consider it …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/25 04:16 AM
16	'Manosphere' tactics don't work- They destroyed my relationship with the love of my life According to the original post, and multiple of OP's comments... No, he hasn't moved on. He's still trying to play games. I don't personally trust that she's a reliable narrator here but we don't really know the timeline do we? Did he have second thoughts and try to shoot his shot again and now it's over? Or is he still blowing up her phone months later? but in the context of the above relationship, yeah, he screwed it up. If he decided he was done with long distance, fine... But his actions don…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/25 03:17 AM
28	'Manosphere' tactics don't work- They destroyed my relationship with the love of my life Someone can have completely unemotional relationships with sex, and very emotional relationships without sex. Yes of course, I've had platonic friendships that were as close and deep as what she's describing and I wouldn't consider those "relationships" in the romantic sense. I've also had meaningless sex that I also wouldn't consider a relationship. A real romantic relationship needs both obviously. Aren't manosphere tactics supposed to be able to pull women that otherwise wouldn't be intereste…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/25 02:45 AM
116	'Manosphere' tactics don't work- They destroyed my relationship with the love of my life This guy sounds like a jackass but there was no relationship to destroy. You were friends and then penpals. That’s it. You never even had sex. You’re the one being over dramatic about something that was really nothing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/25 10:39 PM
2	CMV: Women's standards are not too high, men just need to step up Women who have to hire a matchmaker are the bottom of the barrel women. Quality men are doing fine. You could easily flip it around the other way "the fact that incels exist proves that the pool of quality single women is too small". That doesn't make any sense does it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/25 07:39 PM
2	Why Are Attractive Men Assumed to Be Worse Partners? Highly attractive guys who want to be in a committed LTR can easily do so and they're off the dating market. Attractive guys who want to sleep around and date multiple women are the ones who are left and they get around so lots of women experience those guys. Why do the dudes who complain about Chad “lowering his standards to fuck more women” also seem to be the same dudes who insist women should lower their standards to be “available to more men”? Aren’t they literally just saying “Chad is bad …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/25 08:20 PM
3	A dual mating strategy is used by people who feel desperate…But it is men who are more likely to feel desperate. The situations are exactly the opposite. Women sleep around with hot guys who have no intention to commit to them and then they're forced to settle down with some guy on their level who they feel is beneath them and they're not as attracted to him as the fun short term guys. Men sleep around with women who are less attractive than them and who they wouldn't really want to commit to and then when they finally land a woman that's actually attractive them and on their level they commit. Two sides t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/25 09:17 AM
1	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Sorry, I didn’t really read the context clearly. I was thinking it was one of those “all young women are attractive if they’re not fat” posts. Didn’t mean to get personal. Best of luck on your glowup journey, you can do it!	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 03:02 AM
–	Men not approaching women anymore is a good thing I agree it’s a great thing because now attractive charismatic men who know how to talk to women have it so much easier! I’ve been approached by women even more in recent years since young men all collectively started being a bunch of timid weirdos.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 03:00 AM
1	Q4M: Why are you not hypergamous? I don't think anyone here has ever pretended that men don't like to date attractive women and show them off in public. That's pretty common knowledge.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 12:03 AM
2	Q4M: Why are you not hypergamous? It’s the same thing it’s just that men are impressed by beauty and women are impressed by social status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/25 05:14 AM
12	Q4M: Why are you not hypergamous? We can't because women only date across or up. In my personal acquaintances I really can't think of any exceptions to this. The closest you might get are a couple who both grew up working class and he's in the trades and she becomes a nurse. She might technically make more money and have more schooling, but she's not really "educated" in a broad liberal arts sense and they're both still essentially working class. Education is only a useful metric if it's a predictor of socioeconomic status and f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/25 06:22 PM
1	I don't believe there is such a thing as "Toxic Masculinty" This is toxic masculinity in action. You’ve defined a narrow set of criteria that you deem masculine and therefore anyone who deviates from that you’re labeling not masculine which we all know means not a “real man”. And on the other hand all of the things you’ve defined as negative “non masculine” traits that are commonly exhibited by MEN… well those would have to be some subset of male behavior, some element of masculinity. You could say the “toxic” side of masculinity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/25 10:34 PM
0	What's your take on different solutions to a loss of passion in a LTR? This sounds like typical red pill anger phase stuff. "Those finicky women get bored easily" instead of taking responsibility for the possibility that you're boring and you've become unattractive. Relationships take work, you're going to go through periods of sexlessness (ever had kids? I'm guessing not), I have had kids and it wasn't the end of our sex life. The fact that you take it for granted that having kids is the end of sex is a good example of what I was calling blue pill pessimism. Becau…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/25 10:32 PM
4	Marriage shouldn't be permanent. Yeah we already tried that. At-fault divorce. It's what right wingers in the US want to bring back. It meant hiring private eyes to prove infidelity and having court trials. Stupid idea to bring back. And then you're saying you're not allowed to get divorced due to abuse or incompatibility or any other reason? It sounds like you're coming at this from the point of view of a guy who is scared his woman will cheat or divorce him, but have you considered the possibility of getting married, her chan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/25 10:23 PM
11	Marriage shouldn't be permanent. Duration: Until the youngest child's 16th bday. So no divorce allowed until then? No thanks. You realize this would make it really easy to trap someone into a marriage by having another kid? Assets: Those accrued during the partnership are split 50/50 upon its conclusion. That's... already how divorce works. Expectations: No banging other people. Again, that's already the standard expectation, it's just that it's completely unenforceable. The simplest solution is, just don't get married.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/25 09:48 PM
2	What's your take on different solutions to a loss of passion in a LTR? Like I mentioned I think the important difference is that the blue pill is externally and materialistically focused. Trips, dates, gifts, and gestures. But the red pill approach is more self focused. Get in shape, achieve greater things that earn back her respect and admiration, focus on your own behavior and whether or not it’s exciting, sexy, and masculine or boring, passive, and routine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 02:24 AM
3	These are the women high value men choose: how does this/should this impact the kind of women average men think they can get? Yeah the post is a joke in so many ways. For context, I’m defining high-quality men based on my own social circle: Highly educated (Top 20 undergrad Probably wealthy parents and generational wealth. Ambitious (30-something, earning $200K–$800K So "ambitious" really just means "rich". Reasonably attractive (SMV 6.5–9) Well above average. Not even a lowly 6, but has to be 6.5. Can't just be rich but has to be rich and hot. Family-oriented (actively want marriage and kids) Rich and hot but has no d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 05:37 AM
4	These are the women high value men choose: how does this/should this impact the kind of women average men think they can get? Your post describes RMV not SMV and then goes on to paint a picture of a typical betabux scenario. She quits her job, has the kids in daycare, gets to hang with friends and do yoga while her rich husband pays for everything. And guaranteed that when she was younger she fucked guys who were hotter and more exciting than him. If she gets bored she’ll cheat and if they get divorced he’s financially fucked. Meanwhile those guys all probably have a coworker who’s making the same amount and just fucki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 12:53 AM
1	CMV: It's ok to break up or divorce, even if nothing is going wrong Sounds like you're saying that a mother can't be relied upon to take care of her children's health and well being without a man around.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/25 01:38 AM
3	CMV: It's ok to break up or divorce, even if nothing is going wrong There is some truth here but there is more nuance to it. The issue is that for a lot of people something "going wrong" would have to be something major like infidelity or physical abuse and often people who divorce (primarily men) are shamed for "breaking up the family" or "abandoning their kids" for what seem to women like superficial or frivolous reasons. Of course if a woman leaves she is always in the right and he must have done something wrong. This sets up a situation where it's acceptable…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/25 11:23 PM
3	There should be a requirement to flair your sexual orientation when debating on this sub Totally agree that a lot more should be flaired like location, married/divorced, kids, religion, etc. TRP was started by middle to upper middle class probably college educated men who were dating women in major American cities. It’s dumb for a Mormon woman who has been married since 18 or a teenage virgin boy in Pakistan to have any opinion on the topic of the urban American dating scene.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/25 12:39 AM
3	Redpill or any other similar content is pure grift TRP was a subreddit. It was free to read for anyone. The books recommended in the sidebar were all easily available for free as pdfs. Where's the grift?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 08:27 PM
–	Debate: The idea of men fully financially providing for a wife is more popular online than it is in the real world. A third of married mothers in the US don’t work at all so you must not know very many people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 10:07 PM
–	"women love sex, maybe they just don't like it with you..." As a man, I disagree but it's really hard to counter what you're saying because then you would say I'm just using it as "an opportunity to flex on other guys." TRP is right, women are highly sexual for the right man. That's not to say that I haven't experienced the post honeymoon phase tapering off of sex. I have. It's just that I recognize that TRP is correct in saying it's because of something I did that turned her off or made her get bored. I've also experienced relationships where that didn'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 03:15 AM
0	Status is everything for men If you have a lot of friends and hobbies that you're good at that gives you status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 08:16 PM
-1	What about class? First of all trp doesn’t care about marriage so yeah the point is to sleep around with those models and just have fun with them. And second, looks correlate highly with class for various reasons. So a lot of upper class guys probably wouldn’t have a problem with women born in a lower class if they weren’t all obese and dressed trashy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/24 10:23 PM
7	Q4M: Would you choose a deep emotional connection with your gf? Or for just primal "Chad" lust? False dichotomy. When a woman is madly attracted to a guy she’ll hang on his every word, do anything and everything for him and treat him like a king.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 08:30 PM
0	Liberal Society Makes It Extremely Hard To Date And Find Quality Relationship For Men and Women Liberal Society (individual choice as opposed to traditional society that minimizes individuality and expression in favor of social cohesion) That goes directly opposite the common understanding that the left is "collectivist" and all about banding together for the good of everyone. Labor unions, democracy, helping lift each other up, socialism, etc. while the right wing at least in america is more individualistic: I got mine so fuck you, pull yourselves up by your bootstraps, don't tread on me,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 08:34 PM
2	CMV: Gynocentricism was created by and exists mainly because of religious/conservative men The nice guy syndrome is mainly observed in men who are either conservative or the ones who were raised in conservative environments. Disagree, it comes from men who are raised in a matriarchal environment. Men are physically absent due to work, war, divorce, death, prison or whatever and at the same time emotionally absent due to multi-generational trauma of not knowing how to be a father. So boys are raised to be nice guys by their mothers, grandmothers, female daycare workers, and an almost e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/24 07:51 PM
–	Women don't want 'better than them', they want 'better than other men' (especially with regards to height). Both are true. To get to "better than other men" you first have to be better than her in at least some area that matters like status, looks, income, charisma, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/24 07:47 PM
2	It seems like males slow to commit AND slow to break up Gee it’s almost like we take commitment more seriously or something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 06:50 PM
0	Red pill core thesis is incoherent As for your second part, there are several reasons why "men age like wine" is true. Most women date up a little in age, some date quite a bit up Women lose collagen faster Some men don't develop more masculine traits until later Getting fit, well groomed, and dressing well are things that take some men some time to figure out So you can be a skinny 20 year old with a baby face, dressed in cargo shorts and a t-shirt and have no luck because the girls your age are dating older more masculine guys.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/24 10:31 PM
11	Approaching women in a limited pool of your social circle poisons this pool for you Also think about it this way. Men, do you want to be friends with guys who are going to try to get with your girlfriend if you break up? Women do you want to date somebody who is going to try to sleep with your friends if you break up? High value men have lots of options therefore the highest value behavior for a man would be to bring new attractive women into your social circle. Men, wouldn't you rather be friends with a guy like that who is bringing new women and their friends into your social…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/24 10:22 PM
7	Red pill core thesis is incoherent For your #1 first of all TRP says that most men are lazy and it’s not that hard to be one of the few who put in the effort to at least improve yourself above the average boring slob. Plus like you said it’s relative. So if you can only date average women now, if you improve yourself you might be able to date more attractive women. Plus it’s not only the top tiny percent of men who are successful because status is highly contextual. You can be the most popular funniest guy in your friend group. O…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/24 12:56 AM
4	What do you all think about the accuracy of these SMV attribute percentages and how would you personally order them yourself? Sounds dumb to me. If a woman matches with you on tinder and invites you over that same night to hookup that’s just looks and maybe a little game. Resources don’t enter into it at all. If a woman hooks up with a touring musician who’s leaving town the next day that’s status, looks, and some game. Again resources are just not a factor at all. For long term relationships you’ll find all sorts of different blends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/24 09:38 PM
0	Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one? Prerequisite. It's the whole point of a relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 08:21 PM
3	Married couples should share all social security contributions When you get divorced you add up the total of both people's 401k, IRA, savings, etc. and divide it in half. So if the husband has retirement savings and the wife doesn't, she gets half of his, as was the case in my divorce. You can also get paid through social security for an ex-spouses work history if you don't remarry and if their SS contributions were greater than yours.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/24 07:40 PM
12	Paternity Test vs. Escape Fund The divorce settlement is the contingency plan. She gets half of everything. Stealing the money he earns and secretly stashing cash in a go bag in the closet is some psycho behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/24 11:44 PM
1	Q4W who "make men wait for sex": what culture, religion, and/orcountry are you from? 80% of people in the US live in urban areas. In my state only a third of people go to church regularly and a huge percentage of those are probably immigrants from south of the border. The average middle or upper middle class, college educated, urban dwelling american woman on the dating scene is not some kind of religious prude.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 07:14 PM
2	Q4W who "make men wait for sex": what culture, religion, and/orcountry are you from? What a shock. from south US, raised Christian Very rural, Raised as Jehovah Witness muslim from the US south and was raised Christian. I was serious about religion as a teen Catholic, suburbs in the Bible Belt raised Mormon raised a mix of Presbyterian and Southern Baptist raised Christian East Asian immigrant. I am most likely considered old fashioned even in my country of origin Baptist upbringing converted to catholic grew up very religious Orthodox Jew Raised somewhat Catholic in Western Eur…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/24 07:29 PM
–	The fear of being used for sex is really about insecurity and validation. Well yeah if you make him wait 3 months and you still haven't had sex, he's going to assume you're just wasting his time playing games. I don't know what kind of weird world some of you live in. Every woman I've had sex with has been on the first or second date. If someone wanted to wait 3 months I would just assume she didn't really like me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/24 12:54 AM
–	The fear of being used for sex is really about insecurity and validation. If everything is going fine until you have sex, and then he leaves, it seems pretty obvious that it was something about the sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/24 12:51 AM
–	The fear of being used for sex is really about insecurity and validation. That means you're bad at sex. If the sex was good he would have stuck around for more. There's no way a guy is going to invest months wooing you just to have sex once and dump you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/24 08:31 PM
3	Just like #badboy fantasy is a fixation for (some) women, it has it's equivalent among (some) men: The hot, damaged/dangerous woman who is a livewire, mercurial, neurotic but also very pretty. AWALT	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 10:11 PM
3	Just like #badboy fantasy is a fixation for (some) women, it has it's equivalent among (some) men: The hot, damaged/dangerous woman who is a livewire, mercurial, neurotic but also very pretty. Nobody says it is. Guys in TRP were constantly talking about watching out for BPD women, don't stick your dick in crazy, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 10:11 PM
30	Just like #badboy fantasy is a fixation for (some) women, it has it's equivalent among (some) men: The hot, damaged/dangerous woman who is a livewire, mercurial, neurotic but also very pretty. It’s called the “manic pixie dream girl” but in real life it basically means borderline personality disorder.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 09:38 PM
1	Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor. You can find the info from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. One thing to note is that the percentage of married women who are sole breadwinners goes consistently up with age. Meaning in a lot of couples the guy is probably older and retired first. Which kind of skews the overall statistic of how many women are sole breadwinners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 09:02 PM
1	Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor. Maybe for all mothers, but specifically for married mothers it was a third in the US the last I looked according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Of course a higher proportion of unmarried mothers are going to have to work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 09:00 PM
-3	Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor. A third. In the US, one third of married mothers don't work at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 12:08 AM
2	Syllogism: social skills contribute little to attraction. So you pass the physical attraction threshold, then you need to approach her, be charming, ask her out, go on a date with her and make conversation, eventually introduce her to your friends and family and she has to see how you are around other people. All of those steps rely on social skills.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 07:20 PM
–	Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance? No, I’m not a tradcon but my ex wife was a sahm by her own choice because she didn’t want to work. When we got divorced she got half of my retirement savings and half of the equity in our house that I had paid the full mortgage on for all of the years she was a sahm. Where’s the disadvantage? It’s a privilege and a luxury to be a sahm.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/24 06:49 PM
1	Why do women dislike video games and men who play them ? Video games are not really a hobby, they're more of a pasttime like watching TV or reading books. Hobbies are either active (playing sports, physical activities, etc) or productive (making, building, crafting things). Women find it attractive when men do things, create things, accomplish things. Nobody has ever thought it was sexy to sit and watch TV. Now obviously video games can be kind of in between and can involve some skill, and maybe some gamer women can appreciate that. But still it doesn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 08:03 PM
2	45% of men aged 18-25 have never asked out a woman in person before. Men, why do you think this is? This. It’s a weird question that doesn’t actually say that men don’t approach. Even before cellphones you would generally get someone’s number then call them later, not try to make concrete plans right there on the spot. It’s better game too. Gives her some time to think about you, check out your social media etc. Plus lots of people get together by knowing each other socially for a while and then ending up alone together and one thing leads to another without any “asking out” ever happening.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 08:43 PM
2	Most of the "AWALT" generalizations made (especially by red pillers) on this are sub false, because they are only true about a tiny bubble of always online Americans, not the general population of people around the world. Tall poppy syndrome, so UK? Rock stars in the UK don't have women throwing themselves at them in the same way as the US? There's no assortive mating based on class signifiers, where you grew up, your accent, where you went to school, etc? Bullshit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 09:23 AM
3	Most of the "AWALT" generalizations made (especially by red pillers) on this are sub false, because they are only true about a tiny bubble of always online Americans, not the general population of people around the world. How so? By what measure? So in every other first world country the rich and poor happily intermarry and there are no class differences? And male celebrities have just as much trouble dating as average dudes? Come on, give me a break. This isn't about america's weird celebrity culture, it's about the basic fact that humans create social hierarchies and men being higher up in that hierarchy is attractive to women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 09:21 AM
12	Most of the "AWALT" generalizations made (especially by red pillers) on this are sub false, because they are only true about a tiny bubble of always online Americans, not the general population of people around the world. Yes every other country is a completely egalitarian society where nobody accomplishes anything impressive, nobody is celebrated for their talents, nobody is more popular, funnier, or more successful, and all social hierarchies are completely erased. A famous Italian painter, a French novelist, a British actor, Japanese pop star, none of these guys have an easier time dating than the average janitor in their country. Ed Sheeran has dated a string of beautiful women because he’s so hot lol. I’ve t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/24 07:09 PM
18	Most of the "AWALT" generalizations made (especially by red pillers) on this are sub false, because they are only true about a tiny bubble of always online Americans, not the general population of people around the world. Then there's generalizations that are false outside the American bubble, for example: projecting Americans obsession with status and power on people in the rest of world where that just doesn't matter in most places Ah yes that famous American invention of social status. No other country in the history of the world has ever had any kind of social hierarchy. Nobody is successful, popular, or famous. American celebrities never have any luck with foreign women who are totally immune to their charms…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/24 06:35 PM
1	Start raising "normie" sons So normie things like team sports, having a strong circle of male friends and a good social life, and having lots of active and social hobbies beyond just playing video games and watching tv? So in other words exactly the sorts of things that trp advocates for?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/24 12:19 AM
2	The notion of a "female intuition" that can "sniff out desperation or misogyny" is completely idiotic and delusional. Women cannot sniff out your desperation, misogyny, entitlement, or any flaw in moral character. They also cannot sniff out your pessimism, negativity, or any "flaw" in attitude. None of these things hurt your chances in dating. Crazy take. You've never met someone who was so negative in everything they said that it was a huge downer? Never met someone who was completely pessimistic and self deprecating? You've never met a guy and could just tell that he never gets laid? This says more about your…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/24 07:28 PM
–	Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own age Right, within the scene you were into, you were attracted to the older guys who had already accomplished big things and had high status in that scene. Nothing in trp says that women will be attracted to random older guys. It's about being the cool older guy who has an interesting life. Just look at Mike Dirnt's wife Or Tre Cool's wife. You're proving the whole point but are somehow totally blind to it. It doesn't matter a bit to those guys that some specific younger woman isn't into them, the po…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/24 09:26 PM
–	Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own age Just because I lusted over early 30s Green Day LOL exactly. You were attracted to older men who were more accomplished, more exciting, and higher status than the guys your own age. The fact that you never hooked up with any men like that is irrelevant. It probably just means you weren't in the right place or weren't attractive enough. These discussions never see it from the man's point of view. The point is that if you keep in shape, stay attractive, accomplish cool things, and live a fun exciti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/24 08:23 PM
1	Question for Red Pillars: If looks & money + status were all that mattered, how do you explain Ariana Grande's romance with Ethan Slater? Ari is mega-famous + conventionally pretty. And while Slater has had some fame on Broadway & a voice artist, he's not some Hollywood heartthrob or millionaire Who tf knows, there can always be outliers. But personally I believe it's looks, status, game that are important. Not money. Not that money hurts. As far as looks, there's a possibility that he just takes bad photos and has a more attractive presence in person. He definitely must have some game and charisma. And as for status, you're looking at his overall level of celebrity but we don't know if there's some other level of status we're not seeing. They worked on a movie together so for example w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 07:48 PM
–	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS AND LOADED/LEADING🐕‍🦺 QUESTIONS⁉️ GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Why can't bad boys be her peers? Within any sort of social circle and socioeconomic status there are bad boys. Go to like an ivy league university and there are the boring guys who study hard and never party and there are the frat boys who sell drugs and crash the sports cars their daddies bought them. They're both essentially peers though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/24 11:24 PM
–	Both partnered men and women accurately rated their own attractiveness; most couples also tend to have two partners of matching attractiveness level. It goes against the grain that women date outside of their league in terms of attractiveness What TRP argues is that above average young women have a lot of opportunities to have casual sex with men who are out of their league who won't commit to them. They then end up marrying a man in their league while feeling that they're settling or dating down, often leading to a dead bedroom or cheating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 11:54 PM
1	The wall is a fact and you don't do women any favors by denying it First of all yes women are being “warned” about “the wall” by RP guys. I don't know what you consider RP but I consider it to be the old TRP subreddit where women weren't even allowed to post. It had nothing to do with warning women or talking to women at all. But secondly why are men being told lies by red-pillers such as “men age like fine wine” and Men do age better because we lose collagen more slowly. “you can get a childless wife under age 30 to have your babies at age 60 even though no on…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 11:51 PM
5	The low bar for men is reflection of women's actual value in dating market Good point. Women will say the bar is on the floor and complain about all of their terrible exes but at the same time they'll try to argue that "who you can get is your league".	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 07:36 PM
1	Is it natural for men to be promiscuous or to be married? If that were true then you all would be virginal lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 06:35 PM
1	Is it natural for men to be promiscuous or to be married? If that were true then you all would be virginal lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 06:35 PM
1	The wall is a fact and you don't do women any favors by denying it Women aren't being warned, the red pill is talking to men. "Go to thailand and get a wife when you're 60" was never part of the red pill, I don't know where that weirdness comes from.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 06:33 PM
0	Is it natural for men to be promiscuous or to be married? So, I have been told by redpill that women who don’t settle down at a young age have baggage and are unable to pair bond, but also that alpha males don’t commit and don’t marry. You misunderstand. TRP says that "women who don’t settle down at a young age have baggage and are unable to pair bond" and for that reason men shouldn't commit or marry. To put it bluntly, this is an unsustainable incel fantasy where women are virginal but always sexually available to men who want to use them and discard…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 12:15 AM
1	The wall is a fact and you don't do women any favors by denying it This is why you hear women accuse men of "wasting their time" This is it right here. This is the biggest tell that there is a wall and women know it. If there is no wall then "wasting her time" wouldn't matter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/24 06:08 PM
2	The wall is a fact and you don't do women any favors by denying it Most women my age (in their 20s) don’t want children anytime soon and aren’t actively thinking about it. That's exactly what the wall and the "epiphany phase" is about. You spend your 20s not being serious about marriage and kids, hit 30 and realize time is running out and only then do you start to seriously try to find a husband. You start dating with more intention and it takes you a couple of years to find the right guy. The average couple in the US is together something like 5 years before t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/24 06:06 PM
1	CMV : Men with exceedingly high libido and not willing to commit or who don’t like monogamy should marry/date gold diggers I see many cases of a man apparently straying/having multiple affairs despite what looks like a happy marriage. Really? You've seen this many times? Where do you live? Obviously it happens but people are usually discreet about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/24 05:54 PM
–	Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings. They define "egalitarian" as anything less than 60% so a man can make 59% more than his wife and that's "egalitarian". Laughable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 06:06 PM
–	Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings. Interesting how you're choosing to mix up primary and sole. In 55% of marriages the husband is primary or sole breadwinner. You said The share of marriages where the husband is the primary or sole breadwinner has fallen steadily in recent decades, driven mainly by the declining share of marriages where the husband is the sole provider – this was the arrangement in 49% of marriages in 1972, while today that share is 23%. You said "primary or sole" but then gave the percentage for sole.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 06:05 PM
–	Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings. Wives who are the primary or sole breadwinner are only 16% of US marriages and the percentage goes way up with older people, meaning they're counting couples where the husband is older and retires before the wife.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 06:01 PM
–	Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings. One third of married mothers in the US don't work at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 05:59 PM
5	Attraction to money and status is NOT real attraction As a man it doesn’t really matter. But male competence and achievement are attractive. Being the center of attention is attractive. Following your passions and accomplishing things is attractive. And then it’s a snowball effect due to preselection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 04:43 PM
54	Attraction to money and status is NOT real attraction Money no. Status yes. Source: every broke loser musician with a hot girlfriend.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 05:20 AM
0	Social skills are fundimental to being successful in relationships, and they are more important than looks, status or wealth. Status is the most important and by status I mean some level of celebrity, notoriety, popularity, recognition, or achievement at something that most people don't achieve. You're right that many people who achieve some sort of status already have good social skills, but also succeeding at something and getting recognition and praise from other people gives you a lot of social opportunities that help you improve your social skills. You could be an author who writes a bestselling novel and gets uni…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/24 06:57 PM
–	Who Opposes No-Fault Divorce? You know that some people actually have assets right? I had to give my ex half of my retirement savings which she didn't contribute to, half of our home equity which she wasn't contributing to, and a car that I paid for. Alimony is a strawman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/24 05:39 PM
2	Research exploring the "bond-building"/"sociability" gap between males and females Lol of course they’re outliers. That’s who you’re describing, a tiny niche of outcasts who don’t play with the other kids and aren’t into normal boy things. Those guys often end up being artistic types who do great with women. Ime all of the ugliest, nerdiest guys that would have trouble dating had strong male friend groups where they all bonded over d&d or video games or anime or whatever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 11:56 PM
5	Research exploring the "bond-building"/"sociability" gap between males and females This is way off base. I know a guy who does great with women who is legitimately kind of a sociopath bully type who probably didn’t play well with others as a kid. And what about every emo goth type kid who gets bullied in elementary school and then suddenly has girls all over him as a teen? Funny how men bringing up evo psych and chimp examples is wrong but somehow a rat study is relevant?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 11:21 PM
1	Red Pill Schism - Defining a fault line When the sub was quarantined and they tried to make their own website. After that it seems like people associate it with random youtubers and podcasters who don't necessarily have anything to do with the ideas in the original sidebar.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 07:15 PM
2	How do the logistics of a "100/0" relationship even work? What value would the non-working partner bring to the relationship? There's only a small quantity of men that could even afford such a lifestyle A third of married mothers in the US don't work at all so it's not at all uncommon.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 07:10 PM
2	How do the logistics of a "100/0" relationship even work? What value would the non-working partner bring to the relationship? LOL, you would have to have 3 kids for that to even reach minimum wage. The average family in the US only has 1.9 kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 07:09 PM
12	Most of the men who have low standards have them low because they aren't desirable enough to have them high. Nobody says that. But a 6 is cute, a 7 is pretty, an 8 is beautiful, a 9 is hot, a 10 is gorgeous, they're all fuckable. It just takes one guy who is an 8 to sleep with every 6 and 7 in a social circle and give them all an overinflated sense of standards, which then makes things difficult for the men who are 6s. Women date up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/24 06:29 PM
2	CMV: being a stay-at-home parent is harder than being the breadwinner Why do you assume I ignored them? I did an equal amount of work, took them to school and picked them up, and everything else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 06:49 PM
2	CMV: being a stay-at-home parent is harder than being the breadwinner Once they're in school it's all the same. But I was wfh when they were born so I experienced all of it. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the rise of wfh is going to do a lot to crush this myth of the hardworking sahm when men can see what exactly their wives are doing all day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 06:09 PM
3	CMV: being a stay-at-home parent is harder than being the breadwinner Nope I’m a divorced dad with my kids 50% of the time and childcare/housework is much easier and less stressful than an actual job.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 02:36 PM
2	doing "hobbies" together? I think there are a few different categories here. Some couples have no shared interests. The man does man things with his buddies and his wife does her things with her girlfriends. This is basically the tradcon way. Attractive women with niche hobbies and lots of options can choose to find a partner who aligns with her interests. For example a woman who is really into mountain climbing will probably want a partner who also is and she'll have her pick of those guys. Men with male coded niche hob…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/24 07:19 PM
1	What is more important, status or money? Your boyfriend has some amount of status that you're overlooking. He obviously has enough of a baseline level of social status that you don't feel embarrassed by him around your friends and family. For example you could have found him attractive because he was the funniest guy in his friend group and whenever he says something witty everyone laughs. Or he has an authoritative quality and when he speaks everyone listens. In my opinion there's really no way that status doesn't affect both of you s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 09:32 PM
35	A lot of people on this sub have no conception of how attraction works and I think that’s actively hurting them People who are attractive can succeed and struggle in dating Of course, hotter people have it easier when it comes to getting attention So looks are important. And no, dating isn’t similar to sales. It has similarities So it's not similar but it is similar? if you’re fun, enjoyable and can show some level of competency. Attraction is often far more complex than some checklist Writes a checklist of prerequisites and then in the next sentence says it's not about a checklist. This is some peak PPD …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 07:15 PM
2	What is more important, status or money? Nothing like that, we're in the same social circle and know a lot of the same people but had never met. The specifics don't really matter, I could give a ton of examples. A guy who is an obscure but celebrated indie comic artist can meet a girl who is a big fan and works in a comic shop, and when they go to comicon together she's impressed that people are asking for his autograph. A man who is an acclaimed chef can meet a woman who is a food critic who already admired his restaurant and is impre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 01:01 AM
1	What is more important, status or money? So as a man, in my experience it matters a ton. If a man has status within a particular sphere, he'll attract the type of woman who is interested in that and she can be out of his league looks wise compared to if he was a random nobody. So it doesn't really matter if it's not all women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 12:40 AM
2	What is more important, status or money? You can convey status on a dating app if you have it. I met my GF on an app and she already knew who I was before we met.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/24 11:49 PM
4	What is more important, status or money? No, it's a universal thing that happens to be contextual. All women are attracted to status, but what kind of man is considered high status in her world varies. If she's a painter in a big city it might be a painter who is more famous or a gallery owner. If she's in a small town maybe it's guy who owns the local car dealerships and does a ton of charity work in town and everyone knows him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/24 11:47 PM
2	What is more important, status or money? The respect and admiration of other men and women for the things you have accomplished and what you've made of yourself. It's essentially fame and notoriety with the recognition that there can be small levels of status like the captain of a football team or a singer in a local band.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/24 11:42 PM
–	POSTS WITH AFFIRMATIVE CLAIMS AND LOADED QUESTIONS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE" POST FLAIR APPRECIATION DAILY MEGATHREAD Happens to me maybe once a year (mid 40s m). If you spend a lot of time in places like bars it's more common. Cold approach in public in the daytime is rarer but it's happened to me a handful of times. Would not consider myself a chad at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 01:09 AM
1	The effort it takes to keep your partner attracted vs the effort of finding a new partner No if she was higher value then she could attract somebody better. She chose him because he was her best option at that time. She feels like she's settling based on maybe some past casual flings, what she feels like she deserves, or by comparing him to her friends partners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 01:03 AM
1	The effort it takes to keep your partner attracted vs the effort of finding a new partner It's not about massively leveling up but it's about a guy who seems to have promising career opportunities but they never pan out and she gets dissatisfied with him. Or he's cute but dresses poorly and she thinks she can change him but it never quite works and she gets tired of him. Or he could lose a few pounds and she tries to cook him healthier food but he never gets in better shape. Nobody's perfect. Most people make at least minor compromises and settle for their best option. But if a man a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 12:58 AM
0	The effort it takes to keep your partner attracted vs the effort of finding a new partner Because she's who I could attract when I was just the way I was. If I dramatically improve myself in various ways I'll start to get more attention from other women. So she thinks she wants and deserves that but doesn't really think through the implications. The whole system hinges on men being either loyal or lazy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 12:39 AM
3	The effort it takes to keep your partner attracted vs the effort of finding a new partner That's the bind I'm talking about. As a guy you might as well be constantly improving yourself as if you were single. But that's bad for women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/24 07:45 PM
0	The effort it takes to keep your partner attracted vs the effort of finding a new partner That growing, morphing, and changing that you mention takes effort, mostly expected from the man. Keeping things fresh and interesting, not stagnating, and not being boring. You wouldn't care as much about Taylor Swift if she hadn't released anything new since Red, right? Or if her work went downhill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/24 07:44 PM
1	Most Blue Pill men are just “sneaky fuckers” practicing sexual mimicry. No, I think it's different. Sneaky fuckers would be pretty boys who do feminine things like wear eyeliner or be really emo. I've never been super masculine, have always been friends with lots of women and have always done well with women without being the hyper macho redpill type. But blue pill is different. That's just normie guys who don't understand women, aren't friends with them, and don't have any overlapping interests or hobbies with them. Guys on tinder with fishing pics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 06:58 PM
3	Is it fair to say something about a woman existing as a self-sufficient relatively accomplished adult turns off many men even if she's a kind beautiful woman? He sounds like a loser. No way is that every guy though if you're dating in a big blue state city.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 11:32 PM
5	Is it fair to say something about a woman existing as a self-sufficient relatively accomplished adult turns off many men even if she's a kind beautiful woman? That tweet is obviously stupid but so is this myth that men are intimidated by successful women. Some men might be. Maybe it's where you live. But obviously there are liberal feminist guys who would have no problem with it and plenty of men who would love a partner who makes a ton of money. Any successful woman who finds that every man she dates is "intimidated" by her success is either picking the wrong guys (like choosing a more trad working class guy because he's more attractive) or is making…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 11:22 PM
2	Dating Simplified: People's best match are other people in the same (similar) profession! Women want to date up so if you have the exact same job as her you'll need to make it up with some other quality. So it's a bad strategy for men. You can deny hypergamy till you're blue in the face but the bottom line is that you're going to be a more attractive partner if you have a job that's impressive to her and that she can proudly tell her friends and family about and they'll be impressed too. If you just do the same thing as her then that's not impressive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/24 07:51 PM
5	The idea that women are naturally not attracted to most men or that they naturally have a weaker sex drive is nonsense. Women don't hook up with men who are tall, physically fit, intelligent, charismatic, and successful?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 12:37 AM
31	The idea that women are naturally not attracted to most men or that they naturally have a weaker sex drive is nonsense. You're the one who brought up nature, evolution and the animal kingdom. Among apes for example, many males don't reproduce, and a small percentage of the top males father all of the children. https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2017/07/10/In-bonobo-communities-just-a-few-males-monopolize-reproduction/3531499718904/ And we see a similar thing among humans, long before Bernays and the type of modern social conditioning you're talking about https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success Yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 12:36 AM
44	The idea that women are naturally not attracted to most men or that they naturally have a weaker sex drive is nonsense. If you're talking about nature and evolution then you don't want women to be attracted to all men and just reproduce willy nilly. They need to be attracted to the fittest, strongest men with the best genes. Doesn't dna evidence show that the majority of men didn't reproduce in the past? This isn't a modern social conditioning, it's how things have always been. Aren't there plenty of animal species where many of the males never reproduce?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 11:57 PM
2	Relationship expert says men shouldn't date if they're broke nice work if you can get it. She got it by finding a guy who is willing to pay for everything and let her play influencer all day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:17 PM
14	Relationship expert says men shouldn't date if they're broke She doesn't want to do housework, she just wants him to pay for everything so she can stay at home full time and work on her relationship influencer grift.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:14 PM
2	Relationship expert says men shouldn't date if they're broke I liked this part She said: "A woman adds value to a man immediately - when a man has a good woman next to him, it signals he has something to keep her and increases his attractiveness. So the way a woman adds value to my life is by making me more attractive to other women. LOL. Priceless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:12 PM
8	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD The idea that looks are subjective is one of the biggest lies people here try to tell. I could go into more detail about why looks are obviously not subjective but instead I want to share my theory as to how other subjective elements of overall attraction work and why they give the illusion that looks are subjective. Overall attraction is an equation that works like this: 1: Objective facial beauty. This is the total pool of attractive people and it's a range from cute to hot. At the bottom end …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 12:22 AM
2	Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck? I'm not attacking a strawman, I'm debunking actual incorrect claims that multiple people have made on this thread. I made several posts simply copying and pasting verifiable historical FACTS and was downvoted for it each time! Of course all of what you say is true but it isn't the whole picture. States like CA had laws guaranteeing equality much earlier than that federal law, so yeah there were probably some backwards southern states that had to be dragged into the 20th century. Reading RBG's wi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/24 11:06 PM
-1	Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck? I think it's sad that a lot of young american feminist women seem to believe that women were forbidden from having bank accounts in the US until the '60s or '70s when that simply isn't true. They hear about the equal credit opportunity act of 74 which prevented discrimination on a federal level but assume that meant that all women in the US were completely barred from owning credit cards until that time. Elsewhere right in this thread a woman said "It was only in the 60's that US women were allo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/24 08:24 PM
5	Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck? In 1848, New York State passed a law that gave married women the right to own their own property. Every single other state followed suit over the next 52 years, with similar laws on the books across the country by 1900. 1862: First state allows women to open bank accounts regardless of marital status. That’s right. Alllll the way back in 1862, California became the first state to pass a law that explicitly allowed women to open a bank account in their own names — regardless of marital status. So…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/24 07:40 PM
0	Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck? In 1848, New York State passed a law that gave married women the right to own their own property. Every single other state followed suit over the next 52 years, with similar laws on the books across the country by 1900. 1862: First state allows women to open bank accounts regardless of marital status. That’s right. Alllll the way back in 1862, California became the first state to pass a law that explicitly allowed women to open a bank account in their own names — regardless of marital status. So…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/24 07:38 PM
-2	Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck? What they didn’t always have was the legal right to keep and manage their own capital, In 1848, New York State passed a law that gave married women the right to own their own property. Every single other state followed suit over the next 52 years, with similar laws on the books across the country by 1900. 1862: First state allows women to open bank accounts regardless of marital status. That’s right. Alllll the way back in 1862, California became the first state to pass a law that explicitly all…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/24 07:35 PM
4	What is your idea of an action that is ABOVE the "bare minimum"? Whatever it is you do for her that’s the bare minimum. Do more. Now that’s the new bare minimum. Do even more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 09:45 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Attractive women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 03:18 AM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Imagine thinking an iPhone is some kind of bank breaking expense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 03:18 AM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread There are a million other similar “does he get it” prerequisites but yeah as a woman you obviously can’t imagine because you don’t date women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 03:17 AM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Broken screen that’s several gens old is definitely an acceptable look though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 03:13 AM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Women don’t care about “posers” that’s guy shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 03:12 AM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Imagine being such a stubborn nerd that you find out all you need to do to get laid is switch to an iPhone like a normal person and you still won’t do it because of “bEtTeR sPEcS” or whatever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 02:10 AM
2	Are most men "low quality"? If so, why? Yes, look around. Most men are out of shape, lazy and lack ambition, spend most of their time playing video games or passively consuming entertainment, and have basic tastes and interests, dress like shit, and lack any sense of excitement or standing out in any way. Because of this, the small minority of impressive men have lots of options, can lock down the best women easily, or just sleep around, play the field, and "spin plates" endlessly without ever having to commit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/24 07:36 PM
–	You are responsible for providing evidence for your ideas, it's not on others to find that evidence for you. My point is that OP is making a claim without producing any evidence, undermining the entire point of his post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/24 03:00 AM
–	You are responsible for providing evidence for your ideas, it's not on others to find that evidence for you. What possible evidence could I offer for how something seems to me? You said "the "burden of proof" is always on the person making the claim. In this sub, that usually means the one who made the original post is the one who needs to provide citations, data, or even anecdotes that support their assertion." Just because something is in a sidebar or a book doesn't make it evidence, per se. I didn't say it was evidence, I said it was free and therefore not a grift. And I specifically composed this p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/24 03:00 AM
–	You are responsible for providing evidence for your ideas, it's not on others to find that evidence for you. The Red Pill world seems to me to be full of grifters looking to take advantage of our poor knowledge of science Where's your evidence or proof of this? The Red Pill was a subreddit which was free to use and which encouraged people to read a whole sidebar of free information plus an outside blog or two and a few books that are easy to find as free pdfs. Where's the grift? It was just regular guys sharing their personal experiences.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/24 01:58 AM
-2	Would you leave a man you love if he refused to marry you? It wasn't all that long ago that women couldn't vote, own property, or have a bank account. In the US women have been able to vote nationwide for 104 years (earlier in some places), own property for 185 years, and to have a bank account going back to the colonial era. https://femmefrugality.com/myth-busting-womens-banking/	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/24 09:25 PM
0	California Online Dating Safety Act: Thoughts My point being that despite the fact that CA is majority dem and the state hasn't gone red since Reagan, Southern California has been the source of some major and influential strains of far right thinking and influence that run all the way from the Nixon years, through the Bush and Trump administrations via people like Roger Stone and ultimately major Trump figures like Bannon and Miller. These people are not RINOs. No idea about the guy proposing this bill but it looks like he represents Bakers…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/24 11:16 PM
0	California Online Dating Safety Act: Thoughts no such thing in Ca, they are called in RINOs Haha, people like Reagan, Nixon, Halderman, Segretti, Steve Bannon, or Stephen Miller might disagree. Never heard of the central valley? Orange County?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/24 08:39 PM
–	Why do some people bend over backwards to find excuses for everything women do? You can shoot a 15 year old kid in the back of the head on video, get convicted of voluntary manslaughter, and have the female judge give you probation and community service. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Latasha_Harlins	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 08:32 PM
0	If someone is content being single, then their standards can be as high as they want If they have high standards and complain about not finding people, then yeah that's worthy of criticism. But that's the reality. They're not happy and they do complain.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/24 11:43 PM
2	Debate : People dont understand that Money and status makes you GENUINELY more sexually attractive as a Man. Status yes, money no. Think of it this way, a not so attractive rock star can get lots of easy casual sex because his status makes him actually attractive to women and they're not just trying to marry him and get his money. But some unattractive but wealthy nerd doesn't have the same advantage because the money alone isn't sexually attractive, the status is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 08:47 PM
4	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD That's over 20 years old, before hookup culture was a buzzword and before dating apps existed. And it's a ridiculously large age range that literally includes children. Almost half of the people are married. The real question should be what the numbers are for sexually active singles who are actively dating. If you look at the data for women who are never married and not cohabiting on page 20, you'll see that 23% of them had sex with 2 or more partners in a year, 11.5% had 3 or more. The 40% or …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/24 08:49 PM
1	Debate : Majority off Promiscous Women didn‘t want to be promiscous, they just had a bad gameplan and got played and pump and dumped often. That's literally what TRP describes. Women have fun sleeping around with or even dating hot bad boys who have lots of options and aren't really serious about them and then they're surprised when none of them commit long term and they're single in their late '30s wondering how tf they're going to start a family.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/24 12:31 AM
–	“Hook-up culture“ is mostly a myth, the vast majority of women have fewer than 10 sexual partners in their entire adult lives. The answer is right in your title, that IS hookup culture. Most people aren’t in 10 serious LTRs before marriage, that’s a lot! Maybe 3 or 4 tops, so that’s 6 or 7 hookups. Basically double the amount of hookups as relationships which makes sense. That’s a couple of casual flings in between each relationship. And of course the average is brought down by people who get married young or never have sex. It’s much higher for attractive sexually active people who have spent more time single.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/24 08:12 PM
3	Is asking out a friend only going to ruin your friendship if you're not attractive? I’ve never “asked out” a friend. I’ve slept with friends and that has led to a relationship before. But you’re already friends, you already know each other, you don’t need to go on a weird formal “getting to know you” date. The only question is whether or not she wants to sleep with you so you might as well cut to the chase. Do you have experience with women? Can you tell if a woman is attracted to you or not? Can you flirt and tell when she’s flirting? If not then don’t ask a friend out on a da…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/24 03:12 AM
2	(fixed flair) It's easier for women to get laid, but they're much less likely to be satisfied with the experience It’s easier for women to get _______ but when they do they’re not satisfied with it. You can fill in the blank with anything and it works.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/24 02:21 AM
5	Debate : The Bluepill doesn‘t exist anymore since around 5-10 Years. Hard disagree. I know a guy in his early 20s who is tall handsome and has money who is rushing into marriage with a girl who is not really all that and who is probably his first LTR, and who incidentally has been flirty with me. Know another young guy whose wife cheated on him and left him and he still wanted to try to make things work and go to couples counseling. Know another guy under 30 in a LTR with his HS sweetheart who he could do better than. I think deep down he knows that so he tried t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/24 01:32 AM
5	How many men here would agree to be homemakers, caregivers AND breadwinners as many married women are? Wives are the sole or primary breadwinner in only 16% of marriages in the US, and that's mostly among older demographics where the husband is presumably already retired because he's older than her. A third of married mothers in the US don't work at all. The husband is the primary or sole breadwinner in 55% of marriages. I don't know a single married couple where the husband does zero housework or child rearing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/24 09:14 PM
–	So, is talking to women at bars just… over? Part of the problem is that you're going out alone. The last time I met a woman at a bar I went there alone but I knew a lot of people there which showed social proof.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/24 09:13 PM
–	So, is talking to women at bars just… over? No, that's dumb. My grandfather cold approached my grandmother in the 30s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/24 09:11 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread I don’t see why you would unless having your life together and accomplishing something interesting is somehow bougie. I think of bougie as meaning the rich dentist with the Tesla the country club membership and the kids in private school.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/23 10:21 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread The men I know like this are definitely the winners. It’s nothing like passport bros but you obviously haven’t seen it firsthand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/23 10:20 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread See you’re not getting it. He’s not some American beauty style midlife crisis cliche with a motorcycle. He’s just a man that’s actually accomplished things and built a life that’s interesting and attractive and which puts him above every 25 year old who is playing video games and smoking weed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/23 10:18 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Why would he marry her? The guys I know like this have no problem going through a string of young beautiful women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/23 10:17 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread I think there are a lot of misconceptions around big age gaps. Most people are basic, boring, and have no interests outside of whatever mainstream popular culture is aimed at their generation. And most people are lazy and don't have the drive to continue to grow and learn throughout life, so even some people who are a little bit cool in their teens or 20s get complacent and slide into boring old age. I think when most women picture an older man they're thinking of a stereotypical middle aged sub…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/23 08:15 PM
–	Women hate age gap relationships because they are scared of being tossed aside in favour of young women when men date younger women they tend to do so because they can’t pull anyone their own age. That makes zero sense. there’s a massive power differential usually as well I date men 10-20 years younger than myself. There’s no funny games or power differential "It's fine when I do it" lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 09:19 PM
5	Q4W: Women only dance clubs. Genius idea? I don't know what you mean by "by a lot" but lesbian clubs are actually very rare and a lot of them shut down during the pandemic. There are a bunch of articles about the phenomenon. One says "Back in the 1980s and 1990s, there were upwards of 200 bars that catered to lesbian, bisexual, and queer women across the United States; now, there are an estimated 21 lesbian bars left." which is pretty crazy! That should illustrate that an all-women bar or club would most likely be a financial failure if…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/23 01:27 AM
18	Q4W: Women only dance clubs. Genius idea? https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8HNwQfM/ Translation: "stop hitting on my friends, it makes me jealous that nobody hits on me"	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/23 01:14 AM
1	Does anyone else think flirting is so embarrassing? If you are already confident with the other person you dont need to flirt, Yes you do. You need to flirt even if you've been married for decades. Not knowing how to flirt is how you end up as platonic friends with a woman who doesn't think about you in a sexual way at all. On the other hand if you are trying to break the ice your feeling is not reciprocated and that's where the cringe comes from. So you just have a crippling fear of rejection and are probably high in neuroticism. This is describ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/23 11:28 PM
6	Does anyone else think flirting is so embarrassing? None of that is at all an accurate description of flirting. Are you thinking of corny pickup lines or something? Flirting is just having a fun conversation with someone you share a mutual attraction with and you’re both laughing and having a good time and getting to know each other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 11:30 PM
–	The Hottest Women Are MILFS Did you even read it? "The study supports previous evidence that women who have had more pregnancies are more susceptible to certain illnesses and have slightly shorter life spans. Earlier this year, researchers from George Mason University found that childbirth could age a woman by as many as 11 years." Now you're talking about during pregnancy? That's a temporary 9 month period, we're talking what happens after.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 09:54 PM
–	The Hottest Women Are MILFS You know her as in you slept with her? Or you've seen her with everything squished into place with contouring clothing?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 09:21 PM
–	The Hottest Women Are MILFS I'm talking women in their 30s, not 45-50. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/having-a-baby-can-age-you https://www.skincarebyalana.com/blogs/skincare/help-just-baby-feel-like-look-10-years-older https://nypost.com/2018/02/27/having-children-ages-a-woman-faster-than-smoking-and-being-overweight/ https://draesthetica.co.uk/skincare/face-has-changed-from-pregnancy/ https://www.kidspot.com.au/parenting/feeling-old-having-children-apparently-ages-you-by-11-years/news-story/ae7300ea8a624920d8bfd6…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 09:19 PM
–	The Hottest Women Are MILFS So you admit you've never had a kid, never been with a woman before, during, and after pregnancy, and therefore have no actual experience with the topic?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 09:17 PM
–	The Hottest Women Are MILFS From personal experience, it absolutely can cause sagging, particularly if the mother is older and has less collagen than she did in her 20s. It's like any other form of gaining and losing weight. They get bigger when breastfeeding and then shrink back down.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 09:15 PM
–	The Hottest Women Are MILFS There are lots of different articles you can search for. I just picked one randomly and read the first paragraph. Childbirth absolutely can affect aging in some women, not necessarily all. It seems pretty clear that's what it's saying. I don't know anyone who had more than 3 kids so that's kind of a moot point to me. And like I said I'm talking about women who are in shape and not fat. And couples tend to have similar lifestyles so that's not a factor. When the wife's face ages dramatically in a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 09:12 PM
–	The Hottest Women Are MILFS Getting comfortable and lazy doesn't change your whole face. I know these women are healthy and active because I see them jogging around the neighborhood or I know them personally and know they eat well, and they're not fat. It's just sometimes a woman's face changes. You can look it up, google face change after pregnancy. There are major hormonal shifts during pregnancy, breastfeeding, and postpartum, and then imagine going through those back to back 2 or 3 times close together. There can be pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 08:47 PM
–	The Hottest Women Are MILFS I live in an area with a lot of young upper middle class couples and a lot of attractive people. And I've seen a ton of newlyweds before and after having a couple of kids. For a lot of women, I would say most women, it changes them and they are nowhere near as attractive after. It often ages their face a decade while their husband still looks the same as before. I think the effect is especially pronounced when they have kids post 30, and especially with multiple kids back to back. A woman who ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 07:40 PM
42	Does anyone else think flirting is so embarrassing? Do women like flirting? Yes of course they do if they're attracted to you. Are there relationships that were formed because of it? Yep.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 07:37 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread No definitely don’t marry. But you don’t necessarily have to run either. Do you live together? Stop taking her on trips and paying for things. Pull back, have your own life going on without her and maybe start seeing other women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 10:34 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Link? There is no historical proof from Jesus time that he existed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 10:32 PM
1	Are most women demisexual? That's normal, depending on things like attraction, libido, and age. When I'm in a sexually satisfying relationship with someone I'm wildly attracted to and in love with, I'm not thinking of anybody else. A 13 year old boy might immediately get aroused when he sees a picture of a nude woman but a sexually experienced older man might not. The difference is experience, exposure, hormones, and libido, not some alternate sexual identity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 08:46 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread I'm not an expert, but the way I understand it is roughly this. In the '60s in California there was a patient rights movement because lots of mentally ill people were basically imprisoned in horrible abusive mental hospitals and forced to take mind numbing meds, and so policies were eased up which made it much harder to institutionalize the mentally ill. Then over the decades, laws against recreational drug use were loosened up a lot. Weed has become legal across much of the country and as a res…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 07:32 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Agreed, just trying to point out some of the history and context for the people who are saying "just build more housing".	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 07:19 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread It's absolutely different. The people on the street in Los Angeles don't want to go to the shelter if drugs, alcohol, and pets aren't allowed. How do you force mentally ill people to take meds against their will without essentially imprisoning them in a mental hospital? Should mental illness be a crime? It's complicated. If you think there are lots of "mentally stable" people living on the streets in major west coast cities in the US, you have no idea about the scope of the problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 07:09 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Consent is the whole issue basically. Republicans like to blame the homeless epidemic on "democratic policies" but those policies are essentially, is it a crime to be mentally ill? Should somebody be imprisoned in a mental hospital for being schizophrenic? Should someone who is mentally ill be forced to take psychiatric meds against their will? Should someone be put in prison for personal recreational drug use? Should someone be put in jail for not having a place to live? Has the war on drugs be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 07:04 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread What if they don't want to be forced into a shelter because there's no drugs, alcohol, or pets allowed?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 06:48 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread What if they refuse?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 06:48 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread How do you force someone into a shelter if they prefer to live on the street?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 06:47 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread The way I understand it is this: should it be a crime to sleep outdoors? It's a basic human function and human right to sleep. What if you're lying on a blanket in the park on a sunny day and doze off? What if you're driving home late at night from a long day at work and find yourself getting sleepy and pull over to take a nap? The problem is that vagrancy laws then become a judgement call, so the white guy in a suit and Tesla pulling over to nap is fine, but the black woman napping in between t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 06:47 PM
3	Are most women demisexual? I thought I should learn more about it so I googled “demisexual is just low libido” and found a discussion where a demisexual person said they get horny and aroused by porn but not by real life people. Lol. So there’s not even any solid consistent definition for what it actually means. It’s just high inhibition low libido people or young inexperienced people who want to feel like they have some kind of special lgbtq+ identity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 04:32 AM
1	Are most women demisexual? No. Animalistic sex with a stranger can be fun but it’s not something that everyone enjoys and it’s not something most people go into zero to sixty when they’re not already sexually experienced. Sex with someone you’re highly attracted to who you also have a deep emotional connection with is always better. That’s just normal. It ties into whether someone is high or low inhibition but it’s not some kind of special separate sexual identity. A lot of people who claim it probably just have never met…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 03:07 AM
1	Are most women demisexual? Porn is not sex. Some people don’t like casual sex and that’s fine but it’s not some kind of unique sexuality. It probably just means they’re high inhibition, high disgust, or haven’t had the opportunity with an attractive enough person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 03:02 AM
2	Are most women demisexual? No demisexual is not a real thing. Or rather to the degree that it is real it’s just something normal that is true for most people, not some kind of unique sexuality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 12:12 AM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread “Everyone knows what conventional beauty is” Well there you go, that’s what ratings are. It’s not your personal taste.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/23 02:04 AM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread You should be able to separate your personal tastes from objective standards of beauty. If someone finds Asian men unattractive they should refrain from commenting in that situation. But I think a lot of women don’t think that way. If a woman doesn’t like beards you can put a beard on the most objectively handsome 10/10 man and she’ll say “well to me he’s a zero because I don’t like beards”. Which is ridiculous and dishonest. I think septum piercings are gross and ugly but if I see a beautiful w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 11:13 PM
–	Why are men more similar in most countries, and women are not? Is it due to varying levels of patriarchy? I barely know who he is and have no idea why he has followers but he's a completely fringe nobody who is only well known now because of his arrest. I looked it up and before he was banned from instagram he only had like 4 million followers which is really not much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 08:38 PM
–	Why are men more similar in most countries, and women are not? Is it due to varying levels of patriarchy? I don't think that's true at all. Men around the world are very different. I think in the US it would be very uncommon to see an american woman married to a man from a culture that's considered to be typically very patriarchal, traditional, or full of machismo. But the opposite is very common and there are plenty of american men married to foreign women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/23 07:20 PM
2	Friendzone and dating advice: the elefant in the room that I haven't seen adressed No, it's not different women, it's different men. If she thinks you're hot she's going to stay attracted to you as long as you don't do something dumb that shows an unattractive behavior. No amount of exposure is going to ruin her attraction to you. I had a fwb who I had been friends with for a couple of years first, and a LTR with a woman I had been friends and coworkers with for about 4 years before we slept together. They were both obviously attracted to me the whole time they knew me. Conver…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 07:56 PM
0	Daily Community Chat Megathread Thanks for the downvote. What a strange post to take issue with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 03:18 AM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread Ironic that you see the zone with no real rules as the "sanctuary" and acknowledge that the main sub with all of its byzantine rules is pure shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 03:16 AM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread Only certain on-topic discussions that aren't put in the weekly thread ghetto. And oops, sorry it sounds like you have an opinion, so that can't be a "discussion" it has to be a "cmv" even though we don't actually enforce any real debating rules like the actual cmv sub. Oh wait, wrong "flair" sorry your post is deleted and it has to go under some bizarre "automod" wall of text. Write up a long, well thought out argument? Sorry you used a word that triggered some kind of censorship filter but we'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 03:13 AM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread Anyone else think that the daily chat should be on-topic only? There are way too many people using it like a personal blog. Posting new threads is pretty much useless with all of the arbitrary rules, strict filter, major relevant topics that are quarantined into weekly threads that get almost no engagement, and long gaps where the mods apparently don't let any new posts through. The daily chat seems like the only useful place to have an actual discussion but it's flooded with "dear diary" bullsh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 03:00 AM
-1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Met mine on Tinder and I think we're well matched.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 02:56 AM
2	Do you think there are more men willing to be house husbands or more women will to have house husbands? You’ve clearly never lived with a woman. Just read the thread and see all of the women saying that men wouldn’t be able to do it to the standard necessary and that they would just play video games all day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 09:36 PM
3	Do you think there are more men willing to be house husbands or more women will to have house husbands? The thing is that all of the other gender dynamics won't have changed. What do you make the kids for breakfast and lunch, what groceries should you buy, how clean should the house be, what chores need to be done, what errands need to be run, what after school activities should the kids be doing? These will all still be dictated by her and he will be expected to perform to her standards. So it's not at all equal. He can't just do things however he wants to like a SAHM can. Plus she's going to fee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 08:43 PM
13	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD This thread that reached the front page a couple of days ago is the perfect example of why you can't have a rational discussion about looks with women. You would think we could discuss mens faces, are they handsome or ugly, but the vast majority of the comments are about style, grooming, does he wash his ass, or what his hands look like. One woman mentions finding a man attractive until he opened his mouth. So you didn't like him, fine, but he still has the same attractive face, it didn't sudden…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 08:03 PM
14	Watching people be unaware of their type is funny. That’s a lot of words to say “attractive women”. Yes men want to date beautiful women, what a shock. Funny how much you shit on men for associating with “bad women” but you’re friends with a drug addict who dates pimps and kidnappers!?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 03:42 PM
–	In a house with no kids and where the man is at work from 7am - 5pm, what daily tasks do women do around the house Only 58% of married women in the US work so yeah “most” do but plenty don’t. https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/womens-databook/2020/home.htm#:~:text=Never%2Dmarried%20women%20had%20the,married%20women%20(58.6%20percent).	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 03:36 PM
17	60% of Millennial women are already nearly infertile. And 80% of childless women regret not having kids. Is this why more women are crying on TikTok than ever before? “About 20% of women in the U.S. now have their first child after age 35.“ https://newsinhealth.nih.gov/2022/07/having-kids-later-life	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/23 10:15 PM
55	60% of Millennial women are already nearly infertile. And 80% of childless women regret not having kids. Is this why more women are crying on TikTok than ever before? Lol 35 is not “an established cutoff”. The oldest millennials are 43. There are probably vanishingly few millennials who have even started menopause yet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/23 09:12 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread In general most people, most of the time, are dating 1 person. No lots of people aren't dating anyone. If you take two men and two women, year one man A and woman A date, man B is single and lonely, woman B is happy single. Year 2, man A and woman B date, and woman A is happy being single, man B is still miserable being single. That's a simple example of a situation where one man monopolizes two women while the other has none, and the women are happier being single than settling for man B. It ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/23 10:08 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread In any given group, "jocks" for instance, those 100 guys could all be part of the top 20%, so it's completely realistic that all the attractive guys find attractive women. Again, niches are an entirely different unrelated topic. But the niche would have to include all of the regular guys who are just fans of the sport, you can't only count the top men but count all of the women. Imagine a football game and you're counting the guys on the field and all of the cheerleaders plus all of the women in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/23 09:09 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Niches are an entirely different topic. You're just magically inventing extra attractive women. In a particular niche if there are 100 attractive men and 100 attractive women and the majority of those women go after the hottest 10 men then the men at the bottom of the cutoff for attractiveness will still lose out. But if you could somehow identify a niche that was full of beautiful women and ugly men, sure you could probably exploit those odds to have better success. For simplicity of discussion…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/23 08:47 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Not really because there could still be different segments for women with different tastes. There could be the top 20% of jocks being chased by a majority of basic sorority girls and the top 20% of arty alt guys being chased by alt women, and so on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/23 08:19 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Where did I say that it's a problem? I'm just describing reality. Women here say there are no chad harems, 80/20 rule isn't real, and things like that. I'm just showing how an imbalance can happen in a more subtle way. It's obviously a problem for that middle tier of guy who is struggling and the only solution is for men to improve themselves and try to become the top 20% guy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/23 08:17 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread I think women here underestimate how much serial monogamy coupled with womens' high standards creates a dynamic that's basically like a "soft harem". The top 20% of the most attractive desirable men have lots of options so even if they're willing to commit to a monogamous relationship, they might get bored easily and quickly move onto the next woman. Say these relationships last six months on average and the average top tier guy dates only two women a year but the women are happy being single fo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/23 07:38 PM
2	If we assume that 20/80 rule is true, how would u describe the top 20% guy (in early 20s)? Status is just about fame or micro fame within a social circle. It's not about your job. Cops aren't high status lol. And young women absolutely are attracted to high status guys even if they're broke. It's not about beta bux. A star college quarterback is going to do fine with women even if he's kind of funny looking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/23 07:28 PM
0	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. It's the first thing he says in the subject line "immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men". Womens sexuality was shamed for thousands of years and now they've decided collectively that they dgaf and men shaming them isn't going to have any effect anymore. They have each others backs. Male shaming doesn't matter to attractive and sexually successful men either it's just meant to keep losers in their place. This is just typical incel whining about "can't approach women anywhere anymo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:14 AM
1	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. How can an unattractive man be a player? Makes no sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 12:23 AM
6	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. EVERY male celebrity? LOL come on it's nowhere near even 20%. There are a lot of celebrities. The men irl I know who have people talking about their bad behavior still do well with women. Men who tend to be sexually successful with women and who are players can also push boundaries too much and get themselves into trouble, and some are cheaters and people talk. But it really doesn't seem to affect their success with women. Men who are paranoid about getting cancelled over approaching women or wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 11:56 PM
24	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. In my experience "immoral sexual behavior" in men is also completely excused and overlooked. Look at any celebrity with serious allegations and they pretty much always still have a hot girlfriend or a wife who stayed with them. In real life I know men who are known cheaters and players and that doesn't hurt their chances with women at all. If anything it helps. The public shaming is just virtue signaling, women don't actually care.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 08:59 PM
1	Men are looking for casual sex and fwbs whether you want to hear it or not. Of course men want sex, but there are also different kinds of men looking for different things. If a man has never had a girlfriend and is really lonely and feels like he's missing out then those are the men who say "all I want is a girlfriend". Someone else who just got out of a bad relationship might just be looking to sleep around casually for a while. But in between that there are men who would like a relationship and are looking for one but it between finding it they take what they can get.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 12:36 AM
1	Would you agree that body language signs dont mean anything ? yea i didnt make a move or flirt much on the dates (1. nerves 2.i lived with parents so didnt see a point) but i did go for kiss at the end with lots of them and most did kiss me but still ghosted I've seen some guys recommend not to go for a kiss if the first date doesn't end in sex. The thinking is that it breaks some of the sexual tension. But more importantly since you already kissed on the first date she's going to be thinking that you're expecting sex on the second, and that puts too much …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 12:29 AM