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So we're all comfortable with identifying TRP as the male Cosmo? I think I could get on board with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 03:30 PM
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Both sexes have been manipulating each other, as well as other members of their own sex, since the beginning of time. Not really sure why you think there's some sort of revolution going on when you advocate for manipulating women.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 03:23 PM
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I think we probably agree and I'm just expressing my point poorly. I do see merit in taking a step back and looking at yourself, the other person, the circumstances, etc. The reason I made the point is that I find it annoying when a guy gets cheated on and is hurting, and some people feel the need to put the blame on him. Sure, maybe there are things he could do differently to improve his situation next time, but it can come off as an attempt to deflect responsibility from the cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 07:00 PM
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Let's be honest, some of you guys and girls make plenty of appearances in other subs. Acting like you only get trolled and never dish it out is extremely dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 04:18 PM
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I never said it was a bad idea to try to understand it. I think in lots of cases, it can be very helpful. But I disagree with the (very extreme) BP notion that, if you get cheated on, you must have done something wrong and take responsibility for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 04:16 PM
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I don't think it's wrong for any person to do whatever the hell they want to with their bodies. If she wants to feel like a virgin, more power to her. If she were asked if she was a virgin and explicitly lied about it, that's absolutely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 03:54 PM
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The short answer is that anyone who feels compelled to identify with a colored pill ideology is a complete and utter moron. To accept an ideology and all of its tenants without questioning, testing or evaluating them is dumb. And ideological morons hate other ideological morons if they don't have the same moronic ideology. The longer answer is that both sides try to package the positive, beneficial portions of their philosophies with the negative. TRP is totally correct that a man will be more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 03:47 PM
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I bet Chad also doesn't feel the need to identify himself as "alpha," because the most alpha thing you can do is not give a shit whether or not other people consider you alpha.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 12:53 AM
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Anxiously awaiting OP's brilliant response to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 11:43 AM
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I'm fairly certain that the one thing all of history's great leaders had in common is that they didn't concern themselves with identifying with a pill color.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 04:38 PM
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All the married people I know are going to be shocked to find out that marriage collapsed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 04:37 PM
3

Christ's limit is nine dicks before he gets upset?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 04:36 PM
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You guys have an easy time talking about the disadvantages of being kind to people, but I hardly ever see TRPers acknowledge the advantages. If you believe the disadvantages outweigh the advantages, that's fine. It's just baffling that you have such a hard time comprehending people who decided the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 07:04 PM
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I don't see it that way. I don't believe a woman can accurately comment on what it is like to be a man. I don't think her perspective of my experience is more valid than my perspective of hers. I think her perspective of her world is valid, and my perspective of mine is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 05:53 PM
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Hasn't lost its message? Don't you guys constantly wind up on the defensive, having to explain that people who post incredibly violent and rapey shit are "not representative of TRP" or are just going through an "anger phase," and other nonsense like that? It is also quite silly to believe the number of subscribers are representative of the number of people in the world who think TRP is great, and those who don't. TBP isn't some sort of philosophy that is meant to counter TRP; it's literally a pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 02:49 PM
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No, you focus on how to manipulate insecure women. Points for effectiveness, certainly. But I'll take the well-adjusted women in mutually respectful relationships any day. That's just me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 01:41 AM
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PREACH, SISTER.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:38 PM
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Operative word: "might." And I never said I disagreed. I said you're not leaving any room for people who gravitate toward feminism for intellectual or personal reasons, and not for biochemical reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 09:11 PM
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We were talking about male feminists, were we not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 08:29 PM
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I get very annoyed when I see that stuff on TBP. To be honest, it's happening more frequently and it's really annoying. I would rather not see people attack TRPers, especially those who are clearly dealing with pain and insecurity. There's no excuse for being a dick, no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 08:22 PM
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Most people who criticize TRP don't consider themselves to be a "pill," because they don't think the world is divided into those who have taken the red pill, and those who haven't. There are people -- feminist or not -- who think TRP stands for something pretty deplorable. These people aren't a "pill," so to speak. The Blue Pill, as a sub, is literally there to showcase some of the absurdities that come out of The Red Pill. It's for people who have stumbled across TRP and think to themselves "ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 08:20 PM
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Do you make any room for men whose SMV, testosterone, etc. is average or high, who simply find feminism to be aligned with their views of the world? It seems disingenuous to write off the possibility that some people legitimately feel that way, not as a result of their biochemistry or social standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 08:18 PM
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Hasn't been for me. Sorry your experience was so negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 05:01 PM
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You should take me on as a case study, it's happened to me about seven times since college.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:47 PM
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What attracts people to TBP is seeing how inane a lot of TRP is, and wanting to make fun of it. What attracts me to feminism is the fact that I do not believe my experience as a white, straight male is applicable to people who are not those things, and it's important to me to understand what is different so I can better relate to others. Reading and talking about feminism has helped me understand how women see the world. To be honest, it's the same reason I read TRP. As someone who is not strugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:30 PM
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I realize I'm being an anecdotologist by saying this, but I have to disagree with your statement that being friends with a girl lands you permanently on the friendzone. A good amount of my hookups and relationships have come from being friends with the girl first. And plenty of other times, I had female friends express interest but it didn't lead to anything, because I was in a relationship or something like that. Worshipping a girl and fawning after her from the friendzone is definitely a bad a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:26 PM
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If you wanted a discussion, why didn't you bother to ask a question?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 06:13 PM
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She's not gonna get money if he's the one caring for the kid, idiot.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 03:51 AM
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I don't think it's unreasonable to say that, if protection is being used, you have an obligation to stop or tell your partner if that protection fails and you become aware of it. Whether it's the girl or the guy suggesting protection, you're going into the encounter with the assumption that you're protected from STDs and such. So if the condom breaks and you realize it, reassess the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 03:07 PM
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Why did you post this in a sub labeled as "debate?" This is just a little soapbox for you to brag about how you pushed the buttons of someone who was a dick to your loved ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 03:02 PM
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That's nice, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 06:25 PM
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Sure it comes with costs. But you have the freedom to decide which you want. If your spouse literally refuses sex, he or she doesn't owe you that. But you can choose to stay or go. It might suck to give up everything, but it's your call.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 04:59 AM
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I don't know if I would call cheating "abuse." I would call it "wrong." If sex is important enough to you that you don't want a monogamous relationship, that's fine. You can always leave. I don't find your first scenario to be abuse. Be honest about what you need. I guess it could be seen as an ultimatum depending on how you express it, but if you're honestly saying "sex is important to me, and I can't be in a relationship that consistently lacks it," I think that's fine. Your partner can weigh …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 01:48 AM
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I literally just told you that I don't have time to read two definitions of a six-letter word. How the fuck am I supposed to find time to create a full river for you???? Your requests are becoming unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 06:19 PM
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It sounds like you didn't turn her into a doormat. She's doing it because she wants to. Therefore, we agree. Why so upset?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 06:13 PM
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The noun or the adjective? I don't have time for both, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 06:11 PM
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Okay, I did. What now? Do I click one of these blue links?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 06:04 PM
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Are we playing Totally Irrelevant Analogy? Is it my turn? Eating candy on Halloween is okay, but eating candy on Labor Day isn't! Am I doing this right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 05:55 PM
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First of all, I think you probably wind up more confused when you assume an entire ideology completely accepts that notion. I consider myself a feminist, but I have long disagreed with the overriding idea that rape is about power, and not sex. I also don't think it is exclusively feminists who believe that; there are tons of people in society who buy the idea that rape is about power. Secondly, I think that narrative gets reinforced because the most gruesome and well-known examples of rape ARE m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 05:50 PM
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Withholding sex by choice as a means of manipulation, revenge, etc. would be a form of abuse. Simply being disinterested or unwilling is certainly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 05:40 PM
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The fact that you see no difference and consider the contrast to be made-up is actually kinda funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 05:31 PM
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If you and your girlfriend agree that she should do all the household chores, you have my full support. If you stubbornly believe you're owed "X Y Z" because you do "A B C" and that's the end of the conversation, I'll be sitting here chuckling while you struggle to figure out why she seems to harbor some unspoken disdain for you. And of course TBP has a problem with turning a woman into a doormat, that inherently seems to mean you've intentionally manipulated her to bend to your will. If you guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 03:56 PM
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I've never intentionally applied anything from TRP, but before I had even heard of TRP, I used a few. Dread game was one I used in my early 20s. It was a disaster and left permanent damage on the relationship. It was incredibly immature and while it may have worked to keep her attention in the short-term, it left a bad taste in her mouth that ultimately distanced her down the line. Would not recommend. Later on, while growing out of my immature stage, I learned the equivalent of "keeping frame" …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 01:58 PM
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Whatever you discuss and determine to be the fair division of household chores is the fair division of household chores. There isn't a correct answer to this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 01:53 PM
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No, it's a definition of race and racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 07:39 PM
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Being wary of black people isn't what makes you racist. The assumption that they're more likely to commit a crime because they are black is what makes you racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 03:24 PM
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What should motivate you is your reaction to being dumped/cheated on/rejected. If it absolutely destroyed you and sent you into a violent, hateful, pathetic spiral, then you weren't a person who was ready to be in that kind of relationship. That doesn't make it your fault, of course. She's the one who screwed you over. But it should motivate you to become more confidence in yourself, and to build the kind of confidence that can't be ripped to shreds by rejection. If you're dating someone because…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 06:13 PM
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When it comes down to it, I trust my own judgment. You can come up with formulas and theories about partner count and tattoos and all that jazz, and probably find plenty of confirmation bias that you're correct. But there is also truth to the notion that, when you apply those generalities, you're going to miss out on a lot of really awesome women. Or, worse, you're going to lose an awesome women thanks to your own insecurity or entitlement. I find my own judgment to be better than RP generalitie…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 03:15 PM
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I see feminism as the acknowledgment that certain elements of society are unfairly structured to favor men, and the belief that those elements should be corrected. I have no trouble considering myself a feminist despite being a man, because I personally believe that equal opportunity is very important. I also have no trouble considering myself a feminist despite believing that equal punishment for crimes, more fair treatment of men in custody battles, etc. are also important social issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 03:08 PM
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I'm confident in myself, try to be the best man I can be, and make sure the woman understands how important she is to me and that I see us as a team. If that's not good enough to keep her around, then she's someone I'm totally okay with losing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 01:32 AM
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Best of luck to you. Don't do yourself a disservice and think you need to accept it and repress your emotions, but also don't simply throw away something good because of things that happened before she met you. The best relationship I ever had was with a girl who had a sketchier history than anyone else I dated. She was a phenomenal girlfriend and we only broke up because I moved to another state for work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:47 PM
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Guessing this is trolling, but it's a conceivable scenario so a response is valid. First look at yourself. Have you been totally honest about your sexual history? Or have you painted a more rosey picture for her in some way (either convincing her you were more studly than you actually were, or more wholesome)? If you've crafted a narrative, then you probably understand to some degree why she did the same. You probably felt inclined to show her the type of guy you are with her now, rather than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 05:38 PM
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If that's been your experience, allow me to be the first to tell you that you don't seem to bring very much to a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 03:17 PM
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Well yeah, but that's literally true of everything she says and does, and everything you say and do. You can always qualify an argument with "assuming that she's being honest and genuine..." but then you've pretty much eliminated the basis of the discussion. My assumption in my example is that the girl is accurately describing her history, same as any hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:55 PM
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What are your feelings on women who sleep around a lot but generally don't get into relationships? Personally, I can accept the notion that a girl (or guy) who dates and cheats, dates and cheats perpetually is bad LTR material (unless it was way, way in the past, because people grow up). But a girl (or guy) who intentionally stays out of relationships while they sleep around actually seems to be great LTR material to me. It indicates that she sees relationships as valuable and is not flippant ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:45 PM
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Few people think you should be ashamed of your privileges. More likely, that you should acknowledge them and recognize that others have a different experience than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:09 PM
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The most effective thing to do when it comes to LTR is to think about shit you've done in the past and whether or not you're the same person now. I'm 27 now and I'm pretty fucking different than I was when I was 21. So I find it very dumb to assume that some girl who banged her way through the frat house in college is still doing the same thing six years later, even if she seems like a perfectly down-to-Earth person. Don't base your impressions on someone's past. Base them on what you learn abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 02:33 PM
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So, if your analogy is to be taken as truth, would we have to slut-shame a guy who was incredibly good-looking and charming and slept with tons of girls, while praising a very plain, out-of-shape girl who managed to sleep with tons of guys? Or is it possible that maybe, just maybe, people slut-shame women because they're insecure guys (and girls) who hate thinking about the idea that they aren't the first person to get a crack at the girl in question?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 02:28 PM
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I don't think women need to be broken down. That's my point. The abusive relationships referenced by OP are the cases of breaking someone down, typically someone who is already on the verge anyway. Things like dread game are breaking someone down (for both men and women). My point is that OP is not acknowledge the huge number of relationships that don't require that sort of thing, which include relationships that you would consider both RP and BP and everything in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 09:05 PM
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I honestly have no clue what part of my post you're responding to when you say "that much work."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 08:30 PM
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I'm not moving any goal posts. I was asking the user above about the scenario he was describing, not responding to the original post. I was very clear about that in my comment. Your icy road analogy is flawed. Of course there is nothing wrong with teaching a driver how to handle dangerous conditions. To imply that teaching men that all women are constantly searching to obtain a more successful, attractive man than her current partner is the equivalent of teaching cautious driving is downright si…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 08:28 PM
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If only that group could do so without teaching men that a woman's worst qualities and actions are representative of the whole population. I doubt any person on the planet has any objection to men becoming confident, fit, secure and independent. If you still think that's all TRP espouses, you have a very bad case of hearing what you want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 03:01 PM
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I have a question about the exact scenario you're describing. The way it seems, you feel we should overlook the guy's bitterness about being misled, because he was taught improperly how to behave, and we should be angry at the girl for misleading him. Have you ever considered the fact that she, too, might not know any better? It's possible, even likely, that she genuinely thinks he would be a great catch for any other girl. I've felt this way about female friends I wasn't interested in before; I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 02:08 PM
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This is yet another case where the AWALT theory that red pillers proclaim yet again causes mass confusion. You honestly appear to think that the state of women is this: either you break them down and keep them loyal to you, or you let them exist and they betray you. Have you considered that maybe these are different types of women? That maybe the women who end up in abusive relationships are broken, desperate people and those who become disloyal and abusive themselves might be the type to target…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 01:57 PM
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Great advice that TRP will never take to heart. Doing something difficult is not really their specialty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 01:52 PM
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Absolutely not, because part of the agreement upon donation is that they are not the legal guardian of the child. The recipient has to undergo a process to ensure that she and her spouse (if she has one) can adequately provide for the child. That's totally different than knocking some woman up and expecting not to have to take responsibility. Not to mention the fact that there are legal options for the father to give up paternity. So that's basically already covered. It's just not as simple as s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 11:32 PM
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She is supposed to support it. They both are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 11:20 PM
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Because it's not a health matter for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 11:20 PM
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Because the man is just as responsible as the woman for creating the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 07:48 PM
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The point of legalizing abortion was that all individuals have agency over their own health care. A person is not legally required to subject themselves to pregnancy and the health factors that come with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 07:40 PM
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Because rather than leave some child hung out to dry because you don't feel like helping, you should actually take responsibility for the consequences of your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 07:38 PM
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If she doesn't want to subject her body to pregnancy, that's her choice. If she keeps it, then that kid has two parents and both have responsibilities. That's literally the fairest position there is. Much more fair than allowing another person to have a say in what you do with your body, and much more fair than leaving a kid supported by only one parent because one of them didn't feel like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 06:23 PM
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Why the fuck would another person have a say in a person's agency over their own health?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 06:07 PM
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Yeah, what a shitty system we have where parents are responsible for their offspring and kids are supported. How did it come to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 05:50 PM
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I'm guessing (once again, just a guess) that the campaign is named as such as a response to the popular narrative about teaching girls not to get raped (don't drink too much, don't dress certain ways, etc) which is an obvious form of directing blame from the perpetrator to the victim. Your proposed name is a more honest one regarding the actual goals of the campaign. I'm sure your hypothetical "don't be a slut" campaign would get backlash, though the content would probably be a more sensible tar…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 04:06 PM
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Perhaps it's just my interpretation, but I've never thought of the "teach men not to rape" campaign as something targeting violent rape. If it were, then I would definitely agree that it's insulting to me as a man that the campaign assumes I need a lesson. My understanding is that the campaign's goal is to bring to light instances of sexual assault that are not commonly thought of as rape, like getting a girl wasted and taking advantage of her, or feeling you're entitled to sex whenever you want…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 03:32 PM
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If your argument is that human nature gives us the ability to behave in certain ways, prior to us making choices not to behave those ways based on morality, I don't suppose I can argue with you. But that's a pointless claim to make. In that case, it's okay to assume men are basically rapists because AMALT, because we are genetically encoded with rape as a legitimate reproductive strategy. As a man, the notion that all men are rapists would offend the shit out of me, because for 90% of my sex, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 06:56 PM
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I agree with pretty much everything you've been saying. It's important to note that I'm not arguing from a legal standpoint; the issue of drunk sex and consent is so cloudy that I will freely admit, I don't have an answer I'm satisfied with, much less an answer that I would expect others to be satisfied with. My argument is from a moral standpoint; in a sense, this is what I would teach my son. If you're partying with a girl you like and you both have a few drinks together and end up deciding to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 05:13 PM
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As a general point, I agree with you. Writing off an entire mindset because you can identify a handful of problems is silly. Here's why TRP is different to me. The name (the Matrix reference) implies that people are clueless about the "nature" of women until they start reading up on TRP thinking. As if they have tapped into something totally foreign. Some TRP stuff works, primarily because it isn't just TRP stuff. Staying in shape. Maintaining frame in most cases. Being independent and not putti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 04:02 PM
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Here's the problem with your argument: to run a successful pickup, you only have to be right one time. You walk into a bar. You get your PUA tactics in order. You focus in on a girl, do great, take her home. What did you prove? You proved PUA works on that one girl. You didn't prove it works on her best friend, or the group of girls sitting at the table next to them, or anyone else. Yet, because of AWALT, you're claiming that you proved it works on the other girls too. The only things you truly …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 03:12 PM
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No. Because All Women Are Like This is a label, or an accusation. It isn't accurate. It may be that a majority of women prefer tall, muscular men. But some women prefer skinny guys. Some prefer shorter guys. Just because you found the generality doesn't mean you've accurately described the population as a whole. Here's the other problem with your post: on the TRP subreddit, AWALT is used to describe a wide range of behavior in women. Not just what works when it comes to picking up a girl at a ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 02:36 PM
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No, because PUA is measured against your ability to pick up women prior to learning it. Not against the population as a whole. You learn what to do and what not to do. And you get a confirmation bias. A year ago, you could talk to five girls in a night and suffer five rejections. Now, you talk to two girls and go home with the second. But you didn't go home with the first. So, clearly all women are not like this. It's about bettering your odds. Think of it like baseball. You learn to adjust your…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:58 PM
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I don't think TRP stands a chance, because it's a phase. It's perfect for men who are recently wounded or recently frustrated by women. It offers decent advice in terms of becoming more independent and sure of oneself (to a point). But living and dating by the majority of TRP insights is a ticking time bomb. Sure, it's great to maintain frame, but if you're constantly testing your partner and convincing yourself that you're entitled to XYZ 24/7, then eventually it breaks down. Normal people get …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:54 PM
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Because you're wrong to automatically assume everything is a shit test. Skinhead neo-Nazis exist. You would be wrong to declare anyone with a shaved head to be a skinhead, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:50 PM
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Dread Game is a shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:49 PM
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As an extension of what you said, I also think that intentionally getting someone drunk or high to lower their inhibitions is predatory in nature, and therefore is rape in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 04:08 PM
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I think if you're the type of person who insists on establishing which is worse, then you're someone who should not be commenting on either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 04:03 PM
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Non-TRPer here. I guess you could call me TBP, though assigning a colored pill to your perspective on sex and dating is just silly to me. When it comes down to it, some women are just going to assume the sex will be bad or awkward because it's your first time. That's probably due to personal experience, or the anecdotes of others. They may remember awkward high school sex, or a guy whose v-card they took who got very clingy afterward. That's just how it is, regardless of whether or not that accu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 03:59 PM
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If your "treating women like a child" is the same as my "playful flirting," then I am definitely wrong on the definition of at least one of those terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 12:01 AM
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Fair point. Cheers to you. Best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 07:01 PM
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I don't disagree with you. I wasn't always like this, of course. I've been cheated on twice; once by a girl who was a virgin prior, once by a girl who had a more extensive history. It took time and maturity to not get destroyed by it, but I also strongly believe in not forcing the next girl to pay for the sins of the last one. That's a personal philosophy for me, and I feel I'm a better partner since I adopted it. Again, I do understand that this is important for some men. I don't deny there is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 06:50 PM
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My lone point is that I do not care who a girl has slept with, or how many. It simply doesn't affect me. For me, a woman's level of "chastity" holds no meaningful value. Likewise, my ability to brush it off if a girl cheats on me is no different whether she was a virgin beforehand, or was extremely promiscuous. Either way, I'll be fine and move on. Statistics like "likelihood to cheat in the future based on sexual history" are probably very helpful for people who are so terrified of being cheate…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 06:28 PM
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Having a "philosophy" to subscribe to is dumb. No one should be trying to live by the guidelines of TRP or TBP or any -ism or anything like that. When it comes to dating, it's really as simple as three things: 1) Work on yourself until you're a version of you that you are proud of. 2) Be true to what you want out of life. 3) Be kind, no matter what. No going above and beyond to please people. No manipulating emotions. No fearing vulnerability. No getting destroyed if things go badly. All of this…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 06:01 PM
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Lucky for them, it doesn't seem like they're missing out on a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 05:52 PM
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Not sure why it matters what color pill or what Greek letter you use to describe their behavior. It's creepy, it's coercive, it's unhealthy and it's wrong. Being that way is moronic no matter which "philosophy" you subscribe to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 04:34 PM
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If the person I'm dating acts like a bitter, manipulative asshole, then that's what she is regardless of whether she was a virgin when I met her, or the town bicycle. If she is a sweet, caring, open and loyal person, then that's how she will behave. You miss out on quite a few good people by crossing them off the list for having boned guys prior to dating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 08:17 PM
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And yet it literally has more basis in reality than your original argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 03:03 PM
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Personally, I can't answer this question because you haven't told me a single thing about these women that distinguishes them from one another in terms of what I care about. If all other things are equal (looks, personality, compatibility), then these women are virtually the same to me. Partner count means absolutely nothing to me. Duration of relationships means nothing to me. Age means virtually nothing to me, though I'll admit I would probably stay away from younger girls just because I'm in …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 02:23 PM
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True, but even with solitary hobbies, when you do meet someone elsewhere in life, you have something interesting about yourself to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 02:17 PM
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Finding someone genuine is a challenge regardless of their sexual history. No reason to assume that a girl (or guy) who had their fun in their early 20s is somehow a bitter, manipulative asshole if they aren't showing any signs of it (in the hypothetical presented, the girl genuinely loved him and just happened to have a high partner count). And trust me, if you're all upset about how many dudes a girl boned before you came along, you are very, very far from alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 01:56 PM
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Problem is, there isn't really a centralized posting place for marriages and relationships that fail thanks to TRP tactics. Thus, confirmation bias. Additionally, there are inevitably going to be some success stories that are wrongfully attributed to TRP thinking on the whole. TRP does not have a monopoly on working out or "keeping frame." I could very well adopt those elements - go to the gym more, make it a point to not take my insecurities out on my partner - but that's advice you would get a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 01:50 PM
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He's best off not caring about stupid shit like "partner count." If he can be with a girl who does genuinely care for him but had a ton of sex when she was younger, and he doesn't get his ego all bruised by the thought that she's been with other guys, then he's already much more alpha than any of the guys here who get scared off when they find out their girlfriends were party animals in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 01:41 PM
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Wow, this would be a really insightful point if it weren't being made about fictional characters whose actions are determined by guys in a writer's room and not their upbringing.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/14 03:22 PM
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She sounds like a great girl. Since you clearly cannot deal with her past and want to get rid of her, do you mind giving me her number?
/r/askTRP02/12/14 09:03 PM
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To each his own. I'm glad to hear you and your wife are happier thanks to the changes you've made. I'm glad that I'm happier with the changes I've made. Cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 09:01 PM
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You very well may have a more robust understanding of evolutionary bio than me, though I'm no moron in that field (BS in Ev Anthro). Like I said, there are elements of it that I totally buy. Perhaps I'm taking things a step too far; when it comes to "self-improvement," which is what TRP claims to focus on, I would consider the endgame to be "happiness." Lots of guys who subscribe to TRP thinking do so because they're miserable otherwise. But I don't buy that we, as social animals (and I'm sure y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 08:09 PM
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Sorry, but convincing yourself that your wife is one weak moment away from getting gangbanged all over town because AWALT is not that path to intimacy. The self-improvement aspect is effective. Compartmentalize your emotions. Keep yourself healthy. Don't be petty. None of those things are exclusively TRP traits, not are they in conflict with feminism. It's the reduction of your wife to series (poorly understood) series of biological impulses is what is insane about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 04:06 PM
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Holding frame is keeping yourself under control. It's not exclusive to TRP, nor is it exclusive to sexual relationships. Treating a woman like a child is effective if you're targeting someone who is easily manipulated and insecure in her own right. It's a decent way to get laid a few times by someone who doesn't have their shit together. It tends to fall apart if you're looking for something long-term, intimate and meaningful. If you believe you win the game by racking up points in the form of b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 09:12 PM
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No one needs The Red Pill. No one of any height.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 07:43 PM
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You're trying to make a real-world claim and your best example is a person who doesn't exist. That's a terrible way to support your argument. You don't get "Robins who are miserable with their jobs" from feminism, you get them from a writer's room on a sitcom set.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/14 09:37 PM
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You know HIMYM was a fictional show, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/14 09:12 PM
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