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Nah it's lack of morals or bad/nonexistent parenting. Many broke people don't take advantage of others for money. You have immigrants making honest pennies sleeping in the back of their hole-in-the-wall businesses for decades so their kids can have it good. Bringing your friend out so she won't miss dinner? JFLOL Lemme hazard a guess it'd probably be good for her friend to skip a few meals to begin with. Edit: The only caveat is if she brought her friend just to feel safe or supported. I've hear…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:15 PM
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it's true, people who are happy or content feel no need to insult others even if they deserve to be insulted like that's not the energy they crave or need you can tell some people on here are constantly in a fight and combative state 5 happy and content femcels downvoted this ^^
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:14 PM
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Much of reddit is neurodivergent people making assertions based on the premise that their preferences and views are the norm to prove some type of against-the-grain point and then getting circle-jerk upvoted by other weird people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:52 PM
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I wanted to add it's not like girls don't face an equal amount of grifting bullshit growing up with all that princess pretty stuff, beauty and body standards, etc. But due to other ways in which society has gone out of its way to connect and send them messages, through programs and campaigns, the result has been different. It's not because, as another responder seemed to infer, girls aren't lazy or don't want the "easy way out" like boys are and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:27 PM
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A lot of these guys are basically kids or teenagers, you're just invested in blaming them bc that's the mainstream acceptable thing to do. Ofc they are taken in by flashy bugattis. You underestimate how little our society has done to reach out and connect with boys/men and a lot of prominent liberal talking heads have come to grudgingly admit as much in recent years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:11 PM
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You could be right and it doesn't disprove or argue the OP. The manosphere has a lot of problems - many delusions and lies wrapped up with truths which makes it more difficult to completely dismiss. But the unavoidable conclusion is still for all its faults, young impressionable boys and men turn to and stick with the manosphere bc the alternative is literally nothing or being talked down to by the mainstream. If you watch manosphere content and aren't 15, it's likely you'll see what looks like …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:02 PM
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High body count to some women mean's he's preselected as an attractive partner. High porn use suggests the exact opposite. Same logic doesn't work for women because the gender norms/expectations are the opposite as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:00 PM
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It's just thoughts and remarks, I'm not necessarily against what you believe specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:56 PM
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Yeah I was expecting that. "At that stage it's different bc you're already supposed to trust each other completely, feelings could get hurt!". Laws and policies are necessary to protect for a reason, and they exist for situations even between individuals who have supposedly long established trust and intimacy. Domestic abuse laws don't stop protecting children once they hit age 10 because they've already been safely under care for 10 years and the parents and kid have such a great relationship n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:51 PM
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You can want truth/dislike lies and also point out misandry packaged inside truths. Pattern recognition is a thing, it's also used to misinterpret or misconstrue trends, either that or the patterns aren't actually there. There isn't any hypocrisy really. People present all sorts of things as truth all the time and a lot of the pushback is about the interpretation or framing, the agenda behind it, although some will debate whether it's actually true as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:45 PM
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all about that reassurance and good faith until it's time to talk about prenups and paternity tests
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:35 PM
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idk if you're talking about that 'men expected to pay' discussion but in any case it's always hilarious to me when women say the man should pay bc it's some type of reassurance that he's serious and not just out for sex paying with the hope and expectation that she'll put out is literally a ubiquitous long-time trope
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:04 PM
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Regardless, we've been told many times that struggling and lonely women at least just mind their own business and don't spend their time spewing hate toward men, make demands or complain about men's standards, etc. which is obviously false as it's widely acceptable to shit on men even among regular women in the mainstream. Doesn't matter which category they fall in, FA, femcel, relationship-cel, post-wall cat lady, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:40 PM
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simply on fire tonight
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:07 AM
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And where did your Top 1% Commenter badge go? Gat dayum, the snark. Who says men hate drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:53 AM
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I'm a guy and not bluepilled, but to increase success with women I'd say you don't so much change your personality as much as hone your social skills and awareness to become a more outgoing and charismatic version of yourself. This can be done by first watching socially successful people and trying one's best to emulate them before adding in what makes you who you are. Which is more of a change in temperament, and I get there are limits in some cases if you are born with autism or are naturally …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:41 AM
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Men don't "care" about a woman's income the same way a woman doesn't "care" about a man's looks. It doesn't mean they'll date broke or ugly people - tho some will, it's just not as high of a priority individually but still has an important place in the overall bigger picture/package.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:39 AM
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I'm confused why don't the tops get criticism if they're old or not hot Or is the top usually the hot one the camera focuses on most
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:36 AM
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From observation the face just needs to be sufficient, a lot of other factors really elevate a guy like height (which is part of looks I guess), style, niche, vibe and energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:57 AM
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That's a pretty loose definition of hypergamy then. I myself as a guy would also like a partner who fills in where I fall short. Given the way you interpret it, hypergamy no longer sounds as "bad" since men can excel in various criteria while losing the lottery in others and there are always women who value whatever criteria they excel in. I've seen quite a few pretty women with chubby dudes, but admittedly 1) the guy might have been more fit when they started dating and 2) it isn't the norm, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:40 AM
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Well not everyone values each criterium the same and most people aren't even in all criteria across the board. If a pretty woman values intelligence and status she might agree to date an average kinda fat guy if he's smart and accomplished, but most guys here would say that would never happen due to hypergamy because usually their definition of hypergamy is primarily looks (and sometimes money) based. Rather than circular default argument of assuming hypergamy it's just a fact many people seek p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:32 AM
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That's how some men can punch above their weight. There are women out there insecure about specific criteria and/or are especially impressed by men who excel in said criteria even if overall objectively she is superior. Combine this with niche-maxxing and social skills, an unstoppable tank of a build. For better or worse, insecurity is also ominpresent to some degree in almost everyone, for purposes of brutal pragmatism you just need to know what it is for the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:44 PM
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Are you bisexual? But it seems like you vastly prefer women but it's like in college I've heard of men experimenting but I never was even curious because the idea of kissing or being physically intimate with men was just inherently repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:27 PM
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Two things can be true. Some guys are too stupid to notice things intuitively in the face of what they are told, and/but also that it sucks that what they're being told is false or virtue signaling and they need to be able to see past that to begin with. With the way things are currently, more and more guys are poorly equipped to properly perceive the world around them and have very little social awareness - as the causes are systemic it's of no fault of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:21 PM
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Heh. "At least femcels don't devote their lives to hating men, they just want to be left alone and wallow in their self pity."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:17 PM
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I suppose the "willing to do it for money" thing is understandable but that's a big diff from saying "That's mostly the reason I'm not gay" lol. There's just nothing viscerally or sexually attractive to me about men though I do think aesthetically speaking they can be very impressive or "goodlooking".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:52 PM
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When you say the bottom isn't a looker, do you mean commonly in gay communities the bottom is less attractive? Or are you talking about this particular instance tho I'm under the impression the image is a joke to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:45 PM
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"that's probably 95% of the reason I'm not gay, lol." That's all that's stopping you eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:41 PM
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Women, especially those who are outspoken or politically-minded, speak of men as a whole all the time with the underlying nuance they are talking about grievances about men most/all women face. When called out on it they say the exact same thing I did - "Well obviously not ALL men" but often times it's even "Enough men!" or "Not every man but always a man." The last one being especially egregious and wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:33 PM
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And if they do, they're hypocrites. But this doesn't diminish the importance of logic and comprehension while debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:21 PM
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In the OP's experience or perspective, a lot of women do to the point where he felt the need to address it, so it goes beyond "some women" to him. And I agree. In your experiences, it's not a lot of women/men who say this. And it logically follows that you would say so. That's why people make posts like this, because they feel a problem is common enough without needing to put in the obligatory "there are exceptions" and "not ALL __________".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:17 PM
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I would not go THAT far but I actually do understand the appeal. People vastly overrate face and underrate body on here. It works for men as well. A guy with a 6/10 face but is tall and jacked is basically gigachad, he doesn't need model facial features or structure, not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:44 PM
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Face is important, but once it's good enough, height and body take over for me. I love long legs and athleticism, if she's a 6 in the face I'll take her over any 8/10 without that body. If she's petite it doesn't matter how pretty she is, it's just not my thing. Honestly I think that's how a lot of women see it also. Tall old-money guys in polos and boat shorts and shoes, maybe curly hair, faces just look normal or goofy even but they have the nice tan, height and easygoing athleticism, always g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:40 PM
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Would not call anything on reddit normie really, and that sub has a lot of bitter hateful weird people. Metrics showed there was a lot of overlap between participants of that place and Female Dating Strategy when it was still active, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:49 AM
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There were big mainstream articles and op-eds from feminist advocacy groups and high profile sources talking about how it's problematic that such a popular film encourages misogyny and an abusive dynamic. What you're describing is more men here and there reacting to the reaction. You have a goodlooking rich man with dark triad traits in a movie very popular with women, you have the feminist criticism, then you have men noticing this and responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:50 AM
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His new nose looks feminine and less distinctive, I wonder if his moonface and loss of facial definition is due to post-op swelling from his procedures.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:26 AM
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He's talking about how feminists were complaining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:15 AM
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Whatever your height or bone structure, having good skin and grooming is going to help. Same with lifting or being fit, learning how to talk to people. I don't get this all or nothing shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:42 AM
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Ok so just say "in my experience most women don't do this" vs a rebuttal assuming a completely different premise from the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:36 AM
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Depends if the question is a standalone "Why do guys do ___________" with no further nuance vs "Why do guys do _____________, ugh women hate that." inferring men are clueless to women's needs or wants. I get the strong impression OP is talking about the latter and how often women say/strongly imply this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:21 AM
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I agree. Tell that to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:58 PM
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.....all hobbies take up time and require 100% or most of your concentration, you're not supposed to be doing chores while enjoying your hobbies. Do you feel the same way about hiking or reading or gardening bc they take up time as that's how time works. like what? Truly one of the most puzzling responses I've ever seen on PPD and that's a high bar. And I know not all women are like this as there are plenty of female gamers, but you sure do fit the trope of the wife/gf who secretly doesn't like …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:08 PM
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I'm not offended, I don't attach a big part of my identity with gaming. But I like to argue, and none of the reasons for why gaming is an inferior hobby ever make sense. I see logical inconsistencies and it's like an itch I need to scratch. "It's not productive" "You aren't creating anything" "You're not helping society" "It doesn't involve touching grass" - all of this is either incorrect or not any different from many "respectable" hobbies. It's very glaring since other hobbies get way less cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:48 AM
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Almost 2 years, have been here twice as long.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:27 AM
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Most hobbies boil down to just doing things you like, but it doesn't matter if you enjoy them; my point was if you're going to shit on video gaming or anime for lacking substance the logic would apply also or even moreso to these. Although frankly taking pictures for attention or photographing food, decor, lifestyle paraphernalia just to say you were there like a lot of people I've seen do does sound especially surface-level and vapid to me compared to actually playing a game.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:45 PM
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I would ask what you think constitutes a "good" hobby. If you feel happy or generate community from doing it I don't see the issue. You can for sure fall into the trap of doing things just to waste time because you have nothing better to do, but that can happen with most activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:16 PM
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I don't watch or gaf about anime, but it's a hobby many enjoy, just like gaming. At the very least they can use it as a way to establish new connections and friendships. gaming is inherently interactive. So I don't get the fixation on insulting these pastimes, versus what, watching Netflix? Streaming Love Island, buying outfits and taking a million selfies or pictures of food (that they don't eat)? Probably even more shallow and juvenile with less substance but not nearly as ridiculed as anime o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:10 PM
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You can dislike being lied to and also be appalled at honest trash opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:27 PM
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We've all had trauma and bad experiences son. I have enough reason to hate the world many times over, it's how you react to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:25 PM
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Femcels and incels have always been both sides of the same coin and 4B women being femcel-adjacent is the least surprising thing ever. All just bitter poorly socialized neurotic losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:22 PM
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Baseless statement just bc it feels convenient to insult lol. Like powerful politicians aren't an often self-selected group or that you can't pick depraved people out of any category if you're looking for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:19 PM
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Again, your type?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:00 PM
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Men will do it to traffic cones, dead bodies and animals This just tells me the type of men and places you're around. I'd move or stop going to these places.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:36 AM
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Who knows, but a lot of bi-men could be dating women just bc it's more socially acceptable to do so, or they're straight leaning. This is obvi even moreso the case with gay men dating women. It's possible bi-women date men bc of social acceptance as well, but I'm just taking it out of the horse's mouth, including a lot of what I've read here, that dating men is easier. There's also the possibility of overall straight women being sexually fluid identifying as bi out of confusion or before they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:51 AM
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But even most women admit dating men is probably easier. Bisexual women who, on the whole end up dating men say the same thing, even in the middle of the rebuttal e.g. "Men aren't better, but a lot of bi-women choose to date men bc it's easier." Or the double-handed thing: "Men have lower standards."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:41 AM
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I mean a small minority will remain guarded, most won't if you seem genuine enough, on the whole I think it'll be fine and even if it isn't who cares, it's not like you're trying to get with them. If there's a few women sometimes who are too jaded or cautious that's just their own thing then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:37 AM
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You can still do that when single but you just need to establish through social cues that you're just talking to them as people and not as a prospective person you want to date or fuck. For some reason a lot of men have problems doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:35 AM
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I think overall in 99% of cases it's going to be somewhere in the middle and I have a hard time being okay with a situation where even some of the bad stuff I described happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:44 AM
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Maybe they are both losers. The one settled for is possibly in for an entire relationship, months or maybe years of underlying resentment, disrespect, a sense of perpetual entitlement bc the other party pats themselves on the back regularly for giving them a chance. Every time they do something wrong or something that annoys their partner the other person is reminded bitterly that they settled. And if and when they break up, they'll be immortalized as virtue signals on reddit or dinner parties a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:15 AM
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Our apple strudel tossed out by the bakery at the end of the day at a random supermarket here beats out the allegedly superfamous strudel at the iconic bäckereis in Berlin, but you might have a point with how maybe our american palates are just accustomed to higher levels of sugar, growth hormones, fat, etc. Still, I'd like to think I account for actual flavor as well when making assessments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:34 AM
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Like for example in Switzerland, Austria or Germany a lot of the desserts and chocolate have been hyped up to me. It's irony again UK food is so shit on but I found not that much to complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:19 AM
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Even then why would the food in touristy areas of a country famous for its food be mid. Maybe it's like "just give this shit to them the dumb americans won't know the difference". Or, the participants in the tourism industry are the ones least equipped to put out quality product for some reason...idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:10 AM
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I have an esp hard time getting over the food aspect bc it's the most marketed and hyped up thing about Europe people have raved to me from past experience. Also talking about more tolerant or less racist, like you must be joking bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:09 AM
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Admittedly the most touristy parts of Rome and Venice. Tho tbh with the reputation Italian cuisine has it shouldn't need to be a super nice area.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:30 PM
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Assuming this post is real, it's the first one I've ever seen on PPD with a woman positing an argument in favor of/defending men. And I've been here a long while.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:17 PM
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A 10/10 pornstar on a screen does not have remotely the same visceral "lose your mind" effect as a 6-7/10 IRL exuding sexiness up close.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:11 PM
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Are you even ugly? Ugly women punch above their weight in long-term relationships all the time and you've come up empty for 20 years? It's 100% something offputting about who you are or how you come across to people or you're unaware of your standards and dismissing huge chunks of the male population. I'm not even saying it's necessarily your fault, maybe you have a personality trait that makes you deathly afraid of interacting with people or holding normal conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:08 PM
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But there's no broad generalization that European food is shit and American food rules. In reality I found American food to be better overall, from the high quality stuff down to the gas station or small market fare.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:42 PM
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Actually true. I'm amending this answer bc the reality is more like America is worse for those who are doing bad (may or may not be their fault) but better than Europe for those who are doing well (may or may not be to their credit).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:35 PM
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Yes, just like you don't want chinese from some gentrified clean fancy establishment catered to white people who will readily pay for overpriced mediocrity or can't tell the difference anyway It's always some small dirty place with 25 food health and safety violations; you know shit's going to be good
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:17 PM
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Are you a Korean woman, just curious
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:12 PM
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Americans are constantly told their country is 3rd rate and uncultured and Europe is so much better. I've traveled to Germany, France, the UK, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Netherlands, and Greece. Ironically never been to Scandinavia despite having Scandi blood. The food and "culture" in all these countries is so overrated and bland it's not even funny. Funny British food isn't actually that bad and/but I thought French, Italian and Greek cuisine are supposed to be peak? Don't get me started on the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:57 PM
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Depends on the woman. Many liberal women offer to pay their share automatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:47 PM
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Still a very small percentage AFAIK, and the ones who do were already man-haters, neurotic femcel-adjacent, or partial to radfem ideology to begin with so really how much of a loss is that. It's like the undesirable chuds who threaten to go MGTOW, take their ball and go home. The fat SJWs who threaten to never date conservative men, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:38 PM
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Fucking around and shitposting because it's a place online to vent or waste time, I can't imagine how sad it would be to actually try and get a relationship or meet members of the opp sex on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:37 PM
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Nobody participating in 4B was active or even visible in the dating market to begin with. Plus I speak for most men when I say I would rather be single and lonely than date someone who was an election or grift away from embracing 4B. Women in general will never forego sex or relationships with men they feel attraction to and men who get nothing will continue to get nothing. Zero lost, zero changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:34 PM
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Why does he have red hair in the first panel
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:39 PM
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Loyalty being most important doesn't equal loyalty is all that's needed...what is even this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:01 PM
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just from glancing at his comment history i'm surprised you didn't see it when you saw his previous posts
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 06:13 AM
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gotta say I agree with the overall response to him not being willing to date a fat woman despite being fat himself
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 06:07 AM
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looks like your type
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:57 AM
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Exactly like that for the past 2 years. But I do like just black also.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:34 AM
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Isn't there a pretty sizeable percentage of feminists who are vehemently against choice feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:34 AM
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The default is/was for men to take women at their word. When this didn't work for many guys, they turned to other sources. Men have no need to lie here, if RPers didn't find success in acting a certain way with women they wouldn't keep doing it. Your gigantic faulty premises are that women explaining what they want is accurate information and that attraction surely must be inherently moral. Also, funny all those things you listed re what women want are rarely even voiced by women (like feeling s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:24 PM
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maybe i just automatically see it that way bc that wojack meme guy is usually depicted as a depressed loser
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:30 AM
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Maybe just differences in interpretation. In the comic above he seems desperate and simpy, not nonchalant like "you're hot, take it or leave it, bye"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:19 AM
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he seems the opposite of indifferent
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:58 AM
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I dunno, maybe she was at least open to something more. That's how a lot of people see other people. Not absolutely or never but if things begin to progress or happen it's a maybe sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:56 PM
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You get that wakeup call when a couple months into the relationship you see your unkempt hungover Chad/Stacy taking a shit on the toilet in a dirty tanktop - and hmm have they gained weight? - as you step over them to pick up your clothes to get dressed in the morning. They're not even doing anything to make you upset, it's just the mundanity of life and everything gets old.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:50 PM
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I just like doing nice things for others, but it's not entirely selfless as it makes me feel good about myself or sufficient. There was this girl I used to work with a few years ago, over time we got to talking just as friends and I became somewhat invested emotionally in her stories and issues and looked forward to her company. A few weeks before I left I got her a nice bag just as a gift. She understandably thought I was seeking something more but like many months later a mutual friend told me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:45 PM
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It's understood between the lines everyone cares about money to an extent vs the trope of women wanting the man to make more or a lot of money. Like if someone says they don't care about looks they still have a limit, they probably don't want someone ugly, they just don't need to be esp attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:58 PM
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There are things I do to attract women and things I do to feel like a good/less bad person and they don't really overlap. I mostly try to donate or do good things to make me feel better about who I am even though I know all the good deeds I do won't be enough. I operate under the assumption that doing nice things doesn't attract women anyway versus projecting a healthy extroversion, conversation skills and intelligence, looks, humor etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:40 PM
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huh what
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:33 PM
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Why is this the case. With heterosexual dating you can say women have no game because as a group they've never needed it and it's the absence of social pressure, being the ones usually approached and the initiators primarily being the men, if you exclude passive things like giving signals and stares. Among lesbians you would think many of them would have come to the realization they need to be more proactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:18 PM
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Even if it is about money, I don't see how high-earning women are inconsistent with hypergamy. These women pursue better lives and means and want men with even better lives and means. This is another discussion but two problems readily visible being 1) dwindling of dating prospects because less men go to college now and 2) the association of high value with any 4-year university degree. Many women and people are socially conditioned to believe they are better with an art history degree despite b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:17 PM
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is that your boy Mamdani
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:28 AM
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If she lost weight she'd be skinny and short, and petite asian women are the most glazed and overrated group in the west, source: am wasian. They say guys here can't tell the diff between a cute and average/ugly asian woman for a reason. As usual femcels and incels oft subscribe to white supremacist ideals even if they aren't white, and asian women are one of the biggest offenders of white worshipping to begin with. You like that particular femcel/post because she specifies no hate toward men, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:24 AM
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Absolutely, and they can do that on their own time. But if you trust to enroll your kids into any type of school system you let the teacher do their work. And who's to say the other parents are okay with your suggestions to begin with? Again, it's about respect and space. Otherwise why even have a teacher, they aren't babysitters, just do homeschool then since you think you know so much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:12 AM
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That's another discussion, but my friends who are teachers weren't anything like that. In fact it's the parents who would be more likely to be on board with that stuff as these are more the elitist liberal type communities. Regardless of ideology or politics it's more just arrogance and the inability to respect the teacher's craft and know one's place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:06 AM
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The teacher's job is to teach, not the job of the parents or govt officials. They follow a curriculum, doesn't mean they shouldn't have primary say or creative process in how to go about things w/o having stay-at-home parents butting in incessantly bc they have all the free time and refuse to admit their child isn't a prodigy. Friend is a teacher, these Karens will email her with lists of suggestions and demand responses within the day. If you can't help but stick your ass into everything and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:40 AM
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Yeah, she pre-approved you because of your rizz, game, or persona. Ideally a woman doesn't want to assess a man without seeing how he acts around others, even though sure many will assess a man based on photos on OLD bc well they have no other choice. That being said of course there are men who are immediate 'hell no"s and "hell yes"s depending on the specific woman, but most men fall in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:32 AM
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Probably bc many women have never registered significant positive or negative reinforcement with respect to their social skills as men don't care as much about it - but apparently some men do as evident. Men learn quick when how they're acting is generating a positive or negative response from women and have to readjust accordingly if they ever want to get better results. Edit: Well maybe not all men. A lot of guys who struggle also seemingly are in the dark with how they come across.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:46 AM
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....He said he's 160 cm before shoes or lifts. That's not even 5'3" much less 5'8". Honestly the obvious answer is yeah I feel for bro bc he's going to be struggling hard at that height. But she did agree to go on a date with him, which is surprising and maybe he actually did get rejected in large part for his cringe behavior. Edit: Dude claims to be 5'6" in other posts, so I'm not sure if he's just bad at converting to feet/inches or if he reports his official height with shoes and lifts on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:22 AM
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Yes, obviously they aren't the same thing. I'm saying I see men being accused much more often for the 2nd circumstance. When most people give these men "advice", it is often based upon the premise that the men possessed preexisting moral failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:11 AM
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From what I've seen and read, the broad general sentiment we're talking about isn't "Getting mad and hateful at women isn't going to help" as much as "Women can smell your misogyny a mile away, no wonder you struggle." I don't see them as identical, I simply see the latter way more than the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:04 PM
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My point is a lot of people make that assumption. Here and elsewhere. And furthermore this assumption is encouraged and validated by much of mainstream media and press. This clashes heavily with your Nobody is saying a man who struggles with dating is automatically a bad person like it's remotely rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:57 PM
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The voting system should just go away altogether, as it was originally meant to prioritize comments most relevant to discussion and obvi nobody uses it that way and humans can't be trusted not to be butthurt or petty. Most upvoted comments are often not the best ones. That's why so many subs and discussions just turn into echo chambers reflecting the sentiments of the average redditor and hehe that's not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:16 PM
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Actual colds usually last longer than 48 hours. You probably just still have a cold, tho the lingering cough afterward is also a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:14 PM
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Nobody is saying a man who struggles with dating is automatically a bad person A very common response and sentiment in gender debates is that if you're a man who struggles with dating it must be bc you're disrespectful, creepy, or misogynistic. It's even heavily implied in many mainstream articles either written to discuss or dispense advice to men, even if the "advice" is written in less crude or insulting terms and with professional lingo. And a response to the OP: It also works the other way.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:12 PM
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Are you talking about PPB who go to other countries for the main purpose of fucking prostitutes who are already part of an exploitative system or just guys who travel overseas to meet women they deem more traditional and in line with their values? I'm not sure how fair it is to argue against passportbro'ing under the premise most are the former, although it's not like I'm familiar with the details or demographics. "Again I don’t think anyone denies that." Plenty of people deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:00 AM
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But do you also understand that while women may have a problem with not liking their options, men will have an even bigger problem with this due to having fewer options to begin with? Ergo women have a quality issue, men have a quantity issue and an even bigger quality issue. That's why many men have trouble empathizing when women bring up the 'quality of options' thing to dismiss or counter men's grievances. Also moreover bc it's brought up as a way to say "See we have it just as hard or worse.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:49 AM
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For sure, but most of the time I just comment to put my thoughts out there, and in other cases just to fuck around or waste time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:35 AM
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If women will always have options period and men won't, it's not ridiculous to talk about settling just because you have no choice but to admit women have it easier. You honestly can't compare a woman who purposely goes for a comparatively rich foreign man to the guy who struggles and goes for the first woman who likes him back in resignation. There are more nuances to the passport bro issue because they see the women in their own countries as inferior in that they are morally compromised, corru…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:25 AM
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That was my comment from another thread he pasted that you were responding to..my point had been that "your league is what you attract" "market speaks for itself" are stupid arguments bc dating supply and demand are determined by the very socially engineered aspects of society being discussed. ..but to respond to you if a foreign woman decides to get with an old western man for money, I wouldn't call that settling. Bc presumably, she has other options, including younger better looking local men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:03 AM
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I can assure you treating women poorly is not on the list of reasons for why men struggle, bc if they were charismatic with good social skills they wouldn't be having issues, for better or worse. No man wears raging misogyny on his sleeve and wonders why he can't get anything. That being said there are reasons that are definitely personality-based, manifestations of autism, social stunting and crippling introversion being a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:09 AM
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Society acknowledges that men have it harder dating wise That's news to me. Body positivity campaigns, skewering of beauty norms, discourse re toxicity within relationships, most of these are critical of men in the interests of women. It is female body positivity that's stressed, male standards and preferences that are bad, toxic men in relationships are the focus. Condemnation of what? To the extent that it happens, it's condemnation of men as an entire group (#yesallmen). Not just the chuds or…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:26 PM
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Strangely all this "league is what you can get" BS gets thrown out the window and the accusations of manipulation come in when ugly middle-aged western dudes start punching way above their weight in poorer countries. Point being sociopolitical and environmental factors matter a lot in terms of "what you can get" in any one place, at any one time/era. Hence why these discussions exist, because at the core is the zeitgeist and socialization of people which in turn affects dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:23 PM
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I don't think men are expecting women or society to really fix anything. Most who are struggling just want acknowledgment and understanding that it's hard all over esp with dating and to stop with the constant condemnation of men, how privileged men are etc as a group as per the progressive narratives. Mainstream society has this thing of ranking victimization or oppressorship to different demos, when ultimately all the male privilege in the world doesn't mean shit if you're say, poor or ugly. J…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:20 PM
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In my experience women will not mind men who are good at talking to people approaching them even if they aren't looking or interested. But I get that if you're not good at it it's probably not the best idea to start with women you don't know. Once you're good at talking to people in general you just treat women like everyone else. One of the "compliments" I've gotten from a woman was how women like how I talk to them like regular people. I mean I'll take it but I didn't think it was such an unco…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:35 PM
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"Work on yourself" can be in the form of something dismissive and oversimplified but in the end it is the solution. If practicing talking to women is too intimidating focus on just being good at talking to people in general. In school I watched how the socially successful guys talked to others and how they carried themselves and did my best to mimic it at first before slowly adding my own personality and quirks in. You can get ahead by "working on" many things but social skills is pretty high up…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:21 PM
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He's not saying average men can't be bad partners, he's saying women will complain about men not doing better in relationships but then rush into one with a tall swaggy guy and overlook a shorter one even if the shorter normal guy has a better personality. I don't necessarily agree with him entirely, but that's the train of thought there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:57 AM
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The underlying premise is a tall stylish asshole is more appealing to women than an average/short guy who isn't one so women will readily overlook the latter and rush into relationships with the former. He's not saying shorter men can't be assholes, he's pointing out the hypocrisy when women tell men to be better partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:35 AM
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I agree, but only bc the empowerment industry is so mainstream and normalized and far reaching, much moreso than the redpill no matter how many articles you read about it. Manosphere stuff, while it has leaked into everyday culture a bit, remains something that is really only taken seriously by the terminally online.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:34 AM
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yeaaaa buddy ^^ and congrats to your friend
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:09 AM
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How's your Street Fighter game tho. Still got it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 08:06 AM
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I mean I'm not on the discord or talk to people on here off reddit but from all vibes and comments you don't give off lesbian at all but Idk how you dress or style yourself so.. If anything you give off major tradwife vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:12 PM
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Aren't you a Chad chaser/admirer? I woulda thought if you were even bicurious you would have expressed interest in feminine men unless you were vocal about Chad chasing due to social pressures.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:02 PM
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No it's not cool, bc I didn't do anything that would make her question the integrity of our relationship, versus if I flirted back, or flirted with other women. People are gonna flirt with you and you're gonna find other people attractive, but how you react to it is what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:09 PM
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Did you mean "your" SO. I wouldn't expect that no bc it wasn't reciprocated. If I flirted back I would say she's in the understandable right to not want to be with me anymore. It happens so often and I observe it so often as well it's super depressing. Again not saying it's the healthiest way of going about things but that's what makes me not want to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:07 PM
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If my SO flirted with another man, we're done. No establishment of boundaries necessary like "don't do that again" even if she agrees. We're not even talking about blame, it's the seed planted that either she's not happy with me - whether it's my fault or not - or she's not the type of person I thought she was. There would be perpetual doubt that things are the way they're supposed to be. What's the point if I have to issue an ultimatum for her to stop doing it, the preexisting desire to do it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:29 PM
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The problem is not someone finding you appealing, it's acting on it while in a committed relationship. Yeah, it's not as bad as actually cheating but it says enough about that person to discourage someone from being with that person in any capacity to begin with. That's how I see it anyway, maybe some other dudes are more ok with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:23 PM
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It's actually depressing bc it makes you less trustful of people and afraid of being in a relationship. It's depressing even when you're just the one observing it and it's happening to other people. Watching people in general makes you trust people less. If she'll flirt with you in front of her bf, she'd do the same to you if you were her bf. You can also imagine what people do when their SOs aren't even around although frankly no need to imagine as I can see it every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:14 PM
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B/c it's true. It may not be completely genetic but it's def in part due to past or current circumstances that affected the development of social skills, cognitive processes and current state of mind. The fact that men here consistently assert the average man can't get an LTR (inb4 but then he's probably a betabuxx) to save his life is a testament to how out of touch or on the fringes they are. Nobody remotely "normal" or functioning effectively as an adult would say or think this. The part I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:04 PM
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If you're over 20/25 and have limited dating-type interaction chances are you have a ton of issues and baggage that explain why. So not surprising if you throw a whole ass person into the equation of life they are already dealing with things can get worse. Previously, the individual incorrectly perceives his state of dissatisfaction and unease as something that is solved with the introduction of a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:03 AM
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in thailand they're just called couples x)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 11:51 PM
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I think groups with this type of energy from multiple sources actually benefit everyone in feeling comfortable or having a good time. The caveat being as long as it's not overbearing or "heavy handed", but if you were making this mistake even as just one guy it would backfire anyway. There are other details you could focus on like slowing down the way you are talking or moving, volume calibration and so on. The reality though is that guys who are like this are just in the clear minority and even…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 11:43 PM
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If men wanna be successful try to cultivate a persona and way of talking that makes people feel included. Learn to hype someone up, bonus points if the hype is based off of things they told you in the past about themselves to show you listen and remember. Just have to do it like you're a personal trainer or corner man and not someone desperately giving compliments so she'll go out with you. Insecurity and the need for validation and boosting of self esteem is so rampant even women (and men) in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 11:16 PM
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(btw, i am the same poster on my other account) yeaaa man i'm not new here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:46 PM
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People may like how you look, your money, your persona, your intelligence, but they won't ever like those as much as they like how you make them feel about themselves, you could be doing it on purpose or just being you. That's what they remember and what sticks with them even if/when you're no longer in the picture. Sad thing is a lot of people want the conventionally hot partner, rich partner, respected partner, smooth talker who builds you up bc being with them raises their self esteem. Simple…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:22 PM
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people just do it subconsciously, how someone makes them feel about themselves is a huge factor in how drawn they are to that person, whether the reasons are shallow or not, and not just in relationships but probably all dynamics the world is full of those who do things i would've previously said "imagine _______" about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:12 PM
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just b/c it doesn't apply to you doesn't mean it doesn't apply to many other people i'm different from other men in many ways also not every woman cares about standing or status but the fact that it plays a huge role in attraction for many is not even open to be contested
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:08 PM
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Have you actually encountered people who unironically call themselves alpha and baddies or is this mostly insufferable influencers online who have to be overt and attention-whorish to get clicks? I know lots of successful goodlooking people and none of them are like this. Probably bc along with their success are traits like self-awareness and knowing this would be super cringe, and the absence of the need to compensate or broadcast their value.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:43 PM
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I mean you don't know that for sure as it's a case by case basis. Many people who are inherently successful with dating definitely have, unconsciously over time, adopted and engrained "tactics" and "strategies" to get their way and maximize results in life, not just in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:35 PM
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People seek out things to complement themselves or compensate. If you aren't lacking in money, resources or provisional ability you don't value it as much in a mate although there are those who will consistently chase even higher status or wealth. That's why those obsessed with height are shorter women and ironically the prettiest women aren't prioritizing looks bc they don't need an adonis on their arm to increase their own sense of self-worth and standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:58 PM
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"Single people will always catch feelings too easily." Speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:17 AM
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Yeah I was going to say, the most physically attractive men don't correlate with highest n-count at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:14 AM
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Is it that egregious or entitled to say you won't sleep with anyone you don't find attractive? By definition I think anyone you find attractive is at least slightly above average (to you).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:13 AM
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Yea I'd agree. Despite being mentally fucked I see just how many things I take for granted. Not having any real problems turns you into a giant pussy obsessing over menial shit nobody with responsibilities or a life gaf about 90% of the stuff the internet sensationalizes for heated debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:03 AM
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This would make a great first sentence/intro in one of those novels you buy at the airport or while on vacation to read on the beach.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:58 AM
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really? I think class is probably the biggest determinant of how easy/hard your life is going to be out of all those criteria and I'm no hardcore leftist
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:55 AM
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What else could it mean [more] in this day and age if not financial? Due to the existence of law enforcement, govt etc physical protection from a man isn't remotely as important as by design although female lizard brains still prefer bigger taller men. But for many women even in the modern day protector and provider still very much mean money bc that's how we secure land, resources and necessities and insure or mitigate against loss of said things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:36 AM
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It's a matter of degree. Many women love the idea of, or the actual provider and protector aspect of a man. Aside from being common sense and biology, many women freely admit this even here. But they don't want to be in a situation where if he decided to leave on a whim or if things went wrong she'd be completely fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:28 AM
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Things are better and more reliable than bad partners. Most people who have all the things in the world still feel a void and want a good partner or long-term companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:26 AM
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Honestly it's potentially more depressing when in a relationship if it's not going well or you don't feel understood. I've always felt at my loneliest when I'm around a lot of people - even those I am close to and enjoy the company of - because the chasm between their consciousness and mine is more apparent vs when I'm physically alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:09 PM
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Ofc the "but women have a quality issue with their options" argument again. On average men have a quality issue also and it's worse, bc of their quantity issue. It's like saying people today have it just as bad as people back in the olden days with difficult access to books, no internet and little information because people today have to sift through so much to narrow down the best sources. Also "the people we would actually consider" often depends on and changes in accordance with one's options…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:50 AM
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In the mainstream female gaze is good and male gaze is bad. Men wanting to be jacked? "You know women don't care about muscles right?" "You know masculine isn't always better" "Sounds like you're more obsessed with Chad than women are, you must be gay." but men saying they don't find what women like attractive in other women or don't care about clothing and accessories, "Do you even like women?" "Women don't dress up for men." or straight women saying borderline pornographic things to other wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:29 AM
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You called the cops bc you had trouble turning the lights off in your car? Either that or they saw you trying and responded to it? Slow night for them I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:51 AM
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not for my elephants nobody could fuck with them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:23 AM
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no i made my own art. My elephants could fly and breathe fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:13 AM
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My dad had those drawing instruction books where they show how to draw a photographically accurate elephant in like 3 steps, some circles, ovals and triangles at first, and then some shading within more shapes, and then the next panel is an elephant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:04 AM
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I would put it this way. You weigh an American with a 23 BMI, you say things are fine/good. You take a deeper look with more reliable measurements and markers, you see it's not that great anymore. You weigh another American with 27 BMI, you say hmm getting into problem territory. You take a deeper look, it's worse than you think. That's what would happen when assessing most people in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:42 AM
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I agree all those are important as well, and chances are if your BMI is high your numbers of the above are not good. People place a lot of faith in the fact that there's a possibility someone with high BMI is healthy bc it's convenient and comforting. Vast majority of those with 27-28 BMI could stand to make some changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:33 AM
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You're right, but if we measured the average person by something much more accurate like body composition, the results would indicate a health status and BF% that is even worse for any one BMI. Due to sedentary lifestyles and bad food most people are soft with poor muscle tone, strength levels and endurance regardless of weight. The best-case petty scenario is people with higher BMIs telling those with normal or low BMIs they are probably kinda overfat and unfit too. Those with high BMIs bc they…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:24 AM
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I deleted the comment bc all I said was we can also agree you don't understand what it's like to be a man. Which I noticed later you already said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:21 PM
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And plenty of men willingly engage in playfighting or "being pinned" with stronger guy friends, sometimes strangers in a competitive or martial class type setting. To that you would say "well men are less risk averse". I mean ok, but that just seems like circular arguing. Or just differences in biological wiring vs blaming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:45 PM
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Just specify it's the possibility that the man may want to take advantage of the woman in a sexual context then, not that men aren't also raped by women and other men. Because everything else is no different, men fraternize and associate regularly in close quarters with stronger men who could overpower or kill them at any time. Women being the weaker sex on average doesn't change the fact that between any two people regardless of sex one is going to be stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:36 PM
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Point is you compare any two people regardless of relationship, one is stronger and can overpower the other. You did say playfighting right? Why not just avoid anyone stronger than you then for any friendship or dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:24 PM
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"Nearly every woman has had a moment in her life when she was play fighting or wrestling with a guy friend or family member and had the realization that if they wanted to they could hurt or kill her." Yes, and also nearly every guy who has ever "play fought" with a guy or friend bigger than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:13 PM
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I've had a couple female friends tell me they were surprised at how horny they suddenly got after getting off the pill. Also mayyybe a coincidence but there are those women in my circles who aren't necessarily "man-hating" but have always had a type of mild disdainful demeanor toward men and you find out they've been on the pill all their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:55 PM
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Boring apathetic mediocre men (and ppl) are the norm, so I dunno what type of discussion you think might be interesting here. It would be most men having little to no trouble attracting women and the men who are naturally fun and energetic would probably become boring or act like robots on purpose to get women. Like some people said here, what a shitty world that would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:46 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:34 PM
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"Yeah, but if these guys were able to get women, they'd definitely be even more abusive!" Just anything to tell themselves to deal with the cognitive dissonance or for justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:32 PM
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I mean assuming this is real it looks like bro is right where he wants to be. Prob gets off on watching his wife fuck her bf. Then gets a Switch and presents? Win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:28 PM
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Yea we all know if it was a guy posting something like this you'd be on their ass with your notes, cape and tumblr quotes from 2005 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:25 PM
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Examples of male-centered women mean misandry doesn't exist? Does the plethora of men here who argue incessantly on the behalf of women mean misogyny doesn't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:43 AM
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Not everyone wants casual sex, and of the ones who do partake, it's more like once in a while before they settle down vs a very small minority with huge body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:27 AM
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Right, so which is the one that specifically can cause bladder issues? I recall reading about it in the news like elon musk experienced it or something
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:48 AM
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Like I didn't know kidney problems were the same or even related to bladder problems as I thought you can have organ failure or functional issues with one but not the other
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:59 AM
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didn't know they were the same
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:54 AM
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Actually true. Guys talk a big talk but many are so neurotic or afraid of their own shadow they don't even want to go through the trouble of getting it for someone very attractive even though if they could skip all that they would want it ofc. The sex occurs for a window of time but it's bookended by so much interaction and social navigation out of one's comfort zone. The easy access to porn has ofc made it even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:47 AM
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which is the one that causes bladder issues
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:40 AM
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So what I mean is if you were to take opiates, heroin or meth indefinitely how would it affect you negatively if you could somehow hold down a job and fulfill all other responsibilities otherwise associated with adult life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:35 AM
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I watched a documentary on the opioid epidemic and how it has affected smaller towns. I don't know much about this but do these drugs do (a lot of) direct harm to your physical health or is it more indirect effects like basically if you're addicted and your entire priority is chasing the next fix the rest of your life is neglected indefinitely and everything snowballs and falls apart?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:17 AM
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This sounds like something coming from someone who watches a lot of porn and has no friend groups. I'm not saying that applies to you, I've just had too much coffee and read this in an isolated context.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:08 AM
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Not the point. You still haven't explained how having a nice bed vs just a mattress equates to "not having fun vs having fun" or being unhappy. They have internet, games, tv, you don't know what their other hobbies are. Sure their living space is kinda immature, weird, sad, whatever but it has nothing to do with "not having fun".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:45 AM
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Yes. Also your friendships should just occur organically, I dunno how I feel about specifically seeking out friendships with people of one sex if that was a nuance you were conveying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:42 AM
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That's why so many people are unhappy. OLD forces an unnatural method of mate selection. When women have nothing to go off of but photos, they choose by looks or even just an avg dude who's lucky to look good on camera, or assumptions about the guy's aura, persona and lifestyle from said photos, and are confused why things go sour.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:28 AM
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If you associate having a nice large bed with fun and the opposite with "no fun" I'd be curious as to the logic behind it. There are people living destitute in countries with nothing who still find ways to experience pure joy and fun with those around them. Unhappiness oft comes from a gap between reality and skewed expectations, the guy with just the mattress but still has internet and tv, presumably amazon, doordash and a smartphone is living like kings could never have dreamed just like 30 ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:30 AM
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Hello RedSand. Phases like that def happen. I'm in that one right now. But eventually I do want to have a family and I was more talking about those who have "given up" or sworn off dating bc they have so much resentment eg MGTOW or 4B, both of which are massive c0pes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:05 PM
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I guess I should've clarified that the people you know also need to be under 30. Being an older person who's jaded or been through [many] bad relationships or marriage(s) choosing to be single is understandably much more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:29 PM
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Understood. Tho I'm def being downvoted by people who are single and not fine with it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:25 PM
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Interesting. Though being career-focused does not mean not wanting to date. even if it plays out that way bc they're too busy. I'm talking more like young people who just don't date b/c they can't find what they want, resent the opp sex or think dating sucks - like the people who complain online. I don't think I know of anybody like that and I have large social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:16 PM
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Ok so you're mostly describing older people, and the younger person is divorced. That makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:12 PM
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What are these people like? Hearing about them is like hearing about a different planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:05 PM
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Question for anyone under 30: How many single people do you know who are single because they want to be or have sworn off dating? I hardly know any single people to begin with and the ones who are are always checking for people or actively dating. For those who do know someone as described, what are they like or what are your social circles like? It's hard to imagine a young person IRL swearing off the opp sex (or whatever they are attracted to) completely despite the amplified angry voices on r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:56 PM
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Yes, for the dating dynamic social skills matter much more for men. Men and women are different and male and female friendships have their pros and cons.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:22 PM
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Maybe try something more interactive like a dance class. But yeah you have to have some modicum of social skills and non-negative charisma. The idea is more that if you have established social circles, which takes some time, your dating pool and chance for success increases as comfort and opportunity levels increase. Depending on the culture esp a local individualistic one or an environment where people stick to their own cliques or groups it can be hard to walk away from a single event with pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:19 PM
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Mid 20s, why does that matter? I mean if the vast majority of people date and have relationships then I'm not sure this entire post has much relevance then. It's no surprise the ubiquity of social media has given way for more poorly socialized people rather than putting it into this whole gender-war context.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:00 PM
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I'm not going to say for certain self-reported metrics are flawed but honestly it is pretty hard to see as almost everyone I know is either actively dating or in a relationship. I wonder if the people likely to take these surveys are more the housebound or severely introverted or what. Maybe a portion who are dating but don't feel 100% committed are also saying they are single or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:36 PM
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yeah nah obviously you have all sorts of faces, but on average being fat kills your facial aesthetics and overall look, take any person and chances are they will look better at healthy or lower BMI than a higher one. The fact that there are some women out there so genetically unfortunate being thin doesn't help won't change the basic point. straight up most people in america are fat so thin women are automatically in high demand, most men will agree who aren't low class with limited options
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:07 PM
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She is above average by virtue of simply not being overweight in what I'm assuming is the US although frankly this applies to many other countries nowadays anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:07 AM
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Honestly yeah, if a couple is not just tolerant or content, having 'made peace' with how things are with a more 'mature' type of love as a euphemism, and is instead still on fire for each other after decades I am curious how they did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:32 PM
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This doesn't necessarily align exactly with what you said but I was going to say relationships are by default a lot of work, even when things are good; in fact if you aren't putting in [a lot of] work things probably are not good. Many people, for a variety of reasons mental or circumstantial are not prepared or able to put in this level of work but get in relationships anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:20 PM
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Being in a happy relationship beats out everything. But if you can't have that, the next best thing is to be single, have freedom and work on life yourself. Problem is most relationships are lukewarm and routine at best, which people like to say are "happy" bc nothing is especially wrong. Again often a best case scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:16 PM
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I mean not even that. Most guys do at least some dating in college, not just the top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:25 AM
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That kind of takes the punch out of "Women only want above average men" then. Above average doesn't sound unreasonable. I'll go one step further and say only finding 20% of the population dateable is honestly borderline optimistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:10 AM
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But there are laws in place that punish abuse and harmful behavior yes? I assume you are in favor of those. The difference is women can't unknowingly mother a child that's not theirs for obvious reasons, and/but since protecting someone from this would only protect men you have a problem and would like to pick a fight about it. No matter how stupid someone's decisions are, they deserve to be protected legally from the motivations of bad people in a civilized society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:29 AM
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loll wtf? That's the point. Regardless of her poor choices or stupidity legal protection is necessary. Just as there are laws protecting women from domestic abuse there should be laws or policies protecting men from unknowingly raising another man's children or scammed out of his assets. Doesn't matter how "poorly" they chose.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:34 AM
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Interesting take....And since many women say they can smell misogyny and a terrible personality from men a mile away there's no need for all these pesky laws discouraging and punishing domestic abuse, assault, rape, and so on. /s obvi Laws and policies are necessary to protect people from other bad people no matter how stupid the decisions were, but I can see how a longtime poster of your persuasion would just throw this argument out there like provocative catnip for PPD misandrists to upvote. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:28 AM
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Yes, it is. You're around some stupid men. And it can always take longer but many people get serious after a few weeks. They've certainly fucked and taken each other to their favorite places.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:30 AM
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It's not a myth. It's honestly not that hard to act as someone different and I'm not a socio or psychopath. I might even say if you aren't capable of hiding [major] aspects of yourself to strangers there might be something wrong with you. Sounds strange to say but you're not giving POS abusers their due credit if you don't think they can come across as decent people and refrain from losing their tempers in the first few weeks or more with a new woman. On a related tangent I don't necessarily bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:23 AM
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Depends on the guy, some guys can and do hide it well at first. But sure a lot of women have trouble taking accountability for their poor decisions in mate selection and insist they can sense bad vibes in men immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:12 AM
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Obviously one does not always mean the other but they can coexist to create an especially terrible partner. What I mean is icks are usually subtle small things that cause doubt or negate spark or attraction at the beginning. Choosing to stay with an abusive person is different and often happens after attraction and commitment are long established.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:07 AM
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The ick is real. It just comes from things like how he chews, lacks assertion or strength in his voice, the way he walks, limp handshake etc instead of what you'd assume which is like oh I dunno the abusive behavior and blatant misogyny. But to be fair the ick is like a mild subtle thing that creates an overlying sense of doubt. Abuse would just be either a major glaring red flag, or condoned bc the person is messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:01 AM
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....these lists are not rare and many 14-15 y/o's are terminally online And seriously and unfortunately dude these lists are far from the worst things they are encountering.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:48 AM
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I didn't know better as an awkward 14-15 y/o tbh. A lot of those list items aren't obviously stalker-ish. It's things like "Make sure to compliment something about her like her sweater, she'll think it's sweet and see that you notice the details." From this there isn't a clear underlying requirement that she is interested in you, much less is already your gf. It's very much a piece of advice that can apply in the preliminal stage where you're trying to show your interest. Sad reality is if she i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:42 AM
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The young impressionable men who read these lists can't parse the nuance, and often times where they are seeking help is trying to get a woman to like them enough to become their partner in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:36 AM
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That is true. Women can be deceptive and harmful in other ways but generally there is no threat of being straight-up physically overpowered. Although nowadays I am always careful. Maybe I've been watching too many post-apocalyptic movies, one night a girl emerged out of the shadows when I was outside to ask me for basic directions somewhere and I immediately ran a safe distance back. You don't know what she has on her mind, or if she has a gang of men ready to rob me and she's the bait. Maybe ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:34 AM
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One of the items on those "15 romantic things women wish men would do" is always like "Surprise her at her work with flowers". Men finding it apparently has the opposite effect if she doesn't already like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:30 AM
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I got catcalled by women a few times while running, and it made me feel less like a dork. Maybe male privilege, it's rare enough that you still appreciate it and there's not as much of a threat to your well-being. Granted no doubt I'm sure these women were emboldened by being in a larger group or were probably not sober. I remember another time it was during the middle of the pandemic and it was a couple women on a porch and I was thinking man standards must've gone down what with people being f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:22 AM
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I think the dichotomy of female vs male gaze is way overblown, but in any case just look at how differently the female gaze and male gaze are each mentioned. One is refreshing, one is problematic. Men striving for masculine ideals or wanting to bulk up? "Dude are u gay" from someone who calls others homophobic and plays victim card for a living. "Toxic masculinity." "You know women don't care about muscles right?" "Heeher sounds like you're the one obsessed with Chad." But try to say you aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:18 PM
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But in like Kentucky right? Sry jp around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:24 AM
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even if women do these things they still won't orgasm even if they want to. But women are able to get themselves off with the right imagination or material just like men. It doesn't even take a long time contrary to popular belief. I realize there's more that goes into the female orgasm like a greater sense of comfort, but this shouldn't be a problem with a guy she trusts and has consented to have sex with assuming she finds him sufficiently attractive. So, if it comes down to "I need to have an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:49 AM
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When two people consent to have sex, it shouldn't be under the premise that one wants it more. It happens all the time but I find it problematic women are having sex with men just to either please the men, get something else out of it later (eg a relationship), and so on. Also both men and women masturbate, and a lot of times with submediocre sex it's just men bringing themselves to orgasm by fucking a woman just laying there. I've always did my best to be considerate about facilitating my partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:37 AM
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Why are things like the orgasm gap brought up and burdened upon men - ie women simply don't cum as easily as men and need more care and time - with biological difference citations but when it comes to other things that put men at a disadvantage it's "that's just biology/the way it is"? Like you don't tell women everyone is responsible for their own pleasure/orgasm but you tell men "Many men can get hard for ugly chicks and women can't do the same with ugly men" to dismiss dating issues about 80/…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:41 PM
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I like to debate and get more well rounded ideas This is how a lot of people are when they first come here. they only come to this sub to vent or fight with people they don’t like And this is how a lot of people end up bc the sub is moderated with the intent to facilitate fighting, not to reach any solutions or compromise plus that's just how people be online. I'm not invested enough to desire picking fights with the unlikeable people here. It's just a place to waste time and unload thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:11 PM
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Yeah some men can't hide their red flags. Not relevant though, what's relevant is women attributing misogyny and all the worst traits with unsuccessful men - as an excuse to rationalize why they can't find anyone - when successful men [can] have just as many red flags and are equally misogynistic if not moreso. Sometimes these successful men have their flags on full display and this doesn't deter women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:51 PM
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I don't think I have problems with initial attraction, I'm personable, can fake healthy extroversion, and give good first impressions I think, but often I've just watched her interest in me dwindle in real time over the next few weeks due to my own hangups and OCD-driven behaviors and fixations. I've been on and off therapy and so far it's been fairly underwhelming aside from just "it can be nice to have someone listen." The texting with women will go from enthusiastic immediate responses to les…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:43 PM
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Pilled debate will always be political bc you can't argue about men vs women without involving feminist concepts and/vs their deterrents like MRA types or subgroups in the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:38 PM
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On the street, 1 out of 5 women are attractive enough that if we were to date, she would pass the threshold. Out of this group, the amount I would cold approach to ask out with the intention of eventually getting into a relationship is much less, like 5%. So it sounds about right, and in line. I'd have to go back to look up the details of that study, but also another memorable takeaway was that men were much more likely to message the top third of women and women actually were more likely to mes…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:19 AM
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I have my doubts that you are socially well adjusted or get out a lot. That's just me honestly admitting my assumptions. The 80/20 study is another can of worms. One thing that I found out about it a while back was the 80% of men women deemed "unattractive" were actually women on OLD unwilling to "poke" these men. Which completely changes things. I can see how women wouldn't do such a proactive suggestive online gesture unless a guy was 100% completely their type and they were sure. In addition …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:04 AM
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I told you I know a significant number. I also saw it growing up. The extroverted high energy guys always had girls/women around them. And none of this means looks don't matter, or that goodlooking men don't have an inherent advantage. I'm also not saying this is really a breath of fresh air for blackpillers. Honestly bad social skills are a terrible curse and it's more difficult to improve those than to improve looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 08:07 AM
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Yeah there's a diff between that janitor and just a normal well-adjusted dude. Nobody is saying looks don't matter at all. That's always the card you guys play. Whenever he's not goodlooking it's "oh he must be rich" "he's a betabuxx." "she's cucking him with chad" Very convenient, and even you admit it's an assumption. Most of these women I know are young and attractive also, so they aren't in the post-wall settling stage, but if your rebuttal is basically "I don't believe you". Well, that's PP…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:59 AM
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Looks is key if that's all you have to rely on and you have bad social skills and are introverted to a fault, which is probably why so many men these days are blackpill. I know a significant amount of dudes who are average looking who just command attention and project enthusiasm and energy whenever they enter a room. They are always with the hottest women, simply because they pursue them and the women are receptive. Another key trait is they are able to make women feel comfortable with being wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 11:28 PM
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There aren't many men who are so ugly that being fit and healthy won't help. Most men will see significantly better dating results if they get in shape. If anything the men with subpar or average faces will see more improvement than men with good faces bc the latter were doing fine already. If you're an in-shape guy - like actually in shape, not the soft half-assed body you see everywhere in gyms - and you still struggle it's 100% your personality or social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:55 PM
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I've heard good things about Wisconsin as well but the goal is really to just move to a rural area where the people aren't too stupid or racist. So honestly probably just a small town around here but the midwest is appealing also. Montana and Utah too but I'm not sure they pass the racist/stupid test.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:33 PM
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Hrrrrmmmm women falling in love with monsters minotaurs vampires etc is empowering bc men are trash "how bad are men now that women will fuck non-humans??" but somehow my boi's furry tentacle hentai collection is "depraved" and "problematic"? Okay sons
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:26 PM
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wtf "hey chat if the opposite sex experiencing pleasure turns me on am I trans?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 08:03 AM
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At the local hipster joint with industrial decor enjoying burgers they didn't grill, with fried eggs from chickens they did jackshit to raise, relaxing on tables and chairs they didn't build.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:16 AM
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Americans get such a bad rap. Just in reference to some random comment the other day saying depraved americans ruined tiktok, like not really. Every time I see some terrible basement dweller incel/blackpill comment on insta, provided it's actually not a blank profile it's some major autist from a 3rd world country. Some dude with mismatched clothes and a weird stare in an area you can tell isn't the best, with a social circle at the bottom of the pile if he even has one. Before when I read shit …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 01:48 AM
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Market decides value is a non-argument. Many factors determine what people value in a culture, time/era, or place, but this doesn't counter any argument about objective value or broader implications, which is what these discussions are about. That's why different men do better in different markets in different areas of the world or even just different cities in the same state or country.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:56 PM
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That's how it is. Women who just want attention but aren't hoes dress that way, but so do actual hoes. This is borderline equivocal fallacy but I wouldn't blame a woman for assuming bad things about a guy with a swastika tattoo or proudboys shirt. E.g. 'what if he's just an edgelord' yea sure but why take the risk. Also, plenty of women assess men wearing gamer type shirts, or other innocuous choices of dress, as losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:52 PM
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But a lot of women who choose to wear skimpy clothes are doing it for attention and/or are promiscuous, and it makes sense. They may be looking for attention from men they are attracted to only, they can't blame other men for noticing, they don't deserve to be harassed or touched if they show that the attention is unwanted. All of that is and can be true at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:44 PM
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It starts from the reaction that no matter what a woman is wearing she doesn't deserve to be harassed or assaulted. Which is true. But since it's such a volatile emotionally-charged issue a lot of people ride the snowball and cultivate the sentiment that furthermore whatever she wears isn't indicative of anything [negative] about her personality. It's irony since clothing and style as ways for people to express who they are is basically a universally accepted truth. Not to mention, women judge a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:40 PM
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Fancy cars absolutely make a difference. As with any other quality, you just don't need one to attract women if you can attract them with something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:10 PM
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When did I ever say they were at the bottom. It's obvious gay men have lower standards at least when it comes to just sex or plain flirting, no matter how hot (or not) they are. When I say fatter I mean like everyone lol. The standard has gone down universally as obesity is normalized and chubby people are seen as the norm. If you go to some areas they're even seen as "too skinny".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:07 PM
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nothing, just piggybacking on a comment about n-count to make a tangent
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:30 PM
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There are guys deep in the manosphere (and probably autistic) who unironically think the average woman in college nowadays is racking up close to 100 bodycount from runaway hypergamy and depravity. When I objected I got told I was coping and probably getting cucked xD I mean our society is depraved, but that's beside the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:21 AM
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if my experience is limited in an area i'll acknowledge it or stay away from that subject matter i'll also concede when the other person has a good point many don't do either of those while arguing also it's less likely that these people are outright stupid and moreso that they may be decently versed in some things but won't back down and think their knowledge translates to other areas out of ego or arrogance
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:13 AM
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why did I read this like in the billie eilish song
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:57 AM
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So many tards on reddit living in their own bubble talking like they don't. Even if you're sheltered or don't get out much at the very least you should be aware of it and take that into consideration when debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:54 AM
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Maybe 10-15 years ago there was more of a separation between ecosystems. How old are your gay friends? Everyone uses OLD (or Grindr if you're gay among other things) now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:28 AM
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federal/neoclassical/antebellum architecture Yeah that's what it is, I didn't know what it was called.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:56 AM
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I'm not sure you know many gay men. I don't think any twinks or fat bearded men would struggle in the gay community(s) given minimal effort. Society has also gotten fatter, so chubby is considered normal depending on the region so fat people might be even considered husky or desirable lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:46 AM
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Why do conservative areas and towns tend to have so much dark red/crimson/maroon in their architecture? Like not only bricks but wood, clay, everything else. That church building with the steeple shape and pillars resembles the courthouse, bank, town center, etc and it's not just the south, I see it in just many rural right-leaning municipalities in other parts of the US as well, even if it's a blue state. Idk maybe I'm noticing something that's not really there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:58 AM
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Bc their concern for feminism is fake. They dgaf how it should be or whatever they're just looking for inconsistencies in the arguments of feminists and the ideology to bring up. Concern-trolling and variations thereof are just common shitty debate tactics. On the other end, many women also don't care about feminism really, they'll just fall in line with whatever serves them, cherry-picking things, virtue signaling and voicing support when it's convenient and helpful to their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:36 PM
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Because I've seen it many times. Why don't you believe this? If you haven't seen an outgoing otherwise average-looking guy surrounded by women you haven't been out much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:31 PM
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You using OLD examples to show there are women out there who don't care as long as the guy looks good doesn't disprove my point that you can attract [many] women with persona alone as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:38 AM
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It's actually much more difficult to improve one's social skills than to improve one's looks for the average man. Some men are awkward and terrible socially for a reason. It's not like flipping a switch esp if the reason is something like a clinical developmental disorder like autism. Improving one's looks can be done on one's own, at one's own speed and comfort in anonymity or isolation. Genuinely ugly people are rare and anyone committed can see great improvement. The results will almost alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:28 AM
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Re: "incel/femcel and bp isn't allowed on PPD" as per a post there, incels, femcels and blackpillers in the main threads are among the most prominent and outspoken people here. They won't outwardly identify as such bc of the rules but it's clear what they are from all the seething, misery and delusion. They radiate resentment and bitterness with every comment they make.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:20 AM
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Or on an even broader scale it's much easier in large modern metropolises and society to be a self-sufficient accountability-foregoing asshole and not care and enjoy social status bc of it. Back in more primitive times everyone relied on each other and the smallish tribe they were apart of. If people didn't like you you were cut off, you couldn't adequately get food, water, company, interaction, shelter or necessities. Now you can just ghost entire circles and find countless others in addition t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:43 AM
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It's the same for the other side in the sense that women don't feel appreciated for who they are vs just being objectified or as a trophy for their body or sexual magnetism. "doubt" The fact that a goodlooking man with a trash vibe will be severely limited in his dating prowess vs the same man with great social skills and vibe proves I'm right. Also there are normal looking guys who do well with women bc of same positive persona traits. It's not a zero sum equation ultimately so it's not like it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:38 AM
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Alternative nutrition advice in the west often push low-carb red meat etc I think a lot of it comes from conservative-backed sources as well which speak in favor of farmers and industries important to rural areas vs big corporate non-meat interests. I'd say take it with a grain of salt; the truth is yeah most americans should probably moderate their simple carb intake but I wouldn't trust all the peripheral crazy talk about how sugar is literally poison, keto prevents all types of diseases, huma…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:42 AM
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No I'm not sure. But if it's just 3 miles I don't think running 6-minute miles is super hard with training but I've never actually ran an only 5k race and I guess the time would be closer to 18:00. I was definitely surprised by my 35 minute time with my 10k. Come to think of it it was probably over 35 but not much more but I forget. I do/did run regularly for years but I was never serious about making great time - that's what I mean by not trained I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:01 AM
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It's bc women are valued quickly for sex and appearance by men while at the same time these standards are low so this validation is of little value to women. So in projection they don't think being valued for one's body is worth anything. In many circumstances in a woman's past experience, being noticed for one's looks is a nothingburger or awkward as the norm and life-threatening at worst. Men who struggle in dating think the opposite and that being valued for one's personality or achievements …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:16 AM
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I'm not a trained runner but I did 10k in like 35 min so like 15 or so assuming mile time would be better with less total miles. Must've been the adrenaline bc my 10k time in the actual race was way better than what I did before or I was under-measuring my distance during practice runs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:08 AM
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I'm just talking in general from what I've noticed. No hate tbh, i'm of Scando and East Asian stock. A lot of them just look very plain to me but Irish women have that special charm or pleasantness in their face I can't describe it. Also all the Indian guys I know glaze light-skinned celebs that just look weird and the ones they call mid or normal are the stunners for me. Preferences can change too, I used to like asian women more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:22 PM
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More like obsessed with having a steady stream of future taxpayers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:51 PM
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OP can be abridged and modified to "Women confuse assholes with confident men." There's "Women have intuition" "Women can smell misogyny from a mile away, incels" but then "He manipulated me" and "Women don't always know the guy is an asshole off the bat bc he was deceptive and knew how to hide it [sometimes for years!]" when asked to take accountability for a history of bad selection choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:33 PM
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This sub was never great bc it's the same issues being featured day after day but nobody debates to learn or accomplish anything, everyone talks past each other just to sound right. Some of the mods themselves have admitted that the purpose of this place isn't to find solutions but to argue for the sake of arguing. The fact that it's gone downhill from meh isn't the biggest loss. It'll just continue to remain in its sub-mediocre state bc it's a familiar place to waste time. Honestly just one of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:14 PM
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Irish and Indian women are the hottest and most slept on. Scandinavian and East Asian women are so extremely overrated and for Indian women I don't mean the type they like but the everyday ones you see in villages. I think the UK/anglo look has been the norm for so long it's been trendy and easy pickings to make fun of British people but honestly nothing beats a high class UK aesthetic. Irish and British are almost the same people basically but somehow the Irish (and Scottish probably) just look…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:12 PM
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A lot of Karens used to get simped on and are angry they are no longer simped on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 07:26 AM
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Are you referring to the young men IRL on average or the young men on this gender debate sub? I'm going to assume places like this are where someone in your demographic is primarily getting your idea of how young men are talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:19 AM
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If there were clips of the trial that supported and reinforced their narrative you can trust the femcels in places like twox and fauxmoi would have made them go viral.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:04 AM
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well hey i guess you found one lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:38 AM
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yea i agree you should change your OP to "if you're a mentally ill POS or a femcel who posts in fauxmoi and believe in metoo" bc that's not what metoo officially wanted and not the case with most who follow it. when you asked for consistency i assumed the premise of a pragmatic logical person
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:33 AM
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Metoo didn't say officially you should believe women no matter how absurdly obvious it was that they were lying with tons of evidence to back it up, which is the case here AFAIK. Although there are certainly plenty of metoo followers who would give all women the benefit of the doubt bc of gender wars no matter what if the tables were turned.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:23 AM
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I wouldn't say the guys women hook up with are always especially attractive, but they usually do have that extra energy or snap about them that ignites attraction for sure. What's more likely is the guy a previously promiscuous woman chooses to settle down with is by sheer probability not the most attractive guy she's ever been with - which isn't the same thing. My speculation is women who say they won't fuck a guy casually unless he's a 10 aren't the type to be into casual to begin with. Like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:10 AM
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I'm not sure what you're looking for. I made a comment about it a week ago and there are people both men and women calling him ugly nonstop, memes and high-profile media bytes keep coming in. I really have not seen the same happening in very publicized cases where the genders were reversed. Also ofc all the "I believed him until I saw his picture" remarks like ugly men won't ever get harassed, assaulted or raped. Which sounds familiar just not on the same foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:11 AM
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Saw an article earlier written by a guy from the LGBT community saying they are not to blame for toxic incel communities and the manosphere movement. It's aimed at blaming the incel men when in actuality it's the rest of society's own homophobia when critiquing incels. The idea that the only way men would be that obsessed with their appearance is if they're gay, or failure to understand why they seek looks as a way of ascension bc they have no other pathway to do so, homophobic falsehood and gas…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:50 AM
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^ knower of ball right here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:13 AM
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It's self-inflicted but just like the obesity epidemic, you account for personal responsibility but then see that it affects the majority of the population, which means there are strong systemic factors in play. Technically fruits and vegetables aren't expensive and gym memberships and home gyms are relatively cheap if you're serious about investing, it costs nothing and saves money to eat less, but we live in a culture that exposes us to content that encourages instant gratification, hedonism a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:00 AM
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If she thinks her tweets demonstrate authenticity and it's what people desperately need and want why did she delete the tweets
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:35 PM
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Idc what pill you identify as, your difficulty with considering he was possibly sexually successful bc of his social dominance and status is a characteristic of a bluepiller. This site is full of them. "He was awful, therefore he couldn't be successful." Again, you dislike him, so all sorts of reasons and excuses pop up in your head. Many terrible men do well with women and find success bc they are sociopathic and don't care or have the hangups and insecurities of normal people, that's just a fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:44 AM
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State politics is where the pragmatic feel their vote matters most and the consequences, policies etc coming from whomever is elected are more real and readily felt. Global and even national-level politics can feel much more detached. In America anyway, and I'm not sure if that's always the case anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:09 AM
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It's a classic blue-pilled blunder to somehow find it impossible - or too unpleasant - to believe that people they find morally despicable could ever be successful or winners. They refuse to entertain such notions to keep their internal framework of the world from collapsing. That's why reddit is full of armies of deluded lefties who genuinely thought there was no way Trump could win [again], or that Elon Musk would actually have trouble with women. Dominant successful people can be either shitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:42 AM
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It's laughable to think one group does it more than the other in these lawless anonymous spaces as if whataboutism isn't ubiquitous and rampant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:21 AM
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Those articles about false rape accusations toward men come to mind with the entire contents mainly about how it hurts real female victims rather than anything the men go through, and also ofc Hillary Clinton's "women have always been the primary victims of war."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:19 AM
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I'd say it's misleading because telling men to be nice, respectful, etc is by far one of the most if not the most common advice given to men in mainstream media. To the point where I wouldn't fault young impressionable men for coming away with the idea that it matters the most to women. Yet the advice is not meant to help men, but to reinforce progressive ideals and women's issues in a dating context. The issues are important, but then it should not be framed as dating advice. It's additional sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:49 AM
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I have not seen any men saying they deserve sex simply for being nice. It's more complaining about the mixed messaging from women and society which is a different can of worms. The dichotomy between what they are told to do and not do versus what actions and inactions are actually reinforced in the men women choose to date. I also don't see how men asking for how to have more success with women is problematic. You naturally have an aversion to struggling complaining men so you again assume the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:40 AM
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Do a lot of these "choose better" men reveal or hint at abuse being ok in their other comments? They may be whiny or annoying but I'm not seeing what you describe. It honestly feels like it's just something pulled out of thin air that's tempting to assert bc you already dislike them and are prone to assuming the worst about who they are. You guys really spend more time chastising these men instead of the men in the actual relationships doing the abuse under the defense of "Well they would do it …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:29 AM
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Most of the men saying "choose better" are sexless struggling virgin types, and what they observe is they aren't the ones abusing women but are the ones being talked down to for being toxic while the actual abusive men keep getting relationships. While it's not the best attitude to have, why can't people just see this reaction for what it is instead of hopping to "They would be abusive if they ever got into a relationship" bc it's convenient and feels good as they already dislike these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:23 AM
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This post reminds me of that 30-something dude who used to post here and talked down to incel-types because he married his high school sweetheart at like 18 and kept saying their dating issues were unfounded.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:27 AM
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It's still very much a niche type esp in the west. Just like I'm sure beefy muscle-types are a niche in Asia. Socialization plays a huge role but women are just going to like fit attractive men in general. He's not the conventional "ideal" but no rail-thin handsome e-boy with dyed black alt-hair is going to struggle finding admirers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:12 AM
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If you define bluepiller by just anyone who falls in line with mainstream thinking, abuse from women is usually condemned just like abuse from men. If you're talking about people who are specifically here or in gender-war spaces identifying as bluepillers, it's a different story because they come in hot with the intent to argue with redpillers or those who advocate for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:44 AM
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Asians have a different hierarchy, the guys at the top are pale twinks not beefy and bearded. The tan wide-faced are considered low class laborer types. This is why skinny awkward white guys do so well with asian women and they think the asian celebs we uplift in the west - usually sporting hunter eyes or square jaws - for their looks are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:38 AM
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Because...in this day and age there are people who's entire world and life is online and arguing online. It's from this that they derive their entire perception of the world and form their views. It's a trope for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:29 PM
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The context is mainly men encountering and arguing with these women online lol. Not dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:32 PM
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I mean yeah. Doesn't matter how good you look if you're an autistic sperg. Looks only get your foot in the door, you're going to fumble everything afterward except for the most shallow or depraved people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:28 PM
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You've brought it up before is all. I'll just take your word for whatever you said I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:19 PM
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This used to be more the case until looksmaxxing became popular. Looksmaxxing has become the domain for neurodivergent straight men who find it easiest or most appealing and logical to max out their stats in this category bc they either have zero chance or find it too hard to max out career or social status/situation. Which may or may not be their fault. A lot of this train of thought is often unconscious, their environment is as such that they truly believe looks are the only thing that matters…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:18 PM
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For someone who talks about how unbothered they are by all this PPD mess you sure seem to take this personally. They don't know your husband, they know nothing about him, it's just online shit talk. Out of all the things to not be sensitive about you somehow fixate on this one. Should probably be more honest too, if you heard a guy on here you had zero respect for keep bringing up a woman who decided to stay committed to him you'd make assumptions about her too, or assume he's lying or embellish…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:11 PM
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Democratic candidates are so fixated on looking like saints (emphasis on looking/appearing to be so) saying and doing all the right things they have zero edge or snap; the result is a persona so bland and inoffensive it can only be either invisible or repulsive. Even when Newsom was lobbing those mean tweets at Trump it came across as performative and robotic. Funny enough the comparison can run somewhat parallel to the subject matter here, the boring nice guy vs the exciting bad boy. The exciti…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:14 AM
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And yet even Vance somehow has more stage presence and aura than all potential democratic candidates including even Newsom - possibly combined tbh - which speaks volumes to the state of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:59 AM
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Both men and women in the upcoming generations are poorly socialized. It's not bc of patriarchy, it's bc of current trends and tech. Like I said, if it was bc of patriarchy we wouldn't see emerging problems of social isolation affecting both sexes occurring just now, they would've shown up hundreds if not thousands of years ago. If anything, according to your camp patriarchy encouraged men to act more invasive and creepy and ignore boundaries, certainly this would not cause men to withdraw and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:24 AM
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A favorite redditor exchange trope in gender debate is when women tell men that while men have a problem of quantity of options, women have to worry about quality. As if men don't have an even bigger quality issue, bc the lack of quantity makes the quality issue exponentially worse. As if "man it took me a thousand years to get a single match but omg what do you know, she's perfect~~"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:14 AM
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As far as the headlines go, loneliness is affecting many women as well. You just alternate between "patriarchy hurting women" and "patriarchy hurting men and women are happy and making many connections" whenever convenient. If patriarchy was the culprit these trends would not be new as whatever system(s) in place ruled primarily by select groups of powerful men have been documented for millennia. What's new is the technology I mentioned, increasing consumerism and poor socialization. At least ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:57 AM
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No, it's the ubiquity of the internet and easy access to junk food, games, grifting content, porn, and all other types of media. We live in a consumerist culture that promotes sedentary lifestyles, degeneracy and hedonism. I suppose you can always play the patriarchy card if you associate every single societal component with things greenlit by powerful men. Like "hey, it's a societal issue, therefore patriarchy."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:21 AM
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The patriarchal hazing component is absolutely unnecessary to bring up and not a factor at all for many men. "PaTrIaRcHy" is just a convenient thing to stick in there for those with a progressive narrative. Modern tech is such an omnipresent double-edged sword that both men and women easily fall into using things like drugs, gaming and social media as crutches. In addition to addiction social development is severely stunted. Life sucks for a lot of people, although for women dating probably isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:05 AM
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I mean for female victims there is plenty of "she's too ugly to be r@ped, harassed, abused, etc" from some men for sure, but there is a very large counter-voice that skewers and shuts this kind of talk down, justifiably. For male victims, not as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:03 AM
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/never-even-been-to-the-location-jp-morgan-executive-lorna-hajdini-responds-to-sex-harassment-claims-by-brown-boy-indian-chirayu-rana/articleshow/130672510.cms I guess this was the story of the day. Looks like evidence for now shows the accusations were false, and also insane that they'd be false and also so extensive. You would think people lying about it would keep it simple. But also the double standard like all the armies of netizens clowning him s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 06:04 AM
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<image> I dunno about "better" but men's routines are more efficient and streamlined for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:55 AM
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That's the original intended definition, but like many words in pilled spaces the meaning has just been diluted to suit anyone when convenient. E.g. any man with sexist or misogynistic opinions is often called an incel now, any woman who isn't entirely on board with hating men can be called a pick-me by other women and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 08:50 AM
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The sentiment from these men isn't that women don't have problems it's that women have it easier in dating. And if/when women complain - often directly about men themselves, it's from an entitled place or that they shouldn't be complaining bc they have it better/good. To them it's like someone with a plate full of food telling a starving person that having food doesn't solve everyone's problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:12 AM
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Yeah but that makes the male complaints OffTheRedSand was referring to legitimate then. Vs having a tall handsome bf and still complaining. Bc having fat women or single moms in their DMs is still zero options, according to women or these men's detractors as long as they are undesirable ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:04 AM
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Alright but the vastly prevailing sentiment among women is that undesirable options and sex is basically the same as no options and sex, as a response to when men complain about having no options and women having options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:40 AM
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I jaywalked a few times last week if that helps. Diagonally even. Also parked in a couple spaces for 3 hours instead of the allotted 2 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:50 AM
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he's the only (or one of very few) billionaire in her realm with that number of accolades and level of success she's not one to check for a bezos or zuckerberg type
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:52 AM
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then why hasn't she? again that's what I'm saying. She has all the means and the options and has chosen to stay and exercise none of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:52 AM
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Many left-leaning people have a limit where they disagree or think it's "too far" and the ones further left call them problematic or conservative. There's a reason the views of democrats from the late 20th century would be considered basically right-leaning in the present day. You see this with immigration issues, gay rights, now it's trans rights and some people say in the future it will be the rights of robots, no sarcasm. Assuming Rowling isn't being disingenuous, she believes her anti-trans …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:44 AM
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Nice try, Florida Dept of Tourism bot
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:22 PM
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Would you say there's a lot of truth to people in florida being especially weird and unhinged e.g. "florida man ________". Usually states have one stereotype about the people but Florida seems to have many. There's also the one about how it's where all the old people go to retire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:08 PM
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What's Florida actually like. Ofc you hear about the fat or methed-out degenerate trailer trash everywhere but then there's also the supposed attractive people in Miami who put L.A. 10s to shame. Obviously different groups of people but how much truth to it is in each for those who have lived there? I haven't traveled in that region much but I do remember Miami just being rife with gorgeous Latinas.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:01 PM
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that's the inevitable conclusion unless you let it continue to make you unhappy "Life is too short to dwell on things like Chad, betabuxx and hypergamy" - Anakin Skywalker, Clone Wars
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:47 PM
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i try to take it as a good sign, if you have the time to get worked up about gender war bs online maybe your life isn't that bad but i'm sure it could go the other way too, people out there heavily invested bc of all sorts of issues and reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:40 PM
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i can shitpost, it helps sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:33 PM
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If I recall correctly originally the RP placed the onus of self improvement and success on the men. Not so much anymore but then I wouldn't call it redpill anymore either as it's mostly channels filled with ragebait for clicks and circle-jerking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:33 PM
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I don't think I've seen that much type of content you refer to in a while geared for women. It seems to be more tradcon or tradwife promotion but more for manosphere men to circle-jerk to eg with those woman pick-me accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:19 PM
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Is my algorithm fucked why am I seeing so many "A feminine man will have you acting masculine and standoffish. An immature man will have you acting like a mother. You can only truly become who you were meant to be with a masculine man with all his shit together" etc etc talk about redirecting blame and taking zero responsibility Imagine it the other way lol "If you're acting like an indecisive spineless dweeb it's because she's being too bossy and assertive. If you're immature and unable to do a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:12 PM
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I don't understand. What man are you referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:07 PM
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fulfilled "The past will always hold appeal bc of the removal of fear" - some dude Looking back I can say on paper my life was "perfect" as a teenager but it sure never felt that way. I had so much angst and worry, I literally thought my world was coming to an end; I somehow woke up every single morning with these thoughts and decided to get out of bed anyway and I dunno how. Just emo kid things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:56 PM
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Agree to all of that. At the same time we still need and want validation. Ideally enough of it but not of the creepy gross dangerous kind. For many men and even a few women they are so starved of validation and affection even the creepy kind will suffice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:37 PM
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Most men want to feel some sort of validation of their attractiveness or worth, and many men don't get it or don't get nearly enough of it compared to women. This is just being human. Most women "got over" getting validated long ago bc it was received in such high amounts they probably forgot when they got tired of it or began to find it meaningless. If and after these men have received said desired validation in a sufficient amount, then yes any type of further objectification becomes annoying …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:29 PM
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touching grass has made me give much less fucks about gender wars it's not that i don't believe in what i'm saying it's more just the results and implications of arguing online don't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:11 PM
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'all men are low value' to that i say sure why not that's why RP is hated, because it tricks women into thinking maybe this man isn't trash even tho he probably is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:08 PM
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you said men i said everyone i'm fine with both
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:04 PM
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probably safer to assume so i automatically assume most humans are lv and that makes it easier to be pleasantly surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:02 PM
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People won't admit that a lot of RP works, but it's inherently repulsive bc it teaches men how to convey and fake high value sometimes at the expense of being a good person or morals. For instance, any woman posting that she finds a man who doesn't prioritize women attractive - "It's sexy when a man has his own life goals, has self-control, etc" - will always get cheers, from other women as well as men. But see a RPer tell men to act disinterested or flippant to build attraction, and people will…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:56 PM
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All I'm saying is it would be easy for Beyonce to find a guy that ticks all the boxes, eg not a cheater, goodlooking, etc. But she won't bc she knows she won't do better than Jay Z despite him being a cheater and not conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:42 PM
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I see you've branched out to more equal opportunity baiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:40 PM
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Maybe you misunderstood. Jay Z is the problematic cheater, at any point Beyonce could leave and find a goodlooking loyal guy with a great personality, some money and fame even, but she won't bc Jay Z is the type of guy RP is talking about that women want, he's at the top of his game with almost zero competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:31 PM
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That's the point. She could get any hot guy at any time but she hasn't cheated or strayed whereas he has cheated. It's a testament to the power of status and dating/marrying up, even though she is already high status herself and has plenty of money. She knows if she moves on the next guy is going to be a downgrade even if he's "better looking".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:30 PM
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that's the point she could've left at any point for a hot nice non-problematic guy but she didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:12 AM
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A better example is Beyonce and Jay Z. Beyonce can find a pretty-looking boytoy anytime she wants, but she won't bc she knows there is basically no upgrade to Jay Z in her sphere. Few to zero men with his level of status, clout and achievements. That's why she's stood by him despite him being a cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:33 AM
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One of the things I noticed about the lesbians I've seen who do like to dress up is it reminds me of the male styles from the early part of the 20th century. Like those hats and vests and tap dancing shoes and such. Maybe formal showbusiness-like with a flair or twist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:44 AM
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I get more of a sense that women who identify as lesbian almost feel a relief that they don't need to give a shit anymore; not that lesbians don't care about looks but more like they aren't as shallow about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:24 AM
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I live in a very left-leaning progressive region in CA with a lot of LGBT and I've met more women who identify as lesbian who secretly are still attracted to men (so maybe they are bi or very fluid) vs women who are actually only attracted to women. There's probably a lot of truth to what you are saying, with some women having a fear of being judged for either expressing or feeling attraction to men due to past trauma. I suppose I kind of get it too. I feel much more at ease complimenting a man'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:22 AM
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I wouldn't say it's a matter of subjectivity or gaze tbh as they literally seem to put in less effort e.g. less time trying to stay in shape, clothing and hairstyle chosen for efficiency and low maintenance. Maybe it's just the ones I see, but then again there are a lot here compared to the avg region in the US. Honestly not even trying to dump on them, maybe it's a good thing they care less about looks and focus on other things like compatibility and personality in their circles and communities…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:14 AM
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The conclusion I've come across seems to be that women do tend to prefer "more masculine" men during their period of peak fertility in the cycle but not as masculine as most men think
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:32 AM
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It seems pretty apparent to me that the fact that lesbians seem to put much less effort in how they look vs straight women seems to infer that women are less visual than men. Gay men and straight women are trying to attract men so they know they'll have to look good. Most lesbians I know dgaf and dress dumpy bc they know it's not what draws other women in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:30 AM
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A lotta times it's not personal it's just an introvert or someone in an introverted state not being ready or disliking someone trying to interact with them. I'm not a woman but I get it. Even if she's hot it feels awkward and burdensome.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:15 AM
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oh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:07 AM
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I would just assume it's the same % as other people or straight guys who want kids nowadays there are avenues for adoption or surrogacy such that biology shouldn't be a hindrance for those who really want it but maybe my area is more privileged in that aspect
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:04 AM
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Even as a straight dude with options all I know is wanting a family and kids is enough to want exclusivity. I understand wanting sex a lot but you'd think people would grow up after a bit. It's too bad I have trouble trusting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:00 AM
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Maybe objectively the LTR game is more difficult for gay men but it's balanced out by the relatively smaller pool and amt of competition in any one area but who knows ykwim
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:53 AM
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I've heard a few times that getting sex for gay men is ofc easy but locking down a relationship is harder and more competitive than for straight men. Is that actually true tho, I know more gay men in LTRs than straight men although overall it's not a huge difference. But point is I don't see many gay men struggling regardless of their looks or situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:42 AM
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Just gonna answer with a tangent. Factors like race also play a role in determining one's market value. Many wouldn't be okay with certain races valuing themselves higher just b/c the market says so bc racism still exists. It's like saying the market has spoken when there are problematic ideas still to be discussed and debated. No matter which way you look at it "but the market says so" is a lazy dismissive and convenient rebuttal. I'd think the same even if I agreed with the person on their gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:24 PM
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Why are you assuming there aren't any barriers now that are hurting men or affecting the market? There may not be anything as egregious as being forbidden to own property or open bank accounts, but the current climate does infer trends that explain why the "market" is the way it is right now, whether it be social media, political zeitgeist, social programs, OLD, and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:14 PM
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I mean yeah, that was the market back then. It's no longer the case, and rightfully so Point being people speak of the market being objective absolute authority so "there's nothing to debate here" but would turn around and talk about injustice if the market trends, often a direct result of sociopolitical climate, were incongruent with their circumstances and ideals in a heartbeat. E.g. the market being such b/c women were not allowed to own property. I guess if women were going to college solely…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:07 PM
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Ofc the "market is law" BS again. Back in the day when women couldn't own property many women had to resort to sacking up with fat old ugly abusive men just bc they owned a house or had some type of means, but nobody defends the market in that context. Or the educated women who see their prospects shrinking bc there are way more women than men in academia now; I'm guessing the career driven boss-girls who aren't stunners would be reluctant to accept the market has changed and their league has be…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 07:44 PM
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Hi Redsand, how's the rage bait been faring these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 11:16 PM
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I never said being nice and caring is a bad thing, nor did I say it's a big ask. It's just not an effective thing to focus and fixate on when dispensing dating advice to young clueless men. Their social skills and competence, awareness et al hold them back way more than their "lack of niceness" ever did. The amount of times these types of conversations end in this type of "what's wrong with being nice" strawman is hilarious I'm a woman, I have a much better grasp on what women find attractive th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:30 PM
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It's all important Sure, but most of the noise from modern mainstream spaces is all about telling men to be nice and catering to women's safety - which is very strategic, onesided advice. If this was at all helpful, men would not be confused or desperate enough to latch onto manosphere grifters. No it doesn't. None of those things alone are anything. I mean if you want to just say things that don't line up with reality, that's just par for the course here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:56 PM
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You think a guy who posts here about how much he struggles is going to come across a hot chick interested in him and be like "yea but she's not submissive enough and doesn't do all my chores"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:35 PM
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Given the absence of major red flags - and even then this won't stop many guys - most men absolutely will go for hot women if they thought they had a chance. Rather than "she needs to be submissive" it's more like "as long as she's not super controlling or psycho."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:32 PM
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But many men absolutely will go for a woman if being hot is her only trait. Can't be said the same way for women saying they want nice. It's really no secret how shallow men are though. The nice narrative goes beyond the context of women coming from bad or abusive experiences, it's part of a larger one of making sure men step in line with a modern progressive feminist-leaning direction. The priority is to keep women safe, not help men in dating. Keeping women safe is important, but then it shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:27 PM
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A lot of men think women value nice above all bc that's the trait they keep talking about the most, along with the mainstream. They're constantly told how nice caring respectful men who are good listeners are of utmost importance. You don't see many mouthpieces in blue-pilled spaces saying it's important for men to be charismatic, high status, tall or goodlooking bc it makes women seem shallow, yet at the same time all this talk of 'niceness' runs counter to what many men experience and observe …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:18 PM
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It's not so much bragging as it is schadenfreude like yeah fuck you I may be miserable but look what you did now everything is going to collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 03:29 PM
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Seems more like a headline geared toward young(er) manosphere men - millennials and even older gen z - circle-jerking about the decline?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 07:12 AM
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It's not like I said these dudes are completely hideous with zero redeeming physical qualities. Point still stands if you have an attractive persona the looks bar is not high. Tho honestly if you aren't born with some degree of this type of temperament it can be more difficult developing this stat vs looksmaxxing, so I'm not trying to make it sound like things are easier for men than they think either; it's just a different reality, conclusion, and implications.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:20 AM
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It can be faked and learned. But obviously not as easy as if you were born that way. Though if you're going to cite examples of low inhib compensating for flaws (which I completely agree with) you can't be using guys with good faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:51 AM
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Re: men being deluded that life is a Hollywood movie where Adam Sandler types get the women. It's actually true though, socially outgoing high-energy Adam Sandler types absolutely kill it with women IRL. There is no one with his humor and charisma - not talking about his status or fame - complaining about how women don't care about personality. His persona has a positive effect in the same vein as Pete Davidson et al. "But what if they were goodlooking?" Well then yeah, they would do even better…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:41 AM
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In actuality, people like Adam Sandler do actually do well with women. He doesn't look like a model but he's funny and charismatic with social clout acquired from said traits. I see it all the time IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:37 AM
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Another one told her to go shopping. Man that is bonkers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:40 AM
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they dismiss a lot of mine too when i complain about stomach issues or pain issues not saying it's the case with everyone else but for me it's stress and anxiety related so it's true my problems aren't considered problems if medicine doesn't have a cure so it's like either seek therapy or be fucked, assuming therapy even helps, but it'd be nice if they'd acknowledge that instead of just saying "there's nothing wrong with you"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:56 AM
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I've experienced it myself and met a lot of people who have. Tests and bloodwork that come back normal, symptoms of every kind under the sun for years and noticing improvement or disappearance of pain after therapy or CBT. I would wager psychosomatic explanations are a way more common explanation vs actual disease of biological origin bc stress and anxiety are ubiquitous and chronic in modern day life, though I would agree it's important that the patient is taken seriously from the start to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:51 AM
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Just staying off subs like this and talking to more people IRL has reduced my investment in any type of gender war, but sometimes it still feels like a lot of people are just parroting progressive buzzphrases and assertions like "yeah ofc doctors are still telling women to just lose weight". My experience with the nerves thing is that it's often true as a lot of people suffer from these types of unexplained symptoms and categorize themselves quickly and readily as chronically ill - though real c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:28 AM
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During the past few months of rampant grass-touching a lot of women told me it's actually a thing for doctors even in the modern day to just tell/suggest women to lose weight often as a solution to a variety of general complaints even if the woman is already thin or not overweight. Is this true? I'm talking like the past 20 years not the 1980s or 90s. A lot of doctors I know tend to be of the very progressive left-leaning and open-minded variety so maybe it's just my area rather than the era; it…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:54 AM
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I knew BP was mainstream and ruined when I overheard an uber-progressive pink-haired nonbinary person the other day explaining 'mogging' to their friends. "It's like when my face card is like better than yours" and they were like "ummmmm ok".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:39 AM
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