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Clearly, this shows that they don't value their female partner's pleasure and that they are selfish. Since they only care about their own pleasure, maybe they should stick to masturbating?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:02 PM
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Yes, exactly! It's the same when men call women "emotional" because they don't consider (their own) anger to be an emotion, lol. Isn't it funny how men in the manosphere use altered definitions to better fit their narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:31 AM
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Very friendly indeed: https://np.reddit.com/r/GirlGamers/comments/1ez9vn0/im_sick_of_being_constantly_harassed_i_want_to/ Why are there so few female gamers when my buddy and I are so friendly with them? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:55 AM
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On the contrary, I think men need to sexualize women far less and simply treat them as human beings. In other words, use your brain more and your d*ck less.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 11:06 PM
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A resounding 'no'. Society is already messed up, and I'm worried that a male-only society would make things worse overall, with more crime, violence, greed and road rage - just to name a few. My bad - it's not just a male-only society, but a Blackpill state! Well, I might be tempted to join and go ER after all. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:51 AM
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I think they take it personally and have poor emotional processing skills, except when it comes to anger. Many of them also view women as prizes to conquer. Therefore, a woman who dares to say "no" is someone who throws a wrench in their gears. Loneliness probably plays a role as well because men generally don't fare as well as women when living alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:10 PM
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I guess he'd be fine with that as long as "no" actually means "yes." I say this sarcastically because, sadly, many men just can't seem to accept "no" as an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:52 PM
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Nah, it's women who enjoy being spoiled that need therapy! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:54 PM
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You Can’t Prove the Red Pill because it's complete BS. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:25 PM
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Oh, thanks! Does that mean I'm in the top 0.000001 percent of decent men? I expected there to be slightly more of us, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:57 PM
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Intersectional Feminism: bashing men with aluminum baseball bats. Not All Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:47 PM
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Men: No. The issue is being friend zoned. Also men: Wah Wah, No One Cares About the Male Loneliness Epidemic!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:34 PM
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I bet I could find 99 out of 100 women whose friendship would be more valuable than yours. Give me three reasons without an ulterior motive, what do you have to gain? Come on, go ahead!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:29 PM
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As long as they're not trying to manipulate me into thinking they're something they're not, I'm good. As your examples show, I think women are more pressured by society to take care of their looks than men, and that's not fair. So I'm not going to expect her to do things I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:34 PM
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Unfortunately, being two consenting adults doesn't mean the brain is protected from any damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:58 PM
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Yes. As a guy, though, I'd usually identify as an ally. Some feminist women say that men can't be feminists. But, honestly, I don't care that much about the label. It's the ideology and actions behind it that matter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:20 PM
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Well, being strangled is just as bad as strangling someone. https://theconversation.com/choking-during-sex-many-young-people-mistakenly-believe-it-can-be-done-safely-our-study-shows-248867 https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jul/25/fatal-hateful-rise-of-choking-during-sex https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2573025/ https://theconversation.com/more-than-half-of-australian-young-people-are-using-strangulation-during-sex-new-research-231269 Equality is great, but why not be equal by lift…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:11 PM
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Yes, I totally understand. It's messed up to get off on women suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 08:59 PM
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Good, then. In any case, I can't be attracted to women who lack self-respect. Strangulation is hot. Sure, and neurological damage is great, too, right? By the time you have regrets, it's already too late. It's better to live a life that minimizes the risk of regretting anything you've done or experienced. u/Saturn-Returns-Real If you don't mind, I'd appreciate it if you could share your perspective. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 08:55 PM
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Yes, and the women in porn videos are often victims of various forms of abuse, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 08:35 PM
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Hey, sorry, but I'm not going to pick you 😒. You really need to look into the effects of strangulation because I wasn't joking when I said it's dangerous. It's like playing Russian roulette.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 08:27 PM
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I guess it's because in a lot of porn, women are treated like sexual objects. It's really degrading towards women (like facials). There's no emphasis on consent (actually, that's even quite the opposite). Some of the acts performed are actually dangerous, like strangulation. So, it could be that the guy doesn't see women as people, but it could also be how he'd treat her in bed if they were together.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 08:12 PM
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I have been on the internet long enough to see what some men think about women. I feel you, lol. I mean, on this sub alone, over 90% of men hold very toxic views of women and aren't shy about letting us know. Even on more general subs, they're often cesspools of misogyny. That being said, do you think the proportion of men with these views is roughly the same in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 01:03 AM
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Honestly, I'm not really sure. But yes, I imagine she's probably not very confident. Besides, she's likely a tradwife who willingly submits to men. A "real" woman (strong and independent) would not tolerate negging or anything like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:18 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickup_artist Basically, men who use various manipulative tricks (such as negging) to seduce women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:13 PM
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Fair enough. That seems consistent with the manipulative behaviors that are typically recommended in the manosphere. A red-pilled man told me that he was able to secure a girlfriend he'll marry soon by using the tricks they recommended. Even if that were true, I imagine I wouldn't be interested in the kind of women who are susceptible to these tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:05 PM
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Has he used "Pick-Up Artist (PUA)" techniques on you? If so, then I can clearly understand why you ended the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:32 PM
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Most men are not that smart. Thanks OP for reminding us of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:36 PM
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Obviously, it's because the female surgeons are not that smart, unlike the male ones! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:27 PM
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It seems the post title is actually misleading...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:13 PM
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Did you realize that the overall number of men and women is basically the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:56 PM
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LMAO. When women stop cheating on their husbands and BFs with my fboy friends. When women stop hitting on me in front of their SOs. When my mid friends actually start getting laid or in a relationship with non run-through hoes. When all that happens we can start talking about TRP being wrong. It's clear that you're not making moral judgments about them....
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:10 PM
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So, are you implying that most women are in relationships with... other women? Otherwise, your claim makes absolutely no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:51 PM
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I like your posts! And I'm not being sarcastic. Too many women try to cater to men, in my opinion. Especially here, where 90% of the men are awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:17 PM
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Would you date guys like Sheldon or Leonard from The Big Bang Theory? 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:46 AM
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Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but I reported a vile comment on here from another post, and the comment is still there: https://np.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Foi2i68vq570f1.png Could you please confirm whether this kind of comment is allowed here? I hope not!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:36 AM
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I've been called a misandrist on here, lol. From now on, though, I'll take it as a compliment!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:26 AM
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I guess that says a lot about the men here... Anyway, I noticed it as well. Incidentally, it's a comment I reported, yet it's still there 😒 : https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1kqmacx/comment/mt74z32/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:16 AM
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Exactly! It's as if most men here use this sub as a punching bag to express their hatred of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:11 PM
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This subreddit is truly a cesspool of misogyny. It's no wonder most of these men have trouble finding a dating partner. https://np.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Foi2i68vq570f1.png 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:07 PM
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“To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex (fucking exclusively with the other sex, i.e., women). All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight men reserve exclusively for other men. The people whom they admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom they imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honor, reverence and l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:41 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome Be careful when taking 5-HTP with other drugs or health supplements. For example, tramadol, an opioid commonly used to treat moderate pain, also boosts serotonin levels (it also acts as an SNRI). Do you have difficulty focusing in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:47 PM
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Cheers! That looks like an interesting read.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:32 PM
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Serotonin does not really help with motivation, at least not directly. In fact, it can have the opposite effect. 5-HTP is generally available over the counter. It usually has fewer side effects than SSRIs. However, you should never combine it with another supplement or drug that boosts serotonin, as you could risk developing serotonin syndrome, which can be lethal! Stimulants generally work much better for motivation by boosting dopamine and noradrenaline. However, they typically require a presc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:27 PM
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Oh, I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:18 PM
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Yes, interviews with former romantic partners. They have certainly experienced their former Evil Pill partner's DT traits firsthand. Self-identified redpillers are going to report success Of course they are, lol. "TRP men consistently displayed self‐interest and willingness to use manipulation to meet their needs, portraying themselves to their partners and the world as successful while callously disregarding partners' emotions in their pursuit of sex or social desirability." In their view, how …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:17 PM
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Okay, so you definitely have good male friends! 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:09 PM
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Have you tried 5-HTP? I believe it could help curb both your appetite and your anxiety. Just don't mix it with an SSRI.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:00 PM
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If I were gay, I'd say 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:53 PM
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<image> Simply click on the pencil.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:50 PM
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Because I suspect this study demonstrates that TRP is toxic nonsense. I think it would be interesting to have more details.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:47 PM
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Did you at least read the abstract?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:28 PM
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https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/pere.12557 It would be interesting to see the full study. This is certainly not the type of study that is routinely promoted here. I wonder why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:17 PM
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I mean, maybe they mentioned 4B more often at first, but that doesn't mean a lot of women were seriously considering joining the movement back then. Initially, it was mostly done to advertise the movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:26 PM
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"did not last long" Yes, that's what she said. Bad taste joke aside, I still see women posting on the 4B subreddit, so I guess its popularity is lasting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:19 PM
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So, instead, should we rely on cherry-picked (or disingenuous, as in your case) elements from studies that suit the narrative of red- or black-pilled men? Only 30.3% of women and 20.3% of men born from 1990-1994 were married by age 25 Why do you think there is a gender difference that you voluntarily chose to ignore? Perhaps it's because husbands are, on average, older than their wives when they marry. Using the same cutoff age for both genders naturally results in a higher rate for married wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:52 PM
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I'd actually be very happy. From my perspective, there are only pros to sleeping in separate rooms. If my prospective partner insisted on sharing the same bed all the time, that would be a deal breaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:57 PM
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I'm not sure that's what he implied. For the record, he had some wild views with which I vehemently disagreed. However, I know that men tend to listen more to other men than to women. Similarly, I assume that boys listen more to their father than their mother. This isn't necessarily because they're misogynists, as in the previous example about grown men, but simply because they identify more closely with their father than with their mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:59 PM
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So you are nothing more than a misogynist devoid of rational basis, am I right? I said this: Not always, but don't insinuate that mothers abandon their children more often than fathers do. To which you replied with this: Mothers are initiating majority of divorces and get the custody in the most cases. You implied that, since women initiate divorces more often than men, they are to blame for becoming single mothers. However, you deliberately omitted the fact that their reasons for initiating div…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:44 PM
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[1/2] https://www.whitleylawfirmpc.com/3-reasons-why-women-initiate-divorce-more-often-than-men/ https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20220511-why-women-file-for-divorce-more-than-men https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200121-why-promoted-women-are-more-likely-to-divorce https://divorce.com/blog/who-initiates-divorce-more/ https://prowsebarrette.com/5-reasons-women-initiate-divorce/ https://traceymillerfamilylaw.co.uk/blog/survey-reveals-top-10-reasons-women-divorce-their-partners-liverpool-…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:34 PM
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Nope. That was just a counterexample to your insinuation that women are to blame for initiating divorces...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 06:57 PM
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I’m not sure if it has to do with you being on the spectrum, but you don't exactly come across as a "nice guy." I'm putting it mildly because I don't want to be rude, though I also try not to be hypocritical. Perhaps this is a case of the double empathy problem. If so, it might make more sense for you to focus on dating neurodivergent or autistic people, who might relate to your perspective better. That said, as others have pointed out, social skills typically play a major role in romantic relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 06:47 PM
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I don't know, otherwise I wouldn't be asking you... It's just weird that you beat around the bush like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 06:31 PM
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What exactly do you need, then? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:57 PM
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Yes, because they clearly have an agenda. For example, they believe that a family must have both a father and a mother. As a cishet man, I'm not opposed to that per se. However, I also believe that children with two parents of the same sex can do just as well as those with two "traditional" parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:28 PM
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Bad news for all the Alpha Men: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-86974-0
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:04 PM
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If I were married and my partner treated me badly, I would certainly want a divorce. The gender that initiates divorce more often is irrelevant. The reason a married person seeks a divorce is far more informative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:57 PM
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Not always, but don't insinuate that mothers abandon their children more often than fathers do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:52 PM
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I appreciate the attempt at persuasion, but I'm afraid it's not going to work. Proselytism detected 🤢.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:48 PM
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<image> Sure, misandry...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:53 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:50 PM
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Yes, that's correct. However, there are definitely some criteria for which a lot of men have a strong preference, and I think this is one of them. For example, it wouldn't surprise me if this were true for most men who voted for Trump, although it's probably not limited to them. And more men voted for Trump than for Harris.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 12:16 PM
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https://futurism.com/cognitive-decay-ai Also, before ChatGPT, I tended to be slightly lazy, but now I'm more tempted to outsource tasks that I would have otherwise completed myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:31 AM
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Most men do not want smart or successful women, they feel insecure and challenged by women who are more successful than them especially. Men almost always chase women that do not challenge their fragile ego. What are your thoughts? That's a man's comment on another sub. I'd say that's one of the reasons they hate feminists and prefer tradwives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:21 AM
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I think they should either date each other or get sex dolls, since that's how they view women. Either way is fine with me as long as they don't breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:18 PM
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I completely agree with you. It's disturbing that so many men here hate women yet long for relationships with them. If they want to treat a woman like a sex doll, why not just buy a sex doll? They're so indoctrinated by the manosphere that they only want to hear things that confirm their biases. For the most part, it's not even a debate sub. They ask women for their opinions just to dismiss them right away because their answers are usually not what these men want to read. Sure, dating is hard fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:03 PM
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Could you describe your imaginary perfect wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:11 PM
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That's when you realize that a lot of men are really bad. I mean, how else could they defend the horrible behavior of their fellow man? And a man they don't even know, lol. It's really sad that the brotherhood is so toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 12:11 PM
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I guess women could return the compliment and rightly say that you seem to have very little empathy for women so you're unaware of what their lives are actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 12:03 PM
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I swear, I should not spend too much time here, otherwise I might become a misandrist, lol. Basically, this is what this sub looks like most of the time: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:59 AM
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Yes, it's clearly the men. I rarely if ever hear "single cat ladies" complain, let alone whine like many men here, most of whom are probably single.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:51 AM
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Off the top of my head, I'd add these: - Walking or doing anything in public without being catcalled (most men seem to conveniently forget that no attention is still better than unwanted attention). - Being able to use vocal communication in team-based video games without being harassed just because you happen to be a girl/woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:36 AM
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While I agree with a lot of things from feminism, I think the label is incredibly counter-productive to conversations with a lot of people. Feminism simply has a horrible reputation among a lot of people, and bearing that label comes with so much insane, bizarre baggage that the label itself completely shuts down any possible productive or reasonable conversation. It is counterproductive mainly because a lot of people - mostly men - are anti-feminists. They're also not egalitarians. And the mano…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:12 PM
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Admittedly, "miss" was maybe not the best choice of word, so "regret never having experienced this era" is possibly more appropriate? But honestly, that doesn't really change my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 07:14 PM
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You always have the option to stay single. No one is forcing you to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 06:14 PM
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After all, it's just a meme. That doesn't mean they don't have some truth to them, but it's not a manual, lol. Just a fun thing to get back at men who think women shouldn't dress provocatively right. Well, if you can't control yourself, that's your problem. I don't know why that's so hard to grasp. So, what do you suggest we call people like you? Maybe a cleavage / skirt cop?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:23 PM
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Now I see where you're coming from. And I understand that desperation is not a good position to be in. It is true, unfortunately, that some negative experiences as children/teenagers can have lasting nefarious effects well into adulthood. Even before, as some of them have committed irreparable acts after being bullied in schools and on social media. Wanna see the best of Capitalism + Ads? https://futurism.com/facebook-beauty-targeted-ads ☠️☠️☠️ Or how to make young girls even more insecure... If…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:08 PM
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Yes, it's probably not meant to be taken literally. The idea behind it is to put the blame on the person, presumably a guy in this case, who calls the woman a slut. I mean, why would you care how some random woman is dressed? That said, I'm interested to hear what you propose to replace R*ist with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:42 PM
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Huge 🚩🚩🚩 indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:35 PM
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I imagine that Not All R*pist care how their potential victim is dressed. Some might and some might not. Do you really think that every subset of people has a hive mind? Even then, how would caring about how a potential victim is dressed mean that the would-be perpetrator would not seek control by R*ping their victim? I just don't see the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:28 PM
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Well, Red and apparently some Purple Pilled men will always find an excuse to call a woman a slut or a whore. And this was just one example. Is that consistent enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:17 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:05 PM
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Telling someone to "cry and whine" is not very nice, but it is nowhere near as offensive as calling someone an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 03:34 PM
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Yeah, I might start reporting those kinds of comments from now on. I mean, if they're going to report my comments just for being critical, it's only fair that I report their insults. And that's actually what I was implying in the last sentence of my previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:13 PM
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I can DM you a link to the comment where I was called an asshole if you want? I mean, it's not like I saved the comments where I saw someone call a woman a whore or a slut...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:01 PM
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I don't mind that telling someone they're "playing the victim and making excuses" is removed because it's not civil, I mean fair enough. However, I'm a little disappointed that being called an a$$hole is apparently considered civil. Same with women being called "whores", "sluts" and so on in comments. And it's not like that happens infrequently. As for the misogynistic posts, they seem to be no problem either. So is civil defined in light of The Red Pill ideology? And a word to the wise: Men wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 12:46 PM
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Talk about (aspiring) R*pists: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1kguiih/comment/mr5g1xn/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 12:23 PM
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Okay, thanks for your detailed answer. I'm really sorry that you were abused and harassed. Yes, I know that Red Pillers claim that women have plenty of options. But my view is different because I readily admit that quantity does not guarantee quality. So basically, you had low self-esteem and confidence, and men just saw an opportunity to take advantage of your vulnerability, right? That's predatory behavior, if you ask me. I just realized that TRP relies on PUA techniques to seduce women and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:55 AM
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Well, if I were a heterosexual woman, it would be out of the question to consider dating over 90% of the men here. Do you seriously think I know how tall they are or what their faces look like? Of course not. But I do know that they would treat me like shit because I'm a woman. I've seen a few so-called "ugly" incels, and I swear I could never tell they were incels just by looking at their picture of themselves. They looked average or slightly above average, far from being "ugly" as they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:26 AM
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I said for sex or relationships with customized dolls I think that's what he really meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:38 PM
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Look, blaming the victim is the last thing I want to do. That said, another woman and I were wondering why so many women don't dump their BF when they treat their GF so badly? I mean, I have no doubt that they are lying, but since actions speak louder than words, why not dump him as soon as a red flag is noticed?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:19 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if you were the one who downvoted my comment. That's why I can understand why this comment set you off so much. Maybe you're the one who needs help.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:28 PM
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That's why I encourage women to raise their standards, so they’re left with no other choice but me 😄. Joke aside, I think a lot of men who complain that "modern women" have standards that are "too high" are really just nostalgic for a time when women had no choice but to rely on a man’s income to survive. Sure, back then, many women stayed in relationships regardless of how badly they were treated, because they had no realistic alternative. If a man misses that era, I sincerely hope no woman eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:20 PM
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I also don't think that the vast majority of men are rapists. But there are too many of them. And contrary to popular belief, many rapes are actually committed by seemingly normal men: they do a wide range of jobs, they could be your neighbor, one of your co-workers, maybe one of your friends, and so on. And it's also wrong to assume that the overwhelming majority of rapes are committed by serial rapists: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/z4Wo8IZoey
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:28 AM
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You're not entirely wrong - this kind of approach would have no effect on serial rapists, for instance. But let’s be clear: most rapes aren't the result of long-term planning by someone fantasizing about it for years. A large number are impulsive or opportunistic, committed in the moment when the perpetrator sees a chance to exploit someone’s vulnerability. That’s exactly why giving women 'safety tips' misses the point entirely. It shifts responsibility onto potential victims instead of addressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:11 AM
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Do you know what one of the most painful ways to die is? Well, it's being burned alive. I don't think I've ever heard of a wild animal setting a person on fire. But there are several cases of men setting women on fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:48 AM
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? It's usually tips for women. But that sounds like victim blaming to me. Besides, tips like "women should dress modestly" don't stop these women from being R*d. So it's time to hold men accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:02 PM
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<image> Tips... for men. I suppose only would-be R*ists would downvote this, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:55 PM
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This study is also interesting, I think: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1740144505000033 And it comes to a conclusion that is consistent with the results of the studies you mentioned. Another non-scientific article, but still a good one ("But women are lying when they say they don't prefer the hyper-muscular guys!"): https://nataliaantonova.substack.com/p/this-internet-poll-is-breaking-mens
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:51 PM
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A bear's first reaction upon detecting a human is to run away. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_attack#Causes Yes, so this basically confirms what the Guardian article said. Take a man and a woman of average size, height, and strength for their respective genders. What is the odds that the woman will win a fight against an aggressive man?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:49 PM
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Did you read the article I shared with you? Humans are considered apex predators by most other predators. Most just run away when they hear humans talking calmly, lol. But unfortunately, that certainly won't work with a Ted Bundy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:28 PM
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I really don't understand why so many men think that being "firendzoned" is a bad thing. After all, if you start a relationship as friends, you are expected to stay friends. And I think female friends are just as valuable as male friends, if not more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:24 PM
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I braced myself before checking the notification because usually the first response I get to this kind of comment is "bait" or "cringe".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:55 PM
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<image> In case you haven't noticed, this is a double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:50 PM
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Yes, but it's easier to outsmart a bear than a human with bad intentions... And bears don't usually think of humans as potential prey. As long as you don't fuck with with their food or offspring, bears have no reason to attack a human. Most animals are actually afraid of humans: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/oct/05/scaredy-cats-wild-animals-fear-humans-more-than-lions-study-aoe
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:46 PM
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The premise of this question is that the woman would be alone in the woods, with only one man. If you ignore this aspect, it is not surprising that the choice of the bear may sound absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:11 PM
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Yes, but bears rarely, if ever, kill for the sake of killing or out of cruelty. They won't try to R* the woman either. And so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:49 AM
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I made a similar post a few days ago, just stating facts. Well, many Red & Black Pillers basically accused me of using inflammatory language, lol. Well, I guess those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:42 AM
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They do it all the time, lol. Such a double standard to pretend to be offended by your post, but not the 90% of posts and comments that constantly degrade women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:11 AM
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Based. I really wish more women would come to the same realization that you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:06 AM
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But that's the problem, the perpetrators are rarely prosecuted in practice. And yes, that's probably why it doesn't have the deterrent effect we might have expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:12 AM
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So can death by man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:06 AM
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Fair enough, you seem to be engaging in good faith. That said, and I understand this can be difficult for many men to fully grasp, I genuinely believe you're underestimating how even seemingly ordinary interactions can make women nervous and trigger a survival response. For example, I'm pretty sure most women would feel at least some level of unease if a random man were walking behind them on a sidewalk at night - or even during the day if the area was deserted. It's a bit like how I feel when I…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:56 AM
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Yes, but while bears have no morals, they are probably not as evil as some men. They usually kill to eat or to protect their offspring, not just for "fun" or out of cruelty, unlike some sick men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:04 AM
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You don’t even know me. Because you, on the other hand, know me? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:00 AM
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My point - which I thought was pretty obvious - is that not all violent men are in prison. And conversely, the ones who are behind bars are simply the ones who got caught. The implication is: many didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:57 PM
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I can see that there is some thought in your answer. Probably the first one I found well reasoned, so thank you for taking the time to read the article and answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:36 PM
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It may not make sense to you because it is a thought-provoking question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:31 PM
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No, but this comment is for people like you. Glad you stumbled upon it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:24 PM
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No, they are only in jail because they finally got caught, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:23 PM
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If men actually protected women instead of attacking or murdering them, women would not choose the bear...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:20 PM
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Maybe. But consider that many men would act differently if they were alone in the woods with a woman. The feeling of impunity removes any "moral" brakes for some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:16 PM
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Call it what you will. The thing is, it's virtually impossible to make a man aware of all the safety issues that primarily affect women in just 10 minutes, especially if he was clueless about the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:27 PM
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Maybe if he had to choose between a bear or another man to share a cell with in prison, he would choose the bear, lol? This is what these men don't get: most aggressor/violent men often look and act perfectly normal most of the time. Well, except when they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:17 PM
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On average, men are stronger, faster, heavier, and taller than women. (But not smarter.) Just facts. Not taking this into account when answering the question is disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:12 PM
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So what do the statistics say? That men are safe for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:08 PM
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IMHO, most men don’t get it because: They lack empathy for women. They have no idea how unsafe the world can feel when you're living your life as a woman because of ignorance and misconceptions. They fall back on misogynistic assumptions: believing women are irrational or hysterical, so if they’d choose the bear, it must be because they’re not thinking straight. And of course, in their minds, men are inherently more logical, so they clearly know better what women should do. Some might accept tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:06 PM
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Well, it probably is for guys like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:49 PM
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I bet you didn't even bother to read the article... So I won't bother answering your uneducated response.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:46 PM
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What, are you going to start having nightmares about bears now?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:44 PM
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How about I eat popcorn while you read the article? 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:37 PM
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Username checks out!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:50 PM
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Men who think that way are misogynistic. They want a slave, not an equal partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:20 PM
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And also... patriarchy!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:16 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:15 PM
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Don't worry, I'm going to find another one just for you ^^
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:07 PM
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The men who complain that women's standards are "too high" usually say that because their own bar is so low, they know they'll never meet the criteria. It's like an athlete complaining that Olympic qualifying standards are too high - fair enough, but if you can't meet them, maybe you just don't belong there. The same goes for these men. And if they really believe that no woman has what they consider "reasonable" standards, well... maybe they should consider dating each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:45 PM
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<image> Guys, please remember this 🠝 🠙 And if you think this is either a bait or a cringe comment, then this message is especially for you! 😉 It's never too late to educate yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:38 PM
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What evidence, lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:10 PM
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Yes, it's called natural selection 😊.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 11:08 PM
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Why? Do they want to set quotas too? 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 11:02 PM
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If a red/black pilled dude disagrees with something I said, it must be because I baited him, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:57 PM
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No, this has never happened to me. And no male friend, colleague, or relative has told me anything like that. MRAs are so disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:43 PM
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I think the mods should really implement quotas for red and black pilled people (let's face it, it's mostly men). No more than 1 red/black pilled person for every blue pilled person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:39 PM
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Basically anything that puts the blame on the victim. And a lot of men do that when women are R*d.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:02 PM
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Haha, so you're telling me I've been looking in the wrong ecosystems all along. Fair enough, maybe it's time for me to step out of my bubble and check out those kinds of events. Thanks for the advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:59 PM
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And where exactly do you find women like that out in the wild, lol? Maybe I was just really unlucky when I tried dating sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:16 PM
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In indeed, if they had better things to talk about, they probably wouldn't be talking behind people's backs. Also, I think that for example, if you have some genuine complaints about a colleague, it's probably better to tell them face to face (diplomatically), otherwise how do you expect them to improve? Sometimes the person is not even aware that they are doing something that other people don't like (not always true, of course). People who often do this probably lack maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:03 PM
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Ah ok, lol. And are you an asshole just to get back at someone? Or even when it's unwarranted?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:39 PM
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Ah, okay. Well, I guess it might be easier to stay childfree then? I thought, but it's just a hypothesis, that childfree is more common among lesbians?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:37 PM
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Oh, you'd be way too young for me then, lol. I'm in my late 30s. I know some men here don't see a problem with a man dating a woman 35 years younger than him, but I for one think a 10 year gap is already pretty big. But maybe I was born too early for that kind of mindset :( . For example, I think younger people are more likely to be childfree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:33 PM
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Fair enough. Well, I guess some men do that, too. But yeah, I don't like that kind of behavior either, especially when it goes to the point of becoming a hipocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:25 PM
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Like being hypocritical? Or maybe being an asshole to yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:21 PM
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Do you also check "childfree"? Because that's actually what I meant, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:18 PM
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Oh, btw, I actually meant "childfree", not "childless". My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:12 PM
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My bad, I was talking about all those criteria, not just smoking and drinking. And sorry, I actually meant "childfree", not "childless".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:09 PM
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Haha, thank you! Maybe one day I'll find her, who knows! I guess it's even more difficult for women who have similar criteria to mine. So in theory, it should be easier for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:06 PM
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My bad, I actually meant "childfree", not "childless", sorry. I'll edit my original message, but now I imagine the number of potentially close matches would be even lower, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:01 PM
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Basically, if she is both a feminist and an environmentalist, that would work for me. So I probably interpreted the definition pretty loosely.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:56 PM
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So that's pretty close. I guess there should be a little more women than men who would meet those criteria, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:52 PM
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Can I ask you how you met?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:48 PM
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Oh, I guess you meant in case of marriage? The thing is, I'm not really in favor of marrying someone. So my partner wouldn't have to change her last name. And marriage doesn't stop people from breaking up anyway. However, where I live, I believe that married people can both keep their family name if they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:47 PM
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Yes, I agree with you. Tbh, I don't mind being single and I'd rather stay that way than be with someone who's not right for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:40 PM
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Indeed, and I guess the list is not even complete, lol. But yeah, unlike a lot of guys, I'd rather be alone than have a partner who doesn't match my preferences well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:38 PM
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That's not too far off. Are you still a progressive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:35 PM
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That would be almost parfait, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:32 PM
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Yeah, probably very low in both cases. Maybe even lower for men, lol. I guess I'll have to start adopting cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:31 PM
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Quick Relationship Quiz How many women meet these criteria? - Is childless childfree - Is an ecofeminist - Is scientific/logical/rational - Is still an independent woman in a relationship - Takes care of herself (eats a healthy and balanced diet, exercises regularly, and avoids alcohol, smoking, and drugs) - Is honest, respectful and faithful - Is kind, reciprocal, and pragmatic But don't take it as a proposal, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:10 PM
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I'm single, but not really looking for a partner right now. However, if I were, I'd probably be looking for a woman who: - Is child-free - Is progressive (I guess an ecofeminist would be a good fit for me) - Ideally has some common hobbies/interests - Must be an independent woman, as I also like to spend time on my own - Would take care of herself (eat a healthy and balanced diet, exercise regularly, and avoid alcohol, smoking, or drugs) - Is honest, respectful and faithful - Is kind and recipro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:55 PM
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Dude, seriously, stop playing the victim. And don't expect me to be sympathetic to incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:47 PM
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Who’s blaming women? Oh, definitely you. No doubt about it, lol. Women react far more negatively to men they’re not attracted to than genders reversed scenario Yeah… that’s not even close to my experience. Most women can actually take “no” with grace. Can’t say the same for a lot of men, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:11 PM
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You’re asking men to be happy single and celibate. Well, I mean, that's one option on the table. Now, if they'd rather be single and bitter about it, that's on them - there’s not much I can do about that. I’m telling you that single women aren’t celibate so sex is important to them. If sex wasn’t important, single women would remain celibate Lol, that sounds like BS. I’d wager more single women aren’t having sex than those who are. But if you have solid evidence to back up your claim, I’m all ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:03 PM
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I don't think most women are in LTRs primarily for sex, dude... Maybe that's why women don't want you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:46 AM
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I think his misogyny is what holds him back tbh. He seems to keep blaming women instead of looking in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:43 AM
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I just took a well-known guy who looked normal to show you that it can be quite difficult to know people's real motives and intentions. What would be the point of mentioning someone you've never heard of?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:12 AM
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Well, you can always choose to stay single on purpose or become single at any time. It's clearly an option in the sense that it's a possibility that you can choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:14 PM
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<image> Do you guys see the irony? I'm not asking the ladies, because I'm sure they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:32 PM
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💯
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:03 PM
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Flirting and teasing are not bullying as long as the men involved can take "no" or "stop" for an answer. Unfortunately, not all of them do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:47 PM
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Men actually have a pretty simple option: be a happy single guy 😉. And best of all, it's an option that's available 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:37 PM
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Do you think Ted Bundy was easy to spot as an abuser/killer? And that it was obvious to everyone who crossed his path that he was an evil psychopath?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:30 PM
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Because they lack empathy, turn a blind eye to statistics, think most women are lying when they accuse a man of SA or R*, have no idea what a woman's life might be like, and so on. That's why very few men understand why most women choose the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:17 PM
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Oh, I meant strict before the relationship started lol. But I guess you could have found out later that they could have lied directly or by omission.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:33 PM
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True. Do you have strict standards yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:07 AM
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I think that's where I disagree. You seem to think only in terms of "attraction". But you clearly underestimate that some traits or characters can also be repulsive to people, especially women. If you go on a first date and make a "misogynistic joke", you've probably shot yourself in the foot with most women, regardless of your looks, charisma, and whatnot. Looks are often used as a pre-filter for both genders because they're easy and don't take much time to evaluate. On the other hand, some tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:39 PM
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Yes, you're right. But are you for the status quo?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:16 PM
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I'm not saying that "all men = bad" and "all women = good". Still, on average, I feel like in heterosexual relationships, it's more often the man who treats the woman badly than the other way around. Like domestic violence, cheating, leaving the partner to do most of the housework, and so on. So I guess there's more incentive for women to boycott relationships than for us men. And even if they don't boycott them entirely, they could easily make their standards stricter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:11 PM
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OK, I take it you definitely haven't joined the 4B movement, or maybe you're not aware of its existence (but I doubt it...)? ^^
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:05 PM
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Yes, I agree with you. I also think that women should be less accepting of men's shitty behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:02 PM
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Well, I suppose it's expected that looks play a more important role in the early stages of a relationship. But pretending that looks are enough for a successful LTR, as some men believe, is pure BS. Most women won't keep you around as a BF/husband if your looks are the only thing working in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:42 PM
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You dismissed the question as just a cheeky joke or harmless jab, but that reaction overlooks why it resonated with so many women. It wasn’t about trolling or making fun of men, it emerged because a surprising number of women genuinely feel safer around a wild animal than an unknown man. That isn’t about taking things too seriously; it’s about how common and deep-rooted that fear is. The fact that this even became a debate is the point: it revealed a gap in how men and women experience the world…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:36 PM
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Lol, it is weird to be so demanding when all you had to offer was a YT video xD Did you seriously expect RCTs over 20 years for this kind of thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:54 PM
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Well, it is certainly less useless than your YT link 😉. That said, if you want to educate yourself, here you go: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/19485506241287960
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:49 PM
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Nice then! Welcome new friend 😎. Rumor has it that a red-pilled man was looking for a remote and deserted island for himself and his friends: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1kcc8d1/comment/mq1x8ap/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:43 PM
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Looking for a secluded island where Red Pill men can gather? Preferably without internet access, I guess that's better for the rest...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:38 PM
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So your future wife also admitted to choosing you just for your looks? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:33 PM
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Yeah, I think that unfortunately most men are more or less misogynistic. At least all the ones who get mad, laugh and so on when women say they'd rather choose the bear, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:11 PM
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I know I'm not going to make many friends by saying this, lol, but given that women generally do much better than men on their own, I think it would be in their best interest to have higher standards than they currently have on average. If you reject, say, at least 9 out of 10 men, they'll either have to really change... or learn to stay single forever. And they'll soon be forced to realize that TRP is complete BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:05 PM
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It doesn't really seem like the Red Pill men here are successful, considering how often they tend to complain... And I suppose most men are just blue pilled, but you just don't hear them whining like the red ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:29 PM
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At least all Red & Black Pilled men. Maybe they are suitable to date each other, who knows...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:51 PM
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Yes, and that is clearly a problem in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:25 PM
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Seriously, can you stop spewing misogynistic stereotypes all the time? It's really exhausting. And then you dare to call this a "debate", wtf. Women don't fucking have hive minds! It's like saying: "Men pretend to be looking for love, but they're really just looking for hookups!" Sure, it's true for some, but it's disingenuous to imply that it's an inherently male trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:11 PM
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AOC= Age of Consent But maybe that supporting an AOC of 12 years is also not a horrible action to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:31 PM
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💯
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:22 PM
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It's when women are asked if they'd rather be alone in the woods with a man or a bear. Suppose they choose the lovely bear! What do you think of their choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:59 PM
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OK, so women must have a hive mind, right? Hope I made your week now!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:55 PM
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The thing is, many of the sterilization methods that have recently become more widely used by women are irreversible. So let's say a woman gets one at 22, and the average age for a woman to have her first child is 27 (that's just an example and doesn't really affect my argument): I think you'd have to wait 5 years before you'd see the effects reflected in the statistics. That's a moderately long time, sure, but there's no reason for these women to change their minds in the meantime. Besides, as …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:53 PM
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OP, what do you think about the bear hypothesis? Please explain why you think what you think. Just be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:34 PM
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Yes, there's likely to be some lag time between this decision and the decline in birth rates. But since Trump's re-election, more and more women have joined the 4B movement, and sterilization rates among women have increased after the Supreme Court's abortion ruling. That's why I said it would have the opposite effect on birth rates: https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/sterilization-rates-among-women-rose-after-supreme-court-abortion-ruling
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:08 PM
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Same here. I always feel so embarrassed when someone tells me they just had a baby. The thing is, if I keep quiet, they usually take it badly. But the feeling of being forced to be a hypocrite is terrible for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:28 PM
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Thanks, I'm pretty sure I'll make good use of it sooner or later...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:18 PM
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<image> I guess a lot of people here just have a preference for H2O.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:47 PM
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I really appreciated your analysis. However, I suspect that the reversal of ROE V. WADE was still primarily an attack on women. I'm not American, but I think the result was clearly not positive if their goal was to increase the birth rate, because I don't think it worked. But as you said, there are factors that are far more important for a couple to seriously consider having children in the first place. And even what you mentioned won't be enough for people who want to remain childless for envir…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:54 PM
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??? I thought it was obvious that if you don't post about your so-called "friendzoning" experience anywhere, then you might not be complaining about it? I said "might" because they could still be whining about it offline... Anyway, I did not say that all men act this way. Just that there are still too many of them complaining about being "friendzoned". And mentioning Reddit is definitely enough to prove my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:25 PM
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Lol, just look it up on Reddit. Here are some examples though: https://np.reddit.com/r/ask/comments/1hx94i2/how_do_i_stop_getting_friendzoned/ https://np.reddit.com/r/Friendzone/comments/1cthge5/a_girl_friendzoned_me_should_i_completely_cut_off/ https://np.reddit.com/r/Friendzone/comments/1cu177f/friendzoned_by_coworker_and_now_i_am_depressed/ https://np.reddit.com/r/Friendzone/comments/1htsj43/confessed_to_a_girl_got_friendzoned/ There are probably hundreds of posts like this, I'm not going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:10 PM
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People are individuals, of course. But that doesn't mean that there can't be some trends for some things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:00 PM
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But that's exactly what most guys who claim to have been "friendzoned" do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:56 PM
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Well, in my opinion, it is clearly problematic to complain and find it abnormal that the relationship did not develop into more than a mere friendship...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:40 PM
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When guys whine about being "friendzoned," I find it very disingenuous of them. I mean, if you start a relationship as friends with someone - male or female - you are usually expected to just stay friends, right? I mean, that should be the rule, not the exception. It's also funny that so many men complain about the "male loneliness epidemic" while at the same time seeing friendship with a woman as something so horrible that they'd rather throw it in the trash. Also, you're supposedly heartbroken…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:30 PM
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More often than not, when a guy claims that what he just said isn't misogynistic, well, it clearly is... Just an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:30 PM
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Yes, that was my point. Let's say you're watching a first date between a man and a woman from a distance: you think the man is "ugly" and quickly notice that the woman ends the date. You might conveniently assume that she was disappointed that he didn't look like a Chad, and that's why it's game over for him... But maybe he just said something she didn't like? Like showing he was misogynistic? So if you focus more on her than on him, that could very well distort reality. That's what I was sugges…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:26 PM
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Lol, except that if you look at the woman's reaction in isolation, i.e. without considering what the man's action (in a broad sense) was that caused that very reaction, it is meaningless...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:58 AM
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In dating, you could also look at how men behave. Maybe that would give you a more relevant insight into what works and what does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:41 AM
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Oh, glad to learn that you actually watch the women of PPD in real life. You basically just admitted that you're a stalker, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:35 AM
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Not necessarily believing everything and all the time what someone might say, but right now it's more like believing nothing they say is true. It's like most of you assume that women lie all the time... Let's say you ask women about their preference for physical appearance in men. If most of them tell you they prefer a dad bod to a bodybuilder, why not trust them? Same thing if they tell you they don't like a big penis because it hurts them during intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:31 AM
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Because you supposedly know in real life the women who respond to you or other men here? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:17 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:13 AM
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Are you asking this question in good faith? I don't know, like justifying a heterosexual relationship with a 35-year age difference in favor of the man or defending an AOC of 12 years...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:12 AM
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No, women simply see how most men behave. After all, actions speak louder than words. Why do you think they would choose the bear?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:08 AM
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Like saying he wants to use the woman for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:50 AM
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Yes, the level of self-indoctrination seems to be sky high for some men. I heard that Spotify recently removed Tate's courses. I guess that's a step in the right direction, though I doubt it's enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:42 AM
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Imagine making a post without intending to check the replies because you suspect you might not read what you wanted to. /s Maybe a suggestion for women to consider. Just a thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:37 AM
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I think maybe what he meant was that he didn't condone, for example, cherry-picking facts that fit your narrative and discarding the rest of the study...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:01 AM
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It does indeed seem to be a lot like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:45 PM
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Let's assume for a moment that what you said is true. But why ask them in the first place then? I mean, just don't bother them and make them waste their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:43 PM
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Oh yeah, I agree with you 100%. My point was that porn is still a bad influence on a lot of men. Take choking, for example: it has been so normalized by porn that many men today will strangle their partners without asking their consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:38 PM
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That's the problem though, many men today have porn rotten brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:46 PM
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If you're alone, that means you don't have any friends either, right? Will you also claim that it's because you're supposedly "ugly"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:30 PM
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New account, lots of removed comments... well, nothing suspicious really. You must be a nice guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:13 PM
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More like: "I was never chosen despite being 32 years because I always was and still am a scumbag" But keep blaming women, we can see how well that worked out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:40 PM
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Good, then :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:33 PM
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Yes, any excuse will do, as long as it doesn't involve their personality/character.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:13 PM
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Sorry, I initially downvoted your comment thinking you were a man replying sarcastically (there are many on here, lol). But after a quick check of your comment history, I believe you're a woman commenting in good faith, so I upvoted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:02 PM
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And it is not enough for you to get just one woman? Besides, do you really think that most men in a relationship with a woman look like the one in the picture to the right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:23 PM
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<image> Yes, it's clearly because men project their own preferences for masculine physical appearance onto women. Basically, they say what their ideal male mate should look like so that they would hypothetically want to fuck him. Funny how often they ask for women's opinions on various things here, only to dismiss them when they finally get them. Sadly, most of them just don't take women at their word. This is why, IMHO, women shouldn't care what men think. Men don't care about your experiences …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:17 PM
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The problem is that the title of your post seems very misguided, even misleading, to be honest. And for people who aren't strictly heterosexual, maybe it's because they find heterosexual relationships repulsive? I'm not trying to excuse them. If they make it clear that it's just a matter of sexual preference, then I think it's okay. And if not, then calling them out seems perfectly appropriate to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:23 PM
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And male sexuality is seen as inherently disgusting, mainly by men. When incels call women "used toilets" because they've lost their virginity, they're implying that because they've had sex with other men, they're no longer as pure in their minds as virgin women. I honestly have no idea where you could have heard women spontaneously make such a claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:04 PM
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I edited my comment while you were replying to add more context.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:50 PM
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Let me fix the title of your post for you, OP: A significant amount of dating problems arise (from decades) of (widespread) misogyny. I agree with you that we as men need to work on changing our image. However, we'll certainly have more success by calling out misogynistic brothers than by playing the victim, and of course by treating women as human beings ourselves. Men also have an urgent need to educate themselves about women's issues. For example, if you and other men consider the bear hypoth…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:30 PM
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With all due respect, your husband sounds a bit bossy and not really into egalitarian relationships... However, if you eventually get used to this change and think it suits you, why not? But you might want to make sure that your husband doesn't try to increase his dominance over time. It might even be better to let him know sooner rather than later (preemptively). Similarly, it might be worth reevaluating the situation from time to time to see how things are going and if you're still happy with …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:37 PM
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Cringe, lol ➩ https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1k9kihp/comment/mpj7wyd/ And also: lame, bait Red-Pilled men will be Red-Pilled men I guess...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:24 PM
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💯 https://np.reddit.com/r/antinatalism/ In the meantime 😳: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/elon-musk-secret-plan-father-35127000
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:42 PM
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I think it was a mistake to post this with all the red pill men in here, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:45 PM
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Will you have the guts to ask the Red Pill guys what they think about hugging each other? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:41 PM
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Well, and I guess it also depends on where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:35 PM
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Oh, I in fact agree with you. But Not All Men do, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:31 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:30 PM
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You mean hugging between guys, right? If only that were the only thing men perceived as gay...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:28 PM
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<image> Based, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:15 PM
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Oh yeah, I noticed how easy it is for them to play the victim xD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:54 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:29 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:28 PM
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BP?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:17 PM
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Hmm, wonder what else hits big... 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:12 PM
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What if the women who orgasm during anal sex are the very ones who can orgasm during anal sex - and that's why they choose to do it? My point is: you obviously don't consider the rate of anal orgasms among women who don't engage in anal sex. And I seriously doubt that women try anal "by accident"; there must be reasons why they enjoy it - presumably because it's pleasurable for them. Also, the number of women who reported penile-vaginal intercourse is much higher than the number who reported ana…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:57 PM
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And they really wonder why on earth women would choose the bear by immediately proving you right 🙄.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:39 PM
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Oh, that's nice of you to list all the things they apparently left out, thanks! But you missed one: Interestingly, lesbians were more likely to report having multiple orgasms compared to heterosexual women. Is there any chance that you cherry picked what to leave out or not? Because I think this one's telling, but it doesn't exactly fit your narrative, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:32 PM
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<image> TW: Bear ⮭
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:18 PM
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Well, if you don't even want to bother getting her off, it would be easier to just use a Fleshlight, don't you think? In the meantime, men be like: "But I don't understand why women are less and less interested in relationships and even less in hookups...They should love having sex, especially with me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:18 PM
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Lol. And you obviously didn't get my message... Proof that Red Pilled men don't pick up on clues at all. Have you ever heard of the orgasm gap? It's not directed at you specifically - unfortunately, there are many other men like you. But basically what you are implying is that you treat women like sexual objects, nothing more. At the same time, you tend to blame "modern women" for making dating difficult for men: "What do they bring to the table?", you may ask. But the real question is, "What do…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:05 PM
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<image> Red Pilled men be like ⮭ Fr guys, you don't get it, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:48 PM
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Are there any men like that here? No, wait, I think I should ask the ladies directly: https://english.emmaclit.com/2017/05/20/you-shouldve-asked/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:28 PM
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Because these men obviously don't want a wife, they just want a maid/mother in order to do their part of the housework. Simple as that. But I guess the ladies didn't need me and figured it out on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:00 PM
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For real? Yeah, like all the time, especially in here!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:24 AM
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It was certainly not inflammatory, just facts gleaned from what your fellow RP dudes said. Now, if you want to imply that they sometimes make inflammatory comments, then yes, I could certainly agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:57 AM
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Yeah, I'm probably a bit of a sapiosexual as well. But honestly, I probably have stricter and more criteria than your average "modern woman" - which you already consider to have very high standards, lol. Finding the perfect match would be such a hassle that I eventually just gave up. Even when I was last in a relationship, there were times when I missed being single. And even though I sometimes miss being in a relationship now, I'm not convinced I'd be happier overall. I really enjoy doing what …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:46 AM
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You're so disingenuous. If he wanted to state facts, and only facts, well, that was actually very easy: The age of consent in the Philippines is set at 12 by law. Was it that hard? No, easy peasy! In the same way, it is easy to show you disprove that in case you really do, see: The age of consent in the Philippines is set at an alarmingly low 12 years old. It's genuinely sick that politicians allow adults to legally have sex with children. Whether they admit it or not, they're effectively endors…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:49 AM
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Seriously? Like, it's impossible for you to state facts and then immediately add that you find those same facts disturbing or morally wrong? How is that? Sorry, but the way he phrased it means that he clearly condoned it. So unless that user is someone who helped create their laws or agrees with it being that low then you cant say he wants that. Well, he clearly did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:25 AM
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What did you not understand? There’s a law that decides that in the U.S. the age of consent is 18 I believe. In some other countries it’s lower, Philippines for example is 12 and a lot of parts of the world it is 15 or 16. That’s the only rule that is enforceable so any other noise or idea about age gap doesn’t matter. What does that last sentence mean? Well, let me spell it out for you: he wouldn't mind going as low as the law allows. Simple as that. Morals & Ethics? Noise! Red pillers = bad fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:11 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:59 AM
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I already quoted the relevant part of a comment: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1k9ex85/comment/mpe6hvh/ Otherwise, you know that quite a few Red Pill men want to become passport bros, right? And the AOC in the countries they consider is often lower than 18... Coincidence? Hmm, I'm not so sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:42 AM
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Well, he was far from the only one who mentioned the AOC without any regard for morals or ethics...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:33 AM
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If you don't get it, then I'm not sure your flair is appropriate? And since I'm not convinced, I'm not sure I should bother explaining it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:28 AM
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I bet he's a self-proclaimed "Pick Up Artist" (PUA)? This is yet another piece of BS from the manosphere. I'm not sure in what world their techniques would yield good results. Maybe it would work with Pick Me Girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:22 AM
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Sure, I must have made it up then...: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1k7ic0m/most_men_who_date_a_younger_woman_are_not_doing/ https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1k9651i/q4m_on_the_shannon_sharpe_karli_zuniga_scandal/ https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1jzavjf/the_no_mercy_gaming_controversy_rape_fantasies_in/ Keep in mind that all of these posts are less than 2 weeks old... And PurplePillDebate Created on Aug 22, 2013 ...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:59 PM
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At least one incel who is realistic. Oh, wait? nvm...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:51 PM
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LOL. You really assumed my main criteria were... looks? Dude, I'm not interested in hookups. And for LTRs, looks don't matter as much as all the rest, at least not for me. Besides, I value my freedom & independence very much. So for me, I'm not even sure that a relationship would have more pro's than con's tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:48 PM
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<image> Oh shit! The thing is, I already am 😊. But that's such a big loss! No, wait, that's actually how I'd feel. ⮭
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:42 PM
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Unlike you, I'm totally okay with being single. Believe it or not, I don't care, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:33 PM
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I see what you mean, and I don't disagree completely. But don't forget that there are probably more performative male feminists than actual male feminists/allies. Feminist women probably far outnumber the men who would be compatible with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:30 PM
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See right here: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1k9ex85/comment/mpe6hvh/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:27 PM
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Well, that's what he said. From your link, it appears that the AOC for girls in Sudan is 12. So I guess my point still stands. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:26 PM
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No, I would definitely not wait that long to dump his ass. Maybe right after he assumes this is finally his night. Since he's probably old-fashioned, maybe I should wait until he pays for dinner? 😸 Treat them the way they want to treat you. That is, like disposable goods.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:21 PM
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OK, good, because I think the feelings would be mutual anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:04 PM
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There’s a law that decides that in the U.S. the age of consent is 18 I believe. In some other countries it’s lower, Philippines for example is 12 and a lot of parts of the world it is 15 or 16. That’s the only rule that is enforceable so any other noise or idea about age gap doesn’t matter. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1k7ic0m/comment/mozrl79/ It's a shame that the pedo later removed his comment. Perhaps an afterthought? Or more likely, fear of being put on a watch list? Ign…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:02 PM
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Fair enough. Meanwhile, I tell my sisters to adopt cats and embrace the 4B movement. And to enjoy popcorn while reading the comments from you and your bunch on PPD. I really wonder who will whine the most about their situation 😺
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:46 PM
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Oh no, did I bruise another fragile male ego? Want a chance with my friendlier friends? Sure, they'd love to turn you on until you get blue pilled balls, and then they'd say goodbye! As you might have guessed, they like red-pilled men as much as I do. That's why they would treat you so nice 😊.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:18 PM
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Relax dude, I just saw it as role playing. But without sexual innuendo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:51 PM
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Half a good point for finally taking my "no" for an answer. Unfortunately, that doesn't make up for all the negative points.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:44 PM
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Maybe by using "egalitarian" instead of "feminist" when that's what's being implied?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:42 PM
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I'll let you figure it out for yourself. No time to waste with straight up misogynistic guys. Please send me your red-pilled friend in the hopes that he'll set the bar a little higher than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:39 PM
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OK, I guess that was a good way to filter out the Tate's fans. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:32 PM
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It's not a matter of "fighting my battle", it's a matter of consistency & intellectual honesty. Either you have a problem with a particular argument, or you simply don't. It can't be both, that's too convenient. Or just say you're being disingenuous and I'm done with you, that works too. Anyway, back to your claim, to debunk your BS: "There was no relationship. It was sex." The article provided by OP says otherwise: "The civil action claims her relationship with Sharpe, starting in 2023 when she…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:38 PM
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Completely. They are so out of touch with reality and common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:19 PM
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Well, I only engage with people of good faith. If you use this argument against me but not against other men because what they say fits your narrative, I call that cherry-picking. But now you can't pretend you missed their comment ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:17 PM
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Thank you. It's really crazy how hard they try to justify it, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:14 PM
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Then tell that to your fellow Pilled bro who brought up the fertility argument. In case you were of good faith and simply missed it, here it is: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1k9651i/comment/mpbx2ov/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:12 PM
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OK, here are some rational arguments, if you prefer: Biological: - Fertility declines with age, even in men. The older the father, the higher the risk to the baby. So the biological argument (or the one from your fellow red-pill dude) that men are "wired" to prey on 18-25 year old women regardless of their own age doesn't hold up. - Even if he got her pregnant after a year (optimistically), the father would already be 54. Is that really ideal for raising children, considering his possible declin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:08 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:35 PM
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Just out of curiosity, do you see anything wrong with mainstream/modern porn? If so (I doubt it, but I'm asking anyway), what is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:21 PM
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We are not talking about the woman simply being "younger". No, we are talking about an age difference of 35 years, ffs!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:10 PM
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Didn't it occur to you that if you're 53 years old, you have a lot more experience than if you're 19? Men are generally physically stronger too, especially as a former professional athlete. He is also likely to be much wealthier than she is. All of this should make the power imbalance at play really obvious... But next time just say you have no morals & no ethics, that'd be quicker.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:54 PM
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OK, I think I'm starting to notice a recurring trait in Red Pill men: they basically have zero morals & ethics, so as long as something is considered legal, they go for it, no questions asked. I'd rather not think about all the things you would have done when there were no laws governing what was allowed and what was not...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:38 PM
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Why? Can't you have sex with a woman your own age? This tells me that there must be something wrong with you...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:20 PM
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That sounds a lot like projection to me. And does it make you feel better to claim this: Human males are biologically wired to find women at the peak of their fertility the most attractive. Which is usually women in the 18-25 age range. The last time I checked, I was still male, but I don't feel that way at all. Being able to do something doesn't mean I want to do it. I find different women attractive, and it's clearly not limited to this age group. I also have many other criteria than being phy…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:18 PM
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Here's what I think of a 54-year-old man who preys on a 19-year-old woman: ☠️☠️☠️ Apart from abusing her, what legitimate reasons are there for seeking a relationship with a woman 35 years younger than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:45 PM
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My bad, I mean you're obviously free to have whatever criteria you want, of course. My point is that, objectively, you haven't asked a lot of your potential partners, have you? That's why I jokingly said "it doesn't even look like the bare minimum to me". I wanted to emphasize that nothing you mentioned was unreasonable or unexpected in my opinion. And my other comment was certainly not trolling. Overall, my text was serious, with a touch of dry wit in certain parts. I honestly thought the list …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:27 PM
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All right, let me try to put it another way. When I talked about female-centered spaces, what I meant was that in practice, it's probably more than 95% of the people who post or comment who happen to be women. And I'm not active in conservative spaces, so it's overwhelmingly feminist women. Here (PPD), on the other hand, I feel like the demographic is dominated by men: when you see how the majority of the posts or comments are worded (or even just by looking at the user's flair, lol), it's prett…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:11 PM
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Well, I think I've been active in female-centered spaces long enough to notice that it's very rare and would sound weird for women to identify as such. For men on the other hand, especially MRAs, it's much more common to either describe themselves as egalitarian or say they support egalitarianism. Which is why I made this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:48 PM
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Your standards don't even look like the bare minimum to me, lol. Still, I have absolutely no trouble believing that less than 5% of men would meet your criteria. These would be mine if I were a woman: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1k72bh3/comment/movww77/ I imagine I'd have to join the 4B movement, not necessarily as a first choice, no, but for lack of a better alternative. Friendly tip for guys: "Modern women" are simply not interested in Neanderthal men. I don't know why th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:16 PM
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Well, definitely better that men like you. I have seen far more men complaining here than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:56 AM
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😂 Very good summary indeed! I prefer to laugh at it, even though it's really quite pathetic and shameless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:19 AM
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💯. Frankly, I could have some sympathy for them if they weren't so disingenuous. Every single MRA space I have encountered so far has its existence rooted in opposition to feminism, as if that were its sole purpose. Even the so-called leftist or progressive spaces are really the same. So much so that it's now virtually impossible for me to debate an MRA without assuming that sooner or later they're going to show some bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:57 AM
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Agreed. Why coddle people you don't want to interact with anyway? And honestly, for these men, it's probably not the term they don't like, but rather the concept behind it. So calling it something else isn't going to change their minds. Just my 2 cents.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:42 AM
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You're right. The problem is that, in my experience, of all the people who use the term "egalitarian" to describe themselves, many of them are MRAs, as I said in my post. That's why I asked a few people individually what it means to them. A dictionary obviously can't tell me that. Anyway, from the answers I gathered here, for most people feminism seems to be a subset that is part of egalitarianism. Obviously, that's not how most MRAs use it, since they are not afraid to show that they are veheme…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:27 AM
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I feel like there are a lot of people who are "b", at least on here, and especially men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:14 AM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:08 AM
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Yes, I completely agree with you as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 11:29 PM
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All right, thank you. It's sad that it's being hijacked by MRAs, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 11:06 PM
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I asked ChatGPT, lol: So in short: Egalitarianism = “Everyone should be equal, across the board.” Feminism = “Women should be treated equally to men, because historically they haven’t been.” You could say that feminism is a subset of egalitarianism — focused on gender, and especially on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:57 PM
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Ah OK, so far I have felt that it has not been used by others to refer to a subset of feminism, but rather as a completely different alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:53 PM
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Would you mind explaining the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:46 PM
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And egalitarianism?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:34 PM
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Oh, I'm not that much of a connoisseur, lol. I've heard of 1st, 2nd or 3rd wave feminism, if that's what you meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:33 PM
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Agreed! But I also think the concept has been hijacked by MRAs... Maybe that's an even more recent trend, but I'm not sure? But like you said, actions speak louder than words. Oh, by the way, did you forget to check your DMs? ^^
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:31 PM
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I know, right? And no reason to be ashamed of being a feminist, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:27 PM
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I remember upvoting some of your comments, lol. On PPD, I have the feeling that feminists & allies are outnumbered by red-pilled men :(
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:17 PM
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No, actually, although I'm a man, on Reddit I'm mostly active in female-centered spaces, so most of the people I find here are indeed feminists. But I was referring specifically to this sub (PPD) because I had the impression that there are far more red-pilled men than feminist women/allies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:10 PM
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Are they the same for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:58 PM
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Ah, so-called "choice feminism"? Not really my cup of tea either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:57 PM
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I bet you're less radical than most of the Red-Pilled dudes here, lol. In another post someone said this: There’s a law that decides that in the U.S. the age of consent is 18 I believe. In some other countries it’s lower, Philippines for example is 12 and a lot of parts of the world it is 15 or 16. That’s the only rule that is enforceable so any other noise or idea about age gap doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:54 PM
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Would you mind elaborating? Because in my experience it's rare that people who claim to be egalitarians, especially when they do so to avoid saying they're feminists or allies (so I'm not talking about when it's simply used as a synonym), are actually egalitarians in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:50 PM
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Same comment as for the other woman who said the same thing as you: So you use both terms interchangeably/as synonyms?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:45 PM
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So you use both terms interchangeably/as synonyms?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:44 PM
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Personally, I would avoid women like you like the plague, lol. But please note that it's nothing personal, really. Said differently, I'd only be interested in blue-pilled / progressive women who are neither religious nor into traditional gender roles. I'd want to treat her as a partner and certainly not as my slave. And I'm not afraid of strong and independent women. Red-pilled men can call me a simp, I really don't care, lol. However, if you are really considering becoming a tradwife, please th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 08:46 PM
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https://english.emmaclit.com/2017/05/20/you-shouldve-asked/ But I'm sure if you ask them, most men will deny being like that, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:02 PM
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Male-only spaces tend to be the most toxic, so if you want to be around like-minded people, go for it. On the other hand, I found most feminist spaces to be warm and welcoming. The only caveat I could think of is the way they can sometimes be moderated, but to be honest, that's not unique to them. It's more of a Reddit problem overall. And of course they're good moderators too :) And for workplaces, I've heard that a gender split close to 50/50 tends to provide the best environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 11:22 AM
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👏
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 11:05 AM
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Oh, but then the Chads could share their girl with their brothers: after all, it's not the women's fault if they're selfish, right? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:52 AM
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It goes without saying that I would practice what I preach, lol. After all, I did say that reciprocity was important to me, didn't I? The criteria you mentioned were there to increase political and ideological compatibility with my potential partner, that's all. Also, since I don't live in the US, the obesity and conservatism rates here are not as alarmingly high. Last but not least, who said that living alone was not an option? Even then, I'm not sure your math is right: these variables are pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:27 AM
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I agree with you, and my point was exactly that they shouldn't. But in practice, it seemed to me that women tended to put up with more crappy behavior than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:12 AM
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If women have sex with men, doesn't that mean men have sex with... women? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:46 PM
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You should delete your com before the sub gets overrun with... you know what I mean, right? 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:10 PM
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🤫
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:59 PM
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Wah wah 😭😭😭 Why do women prefer the bear? Why won't they choose me instead? Why are more and more women joining the 4B movement? They even prefer cats over nice guys like me! Modern women have such high standards - I could never raise the bar that high! They should really lower it so they can stoop to my level. Fair enough, I'll just prey on young, inexperienced girls - they're easier to manipulate! 👹👹👹
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:22 PM
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Ask yourself this: why is it that when the age difference is quite large, say >10 yrs, it's usually the man who is older than the woman? Throughout his 40s, DiCaprio had been the focus of various reports detailing his involvement with women aged 25 or younger, and had faced criticism for the age disparity of those relationships. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_DiCaprio#Personal_life Johnny Depp is 23 years older than Amber Heard. And it's not just a matter of romantic or sexual ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:54 PM
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Apparently his only limit is the age of consent, and a 12-year-old girl seems to be old enough for him as long as it's considered legal... I don't even want to imagine what he would say if the AOC was lowered to 8 in some countries. There’s a law that decides that in the U.S. the age of consent is 18 I believe. In some other countries it’s lower, Philippines for example is 12 and a lot of parts of the world it is 15 or 16. That’s the only rule that is enforceable so any other noise or idea about…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:19 PM
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Ah, that's cool, and they found a sweat nickname for you :) I'm not an expert in psychology, but I think I've heard that "predators" can often sense the vulnerability, e.g. if the person seems easily frightened, in their potential "prey". So maybe there's a change, maybe even subtle, in how you project yourself and they sense it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:03 PM
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What a loaded answer, lol. You do know that you have the option of staying single, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:26 AM
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Unfortunately, I can't say the same about incels BS. It comes up way too often. But as long as they stay single, I guess I'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:23 AM
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It's certainly better to only date people with whom you are fairly well aligned ideologically, have similar expectations of relationships, and so on. You don't necessarily have to be 100% compatible in every way, but in general I think the higher the better. As for Russia, I think Putin is a harsh critic of DEI and progressive views, as he said something like that's what ruined the Western countries. By the way, can you think of anything to add to my (short) list? https://np.reddit.com/r/PurpleP…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:38 AM
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So, if I were a woman, I'd expect my prospective male partner: To treat me as a human being. To reciprocate. To do his fair share of housework without needing reminders (assuming we both have full-time jobs). To share common expenses equally (50/50). To be honest and respectful. To be faithful. To have empathy and emotional intelligence. To respect my boundaries ("no" means "no"). To cut ties with his misogynistic friends (ideally not having any in the first place). Not to want any children. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:23 AM
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Wow... And what do you bring to the table as a prehistoric man?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:55 PM
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You mean that You Carry Yourself With The Confidence Of A Mediocre White Man? I'm kidding, it's men who act like you supposedly do, right? I've been brosplained by a boy who just graduated. And he didn't even work on what he practiced the most during his studies. And in this case, to call him "overconfident" would be an understatement! Dunning-Kruger terminal stage. I really hope you don't get mansplained like this too often, because I wonder how you can stay mentally sane, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:04 PM
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Yeah, it's really sad. I mean, how can they be complicit in their own dehumanization? A little while ago, I interacted with a woman who seemed to be defending incels and misogynistic men... 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:45 PM
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Why not? I'm not here to shame these women. The worst thing I could do would be to suggest that they dump their partner, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:29 PM
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I agree with you that personality and preferences can play a role regardless of gender. The examples you gave are also relevant in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:26 PM
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I see what you mean. Any idea why there seem to be more venting/ranting posts from women complaining about their male partner's bad behavior than the other way around? For example, something I have seen mentioned quite often is weaponized incompetence. However, I have rarely, if ever, seen it used by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:04 PM
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Interesting! So you'd say that T makes you more assertive/confident/demanding? And maybe more prone to becoming aggressive? As a side question, if you don't mind, any change in terms of sex drive?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:21 PM
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That's the best approach IMHO.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:16 PM
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Because for the 2 examples I gave in my post, I don't recall many instances of the opposite being tolerated by men, that's all. And if you were a man, you might be conditioned differently for a variety of reasons. For example, you might be more assertive or overly confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:14 PM
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Ah, that's a good point, at least in theory it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:10 PM
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I guess you are one of the lucky ones :) On a more serious note, after thinking about it, it's probably to be expected that Blue Pilled women (I think they're usually feminists in practice?) are less inclined to tolerate non-egalitarian relationships. On the other hand, I suppose that conservative women might not care so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:08 PM
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Well, as I said in my post, I thought that, on average, one gender tends to compromise more than the other. But is it wrong to assume that relationship dynamics could be influenced by each partner's gender, societal norms, and so on? For example, I think mothers tend to spend more on their children than fathers. Should parenting have anything to do with gender? Well, I don't think so. After all, children have two parents of each sex. But in practice, in most cases, the roles of the parents are n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:01 PM
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Guys, if you are playing an online video game and a woman is being harassed, just fucking call out your bro! Don't do it because you want to get in her pants or because you expect to be thanked for playing white knight, no. Do it because women are human too! Women play to have fun too, not to be targeted by misogynistic jerks. Nobody - man or woman - likes toxic players. And if you have ever harassed women, then shame on you (I really wanted to be harsher, but I had to censor myself to prevent m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:00 PM
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My main issue is that traditional expectations are still too strong, especially when it comes to gender roles. I also believe that women shouldn't feel pressured to tolerate inconsiderate behavior from their partners, and I'm not just referring to outright abusive behavior - since I want to avoid any suggestion of victim-blaming - but also the subtle stuff that gets brushed off as "harmless". Too often, they're the ones expected to compromise the most. For example, I remember a woman who told me…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:00 PM
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I never said that too. I asked to see if this is what was problematic. Apparently it's not that. No kidding! I think it was pretty clear what she found problematic: So is she just a walking uterus to you who doesn't get to make her own decisions about her career and her financial health? The more I read this sub, the more I'm thankful that my husband isn't like the men here. If this is discussed before the relationship, what is wrong with that ? But that's the thing - he never said he was open t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:59 AM
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Yes, you said exactly what I said you did. After all, I just copied & pasted your words. And words have meaning, especially when taken in context.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:38 AM
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Well, I'm sorry, but you actually defended him. See my comment here: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1k5v8tp/comment/moriocd/ BTW, nice use of a straw man. She never said she was against the principle of equitably sharing expenses when they both work... And neither did I.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:26 AM
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Well, the way you talk about women: Yeah i think that is ridiculous. If my woman wants to work, im all for it, as long as she’s contributing to the bills. Im not going to be paying all the bills so she can live rent-free. However, if she wants to have a baby, she has to stay home with baby till theyre old enough for school. So for you, women are possessions, basically just objects that you own for the purpose of procreation and raising children? Also, it's funny to say: "if she wants to have a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:19 AM
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Nice try... But he said, "She has to..." which implies that the woman has no say in the relationship. But don't worry, I understand why you missed that part - because you surely see women the same way he does. After all, we can't reasonably expect misogynistic men to call out their fellow misogynistic bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:23 AM
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I think what they hate is that the model doesn't want to have sex with them, lol. So basically the resentment comes from jealousy IMO. Personally, I don't really care as long as they're not being abused/are fully consenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:58 PM
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You often see guys making fun of so-called “single cat ladies”, but the irony is, those women are probably doing just fine on their own, unlike some of the very guys making the jokes. At least they’ve figured out how to live without bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:18 PM
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Well, then you should abandon the BP...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:11 PM
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I giggled after reading your comment, only to realize I misread it, lol: I have since corrected and chosen bears
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:48 PM
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Well, probably not for incels. But I think they prefer to stay single, so it's not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:38 PM
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What am I supposed to say in response to this 🙄? https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/qbx6aLNFta
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:01 AM
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As far as I know, there's no real consensus among feminists about sex work. However, most of them denounce the fact that sex workers are often abused in practice. And no, my point was that you'd definitely like to go out with a woman without having to spend a penny on the date, but still end up having sex with her, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:42 PM
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Yet another man who blames feminism... When You're Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression. Are you even aware that there are men who would never want to date/marry a tradwife? I for one want a partner, not a slave or a sex doll. And the opposite is also true: feminist women certainly don't want a conservative boyfriend. You also said that you "don't hate women," but you seem to have no problem suggesting that women be treated like sexual objects by encouraging men to resort to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:31 PM
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Obviously, if you often encounter different people as you walk through the woods, it's much less likely to happen. That's why this scenario assumes that the woman is alone in the woods with either a man or a bear. The implication is that even if she screams, no one will hear her. And it could be weeks or even months before a body is found. That said, I genuinely wonder if you read the news. Because men assaulting women is probably a lot more common than you thought: https://www.independent.co.uk…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:03 PM
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If some woman wants to choose a bear over me I'd find it funny and not care at her stupid choice because she's a strong independent woman. You're supposedly not offended, but you still called her choice "stupid," lol. Sure, dude. I also feel like the "because she's a strong independent woman" makes fun of said woman for the (smart) choice she would have made by picking the bear. I think you could have found better ways to show that you didn't care. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:29 PM
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"Most guys," I don't know. But some men surely do. I remember a married man with children in his late thirties who was cheating with a co-worker in her early twenties. They even had sex in the storage room at work. What would be interesting IMHO is to know if there are some factors that predict which men are more likely to cheat if given the opportunity. I suppose the current status of their current romantic relationships plays a role, but there could probably be some personality traits that cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:39 AM
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Oh, I actually stole the flair from another man, but I tweaked it a bit. His flair went something like this: "Red Pill Man | Fed up with misandry" and I thought: "If there are men complaining about so-called misandry, then there should be men protesting against widespread misogyny! Well, at least I'll be one of them." I realize I forgot to thank him: so thank you, unknown man, for being the source of inspiration for my new flair!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:04 AM
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This has crossed my mind recently: This is certainly based on the misogynistic assumption that women make inherently irrational decisions and that they're hysterical, so that's why they must be picking the bear. Oh, and for them, men are inherently smarter than women, so these men obviously know better what women should do! But sure, the men who get mad at a woman who says she'd rather be with a bear are definitely not hysterical themselves. After all, it's just a hypothesis that completely just…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:47 AM
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Thank you :) Honestly, I'm just so sick of the misogyny online and IRL. And when I see these men offended that a woman would hypothetically choose a bear over a man(\*) if she were alone in the woods? I mean, that's a no-brainer! (\*) I think most men get angry because they assume that the woman would also choose a bear over THEM specifically. And they just can't accept that and they get mad, lol. It's the same when women say they're going to join the 4B movement: "How could they rather stay sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:34 PM
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Oh, I imagine I'd get along pretty well with my fellow male feminists. We'd tell each other jokes about fellow men with very fragile egos and definitely have a good laugh!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:43 AM
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That's a disingenuous comparison... but yeah. If some woman wants to choose a bear over me I'd find it funny and not care at her stupid choice because she's a strong independent woman. See why I said you had a very fragile ego? You had to make it about YOU!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:41 AM
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Yes, if you're 100% sure that he respects you as a human being, then I suppose that can make sex more fun. Well, if you do find a guy who really respects you, he's a keeper, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:35 AM
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WTF dude? Misandry, lol. Actually, you must be right, the gynarchy we live in must have given me a lot of internalized misandry :(. So you're also going to tell me she's a misandrist, of course? https://bikepacking.com/plog/man-or-bear-debate/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:28 AM
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Ah, well, if it's just from time to time and you're okay with it, then I guess it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:23 AM
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No, it's because they're smart that they choose the bear! It's the only reasonable option. I really wish I could pretend otherwise, but it's just not possible with the way things are right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:18 AM
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TBH, if he treats you like a piece of meat, that's probably how he sees you. That's the inconvenient truth. And if he's not doing his best to get you off, then I'd say that's also a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:14 AM
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If I were a woman, you know what I would find "100% fear-mongering"? Well, guys like you who dismiss our experiences as women like you did. If I start screaming in the street because a man is physically aggressive toward me, you'd think I'm exaggerating or tell yourself it's so unlikely you must have heard voices in your head. Even if I didn't expect you to endanger your own life by intervening, you could still have called the cops, but you didn't bother because, after all, the feminazi are hyst…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:10 AM
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You asked women for their opinions, right? So instead of dismissing their experiences, maybe you should try to listen to them? I'll tell you a personal anecdote: A long time ago, a woman had a crush on me and followed me to my apartment. She knocked on the door, but she was not alone. No, she asked another guy she knew well to come with her. Then I had 2 different ways to react: A) Wow, she really thought I was going to attack her? Me? Really? Didn't she realize I was a nice guy? Wait, she actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:21 AM
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No, you take offense because you have a very fragile ego and are probably misogynistic yourself. Otherwise, you'd totally understand why (most) women choose the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:04 AM
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What a surprise: another guy offended by the "man or bear" scenario! Bro, you are completely missing the point. I suggest you try to put yourself in women's shoes for like 5 minutes and read this article: https://bikepacking.com/plog/man-or-bear-debate/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:00 AM
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What? You don't like being treated like a sex doll? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:36 PM
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A more honest argument might be that the few misandrists exist as a counterbalance to the pervasive misogyny. But nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 01:27 AM
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I actually think that quite a lot of men condone these hateful or explicit posts and comments - either passively or even actively by endorsing or encouraging them directly. Far too few speak out against them. Just take a look at the shortguys sub if you don’t want to take my word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 12:51 AM
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Fair enough. But a woman who is as conventionally attractive as you will, on average, received far more attention that you do, trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 11:12 PM
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I bet you're a man who receive not much attention from women, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 11:01 PM
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Have you considered that the premise of your questions is biased? Why do you assume that women necessarily dress for male attention? https://imgur.com/ghCbJDV
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:56 PM
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That's the response parfaite.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:59 PM
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Keep blaming women - I'm sure that'll land you a girlfriend, lol. Or is your dream scenario government-mandated girlfriends for 2028?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:42 PM
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I’m not American, so I won’t comment on the Duluth model. Who compares men to violent predators Who commits more violent crimes by gender - men or women? And if your ego feels bruised because a woman says she’d rather choose the bear, that’s on you. Ask yourself, who does feminism primarily benefit Are you suggesting that women are, in practice, more privileged than men? I don't know for you,, but for example, I’ve never been catcalled while walking down the street, nor have I been harassed whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:10 PM
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The fact is, overall, more men voted for Trump than women did. That said, here’s what I wrote on the subject: I have no sympathy for men who play the victim card. From my perspective, it’s largely a backlash against feminism. As a man who tries his best to advocate for women’s rights, I’ve seen plenty of bad faith firsthand. There is some genuine cluelessness, but at some point, many of these men are simply choosing to bury their heads in the sand, it’s just more convenient for them. That said, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:27 PM
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Well, not necessarily. Not every petition is about the same thing, and one can definitely be more important than the other. Also, since my example was about petitions, there's only so much I could do. After all, women are still clearly disadvantaged in practice compared to men. So it's only natural that more of our efforts should be focused on them. Otherwise, it is disingenuous to pretend that you want to achieve gender equality. P.S.: My first comment was deliberately misquoted: "I’m not convi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:04 AM
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Of course, that wasn’t personal. My point is that I believe women would be more likely to advocate for men’s rights (the genuine ones) if men did the same for women’s rights. I’m single at the moment, but let’s say I find a girlfriend. After some time, I come across a petition supporting men’s issues, like fathers’ rights, and I kindly ask if she’d consider signing it. She might be hesitant, right? But if I mention that I signed a pro-choice petition (which I did, by the way), she might feel mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:16 AM
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Fair enough. Let me try to explain it differently. Imagine I owe you $5 (misandry) while you owe me $100 (misogyny). You’re asking me to pay back the $5, which might seem a bit disingenuous given our respective debts. After all, I could just as easily ask you to repay the $100, right? Or, you could give me $95, and we’d be even.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:22 PM
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Look, I'm often active in female-dominated spaces, and it's very rare that I feel hostility specifically toward me. The very few times I came across a comment I didn't like, I simply downvoted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:05 PM
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I’m not convinced that 'casual misandry' should be our main focus if we genuinely want to achieve gender equality. When it comes to gender discrimination, I encounter far more misogynistic comments than misandric ones. While misandry does exist, I believe it is almost entirely a reaction to the widespread and blatant misogyny. Eliminate misogyny and patriarchy, and I’m confident that misandry would quickly fade away.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:24 PM
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My point is that, regardless of the family structure - whether both parents are present to raise the child or only a single mother or father - a child never consented to being born. I’m sure some kids might argue it wasn’t fair for their parents to bring them into the world, whether or not their father was involved in their upbringing. As for the question, 'Having a child without the father in the picture isn’t unfair to the child?' I believe it would be better to ask the child themselves. I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:50 PM
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I suppose we could argue that it’s indeed abusive to the man - but only if the woman has legal access to abortion. However, it’s certainly not unfair to the child in any case. As far as I know, the child certainly didn’t ask to be born.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:37 PM
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So, according to your logic, being pro-choice is actually anti-social? Let’s try swapping 'man' with 'woman,' 'father' with 'mother,' and 'he/his' with 'she/her,' and we get this: If a woman is unable or unwilling to be a mother, it's her responsibility to a) have 0 sex; or b) ensure that a pregnancy can't happen during the sex that she has. Not doing so is anti-social. So, by this reasoning, resorting to abortion would also be anti-social, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:23 PM
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I bet he’s the type of guy who would either scoff or get angry at the bear vs man choice. For some men, it’s easier to be dismissive than to actually use their brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:09 PM
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If women are afraid of men, don’t you think it might have something to do with how some men behave toward them? So, if you genuinely want women to feel less afraid of men, it would make more sense to focus on men’s behaviors rather than women’s. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:05 PM
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Fair enough. I guess I accidentally responded to your comment. After all, you merely reused his term "mainstream misandry". But overall, I agree with you. I have actually noticed that some men have called themselves "tired of misandry," and I think they were intentionally exaggerating in order to play the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:20 AM
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It's mostly because of the way men overall act that determine the current dating dynamics. Of course, if only a few men suddenly have more stringent standards, that won't radically change the dating landscape for them. So men with high standards, or standards at all - men who want to be treated as a partner and not used? They die alone. Yes and no, I suppose. It might be harder for men with high standards to get into a relationship, but that doesn’t mean men with low standards will stay with a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:43 PM
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I agree with you, but I know that many men won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:06 PM
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As a man who doesn’t mind being single at all (I could even identify as a volcel), I’m only interested in high-quality matches. By this, I don’t mean women who are 'out of my league', but rather that I have several criteria that must be met before I’d even consider a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:05 PM
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I'm a guy from Europe, and I also find it odd that the number of men and women on Tinder is almost equal. But I think the main issue isn’t so much that men have low standards (though that doesn’t help), but that many are so desperate to get into a relationship! Just look at the incels, for example. As long as men, on the whole, are needier than women, it won’t work in their favor in the dating game. It’s like going to a job interview (a date) and telling your prospective employer (your date) tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:54 PM
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Sure - half of accounts are women, but they don't use them. For every active woman, there's three active men. Your source would include women simply having an account, their account could be inactive for years and it would still count. No, that’s actually not true. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you made a mistake in good faith. Active users by gender perfectly match the global (Worldwide) statistics, so there’s no reason to suspect that the percentage of inactive accounts is …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:30 PM
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That's BS. Who kills men the most? Men. Who kills women the most? Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:08 AM
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I agree with you. That said, I think it’s disingenuous to complain about misandry without first acknowledging misogyny. Misandry may be an annoyance, but misogyny kills. Not really comparable, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:47 PM
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I think it largely comes down to patriarchy and toxic masculinity. Most men start being conditioned from a young age to suppress emotions and avoid vulnerability. So, the sooner males can distance themselves from these gender stereotypes, the easier it becomes to express behavior that doesn’t conform to them. For example, I rarely cried as a kid, pre-teen, or teen (roughly between ages 8 and 17), and now as an adult, I can’t even remember the last time I cried. Intuitively, I’d say that a guy is…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:26 PM
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I can only speak for myself as a guy, and I suppose that’s true. I believe most men see vulnerability as a weakness. Not only does this discourage men from being vulnerable with each other, but it can also make the other person defensive or even hostile. Even if that’s not the case, they might feel confused and unsure how to respond, simply because they rarely encounter these situations. That said, it doesn’t mean men can’t discuss these topics with each other, but I imagine it’s not as common o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:42 AM
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I won’t speak for you personally, but I completely agree with u/Hosj_Karp. For example, many incels act as if they’re a physical match (looksmatch) for their potential partners when they complain about being rejected, yet it’s not uncommon to hear them say things like this: Yet, because I am ugly, no cute girl is interested in me sexually. And I'm not asking you to take my word for it: https://imgur.com/9ncnSr5
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 01:17 PM
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It's not a right, it's just a possibility. What is actually a right is to be able to freely choose our partner in a relationship, assuming that anyone can reject a potential partner for any reason if they wish. No one has the right to impose themselves as a partner on another person, regardless of the nature of the relationship. There must be mutual consent for the relationship to begin. And the underlying problem is certainly not that women are setting the bar too high for their potential partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:32 AM
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Stop playing the victim. Says the guy who called himself 'tired of the misandry'...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 06:44 PM
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What gender are most victims of rape in prisons? So, if you truly want to address the issue of rape - whether in prisons or elsewhere - maybe you should tell your bros not to rape, right? Don’t get me wrong: supporting victims of rape, regardless of their gender, is crucial and necessary. That being said, preventing rapes from happening in the first place would be a more effective approach, don’t you think? Common sense suggests prioritising the common denominators: most rapes are committed by m…
/r/EverydayMisandry17/09/24 09:05 PM
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Do you have any credible sources to support your claims? You obviously haven't seen the extensive research on the fact that it's the woman who usually first introduces violence into a relationship and you are obviously ignorant that most IPV is mutual. It’s 'funny' that you brought up the topic of social acceptance of violence against men in particular, yet didn’t mention anything about rape culture. The only times you referred to women were to portray them as aggressors. Isn’t that a bit dising…
/r/EverydayMisandry17/09/24 08:49 PM
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Violence against men is primarily caused by... other men. But nice try! Unless your primary concern was to address violence perpetrated by men?
/r/EverydayMisandry17/09/24 08:14 PM
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For issues that affect both women and men, I believe feminists would welcome your involvement. Take, for example, male violence against women. If you propose actionable solutions to reduce or even eradicate this issue in good faith, it would certainly benefit men as well. As a man, I would greatly appreciate meeting women for the first time without being perceived as a potential threat - something I would actually welcome. That said, I'm not sure many of you would appreciate the potential soluti…
/r/EverydayMisandry16/09/24 09:55 PM
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