Octavius18 Archive

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5	The only thing any man has to worry about? Never depend upon a woman to meet your needs or for your self-esteem. That is way too much to put on any person, much less a woman. In the ancient world, such as the Greeks, men did not bond with their wives or sweethearts. They had a "man cave" in their homes where women were prohibited to enter. The men would meet with their male friends (I'm not talking about homosexual stuff), and they would drink, eat, laugh, and sometimes have female "entertainment", but never, ever would their wives or da…	/r/MGTOW2	02/08/21 01:17 AM
1	Thoughts on non western women? Thanks for the information. I was hoping that Eastern European women were more "traditional" and not as greatly influenced by Western feminism. Would it make any difference if you lived in Russia and married a Russian girl? I suspect that these Russian brides brought to the USA are only looking for visa/citizenship. I read that Russia has the highest divorce rate in Europe, which is not a good sign. I also hear that Russian males are drunks and that life is hard.	/r/MGTOW2	02/08/21 12:04 AM
1	Thoughts on non western women? I don't know what you're looking for in a woman. If you're looking for someone to marry, I would NOT be looking in America or Western Europe. If I were a young man looking for a life long mate, I would be looking in Eastern Europe, such as Russia.	/r/MGTOW2	01/08/21 11:55 PM
10	Another lost soul looking for answers that hopefully will discover MGTOW and the RP. So, who’s going to tell him? 😂 Women are never alone. They always have a backup plan (guys waiting in reserve). Some women will be honest and tell you that. Monkey-branching is common for women. Remember, women are by nature hypergamous. They are always looking to move up. As soon as some guy can offer her that, she'll dump you. It is what it is.	/r/MGTOW2	31/07/21 06:12 PM
1	Motherhood Was Designed by Men. Motherhood was created by God and/or nature, whichever route you prefer to go. Women are biologically designed to be child bearers and nurturers, men are not. Men and women are DIFFERENT. They are different mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically. A father will NEVER be as close to his children as a mother. Despite what this lunatic woman thinks, motherhood and fatherhood are not interchangeable.	/r/MGTOW2	31/07/21 05:00 PM
1	Reading these stories almost every day enforces my determination to never get married. There are bigger problems here than a bad marriage.	/r/MGTOW2	31/07/21 04:15 PM
5	Women are so oppressed There is no doubt that there is systematic sexism against males. EVERYTHING in our society favors the female. Women are neither better nor worse than men, but they exhibit their corrupt nature differently than males. In fact, women can be far more vicious and vindictive than most men. It's their nature. Never put a female on a pedestal. She is not paragon of virtue.	/r/MGTOW2	31/07/21 01:42 AM
3	My girlfriend cosigned my mortgage. I paid the mortgage for 4 years, plus a $125,000 down payment. She paid the utilities. Now she wants half I hope that this is a learning experience although a costly one. That was a costly piece of p\^ssy. I hope that she was worth it. In my state. you would be considered married, and your common law wife is entitled to get half of everything. Your example is repeated millions of times a year in the USA. Be lucky that you aren't paying child support for the next twenty years.	/r/MGTOW2	31/07/21 01:33 AM
5	Are there any married men on the sub ? I am married, but I do not know what you mean by "on the sub"? First of all, I am from a far older generation than most of the participants on MGTOW. I 'm married to a traditional wife. We have traditional marriage. We raised traditional kids. Women today are not like the women in past generations. Feminism, which is grounded upon Critical Theory, "revolutionized" the relationship between women and everything, not just men. Feminism never promised women happiness, but it promised them autonomy. …	/r/MGTOW2	31/07/21 12:37 AM
1	Do you embrace the nihilism, or do you cope with the nihilism? I do agree with the Existentialists that there is no meaning or purpose IN this life. As a Christian, my meaning or value does not come from this world, but from outside this world, namely God. So I am not a nihilist.	/r/MGTOW2	31/07/21 12:21 AM
-1	Do you embrace the nihilism, or do you cope with the nihilism? I don't adopt nihilism. There are two divisions of Existentialism, theistic and atheistic. The father of Existentialism, Kierkegaard, was a devout Christian, and not a nihilist. The French Existentialists were all Atheists, and they were all nihilists. The logical conclusion of atheistic Existentialism is nihilism. Both groups teach that there is no meaning IN this world. What people long for is meaning. This creates Angst (striving for meaning in a meaningless world). The Atheist's remedy for A…	/r/MGTOW2	31/07/21 12:19 AM
1	20 year-old realizing the true woman and relationships but having a hard time going through this stage and thinking about suicide: what would you recommend I do? As a Christian, my worth does not come from this world, but my worth comes from God. There is no purpose or meaning IN this world, so if you're looking for it, you will be disappointed. You should be thankful that your parents didn't give you what you thought that you were entitled to having. Your parents owe you NOTHING. The world owes you NOTHING. Look to yourself. Self-gratification comes from success. Find something that you're successful in doing. If you want to be happy in this world, forg…	/r/MGTOW2	31/07/21 12:10 AM
13	I've decided to completely commit to MGTOW starting today. Since I'm married, I would be a hypocrite to say that I'm a full fledge member of MGTOW, although I am one in spirit. What I mean by that is that I am in total agreement that marriage is at best a risky proposition. Men are definitely victimized by the legal system and the culture, including the media, such as movies, television, etc. There is systematic sexism in America and is all against males. Our schools are little more than finishing schools for girls. Even the church has been radically fe…	/r/MGTOW2	30/07/21 05:56 PM
0	Debate between the 2 sexes is very difficult, because for women the group called "men" has a completely different meaning First of all, we can't even decide in this culture what a man or women is. You have women thinking that they are men, and men thinking that the are women. Nothing makes sense in this culture. You are whatever you chromosomes say you are. Thinking you're something other than your biological sex is to reject the Creator and his creation. Secondly, sociobiology or evolutionary biology are very consistent in what men and women are and how they behave (genetic predispositions). This also goes for rac…	/r/MGTOW2	29/07/21 11:11 PM
8	Make me smile MGTOW2 Never, ever date a single mom. Never, ever look for women on the Internet or dating sites. Ninety-nine times out of a hundred you will deeply regret it if you do. the desire for males wanting female mates is imprinted in our genes. There is NOTHING that you can do about that desire, except control it. I don't mean this to be rude, but you sound like a needy person and deliberately ignorant. What would possess you to bond with some woman's kids that you met on a dating website? If you want kids, …	/r/MGTOW2	29/07/21 10:15 PM
2	Funny how paedophiles seem attracted to sociology along with its derivative ideologies like feminism, progressivism, gender identification (sexology/sex ed), where they can perform sick experiments by justifying it with "exploring gender" I majored in the "hard" sciences when in college, so I was not subjected to the garbage that you find in the psychology, sociology, and education departments. I never considered them as being remotely scientific, but a bunch of subjective gobbledygook. None of these "sciences" meet the basic requirements of the "scientific method." I don't put any faith in the "findings" of the sociology or psychology departments UNLESS there conclusions can be supported by the data and the results can be repeat…	/r/MGTOW2	29/07/21 08:07 PM
3	Would you take the vaccine if its required for your job and career? I am vaccinated in order to visit sick people in the hospital and nursing homes. I was willing to sacrifice my health or life to do that. It is part of my calling as a minister. I have not had any of my family vaccinated, nor will I. The vaccine is a risk. I'm old enough to remember when the medical profession recommended thalidomide to pregnant mothers, and when the government said that Agent Orange was safe.	/r/MGTOW2	29/07/21 04:57 PM
5	Imagine a future with perfect robot companions I have often thought that the answer to stop the inequities in marriage for men is the development in robotics by which a "more human, than human" female robot would be created. The robot would be programable. You would not have to be worried by losing everything in a divorce. The benefits of a programable human-like females would be a gift beyond imagination. Let human females reap what they've sown.	/r/MGTOW2	29/07/21 03:56 PM
3	Question about a girl My rule of thumb is that a women that is sleeping with me most certainly will sleeping with others. Never assume that you are the ONLY one. Women always have "backups".	/r/MGTOW2	29/07/21 03:56 AM
1	Why is MGTOW considered a hate sub by feminists? These feminist snowflakes want to be offended. It’s what they live for. If you tell the truth about women, they go hysterical. Ok	/r/MGTOW2	27/07/21 02:17 PM
1	Why is MGTOW considered a hate sub by feminists? These feminist snowflakes want to be offended. It’s what they live for. If you tell the truth about women, they go hysterical.	/r/MGTOW2	27/07/21 02:17 PM
4	Predatory middle aged women at Parkrun? Most successful men, in their thirties and older, do not date women their own age. It is natural for them to date women in their twenties. Men are by nature attracted to younger women (the ideal age is between 18-25). It is a biological proclivity or predisposition. Men, unconsciously or consciously evaluate every female he sees on the basis of her ability to produce children. It is similar for women, too. I will say this. There is a good chance that you will live into your nineties. As you get …	/r/MGTOW2	26/07/21 04:57 PM
6	We don’t recruit. We just watch them show up and learn for themselves why the best thing a man can do anymore is focus on himself and go his own way. Women are NEVER alone. There are always some guy(s) flirting with her, especially if the females are between the ages of 18-25. After they reach the thirties, their mating value sharply declines. Even if you have a serious relationship with a female, she always has a backup guy waiting the the wings. That includes married women, too. Women are by nature hypergamous (she is always looking to move up). By the time most women reach their thirties, they've ridden the cock carousel. If I were a young…	/r/MGTOW2	26/07/21 03:59 PM
16	I’m so mad that I allowed myself to be a beta but shit what can you really become when you were raised by a single mom 😂 Never date a single mom! If you do, you’re begging for disaster.	/r/MGTOW2	25/07/21 07:45 PM
5	Millennial Woman Says That Modern Dating Sucks Because Guys Wont Approach Her?? (Sounds Like Men Are Starting To Wake Up) Women have it easy when they are between the ages of 18 to 25. They are at the height of their attractiveness. After the age of 25 their dating or mating value begins to decline. 30 year old successful men are not looking for 30 year old females. They are looking for 20 year olds.	/r/MGTOW2	25/07/21 07:35 PM
26	The majority of younger guys make the fatal mistake of putting women on a pedestal, from an older guy, please don't. Whether you approach women from an evolutionary perspective or a biblical one, women are neither more nor less virtuous than men. History, including biblically history, is filled full of examples of evil women and weak men. Never underestimate the cruelty and invectiveness that even the "sweetest" female can exhibit.	/r/MGTOW2	25/07/21 01:34 PM
1	A movie about a man who gets hypnotized to see women's "inner beauty". One of my sources is from Alexander Grace on YouTube. He bases his views on women on evolutionary biology and he provides documentation. I took graduate courses in sociobiology decades ago, before political correctness, and it was much easier discuss issues on sex and race.	/r/MGTOW2	25/07/21 01:14 PM
13	If a woman or family member asks why don't you believe in marriage show them this and say because I don't want to goto jail for unable to pay her Alimony/Child support. This tragic story is all too common. I have seen so many men's lives destroyed by divorce. Eighty percent of divorces are initiated by the wife. The problem is not the institution of marriage, but problem is primarily with women. Feminism and the legal system have made marriage very risky for men. I tell men that before they fall in love and want to get married, think about why you want to get married, and imagine the worst case scenario if you do get married and be prepare for it.	/r/MGTOW2	24/07/21 11:32 PM
19	Why does society treat the act of obtaining a girlfriend or getting married like it's the ultimate goal? Feminism has overwhelmed Christianity as it has all our institutions. Churches today have become feminized to the extreme. This logically leads to the acceptance of homosexuality, same-sex marriages, and transgenders. It is part of the same cloth. I'm a Christian pastor and life long Christian. My denomination refuses to ordain females to the Holy Ministry or to accept homosexuality or same-sex marriages. But I see the effects of feminism even within my denomination. Even the changing of the cre…	/r/MGTOW2	24/07/21 09:04 PM
13	A movie about a man who gets hypnotized to see women's "inner beauty". It is not realistic for either sex. Both sexes are attracted to the physical appearance of the opposite sex. Don't let women tell you differently. Sexual attraction is a biological factor. Whether people are aware of this or not, when a man looks at a woman, he is evaluating her on the basis of child bearing. Women evaluate a male based upon his ability to protect her and her children. A woman is attracted to a male based on his ability to provide and to protect. Women are NOT attracted to "sens…	/r/MGTOW2	24/07/21 08:19 PM
4	Why does society treat the act of obtaining a girlfriend or getting married like it's the ultimate goal? I don't believe that getting a girlfriend or getting married is the ultimate goal of SOCIETY. The ultimate goal is progeny. No species or society can exist if it does not reproduce. The desire to spread our genes as far and as often as possible is built into our DNA. Society reflects that biological predisposition. Males that do not mate do not exist in the eyes of nature.	/r/MGTOW2	24/07/21 08:09 PM
4	Female obsession with therapy and men needing it. As someone that has been engaged in counselling for forty years, there is nothing more destructive to a marriage than secular counselling. The basic premise is that it is the male's fault. Women, by nature, are always wanting to change their significant other, and anything that she cannot control is because there is something wrong in her partner. It is NEVER the woman's fault. I would strongly suggest that no one subjects himself to secular counselling if you really want to save your relationsh…	/r/MGTOW2	24/07/21 06:56 PM
3	"Equality" they said As an older male, I experienced second-wave feminism from its beginning. The Feminist ideology is no different than Critical Race Theory (Hegelian/Marxist ideology). It is an ideology based upon division, conflict and revolution. Women were the persecuted class and men (patriarchy) were the oppressor class. Liberation is achieved by the oppressed class becoming the oppressors (destroying patriarchy). This view has inundated every institution in America and Europe. Today's feminism is 180 degrees…	/r/MGTOW2	24/07/21 05:59 PM
8	My life Women are never alone. They always have some guy or guys in reserve. There will be some simp chasing her, too. Women are looking for someone better and "monkey-branching". Women will have no problem using you and then dumping you when it is to their advantage. It is always hard to stop liking a girl that you "fantasize" about. Most of us have been there. But remember, it is a fantasy. She is never as good as you think that she is.	/r/MGTOW2	24/07/21 06:10 AM
3	Some Feminists Condemn "Toxic Masculinity" yet Those are the very females that act the most masculine. Define toxic masculinity. From my point of view, toxic masculinity is for males to act like women or become simps and cuckolds.	/r/MGTOW2	23/07/21 06:19 PM
1	I feel really bad for this guy and those like him. Hope he sees the light This guy is so screwed up that he may be beyond help. Any guy that would "allow" his girl friend or wife to screw other guys is pathetic. I have no sympathy for this guy.	/r/MGTOW2	23/07/21 05:40 PM
7	How do you guys carry on without having a significant others love? In Col 4 and Eph 5 the same list of table duties is given that wives are to be SUBORDINATE to their husbands. Husbands are to love their wives. The fact that Paul starts with the wives , in both table of duties, is unusual. Normally, Paul starts with the highest in the social order, men, and then proceeds to the least, slaves. It seems that the problem in the church starts with wives not respecting their own husbands. Women have not changed since before written history. There are examples of wom…	/r/MGTOW2	22/07/21 06:02 PM
1	I hate my life What most people are looking for is "meaning" in their lives. The atheistic Existentialists say that there is no meaning or purpose in life. You have to create your own meaning or purpose. If you are not a theist, you have to create those things that give your life meaning. If you are a theist, such as myself, I obtain meaning from outside the world, that is from God. It is he that gives my life meaning and purpose. We are all thrown into this world, and we have no say about this. Some have it b…	/r/MGTOW2	22/07/21 04:51 PM
3	Do you ever feel like you were born in the wrong generation, or in the wrong society, or on the wrong planet? I was born back in the 1950's. The world in which I was born seems like another planet than the planet Earth. Everything that was considered normal is now considered abnormal and everything that was considered abnormal is the new normal. This includes marriage and women. Feminism, which is in fact a from of Critical Theory, destroyed marriage and society in general.	/r/MGTOW2	21/07/21 11:13 PM
6	Advice for an Incel A very useful source of information is the YouTube program by Alexander Grace. He has great insight into the female psyche. Eighty percent of women are only looking for the top twenty percent of men. Most men are invisible to women. Women are also hypergamous (always seeking to move upward). Information can be a great source of comfort, and it directs the problem not to you personally but to the very nature of women. A woman will never love you (that includes all men). Women will never respect a…	/r/MGTOW2	21/07/21 10:41 PM