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Do women not make comments about ugly men's looks if they happen to disagree with or dislike them? Actually in today's depraved online environment it doesn't matter what you look like, there will be haters calling 10s ugly bc they want to be mean. If the woman in the video was attractive the men would just say things like "sub 5" or "let's see her without makeup."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:18 AM
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I don't doubt there are manosphere bros deep in the closet but it's just one of those things where the two groups share common surface-level traits but are obvi really different. Gay men are understandably drawn to the male form as are manosphere guys, many autistic, obsessed with manliness, dick size or looks as they are insecure and want to measure up, figuratively and literally. Cue then the comments from detractors "Looks like you want Chad more than women do...herherher". Nobody calls women…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:08 AM
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I am socially connected to many people in a big city and it's clear most young women are either spoken for or actively dating, judging from real life interactions, pictures, etc. Looking at the other responses to my question the trend also seems to be that most women they know are in relationships. I don't think it's a stretch to say if most women you know are single perhaps there's something unique about your situation or circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:18 AM
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Loyal, caring, hardworking. I expect the same of myself or a good husband. Everything else like humor or intelligence I consider a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:16 AM
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The shrieking leftist america sucks fascism crowd has definitely been putting in overtime on the site as of late and that says a lot. Must be terrible to wake up every morning so upset at everything 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:15 AM
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Since this sounds so hard to believe for me from everything I've ever observed and experienced (and yet I believe you) I'm curious if you can tell if there's anything specific or different about your social circles, or do you see them as normal or conventional etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:09 AM
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I went up to visit a friend in Seattle once and he took me to a place like a restaurant that completely revolved around a board game atmosphere. Grown men and women would go there dressed in alt clothing to play board games while ordering dinner at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:21 AM
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You sound like a lot of people I know who were born in SoCal and moved up to the PNW to play DnD and then everyone there saw that they looked just like the locals bc you weren't a bronzed meathead or barbie type and they were like "hm you don't strike me as from San Diego or LA" and they'd be like "yeah that's why I'm here."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:10 AM
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Sounds like Montreal or Toronto lol I'd guess NY but you said North America instead of US
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:00 AM
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Yea most women don't do casual much but my observation is if they aren't in a relationship they are probably doing casual and voluntarily not dating or fucking long term seems to be the least likely circumstance by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:57 PM
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In a densely populated area, left-leaning, right-leaning, socioeconomic trends, cost of living? Anyway, just curious. Big city could mean anything lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:55 PM
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That sounds so alien to me. Without disclosing your location what type of area do you live in. Edit some triggered ass 4b women in here x)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:52 PM
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I can think of maybe one woman I know who isn't dating or fucking regularly, and I know a lot of people. She has dated men before though, we're friendly acquaintances but I'm not about to ask why or like "are you tired of men or something".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:50 PM
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Q4A: Of the women you know in your life, social circles, acquaintances etc, close or not, how many of them are under 30 and have been single or sans FWB, casual etc for over 6 months?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:43 PM
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Very few young women are single or not temporarily between relationships. I don't see this rampant singleness at all to the point where it makes me wonder if these surveys are targeting isolated weird demos of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:34 PM
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I honestly don't think I live in an exceptional bubble, but I'm not in the UK so who knows. Almost all young women I know are dating but I suppose just bc you're dating it doesn't mean you can't feel lonely. Maybe it shouldn't be surprising since our interactions are so shallow and low(er) in quality these days. "There is still a prevailing sense that whatever young women are thinking or feeling, it doesn’t matter very much." LOL sry what? Read some articles or go outside. Again, maybe it's bc I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:15 PM
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How is this puzzling to you? Obviously men who struggle with dating are overwhelmingly more likely to be terminally online and seek solace in pill communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:49 PM
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She looks around early 30s. She has crow's feet but 40 year olds have significantly more natural gauntness in the face even at regular weights.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:46 PM
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No cheating is acceptable idgaf who it is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:44 PM
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What do they say in response to the male versions of this article again...something something when you're privileged equality feels like oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:42 PM
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Be honest man, she aint ugly, but you would call her male looks counterpart average at best. You even said Mamdani was average to keep the bit going even though you think he's the hottest man alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:26 PM
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Because looks don't matter as much for men. This will never change. The whole "women actually care as much about looks as men" as some 21st century enlightenment with the advent of OLD and ubiquity of the internet will always be wrong. Even when women are drawn to a man for his looks, it's filtered through their want of status, which absolutely matters a lot. Currently due to international trends, standards, economics etc a western man in a sea of local men in a 3rd world country has higher stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:57 AM
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Do you live in a country, state or area where most people even young people are overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:31 AM
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I actually think physique helps a man with an average face way more than it helps men who are already goodlooking without the body. The latter will do well, and lifting will help them do even better. Average men will get very little off his looks alone and will go from that to a significantly larger pool of women after lifting. Physique and body are actually very underrated. As a straight man, I notice a facially attractive woman but if she's short or not esp impressive bodywise I forget about h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:29 AM
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If you have a good physique you should be able to land some decent-looking non-fat women assuming you also have baseline social skills and aren't awkward or offputting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:38 PM
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This sub is filled with these types of men who have built an entire career here rushing to women's defense and there are zero women who will do the same for men no matter how shitty the comment is against them outside of isolated instances in comment chains. Even I will defend women here if the logic calls for it. Makes you really wonder if there's something to this gynocentric society idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:39 PM
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The weirdest thing about you is that you're a gay guy but you act like a straight woman really into trolling men in gender debates but you aren't particularly nasty about it; yet since you are borderline trans anyway for what it's worth a woman with your personality would actually be less weird and more fitting. If the things you wrote belonged to a random straight woman there are worse people around. I don't doubt real gender dysphoria exists, often with autism, but I wonder how many self-ident…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:38 AM
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terachad
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:55 AM
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Might just be the area. UMC regions don't tend to have as many people who dress extremely fringe so if someone who lives here opts for that style they are probably very weird to begin with. It's considered alt here even if a white woman just dyes her hair black or wears darker lipstick.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:46 AM
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I wanted to make the distinction actually, I see quite a few attractive women dressed in alt-leaning style but more like the emo or skater type. Think e-girls or Avril Lavigne. Full-on goth is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:30 AM
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I think I've seen maybe 1 or 2 actual attractive goth women IRL ever. The "hot" goth girls are OF models, conventionally pretty women or porn stars online playing up the trope and cosplaying for clicks, money, attention etc. Probably bc actual goth women tend to be weird or fringe mentally so it plays out in their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:17 AM
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you really like the bearded cherubic babyfaced guys
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:16 AM
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She's not even bordering she isn't attractive but there are way more manlier looking cis women than that, many such cases IRL every day. Features deemed masculine on women aren't even necessarily bad, she would def look better with some more angularity and less softness, stronger brow etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:55 AM
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What, she doesn't look tranny at all, she's just average lol. Her chin is just kinda more robust like a lot of asian people. As usual per the low just-don't-be-fat bar for women, the main thing holding her back is her weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:52 AM
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Non-Asians specifically non-asian men can't distinguish between a meh asian and an attractive asian to save their life. Same deal when a white guy goes over to Asia there are people esp from backwater villages who literally can't tell the difference between some ugly rando and Tom Cruise. When you look at most cases individually it can't be explained away merely by citing differences in cultural or beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:34 AM
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He's better looking than her wym. Flaws are his head is small and he looks short (well compared to her anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:14 AM
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In any case, hope it continues to work out and that she's primarily drawn to him as a person and not simply bc he was there in her time of need. My jaded side says if she ever hits the gym or drops weight his days are numbered.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:37 AM
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LOL what if she can become "incredibly attractive" after weight loss they are in no way looksmatched. They aren't even looksmatched now, she's better looking and with as you say obvious potential bodywise. His ceiling is much more limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:30 AM
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i agree, it makes me feel more normal and NT but objectively I'm realizing being normal in this world isn't necessarily a good thing anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:27 AM
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i'm the complete opposite of a normie and i got most of the boxes except i would never go out with anyone bc of boredom i love solitude
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:50 AM
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Even if the student was underage they are more often than not willing participants in these cases. Yeah, and how is this relevant again? If the student is female the fact that she was willing makes zero difference so why would it matter if the student was male.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:31 AM
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Yes, obviously. I am attacking the logic. If you can be ambitious in golf, a sport played by many rich fat old people after they've lost their mobility or athleticism, you can be ambitious with anything else. Women dgaf about golf, they want the lifestyle and status that comes with a man who grew up with it and the type to do business deals while on the green.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:29 AM
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lol i apologize if i came off snarky, appreciate you posting the photos in good faith, wish you all the best in your journey to higher fitness and health
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:55 AM
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How can one be ambitious about golf in a way that you can't be ambitious when playing a video game, or doing anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:17 AM
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What's ambitious about golf itself? I have tons of relatives who spend a lot of time on the course lol they aren't shit they just have access to an easy life and flaunt it on social media. Again point being how "ambitious" someone is depends on the person, not the activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:14 AM
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They are literally just activities people do because they enjoy doing them. Video games can preserve and improve coordination, are immersive, require intelligence, and can potentially build community in addition to being extremely cost effective. Sports aren't better just bc they involve fitness (and esp golf, of all things) and this coming from someone who likes many sports. It's no different from skiing, model airplanes, chess, photography, painting, and honestly superior to shit like makeup, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:04 AM
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i'll try adding honey or agave next time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:59 AM
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i think i prefer greek yogurt, unless the skyr I've bought in the past was uniquely bland
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:56 AM
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Centrism is okay as long as you are proactive about learning about things and arriving at new and proprietary conclusions and not just reacting arrogantly and negatively to left and right-wing talking points. Centrists often become defined and limited by the goalposts on both ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:54 AM
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Is greek yogurt a downgrade from skyr
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:53 AM
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Unless you have some really unusual, rare or blessed genetics it's hard for me to imagine someone with a BMI of 40 having remotely aesthetic shoulders and arms although a photo would help (with the face blocked out if you want). I do agree looks aren't everything and personality matters, it's hard to tell or describe a persona without seeing it irl and there are nuances in aura women are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:32 AM
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That's what happens when ideologies go mainstream, no matter how good or sound they are on paper. The masses contain so many people who will support something for their own selfish reasons and then use all types of gaslighting and mental gymnastics to defend it. That's why it's easy to find examples of widespread terrible implementation of any system of government or religion whenever you need one handy in a debate. People are just shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:26 AM
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Hey no shade but if you're 5'7 and 250 you can't really say you take care of yourself inb4 it's a lot of muscle. That's a BMI of close to 40. LOL just got downvoted for this. How fat are the people on here srsly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:20 AM
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Reminds me of those articles expressing empathy as women get higher-paying jobs they find the number of eligible men in their pool shrinking. Like the men were fine before, but now that the women moved up, the men are no longer considerable as partners based on money and status alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:18 AM
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A billionaire wanting to marry a pretty woman isn't hypergamy. Evidence shows most powerful men don't end up with models anyway even though they certainly could find one if they wanted, which suggests men aren't hypergamous. You can find armies of attractive women willing to marry a billionaire or high status man so marketwise there is no discrepancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:05 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:37 AM
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they're all kinda pale and ratfaced with weird proportions. Finn Wolfhard and Noah Schnapp esp I found similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:22 AM
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i'm having a hard time telling the male characters apart. It's like they're weird looking but weird looking in the same way even.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:17 AM
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then it's not lowering of standards then yea? I mean I guess you should find someone attractive with no kids despite being older, I would think these men are jumping at finding a single in-shape woman in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:13 AM
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If you're young and in shape there is absolutely zero reason why you can't find a decent dude in the same demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:09 AM
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I'm just not as good of a person as you are. I prefer the "you're too stupid and wrong off the bat to be even talking about this" route.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:06 AM
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If your toilet had feelings would you rather the toilet suffer and be disgusted or enjoy it when you take fat shits?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:58 AM
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The entire symptomatic period doesn't involve bleeding throughout but hormonally it isn't uncommon for everything to last up to 10 days which is a third of their life. I know a couple women where it's even worse than that and basically it feels never-ending. In the pro-woman's camp, we should be understanding how much this would suck, and in the pro-men's camp, well this explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:55 AM
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Statistically you're much more likely to break up well before that 5-year mark anyway for whatever reasons, and if you're still together after 5 more years, I'd be like sure I guess, why the hell not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:48 AM
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Sometimes the hypocrisy is so glaring it's the first and most sensible thing to highlight when providing a rebuttal. The hypocrisy and shoddy premise(s) are so obvious you can't take them or any of their long-winded argument seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:33 AM
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It's really not that fast if they're looking to get married asap.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:37 PM
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The last one makes me think it's satire. Some people are just in a hurry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:31 PM
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"Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptable" As long as you aren't the type of woman to think men are being paranoid for being settled for as well, like a lot of other women do when gaslighting men's concerns here. E.g. "She wanted only hot guys before and now her tastes have matured, what's the problem? She's choosing you now, isn't that all that matters?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:30 PM
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"Women marry men hoping they'll change [but they won't]. Men marry women hoping they won't [but they do]."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:15 PM
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Lotta women think gaming is a stupid hobby even tho when done right it improves coordination and builds community not to mention being extremely immersive and cost effective. Then they have hobbies like makeup and fashion, binging true-crime, posting pictures of bougie food on insta at the price of an entire video game without even eating said food.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:09 PM
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It's absolutely a thing, women I run into from school say things like "I remember you were so intelligent and caring, I could tell you were always deep in thought." Like I'm flattered but wtf I was none of those things, yes there was a lot going on in my head how to get laid and what was for lunch later. I am actively trying to be more caring though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:52 PM
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When people respond to posts with whataboutism, it's usually valid here because the posts often attack the opposite gender with arguments built upon the delusional premise that their own gender doesn't have similar issues or that they aren't nearly as bad. So "We're talking about women here, not men" or vice versa doesn't work. Also we can all agree we've seen some pretty garbage takes from both men and women on PPD, but I can only name many men who jump to the rescue after donning their superhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:46 PM
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Best song in the movie. Get fucked Hakuna Matata.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:41 AM
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bc he is but in the same way a lot of villains are esp disney ones like jafar, shere khan, even the Grinch etc bring back straight-coded disney villains like Amos Slade from Fox n the Hound and Percival McLeach from Rescuers Down Under
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:37 AM
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I think women (or maybe even men) are easily influenced by things like styling when perceiving someone as 'feminine' or 'masculine'. In college there was a girl who was really into me and she said she didn't understand the appeal of a popular male celeb bc she didn't care for dumb jock himbos and instead liked feminine sensitive guys. And I was almost offended thinking wtf I look a lot like that guy lol main and primary difference is he had short hair (at the time anyway) and my hair is girly an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:26 AM
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Yea I think if Eminem's face was more filled out and he had a healthier skintone it might be better. The model's nose might just be the angle or pose or something, I normally think larger masculine noses look cool. As a feature on women, unless it's distractingly bad it hardly matters to me but it might be more important for other straight guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:08 AM
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DIfference in preferences then. Cavill doesn't even have big lips (even for a white person, honestly they're still too thin) and I prefer fuller lips on both men and women (although I'm a straight guy). I don't think our preferences are that different though, you are bi but it seems like you lean a lot more toward femininity. I also think Cavill esp in his prime has an equally if not more chiseled and masculine face than Beckham in addition to overall just being better looking. The model looks "…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:51 AM
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LOL@ Cavill being behind Beckham and both of them look better than the generic model.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:59 AM
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...I didn't say my point had anything to do inherently with redpill ideology(s), I was referring to specifically this part here you said "If people take that to some scummy other place it’s not because RP was a gateway drug, it’s because they were a scummy person on a path to do scummy things no matter what path they chose. " As in, to explain why this happens rather than just simplifying it down to people taking RP down a scummy road bc they are scummy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:06 AM
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Not sure how that counters or invalidates anything. I'm explaining why men become toxic or shitty while perusing RP stuff, that's literally it. As an ideology it's neutral, but how things proceed IRL for individuals matter a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:37 AM
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So you're a straight/woman-leaning bisexual. Not trying to sound like a dick, just trying to understand. It's like those women who are bi but ultimately end up choosing masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:42 AM
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If you're bisexual, why didn't you put conventionally masculine-featured attractive men at the [other] end or your list and stopped at just unattractive or average men? Maybe you lean toward women but then it wouldn't make sense why you'd put "dudes who aren't all that" on there at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:34 AM
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A femboy doesn't look more feminine than those futa things you see in porn which are literally just hot women with dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:30 AM
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Help me understand. Fantasizing about femboys - not actual women - is the most straight for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:22 AM
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B/c English is fucked. Entschuldigung didn't kno u were german
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:09 AM
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If you're one of those men who spends a lot of time on the internet and tries to "learn more" about this RP thing they've found as they inevitably will, they're absolutely going to run into not one but many of the scummy grifters and mouthpieces that populate the sphere. A stronger individual with critical thinking will immediately recognize these guys as dipshits, but a lot of these men do not fall into that category and are younger, mentally compromised and/or easily influenced.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:03 AM
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Umm it's still BMW since it's spelled with a W? Just bc they pronounce it like how we pronounce V doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:57 AM
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Probably at least 75% of Reddit, and especially with anything political.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:16 AM
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....Why are there still cookies, wasn't everyone told to eat them? Looks like the gf was the only one listening and did nothing wrong. I'd probably just laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 12:15 AM
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based papa
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:43 AM
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ok i agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 02:39 AM
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That's why old-school RP says men are polygamous and women are serial monogamous. I think this ignores a lot of nuances but overall a lot of truth in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 02:37 AM
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it's just how the female gaze work, rarely is it ever visual. Um what, then why do most other celebrity female fanbases involve at least decent-looking men. Might not entirely be visual but it absolutely plays a role. Also even you say it makes sense average men can only get (and should only expect) average women despite other qualities, so how is it "rarely ever visual".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 02:31 AM
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I mean yeah, but a lot of the other thirsty redditor fanbases make sense, like Henry Cavill, Chris Evans, Sebastian Stan, Roman Reigns, Nicholas Hoult, Jacob Elordi etc. Even Pedro Pascal I somewhat understand. He's not conventionally it but his face is distinctive and charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:33 PM
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He's gay tho..? But in that link whatever their relationship the woman is prettier
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:22 PM
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looks don't matter rizz/aura/charisma pill wins always confirmed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:20 PM
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I can see how his aura had appeal but overall I'm really just at a loss like are we looking at the same person
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:15 PM
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Beauty is both objective and subjective. If it weren't my preferences would never have changed multiple times. But Q4W what is it that many of you see in the british actor Andrew Scott (oh shit I guess he's Irish, my bad)? To me he's slightly unattractive but otherwise I can't think of a more bland or forgettable face, and he has a [much more] significant female fanbase than I would expect for his looks. He's sometimes posted on Ladyboners for example. And don't hit me with the talent or persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:10 PM
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The taller athletic asian women are def more attractive to me than the petite rail thin types but I think it's just a preference thing. Tall asians aren't rare at all but there are less of them. I can find them or brunettes objectively very pretty but it's just not what I gravitate toward and some just remind me too much of my sister or cousins.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:26 PM
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I don't look like any of those links probably bc I'm not completely white but my face is probably my best feature. I'm 5'11" though and I'm not settling for anyone below 5'8" jfl at six inches shorter. Also I don't care much for asian or half-asian women even though that's what I am and I will not be going for people who look like me eg I like light hair and eyes and I have dark hair and eyes, I have a chiseled face and I'll be going for a softer face even if it's plain jane. It's almost 2026 me…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:22 PM
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thx will look those up later
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:59 AM
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Name? I'm always down for a good spy series.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:50 AM
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It's not really a debate that both looks and persona matter. I was more saying people virtue signal about how looks aren't everything while agreeing your looks limit you to those who look as good (or as bad) as you but they don't say the same about personality or morality. Again ftr I disagree, but I'm pointing out how the logic isn't sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:30 AM
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Yes also agree. Once I get my head straight and get some therapy I need to get on landing that cute-enough woman who just wants to start a family somewhere with few people where all we need is a decent deli bakery some nice trails and woods and maybe a library. In most cases happiness is only a good sandwich and coffee away.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:08 AM
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Yea I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:03 AM
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It probably depends a lot on the person too. I've also heard and observed pretty people being less stringent with looks in a partner because they don't have complexes about their own attractiveness. Similar to how while tall women may prefer a taller man as is natural for female biology, they aren't obsessed in the way some short women are with finding a guy above six feet. Or an alternate example, a conservative or traditional-minded woman who puts a lot of work into her own looks in line with …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:49 PM
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Sure, but everything is subjective to an extent. Just as there are those with phenotypes having greater conventional appeal, the same applies with personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:41 PM
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It'd be pretty disingenuous to argue women in general aren't heavily pushing the moral aspect when they give advice to men. The bigger problem even is that a lot of this advice is fully well-intentioned and not in an effort to deceive or deflect. "Women actually do like nice guys, [you're just a hateful incel]" exists as a super common rebuttal for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:34 PM
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Actually I completely agree. But that's not the premise(s) many if not most of the "personality" people are using. They very much are discussing it in the moral sense, or at least with morals being largely included and inferred. This is very similar with how society at large tells men personality matters [most]. Mouthpieces drone on about morals, kindness, traits and beliefs falling in line with progressive sociopolitical values when it's entirely about social skills, charisma and competence. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:21 PM
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I'm not in the "looks above all" camp at all, but for those who say personality and morality matter more than looks while at the same time saying, regardless of personality, an average guy shouldn't expect a pretty woman or that it makes sense Chad can get better looking women as is the order of things, those run completely contrary to each other. Honestly, this is contradictory even if you simply say personality and looks are equal. Obviously they aren't if lack of looks limits/lowers your cap …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:16 PM
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A facially mid guy with a great physique won't struggle unless he has socialization problems. Would he do better if he was goodlooking, absolutely, but he's still getting plenty of bites.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:59 AM
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My dad was jacked, worked out 5 days a week for 25+ years. He couldn't have cared less about being lean. Sure, and that's perfectly valid, but a lot of the guys you mentioned are probably those who say the gym doesn't work to make you more attractive and are completely unaware bc of their bigorexia their problem is lack of leanness not more gains or genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:22 AM
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Then why are there so many men who make the effort to go to the gym regularly but still look completely unremarkable. It's not that they don't have gains they simply have that idea that they don't want to hit the cardio or cut bc they're afraid of being small when they could clearly stand to lose some padding. It doesn't need to be a lot, aesthetically speaking the difference between people noticing and being invisible can be as little as 10 pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:06 AM
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That's what's holding a lot of men back lookswise, they are stuck in this delusion - in part due to being surrounded by fat people - that a BMI of below 25 is scrawny, nor are they impressive enough to be jacked and low BF, so they are forever stuck in that invisible potato-shaped purgatory even if they lift at the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:23 AM
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That guy looks good, not surprised at all many women are fans. 99% of guys with his BMI don't look like him, they look a couple degrees worse than a dadbod. Saying women prefer men with his BMI when almost all men in the category resemble the opposite is extremely misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:30 PM
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LOL women absolutely do not prefer men with a 27-28 BMI. Maybe 35+ women who've given up or don't care anymore and want someone with easy maintenance? Maybe if they really like jacked men with muscles and the guy happens to be the rare exception with that BMI and still looks great.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:22 PM
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For 99% of people, if they have a high BMI, they are just fat. If you have a high BMI bc you're a bodybuilder or have tons of lean mass, that'll be obvious. In most other cases the 'BMI is not a good indicator of health' thing is just an excuse. Even for men who have a lot of muscle, having a high BMI usually means they could stand to lose some fat pounds. Do some people genetically just "carry fat better", sure, but that's not the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:09 PM
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Ironically actual ugly men don't struggle as much as these neurotic men online obsessing over their facial features. Case in point the incel meetup photo vs the inceltears meetup photo. The 2nd group spends their time lecturing incels and telling them looks don't matter. It makes sense that they don't think looks matter as they clearly don't care about their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:41 PM
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I straight up don't believe the women who say they only see one hot guy a week or find only 1% of men attractive unless they just live in a terrible area. Likely these women already have major issues with men or are just saying things as a coping defense to lash out. Sometimes you'll hear women online say men are ugly then they'll say they're lesbian later. I've actually seen a lot more comments from women here saying they'd be open to dating men and finding many men have sufficient looks, but h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:23 PM
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I'm confused, so you're inferring it's more like 90/10 but in your previous comment you did say 'Bottom 80' which seems like you agree it's 80/20. Funny thing about that okcupid 80/20 study is, the fact that it's OLD aside so already an unnatural dating environment, the specifics actually asked women if they would be willing to poke the men to initiate, and equated poking with men they deemed attractive enough. To me this changes things drastically as most women would not do this to strangers, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:04 PM
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What rewards? There are health benefits in general ofc, but I assume you glowed up to do better with women? Baseline health shouldn't feel miserable. I don't know enough about your life/style to give any advice. If you were 500 lbs dating would be the least of your worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:55 PM
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So the men who don't need to do anything to do well with women are on easy mode fair enough, but even the men who come to like self-improving to do well are on easy mode now too? You know men wouldn't be as lenient toward fat women who dislike the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:47 PM
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What about this. A lot of men will be in one woman's top 20 but in another woman's bottom 80. 99% of men, if they put in the effort to be in shape and look good given their baseline genetics, can at least make it into this gray area which gives them a fighting chance. If you look around at the fat unkempt men who dgaf in public (and ironically, these men struggle less bc they aren't neurotic or posting online), you realize how low the bar is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:45 PM
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Taking care of oneself is just something everyone should be doing even if you don't care about women or dating. Working out relieves stress, becomes addictive aside from all the systemic health benefits and is fun if it involves sports with others. I guess it's all about perspective. If you need to spend a lot of money to "glow up" you're doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:35 PM
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It's not completely fun and games but it's hardly "not enjoyable at any level". Just stay in shape, basic grooming and skincare, maybe some dietary changes if necessary but less stringent for men. It's shit you should be doing anyway for yourself to feel better. The hardest part is again social competence. If you aren't born with it or were deprived of a functional childhood to allow for healthy development learning how to talk and interact with people is going to be hard before we talk about in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:22 PM
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You've never experienced someone turn into a completely different person you don't even recognize in an argument after a month (or even much much longer)? Traumatizing and an immediate fuck-that-shit-have-a-nice-life for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:22 PM
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Allergies are insane this year. But it seems like I say that every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:20 PM
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That all sounds fair, but are there many men who demand zero obligation but still rights to their kids? I'm seeing more men who are already obligated who want more rights, or men who are okay with zero rights but complaining about still having obligations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:16 PM
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I'm somewhat allergic to cats and find them bland and boring vs dogs, but I think in the modern day it's more just annoyance at the cringe cat-loving culture online from outspoken neurodivergents and introverts. I think doggo culture was similar but not nearly as bad, maybe bc dogs are for people who are more extroverted and touch more grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:10 PM
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shitting their pants hypergamy confirmed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:05 PM
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Honestly trashy as fuck if she's rubbing up against you and being obvious when your gf is right there or probably knows about it. I can't say I know anyone in my personal circles who would do that but come to think of it yeah if she's the type of person to do that she sounds like the type of person who would keep doing it. I had a few coworkers like that but thankfully that was a couple jobs ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:37 AM
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Just brush it off, they'll get the point you're not interested in reciprocating. They'll either stop talking to you (bc they were only interested in you sexually/romantically and don't care for your friendship) or they'll keep talking to you as they are okay with still being friends. I'm not one of those people who thinks it's weird to stay friends or that a confession of a crush is somehow a betrayal or ruining things even if it's temporarily awkward; it is what it is and I can still enjoy peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:50 AM
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Instagram and Facebook are full of fat middle-aged men - somehow with many shameless photos of them with their shirts off - calling women solid 4s or 5s. People just lack awareness. They leave their own photos open ot the public for scrutiny and ridicule too, which supports the idea they really just living a world of delusion and zero repercussions and are surprised when consequences happen like bro did you really not think people were going to look and get you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:50 AM
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False accusations for SA and rape are about as common/rare as false accusations for other crimes, so around 10% of all accusations. So obviously in the strict minority, but def high enough to worry and talk about - given the issue's unique social implications before any investigation and even if/when proven innocent before even bringing wrongful convictions into the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:23 AM
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Sure, but he brought up how evolution has shaped and molded the male gene pool over time and how the pool reflects female selection. Which in large part it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 09:43 AM
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At least untrue in significant part due to a large percentage of pairings being involuntary, whether it be due to family arrangements in past history or r@pe, both historical and in nature. Scientists estimate around 40% of pairings among all species on average in the wild to be involuntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 09:36 AM
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Mamdani's features only look rounder because he isn't as lean. There really isn't much difference in face length or shape to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:59 AM
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I'm just going by his personal taste, he thinks Zohran Mamdani is super hot and this guy looks like him to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:42 AM
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Bro dun lie give him a few extra winter pounds and a nice fluffy sweater you're all in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 06:43 AM
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I don't know enough to discuss AI intelligently in a broad context but honestly I'm already at that point where I think most online content is bullshit and of little value not simply in terms of being real or not. It'll just be a small step from there to not believing anything I see anymore anyway so in that regard I don't see the concern people have. Eventually we'll just come to automatically assume everything is fake til proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 06:39 AM
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That dude is your Chad tho. I'm positive you find him more attractive than Tom Brady. He's basically a fitter Mamdani in a karate uniform.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 06:30 AM
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Damn I feel bad for where you live then. This one was mostly women even, google some of the men, it's even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:13 AM
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I wouldn't date a woman who's on reddit regularly, much less on that sub full of spergs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:58 AM
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also maybe it's all fake. Even if it was, it won't ever stop you and your love of the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:42 AM
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<image> Image from a 2019 article re: new staff members at MIT LOL ok. Bottom left is cute, couple average and more than a couple significantly below average. Inb4 they just don't take care of their looks ok so yeah shouldn't they have obviously naturally attractive bone structure regardless? We can image google MIT faculty all day a larger pool reveals more of the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:36 AM
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What does this have to do with the OP which talks about intelligence and cognitive development? Ofc if you have structural issues in your skull it's going to make you less attractive. On a side note actually it's funny the long narrow faced recessed jaw phenotype is associated with high-class academics and tech nerds in anglo societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:22 AM
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Very doubtful looking at all the people known for their intelligence and smarts. And yeah it might be different at the very top like they aren't going to have model faces but you'd think you'd notice a clear difference then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:14 AM
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Why didn't he just unsend it. There's a chance she wouldn't have seen it right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:07 AM
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JFLLLL if someone posted her male looksmatch here he'd be brutally clowned on nonstop instead of everyone choosing their words carefully "ah yes quite interesting if you ask me, a face for the ages and the paintbrush *twirls mustache*"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:21 AM
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Do the typical dance and yoga classes not apply anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:18 PM
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I would guess for the majority in the eyes of both men and women anything over 10 years is "I've accepted and become okay with the way things are so I'll say I'm happy or content when surveyed."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:14 PM
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I'm not necessarily blaming her or anyone, maybe she was genuinely trying for good conversation and it went somewhere unexpected and unwanted. But the relevance comes when we bring in more pieces, like the likelihood that women (in general) would be likely to conveniently leave accountability out of it when describing the experience to her friends so they and society at large by default would just assume he overstepped boundaries like hashtag always a man amirite. Since the thread OP had the tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:45 PM
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Women don't usually ever need rizz so it's understandable they don't have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:37 PM
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Classic case of a guy unjustifiably being made to feel or wonder if he made a mistake and was a creep. Nothing wrong with making it sexual off the bat if that's what you want, but only one side was shut down and cut off after [also] making it sexual or playing along.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:33 PM
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That's really surprising/interesting to hear. I can't think of a woman I know IRL who's never dated and I know so many. If I recall you said you're in your late 30s so women who got frustrated or weren't feeling it stopping for 5 years is conceivable but never dated is mindblowing unless they're a lot younger and even then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:12 PM
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That's how I feel about 4b women threatening to quit men lol. Like please do. You have my full support. For all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:06 PM
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so you're not even american, it never fails not gonna listen to another foreign redditor - usually from Europe - act like they are so much better, smarter, more tolerant, enlightened. also I didn't vote for him, but I'm not surprised you assumed I did, or that I lean right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:46 AM
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As you say, most people on the left were disappointed. That's not infighting, again just disapproval and frustration at one of their leaders. Equivalent example, plenty of GOP and MAGA upset Trump is/was so shady about releasing the Epstein files. Many matching or superceding the anger and vitriol from Trump's detractors who wanted the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:40 AM
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I didn't miss that. I don't really see that as infighting. It was disapproval that one of the leaders didn't go far enough or follow through, which happens a lot on the right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:37 AM
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I rarely see any infighting on the left. Shrug. Different observations and life experiences I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:34 AM
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I just call it like I see it. Like I said it might just be reddit or living in a liberal area. I'm not a centrist. Or at least whatever definition that entails.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:32 AM
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And then you realize why most women don't think validation or compliments from men mean anything. Tbf they don't mean much from women either, but for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:27 AM
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I try my best to be impartial and it's very much probably just reddit, but even on the big conservative sub - which is a somewhat isolated minority bubble for conservative redditors - you'll see plenty of people including top commenters criticizing Trump, especially for this tweet as is justified. You won't see nearly the same about of backlash for anything bad the left does or says on liberal subs, and yes this was the case even when Trump wasn't president. For 4 years 2020-2024 they couldn't s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:19 AM
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What's wrong with education now? Our kids (and adults) are fucking stupid have you not noticed, assuming you live here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:16 AM
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Just a remark on the periphery I guess, most UMC women under 30 are fairly thin relatively but maybe it's where you live. Or maybe my area is shallow af.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:10 AM
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It's valuable but I'd agree not the most important thing in a relationship. I've fallen harder for women I don't have much sexual attraction to, and not in a "she's mid but I love her" way and I value looks. Sometimes beauty just isn't correlatory with sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:43 AM
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Your circles are umc women and you still speak like healthy BMI women are rare or unicorns?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:41 AM
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I guess that's why you say you have a masculine brain. You compartmentalize sex and emotions fairly easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:38 AM
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Curious why you would be ok with ONS but not repeat casual as long as both parties know it's casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:27 AM
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Yeah but aren't you aversive to one night stands or men who seem like they are only into them? Option A isn't appealing but Option B's also just gonna pump and dump you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:25 AM
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Jamie Campbell Bower or Louis McCartney? First guy is like already 40 now I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:05 AM
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he looks weird overall but he'd be better looking without those paper thin lips typical of many brits
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:45 AM
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I feel like a lot of people have that...either if they're lean or if they're old enough to have lost facial or baby fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:33 AM
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fat lips? those aren't even full lips for a white person
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:28 AM
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ur boi benedict has skinny sunken cheeks as well
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:23 AM
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It's such a coincidence (/s) none of these dadbod or jack black looking guys are ever the type of guys women whisper about in huddles and groups. I'm sure individuals have their own unique preferences here and there sometimes but when everyone happens to fall into agreement to contribute to the convo about how hot he is it's always a tall athletic dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:11 AM
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He's conventionally hot otherwise but I never understood the west's (or men's) obsession with the hooded narrow eye thing. Most women also like softer more feminine eyes. In many ways hunter eyes almost look dumb or lower class.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:01 AM
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Completely off topic but this argument reminds me of the gender wage gap. All hourly jobs are required by law to pay men and women equally, most women choose less lucrative fields, and are less likely to negotiate aggressively for higher salaries. There are many societal factors to explain this, but it's not a conspiracy to pay women less.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:55 AM
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I think her main priority is to maintain a low weight, and she exercises just to maintain or lose. Carbs before a workout only matter significantly if you care about gains or performance. It's just about hitting protein macros and minimizing carb macros overall rather than timing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:26 AM
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How many times are you going to ask this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:56 PM
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That's a lotta dates but it's your time and money Not sure why you edited your stats in like they're relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:52 PM
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This is exactly my observation. There are outliers with a much higher lifetime N count but the typical "cock carousel" "hoe phase" men are all warned about usually consists of a casual stint with a couple guys (once, maybe twice at most before they settle down) before they lock into another long term relationship and not even most women will have a casual stint.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:50 PM
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No, but it means you get much more mileage with whatever else you have. Being 6'3" alone means you can have an average face and other mediocre stats and still enjoy some degree of success and attention. Huge difference between 5'7 getting nothing and 6'3 getting something here and there. Tall mid dudes, usually white, often get quite a bit of bite.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:34 PM
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People interpret this in accordance w/ and to suit their world views. If a woman goes half in, some men see this as not taking him or the meetup seriously or a lack of genuine attraction, whereas others will say what you said. If a woman insists on the man paying, it can either be framed as her being entitled and seeing him as a wallet (and again, lack of genuine attraction), or someone with solid traditional values ie wife material. I try not to think too hard about it, most first dates I've be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 01:28 AM
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just coffee
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:38 PM
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You either have super high standards or major issues (agoraphobia or avoiding people and the public like myself, severe neuroticism or anxiety maybe alongside dysmorphia), even the lowest tier of women get something before 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:26 PM
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What if I told you he mogs her. Maybe just bc he looks tall in the right photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:59 PM
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I mean you're basically just saying looks help. Which they do. But I've seen far too many goodlooking guys fumble bc their personality is stunted or shitty. Although you hinted at a great point I usually don't say because so many people have a reflexive negative reaction to it. A huge appeal of looks (esp for women) isn't the actual looks but how looks is filtered through status ie a large part of why women love a tall goodlooking guy is bc other people will see she's with him. This is largely r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:18 PM
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Even in this "pilled" age most women won't say or "admit" he needs to be hot. Just that there needs to be attraction. There is still rampant messaging to men that it's their personality that's the issue, not their looks. And tbh I agree to an extent. Looks matter but honestly the threshold isn't as high as blackpillers say it is, and it's more social incompetence and awareness that's hurting a lot of these men. At the same time, again we definitely preach the "personality" pill to men in the mai…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:05 PM
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Vast majority of men who struggle with dating aren't ugly Daily reminder also chubby or fat dudes are volcels
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:54 PM
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<image> Was this your band.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:15 AM
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Yea some dudes look like they're 30 at 22 and then stay that way til 45.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:15 AM
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We have similar vascularity levels, I think I have better ab definition but overall your physique mogs mine into oblivion due to me being much smaller. I also for some reason expected like a 20-something gymbro lol but you seem a bit older.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:51 AM
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Yup. Assuming a competition, average looking good social skills guy will beat out handsome autist every time if you're talking about pure notches on belt. It's just a flex to think about that the goodlooking guy will always have his looks (well for the most part) to get his foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:32 AM
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It seems like men want to date women more than women want to date men. Could it be that men are more likely to need to resort to apps because they're struggling more IRL? I see nothing but women dating, can't think of a voluntarily single woman off the top of my head in even my broadest of circles aside from maybe a couple who just broke up with their bfs and I don't expect them to stay single for that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:26 AM
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He still wins then BF% "ripped" wise. Whether it's better or not is subjective and he hasn't posted a full body pic i dun think. You got good ab definition for a powerlifter though esp.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:21 AM
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Nah not willing to have my skinny ass immortalized on the internets. Equal BF% sure, but your mass/physique is obvi going to be superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:22 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:14 AM
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You're probably much more athletic and accomplished than me but given that picture of your arm we're probably at equal bf levels I get the weirdest compliments from men and women saying I have nice veins. Not gonna post any body or face here tho lol. Your arm also looked quite thin but I'm guessing it's the lens and angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:10 AM
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I have nothing but contempt for the left-leaning reddit hivemind, but in a way I see the point like he was looking for a fight. It'd be like if I went out of my way to bring a gun and insert myself into a bar fight and then say I was defending myself when a guy took a swing at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:07 AM
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Yes, every person who can't stfu about low-carb or keto has always been a chubby weekend warrior type (if even that) who acts like they just discovered the holy grail. It's never someone actually athletic and in top shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:02 AM
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Mid conservative men don't have trouble getting attractive women because conservative women in general make more of an effort to follow trad beauty norms, whether you like the norms or not. Unless you're talking about the fat walmart or trailer park kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:44 PM
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And you would've gotten away with it if it weren't for those darn ppd kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:35 PM
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Fasting does seem to make you more clear-headed and bestows a type of at-ease content feeling that's difficult to describe but I rarely do it for obvious reasons. I still think keto is mostly BS, might be good for losing weight from sheer caloric deficit or lack of food options but it's not something I would ever be interested in since the ultimate result is weight or fat loss. If you're remotely active low-carb is a straight up no-go before we even talk about performance issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:34 PM
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People who feel the need to regularly brag about and detail their achievements are never happy. I say this about any of this kind of shit here coming from men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:27 PM
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Also the brain is actually the biggest consumer of calories over anything else aside from basal metabolic needs and it's insane if you're neurotic or have anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:17 PM
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I need close to that and I probably don't do half the training you do to maintain a shitty 19 BMI. Fast metabolism is a good thing in modern society but I def find myself wolfing down a sandwich right before bedtime more often than wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:09 PM
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OP is your username from that Chappelle skit on SNL.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:48 AM
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He just looks like every other white frat boy from old money in college. That is by far the worst picture of him I've ever seen though lol why does his mouth look so small and pinched.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:56 AM
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"another overly transactional mindset when it comes to human connection. i've gotten dinner with all kinds of people because i wanted to get to know them as human beings. gone to dude's places to watch tv and smoke some weed so i could see if we vibed." Me too, but that's not how most humans are. My premise is how most men conduct themselves, 99% of men don't ask attractive stranger women out to be buddies, and women know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:37 AM
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No, it's unfair that just like how women justifiably don't want to be discount hookers, men aren't given the same understanding who don't want to be used as a free meal ticket. Re: the nothingburger 4b threat you guys aren't disengaging from anything. The few women who will were never missed to begin with and normal women aren't going to give that up. Best case scenario, the FA men you hate so much will absolutely love it as everyone is getting less sex just like them x)x) Literally everybody ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:33 AM
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I think it's more just a societal values thing. People wouldn't see this differently if the man was shorter or smaller than her. Maybe a combo of puritanical and trad values with progressive ones, a woman's body will always be seen as more sacred than whatever usually <$100 a man drops on dinner but I could see this applying even if it was a lot more. Wouldn't matter if it was In'n Out Burger or an all expenses paid 2 week vacation somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:14 PM
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mebbe
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:10 PM
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That's what often happens when you're in a relationship, you naturally just spend less time with your friends. I'm just saying it's a red flag if she's not okay with it ever happening. I'll do one-on-one with female friends, in a group with many of them, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:07 PM
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Sure, it's not, but the least you could do is not be critical of the man in the first situation. There are also women who will allow themselves to be penetrated for less than the cost of a dinner so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:05 PM
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I have a lot of female friends I care about. If my gf isn't okay with me spending time with them I guess it just won't work out between us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:02 PM
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"Republic credits will do fine." "You will...hire me."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:55 PM
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In the end society is more okay with being entitled to a man's money than being entitled to a woman's body. Which in a way I get, but men just get the short end of the stick in this context of dating dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:51 PM
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I understand why women find it offputting and icky, but at the same time it's like well why did you think he was paying for dinner, bc he wanted to be football buddies? Unless she's already friends with the guy, this is unlikely. At the very least the possibility he just wants to get laid must have popped into her head. It's hard to get women like this, I have a friend (who has a boyfriend) who literally thought a brand new guy at work who asked her out for lunch had no romantic or sexual intent…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:39 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex men the gatekeepers of commitment yada yada no secret [some] men do things to get sex and [some] women try to lock men down with sex But if a man decides not to pay for dinner when he realizes he won't be getting sex, he's terrible, women don't owe you anything, and so on and so forth und so weiter If a woman decides not to have sex when she realizes she won't be getting commitment, it's all the support in addition to the guy getting criticized for just wanting s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:27 PM
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what if i take it back and say timothee chalamet is hot like the hottest rat i've ever seen
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:51 AM
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I mean it depends on the individual, you don't know how much capacity they've shown or haven't. Bottom line there's a lot of resentful people out there. Women spouting "all men are trash" who would give it all up in an instant to worship a guy who walked into their life. Whatever harsh words or phrases they come up with don't go against their nature to form an emotional bond in mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:18 AM
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The part of the brain that makes men want to objectify and lust after women is different at least in large part from the part that makes them capable of love. Just because men refer to some women as "recreational only" or even in general doesn't mean they can't see themselves loving a woman strongly and not just for what she provides sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:13 AM
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Because they view women as less moral or have a lot of resentment when it comes to how women are as moral creatures. They don't think their love is extra special, they think a woman's love is less than theirs. The objectification is a different thing entirely based upon natural shallowness, as I say they aren't incongruent. People objectify others all the time and are still capable of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:08 AM
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The analogy doesn't need to be exact. My point is you can have assholes who objectify or have all sorts of problems w/ the opp sex and still be capable of love, just like their female counterparts. It further easily follows that they can view themselves as the better sex when it comes to love since they resent the opp sex often esp from a moral standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:04 AM
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I don't agree with the 2nd part but I also don't see the incongruence. How can women who regularly refer to men as moids or scrotes have men in their own lives they care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:56 AM
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No, it was you. You have a very distinctive avatar. Either way, whatever. The fact that you deny confidence, charisma and persona have a sway in attraction confirms this belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:43 AM
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I can't be arsed to search for proof, but my memory is good and I remember her saying so a while back. Would just be par for the course, things like this happen regularly. I refer constantly to a viral heavily upvoted post a while back on another sub - possibly unpopularopinion with an asexual person arguing that sex is overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:27 AM
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is he lacking respect, he has plenty of fans
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:24 AM
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is your sickness cured
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:23 AM
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I mean you're asexual, so we can't take your opinion of what can be sexually attractive seriously. Just like all those LGBT people trying to speak for straight women by voicing their own preferences to put men in their place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:18 AM
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I mean you're cool and all but if this is the place you spend the most time online it is kinda weird since it's a debate forum about straight dating and dynamics. The reason for your disinterest in gay communities is probably related to or the same as why this place appeals to you more than gay discussion boards. Maybe not my place to pry or speculate but due to your subtle references to autogynephilia in the past I wonder if maybe a large part of you finds it more fitting or comfortable to put …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:28 AM
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older than 20, younger than 30
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:11 AM
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Legit. Although schizo-tier just means regular tier as young guys these days equate awkward with normal ie the bar is a lot lower. I've never seen a socially uninhibited guy struggle unless he was obviously weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:00 AM
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There is zero responsibility on men to change or do anything if the accusations don't apply to them. This is literally like saying it's up to black people who don't do crime to improve their image and do less crime bc they feel black people are being unfairly generalized as criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 12:50 AM
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Many words come to have definitions that are much more lax or nonspecific and thus "lose meaning" before they evolve, and language does evolve yes. The discussion may lie more in whether it's okay or acceptable depending on some words.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 12:11 AM
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Then they're just assholes or misogynists then. Makes zero sense to use a specific portmanteau for involuntary celibate. People just like to use it because they would love to associate and assign all the loser traits incel carries to anyone they disagree with, like inability to get sex, ironically in the face of their cries against toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 12:03 AM
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sorry Timothee
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:55 PM
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Kylie looks better facially, but she's had a lot of makeup and work done. Chalamet isn't ugly but he'll always look like a rat to me, albeit a well-groomed one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:50 PM
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nah i'm good
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:41 PM
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Has anyone gotten notifications of someone replying to your comment when it's not even your comment? I'm not talking about "so-and-so has replied to a comment in a thread you are involved in".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:41 PM
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It will if it's misused often enough by enough people. The word begins to take on a new meaning that isn't the old intended meaning. Incel just means any guy women dislike now in the context of gender wars. Sure, language evolves and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:38 PM
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If the word is misused it's misused. Like calling a misogynistic womanizer or hate-spewing single dad of three an incel. If you get called a misandrist for making hateful generalizations about men then it's not misused, whether it's true about you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:30 PM
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My friend said he feels bad for child actors or prodigies because when they're young everyone's like wow so cool but then you grow up and everyone forgets about you now you're just some dude. Let's say you play the piano really well as a 5 year old and it's amazing but then as you grow up you're just in a sea of professional piano players.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:49 PM
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That's just unfortunate genetics. If he wasn't fat he'd still look like a kid esp if he got rid of the beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:36 PM
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They're probably exaggerating but there's truth to it. Everyone wants attractive people, even unattractive people. With their fucked up attitudes I could see this applying to femcels - and incels as well ofc. I've heard femcels say the same thing and they're just the other side of the same coin. "All men are trash anyway so might as well go for the hot ones."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:02 PM
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Are these actual femcels posting misandric shit or is it just two random women's photos they found I'd believe either one given the source but the #1 commonality in all the photos incels and femcels post isn't ugliness or looks level but the stunted on-the-spectrum styling and stare
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:55 PM
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think you responded to the wrong guy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 12:08 AM
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Well except these women often strongly imply it's as simple for them as well as is convenient when arguing. There was a perfect example in a comment thread I read yesterday. I'd link it but it'd be extra work and also could be seen as targeting/witchhunting. Ultimately the fact is if using your hand was enough there would be zero frustrated men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:21 PM
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I always say women be talking with hostility down to FA men online as if they are the ones giving them all the grief in relationships. These are not the men who are dating. They aren't the men whom they gave a chance despite having shit streaks in their underwear, drinking and anger issues while putting in zero effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:18 PM
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The most brutal teacher, where the test always comes before the lesson
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:41 PM
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All my training for nothing Who was your sifu?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:36 PM
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I haven't noticed a difference but maybe I'm unobservant. But yeah there is that trope of Stacies being approached less bc many men assume they're already swimming in proposals.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:33 PM
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Next-door cute with trad values is ideal. I won't ever understand the appeal of having an LTR with a Stacy. High maintenance, way too many options and consistent temptation for her. As if normal women don't have enough as is and women will cheat on Chad if bored enough. In that sense I understand when women say they would prefer a guy who "isn't too goodlooking".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:19 PM
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Women say sex is much more than the physical, it's about intimacy, emotional bonding, etc and then tell lonely men that if they want sex just use their hand they don't see the big deal. If jerking off was a sufficient substitute for the real thing sexual frustration wouldn't exist. And as if incels aren't jerking off already.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:39 PM
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Not to sound judgmental and it's always fucked up when this type of thing happens, but I never understand people who choose to film and post themselves crying. Even if it's real. My jaded side says the genuineness can also be compromised because they know they're being watched by an audience. Social media would be the last thing on my mind if I was going through something acutely devastating. Vs going back later to talk about it after things have calmed down or leveled out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:49 AM
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The more people talk or post about their relationship and how great it is on social media, the less happy they actually are. Content, successful people also don't brag or say shitty things to others. Even if some deserve it, these happy people don't ever feel a need to engage them bc there's no need to compensate. They don't need to be billionaire gigachads/stacies, just normal people without massive chips on their shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:41 AM
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I'm fast realizing the internet seems to have so many indian people bc india is huge obvi but also there aren't many india-only social media platforms so they're all on western ones
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:50 AM
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is 50% of this sub just alts of the same rich indian kid in his sadboi phase just asking
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:47 AM
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Comments like that aren't rare but it's rare they are top or among the most upvoted. Comments that say the same thing but reversed with the interests of women in mind are at the top all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:19 AM
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it's another femcel sub that's still allowed to flourish idk what you expected tbf a few years ago i larped as a woman on a looksmaxxing sub and i got banned immediately for shitting on one of their psl gods they dickrode daily, delusional autist reddit mod egos simply couldn't take it x)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:08 AM
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Wait hold up it's actually a thing? Dude I was just making a joke based on your flair. In that case I'm out of this convo, I'm not a therapist. Huge difference between not being ashamed and proudly making it known to internet strangers wtfff.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:33 AM
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ngl weird calling your teen son a chad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:02 AM
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dun worry i'm not pressed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:46 PM
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GIve him a beard and he'd be your brand of Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:33 PM
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usually im not into asian guys, reason is most of them are twinkish and that isn't my type. Damn, well that was fuckin rude
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:33 PM
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He clearly looks better at 26. But yes he's aged much much better than many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:19 PM
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When these women regularly talk about men like they are abusive rampant cheaters and against asswashing I really wonder like where do you live and how much of a wreck is your life that this is what you attract and are surrounded by.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:41 AM
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I still can't believe people take this place seriously enough for anything more than fucking around or just talking about random shit, you fr have people falling in love with other posters wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:35 AM
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it's not gay as long as your balls don't touch
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:41 PM
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She looks much better in the first link bc she didn't have an eating disorder yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:35 PM
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Yeah that's been my observation. But whenever people talk about certain concepts they always have the wrong or extreme thing in mind. When people say muscles are gross they think of roided-out meathead physiques, when they talk about liking dadbods they talk about a fit guy with decent muscle mass who eats pizza and drinks on the weekends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:02 PM
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[Straight] Women eyefuck arms so hard it's difficult to take any woman seriously if she says she dislikes or doesn't care about muscles. At most it affects some women more and others less viscerally like "meh, looks good I guess."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:56 PM
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Why does he look so much more normal in casual pictures than when he's at his job.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:49 PM
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Hard to tell, not sure if it's just my comp the picture quality is like a rotten potato. Edit: Nm I watched the video I'd probably pick the three other not overweight women over the asian one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:44 PM
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I've had women ask to feel them and one who didn't ask and most were sober. But also yes on the broad shoulders or arms. They probably like arms more than abs though. My shitty workout routine focuses almost exclusively on arms just like most dumb bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:39 PM
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I deleted my previous comment due to not being worded well, but the idea is that there are women who let some men wait and others not even if both [types of] men are asking for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:43 PM
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The specific concern men here at least have isn't waiting, it's more wondering if/why she didn't make other men wait. If all women tried to avoid getting pumped and dumped 100% of the time over half of the discourse on this topic wouldn't exist. It's the similar topic why women want to make sure a man is commitment minded to her in addition to the physical aspect, not that they think sex is a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:34 PM
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i dress up pretty much only to meet dress codes and functionality And thank goodness for that. Wouldn't want it any other way if I went to a workplace where people potentially lose fingers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:22 PM
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I...don't understand or care much about makeup. How that is relevant to my overall point idk. Like I said it's not remotely just about makeup. In fact out of all the judgment I've heard about women from other women it's more clothing, accessories, demeanor, or behavior based than makeup specifically. Women know the people paying most attention to and critiquing their overall presentation will be other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:17 PM
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Nah, it's just biology for a lot of it. I can guarantee you men don't give a shit how many times a woman wears an outfit per week, what accessories, bags, or jewelry she chooses or how it goes with everything else, whether her shoes are in season or outdated, most men can't even tell or care about basic matching. We literally could not give a rat's ass, much less have set the standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:10 PM
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The amount of times I've heard women shit on what another woman was wearing when she wasn't around, they also try to make it sound like it could be ambiguous like they're just talking about it instead of insulting it. "Interesting sweater she was wearing." "Ikr" "Omg definitely a choice."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:00 PM
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They're just women lol idk. Usually UMC, still relatively young and shallow maybe. Not older or established, but then again I've definitely witnessed and heard about snark from this demo as well e.g. woman principals and middle executives. Haven't interacted with enough high level corporate women to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:58 PM
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My take transcends things like makeup specifics. It's more just women being more judgmental toward other women in general. Not just dress or makeup but the way they act, the things they say etc. In the workplace I've noticed female supervisors or bosses being way more harsh and picky with the women working under them and more lenient with the men. I had a friend whose mom was a teacher and the female principal had much more rigid standards and critique for the women than for the men who I guess …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:53 PM
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Lucky you then. I've been around enough majority women circles to hear how they talk about even women they're friendly and hang out with when they aren't around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:48 PM
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Work, school, any social circle. Obviously you aren't going to be around complete strangers enough to notice or experience subtle remarks, passive exclusion, microaggressions or vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:39 PM
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My observation has been everyone cares what everyone else thinks but women do seem to care more about the opinions of other women than men vs other men. I recall one time a friend in actual distress and seemed genuinely sad and disturbed because they were talking about a guy she found attractive and her friends disagreed and were like ew. I don't think I've ever seen this happen with myself or other dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:38 PM
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I think that's what I was leaning toward. The first statement makes women look good and men bad, the 2nd one the reverse as an alternate way of looking at things. And it's not like there aren't clear signs of disapproval and judgment women give each other in all types of social settings, not just silence if they don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:31 PM
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Saying women dress and make up for other women and not men is just another way of saying women know the biggest threat of judgment going out in public is from other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:09 PM
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Until you realize the standards for women are also policed extremely hard by other women. A lot of things women complain about, like being judged harshly for beauty or dress standards, social norms and such, are either enforced mainly, or more, by other women. I've found a lot of women will try to explain or defend this by saying it's internalized misogyny and patriarchy - again the men's fault. That's not to say the women's movement on paper doesn't have good points, but in practice it doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:58 PM
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But...that's not going to happen. And if women there were going to "lead the 4th reich" they already would have, when white media was at full saturation. As it stands from here on media exposure will probably be much more diverse. Who the fuck knows what's going to be popular 20, 50 years from now. Also I'm one of those mixed weird mutants you're describing. Thanks I guess lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:36 AM
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Well, a lot of people have major issues and are probably not in a place to be good partners, so it's hard to disagree there. The statement itself would not be loaded to a normal person with ideal mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:21 AM
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I do agree he's blowing it out of proportion but white worship is a thing. As I think race-talk is discouraged here I'll just kinda leave it at that. The internet has made way for the exposure of much more diversified sources of media (versus say Hollywood, which seems to be waning in popularity) so hopefully things continue to improve; I feel like they already have in a sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:19 AM
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The ones coming to the US are obviously going to be selected for being more open to dating out, and even then a lot of them are still pretty insular in their own groups. Being white is always going to be an advantage in the US, but plenty of asian dudes do just fine depending on where they are, probably easier in some places like CA vs Montana or wherever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:14 AM
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Yea, I was talking about SEA and East Asia. Most of them marry each other. Given the extremely low standards white guys have for asian women I have doubts all those attractive asian women wouldn't be able to get a white dude if that's what they really wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:08 AM
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Asia is like half the world and for the most part almost all of them are having children with each other and will continue to do so. I don't see it getting worse since the peak/monopoly of exported western media was already 1-2 decades ago. Westernized diaspora or ameriweebs simping for mid white guys is a different story and a negligible amount of the population. It's true though as long as you're in the west just be tall and white is easymode given NT traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 06:55 AM
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The same reason bitter men with chips on their shoulders do when they choose to participate in a gender debate sub. I don't see the confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 06:38 AM
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Not quite the same, but I was told on here that it’s creepy and controlling that I’ve never had sex outside a relationship and would prefer a woman who has similar values towards sex as me. That is...very much the same. A perfectly reasonable standard met with backlash because people are inherently resentful coming in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 06:35 AM
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Who's excusing what now? I'm explaining to you why things are the way they are. And this bitter combativeness and tone is in no way restricted to men. As is evident.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 06:27 AM
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Like I said, people are already in an argumentative mood with the opp sex. A lot of people are going to take any type of talk of standards as an attack. "I need a man who adds value to my life" is going to be interpreted as men don't seem to have much value. In addition to this sub reddit is full of women angry at men. It's not a secret women's standards are celebrated and encouraged and men's standards are seen as toxic or entitled in the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 06:18 AM
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You're in a place where people come in already resenting the opposite sex. Most talk of demands or wanting something is going to get pushback and be received poorly by many. "My life has to be better with him than without" is always going to be a loaded statement here, women react the same way when a man talks about what he feels a woman should bring to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 06:10 AM
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afaik it's a significant minority of northern europeans and out of that a lot turn brunette as they get older seeing as how you're also white it's weird you'd think that, even in scandinavia many babies aren't born blonde
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:01 AM
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I thought most white-ish people were blond as kids? What? Have you been around zero white people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:48 AM
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It isn't something I've ever heard of other than I know it's a theory by a feminist. I guess it sounds cool, that's all I can say about that. But that's just how life works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:46 AM
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I can guarantee there isn't a (edit: sane) man on earth who wishes he could get pregnant. But I do agree women make better friends in some ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:43 AM
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If you weren't able to achieve the minimum attraction threshold you wouldn't be able to make any headway or progress which isn't your case. You won't ever be a tall mid white guy and that's fine if not a good thing, just happens to be the go-to for easy mode in the west. I'll miss your rants and analyses but maybe tone down the melodrama in your future life adventures~
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:36 AM
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Maybe. Maybe not. Who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:28 PM
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It's simply not meant to be a priority and/or men are taught looks don't matter as much for them. Again you can disagree with the idea but lazy has nothing to do with it. I'm a guy who styles my hair and does skincare and it's way easier than a lot of other things traditionally prescribed for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:25 PM
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Doing manual labor and physical things are also associated with being masculine, that sounds like the opposite of lazy. It's just gender roles, you don't have to like them but I don't think laziness plays a role in any of it. Women are expected to put more effort into their appearance and men expected to put more effort in elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:19 PM
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In any case, it's not just him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:02 PM
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Mine's probably worse. My parents put on music that my grandparents listened to on family trips in the car as a kid. So BeeGees, Simon and Garfunkel, Beatles, Mamas and the Papas, etc. Got me hooked at an early age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:50 PM
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So he's been trolling since he was 8 or something. I respect the hustle I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:46 PM
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The fact that a lot of you talk about dating thin people or getting play from non-overweight people as some sort of qualification of merit leads me to think a lot of you are just overweight yourselves or live in bad areas like these people are some sort of prized unicorns. Which also explains why so many here describe trashy behavior from the opp sex as the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:38 PM
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Again bc you're not a woman, you think any desire she feels for you that isn't based off of within a few seconds of seeing you is inferior. You say you don't think that way, but you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:38 PM
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So women don't even want chadlites although you yourself say you have a suboptimal height and face but you get women with little issue by just lifting and working out and I assume some type of what they call game or social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:27 PM
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If the desire is genuine and simply not based on looks initially, what is the problem? A man's looks can also grow on women over time. Honestly I would prefer a woman to be attracted to me based on my other personality or behavior related traits. In my opinion and speculation, women who readily gravitate toward men and commit to them based on shallow things like looks are just more likely to stray and look for other goodlooking men when they get bored. Not like they can't get bored of personalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:23 PM
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I would ask why you think instantaneous on-sight female desire is the only type of female desire you think is legit. Men who think this way are projecting because that's how their own switches work. Women can feel nothing or meh about a guy and develop genuine desire for a man over time from how he acts or comes across. There are also women who sack up with men they feel no desire for bc of provisionary reasons and lie to themselves. These are however not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:10 PM
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If you're average looking you won't get indicators unless you're proactive or do something to make women interested. If you're goodlooking you'll get indicators but you still need to follow through. You might still get something based on looks alone but it doesn't beat out a guy who's good at being proactive - also assuming he's proactive in a non-sperg way. If you've got both qualities you're definitely set, but honestly these men are rare. Something about being inherently goodlooking means les…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:02 PM
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Definitely different from my circles then. Most men aren't "spergs" but they also tend to be fairly non-proactive in the presence of attractive women even though the men are all thinking the same thing. When they do try, it comes off as a bit stunted or unnatural. As I said, I blame so many people just being terminally online and it's been so convenient to never touch grass. This also applies to women but this doesn't hurt women in the dating realm nearly as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 09:34 PM
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I thought I was the weird one when I said I needed a little more friction and less lube to get off. Friends looked at me like I was some type of deviant perv. Turns out I was the normie all along. What a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 09:22 PM
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5'10 (I'm guessing. He's slightly shorter than me and I'm 5'11") Not short, but not tall enough to ever be seen as tall by women and definitely taller guys in his and our circles Although tallness is another thing that compensates heavily for looks. Tall extroverted dude? Face doesn't even matter unless he's hideous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 09:07 PM
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The blackpill is debunked constantly, it just seems legit because so many guys these days lack that type of extroverted socially competent persona and have stunted social development from being terminally online since the age of 6 so yeah if your aura is like a limp dishrag ofc you're going to think your looks are all that matter. Exhibit A friend of a friend, aside from a healthy tan and not being overweight he's a solid 5 but acts like a solid 8, talks like he has the biggest dick in the entir…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:23 PM
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Terms like Chad, Stacy, game, afbb, looksmax, canthal tilt, cuck, simp, pickme, bad boy etc are all very cringe by themselves, but we use them as simplified and convenient points of reference when arguing in the pillospheres.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:29 AM
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So contrary to that link the person a couple comments up posted, they do have a choice or other avenues of survival then. Plenty of people have no option but to apply for minimum wage jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:15 AM
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I was going to say, do 35-year-olds work at McDonald's or Taco Bell for the love of the game or what. What's stopping women from filling out an application and sacking up with 5 housemates to divide rent like her unfortunate male counterparts?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:03 PM
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They get attacked by terminally online men, not men IRL, and definitely not society at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:58 PM
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There are probably limits depending on your stats but I agree with your general sentiment. I truly think people who say social skills don't work don't know what good social skills looks like and vastly overestimate their own social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:54 AM
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Which means it's not really redpill. TRP is about how you can use game to get women even if you're broke and ugly. Whether it works or not is another story, but I'm a strong believer in social skills and uninhibition. Not sure if it'll work if you're a bridge troll and unemployed though, although I have heard stories of these types of men killing it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:36 AM
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Count the amount of men on here who regularly defend and argue on behalf of women and then count the opposite. Also as if women's spaces aren't rampant with the victim card. Yeah it's whataboutism. Your post once again implies it isn't the case and your sentiments strongly rely upon this false premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:03 AM
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That's your prerogative and understandable, but from what I've heard and seen in my circles there are many women who don't approach but have often wished certain men they found attractive would have approached them. Sometimes the men were unknowns or basically unknowns like customers at work, clients, people in a bar or club, and sometimes they were kind of distant acquaintances. So it wasn't apprehension about meeting strangers in these cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:56 AM
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The "it's all about hitting them where it hurts" thing doesn't ever work either, often bc the target is minimally affected, won't even notice or read it, or isn't even short (eg AOC situation). Instead, you insult the decent or insecure people with those traits, short or fat people who observe that despite the terrible things these public figures have done the primary sources of ridicule and contempt are their shortness or fatness. I am personally not against these jokes entirely, as humor has i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 12:17 AM
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None of those three do anything for me. Different standards and preferences indeed, but at least you aren't the one with the whole "north is better bc more white and european looking" take.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:59 PM
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Bruh to have the curse of women only at Freida Pinto's level dating you x)x)x)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:10 AM
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Aishwarya looks unique but does nothing for me, Ditto Hrithik but I don't swing that way anyway. Freida is near perfection. But it's interesting to be reminded of stark differences in preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:00 AM
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You guys are way too hung up on the color thing over there. That's why for some reason Aishwarya Rai is seen as ethereal and gorgeous and Freida Pinto underrated. Similarly, Moose Ali Khan and Sendhil Ramamurthy put Hrithik Roshan to shame but Hrithik's the household name.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:43 AM
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She mogs him wdym. Did his face stop growing when he was 12 or what.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:33 AM
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One forgotten and understated aspect of emotional labor, usually exercised by many men, is just putting up with shit, grinning and bearing it, and not saying anything while your gender is trashed or you're painted to be the bad guy while still having to internalize everything you hear and witness. Emotional labor isn't just about visible output. Also you hear about the extra emotional labor a woman put in to organize an entire day with a complete agenda on her bf's day off when her bf didn't wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:41 PM
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The greater context here is women putting the blame on men first for being the problem. Amid gender debate about who has it worse, these women are complaining about a group of men - ie the men they choose to date - to another group of men who are having trouble dating to begin with. It is this 2nd group of men primarily who are saying "choose better men then."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:23 PM
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i dunno, i don't know anyone IRL who uses reddit regularly although i'm sure there are more chronically online people today than like 10 years ago there are a few people in my circles who have an account but they comment like once every few months on like cooking or gaming subs granted regular redditors aren't going to broadcast it, i know i don't lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:17 PM
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If you're someone with a healthy outlook, social life, hobbies, and schedule, what are the chances you would feel a need to spend all your spare time posting and commenting about nothings here. I feel like logging onto this site wouldn't even be on your mental radar. It's not just reddit really, it's just people who find it preferable to stay online alot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:18 PM
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I have major doubts that anyone who says they're NT on reddit is actually NT The ones most likely to be NT are ones who use it sporadically, definitely not regular users like us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:09 PM
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Alright but you guys need to decide between whether young women are just going for Chad or there are a lot of women in LTR with these regular ass dudes. Presumably these women aren't post-wall or in the settle down phase yet. Personally I think relationships by nature feel like a chore, obligation or job after awhile. Initially it might be great but it wears off fast. I honestly don't know a way to get around it. Seems like the key to happy marriages or LTR is being okay with mediocrity and taki…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:08 PM
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I see everyone still dating and it's pretty darn hard to find a woman under 30 who's single - at the very least they are actively looking. The only people saying "women everywhere are okay staying single" never leave their house or circle jerk to 4B tiktok reels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:56 PM
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If they're swearing off men they find attractive it's unlikely these women are contenders to begin with. Like I said, zero chance of women as a whole swearing off men they find attractive. Nothing will change, the men who struggle will continue to struggle, the men who don't will continue to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:52 PM
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LOL women who threaten to cut off sex and relationships are always a hoot. These men they are directing their hostility toward aren't the men they would consider for sex or relationships anyway, and there's no way women in general are going to abstain from dating the men they find attractive. So it's just bluster for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:46 PM
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Saddest part about breakups is at least one party has emotionally already broken up or separated themselves from the other long before the breakup actually happens. Usually it's the woman. For whatever reason men seem to be a lot more okay with just a normalized mediocrity, for better or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:37 PM
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A normie on reddit, that'll be the day. I suppose anything is possible, although people proclaim to be normies all the time. A big example seems to be those guys who say they are socially active and healthy, six feet tall, 6-7/10 or rich and can't find a woman bc of hypergamy. Zero chance of these men being actually normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:16 PM
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She's a hypocrite if she thinks being fat is a moral failure and judges fat men for being lazy and not working on themselves to become more attractive. As is the case with many other traits, the people most fixated on shitting on fat people are often other fat people - or people who used to be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:11 PM
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There are definitely problems with social media in general, but I somehow view people who post mundane shit on Insta or scroll tiktok brainrot to be more normal and NT lol. Reddit may invite more "dialogue" and intellectual exchange but it also selects highly for the neurotic, autistic and introverted who will be drawn to such a platform to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:09 PM
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bartender or server/waitress in a bar or nightlife setting not many other places with clientele being horny young dudes and drunk guys
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:01 PM
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There are a lot of reasons, justifiable and unjustifiable for icks, and hypocrisy, coping, socialization, trauma etc are some of them. I'm not one of those people who thinks all preferences are sacred bc "I dunno, that's just what I like/how I am."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:54 PM
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Probably depends on the situation and ultimately nobody knows what's really going on through someone's head. A fat woman can say she's not a hypocrite for wanting fit men bc she just somehow gets the ick with fat men, but people are still gonna point and laugh I guess. I don't mind people laughing at me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:52 PM
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It's the entire psychological profile and tendencies, fringe demos etc that are super common on reddit. There is a chance a regular redditor won't be any of those things, is a completely normal well-adjusted functional person and is my ideal, but I'm not going to take that chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:47 PM
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Not a woman, but I absolutely won't date someone who uses reddit regularly lol. I would say it's not hypocritical if you admit using reddit regularly isn't healthy or indicative of a normal person. I suppose we all want things in partners we ourselves lack, in my case it's neurotypicalness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:35 PM
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It's just called being polite and diplomatic. I dunno what people were expecting like a cagefight or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:56 AM
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You can believe in not all men or even not most men and also be overly protective and cautious. Women who acknowledge it's not all men certainly don't have a problem w/ operating pragmatically on assumption that it's all men or defending their position.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:42 PM
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Fr there are dudes on here I somewhat respected outing themselves as on the blackpill ret@rd wagon lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 01:53 AM
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don't talk about my boy u/OffTheRedSand that way but in all seriousness that's not surprising, resentment toward the opp sex or sex you're attracted to or dating has always been a huge amplifier
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 10:14 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 09:55 PM
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They just have to be proactive w/ filtering golddiggers then. A man's financial stability and prowess is part of the calculus for normal women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:43 PM
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I'm realizing it's a lot harder to come to anything conclusive re: advice without actually knowing or seeing this woman's profile and looking for more subtle signs and nuances. What he's describing vs what I'm envisioning might be completely different. Although I gotta say, "I'm lowering my standards for you" is a helluva bold strategy Cotton to try to get a man hooked lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 09:03 PM
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I'm not the person you were responding to earlier. I was however taking note that you spoke of men as not being shallow and that you knew many great men in your personal life when responding to me, while speaking of men as all shallow, will fuck anything and not worthy of empathy and deserving disgust with this person. Just a contrast in blanket statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 04:42 AM
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After the physical threshold has been passed, it's not like men are super picky or demanding about likeability standards. But it goes without saying men have to like the woman just like you have to like the man. And the chances are high many men would find your core values sufficient if not fitting, most people don't have far-out views and even if it's political there's an audience for most prominent sides. If one eligible man doesn't, another will.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 04:32 AM
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Hopefully he got you started in your teens re: investing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 04:28 AM
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Is your dad just old for a dad or are you a millennial/gen x Seems like you'd be old enough to have solidly established portfolios too Historically market crashes periodically but eventually returns, so far anyway Maybe a problem if you need the $ less than 10 yrs down the road
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 04:20 AM
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Didn't you just say you appreciate men who go out of their way to buy Taylor Swift tickets even if they themselves aren't fans? Or to learn more about her hobbies even if they aren't into the same things? And...men somehow will fuck anything and have zero standards but also require women to look good? Physical attraction and stability are always going to be priorities not just for men but women as well bc that's just innately required in mating. Don't men have a threshold to pass before women ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 03:52 AM
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Does your surgeon dad not have investments
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 03:49 AM
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And why? Dick is cheap. Men will fuck anything. Men have no standards. And this, to quote you, is why I have no empathy for men. You all degrade us, call us whores, sluts, and worthless, say you'll fuck anything, but then whine when we are like, nah, no need to risk my health on you. So I guess this This is not a screed that men are shallow - I don't think they are. I've lots of good solid male friends and a husband who adores me, wrinkles and all. was just bullshit then, or do you blanket half …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 03:40 AM
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If you're a decent looking woman with most of her shit together at any age, the chances are high you're what a lot of well-intentioned men around the same age demo are looking for. You may not check off all of his boxes but few men demand that. I honestly don't think the men here see a relationship as just having sex regularly and hanging out between sessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 03:07 AM
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A relationship is spending time together because you - actually - enjoy each other, even if there was no chance of sex. He enjoys you, your thoughts, your dreams. He wants to know about you. He wants you to succeed. He remembers you like Taylor Swift and spring for tickets for your birthday, even if he loathes Taylor Swift. He helps you out when your family gets entangled in an IRS battle. It doesn't have to be love yet, but a like of you as a person, not as a hole. There are many men out there …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:19 AM
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that's why it's important to find someone who doesn't care at all about it rare but good things aren't often common
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:07 AM
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not surprising coming from you If the ultimate goal is a woman to stay loyally by your side forever the last thing you want is a woman who prizes looks. That means she'll look for other goodlooking men when she gets bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:05 AM
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I prefer she think I'm a 2 but still wants me. Such a woman is hard to find, but it ensures she's not shallow. And I don't mean like she finds me physically attractive bc of preferences or tastes. I mean she literally thinks I'm ugly but still decides to be with me bc of other things she likes about me that aren't money related.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:01 AM
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I feel like it's the reverse, esp for men. Single men and probably people in general consume and buy less. A lot of single men don't have very many expenses at all. When you put a gf, and obviously a wife or kids in the picture, his consumption skyrockets, which I'm assuming is what modern society wants and needs. I suppose this is more from a general lens rather than from say other men wanting to eliminate competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:53 PM
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It's not like men don't have friendships or hobbies they'd love to maintain, so she's meeting up or chatting with friends and doing hobbies which counts as leisure stuff while the man is working, so that's not 8 hours of work then on her part. Thus even moreso it's not unreasonable to expect her to have meals ready, how is her having hobbies and friends any justification as a SAHM?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:55 PM
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Doesn't matter how rich or goodlooking, shit gets old. Men get bored too, 10s get old if you see her every day. It's also not the same when he's a 10 but she sees him every morning on the shitter in sweats and a stained tanktop as she steps over him to grab her stuff for work while trying to untangle the strands of hair from her brush and then she sees random guys in public at their best. Just makes me jaded and not want to commit to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 05:51 PM
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Maybe you're right. I've concluded as long as I can have a good soup or sandwich every day I'm fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 05:47 PM
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Cavill is also getting up there now. I was remarking there actually aren't very many "hot" (either looks or fame) and young male celebs. Even Tom Holland, Glen Powell, Pattinson, Styles or Chalamet and some others that come to mind are around 30 or over. I don't mean to say there aren't any attractive young men in show business but more like hollywood celeb culture and worship eg the sex symbol isn't what it used to be, probably for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 05:28 PM
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Most girls say "Yea he was hot but he's old now." or "I don't go for overly square faces." Sign it's a different time or times have changed. In some people's defense young blackpilled dudes still constantly reference men who are old af or deceased now who were sex symbols back in the day like Marlon Brando, that model guy I forgot his name Gandy, Ian Somerhalder and so on bc they're circle-jerked over constantly in their forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 05:22 PM
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Maybe I should be flattered the Stacies who propositioned me or asked me out for drinks were in relationships with rich dudes at the time. The men were also goodlooking. I still think they were just bored. If a woman is bored just the right guy in the right place will do bc I'm way too feminine in some areas to be Chad. I also think I'm pretty funny and charming when I want to be. My conclusion still then is it must be rough out there for men to be in relationships and it doesn't make me want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 05:19 PM
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I could use a bowl of tomato basil and grilled cheese sammich rn
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 05:15 PM
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I doubt this. Many incels or FA type men display sensitivity and tenderness or traits that are traditionally associated with women in addition to struggling to strive for masculine ideals. It's the social skills, developmental disorders and difficulties, autism, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 05:15 PM
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true
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:11 PM
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Truly interesting to witness different people having different ideas. Aside from them being posts from two different men, they don't even contradict each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:34 AM
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I'd agree with that, but I think most feminists know that as well and don't really say otherwise. And many are definitely aware of the nonpermanence of their rights hence the noise, whether you agree with it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:15 AM
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I mean, the vast majority of men also rely on more powerful benevolent men for their rights. If you're going to excuse the patriarchy by saying it's only a small percentage of men at the top benefitting, you have to agree with this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:08 AM
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Biological, hormonal and genetic differences have as much of an impact if not more than environmental factors or socialization. It's pretty undeniable and I don't know why so many people argue so hard for one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:51 PM
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but they'll marry and date them for years with little or unenthusiastic starfish sex under the guise they are attracted, waste years or decades off of a man's life she doesn't 'disrespect' for his provisions? also plenty of women shit on these men esp when they aren't around, they just aren't doing it as aggressively or to their face directly for the most part
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:33 PM
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just asking no one's triggered by your question that's been asked 2098908 times on this sub lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:31 PM
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Why do women have zero respect for unattractive beta male provider guys but still want their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 09:59 PM
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You can't insult someone tall by calling them short. Then it's interesting none of the three men she called short are actually short. Yet her whole inference is that short men are inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:32 AM
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AOC actually did say something about Trump and Andrew Tate. She said she didn't know how tall Tate was but in her mind he's 5 feet tall bc of his values and politics, and then referenced a similar sentiment with Trump. Which was hilarious because Trump and Tate are obviously not short and neither is Miller so in the end she just insulted and revealed her disgust for short men - including all her short male supporters - for..reasons. Right after signing off on a campaign to draw awareness to toxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 10:12 PM
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She def has belly fat and just chub everywhere, wdym. I'd probably assume she doesn't carry any extra belly fat proportionately speaking like a lot of men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 09:57 PM
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Just googled her I've never been inside a Walmart but I'm sure you could find 100 faces just like that on a typical weekend afternoon there. If not Walmart maybe Target.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 09:29 PM
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Contrarily if you go by some research 400mg is close to the amount you need to reap the antioxidant-related and other neurological benefits of coffee. I'd say anywhere from 400 to 600 is fine, but 600 is upper limit and either try to space it out or don't drink too much after the early afternoon.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:45 PM
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This sums it up fairly nicely. Good news, personality matters a lot. Bad news, it's not necessarily a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:36 PM
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LOL the natural selection argument again. Not sure you would be down with what actually happens in nature. The most "fit" to reproduce are the organisms strong and brutal enough to maim and r@pe those into submission. So yes, the ugly ass jacked ogres with the most power would come out on top. An estimated 40% of pairings in natural are involuntary. The natural world is an absolutely horrible model to use for civilized human societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 06:38 AM
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Bc everyone at least in online male circles already is quick to criticize women for being entitled or with inflated sense of value which is true but forget this wouldn't be a problem if there weren't armies of these men willing to validate them and go all out for breadcrumbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:48 AM
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This makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:31 AM
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I try to see life as for 99% of times I feel ugh I'm just one good sandwich, soup or coffee away from equilibrium.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:05 AM
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But if this is the case why do S-tier beautiful female celebs who can have any level guy they want not go for male models and instead go for men with high status or other draws? Ana de Armas going for a geriatric post-wall Tom Cruise for example. Adriana Lima's ex as another. Sydney Sweeney (controversial I guess) and Scooter Braun? A lot of examples. I mean going by the argument everyone wants the best possible mate but it's a matter of whether they're willing to give in for less.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:42 AM
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This is simply bc there are more desperate men with lower standards. I personally can't understand it, even as a dude I'd rather stay single or jerk off forever than be in a relationship with a 5 I can't get on fire for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:39 AM
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Proof as in regardless of male gaze female gaze it doesn't seem like lesbians actually put as much work into their appearance, probably bc they get on just fine attracting other lesbians and don't need to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:38 AM
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Maybe just difference in experience then. I live in a progressive area with a high volume of LGBT people. I don't find very many lesbians attractive or especially in shape. I do see some older lesbians who work out a lot but they also seem to have other things like bland butch cuts and zero skincare. I'm trying to see it from an objective standpoint as well etc not only taking male gaze into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:36 AM
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I believe it and have seen it too, they just seem to be in the strict minority relative to the entire demo. The best way I can describe their fashion leaning/choice is like something classic out of the early 1900s lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 01:00 AM
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Reminder of proof that women don't care as much about looks, most lesbians dress and groom like they clearly dgaf. Straight [leaning] women and gay men on the other hand still care very much bc they are trying to attract men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 12:54 AM
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No empathy, this level of naivete shouldn't exist in 2025.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 12:24 AM
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I've gotten all of that as a dude in the past with service and nightlife industries. It's not gender specific it's a collective condescending expectation of people who work those types of jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 12:20 AM
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Tip or don't tip, nobody gives a shit. All these people making it a big deal, making social media posts about how they are based for not tipping are barely above the broke retail workers they look down on. Like they fell into something decent coming from their trashy ass background and think they're on the way to becoming billionaires and are in their delusional hustle era calling everyone wagies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 12:15 AM
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Those seem to be reasonable traits to expect from anybody. A lot of people just struggle with it bc they grow up with stunted social development, but this hurts men in dating way more than women bc these traits matter more when assessing male attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 11:23 PM
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we expect men to be a certain way and when they aren't we're disappointed What are some examples of traits that apply to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 10:45 PM
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"It says the majority of men are after the top% of women," who says that? If you're under 30 a woman of healthy weight who isn't a headache isn't rare. It's not top percentile in any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 09:38 PM
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Admitting women who aren't fat and not a headache are rare isn't the gotcha you think it is.. FTR I don't think it's rare, it's a realistic standard. You just can't be a socially awkward guy and expect someone like that. Or also fat, but that goes without saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 09:20 PM
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There are tons of women who lament about not being approached, about men just giving up too easily, and so on. I don't think it's the majority of women tbh, but it's enough that it's noticeable. I've heard more than once from women in my social circles how men need to "man the fuck up" and ask one of them out. I had a female secretary coworker at an old job with her eye on a client she thought was super attractive and ideal. When I asked her how things were going with him she looked sad and said…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:07 PM
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Which one would you rather date?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:03 PM
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Guy on the right is obviously more attractive. Guy on the right also looks weird, uncanny, not ideal. The ideal for women looks a lot more normal than men think, they like masculine features and angles but with a hint of softness, not to the caricature levels that are obsessed upon by autistic blackpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 07:50 PM
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It's similar with the fitness, supplement, and beauty industries. Supplements are almost 100% snake oil (relative to marketed claims, not that they do absolutely zero) unless you're talking about basic shit like protein powders, multivitamins or proven things like creatine. The best workout is really just any generic ass program you'll stick with, and most creams are overpriced moisturizers. If anything the beauty and cosmetic industry for women is more established and is a type of "conventional…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 07:40 PM
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Not enough info to say. Obviously him donating a kidney is huge but that doesn't rule out the possibility that he indeed did stop putting in effort, as a lot of guys tend to do. That being said, if it were me I'd have my doubts and sabotage it just to be safe unless I knew for sure what went down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:57 AM
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You probably aren't as sexist as you think you are, and even then a lot of things deemed sexist online or on reddit are just in line w/ or subscription to more traditional gender norms which many women IRL won't have a problem with, including masculine presentation and behavior. Many probably even prefer it although if you ask them they might try to say something more PC.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 02:58 AM
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It's just a fact normies aren't preoccupied with a lot of things ND people are. In rare instances this extra thinking yields something amazing and great for society. In most cases it just reinforces anxiety and neuroticism. The chances of any one YouTuber providing any value or life-changing insight due to his unique or alternative take on politics or health is very low despite what they advertise, but not impossible. The possibility of them being unhinged, biased, misleading, disingenuous, clic…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 02:02 AM
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Yeah I'd pick the 1st guy if you have to pick, but keep looking if that's on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:44 PM
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PhD and starting his own company alone aren't guarantees of anything, I'd go with the 1st guy. Tons of intelligent entrepreneurs fail by the day, and there's not anything in his personality to compensate for his lack of physical appeal even if his company takes off.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:40 PM
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when did i frame that as a positive? although I will say the people who trailblaze and make the most important strides for humanity will always be different, but for the vast majority of different people they are just that. Weird. I say the same thing about alternative news and media vs mainstream news/media. There's that one diamond in the rough that's worth something, but most mainstream stuff is actually superior to weird alternative stuff just by virtue of being "normal". Most weirdos are st…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:35 PM
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The book clearly mogs the movie into oblivion, as timeless as the movie is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:06 PM
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I could say the same thing about women in many online spaces. Spending a lot of time online just isn't a good way to gauge humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 09:58 PM
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They're still more normal than neurodivergents. NTs have a couple things weird about them and the NDs have many more than that. From observing a lot of both NTs just really have no or much less of a problem subscribing to societal norms and living day to day life without thinking about too much, although that's not to say they don't have their own struggles. When they struggle they still seek solutions in the context and framework of mainstream thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 09:30 PM
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You should realize nothing in this sub is representative of real life (thankfully). There isn't a single normal person here. If you're answer is "well nobody is really normal" then the people here are even one step further than that or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 09:04 PM
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It's just desensitization. As a kid your parents taking you out for pancakes or dessert is the best thing ever. Over time it just gets old since as an adult you can do it anytime you want. I still can't recreate the joy I had just staying home on a Saturday eating pizza and playing video games even though I can do that now as I please. Also just too much instant gratification and options with the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 09:01 PM
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This should be a universal thing though and I'm not trying to be contentious. Life is really all about appreciating and taking pleasure in the smallest shit, otherwise you'll be forever dissatisfied and wanting. I know a few women who feel this way also and it's a great thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 07:27 PM
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Don't forget those women who tweet things about how they are confused or disappointed after they say they aren't interested and the man stops trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 07:25 PM
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There are arrogant people who can back it up and arrogant people who can't. Either way it's not someone I'd want to spend time with. In the eyes of some people, maybe the easily persuaded and charmed, arrogance hints at value and competence so it works in their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 02:57 AM
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I think nazism is still very much specifically by definition antisemitic (and/or pro northern european) in focus, what you might be describing is just general fascism - the appeal to emotion, the bogeymen and scapegoats, lack of or faulty evidence and science - which is definitely what nazism falls under. Specifically tho correct me if I'm wrong but the anti-trans thing seems to be a competition of narratives? I definitely see trans issues being over-represented whenever the left or progressives…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 02:44 AM
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Hey, be glad it happened. Lotta guys would do anything for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 08:12 PM
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It sucks bc - and I'm going to give a lot of people the benefit of the doubt - a lot of this conspiracy shit is followed by people who would never subscribe to nazi ideology (at first) so it's a gateway thing. A lot of anti-vaxxers, "cures the govt doesn't want u to know about" are stay-at-home moms with nothing better to do or people who are just kinda out there, "Doing their own research" and think they're smarter than everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:50 PM
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You're a good dude I wish nothing but the best for you. Hope you've been feeling better lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:44 PM
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Haha that's ok too. I hate hotpot though x)x) like here's the food, I work here but you cook it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:42 PM
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If she's not okay with just walking in the park, small picnics or coffee at first she isn't it. I'm not broke but I need to know she's the type of woman who's okay with modest means as that speaks volumes about who she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:39 PM
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Maybe. The best mimics are autistic but the vast majority seem to be at the other end, which is why so many of them struggle with women. It's more about being understated and subtle to come across as convincing the same way there is more danger in overdoing rather than under for doing good accents. A lot of guys obviously go overboard or the result is a clear stark contrast and difference to who they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 10:56 PM
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Taken from a locked post, a woman saying "We can tell when you're performing" Trust me, you can't. And if you can, the guy sucks at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 10:24 PM
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If we can accept makeup and heels we can accept RP workshops. Difference is makeup works almost 100% of the time, RP training won't because a lot of the men seeking help are irredeemable bc of a variety of factors. Inb4 "everyone knows about makeup and can tell when women are wearing makeup tho" "tell me you haven't seen a woman the morning after w/o telling me"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 10:13 PM
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Huge real-life difference between attractive men and men who pay for courses teaching them how to be attractive even if what they teach is legit. If they are at the point of shelling out money they (well, a lot of them) are probably not in a position to ever become the type of man women are drawn to, as a lot of what makes a man attractive has to seem organic and natural. Both men who take these RP workshops as well as the women who are the target of these things don't realize this when debating…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:49 PM
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Sure, what I said isn't limited to the left, but I don't think Democrats would ever do anything to disallow the filibuster either. It's an archaic stupid childish function in the system that never should have been allowed to exist. Even moreso with the government somehow being allowed to shut down. Also there's no inconsistency as long as none of these people complaining about the Dems caving were the ones going on and on about loss of SNAP benefits just a day or two ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:29 PM
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So lefties say Republicans were at fault for keeping the govt shut down, decrying longest shutdown in history but now they're mad at the Democrats for opening it back up? Almost like their outrage was performative because they have no real life problems e.g. college kids who grew up in nice suburbs finding it's trendy to be rebellious but we all know a lot of these people are also much older. And just so many archaic things in govt I can't believe were ever allowed to exist in the first place li…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:10 PM
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Initially, on sight, yes. But if there is interaction or any significant amount of time spent together (like say coworkers or even in a club/nightlife setting) then social uninhibition and charisma can put many average looking guys into the game. Goodlooking guys are automatically let in to play - which is an unfair advantage sure - but if they can't handle it they're sidelined eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:40 PM
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Hot take, wanting attention and companionship with non-overweight women is not being picky. If he can only get overweight women he's doing something wrong. Pretty sure no woman wants to be called picky or accused of entitlement bc she doesn't want to date the typical guy you see in a Walmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:01 PM
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lmao suddenly i don't feel so bad anymore but you're also queer so maybe a straight woman would think differently
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:47 PM
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I would say the guy on the right is too skinny but yeah overall men are terrible at knowing what women find attractive. Blackpillers even more bad at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:44 PM
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farmer's markets, organic food, i dunno if that counts
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:41 PM
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He looks much better here than in the first picture, is that even the same dude? Face in first was super wide and eyes looked overly squinty. Edit: Just looked up his IG. That's probably the best picture of him since it's the only one where he doesn't look like an orc caricature.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:35 PM
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She looks like a sad emo dude. Or a young Nicolas Cage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 03:00 AM
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That ranking is only bc of number of adherents. If they all had an equal amount of adherents blackpill would clearly be the worst and shittiest. It's not a coincidence men who follow the blackpill tend to be the most autistic, socially stunted, terminally online and isolated, desperate, or in the worst of life situations, regardless of whether it's their fault or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:19 AM
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It's human nature partially. Like I know you rage-bait constantly but I still take it because I want to talk about it or provide a rebuttal lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:23 AM
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I mean maybe not L rage bait since it worked. On me anyway lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:11 AM
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Ironically Elon Musk is often grouped into the incel category because leftists and maybe liberals don't like his politics and the fact that he's rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:08 AM
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How about some context. I have no problem with feminists or women talking about mental health or even focusing primarily on women's mental health. I have a problem with this being used as an example of "See, women do care about men, you guys just care about getting your dicks wet." as a ppd rebuttal as per your post in the main just bc men also have mental health problems. And women's issues have been prioritized at the expense of men's issues in the mainstream for how long now yet no one calls …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:54 AM
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I've helped way more older/elderly women with random shit in public than young pretty women. If I didn't genuinely think you were a good dude at the core (albeit a bit troubled) I'd accuse you of projecting. It actually is way easier and feels better to help the former because you don't have to worry about her thinking you're just trying to hit on or interact with her or try for something more. Even if they would potentially like me back, attractive women strangers are scary and I avoid them on …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:46 AM
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"So you guys aren’t really about male issues being fixed, you’re about men being coddled at the expense of women and women’s issues." You use words like coddled to make it sound bad, but all in all a certain group's issues highlighted at the expense of the issues of another has been par for the course for feminists and a lot of people pushing for women's issues. Yet it'd be taboo to say feminists are only interested in being coddled. My point is there is very little targeted and specific attenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:39 AM
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Articles or campaigns spearheaded by women to raise awareness about mental health are the only thing I kind of see, and it's not male-centered or specifically discussing how boys are esp in trouble, not just with mental health but academics and such. It makes sense that a lot of women are invested in mental health in general, bc clinical mental disorders affect women more than men at least as far as the research has found. When toxic masculinity is brought up, it's almost always framed in how it…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:11 AM
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No they don't. When was the last time a feminist, one of the "feminism is for everyone, patriarchy hurts everyone" types, used a mouthpiece to voice their concerns and push awareness for male suicide rates, men falling behind in school, the trivialization of male sexual assault and rape victims, problems with gangs and such? Women saying they care about men too is like conservatives saying they care about mental health every time they feel their gun ownership rights being threatened. I'm all for…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 01:47 AM
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Is it like how having sex with a prostitute is illegal but if you film it and try to sell it for money it's okay bc it's porn and the woman becomes an employee of your business?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 01:42 AM
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Exposure desensitizes and warps people's perception too. If you're around fat people all the time then even a chubby guy starts to look skinny. That's how you get all those people in the south or in rural areas asking the guy with 27 BMI what his secret is to being in such incredible shape or remarking that he needs to put some meat on his bones.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 01:29 AM
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I've always been confused how some people get banned here. Unless I'm missing something she literally just says random innocuous things or asks what people eat for protein and gets booted while self-admitted trolls thrive. I'm just going to assume it's some off-sub or discord drama or beef with mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 01:24 AM
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I wouldn't say she's objectively average. She has facial "flaws" according to terminally online blackpillers but it's obvious she's prettier than most random women out in public. I like boobs but I'm not even talking about her boobs yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:21 AM
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I mean I kinda get it? But let's say you take someone like Sydney Sweeney. I can say she's very pretty to me, but also can kind of see why some people would say she just looks like the girl next door. But I wouldn't ever call her a plain jane or average.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:14 AM
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Cmon, none of that explains why you called him an average man. I feel like you just throw that term around to troll or ragebait people lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:08 AM
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He said a lame movie, not one of the greatest movies ever made.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 04:57 AM
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Do you work in the gaming or board game business by chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 04:22 AM
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I thought you said he was the hottest man alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 12:15 AM
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As a feminist, or anyone really, you can't argue that you can smell misogyny on a man and then say many r@pists - "most" even - are unassuming and are guys you already know and are friendly with. All I'm going to say is statistically the 2nd one is absolutely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 12:07 AM
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There are degrees. Same way a lot of liberals who spoke of Bush Jr, McCain or Mitt Romney like the antichrist would kill to have them back when considering Trump 45 and 47.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 12:01 AM
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Sure, preaching morals while electing a guy who has publicly done a lot of immoral shit is hypocritical, but not in the sense and way you were wording it. They thought NYC was a liberal shithole bc of Cuomo before and now they think it will get even worse bc they think Mamdani is even worse. It's obvious in most of these contexts politically people care more about the policies or representation than the candidate's past personal behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 11:50 PM
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Bc they think Mamdani is even worse. There's no hypocrisy there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 11:45 PM
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"Because misogynist typically say and behave like they are misogynist" I'm sure some do, but many don't. There really is no arguing this. Aside from just that it's obvious many men can be closeted POS, you have armies of women defending their past dating decisions bc "I didn't know his true persona until it was too late". It really isn't that hard to pretend/mask like a normal and personable individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 11:42 PM
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That's the thing with a lot of neurodivergent men when discussing these topics is they think everything can be broken down into clean equations and variables as if things like love and affection and human want aren't incredibly complex. When they seek to improve their looks, they obsess over achieving what they deem as ideal ratios, angles and measurements. Like "women can get sex immediately with a click or swipe, women can get emotional support from their friends, what's the point?" In their d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 06:18 AM
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I've had skyr a few times and it was kinda bland so I stopped eating it. Is skyr just bougie yogurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 03:08 AM
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If you're fat and okay with dating fat women then losing weight or getting fit will only improve your success and options. Some men would argue/observe due to hypergamy some fat women are not okay with dating equally fat men. Also most men won't see a lot of loose skin after weight loss. We're talking like going from 27 BMI to 23 BMI, a significant improvement with face gains as well. Like you said, we are mostly talking about average guys standing to benefit the most (thankfully most men are av…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 03:00 AM
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And most men are around average, so on average self-improvement is useful. Self-improvement works for most men as long as you're improving upon the right things in the right ways. If you're fat and never shower it's not going to do you much good to just work on personality, and if you're very socially offputting buying more expensive clothes and mewing isn't going to help, and for that matter mewing is bullshit anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 12:09 AM
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Those both are in fact what bluepillers say at the same time, whenever convenient It's almost a meme for bluepillers to rail against toxic masculinity and then make fun of the men they disagree with for being virgins. Also see Alexandra Ocasio Cortez and her random trashing of short men in the middle of heated political argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 12:02 AM
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What was the meeting like where they agreed to go with the name PsychoPy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 05:59 AM
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Depends how unattractive and why they're unattractive. It's not either/or. FWB doesn't require top or even esp good looks. Just a dude who looks normal enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 05:51 AM
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It works the other way too. When blackpillers are confronted with evidence that social skills, hypersociability and uninhibition get results they suddenly say that's part of blackpill bc of bad boy/dark triad status.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 05:47 AM
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They found these men fuckable because of the entire package basically, most likely due to their uninhibited hypersocial bad boy demeanor, not due to their raw looks. Bc lookswise they are not Chads in any sense. It's my opinion the amount of men who are so ugly that no amount of self improvement makes them attractive enough for at least some women (fwb or not) is very low. There's a chance you're one of these men, but I wouldn't know bc I don't know you. But overall my point is that fwb looks st…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 05:43 AM
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I don't doubt looks are more important for some people, but the sheer amount of normal ass looking men I see taking women home makes it hard to believe. I have a couple friends who are straight up dogs, hit on anything that moves yet don't have low standards either. Social uninhibition and just the right amount of humor/jokes and gab for some back and forth plus the consistent desire to fuck. A lot of better looking guys don't enjoy their success bc they don't have the extra push to socialize an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 05:37 AM
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I feel like a 2nd reason would be necessary if there are equally convenient, free, vastly superior, widely known options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 01:25 AM
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Why would anyone use reddit for porn when there are actual porn sites
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 01:17 AM
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Anorexic people are definitely affected mentally from caloric deprivation (as well as physically ofc). Re: fat people, having enough calories is required for optimal brainpower, having extra calories either makes no difference or leads to health complications that can also directly or indirectly negatively affect brainpower, cognitive function and mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 01:17 AM
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It's one thing to say "well that's human nature", but the left literally runs on intersectionality and tolerance as core buzz words and values.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 01:14 AM
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It is for the 9872405th time, not "the" problem that evil asshole men can have no problems getting women. The problem is everyone - media, editorials, family members, well-meaning friends, peers, community leaders, platonic women, telling men who struggle with women that their problem is they are assholes, toxic, not feminist enough, not good enough listeners, and so on. Apologists be like "Well we don't know anything about these men individually, ofc we're going to give them this generic advice…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:18 PM
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For questioning the hive mind, I've been banned from subs from pussy ass mods who also disable the option to message them back like they're afraid you're going to contest or even message them to ask why. Either cowardly teenage autists or those with a similar social developmental stage of them comprise most reddit mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 08:59 PM
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My logic is "She likes you now, in this moment, who knows how she'll feel tomorrow, much less next week/month/year." People get bored, people change, I never know who's trustworthy and who isn't, but that's life and I'm not a gambling man. Also had no idea you were British lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:38 PM
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That's exactly how I feel. I've gotten attention and proposals from baddies but since she's a Stacy I see no future. She's going to get constant attention from other dudes, and she'll be more easily tempted to act on things after she gets bored. Obviously there are exceptions and "good women", but I'm not of the mindset to bank on them. I'm also completely unwilling to play RP games like maintain frame and pretend I'm someone I'm not indefinitely so she'll stay as that sounds exhausting. I've ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:28 PM
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Ok sorry kink is a poor word. It's a word used ironically like I do it so much it probably seems like I like doing it. More like coping mechanism or crutch to deal with anxiety. If I mess things up myself now and quickly, I don't have to always wonder if/when things will fall apart later. It's like relieving myself of a burden even if a normal person wouldn't see/react that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:23 PM
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One time a girl I had just met and exchanged contact info was texting me after a party and I kinda freaked out from the pressure so I started texting back super nihilistic things about how life is pointless and enjoy the decline so she'd get weirded out. It took a while but it worked, she stopped responding. I don't know why I couldn't have just been more direct if I simply wasn't in the right state of mind for anything to progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:20 PM
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I've passed up a lot of opportunities. It feels bad but honestly not that bad when I realize it wouldn't have worked out anyway bc of my mental problems and self-sabotage kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:12 PM
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Improving social skills is part of improving personality. In that respect it does work. Also indirectly having good social skills makes women perceive you to have a better or more substantial overall personality. That last part isn't right but that's the way it is, the same way a goodlooking guy is perceived to have a better or less dull personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:08 PM
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Depends on what aspect of behavior you're referring to. If you're talking about improving social skills and awareness, depending on the guy it can be way way easier to improve your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:08 PM
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The novels are also just stories. Obviously in an ideal fantasy the man not only is from old top 0.1% money but also has won the genetic lottery at the same time. With just the right amount of bad-boy roguishness in that he is unpredictable and exciting but will find sufficient vulnerability to change and open up to the woman and provide a sense of stability bc her feminine wiles changed and tamed him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:02 AM
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LOL thought that was pedro pascal on the left at the beginning for a sec there
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:57 AM
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Sure. But that's more just how nerds are in that they have stunted or slowed social development and that goes double for more neurodivergent ones. Genetically they aren't any more likely to be hot or hideous. Aside from the unfortunate hairloss Musk looked like just a kid in the left picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:52 AM
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None of those guys are ugly af. Just maybe skinny or pale, awkward expressions due to being nerds. They aren't romance novel cover gigachads like depicted in billionaire borderline bestiality smut for women, that's it. Most men aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:39 AM
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Again, you don't need the specifics to just say something more substantial than what is normally given to men. And again, if you care enough to give advice, why not ask for specifics? Better to risk "offending" someone than again to just spout off the most generic useless shit. It's actually expected from people who don't care - but then at least don't pretend or act like you do - and it's a problem even from people who do care. Maybe the world is just incredibly blue-pilled, and most are still …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:42 PM
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There's often not even a broad generic hint at improving appearance or dress. Just making excuses again. "We aren't mindreaders, we don't know what your problems are, ofc we're going to just say be nice and a good person." If you cared at all and don't know why someone's having a hard time, why not ask for more specifics before just dispensing livelaughlove-esque platitudes? In the context of a reddit discussion, that is kind of the point isn't it. To have a discussion. If you don't give a shit,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:22 PM
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Agree to disagree but her expressions do kind of make her look harsh or stern.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:52 PM
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You'd have to gauge this with a post with an actual ugly person. Since she's decent looking despite RBF it muddles things. But yeah it's not unthinkable that an ugly woman would be told she's a queen and gorgeous and a man told he needs to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:50 PM
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Speaking only for the west coast, the white jock look is definitely not any less popular here. WA and OR are especially caucasian-coded and leaning af despite all their talk of diversity and inclusion. The "hipsters" women go for are just conventionally attractive chads in retro or flannel clothing and muh microbrewery and farmer's markets.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:33 PM
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It's hard for me to give these people dispensing advice the benefit of the doubt, because when men bring up how this advice doesn't help the response is usually dismissive if not downright hostile. "You're lucky we gave you anything to begin with." "You didn't know looks, status and money and social skills mattered? Are you 10 years old?" Much more likely people are just parroting what is socio-politically correct and harmless albeit useless. "Just be yourself, just be a good guy, be a good list…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:28 PM
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Yes, exactly, but it's always been like that, not just Gen Z or Alpha. Even my grandfather was the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:22 PM
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Maybe try to meet some spanish speaking friends although I assume you already have some bc of the wedding. It's infinitely more fun and useful (and helps you get better faster) when you're applying it regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:16 PM
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Young people have always been more liberal bc it's easier to be idealistic and push for change, entertainment of all types of ideas with zero actual solutions when you're less established, less jaded, or lack life experience. As you get older you benefit and come to have more investment in the system and tend to defend it despite the system having many flaws. Both sides have blind spots because of their current life circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:13 PM
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Language and the arts are good hobbies, I wouldn't stop, even if it's not instant gratification like being ranked in SF~
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:06 PM
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Yea I get it. The SF comment was just a tangent lol bc I used to play too. If you need a break you need a break, video games are great as long as you aren't overdoing it or just using it to waste time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:57 PM
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...It's the lower tier men who are most likely to ask for and need help. Why wouldn't and shouldn't advice be catered to the bottom tier or those who lack looks, grooming and dress advice or social skills. I don't understand this explanation and stupid justification like "Yea we tell you to be nice and caring and kind bc I dunno bro I thought you already had the other shit down." Seriously like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:55 PM
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I don't see how the answer would be anything but a resounding yes esp since the cheating is done under the understanding you'll be paid 10 mil and the other partner actually knows about it and is allowing it. It's not lying or betrayal then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:50 PM
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If confidence is inborn due to naturally/genetically acquired physical superiority you wouldn't get tons of onlookers singling out men who are confident but shouldn't be like "Where does he get all that confidence" despite his physical "shortcomings". There are plenty of insecure goodlooking people and plenty of average to subpar confident dudes running around. Not going to deny often times confidence is due to past experiences of success but it's not nearly that simple. People are just born wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:36 PM
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Yea man, and I hope u don't stop smiling. I remember looking through some of my pictures and I could always tell when I was going through a rough patch because the smiles disappeared. Not trivializing what you're going through but if you can help it don't let the light leave your eyes - women gravitate toward that and notice when it's gone - and keep playing Street Fighter. Although it sucks women like us most when we feel our best and it isn't always our fault for feeling bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:25 PM
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Soyboy face with beard is a hit with the progressives always
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:38 PM
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yup
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:14 PM
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Bro you're goodlooking you look like Lakeith something. Forgot his last name x)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:08 PM
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Yeah if a woman were to be rude the mainstream would justify or support it by saying "she has a right to be mad."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:04 PM
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Conservative estimate: Goodlooking guy gets fit, improves from 50 to 60 Average guy gets fit, improves from 5 to 40, does tons better but still not as good as the hot guy if he never worked out. Optimistically an average guy also gets face gains after getting fit, so maybe more than 40 since he's now also a goodlooking guy. Strength training and leaning out also can reveal genetic-based advantages in insertions, build and frame that were hidden previously, it's not just about the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:56 PM
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Building muscles means a ton as long as you don't overdo it. In fact it's the average men who stand to gain the most. A goodlooking guy doesn't need muscles to do well. An average guy going from meh to a fit body will go from getting almost nothing to getting decent results. Again assuming he's not socially hopeless. Probably depends on the guy specifically but he may or may not be able to do as well as a goodlooking man who does nothing all other things created equal, but point is it does help …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:50 PM
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Looks threshold isn't high. Think of a man with a good job, relatively fit (enough), good social skills. All things women want. To pass he'd just have to look decently groomed, maybe no glaring facial flaws. If a man struggles it's more likely he lacks in the first three. Which isn't really a knock on them, it's not easy to get a good job or have good social skills (unless you're born with it) and weight control requires discipline. When you're mentally compromised there's no guarantee of anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:44 PM
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OLD is different and skews/forces women to judge only based on looks. When women finally appraise the entire package IRL, it's no longer the best looking man who wins. If it was as you say then all the top-tier celebrity women who could afford to be as picky as they wanted would all be choosing male models, but they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:38 PM
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Why do people speak of leagues entirely in terms of looks? If you think looks is the only thing that matters then whatever, but most people believe it's not the only thing that matters and a sizeable amount believe other traits matter equally or even more, from both the nature and nurture camps. Those who believe personality or other things matter more or equally to looks still speak of leagues this traditional, conventional way. Why is someone dating a better looking person dating "out of their…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:48 PM
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I recall there were a few mouthpieces a while ago coming from the dads of the guys throwing down lol like saying "Just because my son is about to date your daughter doesn't give you the right to treat him like shit or a potential criminal, come at me." I guess parents will always tend to side with the interests of their kids even if it means being toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:55 PM
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Why are you talking like you don't also live there lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:52 PM
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It's always been like that but the internet obviously makes it 100x worse with the sheer volume of exposure. Most "news" is bad news - or designed to stir up negative drama - for a reason. Nobody clicks on good news. Also a lot of "news" you see now are editorials in disguise if not borderline political advertisements.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:49 PM
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Kinda the same way fathers are the most misandrist group. There are a few examples in this sub even I wonder just how many fathers just become full on misandrist, hateful and suspicious toward men just bc they have daughters or they start moving dramatically politically left. Plus the trope of any type of torture or rough time a dad gives a dude about to date his daughter being completely justified in the mainstream like it's a joke but not really. In part benevolent sexism, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:42 PM
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Whiteknight is only overused online and even then only in manosphere or certain spaces. IRL defending women is always going to be encouraged and cheered on; the men who would otherwise call you whiteknights won't do it in IRL for fear of being called a misogynist or public shaming/ostracization and other consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:39 AM
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I think everyone is wired differently and how one learns [most] effectively differs from person to person (hence the downfalls of our education system), but I learned mainly by watching socially successful people. Just tried mimicking them at first and then over time merging it with my own quirks and temperament.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:33 AM
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I think it was your comment yes. Thx for the input. Strangely enough the relationship between my father and I seems to somehow be more volatile while at the same time I am less open with him than I am with my mom so it's not necessarily about emotional boundaries in my case. Maybe between men (not just father and son but between male friends) the potential for things to blow up or cause drama lies in them holding things inside and letting them build up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:14 AM
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I think there's something more to it. Something about how mothers treat their daughters differently from their sons or how the mother-daughter dynamic is distinctive for better or worse. I am fairly comfortable opening up to my mom about my feelings and life situations and there really isn't any drama. I wonder if things would be different if I was a woman. Maybe I'll ask my sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:30 AM
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But then why isn't there something similar with moms and adult sons?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:23 AM
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Why would it matter. I don't expect my therapist to have all their shit together, being fat is just a very visible and stigmatized manifestation of weakness but everyone has them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:45 AM
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Picking up off of something I read earlier in this sub. Why is the relationship between an adult woman and her mother so potentially strained and volatile if they live together but there isn't the same thing with a guy and his dad? How much truth is there to it? What is the difference (or plural) inherent in the woman-mom relationship vs the man-dad relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:39 AM
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Again, weight loss and tanning, more very easily changeable characteristics compared to height or face structure. I'll be the first to say a lot of men are actually hurt by social incompetence more than looks, but there is no comparing your disadvantages to actual genetically disadvantaged men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:06 AM
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Tons of people have glasses or contacts, bad skin during the teenage years, and braces is practically a rite of passage. It's not comparable to being short or neurodivergent as a guy, or structurally ugly for either gender but facial structure matters more for men. Yours were the most common changeable characteristics. When men say genetically unfortunate that's far from what they mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:02 AM
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Cmon now badger you've been on the internet long enough
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:43 AM
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Never found Emilia Clarke that attractive, but she clearly looks better to me on the right. She's smiling, face looks slightly more defined, she looks less soft and potato-ey. Lighting is also better on the right, everything about her looks more bold and striking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:49 PM
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"a majority of the guys who look 38-42 are fuckable" Haven't you always said you find very few men physically attractive? This is the complete opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:16 PM
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My hunch has always been that most men who say RP doesn't work or the incels who shit on RP incessantly are autistic or similar-ish in profile. If an autistic guy tries out RP strategies and executes them poorly the result is going to actually be much worse than if he had never heard of RP at all. The men who find themselves in the position of paying large amounts of money for coaches or boot camps are the least likely to pull off anything they're taught convincingly bc everything needs to seem …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 06:45 AM
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It's how I understood it b/c that's how a logical person would understand it considering your wording and referencing cars in a general manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 06:32 AM
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It is weird. I said it was weird myself in another comment lol. But your initial comment implied it's stupid to have cars as a hobby. "Who cares about cars?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 06:17 AM
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Sure but that's different from ridiculing car hobbyists as a whole. Also this isn't any different from women showing off their outfits or contour or posting 32 selfies a week on their insta. Their hobbies are still makeup and fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 06:15 AM
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Most hobbies are inherently pointless but all that matters is you yourself enjoy it. Who cares about video games, skiing, pickleball, paddleboarding, fashion, makeup, stamps, model airplanes, watches.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:45 AM
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american half east asian half white
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:34 AM
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Yeah sometimes I forget not everyone in reddit lives where I live lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:32 AM
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Land cruisers go for 60-70k and that's assuming it's a most recent year, hardly trust fund or daddy's money tier unless the dude is 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:17 AM
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Is it a Slavic country. Idk why but there's something about obsessive-compulsive repetitive photos of cars or car parts that gives me a feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:15 AM
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I've given a general example in another comment. The example is similar enough to the other examples I've encountered. Feel free to search the sub-threads under my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:13 AM
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I know it's not you lol I guess I just used "you" as a way of writing as if I'm talking to a general you (or him).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:11 AM
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I've given a general example which is pretty representative of all the other examples I've come across. Usually female friends with the best of intentions consoling otherwise solid hardworking kind male friends who are struggling. Everyone's in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:09 AM
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Sure. But why do you have so many pictures of the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:07 AM
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That's the only way I've seen it used IRL but sure the world is a big place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:06 AM
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I've only seen struggling men being called husband material. If the man is doing well, there's no need to call him husband material because he has other good things people could be raving about him and it also just goes without saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:05 AM
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land cruiser gxr why does he have 45 pictures of the steering wheel that's more of a red flag than the car thing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:04 AM
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"Nobody is calling someone husband material as a rejection" We live in different worlds then, or maybe I need to specify it's less a rejection and more consolation so you don't have to give some men the harsh truth for why they are struggling. This comes from the actual woman involved, other well-intentioned friends male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:57 AM
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I'd say there's been many many discussions about this vs being able to pinpoint an exact origin i.e. way before reddit or even computers. My main point isn't what husband material actually means, but more how it's usually used in practice. It's like the term "nice". You don't use these "compliments" unless you have absolutely nothing better to say to/about them. My close friend is certainly nice, but there are a million other good things I could say about him before resorting to just calling him…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:51 AM
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Wanting to fuck is a type of genuine attraction. If genuine attraction in any way at all favors the presence of other traits why are these so-called "husband material" men who have everything else except the "just want to fuck" factor coming up empty?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:45 AM
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I've never heard a woman call her actual husband "husband material" isn't that silly? It's again all about how it's actually used IRL. As someone else mentioned a few days ago there's also just a huge difference between calling someone husband material vs calling them that in obvious retrospect after you've already decided to commit to them or accept them as a sexual and relationship partner and the latter would just be unnecessary or obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:40 AM
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Nothing in my experiences and observations has told me the term is actually used for its actual definition. I'm sure it's occurred before, but the only times I've seen it used are as consolation masquerading as a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:38 AM
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I've heard girls in my friend groups talk to and about certain struggling guys on several occasions in the past, with the best of intentions perhaps, "Don't worry, you're the type of guy women want to marry and spend the rest of their life with" It's just used as a compliment but is really double-edged if the recipients really think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:37 AM
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That's also valid, in that hookup material implies genuine attraction. Many of these "hookup material" men are also enough to be husband or boyfriend material - the difference is people never feel the need to call attractive men who do well with women "husband material", because as I said the term is [mostly] used to make unsuccessful unattractive men feel better - or to virtue signal - regardless of the actual definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:32 AM
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I forgot who was discussing this recently but nevertheless it comes up every now and then. Blue-pillers ask why some men have such an averse reaction to being called "husband material" because the term refers to a man who is the complete package and checks off all the boxes. Handsome, kind and caring, charismatic, intelligent, mentally and financially stable with healthy social circles, hobbies and well-respected in his community(s). The answer to this is undeniably true. On paper husband materi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:27 AM
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no offense taken lol I know a lot of it is mental for me problem is mental is one of the hardest things to overcome, and that's assuming people realize it's their own mental issues to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:57 AM
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Yeah that's what I'm saying is even in present day, it seems like beards on some guys are considered hot (maybe if the guy is already hot?) and beards on some other guys are considered creepy looking. These guys aren't necessarily inherently ugly, maybe just for some reason it doesn't suit them as well. There are also men who have facial hair that's just poorly maintained but that's another thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:52 AM
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Makes it hotter
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:50 AM
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This is one of your least male-bashing comments lol. Pretty easy to agree with, esp for long-term purposes nobody wants to be with someone who just objectifies them sexually, physically or as a wallet or pathway to status and lifestyle. I'm hoping instead of a diamond in the rough straight up "unicorn" it'll be sufficient to just find a woman who just doesn't care as long as she vibes well with the person. Maybe not super common but I don't think a woman like this should be super hard to find, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:46 AM
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That's why as unrealistic and hard as it is, I refuse to compromise in only being ok with a unicorn who doesn't give a fuck about looks or money and only likes me for who I am - and even that is not a guarantee things won't change for the worse later on. You can be goodlooking, rich or high status, if you seek out women who value your looks or wealth or standing - as in those were her main reasons for choosing you - you sack up with the type of woman who will constantly use you for validation, l…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:59 PM
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I feel for a lot of men struggling because I believe and know their struggles are due to mental and psychological issues even if they say it's b/c of other things, and these issues are esp taboo to bring up for men and also very difficult to fix if it's possible at all. But I do think this male loneliness epidemic thing is overblown. Like people saying it was a big reason why Trump won. The fact that almost an equal amount of women voted for him plus how men are more likely to vote right/convser…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:38 PM
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Where are you coming up with this strawman that men want to give up specifically bc women won't get involved? Seems like the men who do give up do it for many reasons, most involving their own circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:27 PM
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I think the science behind that is iffy as in there's more genetically going on than simply higher T = more hair. In any case you see some men lauded for their facial hair and some men described as having pedostaches when in both cases it involves facial hair above the lip.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:46 PM
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It's interesting that bad grooming (especially staches?) is associated with creepiness too. The guy could just be weird, depressed, incompetent or going through a lot, but the perception of creepy comes down to not being sure if someone is a threat, and weirdos are less predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:41 PM
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Why are mustaches and facial hair - maybe bad or unattractively groomed facial hair - associated with creeps? Even my mom refers to random men in public like "that creepy looking bearded guy" once in a while and tells my brother and me to make sure we remain clean shaven. That might be a big cultural thing too bc facial hair isn't as big of a thing in asia but even here where supposedly mustaches can be considered cool and beards on men often considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:38 PM
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I speak only for myself. I piggybacked off of the sentiment of being concerned of the consequences of being falsely accused. People argue as if you're afraid for one side you're against the other side because it's a zero sum game to them. Like I'm afraid of false accusations, that must mean I assume women are lying by default. Par for the course here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:42 AM
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...Where did I say I choose to assume she's lying? But if you run the risk of losing your job, your reputation, the things you've built, and your circle of friends even when proven innocent, a 10% risk is going to be high enough to warrant apprehension and discussion. That's just a logical response from a logical person, about anything. We'd think the same thing if it was hypothetically about jaywalking. If I'm concerned about 10% of college students being illiterate am I choosing to assume they…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:32 AM
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Stats show percentage of false accusations with rape or sexual assault are similar to that of false accusations of other crimes, which is around 10%. Given the social stigma and guilty before proven innocent and all that surrounding the subject matter, 10% sure seems pretty high.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:25 AM
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I don't have any stats to back it up but just from what I've observed I have seen average men take women home or have casual sex with women on a regular basis from having an extroverted outgoing personality. These men aren't necessarily "assholes" per se but they aren't the type to be shy or afraid of saying things bc they might not be PC or super sensitive to everyone's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:17 AM
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Personality changes too and is by no means static or lifelong even if "base temperament" oft stays the same. It can get worse within the relationship as people become more jaded, tired and weary, bored, or baggage accumulates. People's priorities, preferences, interests, and key positive and negative triggers can also change multiple times esp over decades. All of this I would say is more likely to negatively impact a relationship because I'm assuming everything chemistry-wise was peak ideal at …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 01:40 AM
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The most doomed men are the severely autistic or socially stunted. There are also the very inherently, genetically ugly, but this is a very very rare and small group. Purely lookswise the vast majority of men can pass the looks threshhold of at least a decent amount of women if they put in a solid effort. There can also be men who are stuck in a state of being physically unattractive because they lack the mental fortitude or facilities to improve their looks in an effective manner, but that all …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:16 AM
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"It's all about personality" is kind of an absolute statement and it'd be more accurate to say "Social skills matter a lot or even the most" when it comes to dating success. Aside from the semantics between personality and social skills, I don't think the statement is all that inaccurate. Ofc there are exceptions, and ofc genetics matter. Obviously a bridge troll is not the same as Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:15 AM
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That's all fine and dandy, but I don't call it "kind" if you do all the right things and give them your time when they're there and then shit on them to your "real" friends or even other acquaintances when they aren't around. If this behind-the-back disparagement didn't frequently occur the trope of women hating each other wouldn't exist either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:11 AM
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I have big circles, and yeah certainly some parts of them aren't that great and I go out of my way to stay away from the drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:06 AM
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If plenty of average looking men can have high social status and proficient social skills and successful dating and sex lives what's the relevance of you talking about associations with inborn looks aside from "life sometimes isn't fair"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:51 PM
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It's not just being nice, I've seen women who are allegedly close friends, who spend their entire waking time together, shit on each other viciously when they aren't around. I'm speaking in generalities ofc but at least anecdotally speaking I've never seen this in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:49 PM
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Plenty of normal ass looking dudes with high social status and good social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:43 PM
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My point is you don't, but women are pressured to put on a show of being friends/chummy with other women a lot, so the chances of women running across another woman they dislike or have nothing in common with but still having to fulfill social norms or biological programming is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:41 PM
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I'm not talking about a general politeness. I'm talking about people pretending to be close and good friends with someone else, go out of their way to spend time with them, post pics together on instagram, and then talk shit about them when they aren't around or sabotage, undermine, and socially exclude them as long as they aren't in the know. Men are still polite/"nice" to other men they aren't interested in being friends with they just won't join a group with said men and participate in activi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:38 PM
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I don't think women naturally hate each other or are backstabbers even among friends any more than men are. The difference is I think women are more programmed to at least put on a show and seek out communal approval and camaraderie, so the chances of them doing this with women they genuinely secretly dislike or have no interest in being friends with is much higher. If a guy has no interest in talking or bonding with certain guys he just ignores them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:15 PM
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As I said, genetics will always matter. There are some people born rich, born taller, born goodlooking, born with natural social streetsmarts, born with more neurotypical profiles, it's not fair and you will always have to work harder than someone else to achieve the same results depending on where you're lacking. Nevertheless, it doesn't change the fact many men would see a vast increase in their dating success and sexual prowess if they improved their social skills. Nobody is saying looks, mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:09 PM
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People always forget or have a warped idea of what is average. An average face is inherently attractive "enough" assuming sufficient youth and health and you put that on a tall athletic body it's way more than sufficient for most women. A tall guy who struggles and isn't especially fat or ugly most likely has major social skill issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:07 PM
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<image> The reward for being good at your job is more work, often picking up the slack for less competent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:01 PM
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Problem is they aren't bots.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:59 PM
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Very faulty analogy and I can't believe I'm defending a Lilith post but not only Chads get casual sex or relationships. Genetics will always matter - as will many other factors out of people's control e.g. class, intelligence, social development, support system, but you don't need to be an NBA player to get play. Spending any significant amount of time in public or nightlife proves this. Also as you said when people say "personality matters" they really mean social skills, personability and char…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:52 PM
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It's just Han everywhere, depending on which province the local Han have a history of intermixing with whatever groups in that area but it's just one designated group overall. Nevertheless there are still some general visible differences you get depending on whether it's north/south/east/west but there are also plenty of exceptions. Hence why people up north look more like Koreans or Mongolians and some in the south look more like SE Asians. As far as I recall reading the people in the south ten…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:20 AM
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Xi is like 5'11" which is slightly above average for northern chinese people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:40 AM
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If they weren't what I described, they wouldn't be saying things afterward like "giving a poor guy a million dollars LOL" Just callin it like I see it. Also I never said that everyone who dates someone less attractive fits into that category, just that it's a problem if they see themselves as some type of saint making a sacrifice or doing a favor, so you reflexively reacting like that is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:01 PM
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Excluding [some] pro athletes, bodybuilders, dudes on cycles, what is the percentage of men with 27 BMI who are that way bc of high lean mass? 99% of the time the man either looks bad or would look significantly better if he dropped some pounds. People really using that "BMI isn't an accurate indicator of health" argument as a crutch for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:24 PM
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This is a based strategy tbh. Tell fat men they are the real men and should get even fatter to reduce your competition. Take a page out of the playbook women have been using for ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:00 PM
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Looks like a gamer's dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:00 PM
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Interestingly if you want to talk about trends the ones who are open to socialist/communist far-left ideologies dislike what the USSR represented or was and the ones who won't stop railing against socialism and communism think the USSR and present-day Russia are based.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:25 PM
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The relationship is unhealthy and doomed from the start if you fancy yourself as doing the other person a big favor. You go through the entire relationship feeling like you're owed something and will harbor perpetual resentment. Everything that comes to bug you about him will magnify this underlying sentiment. Then when things go south it's "That's the last time I ever give an ugly guy a chance, but see what a good person I was." But you ran the cost-benefit, saw he was below average, and still …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:03 PM
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Coming up with clever things to say may be the result of other pursuits and experiences in life aside from simply a public speaking class such as reading and being exposed to more ideas from different people. If I'm being honest a lot of the things that score well with audiences is mainly just me remembering funny situations from accumulated experiences and relating them in a dry manner. There are other related skills like realizing when is a good time to insert said story into a conversation an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:49 AM
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You might just be projecting your own experience onto the rest of the population. There are many testimonies of people making vast improvements in the public speaking realm which extends to the ease with which they interact in casual conversation, myself included. Comfort and "less anxious" are also a matter of degree, and some enjoy greater improvement in these metrics more than others - with other factors being involved ofc as well such as pre-existing mental illness and psychological profile,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:38 AM
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Most people fall in the middle, someone might have to work harder than another to get the same results bc they aren't as gifted but that's about it, practice makes perfect or at least significantly better. The guys who are so talented they don't need to work at it and the guys who can't see improvement no matter how hard they try are the very few minority at both ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:26 AM
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Nah man, honestly some therapy would probably do me some good even if it's not going to be a quick bandaid and it might not solve everything. Tried meds but didn't like the side effects, so far I've had some moderate success just limiting stress triggers and leading an active busy life, which can somehow seem paradoxical. Sometimes when I have things to do my brain doesn't have time to do its destructive cyclical rumination spiel. Should probably moderate the coffee intake too but that's gonna b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:09 AM
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It's more just like my mental issues, ocd paranoia etc worsened a bit over the years and made me less trusting and willing to go out and meet people or date anymore. I think the worst part of it was nothing terribly bad ever happened, it was just kinda the effects of daily stress wearing me down. Even at my most NT I was kind of the nervous type.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:03 AM
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Not taken but I met my most recent gf at a fundraiser reception type thing and she was one of the many people I kinda met and shook hands with. It was all just brief conversation, some contact information exchange for professional purposes really but then later on in the night after I had already left I got a few texts from her asking me for more of my thoughts on the things we had talked about and whether we should meet again to talk. This was like 3 years ago and I was still fairly neurotypica…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:58 AM
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I suppose I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:43 AM
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LOL that's what I mean then. It makes little sense and cheating will always be wrong but a small part of me was annoyed that they [maybe] saw him in such a bad light to begin with. For all I know maybe he did come with tons of red flags and warning signs, but all I heard was just putting down his looks or situation or status as a man - again, how lucky he was that she was with him - and not so much mention of past behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:12 PM
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That is also a possibility. I am not particularly close to this group of women so I have no way of knowing and I don't do that gossip shit. Although for specification the woman who was cheated on wasn't there, just her friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:03 PM
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Overheard a group of women at work talking so much shit about this guy who cheated on one of their friends. Just endless shit about how it's crazy he was the one who cheated, how ugly he is, how much lower he is and how lucky he was that she was dating him. FTR I will never justify or say cheating is okay but damn for a little bit I honestly felt defensive for the guy based off of how much contempt they had. Imagine how much they talked behind his back and already looked down on him before he ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 09:48 PM
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It's hard to take Dutch seriously it's like goofy German.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 03:44 AM
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He wouldn't be the one looking back with a hand gripped around his neck then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 03:33 AM
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I've always said this. Women here be like "The average woman is middle-aged and fat, therefore if you want a thin young woman you are entitled and just want the top percent". They'll say this shit without batting an eye to young college men like "Well I mean you're struggling aren't you, beggars can't be choosers." Seems to me like the solution is to tell women to stop being fat. If men all became overweight neckbeards overnight we wouldn't be telling accomplished pretty women they need to lower…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:26 AM
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Reddit is full of circle-jerking comment chains where you're just like "WTF are these people fr?" I guess for every dumbass take there's going to be those looking to hop onto it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:44 PM
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Yes, but the chances are high if any one man is complaining about being too ugly he actually isn't. Percentagewise not a lot of these men post their photos online, but I've seen quite a few over the years and can probably count 1 or 2 that are irredeemable and understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:35 PM
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smh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:51 AM
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We're talking about/assuming these guys know there's a possibility of improvement but are too used to rotting or unwilling to leave their comfort zone. There are very few men who can't [significantly] raise their chances by self-improving. Including the irredeemably ugly, who are extremely rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:49 AM
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If they are unwilling to change then they are voluntary not involuntary celibates by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:28 AM
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The ones with actual deformities are a very small minority, and ofc have never posted their photos (understandable). A lot of the rest may talk as if they have deformities or severe flaws, just like male incels do, and it's usually the result of dysmorphia. There are tons of men in the looksmaxxing forums who think their faces are badly recessed when it's more like their face just doesn't look like Minecraft Steve bc their standards are so fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:26 AM
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I mean it is politics (in this case left-leaning progressive and feminist driven narratives), but frankly it's moot b/c politics is in everything, and politics and dating are very much intertwined.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:26 AM
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You don't think women - not to mention with the entire backing of the mainstream media - complain about men? About their politics, about their behavior, attitudes, whathaveyou. Or that it's not socially exponentially more acceptable to speak of men negatively? The tiktok reels lamenting the lack of eligible men or where are all the good men? A lot of these places where men congregate online are shitholes for sure, but they are there only (so far anyway) for a reason, bc critique of women would h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:57 AM
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Great texture, tastes like coins.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:21 AM
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Women don't think men should judge them for things like high N-counts, OnlyFans, or having a whole ass baby but it's understandable if they ditch an otherwise normal/good guy who chews weird bc of the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:09 AM
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Most are severely chopped? How many pictures of femcels have you seen, esp from voluntarily posted photos on femcel forums and not just the isolated poster ones that get passed around everywhere as examples like the St Blackops guy among incels. Dude probably wasn't even an incel or part of their community(s), they just used his picture because they thought he was ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:04 AM
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The only Scottish guy who sounds like that is Sean Connery, or maybe I just haven't heard enough Scottish people talk. (But I feel like I have?)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 02:08 AM
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Yeah might be a bit much if you're coming from being completely sedentary. I'm sure you'll find the happy medium though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:36 PM
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Those images...aren't too far off from reality in many cases. Just like most incels, most femcels aren't ugly and many are probably above average due to being obsessed with working on their looks. It's the mental part that's severely fucked, which also tracks as she does look mentally unwell in the left drawing at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:31 PM
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Unless the pain is debilitating in which you should cut back and rest bc you overdid it, regular achiness is just a sign of your body adapting. A lot of times exercising while still having mild aches makes them go away probably due to increase blood flow and the associated speedier healing or muscle repair and growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:28 PM
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The aches are natural when your body isn't used to the exercise on a regular basis. They'll go away over time if you keep doing it, or at least your threshold for intensity before the aches set in will become a lot higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:18 PM
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The ADA did not pay me for that comment. I'm just a fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 09:40 PM
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Ok but I'm just saying the reality is if in your current situation the way your jaws sit naturally now your wisdom teeth are going to give you potential problems down the road the solution is to let the dentists fix it. There are definitely greedy ass dentists out there but it doesn't apply here unless they are frauding your x-rays. It's not like you can get retroactive palate or jaw expanders to help fit the teeth in and this is assuming the teeth aren't impacted or damaged already.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 09:35 PM
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I wouldn't say the wisdom teeth thing is a scam. It's true due to soft refined diet our jaws simply aren't growing as large or wide as those of our ancestors to accommodate for the extra teeth, but the proven result via x-rays is that a lot of people either risk or already have impacted or damaged wisdom teeth, sometimes all four. It's purely structural and there's the risk of all types of infection or health complications. At most you can argue that paleolithic or ancestral diets are superior b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 09:24 PM
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Well you did say it was one of life's greatest pleasures whereas if you ask me plain vanilla missionary is superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 09:07 PM
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Gonna assume he's talking about women he's considering for long-term mother of his future children deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 09:06 PM
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Vaginal feels better than anal. Maybe it's in large part psychological for me as in knowing that's how it's "supposed to" work. I also prefer viewing women from the front vs the back even though I like asses obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 09:04 PM
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If you consciously know your beliefs on paper heavily align with textbook Redpill then it doesn't make sense to specifically identify as Bluepill even if you disagree with the methods or attitudes of a lot of Redpill men. Again, unless you're just doing it because you're motivated to argue due to personal stakes, emotions and hostility. E.g. if you (a general "you") think most of RP is correct, you just don't like that men are upset about it and may treat you badly. They're free and maybe justif…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 08:33 PM
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There are guys here with blackpill in their flair text, even if there's no official blackpill flair available.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 08:31 PM
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I don't agree with the wiki then. Or at the very least, self-identified bluepillers think their animosity or dislike for RP followers is sufficient to identify as bluepill, when an equally if not more large part of blue-pill is anything aligning with conventional mainstream advice and belief. More importantly, to bring in the Matrix metaphor all this is based off of, the bluepill literally represented the artificially created world serving as the shroud over everyone's eyes and the redpill serve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 08:15 PM
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It's not that I think plain looking caring men can't find someone, I just think mainstream society does an incredibly poor job dispensing advice to men who fall into this category and are struggling, bc it's all just platitudes like "be a better listener" "do you have any toxic elements of your personality that should be eliminated?" "make sure you treat her with respect" instead of getting into the blunt nitty gritty of acquiring a more attractive, sexually and physically, aura, impression, app…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 08:02 PM
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The flairs in this sub are meaningless when everyone has a different idea (or misunderstanding) for what each pill represents. You have hordes of bluepillers who believe looks matter above all or that nice caring men don't deserve shit bc they're broke and ugly. They believe all the harsh realities pushed by the manosphere; the only difference is they dislike the RP and BP due to personal stakes/interests and the default argument often comes down to "Tough luck, deal with it." or "Duh you didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:50 PM
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I don't understand men who say "What's the point of trying, if all men try the top standard will just go up". We will never get remotely close to that point. Most men already know they would be more attractive to women if they got in shape and did better with grooming style and dress and still cannot be arsed to put in minimal time. So much for an epidemic of desperate lonely men willing to do anything for scraps. People talk about the looks threshold as if it's not incredibly low. Even among th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 03:22 AM
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Like the baristas with broken dreams making better lattes, the midwestern moms with emo edgelord pasts make better green bean casseroles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:30 AM
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Then that's the fault of the people assuming, because I don't believe individualistic or collectivist attitudes should infer any ideology. There are many collectivist conservatives and many individualistic liberals. And actually a longstanding trend is for conservatives to value the interests of the group and liberals to value personal freedoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:26 AM
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As someone unfamiliar with those terms "aggregate prevalence" and "distributive trends" it's possible the point was lost on me but overall all I'm seeing in googling stats and surveys is ultimately the percentage ratio of identifying as conservative vs liberal for men and women are not that different. Maybe statistically significant according to academic standards? But to me certainly not to the extent of it being justified or understandable to paint men as "much more likely" to be conservative …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:51 PM
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It shouldn't be surprising, it's been that way for as long as human behavior has existed and also was conventional knowledge up until the internet got big and everyone got blackpilled bc they had zero charisma and personality from poor social development so ofc they think it's just looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:08 PM
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Social uninhibition game always wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 09:56 PM
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I'm the first to be critical of male sexuality being shamed but I honestly don't think people care about men stealing glances at yoga pants asses in public if only bc it's so expected, common and deemed natural as long as it's brief and he doesn't lean into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 09:55 PM
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That's why you should always take personal responsibility and be proactive even when the odds are unfairly stacked against you. At the same time that doesn't mean, in discussions re: what needs to be changed or tweaked in society, that the environment and social mechanisms are irrelevant and nothing can or should be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:58 PM
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Nah the cards you were dealt and the environment you grew up in as well as your current one matter also. As does personal responsibility and actions. People need to stop debating as if it's one or the other or even more one or the other. Stats show significant upward class mobility is rare for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:53 PM
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There are FA women who say they get literally nothing from even the most desperate old or ugly losers among men. Bar extreme deformity I just find that very hard to believe. Unless again mental illness is heavily skewing perception or prohibiting them from ever leaving the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:11 PM
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I know quite a few conservative couples where the women are even more conservative than the men. Although there's a high probability maybe these conservative men selected for these women. These women are also fairly to very collectivist and value contributing and playing a strong, prominent role in their communities. Conservatives tend to be more discriminate in which groups they value or care about but I don't think a lot of them are particularly individualistic. If anything they can tend to va…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:07 PM
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I wouldn't be so quick to give her the benefit of the doubt that she's irredeemably ugly. It's possible she's that 1 out of however many million who gets zero male attention even of the shallow sexual variety but much more likely she has deluded overly high standards and severe mental illness, social anxiety, autism etc. In the post she says she's a kissless virgin at 30 which could literally be bc of anything else as experiments show even morbidly obese pig-faced women get [many] matches on OLD…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:48 PM
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I'd have to look further into the research but at a glance it doesn't negate the fact that women voted for abortion to be left up to the states in large numbers and vote re: reproductive rights similarly to men even if it's not quite equal - a major source for the anger and outrage directed toward men after the election on Reddit. When women talk about men voting against women's rights esp reproductive rights they conveniently discard the fact that almost as many women voted in kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:46 PM
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Ah yes, the men are in a desert with nothing while women are in a swamp filled with bad options spiel to make things sound even. Which means women have a quality problem with their options but men also have a quality problem in addition to a quantity problem, and the quality problem is actually much worse for men as well due to the quantity problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:08 PM
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A lot of women just straight up admit targeting men for criticism because it's the men they are arguing with on here despite conceding almost an equal amount of women agree with and voted for the things they despise. I don't see how anyone can actually believe the man=conservative woman=liberal thing even as a general rule unless they are extremely sheltered and terminally online, and not even online in general - online in like very specific hivemind spaces they've restricted themselves to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:02 PM
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I would say they were taller than average and well-groomed and cared for with nice clothes due to being well off, but that's also the class/social circle she's in and she's the same way. Facially I wouldn't say any of the guys (whom I know of) were anything special, and I don't know much about their personalities, so it's hard for me to confidently draw any conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:34 AM
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I agree tbh, charisma and social skills are hard to develop and maintain if it doesn't happen naturally or some kind of spectrum or adjacent disorder is involved. Still, it offers another significant angle that either infringes significantly upon or almost ousts the conventional blackpill mentality completely. For the record though 110 super salesman charisma is not required. A lot of guys simply have no problem intuitively jumping right into conversations with people as if it's the easiest thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 12:11 AM
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Being into cats or "doggo's" is just like another one of those trends that start online and everyone hops on it because it's such a safe thing to join in on with little to zero social risk for weird or ND people like "Herher animals are so much better than humans amirite?"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 11:25 PM
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lol yea i figured, but tbh i've seen normal dudes pull hot chicks on charisma and social uninhibition alone and ofc status, both real and perceived, matters a ton no matter how many times it's denied here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 11:23 PM
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"Don't go for chicks and then complain that you're not getting any." Based and just-be-gay pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 11:13 PM
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Maybe some unsolicited advice but going through your post history you say you're 5'7 and 170 and still worrying about not being big enough which is common faulty thinking among many men. I don't know your BF level but either way if it's looks you're after I'd suggest cutting. You're either too fat for what is ideal or visible for women or you're too big mass-wise if you're low BF or both. I dunno what you look like facially but wiry and compact is always in demand. At 5'7 i'd say 140-150 with lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:56 PM
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There's the trope of the average looking (or ugly even) man who has to develop a personality, wit and charisma to compete with his better looking counterparts, so it's not nearly always that these men develop poorly socially. Also again it's not a black and white thing, I'm not saying a 5'3" 3/10 in the face can be a hit with the ladies, even though it's not entirely unheard of. However with the "right personality" I don't doubt he can find a woman willing to date him who is above him in looks. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:31 PM
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Halo effect being legit aka taller, better-looking men getting more lenience doesn't negate my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:27 PM
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Plenty of women are meh or undecided about a guy at first and become more attracted later. Many such cases. It's also a matter of degree, obviously if he's really short or really ugly it doesn't apply. In the vast majority of instances it's "he's not quite as tall as I'd like" or "he's not really my type" and other qualities push him over the line as she gets to know him more. A lot of men who say this is BS simply don't know or have never witnessed what an actual charismatic or socially profici…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:22 PM
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My conventionally attractive female friend once told me "Any guy with the right personality can get any girl." On its face it sounds ridiculous and long debunked but I agree with her in a general sense, assuming things like the guy is relatively normal in most aspects ie not irredeemably ugly, not broke as shit, not weird af. The main thing is "the right personality" is fairly rare among men esp of the younger male crowd online as they lack the social development and skills to display that type …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:14 PM
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LOL I have an opposite-ish issue. I love tall women and while I personally don't mind dating women above 6 feet, if we're talking about starting a family I'm not sure I want hulking monstrosities as kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:06 PM
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What I'm saying is people want the attraction but also consider traits they regard as non-negotiable for pragmatic reasons as unromantic as it sounds. I had a woman friend tell me she refused to ever marry a black guy because black people experience discrimination and are at a disadvantage in society and she didn't want her kids to experience it. It's dishonest to pretend many women don't think about the height of their potential sons when sizing up marriage material men. Re: my friend, whether …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:54 PM
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The fact that I've heard a lot of men say this, without considering or caring that they might have daughters with manly dimorphic features ie "I want my sons to be Chads" makes me wonder if they just haven't thought it through or that it's much easier for women to be seen as attractive. She can still be seen as attractive despite being tall or with a square jaw but a man absolutely needs those and other immutable dimorphic traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:32 PM
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He's just saying out loud his version of what a lot of people are already thinking, including women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:30 PM
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Sounds accurate to what has been said about the difference(s) between male and female libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:29 PM
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He misses how much less horny he was or how it's different? Did he mention anything further or specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:04 PM
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99% of people here will never open their minds. I just make my own point and move on. Hit comment to shitpost and then go to work lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:13 PM
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They don't let you play SF6 on your Switch 2 in those meetings huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:03 PM
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There's a lot of gray area re: wage gap which allows people a lot of room to push their narratives and throw out all types of bullshit at the dartboard and hope it sticks. At the lower levels of say retail work yeah everyone is paid the same. But there's the issue of women being pressured to leave or put their careers on hold, pressures to pursue fields that happen to be lower paying as per gender norms, and also salary negotiation on the part of both the employee and employer at higher levels. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:01 PM
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Well, until [some] women need to defend their past dating decisions and then it's "Most of these men don't show their true colors until it's too late."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:30 AM
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I'm going to give some women the benefit of the doubt that they are just naive but this is astoundingly common. My friend had a brand new male coworker, not even from the same dept, ask her to go for a walk repeatedly during lunch and she literally thought that he was just trying to be friends. After I talked to her about it she was still a bit doubtful but was like "hmm I dunno...maybe you have a point."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:11 AM
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LOL "loophole". Yeah just like the loophole of me not wanting to hunt, kill or grow my own food as my ancestors might have so I go to the store to buy it. They call it the world's oldest occupation for a reason. Also as if people aren't already selling their bodies, resources or labor and entering in all types of relationships with all types of unstated contractual requirements even if it's not specifically sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:08 AM
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Best answer in this post. Shows observational intelligence and awareness instead of the usual cookie cutter responses driven by surface-level gender war narratives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:25 AM
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If I recall correctly it wasn't just that, it was things in their profile specifying they had a history of rape or sexual assault or were registered sex offenders. Or subscribed to nazi ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 05:20 AM
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Aside from bigger chin on the guy which is obvious they have the same long nose and proportions. Again he just looks a lot worse bc of his weird expression, smile, paleness, and everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:18 PM
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I guess in the same way women overrate other women. Honestly to me they look pretty similar structurewise. She's just made up and has much better style. Obviously he has a bigger chin. I guess the fact that he has no lips isn't helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:15 PM
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Sure u can say whatever you want, no law saying replies need to make sense. Free country x)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:05 PM
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"I 100% disagree with his claim that women aren't taught how to treat men, so he has no point for me to address there." Well then just elaborate upon that instead of inferring socialization doesn't matter and young impressionable people can just brush it aside by exercising personal autonomy and accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:46 PM
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I wouldn't say he's mid, but in any case mid doesn't equal ugly. White guys have always been able to bat above their league easier, but honestly without her makeup raw lookswise they are probably close to matched. His style, posture, and expression just screams very awkward, autistic even and maladjusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:35 PM
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This doesn't address the point which is the standards men and women are taught to uphold for the opp sex. Like saying broad socialization from a young age doesn't matter bc people can just reject it and live their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:34 PM
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Sure, but he's not a good example of proving ugly guys can get attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:13 PM
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I mean the dude isn't unfortunate looking he just looks very awkward, terrible style, needs to get some sun, weird teethy smile. Chin juts out a bit but I'm sure some women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:53 AM
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Ironically the blackpill sleeps on the masculine trait of big prominent or longer nose, which is actually more ideal for men. I hate my shitty ass small feminine nose with insufficient projection. So Al Pacino being the goat makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:05 AM
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It's another blackpill fixation. IRL I've never heard women say they find them attractive and all the men they gush over have those beta puppy dog eyes despite having other masculine features. Although as far as I can recall you don't have hunter eyes either or at least they aren't those mean looking ones ie fairly feminine and not long or narrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:09 AM
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People have always solidified their views before they first come here. Nobody jumps into an argument to learn, compromise or have their mind changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:06 AM
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You don't think the left has a narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:35 AM
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Just like all of reddit and the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:34 AM
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I don't think I follow what you're saying. People say "girls just go for all the bad boys" because there's already the initial premise, practically an omnipotent one we're all told or have believed as long as we've been alive, that good men get and deserve [good] women. If it didn't run counter to anything, there'd be no reason to say "women go for bad boys" which is inherently incendiary. From a broader perspective it's like being taught that being good invites good things and crime doesn't pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:24 AM
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I'm fairly certain whenever people talk about bad boys attracting women it's within a discussion/context of men being told to be nice and caring to increase dating success, or at least the premise that women are or should be attracted to good men even outside of dating/gender debate. Most of the time anyway, and definitely when on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:17 AM
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Because morality was brought in first to explain to men why they are struggling with dating when morality is irrelevant. The irrelevance is key, not that good looking people are immoral and ugly people are better or vice versa. The men responding with the concept of the shitty albeit handsome man are just responding to this garbage advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:11 AM
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She tried to highlight the importance of personality and argue against specific men for their beliefs - instead she basically just ended up saying she's repulsed by short men. Actually ended up indirectly affirming the value of Donald Trump and Andrew Tate as decidedly tall men lol. A tone-deaf schoolyard bully-tier misfire out of literal left field, like however I thought about her politics I thought she was at least savvy and mentally stable. Like I said, akin to a zionist making fun of people…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:31 PM
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They choose to continue to fuck up. There is tons of noise directed toward them that they need to change and they won't do it. They've had so many chances and they still have chances but they won't take them bc of how deluded and arrogant they are. Even in their last-ditch effort to push Kamala through the best thing they were willing to run with to appeal to men was to ask men to think of the women in their life. You can't convince me they couldn't have come up with something better, they simpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:13 PM
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It almost always doesn't [primarily] involve looks, it's autism, mental illness or being fucked in the head. When they post photos they are rarely ever ugly and honestly quite a few goodlooking people. Dysmorphia is caused by many things and favors the neurotic; even if rejection is involved there's absolutely nothing that doesn't say the rejection wasn't blown completely out of proportion or misinterpreted from said mental illness. It's also just funny from a baseline that bc they think the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:03 PM
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No need for long-winded diatribes, just say you agree with the popular femcel tenet "All men are shitty so might as well choose a hot one." as a cover for everything you guys do. File that alongside "I tried dating a short man and he was awful, that's the last time I give short guys a chance give me my cookie now."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:12 PM
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It's funny how the venn diagram with the Radfem/Tate-tier misogynist, Far-Right, and Vindicta/Looksmaxxing/TRM circles all overlap so much. It actually doesn't make sense objectively but we're so used to it, people who fixate on hating the opp sex also fixate on their own looks or have all types of body and facial dysmorphia and think they're ugly. Paints the accurate picture of a terminally online failure in life susceptible to grifting videos. It's like all their beliefs, politics and interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:03 PM
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A lot of men complaining are under 40 if not 30, so regardless of the past they probably don't remember what it was like for men to be "the center of the universe" so at the very least (among other things) your adaptation spiel makes zero sense as if they were living a life of privilege and suddenly shit changed and they couldn't deal. They aren't boomers (older boomers at that) who long for the good ol' days when they could casually throw out the N-word and slap a woman on the ass in public wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:53 PM
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She's attractive in that everything fits just right in terms of averageness but there's nothing striking or special so some guys don't know why there's nothing that really grabs at them the same way some women like distinctive features in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:48 PM
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I'm surprised she got such a high rating considering how OCD TRM/QOVE-adacents are about big foreheads when rating looks. I personally don't mind them but the people who frequent those types of places were never known for their consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:46 PM
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The male equivalent(s) of that sub were banned 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:44 PM
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It's also illegal in many places to shoot a rapist, but because of how abhorrent it is on moral grounds there is a lot of room for argument. Breaking into someone's private home is despicable and regardless of legal debate I don't know why anyone would choose to defend perpetrators of this crime in any other conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:27 PM
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Because it's a huge transgression to invade someone's personal sphere of comfort or safety with potential for significant trauma; could even see older people or those with health issues dying and suffering healthwise long term as a result from fright, shock or the aforementioned. It's again a gigantic breach, "I was just gonna steal a few things" is zero justification FOH. The level of violation is honestly similar to that of r@pe as far as I'm concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:49 PM
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Get in the robot, Hot_Lack
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:51 AM
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Nothing is impossible, but my definition of Chad and Stacy is they aren't frequent redditor-level weirdos. Being someone who posts and argues in spaces like this daily, or was able to somehow spend enough time online to learn all the pillosphere lingo, etc is automatically disqualifying. If your semantics are different from mine and just mean any attractive person, that's your definition. It's also possible there are people who present as extremely conventional and normal with successful thrivin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:51 AM
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People are often very ocd selective in which spaces they want clean and which spaces they really dgaf. The tropes of the immaculately made-up woman with the dirty bathroom with brushes stuck with hair and the man who drives home in his spotless car to a pigsty exist for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:49 AM
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Autism is also just heavily overrepresented online. It makes sense since the internet is especially accommodating for introverts alongside the anonymity. I've lost count how many times someone said they were actually autistic and it came as to very little surprise as in "it all makes sense now."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:37 AM
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It takes a significant level of neurodivergence and neuroticism to be active regularly online and in these types of spaces especially. Sure nobody is completely normal, adhd, dysmorphia, ptsd, anxiety and depression are common, but terminally online forum participants (i.e. us) are on another level. And PPD Isn't even as bad of a polarizing hive mind as other subs. "And even without really looking into their personal lives many people here really just sound like average people you could come acr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:33 AM
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I have no doubt you're goodlooking, but you just wouldn't be here if you weren't weird x) Chads don't refer to themselves as Chads (or Chadlites) in online flairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:27 AM
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Hot women wanting attention being obsessed with insta is wayyy more normal than hot women engaging in reddit debate, exchanging cat pictures many hours a day. Like I was saying about my point, idc how attractive you are, if you're doing the latter you aren't Stacy. Not saying one is necessarily worse than the other but I do have a personal aversion and just major ick from experience for redditors despite being a redditor myself. If I was a woman a man being a redditor would also be a red flag, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:18 AM
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You're familiar with the pilled concepts -just like me - to talk about them casually and regularly. I've encountered a small amount of people IRL who fit that description and you can guess how normal they are overall. They aren't bad people, just obviously out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:10 AM
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LOLL how about a compromise. Chad and Stacy aren't on reddit caring about karma. Perhaps I should specify the brand of crazy is the terminally online shut-in type who will argue with internet strangers about politics and gender wars. Not crazy as in party drunk crazy type. Honestly can't think of a bigger red flag or something to make me soften instantly than finding out a pretty woman posts regularly on Reddit. Also JFL Stacy isn't biking for 3 hours a day nonstop or even regularly exercising, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:58 AM
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"I don't know what the fuck you have but I want that." doubt it Point being Chad and Stacy are normal and well-adjusted with healthy social lives. Nobody here is. Nobody who spends a lot of time online is. You talking about the bipolar crazy overthinking fidgety hot chick? Yeah that's not Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:39 AM
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People talking about how there are actually some Chads or Stacies here on this sub lol. There's no such thing on PPD as these archetypes mean more than just looks, it references a type of neurotypical socially prolific demeanor with little uninhibition or neuroticism. If you're attractive and you frequent this sub or reddit you're just a goodlooking weirdo in need of meds and therapy stat. If you were remotely normal you wouldn't even come across this place much less choose to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:21 AM
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"they will voluntarily choose to be single than to be with someone they are disgusted with" I don't think evidence shows this when you just take a look at all the couples around you, and delve into why they're bored and unhappy. Divorce rates have remained stable, but are still depressing before we even take into account the couples who aren't happy but decided to stay with it despite everything still being toxic, mundane and miserable bc of cultural, social, and financial factors that can't be …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:04 AM
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Yea weird i know
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:57 PM
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It's the caffeine that provides the energy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:51 PM
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So 1-2 hours max and then I'm free for the entire day?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 06:02 PM
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Only if outdoors or when swimming (although it's hard to believe it holds up under any swimming), not if you're in an office or workspace and esp without many windows, UVA is still getting in but much less compared to outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 05:57 PM
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I reread your comment and agree I'm the same way with some parts of it. I go out of my way to minimize contact with people in public as well. It's not that I dislike people in general (well, maybe), but more just I'm in my own zone usually and don't want the inconvenience of social interaction. There's going out at night with the specific purpose of meeting or hooking up at a club and then there's going to a cafe, shop or restaurant to enjoy the solitude, get home/work done or enjoy coffee/food.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:15 PM
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I wonder if you're doing something to make people want to avoid you. You're obviously not ugly, and even people who are ugly don't have this amount of experiences of people just wanting to sit as far away from them as possible or crossing the street. Either that or it's just your fixation or you're reading too much into things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:05 PM
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Objectification is inherent any time attraction is involved because it often comes down to someone's physical features or how everything comes together at least. My feminist friend talked constantly about women being objectified and when I said "women also objectify men" she thinks for a second and goes "Yes men objectify women and women objectify men". Then oddly the conversation just stopped. I didn't press it but I just assumed she didn't know how to reconcile that with her agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 10:46 PM
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I guess it's true, on the surface or stereotypically speaking slavic men are hypermasc-acting alcoholic brutes as per indoctrination or culture but on paper they subscribe completely to the traditional prescriptions of what men should do. Maybe the drinking part or lack of self-care is more due to unfortunate circumstances and environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:57 PM
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Do slavic women have high standards? Sorry I'm just looking at the slavic men they're usually with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:50 PM
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I mean there's a loooott of women in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:47 PM
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Really depends on the individual woman and from assessment how likely she is to put in effort to return to normal health or if she values fitness. Aesthetically I'd prefer a thinner woman over a bigger one but not if the thinner one has an eating disorder and years of poorly-treated trauma and coping mechanisms. Given slightly heavier or slightly lighter the more neurotypical non-insane one wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:36 PM
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If you subscribe to the narrative men trying to date are in the desert while women are wading through a swamp of bad options, you'll have to recognize men also have a quality problem in addition to a quantity one and actually men's quality problems are exponentially worse due to the quantity problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:24 PM
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If you're a desperate man you'll realize toxic women are at least women. The problem is being toxic gets you more results than just having absolutely nothing but yet with a polite, caring and respectful attitude. Attraction requires some sort of spark or edge and toxic shit or drama is sufficient and a lot of people don't like to admit that when dispensing advice; it works to an extent on even non-toxic or otherwise nonproblematic women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:09 PM
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Then your standards are probably warped or dysmorphic. If the people need surgery you perceive them as if they are born with facial disfiguration. I can't remember the last time I saw a truly ugly incel photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:05 PM
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I've seen lots of photos of incels. Probably a few have been unsalvageable. The rest are normal or decent looking, with even some model-looking types because they have dysmorphia and are obsessed with looksmaxxing. You can always argue only the ones who know they aren't ugly (while saying they are ugly) post their photos but it's hard to believe that with the sheer percentages, I would've thought I'd see more hideous people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:19 PM
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He's just a regular looking guy. He's fat and unkempt, which is also very common among men. A bit of effort would go a long way. They say women only want above-average men, but the bar for above average isn't even high or difficult bc of how low everyone's baseline is In the end however it all comes down to social skills. Most incels who look like this, even if they put in the effort to look better, will still struggle because they suck with interaction and body language.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:11 PM
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Victimization became prominent after RP and the manosphere became more popular for grifters and people to just come out with content to feed into male bitterness for clicks. At its core, RP held men responsible for their own success, as in if they weren't succeeding they were doing something wrong and needed to look at themselves. In its current state as I described, there is def misogyny, but at its core there are those who would label RP inherently misogynistic as well due to the things RP say…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:03 PM
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Men who are naturally successful with women utilize general RP strategies and approach without thinking about it. They do self-improvement, have good social skills, do a good job of projecting value and status in their circles or cold-approach situations or say a nightlife environment with potentials of strangers meeting and hooking up. The difference is between these men who naturally or consciously have achieved what RP prescribes vs men who are in a bad enough position due mostly to social or…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:48 AM
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How has the experience improved since say 2010 or 2015.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:38 AM
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Haha good to have you back x)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 02:21 AM
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In the context of debate for this issue in most cases [strong] want and desire equal need. Obviously it's not meant to be taken literally like a person will die without a spouse or partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:44 AM
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Are you the alt of the guy who lives in the midwest and talks about how he does so much better with women when he wears sports caps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:41 AM
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She wants the dominant bad boy to change and be good because of, and just for her. Then she gets bored bc the result is a nice boring guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:38 AM
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Doesn't seem interesting at all since it falls right in line with trad norms. You can agree or disagree with these norms personally eg men with sub kinks but in general it's not surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:37 AM
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Femcels don't say that looks don't matter for men or that men don't need body positivity, they'll outright say looks matter for men and that men are shitty so they don't deserve body positivity bc of how much they are already oppressing women. Femcels are def not ok with saying women will fuck men for their personality even if they actually believe it because they only want to say harsh things. It was an alright set. I'm all for jokes targeting incels but her premises are off. Many incels lean l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:31 AM
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Kpop is just copying western boy bands and girl groups, but they put it on steroids. Everything bad or toxic about the industry is 100x worse in Korea.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:13 PM
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What happened to women saying watching a man play with kids or pets or doing housework to be super sexy? Is that a lie. I get that a manchild is obviously unsexy but ideally that isn't the marriage arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:30 AM
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You didn't mention any actual negative experiences with women. Assuming so why would you rather be hated. Sounds weird unless things have happened that you didn't bring up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:36 AM
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For the record I think it just might be bc women tend to be more social-leaning overall rather than any social privilege women enjoy even if it exists. Most people male or female can find people willing to be friends if they themselves want it unless they are very socially stunted. A lot of these loner men isolate themselves voluntarily, as valid as their contempt for humanity may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:31 AM
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I know zero of these women. First world problems maybe, full figures are not hard to attain and oft occur just naturally in the west through sedentary lifestyle and shit diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:17 AM
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maybe he meant more like loners or people without any/much social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:16 AM
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metal tins wtf what century do u live in
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 07:54 PM
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One smartass talking pizza eating NYer could take on 4 pasty tea-drinking losers of war with bad teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:52 PM
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yeah you're one of those non-white or non-male people can't be racist or sexist b/c they're not in power types
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:49 PM
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That's pretty ironic, since socialization and propaganda are exactly what make some men treat women poorly. Which is why feminists push for changes in socialization so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:33 PM
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I don't expect to convince you but you like most people are not going to be able to separate yourself from how you've been socialized and neither can the men. And even then you'd be an exception. If socialization made no difference we and esp those in power, of all types of views and persuasions, wouldn't pour so much effort into engineering it and pushing for differences in narratives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:17 PM
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I don't mind being single, I've been single for almost 2 years now. I feel like I could find someone fairly easily if I wanted but the question is would they be the right person, are they going to be loyal, will we enjoy each other's company 10 years from now; if it's not going to last forever what's the point. If I just want sex I'll go the casual route. But I'm not like u/Bitch_King-of_Angmar I can't look at every failed relationship as a beautiful tragedy because it made me wiser and gave me …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:05 PM
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The sexiness is fine but I don't know her so I don't know if using the word asshole would be too crude for her, but if you said "I can think of something else I'd like to deep clean" that might be less risky, but probably not as funny something something higher risk higher reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:57 PM
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no argument from me there, men are equally fucked maybe even moreso since i suspect there are more terminally online men, but it's so bad for both sexes comparing them is irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:24 PM
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Femcels exist, and the term incel was originally coined by an involuntarily celibate woman. Although she was probably far from all the traits we associate with incels today.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 04:53 PM
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You can't compare the degree of brain rottage now vs a few decades ago due to the sheer volume - in both senses - of noise and accessibility plus algorithms. Imagine being exposed to one toxic or weird idea in the 1990s and then now multiply it by 30 every day. As in not only are bad ideas exponentially reinforced, there's also an exponential increase in the variety of bad ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 04:43 PM
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It's all about how everything fits on the face rather than individual features. I can't think of a universally bad feature except for maybe big ears that stick out but maybe there are people who are into that too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 04:08 PM
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Big noses are underrated. Or at least given a bad rap. My nose is small and lacks projection, even in women we're taught to prefer small noses but whenever I come across a head-turner I realize I don't even notice the nose at all or they might have a distinctive one that draws me in. It is actually pretty disgusting how entire populations are preyed upon by the cosmetic procedure industries to view certain features common among their ethnicity as things to be erased or fixed eg nosejobs or other…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 03:16 PM
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He looks like a ftm mid-transition in the face if it wasn't for those muscles. This coming from my asian girl friends, no hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 03:04 PM
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Interesting. I guess I wouldn't say he's ugly but he does just look like an underdeveloped 14-year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 03:02 PM
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Out of all the goodlooking asian men out there you picked that one x)x)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:52 PM
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Do you have examples of the men they like? Every time a woman thinks she's subverting norms by showing me the pretty men she likes it's just a well-groomed maybe thinner guy with a solid jawline.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:50 PM
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When women say feminine men they just mean a guy with masculine features but good skin, younger, not as big as some men strive to be. A young Chad with good skin and hair. Actual feminine men (soft faces and structure, wide hips and soft body) get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:43 PM
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Having a good functional relationship with my parents is something I'm increasingly thankful for as I didn't know just how rare it is. Especially considering how weird I turned out for all their strictness and value of convention they are fairly accepting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:03 PM
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Ok so it's understandable why you yourself, I assume as an older person who has grown comfortable sticking to their preferred niches, don't see it. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Many young, insecure men from broken families and alienating dysfunctional upbringings can count their affirmations on one hand, if they are lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:53 PM
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You're a Chad physically. But bad social skills, perception and neurodivergence will nerf anyone. Not saying it's all your fault, it's just the way it is. At least you aren't less attractive or have other problems. I wouldn't say I was ever on your side or against you, just thought you were an interesting dude I got along with which is more than enough for just me wasting time on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:51 PM
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She does that to just mess around sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:46 PM
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Again, people don't live in a vacuum. Ofc the solution for men is to work on themselves independently but they are not given the ideal circumstances and environment currently to do so as young impressionable minds. Less criticism and hit pieces would be nice (bc really you don't see that?), alongside more messages of affirmation - which would affect both how women see men and how men see and develop themselves. Things like affirmation and validation sound ridiculous and unnecessary for older peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:44 PM
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Mom punched me in the stomach and said I was too skinny so I said no you're just fat and she goes 'HEYYY". Double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:38 PM
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Simply less negativity and criticism would go far. I don't understand why otherwise intelligent people just become suddenly in the dark like "I dunno man, what do you expect us to do?" and at a loss for any ideas when it comes to male issues; because they're already coming from a place of reluctance and doubt. Also as if men aren't victims of domestic violence and violence in general in comparable numbers to women. From whatever statistical minority of men are perpetrating this violence at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:17 PM
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"Is that how you see me?" That's how you purposely portray yourself and I remember your photos, so it shouldn't be a surprise. Good to have you back though you're an interesting character.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:15 PM
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sup weird Chad long time no see
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:04 PM
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Changing the messaging would be a great start but that has to come from the top as appreciated as your sentiments are. Again, people jump right to "Oh so what do you want us to do, date men we're not attracted to?" as a strawman and vast oversimplification of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:02 PM
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This sub isn't representative of real life (thankfully), but I don't really see many women actually exhibiting empathy. I don't count it as true empathy if the response is "Yeah, so what do you want us to do about it." Would you count it as empathy if men acknowledged women put up with creeps and abusive men and then go "Yea it sucks but not my problem"? But to bring it away from this PPD microcosm, it's clear from a society-wide standpoint, when you look at the media messages and noise that con…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:58 PM
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Honestly it's not even about who has it harder. It's just that society is saturated with empathy and awareness campaigns for the struggles of women and not for men. You could objectively prove women have it harder and the point would remain the same. It's not a surprise boys grow up and don't come into adulthood well prepared or functional due to a lifetime of neglect, gaslighting and being told they're terrible. The epidemic of broken families in America doesn't help as social stunting hurts me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:39 PM
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Or maybe the horny men doing one aren't the prudes going "where are all the traditional women at/down with whores". There is probably some overlap for sure since people are hypocrites, but people also tend to bring up hypocrisy where it doesn't exist as well. E.g. the femcels demanding a tall rich high status man aren't the same as the purple-haired leftist women with all types of weird orientations calling for dismantling of trad norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:23 PM
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To begin with, I think a lot of men are simply asking for empathy, awareness and acknowledgment that it's harder for men. Consequently, you'll see less sociopolitical noise about how men are problematic, privileged oppressors. You can then extrapolate how life for men might become better/easier as a result in various ways because the effects of broad messaging are huge. People jump right to "Oh so you want to force women to date men they aren't attracted to?" as a popular strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:14 PM
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What type of women are you assuming I think these men should settle for? A man with decent social skills and emotional intelligence, alongside a functional upbringing without unfortunate setbacks such as poverty or abusive environments should be able to find and date attractive women. The above qualities are not necessarily easy to acquire and depending on the specific circumstances there may be a lot that's out of their control, but it's not in the realm of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:03 AM
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Men are gaslit but not for the reasons as many think on this sub and esp this thread. Most men who struggle don't struggle bc of looks. I don't doubt there is room for improvement here and there but it's not the primary reason(s).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:19 AM
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It can go either way. Some normies really don't care about certain things ND people obsess over, and some are dumb and unaware as you infer and don't realize why they feel attraction when the ND person can suss it out. ND people also can focus on a lot of stupid irrelevant shit or hold warped perspectives, suffer from major dysmorphia, ocd, among other things. Perfect example is all the autistic male blackpillers who hyperfixate on super masculine traits to caricature-esque levels when they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:36 AM
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I guess. I'd just never get emotionally invested in a community where a huge % of the people clearly have mental issues, myself included. This would probably also just go for anywhere on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:23 AM
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What possible drama could there be, I'm having trouble even coming up with hypotheticals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:15 AM
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It's people on this sub? Tf to think people get actually angry and take things so seriously here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:10 AM
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I was going to add along those lines as well, it's not so much so-and-so is out of so-and-so's league - there is often little to zero established dynamic or relation to begin with. Often times she doesn't even know who the men are, much less be on the slightest friendly terms. I won't ever understand middle aged men who comment "Would you let me take you out to dinner sweetheart" on a random model's photo. Maybe they just enjoy doing it for the sport or fun of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 08:44 PM
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Similar to female groupies or fans who are devastated once their famous guy/idol gets a gf or hitched, I don't understand this mentality. Like any one of an instathot's - tho I'm sure your friend is wholesome - followers seriously thought there was a possibility of something eventually happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 08:38 PM
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If you're talking about most readily reacting positively and embracing the male form in the most visceral primal sense, it's going to be gay men bc gay men are men. They react the way to male bodies the same way straight men react to female bodies. As in more naturally horny and hard for, and less discriminate. It's not that women aren't into male bodies, their attraction just is a bit more complex and works differently. It's not always Point A to Point B, done.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:47 PM
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Because everyone here who posts about things like this will frame it in the context and their narrative of a gender war. If they aren't the type to do this they probably wouldn't be on this sub to begin with. It's still stupid they can't take a step back and consider all other factors and conclude it isn't necessarily about men vs women this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:32 PM
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For most men yeah. But for those who begin lifting and get obsessed, a lot of them definitely think women won't care until they ironically get too big and gross them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:26 PM
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Yea that's where we differ and it's understandable. Since I was male-gaze indoctrinated and you're female gaze, I find goodlooking men more striking and impressive looking than goodlooking women. In the end since I'm straight I don't feel sexual attraction toward men though and only toward women. A lot of straight women probably have an analogous opinion to mine in this regard. Edit: Ok, and ofc you're not even straight, talking about how you think women are betterlooking than men. Jeebus...it n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:21 PM
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Men are just hornier and more indiscriminate Also more likely to be desperate with less options Attractiveness has levels but men are more likely to find someone who barely passes the threshold to be good enough for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:17 PM
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Yea the whole 'women don't like muscles' thing is an absolute lie. Just don't overdo it. I lost count how often I see women eyefuck good arms, esp even forearms as men tend to forget that while overfocusing on upper arms. On a couple occasions that are "technically" sexual assault I've had women just reach under my shirt to touch my abs. It was a surprise and unwanted but in the end it was just like "wtf" and I forgot about it 3 min later.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:13 PM
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Men overrate men and women overrate women. I didn't think muscularity was that goodlooking until I became more exposed and indoctrinated with male gaze shit like women have been with female gaze stuff since much younger. Men seem to rate while looking at raw features and women rate more like with grooming, style, accessories. A lot of my female friends rated the same guy with the same face like 3-4 points apart because in one he dressed a lot better and had better hair. There was this mid guy a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:08 PM
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I"ll believe you've never seen virgin-shaming or snarky comments about how a man lacks or has zero experience with women as long as it's still your first hour on the internet or honestly planet earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:54 AM
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How am I missing the point? I know what your point is, I just think it's wrong. Most men don't act oddly to averagely unattractive women. Most people are just trying to live their lives, they are usually baseline polite, they don't give a shit what you look like men or women. Like the guy at the grocery store who rings up your stuff. Smile, nod, be courteous, that's it. Who has the time to care? "I don't think you've spoken to an unattractive woman before" You've said and inferred this to me mul…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 12:10 AM
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That's just completely opposite to where I'm from and what I've observed. Yeah I'm sure if you're a complete bridge troll it's going to be harder to get people to want your company, but men and women at all levels of attractiveness can be and are friends as far as I can see.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:33 PM
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Are we talking about literal kids? Yeah kids are mean in school, that is not a secret. The girls were not better, just less physical but more back-stabbing, exclusion, ostracization, rumors and shit. We're talking about adults. Again I don't know where you live where it's difficult to think adult men don't treat women like shit unless they're attractive - which isn't the same as giving attractive women extra positive attention - no one is denying that. And ultimately it's all a far cry from the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:06 PM
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I'm not offended that you speak out about the struggles of being unattractive. I have a problem with you saying all young men go out of their way to treat unattractive women poorly or cruelly. In any case, why not say it happens with some guys but there are also a lot of guys who aren't like that? I don't think I'm a great guy, just a dude with a sense of common decency. It's not great, it's the bare minimum. Re: being outspoken, if people dislike what you are saying they will find all sorts of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 08:22 AM
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I don't think anyone who is rude or cruel to someone just bc they aren't attracted to them is worth talking to, so basically you should just stop interacting with me if you think I'm that way. If anything I should be more offended at your assumptions, as most of my friends are women, not all of them are attractive, and I care about all of them. When it comes to people I enjoy spending time with, why would I give a fuck about their looks. I don't want to fuck any of my close guy friends and that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 08:03 AM
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"I don't think you've spoken to an unattractive woman before" Huh?.....Are you serious? Again, really maybe consider you just live in an environment with a lot of toxicity or terrible people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 07:50 AM
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Idk, maybe it's the men you're around. Certainly people will treat those they find attractive maybe with extra positive attention but men if they are remotely decent people won't be rude to anyone they don't find attractive. It's a baseline level of respect or politeness that non-POS people male or female carry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 07:14 AM
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Are gay men known to be rude, or at least unfriendly, toward beautiful women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 05:47 AM
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"Dennys at 3am" 1 server for 12 tables of trashed or blazed af people w/ munchies The mexican cook in the back singing in spanish getting louder with every second bc he's about to quit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:15 PM
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Just pretend you're in a hardcore training montage in a movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:13 PM
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This is absolute crazy talk. You're saying the average guy, who is skinny-fat, soft-looking, chubby, or/if not straight up fat, who puts zero effort into grooming, skincare, will notice little to zero difference if he lifts, becomes fit, gets a cool hairstyle, clears up his skin and dresses better? Inb4 what about the face the face can also benefit tremendously from leaning out and clear skin, especially for men where lower bf and angularity suit even more than it does women. There are things th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:23 AM
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I think all types of cheese is dandy if it's like on casserole, pizza, lasagna, refried beans, burritos or enchiladas etc but I won't just have a piece or munch on cheese by itself whereas I know a lot of people who love to indulge that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:26 PM
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I grew up on an american diet though mostly. I've lost count how many times I've heard women say "I'm giving up dairy except for cheese." There's something about it you guys can't quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 06:12 AM
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In poorer countries with different ways of life you often have multiple multigenerational families all living under one roof, so if you're going to bring up moving out you're also going to have to bring up american cultural expectations - like kicking out your kids at 18 or at least making it a norm for them to move out at 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:45 AM
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I guess I just don't like most cheese much then, it's a bit too sharp and american seems just right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:29 AM
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American cheese is superior. And sometimes cheap frozen Totino's party pizza hits the spot, more often than one would think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:19 AM
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When it comes to reproductive rights, there is not a huge gap between how men and women vote in America because most people vote on these things based on religious, political or value/moral framework-related blocs; it doesn't depend on whether they respect or resent the opposite sex. I just have to remind people how much women on reddit were furious at men for voting for Trump when almost an equal amount of women did also. I personally know many female Trump voters and as far as I know they love…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:11 AM
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Yea that looks like the right one, thanks~
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:12 PM
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Looking to buy more Steam games. What was the name of that one title someone was mentioning on here where you can play as a rapscallion in a small town or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:55 PM
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ditto, i'm a rice cracker
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:51 PM
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I do not think women's looks standards are especially high. As in if he passes a certain not-high threshold she can feel genuine attraction after getting to know his other qualities which take more time to see. If you're looking for genuine attraction entirely based around looks, sure the bar is loftier, but honestly an LTR based just on physical appearance seems fragile at best. If she's that shallow she'll be constantly on the lookout for other attractive men when she inevitably gets bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:37 PM
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"there was only one home game I ever covered where the home team won" maybe you're bad luck
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:14 AM
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Isn't one of the main draws of passport bro'ing the traditional "non-woke" values of the women in other countries? Honestly I see the appeal, don't mind being a provider etc but I love American women too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:06 AM
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Do you not prefer skinny twinks? Men rejecting women over 20 BMI is so laughable it's not worth addressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 05:03 PM
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I've lost count how many women online have said they disagree with trad norms and say women don't like muscles or masculine men, only later to say they're lesbian or bi heavily leaning toward women. Can't make this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 04:17 AM
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Yes, but i think the people who use reddit regularly are on another level. People with healthy social lives and neurotypical tendencies don't spend a lot of time conversing with strangers on the internet, and in the context of reddit, it's literally visiting the same hive mind daily to have your views both validated and polarized. In actuality this sub isn't nearly as bad in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:10 AM
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I suppose he didn't specify it well or at all, but the guy you were responding to, I'm guessing he was talking about people with political opinions they feel the need to express out loud often and in a self righteous, arrogant or annoying manner. Or like the person who constantly lectures others from their primary social media account.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:05 AM
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How about you can be informed and have your own opinions, all fine and dandy, but don't make it your entire identity either on social media or IRL Just because someone avoids politics most of the time doesn't mean they are ignorant or privileged. They recognize the sensitivity of all the involved components in any one political debate and would prefer to leave them for a time and place - perhaps when they have the emotional battery.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:56 AM
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I would say socially incompetent and introverted are better terms, as nerd implies intelligence and there are definitely wide swaths of reddit that lack it or any critical thinking skills - or even following basic trains of thought while displaying the utmost arrogance and confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:47 AM
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It's more like places affording anonymity like reddit attract the terminally online weirdos. Nobody I know who is normal takes reddit as a whole seriously. Or uses it often. Apparently I'm the giant weirdo in my circles and it's not hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:27 AM
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What do you get by finding out they are lying or inconsistent. They'll just stop responding, block, or make up more excuses and dead-on-arrival rebuttals. Being revealed to be a liar and disingenuous fraud has never stopped anyone on reddit. If you remember they said something different before you can bring it up but why waste your time digging through their history.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 11:15 PM
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Do probiotics help with upset stomach issues, my friend said they actually made her IBS and bloating worse
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:55 AM
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Just clicking on the first link how is it the opposite you're literally saying avg men need to become top tier to get better women bc women like the top men [only]. Which is not the case in India where you are, as you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:59 AM
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Okay so if your country is so different from America such that avg men get top tier women with no problem, why does your initial comment say men should have higher standards as if it's something that can be worked with here bc it works in your country lol. Edit: Bro you make entire posts about avg men struggling for crumbs and all this time you're just debating as an American guy or elsewhere when in your own country there is zero problem in this regard? a;sldfkjaslg;ksaj
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:09 AM
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LOL women treat us like children a lot of the time despite the narrative being how men disrespect and underestimate women. Like putting on a game or a video game to keep us occupied or having a friend bring the bf so "we have a buddy to hang out with" while they do their thing. Admittedly the game/video game thing sometimes works x)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:05 AM
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But then why are avg men getting hotties with no problem when the top men have low standards, why aren't the hotties just easily bagging top men for commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:56 AM
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Yeah it seems common but you just don't know if it's just "well it's common, sucks but that's the way it is" or something more, but thx.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:54 AM
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Which means that would make dating easier right? Since you know so many avg dudes with hotties dating should be a cakewalk for men here with their low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:35 AM
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So do you think the men who say they are struggling here in America struggle because their standards are too low?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:21 AM
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LOLL or when the US won the math olympiad against China but the US team was all Chinese kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:16 AM
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A tiny bit worried about my sister, she'll just drop things like "I won't be able to eat tomorrow" after eating a bigger meal or when we go out for wings. She's always been rail thin anyway but I guess this is unfortunately something most young women struggle with to some degree even if it's not full blown clinical. As far as I know she's never actually starved herself but I don't know her secret habits and maybe I'm just overthinking shit. Most women aren't anorexic or bulemic but it's likely m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:12 AM
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Damn, if I don't understand men's emotions and I'm already a man I guess I never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:53 PM
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Well tbf the way men handle emotions "better" is by holding it all in until everything snaps. I guess you could argue one is worse than the other somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:48 PM
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A lotta men do yearn for the "Good ol days" even if they weren't alive to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:42 PM
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So you think it's problematic to think a borderline chubby woman is too big for preferences but you prefer a skinny twink who let's be honest is just a goodlooking guy on the thinner side thus "See, he's not Chad".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:31 PM
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Damn, Indians coming in to beat us out in everything. They already took the spelling bee from us. We need some Asian invasion into the cricket leagues to even shit out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:52 PM
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I hope you like all your new asian friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:42 PM
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Except that's not what many men search for in porn, not to mention there is little suppression of the idea of men desiring certain features and things in women. There's no broad-scale denial that men like tits or "Stacy doesn't exist." Again, when you have nothing else to say it's always "Ok, but what about this, men suck too right"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:37 PM
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...All this tells me is women aren't sexually attracted to the dumpy men they marry as you concede women prefer if not need conventionally attractive looking men if they're going to masturbate or be turned on. It's confusing how you thought this was a rebuttal
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:32 PM
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I'm not seeing many soft or overweight potato faces in the ladyboners sub or those far from convention. Most are white, muscular or in shape, chiseled, oft with beards. I'll wait for you to say the sub isn't representative of most female preferences even though reddit is known for actually having a greater variety of deviant tastes and people challenging norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:29 PM
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They were always ok with loss of life on the other side if it meant their side winning because there is so much emotional but also real-life investment as well and humans are shit. To be completely honest I'm guilty of just kind of entertaining political debate and politics like some type of spectator sport. For a lot of other people, public policy has a much more profound effect on their livelihood almost to the point of life or death in some cases. It affects everyone but a lot of us are much …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:24 PM
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"love deserves to be dramatized because it's the last place drama is allowed to happen." I trust you've been in and around politics and political debate circles and forums
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:49 PM
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at least you walk the talk and are living by your emo ideals
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:42 PM
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Dating/relationships will always cost money and resources, arguably more for men than for women. That will always be a give-take in the calculus for men, who's to say you shouldn't save money until 40 instead of 30, but where you find balance is just going to be up to the individual. I do find the idea of people being quick to move out at 18 to be silly unless circumstances require it or the family situation is toxic. To allocate a huge amount of income toward living costs at an age where you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:21 PM
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Maybe just cultural too. I had a partial asian upbringing and the parents can be stoic and distant. They do everything on paper, try to make sure the kids do everything right like study and work hard and be an upstanding member of society, but the closeness and comfort aspect of the relationship can be compromised as a result despite the benefits. It's also just partially genetic too, my sister and brother seem to be alot more neurotypical and adapted more early and readily to socialization patt…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 07:58 PM
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Yes, but also nobody teaches young men/boys how to have good social skills, if you don't naturally have it you need to have the type of intelligence to learn/improve it assuming in your naivete as a teenager you even realize their importance. If you are highly neurodivergent or autistic your results may be severely limited. When you take into account everything looksmaxxing is actually pretty simple and easy in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 07:49 PM
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So you're just listing the other contributions that women make. Doesn't change the argument at all. Again we're talking about the primary reasons/factors/motivations for marriage. If money is established as one on the men's side - that women are entitled to - you need to account for what is established on the women's side. So cool, if women are the ones doing the childrearing, that means men should also receive compensation if she becomes lax in those duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:29 PM
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The contract of beauty and sex for money and security is a well known general aspect of most marriages. Again you don't have to agree or subscribe to it, but if you're going to use the "well she's marrying him for money in large part" you're going to have to also take the "well he's marrying her for her looks and sex" part with it; you can't just use one and discard the other. Even if it's just a specific case, then I would ask do you think it's appropriate for this man in particular to receive …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:16 PM
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Very debatable, but even if you're right, the narrative and context here is that a man's money is a big reason for why women get married, and thus as follows a woman's looks and access to sex is a big reason for men getting married. Very oversimplified and honestly sad to me, but if this is what we're going off of, this is the logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:02 PM
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Should men be granted some sort of compensation then if their wives let themselves go and lose their looks, or stop wanting sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 05:39 PM
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As far as I understand blackpill is basically all about looks. Hence all the sayings like "There's no gym for your face" and the term gymcel. Goodlooking men will never be "at the bottom" but if that's all they've got there are other more highly prioritized traits for men as evidenced by who's on top. Thus the blackpill is disproven, as blackpill means looks above all. Everyone on blackpilled forums is talking about looksmaxxing and not sharing tips how to thugmaxx or improve one's status.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:07 PM
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The blackpill is heavily debunked in lower classes, as the toughest most dominant and uninhibited men will always win. Yeah he can't be ugly af (maybe) but he doesn't need to look especially good. It's the guy in the area running shit with the highest status and authority, not the quiet pretty boy with great skin and hair, as much as women "appreciate" style and grooming.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 09:09 PM
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Yes, and when people ask how to be healthy we as a society have zero problem telling people not to smoke or drink in moderation, countless nationwide and local awareness campaigns, public policy and laws implemented, social programs pushed, but somehow with this it's "I just assume they already knew the big points. So 'just be yourself' it is." Bottom line is there are all types of men struggling, and often times when a guy asks his friends, peers or leaders for help they have a pretty good idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 08:49 PM
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If it's so obvious to them, they'd be working on it. But it's clear they're not, and clear that they are confused what they're doing wrong. It's just very convenient again how everyone's advice seems to be the emptiest generic platitudes, after saying they assume these men already know what to do about all the other harder, more important parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:48 AM
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I don't understand this very common answer. Especially when it's obvious the guy needs to work on his physical attractiveness but is clearly clueless. Saying "Well I assumed he knew all that so I was just focusing on personality traits and be yourself" is just an excuse for why people decide just to say what would make them look like a good non-shallow person. Because when you honestly ask yourself why a lot of these men are struggling, the obvious reason(s) are not that "they aren't just being …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:05 AM
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So if the #1 picks of these women consist of this top percentage of chads after being "forced to be picky" isn't that the same thing as saying they are all attracted [the most] to this percentage? Going by your argument the only room for maneuvering is just saying some women might care more or less about looks than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:04 AM
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I know you're referring to your specific situation with your self-esteem, but literally most of the benefits of exercise occur afterwards physically, mentally and emotionally and it's not always apparent if you're just starting. Keep doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:13 PM
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Your understanding of mental illness and many other things, just like many conservatives, is vastly oversimplified and doesn't take into account all the necessary factors for such a discussion. The vast majority of us are not either lunatics needing isolation in asylums or perfectly fine. A huge percentage of the population has some degree of psychopathology but are suffering silently or coping the best they can. They are 1 or 2 biggish events from everything falling apart and snapping, and afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:19 PM
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dang, that's very bad news to all my gay friends =(
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:12 PM
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It is kind of a stupid looking hairstyle, but if the guy is goodlooking honestly it probably doesn't matter much. It's not like a bowl cut or anything at least lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:55 PM
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I am not a fan of the way liberals handle mental illness but at least they are addressing it. Again, from what I can see with the trend of people who have committed these types of crimes, they come from communities that are heavily governed by conservative entities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:48 PM
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Yes, yesterday it was "We need to stop these 30-something creeps from fooling 20-something women as they are easily fooled" and then a few comments down, "30-something men aren't interesting or fooling anyone, 20-something women are capable and onto their shit, they're not airheads"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:41 PM
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I'm not necessarily even attacking conservative beliefs or values, just more the execution and the results speak for themselves - if anything the way a lot of policies are supported and implemented it would seem like they are doing everything to say those values don't matter. I agree with a lot of conservative things on paper, whenever they list them off I nod my head repeatedly. But there's a contrast between what they say and what comes out of what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:38 PM
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Are liberals the ones who constantly vote to defund programs that help the mentally ill or the homeless (which is hugely comorbid with mental illness)? Who are the ones carrying the conversations about mental illness and who are the ones who only bring it up when defending gun ownership each time something terrible happens? If you've gotten to the point where you are somehow saying leftist propaganda is the culprit causing people to commit gun violence (in the face of statistics), I can tell the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:28 PM
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I agree people move right as they get older - on average. It's not the conservative values and ideology(s) on paper I have a problem with, it's how things play out in these communities. Officially speaking, nothing in conservative doctrines allow for callous use of firearms to kill people or ignoring people's suffering by gaslighting their mental issues - on paper. If anything it's being tough on crime and Christian values, things a shooter are obviously the exact opposite of. Who's going to dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:16 PM
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Re: ICE shooter I have many problems with liberals and the left, but it honestly doesn't matter so much whatever type of politics the guys were personally perusing or into much moreso that they are originally from conservative, sometimes isolated or rural upbringings. Their environments repress any conversation about mental health, allow easy access to firearms, and have a general overall callous perspective toward life (e.g. I got mine so fuck you) as a poster put it here a while ago. Not that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:10 PM
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Right, so wouldn't the men on this sub also have an inflated idea of average due to being regular consumers of modern media? Therefore if anything they are likely to underestimate the SMV of the guys they see IRL with women, not think they are chads when they are merely average.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:03 PM
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Wait, so people today have very inflated views on average in that their idea of average/norm is better-looking bc of tiktok, filters, reality tv etc, but at the same time the men complaining here think average is uglier than it actually is bc all the guys women are going for aren't actually above average? Which one is it, or do you think the men here are mostly middle aged and don't ever watch media or...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:54 PM
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Morality being subjective doesn't stop specific moral frameworks from dominating and being pushed in societies. Saying morality is subjective doesn't address or fix anything. In the context of this discussion they are talking about the promoted framework as men or their standards being inherently problematic and "bad" and women's standards being inherently good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:57 AM
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People also tend to move right as they get older or more established. Easy to be a revolutionary as an idealistic hormonal college kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:45 AM
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It's actually the opposite. You notice less and less outwardly identifying red pill figures because redpill shit has already made its way into conventional lingo and thought. You don't see the random regular dudes at work as redpillers, but they increasingly incorporate words like game, simp, (insert word)-maxxing, chad, mewing neet, ldar et al into their vocab. Maybe not exactly redpilled-specific per se but definitely from the male-oriented pillospheres. I find this unfortunate, although there…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:36 AM
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Sure, so I'm failing to see where we differ, you're confirming exactly what I said in greater detail. Nothing about Trump was ideal to you, maybe some things very far from it, but a lot of you came to love and fervently argue for him later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:05 AM
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"Exact opposite" how? I said you and your similars dislike Trump but voted for him because at the very least he wasn't the left and that's all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:01 AM
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That was the logic of a lot of right-leaning people. Throughout 2016 they paid Trump no mind or laughed at him until they found out he was the forerunner and then they said "I guess I have no choice." The thing is they came to find all sorts of ways to support and argue in favor of all his decisions, policies and views, warming to his persona. This isn't descriptive of people who voted for him in extreme reluctance, but you simply need a Psych 101 textbook to easily explain it. People are all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:49 AM
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Yes, that is understandable and natural. Hence why this whole 20-something women can be fooled by 40 year old men thing is weird. Unless you just account for naivete everywhere. 30 year olds can fool and manipulate other 30 year olds, and elderly people are easily taken advantage of and scammed. Elderly or older people can also be charmed and scammed dating-wise by younger people due to already being insecure about their worth or attractiveness. Although a big problem I was unaware of is people …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:43 AM
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That's literally every Republican though. Every GOP politician or common supporter who had no idea he would win didn't take him seriously, finding it convenient or beneficial to just lob criticism and glib or pithy insults before the latter half of 2016.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:36 AM
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Dave Chappelle was saying he was a breath of fresh air and unlike anything people had seen, a rich white man of the elite yelling out to the commonfolk from inside of the house that everything they suspected was true. "I know the system is rigged bc I benefit from it." Then saying to Obama and Hillary "If you want me to pay my taxes then change the tax code, but I know you won't because you, your friends, and your donors also benefit from it." Everything about him was unorthodox and different li…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:26 AM
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Also interesting as the Schrodinger convenient narrative effect constantly comes into play, younger women are either victims needing protection from being fooled by old creeps or there's no way they want to be associated with much less date older men bc these women are smart, savvy in their prime and know their worth and eww gross old men. Similar to the Schrodinger's feminism of women either being able to do everything a man can but better but also somehow needing to be coddled and protected an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:19 AM
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It's business as usual. People up in arms because his job and show was put in jeopardy because "nothing like this should happen because of just something they said" - even though freedom of speech doesn't work that way - but have conveniently little to say if not mockery and womp womp for someone who lost their life for what they said. The giant caveat here being the government was involved, but I'm not going to assume they would be okay with it if the govt wasn't involved. Hashtag humanity. "I …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:35 PM
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If it takes effort to convince people that's not what he's implying, that means the majority of the population would assume he's implying it at face value. Saying it directly, even. Also, to reiterate while I agree with Kimmel specifically on this, aren't the left-wingers also doing all they can to "characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:27 PM
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Kimmel on his first night back put on a big show of apologizing and it's pretty funny just how he just blatantly, shamelessly lied when he said he wasn't trying to pin it on either side when literally it's what he was put on hold for, the quote could not be clearer. It's the easiest thing to prove and factcheck, just more convinced now than ever the right isn't the only side who seems confident their audience is just complete morons. And for the record, I agreed with his angle, just ridiculous h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:10 PM
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There's this idea that good genes come in packages which I've never really agreed with. Google the smartest people in the world or top athletes, and while the athletes will obviously have 0.1% tier physicality in some way, you don't see much in the way of height trends in the smartest people or facial stunners in pro sports aside from Tom Brady or Ronaldo or whoever. World class academics, philosophers and athletes are a small sample size, but you'd think there'd still be a clear trend where you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 07:05 PM
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I mean I guess taller people tend to have adequate nutrition and are thus going to be more likely to grow up in environments that sufficiently cultivate mental development and prowess, as suggested in the explanations section. That's different from saying tall people are smarter on average to me nuancewise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:57 PM
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Taller people being smarter on average is going to be a hard sell. Even goodlooking people. I'd offer my own observations but they're just going to be purely anecdotal anyway. It's less likely that tall people were elected president bc they were smart enough (either by perception or through ability to make it that far) and more like people are more likely to admire, trust and choose tall people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:53 PM
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IME UMC people do tend to be taller, but I'm not sure about raw facial attractiveness. I can tell richer people have more time to put into skincare, grooming and styling ofc as well as procedures but I've seen way too many goofy looking UC people to say lol. Also I've been to some more rural "corn country" areas and the people there are gigantic and tall AF. I'm 5'11" and often felt like a midget there. The conclusion drawn from that link seems to be that being goodlooking can afford the person …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:46 PM
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Poor people commit more crimes, poor people don't tend to have the time, resources or knowledge to work on or maintain their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:42 PM
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I've noticed for along time now things like fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, IBS, all these other chronic illness disorders you see popping up on reddit over the years is often reported from UMC people with a lot of time on their hands and without the struggles of people less fortunate than them. More time for rumination destroys mental health and life happiness and satisfaction, leading to spiraling and obsession/fixation on all sorts of shit, which in turn leads to all types of neurolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:35 PM
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nah i agree and appreciate it 'reddit is thankfully not real life' is def something i can repeat to myself for solace
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:27 PM
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If focusing just on the potential exploitation yes, but I think a lot of them went on to refer to smut as just a superior form of media due to it not being purely visual.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:25 PM
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damnn why didn't i think of that CUREDD
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:24 PM
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u/New-Western-4819 I remember you said from your research or journalism exp pdfiles tend to be of the lower class for whatever reasons, maybe bc they don't have the resources to hide or launder their fucked up shit, but there might be a correlation between looks and class, I dunno.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:22 PM
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i have a lot of time to think
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:20 PM
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Boggles the mind how many people are like "Every single man/woman I've encountered or been with has been lazy/a moocher/entitled/POS" and their conclusion is all men/women are bad and not that they are making terrible choices. Zero accountability. Or just that a lot of these people are from godawful areas because the way they describe the opposite sex is that of a promiscuous abusive deadbeat bridge troll. I might give men a slight bit of lenience on this since when men say it it's more bc they …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:09 PM
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def not written by a man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:01 PM
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Sure, makes sense. But going back to it there are tons of guys in their late 20s thirsted by all women of all ages. It's not old enough for aging to work against someone lookswise unless you're in a bad area where everyone deteriorates after 23.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:59 PM
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An older person at 30 is different from an older person at 40 or 50. I remember as a teenager being obsessed with some dated photos of Ashley Judd, when I looked up the date of those photos she was like already in her mid thirties. Maybe if I had known that psychologically I wouldn't have thought the same, but who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:53 PM
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And yet plenty of teenagers found people up to 30 years of age and beyond hot. Too big of a gap and problematic if anything actually happened, sure absolutely, but attraction isn't a barrier if you're talking a 20 year old vs a 30 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:47 PM
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Yeah I've had a few women IRL talk to me about how smut is superior morally and otherwise to porn while going off talking negatively about the latter bc muh character development as if it's not all just designed to get you off anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:45 PM
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In this context "older" means late twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:40 PM
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Schrodinger effect. Convenient to come up with explanations why young men are better when shitting on old dudes and vice versa. Depending on what the debate calls for, older guys are 1] fat, wrinkled, ugly, creepy, or 2] experienced, mature, accomplished, not like these brain-rotted gen z Tate dickriders.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:29 PM
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He's def the better looking Hemsworth over pug-faced Chris. A few of my female friends said he looks more "high class" or refined whatever tf that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:21 PM
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I can see why women don't find the constant validation and compliments to be worth much. It means little from men bc men are horny, yet it means even less from other women bc they'll comment "gorgeous" and "obsessed with u" on literally any of their friends' insta photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:12 PM
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Weed is too strong now, I liked it when it just made me giggle a lot instead of having a quiet prolonged existential meltdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:37 AM
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It feels like Mario Kart 8.5 instead of a true sequel. I don't mind the price, it's a sufficient game and Nintendo can't lose with the franchise's tried and true formula, but I get why people were complaining. In addition to just the very underwhelming Switch 2 launch and few anticipated titles continuing to this day. Also while we don't know what type of DLC Nintendo will release for MK World in the future as of now it's obvious even Mario Kart 8's baseline track selection was better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:34 AM
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Isn't this going to fuck over the US, whose top tech and science-based industries run on the talent and expertise of people from other countries holding these visas? We're already losing our competitive edge, and now this, although maybe we can find some native-born Americans with the same ambition and intelligence but it's going to be hard if they grew up in the current modern american culture that looks down upon academic pursuits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:01 AM
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Casseroles are great. You know how they have taco trucks when I grow up I'm going to open up my own casserole truck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 06:58 AM
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My rule is, in the context of talking to that person directly and not discussing celebs, if you can say something nice, do it. If you can't, just say nothing. Although I will say it feels kind of wrong to comment [negatively] on the looks of random ass people whose photos are posted here for PPD discussion, which ofc I have been guilty of.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 06:43 AM
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Tragic, and at the same time you'll find countless more examples of this with women doing it to women. Just that things like this blow up and are popular to highlight because blaming men will always be popular and women don't want to admit they are more brutal with each other than men will ever be. From a lot of observation, it's true behind women's backs men can be dogs and be like "i'd hit for sure" or make fat jokes, but it's a different level when women talk about other women, the criticism …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 06:43 AM
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I mean I agree these people complaining are complete shitstains who have the least to offer society to begin with, but it's also not inconsistent they can both not want their good paying jobs taken and also less strain on welfare and less crime. So whichever kind of immigrant it is, smart and ambitious or criminal lowlife, it's a negative for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:00 AM
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Whatever the trope is about the fat neckbeard with doritos crumbs on his dried cum-stained anime shirt pointing at the tv screen judging models like 'elbows too pointy', I can guarantee women are way more judgmental with other women regardless of differences in attractiveness. Literally 2s talking about 9s like her eyes are too far apart, her nose is weird-shaped, face is too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:55 AM
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Are we just talking about physical appearance? Bc most men don't even seem like they are trying, or are going about things the wrong way. The competition is not high. And I live in a very looks-conscious area. I honestly don't see many men shitting or ridiculing on other men for doing skin care or weight loss however...maybe a couple decades ago? Also the guys who make fun of other guys for being gay and then pushing hypermasc ideals actually tend to strive for these ideals themselves - or they …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:17 PM
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I took hypergamy more to mean a woman will always be on the lookout for something better which discourages men from committing because you don't know when she'll change her mind and lose interest because someone else came along. Going by your definition, it seems a lot less problematic. I don't see anything readily wrong with choosing to say single if you can't find your equal or better and refusing to date worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:55 AM
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Instead of saying leagues exist it might just be more palatable and accurate to say everyone likes attractive people and wants the most attractive partner they can get. Even that isn't always the case, there are those with reasons not to want their SO to be too attractive for reasons of insecurity, pragmatism or maintenance and lifestyle issues and incompatibilities. To use an example, many women want a man who will complement them well (like an accessory almost), who will look solid with them i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:39 AM
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Yes, a 4/10 with a 9 is unlikely unless he's rich af but that goes without saying. I don't necessarily think this proves the existence of leagues since people date 2 points above or below all the time. Also, if something like status, of which personality and social skills contribute heavily to, can override leagues then how important are leagues anyway. Like I was saying let's say leagues exist. But exceptions are made if it's the right personality, the right status, the right niche, the right c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:26 AM
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How do you explain people dating up, as is the case every time anyone dates down. If you're just talking about men, how do you explain men being able to attract women more attractive than themselves? The reality is a lot of people care more than just about looks, and/or also have their own subjective views on what looks good eg an 8/10 woman can feel attracted to a 6/10 man bc he's her type. There is a looks threshold to clear for most people but for many it certainly does not seem that high if …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:16 AM
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You would love it in the northwestern part of the US or maybe even the midwest must be nice to think these types of guys are chads, they're literally everywhere like an infestation. Went up to Portland and Seattle and lost track of how many I saw just walking down a couple streets in the gentrified hipster areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 08:10 PM
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Same energy what now? I'm not a ck shill, I just hate hypocrisy. And I'm all for people getting fired and called out for slurs or discriminatory dickhead behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:24 PM
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Because he's famous, or infamous. That's how the media works. Is that surprising? I personally don't think his life was any more valuable than anyone else who passed, for whatever reason or cause. I'm not saying what should or shouldn't happen. Just that there are consequences to what you say. You can get fired if your company or employer doesn't want your views to be associated with theirs for whatever reason. You can get ostracized or shunned at work or in your social circles, or lose job oppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:17 PM
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After looking through a lot of things he said, I can see why he was disliked. There were also many things he is reported to have said that are circulating which are wildly taken out of context, purposefully deceptive and free of nuance. When I said immunity I mean some people are all up in arms about possibly losing their job or being criticized for what they said about Kirk but say he had it coming when he got assassinated due to what he said. They want and expect zero consequences for their wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:00 PM
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The only time they ever bring up the importance of mental health while voting to defund all programs to help the mentally ill. I hate the left as well. Why is everyone so stupid and disingenuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 05:05 PM
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How is this different from the left canceling people, sometimes digging back 10-15 years on old twitter/x accounts for ammunition Also if they think ck had it coming bc of his words, interesting they expect immunity for theirs. Like 'womp womp he got shot bc of what he said but it'd be outrageous if I lost my job for what I said'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 05:01 PM
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Absolutely. Women can be super touchy feely in the most awkward of situations, men just don't complain or care about it but it's definitely weird and unasked for. I usually just laugh a little and kind of angle my body away.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 01:30 AM
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For some/many men who act a certain way to get women, it means they are convincing women their personality is a certain way. Whether it's actually who they are is not that relevant to my point - the point is women view personality as important even when they don't know they are being deceived. Just like a man who wears lifts to be over six feet tall, he's actually not tall, but women think height is important and perceive him to be tall so they gravitate more toward him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:35 PM
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There are already a ton of secretly [more] conservative men who do all the performative progressive left-leaning shit to be more socially acceptable. In many cases it's not even a calculated persona with the intention to deceive, it's just dudes who are the way they are realizing they can't say certain things in public without inviting broad criticism or a phone call from HR.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:25 PM
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It's good in that it's attractive That's what people mean when they say personality matters And objectively we can definitely say these guys have "more" personality than someone who is nice and kind but doesn't know how to express anything in any way effectively and has nothing else to offer
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:18 PM
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yea i wasn't disagreeing, but the/my point is more just men don't know what personality entails they go out thinking their personality is fine when it's sorely lacking and when they crash and burn they go on forums online to say personality is bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:00 PM
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Not hard if you stop shaving and become anorexic or the reverse. I consistently forget he's Welsh and it throws me for a loop when I watch him in interviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 09:59 PM
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Yeah I've heard that explanation about other hot dudes in the business. Too wooden or pretty, not rugged enough to be a leading man, but also can't play ugly or quirky characters or sidekicks. Thus his offerings have been limited to just whenever they need a cookie-cutter hot guy somewhere in their movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 09:51 PM
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Men, or at least the men here, have an incomplete and inaccurate impression of what a good personality is, at least in terms of what attracts women. They think a good personality is just someone acting nice or doing nice things and being non-problematic when it's more emotional awareness and intelligence, charisma, wit and humor, both reading and projecting effective body language and being able to navigate conversations about all sorts of topics with ease. The rebuttal is usually "that's social…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 09:48 PM
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Maybe lol. I dunno, he's been in some movies and shows, he's probably not complete ass as you don't see them handing out roles to victoria's secret models.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 09:45 PM
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I feel there are a lot of A-list actors who, while not being godawful, are definitely pretty meh in terms of acting chops. I always say a lot of people who are "acclaimed" or known for being good actors somehow play the same person in every movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 09:35 PM
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I kinda agree to an extent. He almost looks too pretty with some type of feminine quality in many photos that I find viscerally offputting, and I normally don't have anything against the looks of feminine men deemed attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 09:07 PM
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And yet most people don't know who he is which goes toward my argument looks don't matter as much for men. Most women/people just see a pretty picture and then move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 08:47 PM
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The fact that Pierson Fode - you're gonna need to google him - isn't a household name and America's #1 Hollywood leading man is proof looks aren't everything in show business as he probably makes lesser Chads (i.e. all of them) cower and stew with jealousy. Most A-list actors are for sure decent looking enough but it's obviously much more about connections and knowing the right people. A similar example being the much more known Henry Cavill whose career is no stranger to bumps and valleys despi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 08:39 PM
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no way to deny it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 08:24 PM
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I haven't found the placebo to be effective. Furthermore, in addition to ofc the neurological benefits of caffeine eg cns pathway proliferation, prevention of degeneration, you don't even get the other antioxidant and related health benefits with decaf. Caffeinated coffee is the largest source of antioxidants in the american diet, for better or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 08:20 PM
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No it doesn't, a man suddenly becoming somehow cuter or attractive after a woman notices his other qualities is a timeless trope for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 08:16 PM
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pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 07:30 PM
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Because looks don't matter as much for men, it's biology humans figured out many millennia ago. I don't care what terminally online black or pinkpillers who watch tiktok 24/7 say. It's clear the men with social skills, status and uninhibition win out every time. If everyone in any one pool is socially r*tarded and a sperg with bad posture afraid of his own shadow then ofc the insta model guy is going to come out on top, that's irrelevant. That being said, there are definitely tons of men out the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 07:27 PM
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People can't understand and frankly dgaf about nuance, they need to categorize everyone neatly into boxes so they know how to respond according to their narrative. Tyler Robinson probably had become steeped in some leftist beliefs, fight the power/revolution propaganda, online edgelord symbolism etc for a while. His particular circumstances or predisposition also left him vulnerable to shame or critique (eg his sexual orientation or his relationship w/ his roommate) from his community. But ultim…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 06:23 PM
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I know a lot of guys in finance and marketing and I've never heard that but it's not like I don't believe it happens lol. Sounds more like that performative male stuff that's been making the rounds on social media. I was joking about the ass-beating part, I'm also a social chameleon but I don't think I'd ever say stuff like that out loud bc it would sound corny and fake as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 05:41 PM
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I don't think I've ever met a guy who talks like that, and if I did I'd wonder why he's still saying such things after having surely gotten his ass beat multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 01:39 AM
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i misspoke
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 12:13 AM
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This role was written for you, one of those movies with Amy Addams as the kindhearted but slightly nosy protagonist wondering what her neighbors are up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 12:06 AM
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i think that's what makes them say it isn't pizza, the lack of classic red a good pizza encompasses the perfect combo of sweet, sour, umami, bitter, savory etc but in the end "real" pizza isn't even supposed to have meat, also authentic or closer to the original source doesn't mean superior
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:23 PM
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suffering from success
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:10 PM
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bbq chicken pizza is my favorite kind of pizza which all my friends say is a blasphemy but it's like slow down luigis we aren't eating real pizza in this country anyway have several seats
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:05 PM
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You posted almost this exact same recollection a month or so ago. Yea we get it women like white ballcap-wearing skater fuckboi types in america - or something close enough like yourself when you play it up. Niche/archetype-maxxing is legit as it gets, although what you're describing just has wide conventional appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 08:27 PM
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There's a new dailychat up now dude don't want your schizo posts going to waste
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:22 AM
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AFAIK just knowing and staying silent isn't enough to be called an accessory. But he certainly would have been if he obliged when his son inevitably contacted or asked him for help.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:08 AM
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how about her songwriting tho on par with elliott smith certainly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:49 AM
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Both types of women give signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:30 AM
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I've been watching a lot of Charlie Kirk's clips and I can see why a lot of people are not big fans of him, I find myself agreeing with some of his views and disagreeing with a lot of others. Some of the things he says seem to be dog whistles for more problematic underlying nuances and undertones like that of white supremacy, though he has vehemently denied being a white supremacist. He also never said black women lacked brainpower, he was talking specifically about four black women in particula…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:30 AM
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The takeaway is you're not Chad and just a backup plan if she sent you only 158k messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:40 AM
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You're already on that asian dad time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:31 AM
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LOL a trick that got passed around way back when was to text her a lot for 2 days, then not text at all for 4-5, and then repeat. A stacy who was kind enough to offer me a ride home from school during the holidays tried to set me straight and tell me women aren't stupid and they are obviously onto this type of shit. I still think it works to an extent, the same way men know what women are doing but they're still taken by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:01 AM
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They're still maintaining he was a leftist but the mental gymnastics are questionable. What I'm seeing is reposts of quotes from his presumably conservative friends saying he constantly disagreed and argued with them and them saying it was getting pretty intense, including the markings on the shell casings (although the 'gay lmao' one reads more like edgelord). All in all you can say what happened was a product of conservative white gun-happy america's own doing that let to Kirk's death by someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:58 AM
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I feel like a lot of high-profile cases in recent years have ended like this or maybe I just don't know the details. It's like they aren't getting anywhere but then they get a big tip (e.g. the mcdonald's worker calling in to report seeing Luigi). Makes me wonder if we'd be catching half these guys if there were no tips and they were relying on their own devices. cameras and forensics, of which I'm told the technology should be absolutely incredible and basically magic by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:48 AM
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it's too bad you couldn't see the man that boy could be, there's more than meets the eye, I see the soul that is inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:44 AM
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u korean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:42 AM
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sorry girl but u missed out, well tough luck that boy's mine now we're more than just good friends, this is how the story ends
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 12:05 AM
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I think you just need to kind of get over the idea that if you look visibly asian(ish) you're not going to be a woman's first primal go-to on sight in some places in America esp if away from the coast. I recall you yourself have admitted despite your rants you do just fine with your fit body and conversation skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 12:03 AM
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Decent wholesome looking asian dude. So not zero appeal even though he's not what's popular in mostly white or black populations. He def has a chance with a lot of women if he can stick around long enough to show her his qualities. Is that what you look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 11:57 PM
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he was a sk8r boy she said c u l8r boy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 11:30 PM
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He looks like a variant of Justin Bieber. His type will always have broad appeal in america, just a young, white, active, conventionally decent-looking guy, in addition to women liking "thinner" dudes. Honestly it's all making much more sense, I was thinking people in your area liked these big bearded burly beer-chugging guys in caps watching football or something but this picture tracks with what you've said. He looks more like he skateboards
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 11:21 PM
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I mean unlike the duck thing I don't think the smile is all that bear resembling, it's just a tight-lipped smile from a guy that's your type, not gonna work on you if it's coming from a skinnier dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:58 PM
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That's just the awkward tight-lipped smile you give someone in the hallway when you aren't close to them but don't hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:51 PM
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The conservative sub is saying he grew up conservative and fell under the spell of extreme leftist ideology Typical for people to just spin it however they like I'm inclined to believe there were leftist elements but he's still part of the weirdo 4chan demo which speaks volumes, he acted functionally as a rural pro-gun redstate kid steeped in american conservative and republican culture gone crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:49 PM
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Some dudes were watching a show in the living room and it was a bunch of jacked guys working out in prison and one of my friend's buddies was like "See no excuse to be out of shape ever if they can do it." I said nothing bc I didn't wanna look stupid but it's not unlike things I hear now and then, but how do they maintain so much lean mass despite having the facilities to train? Does their diet regularly afford them over 150g protein/day easily or what.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:38 PM
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There were many other things going on like Kamala being shoehorned in as the frontrunner without constituents having any say or vote, sentiments re Biden's incompetence and condescending patronization from the left (or perceived as such). Also just dissatisfaction overall with the way things were economically that might not have been entirely the Dems' fault. Kamala's campaign itself didn't contain much of that progressive woke identity politics stuff at all and there were attempts to bring up t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 09:58 PM
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Makes sense, but with trans-rights being the centerpiece of your narrative it's bound to upset a lot of people of all persuasions when your agenda is filled with tackling the problems of less than 1% of the population while fuck all is given about issues that affect the average American. Also, are trans people worse off than gays? What if the trans person is richer. Better looking? Smarter? White and conventional vs POC? "Well, all things being equal" sure but the progressive left rarely cares a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 09:30 PM
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Who's fault was it to say we have no right ever to question anyone re: how they identify and then everything just snowballed? Was it trans people themselves or the opportunistic with a narrative to push or both. I am not thoroughly informed on this so honest question. I'm also not saying I know for sure whether this person is trans(obviously), but I can see how gatekeeping can just be used in contexts like this to avoid accountability i.e. no true scotsman. "Those aren't real Christians/feminist…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 09:03 PM
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People will always be giant evil hypocrites. Plenty of non-Americans would be happy and celebratory to see their political opponents shot, there is zero difference - maybe even worse depending on the country. It's just much more likely to happen in the US bc of gun culture and laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 08:47 PM
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"If “leftists” were a minority of their party then why are important figures like Governor JB Pritzker of Chicago encouraging police to resist help from the national guard when they have the highest murder rates in the world? The Democratic Party is not made up of “liberals” it’s made up of radicals." That's why there's a lot of talk about the far-left hijacking the democratic party. It's a lot of liberals being complacent or allowing radical talking points out of convenience bc looking/sounding…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 07:28 PM
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If you are heavily influenced/marked by traditional culture why wouldn't you also think a woman needs a man to take care of her? If anything that would be an even stronger, more prevailing thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:59 PM
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There are differences between establishment liberals vs leftists - the ones actually for defunding police, but a lot of the former are armchair activists shielded from the consequences of public policies. They tolerate or parrot what the more extreme left says out of convenience and virtue signaling. Like the conservatives who don't agree with alt-right or full-on white nationalism but won't actually speak out against it either bc they all want the same candidate(s) to win and prioritize common …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:16 PM
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The modern dynamic with the apps and such which promote ADHD swiping and waiting for the next best thing in milliseconds have warped things. That's why social circle is key. If a woman saw a guy that fulfilled the 3 criteria you initially listed on an app she wouldn't bother to give him the time of day, but if she saw him on a regular basis while spending time with the same people/friends he has a chance to win her over with personality or other qualities. Sounds mega blue-pilled but it's true. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:10 PM
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"Agreed, and it’s not necessarily even looks either for a lot of these guys either. Some of the guys that bring women back to their dorms were just slightly above average dudes too" Yes, what I've noticed throughout my developmental yrs is the men who do best have social status and/or display of extroversion and uninhibition in common. Good looks help but were never a must or applied to every guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:59 PM
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Masculinity is always a safe path to strive toward. Masculine dudes will never suffer. Ugly brutes will aways have a sizeable market. When straight women say they like "feminine" men it's always a young lean dude with chiseled facial features and good skin or hair. That's just a young Chad who grooms himself. It's purely aesthetic and a very narrow category; men who are actually feminine (wide hips, narrow shoulders, submissive, soft potato face, extra BF) are repellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:51 PM
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I'm not going to say most women like douchebags, date r@pe, ignoring consent obviously, all that, but they will tolerate the risk if there's social perks, status, lifestyle, fun times, attractive [enough] dudes. That's the part they won't say out loud and miscommunicate to men looking for dating advice. By all means be a nontoxic "good" person because it's the right thing to do, but that's not the thing these men are lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:44 PM
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I'm about 15 hrs into Silksong, managed to beat those birds and the bird boss but pretty sure I'm not that close to starting Act 2. Is your partner just really good and/or putting in major gametime or am I just bad x)x)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:50 PM
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Yea Trump most likely would have lost against Clinton or Obama. Mirrors the dating realm in a way. Bad and exciting beats out good and boring, but good and exciting beats out bad and exciting unless the woman has major issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:29 PM
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Unless she's a stripper that's a pretty clear sign brah. Does she normally take her shirt off randomly in front of ppl or..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:49 PM
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Last shitty comment before I go back to Hollow Knight, but a lot of times you can't blame men for just playing it safe and pretending it's nothing. It could be legitimate flirting or touching and you don't know if she's just bored, seeking attention, or if that's just how she is with people. A lot of men are terrified of looking stupid or labeled a creep for misinterpreting signals or overstepping boundaries. Especially if say it's a person you'll see regularly again like at school, work or in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:46 PM
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It's weird being an adult and playing whenever you want. As a kid my parents were somewhat strict about it and limited play to like an hour every day or even every 2-3 days. Sometimes I would sneak a game or two in late at night after everyone was asleep
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:36 PM
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It's actually not one of the bosses it's like a trapped room where I have to fight a bunch of bird enemies in Greymoor at the far right, I feel like I'm close but always one hit short. Seems like I should've upgraded my needle by now but my friend volunteered that it doesn't happen til later, which I interpreted as his way of talking shit that he was far ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:34 PM
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Oh yeah it's an absolutely beautiful game, a wee bit inconsistent here and there with the art but really it's nothing. I have my little nitpicks and gripes re: save points and healing but overall I'm having a good time Just been stuck in this one spot for like 2 hours x(
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:25 PM
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It's just a sub for forever alone people to take pictures of their food and cooking, nothing more Also I've been at Silksong all morning, 10 hours in (yea..rookie numbers) and I'm stuck but I refuse to ask for help or look up guides
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:21 PM
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Sorry for not giving humans the benefit of the doubt, but I don't think women who choose bigger or more "bad boy" type men are consciously thinking "why not, the weaker smaller ones can overpower me anyway." Also pretty naive or disingenuous to disregard the fact that there's obviously certain types of guys more prone to being abusive over others. Like seriously sure let's go with the drug dealer over the nerd bc let's be honest 'you never know which man is misogynistic yesallmen itsalwaystheone…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:12 PM
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Nothing inconsistent there, the bigger more dangerous men are capable of inflicting more harm If I was a woman paranoid of physically abusive men I'd set my sights primarily on the smaller passive ones All in all the basement dwellers are simply unattractive, there's no point in choosing a safe guy if you're not into him
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 05:44 PM
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Almost like social skills and having normal interactive circles matter above all. If the gymbro was NT he'd do better than the skinny-fat guys, inb4 "no gym for your face" most gymbros aren't facially ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 05:31 PM
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Is there as much medical evidence and proof that therapy works vs vaccines? What about people who have tried therapy and failed or have phobias and insecurities about opening up? Also while we're kicking people with self destructive behaviors while they're down, are you against helping homeless people, many of whom are in that situation bc they abuse/are addicted to drugs and exercise poor decision-making? If so, at least you're consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:52 PM
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