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Trench warfare seems fun? Different strokes I suppose. Maybe we will find out more when they simulate the draft this winter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 01:25 AM
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You can actually find studies on this that say the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 09:13 PM
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No, studies have shown married men are seen as more competent and dependable and therefore receive more promotions at work, etc and this is a well studied phenomenon. If he’s worried about divorce and not his professional reputation, perhaps a live in larpwife would be good enough for some, but there are a ton of social and professional benefits to marriage, for men. In many parts of the world, married men consistently receive more interview calls, higher salaries, and quicker promotions than si…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 09:11 PM
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Men benefit the most from being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:38 PM
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What history have you been reading?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:38 PM
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Extremely optimistic perspective given current events.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:58 PM
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Sometimes you just need a reminder of the deep machinations you’re dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:27 PM
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Your lives haven’t changed much yet Just wait until the republicans do another draft to send you to war, lots of you guys will have other things to concern yourself with besides women. Edit : a word
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:31 PM
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Never have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:24 PM
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Do you have a source for how frequently women are raping men and getting pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:19 PM
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It gives overweight, insecure men a fantasy about controlling a beautiful athletic woman, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:18 PM
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No you didn’t. You interjected your own insecurities. I don’t give a shit how attractive he is, it doesn’t mean he’s welcome to bother me, and you guys continue to ignore the hundreds of women here who tell you the same thing. Go outside, lots of average and below average men have families. If your insecurity was true, that wouldn’t be the case
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:15 AM
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Explains why this is not an attractive option anymore for majority of women, I suppose Edit : a word
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:59 PM
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When it’s constantly forced on you with no regard for your wants or needs or interests, it’s not fun. Even “fun” things can become unfun and actually harmful
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:35 AM
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Bravo, lost it at the banana jokes, and I was even sick of the bananas myself by the end of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:29 AM
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They need sex to love, but it also doesn’t mean anything to them and they don’t even have to be that attracted to the person they fuck. Some will pay for it, and almost all of them watch it for free online regularly. But it’s the most important thing in a relationship, of course. Kinda cheapens it and for some reason they can’t understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:22 AM
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The assessment is about risk and safety, not whether or not you will be a satisfying sexual partner. Women do not orgasm from penetrative sex as much as men do, period. One night stands are less likely to play with her clit and repeatedly hooking up is the only way to increase the likelihood of orgasm for women, statistically. I’ve posted these elsewhere in this thread. I have no idea why you guys are so averse to just looking up studies, there are consistently repeated statistics. It must be fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:14 AM
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Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:12 AM
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I think what people choose or want to do in the bedroom is their prerogative as long as it’s not causing malicious harm, but I agree it works out better if you do enjoy non-orgasm sexual experiences. Don’t think most women have had the luxury of that expectation to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:03 AM
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Women are not bad at orgasming. Here are some statistics; https://pleasurebetter.com/orgasm-statistics/ In a 2015 U.S. study, 67% of women reported they can orgasm through masturbation, compared with 28% through partnered sex 9 out of 10 women (about 90%) reported being able to orgasm at least occasionally during masturbation, according to a 2019 cross-sectional study Women in a relationship of 6+ months are more than 6 times as likely to orgasm during a sexual encounter than a woman with a firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:07 AM
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Now I am curious why it’s offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:48 AM
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They are if you want to fuck that woman 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:42 AM
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Women are not bad at orgasming. Here are some statistics; https://pleasurebetter.com/orgasm-statistics/ In a 2015 U.S. study, 67% of women reported they can orgasm through masturbation, compared with 28% through partnered sex 9 out of 10 women (about 90%) reported being able to orgasm at least occasionally during masturbation, according to a 2019 cross-sectional study Women in a relationship of 6+ months are more than 6 times as likely to orgasm during a sexual encounter than a woman with a firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:37 AM
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Women in general do not receive validation from sex. This seems to be mostly a male phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:34 AM
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Surely you’ve been outside, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:27 AM
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I’d argue that trying to impose outdated traditional gender roles is the equivalent of giving up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:27 AM
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Dating apps should be somewhat sufficient. Guys aren’t the ones prioritizing looks Women don’t use the dating apps, that’s majority men. Nearly all apps are like 75% men or more, so actually by your logic it’s the men who are prioritizing looks. (Cause they prioritize casual sex, duh) Reminder that every time a straight man has sex, a woman does too. The average could probably only be offset by gay men. It’s literally impossible for the “average” to be different between straight men and straight…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:15 AM
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See for yourself, it’s pretty abysmal for straight women only. And it’s not because they struggle to orgasm on their own, only with male partners is this the case. In a 2015 U.S. study, 67% of women reported they can orgasm through masturbation, compared with 28% through partnered sex 9 out of 10 women (about 90%) reported being able to orgasm at least occasionally during masturbation, according to a 2019 cross-sectional study https://gitnux.org/female-orgasm-statistics/ 81.6% of women don’t org…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:51 AM
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Except those women are not trying to fuck you or otherwise use your body. They mostly wish men would leave them alone. So, actually nothing like “nice guys”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:50 AM
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Do you have a source for this or is it “my feelings are facts” type of thing? Women on average have fewer sexual partners than men. Let me be first to inform you, penetrative sex is not very satisfying for most women. Long term relationships don’t even guarantee orgasm for women, it’s only 65% compared to men’s 96%. Men are and have always been far more promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:24 AM
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What a great analogy, because no matter how hungry you may be, there’s no societal expectation for someone to feed you, unfortunately. Same cannot be said for women who don’t want to fuck men apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:41 AM
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Pretty sure that’s within the context of long term relationships as well. Here it says only 18% orgasm from penetration alone, so casual sex encounters are far less satisfying. Women in a relationship of 6+ months are more than 6 times as likely to orgasm during a sexual encounter than a woman with a first-time hookup. [4] Women having sex with a hookup partner for the 3rd-5th time are 40% more likely to orgasm than from a first-time hookup. Hooking up 6 or more times doubles the likelihood of o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:38 AM
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The concern is that your point of view is not the one that is reportedly standard here. (Or what men claim here is acceptable to “most men”) Though I am positive your honesty is appreciated in that matter, I have no qualms about how people conduct themselves in their romantic relations as long as it’s forthright and without malice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 01:27 AM
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Is lying a part of haggling? As in lying about your transactional nature in order to take advantage of someone? When we are talking about pregnancy it becomes a dangerous thing for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 01:03 AM
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Clearly the transactional nature of relationships with men is a turnoff for women. Women have been finally granted bargaining rights in the context of relationships because of their economic freedom and have decided that the inequity that is inherent within the heterosexual pairings is no longer acceptable. If some men want to have transactional relationships, that’s their prerogative, but trying to convince women that they should haggle with you and your mindset is silly. It’s women’s prerogati…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:42 AM
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They are not. They are on the news talking about how great it would be if women didn’t vote and only had babies, which is a feature of patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 09:59 PM
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The main complaint men are making in the modern day is that women are hurting them by not choosing them, not lowering their standards, and not accepting unequal domestic partnerships. The abstinence is being framed as an active harm to men in the same way women are actively harmed by patriarchy. Women’s freedom of choice should inspire men to evolve out of the idea of dominating their wives and children, if women can choose to not accept them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 07:44 PM
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And one byproduct of that choice to abstain is less violence for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 07:18 PM
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The right to not date or marry or have babies is because of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:53 PM
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All high quality options? Only high quality options? Or would some low quality options like masculine men too? Seems unfalsifiable. “High quality” is a nonsense term by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:52 PM
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Disagree. Feminism is an equality movement regardless of what propaganda says. Most people want equality when asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:48 PM
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Feminists also understand that dismantling patriarchy takes a lot of work, and it’s not easy for women either. A lot of people are uneducated about feminism because of the negative propaganda. For example, every day something is posted here that is being attributed to “feminists” as a synonym for “women”. This post is one of them. There’s a lot of stigma and misinformation about what feminism is, but most people would agree they want equality when it’s explained to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:47 PM
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Some people are uneducated on the matter and fear the stigma associated with that label.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:44 PM
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I agree the discussion needs to be had, and space made for it. It’s devastating to society, and the impacts are unevenly distributed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:41 PM
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Societal conditioning, (some blame biology) and higher testosterone which has been linked to risky and dangerous behaviour. It’s also why younger men have more accidental deaths. Women are more risk averse in general, but that increases with age for both genders as testosterone goes down in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:37 PM
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Having the option to not be in relationships with men is feminism. Not having personal relationships with men reduces your risk of violence as a woman more than anything else. Most violence towards women comes from male partners, which is also why when* no fault divorce was made legal, domestic violence and women’s suicide rates dropped dramatically. Having the option to sustain yourself economically gives women the ability to have higher standards in dating yes, but also in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:34 PM
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Because our relationship goals are different, our bodies are different and the consequences of having sex are different. Men want easy access to as much sex as possible with as many women as he can. Women are never going to want the same thing in the modern world, pregnancy is too risky especially in a world without bodily autonomy for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:30 PM
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Dropping men is dropping the violence though. IPV from men is a huge threat to women, no men means less violence and less threat of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:31 PM
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Why does not being a feminist make you oppositional? It’s not a binary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:29 PM
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Because they want quantity of options, not quality. The opposite of what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:28 PM
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No silly, since they think we are talking about every individual man when we denounce patriarchy, they think every woman is automatically a feminist, inseparable. /s Unironically I agree with everything you said this list slaps, likely because of the fundamental misunderstanding of the terms (and equating men’s dating issues to the literal physical harm and death men cause to women)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:24 PM
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Yes, but if you have the means and the desire to be a parent, that would not be an obstacle. IVF is also extremely expensive and there is no guarantee it will work on the first cycle. Women who work full time are using surrogates, sperm donors and any other means at their disposal to become parents. Men are not doing this. Men don’t want children unless they come attached to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 11:42 PM
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Women never had the luxury of waiting for an attractive man to be compatible with. Women for so long didn’t really have many choices at all regarding who they married. Coverture laws didn’t end until the late 19th and 20th century. It’s a relatively new thing considering the long history of lack of personhood women experienced previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:49 AM
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And yet single men who want to be fathers don’t employ surrogates in the same way single women with wealth are doing in order to become a parent. There’s a growing number of working women who are using sperm donation to secure their future families. If money is not a factor, I think there should be more men becoming parents regardless of whether or not he’s in a relationship. We don’t see that in any significant numbers though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:50 PM
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You're going off vibes if your entire post is about some other post that you may have seen once. Can guarantee you that generally childfree women are not wringing their hands about a man who wants kids. There are far more men who are ambivalent about parenthood than women are. Plus the majority of the work is left to the woman. It’s not usually up for debate. Easy to make your mind up as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:47 PM
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Or really a woman at all, frankly. It’s a Reddit post, lots of creative writing gets posted here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:45 PM
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This is true and explains the racial component when factoring in generational wealth. However female participation in the workforce is not restricted by the same demographics, women out pace men for the third time in history. There’s obviously still cultural resistance to non-traditional roles as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:14 PM
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This sounds made up, there are far too many childfree women these days for this to be a real concern. I know quite a few and they have never once mentioned being upset about a man who wants children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:45 PM
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Yep! How the Economy Is Fueling the Rise of Stay-at-Home Boyfriends What began as a viral TikTok joke has become a statistically significant labor market phenomenon. As women now outnumber men in U.S. payroll jobs, a growing number of men are choosing domestic life over the daily grind. The numbers are stark. In the early 1990s, men held nearly 7 million more payroll jobs than women. Today, that gap has been entirely eliminated. Between 2024 and 2026, the U.S. economy added 1.2 million jobs—two-…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:52 PM
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As a childfree woman, we know this. It is perfectly fine by me. I would not want to enter a relationship without being compatible in that way, I will not be having someone’s children and want no illusions (or delusions) around that whatsoever. I have zero problem remaining single, if necessary. I have never found this to be a problem though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:46 PM
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Nah, it’s true. If you make someone have an orgasm, they are more likely to want to fuck you. Women don’t have to tolerate absolutely horrible sex from men anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:06 PM
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Yes of course, but they pay that no mind! They are trying to impress those men instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:02 AM
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Women don't do that anymore and almost universally get away with not doing it. Really? I can name multiple countries in which they are killed and raped for it. Religious communities in the United States will excommunicate you and your entire family for having promiscuous daughters. Conservative men believe in purity culture and find themselves with no women to date. The world is moving on without them. Again, really? They are in charge of the entire government in America and there’s discussion a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:44 PM
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Every single person on earth is a mother or her child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:00 AM
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Misandrist is the term that is popularly tossed around without any real definition. These “misandrists” are often discussing the inherent violence women experience living in society with men who feel entitled to sex and labor from women without any consequence or responsibility, especially if sex turns into babies. They don’t hate men individually, they hate the system of oppression you guys enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 05:22 AM
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We don’t “depict” any such nonsense. That’s the way society expects women to act. You better be dainty, polite submissive and quiet, never lie, don’t think about sex, don’t do anything that will make you “dirty”. Men want to believe in purity culture and get pissed off when women turn out to be human beings and not NPC sex dolls Boys get the excuse to be reckless and stupid just because they are born as boys. Women don’t get any leeway with reckless or stupid behaviors the same way. Boys will be…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:06 AM
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I don’t think there are women denying this. There’s likely always some room for improvement for the guys leaving comments on this subreddit. There are far more guys who would rather externalize all the blame than take accountability for their own lives than there are truly untouchable and unfuckable people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:54 AM
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It’s likely some people only have a few experiences. Some people have a lot Some may have to pay for theirs, but that is the nature of it. Sex and reproduction was never intended to be a guarantee or something evenly distributed. Men have employed thousands of years of artificial pressures on women’s sexual selection, so I get why you may think otherwise but it’s not normal or natural or good for society
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:12 PM
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Why do all you dudes think old sperm is good? It’s literally not You go through ANDROPAUSE at the same age. After 40, you cause birth defects and pregnancy complications in whatever women you impregnate. Babies born to older men carry a higher risk of having genetic problems, says a study from the USA . A French study showed that male infertility shoots up after the age of 40. Not only does the lower quality of older men’s sperm lower fertility, it also makes it more likely that babies with gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 08:33 PM
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You must be new here. Men overwhelmingly want casual sex and lie to get into relationships so that they can have easy access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:32 PM
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They have to lie to fuck liberal women. And they do indeed lie in order to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:41 PM
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Corn farms received 3.2 billion in subsidies in only 2024, representing 30% of federal farm subsidies, for context. Besides corn syrup, corn is typically exported as feed or biofuel as it’s not fit for human consumption. It’s wasteful and bad for the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:09 AM
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It’s 100% in order to justify the subjugation of women and removal of their jobs from the workforce, elimination of the scholarships and student loans for the subjects they study in college. This is just the beginning unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:01 AM
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It’s MAGA Signed woman in red area in blue state.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:01 AM
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MAGA bros are not trying They 100% do try, and lie about their beliefs etc. then get upset when you call out something icky.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:01 AM
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Yes, it’s the men who are pornsick and gross all over the internet, saying the most disgusting things about women and little girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:15 PM
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This is not about romantic love.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:35 AM
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Okay sure. Keep telling yourself that. There’s a reason this has become a global phenomenon that coincided with widespread use of the internet. It’s not because men are online talking about how much they love their wives. Do you think women don’t also use the internet and see all the porn and other dehumanizing shit that is literally inescapable? Most popular porn categories tell you so much
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:21 AM
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No, men as a whole used to lie to women en masse about many things regarding relationships. Women are raised to believe that men wanted the same kind of things we were raised to want, and the reality became very clear when everyone got access to the internet and started sharing their inner thoughts that women are being raised in a very different way than boys are. It’s brainwashing. Now women know how men really treat sex and relationships and women are completely turned off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:03 AM
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Who said the women chose this? No one ever made that claim except homophobes and bigots. Women like to throw big parties and wear princess dresses. Makes sense that they would enjoy getting or being married. Makes sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:40 AM
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I suppose so 🤷‍♀️ All the non-monogamy you can ever want in a partnership is definitely more easily found in the gay community. Might have cracked the code on where all the casual sex is found.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:32 AM
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Women are not focusing on romantic relationships in the same manner as the past. Women are also dating each other, with something like 35% of Gen Z women identifying as LGBT.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:25 AM
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That’s a nice fan fiction, any source for your claims? Lgbt people are the only ones who are having a good time on the apps. Men are more satisfied with apps than women, who on average have negative experiences, delete the apps and never return to them https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/02/key-findings-about-online-dating-in-the-u-s/ Some demographic groups are more likely to report positive experiences. For example, 57% of men who have dated online say their experiences have been p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:52 AM
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“It’s natural!” and the rest of the bioessentialism that absolves them of any of the responsibility for their actions. It’s treated as a joke “All the testosterone” like when Jesse Watters, telling all the women on his news show to watch out for all the rapey men because of increased testosterone
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:42 AM
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You guys have no idea what it’s like for women on the apps. There is a reason they don’t have any women on them, and it’s not because every woman is finding what she wants. Refer to any study about dating apps, or even the apps themselves. They know they are unappealing to women altogether and desperately want to appeal to that demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:34 AM
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It’s always been fact that some people get no sex. This is true for every species on earth. Hence sexual selection. You don’t get sex for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:19 PM
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No one ever said that everyone gets an equal amount of sex. This is an example of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:39 PM
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No idea what you’re talking about. 🤷‍♀️ Men freaking out about having to adhere to beauty standards suddenly is hilarious to watch. Welcome to our world. Of course, now it’s a moral failing to be a “visual creature”. Cause women can do it and elect to not date at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:59 PM
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Women are not begging for men or attention from men. It’s not virtuous of men to have low standards for relationships. It’s the biological imperative for women to pick a suitable partner, and that is far more consequential for the woman than it ever would be for a man, given that the risk of pregnancy and STD is higher for women period. Having high standards is born out of safety concern, not a moral failing of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:54 PM
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It’s not noble of men to be less picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:37 PM
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Paper abortions are absolutely a stupid idea Men should have more responsibility regarding contraception, that’s when you get to opt out of pregnancy. It fails? She keeps the baby? That’s is the biological reality of having sex. It’s asinine that women are criticized for fearing all the risks of pregnancy while men do their damndest to escape any risk and responsibility at all
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:44 PM
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We aren’t discussing your whataboutism though. Misandry is not a part of the topic, please stay on subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:54 PM
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I don’t have a clue where you’ve gotten that idea. I never stated anything resembling that statement. I have been single for years by choice, as a lot of people I know have. Sometimes it is a choice. But even when it’s not, the automatic assumption is not that you are a misogynist. Misogyny just reeks and is obvious. And they often tell on themselves through words and actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:11 PM
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I speak only for myself. I personally found your contribution to be really pointless. Now we are engaged in a separate conversation in a public forum, where another person may also interject just as you and I both did. See how that works?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:02 PM
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How about you try speaking for yourself instead of women on the internet who are here to speak for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:28 PM
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If you hold gross beliefs about women, it seeps out into the the things you say. You can’t participate and believe in manosphere bullshit and then not tell on yourself in front of women. We can see it eventually, even if you are the best actor. Because it affects every single interaction you have with other people, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:27 PM
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That women don’t like old guys? Pretty sure that’s the opposite of what red pill tells men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:58 PM
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Unconditional includes lack of sex, or dead bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:21 PM
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I googled it https://www.cbsnews.com/news/women-breadwinners-tripled-since-1970s-still-doing-more-unpaid-work/ About 16% of wives are the breadwinners in their families, while another 29% earn roughly the same amount as their husbands, according to the analysis, which is based on several sources of data including the U.S. Census Bureau and the American Time Use Survey. That means a combined 45% of women earn the same or more than their male spouses, almost triple the share that did so in 1972, P…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:06 AM
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Every nurse I know is fucking someone, must be just your workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:08 AM
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There’s no women here to stop you, if there were, you wouldn’t need to go elsewhere. It’s not just women calling out this delusion about “genuine desire” If you need to go find an impoverished woman who will accept you for your wallet, don’t pretend it’s because she thinks you’re attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:18 AM
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The turning her down because it’s his body is the whole point though. Without that, he doesn’t have his “gotcha”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:59 PM
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It doesn’t mean they are meeting on dating apps. A lot of activities happen online. I have gamer friends who have met their spouse in video games or on discord. People meet in teams at work online. Feel free to google it yourself, women flee dating apps because they are unsuccessful and find the options less than spectacular. Every single study on the subject affirms this. It’s also why these companies spend a ton of time trying to attract women users, who by and large delete the app within a mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:38 PM
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No, equality in relationships is the only viable future. Otherwise we die alone. Literally adapt or die. Bioessentiallists should love this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:59 PM
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What else is new? Sounds like every man ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:20 PM
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No one is being bullied. It’s just a new trend to decenter men, or avoid them altogether and save yourself the inherent risk involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:02 PM
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Isn’t this considered contentless rhetoric?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:59 PM
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We are over it, clearly. Now it’s shameful to have a man at all, apparently. Oh how things change.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:57 PM
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Shame used to be a death sentence for women, probably why.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:02 PM
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No there isn’t 🙄 Men are walking around shirtless annoying women in public as we speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:41 PM
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Being called a virgin isn’t the same as being shamed for not being married or having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:41 PM
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No one is shaming men for being “bachelors” just because it’s not being celebrated anymore. Until there is an entire culture of shame around men, their bodies and their lust, you aren’t going to be able to compare it to what women have been put through.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:40 PM
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Sorry but women have been attacked for silly things on their bodies for all of time, the hip dip thing is not even new, just a new term. Doubt this is going to bother women nearly as much as men are bothered by being short.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:28 AM
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Men still used to use this as a way to pressure women into relationships. Being unmarried was far more devastating for women than it has ever been for men, socially and economically. It’s not even a comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:35 PM
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No one mentioned IQ anywhere. What are you blathering on about? I provided you a link to a credible website with statistics in the US. You are very sure that anecdotes trump reality but I assure you they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:16 PM
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Correct. This is true for my friends and my sisters, with maybe one exception. Most women are overwhelmed by the gross behavior and delete the apps. Studies show this, too. Women are more disappointed by dating apps than men are. https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2023/02/02/the-experiences-of-u-s-online-daters/ 79% of college-age women reported that they don’t use dating apps regularly. This indicates a significant number of women are opting out of these platforms. Women are more likely than …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:59 PM
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Dating apps are not representative of dating reality as a whole. The majority of women do not use dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:13 PM
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Wrong again. Are you making things up or do you have a source where you find all this misinformation? Statistically men have more sexual partners than women Here’s from the CDC website https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htm Women lifetime partners : 4.3 (0.10) Men lifetime partners : 6.3 (0.39) Men have on average 2 more sexual partners in their lives than women do. Women are not sleeping around like men. Men are more likely to have many partners, in fact, as that link goes o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:07 PM
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No, dating is not lying about who you are or changing things about yourself to trick women into thinking you are someone you are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:41 PM
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He meant that you reserve some sexual acts just for your husband. It’s a popular idea that you “save” something for him. It’s very gross
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:32 PM
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No, the post implies it’s inherently deceitful of men to tailor themselves to trick women into liking them by pretending to be what she is looking for in order to have sex. That is deceitful
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:29 PM
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I think you can only feel that way if you project male sexuality onto women. Women are not going to find the majority of men attractive enough to just see him and be horny. That is not how female sexuality works for most of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:03 PM
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Accountability! That is not what that word means. No one is “accountable” to their future partner. That’s silliness. If you care about her sexual history to the point of your own dysfunction, you’re not compatible, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:53 PM
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It’s just porn brain trying to imagine reality for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:51 PM
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That is sad. Most women find casual sex incredibly disappointing because it’s unsatisfying
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:49 PM
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No, this is not an issue at all for me or any women I know. We are not concerned about relationship prospects based on previous partners because I would never select a partner who is concerned with that nonsense. (Neither would my sisters, for instance) There is no need for “restraint” and it’s got nothing at all to “tabooness”, I literally just would not like to sleep with the majority of those men, and especially casual sex is very unsatisfying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:45 PM
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Women are not building careers to get a partner. That is what men do. Women are building careers for stability in their own lives because economic independence has only been available to us as women for a short while.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:27 AM
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Except very few women are ever interested in casual sex. It’s more like a one and done type of thing. It’s statistically unsatisfying and typically a regretful thing for most women, this is echoed by nearly every study on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:21 AM
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Mmkay sure, Jan Women aren’t interested in trying to gamify casual sex like men do, we have more risk involved trying to spend time with men cause you guys are violent towards us and kill so many of us on a regular basis. Not to mention all the cheating and other shit that men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:38 PM
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I call bullshit. There’s been so many complaints and screenshots of these groups, find some that rank men based on how horrible they are in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:24 PM
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Nope, it’s usually about criminal history, history of abuse or violence, cheating and lying. For safety reasons. We aren’t ranking you based on what you do in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:10 AM
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Facebook started as a website ranking women in college. So you guys already do this shit to us. There’s groups of men trading tips on how to rape women, or take advantage of your wives and girlfriends. Women don’t do that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:08 AM
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No, try to read the comment again. I am asserting that the passivity that you guys are complaining about from women is a societally induced behaviour from years of patriarchal religious conditioning and rigid gendered expectations placed on those women by their communities and their families. It was designed by men. If it were natural, there wouldn’t need to be such excessive outside pressure to conform to it. And yes, I have had a random man that I did not know or speak to previously attempt to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:08 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosociality https://www.academia.edu/3025011/Toward_an_Empirical_Model_of_Male_Homosocial_Relatedness_An_Investigation_of_Friendship_in_Uniform_and_Beyond_Psychology_of_Men_and_Masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:18 AM
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Yes, often with the threat of violence or worse. That’s what it means to be subordinate which is something that is expected of you if you are a woman in any of the abrahamic religions, which are the largest and encompass the majority of people on the earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:42 PM
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The only way he could think this up is if he believed women were manipulating men into approaching first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:39 PM
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They think we are maliciously depriving them of something they deserve
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:21 PM
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That’s a very weird thing to say, who is saying this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:20 PM
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Yes, since lesbians cum as much as straight men, it’s not a mysterious reason why men are unable to do t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:25 AM
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Recreational arguing. Helpful during my luteal phase and I feel less annoyed with the people in my life by comparison. This place makes nearly everyone else irl seem less batshit insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:17 AM
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The ones who use toys have a vibrator, not dildo, meaning they still want clitoral stimulation instead of vaginal. You can read the study in the link provided. It’s not contradictory at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:42 PM
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The majority of mastication is digital, meaning fingers. Less than half of women use a vibrator. https://gitnux.org/female-masturbation-statistics/ Clitoral stimulation via fingers is used by 78.9% of women in solo play 82% prefer clitoral over vaginal focus alone 36% of women prefer shower/bath masturbation for privacy, with water jets used by 18%, per 2021 survey Humping pillows or objects is a technique for 23% of women under 25, decreasing with age Nipple stimulation combined with genital to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:08 PM
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You think the one you gave me counts as important?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:50 PM
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Again, the reason why I mention the toy is that is a woman can’t stimulate her own clit to orgasm without a vibrator, what makes it more the man's fault than hers? There is no evidence this is a widespread issue at all. MOST WOMEN ORGASM WHEN THEY MASTURBATE ALONE Every single study on this subject details exactly that men ignore women’s clitoris in favor of penetration. Toys are not necessary. You can stimulate the clitoris with your tongue or fingers, get creative! Some women are too sensitive…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:46 PM
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Sorry, men ignore women’s clitoris and that’s why women don’t orgasm with men. Every study on the matter reinforces. Sex is not only about penetration with a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:31 PM
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This is a useless reply and it’s not surprising your comments keep being deleted. You can’t debate with this toddleresque response.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:38 PM
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Men have been ignoring women’s pleasure since all of time. Women reliably have orgasms alone 92.4% of women are able to orgasm from masturbation Women take an average of 14 minutes during partnered sex to orgasm – an average of 8 minutes during masturbation 77% of asexual women have masturbated and many of these women orgasm 80-92% of women who have never had an orgasm ARE able to orgasm after clinical treatment Or with other women 86% of homosexual women usually or always orgasm during partnere…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:35 PM
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This is honestly just more evidence that caretaking has literally nothing at all to do with the genitals you are born with. It sounds like your ex was not built to be a parent but you are, just as this commenter prefers to work her hard labor job to parenting. It’s got more to do with the person than it does the role prescribed to their gender by society. Previously it was the law that prevented women from doing much else because naturally pregnancy is more involved for the woman. That doesn’t m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:56 AM
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Some people shouldn’t be parents. It’s a shame there’s so much pressure to have children because a lot of them are raised by people like your ex. It’s a good thing you were there to help them escape what could have been a terrible fate, neglect is abuse full stop. I know one other man who has done this for his own children.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:42 AM
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You’re simply wrong, women were not paid the same wage as men, if you had a look at the links I provided it would inform you of such basic history. There was a sharp drop in wages for women through industrialization where they were systematically prevented from having higher paying jobs, of course, until WW2. Here’s more proof, but you’ll have to read a bit of the sources instead of making me quote the whole body of the articles, sources below; Once the labor supply had been recruited, and the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:25 AM
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No, we are just done having children or sleeping with with the men who think like you do. :] I am sure you raised those children to be exceptional all by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:46 AM
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Raising children is not easy, and it was not a choice for women since we carry the baby for 9 months to term, and then must feed the infant from our bodies for up to two years. Pregnancy is costly, but it wasn’t a choice that women made to not work. Evidently, when given the opportunity to work, women seem to prefer it since that is what modern women are choosing over marriage and children and domestic servitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:55 AM
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I haven’t. What you are describing isn’t considered objectification in any argument about the subject outside of maybe usefulness. There are different types of objectification as well, since sexual objectification isn’t the same as personal objectification for instance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectification According to Martha Nussbaum, a person is objectified if one or more of the following properties are applied to them:[1] Instrumentality – treating the person as a tool for another's …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:13 AM
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You can’t enter into a lifelong contract with the gender who acts like they will die without sex and die if their penis isn’t inserted into a warm hole and not expect to be their sex doll of sorts. We agree with this, which is why we aren’t marrying as often as we used to. Same goes for having children, since the majority of the child raising and caring is done by women regardless of the hours she works or money she makes, we are opting out of that as well pretty frequently these days. Giving yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:09 AM
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That isn’t what objectification is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:06 AM
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Do you have a source for the existence of this “criminal list” of suicidal men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:17 PM
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No it does not, maybe you need some help with reading. It says “keeping perpetrators in view”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:16 PM
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No one ever denied they had the ability to make some money, it was always far less than what men were paid. Her wages also belonged to her husband if she had one, and retroactively if she ever got one. They were not allowed to own property or get a mortgage, or a line of credit without a man. Women in the US gained the right to open their own bank accounts in 1960s, but it wasn't until the Equal Credit Opportunity Act was passed in 1974 that they could do so without needing a male co signer. htt…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:40 PM
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Yes, they ask everyone that question. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:45 PM
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Only men value that behaviour in other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:24 AM
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They tiptoe around it but it’s always about the use of her body or labor in some way that makes him feel exceptional. It’s always an issue if she won’t do something for him that she’s done for another guy because obviously then someone else got access to something they aren’t getting and she therefore doesn’t love them, even if she did not enjoy whatever it was. It’s always about access and ownership.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:03 AM
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No thank you to the competition. Most women aren’t going to entertain you long if you are doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:00 AM
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What specifically are these social expectations that men have that women don’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:43 PM
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Hateful content online from women has never devolved into terrorist ideologies. Hateful content online from men has and continues to get women killed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynist_terrorism Misogynist terrorism (also called misogynistic extremism or male supremacist terrorism) refers to one of the most extreme manifestations of misogyny and violence against women. This type of terrorism specifically targets women and girls by subjecting them to mass murder and bodily harm. Those who …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:03 PM
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They aren’t the same thing because misandry is not equal to misogyny in any way. Women aren’t murdering and raping men the way men murder and rape women. Women don’t commit terrorist attacks on men Men commit terrorist acts against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:32 PM
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Who said anything about negative videos about women? We mostly want you guys to stop with the overwhelming violence. Women are mad they have had to be subservient to you guys. Men just seem to miss it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:18 PM
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Women want men to entertain them during courtship, they want men to show unshakeable confidence and prove they're not only safe but can be a woman's emotional rock. Women prefer benevolent sexism from men. Entertaining is a lot more than just paying for dinner and a movie. Women give absolutely positively none of this in return. They think their presence is all they have to bring. "I am the table!!!" and all that BS. I covered the benevolent sexism part in some of those studies; it’s really popu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:52 AM
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It’s the lack of sex and relationships, 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:42 PM
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I know you guys are obsessed with courtship because many of you have never gotten further than that, but courtship has very little if nothing at all to do with your relationship as a whole. Modern women pay for dates, every study on this shows more men than women believe they are the ones who should pay. Here’s just an example https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimelsesser/2020/02/12/who-should-pay-for-dates-how-chivalry-contributes-to-the-gender-pay-gap/ In a survey on love and finances conducted by …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:45 PM
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No you see, as a woman you are responsible for taking care of that man’s feelings regardless. If you don’t then it is your fault he’s hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:25 PM
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We do, as everyone should in interpersonal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:24 PM
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Women don’t have desire for men who want unequal relationships. Men want hierarchical relationships where they have dominion over women and children, which is no longer acceptable. Women can provide for themselves and are putting children off until they can provide for them too, without a man if necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:25 AM
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Liberals don’t care about marriage as much by comparison, cause you can only be comparing marriage rates. Liberals are more interested in casual sex, both the men and women and that is even more true if you’re queer. 🤷‍♀️ Lots of unconventional relationships taking place in liberal areas. I’m friends with more than one polycule, for instance. Marriage isn’t the goal for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:39 AM
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This is not true. I live in a blue state but in a red area, the only ones not getting play are conservative types. At least locally it’s really popular to claim you are independent or just don’t follow politics, usually indicating a Republican voter. It works against you in the dating scene at the moment. 4b was never really a movement in the west but the trend of women avoiding causal dating, relationships and marriage still continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:36 PM
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You would think it would make sense to them since sexual interest from another man is a threat, they use it as a form of violence and punishment. Sexual interest from men can be threatening to women in the same way but they would rather feel like victims of rejection and blame her for “mischaracterization” or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:12 PM
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Yeah but they love to threaten to withhold things from women. Used to be economic viability, money or resources. It’s their favorite play, but they no longer have that leverage right out the gate. Women have learned that having kids is risky because of this behavior as well, and have simply opted out. Men look at sexual attention as a finite resource, because it is for them. They don’t understand why we don’t enjoy it the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:31 PM
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Anti male content, oh no. You can not engage with it and lessen its popularity on your feed if it’s affecting your mental health. It’s good that you don’t have to fear direct attack or reprisal from short form content videos and can just elect to not watch them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:23 PM
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They think women are somehow feeding off “attention” from other men. It’s always framed as somehow a threat that they will cut off this very important resource
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:41 PM
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You think it’s been free market for women the way it was for men from its inception? Tell me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:26 AM
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Yeah sure. K-pop singers are the paragons of traditional rugged masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:02 AM
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Male suicide rates beg to differ. Therapy and mental healthcare is gay or too feminine. This is a belief men cling to, so they don’t get help and then they kill themselves and their families at alarming rates. Same reason some men think it’s gay to use straws, or cross your legs, or have feelings that don’t directly relate to anger or rage. Another reason why you guys can’t form close friendships with each other in a way where vulnerability is fostered. That’s too gay and you guys think your emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:19 AM
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You can get all of those things now, you just have to earn them from women instead of being able to forcibly take them through economics or other oppressive means.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:14 AM
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Hordes of American K-pop fans would disagree entirely. Men have no idea what women find attractive. American men like super masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:12 AM
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I insist you read the comments in this thread. Men asking why patriarchy is bad and denying it even exists, while the op outlined very clearly traditional patriarchal values and expectations that men must adhere to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:51 PM
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Yes, patriarchy hurts men too. Why, then, do suppose you guys defend it with your lives? Hint : It’s not because it benefits women in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:34 PM
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Have you considered that if men went after women of better quality, they'd avoid these kinds of women? There is a reason all of this sounds so punitive. It’s always about punishing women for how they mistreat men by not choosing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:41 PM
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The biter doesn’t immediately bite. Misogyny reeks, unfortunately. It’s much easier to spot. Letting iffy mental health things slide is actually not uncommon and especially since men are rarely formally diagnosed because they refuse to seek treatment, he could easily say he’s got nothing wrong and not technically be lying. Again malicious actors and all that. Violent attacks don’t always have a lot of forewarning, unless he’s literally rabid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:20 PM
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They don’t feel any responsibility though because they are “sacrificing” by editing themselves. Or attempting to. That’s why they are always talking about fighting demons and believe it’s noble to lie to you to spare your feelings. The whole point is he’s doing you a favor by lying because otherwise you’d be upset. Still not his fault though. He can’t help it, it’s his “nature” or whatever and he’s a work in progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:38 AM
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Not just her past, but any future is his to dictate as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:31 AM
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They do think it’s normal to lie about themselves in order to “get” a woman. They see no moral conundrum with this because there are so many that would never get a chance if they were honest. It’s not about compatibility to them, which is why they grow to resent her for having a mind of her own and daring to disagree with him about whatever. He’s not wrong for lying, she’s wrong for not fitting him. Edit ~ a word
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:29 AM
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Screening as I said is imperfect but absolutely not functionally useless. There will always malicious actors for as long as women have something that men want from them. Women will be blamed for what happens to them regardless, but any safety measure taken is never completely useless. Maybe you underestimate the likelihood of violence women face on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:20 AM
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No, because if he’s using labor to describe femininity he’s not looking for a significant other. Cooking and cleaning are not traditionally feminine attributes. There is nothing inherently feminine about that form of labor. Domestic servitude has never even been reserved for women. Also your ability to find an anecdote on the internet doesn’t prove anything. Women have been subjugated in the past and forced to perform that labor. You can frame missing slavery as a nostalgia for tradition as well…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:45 AM
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On the contrary, it implies screening is imperfect when you’re dealing with someone who intends to deceive you maliciously. Also, just because he is dangerous doesn’t mean he’s misogynistic. He could be clinically insane, those two things are not mutually exclusive but are probably equally dangerous to a woman’s wellbeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:26 AM
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Straw man where? Feminists aren’t using this term to criticize that at all. It’s only ever used as a criticism about the labor digging men do to women that they dont actually care about outside of the services she provides him. Robots can’t get here fast enough, frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:49 PM
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Depends on the person and the biting. For some people, that’s a kink. I had a boyfriend who liked it but I’d still probably not bite him unless he asked me to. I definitely find that identifying misogyny before getting close to a man definitely cuts down on the risk of sexual or violent assault, which includes the type of biting I assume you are referring to. It’s something to screen for hopefully before anyone gets an opportunity to bite, so maybe that’s why he got his chance and you didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:40 PM
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He makes perfect sense and has been actually very polite about it. You seem insufferable and that is certainly being noticed first.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:34 PM
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Yes of course, the terminology itself is a feminist conspiracy and was not initially derogatory slang used as a joke against women in a comedy tv show. 🙄 The term was coined by the male characters on the show it’s always sunny in Philadelphia https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bang_maid 2007 October 25, Rob McElhenney, “Dennis Looks Like a Registered Sex Offender” (5:37 from the start), in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia‎[1], season 3, episode 11, spoken by Frank Reynolds (Danny DeVito): “Charlie,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:40 PM
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That’s just the correct definition, not this weird substitution you’re trying out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:43 PM
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It’s a form of comp-het and it’s usually to avoid harassment. It’s absolutely a bisexual man thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:40 PM
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This is how men view gay and bi men, but the homophobia from women is way overblown. There’s women who find mlm sexy as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:57 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:49 PM
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Being jealous of “bad guys” and the way they “get away with being bad” doesn’t make you a good guy, it means you’re also secretly a bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:32 PM
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Yes that makes sense since I was trying to respond to the same comment that you were. Mobile sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:08 PM
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They do show that women are worse off after divorce. Taken together, these findings suggest that men’s disproportionate strain of divorce is transient, whereas women’s is chronic. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5992251/ When a heterosexual relationship breaks down, women are at a much higher risk of falling into poverty than men – especially if they have children to care for. Our new research suggests that while a breakup, on average, reduces men’s disposable household income by 5%, on…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:20 AM
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In the original story that Christianity stole this story from, the man ate the forbidden fruit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:01 AM
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Makes no difference, perpetrator is always a man. It’s statistically always a man when men get attacked too. You guys have a serious problem with violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:49 PM
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I have never known a woman to be attracted to a man in every other way and then he’s just too nice and gets rejected for that alone. That is not realistic. There’s always another reason, like just not being attracted to someone who is also very nice. You are not being “rejected for being too nice”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:28 AM
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Women don’t reject men for being nice. Women reject men for being desperate or weird. Women are far more likely to be victims of abuse and violence at the hands of men than the reverse. The most dangerous thing a woman can have in her home besides a gun, is a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:04 AM
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Point is everyone has a skewed idea of what average is. If you are a healthy weight, you’re almost always, by default, above average. Which is why the first advice to dating is always to get into shape and get the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:05 PM
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You’re so right, how could I forget that it’s also framed as a need, but only for men. It’s immoral if women want to have sex, but it’s a necessary bodily function if you have a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:02 PM
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Sorry, you’re correct. The average BMI for American men is 29.4, which is technically still just overweight. Obese BMI is 30.0 Your picture is slightly thinner than that, though. Yours looks way more like an above normal or 24.0 BMI 29.4 is much larger. https://www.shutterstock.com/shutterstock/photos/1939760461/display_1500/stock-vector-man-body-mass-index-vector-fitness-bmi-chart-with-male-silhouettes-and-scale-body-mass-index-fot-1939760461.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:56 PM
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The average man in America is obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:20 PM
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That’s an incredible leap! I can guarantee most women are no longer interested in trying to pry feelings out of men. Save it for the therapist or your mother, and let them earn your private thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:10 PM
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The average dude could get all of those things if he lowered his standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:17 PM
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You’d have to ask them, I’ve stopped dating men 🤷‍♀️ Sounds like you answered your own question though, to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:19 AM
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It literally doesn’t. You’re right. Unattractive people have casual sex all the time. I think you have to place all your value as a person on it to be satisfied the way a lot of dudes are. Even if it’s cheap and means nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:24 PM
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Sex is somehow both the only way they can show and feel love, but then sex is also something they just do to women and it means nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:22 PM
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How can I answer that when I am not a man and that’s a highly personal question? You think all men require the same thing exactly from another person in order to open up? I am a woman, and an individual. I can only give you my personal experience. It’s almost like you’re implying women have to earn the right or something which is silly and probably just your personal issue with emotional openness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:19 PM
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Usually you’d have to discuss this within a relationship, however you know that woman. Expecting strangers of any gender to be receptive is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 06:07 PM
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Therapy is a field dominated by women perhaps, but psychology is not. lol Men have spent nearly a century manufacturing all the ailments you guys think belong to women. Have you been broken up with for crying? I’d like to hear that story. Mostly men have uncontrolled emotional outbursts and expect that messiness to be received well. Women are not calling men names for being sad or emotional; that’s other men. Women are not telling men to be stoic and not simps; that’s other men. You’re making sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:57 AM
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No, men are the ones obsessed with women’s virtue. You’re just describing male ideas about femininity. It’s wrong, but it’s not an idea that came from women, it’s the patriarchal traditional expectation. Women don’t want anything to do with your stupid ideas of virtue, and there is no excuse for emotionally neutering yourself because you don’t want to be considered feminine for having feelings that are not anger or relating to violence. Women are not the reason men are afraid to cry, men are afr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 11:10 PM
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This is not true. Women beg and plead for men to be emotional, act considerately, be honest and affectionate. They drag them to therapy and social gatherings and romantic comedies and try so hard to get any emotional engagement from the men in their lives at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:07 PM
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This is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:39 PM
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We are still above replacement rate ; Replacement rate reproduction refers to the total fertility rate (TFR) needed for a population to maintain its size without immigration, typically around 2.1 children per woman in developed countries. In contrast, the current fertility rate reflects the average number of children born per woman in a specific year, which can vary widely; for example, the global average was 2.3 children per woman in 2023 https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/replacement-fertility…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:27 PM
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Overpopulation is a far more devastating and realistic outcome. The birthrate crisis is an economic one, and can be solved by economics like taxing billionaires and now trillionaires. It’s not an existential crisis at all. The human race is not going to die out. Men just aren’t having sex and the Epstein class wants a certain color of slave, so it’s a convenient narrative for both to use politically.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:54 PM
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You actually are not considered to be related to your offspring after 4 generations. You quite literally don’t share any DNA with them after 4 generations. https://genealogypals.com/how-many-generations-until-you-are-no-longer-related/ The distance (or the number of generations) required before no longer being considered related to someone depends on how and why you look at it. Legally, you may no longer be considered akin to someone as 2nd cousin. Genetically, it may take 4-5 generations to vir…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:53 PM
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Also we are still at replacement rate, the people in charge just don’t like the color of them 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:00 AM
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Men vote to take away the rights of women. Go look at other countries for an example of the way it used to be for all women on earth. It’s sad you have to enslave us because you aren’t likable enough to convince us to be with you. Marrying little girls to old men is something a lot of you support; wonder why. You’re all slaves to your lust and it’s disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:30 AM
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There’s also plenty of humans on earth. Science says 10 bil is the maximum capacity and we are going to hit that before there is any chance of the human race dying out. This is just racial supremacist nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:12 AM
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This does not mean it’s universal at all. Still just an anecdote, and it sounds like it’s one you’re specifically looking for if you’re being served that kind of content online.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:23 AM
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Incorrect. The most dangerous thing a woman can have in her home besides a gun, is a man. Women are killed by their domestic partner (overwhelmingly males) and there actually is no comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:16 PM
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Explain to me how this is related to anything I’ve said? Your entire comment is an ad hominem with zero content or substance. Now you’ve wasted time for the both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:11 PM
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I do not hate men but I have a question for you. Why is it acceptable to hate dogs after a dog attack but it’s not okay to hate men when men attack you? I don’t think we have the same definition of hate. It’s pretty normal to hate something that is harmful to your wellbeing and to that of others, and to actively avoid the harmful thing. Why are men the only exception here? Cause men still get to blame women for picking men, and now also for not picking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:05 PM
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Men were allowed to have wealth though. Who said you’re guaranteed to be successful cause you happened to be born with the penis? Men just decided you had to have a penis to have that opportunity. Not the same thing in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:44 PM
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So the subjugation of women is the only way to get men to participate in society that benefits anyone else, sounds incredibly selfish and gross. Makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:26 PM
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Nothing has managed to stop humans from reproducing so far. We have already survived a massive bottleneck in the population because of a near extinction event and even still we persist. I think the human race is gonna be just fine until we ruin the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:24 PM
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Men are the ones doing all the complaining because they would rather subjugate us. It’s male entitlement that is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:48 PM
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And yeah it’s anecdotal but when you hear the same social media rhetoric over and over again IRL, it’s fair to assume exists outside of the internet This is actually not true at all and exactly the problem. It’s literally not safe to assume what you see on your algorithm is real, that’s the whole reason people are stuck in echo chambers to begin with. Social media is not at all real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:45 PM
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Women did not always have human rights. How are you not aware of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:41 PM
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Why is this some kind of metric men like to use when you guys also try to tell us you kill yourselves more often and more successfully? Can you see how those things might correlate with each other? Perhaps if it wasn’t seen as emasculating to get help, more men would also be on medication and would probably stop killing themselves (and their whole families sometimes) at alarming rates. Being on medication doesn’t make you a failure at anything, on the contrary it means you’re proactively taking …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:36 PM
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What leverage? If men are quitting women and women want to be left alone, what is the leverage? Sounds like everyone wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:52 AM
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Entitlement to someone else’s body is not really a political issue as it is a character flaw of an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:27 PM
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How else have they been left behind?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:22 PM
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Or, women can just avoid men altogether and avoid all the problems associated with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:37 PM
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This does not make any sense. If it did, you’d be implying that there was less violence back before the law intervened but we know this is not the case. Violence against women and children from men is pretty consistent through the ages until the law was involved, whether or not anyone gets punished for it, but there is less now because women are not partnering with men. The most dangerous thing a woman can have in her house besides a gun, is a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:47 AM
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Wanting to use a woman for emotional labor because your masculinity demands you foist that onto some poor woman you also fuck doesn’t mean that it’s noble.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:09 PM
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This is not true at all. The majority of domestic violence against women comes from people they know, ie their brothers and father and husbands. This is true still today as it was in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:52 PM
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Women not having access to abortion and birth control are not going to make women want to be intimate with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:50 AM
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Hard to perceive it as a scam if the benefits outweigh any downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:49 AM
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No, I mean their lack of standards in relationships and intimate partners. Being down to fuck whomever is not helping you find a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:03 AM
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Divorce does not benefit women. Every study and statistic shows that women are worse off more often than men are after divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:19 PM
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Men should address their lack of standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:00 PM
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Do you cook for and buy things for men you respect? Weird metric for “respect” No idea if you guys even know what that word means.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:58 PM
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I prefer to stick to the definitions of the words that exist already.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:08 AM
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I thought women were doing it for attention, and those are not real attempts? That’s what gets repeated here and everywhere else you find red pill rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:07 AM
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Birth control coincides with your statistic about women out-graduating men since the 1970’s. It’s literally why that change took place. It was also around the time they loosened sex worker laws. Women being on antidepressants is a very popular topic here but what do you suggest the correlation is? Men are notorious for just killing themselves in gruesome ways (sometimes murdering their entire families, or shooting up schools) and the only time we want to talk about men’s mental health is when it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:32 AM
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Neither is onlyfans. You are describing a very small subset of cam actors who do live content, or take requests. Not everyone does.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:29 AM
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I mean they can and people do make them work all the time. It’s just not a popular choice. No one ever denied that sex is important. It’s just always the most important aspect for men oftentimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:29 AM
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I have, I know many men because of my hobbies. They have routinely admitted that having sex is the main reason to be in a relationship and the women have to clear just a few basic qualifications to fill that role for a length of time. Women do not operate like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:11 PM
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No it’s not? Show me any definition where that is the case. If it were, pornographers would be prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:10 PM
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If you say so
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:09 PM
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Yes because women give birth. Good thing less of us have decided to do that these days, which is the only reason why we have been able to make any ground. Being able to take birth control and not be impregnated gives us immense freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:08 PM
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No the women doesn’t get all the blame for “picking” a deadbeat. This narrative is why women don’t want anything to do with men anymore. 🤷‍♀️ Picking ourselves and leaving you guys to your porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:02 PM
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Usually the men who abandon their children and all responsibility in raising them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:57 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:07 PM
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Poverty is depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:07 PM
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It’s not prostitution lol The women are not sleeping with their clients. They are selling them pictures and videos. It’s pornography.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:05 PM
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Because women are interchangeable to men for the most part. Men don’t really like women, they like the body parts of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:54 PM
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No it’s not. Physical intercourse requires another person. You are performing sex acts on dildos or even if there is another person, you as a purchaser are not participating. I know that may be upsetting but it’s not prostitution, it’s porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:38 PM
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Statistically unlikely as the majority of women will not sleep with anyone on the first date and it doesn’t matter who you are really outside of unique subjective celebrity crushes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:31 AM
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Even top men aren’t having endless ONS with women, hot or average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:18 AM
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Onlyfans is porn and prostitution is engaging in physical intercourse for money. Doing porn makes you a prostitute? Or profiting directly from it is the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:15 AM
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You seriously think all women are size queens? I can tell you don’t talk to many women about this because typically a big dick is more of a novelty. The average vagina is 6 inches deep. There’s a reason men average the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:14 AM
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No, I don’t prefer a larger penis, I have ovarian cysts which run in my family. I have relatives who have been rushed to urgent care because sex had ruptured a cyst and that can be very dangerous, even fatal if you don’t seek medical treatment. It’s also incredibly painful. Just bumping a cervix or cystic ovary can cause a significant amount of pain. It’s actually medically risky for me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:06 AM
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Believe it or not, sex doesn’t have to include a penis at all to be satisfying to a woman. In fact, a penis being involved seems to contribute to the orgasm gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:52 AM
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Oh I am quite sure some do, but the vagina is only so deep and too large is painful for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:07 AM
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Men are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:06 AM
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You must not talk to or know any women. The majority of the ones I know are single by choice or married already with children. Actually single women who are childless are the happiest demographic. Which is why it’s so quickly growing. Would you like some statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:06 AM
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Where did I (or women) relate having sex to morality? Your comment makes zero sense in reply to mine. You are the one who seems to think onlyfans is immoral. Does that mean all porn is immoral to you? Unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:03 AM
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Statistically, this is highly unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:00 AM
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This is made up bullshit that no women require. This is a list that a redpill man created.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:46 AM
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That’s the porn men like to watch? Since they are the ones consuming the most porn by far. They are the ones who like looking at the big dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:44 AM
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The cat ladies chose those cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:04 AM
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The majority of women are picky and celibate. The ones who participate in casual sex have their pick of the litter because there aren’t that many women compared to the hordes of horny men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:01 AM
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Doing onlyfans doesn’t mean you’re fucking men. You’re selling porn, not touching people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:00 AM
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Why is it only immoral for women to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:28 PM
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Women in general don’t want to be in relationship with men anymore. Some women learned to do what you guys do, and pump and dump if they want a quick fuck. Mostly it’s celibacy or fwb situations with trusted individuals. Turns out men need relationships for sex though, so I get why so many men are pissed off they can’t have casual sex. Gender: Women are more likely than men to be unpartnered (44% vs. 40%). Age: 86% of adults 18 to 24 are unpartnered – far more than among 25- to 39-year-olds (42%…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:25 PM
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Sounds like you’re just jealous you don’t get to sleep with someone you find attractive. Calling women names for wanting to be with Chad when all you fat men want a beautiful woman to fuck is pretty hypocritical. Even the fatties want to fuck someone more attractive than them, is this supposed to be breaking news? Sounds like you’re mad Chad has no standards and will still fuck fatties but attractive women won’t be doing that, so. Pure jealousy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:07 PM
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Well, I don’t know what good that does. Most murders go unsolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:14 AM
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They did this to rosemary Kennedy in 1941, so not really that long ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Kennedy Kennedy began sneaking out of the convent school at night.[16] The nuns at the convent thought that Rosemary might be involved with sexual partners and that she could contract a sexually transmitted disease[6] or become pregnant.[17] Her occasionally erratic behavior frustrated her parents; her father was especially worried that Kennedy's behavior would shame and embarrass the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:57 AM
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Actually men could have their wives committed and lobotomized for smoking cigars and playing cards or simply disobeying him. Here’s an article with many examples of women in the 19th century who had everything taken from them for not doing what they were told to by men. https://time.com/6074783/psychiatry-history-women-mental-health/ The received medical wisdom of the age was that assertive, ambitious women were unnatural, and therefore sick. For centuries, women’s natures had been thought inext…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:17 PM
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The illegality of prostitution is a combination of controlling the spread of venereal disease, limiting sex trafficking and cultural morality. The legality of the profession has never eliminated its existence, since there is such a high demand. Sex work is legal in some states and under some loopholes, for instance now you can buy nudes / personalized porn directly if you wanted which is totally legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:01 PM
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Could pay for sex instead of trying to scam women out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:43 PM
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No it means men created a world that women were not allowed to participate without partnering with men. Women were property, we had no rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:40 PM
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It’s not about what another man deserves. No one deserves a sex act that I do not enjoy. You certainly aren’t a better man for demanding one if it’s not enjoyable, and so I agree he shouldn’t be a boyfriend to anyone if he thinks that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:59 AM
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I guess it only would make sense if she was trying to keep him?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:04 PM
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I thought Chad pumps and dumps. So she did get Chad but just for a bit? Seems like the best deal to me, gtfo after
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:13 PM
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This is an example of generalities to you? Or equivalent to the conversation we were having regarding statements that apply to a population of people? I disagree that this is similar in any fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:36 AM
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Sure, I’d love some.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:12 AM
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Have you never heard of someone qualifying their statement for “using generalities” in order to widen parameters? It’s the same idea. Generalities are ideas or observation, not hard fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:43 AM
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Nope. Generalities are broad statements. They may not be specific or verifiable, while facts are statements that can be proved or disproved with objective evidence. Understanding this distinction is important for evaluating information accurately. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2018/06/18/qa-telling-the-difference-between-factual-and-opinion-statements-in-the-news/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:38 AM
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Facts are particular lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:42 AM
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Lots of things are proven by data, of which we have lots Generalities might make you feel good but they are not facts
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:38 AM
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He’s been convicted of the crime of sex trafficking. So he’s a convicted sex trafficker.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:45 AM
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So this is just your opinion of what the rest of the human population is doing? We have data about that stuff though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:17 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:39 AM
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This is not factual. 23% of men vs. 15% of women aged 18-24 report recent casual sex (Guttmacher, 2019) https://worldmetrics.org/casual-sex-statistics/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:23 AM
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The majority don’t, no one claimed there are zero women engaging in casual sex. It’s not satisfying for the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:15 AM
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They don’t do casual sex. Refer to any study about this subject ever reported
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:10 AM
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There would be so much more casual sex. The fact there is not is your evidence. Women gain nothing from having sex with men in the same way men do trying to have sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:05 AM
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You as an individual do not die without having sex with another human being. Lots of individual human beings have died without continuing their genes and millions more die every day without doing it. The human race continues regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:58 AM
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You can believe what you want. If women wanted slutty men, everyone would be having way more sex. 🤷‍♀️ Men want sex for the sake of it but women don’t. It’s not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:00 AM
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I think porn use can be problematic if it leads to erectile dysfunction in a relationship. I think it’s different. Orgasms aren’t really included for women during heterosexual encounters with men, it’s much easier on the man using toys IME
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:00 AM
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Using a man doesn’t increase your likelihood of orgasm. Toys do though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:56 AM
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This is not true, it’s just that men are always out looking for other options. Studies show men don’t turn down sex from random people but women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:29 PM
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People are being deprived of shelter whether you call them “homes” or “houses”, and that’s a completely separate discussion which probably doesn’t do your position any favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:58 PM
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This has literally never been a fantasy of women. Women do not like promiscuous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:04 PM
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No one is “depriving men of sex” because no one owes men any sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:25 AM
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For the night, that is not persistent survival. This is a nonsense argument you are making and I can’t tell if you know that or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 08:19 PM
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Nope, shelter is required for survival or you will die of exposure. This is something true for animals as well as humans. No one said it had to be a house, but shelter from the environment is a requirement for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:09 PM
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It is actually not the same thing. If it were, it would be true in the animal kingdom and it’s not true. It’s societally induced and societally pressured, not innate. Men and women are not the same as a ceo and a cashier and that is a silly comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:07 PM
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No one claimed heirarchy wouldn’t exist. I said it wouldn’t be something between the genders. That is directly a feature of patriarchy and did not exist in human societies before the creation of patriarchy. The idea that men can own women and children is why we have obsession with virginity, youth, and possessiveness that plagues relationships. Marriage was created to transfer the property of women. It was the Romans who enjoyed gay sex but decided that penetrating someone is dominant and being …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:47 PM
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Pregnancy kills women, men do not die without having an orgasm in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:36 PM
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Not a house, shelter, from the weather and environment. Shelter could be a house but doesn’t have to be. Without shelter you will die of exposure. Without sex, you do not die of anything. My name is a joke about obsessive compulsive disorder, but you can read whatever you want into it, I couldn’t care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:35 PM
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Having orgasms is preferable to not having them, especially if you’re having sex with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:25 PM
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You’re rare then. The default expectation is that you will do emotional labor because you’re a woman. Doesn’t seem to matter what you tell men, they think that’s a part of the package and are upset when you tell them differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:23 PM
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No, it is not a need A portion of all males in every species does not get to reproduce. There is no guarantee to “spread your seed” and it would be wrong to guarantee that, since it doesn’t impact your survival at all but it would affect womens’.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:50 PM
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Incorrect. Physical intimacy could be as simple as a hug, this seems like your personal misinterpretation of the word. Intimacy doesn’t require you to physically touch each other at all. Intimacy is hugs and cuddling. Intimacy is closeness with another person. It’s never been just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:47 PM
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Sex ≠ intimacy They are not synonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:14 AM
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Reproduction is not required for individual survival and is not a physiological need. It’s a societal need, and a biological imperative but that doesn’t mean it’s “a requirement for survival” for an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:13 AM
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The bigger issue is that many average or lower-tier women no longer view their actual looksmatch as desirable because modern dating constantly exposes them to higher-tier male attention, even if that attention is only casual or sexual. How can this be the case if the majority of people end up paired up with their looksmatch? 70% of people end up pairing up with someone in their socioeconomics and looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:10 AM
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Men are getting it from each other and other infected women, through unprotected sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:56 AM
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Nope, nowhere in my comment did I suggest that. You tried to claim there is only transmission between gay men. That isn’t true
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:52 AM
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Bisexuals exist and the numbers are not made up, lots of men don’t admit their bisexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:49 AM
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Without patriarchy there is no heirarchy between the sexes and submission is not inherently demonized. That is a feature of patriarchy and misogyny, the idea that women are lesser than men. Being feminine is also not inherently negative or “emasculating”. There would be no “emasculation”, as there is not a female equivalent under patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:45 AM
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Do you know what “over their lifetime” means in this context and how it’s not comparable to current infection rates of men? Try to keep up. Nearly half of men in the US have active HPV infections https://www.fredhutch.org/en/news/center-news/2017/01/hpv-infection-half-american-men-study.html Approximately 45% of U.S. adult males are actively infected with HPV, compared to about 27% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:52 AM
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feminism doesn't make women attracted to feminine men Correction, patriarchy doesn’t create women who are attracted to feminine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:30 AM
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You can decide not to lie the data but it definitely exists and it’s not up for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:47 PM
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1 in 3 was for men, not women. Go read it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:38 PM
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More men than women have HPV. More women than men die of HPV related cancers. Men are responsible for being asymptomatic carriers and spreaders of HPV which is why now they are recommended to ask their doctor about the guardasil vaccine. 1 in 3 men worldwide have HPV https://www.who.int/news/item/01-09-2023-one-in-three-men-worldwide-are-infected-with-genital-human-papillomavirus A new study has been published in The Lancet Global Health showing that almost 1 in 3 men over the age of 15 are infe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:28 PM
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You clearly can’t read, as nowhere in my comment was this a logical conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:22 PM
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It’s not mysterious at all. Lesbians orgasm as frequently as straight men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:20 PM
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Where have you seen this? On tv? Or in your life experience? This sounds like complete bullshit, especially from a couple together that long. I have been in a relationship nearly that long and have known many other women who have been or are currently partnered with men for that long. Not a single woman I know would panic about that. Maybe think it’s something she did wrong, perhaps, or medical issue. But panic? That’s silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:18 PM
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Stop projecting, bad sex is bad even if he can keep his dick hard as long as he isn’t worried about her orgasm. Sex should be mutually satisfying and everyone could benefit from less focus on the dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:11 PM
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This is not true in my experience. The majority of the time if he cannot get off it’s because he’s got whiskey dick or similar, there’s no blame there. Maybe if you have porn induced ED, she would be mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:00 PM
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Connect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:53 PM
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Men who lose their erection cannot always get it back up. ED has gotten worse for younger men in the last few decades. Generally in my experience if a man cannot perform, there’s a 50/50 shot he will even offer to get you off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:52 PM
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Yes yes its all "shity" if the male body doesn't perform exactly how you want as a woman right? Nice try with your insecurities again, but no. It sucks and is shitty that sexy time is over if he lost his erection. Majority of the time that means no one gets to orgasm. Unless you’re into that sort of kink, then you should absolutely warn the women you sleep with that they will not get to finish.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:46 PM
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Probably clitoral stimulation of some sort It’s not a mystery where the nerves are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:41 PM
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You’re talking about something that seems like a personal insecurity and not necessarily something that most people don’t think or care about, which is why it sounds so strange in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:37 PM
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You’re correct. Way more women die of cervical cancer than men die of throat cancer, it’s not even close! That’s why the HPV vaccine was originally for just women, but now is offered to men who are carriers of the disease. They didn’t think men could get it but then they found out you guys were the main source of the disease. Now boys can also get the vaccine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:29 PM
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Bacterial vaginosis was recently confirmed to be carried by and spread by men not washing their dicks. https://www.stdtest.com/can-men-carry-bv/ BV is not classified as a sexually transmitted infection (STI). Men can carry BV-associated bacteria without symptoms. Male partners may contribute to BV recurrence. Condom use and good hygiene may reduce recurrence risk. Ongoing research is evaluating male partner treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:25 PM
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That will do it. Blow jobs have become an expectation that men have because of porn and they generally don’t give a fuck about the female orgasm at all. Women don’t get to have orgasms when they fuck straight men, this is documented over and over again through countless studies from western countries. Men are selfish in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:20 PM
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No one is raised solely by their mother. Normal individuation happens before / around puberty. Boys are raised also by their peer group and other men who enforce these social rules on each other. Since male approval often outweighs the mothers, her opinion stops mattering to him as much. This is a frequent complaint of all parents of teenagers, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:36 AM
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Right, but if the man leaves you with the child as it often happens, you can survive on your own with skills and a career so that you can feed yourself. It’s about self preservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:50 PM
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Sure, and then he leaves and tries to screw you over in any way possible. Better to have a skill to fall back on and a career of your own. Still not impossible to manage if you prioritize motherhood and avoiding poverty for your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:46 PM
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The idea is that financial stability doesn’t come from a man now that women can work. Relying on anyone else (men) is foolhardy and historically leaves you as a destitute single mother, or worse. If motherhood is in the cards, best be able to support the child on your own first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:12 PM
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Because there aren’t. The majority of women are not interested in casual sex and that is the gold standard apparently for men these days. Not to mention the moral / political differences between men and women. I know I am not alone in the idea I will not be sharing my body with any man who would not vote to defend it. It’s just as useless then to say that women should choose better if you’re concerned about broad statements. My only point is that your hypothetical wouldn’t work if you didn’t sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 09:57 PM
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No, this is operating under the assumption that there are many great options to choose from. There are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 06:37 PM
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You’re bitching about having to court women. You don’t actually have to though, you can leave us completely alone. It’s just a problem for you because you want something from us at the same time you despise us. You can’t just buy a woman to marry and own anymore. You still had to court those women and their families even when you could, though. Is it better to court a man for his daughter? Or are you subordinate to him somehow back then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 06:23 PM
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You struggle with context clues? Men are annoyed they have to be nice to us in order to get sex or labor out of us. They say this verbatim in this sub daily. Ironically your comment is completely contentless spam.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:33 PM
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Women have the power but then they never get to orgasm with straight men? They orgasm even less during casual sex with straight men. Sounds like they are not benefiting from this arrangement even though you seem to think they are in control of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:28 PM
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They are mad they have to appease their appliance before we get put to work cleaning the house and making babies. The fact we can say no at all seems to be the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:14 AM
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Nope. It’s 40% Way less than half. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ Gen Z women don’t want conservative men https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/poll-gen-zs-gender-divide-reaches-politics-views-marriage-children-suc-rcna229255 Gen Z men who voted for Trump rate having children as the most important thing in their personal definition of success. Gen Z women who voted for Harris ranked having children as the second-least important thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:46 AM
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Then why are most men married or partnered to women? Seems like the majority of men can do it and that is the opposite of being unicorns.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:12 AM
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Here’s the UN talking about how it’s possibly a crime against humanity because of the widespread harm against specifically women. https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/allegations-in-epstein-files-may-amount-to-crimes-against-humanity-un-experts-11051701 The experts said crimes outlined in documents released by the US Justice Department were committed against a backdrop of supremacist beliefs, racism, corruption, and extreme misogyny. The crimes, they said, showed a commodification and dehumanization …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:37 PM
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This is why anecdotes are useless, as a millennial in a blue state, all my girlfriends had to fight with their circumcised husbands to NOT circumcise their sons because the men wanted their boys to match. This is also coincidentally what the data says. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8654051/ Results: A total of 265 parents completed the survey. Of the study variables, the future health of the child and the circumcision status of the father were considered extremely important factors in…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:30 PM
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They don’t want to pay for anything that they used to get for free from women. This includes domestic labor, children and sex. If men cared about having children, there would be more single men using surrogates, but there are not. Single women are using sperm donors to become single mothers because motherhood is so important to them. Men don’t want children unless the woman (and access to her body) come attached. It’s also why they hate only fans. Now any woman can charge money for nudes that so…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:39 PM
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Oh look! I already have a dude arguing with me in this comment chain the very thing you just claimed they don’t argue/claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:27 PM
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There is an entire thread doing this very thing. “Men should not feel bad about what happens to women because he is ‘unselected’. “ Read the comments in there if you haven’t. It’s all women’s fault for being abused because they choose to be with abusers instead of the nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:04 PM
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Here’s the UN talking about how it’s possibly a crime against humanity because of the widespread harm against specifically women. https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/allegations-in-epstein-files-may-amount-to-crimes-against-humanity-un-experts-11051701 The experts said crimes outlined in documents released by the US Justice Department were committed against a backdrop of supremacist beliefs, racism, corruption, and extreme misogyny. The crimes, they said, showed a commodification and dehumanization …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:46 PM
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Men are the reason babies are being circumcised. It’s almost completely dependent on whether or not the father himself was circumcised. They want their sons to “look like them”. Also rates of circumcision are in decline in the United States overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:40 PM
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The problem is expecting equality of outcomes 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:35 PM
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No one is picking cherries. You want to share with the rest of us where in the Epstein files they talked about radicalizing feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:09 PM
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There is no requirement anymore They don’t always want to go mask-off and admit this is the part they want to change, but it is definitely something they consider. That’s why they shit on feminism and women having rights at all. They want easy access to sex and will take our rights away to have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:18 PM
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Conservative propaganda is the problem. This is admitted in the Epstein files, they have radicalized little boys on the internet for political purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:11 PM
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I have never so badly wanted to give someone an award. The whole red pill manifesto is a way for men to coerce women into giving them better treatment that they wouldn’t deserve by their own standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:06 AM
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Except that is also incorrect as studies have shown, men prefer young girls even as they go well into old age themselves, and women worldwide report predation of young girls by older men. And it is scientific evidence backing the anecdotal theory that men always prefer to chase younger women. https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/22/men-regardless-age-will-always-attracted-women-early-20s-8718590/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:49 PM
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Except it’s not an anecdotal experience. https://medium.com/@quesshart/being-hit-on-by-an-old-man-my-fathers-age-why-it-is-a-bad-sign-and-not-an-innocent-thing-when-e7430dab980b https://licensedmentalhealthcounselor.org/2013/02/20/teenage-girls-and-older-men-what-every-parent-should-know/ https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jun/08/power-patriarchy-victimhood-denial-three-experts-on-why-men-hurt-women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:27 PM
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This is just a list of made up stuff you thought up. No source at all? If it’s something the majority of feminists support it should be easy to find a link.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:10 AM
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You’re the one interrupting other people’s conversations to ask irrelevant questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:01 AM
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None of it did, including this comment thread. You felt the need to be involved so now you’re also informed. :]
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:33 AM
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Are you op?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:32 AM
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Also this is a debate subreddit. You can’t make a whiny claim about hypergamous women when men talk about sex like they are entitled to it, and not expect someone to point out the hypocrisy. Male virginity is treated as if it’s a fatal condition but women are to remain chaste or be criticized for enjoying sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:02 AM
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Nobody is twisting anything, this is claimed verbatim that life would improve for men here if they got to have sex. It’s not true, but it’s claimed often. Here is an example of a comment from a thread in this very subreddit from today; No, what "lonely" men feel is misery over missing out on the feelings and experiences they desire most. Chief among them is sex with women they're attracted to and being found sexually valuable by those women. This can be fixed with sex. Not sex of any kind, of co…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:38 PM
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Examples? Feminism is about equality of genders. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism Feminism is a range of socio-political movements and ideologies that aim to define and establish the political, economic, personal, and social equality of the sexes.[4][5][6][7][8][9] Feminism holds the position that modern societies are patriarchal—they prioritize the male point of view—and that women are treated unjustly in these societies.[10] Efforts to change this include fighting against gender stereoty…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:37 PM
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Feminism is about equality of the genders. Not about women reviving benefits. Please outline these advantages feminists demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:04 PM
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https://worldmetrics.org/men-cheating-statistics/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:35 AM
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Am I supposed to echo ops point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:33 AM
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Men think virginity is what ails them. It’s not. Having intercourse doesn’t change your life if it’s shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:46 PM
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Where did I say that? I’m not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:45 PM
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Not physically. Just morally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:05 PM
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He wants a child free woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:13 AM
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Oh no, they definitely do. They are also confounded that liberal women write them off so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:36 AM
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We found that a majority (55 percent) of young women would be less likely to date a Trump supporter, but far fewer (39 percent) say the same about the possibility of dating a Republican. The gap is even larger among young women with a college degree: more than three-quarters (76 percent) say they would be less inclined to date a Trump supporter. https://www.americansurveycenter.org/newsletter/are-conservative-men-struggling-to-get-dates/ Many Americans harbor reservations about dating someone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:25 AM
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There’s a large subsection who are in denial. They hit on my friends when I was in high school the same way they did to my younger sisters when they went. And now my niece tells the same tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:23 AM
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They just want to use their dick preferably with a woman. This somehow fixes their problems in their mind
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:18 AM
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It’s not the same kind of love that women are capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:09 AM
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The female perspective is that men are dropping out of dating because these men are weak, and more importantly, disgusting This is not the female perspective at all, this sounds like your assumptions from your perspective. Women know th majority of men in the US are conservative and don’t want to date conservatives. We don’t care what they do in the dating market, and they make up a huge majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:05 AM
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After a certain point maybe you should question the type of man you are selecting rather than saying this is just something men do This goes for “women want rich men” that you claim below. Just pick better women 🤷‍♀️ but also expect a man to be richer and higher status than them. This is just red pill mythology. Men also want to fuck porn stars or models The majority of people fall very short on what they want and end up with a looksmatch in their socioeconomic pool But you’re damn right women s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 06:50 PM
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It certainly saves time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:59 AM
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If your standards are that a meal is pleasant and nutritious and not from a dumpster, this is understandable. So sex should be pleasurable, correct? It’s often not pleasurable for straight women to fuck men. Men are focused only on their orgasm. Women don’t even get one. This new invention for male beauty standards has got all you boys in a tizzy. No sex is better than mediocre sex to women, whereas mediocre sex is still preferable over no sex for men. Most likely because you always get an orgas…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 06:54 AM
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Why don’t you just buy sex toys and leave women alone then? That’s what women are doing now that we realize what we are dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 06:46 AM
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This just illustrates your misunderstanding of therapy and SSRI’s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:40 PM
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Can’t know unless they try. They insist on their bastardized version of stoicism, which is just emotional neutering and of no benefit to anyone. Hence the lashing out and suicide rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:35 PM
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“Medically dependent” Men could definitely benefit from therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:36 PM
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No one is seen as anything be default. Male social conditioning makes you act predatory. You are praised for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:34 PM
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This is complete nonsense and not reality for most women who remain single and childless. They are the happiest demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:56 PM
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No, you do not need those people to personally like you for more than superficial reasons. You do though if you want to touch someone else’s genitals though and that’s way more personal than asking for loan advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:10 AM
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Because relationships, dating and sex involve another person. None of that other stuff you mentioned does, you have to take into account that another person must agree to be involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:56 AM
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Dating is personal though, and each woman is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:44 AM
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No. Men made it so women couldn’t participate in society without pairing up with them. Women now have the right to a bank account without being discriminated against (1974) and have been increasingly enrolling in college more than men since around that same time. Turns out women want gainful employment instead of domestic servitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:20 AM
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This is a well studied phenomenon. 🤷‍♀️ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8847982/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6035747/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11217024/ https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/26318318251362554 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338461556_Orgasm_Equality_Scientific_Findings_and_Societal_Implications https://www.rutgers.edu/news/orgasm-gap-continues-women-expecting-less-during-intimacy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:07 AM
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They are definitely straight. Men just think sex is only about penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:51 PM
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No, it’s also that casual sex just isn’t satisfying to women. I have linked multiple studies here before that prove this over and over again, and even in hetero relationships, straight women do not have orgasms as often as men do, or as often as lesbians do. Lesbians orgasm as much as straight men do, it’s only straight women who suffer from “the orgasm gap”. I will agree that sex with the right guy is amazing, there was no implication in my comment that women do not want to have sex. Just medio…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 09:39 PM
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I don’t think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 09:35 PM
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If sex with men was satisfying for women, we would want to do it more. Men don’t care about our orgasm. Imagine if you didn’t orgasm every time, you wouldn’t want to do it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:00 PM
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I think it’s so funny that now that women are almost at the same point where they don’t want children or to cohabitate with a man, and aren’t being satisfied sexually by them either, that we also don’t find value in relationships. Seems like the whole reason we paired up was because it was illegal for women to be autonomous human beings and needed men for economic stability, and men want regular access to sex. Now that we can be economically sufficient alone, men still want regular access to fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:59 PM
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Moralizing is deadly. It’s also hypocritical to do it to womens choices and not to do it to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:29 PM
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Being awkward doesn’t make you creepy. Being awkward because you’re being creepy / pervy is creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:31 PM
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“You’ve just never given them a chance, that’s why they will never get to prove it! Plus, he has no other options or ability to convince anyone else! Isn’t that desirable in a partner?”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:26 PM
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No one said it wasn’t his business, I told him to mind his own children. Can you read? Or are you replying to the wrong person?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:19 PM
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No, they are. It’s only manosphere bullshit telling you to be a traditional male. Women do not want this from you, otherwise many of you would be in relationships with women. At some point, you will have to face the reality that what you think women want and what we actually want are not the same at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:13 PM
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I am sure there are at least a dozen examples in comments from this very subreddit in the last 24 hours, and probably posts directly implying that women should care about how difficult dating is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:44 PM
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They just don’t even consider unattractive women exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:03 PM
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Same goes for the inverse, then. None of the women in here should feel bad about anything other women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 11:51 AM
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Modern women are still having babies Just far fewer than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 01:30 AM
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I can send you a screenshot to show that I never downvoted your comment, someone else has a problem with your lived experience. I just saw your reply the first time with the edit included 🤷‍♀️ Studies show that women tip more frequently, tip the expected amount without complaint (unlike men) and use services that require tipping more frequently. Not only are women more likely to tip, but they’re also more likely to leave a bigger gratuity than men when dining at a restaurant, with 44% of women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:42 PM
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I lost my only pregnancy, but I have raised other people’s children. How many kids have you had? Do you have the right to an opinion by your own standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:27 AM
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Mind your own offspring, stranger. Your opinion of me personally is irrelevant. Lots of men have womb envy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:20 AM
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Don’t forget childbirth. They need us for that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:50 AM
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It’s not that they have great success and stop using them. Quite the opposite. Women report not having any luck finding meaningful connections and abandoning the apps altogether because of hookup culture. https://pro.morningconsult.com/analysis/dating-apps-women-gen-z-bad-worse-relationships-reputation-2024 Just 18% of women believe the creation of dating apps has positively impacted society, notably less than the share of men (30%), Gen Z adults (32%) or all U.S. adults (24%) who say the same. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:32 PM
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The majority of women do not use the dating apps though. The fact there are so many men on there gives women more options because only a few ever use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:15 PM
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What data is that? https://www.pewresearch.org/2023/11/09/how-americans-feel-about-the-basics-of-tipping/ This claims the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:27 PM
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There is a reason because women risk rape and murder to interact with men. Men risk not having their advances reciprocated. It’s not the same dilemma
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:31 PM
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I have worked in service and have never encountered the idea that women do not tip. This has to be unique to your area
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:28 PM
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Dating apps have very few real women on them, studies have shown this over and over again. They are oftentimes 75% male users and onlyfans girls and bots.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:24 PM
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Wouldn't that information be an absolute dunk on men if like 50% of men think like that and only 10% of women? You are mistaken if you think studies like this are intended to “dunk” on men. They just challenge the cultural narrative of women being baby crazy. There are plenty of links in that article that take you to the studies they mention. Here is an example: Poll: Most men aspire to be dads https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/15/poll-most-men-aspire-to-be-dads/2427123/ Men wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:46 AM
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Men are more likely to say they want to have children because they perceive it is going to have less of a costly impact on their lives: less disruption of career, less emotional toll, less care-giving commitment," said Karen Lawson, a professor and the department head of psychology and health studies at the University of Saskatchewan. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/women-children-study-1.7119845
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:12 AM
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And only if the child comes attached to a woman. It’s also probably why it’s so easy for them to leave the child behind when they are done with the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:54 AM
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Provide links to those studies if you’re able
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:01 PM
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No, I relay data https://peplau.psych.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/141/2017/07/Peplau-2003.pdf There are massive differences to how men and women on average experience arousal. Men are way more concerned with how their partner looks than women are, and spend way more time (and money) on looking for arousing visual stimuli Women’s sexuality is not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:29 AM
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You’re doing that thing where men confuse their own male sexuality for that of a females. That is not how it works for women at all, even women who do engage in casual sex. Just lazy theory crafting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:05 PM
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Men only want children if they get a woman attached with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:03 PM
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You are in your mid 20’s, plenty of people do not have sex or romance in their teen years. The start of puberty is awkward for everyone, your life is just beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:34 AM
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Women are less interested in male validation than you seem to think. We have loads of friends and other relationships that men don’t bother to foster on their own, which is why they are more lonely without women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:21 PM
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It was mentioned as a green flag multiple times! Wish I could link it here, it was hilarious to read them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:48 AM
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Then pay for those services! It’s a win-win for everyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:30 AM
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We have lol. There was a thread on Reddit just the other day where men listed all those things plus “kindness” as if that isn’t the most important “green flag” from women. All the washing and cleaning and emotional tending is what men love about women. Plus some of her body parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:16 PM
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If you ask the men why they love the women in their lives, they list all the emotional and domestic labor they get from them. Or they list giving birth to his children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:10 PM
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Women don’t believe in the male loneliness epidemic. We know what it’s really about, and always have. We are not the perpetrators of that propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:06 PM
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Yeah, stands to reason that the ones who don’t want to date don’t struggle with dating but I guess that still needs to be said for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:23 PM
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There is no correlation between being an asshole and having confidence. Perhaps you are confusing “confidence” with “arrogance”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:32 AM
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Everyone struggles, even women, though men here balk at that suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:30 AM
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Men do not put women’s needs before their own, what planet are you from? Men want sexual and domestic labor from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 07:03 AM
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How would it be misogynistic for men to have their own social supports between each other? It would only benefit women if you would expect that emotional labor from someone other than women in your lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:54 AM
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It’s nothing to do with what we see, it’s how we feel and trust is a massive part of that for me personally. It’s why casual sex would never work to actually satisfy me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:45 PM
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There are men in here who act morally superior because they would fuck someone they don’t find attractive, as if it’s some kind of noble sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:22 PM
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Are you implying it’s unusual for men to lie in order to fuck a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:36 AM
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Clearly this is explained by men’s standards in those apps. They are willing to swipe on anyone they would only fuck once, and play a numbers game. Being more discerning would serve them better but they don’t want to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:05 AM
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Me too, love is not something you necessarily need to find in another person though. Companionship is important to humans and can exist outside of romantic love.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 11:17 PM
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It’s a play on words, but your opinion is your own. I’m sure I’d find plenty of your other opinions as disgusting as the one you seem to hold about dating. Dating is not a human right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 11:15 PM
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No, a lot of women in younger generations are dating each other. You are ignoring that nearly 30% of Gen Z women are lbgtq
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:54 PM
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There have always been segments of the male population that did not reproduce. This is true for every species on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:50 PM
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Actually you’re wrong. No one “deserves” to date anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:50 PM
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/611864/lgbtq-identification.aspx Women are nearly twice as likely as men to identify as LGBTQ+, 8.5% versus 4.7%. Bisexuality is the most common form of LGBTQ+ identification among women, while men are equally likely to identify as bisexual or gay. Women are more likely than men to have an LGBTQ+ identification in the three youngest generations, especially in Generation Z and the millennial generation. Close to three in 10 Gen Z women, 28.5%, identify as LGBTQ+, comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:49 PM
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Lots of those women are in queer relationships. The number of queer women have increased dramatically over the last ten years. Edit to add : Women are more likely than men to have an LGBTQ+ identification in the three youngest generations, especially in Generation Z and the millennial generation. Close to three in 10 Gen Z women, 28.5%, identify as LGBTQ+, compared with 10.6% of Gen Z men. Among millennials, 12.4% of women and 5.4% of men have an LGBTQ+ identification. https://news.gallup.com/po…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:02 PM
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That is their main goal though. They think relationships are a stepping stone to casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:42 PM
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They do like making babies, though. Not so interested in parenting all the time, but sure love making babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 04:05 PM
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Biphobia is rooted in misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:45 AM
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Modern feminism has nothing to do with an individuals biphobia.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:41 AM
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I assure you that we would not hate it one bit. We would prefer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:04 AM
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I say men should have the same attitude about women as women have about men. Totally agree. Would have major impacts on sexual assault prevalence and probably many other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:12 AM
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Males are wise to just sit back and enjoy the collapse. This part starts after all the complaining on the internet and hateful rhetoric?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:14 AM
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You first 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:58 PM
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Most women do not care if you do not approach them Most women would actually prefer not being approached by men at all. Edit- Also the way you describe reproduction is how it works for all females of every species on the planet. Females pick because they have the majority of the work in reproduction, whether laying eggs or having babies. Males are not involved in gestation or birth
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:56 PM
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No we are not forgetting them at all, not having the ability to see but still being born with eyeballs means that you have a processing disorder or a disability, NOT that you are intended to have a different sense as a replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:51 PM
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How does it benefit women that men take initiative? I have never met a woman who wants men to bottle up their feelings, generally every woman I know is begging the men in their lives to get therapy cause their feelings negatively impact everyone around them, so they certainly matter. You’re not describing things women actually want from men. None of these things benefit women in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:08 PM
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Modern medical care doesn’t really help in America compared to other industrialized nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:04 PM
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What gender roles for women benefit them that they are trying to keep?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:17 PM
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Women are forced to give birth in many countries, including America.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:02 PM
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It’s not a choice if you’re forced to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:51 PM
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Except if she stops “giving him sex”. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:05 PM
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Still can’t find anywhere in this thread that anyone made any claims against “all men” or whatever you’re on about. This was not a debate about the merits of feminism and I don’t know why you have veered into left field
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 02:08 AM
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Have you been reading this thread? All that there has been in here is complaining, and apparently women should reward men with sex for doing those jobs for some reason too, some claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:22 PM
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Just goes to show it’s not really about jobs or their danger, it’s the expectation of domestic labor and childbirth for women. Also that women are supposed to just do those things, no matter what men are doing or not doing. For free and without complaint Seems like women would rather be gainfully employed than take those risks with men anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:16 PM
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From another place on Reddit : He doesn’t know where the toilet paper is. He doesn’t know who the pediatrician is. He has never planned a meal, started a load of laundry, or thought about what time school pickup is. And somehow, none of that is considered a problem. Weaponized incompetence, or the practice of being so helpless that the labor simply falls on someone else, has long been a feature of domestic life. But Wharton economist Corinne Low has spent years researching the data proving what …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 09:21 PM
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Sure, let’s try and find a government who doesn’t want women to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:45 PM
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I thought the major complaint was that women don’t do dangerous jobs like men? Seems like they do, and since the majority of women who give birth don’t get paid for that job, and also will likely do it more than once, it definitely counts. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:44 PM
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Good luck with that!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:41 PM
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How about we outlaw impregnating people since one man could potentially impregnate multiple women a day? Seems like taking the bullets out of the gun is a more effective and efficient way to prevent something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:36 PM
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Exactly! Looks like you have discovered the reason women all over the earth are choosing to not have children! Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:51 PM
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I do not care how you vote. If you think you are going to claw back tax money from the US government, you’ve got to be a billionaire. You won’t find a country that doesn’t incentivize birth in some way, they want their new generation of taxpayers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:47 PM
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It’s not always a choice, they’ve even found a way to legally force a dead woman to incubate a pregnancy in Georgia. Wish you were correct though. It’s the only way to ensure bodily autonomy of women if it is a choice to remain pregnant or not. It simply is not the reality however.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:45 PM
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Comparing childbirth to a haircut is point blank ridiculous, self care is not the same as reproduction of the human body. Nowhere did anyone blame all men, unless you can remind me where you found this claim in this thread. Men and women participate in the misogyny that leads to these outcomes, but it is indeed misogyny that deserves some blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:15 PM
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Maybe it would be easier to care if you provided statistics for your argument. Here you go, pick some: https://www.bls.gov/iif/fatal-injuries-tables.htm As for pregnancy, it’s still one of the most dangerous jobs in America by comparison and it’s something women have to actually pay to do, they don’t get paid for having children. https://www.thebump.com/news/most-dangerous-jobs-childbirth Using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Powers highlights that maternal mortal…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:08 PM
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Giving birth is an unpaid job that’s more dangerous than many dangerous jobs that men do. In 2021, 33 women died out of every 100,000 live births in the US, up from 23.8 in 2020. That rate was more than double for black women, who were nearly three times more likely to die than white women, according to the CDC. Compared to other countries, the maternal mortality rate was twice as high in the US than in the UK, Germany and France; and three times higher than in Spain, Italy, Japan and several ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:30 PM
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Birth is more dangerous than most dangerous jobs done by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:19 PM
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Feel free to find another country whose tax law you approve of. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:36 PM
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Men don’t need romantic or sexual relationships to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:57 AM
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Anything that’s born with eyes is a “visual creature”. Another synonym would be “superficial”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:29 AM
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Womb envy is what you are describing and have a problem with. Men do not have to carry children, and are almost completely unnecessary for the gestation and birth of children. “Biology” - in the words of all the male bioessentialists You need men to squirt once and you need a woman to carry the baby to term for live birth for 9 months and to feed the child for far longer. The woman’s whole body is a requirement for over a year at least. The cost of reproduction is not the same for the sexes and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:12 AM
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Research disagrees with this opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:59 AM
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They have to establish a hierarchy because everything is competition with them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:23 PM
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The random capital letters tells me all I need to know, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:48 PM
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I never claimed men don’t care about women’s orgasm, they do, insofar that they are the ones giving them to her, as men find use of toys emasculating. Men do however debate the “importance of the female orgasm” https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224499.2013.838934 Results indicated that, for both male and female participants, the most common concern regarding lack of female orgasm in a partnered context focused on the negative impact this might have on the male partner's ego. Male and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:10 PM
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No one made that claim It’s not mutually satisfying. Which is why women will have one instance of casual sex, realize it’s completely unsatisfying and never do it again. Hence the overwhelming number of women who are regretful of their casual sex experiences. Sex can be mutual and extremely disappointing because men think that sex ends when their orgasm does, usually way before the woman gets an orgasm herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:03 PM
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Otherwise yeah, I agree women have been socially conditioned to be with men long term and living together. Marriage was created to bind women to men as a form of ownership. See coverture. Being heterosexual doesn’t necessarily make long term cohabitation healthy. It’s by far one of the riskiest things a woman can do, is live with or have sex with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:55 PM
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Or any of the women who have been involved in any of the multitudes of studies that ask them if they are regularly pleased by male partners. Or any of the men in the multitudes of studies who admit they focus on their own orgasm. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8847982/ https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/26318318251362554 https://www.rutgers.edu/news/orgasm-gap-continues-women-expecting-less-during-intimacy https://archive.news.ufl.edu/articles/2018/05/the-orgasm-gap-picking-up-wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:49 PM
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The agreement of having sex doesn’t ensure it’s mutually satisfying. One party is allowed to be disappointed and have regret when their lust isn’t satisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:42 PM
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Forced penetrative sexual contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:34 PM
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Or maybe our anatomy is different and serves more than one purpose that lesbians have figured out, and that’s why lesbian sex is as satisfying to women as hetero sex is for men. Maybe it’s just that men would rather focus on their own orgasm instead of pleasing their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:31 PM
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Could you quote it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:18 PM
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This is a well studied phenomenon that only affects straight women who sleep with men. Your ad hominem is silly since you can’t know who I sleep with. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgasm_gap
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:18 PM
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There is no mutual exchange if one person is left unsatisfied. Mutual exchange implies both people are satisfied, and lust is satisfied by orgasm, we established that. Straight women don’t orgasm during penetrative sex with men. I don’t know why you involved rape, I was waiting for that to be clear but I think now maybe you just wanted to use it as a deflection, if not just to talk about rape for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:05 PM
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You can want sex and regret it because it was unsatisfying. Wanting it doesn’t mean it’s good. You’re the only one who is talking about rape for some reason when we are talking about pleasure during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:46 PM
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None of anything you posted claims that rape is committed by a small group of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:44 PM
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That actually has been used in a court of law to excuse men of rape. Along with the victims clothing, the victims perceived wetness was used as a way to claim she enjoyed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:29 PM
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Where does it say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:27 PM
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They don’t https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2023/04/19/casual-sex-one-night-stands-decline-women-heres-why/11686614002/ In 2021, research from Rutgers University-New Brunswick showed that casual sex has steadily decreased in recent years. Though many would suspect this was due to the pandemic, the trend actually pre-dates quarantines and shutdowns. While factors like living at home with their parents and playing video games ranked as some of the reasons why young men were havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:24 PM
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Can you provide any proof that they do? Cause women do not engage in casual sex at the rates men do, and women who do engage in casual sex almost always regret it. https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2018/07/Kennair-Wyckoff-Asao-Buss-Bendixen-2018-Why-women-regret-more.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:34 PM
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*moot Points are moot, not mute. Sex can be a mutual exchange but it’s rarely a satisfying endeavor for straight women who do not reach climax during penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:31 PM
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None of this claims that rape is committed by a small percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:30 PM
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Lust is satisfied with orgasm Men do not give women orgasms, and especially straight women do not get to have them during sex with men There is no mutual exchange in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:52 PM
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Where does it say it’s a crime committed by few men who regularly rape the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:50 PM
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He just basically wants to make women economically dependent on men again so they can have sex and make babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:31 AM
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Please provide where you find those statistics on rape
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:31 AM
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If they say that, then it would be easy to provide a link. Sounds like something you made up, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:41 AM
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That’s certainly an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:23 AM
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If you read the article, maybe you would find out. Similarly, 19% of Gen Z women said that they thought a man who stays at home to look after his children is “less of a man,” compared to 28% of men in the same generational cohort. That 9 percentage point gap is more than double the gap for Millennials and Gen X when asked that same question. Tate, the British-American former kickboxer who has 8.7 million followers on the social media platform X, is facing charges in Romania, which he denies, of …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:33 PM
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Do you have any sources besides your feelings on the matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:33 PM
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Yeah, I replied to the wrong comment. Is it that hard to tell?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:13 AM
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capping out at $50k What century are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:53 AM
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No they aren’t. Just because men will sleep with women they find unattractive doesn’t mean they are virtuous in doing that, especially if women are evil and manipulative for doing the exact same thing. Someone in another thread mentioned this and they were right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:02 AM
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It may be lower now but that isn’t even the strongest correlation to anxiety, which is my point Men have found a fun new thing to blame so that’s what you focus on. I insist that you try to speak to a doctor about this, you’d be laughed out of the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:48 AM
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Here, educate yourself! https://www.americanhairloss.org/mens-hair-loss/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:37 AM
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I don’t care if you guys are bald, I only date women now as a bisexual 🤣🤣🤣 Just saying it doesn’t help with the anxiety from my experience with friends. Lots of really young men are going bald and freaking out about it. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:31 AM
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women are still not filling. That part of your baseless claim is baseless. Women’s participation in the infrastructure and construction workforce is rising, reaching over 11% to 14% nationwide, the highest in two decades, with over 1.3 million women now employed in these sectors. Driven by labor shortages, increased investment, and targeted recruitment, women are increasingly filling roles in trades, project management, and executive leadership, with women holding 20% of leadership positions in …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:03 AM
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It’s not the facts, it’s a tenuous connection Clearly you are cherry picking. Do you know what excess testosterone causes? male pattern baldness Which is increasing in younger males https://www.belgraviacentre.com/blog/hair-loss-more-common-in-young-men-than-ever-079 The results show the exponential rise in the number of male hair loss sufferers between the ages of 21 and 30 and thereafter patient numbers gradually decline with age. “I’d say at least 3 in 5 of our clients are in their early 20s,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:55 PM
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There’s fewer women all the time who are interested in that. It’s not smart from almost any angle unless you are certain about who you are having children with. This is why 18-35 year old women are no longer having children. It’s dangerous to be dependent on anyone, and especially in a world where everyone is in debt and work is perilous and unstable. Women are heavily penalized for having children, especially in the workforce. Divorce also leaves women in worse position than before, which is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:47 PM
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And apparently by your own admission here, only 23% of men with low testosterone will have anxiety. That means the majority of men with low testosterone will not have anxiety symptoms. You’re just proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:14 PM
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You have a source for that baseless claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:05 PM
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That’s not even in the top most likely causes though, and it’s definitely not the first thing that needs to be addressed in order to treat anxiety. Men like to blame their testosterone because they only think of it as “man-hormone” and as soon as they lose libido, that’s their main concern. Blaming testosterone is bad science, it’s terribly reductive and unhelpful. You will be told the exact same thing if you go to your doctor with those concerns and try to blame your testosterone. https://www.d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:00 PM
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That is not the most common cause of either of those things. There’s a shitload of men injecting themselves with testosterone and they are clearly the most insecure and anxious people you’ll find anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:52 PM
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Not nearly as much as men do and there are studies on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:48 PM
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Men actually get their families killed because they underestimate danger. https://nypost.com/2023/10/20/why-men-dont-survive-hurricanes-extreme-weather/ In disaster sociology studies, researchers have found women taking on the role of protector and trying to gather people and direct them into a shelter, McClain said. On the other hand, men are more inclined to expose themselves to the threat and wait a little bit longer to protect themselves. To help protect men, be they fathers, sons, uncles or…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 07:45 PM
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New phenomenon? You must be new here on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 09:45 AM
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That’s irrelevant. The jobs they do don’t require their penis so they don’t need to be done by men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 09:40 AM
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No, it’s not the lack of testosterone. No one was talking about “lust”, you’ve got an oversimplified idea of what that hormone does, obviously. Have no idea what you mean about prostitution, that doesn’t change anything for hormones. The sex obsession is related to the testosterone, sure. But the neediness is due to a lack of emotional maturity and introspection.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 09:27 AM
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Why is it hateful to want to be individuals instead of in a relationship? How is that hateful? The men who try to remove rights from women because women don’t want to sleep with them are more hateful
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:21 PM
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Infrastructure would not collapse without men. The majority of men are not in professions that maintain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:05 PM
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You’re incorrect. Gen Z is more misogynistic than boomers. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2024/feb/01/gen-z-boys-and-men-more-likely-than-baby-boomers-to-believe-feminism-harmful-says-poll Boys and men from generation Z are more likely than older baby boomers to believe that feminism has done more harm than good, according to research that shows a “real risk of fractious division among this coming generation”. On feminism, 16% of gen Z males felt it had done more harm than good. Among over-60s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:03 PM
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It would be to the benefit of everyone if this was actually true, but it’s clearly not reality. If it were, there wouldn’t be such a large cohort of men trying to roll back women’s rights in order to make us economically dependent on them again so that they get to have sex with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:12 PM
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What are “male resources”? What if women just stop producing males?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:09 PM
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Aww someone called you names? Did you lose any rights when they did that? The rape laws vary by country but usually fall under sexual assault laws, so your argument is mostly semantic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:08 PM
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Yeah, that’s why they call it an invasion and blame the expansionist country for violating peoples (or countries) sovereignty. It’s a war now because they are fighting back, women are not trying to remove the rights of men in the same way the men do to women. We are still choosing to not engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:06 PM
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Those things absolutely matter to women. lol Everyone wants to be with someone they are attracted to Without attraction, you have nothing Attraction doesn’t necessarily mean or involve superficial looks for women like it does for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:13 PM
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Earning a wage is better than being dependent on someone you cannot trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:20 PM
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The gender stuff is a result of the economics. Women don’t want to be economically dependent on men in uncertain times now that we finally have the ability and rights to provide for ourselves. This seems to be inconvenient for men’s pleasure, so it’s being framed as a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:19 PM
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Yes totally. It’s the lack of testosterone that makes you guys sex obsessed and needy. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:13 PM
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How is it a “war” if women are choosing separatism? It’s more like trying to disengage from the people who seek to overpower you by limiting your human rights. Can’t really be a “war” if only one side is under attack and at risk of losing autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:25 AM
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Just because you don’t encounter this sentiment regularly doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. There’s a lot of money behind removing women’s rights, and especially in the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 05:00 PM
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Yep that is exactly how you state a boundary. Pushing a boundary is when a man doesn’t take that “no” or “stop” as a final answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:36 PM
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Does sending nudes mean you’re into porn? So taking pictures of your dick is also porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:10 PM
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Incorrect. Pushing for sex is coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:09 PM
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They get annoyed that they have to ask permission to do something like kiss or touch you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:00 PM
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In most cases yes. For instance, if there is a girl who likes you back and you start kissing each other, but try to place your hands somewhere she does not want them to be, chances are she will tell you to stop. This means you keep your hands to yourself while you kiss that girl or you will lose the privilege of kissing her altogether. Escalating with someone who is already showing signs of interest with you is not pushing a boundary as long as they are clearly communicating with you about what …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:46 PM
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Because hopefully if you are escalating with someone, they have not openly stated that they want you to stop escalating. Escalation happens during mutual attraction. A boundary would be someone stating they do not want to escalate. Pushing a boundary would be going against someone’s wishes and just doing whatever you want regardless of their boundary
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:15 PM
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That’s not “pushing boundaries” Boundaries are not meant to be pushed You’re describing escalation. A boundary would be a woman saying she doesn’t want to escalate, and you would be pushing by doing it anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:11 PM
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So it’s humiliating to be dominated but only if you’re a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:16 AM
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No I didn’t, I don’t agree men are more affected by this than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:57 AM
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No actually she’s correct, this is true for women as well. Majority of women are just having sex later than their predecessors.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:36 AM
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“Sexual distribution”? The more women that stop partnering with men, the less abuse they face. 9 times out of 10 it’s a close person to the victim who is at fault. Removing that variable by avoiding romantic relationships is a great way to avoid that sort of abuse. The majority of sexual assault is not caused by random horny men, its always the entitled ones in your home or vicinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:09 AM
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But they are underage women, as I keep seeing people call them when they reference the Epstein files. They aren’t children, nooo they are “underage women”. Makes it easier to justify and excuse the men for all the coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:02 AM
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Sounds like a perfect plan! I don’t know a single liberal woman who wants to be with a conservative man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:22 PM
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What a funny leap in logic! I actually laughed Women are choosing better, they are choosing to avoid men altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:57 PM
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Porn brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:50 PM
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This sounds like the same reasoning for calling all women whores and gold diggers. People will generalize and there is nothing you can do about it. The right person won’t do that to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:14 AM
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What welfare state?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:20 AM
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Her point is that women know this and do not get black out drunk in public. Most women are sexually assaulted by relatives when they are incredibly young or by their boyfriends who do not take no for an answer. The idea men have of rape is not the reality for women. There is no crazed men in alleyways, it’s always just some guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:11 PM
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You can disagree but there are statistics that show it’s true and healthier for women to be on their own, which is also why divorced or widowed women are rarely interested in repartnering with men. Even girl children excel in gender segregated classes but boys do not. Modern women do not want to be married young or have babies anymore, and that’s why the majority of us have prioritized our own financial and personal success over romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:09 AM
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And then they will blame her for his actions every fuckin time but take zero personal responsibility in their own lives. Hard to empathize with psychos. I am so sorry to hear about your friend and I hope she recovers fully and quickly, no one deserves to be harmed or killed for rejecting a man’s advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:05 AM
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Motherhood is something all women are capable of. Whether they are good or not is not the question Not all men are capable of leadership
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:22 PM
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Right but you would probably have to pay those people. Unless you mean men will need a nanny state
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:20 AM
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The mom is not included and you have to pay her for the baby. Since you didn’t know about surrogacy, maybe you misunderstand how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:19 AM
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What a hilarious fictional scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:17 AM
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Like okay, remove the pain and suffering of childbirth and pregnancy from women, I am sure there are some women who find it a breeze, but I doubt there would be a shortage of women who are relieved at the possibility. Unless the idea is that there would be no women? Then maybe the men will fuck robots. But they truly never consider that raising the children wouldn’t be done by the state since they are against any help from the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:12 AM
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So wait, men can choose if their bodies can procreate? Sounds like you found a solution!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:40 AM
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It’s meant to be punitive somehow, but I can’t figure it out
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:39 AM
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No it’s not, at all. You think all men are good leaders?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:18 AM
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Biology has to do with initiating? I don’t think so, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:18 AM
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Turns out liars lie, news at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:58 PM
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Because that’s biology lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:38 PM
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How would you know I don’t initiate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:47 PM
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It was definitely a joke on my part, but he’s referring to how women are succeeding in life financially and professionally while men are struggling in education etc Women are buying their own homes while single at higher rates than men, earning more degrees than men do on average and are enrolled in technician training increasingly. More women are prioritizing their own financial success because there are fewer barriers preventing them as there were previously. Like requiring marriage for a line…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:55 PM
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The shackles of marriage! Ironic since men used to call us the “ball and chain”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:45 PM
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They never do though. Probably ruins the power fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:41 PM
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It’s also based in reality for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:41 PM
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She is correct. Women are not sheep or children. We do not want to be led anywhere by a man. Men don’t make good leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:05 PM
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I think he is implying that women don’t know what they want and that’s why it’s okay to try to convince them to do what he wants to do instead of what they “think” they want. She should make sacrifices because he is “right” and dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:03 AM
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Money is the reason those men get away with that. The same reason they get away with regular rape and child rape and murder, if you have enough money you can do whatever you want. The majority of women would not be interested, but you’ll always be able to afford someone who will, if you have enough money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:01 AM
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No, you keep trying to talk to her about the opinions of women when she’s discussing gay male beauty standards. Men are not expected to be in shape like women, hairless like women, or dainty and petite like women. Just because straight men find muscles and tanned oily skin attractive doesn’t mean gay men or straight women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:42 PM
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You have seriously never heard of “bears”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:40 PM
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What is confusing to you? Compare the list of standards with one the majority of men have for women; it’s the opposite. Slim, hairless body, flat stomach, petite. Just because it’s not appealing to straight men doesn’t mean it’s not considered a beauty standard to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:38 PM
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Never attacked the op. Called out a concern troll Are you aware of what a personal attack is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:12 PM
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More personal attacks? Jesus you’re uncreative and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:52 AM
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Man, you guys normally claim the opposite on here! Wish I could pin this comment somewhere cause I’m sure I’ll quote you in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:18 PM
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My face is not pink and not enraged 🤷‍♀️ What a weird comment to make lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:17 PM
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You don’t even have to check his post history. It’s very clearly a classic case of concern trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:53 PM
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I love this version, I want to be in this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:50 PM
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We do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:45 PM
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This is such a trope at this point. Women’s sexuality doesn’t work like men’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:03 PM
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Most people don’t though. That is a strange thing to claim. They may judge you as socially awkward or weird but it’s never been a moral failing to be a virgin, unless you partner that with hostility and resentment and hateful rhetoric, like often found online communities that target women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:02 PM
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Bingo! 10/10 no notes, couldn’t have said it any better than you just did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:54 PM
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It’s also not misandry to want men to actually take care of the children they father. It’s a part of being an adult who has sex, if you father offspring. It’s a lot of nonsense blaming the courts which no longer enforce outdated gender roles unless you live in a red state. The majority of men are able to choose to be parents, and they choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:28 PM
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If you actually read my link it does go over the fact that there are a few Republican states that still discriminate against the father. Almost all other states do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:22 PM
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Yes they are frequently told it’s not worth it by other men Not the lawyers, the mothers or the judges. It’s only coming from other men. Take some personal accountability if you are going to spread your genetic material around. Stop blaming single mothers for raising bastard children that men abandon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:11 PM
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https://legaljobs.io/blog/child-custody-statistics/ Parents settle 90% of child custody disputes without a judge’s ruling. The United States has about 12.9 million custodial parents. On average, custodial parents receive $3,431 annually in child support. 40% of US states aim to give equal custody time to both parents. 74.3% of custodial fathers have full-time jobs. In 51% of custody cases, both parents agree that the mother should have custody. 41.6% of custodial mothers are 40 years old or olde…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:06 PM
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How many court cases require a judge to settle custody? I’ll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:59 PM
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What evidence? Please do not provide nonsense from dating sites that rely almost entirely on selfies. Also those women are here in this thread if you care to look. The ones you say “never show up” are here right now telling you guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:54 PM
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And you act like this is beneficial to women but it’s not, and leads to a lot of sexual violence and murder against us. Yes, some women uphold patriarchy. We are all indoctrinated by it in society, it takes work to move away from it. It’s not your virginity that is often repulsive, it’s the lack of social skills and priorities revolving around your genitals and how seriously this seems to affect the world view of whoever is self-identifying as a forever alone man. Something you will have to unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:48 PM
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I never said it was productive, I just said you’d have to be simple minded or blind to not be aware of the current implications for our futures.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:39 PM
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I think so far it’s only obvious to the women, cause we know where this narrative comes from, also it’s not a terribly creative repackaging. Men are jerking off about it and trying to ask how he is wrong though, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:38 PM
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What makes you believe you understand anything about my “outcome”? Are you projecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:35 PM
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Because the claim is a false one. There is no US state where this occurs. https://legalusa.org/child-custody-laws-in-the-usa/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:18 PM
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Where the fuck do you guys come up with this stuff? This is not true either and is completely made up male victimhood bullshit. https://legalusa.org/child-custody-laws-in-the-usa/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:06 PM
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Yes actually. Because even if a woman (like myself) finds some traits attractive over others, they don’t always have bearing on whether or not I will date someone. You could be an attractive, tall emotionally immature Neanderthal and I am not going to overlook the the last two things in favor of the first two things. Being attracted to a physical quality isn’t nearly as important to women as men want desperately to believe. Lots of women prefer short chubby men, I know several.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 06:52 AM
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benefit of the doubt in terms of primary custody Another myth; men do not opt for custody and settle out of court 90% of the time. They are choosing to not parent. Women understand this as we all know someone who we call a friend or family member who has been stuck dealing with a deadbeat. You are so right that the cost of raising kids is often why women end up in poverty. Even though a quarter of children grow up with a single mother, redpill men love to blame them for everything from crime sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 06:17 AM
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So, I have sympathy for women who will naturally find themselves attracted to men who are of higher status than themselves - with such men being limited in supply. I could just say, “lower your standards.” But I also know that this will likely lead to resentment if you feel as though you could do better - regardless of whether that feeling is rooted in reality. This is all just redpill nonsense. Women are not heartbroken about losing “high value men” not marrying them. Women all over the world e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:26 AM
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Certainly, he thinks we are distraught and enduring something we struggle to overcome instead of reaching our sexual peak. As he dates women young enough to be his daughter. It’s just repackaged redpill nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:20 AM
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Ah, there it is. We knew it the whole time! A concern troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:16 AM
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Neither. How did you come up with that? Clearly I was explaining why this exists. I don’t give a shit about those terms or anyone who says them because I think the whole thing is pathetic. The whole idea that masculinity is found in women’s pussies is silly. Men would benefit from abandoning this idea. We attack women for completely different reasons even if men don’t think they are equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:02 AM
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Men here for some reason think fuck boys are inherently dishonest. All the ones I have known were upfront about their intentions but enjoyed making women cum. That is sometimes all it takes, but again, honesty cause safety is usually a priority for women. Also, orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:59 AM
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Pray those women who overcome their waning fertility to provide us with hope for a future
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:49 AM
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He is concern trolling redpill talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:45 AM
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So, any literate human who reads or watches the news.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:42 AM
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I’ve only ever heard from middle aged women is that everything gets so much easier. You are easier on yourself, more confident, care less what people think. I’ve been told by multiple women that they stop people pleasing behaviors etc. Menopause is literally the only complaint, most of them aren’t interested in dating seriously either if they aren’t already married.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:37 AM
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Yeah because you are married It is completely bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:15 AM
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Except this guy is explaining why he can’t commit and it sounds as emotionally damaged as the women he is describing supposedly are. Stunning really.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:13 AM
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Don’t you see how hurtful and difficult you are /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:04 AM
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Isn’t this the same idea you are saying women are damaged for doing? Being “jaded” means exactly what you have written here. Or am missing what you mean by women age 30 and up being distraught and in crisis?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:02 AM
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Such a tired myth that women take everything in a divorce. It never works like that. The same way he “never saw it coming”, repeating these statements don’t make them reality. It’s not an excuse no matter what to make it someone else’s problem, but it’s easier to act out I guess and blame someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:57 AM
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No one wants to have sex with a liar who says he is one thing but is not that. That is coercive deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:30 AM
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Are you asking me? Not sure who you are replying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:08 PM
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The average
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:08 PM
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This is a worldwide phenomenon, but that is true. Still, men on average have more sexual partners than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:32 PM
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Correct. That is how statistics work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:25 PM
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At the high end of the statistic perhaps, the worldwide average of all people is like 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:20 PM
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Men’s masculinity is currency in patriarchy. That is why it’s always at risk of being “taken” or “injured” by a random attack. Femininity is not really valued in the same way and doesn’t operate the same way for women. This is the whole basis of the fragile masculinity concept and why it’s considered “fragile”. Insults are designed to attack the heart of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:28 PM
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That’s not correct. Men on average have more sexual partners than women, and this is worldwide. Men report an average of roughly 8 to 14 lifetime sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:45 PM
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So you admit it’s common for men to lie in order to use women’s bodies for purely selfish reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:41 PM
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Bigots rely on misleading statistics and incomplete data, and revert to emotion when you engage with those statistics with context that is required to understand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:39 PM
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This is not a common experience for women at all. The majority of women have 4.2 - 7 sexual partners over her entire lifetime, and Gen Z seems to have less than previous generations. This is male fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:30 PM
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A lot of women find incompatibility to be unattractive even if they find the person to be attractive or appealing. Men don’t seem to be concerned by this though, and will overlook incompatibilities as long as they find the woman attractive or “fuckable”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 09:39 PM
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In the “natural state” rape may be common but so is exile and murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 09:19 PM
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Sure. Explain how historically the nuclear family (which majority are) is matriarchal in nature? How does women in leadership for 20 years negate centuries of restriction? And as for reproductive rights which are about far more than abortions are leading to the death of living, tax paying women for unviable fetuses, are men’s dead bodies used to incubate babies? Men “maturing” would be a sight to see but in today’s societal structure is not a requirement. Female attributes are specifically demon…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:32 PM
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You keep substituting reality with your feelings and I can’t help you with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:08 PM
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I used google which included AI since you are too lazy to look these random queries up yourself. Wikipedia is not ai, though. Did you manage to read that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:04 PM
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Sure, I’ll Google it for you. Key Aspects of Patriarchy Effects on Women: Women often face lower wages, limited leadership opportunities, gender-based violence, and restricted reproductive rights. It reinforces domestic, subordinate roles for women. Effects on Men: While benefiting from structural privilege, men may face pressure to conform to rigid standards of masculinity, such as suppressing emotions, demonstrating strength, and maintaining control. Types/Structure: It operates on various lev…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:28 PM
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Patriarchy is a social system where men hold primary power, dominating political, economic, and family spheres. It enforces strict gender roles, often leading to oppression, limited autonomy, and economic disparity for women. While empowering men, it also creates harmful, rigid masculinity standards. Characteristics include male-centeredness, obsession with control, and systemic, rather than individual, bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:09 PM
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Oppressive since the autonomy under patriarchy is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:08 PM
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The clitoris is an organ that exists purely for pleasure and has no other function, so it surely doesn’t exist because it’s meant to be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:34 PM
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You think it’s a conspiracy that we “don’t need men anymore” but not a conspiracy that we needed you guys to be fully autonomous adults in society? Wow It’s almost like it was oppressive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:48 AM
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I could have written this to women as a woman. I had to double take, bravo!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:02 AM
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Clitoral stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:24 PM
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Sex has nothing to do with status for women, but it does for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:13 AM
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It’s a deliberate effort to disregard our hormones and the fluctuations because they find them inconvenient. Not just in the bedroom, but in medicine and everywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:09 AM
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They are in the sense some men (more than before) are being excluded from it entirely. Women who engage in penetrative sex with other women don’t experience the orgasm gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:04 AM
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/223368340_Defining_HeteroSex_How_imperative_is_the_coital_imperative Consequently, some women believe that remaining single is the best alternative to avoid responding sexually to anyone and, thus, to ignore the problem [16,37]. In other cases, women continue to engage in penetrative sexual acts, despite the pain and physical-emotional consequences, to maintain their status as a desirable woman or caring heterosexual partner [16]. ...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:58 AM
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/223368340_Defining_HeteroSex_How_imperative_is_the_coital_imperative Consequently, some women believe that remaining single is the best alternative to avoid responding sexually to anyone and, thus, to ignore the problem [16,37]. In other cases, women continue to engage in penetrative sexual acts, despite the pain and physical-emotional consequences, to maintain their status as a desirable woman or caring heterosexual partner [16]. ...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:57 AM
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You think women are choosing to forgo orgasms because they want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:53 AM
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Do you have any source for that? It’s called “coital imperative” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coital_imperative The coital imperative of mixed-sex couples has often been credited as a major contributor to the orgasm gap; multiple studies on sexual behavior and attitudes have concluded that many of these couples prioritize penetration and the men's satisfaction (since women lack vaginal sensitivity), suggesting that this is a social and cultural issue.[8]
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:39 AM
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It’s got nothing to do with criminality as we know that the rape and abuse of wives hasn’t always been illegal. It’s got way more to do with harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:33 AM
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You’re * And no, I am not. https://sanctuaryforfamilies.org/femicide-epidemic/ In the United States, femicide — the gender-based killing of women — is often thought of as an issue affecting low-income countries. This could not be further from the truth; a study on female homicide victimization among 25 populous high-income countries found that 70% of all cases occurred in the U.S. To put that into perspective, on a global scale, the U.S. ranks 34th for intentional female homicides at a rate of 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:05 AM
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Do you see women attacking random men because she hates men? Or trying to kill men because they don’t give her attention? No man is being sexually assaulted or targeted for existing as a man. It’s almost like the levels of hatred and violence don’t match at all between misogyny and misandry, making them extremely unequal and not like each other in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:33 AM
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Statistics say differently. It’s only straight women who have a fraction of the orgasms as everyone else. This of course varies with age and other factors but dos not seem to affect lesbian orgasms in the same way. The orgasm gap between genders is substantial, with reported differences ranging from 25% to 52%.12-20 For example, a recent study found that 82% of men reported orgasming during their most recent casual sexual encounter compared with only 32% of women in the study. https://pmc.ncbi.n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:24 AM
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I suppose we would have to ask them. “Men only want one thing” has been said for generations for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:33 PM
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Men don’t routinely lie to women in order to fuck them? Pretty sure she’s right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:50 PM
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Oh sorry yeah for some reason the comment posted before I was finished, might have fat fingered it. Not annoyed at all! I think it’s fair to ask
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:21 AM
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It’s just not centered around the penis and penetration so it’s not given the same or equal importance sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:14 AM
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Every woman is different but clitoral stimulation is the way that most women reach orgasm. It’s not really that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:09 AM
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The main organ that gives women pleasure is relegated to foreplay instead of the focus is the point she is trying to make. Women’s pleasure is a literal afterthought or written off as an optional chore. If you rarely had an orgasm every time you had sex, you wouldn’t be as interested in sex. It’s very unsatisfying to get all riled up and then never satisfied. The clitoris exists for women’s pleasure alone and it’s not always included in a sexual encounter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:03 AM
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Explains why they feel personally attacked when the inverse is discussed and women are saying they’ve decentered men and how it’s improved their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 12:23 PM
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Yes that’s my point, some women find men attractive when they are not conventionally so. We are talking about faces and not bodies at the moment because you were the one who changed the subject. The girlies aren’t after Brody for his body. My point is that women find unconventional men attractive. Men who do not have symmetrical features or masculine jawlines. Men also like conventionally attractive men. Men don’t really like unconventionally attractive men (by women’s standards) which is why ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:42 PM
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I was one of them for nearly 8 years. In some places that’s a common law marriage but we never put it on paperwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:19 PM
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We do, and now no one is having sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:18 PM
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Yeah, we care about other things like long term investment and loyalty because our risk as women is pregnancy and birth which can be life threatening and disfiguring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:15 PM
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You guys are almost always talking about sexual acts, don’t think that is what she meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:13 PM
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This is more of a male fantasy than a female one. I don’t think women dream about sleeping with men who have had countess lovers or was an asshole before her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:13 PM
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I agree with all of this. precisely what women mean when we talk about “the little things”, the thoughtful things we want to be unique and tailored to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:24 PM
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There is a significant amount who cheer about little boys being raped by a hot teacher cause sex is always good if it happens to men and the woman is hot. Sex is always bad for women, unless it’s happening with “him” whatever man is involved, he is the main character, as it were.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:19 PM
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Not in any way equal to “whore”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:15 PM
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Totally explains why women go bonkers for Adrian Brody and Matt Smith, etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:09 PM
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Would you like me to quote more of the article for you? We can start from the top Origins and Historical Context of the Idiom “arm candy” The phrase “arm candy” is a popular idiom used to describe an attractive person who accompanies someone to social events or gatherings. The term has been around for quite some time, but its exact origins are not entirely clear. Some suggest that the phrase may have originated in the fashion industry, where models and celebrities were often seen on the arms of …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:00 PM
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Marriage, children, family. Basically what’s in the vows you say when you get married
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:57 AM
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Good thing anecdotes don’t really apply to the world at large and there are dozens of studies that show how the majority of people interact with their peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:59 AM
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Ahh mmkay, if you say so. https://crossidiomas.com/arm-candy/ In some cases, “arm candy” may refer specifically to a woman who is seen as an accessory for her male partner. This usage can be considered derogatory and objectifying, reducing the woman’s value to her physical appearance alone. On the other hand, some people may use “arm candy” more broadly to refer to any attractive companion regardless of gender or sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:53 AM
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That’s hilarious. That is not at all what the claim was.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:48 AM
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In the way we have been discussing; as social currency. It’s not really something you can deny when it exists in the culture we live in, fucking women and as many as you can is a positive thing for men to try to do. Even you compared it to a resource such as money, so I am not trying to imply you don’t value sex, just that you don’t see it as a social currency. To use your own analogy, some rich people flaunt their wealth and others take a more minimalistic approach. One does not negate the exis…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:47 AM
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Arm candy is about men? And what about trophy wives? More women propaganda I assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:34 AM
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Then you don’t value sex or sexual conquest in that way. That does not mean that is not a popular way for men to bond with other men. If you read the study it’s not even about men bragging about all of their sexual conquest, sometimes it’s just retelling stories of hookups. Are you trying to say that you don’t know men who gossip about who they fuck? I find that hard to believe. Not everyone may do it but it’s not an unpopular form of “locker room talk”, in fact it’s cited as harmless vulgar boy…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:33 AM
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No one said you’re showing her off. It’s the whole idea behind arm candy. You’re the one who gets to “have” her, so whether you show her off or hide her away from sight, she’s an object that you possess and control. This is the envy of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:22 AM
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Studies show differently. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23658253/ Do men base their self-worth on relationships less than do women? In an assessment of lay beliefs, men and women alike indicated that men are less reliant on relationships as a source of self-worth than are women (Study 1). Yet relationships may make a different important contribution to the self-esteem of men. Men reported basing their self-esteem on their own relationship status (whether or not they were in a relationship) mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:16 AM
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The way men are portrayed on television is for the male gaze though, not the female gaze. Men prefer to see muscular men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:16 AM
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Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:12 AM
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That isn’t what sex positivity is, if they only think of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:10 AM
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Some men only value sex, and will sleep with whoever they can because they derive value from the social approval from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:09 AM
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I actually looked this up recently, and I’ll post here what I posted in another comment in a different thread : https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/men-do-housework-women-still-do-more-rcna216748 Men spent an average of 100 minutes per day in 2024 doing household activities such as laundry and cleaning, an increase of 20 minutes from 2003 and the most of any of the years captured in the American Time Use Survey. But the gap is closing, slowly. In 2003, the first year of the survey, women worke…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:10 AM
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Men want to be desired AND fuck people they aren’t attracted to because “sex is sex”, except also men need sex for intimacy and love, but sex also doesn’t mean anything to them emotionally when they fuck prostitutes. Women also want to be desired and cared about for more than their holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:44 AM
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its not false at all. A quarter of all children in America grow up without a father, but this is a worldwide phenomenon https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2019/11/the-two-extremes-of-fatherhood.html When it comes to living with kids, there are two extremes of fatherhood — “solo” dads who appear to raise their children by themselves and “absent” dads who appear to have little or nothing to do with parenting. These two types of fathers may seem like polar opposites. Yet, they have many charact…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:14 PM
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People dont “get sex” they participate in it usually with one or more people, and women suffer more risks during and after sex than men do which is why we’re not as willing to sleep with anything or anyone like men are. Women also don’t have an orgasm every time they have sex with a man, unlike men who cum 97% of the time. Probably explains why it’s the best time ever to be a lesbian, at least they give each other orgasms on a much more frequent basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:55 PM
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Seems like they are done with settling for the most part. Isn’t that why you guys post here regularly complaining about women’s standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:45 PM
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Give us an example of what you consider a reputable source.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:29 PM
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They do, there’s a large majority of them who change personalities entirely once you have a baby. I have seen this happen to my friends. They feel like they “got you” now, and you are stuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:08 AM
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I think marriage is an overrated tradition but I am a millennial so.. I don’t think that means they are single even if they aren’t married eventually. The majority of people end up partnered even if for a short time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:49 AM
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No one made that claim. It’s a determination made after getting to know someone, not a sixth sense. You get what you give I suppose 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:46 AM
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Gamifying the apps didn’t work in men’s favor, maybe it’s time to stop playing that little game and try something new.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:42 AM
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It’s a common experience for women to be lied to by horny, manipulative and duplicitous men just so that those men can use their genitalia. Women aren’t going around lying about their intentions and exposing men to diseases for their own pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:42 AM
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It can’t be any of those things cause they don’t make women the villain.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:39 AM
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70% of men end up married. They can’t all be the top 10%
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:21 AM
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This is not something that is only on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:07 AM
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Do you have an example of this propaganda targeting boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:06 AM
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I agree that it is unfair to receive blame for something you truly have no control over, absolutely no one deserves that. We live in a new world of technology that has had negative effects on the way we socialize as a species, and the way our societies are built to extract the most capital from us all without providing safety nets creates a zero sum game. It’s also extremely hard to hear and see men all over the internet proclaim that women should lose their rights for trying to survive without …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:01 AM
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Sorry. I assumed your comment was from the dude who replied to all my conversations at once
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:50 AM
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Women don’t assume that about single men, only men who are misogynistic and blame all women for their loneliness are told it’s their fault. Normally because they have a toxic personality and hateful beliefs. No one else is blaming men for not being partnered. If anything, women are more stigmatized for being single than men have ever been. Being lonely doesn’t make you a hateful bigot but being a hateful bigot will make you lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:35 AM
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Women don’t deny this fact. We cite your lack of standards as men for the disparity. Women have higher costs in reproduction and sexual disease. It’s silly to not be selective as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:17 AM
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Women and females are more selective than men and males in almost every species on the planet earth, are you new here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:16 AM
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Men are not propagandized from birth to be fathers and find a woman and get married though, which is also probably why they don’t really value those things over casual sex with as many women as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:15 AM
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Men opt out of parenthood. 90% of child custody is settled out of court, there is not a fight being lost. Being the primary parent by default is why women no longer want to have children in a world where there is no stigma for men leaving, nor adequate safety nets for single parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:47 AM
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You guys consistently underestimate the risks women face in relationships and sexual encounters with men. There is not enough support for single mothers to survive and adequately care for their children. It’s often used against them when people are citing crime statistics but seems hard to grasp that there are no social safety nets for that scenario when it is overwhelmingly common. Men want to use single motherhoood as a punishment for women and are confused when women opt out of that risk enti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:43 AM
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Right but the choice is to remain unpartnered or to focus on education and career because it’s the safer option.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:32 AM
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https://www.npr.org/2017/05/12/528098789/u-s-has-the-worst-rate-of-maternal-deaths-in-the-developed-world NPR and ProPublica teamed up for a six-month long investigation on maternal mortality in the U.S. Among our key findings: More American women are dying of pregnancy-related complications than any other developed country. Only in the U.S. has the rate of women who die been rising. There's a hodgepodge of hospital protocols for dealing with potentially fatal complications, allowing for treatab…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:09 AM
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Father’s Day is a thing, and everything you listed is to help parents, not just mothers or even single mothers. Every woman has to consider that she may end up a single mother because there is no stigma for a man to leave his child.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:00 AM
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Source where feminists support the draft in Ukraine?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:50 AM
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The first link has a paywall. Are you trying to dispute this incredibly well known fact that maternal mortality is 3 times worse in America than the next industrialized country?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:49 AM
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Nope, most feminists do not support any draft. It’s one of the oldest things feminists have fought for (at least in America, and other English speaking countries)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:02 AM
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America has the highest maternal mortality of any first world country even though we spend the most on healthcare. https://www.bmj.com/content/385/bmj.q1276 The US continues to have the highest maternal mortality among 14 rich industrialised countries, says a report from the Commonwealth Fund, an independent research organisation focusing on improving healthcare.1 The US spends more on healthcare than any other high income country “but has much worse maternal health outcomes,” the report says. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:56 AM
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That is not why most women are not having children, it’s absolutely a conscious choice being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:41 AM
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Every pregnancy is a life or death situation, and that’s worse for you if you’re American. That alone is reason enough to not do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:30 PM
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Sure men are great at fighting the wars they love to start. That’s why you play soldier even if you’ve lived in peacetime for your entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:26 PM
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I don’t think that’s true either. Gen Z women identify as queer in extremely large numbers, 35-40% identify as bisexual or lesbian, leaning lesbian. Seems like masculinity isn’t really as important as everyone here likes to claim. https://www.advocate.com/news/gen-z-women-bisexual-lesbian
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 07:38 PM
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They definitely can coexist but very rarely do in practice, which is why women are opting out of marriage and children. Being a SAHM is dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:30 PM
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There are no feminist women who want conservative or traditional men, at all. This is online manosphere mythology. Liberal and progressive women won’t entertain men who don’t share their politics which is why so many men are lying about their affiliations. Women want equal partners, not traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:27 AM
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No. She is trying to explain to you that abuse and mistreatment and toxicity NEVER enter the equation of what a woman wants. Not in fantasy or anywhere else. It’s just that the fantasy is not real at all. Protection from everything in the world and especially other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 05:33 AM
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Popularity has never been a factor for me ever. I have dated musicians and gym bros, quiet types and gamers. It’s absolutely imperative for me to spend time with someone before any real attraction even starts for me personally, and being competent in a skill like a sport or instrument is attractive because of competence not whatever perceived popularity or “fame” involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:54 PM
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Does it make sense then why everyone tries to err on the side of caution?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:25 AM
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We just aren’t obsessed with the superficial appearance. If you’re pretty, that’s nice. If you are pretty and have banter and a good personality, that’s attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:17 AM
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You very obviously don’t know who is swinging, it’s not like the movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:05 AM
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It’s another women-are-a-monolith posts with a racial twist. It’s not counting disabled, fat or ugly women either just the fuckable ones by his subjective definition
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:54 PM
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Don’t they rape each other in prison?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:49 PM
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“Doing what’s best for society” is also eugenics and has been used in the past to sterilize people. Is it different if you force women to reproduce with men they otherwise reject?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:43 PM
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I don’t get the joke, it’s said here on occasion with no irony. Not as often as the posts demanding to know why women want to be attracted to someone they sleep with, granted. Children women? That’s a new one. At least they are still children I guess, instead of underage women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:31 PM
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Cause they think that only men should get choose, or have the final say like when they used to be able to purchase a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:12 PM
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No women I know yearn for traditional men. This is mostly an online thing that men talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:58 AM
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Social skills are learned, though. That’s why they are skills. Sure, some could come innately but they are available to most people, they aren’t like superpowers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:14 AM
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Various things like our bodies. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:47 PM
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1974 they made it illegal to discriminate against women for not being married in order to get credit or open a line without a male co-signer. So that was 52 years ago, not 70+ What have women told you that you aren’t entitled to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:28 PM
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No, not like the right to vote or any of that other stuff like driving and education and owning property, or having jobs was never strictly not for women, and it certainly wasn’t the men who came up with that. No, women have never been told they aren’t entitled to stuff by men. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:33 PM
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The gender ratios on these apps is pretty extreme, so I would reckon it’s a typical experience. Far fewer women are trying to have casual sex or hookups. And that’s the purpose of those apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:24 AM
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Having to employ “a mindset” in order to interact with another human being is why this is not attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:32 AM
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Why is only she expected to be peaceful? Are we operating under the assumption that he doesn’t “nag”? By the way, being single is called protecting our peace for a reason. Seems like women are doing everyone a favor by quitting relationships. Since we all crave peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:40 PM
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So it is still just “Do your job and don’t compain”. As men complain about women in the bible, and other holy texts apparently. It’s okay, a lot of us have quit those jobs in exchange for gainful employment. No wonder everyone is single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:07 PM
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Well since love marriages only really came into popularity in the 18th and 19th century, I am not sure any of those women had much of a choice in the matter of being married to the men they got stuck with. I’d be pissed off too if I were “hitched” and formally belonged to a man who probably bought me off my parents. Pretty sure we just don’t call the complaining that men do “nagging” and that’s why it’s a silly distinction. Cause boy do they ever complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:33 AM
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At this rate we will never make it, have you seen the collection of dweebs running the show?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:23 AM
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No that is my point about this. I willingly did it for years because I loved him as a person, he brought value to my life outside of money. This is normal behavior when you love someone. Love doesn’t happen over night or even in the best circumstances, but it is the nature of partnership to support each other when the other is lacking or needs help. At some point however, that can become untenable because love is not enough to survive on and resentment is a real consequence of neglect. Maybe it …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:58 AM
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He didn’t really have his shit together, he couldn’t afford it by himself and his parents weren’t going to pay for him to be there alone without a job, but we were in a recession. I had just lost my grandfather to a long battle with Alzheimer’s. This was occurring while I was working at the mall, so he would come and help me with my grandpa because I couldn’t always do it by myself. A few years later he passed away. Within two years after one death, my dad was dying of cancer, didn’t want to die…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:32 AM
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It’s our American history my friend, not “gender war drivel”. My mother was born in the 60’s so this is something she was alive to experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:24 AM
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He wasn’t bad looking either though, probably average. Maybe 5/10, skinny like a twig and had a funny laugh. He was a good person from what I had seen before we got to know each other. He was quiet and reserved but was always looking out for the people he was around. I met him at my work in the mall, he would come in with his friends. I spent time talking to his little brother before I spoke to him myself, and he was clearly very loved by his brother who looked up to him and wanted to be whereve…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:57 AM
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Nope because men haven’t have their rights limited or have been legally discriminated against like women have through history. Men have always been able to own property Men have always been able to have credit Men have always been able to go to college Men have always been able to find paid work Men have always been legal to drive Men have always been able to rent out a room in a hotel None of this was true for women at some point. Women weren’t allowed to have credit cards until the 70’s, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:55 PM
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Oh, you know why I did it? Why is that? I’m pretty sure you have no idea. He wasn’t 6 foot or beating other women off him with a stick, so what do you imply is the reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:52 PM
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Then why is the woman the one being subordinate? Why can’t the man be subordinate, doesn’t he love her too?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:58 AM
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I was a provider for nearly 7 years, it’s not that uncommon in modern times when so many women have careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:57 AM
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100% agree This is why people call it “fragile masculinity” though, cause it’s so easily broken or stolen from a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:57 AM
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No it’s not From Google : Asking a man if he is gay is generally not considered misandry (hatred of or prejudice against men), but rather a breach of social etiquette, a microaggression, or a form of homophobia. Here is a breakdown of why this is the case based on social perspectives: It is often rooted in Homophobia/Misogyny: Asking this question is frequently used to mock, shame, or "other" a man who does not conform to traditional, toxic masculinity standards (e.g., if he is sensitive, gentle…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:55 AM
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It’s a prison of their own making, but they aggressively defend their choice nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:45 AM
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Why do you need to be given deference? Why would she feel like that is a loving thing to give? Why do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:16 PM
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By contribute you mean reproduce? Is there no other contribution that counts? What about those people who are medically unable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:16 AM
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War is brewing all over in scary ways. Maybe this isn’t that too far off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:11 AM
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I find it weird that men seek deference from their partner. Why would she need to be your subordinate to make you feel complete?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:08 AM
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No, that’s absurd. Not everyone knows how horrible the orgasm gap is when they lose their virginity in their teen years. That is so silly. My mother was not trying to make sure I was having orgasms, she was trying to make sure I wasn’t alone long enough to fuck my boyfriend at all. It looks like the women have learned their lesson and started fucking each other. Lesbians make each other cum reliably, it makes sense if the women have moved onto lgbt apps and relationships for hookups and relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:57 AM
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I’m a millennial and we didn’t get to learn about the orgasm gap. A lot of the time, it was made out to be that there was something wrong with us for not being able to cum on demand. This was also when porn was starting to become normalized through the internet so the focus was certainly on the male cumshot and not much else for a lot of us growing up. You keep insisting it’s appealing when there is study after study that shows it leads to regret for women and then they stop participating in it,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:46 AM
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He emphasizes that the woman should “bring peace”, I imagine that means “handle all my emotional labor quietly and without complaint”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:43 AM
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Not even at all, what the hell
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:42 AM
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Someone please point me to where these mythical 6 foot, emotionally intelligent, domestically capable, benevolent rich men are. I find it difficult to even imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:40 AM
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Can you give an example of how a woman “brings peace”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:38 AM
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Most women don’t know the statistics, don’t be absurd. Even with the interment I have surprised people when I told them. It’s easily available I will give you that, but that doesn’t mean everyone seeks it. I am so happy for younger generations of women who have access to the internet so that they may inform themselves of what they are dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:18 AM
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Not as much as before when men ensured we were economically dependent on them. Most women have far more education and are working their own careers these days. That’s not to say women don’t still prefer to marry up. Societal standards mean that if she marries a bum, she becomes responsible for him and everything he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:14 AM
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Many women are not hooking up. This is the part you keep repeating. Here are some fun stats ; Just because grandmas are fuckin doesn’t mean they are doing casual sex, but it surely comes with a lot less risk!! Younger women do not engage in hookup culture. Here is some data https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/datablog/2025/nov/28/gen-z-sex-dating-relationships Nearly a quarter of gen Z adults identify as LGBTQ+, compared with 10% of all US adults. Millennials come next, at 15%, with gen X (6%), …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:10 AM
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Naw the man isn't expected to come with too much, he is just a provider that does good enough. One that she isn't all that into in the first place that happen to be good enough to settle for. One that will possibly end up in a dead bedroom situation. So I wouldn't say this is a good position at all. No you didn’t say anything about him being attractive in any way and that’s not what I mentioned either. He would have to be giving, stable, and reliable to be someone to help out a woman in need, by…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:50 AM
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Who do you think is educating them on the stats? I am not that old and no one told us shit about how terrible hookups were gonna be. I wish they did! The most we got was the older women warning us the same old things about how men only want to get you to bed and are pretty selfish when you get there but this has been told to women for hundreds of years. No one provided us the statistics on how dismal this was.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:29 AM
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No sir If hookup culture was appealing to women more women would do it at all ages. Grandmas are hooking up like crazy in the nursing homes so you can’t say we are limited by age. One night stands only really benefit men. It’s a learning experience and it’s appealing because it’s new. What I am telling you is that most women are disappointed by their hookups and never do it again after they learn it’s not going to get better the more you try. This is why they will do it while they are young. Dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:24 AM
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No that’s understandable, especially since that is probably such a rare thing these days. It used to be that everyone had at least one story of something they regret while wasted. Not that many people get wasted anymore. If that’s something you feel is a rule for yourself, just know you won’t be sleeping with women who do casual sex or hookups. I don’t know a single woman who has ever done it that didn’t regret it at least once, drunk or sober.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:15 AM
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I have before when I was younger but find no interest in it now. I’m a younger millennial, if that helps. We went to a lot of parties and raves and didn’t have a fear of being recorded or photographed. Most of my hookups happened under the influence of drugs or alcohol, but not all of them. I basically quickly learned I am not that into hookups without discussion because it can be risky not to do that first. Not to mention my likelihood of orgasm increased if I continued to hook up with the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:17 AM
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Not formally diagnosed, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:44 AM
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If a woman needed someone to step up for her, wouldn’t that imply more requirements? He would need to be trustworthy, reliable, giving, kind and compassionate, (not everyone would go out of their way) stable enough to rely on. Seems like the only thing that wouldn’t matter is his looks, so this is obviously far more requirements. For hookups and fwbs, we are going for trustworthy and safe and fucks good enough to get me off. Don’t care what you look like. I have been with both ugly men and obese…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:41 AM
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Asking how he likes to fuck is not really a strange conversation to have before you hookup, and I say this as someone who has never really used the apps. Maybe I am autistic but that doesn’t seem like a stretch at all to me, I’ve done it as a form of dirty talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:36 AM
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They are looking for validation as well as satisfaction and will often find that it’s not always going to measure up to that expectation. Hence the disappointment and regret often cited.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:34 AM
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No, young women often don’t know how approach a man with her needs, can sometimes struggle to make themselves orgasm on their own. Eventually they will learn that they don’t have to focus on the man’s orgasm the way society and porn imply that you should. It takes time to be able to center your own pleasure as a woman. This is why statistics show that women regret hookups a large percentage of the time. It’s not a satisfying endeavor usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:33 AM
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Fair enough, I thought the implication was in the context of superficial qualities such as looks or height.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:29 AM
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I would find out by getting to know him or by simply asking. This is part of the vetting process. Some men can’t control themselves and will say something absolutely ridiculous and disqualify himself right away. I’ve not spoken about my preferences because they aren’t your business, but talking about sex is always a good thing before a hookup to know where boundaries are, and whether or not he is capable of respecting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:17 AM
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There are fewer requirements. Boyfriend material requires far more requirements than a hookup or a friends with benefits situation. All three require you be a healthy and safe person to have sex with, but that’s where the similarities end in most cases. Most women just stay celibate outside of relationships, but there are some who will sleep with friends. ONS are not popular with women because they are not satisfying for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:29 AM
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Women who do hookup, will hookup with past lovers or friends they know aren’t going to try to hurt them, take advantage of them sexually or give them diseases. Access to my body is directly correlated to how respectful you are after you meet safety and health requirements, like recent STI testing. This is the absolute bare minimum for me personally and the majority of women I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:25 AM
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I'm a sober slut but the data does show a strong correlation between casual sex/short-term hookups and alcohol consumption. 100%, every single time I have hooked up with someone unexpectedly (meaning no real discussion beforehand), I was under the influence of something. Exactly why it’s so important to be aware of your surroundings and trust the people around if you are going to drink alcohol or do drugs. My best sex has always been with long time partners, and took a while to get to that point…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:47 AM
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Nope. Hookup culture is not appealing to women, period. Statistics show that hookups are not sexually satisfying to women, regardless of what the man looks like. Repeated encounters are the only way to ensure orgasm, which is why women will engage in FWB hookups before a ONS. There are far fewer requirements for a hookup, safety is always a #1 priority because of how much risk involved for the woman, so that means looks invariably falls somewhere behind that. You can be an attractive jerk and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:40 AM
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Yes we do. Hookups aren’t about the most attractive men you can find, it’s about finding someone who is relatively safe and will fuck you the way you want. Hookups are about finding as low risk and high reward as possible. The goal is to orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:26 AM
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You’re almost getting the point. Women do not go by looks alone when seeking a fit partner. Too many other variables take precedence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:23 AM
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Oh so you’re not post-wall yet? /s Probably doesn’t fit with his narrative anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:21 AM
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Yep! I was with him for nearly 8 years before shit hit the fan and I gave up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:59 AM
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The difference is that patriarchy requires men to define their manhood on their ability to conquer a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:57 AM
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Rejection is not a threat to our identity as women like it is to men, even if she responds with the misogynistic/homophobic “Are you gay?” That doesn’t mean she took “an extreme hit to her femininity” It just doesn’t work that way for women. That’s just an attack on the masculinity of the man
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:55 AM
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It gives them fictional reading material so they can seethe about women having the ability to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:53 AM
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Being attracted to a man has never influenced how quickly I slept with him, nor any women I know. Just because he is attractive doesn’t mean he is safe. You guys consistently underestimate the amount of risk involved for women. She is not bullshitting you in her comment at all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:42 AM
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There’s plenty of studies done in western countries to compare, of course this will vary. Women will always endure more social and medical risk for sexual encounters than men. This is pretty universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:32 AM
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Women have on average 4-7 partners over their entire lifetime. We do not engage in hookup culture or casual sex like men do. You can blame it on attraction if you want to. https://www.sexandpsychology.com/blog/2024/12/4/how-many-sexual-partners-have-most-people-had/ National Survey of Family Growth: 2002 – 2019 The National Survey of Family Growth (NSFG) is designed to produce national-level United States survey data about a variety of family planning topics. Data is collected through in-person …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:43 PM
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Women do not get railed even though it’s easy. We do not want that, it’s worthless to us. In the same way gay sex is to a straight man. It would be easy for you to get gay sex, but you choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:17 PM
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I thought most women wouldn’t have to try for that. You only want to talk to people who are equally as unsuccessful? How does that help anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:04 AM
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Does this apply to you guys to or just the women? Cause if that was the rule, this place would be more women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:55 AM
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I’m bisexual so maybe I am not the person to be asked this, I find it very strange that you can’t find things that you prefer in a platonic companionship with the opposite sex. I have had close relationships both sexual and non sexual with both sexes, and I don’t find myself limited by their gender in that way. I don’t think I need to want sex with one or the other to thoroughly enjoy their companionship. But I hold everyone in equal regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:14 AM
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By not participating at all. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:12 AM
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We don’t participate in it. The majority of women do not have casual sex at all. Friends with benefits situations are often just friends or past lovers, someone who is familiar and trustworthy. This is the extent of hookup culture for women. So you’re saying that all women, even those who abstain, are controlling the sexual fate of all men? The fact that there are so few women participating is why you guys are mad. All men would participate in casual sex. Almost no women are interested in that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:21 AM
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Most women do not enjoy or participate in hookup culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:31 AM
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This is what feminists mean when they say that men don’t like women as people. It’s why men can’t respect women the same way they do men, why they don’t idolize women or look up to a woman like they could a man, why it’s hard to believe you see us as equals. Companionship/partnership is fully dependent upon access to her body otherwise the “transaction” is not worth it for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:30 AM
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The women who do that are playing the same game as the men under patriarchy and traditional gender roles. For women, it’s only a status improvement if you marry up, just marrying any old bum isn’t good enough. It can be worse for your social status, in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:43 PM
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I mentioned it because they were some of the first animals domesticated by humans. We eventually did the same to livestock and this is why historians also credit women with essential roles in developing animal husbandry and agriculture. But yes, indeed, I know of the crazy women who rescue sick and dirty animals. I am her and she is me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:39 PM
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Exactly, it was an extension of the caretaking / domestic roles often belonging to the women in communal hunter-gatherer groups. It’s not a huge leap to imagine women planting seeds of grain that didn’t get ground up. Women also have superior attention to detail and extra cones in the eyes to identify more colors. It’s essential to be able to tell which berries and plants are edible and which aren’t, since there are a lot of lookalikes that are deadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:25 AM
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Historians believe that women invented farming. Also women played a significant role in the domestication of dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:06 AM
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The “story” is that not all women vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:25 AM
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Why don’t you guys every look up or google anything before you start these weird tantrums?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:24 AM
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Nothing is induced by society, especially like being trans or gay. Society is influenced by groups of people who have shitty ideas, like those who call themselves preachers for example. Gender roles are a result of patriarchy, which is a type of social system within a society. Those roles historically have been enforced with violence through a top-down hierarchy. This is not “natural” as some men like to claim, since if it were natural to us it wouldn’t require violence to uphold. This structure…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:58 AM
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Society influences, society exists without malicious intent. No one says gay people can be “induced” except for conservatives. No one else thinks you can “trans” your kids by osmosis, because that’s stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:55 PM
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Things don’t have to be outrageous to be popular, subtlety does the job in most cases just fine. We live in a time where everything insists upon itself and subtlety is mostly dead, along with satire. I have met people who follow Andrew Tate or at the very least feel the need to voraciously defend him, but I am a gamer and worked around gamers so I think that’s inevitable for the hobbies I have, personally. I fear it’s also more popular with younger generations and I find this worrisome as I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:49 AM
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It was just an example from the front page of Reddit today. If you want further analysis, some of those studies I linked previously have related articles that go further in depth specifically with music. Or are you debating that it’s a common trope in popular media?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:08 AM
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The thing about popular music is that it’s popluar and you will eventually hear it out in the wild at events or even shopping centers. I’m sure if you live in an echo chamber, never watch any new movies or current tv shows, never go outside and don’t have any friends who differ in taste when it comes to your obscure music genres, or at the very least know better than to play them around you. Or you could listen to purely instrumental music We still were not discussing you but the reflection of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:16 AM
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We weren’t talking about you though. We were talking about society in which we all live and participate. The fact is that it exists in multiple genres across time, your taste in music doesn’t change that. It’s popular music.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:43 AM
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I’d love to hear the explanation for this cognitive leap
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:12 AM
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Pick one? Rock and roll, country, rap, metal. https://languagedlife.ucla.edu/sociolinguistics/beyond-the-beat-exploring-objectification-in-rap-and-country-lyrics/ This one is behind a paywall possibly https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-016-0592-3 And it matches the music videos https://cseinstitute.org/staged-for-the-male-gaze-the-objectification-of-women-in-music- It’s increased too in the last decade. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360908802_A_Content_Analysis_of_Music_…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:58 AM
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I mean, I don’t think you even really need eyes. It’s everywhere in the lyrics of multiple genres of music.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:12 AM
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It’s not as altruistic if you are considering the women you’re protecting as a resource instead of as equal humans with rights of their own, instead of overaged incapable children. Fighting wars for resources and glory isn’t altruistic either. There is a reason the draft exists (even if I personally disagree with it). As far as I know, women complain that men hide their emotions to seem more manly and masculine because it leaves the men emotionally stunted, this is harmful and not at all a favor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:01 AM
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It’s a perfect example of why the orgasm gap exists. Why be so defensive? We are trying to help, women really like to cum too. I guarantee if it was a guarantee to have an orgasm like it is for men, women would be far more interested in sleeping with you. What a concept!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:39 PM
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Skin stimulation is going to make someone cum?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:48 PM
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The women who have sex with women in this thread are eating a ton of pussy, cause it makes women cum reliably. That’s why it’s always #1 advice given. Fish are actively trying to get away from you, it’s not a good analogy. Unless you are trying to relay that you view sexual conquest as predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:44 PM
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Is that why you keep downvoting me even though I have agreed with you now 3 times that it’s probably sexist? It doesn’t harm anyone to abstain from sexual activity. No one is projecting anything onto anyone specific by avoiding sexual contact. How do you keep equating this to hatred or bigotry? No one is owed sexual contact, but everyone is owed common decency and that’s why it’s not comparable to racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:32 PM
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We agree that it’s sexist but no one is being harmed if someone feels safer abstaining. It’s not phobic or hatred or whatever to choose to avoid sexual relationships after being victimized. The entire argument I am making is that it is reasonable, not that it’s not sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:07 PM
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Because they are often compared here for some reason even though it’s not the same thing. And it was about avoiding, not hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:07 PM
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You said it’s “unreasonable” and I disagree with you that it’s unreasonable, bigotry, or prejudiced. No one is projecting bad experiences on all men by abstaining from sex with them, it’s self preservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:50 PM
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It’s not prejudice to choose to not have sex with someone for any reason. No one is entitled to have sex with someone who has an aversion to it for any reason. Not bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:00 PM
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It’s not predjudiced to not have sex with someone 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:59 PM
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Being robbed is not the same as being raped and that comparison has always made no sense. At least to me because I am a woman, and rape is not a property crime. It’s also not the same as being racist to avoid the risk of sexual violence by any demographic. It’s not “treating people different” because it’s not an equal opportunity endeavor to have sex with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:30 PM
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Never said it wasn’t sexist. I can understand someone who has been victimized being afraid of that level of violence or worse again though, and avoiding people. Men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:09 AM
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Maybe it’s not if you are trying to avoid interacting with crazy people. But even to avoid the risk of rape and death?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:55 AM
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False
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:12 PM
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You first have to show me where I claimed they are all violent terrorists. Incels are associated with violence, hatred and misogyny, often engaging in violent fantasies about women in their online communities. These are not made up definitions. https://www.britannica.com/topic/incel incel, member of an online subculture of primarily heterosexual men who identify as being unable to have romantic or sexual relationships. This self-described inability to form attachments is often expressed as griev…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:54 AM
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What in the world are you talking about? Many other peoples in this thread are trying to explain the term has evolved in the last decade. Your link doesn’t disprove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:44 AM
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Incorrect. It’s a rising problem enough that world governments are classifying attacks related to misogyny as terrorism. I have linked these here before : https://www.mccaininstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/incel-and-misogynist-violent-extremism-read-ahead-materials-august-2.pdf https://gnet-research.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/GNET-44e-Incel-Subculture_web.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynist_terrorism 1984 Cleveland Public Library shooting[20] 1989 École Polytechnique massacr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:36 AM
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You are not broken, you just need more external stimulation! 80% of women require clitoral stimulation in order to have an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:42 AM
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No takesiesbacksies. I was trying to explain exactly that to him, incel = hateful misogynist, not sad virgins. You can take over since he wants to agree with you. Seems like it doesn’t matter how many people explain this fact in here, they resist the reality that language evolves, especially slang internet terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:12 AM
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No, the definition of incel includes the misogynistic opinions and hatred. From merriam Webster ; https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/incel incel noun in·​cel ˈin-ˌsel plural incels : a person (usually a man) who is or identifies as involuntarily celibate and typically expresses extreme resentment and hostility toward those who are sexually active. This subculture has evolved to include misogynistic beliefs and attitudes. From Google ; Evolution of the Term The term "incel" was originally…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:15 AM
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I am not the one who redefined the slang term; society did. You can choose to cling to the incorrect original meaning but literally no one else means “unhappy virgin” when they call someone an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:07 AM
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You’re right, I never claimed that. Celibacy is a choice there is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. The implication being that celibacy is being forced on that person against their will. If you have never had sex before, you’re a virgin. If you are a virgin who has violent fantasies about women and want them to suffer because they don’t sleep with you, you might be an incel. Someone going through a dry spell is someone who cannot find a partner in current times but did before, and is most i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:43 AM
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It’s more appropriate than abstinent, though I am sure that could work? My point is that slang is often used to be intentionally hurtful even when it’s used with good intentions, and now this term describes a recognized terrorist ideology. Whether or not you are voluntarily a virgin, describing yourself as an incel ascribes you to that ideology. When someone refers to themselves as “celibate” it means it was a choice. Both celibacy and abstinence refer to a choice or a commitment. By abstaining,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:35 AM
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No, incels are repulsive to women because of the dangerous ideology that dehumanizes women. It’s not the same thing as being an angry or disaffected virgin. Virginity could be miserable and still not make you hate women and want them to die and suffer because they don’t choose you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:25 AM
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They think incel = virgin. It mostly doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:23 AM
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I think it’s useless to have the term “voluntary celibate,” or “involuntary celibate”, everyone is born a virgin. The people who haven’t had sex happen for them are virgins, the people who choose celibacy are celibate. The problem with slang is that it evolves way faster than standard language and accepted terms. There are already accepted terms for those states of being, adding internet slang was unnecessary but it was originally intended to be used to find community online. It was very success…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:06 AM
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A virgin Here’s our governments outline on incels and their terroristic ideology, along with some examples https://www.mccaininstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/incel-and-misogynist-violent-extremism-read-ahead-materials-august-2.pdf https://gnet-research.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/GNET-44e-Incel-Subculture_web.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynist_terrorism 1984 Cleveland Public Library shooting[20] 1989 École Polytechnique massacre 1991 Luby's shooting[5] 2009 Collier Township …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:47 AM
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A woman invented incels. I’m sure there are hateful women somewhere who can’t get attention from men and blame them for every ill in their lives, but they don’t do mass shootings as far as I know. So the terrorism is a huge part of it, I think. Something changes when you start killing people cause they won’t sleep with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:41 AM
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Incel is a word that’s now associated with acts of terrorism and so it’s been reclassified in that way in most people’s minds. Not every incel is even a virgin, there’s whole groups of self identified incels who have sex with women and prostitutes. It’s absolutely more about the misogynistic ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:24 AM
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Why though? Why do you think it’s important for one and horrible for the other
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:18 AM
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That’s no longer what incel means after all the terrorist attacks done in the name of the ideology. Words evolve and this no longer is dependent on whether or not that person has been intimate with a woman. When people say incel, they mean violent misogynist. I’ve met virgins who are not incels. To be an incel is to align yourself with a hateful ideology that recruits young men online.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:17 AM
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It’s recognized as an ideology by the FBI and other world governments because their actions have led to real world terrorism. https://www.mccaininstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/incel-and-misogynist-violent-extremism-read-ahead-materials-august-2.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:10 AM
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No, it just means they understand the societal gender norm expected of straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:05 AM
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Many women don’t actually care about male virginity unless it’s a side effect of other weird or scary behaviors. Sometimes people are just shy. I have taken the virginity of multiple men for example and none of them would be considered red flags by anyone. One of them didn’t tell me until after we ran into difficulties and I had no idea he was so inexperienced. Your attitude and behaviors matter so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:02 AM
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It’s dehumanizing women to imply sex is a need only for men because of their “sex drive”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:50 AM
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It hasn’t lost any meaning because people misuse it. Mostly it’s just caused confusion. It still means violent misogyny since all the terrorism that has come out of the online ideology that actively recruits people. The sting of the insult usually depends on the accuracy and the person who is delivering it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:46 AM
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If the opinion was misogynistic it was a synonym for that. Opinions are certainly misogynistic in here so that isn’t the same as shaming someone for being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:38 AM
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It’s attacking their ideology with their own ideological rules
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:28 AM
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It’s an insult because it prays upon the fears and insecurities of “traditionally masculine” men who think their manhood depends on intercourse with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:24 AM
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Not in recent years. It’s more associated with violent misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:23 AM
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Calling someone an incel is not the same thing as calling someone a virgin. That term has evolved meaning in the last decade. There are self declared incels online who have had sex. It’s about misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:20 AM
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The equivalent would be "slut," since men and women are different in this regard. Only under patriarchy are women shamed for enjoying sex. This is patriarchy. Once we established agriculture, resources and inheritance became a priority so marriage was invented to ensure paternity. This is not really debated by historians.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:14 AM
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Am I missing something? No one is being blamed in my comment. Insulting someone with something they find insulting is not victim blaming. I am explaining why someone may use an insult they do not necessarily agree with. It’s like all the dudes who scream “you’re fat” after they get rejected by the girl. Clearly she’s not too fat for the guy before the rejection, but he’s gonna say it anyway cause she’s probably insecure. It’s not right but it’s the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:05 AM
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Whatever rule you refer to doesn’t have any relevance on whether or not all societies shame male virgins, which is what we were discussing. It’s a byproduct of patriarchal culture that’s typically inspired by locally held beliefs from patriarchal religions. The patriarchy is not some feminist conspiracy, it’s an accepted anthropological term used to describe a social system. It’s not the only social system in existence currently or in historical record. It extends to primate social systems as we…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:00 AM
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Yep, it’s patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:44 AM
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Really gonna blow your mind when you find out incels don’t have to be virgins anymore. Words change over time and now it’s synonymous with horrendous misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:15 PM
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We were not discussing “the rule”, whatever nonsense that is. There are several matriarchal societies that still exist today. This sounds way more like it’s offensive to your ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:05 PM
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You’re implying there were no egalitarian hunter gatherer societies?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:00 PM
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And my question (though I'll apologize for reading the comment as you saying you participate in it) was why you think the men would actually find it insulting apart from it being used as an insult. Because under patriarchy, men are supposed to be virile and potent and have many, many kids. You are not a man if you do not do this. And women have to be pure virgins and unsexual until marriage and then have many children, and if she cannot do this she is not a “good woman”. It varies with culture, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:53 PM
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The whole point of my original comment is that the reason people call men virgins is because they themselves find it insulting. The person saying it doesn’t need to agree that it’s insulting to anyone except the person being insulted as the intention is to hurt the target. I never once participated in this behavior, I just explained why someone would. The societal expectation that men aren’t men without having sex with women is actually a new phenomenon. Male virginity has not historically been …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:41 PM
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I am not participating in any shaming, as I haven’t called anyone a virgin. I don’t do that. I am explaining to someone why it is insulting to men in particular. You don’t want to engage in why it would be considered insulting to someone’s manhood why they can’t fuck women, but no equivalent exists for women. This is a relatively new phenomenon that arrived with societies shifting towards agriculture and patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:31 PM
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Talk about bad faith. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:29 PM
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Black people demonstrate my hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:24 PM
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I don’t think I ever mentioned black people. You’re just making things up now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:23 PM
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I never made that claim. It’s definitely imposed by patriarchal society. You aren’t a man if you can’t dominate a woman, meaning couple up with one and be the dominant one in the relationship. Men, more than women, garner status from this due to gender norms. Women gain status too, only if they “marry up”. This is all the same system and it’s absolutely an external force that everyone participates in. This is why I called it a misogynistic insult in another conversation, it’s the implication tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:17 PM
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Only men find it insulting which is why it’s an insult to them in particular. Why would they find it insulting? Why wouldn’t women also be insulted?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:09 PM
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Why would it be insulting to all male virgins? And only male virgins? What about female ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:08 PM
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It’s how insults work, not a novel concept. Does not have to be insulting to the person saying it, or really anyone else except the target.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:52 PM
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You are comparing dehumanization to a personalized insult. No matter your mental gymnastics, they are not the same thing. It’s also not even a sexist insult, since it’s prized in women. It’s a misogynistic one at best. Explain how it’s “dehumanizing”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:48 PM
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No, calling someone the n word is a bit more than insulting. It’s dehumanizing, to an entire race of people. Is it dehumanizing to be called a virgin? Everyone starts out as a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:42 PM
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Virgins aren’t oppressed minorities, no matter how often they try to make the comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:50 PM
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Because it’s insulting to you. It’s an effective attack even if they don’t believe it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:17 PM
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That is not how most rapes happen anyway since women are raped by men they know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:12 PM
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The problem is most men seem to think “rapist” means mustache twirling villain hiding in the shadows and not their friend who they see all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:24 AM
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Nowhere did I say that women were professionals with a penis before ever laying eyes on one; I said women know where the sensitive parts are. And you would think with how many hundreds of hours men spend staring into random vaginas in porn that maybe they would be curious about what feels good to the women who own them rather than what the hairy man with the hard dick is doing. But no, oftentimes they see the hole and lose interest in anything else, because that’s its purpose right? Everything e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 09:09 PM
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Pretty sure that age range has more to do with free time and lack of real world responsibility that comes later with career, moving or family planning. Even still, if you looked to see it also said : Data from the General Social Survey indicates that young adults (Millennials and Gen Z) are actually having less casual sex than Gen Xers did at the same age These trends are intergenerational and are trending in the same direction as Gen Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:31 AM
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It says that some subset of women have casual sex. Statistically it’s not very many though, this has been studied over and over again. Gay men participate in the most casual sex by far, and bisexual and straight men are right after them. This is again not to say that women, straight or otherwise, don’t participate in casual sex, it’s just a fraction of women compared to men overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:11 AM
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Community dick by definition is not relationship material and therefore of no interest to women who don’t participate in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:32 AM
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Careful, you’re wandering dangerously close to the “lock versus key” analogy trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:31 AM
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That’s only for us feeeeemales
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:30 AM
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It’s not some kind of conspiratorial mystery either. Absolutely incredible though, in the truest definition of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:17 PM
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No, are you reading my comment right? Clearly long term relationships show women that men drop their pretenses and insecurities when they trust them and no longer struggle to keep their dick hard. It’s also way easier for a woman to achieve orgasm with a man after time in the relationship because of idiosyncrasies of personal pleasure points.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:12 PM
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The majority of women need clitoral stimulation. This is not a mystery. There will be slight variations between women but making this into some Herculean task is very on par with the typical accusations of weaponized incompetence. Just because it’s not as simple as their own organ, men decide it’s not worth learning about so therefore they shouldn’t have to. Good thing that there are men who know how to use the internet, some of you guys are interested in it on your own but it’s certainly not al…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:08 PM
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I agree that all of that is bad. It’s born out of shame, but there is no excuse for faking it when he’s trying. The problem is that rejection can be met with rage oftentimes when men feel like it’s targeting their manhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:55 PM
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Yeah it’s such a shame they have to learn how to make sure sex is pleasurable for everyone involved so that women will choose to sleep with them, instead of how it used to be when women didn’t have a choice, especially married women, because it was not legally rape if she said no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:50 PM
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Yeah, turns out women prefer the free market too. Who would have guessed?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:48 PM
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Yes I know women who have had childbirth render them nearly numb.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:40 PM
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We absolutely do appreciate it! I have heard all kinds of funny things you guys sometimes think about to delay it. It is the opposite problem I have, and I imagine that’s true for a lot of women. Takes focus for everyone involved
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:39 PM
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Simple does not mean better. You are just telling on yourself that you are uninterested in women’s sexuality because it’s complex and something you have to have interest in learning about to be good at.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:30 PM
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No absolutely not, sexual dysfunction is a real thing in women and it’s just as much a psychological thing as ED is for men. I have experienced it myself, and it’s very common in people with shame-based upbringings due to culture or religion. I personally had mental blocks when trying to have an orgasm with another person for the first time, and that was with a partner who was determined to make it happen. There is a reason women have complaints about lack of stimulation and it’s not always a sk…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:27 PM
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Power differentials are abusive and lead to more abuse than any other alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:21 PM
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That is completely by design. Unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:15 PM
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Women want clitoral stimulation. There’s no mysterious ever changing body parts, the majority of women require external, meaning clitoral stimulation. The fact that men talk about this like it’s still a mystery and they need every woman to declare that to them is insane. Do you think women don’t know the head of the penis is the most sensitive part? Most women know this before they ever touch one. They don’t have to ask every man before they touch theirs. Men simply don’t give a fuck about what …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:14 PM
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That’s all well and good but then you have men who get upset when the woman insists she has an orgasm too because he’s finished and over it. Or jealous of toys. Or just feels insulted because she mentions she’s not finished yet. It is selfishness ultimately when there is no concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:10 PM
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Maybe you have figured out part of why 30% of Gen Z women identify as lgbt. Women make women cum at nearly the same rate as straight men in relationships. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nearly-30-gen-z-women-identify-lgbtq-gallup-survey-finds-rcna143019
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:04 PM
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Or maybe they need clitoral stimulation like they have been saying since forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:59 PM
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Literally any woman who has been in a long term relationship knows this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:55 PM
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Exactly! And in a row occasionally. Imagine if every time you had sex, you had an exhaustive amount of orgasms. Maybe enough to satisfy you for an extended period of time!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:51 PM
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Or more like “transactional labors are only for men!”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:14 PM
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Where have you seen that? More like women have been fighting for the right to reject men for superficial reasons rather than having to be economically tied to an abusive husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:35 PM
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Having shallow sexual preferences has literally nothing to do with feminism and never has, don’t make things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:04 AM
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Now that we have the ability to choose or altogether avoid that type of behavior, why wouldn’t anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:01 AM
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Nope, there should be no draft at all. If you have a country worth living in, you have people living in it who would gladly defend it. Another thing feminists have fought for since the beginning was ending the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:29 PM
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Men have never had to deal with beauty standards before, and now that you have to be desirable to your partner you guys are losing your shit. Sure it was easier in the past for you to find an economically impoverished woman to buy from her family but thankfully it’s not like that anymore. Women are the ones who have been trying to get rid of gender roles because they overwhelmingly benefit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:28 PM
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Thanks for the contentless rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:36 AM
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Women just want to be treated as people equal to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:15 AM
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The prolific 80/20 is not featured anywhere in that article.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:12 AM
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Sex ≠ relationship. More people would like to use your body, not necessarily care about you as a person. Not to mention, most women are not being satisfied by men sexually during hookups. Sure sex is important to a relationship but they are not even close to the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:10 AM
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Original comment was just pointing out why men here are confusing the terms; they conflate them. I think it’s a different set of problems. Men have less opportunity for sex but are much more easily satisfied in that regard. Women are not generally satisfied by regular penetrative sex but can find it with ease. What good is sex that is ultimately not going to end in orgasm though? On the woman’s behalf, I don’t think this part is mentioned enough. The onus being on men to ask out a woman or to ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:59 AM
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They confuse courtship with lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:50 AM
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With sex? Does domestic labor get compensated, like raising children? Or maintaining a clean household full of fed people? Pretty sure those are labors of love that are outright ignored
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:49 AM
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Feminism has way more to it than the perpetual sexual assault of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:47 AM
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Got a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:46 AM
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It’s the only thing out of that list that they have had to ask for, even back when they could get away with raping their wives. Everything else is “women’s work” and expected of us womenfolk on account of our biology or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:46 AM
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Are you replying to the correct comment? I don’t think I ever made that claim. The OP claim was that “women have life on easy mode” and somehow that means they can have sex whenever they want. Being jealous that women have sex more easily than men is not “women’s life on easy mode” , it’s “easy access to mediocre at best, unsatisfying penetrative sex” and that feels unfair to men who have only ever done the penetrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:42 AM
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Okay, but you could still make money because not all of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:14 PM
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Those words mean the same thing to the men here. When they say “dating and relationships” they mean a consistent access to sex. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:12 PM
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Because if a gay man grabbed your ass it would be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:22 PM
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“By nature” is just bullshit. Men don’t cultivate intimate relationships with anyone which is why they are so bad at it when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:20 PM
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Because you can have sex more easily if you wanted to. So your life is easier than theirs by default, also they infantilize women and then tell you that you should be grateful they consider you a slightly smarter child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:18 PM
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They are obsessed with the “80/20 rule” that was from the OkCupid study and they use those numbers for whatever they think up. It doesn’t matter that they are misquoting the study when they reference it, or that those numbers don’t have any bearing on dating at large. It’s default.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:25 AM
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Actually yeah, it’s only when they do what they see in porn to unsuspecting women that it really becomes a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:35 PM
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Post partum psychosis is far more rare than misogynistic ideologies and violence. It’s also a form of psychosis, not an online ideology that recruits young and impressionable children, and there is no one praising their prolific levels of violence when babies get murdered. Holy false equivalence. Women do not perpetrate the level of violence on anyone, let alone children, that is comparable to what men do to women. Sexually Frustrated Mass Shooters: A Study of Perpetrators, Profiles, Behaviors, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:18 PM
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Women talk about it because this leads to women being murdered, its oftentimes a matter of life and death which is why so many women no longer put the onus on men at all, and would rather not enter relationships or marriages with men at all anymore. Misogyny kills women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:54 PM
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They simply don’t. The most common thing I hear from women is they like it when men take control in bed. Typically whoever asks for the date pays, the dominant submissive thing only exists in the bedroom, no one wants a man who acts like a hypermasculine tough guy dudebro. Sounds like you have seen this on the internet and not in real life. No adult woman is seriously asking for “princess treatment” from a man in this economy. If a woman tells you that it’s because she’s not interested. There’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:53 AM
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It’s really not though. You cannot infer a generality of women’s sexual preferences by what a small percentage of women read or look at. It has nothing at all to do with preferred reading material. I actually prefer that there are zero romantic plot lines for a main character. I also completely dislike romantic comedy movies, I do not care for sappy things in general and have no interest in dating reality shows. I have had successful long term relationships and have never been accused of being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:56 AM
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Some women are into romance novels. A lot of us aren’t. Personally I prefer sci fi. Trying to insinuate we all want something because a few women read romance novels is not equal to anything women “want” as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:33 AM
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That is not my experience at all. I hear men called incels for being misogynistic frequently, but not gay for lack of gender roles. Most of the women I know don’t want anything to do with traditional men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:21 AM
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With microphones and sponsorships, on stages and broadcasted from just about everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:17 AM
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Maybe a woman therapist? He’s got to practice with someone who understands his anxieties, where there is no pressure to “perform” because there is no chance of rejection or sexual contact. Practicing removing attraction or affection from the equation first, those are not necessary for interacting with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:13 AM
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On earth?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:43 AM
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I have never heard a woman describe bisexual or gay men as weak. That’s more of a male sentiment in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:41 AM
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Why the fuck are you being rude? Who said anything about married couples? You don’t have to be married to have kids, pregnancy happens during casual sex hookups all the time. You clearly don’t know who is hooking up on tinder or for one night stands, cause that isn’t how it works for most women who use the apps. The tiny fraction of women who are picking men for casual sex (cause most women don’t do casual hookups) are picking men based on superficial qualities because that is how OLD works. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:18 AM
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You can tell though even in this thread that most of these guys aren’t even interested in that. I have spoken to older women who have had children, who have never had an orgasm. There’s men who get offended that it’s not easy to make you cum, and then are doubly offended that you want to cum on your own when he can’t do it. I have had boyfriends jealous of my toys and throw them out when I was not home. I stopped entertaining that nonsense in my 20’s and I never will again. I have heard far too …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:36 AM
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None of that matters as much as if he understands that the clitoris is where women find pleasure. Doesn’t matter how you look or how long you hammer away, that is not going to satisfy any woman. 80% of women REQUIRE clitoral stimulation, outside of the vagina, which means that penetrative sex is not going to do it, his “size” is not as important as men swear it is. If he doesn’t actually do anything but try to look good and jack hammer as long as possible, then he is not going to be invited back…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:30 AM
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Those are not prerequisites at all for getting women into bed. Yet again this is obvious if you just go outside and look at couples who have kids. You would not look at the majority of those men and think they are the paragons of “masculinity and dominance”. Most of the time they are just average people, of average height and weight with average looks living average lives. These ideas you keep repeating are online absolutist bullshit. It is not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:38 PM
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No you are completely right. Oftentimes men will say something that betrays they have no idea or interest in what feels good to a woman. Basically telling on themselves. The little innuendos and jokes women will make around men they are interested in are about whether or not he’s even understanding of them. Most of the time men learn everything from porn and you can tell as soon as they start talking about sex in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:35 PM
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Attractive men are no better at giving a woman an orgasm. If the sex is unsatisfying, I don’t give a shit what you look like, I am not inviting you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:32 PM
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Being attracted to someone isn’t going to give a woman an orgasm like it does for men. Women need a lot of external stimulation and penetrative sex is not a common way women orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:29 AM
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I never claimed otherwise. You must also admit that having easier access does not guarantee you will find a quality partner though, long term or short term.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:30 PM
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It’s not a lie. Confident men are able to overcome quite a lot of other bad attributes. This is not new information to most people. Being smooth will get you the girl, (at least at first) news at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:29 PM
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There are very, very few women who are carefree about casual sex in the way men like to believe. It’s just not worth it. Sex with men is not satisfying for most women, especially with a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:24 PM
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Women don’t care for sex with strangers or random sexual encounters like men do. Vibrators and being alone is actually preferable in some cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:22 PM
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So? These are programs for men to regain housing. Didn’t realize that it was only supposed to list off programs to house them currently; my bad lol you insinuate no one is interested in the wellbeing of men and that’s clearly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:48 AM
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Why are you lying? Yes there are. There’s a bunch more but here’s a few for example : https://uncledaveshousing.net/ https://svdpla.org/mens-shelter-community-center/ https://www.salvationarmyusa.org/homelessness/mens-shelter/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:43 AM
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I find it so funny that you guys insist there needs to be a “strong physical attraction” first when women will repeatedly tell you otherwise. Of course, everyone wants to be attracted to their partner but it’s not always the first thing that happens. You guys focus on looks first but it doesn’t mean women do. I know many women who married men who they were not initially attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:26 PM
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You have to tell them with words that you want exclusivity. You are not entitled to have it just because you feel like you should. Very bizarre
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:01 PM
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Assimilation is often for survival or acceptance, even if the result is harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:06 PM
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They like the appearance of righteousness, though. Not too interested in the actual definition but instead substitute their owned warped one so they can use it as a cudgel. No need for morals when you have aesthetics. “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:18 AM
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Fame doesn’t have to be for good reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:02 AM
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I think that is probably also correct? Except one is inherent to their biology and the other isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:01 AM
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I am not. No one is chasing men. That is a male fantasy. You bring up famous or successful people and I am saying that fame and success are often chased.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:27 AM
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This is not exclusive to men, or attractive people who are famous or successful. This is just something that is true for famous and/or successful people, they aren’t being chased because they are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:34 AM
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That’s chasing fame, not men. Isn’t it always said how no one would want jay z if he wasn’t famous? It’s got nothing to do with the man, really ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:22 AM
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That goes for any famous person. If you are jealous of having mentally ill stalkers, that’s a little sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:12 AM
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Which is why so many modern women are choosing themselves and remaining single, educated, and owning their own homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:08 AM
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My source is Merriam Webster, the oldest dictionary in the United States. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/righteous Your Contentless rhetoric is very boring. Worshipping capital because you can’t get pussy only makes you bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:37 AM
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Speak for yourself, define “righteous” for a conservative. I am using the standard definition agreed upon by the majority of people. Righteous adj. 1 : acting in accord with divine or moral law : free from guilt or sin a righteous person leads a righteous life 2 : morally right or justifiable a righteous decision/judgment/cause … the movie takes a righteous approach vis-à-vis this Catholic sect's transgressions. —Peter Debruge b : arising from an outraged sense of justice or morality righteous i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:28 AM
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Still, not “righteous” unless you’re doing that thing where you substitute your own definitions for words again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:58 AM
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You mean SupplySideJesus? Since empathy is a sin for conservatives now. They worship wealth and capital instead these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:52 AM
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Conservatives only cosplay as righteous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:08 AM
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I have never seen a feminist make this claim
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:27 PM
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No one is chasing men. Thats male fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:23 PM
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Women don’t hate and want to kill men because they are lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:00 AM
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Soon enough they’ll be for sale.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:59 PM
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Men are not interested in children that they father, or otherwise. They don’t want babies unless they come attached to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 11:58 PM
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Pretty widespread though. That’s why you’re outcast if you can’t “get women”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 12:33 AM
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Yes it is true. Only 18% of women orgasm from penetration alone and it’s exclusively women who have sex with men, who don’t have orgasms. Women in lesbian relationships orgasm as frequently as straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 12:12 AM
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Attractiveness doesn’t just involve your bone structure and other unchangeable characteristics like it’s popular to claim here. There are many attributes to a person or their character or demeanor can make them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 06:36 PM
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I am a woman around this age, and my point is that a 22 year old has no adult experience in dating whatsoever. So it doesn’t make sense to assume they are writing these articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 06:28 PM
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You would expect an article to be written by a teenager / early 20’s kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 06:55 PM
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Womens work has only increased in that time, doing all domestic labor on top of working full time. Would be better if things were more equitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:57 AM
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I never claimed to have “factual math” involved. You did though, soo… Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:35 AM
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