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Yes and I would like to see another 60s-esque spiritual revolution in which all the men gather at festivals and take lots of acid while women work all the shit jobs that no one wants and become depressed. If we get horny we can fuck fleshlights and watch VR porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 04:58 PM
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Is there a point to this thread, like a CMV, or is this just a humblebrag? I don't really get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 12:27 AM
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No I just despise wimps and posers. You can be 'beta' and still not be an idiot or a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 08:35 PM
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To be honest, you just sound like a rich loser with a book deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:33 PM
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Silly little children often get their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:25 PM
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My old campus has started a campaign stamping out 'harassment' such as brushing a woman's shoulder when she doesn't like it (srs) Dude, that's a good thing. Feminism won't stop because it will never be content with anything. The less they have to change the more ridiculous the things they'll look to change will become and the more people will turn away from and be repulsed by feminism. Seriously, feminism is nothing to worry about for the overwhelming majority of men. Feminists are silly little …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:09 PM
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Choose a smarter mouth. but also just omg, it happens pretty rarely so just stop worrying about it, shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 08:05 PM
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It's not that I don't oppose them, just that I'm not going to piss my pants over them, the only way to beat them is to stay a step ahead of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 07:52 PM
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put your willy in a girl's mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 07:51 PM
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That's not going to happen though. It doesn't mean ridiculous shit won't happen, it just means that you can still live a normal life and be fine, just gotta be smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 07:42 PM
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22 To be fair, the only emotion I ever regularly see in other people is lust so I don't have the practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 07:13 PM
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TRP is not authoritarian, and even bloopers couldn't make such a bold claim. It doesn't matter what they think is better, they're not ordering anyone to do anything. TRP is firmly individualistic anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 07:07 PM
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Be smart enough to avoid situations in which you could be accused of abuse, don't associate with morons basically. Beat feminists and authoritarians by just being happier than they are and showing it, it's not hard to do. This shit is really inevitable. Don't try to fight feminism, it's a bullshit movement and it'll trip itself up by itself by making women increasingly more miserable. Be a step ahead of the game and just roll with it. They're playing a game and have made the mistake of not reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 07:06 PM
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I think I could go for a long time. I'm an adorable British boy with a young looking face, not some gross RP bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:48 PM
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I won't even flair up because of it, word.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:47 PM
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You won't get into heaven until you submit to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:06 PM
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Serious question, would you fuck Jesus?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:05 PM
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I don't really see how being middle class and at university makes you a loser? Oh, because they don't have financial success yet? I don't think they give a shit, they can't be losing if they're not in the race.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:04 PM
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Finally someone gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 02:18 AM
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Nothing anyone says anonymously online is impressive or cool, everyone know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 02:15 AM
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You just did it again haha, stop ignoring my point. Or do whatever I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 01:53 AM
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Exactly, people are forgetting that most teenagers are a bunch of wimps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 01:49 AM
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You are simply not getting the fact that a generalisation is a thought exercise. I seriously think you should look up what that word actually means. You could make a generalisation about ten trillion people if you thought they shared certain fundamental characteristics. You keep ignoring that point (maybe you just don't understand it, admit it if you don't) and then saying that I don't have an argument. It's a bizarre thing to behold. I have already given several reasons as to my reasoning, so i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 01:45 AM
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Do you even understand what "double standard" means? Double standard is when you have two different opinions on two different situations/things that are the same Of course I understand what it means, I just disagree that they aren't similar enough to warrant me calling you out on the double standard. 100,000 TRPers have similarities between them that 100,000 other people randomly selected would not have in common. So what? So do religious people. I'm not saying that they are just as varied in be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 01:23 AM
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Key word being 'consent' here...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 12:35 AM
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100,000 is a shitload of people and loads of RPers here have different views about women and other things. Also, TRP's self-defining, thorough and comprehensive "rules", self-policing community, overwhelming similar demographics, and common ideology. This is pretty much what most religions are, Islam is a great example. You have double standards for TRP and for other things, it's unbelievably obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 12:32 AM
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The comparison is pretty unimportant. There's no reason why it's not okay to generalise billions or people but it is okay to generalise 100,000. No reason at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 12:16 AM
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Yeah but where are you drawing the line? Where it suits your argument, it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 12:12 AM
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Let's be real, if you were religious and the icon for your religion was an attractive chick you'd for sure be in love with her. I lose my mind over chicks in films that I like, I can't imagine what would happen if the fucking daughter of god or whatever was a babe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 11:44 PM
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Good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 11:29 PM
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Do you see a fucking flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 11:22 PM
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It's more than that man. He's literally playing his game (but on a pretty bold scale), I've done it before. It's why guys should never talk about this stuff and essentially pretend to be completely ignorant of it. His is a clever move man, because he's not entirely wrong, he's just left out all the bits that make him look bad, and keep the bits that make him look good. Girls who get to know him will see that he's a real seducer, not like those other 'fake losers'. Girls hate PUA, and here they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 11:22 PM
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I don't really disagree with it though. I would never get laid if it weren't a little bit true. Yes, lots of girls like me, but they keep trying to go out with me instead of just fucking and moving on. If being outrageous and charming didn't work wonders then I don't think I'd do that well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 11:18 PM
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What I think she's saying is that she'd rather be with the best Casanova than the most alpha RPer. The problem is that a Casanova isn't just someone who's emotive, Casanova's are sex animals masquerading as classy, witty people. You're not going to friendzone a Casanova because he doesn't care if you don't like him, he just moves on. He's everything about seduction without all of the lifting and other RP shit. The guy isn't saying to love women, that's just paying lip service, he's saying to lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 11:14 PM
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Nailed it. It's the ultimate 'fuck you'. By completely disparaging any kind of sexual strategy or importance of understanding sexual dynamics, he not only gets to piss off his competition, but he gets women to like him even more. Since PUA became well-known the game has become about who has the best game without it showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 11:05 PM
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For real? You look fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 11:00 PM
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Who made this a CMV? My view here cannot be changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 10:58 PM
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The whole point of a casanova is that he is so charming that he can get with pretty much any woman. Casanovas don't get friendzoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 10:57 PM
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That's what I mean tho, the Church invented our image and understanding of Jesus to control women's vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 10:53 PM
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Sneaky delete, tell me you missed it. It's nice to know that I'm exactly your type though. I have that lovely upper-middle class London accent that American girls love.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 07:43 PM
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Nothing beats a british accent though, I don't know why they are so irresistible but they are <3 <3
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 07:35 PM
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Ugh, come on man, open your mind a little bit. You don't think there's an incredibly strong correlation between victims of bullying and unattractive people?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 04:53 PM
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Dude, if you're going to pull the 'I just don't care card' then you at least have to have some kind of proof that it is because you just don't care. I genuinely don't care and have still managed to stumble into some vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 04:51 PM
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Hell, I had a business that made hundreds of thousands in revenue and wrote a book and paid my own way So happy with your success that you've gone online to talk shit about college guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 04:48 PM
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but people not wanting to sleep with you doesn't make you a victim. It's incredible how closely the two are often correlated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 04:43 PM
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I'm pretty much only into short girls (5'4 and under). I'll go above if the girl is cool but I find girls taller than 5'4 tend to look too masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 04:16 PM
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That's fine, but I'm still right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 04:06 PM
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That genetic variation does exist. You attempted a 'ha! Science! move by reading the headline of an article saying that race doesn't technically exist, which I've never disagreed with anyway, without really understanding the point of it. Science is wasted on people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 04:02 PM
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No it isn't all I've done, is it? I insulted you, sure, you deserve it because you're a moron and a shitty moron who doesn't know that she is one, but I always make sure I've got a point and there is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 03:55 PM
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Do you eat meat? Animal products? Wear leather or suede? I'll be amazed if we don't find something that makes you a shittier person than I am, since that's the game you've decided to start playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 03:52 PM
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Actually, they aren't at all. You can't even point out what actually is racist, you're embarrassing yourself because your argument rests on accusing me of being a shit person. When, shock horror, it turns out that I don't give a fuck that you think I'm a shit person because I know I'm not, you piss your pants because you have nothing left to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 03:50 PM
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Tell me everything about your consumption habits, the food you eat, all the clothes you wear etc. I just bet you've got a pair of converses or something that you just wanted so bad. We'll inevitably find that I come out above you when it comes to ethical consumption. That means I can discredit everything you say by attacking your character. That's how you like to argue so that's how we're going to do it. We're going to argue like twelve years olds because you have a twelve year old brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 03:48 PM
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This doesn't actually discredit what any of us are saying, and most of us are aware that fundamentally race doesn't exist, it's just a way to have a simpler discussion. Just because race doesn't really exist, doesn't mean that genetic variation doesn't. It is a fact that black people are faster than white people. IIRC only one white person has ever ran a 100m sprint in less than ten seconds. What do you say to that then? There's nothing to say, genetic variation exists and small differences can …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 03:46 PM
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Hey, just out of interest, where do you buy your clothes from? No seriously, do they have a 'made in China/Indonesia/Bangladesh' tag on them? If we want to get into character assassination I'm sure we can dig up some truly awful things about you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 03:33 PM
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Yeah it's kind of hilarious. They only serve to discredit themselves when they try and paint me as an immoral person for this shit. Gawd, I'd be a liberal wet dream if I were a SJW type, I'm already pretty socialist and a fucking vegan for crying out loud. I know I'm not a racist person and I don't see myself as being superior. All these SJWs trying to protect the poor asians that I've apparently verbally assaulted are the same ones who buy sweatshop clothing from asian countries and contribute …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 03:31 PM
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Yeah I know, doesn't that just back my point up further?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 03:25 PM
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Not really. A woman could be out there as a doctor saving lives with no one wanting to have sex with her. A man could be a priest helping out many people in the community and his SMV would be irrelevant because of the profession. ". It doesn't mean that women can't bring value to society in other ways and be appreciated for that in the proper way,"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 03:24 PM
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Yeah but I think he still brings up a good point. There are what, over 100,000 subscribers to TRP? It's a pretty dogmatic group but there are still differing opinions and differing people within it. Your point is simply a distraction from the actual point, which is that bloopers are hypocritical when it comes to generalising.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 03:47 AM
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You're an unaccomplished and untalented beta piece of garbage You should just kill yourself, man. Everyone around you will always know how much of an unremarkable person you are. I am objectively better than you. And I thought I was an arsehole lol. You ever read your own shit? I doubt you actually are funny or that interesting, you just sound like a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 03:31 AM
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You are strawmanning every post in this thread, it's unbelievable, you're ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 03:27 AM
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I actually think there's a lot more to sex than just being dominant like TRP seems to believe, but I still agree with you to a point. Sex definitely has an element of power involved (mostly just posturing, not forcing it on them like rape) but I think it's about a lot more than just power.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 03:25 AM
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Yeah, it's worrying. I don't know what I'll do if the police come and arrest me for alluding to the possibility (not a fact) that asian people generally have smaller penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 02:57 AM
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I don't know, I don't think that makes much sense. A mans value is entirely tied to how useful he is to women Yeah their value according to a woman. For me, a woman's value is entirely tied to how useful she is to me, all relationships are fundamentally transactional. I think value to society is an important thing to discuss and yeah, women's value to society is pretty much founded on their vaginas. It doesn't mean that women can't bring value to society in other ways and be appreciated for that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 02:41 AM
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Just observing the discussion. The OP is just assuming that it's okay to consider a man's worth as what he can do for society, because he/she naively assumes that a woman is or should be held to the same standard. Women get to be useful, men have to be useful and the OP isn't really understanding that point. It's easy for feminists to assume that a woman's worth to society isn't fundamentally tied to their vaginas because they never really know what it's like to have zero worth when they don't c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 02:30 AM
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Because feminists think that they ought to be held to the same standard and so just assume that they are, ignoring the reality which is that they just aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 02:23 AM
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I don't disagree but I simply don't think it tells the full story. You know, I find this notion that if it weren't for stereotypes and racism that all races would be equally desirable kind of absurd. Research has shown that there are objective markers for attractiveness in a potential partner. Is it not even a little bit possible that certain races simply possess these attractive traits and/or less attractive traits in greater number? I think the idea that beauty is just a social construct prett…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 02:20 AM
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I think it's bogus to think that rich men actually hate poorer men at all, I just don't think they care about them. I've spent enough time around rich shithead kids with no filters to know that they simply couldn't care less about poor people. There's no way that 'rich men' (like there's some kind of upper class council) could just control feminism, it's a behemoth of a movement being headed by obstinate little shits who want nothing to do with them. Feminism to describe a kind of social change.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 02:03 AM
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But the difference is that guys want to fuck asian girls a lot more than girls want to fuck asian guys. If it were racism then it wouldn't be so one-sided. Of course racism exists but I don't believe in this 'all races are just as attractive as each other' idea. I don't think it has any grounding in reality at all, and I don't think there's any evidence that it does. Even if it were that what we find attractive is just a social construct (which I'm not convinced by at all either), that doesn't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 01:55 AM
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I'm not saying it's because I said so. I'm saying it because it's so obvious that asian guys have a harder time in dating and I don't think the answer is because people just hate asian guys. I don't think that people thinking that asian guys have a harder time is some grand conspiracy by the white man to keep asian guys down. You wanna talk about not having any basis in reality, well there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 01:45 AM
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Then maybe we're all secretly racist and that's why asian guys have a rough time dating, but I really doubt that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 01:18 AM
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Huh, fair enough, I thought it was canon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 01:16 AM
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I'm not saying no one is attracted to Asians. I'm just saying that everything I said is a thing, and lots of white people don't want to say it because they think that makes them racist. It means that in general asian men will be less attractive than white and black men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 12:37 AM
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Yeah dude, I'm not saying they don't exist, I'm just saying on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 12:24 AM
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Haaa. Look at us havin a good ole retarded time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 12:24 AM
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inner sperg Haha shit, is that new slang??
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 12:12 AM
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Double standard was the wrong word, although it is there. Hypocrisy might be it. IDK, it's something shitty though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 10:34 PM
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Just keeping a little database on everyone here's height.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 09:58 PM
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How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 09:17 PM
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You're trying to use 'facts about penis size' to argue your opinion It was you that got all fixated on dicks, not me. It's of course more than that, but I can't write one post without you talking about penises. I'm not saying that asian men can never be attractive, simply that they generally are less attractive because in general they possess less generally attractive physical traits. Go outside and stop watching so much porn. But how else will I measure every different race's average dick size?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 09:14 PM
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Nope. I don't care about racial purity at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 09:01 PM
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You can find Asian women unattractive I don't. of a few subjective things "they have smaller penises than me". Asian people have smaller penises on average than white people, it's a fact, not subjective. Are you an asian guy, is that it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 08:59 PM
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It's asian men that are relatively unattractive, not asian women. I think asian chicks are cute sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 08:52 PM
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Research finds that women prefer masculine features in a mate. Research finds that asian people have more feminine and less masculine features. People's experiences show that asian men struggle when it comes to dating. Not difficult to put two and two together.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 08:50 PM
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You chose to write something hateful I did nothing of the sort. You're the only one here writing hateful things, and I don't care, it's hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 08:48 PM
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No. I am a heterosexual white man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 08:47 PM
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You've never met any of them, you aren't the deciding factor as to what they are or aren't. Stop being such a dick to people you've never even met. Take your own advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 08:37 PM
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But it's literally a fact that asian people have smaller penises and more neotenous faces. It's also true that they often give off a particular odour and have unattractive accents. I don't hate Asian people at all, I'm just pointing out that they possess a lot of traits that are unattractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 08:35 PM
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who are vastly inferior to the whites I think you're projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 08:21 PM
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It's racist to point out that asian people objectively have smaller penises than white people?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 08:14 PM
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Mate I am an aspie dude too. You just gotta learn how to seem mysterious instead of retarded, and it's not difficult when you look like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 07:32 PM
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Lol then in what world are you not getting laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 06:33 PM
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No ones saying you're responsible. Yes they are, and just saying that they don't doesn't make it so. I don't actually care, just pointing out the double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 06:11 PM
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Damn that guy actually looks a bit like me. Maybe when I grow out of my baby face.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 06:05 PM
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Your ugly white guy will get more matches. It's not that the people are racist, it's that the people make assumptions based on race that are unconscious. My family pushed for excellence. Yo fuck it I'll say it. White people find asian cultures really off-putting for the most part. Asian people also have generally more feminine features, and smaller penis sizes on average. They also have a particular scent that isn't really pleasant to us. Sometimes the accent is grating too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 06:02 PM
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Fun fact? You didn't do any of the things those other White People did. Cool, I assume that means that I can't be held responsible for the terrible things that other white people did then. Fuck am I kidding of course, white people will be lumped in together when something bad happens, but never when something good happens. Black Lives Matter and other groups complain that when a white person does something bad that no one treats it like it's a white person thing. Is that true lmao? Of course it …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 05:58 PM
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But it's not really about domination, it's just a game. The intent isn't to crush the other person, it's just playing with them, and I don't mean that pejoratively. The power is just posturing, and the game is that the guy beats the girl (according to RP theory).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 02:15 AM
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If there's a power play going on, that means two people are vying to control the other's actions. Does it really?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 01:36 AM
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In what way does a girl have control over your actions? What? I never said that she did.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 12:08 AM
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You can reasonably expect very little in your life Very little isn't the same as nothing. Get outta here with your stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 12:07 AM
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How can you be disappointed if you don't have any ambition? Come on fucktard, think about it instead of digging yourself into a deeper hole. Your problem is that you see people who are lazy and pretend not to have any desires and assume that they don't have ambition. A person who genuinely has no ambition can't be disappointed by his or her lack of success. This is so obvious, I said your post looked pretty because you were just bouncing off the previous post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 11:44 PM
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Yeah nice try. Re-read what you said. Think about what disappointment actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 11:30 PM
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A game is just a game, it doesn't matter what the game is. Understanding how a game works is essential for people who just don't do it naturally. You can work on social skills as much as you want but you're a headless chicken if you don't know what you're ultimately trying to do. When you realise that there is some real power play going on, you take the most efficient step by considering the power dynamics. If you don't get it, and it doesn't naturally come easily to you, you'll spend a long lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 11:04 PM
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How can you be disappointed if you never wanted anything in the first place? Of course you're wrong, what you said looks pretty but is obviously rubbish.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 10:14 PM
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If you look at RSD's stuff, they hammer on increasing your social skills and social acuity. That is a considerably better approach than focusing on short-term power dynamics. I disagree entirely. Understanding the nature of a game is almost essential if you want to really succeed, unless you're very very talented or work really really hard, and even then you won't have the benefit of knowing the game really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 10:11 PM
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hypergamous teenagers who are incapable of love Are hypergamous teenagers who are incapable of love not people? I don't really agree with that RP thing about that entirely anyway, but just because you say something that puts certain people in a bad light, doesn't mean you don't also recognise that they're people. I have no idea where bloopers get this crazy idea from.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 10:08 PM
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I'm straight up addicted to jacking off and porn. I've got such a bad deathgrip, no way I can finish from sex. I'll probably sort it out eventually if I meet a nice girl but for now I don't really care. It doesn't really do anything to my motivation, it just calms me down. One time I didn't jack off for like a couple of months for a challenge and the motivation was just placebo at first, after that it just kind of sucked. Still can't believe I did that though, it was unreal, I wanted to fuck eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 09:59 PM
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These are definitely pictures of people on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 08:43 PM
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Not true. I watch porn and I hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 05:21 PM
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Yes and that level of social and economic progress pushed men ahead of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 05:07 PM
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I never said it wasn't silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 01:16 AM
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You only pointed out one false dichotomy, and you were wrong about that. Anything else? No I wasn't, how on earth was I wrong? You presented an entirely false dichotomy, of course you did. No, I don't believe that misogyny is a meaningless word, and yes I do believe that it is badly abused. But you're the one who said you were bored. It's a figure of speech. but you certainly have no authority or intellectual capacity to declare something as an "awful argument" or a "terrible analogy" without so…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 12:07 AM
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Yeah it's really rare to have a good friendship with a girl, sorry to hear that. Women just do 'trust' in a different way. For guys, you build trust by ripping into each other, by being outrageous, just to see if they trust you enough to know that you aren't being remotely serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 11:33 PM
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I guess I have a nicer view of friendship. Most people aren't really your friends, your buddies or whatever, they're just acquaintances, or very good acquaintances... doesn't matter, they're not really your friends. Some people are very bad at friendship, so it doesn't matter how much it seems like a friendship, it isn't. Friendship isn't just used to describe a platonic relationship between two people, it's about building trust. If your friend doesn't trust that you aren't a dickhead when you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 11:28 PM
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I didn't know I was in a well, nor am I trying to come out of it. I think my arguments have been cogent and well-informed. If they weren't, someone would have been able to easily show it to me, rather than continue to spew out opinionated invective. You immediately assumed things that weren't, it's the sign of a retard. Started false dichotomying everywhere. Awful, don't know why I'm replying. Then you projected your own boredom onto me. I never get bored. Why succumb to the language of politica…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 11:22 PM
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I can't possibly agree with this. The idea that one sex can get so drastically far ahead of another is preposterous. It was only when men became too privileged that feminism began, along with this right conditions. Women are way privileged now and nature will do its thing and sort that right out. If you honestly think that women are going to be happy being artificially inseminated think again. Single women past their thirties have terrible rates of depression, men not so much. Feminism sucks for…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 11:16 PM
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You're never going to get laid like that. Let gay men, bisexual women, and online anonymity fight your battles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 10:58 PM
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You weren't responding to the argument, though. You were asking me a personal question which did not pertain to the topic at hand. I can't help it if you're bored. Don't try to come out of this well, you made a retard move, own up and accept it so we can move on. Words are important. The thing is, misogyny refers to hatred, and hatred is an emotion. Why is it so important to take a discussion to an emotional level or try to find some hidden motive? It's a recurring pattern I've seen in nearly ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 10:55 PM
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You know what people are talking about when they talk about men's rights and women's rights don't you? Unless you're one of those people who feels the need to tell comedians while they're performing that their jokes are funny and to remind them that they're doing comedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 10:52 PM
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Honestly dude, don't get hung up on it. However much you thought you two were great friends, anyone who would stop being friends with you for something like that isn't worth your time. I'm sure you've heard it before but it's true. There are people out there who are perfectly content to let you have whatever views you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 07:35 PM
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Women receive lesser jail sentences for the same crimes. That enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 07:33 PM
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Not a picture but I'd let Nigella Lawson milk me for whatever recipe she wanted and she's over fifty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 07:26 PM
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I meet the last two, but my penis has been unenthusiastic lately so it's a real struggle to make it to six inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 07:23 PM
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lmao if anything I'm on your side. I'm so bored of retards assuming I'm on the other 'side' and labelling me as such to avoid responding to an argument. Both RPers and BPers do it, both leftists and conservatives do it. Retards, all of you. Either defend the use of "misogyny" or admit that it's a disingenuous term only used by deceitful people. Ugh, boring false dichotomy. Of course misogyny exists. Is the word abused to no end for questionable purposes? Of course. Does it exist? Of course it do…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 07:19 PM
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Tanning, diet pills etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:46 PM
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I actually don't, I'm actually normally the one talking about how many guys are using, I'm just saying that women are far worse when it comes to abusing their bodies to feel better about themselves. I assume it's misandry (I don't actually give a shit) because you make it sound like this is a male problem, when it's overwhelmingly a female one. Maybe you're one of those absurd male feminists though, I dnk.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:34 PM
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Eww, shit reply. Women do crazy shit en-masse to their bodies to feel better about themselves. Steroid users are a tiny proportion of the male population, get out of here with your misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:25 PM
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Eating on point seems to mean different things to a lot of people. I don't think there are any studies behind it at all but the raw/vegan community is filled with people who attest to the beneficial changes to their periods. This is one of those very few things where there isn't a huge amount of evidence behind it (not necessarily for the benefits of the diet itself but other changes...) but the vast majority of people who have ever done it properly will swear by it. Lose the meat, the animal pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 03:37 PM
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Of course I do sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 03:05 AM
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I didn't do high school. I went to a nice private school in England so piss off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 02:43 AM
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So fucking what? You know what you're getting into when you have kids, so fucking what? I don't understand what you want? A medal? It's your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 12:06 AM
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But there's still a choice. Under no circumstances in the west are you obligated to have children so you shouldn't complain as if you were forced to do it. Feminist double standards incoming... Seriously though, if all women dropped dead today, men would find a way to keep the population going. I hope that doesn't happen but it's probably true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 11:58 PM
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When you say "you guys" your generalizing. Most over on trp, and especially mgtow don't agree with punching a woman in the face and raping her. And I never said that, simply that TRP is really dodgy when it comes to rape and I wouldn't be surprised that many RPers there associate with rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 11:46 PM
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No you're an idiot for thinking that your posts have any value when you don't provide any evidence or argument for your opinions. You're a troll for knowing it and being a shit about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 10:53 PM
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It's really not a random insult. You guys are obsessed with aesthetics over athleticism and are very sketchy when you talk about rape. The thread in question is very good evidence of that. Not a bluepiller btw, don't be an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 10:37 PM
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The more you tell me you think I think I'm "really, really smart" the more it convinces me that I am. It shouldn't. If that's what convinces you, you're not. Oh no, I'm distracting people from the indepth and valuable discussion here at PPD. I'm forcing them to read mah postz. SOund teh alarmz! Well either you're an idiot or a troll, so better to just admit to one of them so I don't leave this conversation knowing that you're both.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 10:37 PM
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I know you won't believe this, but I want men to have better lives as much as I do women Get over yourself, I think you're stupid, not nasty. so that we at least have some chance of a fairer world. People are too stupid for that. 50/50 will not make things fairer or better. Men or women is largely irrelevant, we need spectacularly smart and good people. I know you go 'oh yeah I agree', but you're insistence on 50/50 means you don't have your priorities straight. World is complicated, it isn't en…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 10:25 PM
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No, most of you are probably too afraid that your balls would get even smaller than they are at the moment. And I never said that TRP encourages rape, just that I wouldn't be surprised if many RPers associated with rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 10:16 PM
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Fuck that shit. I'm not surprised that a roid rager would brutally rape a woman and I'm not surprised that the OP in that thread is friends with a roiding rapist. TRP is a joke. You're all a bunch of stupid, pussy children in balloon bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 09:45 PM
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And then you add in the side effects of birth control. And giving birth, which is generally considered to be one of the most excruciating pains it is possible to experience. Not to mention the rest of pregnancy-- morning sickness like being hungover with the flu for months at a time, everything constantly aching, your baby kicking your bladder and making you pee... Don't get pregnant then. Also stop eating like shit, it'll make your period lighter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 09:41 PM
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What is tren? Steroids or something? I don't know, I wouldn't fill my body up with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 09:35 PM
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They indeed do. Then why don't we live in a utopia for men? Why is the education system so heavily in women's favour? Why isn't there more funding for male mental and physical health problems, crisis shelters etc? Oh wait, benevolent sexism. That rubbish. It SEEMS that way. Any small concession women get has some men throwing up their arms in despair and hatred. Because they believe it should be a man's world with women on the sidelines. Evidence for this? Reasoning... anything? Feminism is so i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 09:22 PM
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However, interpreting these tidbits of anger and disgust with female actions as "misogynistic" or "dangerous" is over-reactive and silly. I never said 'dangerous', so if you could not make up words to put in my mouth that'd be fantastic. But just because 'misogyny' has become so abused as a word doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. I don't even care, so what. some people just can't stand women, not the end of the world. To deny that a huge number of RPers don't hate or at least dislike women is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:07 PM
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Nope feminism hasn't gone far enough. Until they have equal representation in government etc, they'll keep going. Implying that men have more representation in government. We don't, the politicians are shills who don't care about men's issues at all. Feminism has far far more sway in politics than men's issues do. If it were 50/50 men to women, women would have even more influence than they already do as it stands. What feminists really want from the 50/50 thing is a majority who will follow thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:02 PM
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I don't disagree that a lot of RPers are bitter and angry, and do try to put down women to make them feel better, but I wouldn't agree that this is really the point of the sub itself. I think the moderators or whatever just allow it because they seem it as an unfortunate necessity in the 'process' or whatever. I think some of the perceived misogyny from less out-right and don't-even-give-a-shit misogynists stems from just being overly zealous in the pursuit of the red pill 'truth'. I don't think…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:04 AM
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I guess I can actually do, but I get easily distracted by anything... squirrels, shoes, ideas, boobs. I occasionally have flushes of motivation but in general I just don't do it and rely on liking what I do and being naturally talented enough and efficient at most things that I don't need to try that hard. I actually think the only reason I do work well as a teacher is because I've had to spend a lot of time figuring out the most efficient way to get better. It is an interesting dynamic and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 11:27 PM
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Ha, no one here would ever take me seriously again. I should clarify that I'm not an actual coach getting paid and the like, I just typically fall into that thinking and helping role in general. I can 'do' but I'm simply not competitive enough. I have very little interest in hitting people, I just really enjoy a practice that involves hitting people a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 10:58 PM
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milf porn was probably not the best example to make my point, but I have a theory about that and it gets a bit freud-y so I'll shut up haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 10:21 PM
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Lmao, no. Boxing/muay thai.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 10:10 PM
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You might not believe it, but there are actually mature women in their middle ages out there, and lots of men desperately want them. Lots of men have already been with the young, immature girl who never grew up and don't want a repeat experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 10:09 PM
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Juggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 10:08 PM
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The women, with their tendency towards own group preference, would push the feminist agenda too far and it would collapse. It's already becoming abundantly clear that feminism 'overshot' the mark, but feminism can't stop pushing forwards. They're fighting a war that can't be won because they've created an imaginary enemy, so they'll keep pushing until people get sick of it. War on patriarchy, meet war on terror, war on drugs etc. I can't really speak on the practicality of such a system but to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 10:07 PM
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Same here, what sport do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 09:59 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz lol? Feminism has its claws in the 'left' (I hate the right/left thing) but it isn't the same thing. It's a problem because you have guys like Milo Yiannopoulos basically fueling the fire for people to lump in the left as one monolith and hate them for it. He may not be serious about it, but plenty of dumbfuck manosphere types are and it perpetuates the same bullshit identity politics that destroy intelligent debate. Eventually the pendulum is going to swing b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 08:43 PM
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I don't think he's necessarily a myth, just so rare that he's basically a unicorn, and unicorns are real and not imaginary at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:10 PM
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I've always been a 'coach' type for the most part, good observer but too in my head to really succeed, and I'm too much of a geek to put down the books and do the work haha. A good athlete recognises a good coach and vice versa. People who criticise 'coach' types for their lack of 'proven authority' or whatever are neither good athletes nor good coaches. They are shit at everything. I despise them for their stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:08 PM
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Nah he almost certainly is if this isn't just someone having a troll, not because of his 'game' or whatever, just because of his reaction to being asked about it. No one will ever seriously admit it unless they stand to gain something from risking being 'out'. I'm pretty sure this is just a troll though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 04:02 PM
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Agreed, feminists disingenuously abuse marxist and real social justice frameworks to further their bullshit agenda. Women have nothing close to black people, or poor people. Their entire framework is built around the idea that they're oppressed in the same sort of way that minorities and the poor are, so they'll never accept (or more importantly consider) the idea that women are complimentary to men. I'm tired of them co-opting the left to peddle their crap. They give 'leftists' (try not to fall…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 03:57 PM
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And those who can't teach... teach gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 03:40 PM
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Yeah it's true, the best sports coaches are actually rarely the ones who used to be the best or whatever. They're always good, but they probably spend too much time thinking, and their natural inability has forced them to have better knowledge and understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 03:39 PM
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Thread is suggesting that men marry younger because they prefer the looks of younger women, I suggest that lots of men like older women because people have been suggesting that older women are basically untouchable. You think men are marrying younger women because they prefer their personalities lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 03:18 PM
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It's not that hard to act a little is what I mean. Also I'm a guy so to my knowledge a PUA has never hit on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 03:15 PM
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Yeah shit, you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 01:01 AM
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Feminists will say they don't because they've seen guys blatantly using it on them, but they have no idea (and neither do we) how often they genuinely are 'tricked'. I mean... you'd surely have to be stupid to be obvious about 'game' around feminists. What you would do is tailor whatever you're doing so as to not offend their sensibilities. It's not that hard to do, feminists are desperate for a masculine guy who doesn't take anyone's shit who also agrees with their ridiculous ideology. Unfortun…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 11:40 PM
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The only way to get your 'revenge' is to be happier than them, and you can't do that by trying to get revenge or even caring about it. That's the only truth to be said there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 10:24 PM
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Yeah me too man, me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 10:03 PM
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Dude, MILF porn is popular for a reason. I assure you more guys are desperate to fuck their hot forty something teacher than you think. A lot of those guys would take an older woman over a younger woman, I think you'd be seriously seriously surprised. Now I don't doubt for a second that young women by and large prefer older men far more than young guys prefer older women, I actually don't disagree with you at all, just that sometimes older women just do it for ya :/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:47 PM
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lol teenage boys would fuck women in their fourties and fifties if they could. They might not tell their friends about it but they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:20 PM
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No, women do not start looking like haggard old ogres at 25, with their looks and sex appeal being dead and gone by age 30. There are some, like Lindsay Lohan, who look haggard at 30, because she's a coke head prostitute who tans Which a lot of girls do in one way or another nowadays. Most girls I know still party, eat like shit, and generally don't take care of themselves. I know a woman who 'hit the wall' pretty much at twenty seven. She was smoking, not that typically good-looking but she had…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:18 PM
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Feminists at some point will become desperate to insist that men stop putting themselves in danger for women's protection. As it stands it can kind of brush those answers off but the less and less ammo they have the more desperate they'll become, and this will be a pretty big one. The truth is that men can barely help wanting to protect women, it's almost instinctive, and I don't think most men actually hate that, they just hate not being recognised for it. Feminists will beg men to stop playing…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 05:50 PM
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Does that stop it from being a big thing though? When you're hungry eating seems like the most important thing in the world but then when you're finished with your meal you just feel normal. Now they're not the same thing but just because nothing feels 'different' after having sex, doesn't mean that it isn't still a big thing. No one is expecting to feel incredible for the rest of their lives after having sex, they just expect to get rid of the embarrassment and shame of being a virgin (especial…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:22 PM
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You might be right, I don't see the need for emotive language when logic and reason are just fine, but I guess I was just projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 08:57 PM
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Whose fault it is doesn't matter, it's irrelevant. Blame is just a way to muddy the crux of the matter. If you give someone the facts and the logic they'll see the 'truth', you don't need to make people feel a certain way in order to get them to change imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 08:27 PM
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Honestly I'm unconvinced. Where I'm from you get so many wealthy arab dudes trying to get girls to go out with them in exchange for money, holidays, nice things etc. and it never works. This happens to my sister from time to time and she just finds it plain gross. It literally wouldn't matter how much money they had. Now if we think about how hot guys can get laid even when they act like dickheads, it would theoretically make sense that rich guys can get away with being gross because their SMV w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 06:28 PM
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Money doesn't give you any SMV... maybe the power and confidence that may or may not come with the money might, but money alone is nothing. You can literally buy sex with money though, so it doesn't matter what your SMV is, there will always be girls out there who will fuck you for your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 06:02 PM
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Yeah okay that's why at my old workplace there were probably two good looking women and all the rest of them were average or below for the most part. See that's just my experience, it's not really less valid than yours because neither are really useful observations. The point is that there's no evidence at all to suggest that the more qualified are being overtaken by the better looking, less qualified people. None. Not that attractive people don't have an advantage in general, but no evidence th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 05:36 PM
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I literally said that I do in the post just before. Blunt truth. You didn't get whatever job it was for the same reason you just said what you did now. You're not as smart as you think you are, don't do logic, and don't pay attention. Maybe that 'bimbo' (real derogatory there by the way) was just smarter than you or maybe the interviewer strongly disliked your character? Maybe he or she saw someone with a serious victim complex? Employers look for more than grades and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 04:19 PM
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Maybe you're just not as good as you think you are. Equally no evidence to your opinion Burden of proof is on you for making the claim, this is elementary shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:57 PM
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No it isn't and there's no evidence for it. GTFO with your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:54 PM
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It's true that attractiveness matters slightly when it comes to career success but not that much. It's hilarious that you think some dumb blonde with a 2.5 would beat out an ugly girl with a higher gpa. Tall guys do better in the work world too, am I going to sit down and have a tantrum about it? No, it doesn't really matter that much. I only assumed you were talking about sexual relationships because the idea that employers only care about your tits is so absurd in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:48 PM
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Why the fuck should a guy care what your gpa is or how good your career is? You're making men seem quite shallow but then wishing they would judge you by your exam results and your CV. Yo, some of the most boring morons I know get great grades and have good careers, it's meaningless to me. Are you seriously trying to make yourself seem any less shallow by pointing out that women care about a guy's socio-economic status. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:28 PM
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Yup, been told I couldn't do shit all my life, did it anyway. It doesn't even occur to me not to do any of that stuff. The funny thing is that women who actually take that approach tend to do pretty well. Contrary to feminist belief, women who actually go out there with a no bullshit, active approach aren't put down but are generally praised. Guys hate hearing people whinge about being victims because we see other guys doing it all the time and know it's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:18 PM
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Nah like I said, I'm not moralising, I don't really believe in 'good' and 'evil'. That sounds pretentious but it's true. I just think it's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 01:59 AM
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Yeah nailed it. It's so boring to hear RPers say shit like that. Understanding the cause of the problem is always going to be useful and important for the best practical application.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 11:17 PM
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No I'm not saying any of that. I'm wondering why you never even considered if they were into you, or what they were thinking or anything. I'm not moralising here, I'm just curious how you two never just took five minutes to think about another, fairly large group's experience just for its own sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 11:00 PM
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Don't you get lonely waiting for everything to come to you? It's literally just... I don't know, curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:42 PM
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much much far closer. As I've said, if you weren't a hippie, you would be RP. Their militant attitude do not appeal to you because you fancy yourself an open-minded free spirit (you're not really either, tbh. You're rigid in your own way). Not really but I doubt you would believe anything else. I make a point to 'check myself' because counter-RP arguments are lacking in this sub and BP posts don't make up for them. It becomes red and circlejerky and from time to time I get caught up in the circl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:40 PM
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Nothing to do with morality, I think it's perfectly natural to view things from other people's perspectives from time to time. Maybe not for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:32 PM
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Sure, I'm not arguing against that, I'm literally just wondering why you don't take the time to consider how they think and feel. Fat, ugly girls do nothing for me but I still take the time to think about how they think and feel, they aren't invisible to me. Have some agency, for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:20 PM
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You lean really heavy RP, you just don't see it. 'I find myself leaning far closer to RP' Sometimes I wonder if you even read my posts lmao. I know I lean far closer to RP than to BP but I make a point of not blindly taking sides. I get that this is your way of being like 'my posts are great and he just doesn't get it because secretly he's RP'. Nope, sorry, your posts just don't do anything for me. I don't especially care what you think because you've already admitted to following ideology, so a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:15 PM
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Do they? I attract nice, shy girls. I fit the niche so hard it's hardly fair (but I need a gangsta bitch so whatever). They're shy so they don't start twirling their hair around me, they don't do anything to show me they're interested at all and all the while I do sometimes get more forward girls hitting on me. I push a bit with the shy girls and it becomes more obvious that they like me but it's really not hard to tell if I think about it just for a moment. It just never occurs to me to not con…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 10:02 PM
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Eh, all this shows is a lack of awareness of the people around you. You're making it sound like you won something but you just sound very self-centered, but of course you don't care or whatever. Basically, when you're asking 'why would I have seen them', it's because it's just a generally positive thing to try and view the world from other people's perspectives sometimes. That has value in and of itself, so whether their experiences breached your little bubble doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:57 PM
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Conversely, if a man can categorize the actions of a woman by figuring out the motives and methods of her actions, how is it dehumanising in any way? The problem is a lack of awareness. The idea of TRP in the first place seems to have been about awareness of reality. The issue is that it becomes an ideology for many less intelligent people. The 'nice guy' thing isn't a way to talk about frustrated men who think that women just want someone who will be extra nice to them and that they'll eventual…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:49 PM
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Some of them make it sound like its impossible for an average guy to find a mate, when its simply not true. Especially with all of the technology we have now. Truth. I feel like a lot of the time it's easier to push to the extremes in order to prove a point, you know, to make it clear. So when TRP talks about the top 20% it's more just to prove a point about hypergamy and women seeking the best mate possible. The problem is that a lot of people start taking it literally and thinking that only th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:31 PM
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Could be the same reason that so many men find the idea of an independent, high-earning, successful women threatening. That was their advantage and they don't have it anymore. Women pretty much just get the hand that they're dealt and so have to rely on 'manipulation' to get as much from their hand that they can. Now men are having to resort to this because they don't have the advantage of being a provider or whatever. People just don't understand that you're never going to stop men trying to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:31 PM
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Yeah but you have that trust problem, maybe people are actually just being nice. It feels good to be nice to people and it makes them feel better too. It's just a win-win interaction if you let it be like that, just a human interaction to boost everyone up. The world isn't out to get you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:16 PM
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Could just be that they're trying to be nice or give you some encouragement, despite not really being able to figure out what would really hit the spot. You've got a serious trust problem if you can't just accept any old compliment. The compliment itself may not mean much, but the fact that someone just tried to make you feel better should really be enough. If I go to a party I end up complimenting people for a lot of things, mostly their clothing style or whatever. Some girls really appreciate …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:21 PM
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I came in here with the same preconceptions of RPers that most people have, although I was kind of sympathetic to some ideas. I still wouldn't identify as RP but their ideas are at least based on some logic and evidence, even if sometimes it's a little shaky. I still find TRP subreddit unbearable and would never post there, but most of the RPers here are actually okay, pretty intelligent people on the whole. On the other hand, I've come to seriously dislike most BPers for their apparent inabilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:13 PM
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I think it's a problem of women displaying own group preference while men don't. Women project this onto men instead of realising that men don't play teams, that what is bad for other men is fundamentally good for a man because his value is relative to everyone else's. Women just don't understand that the 'positive' privileges that are kind of exclusive to men (not just the absence of something bad) can only exist because other men absolutely don't get those privileges. A small group of men can …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:58 PM
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(sorry I know I'm replying to your posts a lot, I'm not stalking you) Guys get this when they go from being unattractive to attractive. Bloopers act like the world is nice and fair and sometimes it is when people are genuinely compassionate... but most people live in a kind of daydream so they aren't. When you're unattractive you can feel like a ghost, no one looks at you or even acknowledges that you're there. When you're attractive girls will fight over you, do pretty much anything you ask the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 05:04 PM
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Because they're not trying to give advice. The idea of an unattractive person trying to become attractive just seems abhorrent to so many people. If they could get away with it they'd just tell them not to do anything, and just 'be yourself and be nice and open' is basically saying "don't do anything to become more attractive but make society more pleasant for everyone by being content with where you stand". These women are never trying to actually help the guy get laid, they're telling them how…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:56 PM
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Everyone likes to pretend that sex is just some kind of side-hobby that people just do for fun and to have children with their 'one'. It's to ignore the absolutely enormous role that sex plays in our lives, it arguably governs everything that we do. The game is to pretend like it doesn't matter, because no one wants a desperate person, so everyone acts like they don't really care. They act like gender politics is all to do with one group just 'oppressing' the other for shits and giggles instead …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 12:12 AM
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They also want to know where people stand on them. And you are confusing niceness with flirting and clear signals. So? How does that make them a bad person? This is the crux of the argument. It's why I told my brother that the best chat up line is "You are pretty, join me for a drink at the bar?". You guys complicate things too much when an icebreaker can just be eye contact and Hi. Maybe, but only if they're already attracted to you. If you're fuck ugly that's never going to work so you have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 09:13 PM
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Is it wrong to assume you are owed something for being nice? Yes. Of course but this is almost never how it plays out. These guys aren't saying or thinking' I was so nice to her, why didn't she reward me with sex?' They're thinking 'I was so nice to her and I thought that was what women wanted so why doesn't she like me back?' It's perfectly reasonable to be frustrated. Plus, a lot of the time, guys just find it difficult to accept that they simply aren't attractive enough. They rationalise it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 08:37 PM
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Shut the fuck up or answer my question. Forget about guys with bad social skills not knowing what they're doing, is it wrong to be upset when you can't have a romantic relationship with someone that you like? The answer is obviously no, you just won't admit that because you absolutely insist that any guy who is sad about his lack of success with a woman or women is a prick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:13 PM
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You didn't answer my question. Is there anything wrong with being upset that you couldn't have a romantic relationship with someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 06:36 PM
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So? Is there anything wrong with wanting to move on to a romantic relationship with someone? This idea that the 'nice guy' assumes that you owe him that is entirely made up to suit your agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 06:23 PM
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You're not understanding the fact that I understand that there are varying situations and that I'm trying to be as general as possible. You're saying that I think any response from the guy is okay, when really it kind of depends. All I am saying is that most responses that seem bitter, upset, or angry are generally understandable, when considering his point of view. Now you seem to think that I'm dismissing the girl's point of view out of hand simply because. No, I'm dismissing it because it's c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:38 PM
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Because you keep going back to comparisons. Sorry this isn't a response. You can't put words into my mouth for any reason. It wasn't a real question. Stop putting words into my mouth. It's a natural response. The same natural response the guy had that you seemed very lenient about. You didn't call his response a cop out? Figures. The person being rejected is normally pretty overwhelmed by emotion. He can't help but feel like he was being led on (and let's be honest that's normally what's happeni…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:12 PM
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All I've gotten from you is that if he bitches her out or acts in a rude manner it's excusable because he placed himself in the friendzone. Serious question, do you find people get frustrated when arguing online with you a lot? I ask because you say you've got this from my posts even though I explicitly said earlier that it isn't ok. I hate it when people put words into my mouth, hate hate hate. But if she thinks to herself after the fallout "did he only want me for sex?" she's a harpy who dehum…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:52 PM
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Yeah, women sell themselves short by pretending that they're stupid instead of them just not caring, but then I guess that dispels the illusion that they are nice, and moral, and benevolent etc. Normally the guy is less attractive than the girl and yet this girl still thinks that he just wants to be friends despite him wanting to spend so much time with her and being so nice to her. Even if he was acting like he wasn't blatantly infatuated with her, it would hardly even make sense that he wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:42 PM
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Yeah... how is that a female thing? I've lost friends from girls wanting a relationship too, I absolutely have been in their position. Losing a friend sucks but it doesn't hurt as much as being rejected by the girl you're infatuated with, simply no comparison, especially when that friendship is hardly real in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:35 PM
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What female point of view? Is rejecting people something that only women do? Like I said, I've been on both sides. If you're saying that I don't understand the female POV because I don't know what it's like to have guys pretend to be friends with me for sex then you're just proving my original point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:29 PM
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Both people are wrong to talk shit about the other person but honestly, It's so rare to actually see a guy bitching about a girl he was friends with because she rejected him. Maybe a bit of bitterness but not much else. The person doing the rejecting is never hurt as much as the person being rejected. Here's why. In these 'friendships' there's almost never an actual friendship going on. In truth there's a guy who sees the 'friendship' as just a precursor to a relationship. Now that doesn't mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:22 PM
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Because people are flawed and it's an uncomfortable situation? However you want to rationalise it, you must surely see that you're dehumanising the guy right? 'Oh he was rude so that means he doesn't have complex emotions anymore!'. I'm a fairly good-looking guy and I've had girls suddenly drop off and start being a bit cold to me... and you know what? I fucking get it, because been there done that. I don't think 'oh she was just being nice to me so I'd make her my girlfriend, what a bitch!' I r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:03 PM
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This is such an excellent post. It's unbelievable that women, but mostly feminists and other white knights, don't seem to get this. I find it absolutely astonishing that so many people online parrot the 'he was just pretending to be my friend for sex' line.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 06:46 PM
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He was being nice because "he wanted to fuck me," Then I have to wonder if this girl really was such a great friend after all. I mean, she's so quick to dehumanise the guy and turn him into some kind of manipulative sex-pest, you'd think if they were actually friends that she'd consider and value his complexity and perfectly human emotions. Tbh, in almost every case it's just a guy orbiting a girl, and the girl is pissed because she's losing one of her possessions. She doesn't care how shit the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 06:39 PM
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All you have to do is do a little bit of research into fitness and eat obviously healthy foods (fruits and veg). That's it... it's like the easiest thing. People just don't do it for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:37 AM
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That makes me sad :/ why even bother with monogamy if your man is going to get sick of you and prefer a newer girl no matter what? Eh, girls do this all the time. A guy stops being sexually attractive to her, or never was, or there was someone better, or whatever and she leaves him for someone else. Just because you find other girls sexually attractive doesn't mean you would go around having sex with them. Let's assume hypergamy exists (if you don't believe it)... in monogamy a guy makes a commi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:38 PM
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You don't need a trainer or a chef to be in good shape, and skincare isn't difficult either. Maybe if you're an idiot, but working out isn't complicated and neither is nutrition, sorry. Maybe you just suck at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:26 PM
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They attract girls by showing off a fake persona Everyone does this, we're all playing a role all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:31 PM
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You dumb motherfuckers are being so hella dumb about this. Yeah no shit a twenty one year old frat bro with a crazy body and good looks is going to be at his most attractive at that age, that's his thing. Different people peak at different times and the variation is much greater for men than for women. If you're a guy that relies on being physically appealing and thrives on being in a certain culture (fraternity culture or university or whatever) then you're going to do better early on. If that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 05:18 PM
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Gay people fuck like rabbits dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 12:53 PM
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Bollocks. You started going on about how they just 'should get it' or something like that. I'm perfectly aware of what the OP was asking, I'm just pointing out your crap. For whatever reason you refuse to accept that what you said was dumb as shit and you've made this conversation way longer than it needed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:34 PM
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Yeah... this really isn't like 'shaming tactics', you genuinely are just complaining. What's the point in saying 'they just should do this'? Shall I just start a thread saying 'everyone should be nice and respect everyone and get along' and then have the sub close? Nah, that's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 01:09 PM
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Your posts are a childish response to a complex problem, you're literally just complaining but don't seem to realise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 10:44 PM
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It's so obvious that this an attempt to make people think that rape is more common than it actually is. You're right that it's a completely dirty tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 09:19 PM
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Do you think what you're saying is anything more than whining? This kind of attitude solves nothing, it's pointless. What the fuck does just saying 'they should' do? It's like getting pissed off at my car for not working because it just 'should'. It doesn't matter how much you teach someone something. You think rapists just don't know that rape is wrong? You think if you just explained why rape is bad they'd give a shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 08:49 PM
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or sexually assaulted This can mean pretty much anything. I've been sexually assaulted too, some girl pinched my butt. I'm amazed the statistic is that low tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 07:31 PM
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The problem isn't a 'male' thing. It's social exclusion on one hand and pure narcissism on the other. You can't just teach people that it's bad. They see you, a girl doing better than they are in life who would never give them the time of day, and they despise you for it. As far as they're concerned, you don't give a shit about them, so they don't give a shit about you. It's ridiculous that you think this is an easily solved problem. You seem to have this impression that this is just male nature…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 06:57 PM
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anyone is a potential violent crazy person. you would do the same if exposed to the same risks. We are...?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 06:49 PM
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If a man gets accused of rape his reputation is destroyed, his name is forever associated with the accusation, even if it's proven to be a false accusation. But apparently we live in a rape culture? Bullshiiiiit. Sure there are some people who don't take it seriously, those are arseholes, they're everywhere. The problem is that false accusations do happen. Let's say you have two friends and one of them accuses the other of rape. If you immediately believe that one of them was raped then you're s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 02:20 PM
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the same sexism that says men can't be abused comes from the same sexism that says women are too innocent to be abusers. you can't eliminate one without also eliminating the other. Feminism calls this 'benevolent sexism' when in reality it is just pure privilege. both are born of gender roles that have been around since whatever assholes decided men would forever be caretakers for women. No 'asshole' just decided it. Feminism seems to insist that men just want to put down women. Nope! In reality…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 12:49 PM
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Yeah it's pretty hilarious actually. This person insists that men should just go and seek mental treatment but how is that helpful when the people giving the treatment say and think shit like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 06:26 PM
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Yeah but the thing is that once they've had their fun with the bad boys they turn towards the safe, stable boys when they decide that they want to have a family and nicer stuff. No one wants to be the one that the girl settled for and all it does is create antagonism between the man and the woman when it becomes apparent that she settled for him and had no serious sexual desire for him. You have loads of guys who spent their younger years getting rejected over and over again who then end up bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 06:19 PM
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Yeah it has nothing to do with blame. Blame is kind of irrelevant when the problem is ignorance, not malice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 06:00 PM
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Just because they aren't actively identifying as feminists doesn't mean they aren't influenced by the huge effect that feminism has on society. I mean, feminism has convinced the west that domestic violence is a thing that men do to women, and rarely the other way around, when this is actually a complete myth. You know, society has really experienced a large amount of brainwashing at the hands of feminists...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:26 PM
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Or maybe it's a bit more complicated than that? Maybe it was gasp, women who also perpetuated (and still do) the gender roles that make men reluctant to talk about their issues. Maybe it's a lack of positive male identities caused by society vilifying masculinity? Maybe it's to do with the fact that men are often the providers of their family and when they don't feel like they can provide they off themselves? That certain fits in with the suggestion that the economic downturn is partly responsib…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:18 PM
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And you are arguing with someone who used to (until today since I officially finished work today) save the lives of people who try to commit suicide. I think I might have just found the root of the male suicide problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 03:19 PM
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First, I want proof There's a huge amount of proof to back up ideas of male disposability, and experience are important, whether you think they're 'squishy' or not. Of course those experiences need to be subjected to proper analysis, but just looking at 'hard' issues is only scratching the surface. It isn't just that men receive harsher sentences, that's a symptom of far larger problems to do with men being seen as inherently more 'evil' and disposable. Go check out some books like 'the war agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 01:55 PM
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Word. I thought my flatmate wasn't wearing any make-up around the house for ages until one day it turns out she has mad acne.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 01:38 PM
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Try not to take this as just me ripping on women, I'm more of a misanthrope. Generally they're more altruistic, more sympathetic people, largely agreeable if you maintain a certain distance. They aren't trying to compete with me which is nice. For whatever reason I find some of them impossibly charming, which I love/hate. They're more entitled than men, they expect so much in a man while not really giving much themselves. Don't blame them, girls my age have so many options that they can get rid …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 01:30 PM
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For sexual attraction? It is simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:49 PM
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Neither stance can be proven, it's based on feelz No it isn't really. Legally for example, it's way easier if you're a woman. That says something about the generally better treatment that women receive in society. It's been shown from studies that women do generally expect better treatment and see equal treatment as receiving worse treatment. I think that a lot of feminist complaints about 'oppression of women' are starting to get very thin, especially when compared to the problems that men face…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 06:52 PM
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I guess it's pretty subjective but it struck me as a person giving more weight to the 'issue' of women being held to a certain standard (barely true anyway), and dismissing ridiculous standards for men as 'alpha chad competition'. I'm 'purple pill' and I would never seriously say 'alpha chad competition' or something like that. If you're going to try and come from a more balanced viewpoint, use balanced language.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 02:59 PM
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Yeah man no doubt, just backing up your point. Attacking a woman's attractiveness is an absolute no in our society. Just because some people attack their attractiveness doesn't mean that there isn't a wave of people ready to back her up and shame (rightfully) the people doing the attacking. With guys, eh, who gives a shit. It's just another example of male disposability.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 02:27 PM
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She isn't a RPer though. There was no reason to use those words except to have a dig at RPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 02:12 PM
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It's more than just fatness dude. A male is open to any attack, it's fair game, whether he's stupid, or shy, or incompetent, or lazy, or whatever. Women are rarely given the same treatment. The game is to attack any man's weakness to highlight how unattractive and lacking value he is. Can you do the same for women? Not really. There are fat chicks on TV but it's normally seen as empowering, the point is definitely not to laugh at her fatness. In popular culture, making fun of a woman's attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 02:11 PM
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As to your fat acceptance movement for men: are you serious? You don't see how pop culture in the past 50 years has paired overweight/unattractive men with hotter-than-average women? Married with Children? Family Guy? The Simpsons? The Sopranos? The Flinstones? That 70s Show? The Fresh Prince of Bel Air? The reason those guys have more attractive, intelligent wives is because they act as a juxtaposition to highlight the man's stupidity, ugliness, and ineptitude. No one is going 'fuck yeah Homer'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 02:07 PM
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No. I'm under no illusions about my sexual ability. There's no way a porn star would be sexually attracted to me so I'd assume any porn star who wanted to be in a relationship with me was just after my great nunchuk skills or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 12:17 PM
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My argument is that weakness is a million times less attractive to a woman than it is to a man. Feel free to apply further nuance to my argument, I already did that a bit but it's obvious that you're just ignoring that so you can strawman me. Whatever I don't give a fuck. If you want to stretch your intellectual muscles the wrong way go ahead. I could say, wah wah wah I don't want your shitty sympathy, I'm here to discuss arguments, whether I do that with a hint of bitchiness is not important. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 12:14 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 11:00 PM
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Fucking snitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 10:45 PM
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I am sexually attracted to confident Yeah I know. If he stops being confident for whatever reason suddenly he's not so attractive anymore, even worse if he starts showing weakness. There's not a lot of room for a guy to trip up in this regard, he doesn't get the luxury of having someone really take care of his mental health when he trips up. I mean, there's some room but not a lot, and he has to sacrifice a good amount of sexual attractiveness for it. I suspect men also prefer confident women Su…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 09:47 PM
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I'm talking about sexual attraction. A woman cleaning up, cooking etc. doesn't really do much to make her sexually attractive, I can do all of that myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 09:15 PM
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Meh, there are some that do, it's just that if you're mentally ill you're not going to be sexually attractive for the most part. It's such a huge risk, you know... you might become depressed for a year and lose your job, lose your home etc. Women ain't got no time for that. If you're a mentally ill artist type, you're a risk, but you're a high-reward risk so some girls stick around. And actually even then, it isn't so much the mental illness that's so unattractive, it's your mental illness becom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 09:07 PM
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Pretty much. We can never be loved by women for just being who we are. They'll love us... but only as long as we hold up our end of the deal. Their end of the deal has already been met (be physically attractive) and all they have to do is not get fat and be hygienic. What happens if a guy becomes depressed and starts failing in his work life or just stops doing shit, or starts becoming anxious in social situations? Suddenly that guy is unattractive and how long will it be before he's out? Not ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 04:09 PM
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Bias exists, but I think that the bias is twisted to make it seem like men just want to put women down and hold them back. With the orchestras, for example, if men already make up the vast majority of players a person might instinctively believe that men are just better players and be biased towards them. People also forget that women are always going to be more likely to take more time out than men, and there's not a lot you can really do about that. If I'm an employer and I receive two identic…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 03:56 PM
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Pretty much. Feminism couldn't and didn't exist when 'patriarchy' and gender roles benefited women on the whole. It isn't something that finally happened after thousands of years of male oppression and struggle. It's not even remotely coincidental that it started to happen when it did and that it's been able to grow at such a rapid pace since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 05:16 PM
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Yup, women will be just as violent when it suits them. Obviously it doesn't suit women to be openly violent in public for the most part, it suits them to be seen as the fairer sex. Turns out... women can be just as shitty as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 12:43 PM
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Your opinion is simplistic rubbish though, obviously. I mean, come on. Either nice or not, what are you, five?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 12:40 PM
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I'm not just talking about politicians, I'm talking heads of business, judges, law enforcement, professors, researchers, etc. The vast majority of everyone in power is male. And you think those heads of businesses want to help out other men lol? You think those CEOs don't have wives who piggy-back off his wealth without having ever done any work for it? You say that judges and law enforcement are predominantly male, so fucking what when women receive lighter sentences for the same crime, and whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 07:45 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duluth_model
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 07:25 PM
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and finally they have legal equality. No they don't, they now have legal superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 02:40 PM
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You're mistakenly believing that because these men are in positions of power that they are the ones who call the shots. Most of these male politicians are just serious opportunists. They have no interest in helping other men and oppressing women, why the hell would they? Men have always competed with each other, it would only benefit the men in positions of power if they were able to disenfranchise the rest of the men in society. Men, especially not these individualist, arsehole politicians, gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 02:36 PM
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Of course looks matter but if a guy fucks up looks won't make a difference. A good looking guy still won't get laid if he's awlward and/or doesn't take the initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 01:47 PM
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You're the one who thinks that people are either just nice or not, and that who they're being nice to doesn't matter. I will always be a 'nicer' guy (helping out with problems etc.) to my best friend than I will be to some guy I don't even know. If you don't think this happens you're blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 01:38 PM
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Why do people assume this straight off the bat. The 'nice guy' is extra nice to the girl because he's totally infatuated with her, not because he's scheming to get in her pants. I'm nice and helpful with my friends because I like them, and I'm not nice and helpful with people that I don't like. It's crazy to assume that people will uphold the same level of behaviour with everyone around them. The difference is that I'm not totally infatuated with my friends so I'll tell 'em fuck off if they push…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:14 AM
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Still nope. See, if two people tell me how to lift and they are different techniques (I don't even lift btw) then who am I supposed to believe? Neither, I do more research and evaluate their information based on that and my own experiences. This is not the same as being told.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 09:58 AM
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No, they provide information which I can then consider myself and then I decide what is useful and what isn't. If you're just being told what to do then you aren't really learning, just following orders.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 11:44 PM
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You do need to be told how to work out, how to get smarter, how to function in today's society. As they say you are not born knowing people teach you this things. That isn't learning though, that's doing what you're told. You don't need TRP at all to get better at anything, except maybe to get a better understanding of gender dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 11:33 PM
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It's not even that. It's that I enjoy exercise, enjoy the things I find interesting for their own sake, enjoy flirting with girls because it's fun. It's inevitable that I would get better at them, but I do them because I enjoy them, not because I want to get better at them. I could have way better dating success if I forced myself to behave in a more extroverted way but I don't enjoy that so I don't. Maybe I could be more attractive, but I think it's natural to enjoy stuff that inevitably makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 11:30 PM
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I feel like there's really not much need for strategy. Do I need to be told to work out? To do interesting things? To become more intelligent? To talk to girls I like? Does this not come naturally to RPers or something? I don't consider myself to be a natural, I'm not that outwardly confident, extroverted, or anything and pretending to be so just makes me feel uncomfortable and I don't enjoy it. I end up with girls I don't even get along with anyway. You couldn't get me to not be my most attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 07:41 PM
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What is causing that imbalance Because there really isn't much of an imbalance at all, it just seems like there is. Societies condition this way to create a balance between men and women. That is, if I've correctly understood what you mean by 'imbalance'. Potatoes and potatoes to follow... I think we agree here anyway... not sure. Perhaps, this may be part of it. But again.... Surely this still applies in the otehr scenario... Women waiting to be approached can ALSO be approached by higher quali…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 01:28 PM
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I think you're making the assumption that societal rules don't seem to matter that much. A woman who is 'assigned' a partner may be 'lazier and more open to other suggestions', although you haven't given a good reason why that would be the case, you're ignoring the social and cultural conditioning that the woman would go through. The woman might be more active in finding a partner but sincerely believe that it isn't her place to actively look. It's very easy to convince people to do things or be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 01:01 PM
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because it makes me feel like a better man I used to think this was a shallow concept, in the wake of a rather interesting shroom trip I've really turned around on it. I was tripping ass one night and had the realisation that fundamentally, it's up to me to sort out my problems, that (apart from my doggy) no one really gives a shit about me. A man has the privilege and the burden of being the only one in control of how he deals with life. This is the masculine way, but our gynocentric and femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 12:45 PM
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Why exactly do you think TRP exists? These guys are only bitter towards women because they trusted them and had their trust broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 12:26 PM
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The truth is that men require the support of women if the MRM wants to go anywhere (big up Karen Straughan) and it has to show that helping men will help women and children. Feminism can get away with saying that feminism only helps women (they pay lip service to MRAs though to keep them quiet) because society fundamentally wants to protect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 12:24 PM
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Your inability to recognise critical thought isn't my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 12:14 PM
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Institutional discrimination is not "hate women". You are so full of shitty strawmen I don't know where to begin Ah yeah lol, then what is all of this misogyny? Maybe hate is the wrong word, men give women privileges because they want to put them down, better? Men received less funding for mental health because they are less likely to reach out for help. They still receive less funding IIRC. There are more privileges that women have that have nothing to do with women just asking for them either.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 12:09 PM
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You're so fucking alpha man, I can't handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:48 PM
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True to female nature you mistakenly assume your experience is the only one. True to the nature of presumptuous dickheads, you mistakenly assume I'm a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:40 PM
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I agreed with your post title but not with your overall post. It isn't the money that makes a guy attractive, it's the power that is implied with money, or maybe having money just makes a guy feel more powerful which makes him more attractive. Chicken or egg, I'm not sure, maybe a bit of both. I do agree that it isn't the be all and end all but this air of power is important. You can be an awesome and great-looking guy but if you're still kind of a wimp it's going to be a turn-off. I think it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 09:12 PM
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It's not just them, even lots of MRAs hate TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 08:59 PM
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Yes, they are a part of a larger system that enforces institutional discrimination. But it doesn't mean that they do not face significant problems of their own or that they do not deserve help. So when men commit suicide however more times than women and receive far less funding for mental health treatment, that's because men hate women right? I don't believe that men are part of a system that enforces institutional discrimination against women, and I've never seen any argument that has convince…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 08:15 PM
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'course you are, hon. I'm aware of my flaws, my ability to critically think about an argument and express my views isn't one of them. Don't patronise. Be a cunt, but don't be an insufferable cunt. Don't worry, I don't think you're a cunt, just dumb. It's pretty normal to assume that anyone who disagrees with you is dumb. I can point out evidence of your logical inconsistencies though, all you can do is say I'm dumb and hope that I believe it. When you say shit like 'you're not good at logic or e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 07:45 PM
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I'm not the one responding. It's time for you to look deep within yourself to find out. Yes you are, you're the one who's been pushing this ridiculous 'you are bad at english/logic/expressing your views. Anyway, here's a few examples of people thanking me for writing useful/interesting posts from today. https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/3v7f0j/im_fucking_pissed_and_saddened_by_a_top_post_on/cxlt0tm https://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar/comments/3v98il/ive_tried_to_compose_a_guitar_solo_i_would_l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 07:40 PM
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What is the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 06:49 PM
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They definitely aren't holding a grudge against these men, though. They are happy to help their perceived oppressors. You view all men as your oppressor then? I'm willing to bet they actually don't. I mean, why would oppressors have these problems that are specific to them if they have it so good? It is a solid assumption to make. Someone who is willing to help a group that they view as an oppressor is very selfless and definitely not bitter towards the privileged group. Yeah all those privilege…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 06:48 PM
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Please stop me, no seriously, I'm going to explode. I don't have a lot of tolerance for people like this but I can't stop replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:50 PM
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Got some dumb cunt being a cunt in my inbox so I'm not really putting much thought into the words I'm choosing. My main focus is to prevent a brain hemorrhage caused by reading excess stupidity and unwarranted smugness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:46 PM
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What? no, Fuck me, I get fucked by presumptions about what I think from both BPers and RPers. There's no hope. What is this. Fuck's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:39 PM
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So why are you a cunt? Because mine do and I'm smarter than you, there. I'm only a cunt to people who deserved to be treated that way. You just spent three paragraphs complaining about feminism without addressing any of its ideas. You keep going on about "nuance" and "deep". Do you know what those words actually mean? You know, people wouldn't make fun of you if you didn't act like such a retard. Yeah let me just write up everything that I think is wrong with feminism, like I have the time or th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:31 PM
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Maybe people are too polite to point it out. Yeah, PPD which is dominated by RPers is known for its politeness. I actually get quite decent feedback for my posts, and more importantly, why would I actually give a fuck what you think when you've demonstrated time and time again that you can't put together a decent argument to save your life? when you can communicate ideas as clearly as I can Because your ideas are simplistic trash lol. you will be allowed to name call Aha. I don't know what to sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:27 PM
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I actually think I've read your story before somewhere. What does your wife think of it? Yours is an interesting situation for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:48 PM
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Crikey, there's a difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:41 PM
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Tori black has an imperfect face? No, I mean the opposite. She's too classically 'hot' for me. I mean, theoretically I'd go for her more than a less good looking girl but I just don't. i just admire their beauty in a non-sexual manner. I find women a league or two above mine to be more attractive than the majority of 10/10 because they seem more attainable. I think it's sort of the same I guess, but I wouldn't say it's intimidation for me, it's more about compatibility. I want a girl who wants t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:40 PM
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I guess I just assumed because you have a RP flair...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:37 PM
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My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:22 PM
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Oh it's not like I wouldn't fuck her in a heartbeat, although you're right that I would feel uncomfortable because she probably wouldn't enjoy it that much. This girl is a model, she's fucked sports stars, is tall, blonde, impeccable. But meh, not my type at all, when I think about sex I think about two people having a good old erotic time and I just can't imagine that with her. I prefer porn with girls that don't have perfect faces... like Malena Morgan, Tori Black... do a lot less for me than …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:20 PM
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Your identity as 'protopill' regularly sharing your views online that your partner doesn't know about. People are getting the wrong impression about this thread. I'm not talking necessarily about your views, I'm talking about the fact that you align with TRP which is a fairly widely reviled community.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:02 PM
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Do you feel your relationship is less open because you kind of hide this identity of yours though?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:51 PM
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Does your wife know about your involvement with TRP and the manosphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:50 PM
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Yeah I agree with that, but my main point is that regardless of what society makes us think, the penis generally ends up making the decisions. I can't really remember the original point we were discussing because I've been posting all day, but what I'll say is that there's no point worrying about how high our 'demands' of women are, because they are always going to be as high as they can be. Far better to get people to realise that they are being bombarded with images of beautiful women, and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:49 PM
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There aren't a lot of BP on here. 15 is like over 50% (according to mbti thread, BP is approx 1/5 of 90 engaging posters, maybe 1/4 if you count the ones under black or no flair). There weren't any serious RP responses, although RP accounts for almost half of this board. I take numerous issues with your use of that thread as an example. Firstly, you're suggesting that it's a good example to use to show that one group is generally more altruistic than the other. The thread isn't about volunteerin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:40 PM
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I'm not totally sure what your point is right now but anyway... I think you're right to consider her below your standard. She's clearly not a physically attractive woman (as it stands because she's fat) but that doesn't mean that there aren't physically unattractive men that won't go for her. I don't think that societal expectations can override natural instinct, and it is one of the most instinctual behaviours to have sex. We may idolise certain kinds of beauty more than others depending on our…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 01:35 PM
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I just mean that we are bombarded with images of beautiful women, and as we men are more visual we respond to these images. True, but for all we hear about this, average girls are still getting laid no problem left, right, and centre. Men may get wrong ideas about female appearance (although I think this is hugely exaggerated for the most part) but it doesn't stop them from happily having sex with girls who are less attractive physically than they are. It is true that there is an idealised attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 01:08 PM
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That's a good point you've made. I was using 10/10 to mean looks, when in reality we're all 'hypergamous' when it comes to our desires. I may prefer a less physically attractive girl to a stunner but as soon as I meet a girl who surpasses the girl I'm with overall I naturally have a desire to be with her. I believe men more so because there are greater demands placed on women to conform to a certain image than men. Eh, I'm unconvinced. I don't think you can really 'quantify' the demand. I'm stru…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:55 PM
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What guy wouldn't date a superhot woman? This may sound like sour grapes, but I'd rather be with someone who was at my own level of attractiveness, and have always felt more chemistry with girls who are. I know plenty of 10/10 girls that I've never really felt any attraction to more than 'huh she's hot'. I think it's more of a fantasy to have that hot 10 under your arm than anything else. Agree with the rest of your post though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:29 PM
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This can be seen in the way that BP overwhelmingly volunteer and help the less fortunate Was there a poll taken or was it more the case that people who volunteered were always going to be the ones who said that they did? There were like fifteen BPers who replied saying that they actively helped, that isn't really overwhelming. Not to say that BPers don't volunteer more, just that this whole 'BPers are nice, RPers are nasty' idea is (again) just an incredibly simplistic viewpoint, void of nuance …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:24 PM
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The idea that women are 'evil' in a way that men aren't is logically inconsistent. Honestly, men are just as shit and capable of being shit as women. There's a tricky situation in which feminism is excusing shit behaviour from women and encouraging it, but on the whole women aren't any worse than men. The idea is pretty damn simplistic and stupid in the first place. Just expect that people will be civil but be aware of people who don't seem sensible and grounded enough to be civil. You expect me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:38 AM
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All the more incentive for self-improvement. You know, if you worked on them, your problems would be less pathetic. When your opinions have a little bit of nuance and evidence of deeper thought and analysis you get to be a cunt. When you parrot feminist ideology and get hung up on grammar you just look like an idiot. How exactly do you expect me to react to what you wrote when you have no higher ground to stand on in the first place? None of your opinions are remotely developed, you're a huge hy…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:24 AM
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Your english doesn't need to be fantastic. It needs to be legible and clear, which it currently isn't. It is though, you are the first person to ever have a go at me for it, so clearly I'm not struggling that much. You are straight up retarded if you thought I meant anything other than what I intended to say. You're trying to make it sound like I'm incapable of communicating ideas to mask the fact that you don't actually have any serious arguments. Name calling and swearing definitely isn't goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:24 AM
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I did, but I can do it again if you'd like: if female advantage can theoretically lead to female entitlement and/or lack of maturity, then male advantage can theoretically lead to same. If you're not actually arguing against the fact that male advantage exists, this should not be a threatening idea. It doesn't even have to be as much of an impediment to men's maturation as you believe it to be to women's. You can admit this, and still logically maintain that women are less mature than men. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 09:12 PM
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I'm just asking, don't be a retard. That's not even what it's really about anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 08:37 PM
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So is it acting or thinking...?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 08:15 PM
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This is the kind of naivety I might ascribe to experiencing male advantage Meh, I've heard every complaint from women and feminists. It's accepted in the mainstream that women are the oppressed ones who get to talk about their difficulties. Most women never hear about the male experience, or some do but it's like 'oh, men are pressured into not talking about their feelings', like that isn't a symptom of a far bigger problem. If I knew the answer to this question, I don't think I'd find a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 08:14 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 07:42 PM
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Is she that big in the US? I've only ever heard about her on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 07:25 PM
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No, "in exchange for" is not equivalent to "along with". Different meaning. "In exchange for" means you get one and lose one, like a trade. "Along with" means you get both. You need to work on your english along with basic logic (See, it means both your english and logic needs work). I'm very very clearly saying that I would accept a few people being mean to me if it meant that I could get better treatment overall. My english may not be fantastic, but I don't really give a shit, anyone who isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 03:27 PM
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So you would take the better treatment in exchange for people you don't even like being mean to you when they don't get their way? Or you would take the better treatment along with people you don't like being mean to you when they don't get their way? It's the same thing lmao. Make yourself clear if you don't like my interpretations. It's not my fault you're retarded. Wasn't going to, because I'm not a presumptuous tosser, unlike you. Yeah, please. If the nice guy wasn't an entitled prick to beg…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 02:04 PM
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Aren't they? I'd wager a bet that even ugly women/women who are not being viewed sexually are assumed to be more sympathetic, better with children/vulnerable people, and less likely to harm you overall (some of this is statistically borne out, too, but like you said---that doesn't make it fair to make assumptions). SMV is far from the only variable in so-called benevolent sexism. That's a good point but our instincts rest firmly in our evaluation of SMV. I know I'm nicer to prettier girls, doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 01:49 PM
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Which is what women go through. That's literally what I said, what the fuck are you on? Have you seen nice guy tm losing their shit when they realize they've been "friendzoned"? (Which is a bullshit concept, if you don't want to be her friend, don't pretend to be her friend while holding a grudge against her for not having sex with you) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9XDb0nxSO4 Yeah yeah, heard all that 'entitled nice guy' shit before. It's hilarious when women pretend that they have it so bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 01:05 PM
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Women treat you better if you are a man. Men treat you better if you are a woman. I appreciate the interesting post but... trusting someone isn't the same as treating someone well... they overlap sure but it's not even nearly the whole story.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 11:36 PM
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Yes, they are, in the general and in specific instances. In the studies I mentioned, the only variable being manipulated was perceived gender. He has not proven anything yet; the benefit (being chosen for a position etc) occurs without him having to do anything--same resume, man is assumed more competent than woman. Are you even reading what I'm saying? Men are assumed to be more competent than women because women are assumed to be incompetent. It isn't the case that men are presumed to be compe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 06:05 PM
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Okay....I think we're veering into semantics for the sake of semantics territory, but we can use your word if it helps. It's not just semantics, respect is something different to presumed competence. Respect is given after proof of competence. What kind of an effect do you think that default assumption of competence would have on your average guy? An ability to empathise with people who are presumed incompetent. I don't think it has much to do with men being presumed to be competent, men compete…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 04:21 PM
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What does that have to do with respect? I'm fully aware that people tend to think that guys are more competent than women but that doesn't automatically translate to respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 03:40 PM
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Do you think that men being less objectified I think this assumes that men are treated as 'people' the way that feminists wish for women to be treated. Men aren't treated as objects the way women are, but we are still treated as 'agents', i.e. what we can do for society. No one gives a shit about poor, unattractive, weak men. They aren't treated as people either. In fact, this idea of treating others as people comes purely down to raw compassion, which transcends sexism and sexual dynamics. more…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 03:05 PM
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1) Given that you used a 10/10 model as an example, your argument seems somewhat based on the fact that attractive women have it easier in life. However, attractive people in general have it easier. Unless we are going to say that attractive people are more immature than unattractive people, then there doesn't seem to be a specific reason to single out women just on this alone. I chose her as an extreme example to highlight a more subtle trend. Most women receive some male attention, depending o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 02:58 PM
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Women are right to be upset that they are treated as resources and not treated with respect and decency. Being made to feel uncomfortable isn't nice, I've been groped a few times, and I'll admit it's nice when it's a pretty-ish girl but uncomfortable when it's a guy or an ugly girl. The difference is that groping rarely comes with the feeling of objectification that happens with girls, which is where the difference is. It has a little to do with safety, but I as a guy can't take action against a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 02:46 PM
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Go easy man. It's natural for men to act and make the most of themselves, you don't need to force it, but at the same time it pretty much needs to happen. A man without some kind of discipline is a lost dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 02:42 PM
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It would fucking suck. The guys would be unbearable, the girls would be unbearable, I'd be so stoned. I'm always so fucking stoned at shit parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 02:40 PM
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The question is whether because of these sentiments and she had bad sex with him once, she should fall into the same category as a woman who got raped at gunpoint by a stranger and had to fear for her life, or one who got sexually abused for years by some person of "trust" within her vicinity and carries deep psychological scars because of her experiences. It's tricky because on the one hand you don't want to condone this kind of act, but at the same time... comparing a violent, traumatic rape w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 02:37 PM
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lmao yeah sure, like guys would join them if they had a few more hours per day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 11:32 AM
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No, society will treat you different for it. People pressure you to have sex. In RP's case, they also lie and gaslight to convince you to have sex. The same people will shame you for having sex or criticize you for not having sex. Sure, these people will be "nice" to you. But they're "nice" the same way a car salesman is "nice". It's easy to see that they're acting like that only because they want something from you, and that's a really uncomfortable feeling. If you actually engage with them, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 11:15 AM
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On the whole, you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 11:14 AM
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I'm talking about environmentalism, socialism, human rights etc. Nothing to do with student politics or feminism necessarily. I've only received positive responses from being involved (not much though) in those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 11:13 AM
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I thought Ronda Rousey was behind the guys because guys are stronger than women (I'm assuming this; I don't think she's fought any men). Is there some other reason she's behind? Nah, she has weak striking that only became obvious to most people after she got KTFO'd by a serious boxer. Women's MMA is very far behind men's MMA so she could afford to smash her way through the division. Don't get me wrong, she's real talented and very athletic, she's a beast, but the pure skill level she has is kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 07:24 PM
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I think a lot of people kind of discount the biological pressure men are put under too. It's not just that we feel the need to provide or whatever, it's literally that are biological success is dependent upon how we manage to create the conditions required for sexual success. I won't pretend to fully understand the female experience, but it seems to me that, on a biological level, they get what they're given and they do their thing fairly early on in their lives and that's it. Men are under enor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 07:03 PM
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In what way? Sorry you're completely not getting it. It doesn't even need to have anything to with personal relationships, it's simply that because you have sexual value society will treat you better for it. I mean sure, undoubtedly you get a massive advantage in dating too, but it goes way deeper than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 06:23 PM
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Yep, but you've strawmanned me by saying that their lives were easy, instead of easier like I said and by saying that it was because girls could have sex, instead of because guys want to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 06:11 PM
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but to act like women's lives are easy at that age because they can have sex is just stupid. Well then it's a good thing I didn't say that, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 06:09 PM
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Does a fat, black girl get an easier ride? Well she can lose the fat, and I'm not sure what being black has to do with anything. Ugly girls don't get the advantages of being a woman as much, I feel bad for them, they don't have it so easy for sure. I'm not surprised that most of them turn to feminism to be honest. At the same time, beauty is a trap. As you say, it's a temptation for pretty girls to milk their sexual value in lieu of effort that in the long term dents their maturity. It also bree…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 06:08 PM
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This is when life is actually REALLY difficult as you're focusing on your future. That's what everyone is doing. I try to avoid saying that one group has it better than another's because suffering is extremely relative, but women don't have it so tough here realistically. I mean, higher education is stacked markedly in women's favour. It's insane to me how you all equate availability of sex = only important advantage. Is it? Sex rules pretty much everything around us for the most part, even if i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 05:25 PM
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The difference (and maybe I'm just wrong) is that RPers narrowly define what it means to mature in the first place. Honestly, I've met a lot of women who on the whole are more mature than men around the early to mid-twenties. The difference is just what I mentioned, which is that they've yet to, or won't really ever, experience what it feels like to be worthless to society and what it means to take responsibility for your own worth to society. It's true that some women literally don't care about…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 05:17 PM
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Meh, everything I've read from TRP entirely lacks nuance. I've never read what I said on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 04:57 PM
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Of course, but the men are going to be looking for the down to mars women primarily and women will have to adjust their mindset, especially when it becomes overwhelmingly obvious that women aren't actually oppressed. Yeah there will always be guys who will bend to their every will but the numbers are going to get slimmer and the pickings will be weaker. We underestimate the actual power that men have in sex and relationships. Women want good partners just as much as men, and if they aren't getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 04:56 PM
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I hope so, but with the power and lack of accountability for that power that we're giving to a group of fresh adults it seems that the descent just isn't going to be that graceful. I don't have anything against women having a positive experience of life when they're young, even if the naivety kind of irks me past a certain point. The problem is how they're going to take it when they lose that power, which they will. It's not easy to swallow the fact that you're going to go from having lots of po…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 03:21 PM
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You're suggesting that anyone outside of the 'manosphere' is an objective source. Evaluating bias is important for any argument but academic research does not (or at least was never meant to) revolve around trying to find the elusive 'objective' source that will protect an argument against any attacks. I mean, you keep bringing up academics but it's pretty obvious you don't really know what you're talking about here and are just mentioning it to try and establish legitimacy to your argument (whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 02:35 PM
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The idea is basically simplistic rubbish but there's still something in there. I'm speaking very generally in this post, if you reply with something like 'bullshit, I actually am interesting, have developed in this way etc.' then I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just pointing out trends. Women reach their prime when they're around 18-24. A lot of them will find that life gets a lot easier during this period because so many guys are trying to fuck them, even if they don't want those guys. People …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 01:14 PM
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Sorry to disappoint you but there actually are attractive girls who are also decent people. Pretty much a huge part of why TRP exists, they can't accept that there are girls who are better looking and also better people than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:21 AM
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You're the one not listening to me, lol. I am, and it's not difficult to do so, because your opinions completely lack nuance. That's why when you come across someone who does have an opinion that isn't just 'yes/no' you struggle. It's pretty obvious that you have no intention of changing your views, you just want to smash your opinions through. It really gives credence to my idea that people who think blatant shit-testing is fine are uncivil. I totally get how you want things to be. But obviousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 11:13 PM
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Shit tests are meant to cause a reaction and weed out unfit males depending on their reaction. They don't have a singular purpose, mostly to gauge dominance (to see if you're more dominant than me), but they also can tell me if you're reliable, if I am looking to LTR you, etc. I know, you just keep showing that you aren't listening and just want to say things at me. Maybe I'm genuinely not explaining it well enough, but I get the impression that because you think your idea of shit-testing is jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 10:58 PM
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You keep arguing as if every shit test was extremely rude, when it's not. That was my point. Either you're not getting my point or I'm not making it clear enough then. It is. You have to keep up, if you don't, test failed All your remaining text is about how indecent it is, and that's cool if you don't like it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't serve its purpose, which is what I am arguing. I am also not advocating for a thing, if you noticed, I am not saying people should or should not, just tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 10:31 PM
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But you said that shit-tests happen naturally, which I agree with, and I'm saying that if you're consciously using it as sexual strategy then that shows a lack of common decency, whether you realised it were 'sexual strategy' or not. You should be aware of common decency, it's possible to play the game without making it an effort for anyone. If a shit-test goes beyond the kind of teasing that I would give a girl then that's too far for me. There's nothing I can do beyond the instinctive things t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 09:57 PM
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No, I'm very careful to point out that just because it's something unavoidable doesn't mean it shouldn't be controlled. You have to tow the line, right? Ultimately, if you're using shit tests as a sexual strategy you're losing out on decent people who find your lack of respect for common decency quite revolting. A little bit is expected, I expect a girl to 'play the game' as it were, just as I will, but it's just a game. In a similar way, if I'm playing a game of football with some friends I exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 09:21 PM
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You just imagine all of them as being done in a demeaning way and this is why you refuse to acknowledge it's a very common way for a woman to gauge the reaction of a man she's potentially into. "Everyone has these instinctive ways of selecting a mate but that doesn't mean you don't control them in the name of common decency." Oh do I?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 09:10 PM
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Yeah sure, the title bitch don't apply to all women but all women have a little bitch in 'em etc. Everyone has these instinctive ways of selecting a mate but that doesn't mean you don't control them in the name of common decency. Just because all women do it to an extent (I don't know though, never considered this much) doesn't justify blatantly doing it all the time. That still makes you a bitch in the same way that a chest-beating gym monkey who tries to 'dominate' everyone else in the room is…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 06:23 PM
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Rape statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 06:20 PM
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you to the point, you had to join the TRP resistance Once again, assuming things that aren't. You have to think about what you're saying before making shit posts. And I'm not even talking about feminists, I'm talking about women in general. I have nothing against women as a whole, but I reserve the right to call a bitch a bitch when she's acting like a bitch. Seriously though, I'm so bored of people sanctimoniously stuffing words into my mouth. This has been happening so much to me on reddit rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 06:20 PM
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Those aren't necessarily self-improvement areas. You can be interested in athletics, style, and making more money without it necessarily being a 'self-improvement' thing. TRP does these things for the sake of improving themselves, whereas those places can exist simply because they're enjoyable in themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 02:37 AM
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They hate certain behaviours that can be overwhelmingly attributed to women and not really to men much. Feminists think that any critique of women's behaviour is misogynistic, but is it? There are so many 'male' behaviours that are shit too but it's not misandry to point that out. It's like when feminists start telling men how to behave and start ripping on certain male behaviour. Are you telling me that they aren't being sexist? There are absolute sexists on both sides but that doesn't make eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 02:34 AM
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Reasonable people don't want to be with women who they know do this. Fine if that's what she's looking for, but most guys aren't looking for a sparring partner, and it doesn't stop her from being a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 02:21 AM
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Yeah, except that's exactly what you're not doing in this thread. This has nothing to do with the guy's pleasure, and you're taking it literally, because you desperately want for it to be the case. I'm not offended by your comparison, I'm laughing at your blatant hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 02:16 AM
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You should still treat your ONS like people worthy of basic respect Lmao, 'treat me with respect because I deserve it for being a chick but ew betas, betas are turds'. You make absurd claims about dehumanisation and then compare less attractive men to shit. I get it, it's a metaphor, that's a poor defense. I mean, you're pretty much the reason that men are so quick to generalise women in a negative way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 08:26 AM
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In most areas, but the root of the issue is that feminism is founded on faulty, grossly simplistic theory that defines men as the oppressors and women as the oppressed. Any opinions that deviate from this theory are immediately rejected. I basically think that this is because feminism has become an ideology and a kind of culture, and those things make any open-minded, non-judgmental discussion of issues or theory almost impossible. The world is a vastly complicated thing, and ideology just makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 07:02 PM
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Life becomes a lot easier to deal with when you start trusting that the vast majority of people don't have malicious intentions. I mean I really dislike feminism, for me it's an ideology that promotes a lot of ill-thought out ideas, and a lot of feminists can be quite obnoxious, but they still tend to be a lot more reasonable people than most from my personal experience. Feminists can't tell whether they hate me or love me. On one hand, I'm ostensibly in favour of respect and peace between the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 06:19 PM
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Might be an idea, before you go wandering around the world looking for your own perfection that doesn't exist, to consider the fact that we're all living with each other and getting ourselves in such a tiff over everything we dislike about it. No one's out to get you or me, or anyone for that matter. I find when a person just flows with the movement of society, instead of trying to change it or fight it, that they tend to be quite happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 05:22 PM
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What I desire is simple: equal rights, accountability for personal actions equally for each gender, opportunity, and a fair life that doesn't penalize me and hold me hostage for having a family. Good luck with that lol. America may be one crazy place but the rest of the world isn't so different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 05:06 PM
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Actually yeah lol, you're right. Economically 'we' (because men are not a team, men compete with one another) are better off because a small minority of men are better off. The whole pay gap thing is rubbish. I guess you see it everyday depending on what paths you take. I live in a rainy area and I would get my feet wet everyday if I kept walking through puddles instead of stepping around them, if you get what I'm saying. It's just impossible to really know who has it better in life. Feminists l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 04:30 PM
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Oh yeah sure, but men on the whole have it better economically. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't mean much though. MRAs play the game of pretending equality is measured in terms of the law, while feminists pretend equality is measured in terms of economics. Everyone is here because they know that both of those ideas are total rubbish.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 04:01 PM
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Maybe it's just the environment I'm in now but I'd probably be more happy to have sex with a feminist, no strings attached, than someone who isn't a feminist. Feminists have such a reputation to uphold that they wouldn't dare do anything to tarnish people's opinions of them. They buy you drinks and do everything they can to convince themselves that there should be equal effort between the guy and the girl when they know they don't need to. I mean it's never going to be crazy hot sex but it's bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 03:42 PM
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I've slept with over 130 women now, and I understand women and lack any resentment or hatred for them... It's got to be difficult for women to understand men as well. But once each gender understands each other, and properly identifies that there are inherent differences, they can begin to accept and love eachother again, sealing the rift. It's this ideology that men and women are the same that is evil, because it creates a lack of thought or excuse for the differences. Why are you vilifying wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 03:38 PM
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Thing is, I could also say that I've experienced sexual assault at university when a girl squeezed my bum from behind me and laughed about it with her friend. It takes so little for you to become a part of that statistic because most of what is described as sexual assault/harassment is actually pretty harmless. Rude, insensitive, nasty? Sure, but the actual number of women who have experienced traumatic sexual assault is much lower than feminists believe (backed up by the statistics, not just me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 04:22 AM
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Is our culture anything like 'muslim' culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 01:47 AM
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Attractive men are very unlikely to risk their status by openly adopting a stance that will devalue them. Realistically, it's up to women whether men's rights will be considered seriously at all which is why, as another user pointed out, female MRAs are much more successful. No one really wants to listen to a guy complain the problems that men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 11:11 PM
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Since feminists actually cannot achieve gender equality by creating an even playing field, they have two options. A) Abandon their quest for equality. B) Rather than seek equal opportunities for both genders, create an uneven field which disadvantages men. Since A has not happened, it's a logical conclusion that B is either already happening, or going to happen soon. And, given that the most recent generation of female workers is outearning their male counterparts, and that women have dominated …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 11:51 PM
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I (20f) Come back when you're late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 08:03 AM
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it's not a scientific term It doesn't need to be. outside of nature Humans are a part of that, we've developed naturally just like everything else in the universe. It's absurd logic to just pick a time in history and base your understanding of society in that period's context, which is what you've done. You've pinpointed a certain period of time in which those traits were considered alpha and now you're applying it to the present. Alpha 'traits' were considered alpha because they were the traits…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 08:47 PM
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First, it's a chick, not a guy. He's looking at what are alpha traits in the wild Don't be fooled, this is the wild. We like to think of ourselves as separate from the world but we aren't. The world is constantly changing and we are a part of that. which is what alpha really means Nope, no it isn't. Literally just look up the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 05:04 AM
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Whoever is on top is alpha, that's literally the definition. You can't just make shit up like that, it can't be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 04:15 AM
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You're applying what used to make someone 'alpha' to modern day society. Alpha = on top I agree that the people you're describing are the kind of people who are more likely to end up being alpha, but that's only if they're smart. If they end up in jail they aren't alpha, or at least not anymore. I've read what you posted before because I remember we had this same discussion a while back. The world is constantly adapting and if you can't keep up you ain't shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 04:08 AM
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I think you're using alpha/beta in the wrong context. Literally everyone here knows that we aren't talking about monkeys in a group (a pack? shit I don't know). Alpha/beta is situational. alphas are in jail. I guess you're simplifying but it's still not a great point to make. Alphas in the way you're using the term aren't in jail because if they're locked up in a cage they aren't that smart, and if they aren't that smart then they aren't getting ahead in society, so not alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 03:35 AM
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I think TRP speaks some truth when it comes to the reality of dating and sex in general but I disagree with many things they suggest, or I have a different angle on the same point. I think the main problem with TRP is that it doesn't understand how to get the power it wants. The users go crazy with all of this self-improvement, misogyny, and cynical shit. You don't need any of that to have an understanding of how gender relations work. They want to be in great shape, have interesting and fun liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 02:48 AM
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Now, men eat cheetos, smoke weed, play Call of dooty 8 hours a day, and have no idea how much a fucking barbell weighs. lmao, OP has no idea how many athletes smoke weed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 04:57 PM
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Men don't respect or see people they've just met as equal. If you show yourself to be equal then you'll be seen as an equal. Some guys are prejudiced and won't see you as that regardless, fuck them, there's not a lot you can do. Most men simply reserve their judgement until they know someone. Lots of guys (myself included) have inflated egos and won't see anyone as equal unless they show themselves to be, don't expect it to just happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 03:12 AM
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The only reason women dress immodestly is because it is immodest clothing. It's fun to do that. They get what they get for it and they should know it. This is in the same way that if I eat a huge pizza I feel shit afterwards. The pizza is great but I don't demand that I feel good afterwards. Immodest clothing simply is immodest and there's nothing that feminists can do about that. The fact that they try shows their lack of grip on reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 03:09 AM
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Hopefully so they can think for themselves. Nothing else really matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 08:01 PM
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Yes, and the coverage it gets does not support your argument. You were claiming that the mass media coverage does not speak for the base of the movement, I disagree. I'm actually not sure what your point is here. Very confused. Agreed, but do keep in mind that this is not some new modern phenomenon. This has been going on for ages Of course, but it's been taken on as a feminist challenge, and since feminism's core belief is that men oppress women, feminists will always see sexual harassment as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:49 PM
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Different girls go for different things. It's great, all TRP types go for being bulkier and they leave all the girls who like skinny pretty boys for me :) Athleticism can only really help though. I'm light but very strong and athletic for my size, that's an advantage over skinny fat guys who might look the same in certain clothes for sure. No worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 07:01 PM
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Again, the prominent rhetoric does not support your claim. Claiming that subsets of social movements with little coverage speak for a majority is pretty far fetched. Little coverage? Feminism gets an insane amount of coverage compared to other far more pressing issues. Ok. What's the problem then? It's tricky. I'd suggest it's a combination of having little empathy for anyone else and social exclusion. How do you fix that? Our society is founded on the idea that certain people will be excluded f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 05:50 PM
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Source? Like I've said, all media coverage suggests the opposite. The media doesn't want to talk about the fact that some people are so excluded by society that they just don't give a shit, or they're insane. People prefer to imagine that it's something that can be corrected in a few years with a good campaign, rather than something that exists at the core of society. The root of this problem is men harassing women on the street. No that's a symptom of the problem. I don't buy that feminists con…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 05:30 AM
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The yesallwomen hash tag was explicitly adressing this, that not all men harass women on the street, but all women are harassed on the street. So the feminist rhetoric as far as I know and as far as the media has covered doesn't support your claim that feminists say that all men do this. They have repeatedly and consistently stated the opposite. But their target audience doesn't reflect that. The people who are harassing women aren't following twitter trends. The fact that feminists don't realis…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 05:02 AM
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I can't control how people perceive the truth. It doesn't make sense for me to play it down just because people may inflate my truthful statements into something worse. The truth can be expressed in ways that omit certain aspects of it. Are there women who get harassed in some way very often? Totally. Is it a small minority of men who do it in certain areas? Yeah. Feminism strongly suggests that this is a male thing that men do to women, when it's really just a case of narcissism or social exclu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:55 AM
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If a group of people is trying to bring attention to the problem, it's prudent to listen. The women of the world didn't have a secret gathering to spread some weird lie about street harassment. It's very real and very common. Not believing isn't the same as not listening. When I use the word 'believe', I mean more that I don't immediately accept it. So I don't necessarily believe it but I've never said I don't accept it largely. I just think it's exaggerated. I don't enjoy being called a liar, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:30 AM
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Personally, no matter how much I wished something wasn't true, I would believe it if half the population insisted that it was. Mate I wouldn't believe something if 99% of the world said it was true. About people following you, what do they do for you to think they're following you and not just walking in the same direction? Like, it happens to me pretty regularly that i'll be walking behind a girl at night but i'm just going home. Is it like that or what? I mean really I don't care if dudes don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:54 AM
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Look up archived threads on cat calling on twox and askwomen. Yeah but you know why people seem like they don't believe women when they say these things. Everyone exaggerates and the only way to really understand it is to question it. Women seem offended when we question them about it as if their word is infallible. I think there's a difference between questioning them and just telling them they're wrong. I see women constantly saying that people don't believe them just because people are asking…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 12:33 AM
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I guess because we rarely actually see it happening. I've seen some very mild shit a few times but that's pretty much it. Also, if it were a daily experience for most women it would mean that the majority of men were doing it, or it's just a minority making it their life's work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:15 PM
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Yeah it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 05:08 PM
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Why are you so focused on what feminists think? Why not? They're doing an awful job at molding a harmonious society. Those are your only two constructive options. Yeaaah, except if I do that I'm immediately labeled as a misogynist, and definitely an arsehole. I'm sure you know all about how girls can turn everyone against you when you haven't even done anything wrong. I have no interest in getting into that beyond anonymous internet discussion boards because I'm already doing pretty well for mys…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 01:39 AM
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Firstly, I don't think that people should subscribe to ideologies and cultures, which is what feminism is essentially. These things shouldn't exist. So I don't believe in a world where feminists only consider female problems and MRAs only consider theirs, their issues are obviously connected. The problem is that feminism has already claimed supreme knowledge of gender politics, so won't allow for men's issues to be resolved or even discussed. Humans do this, they cling onto victimhood. Feminism …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 01:10 AM
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The entire point of your comment was to play the oppression Olympics, responding to my claim that it's nonsense to try to compare suffering. I stand by that. No it wasn't. It's pretty obvious you didn't understand my post. If I'm playing the oppression olympics then I'm one of the fat guys at the back, not quite at the very back, but not too far. Who's to say what's worse? If I hit my head and become paralyzed for the rest of my life and you get your phone stolen, it's worse to be assaulted. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 12:51 AM
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It would be pretty ridiculous to claim that women didn't have it much worse than men 100 years ago. You could have picked like, any other time and you picked that one.. Your perception of women having it easy is formed by your own negative experience and bias. Not really my experience that I was describing. I could probably assume that you didn't have cancer as a child like I did I don't really care, and the fact that this is a really poor example to prove your point makes me wonder if you were …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 12:21 AM
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Can't we just acknowledge that manhood and womanhood both come with baggage and damaging societal pressures without making it a competition? That would be great but feminism is founded on the fact that men are the ones with privilege and they oppress women as a whole. Until that myth is done away with equality for feminists will always be about women 'gaining equality' than actual equality. Being a guy doesn't make life easier or better, it's a completely different experience. Imagine being depr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 10:52 PM
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I agree with this. I'm a musician and there are very few proactive female musicians that aren't classically trained from a young age, aren't just singers with an acoustic guitar, or aren't milking the fact that they're a girl in rock. It's the least PC thing in the world but girls just don't dig on instruments and sound the way guys do. They enjoy it casually but there's no motivation for them to push the limits the way guys do. There are loads of female classical musicians because they pretty m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 05:03 PM
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Most hot girls are boring and/or dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 01:10 AM
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But women hate PUA too, and it isn't actually openly misogynistic for the most part. I think women do feel grossed out by it because of what OP said, but the hate for TRP comes from how bitter they are about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 12:08 AM
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No! The traditional idea of matriarchy is quite appealing. Older, wiser women ought to head society, they're generally more rational and have a calming effect on those wacko guys who will just do anything. A patriarchy is a horrible idea because there are so many crazy dudes who will do anything for power, and those crazy fucks are most often the ones who go for power, hence why we have so much fucking war and violence in the world. Feminism is often about denying reality. They pretend that huma…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 11:51 PM
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Yeah, men are dicks. I don't see what you're trying to say here, I'm not going to crumble at the first sight of your preposterous indignation. The university system is firmly stacked against men. Feminism is a wave, and it's going to keeeeep on going. Careers are going to firmly be a feminine thing (university already is, possibly not including STEM, not my field at all). Sexual harassment, as much as you clearly wish it to be so because otherwise you couldn't win arguments on the internet with …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 07:10 PM
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But I straight up think money is a very bad example to use, so I'm not convinced that you really understand the transactional nature of relationships. Girls don't really have to impress guys beyond initial impressions and having a nice personality, that's pretty much it, and that's great. Guys have to try all sorts of shit to get your attention and hold it. I'd be interested to hear what other examples you have. Maybe you're an exception, but I think it's fair to say that it's still men trying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 07:00 PM
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I'm talking about my experience, but I doubt you've ever really struggled to get into the labor force, you're just using history as a way to continue your much-needed victimhood. I'm sure it's different in STEM, but to pretend that women don't have an absurd amount of privilege in the humanities and arts nowadays has to be considered ridiculous. There are still a very fucking large number of women who have made their way into positions of 'authority' who now want to shit on all the boys as a kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 06:53 PM
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Less men are going to university because they're realising that it's just going to lead to them being holed up in a cubicle all day, and having to listen to Karen from HR talk about guys' butts before the very same Karen gives you an official warning for sexual harassment or whatever. Some guys can take it, but let's be real, university and employment (for humanities and arts anyway) is so female-orientated it's unreal. Yo, I'm on a course that has to be at least 80% girls, pushing 90% (and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 06:38 PM
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Not RP but here's what I think. I'm not a huge fan of people in general, so this isn't me suggesting that women are worse than men. Ultimately, what I really want is a gangsta bitch. Someone who believes in their own inherent value and actually wants to live, to be her own person etc. Someone who says fuck you to the majority of people and institutions because most of them deserve just that. Girls my age, university aged and a bit forward from that, are in a position where they have to do very l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 06:11 PM
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Why do you care so much about money? I don't give a shit about money, if a girl makes more money than I do (which is going to be the case) it's still on me to impress her. Money is just money, holy shit, go buy a jet-ski, no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 05:39 PM
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Word, life is magical. I feel bad for RPers who get so hung up on sex, thinking it's such a big deal. Man, writing a beautiful melody, getting stoned under the moonlight, real love, that shit is the real deal. Don't get me wrong, sex is great, but there's so many other things (that are better imo).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 09:53 PM
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Uhhh no, hot blonde gym bunnies, like Instagram models, tend to be found with hot rich male models in suits, only with men wearing gym vests when, well, in the gym, lol Alright then blonde trashy chicks, I don't really pay much attention to their goings on so I don't really know lol. You get my point though. Yes this is 'Demographics' theory, and is valid, but you still have to optimise to the hippy sub-culture. Yeah but I wouldn't really call it effort. If you want a chick with great style, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 02:07 AM
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Peak SMV 'sophisticated' women, not so much, time to suit up Yeah but that's only peak for some people. Types do definitely exist. A 'sophisticated' woman with a great career, pencil skirts, coffees and shit is a turn-off for me like crazy. I like hippie chicks, my idea of peak SMV is one of those. I find generally, similar people attract one another. So chances are if you don't care about fashion, but instead like sports, you're going to find a hot blonde gym bunny. If you like to play music, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 12:53 AM
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Am I the only one who's never felt insecure about my size? I get insecure about the shape of my nose, my posture, my teeth etc. but never the size of my dick. Even before I ever got laid I never was concerned about it. It's no more than six inches when I'm rock-hard but even like the first girl I ever had sex with looked at it and was like 'what, I have to put that inside me!? no way' and I wasn't really shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 12:21 AM
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Why? I see dudes just wearing tracksuits with hot girls all the time. I think fashion is a must if you want to fill a certain niche, women go for different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 12:18 AM
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No you weren't, you were just acting like a bellend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 02:06 PM
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N'aw, I also talked about determinism and how it still implies outsideness. Submitting yourself to fate is still denying yourself as the universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 01:15 AM
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Why doesn't this work? Alright I'm so mashed at this point so difficult to type. I pretty much explained it earlier, that due to the oneness of the universe, nothing you do requires any kind of external (ego) exertion. You breathe naturally, without any effort normally, but when I tell you to think about breathing it becomes very difficult to stop. The same is true for running, or any action. So if your ordinary consciousness is not separate from the universe then it also requires no external ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 12:54 AM
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dude i really have no idea how to respond to that haha
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 12:45 AM
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it's much easier to blame Blame doesn't really come into it. him then for not following a simple holistic recovery plan-diet, exercise, sleep-than it would be for his failure to grasp a situational depression. Suffering is relative, because suffering is the experience itself. A person who is suffering can have a tendency to get caught up in the suffering and make it worse for him or herself. Yes, having an unhealthy lifestyle will make you feel bad but getting caught up in bad times is a spiritu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 12:31 AM
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low testosterone, low serotonin, low dopamine, high cortisol Yah, actually the idea of 'chemical imbalance' for depression is being seriously questioned right now. It's like the best thing though, to try and retain control while simultaneously giving yourself the satisfaction of creating the illusion that you've got nothing to do with it. Mind and body aren't really so separate, they work in harmony. You know, serotonin, testosterone, dopamine, cortisol etc. levels are all affected by your thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 11:56 PM
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But isn't that an act, also? Yeah sure, I guess. There are two things to consider, the first is that there's nothing that you can do to free yourself from your ego. This is where Jesus' eye of the camel thing comes in, this is exactly what he was saying. You simply acquire experience from years of trying, and with that experience the understanding that there's nothing to be done. So you do nothing, and then you laugh at yourself for being so silly. /u/Ocean_Squeeze, 90% of your argument at this …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 11:39 PM
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What is the illusion and what is the reality? Reality is just everything around you, I hesitate to use the word reality because it has a tendency to mislead. An absence of illusion would be a better term to use. Your ego is an illusion, but the illusion is still a real illusion, it still exists, you know? How can it not exist, we're talking about it, yet at the same time it's an illusion. Well yes, I am saying if I completely went by your viewpoint, I would still be miserable. Are you saying oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 10:40 PM
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Genghis Khan handles shit tests by just killing people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 09:37 PM
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Sorry boys, camera on my phone is broken. Maybe another time, you cheeky fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 09:35 PM
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by this view, I am at war with myself. It's just a different way of looking at the same thing, and I won't say you're wrong but- it doesn't change anything. Try not to think of it as a war, war requires effort. You're tricking yourself, and an illusion always disappears after you see it as an illusion, dig? So when you do finally figure out the illusion, you laugh like hell. it doesn't change anything. I am the same after accepting your viewpoint as I was before it. You haven't really accepted i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 09:22 PM
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I ain't even RP, hear my thoughts. I don't think all feminism, as a social movement, is bad, some is cool and right. Most is bad though because people are stupid, so it's pretty much inevitable. 'Good' feminism, is basically just righting wrongs, same with some MRA, you know, actually creating equality in realistic ways is great. Shitty feminism is basically a shit test, yeah, because these girls and guys don't have a clue what they're doing. They want to restructure culture in their vision, in …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 08:45 PM
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Especially if she gives prostate massages tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 08:27 PM
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I actually think you're misunderstanding depression, and this is kind of a super unpopular opinion but whatever. Your depression isn't something that happens to you, it's your experience itself. You thinking that you catch depressions like a cold is exacerbating the problem. The depression is firmly caused by your dissociation with the world, you feeling like a victim of it you know instead of a part of it. This is the ego problem, right. Ultimately, your mind still works in perfect harmony with…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 08:19 PM
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If women had two identical men Which happens how often? See, mr. 100 grand may be able to afford a 'better' lifestyle, but he's likely spent all of his time working for it and lives a dull life. TRP and PUA are all about trying to make it seem like you're an exciting person, because by virtue of the lifestyle you've chosen there's not much space for organic excitement. I guess you've just gotta fill your niche. I find insecure chicks boring and generally awful, and they'd probably think the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 07:22 PM
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Superior homegrown. See you have to let that shit ripen. You buy all this wankdust from criminal enterprises and they don't let the plant reach the end of its natural lifespan, and they harvest early. Like a banana, or a mango, you don't get the real treat inside if you take it too early.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 07:12 PM
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But the red pill doesn't offer real game, it offers acting advice, a bit of fun when it goes well but not the real thing eh. Excitement requires a loss of control, but RPers seem to cling onto control for the most part. It's like organised fun, it's an oxymoron.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 01:55 AM
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Firstly, the world extends beyond the US. Inequality is less extreme here. Obviously there's poverty, but we don't live in a world of scarcity anymore. There's not much chance that someone is going to starve or be homeless etc. It can happen, sure, but it's rare. You can live happily on not that much as long as you've got the basics down. Let's say you're a guy at university. All of those girls are going to be just fine and they know it. Like, I don't want to sound callous, but I doubt anyone he…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 01:51 AM
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I smoke too much, literally just plopping words into my post at random.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 01:51 AM
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OP, it's all a bit silly but here's my thoughts. It's true that feminism for the most part is just shit, really no clue what's going on. Here's the thing though, you've just got to adapt and make your own way through the obstacles presented. Society changes and men have to adapt to prove their 'worth' (according to society), and this is the test that men for some reason are obliged to take part in. You don't need to be a provider in the traditional sense anymore, there's more than enough securit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 04:35 PM
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I think he was just trying to point out the hypocrisy. I completely agree, that if you want to 'get ahead' personally then you can't rely on society to make things easy for you. I think OP is basically just having a dig at feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 04:01 PM
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self-improvement is a stupid concept in the first place. People who are into self-improvement are generally insufferable arseholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 09:31 PM
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The black community pretty big community there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 09:19 PM
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Yeah yeah but their SMV is still not much higher, they've just stopped shooting themselves in the foot. An average guy, under ordinary circumstances, is never going to get a hot girl, it doesn't matter if he gets a good job, has interesting hobbies, or works out. A lot of RPers are delusional about this and actually think that they will.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:58 AM
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You deflected blame onto outsiders for something you male or female should be doing. It is your job to ensure you are not highly inebriated with strangers. It is your job, male or female, to not go into sketchy neighborhoods. It does not matter that you have the right to do so without being pestered. It doesn't matter if it's inconvenient. That is not smart. I never said that the perpetrator wasn't to blame because you made a bad decision, I'm saying people have agency and are expected to use it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 12:57 AM
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It's hilarious that you've judged from my post that I couldn't possibly have gone to any of these places but you couldn't even figure out what my gender was. You're definitely not Sherlock Holmes. You have the deduction skills of a five year old. Here's a link that you might be interested in. I never said that women don't sometimes make bad decisions in looking after their own safety, simply that there's zero evidence whatsoever that they care less than men. From my personal experience, women do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 11:44 PM
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and you whiteknight for women on the internet. Yeah... nah I rip on everyone pretty equally. I just don't pick and choose sides because I don't have a peanut for a brain. Please. For your own sake, stop embarrassing yourself. Nothing you say has any weight whatsoever. Absolutely nothing. No experience in the very things we are debating. Let's be real, it's for your sake because you've realised that everything you say is based on nothing at all. You seriously need to hit the weights bro if you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 11:26 PM
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Hahahahaha. You're definitely young or live under a rock if you dont know that. It took this long to reveal that you have no clue what goes on in the world. That you've never been to a bar or to a college party. If you make lofty claims, bring a source. Today we've established that you're lazy (wont read excellent list of sources), entitled (womt take necessary precautions just because theymre inconvenient and want men to pick up your slack), ignorant (have no clue what goes on in bars or in col…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 11:08 PM
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Yeah, teach the kids and eventually it'll change, this is how it happens. Education. Just wait for old people to die, that's how culture changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 11:00 PM
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I dont need a source for that. Ok, well then why don't you keep your delusions to yourself? Your 'observations' which are already clouded by the obnoxious ideology you've subscribed to are worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 10:59 PM
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Things like you describe i believe are really more cultural issues. Which can largely be directed by government initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 10:41 PM
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There you go, that's all I needed to hear. The links are the sources. But you're the one claiming that women take no care to protect themselves, and where is your source? Until you can show evidence for that we just assume that women do actually care about their safety. You're the one making lofty claims not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 10:37 PM
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That's exactly what you should be doing, especially as a woman. Im over 6ft, and over 200lbs and I dont get drunk beyond a buzz with people I dont know, and I dont venture into sketchy neighborhoods even if I want to be there. I dont stand there saying its my right not to get mugged, I avoid it entirely. It's common sense. You look both ways when you cross the street right? You dont walk across the street without checking and then expect cars not to hit you. That makes mo sense. You are a woman.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 10:01 PM
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Most real rape is by someone they know. Most false accusations, the majority of the cases, the majority of the hysteria, the supposed justification of the current legal climate, comes from bad decisions with strange men or because they want attention like the mattress girl. They even blame it on date rape drugs (very rare), only to find out it was the alcohol in their system. Women do anything to displace responsibility of their actions when they regret it after. Where are you getting this from,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:46 PM
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Yeah I'm sure dude, keep dreaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:30 PM
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Rubbish. You've never lived a second as a woman, and you have no idea what it's like. The problem with feminism isn't that women don't experience problems and that it's just one giant facade. The problem is that it's an ideology based on the theory that women are oppressed and men are the oppressors, which is just false.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:21 PM
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If women want to stop being harassed and raped, they should stop wearing intentionally revealing clothing (you can dress fashionably without your ass n tits hanging out), stop walking alone at night, stop drinking excessive amounts of alcohol around strangers to the point you cant make good decisions, stop going home with strange men, And stop doing and saying dumbshit that would result in a man getting his ass kicked. RooshV had a good article on the subject. Most women are raped by people they…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:18 PM
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I never said that men don't have problems. But well done on being a moron and making it another 'us vs them' thing. Seriously, pat yourself on the back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 08:26 PM
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They have been for a long time, and yet they're still problems. Just criminalising something doesn't resolve the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 08:25 PM
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Honestly online dating is a terrible idea in general. I suspect most of the success that happens come from the fact that people who are actually looking for success through it are pretty desperate in the first place, and a few people just get lucky. You can't judge a person from their dating profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 07:36 PM
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Sexual harassment, fear of women's bodies and female sexuality (look at porn laws in the UK, free the nipple, breast-feeding etc.), and a generally dismissive attitude towards a lot of women springs to mind (but this is a tricky subject because feminists have a tendency to denounce any criticism or judgement of women as just that, but having said that it still definitely exists). I'm not a fan of feminism, but you're deluded and very stupid if you think that women don't face serious issues that …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 07:33 PM
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No. Just because some women have it relatively easy doesn't mean that there aren't serious issues that need to be fought to help women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 07:24 PM
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He's more attractive than he was probably, but RPers think the game will suddenly become easy and they'll be getting hot girls. News flash, you'll be getting exactly what you give, which isn't a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:48 PM
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Bob's still fuck ugly though. He might be getting laid from time to time but he's not having lots of sex with hot girls in their early twenties, or really any university-aged girls. You can be awkward, shy around girls, and play video games all day and still get a good amount of attention as long as you're an attractive guy. RPers are kidding themselves by thinking that they're going to be seriously upping their SMV when they get into their thirties. The reality is that they're just getting acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 01:52 PM
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I think the distinction to be made is that even 'fatties' and very unattractive women tend to have a safety net. People may poke fun at them from time to time, but they don't have such a hard time making friends, and they don't typically face disdain for them from the opposite sex like very unattractive men do. Maybe men will ignore them, but society will never work to fuck them into the ground like it'll do with men who can't keep up with the rest. This is what feminists just don't get, and whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 10:22 PM
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I think it's an important step in liberating women from unnecessary modesty. The female nipple is no more offensive than the male nipple so why make it illegal to show one and not the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:34 PM
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Young women actually outearn young men and are more educated Having a degree isn't the same as being educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:27 PM
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Yeah. EDIT: I hope, as always, I haven't been labeled as a RPer for criticising certain groups. I actually am a vegan lefty type, and a lot of the people involved in these groups embarrass me to no end.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 12:18 AM
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Man, in martial arts there are so many girls who genuinely think that they're serious shit in a fight with guys. Not that they can't have skill or determination, just the level of delusion is unreal. They get all uppity if you go easy on them, rolling their eyes and talking about egos but they also get pissy whenever you smash them. They're a pain in the arse to spar with or roll with for the most part because they use all of their strength and speed, while you're having to very consciously be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 09:51 PM
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Yeah, I don't believe that for a second, sorry. And I didn't say hatred, I said indignation, which you guys get off on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 09:39 PM
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Two points. First, women binge drink like crazy. Second, the understanding of maturity is off-base in the first place. Being mature isn't the same thing as being serious. Put a serious person in a very difficult situation and watch them crack, watch them wade through life with no clue of what they really want, constantly a bit pissed off, with no idea of how immature they really are. The most mature people are the silly ones. Look at the Dalai Lama as a good example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:58 PM
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Yeah that sounds like bullshit. Also, what is with this laundry shit. The reason people don't do their own laundry is because they're lazy fucks, not because they don't know how to put their clothes in a machine and press go.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:49 PM
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TBP doesn't exist as a place to critique TRP, it serves as a place for people to get off on their indignation for other people. BPs don't realise that all the joy that they get from hating TRP can only exist because TRP exists in the first place. This is the same for every ideological group though. Vegans, leftists, feminists, MRAs, conservatives etc. They get a rush from the indignation that they have for other people who aren't like them and insist that their repulsion for the other kind is Go…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:45 PM
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They've got to stop trying to get something out of a relationship. When you're trying to get something out of a relationship you're constantly trying to get one up on it, you can't just enjoy it as it is. The best relationships are when two people just like each other and find each other attractive. If you go in with a narcissistic mentality it will never go well because it'll be impossible to really connect with the other person and enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 12:00 PM
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But people with 'education requirements' aren't looking for a specific education. No one has 'Must have a degree in ancient history' as one of their relationship requirements. What people who have these university education requirements are suggesting that they want is a more generalised education. They want 'educated' people, supposedly. The truth is simply that a university degree is a symbol of social status, not a mark of how educated a person really is. No amount of schooling is necessary f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 03:25 PM
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Well we're basically seeing now that even graduates are having a hard time finding jobs. Looking more and more worthwhile to go into a trade instead, or just to do your own thing. My point was that women who require a university degree in a partner will say that they want that because they want someone who has the same level of education, but in reality it's because they want someone with a nice white-collar job, for their own social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 03:03 PM
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The funny thing is that university isn't about getting an education. You don't go to university to study history, you go to university to study the scholarship of history, and the goal is a nice piece of paper saying that you know how to get good grades in history. If you want to educate yourself, go to a library or use a computer. University is only really good for technical subjects and specialisation. It's just a scam for everyone else. It always makes me laugh when people assume that they're…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 12:57 AM
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To add to what you said. The girls that do go for the 100k a year guys aren't really doing it for money, they're doing it for the security. You'll get girls who are looking for a husband so that they can get that nice house, car, two kids etc. like they're supposed to, but the money itself isn't going to get you laid. Anyone not looking for a life partner isn't going to give a shit really.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 09:15 PM
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RPers also seem to think that early 20s hot girls are going to be going after them. Yo, I don't know any girl (and this is my age range) who's ever been with anyone like that. Girls that age are mainly concerned with having fun and getting with hot guys. If you're one of those guys who thinks that they'll suddenly become attractive in your thirties then you aren't hot. Secondly, let's be real, are RPers actually going to be fun guys to be around? They're so obsessed with their status and how peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 06:18 PM
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When she says "Where do you want to go to dinner?" 25 years of being her husband tells me she literally wants me to pick. It took you twenty five years of being married to her to realise that 'where do you want to go for dinner?' means she's asking you where you want to go for dinner? She really lucked out with you huh ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 10:24 PM
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Don't try and get out of this one with words and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 11:28 AM
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RPers once again firmly up their own arses. Mate, you did not discover genetics, that was Gregor Mendel. You're deluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 11:15 PM
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RPers will never understand polyamory/open relationships because their idea of a relationship comes from medieval times. To them, their partner is barely another person, just an extension of their fat egos. I feel bad for people who are coerced into doing so when they don't really want it, but there are plenty of people who would be perfectly happy with it, even if they didn't want to have sex with anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 11:09 PM
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lmao the manosphere is the same thing, just different colours.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 06:35 PM
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They don't need to be explicit about it for it to be obvious, and the vast majority of people are like this. Everyone is constantly preparing for the future and constantly worrying about what other people think of them, even if they don't realise it. There's so much pressure on people to live in a certain way even if they don't really want to do that. This is western culture though. Everyone is afraid of time and are constantly fighting it instead of just flowing with it. People emphasise produc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 11:40 AM
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Meh, more people on this sub accuse me of being a feminist than an MRA. In reality I'm smart enough to not subscribe to some kind of ideology and I can pick and choose the points that I agree with and disagree with. Feminists think they're really fucking smart. They're not, because they've decided to align with an ideology, instead of just being rational human beings who can make their own decisions for them without sticking labels on themselves like they're the new kid at primary school.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 11:29 AM
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Too obsessed with self-improvement and too insecure to talk to other people naturally. Rarely enjoying life, obsessed with status.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 11:33 PM
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Women are typically friendlier, easier to be casual mates with but it rarely goes further than that, for me at least. I'm on a university course that's heavily skewed towards women and I've experienced this. You can basically cancel out all the girls who are into me because they're either too shy to do anything except stare and giggle or they try to become friends with me but back out when I don't want to go any further than that. They're all perfectly pleasant for the most part and I get on wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 11:30 PM
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I hate wearing suits of any kind. They're for squares, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:22 PM
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Firstly, if the judiciary and political elite (almost off of which are men) actually belive that women shouldn't be help accountable for their crimes, then we need more feminism, not less, in order to convince them that women are just as human as men. That is not why women receive lesser sentences. Stop painting everything that benefits women as benevolent sexism. More feminism won't help this because feminists will never attack women. Feminism, as much as certain people would like it to be so, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:16 PM
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Excellent dude. I do my bit by buying really high quality eco/vegan clothes. I have a jacket that gets endless compliments, and it's made from recycled bottles in Japan but looks like very real, high quality suede. I keep quiet about the cost but you'd be amazed at what clothes can be made from materials with very very little environmental impact. Truth is, yeah we're all playing a kind of silly social game and most people are too invested in it to have any real perspective, but the environment …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 08:23 PM
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His 'boring pop stuff' is a lot more musically interesting than his later stuff. I like his later stuff too, but to say his pop music was boring is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 04:40 PM
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Climate change is the only real threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 03:57 PM
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Yeah, because you've already changed to get her validation. I'm sorry, I find it seriously hilarious whenever I hear a RP talk this sort of crap. You guys are ego-maniacs, you care so much about what other people think of you that you joined an online support group to change so that other people would think that you were 'better' than you were. You guys have got to quit your bullshit, pretending that you're these stoic dudes who don't care what anyone else thinks about them. You guys try very ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 04:10 PM
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Isn't like the whole premise of TRP about changing to get some tail? It just seems far too convenient that RPers don't care about what others think of them but spend their whole time doing things in order to get people to think better of them. I actually understand people who say that they dress in a certain way for themselves, because they like it, but I have a hard time believing that people chase after 'status in society' without caring about what other people think about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 11:55 AM
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No, didn't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:31 PM
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What are you victims of exactly? Yes, people can be dicks, that happens to everyone. Yes, there are things in society that are unfair to men, but this isn't comparable to racism or the holocaust. Your masculinity is not under threat, masculinity is worshiped in our culture. What is actually under threat is misogyny, which is the only way you see yourselves as being masculine. Deal with your own insecurities instead of dragging people down with you. See, RPers think that they're masculine but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:15 PM
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In comparison, as far as I know, there aren't populations of individuals within a discriminated group that actively make fun of the same group they belong to. For example: Oh my god, there is literally no comparison to be made between TRP and any of these groups of people. You can't be seriously serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 01:14 PM
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RPers don't really understand sexual attraction. Women aren't sexually attracted to wealth, status, or power. Yes, women are sexually attracted to more than just looks, as are men although not as much, but none of these things turn a girl on like some delusional RPers seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 01:12 PM
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Very few RPers seem to actually leave the internet, and when they do their head is still firmly stuck there. People who are more concerned about the perceived attractiveness of girls will go towards whiter girls, but that doesn't really mean you aren't sexually attractive because there's a difference between actual sexual attraction and RP types giving you a number.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 01:04 PM
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Back when I was 18 to 20, I ran the castings at my father's TV production company. I was about as skinny as Evan, maybe a little thicker, I was still getting action from models and actresses extremely frequently. You know why? Because I had the power if they got in or not, they weren't even trying to fuck me to get a part, they felt that was attractive and gave them the tingles. Yes, the rest of the thread is hilarious but this is the funniest part. This guy genuinely thinks that he, as a skinny…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:46 PM
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--don't talk about your feelings and don't show lots of emotions. The only one who cares about your emotions is you. Masterplan for reducing the male population via mass suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:19 AM
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Be yourself is actually the best advice. If you spend so much time trying to be someone else you end up like the ego-maniac RPers who spend most of their days convincing themselves and others that they're happy instead of just being happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:12 AM
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Who the fuck cares? no one goes jogging for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:09 AM
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What I really want to know, and I won't ever know for sure because RPers obviously would never admit to it, is this. Do you actually act this way towards your wife? Like, I just find it so hard to believe that you really directly 'lay your terms out' like that. I think you have this wacky idea that you would (if you wanted to), in real life, tell a woman that you would only date her under (insert circumstances here). Not only do you think that you would do that beyond your nutty fantasies, but y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 11:37 PM
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Yep, this happens so much it's ridiculous. Typically nonsensical and arrogant RP one liners get upvoted right to the top and the rest fall behind. A lot of RPers also have the habit of immediately downvoting every reply they receive that they don't agree with, which I don't really understand. I already know that they don't agree with me so I don't really get the point. I really get the impression that not many RPers are actually interested in debating a point, and are really only interested in d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 11:19 PM
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Yeah no doubt, if you throw someone who's never swam before into an olympic race they'll do terribly, but the first thing you do with someone who's never been in water before is to put them in the water.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 05:29 PM
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Most of us were incredibly empathetic prior to finding TRP. I kind of doubt that. Not saying that you were less empathetic than everyone else necessarily (although I'm sure many were). That empathy was abused, manipulated, twisted and spat on as soon as we stopped fitting their agenda. So what? Learn to deal with it. If you hate people who abused and manipulated you because they lacked empathy, why are you so eager to be like them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 05:28 PM
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Because only people concerned with what people think of them would actually give a shit about people who are obsessed with status.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 11:54 AM
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All you're saying is "TRP BAD!!!111!" -- you're not providing any evidence to back up your unfounded assertions. Show me a link or an article where TRP describes de-pedestalizing women in that manner. Show me a link or an article where TRP says to lie about everything. Show me you've actually made an attempt to understand what TRP is and that you aren't just blathering on with blind hate. TRP's obsession with self-improvement, and validation is evidence of their insecurity. They're always unhapp…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:02 PM
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Why? There are people that are experts at developing empathy and methods that can be taken. The Dalai Llama and meditation come to mind, as well as others. They aren't teaching you how to swim, they're pushing you into the water ;) Where's the catch? Empathy is only real if it's done for other people. As soon as you try and do it for yourself, it ceases to be real. As soon as it's real you're no longer doing it for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 10:23 PM
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By what, specifically? That you do all of these things because you love them, and that being more attractive is just a bonus. Not very convinced. 0-for-2 in answering the question. For a third time, how is what you call "bashing self-esteem" different from "taking a woman off her pedestal"? This is a pedestal. See how it's off the ground? This is a pit. Notice how it's below the ground. Now the pit is just a metaphor for your self-esteem. RPers think that everyone with higher self-esteem than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 10:15 PM
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Yes, but it would be a good idea to read a few books beforehand so that you don't drown. That's kind of how TRP works. It's even more absurd to learn how to be empathetic from books than it is to learn how to swim from them. You can't learn how to experience a feeling, you just do. I don't see an issue with developing empathy as a means of bettering yourself. I see it as essential. I see it as a kind of catch 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 10:03 PM
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Take it from me, losing your virginity in your twenties won't solve the problem of your depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:28 PM
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The goal is precisely to enjoy those activities for their own sake, because then you're outcome independent. The idea is obviously to maintain her attraction, but if it doesn't work out you're in a good situation anyway. I'm unconvinced. Rather than answering my question you've simply insulted red pillers. Try again. How is "bashing self-esteem" different from "taking a woman off her pedestal"? I do think that RPers have terrible insecurity issues and I take no joy from it. As much as I enjoy po…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:20 PM
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If you're trying to gain empathy to better yourself it's not really empathy. You're just going to tangle yourself up in your confusion. You know, if you want to learn how to swim you jump in the water, you don't sit on the edge of the pool reading books on how to swim all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:15 PM
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Recognise it and avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:11 PM
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Yep. Abuse can be subtle. If she found out what you were doing it would probably leave her with serious trust issues, and the manipulation would probably damage her self-esteem. It's mostly insecure women who go for RP guys, and those people are more susceptible to further damage to their self-esteem. And for you, what do you lose for having not gotten laid? Nothing really.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:11 PM
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I'd give myself a small cut to save someone from breaking their leg. I think that contributing to someone's insecurity is worse than you not getting a slimy penis. Unless of course your self-worth very much relies on your ability to get laid (which it does, duh), in which case I'd still say that you should leave her alone because she probably never did anything to your self-esteem, you do it to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 06:34 PM
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Independently, how are any of these activities dishonest? The goal is to keep your partner attracted to you -- is that goal somehow dishonest? Because your goal in all of those activities is not to enjoy them for the sake of what they are, like you would have her believe, but to use them to make her feel insecure. You said "bashing self-esteem," which is simply "taking a woman off her pedestal" dressed up in more inflammatory language. What's the difference between the two? You treat your self-e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 06:29 PM
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Now let me pose a question: Do these BPers all of a sudden care about the male experience? Are they legitimately trying to help the men out? Do they want to help us be successful in the SMP all of a sudden? Your ability to get laid is definitely not more important than other people's emotions. I deffo don't feel sorry for any RPer who couldn't have sex one night after going around being a dick to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 05:55 PM
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The only example of "tricks" you give is "bashing at their self-esteem." How is shit like 'dread game' not a trick? The whole thing is a trick, because you never tell her that you're playing a game. You can never have an honest relationship as a RPer because RP views are vulgar. You'll always be manipulating people into believing that you're not as mean, cruel, manipulative etc. as you actually are. How is taking a woman off her pedestal inherently dishonest? I never said that, why would you sug…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 05:51 PM
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I never said to trade your RPness for insecurity without the sex, although that'd still be less damaging to everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 05:44 PM
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You implied that women don't experience poverty anymore if they aren't tied to a man, and we're telling you that it's not true. Now you're back-pedaling and going on about how irrelevant it is. Why don't you just answer her question? PPD has plenty of room for side-tracking anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 05:42 PM
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Why should morality not be a part of sex and relationships? RPers like to pretend they only care about themselves but I think they're just afraid to be empathetic for fear that it'll crumble their world view. If they were to murder someone I'm sure most of them, except for total sociopaths, would feel serious remorse and reevaluate their past actions. The truth is that actions have consequences and it's nice to be genuinely nice to people. That's its own reward. No RPer is finding happiness thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 05:09 PM
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and we're still happy Yeah sure dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 04:41 PM
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Meh, I don't know where you live but I've seen plenty in pretty affluent cities. Hardly statistically insignificant. Sure, there are more men, but that doesn't mean that no women suffer from homelessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 04:38 PM
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It's not really a situation that anyone wants to or ought to be in. Luckily for them of course, in your ideal world they'd have the option of being with someone who thinks that having to have sex with people they don't want to have sex with so that they aren't thrown into poverty is perfectly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 04:37 PM
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Is working out, gaining confidence, and learning how to talk to women somehow dishonest? Yes this is definitely what TRP is all about. and learning how to talk to women somehow dishonest? You say learning to talk to, I say manipulating, because you actually can talk to women like ordinary people. You can learn to flirt, but that's not the same as learning to talk to someone. It's manipulative because you pull all sorts of tricks to try and convince them that you're good for them, mostly by bashi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 04:31 PM
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Being homeless sucks for both genders. How can I take you seriously when you say stuff like 'women can't lose, if they don't like the men they're with they can just go on welfare or go to soup kitchens!' like that isn't entirely awful. Man, I've met a few homeless girls and I always got the impression that their situation sucked ass. So in your ideal world it would basically be that or getting shacked up with an abusive douche, wouldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 04:28 PM
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So either be with you or become a prostitute? I'm starting to understand TRP a lot better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 04:25 PM
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Because they wouldn't leave you for fear of not being able to eat?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 03:51 PM
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Is that why TRP wants to return to 50s gender roles, so that women will basically have to have sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 03:16 PM
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No, it's a simplification. Not really if it obscures the truth. You're not saying that meanness is unattractive if you're saying that girls like guys who are mean to them. This isn't a place to help people, it's not TRP, this is a forum to debate the truth, so why you're being deliberately disingenuous (which I don't believe really, I think you just have a hard time accepting that most of you guys don't really know what you're talking about) is beyond me. I mean, sure if you explained that you o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:09 AM
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Just because it's normal doesn't mean it's right. And yeah manipulation kind of comes hand in hand with abuse and deception, I think dishonesty is kind of inherent in manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:03 AM
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Some red pillers might want to reach the apex of being Chad Thundercock But it's like setting your goal as high as possible, still knowing that even if you don't succeed you'll still get pretty far. Anyone who's read about the PUA Mystery What happened? Fact: being an asshole is more attractive than being a supplicating beta. Yeah but I only hear that now that I'm questioning it. I've read at least a thousand times here that girls like mean guys, which is disingenuous. They may be attracted to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 12:10 AM
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Not looking for perfection, least of all in women. That's how you catch oneitis. Women are interchangeable and ultimately, not as important as other values. I meant 'self-perfection' Too nice gets you placed into the friendzone, from which there's no path to sex. I'm actually unconvinced that you can be too nice. I think TRP (and most people) can't distinguish between kindness and sycophantic behaviour. Most of TRP's advice is focused on the practical, not the meta. And in practical terms, being…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 12:00 AM
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I know I understand, but do you agree that ultimately being mean is detrimental to your success in the pursuit of perfection. Like, I get that it's easier to imitate for people who aren't actually confident, but I find it interesting that being mean is never mentioned as a negative thing by RPers. You say that the ideal man is 'tall, dominant, successful, good-looking etc.' and obviously most guys aren't going to get all that, so I think your agenda is confused. Are you trying to show what the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 11:44 PM
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Yeah yeah but what I'm saying is why doesn't TRP teach them to be like that? Or is meanness just a stepping stone? I don't think that anyone is attracted to meanness itself, quite the opposite in fact, only insecure girls go for people who are mean to them. So if TRP actually sets the goal at perfection, why don't they teach to stop being mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 11:24 PM
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Yeah sure but why not teach them not to do that and to focus on being confident instead? Is it because there are more examples of dickheads getting girls than just plain confident guys so it's easier to imitate?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 11:04 PM
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But why not act like a confident guy who's also nice instead of acting like a confident guy who's mean? That's what I'm trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 10:58 PM
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But do you think it's easier than just being a confident guy, instead of being mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 10:51 PM
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Wait, easier than what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 10:41 PM
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So essentially you're mean because it's easier or because you think it's inherently more effective?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 10:27 PM
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So are RP tactics basically just PUA with more emotional manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 09:12 PM
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Women are attracted to confidence and forwardness. Assholes have these in spades. If you act how you envision an asshole would then you'll be light years ahead of your current, supplicating, beta self. So, act like an asshole and you'll get laid. But being confident and forward isn't exclusive to assholes so why act like an asshole when you could just be confident without all of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:37 PM
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The positive side boils down to attracting the opposite sex. Things like: All of the things you've listed are stuff that people like to do anyway. RPers do it thinking that they'll be happier once they've done enough self-improvement crap so for me this is pretty negative, as it encourages negative cycles of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:33 PM
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then the world reacts That is nurture. If we all were to suddenly start treating women and men exactly the same there would likely be very little difference. Now I get what you're saying, that's not how the world works but so what? It's an extreme point to show that it's largely how women are treated that makes a difference. The point was made earlier in the thread, people of African origin have very similar genetics to white people but were treated completely differently and look what happened …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 10:03 PM
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you are talking about an impossibility. So? If I flap my arms and fly into the sun I'll burn to death, or suffocate if I'm not fast enough to get there. if you are a woman, people will treat you as a woman. Yeah and it makes a difference. I'm not saying it isn't 'natural' that women are treated differently, just that you can't that it's all just genetics that makes it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 06:56 PM
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'Brought up' may have been misleading. Regardless of how their parents brought them up, they've still spent time in society being treated as a woman. I'm not saying genetics don't play a part, genetics do exactly what they do, but they don't tell the full story.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 06:41 PM
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Just saying it doesn't make it so. You have no idea how women would act if they were brought up exactly the same way as men because it's never happened before. I suspect the differences would be much smaller than RPers think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 06:25 PM
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a) yes and confidence is attractive because it determines hypergamic potential and stability for an LTR esp. Partly, sure, but all people prefer to be around confident people. No one wants to be friends with deeply insecure people either. Notice how when a guy is confident and has no status to back it up he gets thought of as an immature asshole. I don't think that pretending to be confident and actually being confident are the same thing. No one is going to call a genuinely confident person imm…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 03:58 PM
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and yet the conventional advice for betas is to 'work on your personality' (AKA beta traits so that we don't have to mould you into a beta box in later life.) It's really no secret that they're sexy. Sure there are girls who prefer skinny androgynous types but most girls like six packs, I think everyone knows it but just prefers to think that they don't. No, success can be define as sexual success, and the halo effect ensures that attractiveness can have a significant impact upon your profession…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 03:02 PM
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Women aged 18-24 are suckers for six packs Yep, six packs are sexy. 25-34 value career driven men This is about the time that people 'ought' to find a partner, settle down etc. so there's a lot of pressure to get a 'good' man. In reality, 'success' has nothing to do with how sexually attractive someone is. Women over 45 often date younger men Basically realising that what they actually want is a good time. EDIT: I think the article's interesting. It shows that 'success', money etc. are largely m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 02:15 PM
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That still sounds like hell on earth to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 01:05 PM
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I'm inclined to believe that they say most of the things that they say (but probably much more awkwardly than they imagine) but I think they massively misinterpret how people are reacting to them. What they see as 'Then I told her she was a stupid woman, she laughed and went back to her friends and they all started laughing because I was so dominant and alpha' was probably her thinking 'what the fuck is wrong with this guy' and either nervously laughing because who the fuck says that shit, and l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 09:58 AM
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Assuming that genetics is the only variable, no? How much difference genetics actually makes, we don't really know. You can't just say it's absolutely genetics that makes women tend to be more like _____ because women experience completely different lives to men. That's not to say that genetics don't have an effect, just that they're another variable factor in how a person will act. Assuming such a thing is incredibly simplistic, and seems to only serve TRP agenda that all women are the same, be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 11:32 PM
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Yeah I missed the point of it at first, although I still don't agree with what it's trying to say entirely. Honestly, the guy says some pretty awful/dumb things about women, that I kind of just assumed he was being serious without reading between the lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 11:16 PM
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Men are inherently evil, they have natural urges to abuse and rape women, they objectify women and need to be taught how to be civilized and not follow their base desires. It doesn't say that, it simply points out that there are men out there who want to abuse and rape women. Yes, hashtagnotallmen and stuff but just because it's not a problem for you, doesn't mean it's not a problem for them. Ideally (although there are some who end up going that way) feminism isn't about men vs women, so when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 09:45 PM
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There's an abundance of joy in the world ¯_(ツ)_/¯ This is why you can be incredibly nice and still be attractive. It's why you can tell someone directly to their face that you like them and it'll make absolutely no difference to their attraction to you. None at all. Women don't want insecurity, that's the turn-off, how nice you are or how much you like her is irrelevant. What they don't want is for them to be a requirement for you to be happy. That doesn't mean everyone will like you but that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:48 PM
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Define 'worthwhile'. So when I say that I'm worthwhile, I mean the present moment that I'm experiencing, because that's all that exists. Simply living is worthwhile, looking at nice flowers is worthwhile, having a conversation with someone is worthwhile. Fucking is fun, partying is fun, all of these things are great for enjoying yourself. I'm probably getting ahead here, but to be content with the present moment doesn't mean you have to sit down and meditate all day. Switched on people sit down …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 04:47 PM
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The premise for that is that in a world of fem-centric white knighting betas, the man who goes against the 'be nice' framework and applies Game or has higher SMV is going to be a nice surprise (on the bio-truth level, registering as a dopamine and adrenalin hit.) Honestly, if you think you can't be nice and still do well with girls you just have shitty game. Conversely, how is women treating men as worthless and disposable (to the point of outright humiliation and vilification as misogynists) un…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 03:41 PM
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Meh, I've seen F to M transsexuals (that might be the wrong term, whatever) say that it's harder to live as a woman than it is as a man. It's incredibly far-fetched to say that one woman's experience playing the role of a man for eighteen months is all that's required to say that 'this group has it worse'. She highlights a lot of the problems that men can face, which seems to be the point of her project, but let's not forget that she specifically went looking for men who were having problems wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 03:20 PM
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Sure I did. How is not treating all women like teenagers who love people being mean to them not harmful to women? But more generally, I think TRP encourages narcissism which is always going to be harmful. You don't need to be RP or BP, why do you have to subscribe to any ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 02:57 PM
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The belief that they aren't worthwhile just as they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 02:51 PM
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Germany did not create Nazism; the rest of the world did. And who created the rest of the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 11:26 AM
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I actually don't particularly have a problem with the concept of PUA, i.e. learning to attract women better because interacting with them, whether romantically or sexually is enjoyable. In principle, there's nothing wrong with that. Of course, the problem is that people end up acting like douchebags a lot of the time because of the advice given, which I'm not really for. My problem with TRP isn't to do with the fact that they're discussing social/sexual dynamics either, I mean I'm here so I obvi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 11:21 AM
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I sneaked it in by saying führer instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:58 PM
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I'm mortified to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:17 PM
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I'm not saying that TRP is necessarily wrong (for the sake of the question asked, I obviously don't agree with everything they say by a long shot), just that a lot of people genuinely think it's wrong and find it disturbing that people have what they consider to be harmful views.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 10:45 PM
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'CMV: The fact that Nazism is right is what makes people so uncomfortable' - Deine loving führer TRP makes people feel uncomfortable because they see a large number of people with harmful views. Of course, if everything TRP said was completely true then this may very well be the case, but most people don't think it is. Honestly, I think one of the main things that stifles discussion in this sub is the common RP belief that anyone who isn't RP is secretly aware of the 'truth' but doesn't want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 10:29 PM
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I'm not sure I am. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAdMbNI8u2M This guy explains it (and everything really) better than I do and gets fairly quickly to the point. I always find this difficult to explain anyway. Also I'm eating my dinner. When you're present, you see that you aren't separate from the world, that your ego cannot exist alone. What's tricky, and where I'm possibly being misleading, is when I say something like 'You do this for your ego, and not simply for you', when I should probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 11:04 PM
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The goal according to who, exactly? My goal, as is the goal of a lot of men I know IRL (who aren't specifically TRP affiliated), is to be stoic, not to appear stoic. Okay, if that's true it's true but as long as you maintain a 'need' to be stoic, you won't be. You will never reap the satisfaction of knowing that you're stoic. Can't have your cake and eat it too. We will have to disagree. The ego will never cause itself to disappear. It's illogical, IMO, to think that an ego, left alone, will cle…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 09:52 PM
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That's not it, I'm saying that people don't understand because they demonstrate that clearly by what they're saying. It has nothing to do with whether I'm right or wrong. If it helps, I'll simply stop saying it, because it's entirely irrelevant in the first place. I say that someone doesn't understand a point when they insist that they do, and show that they don't. For instance, when the other user who's arguing with me says uses the world 'real life' when he means society, it shows that he does…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 09:28 PM
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The goal is to be stoic. Sometimes, if you're being isn't in alignment with your goal, you have to take actions consistent with who you are trying to be, but that's a short-term solution (the "fake it until you make it" thing). You still need to be it if you want to achieve true success. The goal is to appear to be stoic. Real stoicism is about the absence of negative internal thoughts. The feeling of needing to be stoic itself is a negative thought, insecurity, so you cannot actually be stoic u…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 09:17 PM
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Cont... But, even then, it still works. If your "tribe" is a power lifting team, and you don't lift, you'll probably get rejected. Even by secure people...because membership in the tribe requires lifting. Why are you trying to join a weightlifting 'tribe' if you don't lift? Besides, to suggest that society is tribal is false in the first place, at a time it was, sure, but I don't have a 'tribe' and still get the human connection that I need. How does acknowledging insecurity make the goal of sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 09:10 PM
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Is it that hard to believe that someone can wrap their head around your incredibly pointless and arcane explanations, and yet disagree? Talk about ego (in this sense, I mean vanity, obv). Sure, but you're showing time and time again that you don't understand. I'm saying you don't understand because you're showing that you don't, not because I'm me and so I must be right. Again, we're arguing over ego and validation, not whether I personally am insecure. I said, "Normal people don't seek validati…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 09:10 PM
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You said yourself that you didn't care. I get that it's hard for you to believe that someone could understand what you're saying, but either disagree or think it irrelevant. I said that you didn't understand, not that I don't believe anyone could understand. I believe anyone can understand it. I wouldn't be talking about it if I didn't think anyone could understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 07:34 PM
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Meh, you're simply not getting it, and explaining it in any other way is beyond my capabilities. http://www.scribd.com/doc/49037178/The-Wisdom-of-In-Security-by-Alan-Watts#scribd Maybe reading this will help, but if you don't care to understand then there's not much point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 03:09 PM
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Of course it's relevant. This is what the entire argument has been about. I've spent my whole time here explaining why the ego provides no serious value to you, other than a quick rush from validation, that when abused will result in a perceived inability to live without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 01:51 PM
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But it's not exclusive to young people? I thought a significant number of RPers were 30+ divorcees?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 01:18 PM
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You've had to repeat it because it's not really relevant, but you're trying to make it so. It's entirely relevant, you just can't get your head around it. Normal people don't seek validation for its own sake. But their need for acceptance is tied to the need for validation. They seek acceptance because it is necessary. It fulfills the need for validation. Second order need fulfillment meets first order need. If you don't agree, I give up on this one. Ugh. You're just continuously showing that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 01:16 PM
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You don't understand. Of course I 'get' something from being moral, but it isn't my ego that is getting anything from being moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 12:20 PM
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A major reason why men take the advice of "just be nice, just be yourself" is because that's all they're told to do. Aren't you suggesting here that men have no agency?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 12:17 AM
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Ah, so when you chose only to associate with those who provide you value, you still care about them, so it's cool. I get it. I can care about anyone's feelings and have no idea who they are. There's not really any way for me to convince you that this is true, but just assume it is for the sake of argument. I buy ethical clothes, and I buy ethical food. I get no validation from anyone, not even really myself (and the validation from myself wouldn't be worth the cost I assure you haha), for doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 12:01 AM
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A) Human connection implies validation (i.e. people are unlikely to remain connected to someone they don't like, given viable alternatives). But you can't have your cake and eat it too. A human connection may be valuable to someone but as soon as you seek validation for your worth you're pandering to your ego, which isn't necessary. I've been repeating this over and over. I don't really care about "living free from ego." But kudos to you for pulling it off, I guess. Who said I was? I never did. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 11:55 PM
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How? I can still care about a person's well being but see that they provide no value to me. The value provided is human connection, like how food and water have value to me. Let's not trivialise real value.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 11:28 PM
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Again, you're missing the point. You said: "You don't need other people to hold you in high esteem, it's simply untrue." I didn't say you did. I said you need "the acceptance and respect of others." They're different. Normal people need validation from others. I'm not missing the point at all. The only thing you need is human connection which doesn't require the validation of your ego. There's really no other way for me to put it. What's your point? I like being better today than I was yesterday…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 07:00 PM
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I believe you are referring here to "egocentrism." Egos are egos. There is no "big ego" or "small ego." That's like saying "I won't talk to people with big brains." Brains are brains - actual "big brains" are biological anomalies. You're right, I tend not to choose my words very well. Whether it's "necessary" or not is a pointless discussion. Humans, all humans, have egos. It's what gives a human being consciousness. A human can't exist as a human without an ego. Not being self-aware isn't the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 06:48 PM
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TRP (and these kind of tactics) tell you to be stoic right? Because stoicism is attractive, quite right. However, simply by being mindful will you find yourself actually being stoic, instead of working on creating a personality that just has the appearance of being stoic. I don't think you need to do anything other than live presently for you to achieve anything that you really want to do. The thing that people struggle with is the desire to have your cake and eat it to. It's not enough to do al…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 06:32 PM
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If that's the case for you then that's fine, but I don't see it as the main motivation for most people. EDIT: And I also don't see why you would need TRP to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 06:07 PM
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If you want to connect with them, you do. No one seeks connection with people who they view as low value. It depends what you consider valuable. For me, connection is valuable so I have no interest in talking to people with big egos, because they provide no value for me. Having an ego is what makes us human - it is literally our baseline consciousness. That doesn't mean it's necessary. It is, for most people, the "self" that they identify with. Yeah but again... doesn't mean it's necessary. Are …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 06:04 PM
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It's also not what I said. No it isn't, I'm interpreting what you're saying. RPers crave the validation from people thinking that they're 'alpha' because they're fundamentally insecure with the idea of living with themselves. Yeah...what I was responding to was your assertion that I only care about others because they validate me. Which was how you decided to interpret my comment that normal people need validation from others. FOCUS. Which is what I understood from you when you said that anyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 05:53 PM
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We're a tribal species, and acceptance in the tribe is the most basic form of validation. It's instinct. Living "mindfully" doesn't eliminate the innate need for the acceptance and respect of others. Human beings need connection with others. That is the only true need. You don't need other people to hold you in high esteem, it's simply untrue. This is, in fact, exactly what I meant. You are a shrewd observer of the human mind. Or you don't really know what you mean when you talk about 'validatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 04:10 PM
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You're absolutely wrong, there is no need for validation, it's only the ego that craves validation. If you live mindfully there's no need for validation. Those that feel perfectly worthwhile without external validation are generally referred to as "assholes", "narcissists", and "sociopaths". So the only reason you care about other people is because you get validation for it? That is narcissistic behaviour. It's not a shaming attempt, I have insecurities, most people do, but what I'm addressing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 03:27 PM
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http://www.returnofkings.com/2099/the-9-ugliest-american-feminists Go easy on the hyperbole, I'm sure Roosh's shirt is fine. I am actually a man and I don't really hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 01:40 PM
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I'm okay with it because Roosh is guilty of repeatedly humiliating individuals in public himself, so this is really just a case of him getting his comeuppance. I've actually said like a million times already that I thoroughly enjoy watching anyone get what they deserve, man or woman. So uh, wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 01:22 PM
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Eh? What makes you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 01:13 PM
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I think the humiliation is okay, so pouring a drink over him I think is fine. As long as he is dishing out humiliation he deserves to feel what it's like. Frankly, the rest of the video isn't really clear enough for me to comment. I can't condone physical violence but I can't see whether he was really being threatened physically. I can see him trying to be 'alpha' by putting his fingers up and fake-charging them, his posturing is hilarious. But you know, I don't claim to be an especially moral p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 11:41 AM
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It's weird that you're suggesting that I'm a 'mangina' when you're the one crying over a wet shirt. Oh boo hoo, his pour wet shirt :( That's assault! THHATS fUCKING AGGRAVATED ASSAULT uNDER THE LAW. Thatperson got his shirt wet!!!QQW
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 12:24 AM
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Thinking "the idea that rape is acceptable in private circumstances is still held by a significant number of people" is in any way true is something that can only exist in the head of a completely delusional SJW. Did you know that Bob Marley supposedly raped his wife? She didn't want to have sex and he held her down and told her that she should because she was his wife. These attitudes do exist, I know it's hard to believe because it's a different culture to what you've probably experienced but …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 12:22 AM
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That is some SJW feminist level delusional bullshit. People that hold that kind of opinion are a rounding error at best. Over-exaggerated, probably, but calling it 'delusional bullshit' is ignoring what is actually a serious issue. People trying to sell their kids as food is not a serious problem. People justifying rape and trying to convince themselves that 'she wanted it' is a serious problem. I guess you can just believe that all of these people are lying, but that seems like a cop-out. Somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 11:19 PM
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The two aren't the same though. The context that I, and most people who have read a few of his articles and watched a few of his videos, have is that Roosh is a narcissistic misogynist. It's entirely reasonable to see his rape article as an extension of this. The idea that rape is acceptable in private circumstances is still held by a significant number of people. 'A Modest Proposal' is outrageous because no one would seriously entertain the thought that children could be sold as food. 'A Modest…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 10:53 PM
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I'm not arguing whether Roosh is serious or not, I'm arguing whether it's reasonable to see what he says as being serious or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 10:20 PM
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Just messing with you. No hard feelings? Naturally I was terribly embarrassed for about ten seconds, but no my feelings don't get hurt on this sub. I actually don't particularly struggle with separating what's serious with what isn't in general, I'm just drained. I don't think he is advocating for raping people but simply likes to stir the pot as this entire comment chain proves. The thing is, his actual views are in line with that of a misogynist with a serious case of narcissism. https://www.y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 09:45 PM
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Basically if something is offensive, it needs to be funny. If you pop an offensive joke and it's not funny you're just being racist/sexist etc. It's a risk and it always makes me laugh when it goes wrong and the person who said it was like 'What!? it was just a joke'. It's almost as if a joke being funny excuses the offence that it causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 09:32 PM
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Huh, fair enough, yeah I was too quick on that one. My point stands anyway, despite my little trip up. I do still insist on hearing what you have to say to my arguments though, because I may be retarded, but I'm not wrong ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 09:20 PM
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I was being facetious. See, you're not really that good at distinguishing between what's serious and what isn't either. I wasn't even trying to set you up either, amazing. In all serious though, I'd be more interested in hearing a response to what I've said than a lecture on my own condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 08:57 PM
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I don't have a problem with understanding satire, when it's recognisable, but whatever if you insist on just telling me I'm retarded over and over again this isn't going to go anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 08:45 PM
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People who regularly browse stormfront make up a small proportion of the general population. Racist posts on stormfront is preaching to the choir. It mostly effects people who go to that website. You don't Racist speech in a public park or street corner is not the same as stormfront. I have never been to stormfront and I will never accidentally wind up there or browse a racist article. I do however walk the streets, go to parks, and could overhear racist speech. And yet hundreds of thousands of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 08:41 PM
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Not really. Roosh espouses a great number of backwards ideas that are legitimately harmful to women. It's bad satire, because if you read the article you'll find that he does hold a lot of the views expressed therein. It's not unreasonable for anyone to take the logical conclusion that he wants to legalise rape. You could better describe it as a thought-experiment but realistically the only people who would see it as such are people who read his articles extensively. I think anyone else can be e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 08:34 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 08:26 PM
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People are offended Humiliation isn't the same as offence, look up the difference. You're saying there is no difference between racists publishing an article on stormfront and racists going out in public and talking to people? Motivation = spread racist ideas effect = diffusion of racist ideas There's a difference in the way it's done but the motivation and effect is the same. I imagine more people actually see this stuff and digest it when it's online given the far larger audience. RP has how m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 08:14 PM
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It's difficult to tell when something is satire when it comes from someone who could well be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 08:09 PM
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I'm okay with him having had beer thrown on his face. I'm not okay with physical violence, but it's difficult for me to really see how threatened he actually was by that. To clarify, I would greatly enjoy seeing Roosh punched in the face, but I wouldn't condone it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:56 PM
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I never said that. Roosh writes. Does he go out to feminist rallies and yell at women? Does he even speak about his beliefs in public?He writes and posts videos. Roosh's material is still harmful and humiliating to certain people. The medium isn't particularly relevant, only the motivation and effect. And yeah, he appeared on TV once to talk about his views but threw a hissy fit online when it turned out that they were going to be mean about him. Poor fella :( His material is public, the interne…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:50 PM
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No, it's not okay, as I've said a number of times already.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:36 PM
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Dude, Roosh wants to make rape on private propety legal. I find it funny that feminists whom whine about the tiny smudge of "violence against women" and nonsense like "rape apology" are suddenly justifying throwing drinks at peoples faces and being violently interrogated over simply disagreeing with others. Yeah, having beer thrown in your face is not the same as being raped. Believe it or not, saying mean things online aren't the root of all serious problems. And neither is having beer thrown i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:32 PM
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I definitely don't, given that I'm neither a feminist, nor a woman. If his biggest "humiliation" was words on an internet forum, then this is FARRR more severe and nowhere near warranted. I think it's fair to say that his targets would feel legitimately humiliated by some of the things that he has said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:26 PM
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A feminist being punched in the face might be humbling, but that doesn't mean it's right or okay to do. Rape isn't the same thing. It's worrying how lightly RPers seem to take rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:24 PM
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Your response and /u/SkinnySweaty are an example of this. We've already clarified that what I enjoy seeing/and what I think is deserved might not be right. Has Roosh ever poured a drink on a girl's face No, but he has humiliated many girls in the past. Unless you think that the girl was trying to drown him you don't really have a point here. It doesn't matter if the action isn't the same, when the motivation and effect is. gotten a group of friends, and started to chase her down the streets? No,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:22 PM
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Yes, you are millions of years more evolved than any of us here. I'm smarter than you, but despite the fairly low level of intelligence in this sub, I still wouldn't lump you in with everyone else. lol typical blue pill/white knight/girl. None of the above, sorry. the person who is contesting your new age bulshit is wrong, bothersome, and below your notice. All of the above You are a 21 year old kid. That must sting for you. And If I was you I'd be more worried with making sure your extremely fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:06 PM
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I would be laughing, because being punched is not the end of the world, and it can be quite humbling in the right circumstances. Whether I think it's okay to punch someone in this situation is a different question, to which the answer is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:02 PM
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How am I supposed to take you seriously when you think that a black eye is the same thing as a wet shirt? Roosh himself has no care for anyone else's right to live unmolested and not be humiliated. He's failed to show respect for anyone but his own feelings, so probably doesn't deserve to have his feelings considered. and I have the right to not have a drink thrown on me Yes you do, but rights exist to be practical, not as inalienable bastions of morality. I offended your fee fees with my presen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 06:59 PM
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The guy was threatened with physical harm by a mob of angry people, which included guys who looked much bigger than him and could do him great harm if he didn't leave the situation. The woman was yelling out that Roosh wants to rape someone's sister to incite anger and violence. Don't pretend that he would not have been seriously harmed if he stayed there. And I don't think that behaviour is okay, although knowing that he didn't get hurt, I still do find the video funny. I would be okay with any…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 06:45 PM
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Fuck her right in the pussy is hilarious, IMO. It's just boys being dumb for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 06:41 PM
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Yeah in the 'eyes of the law' but as we can clearly see it's just a guy getting wet and being humiliated. So we can continue with the hyperbole and pretend this is on the same level as someone getting physically harmed or we can be real. I'd be fine with that, I chuckle whenever I see anyone get what they probably deserved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 06:40 PM
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There's no point arguing with you because you couldn't even begin to understand what I'm saying. I know that because all your posts are saying is 'please clarify'. You didn't present a counter-argument and are now having a go at me for not responding with a counter-argument to what wasn't actually an argument in the first place. Way to go. The only thing you're right about is that I do find you bothersome, and would like you to stop bothering me until you find something worthwhile to contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 06:29 PM
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I think a lot of RPers in this thread are really putting emphasis on 'physical assault'. They threw a drink over his head to humiliate him, not to cause him any physical pain or serious threat. RPers whining and claiming that liberals think it's okay to cause bodily harm to another person because they don't like them or disagree with them are being ridiculous. It's just hyperbole. I'm cool with it. This guy is a rape apologist who routinely humiliates people he disagrees with all the time. They'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 06:20 PM
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Nope, wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 05:43 PM
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I don't know man, have you read some of your posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 11:44 AM
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Don't waste your time with people who do that then? (and don't waste my time with rubbish as well) Don't project your insecurities onto everyone else. Just because you're so insecure that you feel you have to play the game doesn't mean that everyone else is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 11:39 AM
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What is wrong with Stoicism? Nothing, but there is a problem with putting up a guise of stoicism to nurture your ego. I pretty much admitted I was projecting, question is what are you doing? Having a discussion. Look you're trying to teach Zen to someone who has been familiar with meditation for years. Not very good at it, but I don't need someone to explain the concept of mindfulness to me. Ya do. It won't haunt me for the rest of my life if you continue to torture yourself with RP ideas and yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 11:37 AM
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Of course. But you can change your place in reality, through changing your behaviour. We can always control ourselves, to a degree. Internal locus of control The only reality there is the present. What you're calling 'reality' is actually 'society'. You can't change your place in reality because the only place in reality is the here and the now. No that's a straw man you just constructed based off my later points about monks and nuns, which you weren't sure of the workings for It is the impressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 01:12 AM
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I'm aware of that, already said I can't meditate while arguing with someone online. Meditation does at first require a technique or method. It's good to explain to someone, for example, about how to visualise letting their thought pass without judgment. I've always used the 'watch the trains/cars drive past you' analogy. Less intelligent people may need some understanding of how to pre are for it, too. (So for example, ideally a quiet room) It might take a method to show someone that it requires…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 12:35 AM
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I am actively choosing to change my reality through the use of willpower i.e. desire. I am sending signals to my neurones that they should rev themselves up in the next micro-second to engage in X behaviour. Whether I sufficiently change my reality can never fully be determined. It is much easier to understand this process when alone, egos clash when with others. A lot of people like to suggest that you're a product of an environment. It's not really right to say that, we are the environment. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 12:26 AM
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I'm not high, I haven't smoked weed (not by choice to be fair lol) for months. I'm not really sure what you mean by transcendence. This isn't me being some kind of spiritual guy or whatever, I'm just trying to help explain to you some eastern philosophy, for your benefit and because I like thinking about it. Aye so I should listen to my heart rather than my ego. There's nothing you should do, because it's not a process... I have tried staying in the moment Which you can't do, because you're not …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 12:05 AM
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yes I do No, you think you're doing that. In reality, you are just a person thinking that he is choosing who he is. I thought you said I am only myself in the present moment. I could be a much more improved version of self but that would require identifying with the fact that my ego is flawed, I engage frequently in the Dunning-Kruger effect, I must stop deluding myself that my reality is more powerful than the world around me, rise up and mould myself into whichever form of self-actualised Me I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 11:49 PM
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This is kind of pointless, it's like we're speaking different languages. Hopefully you will understand what I've written after you've read the essay, although I strongly urge you to listen to several of his other lectures. You're not thinking about this the right the way, which is understandable, it's difficult to get your head around. Practising and studying zen doesn't mean you have to become a hermit and 'stagnate'. In fact, an out of control ego will only hinder you. If you're present you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 11:39 PM
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He's closer to the right lines but I don't think it comes down to 'picking' things that you're interested in, seeing time as a 'resource' and so on. It's still not authentic living. The thing is, some of what they say would, I believe, be a more authentic me. Nope, you don't get to pick and choose who you are, you are only you in the present moment. It's difficult to get your head around but yeah, that's the crux of it. This is not a way to live life. No it isn't. Why do you keep living that way…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 10:50 PM
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Then you're ignoring everything I've already said (and haven't finished reading that v. important essay). Remember, women want two things: sexual attraction and an emotional partner. So the advice given is good enough for an emotional partner. So what about being more sexually attractive? Well simply by living you'll do the things that make you more appealing. I don't think it's wrong to learn how to flirt etc. but that clearly isn't your problem. These are just spices, whereas you're missing ke…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 10:43 PM
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I'll continue. I don't think what you need is better social skills. Social skills are nice but they're more of a cherry on top than anything else, like someone being especially funny, or especially kind and so on. As long as you have a decent understanding of social rules and etiquette you're fine. What people want is an authentic connection with other people. When you're anxious and deeply concerned about trying to present an alternate image of yourself there's no way for anyone to build a conn…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 10:26 PM
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That's not a solid post, it's appalling advice. I'm not saying that it's bad to have interesting hobbies, interests, experiences yadayada. I'm saying it's bad to externalise yourself from your own experience. Do that stuff because you want to, not for 'self-improvement'. RPers are more concerned with building the image of a fulfilled person than actually being a fulfilled, happy person. http://www.scribd.com/doc/49037178/The-Wisdom-of-In-Security-by-Alan-Watts#scribd Read this, it gives a good e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 10:17 PM
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Yeah for real man, you're going at this completely the wrong way. You can just be a person in society. Take care of your body, get some social contact (even if it's just with your dog) and do some soul-searching. Maybe listen to Alan Watts lectures on youtube while you lie down in bed. Smoke some weed and stay off TRP/PPD probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 09:18 PM
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Yo I really have no interest talking to a RP parrot. You sound like a guy whose ego is way out of control. It's normal, I get it. It's a 'if you can't join 'em, beat 'em' mentality gone out of control. Like I guess you just see everything the way it really is huh? But like, does that help? Are you sure you're not just really lonely and struggle to connect with people? Sure sounds like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 07:37 PM
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Yes it does. Women want alpha males. Alpha males are stoic. Feminism encourages men to be less stoic and more emotional. Men tried that, it felt good for betas for a while. Then women started to hate men being whiney pussies. Men left their beta box husbands and went to fuck stoic Chad again. Absurd over-simplification, first of all, just assuming that RP ideas without a trace of nuance are correct. Feminism encourages men to be more emotionally open and women do want that from men. What they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 06:27 PM
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The driving engine for capitalism is the desire for domination, that's all it is. I don't see what male disposability has to do with it. You're totally deluded if you think that women are the cause of any of these problems. the majority of women have grown to view men as weak, and in turn themselves as weak, and strive to be 'more like men'. That is, domineering, aggressive, hyper-sexual, apathetic etc. What you said here doesn't even make any sense. I wonder whether the media deliberately explo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 05:54 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fidW8R6I5Eg I pretty much just said what Terence Mckenna was saying decades ago. He talks a good amount about the importance of femininity in some of his lectures.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 02:11 PM
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The male obsession with dominance over everyone and everything else is essentially what is driving the Earth towards catastrophe, and is the reason for almost all of the suffering that exists in the world today. The female contribution to society is subtle, but just as important. I'm not talking about men and women here, I'm talking about masculinity and femininity, both of which rely on each other. Our society is obsessed with domination and power. Sexist loser RPers and stupid feminists are pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 01:38 PM
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Drink some water.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 12:24 PM
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They're not nice, but neither is anyone else when it comes to sex and relationships. They're just bad at getting it, so they get hate under the guise of hating them for feeling 'entitled' to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 12:11 AM
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It's not about getting RPers to play nice, it's about getting them to stop playing such a dumb game and actually do something interesting. They can be as nasty as they want as long as their nastiness actually comes with an original or interesting point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 08:13 PM
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Ooh I've got this, I have aspergers syndrome/HFA (whichever you want to call it). I don't identify with either pill particularly. I agree with some of the basic things that TRP says regarding the importance of sexual value but I find that they have no understanding of nuance so I don't agree with them a lot of the time. Also, I don't hate women or think that they totally suck as a rule, so I guess that's my stance. I don't go on TRP subreddit. I think you're entirely wrong with your suggestion t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 01:52 PM
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Any advice for a young buck about to enter the rap game?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 01:30 PM
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Yeah but I can't imagine those 300+ guys are getting laid very often in the first place...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 01:20 PM
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This 100%! Anyone who asks for help at school is probably going to get it. Teachers mostly tend to go into teaching because they like the subject they teach and want to help people learn. Generally, teachers will gladly go out of their way to help someone who wants to learn. But there are always going to be a substantial number of boys who unsurprisingly aren't happy to be kept cooped up indoors all day being forced to learn shit that doesn't interest them. I think boys are generally more likely…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 01:14 PM
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Yeah duh, sex feels nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 09:14 PM
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No the desire for validation is driven by insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 08:36 PM
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Yeah that's not really true. It depends on what you mean by submissive. A total, utter wimp who can't even talk to girls or just a shy guy with not much confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 07:16 PM
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It's the most important value for an insecure RPer to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 07:15 PM
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I'm not 'natty alpha'. I'm an attractive guy, don't get me wrong, but I don't have hot girls going crazy for me. You don't have to dominate anyone else to show confidence in yourself. RPers had no success with women before because they were constantly striving for their validation. They still are, they're just getting a bit better at getting the validation by creating a facade. What is more attractive is just understanding what you are and not trying to bullshit people into liking you more. Of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 06:23 PM
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Women prioritise different things. Some will value 'alpha' traits more than looks. Some simply won't look past you not being very good looking. Buuut, putting on a pretense isn't a way of getting around being fuck ugly. You actually have to have serious value. Since RPers love talking in evolutionary terms, here it is. No woman is going to sacrifice the good looks of her children just because some guy was cocky around her, or lifted weights. Good looking guys only lose out when they're overly sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 04:12 PM
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If you're a total drag then yeah, no shit, what a revelation. If there's just a good-looking but average guy, maybe a bit shy whatever, then being 'alpha' if you're ugly won't make much difference. Girls want to fuck good looking guys, not some troll-looking guy who gets his personality from an internet forum. I don't really think any RP guys actually are very 'alpha' for the reasons I outlined above.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 03:19 PM
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If you aren't a weedy little loser then being a good looking guy goes a very long way. I don't have much interest in models, and there's a difference between being a doormat and not being an arse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 03:10 PM
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I think they're definitely exaggerated or changed slightly. Especially with the whole 'spinning plates' bullshit. They try to give the impression that they have several hot girls who want the RPer so badly that they're willing to put up with other girls who want the same. I mostly just see a few pretty average-looking casual hook up partners who don't actually place much value on the RPer except for casual hooking up. Naturally, pretty much anyone on TRP couldn't attract any girl before having t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 02:43 PM
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If your main concern in life is to put your todger in a slimy wet hole over and over again then in my opinion you've lost out on life, making you a loser. RPers don't 'get it', and it's always kind of sad (but mostly funny) whenever I see someone post their 'eureka!' moment and now suddenly get it. As long as you guys keep trying and trying to get it, you'll never get it. You're all afraid to have problems and not 'maintain frame' or whatever because you're fundamentally insecure in ways that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 06:09 PM
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You're wrong about men who have problems and struggle with what to do with them being 'pussies'. RPers are a bunch of gormless twerps because they try so hard to 'get it', which is itself an indicator that they don't get it. For all this chat about how women ought to know their place, RPers still have no clue what their place is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 05:57 PM
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People can change but most people don't have it within them or don't have the right environment for any kind of serious change. If you're a RPer and still rely on a group of whiny, bitter boyfriends to validate your opinions you're a loser. I just don't think most of these guys would ever get past that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 05:46 PM
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Yeah, pretty much being drawn to TRP in the first place means you're a 'beta' guy by nature and that doesn't really change, no matter how much you lift. Basically RP guys are just a bunch of pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 04:31 PM
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You knowing which major pop stars have the most likes on facebook shows you know a lot about music huh? I guess that pretty much sums you up lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 11:38 AM
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In your opinion, meanwhile his music is more successful and loved by more people than yours will ever be. Oh no! My feelings! Then why not pick them, they are more successful by your standard? I don't know, does it matter? I doubt they were calculating how much fame and money they would make from it, they just saw a popular guy and rolled with it. Do they even get to just 'pick' people to work with anyway? Lets see, I knew which musicians had the most facebook likes, you didn't So? Who cares? I …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 11:27 PM
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You mean I haven't done the mental gymnastics required to explain how someone can be successful at something they are bad at? He's successful at generating fame and selling records (credit to his team behind him) but he isn't successful at making good music. I didn't put forth the imagination required to blame all of that on some sort of conspiracy by record companies to force people to listen to bad music? It's not really a conspiracy, the overwhelming majority of radio play comes from music fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 10:54 PM
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he can't be good See I have to keep repeating myself. Just because a musician is successful doesn't mean they can't be good. This is you assuming I'm on your level. I don't make stupid judgements like that. If I see a musician that is successful, I think "he's probably pretty good" Ah ok, so you haven't actually put any thought into it, ok. There are plenty of other musicians who are just as popular and just as successful I did a little check on facebook, and I couldn't find anyone with more lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 10:08 PM
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Here's your problem (ok well no, you have an overarching problem but we've already addressed that). You never stop to think about different possibilities. You see a guy gaining success from music? He must be a good musician. You see a guy wanting to work with someone else? He must have respect for that person's abilities. Just take a moment before replying (because as it stands you might as well just be smashing your face into the keyboard with the nonsense you put out) and think about why they …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 08:14 PM
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You don't know me, only a fool would say that. Maybe you are smart but just decide to be an idiot online then. Justin Bieber reached out to them. So much for knowing what you're talking about right? And they accepted... See, this sort of stuff is why I think you're stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 07:53 PM
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I'm probably not as smart as I think I am, but I'm still smarter than you. Ha, I'd work with Justin Bieber if I were given the opportunity and I assure you it has nothing to do with my respect for his musical talent. I'm sure you're smart enough (well actually I'm not) to think of a reason why they might want to work with one of the most popular people in entertainment at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 07:16 PM
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No, they produce music. "Mindless entertainment" is you placing your own subjective judgement on it because it doesn't fit your tastes. But they're not interested in making good music, it doesn't concern them. Their focus is money. Justin Bieber without his image and marketing team is nothing. Well I have a closet full of records too. I used to DJ for clubs and a small radio station, I have a lot of music knowledge across every genre of music, from disco to country. I'm unconvinced, given what y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 06:51 PM
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They're the MUSIC industry, they are making MUSIC, surely you can't be doing mental gymnastics enough to suggest that the music is completely irrelevant. They produce mindless entertainment in the form of music to make money. I could post my room full of synthesizers and recording equipment if you want. Currently it contains an Alesis Andromeda, a Moog Voyager, Roland JP8080, x0xb0x, SEM, bunch of other stuff, as well as a Tascam FW-1884, Yamaha HS-80's, a US Strat, fretless bass, DJ equipment a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 06:08 PM
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You said it was more accessible and marketable, I've shown you examples we both consider good music that are accessible and marketable. So you haven't answered why they prefer to use bad music over good. But why would they need to make good music if the only thing that matters is its accessibility. You immediately assume music must be good if people like it. Whether the music is good or bad is irrelevant, in this case what works to make money using Bieber is shitty music. They didn't decide to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 05:09 PM
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OK, then why bad music? I've already answered that. Believe me, the only reason you don't understand what I'm saying is because you're an idiot. I've just pointed out that his voice is somewhat good Millions of somewhat good singers out there in the world. I've placed no judgement on how much of it has come from him. No, but you claimed he was talented. But I recognize that his songs are good, do you? You have a shitty ear and no idea what you're talking about though. It's like if you took a twi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 04:41 PM
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Wrong song I think...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 04:35 PM
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I'm pointing out there is no reason for these companies to push bad music if they could just as well push good music. They're not pushing music! They're pushing a fantasy! An image! The music is complementary to the greater product. This is what you just can't seem to get your head around. Well he's credited as a writer It doesn't take a lot to be credited as a writer. All he has to do is write banal lyrics and simple melodies/chords. The real work is done by the producers. so I'll point out tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 03:36 PM
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But it's not an either-or thing. No, but that's not what we're arguing. You're claiming that he has to be talented because he's successful. I'm saying that his success has nothing to do with whether he's talented or not. So I'm glad that now we're on the same page. It's extremely well produced. It has catchy well written melodies and lyrics. Take this song. It is well produced, very inventive with a mix of RnB and house with catchy dancible melodies and complementary lyrics. Literally none of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:33 PM
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Pop is weird. My point to the other poster is that the music that's written essentially follows the manufactured image that they've created for a person. So yeah, mostly it's going to be shitty but I still find myself listening to Single Ladies by Beyonce just because of how hilarious it is. Not in a bad way, it's funny because of how ballsy it was to do it. The people who wrote that song were fucking around with poly-tonality, essentially putting the song in E major and E minor at the same time…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:24 PM
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The major labels didn't have the same strangle over the media that they do now. JB is different in that he's entirely manufactured (and his music is shittier). Those musicians had a large female fan base but could still make decent quality music. The late 00s were when totally commercialised pop music essentially strangled everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:08 PM
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Yes, but you still haven't answered the question, why wouldn't they get someone marketable WITH talent? Why would they choose to pay for and market bad music when good music would cost the same and offer greater returns? The simpler answer is, it is good music, you just have different tastes. Because marketability > talent I'm sick of having to repeat that over and over again because you're too thick to get it. The quality of the music is not relevant, that's why it doesn't matter whether it's s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:01 PM
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Why is that a quality of bad music? I have trouble thinking of music more accessible than the Beatles or Michael Jackson, yet both of those were extremely good. It's not a quality of bad music, it's just that accessible music is generally of lower quality. The Beatles and Michael Jackson were making incredible music before people even realised that music didn't need to be good to make money. I'm sure Michael Jackson would be successful today, he was an exceptional musician make no mistake, and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 01:28 PM
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Because bad music is more accessible. It's why kids like all sorts of shitty types of food for example. It's about accessibility for children. It has nothing to do with my taste lol. I like listening to loads of shitty music, and I recognise it as such. Why are you making it into some kind of conspiracy theory? Record companies recognise what sells and push it onto people. They do have a grip on what commercial radio stations play and since most people don't go beyond what's on the radio and wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 12:06 PM
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For three months, I'd just force him to keep rewatching the video... over and over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 12:29 AM
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They want to put out good music, they have no reason to put out bad music, it's much more likely that it just doesn't fit your tastes nor was it meant for you. They want to make money, that's it. Jesus, you really have no clue do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:41 PM
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That's exactly what it is. No it's not, look up the definition. Then if Justin Beiber doesn't have any musical ability as you say, why wouldn't they get a blank slate who did? The conspiracy doesn't make sense. He does, but it's not even remotely exceptional or noteworthy. He had a following of little girls on youtube. Entertainment people see that he makes little girls go crazy and see opportunity. I find it hilarious that you think it's some kind of tinfoil conspiracy. This is how the music in…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 09:48 PM
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Being able to fill a niche isn't the same as having talent. I'm not here to tell you what Justin Bieber offers, you are because you're the one claiming he has value. All you need is a relatively blank slate who's willing to do what he's told and be molded. Justin Bieber was already believable, he already had a following on youtube. The entertainment industry just picked up on it and developed him. He wasn't the product before. The product is what the marketing and writing/production teams have d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 08:54 PM
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He was cute and he had a good voice, and apparently had a small following on youtube IIRC. He was marketable. But there's nothing special about his looks, and there's nothing special about his musical skill. He's good looking, and he can sing and play some other instruments decently. So fucking what? I know better looking guys who are better musicians. He didn't need to be special, just good enough to be marketed to impressionable little girls. They bring in the writers, the producers etc. to ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 08:21 PM
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Yeah there's bad music that sells a lot Yeah that's what I'm saying. But my point was just that he isn't being valued for what he's offering society. He's being valued because he represents a carefully constructed fantasy that was created to make certain people rich. He himself does nothing. I'm sure he's credited for 'co-writing' a lot of songs but without his huge team behind him and the people who decided that he would become famous he's worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 08:08 PM
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No you can't, there are plenty of famous people on earth with actual talent and skill who do offer society something. Basic laws of the universe, the fuck is this babble.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:34 PM
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Music isn't as subjective as people tend to claim. Besides, he has a whole team writing his stuff, producing it etc. He's mediocre as fuck in every way possible. He isn't loved because he makes good music, or because he's particularly attractive. Little girls love him because the entertainment industry decided that they would. They get him to stand on stage and play out a fantasy for them. Most people don't have the knowledge to discern the difference between good and bad music, least of all lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:15 PM
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He offers society amazing music What the fuck man, no. He offers little girls a fantasy, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 05:57 PM
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For me it's because I just masturbate too much lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 05:51 PM
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I think so. The people I know have been more likely to do that but they're generally the less attractive, fuck it I'll say it, 'beta' types. A lot of the time people will go out, two people will end up having sex, and if they like each other they'll hang around. Dating becomes more common as people get a bit older though and are working a lot, but it's not as prevalent as it is over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:55 PM
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1 and 2, I don't like the idea of dating so it's not something I really do, and I'm from the UK anyway and the concept of dating is a lot less reinforced here. There's a lot of just getting drunk and ending up with someone. I prefer to hang out with someone and build up tension naturally. For me asking someone out on a date is akin to telling someone that you like them, or asking to kiss someone. It's creating expectations for something, instead of just letting it build. 3, Pay for your own shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 07:42 PM
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but not to the point of living like Mother Teresa Give anyone the right conditions and upbringing and they will be able to. You're basically just saying 'I can't do it, so no one can'.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 11:20 AM
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Pretty much. No woman is going to complain about the most attractive man in the world talking to her at the shop or wherever really. Having to reject someone, or talk to someone that doesn't interest you isn't enjoyable for anyone. If you're less attractive you can't just be going up to girls and hitting on them if you don't want them to get pissed off. Unfortunately some people have decided that this is basically harassment and therefore oppression, which is obviously pretty nutty. A lot of it …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:37 PM
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I don't want to belittle your experience, but even as a shorter, smaller guy there's a good chance you could still very easily defend yourself against a girl in most cases. There are times when a woman will be able to overpower you but those cases are very rare, once boys hit puberty their strength spikes pretty damn hard. Strength is definitely not all to do with size. And like I said, I'm not going to say it would never happen, but not even remotely close to as often as it happens to young gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 11:43 AM
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It's not just my experience. Comparing the two is ridiculous, and realistically most fourteen year old boys (especially the ones who could be considered attractive) aren't going to feel physically threatened by a woman. Very few older women are going up to young guys and creeping them out in the way that older guys are creeping on young girls. Sure, some may talk dirty about some buff dude from a film and may flirt a bit but an older woman actively trying to make a move on a young guy is rare as…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 01:22 AM
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Oh lord, so not true. The 50 year-old women are usually more obscene than younger women in their appraisals of young men. There's noooooo comparison to be made here. The amount of creepiness that young girls get from older men is waaaaay higher than what young guys get. Sure, old chicks may occasionally flirt with a teenager just for fun but guys aren't even remotely threatened by that and it doesn't happen nearly as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 11:00 PM
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Damn! John Goodman's fucking his daughter? TIL.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 11:10 AM
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Nothing like /r/PurplePillDebate when you're loaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 11:49 PM
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Number 4 works for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 11:44 PM
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I'm a dude as well. I think there can be different definitions of respect, after all there are many words that, although similar, do carry different meanings. Why would you stubbornly choose just one definition, I don't know, that seems silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 11:36 PM
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I'm on a relatively low dose of MDMA hoping this will go down well haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 11:35 PM
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The recognition that they're people with real, strong emotions and that their well-being should be considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 11:29 PM
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Hip hop is just a genre of music, it's not inherently misogynistic. Example 1 Example 2
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 06:39 PM
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People in their twenties are adults (apparently). I don't know, maybe I just find it hard to relate to all these people who are being manipulated so easily because I'm not retarded. Being forty and having more life experience doesn't give you magical manipulation powers. This is what I mean about infantalisation. People in their twenties having to be protected by this sort of thing like they're a fucking child.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:55 PM
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Society is crazy infantalised if now we have to protect people in their 20s from sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:22 PM
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Yeah that's the problem for me. RPers go on and on about how there aren't enough feminine women in the world but have no respect for women or femininity, so they treat them like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:40 AM
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There's a difference between not being a 'doormat' and being hyper-aggressive. You can still be feminine and stand up for yourself. Feminine is nice, there isn't enough femininity in the western world in my opinion. It's become dog eat dog, so aggressive and uncaring. Femininity is not the same as being a wimp though. I have nothing against people trying to get out there and do their own thing, it's their choice and I would never tell anyone what they should or shouldn't do with their own life. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 08:13 PM
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It depends how you make your money. If you work all your life to make a shitload of money you're not experiencing freedom either. Sure, you can retire at forty or fifty but your youth is already behind you. But yeah if you're working a shitty minimum wage job just to get by you're going to be worse off generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 07:58 PM
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Alan Watts is a tight motherfucker. Dig him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 09:15 PM
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RP is for pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 09:14 PM
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What sub do you think you're on right now? Clue's in the fucking name.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 06:04 PM
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His 'opponent' in this analogy is his inability to attract women, not individual people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:55 PM
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I think we are looking at this "guide" in different ways. I'm imagining this as a book that someone reads and immediately starts speaking like the book tells them to. "if the woman says this, you say this". Such a book doesn't exist because it would be enormous and impossible to memorise. It wouldn't be useful at all. what I'm starting to understand is that you see it as a self-help book that encourages gradual improvement in confidence and social skills. Is that correct? Not necessarily, althou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:33 PM
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I'm not looking at this guide as the source of a new personality. I'm looking at it as a script to pretend to have a different personality. If they changed on the inside and outside, I wouldn't have a problem. But that's not what a guide is... to answer your question, I got my personality over a time of trial, error, self reflection, and the input of those I trust. Is that better than a book? Not necessarily, but at least I know I'm being genuine. I could never be sure with someone that was able…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:16 PM
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And if unicorns existed I would ride one into the sunset. I don't get what you're trying to say. Yes, if I found out that I was dating a sociopath who was pretending to be someone else I'd be pissed too. This isn't what PUA is about though and that's what this is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 05:09 PM
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1, I'm not a PUA/RPer. 2, I don't know what you're even talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:24 PM
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So people are complaining about something that never really happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 02:43 PM
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That just doesn't really seem to ever happen though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 01:51 PM
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If someone is literally basing everything he does and says on something some random dude has written on the internet, then he's clearly not basing it on himself, his partner or their relationship. But that very rarely happens, and isn't even what PUA advises. PUA is not that in depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 12:37 PM
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Can I ask where your personality came from? So who you are, this seemingly fixed notion of self that you have. Where did you get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 10:53 AM
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How is something a "romantic gesture" if it's not something he actually put any thought into but something he picked (verbatim) from a list of "10 romantic gestures for beginners"? The whole point of a romantic gesture is that it relates to you and your relationship. If it doesn't, what's the point of it? It might have appeared romantic to you but it clearly wasn't to him and that's what's important - "it's the thought that counts" and all that. But is the guy still not putting effort into tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 10:50 AM
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Do you act the same way around your grandparents as you do with your best friend? Act the same way around your coworkers as you do with your mum and dad?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 10:39 AM
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Eh? I never claimed I improved my social skills for some kind of benevolent purpose. As long as it doesn't harm anyone else I see no problem with. I can benefit while you benefit too. When I asked why you're mad that guys are learning to be more attractive to you it was a perfectly honest question. I simply want to know why it's so upsetting for guys to be more attractive to you? Unless you find wimpy, socially awkward guys just totally do it for you, but as a general rule, girls don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 10:34 PM
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How is it any different to a girl wearing make-up to convince guys that she's more attractive than she actually is? I like girls who make themselves more attractive for me. I don't see why you prefer to have a load of clueless guys walking around trying to do all sorts of stupid moves to please you. Look, guys are always going to mainly be the ones taking action to get sex or a relationship or whatever. Most guys don't have a clue at first, why would you expect them to? Similarly, why would you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 09:59 PM
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There have been quite a few instances where women were like, "Oh, he's so nice!" (i.e. generous, etc) where I rolled my eyes because I knew he was only acting that way towards her (not towards me, other guys, or other less-attractive girls) because he wanted to be perceived positively by her. This makes me laugh because I experienced it so blatantly. I was living with this clueless guy, not ugly but not good looking at all with appalling dress sense, who wanted to get with this hot european girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 10:23 PM
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Yup, it's ideology, which is shitty in all cases. I agree with a lot of points that feminists make and disagree with a lot too. The problem with ideology is that you stop using critical thinking and agree by default on any point made by your side. Seriously, how many feminists do you think have put serious thought into most of the positions they take? It's become a kind of culture of female empowerment masquerading as a social/political movement. What's damaging is women being told that they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:35 PM
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That's literally no different to hiring an attractive prostitute, going on TRP, and chatting shit about how much game you must have to be able to have had sex with a hot girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 02:38 PM
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The first guy only seems much more attractive because he's sparking a blunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 01:01 PM
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Also, I think I should also point out that OP is apparently just a teenager, or early 20s. No shit you weren't getting laid before, most kids aren't getting laid because as a general rule teenage boys aren't attractive. Most teenagers who claim to be getting laid are straight up lying about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:16 AM
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Sure but you don't level up like that. Maybe he'll hook up with a better looking girl every now and again, it depends how good looking he is in the first place, depends on the girls he goes for etc. There's a limit, if you're fuck ugly you're always going to be fuck ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:05 AM
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It depends if he grinds enough to max his charisma and allure stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 08:29 PM
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I'm at level where I can routinely pull and plate 6s. With another year of constant practice I'll be up to 7s. Two years after that I'll be at 8s. Yes this is exactly how attraction works.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 07:30 PM
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No. I disagree. The change in France was enourmous. They went from practically fuedal servitude and a ridiculous tax structure that places all taxes outside the nobility and church, headed by an absolute monarch.... To a modern liberal democratic republic. France's history is way more complicated than that, it wasn't all daisies and roses after that by a long shot. Similarly, it's a massive over-simplification to say that 'other states caught up'. France was a clusterfuck from 1789 to the late 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 11:03 PM
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Not talking about their politics. Talking about personality. The presidency worked because Washington handed it back. This worked because he's successor wasn't a fucknut. Put Lenin in the first chair, and he wouldn;t have given it up. When he died, put Stalin in the second chair (by palace putsch, no longer vote). By the time Stalin dies, america would have been fucked. Yeah but these personalities couldn't exist in Russia and vice-versa. The personalities are just products of their environment,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 09:40 PM
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The Americans seem very happy with it. Doesn't necessarily mean it was a good thing, Americans seem happy with all sorts of weird shit. Yes it was a huge change for them, the moved the dial a lot. As did the russians (albeit in a darker direction). But you can't say that the minds after those revolutions (or the US one) was ever the same as before. They changed their psyches. I have to keep insisting on this point though, despite the revolution and the emphasis on worker's rights/equality before…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 09:30 PM
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Neither do all heroin addicts. Basically, it's not your place to intervene unless you're good friends/family and know that the person is in trouble and doesn't realise it or really needs it. Fat people know they're fat. Heroin addicts mostly know they're addicts, but sometimes it's difficult to ask for help even though you really need it. Use your discretion. Fat people just have to eat less and move their butts, they know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 06:40 PM
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And yet despite all the revolutions you picked as examples what has actually changed? The American Revolution is a terrible example, the UK is a more equal place than the US. If you'd used some South American examples they may have been better (although to be fair I don't really know much about those). I'll accept that revolutions can create a change in consciousness in some scenarios, like in the French revolution with regards to church/state, equality laws etc. It's a part of the culture now, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 05:42 PM
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What makes you think all of that? Revolutions have occurred over and over again throughout history. I would argue that they've achieved very little on the whole. As you say The rich and powerful will always find a way to make themselves more powerful. The only way around that is to get rid of the rich and powerful and try to get something else in place before the new rich and powerful class arises. I probably phrased it poorly. I should have said that as long as there are people who want to be r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 03:45 PM
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I agree with this but I think, like a lot of RP posts, it's still a rose-tinted view of the past. The rich and powerful will always find a way to make themselves more powerful, nothing fundamentally changed after women entered the workforce, the rich just adapted to the change. Bringing out the guillotines won't solve anything. To achieve fairness and eliminate poverty we need a mass-change in our consciousness, a recognition that relative equality is better for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 03:22 PM
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Being ballsy is not confidence? Confidence is topic numero uno in PUA. But confidence is not exclusive to PUA. If you're starting out, I see no other way. You gotta figure out, say if its the right time to kiss, check her eyes, and then decide to go for it or not. It's not that hard to know. There's more to PUA then this stuff, I think you're forgetting a lot of the less innocent tactics that PUAs use.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 07:51 PM
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YES, 100% ABSOLUTELY THE 'GAME' STUFF IS WHAT'S MAKING THE GIRL ATTRACTED TO YOU. Clearly not being fake is easy to do and getting a girl attracted solely on that is almost impossible for the average guy. You gotta do ballsy shit like not being afraid to break the touch barrier, being comfortable holding her hand while telling her fortune, etc. She likes that, she's attracted to that. I don't know man, I'm not really convinced. Attraction is pretty primal. It seems to me that her being attracted…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 05:38 PM
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Because you don't know man, girls react differently to different things and you're not always going to do the 'right' thing. Touching just seems to be a way to escalate towards sex in a safe way, but is it actually going to make a girl be more attracted to you? If a girl is attracted to you it really doesn't matter that much what you do to as long as you're clearly not being fake or going way over the top. Is all the 'game' stuff really making a girl more attracted to you? Maybe if you're learni…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 05:14 PM
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But isn't most PUA advice just about 'inner game' or whatever anyway? Being witty, confident etc. aren't exclusive to PUA and TRP. Humans flirt naturally but a lot of guys are no good at it because they have no confidence or lack wit, both of which can be built on to a degree. I think everyone is fine with that. But the whole 'Say this! Touch them in this way! Do this to make her feel like you don't like her that much' seems like a load of rubbish to me. l feel like like it would hinder your suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 04:21 PM
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Agreed so much. You don't even need to focus on improving yourself, you improve just by living. Focusing too much just gets in your way. If you want success with women you'll have more luck by not being some kind of RPG character trying to up his skills and abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 03:01 PM
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You guys all seem to lack empathy, so you can't possibly see how women might feel about your posts, but still find time to moan when you perceive an attack on yourselves. For me to supposedly imply that RPers are insecure about their sexual ability is no more inflammatory than RPers calling women 'sluts' and saying that women who have had lots of sexual partners mentally ill. That's just one example, if you had any empathy you would clearly see how women are talked about by RPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 11:09 PM
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What do the constant attacks on women add? There are plenty of female posters who would find that inflammatory too. You guys only have a hissy fit when someone makes fun of or insults you. Which is hilarious, you guys are very wimpy. I don't think accusatory comments are inherently worthless anyway. They can lead to more interesting discussions. When you make everything totally neutral and polite, a discussion forum can become quite stale. As long as there's substance I don't think it matters, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 10:51 PM
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Again, that's your take from the question. but the question itself isn't inherently inflammatory. It's a perfectly honest question. I'm not saying that red pillers can't sexually satisfy their partners. RPers always talk about how they don't like girls with a high number of sexual partners. I could ask why RPers don't like it, but I don't think that would be effective. I want them to consider the possibility that they are afraid that they won't be able to sexually satisfy their partner and reply…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 10:41 PM
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I disagree, I've posted three threads, the titles of which aren't inflammatory at all. I can see how you might think my thread about RPers not being able to sexually satisfy their partners might seem inflammatory for certain people, but that's more to do with their insecurities than the title of my post. It's a perfectly honest question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 10:16 PM
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I think as long as my questions and posts have substance I should be allowed to sneak in little digs. I'm not here to word my posts so that I don't hurt poor widdle RPers feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 09:47 PM
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Thats fine. Do it for the fun. We were discussing the implications for sexual attraction. I get there are loads of other reasons to do it as well, but we we're discussing just one. You misinterpreted my point here because I confused two parts. I intended to say that there's a part of being an artist type that goes far beyond sexual selection. There's the reality of sexual attraction at play but most girls (some more than others) still retain the desire to have a sensitive, artsy, disney guy. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 02:43 PM
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I don't really agree with this. Sure, maybe a little bit, but actually I think there's a much more obvious point. If this were the case then girls would go apeshit over virtuoso cellists and trumpet players but they don't. They would go nuts for jazz players but they don't. There's a kind of romantic element to playing stuff like guitar and piano that girls find really attractive. It's the same reason a lot of them like disney films, there's a kind of magic to it when someone's really good and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 01:07 PM
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I take it you've never fucked an actual object before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 10:23 AM
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We absolutely prefer getting hit on by hot (people). Guess how rare it is for said hot people to hit on us? Depends on the girl. I'm probably a 6 or 7, but I got a few. Oddly, no women hit on me because I don't appear gay. I have two girls myself though so I am doing something right. I agree with all of it except for this. Feminists complain that lots of guys feel entitled to sex with whoever they want and then post this crap? The more attractive you are the more success you'll have. I mean, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 10:53 PM
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So the people who you believe to be successful with women act like what? They don't act. You can be a bit cocky, but purely with the awareness that the cockiness is silly itself. Try to live in this world without financial stability. You'll end up a beggar. Not necessarily. And the chief purpose of muscles is strength, not to attract the other sex. Yeah sure, I'm sure that's true. The majority of the people in the Red Pill are usually in the STEM fields. Along with many other professionals. One …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 11:03 PM
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Is it truly a bad thing to not bend over backwards for women? No, but it's really easy to see right through this disingenuous explanation of what TRP is. cocky and dominant I don't think cocky is that attractive. I think movies give people this impression. Actually the people I've seen who have the most success with women are generally not very cocky at all. Sure, maybe for teenage girls it's a bit turn on if that's your game. If you're on a date with someone intelligent, not just someone on you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 10:41 AM
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It's stupid to say that one gender is more privileged than the other when there are so many factors involved (race, class, weath, attractiveness etc.). A pretty middle to upper class white girl is generally going to be loaded with privilege. That doesn't that she won't be subject to sexism but on the whole, it's looking pretty good for her. Being a poor, less attractive girl wouldn't be so easy though. Similarly, attractive rich men have it lucky in life, whereas ugly poor guys are pretty much a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 10:43 AM
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I'm sorry man but I just don't believe this for one second. Most people at TRP are there because they're bitter unattractive guys who couldn't get laid. Even assuming you've made a change, started lifting weights, and acting like a douchebag not everyone is going to want to fuck you. There are a lot of guys out there who are physically attractive, smart, funny, and confident who don't subscribe to TRP beliefs. Like I said, no self-respecting women is going to want to spend more than a night with…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 09:57 AM
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Yeah I totally bet that happens all the time. Even then, it's not so hard to fuck trash. TRPers think they're hot shit but in reality they're just a bunch of bitter squares. So what? You had sex with a cheater. If you honestly presented RP views to an intelligent woman you'd be laughed off in a matter of seconds. You guys are boneheads and it's really easy for a genuinely intelligent person to see that. It's easy for a moron to trick other morons into thinking that they're clever, like a dog lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 10:40 PM
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But almost by definition TRP guys are all stupid and lame so I think a lot of women would avoid that. Sure I mean you can fuck them but beyond one night you're pretty much worthless to anyone with a teeny tiny bit of self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:32 PM
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fighter bodies normally look weird. Big core and smaller shoulders. I would love to have an otter mode body but with the training I do it won't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 09:26 AM
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They're too scared to be openly misogynistic and between spending all of their time working on their 'high-powered careers', lifting weights, and posting crap on the internet I doubt I've ever seen any of them out in the world. I doubt you could tell them apart from anyone else, I think their crap is mostly just a coping mechanism so they can deal with the fact that not every woman wants to have sex with them, instead of accepting that this doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 09:34 PM
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I'm UK too. Really I suspect I will never have a career because I've walked out every job I've ever had or got into a big argument with a boss or something. Even if I'm late for work sometimes I'll just chill for a while before and go when I feel ready. It's not feasible for me to work for anyone like that. I work pretty hard in general on a wide range of things which makes me think I can hammer my own way through, but mostly I've come to accept that a frugal, anti-materialist lifestyle will be …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 10:21 PM
2

But not getting your sleep wrecks your testosterone levels and is crazy unhealthy anyway. A nine to five life is the least 'alpha' shit I've ever heard of.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 09:56 PM
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That's cool man, I mean if you are the top then my post is not really meant for you. The top is the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 09:45 PM
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I wasn't really focusing on freedom, it's more to do with dignity and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 04:39 PM
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But are you ever going to get out of the game though? You can keep talking about how you're playing the system to get what you want but realistically you're going to be sucking up until you retire, you're not going to get to the top. If you get to the top congrats, that's it, but it's disingenuous to pretend that you're not being exploited, you're someone's little bitch. I don't mean to be rude or mean, that's just the reality of the situation. Do you not accept in this situation, that you're ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 04:34 PM
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Oh, yes. Let's make this personal now. It's not personal at all, why did you get that impression. I made no point about character. You realize their trainers typically drilled them on speaking because they didn't want them to appear ignorant, right? This includes Tyson too. That doesn't mean they were actually all ok in the skull. These guys aren't stupid, you can't be a great fighter and be an idiot, unless you're a total freak of nature. Even Mike Tyson isn't stupid. You really think Sonnen or…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 04:27 PM
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I keep having to reiterate this. I'm not here to say which is better. I'm here try and understand how you guys can all claim to be alphas when you're still doing what you're told. You're clinging onto comfort and stability and the guys at the top are throwing down a little bit of theirs so that you'll do what you're told to do. This isn't 'alpha' behaviour at all, you just make more money than other people. The way you're talking you sound like the hot 20 something year old chick who married a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 04:10 PM
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These are guys that have deteriorating brains because of their occupation. I'm really sure I care about their opinion or what they say. You're just confirming to me that you don't know what you're talking about. Both GSP and Chael Sonnen are two of the most eloquent guys out there and they talk very bluntly about fear and stress in fighting. It's not just fighting though, all competitive sports are the same. Even Mike Tyson (Mike fucking Tyson) was afraid and he was a freak of nature, everyone w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 03:58 PM
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Yeah I'm not trying to say what people should be doing or what's better, I'm just pointing out certain hypocrisies and seeing how people justify them. It's about deciding how much you want to cling onto stability in exchange for being told what to do. I asked because I found it strange that this was being promoted even those this is apparently not an 'alpha' virtue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 03:51 PM
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No elite competitive fighter will agree with you there. You can't be great if you aren't confident, sorry man, you don't know what you're talking about. Confidence is a pre-requisite for greatness, because if you're not confident you're worrying and if you're busy worrying you're not doing. This is 101 stuff for the best athletes, and mostly comes naturally for the rest of the 'greats' (musicians, actors etc.). Athletes are where you really find it though because it's purely competitive, and spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 03:34 PM
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Listen to Randy Couture, Chael Sonnen, or GSP talking about fear and stress before fights. That's real, speak with any high level competitive athlete and the ones with smaller egos will all say the same thing, the ones with big egos are just afraid to admit it. To be great at something you do need confidence because self-doubt is the road to failure, but stress and fear never go away, if they're not there I seriously doubt you're doing enough to feel those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 03:20 PM
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I don't think that's true. All the greatest sportsmen, all the great musicians etc. all experience stress and fear. It seems disingenuous to say that you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 03:09 PM
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But what does any of this have to do with getting paid or having a comfortable life? You guys go on and on about how women choose the easy life by getting with a rich guy, but you all seem to do the exact same thing with a company. It's safe and you get more money for it, and in exchange for that someone leads you and tells you what to do. Your work is not separate from your life, you're still being exploited and told what to do... so by your definition you're not alpha at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 02:54 PM
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Huh? You're confusing two different points. TRP operates largely on self-centeredness, which is mostly fine. I'm a leftie too but I'm not suggesting that everyone should become a musician. I'm not here to tell anyone how to live, I'm here to ask why you don't live in a certain way (or try too). This isn't about me saying everyone should do this, i'm asking why don't you do this when you've already said that competition is the name of the game, why do you give a shit about anyone else? Also, I re…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 02:46 PM
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It's not the more difficult option, it's crazy easy to do nothing and squat. It's literally the easiest thing to do, it takes no skill and no effort. It's just the terrible option, and that's why people pick homeless shelters over it. False dichotomy though, I'm never suggesting anyone do that unless they enjoy it but you don't need to be on the 9-5 treadmill to avoid that. It's difficult to do it if you want to make it worthwhile and enjoyable, whereas living a sycophantic life is spiritually d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 02:20 PM
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If it were that easy, why would homeless shelters be at capacity? Do you know how terrible those places are? Do you know how fast a tent deteriorates when you sleep in it for months on end? Do you know how hard it is to get food in the wilderness with no money? You make it out like it's Robinson Crusoe. It's not. I'm definitely not, I'm presenting it as the more difficult option, compared to the comfortable white collar lifestyle. I made myself valuble. They could fire me, but I could just as we…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 02:02 PM
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Being told to get out of my bed at a certain time to do some pointless job that sucks my soul is having no dignity. For me anyway. Been there, done that. Yes. Everyone has to serve somebody. Sure but we all serve each other, with your career you're serving one person and they're using you to make more money. Let's say I'm a carpenter (I'm not). I make you a table and you give me money, that money will eventually make its way around and back to the person who bought my table in exchange for his o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 01:56 PM
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I don't know man, is it because you don't care what other people think about you, or what you think about yourself, and you maintain a zen-like state of mind? If not just tell me because it's interesting regardless, I think you've brought up some good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 01:30 PM
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Can you explain why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 01:24 PM
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I'm less here to argue and more to get some viewpoints and reactions so my replies will most be pretty brief. 1, there are people who travel with very little money, sleeping in tents or with people they meet, playing music for money, you know... living on the road. It's an extreme example but my point is that you chose to travel comfortably and you had to be someone else's workhorse for that. 2, Because we like to get laid. It's really very simple. But is that worth your dignity? Your passions e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 01:20 PM
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Is it important for you to be an 'alpha' guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 01:02 PM
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Well firstly having fun doesn't necessarily cost money, a lot of people live very happy, enjoyable lives living frugally and there are people who live really great lives living on the road with no real job, just adventuring and living. But why do you care so much about being popular an getting girls to like you so much? I can't see how it's 'alpha' to live on a treadmill just so that you can get other people's validation. I agree with redpill theory by and large, in that obviously women do prefe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 12:43 PM
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