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Fortunately, there is always the chance that some people can snap out of that brainwashing. That should be especially easy for men growing up in environments that incorporate feminism and "equality" while simultaneously keeping men enslaved by a male gender role. That's straight up telling a man "yes, you are a second class human being".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 02:11 PM
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I'm a pessimist, or a "doomer" as Redditors would call it. I don't think sexism against men will get solved, but I also don't think the deteriorating state of the world will get solved. Humanity as a whole is facing severe threats like climate change and collapsing birth rates, and the way sexism affects men is neglected even in the ways it relates to those issues. Collapsing birth rates, for example: some people focus exclusively on the causes related to women's issues like the burden of matern…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 12:36 AM
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There's a comic book character called Plutonian who happens to do something horrible to Singapore. I think it would be immoral to consider that karmic if it happened in real life, but I'm sure some Singaporean males, out of anger, would disagree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 11:51 PM
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Honestly that's a good question. As a male I would have vanished from that misandrist putrid hell hole ASAP if I had been born there. Hell, I would just swim away if necessary.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 07:34 PM
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They (UN Women) could've easily just asked for "helping people and taking gendered issues into account" or at least something like "tackle misogyny so that women are not affected by it". It's very obvious why the "center" aspect is problematic and those comments are playing dumb about it. It's also funny that I see physical differences being used by these types of people as an argument for discrimination only when women are not the gender that would be discriminated against. I don't see them sho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 12:27 PM
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I really think this stuff is going to backfire one way or another, and hugely. We may not see men protesting or something but I think enough will at least be apathetic towards Western society, and that too can have disastrous consequences given that there are other societal problems on the horizon (like demographic collapse and climate change).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/26 04:01 PM
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I honestly ask myself: will we reach a point where a large enough number of men push back against blatant discrimination, or will it be passive disagreement at most? It worries me that a lot of men are OK with misandrist discrimination, for a variety of reasons (some are those kinds of feminists, some rationalize it under traditional chivalry, etc.).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/26 01:36 PM
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Maybe among men, but not in general in the Western world. If anything, I feel like it's gotten even more aggressive, at least when it comes to misandrist laws and policies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/26 01:15 PM
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Few countries I find more repugnant than Singapore. The insane dehumanization and discrimination against men they commit is a big reason.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 03:48 PM
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It's funny how discriminatory measures are justified only when it comes to women's disadvantages, whereas male disadvantages require no measures whatsoever. It's almost as if double standards are indeed awful, but it's not worth it to waste my time explaining that to you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 02:46 PM
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Germany can have things like women-only parking spaces and also pull stuff like this. To think I once respected that country...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/26 10:16 PM
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I do think this subreddit could use more diversity when it comes to topic discussion and depth. However, in an honest context I think it's unavoidable to end up writing more criticism about stuff related to feminism than, for example, to the "manosphere" (whatever that is), even if many would want us to believe that the latter is a massive urgent threat, because in reality feminism has actual institutional and political power, and "the manosphere" does not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/26 11:46 AM
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I don't understand why people think "prejudice + power" doesn't apply to men anyway. Legal/institutional discrimination against men (conscription, unequal punishments, etc.) IS power.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/26 09:51 PM
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The stubborn hegemonic consensus in the Western world is that women are oppressed and disadvantaged in every aspect of society, and the way I see it, no amount of evidence of women being better off in some aspects or men being worse off in some aspects is going to change that. It's not too hyperbolic to say that this behaves like a religion at this point. It's not about equality. Maybe it never was. And there is a huge hysteria, on Reddit but also elsewhere, about the fact that Gen Z men are not…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/26 03:53 PM
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Interesting reading. I'm glad they point out how disproportionate and irrational the attention given to "incels" is, and they give very good explanations, one particularly interesting is the (already known) bias of greater sensitivity and concern when it comes to women's safety, and how a specific threat against men wouldn't receive as much attention regardless of its severity. That's probably also the reason why people irrationally see misogyny everywhere at this point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/26 11:48 AM
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To be fair manspreading is a wider analogy for a problem that I find quite saddening, that girls get socialised into passiveness and meakness, in terms of walking and running their gate is more narrow than boys as it is seen as “feminine” no take up less space, to be more reserved and contained Good, but we could also have a similar discussion in regards to how, for example, men are socialized into putting aside their well being and taking action to assist others in public spaces, particularly w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/26 07:08 PM
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Pretty much. Western mainstream feminism has an incentive to frame everything as "patriarchy" or "misogyny" in order to keep milking disproportionate amounts of attention and benefits, which results in the weirdest stretches of victimhood claims, like the "manspreading" or claiming that streets or shared bikes are misogynistic (there could be differences in how streets or transport affect each gender, but approaching that in level-headed and non-neurotic language doesn't give victimhood power). …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/26 02:00 AM
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It's always funny (but also nasty) to see people simultaneously treat women as both strong and weak for the total convenience of women. I recently saw it in regards to the assault (obviously vile) against Ilhan Omar, with people praising that she was ready to beat up the aggressor but also mentioning that doing that specifically to a woman is cowardly and disgusting. And the latter is just pure irrational chivalry, nothing about that liquid attack is objectively worse when done to a woman; even …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/26 01:07 AM
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I'm reading there was an assault with liquid on Ilhan Omar. Worth noting that this is vile even if it's "just liquid" (and it could be a harmful one) and not a knife or a gun. I saw comments both admiring that she was going to defend herself and beat him, and claiming that doing this especially to a woman is disgusting. "Women are strong and capable and equal but they also have an aditional right to be spared from violence" seems like a weirdly common stance (and creepy in my opinion) among some…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/26 12:05 PM
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It's what I'm thinking as well. It looks as if they want Orwellian control of the narrative. After all, it's a system that seeks to protect only one gender, not a fair and gender-neutral one. The way it is described, it could easily be exploited to attack completely factual information (like "sexism against men and misandry are real", "there are laws that discriminate against men", "men in general are more often affected by lethal violence", for example), purely because it goes against the narra…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/25 11:50 AM
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Why else do you call Türkiye a dystopian shithole? Erdogan, the fragile democracy and political instability, threatened human rights, the economy, hostility towards LGBT people, to name a few other reasons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 02:25 PM
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Is there any Western or Western-adjacent country that is actually equal towards men and women, or at least as close to that as it can be? At this point most of the Western (and Western-adjacent) world seems filled with misandrist discrimination, from military conscription to retirement age differences, education, and all sorts of stuff. And they consider that "gender equality", even though it consists in caring for women but treating men however they want. War is peace, freedom is slavery. Right…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 12:30 PM
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The UK looks like it wants to deliberately become a dystopia (especially for males) so badly. They are coming up with all sorts of paranoid and/or restrictive nonsense from over-scrutinizing boys due to disproportionate hysteria around misogyny to wanting to massively spy people's activity in the name of safety. My list of hated countries keeps growing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 12:01 PM
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I thought conscription was the only legal misandry in Turkey but now I've been learning new stuff. More reasons to hate and avoid that dystopian shithole.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 11:48 AM
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I have already read comments in other subreddits claiming that this is actually misogynistic because it will be used to oppress women, even though this whole obsession with the definition of "woman" is mostly about wanting to gatekeep women-only benefits, as you mention. There is nothing Reddit cannot distort as an attack against women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 09:27 PM
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What I have seen more frequently than usual are posts and comments that see misogyny everywhere. It's already common in Reddit to be hysterical and hyperbolic about misogyny, calling everything misogyny, etc., but lately I have seen more of that than usual. Reddit is also hysterically obsessed with "incels" but I haven't noticed an increase of posts or comments about that lately.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/25 07:44 AM
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What's pointless about all those metaphors of M&Ms and snakes is that you could simply apply them to humans in general. There are dangerous men thus we have to be wary of men? Well, there are...dangerous humans, so? Just because dangerous women are less common doesn't mean the same logic doesn't apply. Just because lions are more likely to kill me than anacondas doesn't mean I would lower my guard around anacondas.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/25 01:01 AM
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If only the energy behind this neurotic misandry was redirected towards an actual emergency like climate change. Things like these have convinced me that this is a clown world.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/25 12:28 AM
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Surely we should first be asking 'Are young men actually being radicalised?' It's far from clear that they are - more than they have historically, anyway. I have yet to see any indication of it. I can believe many men being fed up with feminism but that's not the same as this huge wave of countless angry women-haters so many people are claiming. I haven't seen "Adolescence" or whatever its name is, so I cannot comment about it, but your comment highlights a current phenomenon worth talking about…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/25 11:37 PM
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Pop Culture Detective (Jonathan Mcintosh) uses "patriarchy" and "male privilege" (and other flawed concepts) for his understanding of gender issues. He is the kind of feminist this subreddit is strongly critical of. I do appreciate that he points out gender issues in his videos about masculinity, but I disagree with his explanations and interpretations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/25 12:49 PM
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Because "patriarchy" is a hackneyed, distorted concept that means nothing at this point. "Patriarchy" as in "society in which leadership and/or political power is predominantly given to males" is not a thing in the modern Western world. "Patriarchy" as in "system in which men conspire as a group to oppress women" has never been a thing in recorded history.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/25 01:12 AM
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It's quite ironic how wokeness, a movement that supposedly challenges gender roles and "toxic masculinity" or whatever, is just as useless as conservatives at seeing men as vulnerable. In practice there is no difference between "men are not vulnerable because they are strong" and "men are not vulnerable because they are privileged".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/24 09:06 PM
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I've seen people make comments about how the declining birth rates and social cohesion in the West is due to the gender inequality of low quality of life for Western women and men refusing to be better. I just whatever...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/24 03:31 PM
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To be honest it doesn't surprise me, Switzerland is a rich country per capita but it still discriminates against men through conscription, for example.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/24 01:28 PM
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Reading about this controversy in other subreddits I found fascinating how it was full of white-knighting (for a lack of a better term) from all sides. Conservatives and TERFs were outraged by what they perceived as an attack on a woman, according to them because a woman is being punched and hurt unfairly by a creepy male/misogynist or otherwise subjected to an environment of unfair violence against women, and with plenty of them showing their transphobia. Liberals and woke feminists were outrag…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/24 05:58 PM
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This was an exhibition that forbade a man from a women-only gallery. In a positive outcome, the court considered this an act of gender discrimination, and it seems like these people insist on discriminating against men. All as part of the “performance”, supposedly. "Ladies love the Lounge — a space away from men — and given what we have been through for the last several millennia, we need it. We deserve both equal rights and reparations, in the form of unequal rights, or chivalry — for at least …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/24 04:00 AM
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Norway and Sweden have female conscription, Finland's is male only. Denmark was going to implement female conscription too, I don't know if they went through with it. IIRC The Netherlands changed its law in 2020 to include women though their conscription remains inactive. There are a few other examples of female conscription, like Eritrea and North Korea.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/24 09:59 PM
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I'm not American so I'm not closely involved here, but it's fascinating to me how the topic of conscription for women causes so many brains to short circuit among both conservatives and liberals. For example here there are conservatives accusing this of being "woke", despite the fact that conscription for women is a topic wokes generally avoid/have zero interest in (in part because they are primarily interested in maximizing the well being of women and also because the topic is a latent threat t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/24 05:44 AM
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The reasons as to why the majority of violent crime perpetrators are male is a complicated topic, one that also enters into the debate of nature vs nurture, biology vs society. I don't have an answer (though I have my own theory). My opinion is that the topic requires more research, and only then we could formulate effective solutions. What I think is a useful starting point is to stop using the rhetoric of "by other men" as an answer when we talk about men as victims of violent crime. It lumps …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/24 01:20 AM
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if this is as safe as we have ever been we have a long way to go Sure, but if the concern about safety was equal, it would discuss the impact of violence on both women and men, how some kinds of violence affect women more and others affect men more. Instead the discourse is focused on the safety of only one gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/24 02:52 PM
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But doing statistical breakdowns on answers that weren’t based on statistics is a pointless endeavour It is just as pointless as the thought exercise that started this. And for 99.99% of them, more issues have been caused by men than bears, so I don’t even know why their answers are sparking outrage If you can't see why it's an absurd and stupid argument, then I don't think any explanation will do. Here's an attempt: for 99,9% of people, more issues have been caused by women than by bears, more …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/24 08:09 PM
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I'm not sure why you act like something being "a thought experiment" should shield it from criticism. Speech goes both ways. What misses the point entirely is you claiming that the criticism is merely a "complain to women about women's fears and not being based on statistics" when the actual important point is about the real issues real people actually face, about the actual material consequences people face and that people's attitudes have, not about the realm of people's feelings or perspectiv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/24 06:32 PM
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Lmao this is just a rebranded "bowl of M&Ms" nonsense from tumblr like 10 years ago. I'm not sure whether I heard about that M&Ms thing exactly at the time or a few years later, which further convinces me that this kind of hysteria only got louder and more insane. I think 10 years ago the last/current wave of feminism was only starting to spread and gain influence in public discourse, and then it exploded in late 2010s. It's not a coincidence that this recent stuff comes after that and making mo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/24 05:30 PM
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And that has never driven the huge majority of people to live alone in the wild rather that in human societies among humans. And Western people are engaging in this paranoid behavior now, when they have more protections than ever, rather than 20 or 10 years ago. So no, this is not driven by rational thought, it is the result of around a decade of misandrist propaganda and fearmongering.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/24 02:28 PM
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the greater point is the fear women live with, and having to risk their lives because of men. No, the greater point is when is someone's fear justified and when it's disproportionate, and whether someone's fear entitles them to engage in behavior that is plainly abusive against people who are not to blame for their fear nor the risk to their lives. instead of making this about men It's literally the people who started this nonsense the ones who made it about men. this should be a learning moment…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 03:27 AM
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The fact that this hysteria is happening now, in a time in which Western women are the safest they have ever been, and the fact that the vast majority of people engaging in this hysteria prefer to live in human society among men, rather than in the wild among bears, is to me evidence enough that this is simply mental illness on a societal level. It's not a coincidence that we are seeing this after years of the misandrist panic that has inhabited the public discourse since the middle of the 2010s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 02:45 AM
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I'm not surprised that it's like that in TwoX, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's like that in other subreddits of neurotic feminism like NotHowGirlsWork, WitchesVsPatriarchy, and others, places I never bother to look at. I prefer not to even look at the post that OP linked because I already know what I will encounter and I don't have the time or energy to make counterarguments against so much crap. This particular trend might go away but the terminally online misandry will not. The fact that s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 03:06 PM
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Unrelated to your post, OP: Good lord, I'm seeing this "man vs bear" crap spread across Reddit. As if the usual hysteria of mainstream Reddit regarding misogyny wasn’t annoying enough. Fortunately I've seen plenty of comments in some subreddits calling out the stupidity of this crap. Back on topic: arguments that highlight the inherent bigotry of the comparison fail because these people don't see men as actual humans in this context. It's a specific form of dehumanization that works well with mi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 04:40 AM
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I just saw a meme about this a few moments ago, in another subreddit. You are not going to convince the people defending this comparison with rational arguments because there is not a rational mindset behind it. This has gone beyond any reasonable discussion about protecting people from violence (a completely valid and desirable goal). You could quite literally tell them that women who really think this really should just go live in the forest and away from men, and they would then say that it's…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/24 06:41 AM
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Yes, the mention of children is justifiable. The mention of women simply appeals to (and reinforces) the idea of women's vulnerability and/or the greater passive value of female lives, though it's also claimed that it is simply that women are non-combatants (as if that wasn't the case for many men). I'm beyond tired of hearing that goddamn phrase, especially when it comes from supposed "gender equality supporters", but I rarely try to call it out because I'm just tired at this point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/24 03:55 PM
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Remember the case of the women's-only exhibit in an Australian museum? The r/ news subreddit is having a hard time acknowledging that, yes, sex-based discrimination is bad even if it was part of the performance or the intended message of the artists who started this clownish quarrel. I had the pleasure of encountering comments with your typical woke feminist-like hysteria and manipulative victimization, like this jewel: Have you heard them talk about them? Sometimes I'm not convinced most straig…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/24 07:49 AM
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The world could be a flawless utopia for women and these people would still act like everything is against women, that we are one step away from having the streets full of piles of corpses of women, that women cannot go outside without being murdered, that there is someone on every corner of the world waiting to kill women, that everything is misogyny, that every human on Earth hates women, or similar kinds of nonsense. You could show them examples of specific advantages women tend to have compa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/24 01:32 PM
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I like how well this describes modern mainstream narrative around gender and sexism. Pretty spot on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/24 01:14 AM
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It seems that Denmark is indeed going to extend military conscription to women. Not that I support conscription, but I respect the compromise with equality. Regardless, this is part of a worrisome pattern of Europe taking the risk of a large war very seriously right now. It wasn’t that kind of concerning when Sweden took the same measure in 2018, for example; back then the idea of war was absent from the collective in the West save for inconsequential threats from North Korea and not much else. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/24 01:32 PM
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The fact that that exact scenario is possible is one of the things that really made me apathetic towards mainstream feminism, at least in the Western world. Admittedly, in my country there is only a very mild form of (male-only) conscription that is largely ignored and not talked about because it's "sort of" easy to become exempt from it and it "sort of" doesn't have big consequences for avoiding (I personally was never conscripted). It is still a blatant inequality, I honestly wonder whether al…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/24 11:40 PM
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The intersection between racism/xenophobia and misandry is something wokes are fantastic at ignoring in spite of their supposed love for intersectionality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/24 06:55 PM
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Except those feminists that want that "reversal of gender roles" are only thinking about false and fictitious gender roles manipulated for their convenience. You don't see those feminists advocating for women taking the military responsibilities of men or the sole role of provider. Mainstream feminists simply want for women the same benefits as men, not a reversal of the traditional roles, or even an equal distribution of the burdens.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/24 06:53 PM
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I'd have to watch more. Thanks for the links. The way I understand it, the HCQ describes gender roles and sexuality in society as a set of social rules that restrict the sexes and the way they live but under which both men and women can and do exert influence guided (as human beings) by their interests and needs (rather than being completely helpless/oppressed puppets, as you point out) without the oversimplification of "patriarchy" (or "matriarchy"). That's definitely a diagnosis of society I w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/24 01:35 AM
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I'd have to watch more of Alice Cappelle to write an opinion, but from the very few videos I know of her, her view of gender issues puts me off. She seemed like the kind of feminist with a "male privilege, only women suffer sexism" view; we have too much of that already. I'll be happy if proven wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/24 04:34 PM
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As others have mentioned, there is no need to make these protections gender-specific other than to reduce resources by excluding victims outside of the definition. Those Finnish, Latvian, Austrian (among others) males better fulfill their military duties though (/s). We are looking at conditions that incentivize the flow of men towards right-wing reactionary movements and instead of any drop of self-reflection the response of the clowns behind this is to shut down empathy, double down on their p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 03:50 AM
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A few days ago I watched the Barbie movie. It was pretty much the kind of superficial and delusional take on gender issues that I was expecting after hearing people's comments, on top of being a pretty OK comedy. The fact that it made swaths of people believe that it has some kind of deep accurate social critique is probably the only intelligent thing about it. I have to say, I am kind of enjoying the recent "snub" controversy around the movie. It is exactly the kind of mundane online outrage th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/24 01:56 PM
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The videos of men being kidnapped from the street have made me apathetic to whatever happens to the Ukrainian government. The abuse against Ukrainian men due to Russia's actions but also due to their own government's is morally unforgivable. If this entire situation cannot make a stubborn person realize that discrimination against men can exist (and in lethal forms), I don't think anything can. Ukraine is a futureless country. Whether they defeat Russia or not, I think the humanitarian disaster …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/23 09:45 PM
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and the whole "women and children" narrative where men are always ignored and excluded Related to this, from what I have been reading about the recent Israel-Hamas negociations apparently women hostages/prisoners are been prioritized for release (children too, but at least that’s an understandable case). I very often see people using "misogyny" to refer to things far less dramatic than being treated as a more expendable life, meanwhile misandry, like you said, is treated as minor or non-destruct…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/23 04:45 AM
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I read so many "women and children" comments on WorldNews in the first days of this recent Israel-Hamas war that I could have made a compilation (they are probably still there in those posts). It's one of those things that always angers me when I see it. The funny thing is that those same people would likely criticize (rightfully so) countries like Saudi Arabia for treating women like children. And aside from that, for a while I've been wondering what is the overlap between people who use the "w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/23 01:13 AM
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Denmark too (though they recently proposed extending it to women). It's why I have more respect for Sweden and Norway, even though I oppose conscription from a moral perspective. (I'm not from a Nordic country, just to clarify).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/23 03:29 AM
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Oddly enough, in the last days I have seen many popular comments in WorldNews calling out the treatment of Ukrainian men, such as in posts about Zelenskyy tackling the fact that men have been avoiding conscription through bribes, and now in a post about a recruitment campaign telling citizens (men, for sure) to “overcome their fear”. Some comments even explicitly point out that those fighting women are not being subjected to that conscription, and as such it has nothing to do with the fact that …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/23 05:05 PM
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This is actually one of the core difficulties of male advocacy in my opinion, when people (like the case of this text you mention) center the concept of sexism entirely around women, and assume that it originates exclusively around women (like assuming that ALL stereotypes about women are due to seeing them as weaker) and attempt to explain it and classify it solely based on the effects it has on them. Something that in itself is sexist. The very idea that sexism is "benevolent" when it benefits…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/23 03:54 AM
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I'm of the opinion that this is simply a more modern way to impose chivalric expectations on men, without admitting or realizing so. The justification varies, some claim that men should do the policing because they are "privileged" and should use that privilege in favour of women, or because men respect other men more than they do women. Of course, it's perfectly possible to have a situation in which a particular man punches or beats up another man for intervening, which he wouldn't do if confro…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/23 02:40 PM
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Perfect. My addition, though it is a phrase rather than a term: "X atrocity was committed against people, including women and children" = "X atrocity was committed against people, including children". I swear, this one refuses to die. Even many people who adhere to "gender equality" insist on using it without seeing anything problematic about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/23 05:27 AM
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I haven't seen the movie, so I cannot formulate an opinion, but I have been hearing this from different people, that it's a movie about "Patriarchy" and a superficial feminist perspective of it. Obviously that doesn't enthuse me in the slightest. For better or worse, movies can spread messages to and persuade countless people, and it doesn't enthuse me to see cartoonish or flawed narratives around gender being spread. Regardless, I'll wait to see the movie on TV before commenting on it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/23 03:35 AM
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I'm always amused when I read the fantasies of some fanatical radfems that are variations of "thanks to technology, males will become obsolete and Earth can become a paradise; automation/robots/whatever will replace hard labour, and men, who commit almost all crimes, will be disposed of, and the pure, morally superior women will then guide society to utopia". Somehow, the necessary scientific and technological development would not be impaired by the removal of at least half the people who contr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/23 11:51 PM
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I just want to know what gives the other members here short term and long term hope? In my case, honestly, nothing. It would take me a while to fully describe my thoughts, but essentially, not only do I think things won't improve regarding gender issues (true fairness and equality for both men and women), I have the feeling this is also one aspect of an increasing societal deterioration. As a world, as a species, as societies, we are facing and will face existential threats (climate change alone…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/23 11:29 PM
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Same. Though I understand the situation, I really hope the subreddit doesn't disappear. Regardless of any flaws, I consider this place almost an oasis in the desert when it comes to online discussion of gender issues. Discovering it made me realize that I wasn’t alone in being a leftist that disagreed with the mainstream narrative around gender issues. I think this is too valuable a space.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/23 02:17 AM
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I remember reading that as well. And right now, one of the top posts at r/worldnews is that over 60,000 women are defending Ukraine. As if that is going to hide, nullify or whitewash the heinous sexist conscription going on there...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/23 03:22 AM
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I just read a Youtube publication of TRT World about remembering the Prijedor massacre, it included this text: Among the 3,176 civilians killed in Prijedor, 102 were children and 258 women. A weird way of saying that most of the adult victims were male, I guess.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/23 11:25 PM
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France's fertility rate is still below replacement level. And even countries with big parental benefits like Denmark, Finland and Sweden are not managing to raise their rate. In fact, the countries that are having the most children are in Africa. Economic factors certainly contribute, but to me there seems to be a strong cultural factor (which of course doesn't only include the gender wars).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/23 05:36 PM
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I've decided to stop visiting large common subreddits. The hysterical common discourse about gender is everywhere and I'm fed up with it. I'm often encountering posts on "X" subreddit about "Z" topic devolving into comments about how horrible everything is for women, how men are ruining things, how society is treating women like subhuman vermins, how problematic men are, as well as misleading comments about the past. I sometimes think about modern Western societies and their declining fertility …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/23 07:02 PM
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I just saw a post on the recommended, a screenshot showing a comment about men being able to wear the same thing many times without being judged as an example of "male privilege", and then a reply dismissing it because "it is something women do to each other". The hilarious part came when I saw the comments, and some of them defended the use of "male privilege" because the disadvantage exists regardless of the gender of the perpetrator. It was truly surreal to read that because the "it's done by…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/23 12:06 AM
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everyone fights Not what is happening, unless you ignore the large number of refugees (not that I blame them either). but a lot of women are fighting, too. It's like people deliberately argue in bad faith. Again, the fact that there are women fighting does not negate the sexism against men. The fact is that one gender is burdened with a duty the other is not, which is an inequality in the strict, blatant sense of the word. What's amusing is that these bad faith "yes, but a lot of women..." gymna…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 06:59 PM
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The gymnastics some people engage in to avoid acknowledging sexism against men are quite incredible. There are Women fighters in Ukraine since 2014. Women can fight, Men must. Ukrainian Women have Ukrainian babies, which will be needed to replace the dead. It’s a matter of national survival. This is a comment in response to someone asking whether men being conscripted in Ukraine is sexism. There are Women fighters in Ukraine since 2014. Irrelevant in regards to the sexism. Women can fight, Men m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/23 02:17 AM
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Great post. To summarize my objection to the term, I see two main issues with it. One is that the term is an oversimplification of society's idea of masculinity and its expectations of men. It pathologizes traits and attitudes that, although associated with masculinity, are negative when used with harmful effect not because of their relation to masculinity...but because they are being used with harmful effect. Also, the problem of referring to specific "masculine traits" as toxic is that those t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/22 02:01 PM
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Knowing Better is one of the most pretentious Youtube channels I've ever encountered. He has relied on misinterpretations and innacuracies to try and be some kind of expert in a wide range of topics. That video is particularly irritating with him making vague baseless claims ("women want those dangerous jobs") and hammering ideologized concepts ("it's because of male privilege") as arguments. I would like to use an example of a comment I encountered yesterday on a different subreddit (I won't li…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/22 05:48 PM
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I really liked this. It angers me whenever I see dishonest male-focused advertising parroting recycled things like "you don't have to be strong", "this isn't weakness", etc. while doing nothing to challenge things like military conscription (literally something born to exploit male strength and aggression) or violent crimes that disproportionally affect men (tackling this seems to raise little to no political interest, I guess men are just expected to protect themselves, very traditional...). Ed…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 09:43 PM
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This is simply another example of wokeism's own version of chivalry. "It's up to men to protect women because it's their duty". This could fit perfectly well in a 19th century environment. It's literally proof that they don't care about freeing men of their gender role. If anything, they want to exploit it. You are nobody's knight. It's not your obligation to fullfil the "male role of protector". Nevermind the guilt-tripping. Any man who isn't making death threats is obviously not making death t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/22 02:51 AM
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'toxic masculinity' is all perfectly fine, and actually it's men's fault for not understanding all the deep nuance that they say the term has. Particularly when some people defend it by saying "it simply refers to the harmful expectations placed on men". But then the harmful expectations placed on women are...just regular misogyny? To me, "toxic masculinity" is usually used simply as a way to avoid using the word "misandry", or avoid acknowledging misandrist attitudes towards men. The concept in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/22 06:21 PM
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One popular feminist slogan is that "feminism is the radical notion that women are human beings" It may sound absurd, but whenever I've read that slogan, I've had the question of what exactly is feminism's definition of "being a human being". Because, in my opinion, the way women and men are treated doesn't necessarily relate to being/not being treated like "human beings".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/22 04:35 PM
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Wokeism doesn't claim that white males have easy lives, only that they have easier lives (that is, they would be worse off if they were non-white or non-male). I will refer specifically to the gender aspect because I do think the aspects of ethnicity and sexuality are different (regardless, I still oppose the identity worldview of wokeism). Needless to say, the economic factor is above any of the others regarding inequality and oppression. The assumption is that the male gender is in itself a pr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/22 06:33 PM
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Am I the only one who constantly sees this regarding refugee crisis? Yesterday I read a post on r/worldnews about immigration and refugees (it was about Europe being accused of double standards), and this topic of male violence appeared. It was frustrating to see how quickly people resorted to misandry. Quite a few comments essentially implying how women (apart from children) are inherently more acceptable as refugees whereas young males are not, either because they can always be potentially vio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/22 12:56 AM
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Interesting points. Men are indeed expected to handle male antagonism across different contexts, but men antagonizing women is comparatively unacceptable; the way he exemplifies how that applies in public discourse is interesting. It can be compared with woke rethorics such as "men must call out other men to protect women because men only respect/hear other men", both a reinforcement of men's role as handlers of male violence and an assumption that the perception of women's vulnerability and har…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/22 12:09 AM
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This reminds me of how in my country they recently suggested the idea of having female-only subway wagons (it already exists in some other countries). "Think of women" may be the new "think of the children" (in fact, it's arguably not new, there's a reason "women and children" is a thing). I sometimes wonder whether at this point we will truly end up with separate female-only, male-only cities. I actually remember a comment on r/worldnews (the post was about the Taliban) saying how much women wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/22 05:27 AM
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Reading my comment again, it did come off as a bit pedantic and condescending, though honestly, I didn't perceive it that way when I wrote it, so I apologize for that. I have to say I chuckled at this: In some cases, I was even specific to avoid this (like saying women have the risk of getting pregnant, not that they’re bound to get pregnant), but to no avail. Yeah, thanks for letting me know that women can live without getting pregnant and telling me how normal this is these days. because I gen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/22 04:23 AM
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No one is bound to have diseases for being born a certain gender Well, in the literal sense, women are not bound to have "female inconvenciences" (pregnancy, PMS) either, since many women never get pregnant, and even for large estimates of women having some form of PMS, it's not 100% (and PMS includes very mild cases, hardly what would be considered an inconvenience). PMS is not a disease and neither is the risk of getting pregnant, though they are inconvenience that are almost certain to be pre…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/22 12:10 AM
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but that male biology, on average, tends to cause fewer inconveniences on a daily basis when compared to female biology. Well, it could be, but that's honestly hard to establish. I mean, to do that rigurously, you would have to examine the daily biological inconveniences of men and women, and analyze whether their sex has an influence on it. I personally don't really see that in my daily life, thinking for example in seeing my father suffer with some nasty prostate problems while my mother is no…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/22 04:22 PM
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male biology doesn’t bring a package of shortcomings itself That's inaccurate, actually. Men do have biological disadvantages, it just happens that they are not noticeable the way things like physical strength are. But for example, having weaker immune systems against infections or cancer is by no means a minor thing. In fact, it's possible it plays a role in men being more vulnerable to COVID-19. Sometimes I notice a tendency to think of men as simply bigger, stronger women and without the fema…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/22 03:27 PM
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I myself don't like the way mining is done in Chile either, as it is very much "extractivist" (part of the mentality that has perpetuated inequality in the country) and we would be probably better off using those resources for developing things and technology ourselves. But I'm also all for people not dying young to make others rich because of mining. Me too. Worth noting, Codelco (the largest and most important copper mining company here) is state-owned, and its profits go to the state, though …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/22 10:14 PM
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I have to say I'm not well versed on the mining sector (even though I should, since it's the most important one of the country), so I wouldn't be able to tell in detail what the working conditions of these women are. I should mention that, with the draft for a new constitution that is currently been written, the sector may experience some significant changes. What I can tell you is that although Chile is (or was) traditionally very conservative regarding gender roles, there has been significant …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/22 08:02 PM
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It's interesting. I have seen feminist opinions in two opposing positions regarding artificial wombs (different from male pregnancy). One that welcomes the idea of artificial wombs as it would free women from the burden of pregnancy and facilitate gender equality. The other one that fears that it will cause women to be devalued and viewed as unnecessary, as you mention, and therefore it would be a threat to women. Ultimately, I think reproduction is an important aspect regarding gender issues an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/22 10:48 PM
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The removal under that reason seems quite weird. Maybe the OP was genuinely toxic, or maybe he just came across as "whiny" (in the eyes of the moderators), which on r/MensLib could be something as simple as saying "there is often a double standard against men in these cases". The comments were quite interesting and I liked the discussion, surprised that some weren't deleted. Almost made me forget that that Subreddit is essentially a puppet state...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/22 03:33 PM
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I reject the idea that misandry doesn’t translate into violence against men. It’s very possible that there is a misandrist component in male-selective massacres, for example (such as the Srebrenica massacre), or John Molloy’s supposed order to spare women and children, but have no mercy on the men, during the Wonnerup massacre. Some would probably reject that, on the belief that men cannot be misandrist (as if women couldn’t be misogynistic). In fact, you could consider society’s condoning of ma…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/22 06:02 PM
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Zelenskyy probably doesn't care. And he is far from the only one. It's going to sound harsh, but this is part of the reason why I hate how glorified Ukraine has been during all of this. I despise Putin, and I hate what is happening to the Ukrainian people, but between its corruption and things like this, the pedestal the country has been given is a no-no for me. Regarding the need for men to fight...I think many people are not ready to deal with their hypocrisy of wanting to eliminate sexism/gen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/22 08:08 PM
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Thank you. I had heard of that amendment before, but I didn't know its name.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/22 01:08 AM
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I consider conscription, necessary or not, to be exploitation. When it involves combat, we are not talking about a casually unpleasant job or a minor inconvenience. It's about putting a person's well being and life in harm's way. The people who agree with it are not justified in wanting others to be subjected to it as well...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/22 03:20 PM
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