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"tran" isn't singular for trans 😂 Unless of course, this is new lingo that I need to catch up on...
/r/MensRights23/09/22 10:33 PM
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You what?
/r/MensRights23/09/22 10:12 PM
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I think many circumcised males would say differently...
/r/MensRights24/08/22 01:22 PM
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Don't be disingenuous; you're comparing problems of differing severity in order to undermine a valid point. Language has an important role in human development - don't underestimate it.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 09:04 PM
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Maybe you don't have to, but a lot of men do. Please don't project your social safety and confidence on to others. You don't know what other men think.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:49 AM
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I fail to see why you think it has to be a competition of who has it worse? If both parties have their reasons, then why not let them have their own spaces? It's a win-win scenario.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:39 AM
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I fail to see the point of this reply
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:27 AM
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I fail to see how this is legal. If catcalling makes the males feel uncomfortable/threatened, then surely this "experiment" is unethical and illegal. Seems like a paradox to me, unless the Dutch have very different perceptions of academic ethics and/or laws about experimentation.
/r/MensRights15/05/22 09:30 AM
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Not really. The only thing that women are judged more harshly on is age. Men have lower standards for good looks and other characteristics. But the only exception is age (this is because, biologically, women over 40 aren't very fertile). So no, overall women have a much easier time finding sexual partners compared to men.
/r/MensRights23/09/21 08:34 PM
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I fail to see the relevancy.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 09:09 PM
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You're both making some really interesting and valid points. I'd just like to add though, that in our current western society, a lot of young men have been conditioned to hide masculinity. It's as if masculinity has become a taboo that men should avoid in order to maintain social (and sometimes legal) security. On top of this, straight couples who choose to adopt sex-specific roles are often looked down upon and questioned. People have become so negative in their outlook of men that they assume …
/r/MensRights20/03/21 09:59 AM
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another example of men having something endearing and postive, and these misandrists have now villainized it Hate to be that guy, but that phrase and several other phrases were never really "positive" remarks about men... they were always little passive aggressive put-downs of masculinity... they just happen to have gotten worse, as you evidenced. Of course, some people don't realise it when they say things like this (I'm assuming you OP included), but what it's really doing is unintentionally d…
/r/MensRights31/01/21 07:47 PM
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Ah. I feel ashamed... not "guilty". The latter suggests I have done something wrong, whereas the former does not.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 10:24 PM
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some random angry women I would agree. Except, there's a book teaching others about it. If they kept to themselves, I wouldn't be bothered. But young women are picking up books like these, and taking it all on board.
/r/MensRights02/10/20 09:52 AM
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Really? I thought most of them have defected from the Trump administration.
/r/MensRights02/10/20 09:39 AM
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Took me a minute to figure out what body dysmorphia has got to do with it because she used a Cheeto as a comparison. I mean come on penises aren't that small. At least make the comparison realistic.
/r/MensRights01/10/20 02:30 PM
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A bit vindictive... but I understand.
/r/MensRights01/10/20 02:28 PM
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No worries!
/r/MensRights01/10/20 12:20 PM
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On the last point, it's because of the demonization of men. Yeah i think it's worse in America, but I've definitely noticed it in the UK too, especially among young people.
/r/MensRights01/10/20 12:20 PM
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https://www.pnas.org/content/112/17/5360
/r/MensRights01/10/20 11:50 AM
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No, because this sort of thinking is far more common in the west (I'm referring to paedophilia) Mainland Europeans find it very strange that men are supposed to be associated with children. It's a cultural problem. Men are consistently demonised in our culture and media.
/r/MensRights01/10/20 11:45 AM
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Well... they're pretty much correct about the last one considering men make up more than 80% of homeless people :/
/r/MensRights01/10/20 11:40 AM
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I feel like I'm voting for the lesser of two evils... except I can't make up my mind who that is.
/r/MensRights01/10/20 11:39 AM
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It's such a shame to be honest. It's so common to view men as criminal, even among men. I myself have been guilty of doing it, so I have to tell myself to stop.
/r/MensRights01/10/20 11:20 AM
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Fair enough. But under 70 isn't cold haha.
/r/MensRights01/10/20 11:19 AM
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overcoming gender norms Except... men don't mind if a woman is sexually interested... only other women seem to.
/r/MensRights01/10/20 11:18 AM
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Below 70 isn't cold mate... Fahrenheit is scaled according to human survivability. Under 50 is cold.
/r/MensRights01/10/20 11:12 AM
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Hate to burst your bubble, but I think you're just projecting yourself, there.
/r/MensRights01/10/20 11:10 AM
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Good of you to join us. Word of advice: this sub has some fantastic posts and a plethora of really useful and informative research, but, there are also a lot of posts which are really just outrage porn - things we've all seen before countless times; it can be quite easy to fall into the trap of self-pity and victimhood, which is the exact behaviour in feminists, SJWs etc. which is so despised. So just a heads up, don't become addicted to wallowing in the victim mentality. It's best to focus on t…
/r/MensRights01/10/20 11:00 AM
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That place doesn't sound real to me lol
/r/MensRights01/10/20 10:54 AM
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Correct the top one to: doing anything with kids, anywhere.
/r/MensRights01/10/20 10:53 AM
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(shhhh!)
/r/MensRights01/10/20 10:38 AM
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Thing is though, imprisonment for false accusation shouldn't scare you off from reporting/charging for a real crime. In the UK, false accusations are only recorded as false if the accuser concedes and admits the accusation is false. This means that, even if the accusation is proven false by court, you can't directly be punished for lying (which is unbelievable!), and can only be charged for defamation. Point is, if if the rape did actually happen, it's highly unlikely to be proven a lie; you may…
/r/MensRights01/10/20 10:28 AM
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most young women, I should say. But yeah, it's true. I come across so many young women and girls who have this sort of haughty superiority complex about them, at best...
/r/MensRights01/10/20 10:18 AM
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Oh come on. What 10 year old hasn't made stupid idle threats. She isn't a criminal.
/r/MensRights01/10/20 10:12 AM
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You seem to be stuck on the derivation of gender. Gender is behaviour characteristic of the sexes, but it's not purely caused by the sex. There are societal pressures as well, which includes gender roles. The societal pressure often enhances or specialises the gender traits already inherited by genetic sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/20 08:31 PM
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So far I know VAWA and Duluth Model... that's it sorry.
/r/MensRights30/09/20 07:45 PM
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The frequency of these kinds of messages in our culture is probably convincing women that they're superior. On either a subconscious or conscious level. I'll probably have to raise my kids out in the middle of nowhere, if I have any.
/r/MensRights30/09/20 07:44 PM
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Oh that's awkward.
/r/MensRights30/09/20 03:43 PM
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It's gynocentrism. Pure and simple. Yes, obviously war was hard on women, but to bitch around saying "women are the real sufferers of war", is just plain childish. Quit having a pity party, and learn to value your men. My advice would be to just ignore it and move on. No way are you going to change the minds of sulking idiots.
/r/MensRights30/09/20 12:31 PM
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Evidence of innatism: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/sex-differences-in-human-mate-preferences-evolutionary-hypotheses-tested-in-37-cultures/0E112ACEB2E7BC877805E3AC11ABC889 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/mar.10099 Evidence of environemntal influence: https://thefatherlessgeneration.wordpress.com/statistics/ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5499410_Gender_differences_in_facial_imitation_and_verbally_reported_emotional_contag…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/20 10:00 AM
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Yeah Reddit included.
/r/MensRights29/09/20 11:11 PM
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This is more of a rage post, but no worries, we all have our moments.
/r/MensRights29/09/20 10:21 PM
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It's sad that we need to unironically strip ourselves of our identity in order to live normal lives. It sounds almost like... going back into the closet.
/r/MensRights29/09/20 10:10 PM
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No, no. He's got a point.
/r/MensRights29/09/20 10:05 PM
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Name checks out
/r/MensRights29/09/20 10:04 PM
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No worries. Happy to be a part of it.
/r/MensRights29/09/20 10:03 PM
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Sorry meant to say the man, not the child lmao
/r/MensRights29/09/20 06:23 PM
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But violence by proxy is the same as wetwork hiring. She didn't ask for him to be murdered, she simply pointed it out. Correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, she's a fucking 10 year old. No 10 year old should be criminalised for that. The parents of the boy should.
/r/MensRights29/09/20 04:46 PM
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Uh... no. Parents raping and killing their child is objectively worse than a stupid little 10 year old lying about abuse. She probably doesn't even know what it is, and just learnt how to lie. What she did was wrong, but oh come, she is a child for fuck's sake. If you think otherwise, well, I'm sorry, but you have a fucked up mind.
/r/MensRights29/09/20 04:11 PM
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Aha exactly :/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/20 11:08 AM
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I'm so tired of women having little to no accountability for their actions, while men do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/20 10:51 AM
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Sorry but most unis are like this. You either have to ignore them or challenge them. I'd suggest the former, unless you have back up and good evidence.
/r/MensRights29/09/20 10:24 AM
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ahem *hate
/r/MensRights29/09/20 10:10 AM
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Well... that's defamation for you. In all seriousness though, what the fuck is wrong with the parents..?
/r/MensRights29/09/20 10:07 AM
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I'm hoping you meant /s
/r/MensRights29/09/20 09:41 AM
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Absolutely! Now that I no longer fear being assaulted by strangers out in public or getting over my anxiety from my ex-girlfriend's abuse, I will never experience anything negative again. It's impossible! The laws of the universe dictate that if you don't acknowledge the existence of a problem, that problem automatically goes away for everyone! Yay! Isn't that great?
/r/MensRights29/09/20 09:02 AM
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I was basically asking what the problem is by suggesting one... he never actually detailed the issue.
/r/MensRights29/09/20 08:54 AM
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Ah thanks, you too mate! <3
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 09:24 PM
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Absolutely. Recognising the abuse is the first step to overcoming it. I was just simply replying to some impassioned responses!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 09:14 PM
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I agree with almost everything you said. But, I wasn't really arguing opinion - I was arguing fact. If you think our brains are a blank slate, then fine, but I know scientifically that our brains and bodies are intrinsically motivated in a very natural, primal, and healthy way (ignoring disabilities obviously... but that just furthers the evidence for "survival of the fittest").
/r/MensRights28/09/20 09:06 PM
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Ok. Never eat food again. Never sleep again. Never drink again.
/r/MensRights28/09/20 08:20 PM
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Exactly. The whole movement is downplayed by mainstream focus, who insist on labelling us as "right-wing misogynist creeps"... I'm generally left-wing and political standing should not be used as an offense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 08:12 PM
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You're talking about specific scenarios. I know these things affect hormones, you don't need to tell me that twice. But, my point is you're born with a predetermined baseline level for hormones. This changes all the time, of course, but you still have a standard level. People with chronic depression suffer from a lack of serotonin by default, (or oxytocin - I can't quite remember). Men who are naturally very hairy have a higher baseline testosterone level compared to other men. Our behaviour and…
/r/MensRights28/09/20 08:08 PM
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It's both actually. Our brains develop different structures in the womb. And the environment only affects certain hormones. Hormones are also predetermined to be at specific levels. That's why some people develop chronic depression.
/r/MensRights28/09/20 07:50 PM
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tinyurl.com/y5cv8y4j tinyurl.com/yxb94qbj Look at the ONS UK 2019 for abuse victims Also see the "I Am Not A Rapist" documentary on iPlayer Btw... I don't understand your problem with White Ribbon. There is definitely male on female violence out there which needs specific attention. Restricting that would be morally wrong. However, I do see a problem with their representation, in that they pretty much advertise the notion that only men can be perpetrators, and only women can be victims.
/r/MensRights28/09/20 03:47 PM
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Yeah thank you for correcting my assumption. I was too enraged to focus on important details! You've articulated my thoughts exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 01:40 PM
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That article made me cringe so hard. Oh my god, what a fucking idiot that stupid writer is. It's the most self-indulgent, pointless, and misandrist piece of crap article ever written. She sees grilling as some sort of higher position role. Yet also points to it's simplicity. Make up your fucking mind. Men don't invade women's norms, so don't invade ours. Don't snatch the masculine rituals away from men which they find comfort in. And then she goes onto to her anecdote of men being worse cooks. F…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 10:37 AM
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Added note: the MRM also looks at prison sentencing and treatment, empathy gap, decline in male performance in education, mental health, demonization in culture/media... etc. etc. A common misconception is that MRM is mostly divorced fathers and "incel" teenagers. It's certainly not the case.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 10:24 AM
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Well... tell them they shouldn't be afraid. Their negative view of men is sexist. Unfortunately, yes, this is becoming quite common for young women these days to feel this way. It's because of our culture and media, which demonize, defame, and degrade men. Men are constantly portrayed as criminal, incompetent, predatory, and perverse... among many other things. Even young boys have started to view all men this way. Most people have bought into the ideas that we're shown, and they're so desensiti…
/r/MensRights28/09/20 10:08 AM
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I believe otherwise. The Chinese, under Mao, tried this and it was arguably the greatest disaster of the twentieth century. Women, in particular, hated it. Gender roles arise quite naturally and trying to socially engineer them out of existence will take us down the path to a dystopian society. ​ The simple reason men earn more than women is that male sexual market value is dependent on professional status whereas female SMV is not. Social engineering will not change this fact and any attempt to…
/r/MensRights28/09/20 10:01 AM
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Nice hole, bro.
/r/MensRights28/09/20 09:45 AM
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Yep. I found this out about a month ago. I'm not against the adjustment between the sexes if adjustment occurs. BUT They only adjusted based on class and sex, but no other factors such as age, race, nationality etc. even though these other factors have played a big part in the results in previous years. They extrapolated from the trend of the last ~30 years, meaning males have performed worse this year than any other year in the last 30 years. In the last 30 years the performance of girls has in…
/r/MensRights28/09/20 09:33 AM
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What was said? I didn't get to see it. Yeah I agree. Engaging in bitter whining just exacerbates the cycle of hate. It also makes Men's Rights look bad, and we certainly don't want to become the very people who we disagree with.
/r/MensRights28/09/20 09:19 AM
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The fact that some people will look down at this nice innocent father and see him as incompetent or criminal is... beyond me.
/r/MensRights27/09/20 11:40 PM
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Don't ever, ever, watch the show The Fall. Honestly sounds like Gillian Anderson is actually the Hitler of men considering the comments she makes (both in character and in real life). Keep your sanity and don't watch it.
/r/MensRights27/09/20 08:37 PM
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I don't think the problem itself is sexist per se, more a product of negligence, as demonstrated by the digoxin case. The problem is that MSM seems to be focusing attention on how it affects women more. To be honest, it's like the children who throw a little pit party when they don't get the attention they want.
/r/MensRights27/09/20 05:03 PM
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This comment is really stupid. No offense. But it is. You're condoning sexual assault simply because you don't mind. Firstly, what if it was another man, and he did mind. Secondly, you're advertising the idea that it's ok to sexually assault someone if they don't kick up a fuss. All sexual assault cases should be treated equally and not favoured by good-looks; it's this thinking that causes only "ugly" guys to be called creepy when they sexually harass yet good looking guys are called sexy when …
/r/PussyPassDenied27/09/20 04:31 PM
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I think you're missing my point though... Just because your attack doesn't hurt as much because the attacker is smaller, doesn't mean the attacker will get less time for the same crime. Otherwise, that's discrimination against larger people.
/r/MensRights26/09/20 12:59 PM
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Yes, sorry I exaggerated. What I meant was basically that assault is assault, no matter how hard you hit someone; if you intended to hurt them, it's considered assault.
/r/MensRights25/09/20 01:48 PM
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Yes, women are more likely to have depression and anxiety. But not toher internalised disorders, as I previously suggested. That's beside the point anyway, because psychological disorders are far more common in male criminals than non-criminal males. An extrapolation cannot be made for the sexes between criminals and civilians.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 10:19 PM
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Intentionally toying with the hormones of men is essentially playing with nature. You can disagree with that, but you still don't have the right to enact it, because it's not your body.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 10:15 PM
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Female criminals are also more likely to have mental illness such as depression, borderline personality, trauma, or have drug problems. You must've not done your research because men are biologically and parentally predisposed to have more mental issues. Women's crimes may cause lower physical damage than male crimes. If judges truly value this, then their objectivity is compromised. The eventual severity is not allowed to be considered.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 10:13 PM
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I didn't say it is... I was referring to the immorality (or even criminality) of trying to control (other) men's testosterone levels. Did you read my original comment about this?
/r/MensRights24/09/20 10:08 PM
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Males are more likely to be born with almost all congenital diseases, including mental issues. Men are more likely to be born with psychopathy, for example, meaning they're predisposed to being immoral/criminal. Men are also more likely to develop sociopathy, which has the same effect, because boys are more likely to be abused when growing up, and are shown less empathy then girls.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 10:07 PM
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Testosterone decreases when shown a lack of respect, or bullying etc. Because testosterone is a mood stabiliser in itself, environments that cause men to have low testosterone such as degradation and bullying cause depression/anxiety in men, in a more drastic and biological sense.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 10:04 PM
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I'm already aware of the demonization of men in our culture and media, but thanks. I would suggest you look into female criminality, but it's not supported by mainstream services, so good luck. Toxic behaviour certainly does not involve men, for fuck's sake.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 09:56 PM
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Yeah obviously. I said YOU cannot control testosterone - you can only control your own testosterone, not others.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 09:53 PM
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I'm not interested in your anecdotal evidence, sorry. Firstly, toxic behaviour isn't exclusive to men. If you looked into the research on this sub rather than buying into the mainstream media's demonization of men, you'd realise the truth behind all those facts. Most crimes are committed by men No, most prisoners are men... there's a difference. The male mind is more inclined to use violence as a resolve to conflict, and violent crime is easier to incriminate. That's just one reason why men are …
/r/MensRights24/09/20 09:52 PM
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Too many of any hormone is bad... what's your point? You can't control testosterone in men, (well you can but it's difficult, immoral, and psychologically distressing).
/r/MensRights24/09/20 09:42 PM
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Firstly, those traits you've listed are positive; maybe not to you, but to others they are. Don't try to eliminate someone's behaviour. Secondly, many masculine traits are innate. Just because they are socially encouraged/enforced, doesn't mean they don't have biological origins. Consider the effect on men if we tried to control their evolved behaviour; it's like trying to starve an animal. If you can't change reality, change your perception of it.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 09:39 PM
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Feel free to look at the influence of testosterone when threatened or confronted. I'm not here to do the work for you.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 09:35 PM
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Two logical fallacies. I'll point out the first, but you'll have to figure out the second for yourself. Fallacy of Malagency: men are the agents of all bad things, and women can do no wrong unless forced to. Toxic masculinity is not the factor of all those things you listed. Please, please, please don't be that naive
/r/MensRights24/09/20 09:32 PM
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Being stoic leads to suppression of emotion. Emotions are meant to be expressed or else they bottle up inside. That's innately true for women, but not for men. Masculinity isn't just a product of cultural determinism. Aspects of masculinity are traits that males have evolved, and that includes stoicism. Don't try to eliminate someone's biology, because you can't. Toxic masculinity =/= masculinity. If that's the case then why is "toxic masculinity" called "toxic masculinity". Toxic behaviour is t…
/r/MensRights24/09/20 09:29 PM
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Having an ego and being entitled aren't things related to masculinity at all... If anything, femininity includes entitlement, but I'm not going to bother with that.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 09:25 PM
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That's exactly what the video corrects: it's not toxic masculinity, it's toxic views of masculinity. Bad behaviour isn't usually sex or gender related. bad behaviour is a product of a lack of empathy. Crime and suicide rates are far higher among people who grew up fatherless, because, as you can guess, they lacked a masculine role model. Criminals tend to experience abuse and bullying more than others, and empathy is only developed by receiving empathy... so what does that tell us about how to t…
/r/MensRights24/09/20 09:20 PM
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Yep. Too often do I see feminists pick up men's issues as a way to further degrade men and support their narrative (conveniently). Look at the men's mental health crisis... "toxic masculinity!" ... That's unhelpful, damaging, and frankly just a comment that arises from feminist theory as opposed to fact. Seriously, I'd rather feminists just leave men's issues alone, because they make them worse. Not to mention that it's their way of not taking accountability for themselves, because of course "it…
/r/MensRights24/09/20 12:30 PM
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I pretty much agree with you. I'm all for embracing gender roles. They're honourable positions that are useful and part of them is innate to every human in some way or another. I just don't see how it's fair that feminists want to eliminate gender roles, and lobbying means we're literally being forced to give them up. I'd be willing to put up with systematic discrimination if women had to as well, because tbh there's always going to be challenges in life.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 12:15 PM
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Well, I'm not sure about that. They certainly didn't intend to hurt me, so I don't bother blaming them. I just wish I was raised correctly, because now it's going to take me a long time to rewrite myself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/20 11:47 AM
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I have nothing. I have been so emasculated, it's as if I've been neutered at this point :(
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/20 11:47 PM
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I don't feel capable or allowed to express masculinity, especially around my family. I literally lack the ability to be masculine in a healthy and useful way. I don't want to be a woman or feminine or anything, and I want to be masculine and fit the good, healthy male role, but I can't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/20 10:44 PM
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For false accusations, I suggest watching "I Am Not A Rapist" It is a BBC3 documentary (surprisingly) that released recently and can be found on iPlayer... it took 5 years to be approved. The fact that false accusations are only recorded as false if the complainant admits falsehood, is outrageous. You could include the demonization of men/masculinity in media and culture... e.g. look at how men are portrayed in non-fictional contexts (i.e. not fantasy but things like sitcoms etc.), and how these…
/r/MensRights23/09/20 10:24 PM
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When I came to terms with the fact that I suffer from anxiety, confidence, and identity issues because I was raised by a casually misandrist family who identify as feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/20 09:48 PM
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Ironically, man flu is a real thing. It's not a disease, but a symptom that enhances other the severity of other symptoms. It's caused by 2 things: The lack of a second X chromosome; information regarding immunity is stored partly in the X chromosome, and since men only have one, they only get one shot at the immunity, unlike women who utilize whichever X chromosome is better in that situation. The immune systems of men are regulated by testosterone. If testosterone levels decrease sharply, the …
/r/MensRights23/09/20 09:50 AM
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Thank god someone in there said something
/r/MensRights23/09/20 09:25 AM
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Good question!
/r/MensRights23/09/20 09:16 AM
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on the topic of sex/sexuality... you could do one to illustrate how everyone has been subconsciously conditioned to look down on male sexuality. People love to praise women being horny as sexually liberal. But people are uncomfortable or repulsed by the idea of men when it comes to sex... it's always seen as desperate or predatory.
/r/MensRights22/09/20 08:55 PM
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Black people are perceived as more masculine What do you mean by this? Is this an actual fact?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/20 06:15 PM
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'toxic masculinity' boils down to two things, natural caveman behavior that is in our DNA & cultural trends for how men are supposed to behave. Yep. Part of the problem is that feminism preaches the idea of cultural determinism, whereby all behaviours are learnt from our environment. But, that's simply not true. Some behaviours, including aspects of masculinity, are innate traits that can't be ignored. If people have a problem with masculinity, they need to improve their outlook on it, rather th…
/r/MensRights22/09/20 10:05 AM
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Absolutely. I think people need to improve their outlook on masculinity rather than bash it, especially considering aspects of masculinity are innate rather than cultural products, as described by feminists. If you can't change reality, change your perception, is what what I'm trying to say, I guess. Let's honour what masculinity does for the mind, and respect it.
/r/MensRights22/09/20 09:16 AM
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My future proffesional is going to shit in helping men. Honestly, I think you're going to be very popular among male clients; people like you are hard to come by. It's funny that some counsellors retort men should seek help from therapy more, but at the same time try to violate their masculinity as much as possible, simply because they idolise feminist theory.
/r/MensRights22/09/20 08:41 AM
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I guess I should start looking with a magnifying glass.
/r/MensRights22/09/20 08:34 AM
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Hey good for you, mate! I would just look into some evolutionary bio/psych research and present it as evidence that masculinity is extremely helpful and useful. Sure, some of it is theory - but, then again, so is a lot of sociology. Counselling methodology should not be based on theory, especially if there are contradicting theories, and instead only on facts.
/r/MensRights21/09/20 09:38 PM
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Yeah. Seriously. I've been looking for them everywhere! Sure can't seem to find them.
/r/MensRights21/09/20 09:33 PM
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I know you were thanking me. But as a humorous correction to your: "I should of worded it better," I said, "*should have" ... i.e. you said "worded it better" so I corrected your words... It's supposed to be funny. Really? I sure haven't seen a lot of grammar nazis on Reddit!
/r/MensRights21/09/20 09:30 PM
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*an asshole I was trying to be ironic but you're really just throwing yourself under the bus at this point.
/r/MensRights21/09/20 09:12 PM
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*should have
/r/MensRights21/09/20 03:48 PM
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Avoid referring to men as oppressed. It's not helpful, and people will just try to argue against it, or just ignore you. Don't participate in the Oppression Olympics. Try to point out that men face severe legal and cultural issues, and use that as leverage for support and recognition that both men and women face problems so women clearly aren't oppressed in the modern day.
/r/MensRights21/09/20 01:30 PM
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In terms of content, your arguments lacked depth. You mention that women are socially conditioned to be comfortable showing more emotion than men. While this is true, it's not the whole truth. Men have also evolved masculine traits, likewise women have evolved feminine traits. Sociology wants you to conform to the idea of cultural determinism, meaning our behaviour is purely a product of our environment - but it's not. You should criticise the notion that men are taught to hide their emotions, b…
/r/MensRights21/09/20 11:35 AM
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Same bro. I think she made some awful decisions but on the whole her contributions to American society are overwhelmingly positive. I think male advocates and MRAs should be looking up to her as someone who we'd want as a leader.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/20 09:13 PM
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I’m tired of being judged by the contents of my bra, rather than the contents of my skull. Uh... seriously? I highly doubt women are more likely to experience that than men, considering how men are degraded by our culture and media. I'm sorry if that has happened to you, but trust me when I say, that isn't a mainly women's issue.
/r/MensRights20/09/20 08:46 PM
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I agree with you, and I don't understand why others can't. She helped all women in the U.S. and a few men too. She engaged in some immoral events but on the whole her actions benefitted the American population more than harmed them. She isn't perfect. She didn't have an infinite amount of time to get things done. If we want changes to be made for our benefit, we need to respect and praise the people who helped others in the way that we'd want help from them.
/r/MensRights20/09/20 10:09 AM
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Yeah of course it shouldn't be allowed in the classroom specifically, or in the transition time. I disagree with your statement about it being an actual fight: you could say that about any opportunity turning for the worse, and if it does happen then they should be reprimanded. You also shouldn't be held accountable if someone gets hurt, so I understand you have to obey this, but obviously the rule itself needs to be abolished.
/r/MensRights19/09/20 09:45 PM
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I made a detailed post about this too: Negative portrayals of men in media/culture is a title covered in r/MensRights Wiki, but I think the severity of this issue needs to be more reinforced. It's not just negative portrayals that are an issue, but also glorification of missandry in media and culture. People seem to forget that media and culture play a big part in our psyche and leave a major imprint on our viewpoints of the world. Not only is the problem severe in its effects, but it's also ext…
/r/MensRights19/09/20 09:38 PM
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Yeah don't worry I'm not here to argue over every differing opinion in this sub aha! Can I just ask why you don't think it's the time or place?
/r/MensRights19/09/20 09:26 PM
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Yeah I agree that last one seems low effort crap. But otherwise I mostly agree. And roughhousing is good. It's healthy for males, especially when growing up, and it's perfectly natural. If you don't like boys roughhousing, either ignore it or improve your perception of it. Don't degrade masculinity by saying the old "well, boys will be boys".
/r/MensRights19/09/20 09:11 PM
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Completely disagree. White men's reaction to that shows how outrageously unfair that is. Considering the frequency of the use of the word, you can no longer say they aren't oppressed by that fact alone. I can see where you're coming from in the "white" sense at least, but if you look in the wiki of this sub, you'll see that men face serious problems (legal and cultural), your naivety is understandable since media tries its best to avoid talking about male problems (unless as a way to further deg…
/r/MensRights19/09/20 08:50 PM
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Tbh I just think it's best to not copy their behaviour. "Be the change you want to see" is what I'm trying to say, I guess. Just argue with them legitimately, and if they fuck about, bring up factual evidence.
/r/MensRights19/09/20 08:25 PM
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u/TheTinMenBlog
/r/MensRights18/09/20 10:04 AM
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At this point I don't bother with mainstream social media it's full of shit like this. Just quit Instagram.
/r/MensRights18/09/20 09:50 AM
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Oh god their desperation to make women the focus of the report makes me cringe
/r/MensRights18/09/20 09:47 AM
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Yeah that's obviously true but what he means is that women get so much support from feminists.
/r/MensRights18/09/20 09:45 AM
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I agree with the message but the fact that there are no "anti-violence against men" posters just demonises and practically advertises the notion that only men are perpetrators.
/r/MensRights18/09/20 09:27 AM
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"Demonization of men" would be my preferred choice as well! I think it's really interesting how people's behaviour is affected by their negative viewpoint of men. The TV and film industry is a big source of casual misandry and we all become so desensitised to it that we've just learnt to accept it as normal. A lot of problems people face would go away if we all had a more positive outlook on men and masculinity. BTW I have a post on this topic. I'll pin it on my profile for you to see.
/r/MensRights18/09/20 08:58 AM
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Love that show and love the female power... but it also heavily relied and that mistake too... think about it, all the men are either incompetent, evil, or dead. They also sent a really bad message about rape, and domestic abuse in the later seasons particularly. Buffy exploits and violates Spike a number of times, but when he attempts to rape her, suddenly he's seen as the worst of the worst. All it did is tell people that only men can be abusers, unfortunately.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 10:24 PM
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lmao "Ting"
/r/MensRights17/09/20 10:15 PM
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Bro that's such a good idea. People have no choice but to listen! I would suggest looking at the MensRights wiki which includes a lot of links related to mens rights issues. I would also suggest looking at u/TheTinMenBlog. This guy has some fantastic stuff and he really cuts it down to the good stuff. His insta is great. As for topics, I think some of the best ones are: the masculinity crisis - why more masculinity is needed, rather than less systemic misandry, particularly in the eyes of the la…
/r/MensRights17/09/20 09:33 PM
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Males also die younger due to a lack of genetic information relating to the immune system. Each X chromosome carries part of this genetic information, and since women have 2, they get a greater chance of having higher quality immunity genes. Men only have 1, so they tend to have weaker immune systems. On top of that, the male immune system is regulated by testosterone. A sudden drop in testosterone is proven to weaken the immune system severely. So environmental factors, such as depression or bu…
/r/MensRights16/09/20 11:14 PM
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I think feminism can and has been incredibly useful... but 99% for women alone, with men having gained very little from it. In fact, significant groups of feminists have actually created more casual and systemic misandry. The MRM no doubt has issues, particularly when it comes to coherency, in my opinion. And there are some questionable members. However, compared to feminism, it has a much cleaner profile. For MRM it's simply about looking useful to men and looking flawless to feminists; what I …
/r/MensRights16/09/20 11:01 PM
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I'll have to look into those
/r/MensRights16/09/20 07:53 PM
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Big difference between appreciating the art of half-naked militant women and inciting violence against men
/r/MensRights16/09/20 07:29 PM
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Just realised it's 6 years old though... :/
/r/MensRights16/09/20 06:56 PM
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Well damn... didn't expect this from the guardian. But I'm happy to see that these sorts of articles sometimes manage to slip through the cracks of (any) media bias.
/r/MensRights16/09/20 06:56 PM
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It's the simple Fallacy of Malagency. Men are inherently bad - women are inherently good; men are cruel of their own accord - women are only cruel when they are forced to.
/r/MensRights16/09/20 06:23 PM
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Nooooooo
/r/MensRights16/09/20 09:47 AM
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I agree. i think there are a group of men who are not interested in competition, including myself. But, I think maybe we should encourage men to be competitive, because that natural drive helps productivity. Not to mention, competing men appear happier and more content, in my opinion.
/r/MensRights16/09/20 09:46 AM
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Yeah this is the mirror image of feminists calling women who support/defend men "pick me" girls.
/r/MensRights16/09/20 09:31 AM
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Took me a sec...
/r/MensRights15/09/20 11:10 AM
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Ohh I see what you meant now
/r/MensRights14/09/20 02:45 PM
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I sort of disagree with that though. I don't think the theory that men's involvement in "the patriarchy" is down to the incompetence of their mothers is correct; I think women have been compliant with "the patriarchy" (if it exists) because they are taught to from day one, and they become trained to support it or be ostracised. Just my thoughts
/r/MensRights14/09/20 02:37 PM
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For a brief period I labelled myself as feminist, but only out of fear. I have a much older sister who is a borderline man-hater under the guise of feminism. I suffer from anxiety, in part, due to how badly she treats me, especially when I was a little kid. That lack of self-worth, coupled with my naivety, resulted in me falling into the trap of saying I was a feminist. Now that I am older, I've realised how seriously flawed and destructive it is in modern life.
/r/MensRights13/09/20 11:43 PM
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Yeah. What I meant was, people criticise men for being men when it's really just the individual. People criticise women for being individual and it's considered to be sexist. See what I mean. They should both be criticised for individuality and the criticism should not be seen as sexist therefore.
/r/MensRights13/09/20 04:55 PM
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Adding to that, while criticism of women is usually considered sexist even if sex isn't relevant, criticism of men is always about their sex, and never their individuality, even if sex isn't relevant.
/r/MensRights13/09/20 04:47 PM
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I was in tears at the end when i first watched it :(
/r/MensRights13/09/20 11:19 AM
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True. You have the biggest influence over your problems. This is basically what therapy does for you. But you should also remember that feminism can influence these problems. Without feminism, some of your problems would never have existed. So I agree that blame and shame isn't helpful, but recognition of the root cause is helpful, because it means you can avoid future issues relating to it.
/r/MensRights13/09/20 11:18 AM
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Two questions should be: Do you know what causes toxic masculinity? (I am referring to nature vs nuture here!) Can you be certain about your answer? Is there solid evidence for it or is it a theory?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/20 10:42 AM
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u/TheTinMenBlog "92% of male participants (and 87% of female participants) agreed that the idea of ‘toxic masculinity’ changes the way we see all men" "previous research has found that boys are more quickly associated with negative attributes than are girls" "...for example, schools should be aware of the implications of workshops which could inadvertently make boys feel negatively about themselves by virtue of their gender"
/r/MensRights13/09/20 10:37 AM
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My first argument defending this is mainly that feminist women should not be commenting on masculinity because they're out of their depth. They lack empathy for men, and believe that men's problems are caused by men (or "patriarchy") of course... this means masculinity can be used as a convenient topic to bash men while also signalling false ideas of gender equality (by saying that they're trying to help men'n mental health, for example). They need to take a step back and reflect on the validity…
/r/MensRights13/09/20 09:56 AM
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Makes me want to... oh wait no I can't say that here
/r/MensRights12/09/20 11:03 PM
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Thanks! Yeah, I can't stand either of those two. Far too snobby and she's pretty stupid.
/r/MensRights11/09/20 11:11 PM
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This is the most useless post in this sub I have ever seen
/r/MensRights11/09/20 04:46 PM
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Yeah, I really want to get this book. I've heard it's really good, although her enthusiasm perhaps causes some scenario bias in some parts, apparently. But oh well, I'm still glad it was written, especially by a woman.
/r/MensRights11/09/20 04:38 PM
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Why include something that harms the narrative?
/r/MensRights10/09/20 11:00 PM
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I read the story and I am already crying before I've watched it. I'm not joking. As someone who is suicidal and has had rumors of sexual predation spread about him, I don't think I can bare to watch it.
/r/MensRights10/09/20 07:30 PM
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No worries! Have fun!
/r/MensRights09/09/20 06:46 PM
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Lmao it just got removed because it's too popular
/r/MensRights09/09/20 06:45 PM
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Live saver
/r/MensRights09/09/20 05:04 PM
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That's good to hear! While you're at it, you might want to look into why the notion of "toxic masculinity" is flawed (in some ways). It's not what you'd expect, and you'll soon realise that the term is largely a ploy used by feminists to perpetuate the image of men as always being perpetrators (known as fallacy of malagency). Men's mental health is also a huge issue of course, but again, you'll soon see that feminism has taught that men's poor mental health is a product of masculinity, which is …
/r/MensRights09/09/20 05:03 PM
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The u/TheTinMenBlog has a post about this. On Instagarm at least.
/r/MensRights09/09/20 09:16 AM
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Yes but the supported stupidity is both amusing and really depressing in a fatalistic way... you know?
/r/MensRights08/09/20 05:21 PM
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Makes me cringe with disappointment at how rife this attitude is these days.
/r/MensRights08/09/20 02:26 PM
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I'm not sure whether I should chuckle or cry.
/r/MensRights08/09/20 02:16 PM
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That's not the point of the post though...
/r/MensRights08/09/20 02:09 PM
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Ok "for attention" perhaps infantalises it, but it's sort of true. I guess it's better to describe it as a "call for help"
/r/MensRights08/09/20 09:32 AM
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Aha don't mimic the furious god. The golden god.
/r/MensRights08/09/20 12:44 AM
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My point about "some" being a minority is that normal people would feel uncomfortable if someone said this to them out of the blue. It's just unnecessary. You don't need to say it, so please don't. Just because YOU like it, doesn't mean other people do. I don't really care about whether or not it is illegal. It's just an understanding of social behaviour. You don't HAVE to ask how someone's day has been, but it's expected to show some interest in other people once in a while. It's just being con…
/r/MensRights07/09/20 06:08 PM
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That "some" is a significant minority. So for future reference, it's safe to assume people don't want it so it's best to not try it. I don't see the problem with being considerate. Why should I have to be put in the position to object to someone's advances in the first place? Only in a sexually established setting should I have to hear those words and have the opportunity to object.
/r/MensRights07/09/20 05:49 PM
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I know she should've done that. But he also shouldn't have just dived in with "You really turn me on". Most people find that uncomfortable advancement.
/r/MensRights07/09/20 05:40 PM
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Feminism preaches cultural determinism, meaning all behaviour and thought is developed from our experiences growing up. This has no respect for biological innatism, whereby some behaviours are intrinsic qualities that we are born with as a result of evolution.
/r/MensRights07/09/20 05:36 PM
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Yeah you're right. Both of them are doing something wrong.
/r/MensRights07/09/20 05:28 PM
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Mmmh it's innapropriate explicit sexual referencing. People should be able to go outside without others engaging in sex talk with them. Eh, I don't know.
/r/MensRights07/09/20 05:16 PM
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True. But for the wrong reason. We are aware that be definition a female can't rape, and that the headline is technically correct, but that's not the point. The point is: saying "has sex with..." downplays the severity of the sexual assault against the man, which is on par with the severity of rape. In the end, it conditions people (subconsciously or consciously) that sexual assault (/rape) against men isn't as bad as sexual assault against women.
/r/MensRights07/09/20 05:13 PM
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Your comment is so on point it makes me sad
/r/MensRights06/09/20 09:19 PM
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Eh, ok, but I don't think a couple of legal issues means men are oppressed. We just don't need that kind of self-indulging victimhood that can be used to shame others. It's not helpful and doesn't win any respect or favor. Let's try not be like the people who already do this.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 08:14 PM
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True, but it is easy to measure attempts that cause significant harm and/or end up requiring medical attention since they can be recorded. If anything, people could be attempting at an even higher rate than we're aware of.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 03:17 PM
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No but someone spread rumours about me in 2 other schools that I was a sexual predator, and several people believed her. Not fun :(
/r/MensRights06/09/20 01:12 PM
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Mmmmh I see your point. But a single article isn't much to go off
/r/MensRights06/09/20 01:01 PM
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The post is aimed at suicidal women. I don't see the problem. There are posts for men about suicide.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 12:52 PM
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Societal pressure does play a role (some "societal pressures" are actually biological, however, but anyway....) but the suicide rate among men under the age of 45 is increasing at an alarming rate, but there aren't more pressures from society than there used to be. As these things don't correlate well, it is more likely that the change in modern society has brought about the increase in male suicide. This likely includes perceptions of body image, cyber bullying, as well as societal misandry
/r/MensRights06/09/20 12:26 PM
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That's because women are more prone to it... Women attempt suicide more, but succeed in it less. This is because: they use less effective methods; they are less likely to actually want to die, and are more likely to use suicide attempts as a way of seeking help; following on from the 2nd point, young women are more likely to fall prey to the Werther effect, whereby they are more likely to attempt suicide in the wake of another's suicide (suicide attempts and suicide rates spike when a celebrity …
/r/MensRights06/09/20 12:21 PM
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But most people are not criminals or divorcees, so... most people are not affected by that law either.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 10:56 AM
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But of the people who could vote originally... Surely they were all men, no? Genuine question. I'm playing Devil's Advocate constructively.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 10:55 AM
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That's not what he's doing. Violent criminals should (on the whole) be incarcerated. He's just trying to resolve the frequency of violent criminals by explaining why they are the way they are.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 10:48 AM
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True but women are not allowed to hold occupations in many organised religions. I will revise my statement from legal to institutionalised in organisations. Swings and roundabouts if you ask me.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 10:45 AM
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Aw my guy. I love Buffy. And I agree, it works perfectly. Women's rights should be highlighted in a positive and representational manner, like positive icons including Buffy characters and the fighters in Black Panther. It should not be tokenism, virtue signalling, or man-hating.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 10:42 AM
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Aha caught me off guard! I guess it would be substantial legal disadvantages that exist unjustly.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 10:36 AM
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The fallacy of malagency! Men's issues must be caused by men, never women! Unfortunately, feminist propaganda and lobbying has instigiated this notion in society that men's suicide rate is our own fault, and other factors such as women's influence/power or biology must not be true
/r/MensRights05/09/20 08:54 PM
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Wait for real? Can you elaborate on that for me please, I didn't know that.
/r/MensRights05/09/20 08:28 PM
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Usually find it's women who judge men for their emotions more than other men
/r/MensRights05/09/20 08:07 PM
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*melanin melatonin is the sleep hormone, not a colour pigment
/r/MensRights05/09/20 07:38 PM
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I get your point, but I wouldn't describe men as oppressed either. Both men and women have their problems. It's time for everyone to just accept this and stop victimising ourselves by labelling oppression and ranking privilege.
/r/MensRights05/09/20 07:31 PM
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I'm convinced that "toxic [gender] traits" are just behaviours that we have evolved for success which can't really and shouldn't be messed with. Think of it like your hunger hormones. You can't and shouldn't ignore those now, should you?
/r/MensRights05/09/20 07:28 PM
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... uh, no no, we understand perfectly the magnitude of rape. I could detail the psychological effects of violation, but I think you know what I'd say. Whereas, the magnitude of false accusation is not really understood in society. Ask yourself this: would you rather be viewed as a rape victim or a rapist? I know which one I'd prefer...
/r/MensRights05/09/20 07:08 PM
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Amen.
/r/MensRights05/09/20 06:46 PM
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Definitely. But also, I tend to see that the loud shitheads among feminists tend to be the ones that hold the most power and popularity, unfortunately... unlike the loud shitheads of MRM which often seem to be shunned and unpopular. This might not be true, but it's what I've noticed at least
/r/MensRights04/09/20 01:31 PM
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Maybe I'm being stupid but I don't understand what you mean
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/20 01:27 PM
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Oh right. My bad
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/20 01:26 PM
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I'm not ring wing or conservative myself, but I hate that these terms have become insults of personal attack. Seriously, if i disagree with people's political standpoints I don't hate on them for it. Seems like emotional bullying and manipulation to me. Same goes for terms like "libtard" - it's childish, unnecessary, reductive, rude, list goes on...
/r/MensRights27/08/20 10:47 PM
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Well some of it is just straight down due to homphobia, there's no denying that. When it comes to women alone, feminine straight men have a hard time in the dating/sex scene because feminine behaviours signal homosexuality in men. It may be down to homophobia, but it could also just be that the men become unavailable as a potential partner if they're gay, so gay characteristics cause women to lose interest in feminine/camp men. In that case, it's not really women's fault, nor is it the men's fau…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/20 10:22 PM
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I have 3 haha! Are there any female ideologies that detail fault in women alone? Every ideology I find believes men are the perpetrator and instigator of everything wrong in society, and the only time women do bad is when there is an external force that hurts them into doing bad... (the notions of malagency: men are always the baddies and women are only ever bad because of men) Speaking of malagency, are there any feminist theories that aren't deterministic about the quality of men and women? Ev…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/20 10:11 PM
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That's quite a simple summation, but pretty much you are right. it all comes down to the quality against quantity dichotomy in reproduction. Men's sex drives ensure the quantity of offpsring is sufficient, while women's choosiness ensures the quality of offspring is sufficient. These are competing elements in nature (due to resource and time restrictions), and humans have evolved so successfully due to the position of equilibrium of these factors (among other things)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/20 09:40 PM
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I think of MRM and feminism, feminism is far more guilty of that trait
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/20 08:49 PM
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Yeah there are diffidently some questionable characters in r/MensRights but on the whole I find the members to be quite constructive of issues, and aren't particularly misogynistic (the majority of hate is aimed at feminism). In fact, I find r/MensRights to be much more calm and reflective than r/Feminism (by reflective, I mean critical of EVERYONE and not biased against women/feminism). That's my experience at least; perhaps the sub has changed a lot over time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/20 08:48 PM
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The OP should just ask for a men's therapy to be introduced, or just go with the one he has available to him. Trying to punish the women's therapy is just vindictive and conterproductive
/r/MensRights27/08/20 07:48 PM
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Yes but the therapy is specifically aimed at WOMEN who have gone through that experience and the therapists are going to be women specialising in that sort of thing so that the clients feel safe being around other women. Men who have been victims of sexual abuse should seek men's therapy with male therapists. I don't see why the women's therapy should be reprimanded for not including men, considering it specialises in women's issues...
/r/MensRights27/08/20 07:46 PM
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Yes but the therapy is specifically aimed at WOMEN who have gone through that experience and the therapists are going to be women specialising in that sort of thing so that the clients feel safe being around other women. Men who have been victims of sexual abuse should seek men's therapy with male therapists. I don't see why the women's therapy should be reprimanded for not including men, considering it specialises in women's issues...
/r/MensRights27/08/20 07:46 PM
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I don't understand the problem. You have access to free therapy, you just don't have access to a women's "safe space". The therapy exclusive to women specialises in women's issues, which don't apply to you, so the therapy would be redundant to you. Trying to access the woman's therapy completely violates the purpose of it. Just use the therapy on offer to you. If you want an exclusive men's therapy then complain about that, but don't complain about discrimination from the woman's therapy
/r/MensRights27/08/20 11:07 AM
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Unfortunately, insta pagees like this are flooded with feminists screaming "toxic masculinity" as a way of passing off men's issues and blaming everything on men and masculinity Can't even have a safe space online without some feminists violating it, let alone in real life :(
/r/MensRights27/08/20 10:57 AM
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Indeed
/r/MensRights27/08/20 10:53 AM
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Oh shit yeah sorry. Brain fart. Forgot basic statistical rules.
/r/MensRights24/08/20 10:37 PM
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I see your point. I'm just wary of the proportionate sample size of only 2% (of 100)
/r/MensRights24/08/20 10:29 PM
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Wow ^^^^
/r/MensRights24/08/20 07:13 PM
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I think you need to spend more time on here. I rarely ever see comments/posts that generalise "men have it worse" but every now and then you'll hit a rough patch and things like this become a bit more common. Anyway, if you take time to reflect on r/MensRights you'll see that "men have it worse" is not the trend; the trend is: men have problems that feminism doesn't help to solve despite feminism advocating for equality. (See: the first rule on r/Feminism)
/r/MensRights24/08/20 07:12 PM
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I understand what you're saying and I'm not having a go at you, but you can't just extrapolate and assume that the rest of rape legal accusations are equally true and false. It could be 60 - 40 for example, idk.
/r/MensRights24/08/20 06:54 PM
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Firstly, I'd like to mention that at least 4% are PROVEN false (This is a US or UK stat - I can't remember sorry). Secondly, like how not all true rape allegations are taken to court, there are a lot of false rape allegations are taken to court. I know 3 men who have social accusations against them that they're sexually abusive... One of those men is me. Seriously. Just because I wasn't taken to court and had charges pressed against, doesn't mean the accusation hasn't affected my social life, co…
/r/MensRights24/08/20 06:52 PM
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Wow that first part is spot on But I disagree that protector/provider/workhorse roles... are poisonous to mens health and happiness. I think most men would like to fit that role considering it's biologically driven
/r/MensRights24/08/20 06:35 PM
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How many men are killed during high risk jobs, victims of assault etc. etc. ...Oh wait, no, apparently it refers to your sexual endeavours. How silly of me!
/r/MensRights24/08/20 05:55 PM
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Your comment makes me so sad. Not because it's wrong, but because it's true. Men are blamed for everything in our culture. There is no praise for men at all. Men's problems are immediately always passed of as being our own fault, and feminists don't seem to consider any other factors before jumping on the manhating train. Men's mental health: let's just blame it on men Let's just not accept any responsibility or accountability for ourselves, or consider any other factors such as biology...
/r/MensRights24/08/20 05:30 PM
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Yeah there are stereotypes all around the world. But some are far worse than others of course, as seen in the west (it is not just a US problem, I experience it in the UK too).
/r/MensRights24/08/20 12:46 PM
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Well of course he can go to therapy for his problem... but that's not the point! The point is that he shouldn't have to feel this way in the first place! The point is that western norms of men have tainted manhood with anti-male rhetoric, and this is largely a fault of feminism. If you don't feel that men have been portrayed that way, then that must feel nice, but it's definitely a real problem, otherwise men wouldn't have issues like this... I don't understand why you're talking about embracing…
/r/MensRights24/08/20 12:42 PM
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But he only feels like thise because of sociatal demonization of men. It's quite a new problem, in that the anti-male society associated men with padeophilia. I agree that he should ignore it, but he's trying to point out that he shouldn't have to experience this in the first place.
/r/MensRights24/08/20 12:31 PM
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Yes, it's true that mothers do this more often with very young children.... BUT, your explanation doesn't account for the fact that this is a relatively new problem. It is far more likely that the demonization of men in modern western culture has tainted people's views on fatherhood.
/r/MensRights24/08/20 12:29 PM
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Problem is though that these insecurities are learnt from society and media. Men wouldn't be terrified of being fatherly and women wouldn't be scared of being harassed/assaulted if the media didn't constantly portray men as subhuman, incompetent, beastly etc etc If we had more positive views on males, we would be happier and more secure.
/r/MensRights24/08/20 12:22 PM
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\^ This! It's been going on since ~60s, but hasn't really had an impact until the last ~30 years I'd say.
/r/MensRights24/08/20 12:17 PM
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The association of paedophilia with men is part of the dogma of modern society. Around every corner is another anti-male rhetoric that you have to ignore and bear through. I would go into more detail of what I mean by anti-male rhetoric that festers in society and social norms, but I'm honestly not ready to invest that much time and effort right now. So for now, I'll just say: ignore the assumptions about men with children, you'll be happier and less likely to teach the same reaction to other pe…
/r/MensRights24/08/20 12:11 PM
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I agree, it is uncomfortable. But you feel uncomfortable because modern anti-male society has told you to. Try to ignore that feeling, because it is a socially learnt feeling that isn't natural or biologically sound. It will also mean you'll be less likely to exert you discomfort onto other people, including impressionable children, and then they won't learn the same reaction.
/r/MensRights24/08/20 12:06 PM
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I think you've missed the point... He's arguing that society should stop demonizing men as predators, murderers etc. etc. He's not wallowing in self-pity (maybe a little bit, but that's understandable)
/r/MensRights24/08/20 11:53 AM
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Sorry, I wasn't trying to sound rude in my original reply. And I appreciate your response and advice. Some of the things you say are very true, and I've heard most of what you've said before (but still, thanks!). When I said yes, I meant my sister has used words like this before, but she hasn't actually used "manplain" against me in particular... I would agree that I should give people the benefit of the doubt if I've never heard the words come from their mouth, but my point is more that there i…
/r/MensRights20/08/20 10:02 PM
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Exactly! I just don't get how unempathetic you'd have to be to use those words. Btw, some people (inc some feminists) do believe in toxic femininity, but they're rare to come by. It's not focused on at all, because it doesn't help the manhaters narrative of "men bad, women good, men dumb, women smart, men weak, women resilient..."
/r/MensRights20/08/20 09:50 PM
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Yeah definitely, and that wouldn't be a problem if it didn't give radfems more power than they already have.
/r/MensRights20/08/20 09:47 PM
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Oh I thought it was to make all men look bad because of a couple of male poachers, and therefore all women look good because a group of women stopped them.
/r/MensRights19/08/20 11:55 PM
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True true. I guess it's just the fear of degradation. It would be nice to not care what other people think of me, but sadly that tactic doesn't work in life since humans are inherently social beings.
/r/MensRights19/08/20 11:50 PM
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Yes, but that's not really the point. The fact that ANYONE uses the words is the problem, because anyone else could do the same, and that's what worries me.
/r/MensRights19/08/20 11:48 PM
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Really great and useful post, my guy! I wouldn't expect to see something like this in other media or news.
/r/MensRights19/08/20 02:40 PM
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When you say "weaker" do you mean physically weaker? If yes, then I agree and it's scientifically established that that's true. If you mean generally, then you can't make that claim and say it's not sexist, because the statement isn't proven by science and is just your opinion/observation. Not trying to have a go, just simply pointing something out.
/r/MensRights18/08/20 10:23 PM
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I think you could've done without the sexist remark at the end... but I see your point
/r/MensRights18/08/20 07:00 PM
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