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There are laws preventing those things. You can kill someone for hitting on you, sure, if you want to die in jail 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:42 PM
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"from the looks of it" was a placeholder for such. No I'm certainly not suggesting happy couples should get divorced. Who would do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:12 PM
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Yeah I bet you can tell which guys are gonna beat their girlfriends half to death too. Maybe you should be using your talents to protect people 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:01 PM
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I'm curious about your claim that a lot of couples should just get divorced. Surely unhappy incompatible couples who don't want to try to make things better/have tried and it didn't wo A lot is a pretty amorphous term. It doesn't mean necessarily a majority for example, though it could. The ones like that should get divorced, and quantifying how many exactly there are doesn't change that they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:54 PM
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Whys it matter how many? Whether 1,000,000 marriages or 10 million, surely even you would agree there's some threshold beyond which they should just put the thing out of its misery and get a divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:47 PM
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Their unhappiness infects them and those around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:42 PM
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Also, I know no women - and believe at least for women living in a socio-economical bubble like mine - a man who can't keep it in his pants is not marriageable. Yeah as I mentioned blind eye no longer turned to men's cheating. Instead men just stop putting in effort, and then the women whine and complain about said lack of effort, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:42 PM
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I'd be able to tell fairly easily. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:41 PM
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Also, the women getting more degrees is a pointless statistic when a lot of those degrees aren’t worth the debt incurred to get them. How about single women outearning single men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:40 PM
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🤣ok so people should be jailed for cheating? women too right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:49 AM
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most men I'm close to agree that watching porn is a divorce-worthy offense. Considering that 95% of men watch porn, seems like a lot of lies just be holding those marriages together 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:40 AM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:32 AM
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It certainly does sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:19 AM
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Seems like everyone would be better off just constantly dating new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:31 AM
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Yeah indeed people should consider these things in order to ascertain whether marriage is right for them, but they don't. Hopefully they will heed your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:19 AM
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There's definitely better experiences to be had in modern times
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:10 AM
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Less people are carefully weighing it than should do so, clearly. When you tell me to weigh these things you're preaching to the choir.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:10 AM
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Some cheat, some get comfortable with mediocrity and not getting what they really want
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:08 AM
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What's the fucking point?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:07 AM
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A lot of people disagree 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:07 AM
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People have faith in themselves and still fail. to me, what's on offer isn't worthwhile. In 1960 when the divorce rate was 4%, the wife was chaste and did the housework (call it "wanting a bangmaid" if you want I don't really care), and partnerships were for life? Sure that's something worth sacrificing sexual novelty for. This now? What even is this? 🤣Martyrs sacrificing for box checking. Gross. 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:06 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:00 AM
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You only get one life. Donating an organ doesn't deprive you of freedom, is a predictable sacrifice within a certain range (certainly death is possible, but once you're dead, you don't know you're dead)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:57 AM
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Short of a teenage shotgun wedding, there’s no reason not to know yourself and your views on things like monogamy before entering into a commitment as serious as marriage. It’s a binding legal agreement. If you get bored in a LTR, what makes you think you won’t get bored in a marriage? If you’re not sure you can handle the ebb and flow of a relationship, what made you think you’re cut out to sign that license? Apparently many people do not think through those things or do so inaccurately. Men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:57 AM
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Bit different stakes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:53 AM
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was going around screwing everything that moves. They fucked hookers and mistresses. Not necessarily everything that moves. If porn is cheating grind dancing with someone other than your partner is cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:49 AM
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but this is a common tune that changes in most men. Men feel the same tune, they just surrender. Well not all men, of course. It's a spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:48 AM
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Well see what happens to your friend
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:41 AM
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. No one with internet access should be under any illusion about how difficult a marriage is. Human delusion and ego are boundless "oh it won't happen to me" Restraint from what? Not giving into your basic urges? Question - do you feel overexerted following a healthy diet? A regular sleep schedule? Working the same job for more than a few years? Some exertions are worth it. And there's a meta...doing all that and fuckin new pussy v doing all that and you're still fucking the same aging boring fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:34 AM
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Surely some men aren't putting in effort for this reason. It's a common observation that men get more "comfortable" once they're in monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:13 AM
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We already agreed men wouldn't wait
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:12 AM
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No I mean women that expect the man to wait till marriage when the womam has already had sex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:11 AM
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Yikes. Hookers/sugar maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:07 AM
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🤣do you have anything other than insults? I say all the time that women get bored too. Monogamy is an abominable prison for all involved 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:07 AM
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Oh I was talking about on a societal level. For you and for them it comes down to enjoying my bougie auntie lifestyle indefinitely." There is no "otherwise"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:06 AM
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Are you maxed out on improving looks aside from using steroids?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:04 AM
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I don't follow
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:04 AM
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Even being hi and being respectful is an involuntary interaction. Point is, whatever is legally permissible has to be accepted by the individual because there's no recourse. there's nothing anyone can do to stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:03 AM
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So then it's not a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:02 AM
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Part of being a part of society is accepting involuntary interaction. People who don't like it can go live in the forest. What other choice do they have?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:01 AM
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I know I'm just saying how else are women who have already had sex going to get men to wait till marriage to sleep with them lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:59 AM
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There's no otherwise. That's what you will be doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:58 AM
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It isn't I was elaborating on what the options are. So which is it? Women are going to start lying about being virgins so they can save it for marriage with a new mark?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:57 AM
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They’re not putting in effort because that’s the way it’s always been Plenty of people have “good enough” marriages. Some men even like putting in “effort”, as do some women. Sometimes they even marry each other! They're rolling the dice. The ones who roll correctly had no way of knowing until it ends up being correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:55 AM
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I'm talking about the ones who don't see mistresses and hookers. Hah you think only fans is cheating? Is grind dancing with someone other than your partner? Monogamy is less forced upon western men than it ever has been before. If you don’t want to get married, don’t. No one cares. They stumble into it through neurotic box checking How can men be overexerted by doing literally nothing? Get a hobby. Christ. Exercising willpower and restraint. Willpower is a finite resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:52 AM
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It's not a matter of opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:45 AM
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🤣anyways it's a debate sub do you have an argument or are you just here to scrawl like it's your therapist's wall
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:44 AM
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What guy is gonna wait till marriage for someone who has already had sex lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:41 AM
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Men on this sub that talk about male sexlessness disagree w you. This is reddit lol the 30% or whatever number of losers who can't get laid in one of the freest sexual environments in the history of civilization are irrelevant to me and to most people when they perceive reality. "Thing is they gotta wait till marriage because otherwise there's no teeth anyone can say "oh sure we're in a relationship" and the break it off any time" I'm not opposed. Lol too late to put that genie in the bottle for…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:40 AM
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They made mutual sacrifices for a lifelong partnership, contrasted to the glorified quickie of modern marriage that is on offer now
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:35 AM
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Jaded and faith are matters of opinion. Just watch your friend. See what happens when she hits rough patches or whatever her triggers are. She'll eventually crack. Everyone does. Feel free to come back and admit you were wrong when it happens 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:34 AM
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I also support free fleshlights and sex dolls for men from the government. Eww awful on all fronts. Also unnecessary there's always women who will defect. There were even when there was muh patriarchy in effect. I also think women shouldn't fuck men who haven't committed to them, Thing is they gotta wait till marriage because otherwise there's no teeth anyone can say "oh sure we're in a relationship" and the break it off any time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:31 AM
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Well yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:27 AM
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I 100% agree! No one should marry in modern times. It's an imprisoning abomination. A lot married people should probably divorce from the looks of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:24 AM
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That is true. It might not be true in many instances. But to the extent that it is true...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:23 AM
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And many lived. Staying alive sterilely ain't everything. If you're in a village you're in a village, even today. (Long as there's no internet). You don't conceive of alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:21 AM
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A lot of women complain about it. Obligatory not all women complain about men not putting in effort and not all men don't put in effort
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:21 AM
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Again, you'll see for tou self. Keep an eye on her 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:18 AM
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You'll see for yourself. You even have a test case. "Wants to" is different from "permanently does"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:11 AM
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I have sexual novelty and everything listed above. I just make sure I'm the best me possible. Hahah yeah play hot monogamy very novel 🤣 Honestly I dont understand NOT being the best version of yourself, but 🤷‍♂️ Much easier to do when not imprisoned by pretending to be excited by boring pussy. Hence men let themselves go and stop putting in effort. They're already putting in the effort by not fucking other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:54 AM
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MeeT cUtE
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:52 AM
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For now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:43 AM
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It's temporary.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:37 AM
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r/ihadastroke or r/lostredditors
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:32 AM
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but currently I believe they are. When men's validation and life satisfaction depends on running through women, using women, getting women to be hot enough to impress their friends Is there anything new about men desiring any of this? The only difference before was that women's sexuality was restricted to limit men's ability to do this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:08 AM
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Have you not heard the joke: "I was married with two kids, and now I'm divorced with one. MAN life is so much easier. I'm not talking about the ones who divorce. I'm talking about the ones who stay and whine like homeless beggars. I'll also like to flip it on you. If housework is so easy, why can't you help her out? I haven't said anything about it being easy or not easy. I enjoy sexual novelty. What I would expect in return for sacrificing that is not on offer in modern times, while the availab…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:55 PM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:38 PM
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He right doe
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:36 PM
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It is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:33 PM
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I'm just saying don't be blind to the reality that women do the most housework and mental load, regardless of whether they are working or not, and that does have value, so don't bitch about it. I don't understand the women who whine about doing too much housework/mental load. If it's so bad, she can raise the kid alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:33 PM
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No one changes, everybody lies
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:13 PM
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Everyone deserves what they get, no more no less
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:12 PM
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Yes What that guy said
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:11 PM
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If you get bored, or she nags, that's on you. Women are water, they fill the container you put them in. If she's shit, quit being a toilet. If you gotta grind/put in effort anyway, might as well grind/put in effort for new pussy rather than fucking the same aging boring pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:38 PM
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I'd rather have one that I can just pay with dick, food, and a roof. Same one gets boring, nags, and the sacrifice of sexual novelty is made for basically nothing considering that marriage is now a glorified quickie rather than a lifetime partenrship. Lowest bid is no way to live
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:35 PM
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Just make bank account balance the profile photo lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:26 PM
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Or if you find the entire thing distasteful. Do everything yourself and refuse the ignominy of having someone do things for you If you're MarrIagEable it means you most likely have enough money to pay people to do the things. Bonus: no whining. No sacrificing sexual novelty and having to fuck the same aging boring pussy day in and day out. Let her raise the kid alone
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:25 PM
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If you are getting this butthurt over the idea, then simply be better 🤣Or just let her raise the kid alone and outsource your chores to an illegal at $8/hr Boom problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:18 PM
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Feel free to come back and admit you were wrong when it happens
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:17 PM
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It'll be a federal ban
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:11 PM
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Well, feel free to come back here and admit you were wrong when the ban passes 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:09 PM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:03 PM
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That was the whole point of the first comment I made. What will happen in the future. You're welcome to not engage with it, of course. either way, time will reveal. RemindMe! May 31, 2027
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:02 PM
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Overturn of roe v Wade, then federal ban anyways that would make things worse for men who are into casual sex which would be funny to watch anyways. You're making the assumption that getting out of it at all costs is all that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:54 PM
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since they know they dont have the same options women have since its not their body. Pretty soon women won't have that option either, at least not legally 🍾
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:48 PM
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I knew the memorial day barbeque was a trap That's how they getcha
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:09 PM
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Couldn't decide between alabama intensifies She hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:05 PM
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There's women of average chastity or below complaining about men's chastity preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:04 PM
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1st
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:00 PM
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So, like, probably because those men are short 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:00 PM
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Why are women mad that men want their women more chaste than them? 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:58 PM
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It's never been for its own sake, growing up
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:37 PM
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Why is alcohol impacting men more than women (even with women now drinking basically on par with men statistically)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:05 PM
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Lol how so
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:02 PM
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One thing that would massively help relations between the genders would be if both sides could get it through their noddles that there exists (and will always exist) below average men/women and have a think about what life is like for them. Ugh mostly no one wants to think about ugly unfortunates lol it's just human nature
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:20 PM
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monolilith
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:18 PM
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Lmao you smashed together two concepts. That college is a place where people get laid is a cultural phenomenon. You were talking about motivation, and I'm saying that if it's tweaked so the bar is lower for men, they'll start getting motivated by other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:59 PM
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What should we connect it with
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:55 PM
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that has more to do with how you sort your priorities than it does with women. "If a man could fuck a woman in a cardboard box, he wouldn't buy a house" -immortal philosopher Dave Chappelle
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:54 PM
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Compared to
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:53 PM
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High risk, high reward
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:53 PM
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Making the path easier might mean that have enough alternate motivation. I don't think it's binary. Like "oh cool maybe I can get laid in college" could be a motivation lol, get em in the door, but the thought process can't get to thinking it over if it just seems out of reach in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:52 PM
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Why is that impacting men more than women (assuming it is)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:50 PM
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"If a man could fuck a woman in a cardboard box, he wouldn't buy a house" -immortal philosopher Dave Chappelle
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:49 PM
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Is following rules and directions more important now than it used to be? That could be a driver if true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:01 AM
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Yet on the whole women appear to be adhering more to normative productivity than men are (e.g., women outpacing men in pursuing education, single women outearning single men, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:54 AM
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Keep improving whatever is possible to improve and keep putting yourself out there as much as possible. Pay hookers to fill the dry spells once you can afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:53 AM
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Well I see it all the time here men saying "it's not real" etc LOL. It's current year. Most of it isn't real. People don't really need each other. It's all just different permutations of ego gratification. Might as well maximize gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:50 AM
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No u
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:39 AM
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Men have no issue succeeding if they put in the effort At present, not enough men are putting in the effort. Making the path more ascertainable might induce more men to put in the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:25 AM
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Lol so possibly wrong, but more like hoping it's wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:24 AM
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rather wanting/being motivated to complete it. Men here have claimed they are not internally motivated for career growth, motivation comes from checking boxes of perceived success Well it's worth giving affirmative action and scholarships geared toward men a try to find out what's what
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:22 AM
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Although a lot of men on here claim that without sex/wife/children they aren’t motivated to have a career. So maybe men in general need to reevaluate their motivations It could be that that is the case at the current level of difficulty of college/career, but wouldn't be if a path were made more ascertainable for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:19 AM
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So what's the right answer
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:16 AM
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There’s a degree of pride one has to let go of to consider using hookers. This pride around not paying for it is probably cultural, considering that’s what marriage is anyway. Many would rather be celibate. Which is weird since ancestor men were fine doing it, and presumably had even more pride
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:09 AM
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I think the point is that you shouldn't care what others do as long as it doesn't affect your life. Posts on purplepill debate Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:05 AM
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Height and strength preferences are pretty primeval in a first world democracy. Do you not harbor those preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:04 AM
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Well yeah, but men don't seem to be pursuing that lifestyle either. Doesn't make sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:03 AM
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No u
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:02 AM
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Not prostitution if you videotape it.. Other ways to make it grey area.* *Consult your legal advisor
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:02 AM
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so if you don't have the looks, why try anything? Can always pay to sample a variety of delights of every kind. That's what ancestor men did once their wives for life turned frigid: they paid hookers
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:00 AM
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Douche-radar. Yeah that's why so many women end up beaten half to death by their chosen partners, because their picker is so great. Spare me. This is why women won’t sleep with you. Me, specifically? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis#:~:text=The%20just%2Dworld%20fallacy%20or,and%20evil%20actions%20eventually%20punished. I love that you’re shaming women for having sex with more than one person, but the men on this thread can talk about casual monthly sex with infinite partners…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:53 AM
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Lol are they right or wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:44 AM
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But, imo, it would make more sense to ask: "why are women still putting any effort in this rotten society?" Yeah, why are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:35 AM
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I dunno, seems unlikely. What more could women need lmao maybe they always need more
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:35 AM
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So presently, men have their needs met and women don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:23 AM
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So tell me!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:11 AM
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What makes it notable is the widespread departure from normative, productive behavior. Isnt it interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:01 AM
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Seems better to exploit it for maximal gain to fullest legally permissible extent, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:48 AM
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And yet, they aren't. I see no reason to decline to provide encouragement and a leg up
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:30 AM
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Well yeah. It is what it is. Can't just be shut off on demand lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:16 AM
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Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:12 AM
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Lol have some goddamn gratitude if men didn't want sex this much none of us would be here
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:11 AM
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What about all the grown men whining like little girls about being FoRgOtTen because the one factory in town closed? Do they sound to you like they think they're thrriving?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:07 AM
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As Chappelle said "If a man could fuck a woman in a cardboard box, he wouldn't buy a house"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:06 AM
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I just find it interesting how it sounds like many men here would be content to have borderline nothing and do borderline nothing, except they want to fuck. Maybe you've seen that Chappelle line "If a man could fuck a woman in a cardboard box, he wouldn't buy a house"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:03 AM
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Men earning less could be a symptom of their failing to thrive. Not like it's because they're taking time off for pregnancy lol. Thriving is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:57 AM
1

Encouraging isn't the same as enforcing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:54 AM
1

The whole point of commitment is that you shouldn't have to be on guard.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:45 AM
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Will you wait for sex after a few dates instead of pushing her into it? 🤣Odds are in current year she already put out in ten minutes or one date or whatever with at least one other guy. Whatever it is, she can keep it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:43 AM
1

Single women are outearning single men. Perhaps there would be parity if more men got college degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:41 AM
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Keep working at getting better. Maybe the guy gets to the point where he can attract said options. In the meantime, fill the dry spells with paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:41 AM
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Women judge too btw. well because commitment matters. If you're not committed to someone, you are better served to be on guard. If you aren't on guard with someone you're not committed to, there can be nothing said as to precautions to take, because you committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:37 AM
1

The examples given for responsibility are always things like not getting too drunk around strangers or people you aren't committed to. Can you enumerate any such suggestion in the context of monogamous partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:29 AM
1

At the end of the day what can you really do? Form a communist revolution to forbid companies from outsourcing ? That's a good question, as far as what can actually be done
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:27 AM
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then no wonder men are peacing out of even trying. Amass enough money to fuck a new hooker a week. Sure, women are picky, or they aren't. Keep improving in the meantime and find out either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:26 AM
2

No one is saying or has ever said that being raped by a spouse is the result of failing to take responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:25 AM
1

That's never what anyone is referring to by Why are women responsible for sex they are pushed into
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:21 AM
2

One involves a spouse and one doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:11 AM
3

I wasn't talking about support. Assets: Earnings go into a bank account. The bank accounts at divorce are divided equally. The retirement accounts (IRA, 401k, etc.) are divided equally
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:08 AM
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The men that actually want a college education get one. Society has not found it desirable for that number to go up. In fact it is ecstatic that the numbers are the way they are. Seems something worthy of being changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:07 AM
1

I think that's kind of an individual makeup thing. Sounds good in theory no doubt. Maybe it is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:06 AM
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so their motivation has suffered as a result of access to high-quality porn. I'm just not sure I'm convinced by this. Sex feels way better than porn. Might lack of access to high quality sex be a contributing factor along with the porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:05 AM
3

Retirement and earnings earned during marriage are generally divided equally at divorce. So what upward percentage of this total should the woman have upon divorce if not 50%?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:02 AM
2

I learned from a young age to make my own career Username checks out Women are always warned from a young age. I guess only now are the warnings actionable
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:59 AM
2

Yet these women are still motivated to be productive, just not appealing. It is quite the situation overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:54 AM
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MGTOW Not all of them consciously in the way MGTOW is I reckon
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:52 AM
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People would lose their shit, Things don't change until they do. If the feminists [or insert whatever social movement] ust said "whelp there's no way this will ever change", nothing would have ever changed
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:49 AM
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women are better at being alone? That does seem to be true on the aggregate. Or at the least, they are more likely than men to choose being alone if no sufficiently suitable options are on offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:49 AM
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To them “one nation, under god, indivisible...” pertained to white men, and it didn't change. I'm not saying that is an ethical position but it is not the same as giving up on life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:40 AM
1

So it basically comes down to there's no equivalent motivation killer in modern life with respect to women's motivation?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:39 AM
2

Well yeah. So if single childless women are outearning single childless men, it seems that women are using their education sufficiently effectively in the aggregate
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:35 AM
2

Wouldn't it make sense to similarly encourage men now that women attend college out of proportion
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:29 AM
1

They did? I don't think they even changed their definition much lol. The de facto one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:23 AM
1

They are propped up in college with scholarships and grading curves So maybe affirmative action and scholarships favoring men would help
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:23 AM
1

Millennial and Gen-Z men have the highest HS and College degree attainment rates ever. The fact that more women are graduates out of the total number of graduates does not change that more men than ever graduate. Isn't it a point of at least curiosity why women are outpacing men, without changing the fact that the total is the highest ever
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:22 AM
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So they did quit on life/society?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:20 AM
1

Ah like within the company, sure. But outside could work. OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:19 AM
1

They're still a person
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:11 AM
0

You're saying who gives a fuck that ancestors fucked hookers. Then you said they raped. There's reasons not to rape anymore. are the reasons not to fuck hookers anymore the same reasons as not to rape anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:11 AM
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Would you ever start a fight where your chances of wining are 10%? Haven't some men throughout history done just that? So why spend your life running , when you can walk and enjoy the view? I don't disagree with this actually
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:10 AM
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Be more attractive for the hookers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:09 AM
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If not marrying what are the risks. I guess higher child support if you pop out a kid than an equal earner?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:09 AM
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Are those not the thing to do for the same reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:09 AM
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It's what our ancestor men did lol they certainly didn't go celibate once their wives stopped lying back and thinking of England and popping out children and went frigid
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:59 AM
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Maybe there should be affirmative action and scholarships for men in college relative to women since there are disproportionately more women in college
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:58 AM
1

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:57 AM
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Would men be able to make up the gap if it were eliminated? Well no affirmative action relative to women. Remove it for women. They mo longer need it. There's disproportionately more of them in college now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:55 AM
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They didn't quit on life/society at that point I don't believe
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:54 AM
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If it's possible to brainwash women into competing, against their nature, how is it not possible to do the reciprocal for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:53 AM
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Women at their core are only the nurturers in society. But they're competing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:38 AM
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As long as you are not an an unhealthy weight, why should you work out? To put on muscles? Why? To better participate in the smograsboard of sexual variety. I like variety and figured most men do as well. Maybe not I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:33 AM
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What's the point
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:31 AM
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You also can't use your higher position to fuck women anymore due to harassment and rape laws considering if you are a superior you can't. I think could still date working class women without it being called unlawful
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:30 AM
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There's always hookers/sugars while improving/to fill the dry spells
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:29 AM
1

Honestly I don't think vetting isn't a real thing. Maybe in the aggregate it helps .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:28 AM
1

If so, why the disproportionately negative impact on men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:27 AM
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There's always hookers I choose to live a simple life, earning the minimum wage and enjoying the good amount of my free time doing my hobbies. What is the problem with that? Absolutely zero wrong with it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:26 AM
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Sometimes an abused one. Sometimes cultural difference
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:07 AM
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lack of incentives society offers them to be responsible fathers, husbands and providers. Why isn't partaking in the modern veritable smograsboard of sexual variety such that would make Genghis Khan blush an incentive for more men? Do not that many men enjoy sexual variety?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:07 AM
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Ok let's build the conclusion: men are checked out of any society in which they can't force women to do stuff they don't want to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:06 AM
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Well I'm curious why it would be the case. Aren't you? Men and women are the same species, neither are ants, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:05 AM
1

I use this exact comment of why aren't we blaming the people handing out the trophies pretty often on ppd. Boomers = 🤮 make the mistakes and then blame the victims of the mistakes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:58 PM
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transition to service sector Would you count consultancy/white collar jobs of that nature as service?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:58 PM
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Men are not happy and women are not happy because there are no real men left. Why hasn't women's unhappiness affected their education and income prospects as negatively as men's unhappiness has
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:57 PM
2

The stagnant economies of the west are similar to that of Japan now, a consequence of high government debt and inflation which sucks the life out of the economy, which kills men's rigor, Why does it only kill men's rigor and not women's (or relatively less for women)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:56 PM
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not every man can get a college degree and white collar job Why are more women than men able to do this now
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:56 PM
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Binge on a variety of sexual options that would make Genghis Khan blush?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:55 PM
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So why is it only now a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:55 PM
1

So some men benefitted. Maybe the time has come to apply affirmative action to men in general the way they previously did/have to women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:54 PM
1

But then single women are outearning single men is those men's calculus maybe incorrect?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:53 PM
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I don’t think women outpace men in career/earnings though Well yeah it's limited to single. The mommy track
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:49 PM
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Could spend the money on a string of hookers/grey area fuckin
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:49 PM
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Then how are single women outearning single men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:48 PM
1

Wait i said it's not your fault. My whole point is that it's the people handing out the trophies' fault 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:47 PM
1

Do you think it's always been this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:47 PM
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Maybe it's just frogs boiling in a pot and normalcy bias prevents people from seeing it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:46 PM
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Women don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:45 PM
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Why do women feel it is worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:34 PM
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So is it that women have more incentive than men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:33 PM
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Yeah but, you know, it's not your fault...they're the ones who decided to give you the trophy after all
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:32 PM
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home, wife, kids etc. So these are the primary incentives. I would think sex itself might be an incentive though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:31 PM
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Overall this topic is so vast and deep that it's worthy of carrying a doctor degree. Coming soon to a college near you no doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:30 PM
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That's an interesting perspective. It certainly isn't someone's fault what they are told while growing up, whether man or woman. It reminds me of boomers complaining about millennials and muh trophies Bruh Who the fuck was handing out the trophies?!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:46 PM
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The comment I responded to said We used to be financially and physically dependent on men Used to
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:44 PM
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White women are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:44 PM
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Heh no society lasts forever I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:43 PM
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What should be done instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:35 PM
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Not all women feel this way, obviously, but even fewer men do, I'd imagine. Right that's fair, there's no corresponding narrative. If anything it's the opposite. If one wants to compare to ones ancestors, all else being equal the odds are that men will perceive a downward trajectory while women will perceive an upward trajectory.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:34 PM
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They just didn't vet right 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:33 PM
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F
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:33 PM
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Why should I sacrifice more of my time or happiness just to fit into the standard of someone else's idea of masculinity? There's an argument to be made that college is not masculine, actually. A better life for us with less stress, less humiliation, and with greater gains and a greater dignity waits for us outside this shitty deal. I think these are good goals but I also feel like a lot of men for whatever reason don't feel incentivized to use that time wisely, such as by improving physical fitn…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:31 PM
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Do you think they're doing it as consciously as mgtow? I feel like if anything maybe it's just perceived lack of carrot I'm too ambitious for it, but I sympathize. What keeps you in the game
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:23 PM
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Boomers and Gen X really believed the “boys are easier to raise than girls” lie which led them to not raise their boys at all. Did the generations prior to those generations not believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:22 PM
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It took so long after the end of the war to evolve?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:20 PM
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It ended. And then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:17 PM
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Lol really? Isn't that the whole plot of great Gatsby... Mike Jones "back then hoes didn't want me now I'm hot they all on me" Etc I actually think it's encouraged more than it happens
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:14 PM
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What was there to fight for in, say, the 50s that there isn't now?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:13 PM
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So your suggestion is to go the other country and stick to LTR rather than marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:08 PM
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By all the other “you go girl” queens. Women care way more about status than men. So then applause wouldn't make men feel better anyway. Seems the core is that men are quitting on life/society/etc because women aren't worth the effort
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:06 PM
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Haha great show, I didn't think many other guys watched it🤷‍♂️ They also don't show the divorce fallout They ought to "90 day fiance: sadly ever after"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:05 PM
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Why does it take pussy. It’s not even all that anyway, for men to want an above average life for themselves? It is what it is. I feel like the better question (assuming it's true) is how can this powerful desire be effectively harnessed to inspire the desired result. I see on certain subs where the relationship ends and women try to improve. They lose weight, take a trip, buy a house and it’s celebrated. Why don’t men do that? Some men do, some women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:03 PM
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Well, do most men know how bad divorce is?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:01 PM
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The sex drive is a pretty strong drive. Why not aspire to, well I don't know what to call it other than mail order brides? Basically accumulate wealth, marry a woman from another country.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:00 PM
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But that was in the past. I feel like it's a pretty small segment of women that actually actively carry that chip on their shoulder on a daily basis. Well, maybe it's that they saw their female kin suffer?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:59 PM
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Might be. I'm not sure though if all of them specifically tie it to women in their mind. Maybe subconsciously?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:58 PM
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Take away the possibility of getting married and having children though and I can honestly say I’d be hugely demotivated. Yet it is a tough search
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:57 PM
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How'd it work out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:55 PM
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So as a man in today’s era, do you want to put in 40x as much work as your dad did for a 2.5% chance at success? So men are quitting on life/society/etc. due to lack of suitable opportunities with women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:54 PM
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Women are applauded for doing mediocre paper pushing or middle management jobs, while men who are not in the top positions are told whatever they do is just the bare minimum. Applauded by who though. I feel like men tell each other about promotions and advancement and raises and give each other encouragement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:54 PM
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The ones who are quitting on life/society/etc., are they doing it because they get it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:53 PM
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So women not being worth it is why men are quitting?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:52 PM
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I would have pretty much no motivation to improve my lot and get promoted in my career ever. At all. I literally earn enough to live my life as a single man perfectly comfortably. I wouldn't be busting my hump trying to pass exams and suchlike or anything. So you're saying that you do have sufficient success with women to have ambition toward promotions etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:51 PM
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Modern comforts are also available to women. Why might they be disproportionately impacting men in this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:50 PM
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Those fortunate souls who find TRP or are naturals can emphasize their alpha traits and do just fine, but that's a relatively small pool of men. So basically most guys understand betabux is a shit deal, some of those guys stay driven anyway because they know how to compete sexually, and the rest give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:44 PM
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How so
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:41 PM
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I think a lot of PPD overstate the effect due to their US centric tunnel vision. Different things happen in different countries, I guess ppd mostly focuses on the US, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:41 PM
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Heh, sure, but what about modernity specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:37 PM
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The girls just seemed to be more conscientious about how they study, while boys were more win-or-bust. High school had women and men before too though...has conscientiousness become more important than it used to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:37 PM
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80 years ago a high school diploma could get you a job At that time women were basically not in college at all. What might be the reason women have outpaced men in completing higher education?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:36 PM
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Surely at the least the same assistance that women recieved to help compete with men should be on offer now to help men compete with women, at least if equality is the actual goal of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:34 PM
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I don't think that economy has anything to do with women outpacing men in education. I agree. I mean maybe there's some argument to the contrary, but I'm not aware of it. But at the end of the day, we all got the same diploma so the statistics will be right that women somewhat outperformed men in terms of education. And the statistics are noteworthy. A middling performance is better than not finishing at all. Leaves the question: what is the root cause of more men dropping out than women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:23 PM
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This is the way (Or if you're gonna pay, put the money in an envelope and stick it on the dresser and pay a hooker directly)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:19 PM
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I'm no Canada expert or anything, but haven't they had universal healthcare since the early 80s? And they're one of the world's leading economies even with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:18 PM
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Well it's a tradeoff isn't it? Safety net if things go wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:14 PM
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What do you think is leading to this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:14 PM
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I don't believe that's true...for example, in what way would bad economic policy lead to women outpacing men in terms of education?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 08:55 PM
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Women are now outpacing men in terms of employment and education. In some cases, we are starting to see women outpace men in terms of earning potential. It's a symptom Look a the opioid epidemic. Men are disproportionately the main sufferers of it. as is the opioid use. At the same time, we’ve seen a huge decline in labor participation amongst working class men ages 18-55. As are prime age men exiting the labor force voluntarily Can't get the men to higher wages without treating the root cause W…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 08:51 PM
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Either way, everyone is ugly, inside and out. No u
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 05:39 PM
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Ugh I just want the men’s rights activists to get their shit together and make custody go to dad automatically. It would make this easier because I do suspect a lot of men would send their kids to foster care before they would consider being a single dad. Unfortunate reality. Why is it unfortunate? Isn't your premise here women wanting to give full custody to the dad? What's the difference if she's not raising the kids whether it's dad or foster care? She checked out. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:50 AM
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Wives don't turn a blind eye toward the men cheating/using hookers anymore. No one needs anyone. Everyone should just stop marrying and most of the married people should divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:40 AM
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b) if he doesn’t have money, give full custody to dad and get out of there She can't just force it on him, he can also decline and then kid can become a ward of the state. Checkmate. a) take the man’s money if he has it or That, like, already happens lol. Am I missing something in what you're saying? I agree the women should divorce. The ones that don't are chickenshit status chasers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:37 AM
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UnmaRriagEable men aren't making a choice anyway; MarrIagEable men are modest priority adjustments away from being able to do just that. Even if not the exact same amount as in marriage novelty is vastly preferable ever heard of the Coolidge effect lmao Improve, and fill the dry spells with hookers like their ancestors did (men certainly didn't go celibate once women stopped lying back and thinking of England and popping out children and went frigid. They fucked hookers).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:34 AM
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🤣like I need your invitation get over yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:32 AM
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Best of lib and trad, and you can't do shxt about it 🤣Well how much you can do about it will only be confirmed by whether you are able to attain it from the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:31 AM
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Oh I didn't say women taught them that, I can see how what I said looks that way. men see it as an opportunity to coast because they figure why would they otherwise be expected to give up novelty to fuck the same aging boring pussy day in and day out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:29 AM
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No one thinks incels have the right to complain lmao. No seriously "I don't want to give tell that I failed at neurotic class striving box checking" isn't sufficient either put your big girl pants on and raise the kid alone or BEG your "additional child husband" to have pity on you and stay with you so you can keep roleplaying what a great neurotic class striving box checker you are
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:29 AM
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Unless you're a virgin it's too late for all that take your lib medicine and like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:27 AM
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Women bore of monogamy so not wanting to fuck them can very well mean x years elapsed rather than he is unfuckable Men bore of monogamy, and would try if they werent tricked into thinking a wife is an opportunity to coast.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:25 AM
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It's whatever her alternatives are. If she has no better alternatives she should shut the fuck up. If she has better alternatives she should exercise them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:24 AM
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compensating women's labor for giving birth, Many women are doing it without your demanded bribe. They're "hoes"? Your words 🤣 You are just shit posting, You are just incapable of defending your own ill-conceived (🤣) argument Liberation = race to the bottom
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:22 AM
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I say here all the time modern marriage is a gross prison for all involved divorce today is a blessing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:21 AM
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Men doing no housework also leads to their wives divorcing them, which is a lot less sex. They didn't really want the sex with the same aging boring pussy anyway, hence the lack of desire to put in effort. Win win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:21 AM
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But in many cases, even if you get a man who is willing to do reproductive labour, he still expects to be managed and told what to do. Aww poor victim she can go raise the kid alone then
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:20 AM
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Well no girl is a virgin anymore so what's the difference? Gotta do the same thing you'd have to do anyway get a paternity test
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:19 AM
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She's free to leave at any time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:18 AM
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Plus I have the ability/burden of putting my body through hell to bring children into the world so we can be a family and you can pass on your precious seed. There's women doing that now not only without demanding marriage but sometimes even a real name 🤣 middle class martyr men giving in to the neurotic class striving of their cohort women who may not even pop out any children from her highness are idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:18 AM
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🤣women don't even demand marriage to get knocked up any more some of them don't even demand a real name
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:14 AM
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If so, mistakenly. Average women are the highest maintenance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:07 AM
3

This is the way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 06:44 AM
7

Facilitating societywide exploitation....kinda like farming of men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 06:14 AM
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I have my own religious explanations for it that I'm not going to go into in a subreddit full of people who have an utterly soulless idea of the opposite sex. Nah come on let's hear it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 03:41 AM
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whereas women get shamed for even dating 2 guys in the same year. "Shame" doesn't stop em from dating many more than that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 03:39 AM
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Then that forces us to send random inbox messages to the opposite sex using social media making us look like creeps. Forces? Just pay. Hooker/sugar etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:44 PM
1

Well, you tell me: what good is complaining about complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:22 PM
1

You were complaining about the complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:18 PM
1

Bitching about it isn't stopping it 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:16 PM
1

Right, that would be the inference. So is it true, or false?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:46 PM
1

It is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:42 PM
1

So you believe men are rapey, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:41 PM
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Tell you what the reality is without hesitation 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:51 PM
0

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis#:~:text=The%20just%2Dworld%20fallacy%20or,and%20evil%20actions%20eventually%20punished.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:50 PM
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Saying you should go ahead and separate yourself from men isn't rapey
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:30 PM
1

Oh noooo ...see?!...back to: fuck you gonna do about it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:30 PM
1

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:26 PM
1

Separate yourself from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:26 PM
1

Whose stopping anyone from treating all men as sexual predators
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:18 PM
1

Separate. Don't let your ass hit the door on your way out
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:15 PM
1

Well, you are the proof of just that, I guess. Thanks, men Fuck you gonna do about it 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:14 PM
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Men. Same as usual No, how are men fucking stopping you from avoiding men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:12 PM
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So we should just avoid men altogether. Whose fucking stopping you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:10 PM
0

They're incentivized by not wanting to get raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:08 PM
1

Why would men agree to this lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:07 PM
1

A prevention would also be to not allow men to be around women who are drinking. Yes let's bring back chaperones and patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:00 PM
1

Ah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 06:45 PM
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How are they different
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 04:36 PM
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Oh I'm not saying you shouldn't care, I'm saying that suitable options aren't on offer in said society
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 03:57 PM
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If she is not entitled to a relationship, then not giving her one isn't taking advantage of the situation or exploiting her If you say "I'll ship you a car if you wire me $12,000", and then don't ship the car, that's taking advantage, because they were entitled to the car. But a relationship? Lmao how long is there an obligation to be in the relationship before it's no longer exploitation. It's like women see it when it comes to sex "no one's entitled to my body" but a relationship involves a bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 03:21 PM
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Is it possible to learn how to flirt? Even if you hate the idea of doing it? It's a natural inclination to have fun. It's dangerous to rely on alcohol but trying it out can sometimes be of help
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 01:05 AM
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Above you're relying on "spreading information" to transform society, but there will always be defectors. Like guys who are "simps", kind of lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 01:03 AM
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Not you in particular, but as far as societal
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:51 AM
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Compete with other women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:39 AM
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I believe very few women would choose to have sex with a man just for sex. How will the other women compete without a patriarchy to make these women look bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:35 AM
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Well there's no perfect solution. What's a better one?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:16 AM
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Well, it can't be piecemeal. The yearning for chaperone and patriarchy needs to be recognized for what it is to bring about said transformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:08 AM
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So chaperones and patriarchy, I mean right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:36 PM
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Hah well you see, that's what "no sex until marriage" was all about, as even "an LTR" is a promise built on air castles. "Oh sure we're totes in a relationship". Is this just about covering the two weeks of post-sex pregnancy potential lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:31 PM
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Oh fine It's simply not accurate to describe it as "using" where all she has to do if she wants sex to be tied to commitment, marriage, a goat sacrifice, whatever, is keep her whore legs closed to simply not have sex until she has recieved said commitment, marriage, or goat sacrifice. What does she need chaperones and patriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:29 PM
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I said that I love using people. So it's not a matter of defending my personal honor or anything. It's simply not accurate to describe it as "using" where all she has to do if she wants sex to be tied to commitment, marriage, a goat sacrifice, whatever, is keep her whore legs closed. What does she need chaperones and patriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:53 PM
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Well not with the accuracy of whether that constitutes "using". She wants commitment to be tied to sex? She can keep her whore legs closed till she gets commitment 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:43 PM
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You don't like the accurate way your actions are being described. I love using people. It's certainly better than the opposite, as you seem to have learned well and are suffering from hourly. I just want to be accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:37 PM
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You can only be used if you were entitled to something but not given it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:35 PM
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Characterizing it as "being used" is the entitlement to the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:20 PM
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Asserting she was entitled to his commitment because she put out is not fine. I've never seen a woman do that? Can you give me an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:09 PM
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So don't fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:33 PM
2

Maybe it's the bubble of pretty women successfully induce more effort from their mates
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:32 PM
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Only people who disconnect from the first world and live in the forest (etc) have the right to express that it is wrong. I am not and don't plan to do any such thing. Therefore, I don't have the right to express that it is wrong. And if you live in the first world, neither do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:22 PM
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It's something we all do in a first world country regardless of whether it is right or wrong. Accusing others in the first world of exploitation when it's the baseline for all in the first world to begin with doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:18 PM
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Well then you're misunderstanding why I'm saying it. Did you miss the part where I said Talking about exploitation we've all got that blood on our hands
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:11 PM
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"oh he's such an asshole fuckboy he used me for sex" etc. Happens a million times a day
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:03 PM
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I know (or assumed at least) just playing it out for the readers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:39 PM
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No seriously do it re peepee: Just outsource to other countries boom problem solved "Muh exploitation" Hah....say the women who unironically binge on fast casual fashion made by literal bangladeshi slaves Talking about exploitation we've all got that blood on our hands
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:36 PM
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Other numbers that matter: (Greater) salary/bank account balance number (Greater) height number
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:32 PM
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Ok don't put out for anyone? I'm not sure I follow what you're saying here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:31 PM
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This seems like an appropriate time to feel hurt? She should use that hurt to understand what happened and not assume that she can be physically affectionate with someone and if they respond, it automatically means they feel the same way. She should use the hurt to understand she needs to get commitment before she is sexual or she will continue to experience this again and again. Feeling hurt is fine. Asserting she was entitled to his commitment because she put out is not fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:30 PM
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I'd just do me, and keep a hooker on speed dial to break up the dry spells. This is the way Oh sure like keep improving or whatever but fill the dry spells
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:15 AM
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In a relationship a women will always lose because men expect to be catered to at all times. Easy enough Don't commit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:45 AM
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The “uncomfortable truth” is that many men don’t have the mental capacity to realize thy have the actual capability to frame/game/presence-max. Isn't said lack of mental capacity ultimately the same destination lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:34 AM
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Mocking font lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:17 PM
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I'm saying marriage is a boring prison for all involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 10:37 PM
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From what I've observed among my friends and during my own divorce, it's because men are more prone to monkey-branching (funny they usually accuse women of doing so). They usually don't want to end a relationship, no matter how unfulfilling, unless they have someone else already lined up. Women are better at having backup mates lined up. Men should take notes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 10:11 PM
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Research indicates that divorced men have a higher rate of mental health issues compared to never-married, separated, and widowed men, as well as divorced women. Indeed, one study found that divorced men were eight times more likely to kill themselves compared to divorced women. This implies that the psychosocial experience of divorce and the subsequent singledom can be especially painful for these typically older men Can't get divorced if you never marry For example, one study found over double…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 10:09 PM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 07:50 PM
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Anyway one of our resident racelords reminds me of the character Stormfront. Lol like the website
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 06:09 PM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:10 PM
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Even without a queue, no one should tolerate boredom or dissatisfaction. It's not like people need each other anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:06 PM
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One too many "that's what she said" jokes, Why do you hate them so lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:04 PM
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and as soon as he grows bored it's rinse and repeat. This is the way
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:59 PM
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Lol if bleach meant more free time, less nagging, and no obstacle to fucking new pussy instead of the same aging, boring face, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:33 PM
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Time to start communicating... ...with a divorce lawyer
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 07:06 AM
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childcare. 🤣Let her raise the kid alone Cleaning cooking If only they know how cheaply they could hire an illegal to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 06:16 AM
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Guys who care are better off not comitting rather than settling
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:43 AM
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Mark my words, professional prostitution will reign supreme. Just make sure to videotape it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:41 AM
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Lmao just posted the same thing Full text What if internet distractions are like the equalizing buzzer earpiece!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:22 AM
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THE YEAR WAS 2081, and everybody was finally equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:21 AM
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Reminds me of the Vonnegut short story Harrison Bergeron THE YEAR WAS 2081, and everybody was finally equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:18 AM
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The dress code is designed so that we cannot tell the gender of another without great difficulty. Does it cover the face too?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:12 AM
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Lol extract like a black widow and then find the next victim mark partner. I don't know if you were necessarily implying that it's better But it isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:10 AM
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Women bond to one and only one 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:58 AM
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You stated as though "muh fuckyfucky" is the only possible reason guy wouldn't be filing. That's how that comment read. Ah well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:26 AM
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Ok so you misstated
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:17 AM
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They yearn for chaperones and patriarchy but are too coy to name it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 11:31 PM
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If this triggers you, then there’s your reason, it’s because men often want a bang mommy and then get upset when she doesn’t want to hear you complain about her not wanting to have sex with you after cleaning up after you all day, every day, like a giant man child with no self awareness. Yeah for sure marriage is bad for women stop fucking getting married and shut the fuck up already (not you specifically, of course)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 11:20 PM
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For a man, having a woman around you can fuck is much better than nothing at all How do you explain men who stay married to women who don't fuck them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 11:18 PM
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That fucker is never going to file. Why aren't you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 11:18 PM
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It’s likely women who are apart this demographic that are complaining. Ok, maybe. Any woman who earns even one penny less should shut the fuck up. Actually, all of them should, because their choices are to accept their situation of raise the kid alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:47 PM
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I'm talking about on average. Leisure time is a choice it's not men's fault women are boring neurotics with no hobbies But adding up paid and unpaid labor, on average it is equal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:15 PM
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To quote a now deceased doctor who was married 7 times. "You know why divorce is expensive? Because its worth it!" 🤣No need to divorce if you never marry
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:10 PM
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What about women who post nudes of themselves on r/gonewild (NSFW obviously) for free? Who is "coercing" them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:08 PM
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The same could be said regarding just about any topic that's discussed on PPD. I believe it's an understood assumption that discussing these matters doesn't change the fact that each individual must decide for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:06 PM
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I explained the opinion. If men by and large don't respect women, then women marrying appears to be a poor idea. You're welcome to address said assertion, or not 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:02 PM
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Your stats don't appear to break down paid work by gender, but [this pew research study](chapter 6: Time in Work and Leisure, Patterns by Gender and Family Structure https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/03/14/chapter-6-time-in-work-and-leisure-patterns-by-gender-and-family-structure/?utm_source=pocket-app&utm_medium=share) both does that AND includes housework, And it shows that when you add up paid and unpaid labor men and women contribute equal hours
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:59 PM
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You do know where you're posting right. A debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:55 PM
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Gets me every time that you wrote that awesome post and still think monogamy is a good idea! It is a trap!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:55 PM
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I suspect it is because by and large men don’t respect women. Seems like a good reason for women to, you know, stop marrying
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:54 PM
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This is the way
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:53 PM
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Yep commitment is dumb if you gotta grind anyway might as well grind for new pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:38 PM
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I consistently say that marriage is a bad idea for both genders. Some argue women get even more bored. But I'm a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:11 PM
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Feminists etc will say it's because women have to do all the work anyway and this is just another example of it 🤣 I think filing isn't necessary demonstrative of who wanted the divorce. Filing isn't the proof that women cause most divorces. It's probably a downward spiral of man gets bored of the same aging boring pussy and thought marriage makes it ok to coast (why else give up on new pussy if it isn't?), woman get frustrated with lack of trying, spiral continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:46 PM
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without engaging in unconscious bias or discrimination Seems literally impossible. I think cultural fit is just a euphemism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:04 PM
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Do you feel this law is adequate, or that it should be taken further
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:02 PM
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Did the law go far enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:56 PM
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Yeah I mean commitment is dumb the people who feel such things should consider, you know, not committing. Discards such entanglements.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:56 PM
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Which one
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:52 PM
0

Did the law go far enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:51 PM
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Often the term is used when referring to relationships. It's something women complain about as well. The friends part has a simple solution: just don't be friends with people you don't want to be friends with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:49 PM
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It seems to me that beyond having sex completely sober, the rest is all rolling the dice if one feels vetting is required, and unlike n count, vetting wrongly can mean prosecution (maybe she didn't seem evil or crazy...until the relationship ended)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:44 PM
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Wonder why.... Because they can. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:40 PM
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If that's what was aimed to be avoided, wouldn't the legislation have simply said that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:34 PM
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There is, in my view, a concerted effort by the feminist movement at large to essentially shame men for having their own views, desires, and preferences. I'm not going to be shamed into submission. They can't shame you into submission if you choose not to, but neither is there any objective thing to point to in order to determinatively conclude that such preferences aren't misogynist. It's an opinion. It can be argued against, but then what.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:34 PM
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Who cares what they think Anyone may have whatever preferences and expectations they want Thing is, the only way any of this can be maintained is if you are free to discard immediately upon your preferences and expectations not being met Once you marry, you are no longer free to discard immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:28 PM
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I think the jist is that even if the alleged victim didn't say no, it's still rape if she didn't say yes, unless the defendant can establish he had a reasonable belief that the alleged victim consented
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:02 PM
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Haha consent can be revoked I guess "i said yes in the text but changed my mind"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 06:53 PM
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Haha same no doubt, I think some of them do, the ones that want to but don't it's probably just fear of stigma or something
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:47 PM
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Haha yeah!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:28 PM
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You've really never heard "oh it wasn't serious we were just having fun"? Used to indicate a fling. Many other such uses. Might be an antiquated and/or class specific thing but it is definitely a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:14 PM
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Since when did “having fun” become a euphemism for sex? Since forever. Even if you specifically didn't mean it that way
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:09 PM
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If she lies, it will most likely come to bite her in the ass. This is just world fallacy. A bunch of secret tinder hookups will remain secret, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:08 PM
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She can just lie though. There's no community verification anymore. A guy now just has to assume she's been around and do whatever follows from that assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:06 PM
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Declining sex drive over time?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:51 PM
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The latter sounds so pathetic compared to the former lol not gonna lie Men: be better than everyone Women: convince some loser to be less a of a loser to her 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:48 PM
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It's because you're not josh allen
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:47 AM
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I'm hearing $12,500
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:40 AM
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It's like when a woman says "I'd rather die than have sex with [whatever unattractive dude]"...it's unironically! I take all kinds of risks for my sex drive though lol I can't blame em for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:38 AM
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They're picky in a way that increases their danger lmao that's where the "risk v worth the risk" tradeoff actually becomes worthwhile! It's like when a woman says "I'd rather die than have sex with [whatever unattractive dude]"...it's unironically! I take all kinds of risks for my sex drive though lol I can't blame em for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:38 AM
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I believe it's called hobosexual
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 09:00 PM
1

That's a really good point disgust threshold
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:03 PM
1

Yep neurotic box checking
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 07:36 PM
0

So everyone are just different brands of fascism. Everyone is longing to be told how to make sense of the anarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 07:22 PM
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There's a few women on Twitter that are super funny but it's so dark that there's probably a lot of emotional trauma that comes along with it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:13 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:56 PM
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This whole concept of "men and women being friends" is brand new relative to history
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:55 PM
1

Sure, what's wrong with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:52 PM
1

Comprehensive! I wonder if paid sex has gone up or down over time/during the sexual liberation era.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:51 PM
1

I pretty consistently say marriage is a bad idea for both genders. Focus is that it's bad idea for men being one myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:47 PM
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Uberclass and underclass, accelerated. Then again, it's lonely at the top lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:51 AM
1

Exploiting to the maximum legally permissible is not complying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:50 AM
1

I like where this is going
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:49 AM
1

Failing to remember lessons is itself recurrent, inevitable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:34 AM
1

So why not try to make life the best it can be for you? That's all I ever try to do lol. The stuff you're talking about requires cooperation, however, and one hand clapping just gets tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:34 AM
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Or to glean the insight that one is better off not committing in such an environment. Much more powerful when it comes from a place of choosing it rather than it being chosen for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:29 AM
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Anything that happens is natural, even if different from what the old natural was. Of course I get what you mean. People who once died live. But to what end? Maybe vaccines don't cause autism, but keep some.people alive who otherwise would've been killed off by disease, who grow up to exhibit autism (or some other "undesirable trait"). If they don't end up reproducing, how much difference was made to nature? An animal species evolving a way to find prey better or avoid predators better also keep…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:28 AM
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On a long enough time horizon it doesn't end well for any person/society/civilization/species/planet/solar system/galaxy/universe
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:25 AM
1

Well sure, no civilization lasts forever regardless. Everything is temporary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:24 AM
1

Natural selection eventually selects some species out of existence. That, too, might be on the menu.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:22 AM
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We might be in a different type of phase where it's self perpetuating regardless due to advancement, like idiocracy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:21 AM
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Yeah could be that beyond a certain point advancement is selected against
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:17 AM
5

Natural selection is agnostic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:15 AM
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Enforced monogamy got us to this point. It's an open question where whatever one would call what we have now will take us. Only time will tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:11 AM
2

Maybe iq isn't fitness
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:10 AM
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Bravo, inspiring, but then you wake up the next day and you need a plan Here is that plan: Keep improving Fill the dry spells with hookers (a smograsboard of variety on offer today that would make Genghis Khan blush)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 07:36 AM
2

Oh for sure I always say around here it's a great idea, I just wonder what so many guys nowadays get thrown off about it for
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 06:51 AM
2

Just make it a porn video1 1 Consult your legal advisor 2 2 this is not legal advice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 06:34 AM
1

Are you using plenty of fish or something
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 06:10 AM
3

Strip clubs are the worst like damn if you're gonna pay why pay for a tease
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 06:09 AM
3

🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:33 AM
1

When in Rome
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:51 AM
3

But then people within the same subculture/class can often make widely diverging decisions on this stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:51 AM
1

No one cares about the why I feel like all kinds of "whys" are discussed on ppd that most people don't care about, but fair
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:20 AM
1

Feels good doe
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:18 AM
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I then ask her if she'd date someone who used to pay for sex but doesn't anymore, which prompts a block from her. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:47 AM
3

Feel better brah
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:42 AM
1

Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:39 AM
10

It'll all be casual or paid
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:38 AM
4

But about 69% of men in the U.S. who are 18-24 have had sex in the last year, and in the age 25-34 age bracket, the percentage goes up to about 86%. Isn't the threshold in that study once in the past year
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:38 AM
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What difference does it make if women care or not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:37 AM
2

Many men will fuck fatties but not date them. Why is this? I'd rather use a fleshlight & porn or pay to see an escort. I have a modicum of self respect All pussies feel the same in the dark
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:34 AM
1

That makes sense. I wonder differentiates the neighbors that do from the ones that don't. Maybe something genetic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:32 AM
1

Ah utilitarian. I think it's kind of impossible because the pendulum never stats in one place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:28 AM
4

This is the way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:26 AM
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I believe after a certain duration of use it lowers sex drive. Which, you know, might be a benefit of the bargain depending where you see things. But something to consider all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:26 AM
2

Only time will tell what amount is the right amount. What do you think is the right amount
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:24 AM
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It is gross, imprisoning brainwashing. A true obstacle to real liberation
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:23 AM
2

Well I'm not really sure I think it's effeminate that so many men think they're too good to pay hookers now
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:21 AM
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Being forced to marry young and not have sex outside of marriage wasn't ideal for them either. They had hookers and mistresses
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:18 AM
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I agree. I wonder what stops guys
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:05 AM
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I get attention now, but I don't like women so I don't date a lot, I'm not really using my top 20%ness. Why risk the roids. Could that be having an impact
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:04 AM
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This is the way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:03 AM
0

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:59 AM
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In the end, gotta provide value somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:59 AM
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Would you consider it if someone paid you? What would be the minimum? Hypothetically, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:57 AM
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Fair. I always say around here the way to go is to keep improving and fill the dry spells with paying. Where do you search?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:39 AM
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Fair. What are the specific drivers is a point of curiosity for me. Maybe it's unknowable. They should really study it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:34 AM
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Oh sure. I think the idea is to keep working on improving and fill the dry spells with hookers until sufficiently improved such that it's not an untenable amount of work
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:31 AM
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Makes me wonder how they can differ so greatly
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:30 AM
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Lol what I mean is some are willing to, and some aren't. What differentiates them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:06 AM
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This is the way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:05 AM
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Well there's ones for different budgets I guess. It's a pretty personal decision how much it's worth paying to give it a go
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:59 AM
1

How much money would you have to save up to feel that it's inconsequential
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:54 AM
1

Some women are down for it 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:54 AM
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you're better off getting a dog for companionship and seeing sex workers instead. You can also keep trying simultaneously lol not mutually exclusive with attempting dating
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:44 AM
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I wonder if the differences in perception are driven by genetics in some way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:39 AM
2

Can't imagine an orgasm is ever worth paying Ever done it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:35 AM
1

Can't imagine an orgasm is ever worth paying Ever done it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:35 AM
2

Definitely true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:10 AM
1

Oh the ones who jump to "break up"? Yeah it becomes a whole mob mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:09 AM
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Why bother you already gave her the advice they will give here there 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 11:26 PM
1

https://twitter.com/jenniferdown/status/1108665182270611456?s=19
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 11:23 PM
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Meanwhile there are girls who are with guys who like to go out all the time who are like "why do you like to go out all the time" lol comfort and excitement are constantly dueling enemies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 10:42 PM
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It doesn't have to be like a neurotic calculation the way class striving neurotics plan their box checking strategies lmao...you think about it once, you do what is appropriate reflexively, and you enjoy yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 09:59 PM
1

Maybe not, but all that persuades me of is that commitment was never worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 09:57 PM
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But at least the marriage was permanent rather than today's glorified quickie, the woman didn't complain and compete for exactly equal hours, the woman was chaste, many ways the tale has changed. And so have the alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 09:29 PM
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Or people who really enjoy it and just want to maximize their return
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 09:15 PM
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They don't know up front what kind of nagging and boredom will be imposed on them. Why do women prefer doing the thing if it's so bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 09:14 PM
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Whatever you say, bud
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 07:54 PM
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It's virtually always exploitative, both of the other and of the self
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 05:26 PM
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I was referring to the guys abandoning responsibility. That's how it goes. Women ought to learn to protect their own interests, it is common knowledge now that men on average won't contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 04:36 PM
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Settling isn't reasonable. Maybe it was when people needed to run a farm and children didn't automatically live into adulthood lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 04:30 PM
0

Pretty good deal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 03:24 PM
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If he can do it, and others can do it, so can I 🤷‍♂️fuck you gonna do about it whine more 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 03:24 PM
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Sure, if you dont mind someone cleaning your mess like you were a child. I know I would feel bad about it but you do you. Do the guys feel bad about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:55 PM
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paranoia and high inhibition combined with a tinge of narcissism (wanting to be her best lover by default rather than by trying to listen to her) and an LARGE scoop of jealousy (not being able to handle a small past) Every preference is nArCissIsm. I'm extremely uninhibited. Settling is what is inhibitory. Jealousy? So what? I'm imbued by desire for virginity as a cross cultural male universal. Odds are you want it too. You're just settling. Settling is disgusting, especially when a man can have…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 11:08 AM
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The pool of MarrIagEable men are healthier and wealthier So yeah I did consider it They'd be even happier without being burdened by the same aging boring face who whines like a homeless beggar about muh unpaid labor
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 11:05 AM
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Here in Mexico women still do everything in the house and all the child care. I see my married friends juggling their jobs, child care, house chores and cooking daily while their husbands usually play video games. Add online school to that and they are going crazy. I'm guessing the women don't complain? Sounds like a good deal for the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 05:55 AM
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are gonna be shit out of luck too, Better than settling
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 05:22 AM
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12%. It's like saying 6'0"+ only
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 04:01 AM
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So you want them all to live in Seattle
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 03:42 AM
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Are you talking about america? I think it's men who are fooled into marriage but I'm not opposed to the idea it's bad for women too, and all should be educated against it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 03:13 AM
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Time will tell 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:39 AM
1

Good thing abortion will be banned soon
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:38 AM
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Women complain about marriage too, as this thread shows. Yet they marry. Whose the baby again?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:25 AM
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No one's holding a gun to her head to sign up for it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:24 AM
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They didn't shut down immigration as part of the package.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:23 AM
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Women still have abortions when it's illegal. All that changes is they have to operate under the shadow of it being illegal. The supreme court is going to overturn roe v Wade Then once republicans retake the government a ban will be passed. That's what
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:23 AM
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What will never happen, abortion ban? Sure it will. RemindMe! May 24, 2027
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:17 AM
2

Progressives of course think the government should bring in some immigrants to undercut me and drive down my wages. Apparently they're only for a living wage when it's something bestowed by the government. If it's the natural consequence of a tight labor market, they're outraged and insist I'm making too much money, lol. Well, you know, can't deport 11 million people. Maybe technically you can. Better idea seems to be amnesty everyone who is here so there's no readily available under the table s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:14 AM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:12 AM
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And once abortion is banned, it'll be same for women...consent to unprotected sex = consent to pregnancy 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:34 AM
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No need for such. Any damn thing a man wants -- sex, adventure, even siring children -- he can have without a woman to live in your space
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:30 AM
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sounds very r/wowthanksimcured
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:09 AM
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That's life suck it up that "third child" is the only thing standing in the way of her being considered a failure at neurotic box checking. She should be begging him to not leave, or she should give up on checking the boxes. People who aren't honest with themselves about their lot in life deserve no pity, because it's just trying to neurotically have it all. Maybe they need electroshock therapy lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:05 AM
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leaving him seems too unpredictable. More like they don't want the stigma of being a single mom/failing at neurotically checking the boxes of life milestones
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:03 AM
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I’m a fat fuck now after quarantine sitting at 210 but I don’t let it affect me. I just know my smv is hindered, therefore I don’t have any expectations of getting a very hot gf or anyone I’m immensely attracted to until I drop about 30lbs. How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:02 AM
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This is the point: as insufferable as it is, the alternative is clearly worse. If it weren't, they would go with the alternative. They are complaining about the price they have to pay for their meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:01 AM
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It is very clear that some do not
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:59 AM
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The most complaints I see are from women who work just as much as he does, but then also come home and work unendingly while he puts his feet up and says, “what’s for dinner babe.” Great so raise the kid alone. You say some of them do. I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about the ones who whine like homeless beggars but don't put their money where their mouth is and raise the kid alone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:56 AM
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Great I'm not talking about the ones who put their money where their mouth is I'm talking about the ones who whine like homeless beggars but don't take the plunge
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:53 AM
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Population seems to be controlling itself to some extent at least Global population is declining for first time in recorded history...it's in today's NYT
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:51 AM
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If it’s so easy... men should do it for the household instead. Sounds like a simple fix. If it's so hard why add the "husband additional child you have to raise" lmao she can raise the kid herself then
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:50 AM
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Seeing that nuance also makes it hard to figure out what to push for, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:49 AM
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Lol nah most of those girls knew I was weirded out. Coombrain it is I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:46 AM
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More than wealthier women as well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:46 AM
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Fair enough The counterrevolution is coming Modernity only goes in one direction. Some people will retort that it's a pendulum. Time will tell I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:45 AM
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It's like saying I'd like to see people go back to not being able to call someone on a telephone and see how they like it. Yeah, people get used to things, but it's not because they're indispensable. People lived their lives fine without telephones.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:37 AM
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Unironically it's the girls that always wanted the gross shit in my experience. I went along with it the first few times but that's about it. I'll take women's word for it that that's what men now want I guess 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:32 AM
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Apparently none of you live in the parts of the US where there is a high proprtion of illegals
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:26 AM
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Thay isn't what's currently happening. Poor are having more children and more likely to raise them alone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:20 AM
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Work life balance in an advocacy sense still generally implies less work for same amount of money/purchasing power
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:15 AM
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It's like saying that's what she said
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:08 AM
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Does bolding the text make you think more people will see it Tbh wouldn't have seen it otherwise lol I just wanted to see how long the thread was can't really tell what is being discussed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:04 AM
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Oh come on you just left it out there hanging Men pay to have sex with me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:51 PM
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No not afford a housewife I mean afford to outsource
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:38 PM
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Men even pay to have sex with me Men also pay to have sex with crack addicts in an alley. No doubt you are going to respond with many qualifiers but this was too low hanging of fruit to resist!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:30 PM
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I’ve paid domestics and contractors. You want good work, you don’t skimp Do you live somewhere with a high supply of illegal labor? Anyway I feel like I'm getting off track here, so I'll stipulate to whatever amount you feel is correct. A MarrIagEable man can afford it because otherwise he wouldn't be MarrIagEable in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:27 PM
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Oh for me to want to marry. Yeah it would be worse than people who marry delusionally because at least they can assure themselves that they didn't know any better
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:26 PM
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You can feel hurt by something without forcing yourself on someone lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:21 PM
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Stick the money in an 📨 and put it on the dresser
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:18 PM
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They're also legal. Entitled Americans not working hard also applies to this matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:18 PM
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Stop bitching and put your money where your mouth is: if it's so bad and "husband is additional child", raise the kid alone. In the meantime, consider that on average it's equal when you add up hours worked inside and outside the home. Why aren't women's complaints that men should work more hours inside the home accompanied by advocating for men to work fewer hours outside the home? Because that is unthinkable to women, as they insist on maximal extraction from males (who they aren't randomly me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:16 PM
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cleaning up after husbands So raise the kid alone 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:14 PM
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Any to back up yours of "McDonald's service"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:13 PM
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Hah marry I'm not even going to commit again lmao. Why do you ask, do you believe that somehow disqualifies me from discussing my opinion of the tradeoffs?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:13 PM
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On the other hand, there is a smograsboard of sexual variety on offer the likes of which would make genghis Khan blush
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:12 PM
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Modern women offer very little of this in marriage, and when they do, they vociferously complain. Anyone with half a brain would assiduously reject the bargain (probably goes for women too)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:08 PM
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Always the possibility of divorce might as well cut out the middleman. Besides illegal probably cooks better than the modern woman time in that household might be only time getting decent home cooked meal
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:08 PM
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Yikes that has got to be a blow to the self lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:07 PM
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Username almost checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 09:59 PM
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Pay an illegal $8/hr boom problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 09:51 PM
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Paying an illegal $8/hr isn't hard, at least for the MarrIagEable men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 09:51 PM
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1958
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 09:50 PM
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That'll be tree fiddy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 08:03 PM
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. Q For the ladies do ya’ll actually think smiley sunshine cheery mfs are more attractive?? There are studies that unsmiling photos of men are more attractive. Who knows lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 08:03 PM
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I won!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 08:00 PM
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The ideal world for a TRPer is one in which there are a few very promiscuous women who will freely have sex with them when men are horny They used to be called "prostitutes" But because we live in a "declining" world where women can express themselves sexually freely with high-value men, it's up to men to improve themselves if they want to have sex with high-value "Stacies". Most Red Pillers don't really think that modest "Beckies" actually exist. There are promiscuous Stacies and promiscuous Be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:54 PM
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Preferential treatment, for one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:50 PM
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I'm not saying guys shouldn't care. They should. I care. I'm saying suitable options aren't on offer in modern culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:45 PM
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You can do all of those simultaneously
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:40 PM
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Women here complain about muh men chase Stacies and then complain when men complain about the reverse There's more than enough hypocrisy to go around for serval lifetimes. Only solution is to own it. There's no hYpoCriSy jAiL. There is only maximizing one's value to get as much as one can.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:23 PM
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I like if I’m with him and strangers approach us he’d do the talking 😂 Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:21 PM
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Ah I see they want to date a fun slutty girl first and then marry you. How is this any different than women wanting to date hit fun guys and then marry beta providers? Or do you acknowledge its not different
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:18 PM
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Depends if they're at the fun stage or the extraction stage 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:16 PM
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Men want modesty and chastity but they also want a woman to sleeps with them within a certain time frame or they get mad when she doesn’t want to do anal or indulge in his other fetishes. Reliable track record of modesty and chastity is not on offer in current culture. This as the old line feminists used to say, have to treat all the MnMs as poisoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:15 PM
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Not all hot girls sleep around, while not all non-hot girls are "modest"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:12 PM
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I'm talking about the ones that didn't 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:09 PM
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If the opt out is within the abortion window, then the mom is made aware while it's still her decision that if she neverheless wants the kid, she will have to raise it alone. Thank God she'll have to break the law soon to get an abortion 🍾 then no opt out as we have now makes perfect sense
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:07 PM
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That is true, but then the legitimacy can I think create even more cognitive dissonance. If you're camming there is already an element of you're going against the grain, whereas the pageant is like something wholly socially condoned (well maybe not anymore) Overall you're probably right though. I guess as a guy I can at most speculate what it would feel like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:17 PM
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I think it's like many other forms of what is now called objectification, where it's a double edged sword. Wielding one's beauty is of course going to feel powerful in most instances, but there will always be tradeoffs, potentially life alteringly damaging ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:10 PM
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Regardless, whining about child support doesn't change child support. It is a very real thing, and the fact is that it creates a perverse incentive for unfit parents to fight for more time with child (which they then sometimes don't even actually take in reality, but it's too costly/time consuming to go back and tell the court "hey order might say 50% but he's not even seeing the kid 25%!) my take on child support is that it's the woman's choice whether the child is born at all: If women have ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:08 PM
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are beauty pageants sexist or empowering Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:05 PM
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They are and they should, especially when child is young.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:04 PM
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All, or none
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:02 PM
2

If affirmative action were based on poverty, white women wouldn't be its biggest beneficiaries. Under.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:02 PM
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feels iffy It's the primal, lizard desire to extract resources of some kind, perhaps
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:00 PM
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Hot women and ugly women are the best. Average women are the worst
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 03:30 PM
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even though there is literally no time in history We are in a different time. Men can get casual sex by having the right priorities...at least MarrIagEable ones. And if they're not MarrIagEable it's not a choice for them anyway. The ones that can't/while they can't, better off paying directly while they're working at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 03:29 PM
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initial attraction “ is only temporary.. That's all that matters because in this culture valid, reliable permanence is not on offer. Get dick wet, discard when inconvenient, on to the next one When women become experienced in life, they aren’t looking for the same things they were young.. Ie when they are no longer worth a damn. A woman's primary value is beauty, which they possess mostly when they are young I literally posted something that was supposed to shed light and I’m getting attacked fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 03:16 PM
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In otherwords, when we were in the Stone Age, the dominant male got the female.. in modern day this is no longer the case.. Society is an affectation. What women are viscerally attracted to hasn't changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 03:08 PM
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Aside from a couple of them generally mental illness = "doesn't engage in socially acceptable behavior". It's like an earthquake: doesn't really matter if ther are no buildings. Similarly, 'bipolar" or "ADD" are effective survival adaptation in the right context, just not in the context of complex societies where people mostly live like domesticated animals
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 03:07 PM
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For one thing, commitment is different from dating. I'll "date" just about anyone lol. For another, a lot of people settle, compromise, give up on what they actually want, but I'm not sure that's such a good idea. There's two types i guess: maximizers and satisfiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:13 AM
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I'm interested in that visceral reaction -- I guess some do and some don't. When it first happened I thought I must be the only one who feels this way, what with mainstream messaging and all. Soon I realized it's far from just me. Even if it was just me, though, I'd still abide
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 06:46 AM
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It's a widely cited study 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:01 AM
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He didn't treat his girlfriend well either. Some people don't treat other people well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 03:41 AM
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Well whatever it is, it's not gendered. (It's titled why happy people cheat but the examples are all women)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 03:17 AM
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Women can be funny
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 02:51 AM
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Being rejected by an attractive man makes women cruel to other men Maybe you're projecting lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 02:50 AM
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It reeks of a very strong approval seeking personality. That's a pretty common human trait doe
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 02:48 AM
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There are precautions you can take if you decide to There's this idea that the people who end up divorced must not have vetted properly or weren't good partners or otherwise did something wrong Either way, it's not the risk for me that does it but the visceral reaction. Images. I didn't think it used to matter at all, then once I started committing, I realized committing to women with sexual pasts is not for me. Is what it is I reckon
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 02:47 AM
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did go out it was to someplace other than my hometown. I read this the first time as hometown buffet
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 02:44 AM
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why not get a Fleshlight The same reason women who cheat don't just get a dildo instead. The real thing feels better. Having your cake and eating it too feels better. That's why it's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 02:39 AM
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Why not get a fleshlight? He would have saved cheating on his gf for month as well as being very cruel to me. Just for sex? Women also cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:55 AM
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The “lesser” partner brings something to the table that other people may not see at first - likely some combination of charisma, sex skills, status, money, access, etc. As long as both partners are sexually And/or the "greater" partner has some kind of flaw BPD due to which they are offering a discount/ the "lesser" partner tolerates it because of the attractiveness disparity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:50 AM
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Unlike height it depends on age group. 12.4% of women aged 20-24 are virgins according to CDC. Still not good enough for me to ever want to commit considering our sexually permissive culture and paradoxical incentives to lie when it comes to wanting to be committed to, but as far as "reasonable", pretty similar percentage to height so 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:44 AM
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6'0+ is 14% of the male population 🤷‍♂️.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:40 AM
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The house generally wins The culture generally wins
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 12:22 AM
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They're just repeating the same normative blather as you are about what is "acceptable" Problem behaviors are those that aren’t considered typically acceptable Typically? By whom? Let's take a really basic example. Saying "all lives matter". "Perfectly acceptable" among some people, "sociopathy" among others. I have never been religious but religion at least provides a loosely shared framework upon which people can agree as to what is and what isn't "acceptable". In its absence there is no objec…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:41 PM
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Changing standards is bad. would you tell a woman who prefers tall men to go for CBT or DBT lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:33 PM
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Let's see what you got
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:32 PM
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There are many "good" women. We just do not live in a "good" time other than for having a "good time"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:31 PM
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That's what I'm saying. Their opinion is at least as valid as yours, absent any further information to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:30 PM
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I think biggest obstacle is replicating the physical sensation of pussy. Doubt they can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:28 PM
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Only one of these reactions is endorsed by mainstream messaging lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:28 PM
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How do people take this shit - and people like this - seriously?! The right is an uneasy and fast crumbling alliance between adherents to "judeo-christianity" and "christian-exclusive anti-israel/Jewish interests", among other directly contradictory interests it patched together
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:21 PM
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Surely some are happy. Surely others who avoid children in the name of fulfillment end up making the wrong trade. Still others of those do make choices they are compatible with. Runs the gamut.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:19 PM
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You're doing this whole "alpha is a person I admire" that's just not what it is. Go ahead and jump on board with the scum of the earth and see how far it takes you.. To the top says Huffington post. Nowhere says random anonymous plebe. And i don't even like Huffington post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:18 PM
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The general formula is she can’t be younger than half your age plus seven That's just arbitrary. Why not x<sup>2</sup> -3x +4? Women long for patriarchy and chaperones, apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:16 PM
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There's always tradeoffs...especially in an amorphous culture
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:08 PM
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Everything has tradeoffs, particularly in a culture of mixed messaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:08 PM
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That class will still look down/feel pity on a fellow class member being tied down so early
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:04 PM
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Humans are animals. The people you describe as alphas are facades propped up by the workings of a complex society. The alphas in and out of jail are only im that position because of the state's monopoly on legitimate use of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:03 PM
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Well that's what protecting ones interests involves...presumption. yes everyone is a special snowflake, but I look at the environment and my interests and those are the best way to keep them protected.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 11:02 PM
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Yes exactly an LTR is a promise built on air castles anyway is it really any better if he "commits" for a month that's why the only way to have any kind of guarantee as such is to not have sex until marriage, because marriage has teeth for breakage
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 10:58 PM
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Statistics say later marriages are more successful. Wonder if class has an impact on that being true
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 09:36 PM
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Socially successful = high beta
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 09:22 PM
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I thought I'm not presenting something scary or novel to women? Pick one 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:58 PM
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Yes obviously those are all choices did you not see what I was responding to?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:57 PM
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Whether that is preferable depends on what endpoint you deem preferable. I don't think unmarried mothers are that bad of an endpoint. But regardless of how good or how bad, it's the woman's sole, sovereign choice (for now) whether or not the child is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:50 PM
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It needs to be said to liberate those who feel they owe an amoral society anything more than following their bare minimum obligations under the law
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:38 PM
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If you feel "lied" to by the things you hear from society in general, you don't get to punish random individuals to make it "fair". Sure you do. Ain't no laws against it. Fuck you gonna do about it other than whine 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:34 PM
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For example, women who string men along just for free meals I wouldn’t classify as, “too bad, dating’s not fair”. I would classify it as fucked up and wrong, same with stringing along a girl making her think you have something romantic, just to have sex Neither is "wrong" it's incumbent on the individual to protect their interests. Don't want to be strung along paying for dates ...don't pay until you don't feel strung along. Want commitment to be tied sex...don't have sex until you obtain commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:33 PM
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Well it's a debate sub and you're free to express a different opinion regardless of what I think lol. I understand theyre not identical people. I would just not commit to either personally
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:17 PM
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You said Because I’m not a prude? So what, she becomes completely undateable the second she’s had sex with one other person? And what about you? Income is another example of a preference. Sometimes people's preferences are not the same as what they offer. Either all such preferences are "acceptable" or none are "acceptable'
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:16 PM
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I'm just telling you what the reality is. Most alphas in a complex society are in and out of prison. Not all. Most.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:13 PM
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Tons of effort, just not on making sacrifices for NOTHING. Nothing is grosser than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:12 PM
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There's no sense in morality in an amoral society: it's martyrdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:12 PM
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Not in an environment of amorality. Anyone's free to keep playing the violin while the Titanic is sinking, but that's martyrdom. Far better to fight for your lifeboat or whatever other analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:12 PM
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For commitment, it's all greater than zero and thus disqualifying. Oh sure guys will be like "low is better than high" but what is really at play is virgin or not. N count is a modern coping strategy. What men have always cared about is the binary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:11 PM
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Odds are in the current environment of sexual liberation, she's slept with some guy before the third date. Even if she specifically has not, it's like the old line feminists said have to treat all the MnMs as poisoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:09 PM
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All sounds like cope tbh. So if a woman wants a partner to earn at least $150,000 a year, she must herself earn that much? Surely if any perspective would be Weapons grade autism It would be that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:08 PM
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Then I’ll read on here guys giving advice to other guys saying, “if she doesn’t sleep with you by the third date, she’s not attracted”. That is the current environment of sexual liberation. Odds are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:30 PM
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You mean reap the rewards of avoiding self-martyrdom lmao When in Rome
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:29 PM
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Even if you care about n count, odds are in current year it will be above zero, so what's the difference (one of many reasons commitment in current year is a bad idea)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:29 PM
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Just find new people 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:27 PM
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and by using people you cheapen yourself as wel Who cares benefit obtained 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:27 PM
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Everybody can have what they want. It's a good time to be alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:20 PM
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Most alphas are today in and out of jail. You're thinking of high betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:19 PM
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It is what it is. Choosing to live that way "because it's beta" or not beta is dumb, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:19 PM
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If it's ok for women to do it's ok for men to do. That's the price of freedom, and everyone pays. (The most valuable pay it the least. That's the game in the end. Be most valuable)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:18 PM
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You don't owe anyone objective consistency is what I mean. You don't owe having to make the exact same income to prefer someone who makes x dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:18 PM
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Indeed I do insist
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:16 PM
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Commitment is beta
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:53 PM
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Yes only people who follow the exact life choices your highness deems to be "correct" are secure
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:52 PM
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🤣yes only people who believe what you believe aren't silly. Anyway there's enough silly to keep dick wet for multiple lifetimes. There's enough men who will wait until committing. Something for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:43 PM
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So your last comment was just plain wrong is why "we aware of that that's why no sex before commitment". Not "we", silly. You.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:40 PM
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Kin survival
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:29 PM
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Hard doubt, any more than "jUsT dOnT AsSaULt EdUcAtE yOuRsElF" stops anyone from assaulting. If you're talking about individuals communicating with each other in private, sure, maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:28 PM
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The premise is marry first. I'm not saying they have to. I'm saying it's their choice not to. So long as abortion is available.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:27 PM
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I support a strong safety net. Of course child support will be increased, more draconian, pregnancy support. What sex means will have similar valence for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:26 PM
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It's a mentally disabled decision to marry in an environment like this one 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:25 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis#:~:text=The%20just%2Dworld%20fallacy%20or,and%20evil%20actions%20eventually%20punished. 🤣why are you so threatened that some women don't demand a bribe you can always make a seeking arrangement account to make sure...your needs are met
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:24 PM
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that's why no sex before commitment. You're saying you don't? Well who cares there are alternatives to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:23 PM
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Not inconsistent with that either
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:21 PM
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I'm just saying it's her choice
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:20 PM
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UncommItable. Date = fuck multiple times. Not really on offer on current year, so I just don't commit. What about you What about me? I'm me that's for her to decide 🤷‍♂️ ohh no hYpoCrIsY jAiL🤣like wanting a richer partner, wanting a stronger partner, no one owes anyone objective consistency for such a personal and potentially destructive act as committing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:19 PM
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when generalizing all women is a choice YOU are making. It's the culture. Modern marriage is a glorified quickie. That some women are good and some aren't, that some people are good and some aren't, is nothing new. However, the divorce rate was 4% in 1960. It's many multiples higher now. Grey divorces are up for fuck's sake! 🤣🤮 Any man who thinks that sacrificing novelty for NOTHING is a good idea should think twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:21 AM
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If she's not a virgin, why commit? Other than that, no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:09 AM
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What does any of this have to do with no one cares if you don't date because there are alternatives to you? Yes I know there are hopeless losers we all know I don't think you dating or not dating is really relevant to them either
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:07 AM
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I'm describing the statistics and the discourse about the statistics. Which suggest that in the aggregate women will turn to muledom eventually or resent. Sure, there are exceptions, but why risk finding out. what's on offer to justify it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:06 AM
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A. You shouldn't do anything you don't feel like B. Good thing there are alternatives to you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:57 AM
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No, it's rather "dump his ass if he's selfish in bed". But then women are all like "oh it never works." I wholeheartedly agree that people should be discarded the second they are not meeting one's needs or wants , be that sexually, or looking too old, or becoming boring, or even just inconvenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:42 AM
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Exactly. Telling some girl "oh sure I want a relationship..with the right girl", fucking her and deleting her number, totally fine. It is legal after all. Totally fine since anyway life is unfair all guys should do it unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:41 AM
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But caring about your own pleasure as it pertains to interacting with another person is empty without a solution. Fucking hotter guys might be just such a solution. Begging for men to care isn't a solution. The ones that care already do, and the ones that don't won't care because of homeless beggar whining. Same with chore sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:34 AM
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Concern for the self results in greater chances of survival, but it's more of a side effect than intention. Oh sure, it's like eating salts and fats feels good because it feels good not because people consciously associate it with survival
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:32 AM
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Men aren't going to care about women's pleasure regardless, or at least women whining like homeless beggars isn't going to force anyone to care who wouldn't already, so it strikes me that picking more attractive men to fuck is one of the few things actually within women's ability to control
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:31 AM
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It's probably behind a paywall, nevertheless seems like a high reward low loss proposition
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:23 AM
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🤣High five
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:23 AM
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Everyone wants to be the only, the top. Omnipotence feels good. Ok, and why is that. There is a why right. Surely related to optimizing survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:18 AM
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Probably still worth a shot. Worst case scenario she fucked a hot dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:15 AM
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It was supposed to be a Google scholar link here it is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:12 AM
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I'm saying preferences often come from somewhere. Such a universally held preference, it must have had some kind of reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:10 AM
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Men's masculinity and attractiveness predict their female partners' reported orgasm frequency and timing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:08 AM
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the preference likely came from perceiving women as chattel and everyone knowing that "new" had to be better than "used". And where did that preference come from
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:06 AM
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Why does anyone prefer virgins. There's gotta be some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:06 AM
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"If you're not condemning it you're complicit" -modern women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:57 AM
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Apparently rEaL aMerIcAnS = threatened by being outworked by fobs who can't even speak English not to worry as long as daddy trump keeps calling em real Americans they can keep deluding themselves that they aren't worth NOTHING 👍 LaSt WorD
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:49 AM
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What a bunch of pussies threatening civil war when they can't even roll ten feet from their trailer unassisted by a mobility scooter 👍 LaSt WorD
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:48 AM
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You're complicit in their failure by not holding them to account. Feeling sorry for them isn't going to change shit. They need to take their illiterate king's advice "You have to be strong. You have to show strength" 👍 LaSt WorD
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:46 AM
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Marriage and lots of relationships are not fine or fair for women Either this is false or women are mentally disabled. Pick one?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:43 AM
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They're not even trying. They're just blaming other people. And then self victimizing. Empathy for that is beyond the pale for anyone who didn't grow up and get molested by one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:42 AM
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Just increase the chances of copulatory orgasm ain't no guarantees of course Human female orgasm and mate fluctuating asymmetry https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/000334729580014X?utm_source=pocket-app&utm_medium=share
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:42 AM
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Fix the worthless illiterates Teach them how to read It isn't hard
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:40 AM
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This thread is too fun not to troll
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:40 AM
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Whoops I meant men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:40 AM
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I'm not the one whining like a little girl about being ForGotTEn I just can't imagine a grown ass man both putting on an ubermasculinity performance while at the same time unironically identifying as FoRgOtTeN because the one factory closed. Do they know that starting MuH CivIL war will require bottomless reserves of resolve and grit?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:39 AM
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such as stringing along is independent of sex because it's well into the area of reasoned deception Everybody lies
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:38 AM
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She said she doesn't believe it's fine, I didn't say that 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:37 AM
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You wouldn't be answering if you didn't know I'm right. I am. Fix your people. They're an embarassing disgrace and you sound like the kind of person they'd listen to
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:37 AM
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You haven't yet explained how a $70 bus ticket to a place with a job is so burdensome that it makes more sense to blame people who just got here for taking their jobs unless empathy just means blandly acknowledging "you're right whatever you say"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:35 AM
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You could always, you know, tell me why I'm wrong. You're bothering to respond anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:34 AM
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First group of worthless beggars in human history who think they're above begging their false pride like what the fuck are they proud of that they are breathing 🤣 "our worthless illiterate king trump will save us"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:32 AM
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Your humanity is misplaced. It should be with the people who actually care to try and come here with nothing, not lazy drug addicts who are a $70 bus ticket away from a job and want to deport the former as though that would make them any less worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:30 AM
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Orgasm gap All women have to do is fuck attractive masculine men. I don't know what women's heaviness rate is in Russia but in america they could probably stand to put the fork down and then they could attract said orgasm causing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:30 AM
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Oh sorry I was a whole $70 off maybe they can skip the heroin for two weeks lmao Empathy? Yeah for the helpless not entitled wastes of life who think people who are actually hungry for achievement who show up here with NOTHING are the reason they can't buy the fucking bus ticket
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:27 AM
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See previous comment have they not heard of a car, a train, or LEARNING TO FUCKING READ I don't have empathy for sexless men and there's plenty of overlap between said sexless men and wastes of life blaming everyone else for their not being able to come up with $10 for a bus ticket to a place that has jobs They love their mountain shithole so much but that's no one's fault either. Sure is pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:23 AM
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Right nothing socipathic at all about being a lazy drug addicted waste of life and then blaming a lack of deportations for not having a job 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:19 AM
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Oh no the one factory in town closed I've never heard of a car, a train, moving, the internet, LEARNING HOW TO READ, all I know is how to blame people who just got here when my worthless ass family has been here for eleventy generations as I like to brag so much about
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:17 AM
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The problem is that some of these guys legit think society should limit women’s choices, either with some kind of arranged marriage system or by making it so women are basically forced to get married young to whatever man is available, like they were for much of history. I see stuff like that all the time, All the time? Like maybe on dark corners of the internet whereas mainstream messaging is filled 24/6/365 with women's muh body positivity/muh mEnS StAnDArDs aRe MisOgYnIStIc ObJeCtIfiCaTiOn
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:14 AM
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White people man or woman who can't make it in America without a leg up aren't worth a damn let em beg trump for muh ethnostate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:12 AM
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Indigent are underrepresented in college relative to population, so it makes sense to benefit them through affirmative action. White women are OVERREPRESENTED in college relative to population, and the fact that they nevertheless continue to benefit from affirmative action proves they are nothing more than homeless beggars
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:09 AM
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The averages that women unironically complain about Women complain that they have to work more hours inside the home, but men work more hours outside the home, yet women's complaints are never accompanied by "men should also work less hours outside the home", because that would be an impossible thing for women on the aggregate to say, because they see men other than the ones they fuck for fun as mules from which maximal value must be extracted It's like the whole "MarrIagEable men have to earn m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:08 AM
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Indigent are underrepresented in college relative to population. Women are not. Women are overreperesnted in college relative to population
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:04 AM
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Yeah dry humping and fucking 20 dudes in 4 years, exactly the same thing lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:03 AM
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There are already more women than men, as you noted. There are fewer indigenous than the population. Fewer blacks than the population. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:01 AM
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It's not really equity if you need to BEG for handouts like a homeless addict even after there are already more of you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:00 AM
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Lack of availability of virgins doesn't mean men do not want virgins for commitment. The solution is to not commit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:59 AM
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You said women are more educated. That white women are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action is relevant to said fact
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:58 AM
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Something that humans consider before doing what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:57 AM
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Virgin women were idolized back when it mattered. What does that mean
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:57 AM
1

Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:56 AM
1

Just saying Whether it actually sways opinion is another story. isn't a relevant human consideration
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:56 AM
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How does what you're saying negate what I'm saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:55 AM
0

which will be impossible for age obviously Even with age can always date someone much older to whom they will appear relatively younger
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:55 AM
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Would YOU want to show affection to someone who thinks you should work more hours in the home without wanting to resolve the fact that you work more hours outside the home? Because that's what the averages the woman complainers cite show. Women want gender roles for men while casting aside their own gender role. And they offer NOTHING to justify such an unequal bargain
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:53 AM
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White women are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:48 AM
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Doesn't stop women from complaining (e.g. muh body positivity/muh mEnS StAnDArDs aRe MisOgYnIStIc ObJeCtIfiCaTiOn). Why should it stop men from complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:46 AM
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You don’t have the right to take away someone’s ability to choose their partner. Nor does anyone have the ability to take away someone's ability to choose their partner. Your post is basically OP but with the standard feminine centric viewpoint which is available 24/7/365 everywhere at all times
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:44 AM
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Way more cynical than I took you for lmao delicious
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:42 AM
-1

Lol it's like how in a divorce you can take half the assets with you but not half the sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:38 AM
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dating is not fair for both genders perspective for different reason, you could of worded your post without sounding like a desperate incel, but oh well. Why does the truth need to be sugarcoated for his/her highness And although most these points stand true, its still not an excuse to use "dating not fair" to cheat on your so other... Your last point. What he described is NOT cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:36 AM

I'm a guy lol and what I was saying is that guys whose worldview would be shattered by having a baby girl don't exist anymore. Have you not read the end of men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:28 AM
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Most men other than tradcucks, and especially foreign tradcucks, don't idolize virgin stay at home women. Like said in the other thread, the vast majority of men can't afford a stay at home wife/mother. And most people have lost their virginity by a certain point to where it's stupid to idolize inexperienced women. Can't afford and doesn't seem available are different from don't want
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:24 AM
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Gender roles for thee but not from me More hours working inside the home for thee, but fewer hours working outside the home for me No hookers for thee but as many guys as I feel like fucking for me No porn for thee but 50 shades of grey and social media addiction for me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:22 AM
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The point seems to be that the criticism is selective based on self interest
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:19 AM
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Will you fuck worthless men to prove it doe? Otherwise it's all talk lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:02 AM
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Theres a difference between acknowledging unfairness, and using it as an excuse to be a jerk. I approve only the degree of unfairness that is beneficial to my interests, and none more than such
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:01 AM
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This post is gonna be all automod
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:50 AM
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Impressive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:49 AM
1

Never even considered that but makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:34 AM

People disliking predictable things is also predictable. I don't disagree with you in that the best thing to do is maximize your own outcome (I assume you think that at least), but where I disagree is that resentment can fuel the fire to do the necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:04 AM

Wouldn't really add much anyway unless already desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:03 AM

It all makes sense now they're just poor
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:02 AM

Knowledge is the devil 😰
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:59 AM

Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:59 AM

I think most people do. We'd have a very different society if "most people" did
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:59 AM

Do they also get upset that a wealthier more well connected kid got hired for a job or selected for a prestigious university? Umm they do? r/latestagecapitalism r/lostgeneration
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:58 AM

They don't exist anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:57 AM
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The mainstream relationship advice to communicate is blather to get people to shut the fuck up about their problems while pretending that the problems are actually solvable
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:56 AM
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It takes two to tango, buddy Her body her choice
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:54 AM
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It's a woman's choice whether a child is born...for at most the next few years, but still, it is the case as of now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:54 AM
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more marriage ambivalent than "against" marriage A culture of hell yes is necessary to sustaining marriages. It's really easy to give up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:53 AM
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That would require self awareness/a cure for autism
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:52 AM
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Unpaid labor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:59 PM
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In what way can this irrefutable, objective knowledge you speak of be gleaned aside from your therapist's worried notes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:37 PM
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make her laugh, ask more about her than you talk about yourself, and dont exude desperation None of that is incompatible with not paying. Actually....it's the most compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:30 PM
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Moral women get killed off or starve to death AWALT!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:29 PM
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The idea that women who don't want what you want must somehow be broken is narcisstic delusion of the highest order. Ever considered maybe it's you that's broken
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:20 PM
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No u
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:19 PM
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Is that really for you to say (ps oh look I can downvote too 🤣)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 10:15 PM
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Sure, different women are different
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 10:11 PM
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It's a woman's choice whether a child is born...for at most the next few years, but still, it is the case as of now. So any money recieved from the government because of having child = money recieved because of the woman's choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 10:11 PM
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Yet, some women do pursue casual sex. Maybe some women are different from other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 10:10 PM
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You could be forced to pay child support for 5+ children if you’re unlucky. That would be a pretty serious amount of money that could put you into debt if you don’t have a well paying job. Child support orders account for income and supports orders to other children
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 10:09 PM
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I’ve only had casual sex with attractive, masculine men and they were especially terrible at foreplay. Well a study isn't going to apply to every experience of every person. Just makes it more likely overall
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:58 PM
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Sex itself has no value Then why does any woman complain about the orgasm gap. Maybe your views aren't really very broad at all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:57 PM
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What do you mean if it’s true Is it true that the government funds women's choices Yeah let’s take away peoples freedom so men can get laid. Not giving someone money isn't "depriving them of freedom"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:56 PM
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Women who want to have sex should be afraid because the risks increase significantly. I see so you have nothing to be afraid of because you don't want to have sex Also men who want to have a lot of sex and are not in a long term relationship should be afraid, not only of having less sex but also of having to pay child care. This assumes that it's a straight equation "men want to maximize sex and minimize spend". True to some extent, but it would still be an improvement over the current situation…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:55 PM
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Shouldn't humans strive to be more thoughtful than "every other animal"? For what benefit? Sometimes there is a benefit. Certainly not for its own sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:46 PM
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Remove funding of women’s choices by the government? Are you saying it's untrue, or that you don't like the manner of expression?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:42 PM
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Some are desperate women hoping to get what benefits them through sex. Usually don't succeed. Other women have trauma and sex is coping mechanism. I would also offer that the "who" is relevant: Studies show that fucking attractive masculine men greatly increases the odds of copulatory orgasm. Thus the solution for the "orgasm gap" is to fuck those men, and make oneself attractive enough to be desirable to those men if one is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:41 PM
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Ok. This is a far less broad and more defensible claim than your above one
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:34 PM
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I see. Well I would offer that there are ways women can increase the odds of mutual benefit Studies show that fucking attractive masculine men greatly increases the odds of copulatory orgasm. Thus the solution for the "orgasm gap" is to fuck those men, and make oneself attractive enough to be desirable to those men if one is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:33 PM
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Studies show that fucking attractive masculine men greatly increases the odds of copulatory orgasm. Thus the solution for the "orgasm gap" is to fuck those men, and make oneself attractive enough to be desirable to those men if one is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:28 PM
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voluntary
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:25 PM
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That’s how we are hardwired biologically—to enjoy sex when we have an emotional connection and there is trust. Without that, sex is usually just for the benefit of the man. Then why do some women have no strings sex? Maybe not all women are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:23 PM
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Any other type of sex doesn't benefit a woman unless she extracts ridiculous amounts of money from that. So why do they do it then? Maybe women aren't all the same lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:23 PM
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It is for some women. Discard immediately the ones for whom it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:18 PM
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Ah ok, a question. My answer is then "who, if anyone, should be 'afraid', and why?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:17 PM
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for an experience in which the man has a 95%+ change of orgasming, and I know it's a toss up if I get off. Why is their chance relevant sounds pretty petty lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:08 PM
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I didn't see a question
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:05 PM
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It's just a better option than remaining in the west, where you have angry, obese, masculine, bitchy, confrontational women who demand tall, muscular, rich, handsome and will dead bedroom you. These women at least offer femininity, submissiveness, loyalty, not obese and other good things. Unless you're going to move there, they'll just adapt to whatever culture you're in. And as it is a uniculture it is coming to a third world near you anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:06 PM
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🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:05 PM
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We shall see, ban is coming soon
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:31 PM
1

Oh sure
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:30 PM
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It's only ok to lie to women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:53 PM
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Women will also be less likely to seek a long term partner when they lose interest in sex due to the above reasons. Yes because women never had long term partners before abortion and birth control 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:37 PM
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Yes because no one had sex before abortion was legal 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:35 PM
1

Even actually hot ones doe, eventually boredom is boredom
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:58 AM
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Doesn't require being hotter than Britney spears (for example)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:58 AM
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Checkmate
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:57 AM
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Right, that makes sense as congruent with what you're saying "I must be hotter than Britney Spears" isn't congruent
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:57 AM
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The reason men are labeled low status (or LVM: Low Value Male) is because those men are not desirable by women due to those men's low exploitability factor. This deserves its own post lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:09 AM
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a plain Jane average partner they're sick of banging It's the nature of the beast that is commitment Behind every hot girl is a guy whose tired of fucking her
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:05 AM
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They manage to teach women math somehow 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:03 AM
3

We can’t punish the kids!” We already are doe
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:02 AM
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welfare does not make anyone´s life great. it´s not better than a 100k earning dude. It's probably better than an ugly 100k earning dude lol, and why would a not ugly 100k earning dude pair up with someone whose choices are welfare or ugly 100k earning dude in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:02 AM
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Roman bachelor citizens would literally sell themselves into slavery to friends to avoid the responsibilities and taxes imposed when Roman marriage and birth rates plummeted. I now pronounce you Chuck's Larry
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:55 AM
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I’m not sure why women would’ve just suddenly considered more men “low status” around the 2000s for no apparent reason, Access to high value men from outside their immediate irl lfe
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:53 AM
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Which does not require being better than everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:51 AM
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So the only divorces are people who didn't build actual relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:44 AM
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For which guy still had to pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:39 AM
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Looking best for future husband doesn't require beating literally everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:39 AM
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Is women's sexual imperative "nothing less than being with #1"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:38 AM
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Ok, that's an answer. The opposite is what should be pushed in my opinion. Then whoever's left will be people genuinely wanting it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:59 AM
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Not quite the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:53 AM
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That's nonsense a guy getting pussy on the regular isn't thinking about Chad if you're gonna whataboutism at least take a moment to think about the subject you're describing!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:35 AM
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Her highness isn't satisfied unless she's better than everyone 🤣 and then she still isn't satisfied!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:06 AM
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It's not the exact type and quality of attention they want from the exact type and quality of person they want, and is thus irrelevant and frankly even insulting depending on how far afield
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:05 AM
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This is the way
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 12:49 AM
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There's nothing about supposed or not supposed. It's whatever is available in the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 09:57 PM
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Also, even though I'm not going to stop individual choices, choice feminism is flawed. Playing into archaic gender roles on an individual level DOES have societal impact. So your version involves shaming and bullying women into submission lmao it's kinda working I guess, but you kinda hover around 1/3 adoption with that playbook, making it self-defeating (and when you account for such women having fewer kids, it's self-removing in the end)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 08:49 PM
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Seems like marriage is a pretty bad deal then. Spread the good word
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:34 PM
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Even if you didn't give a fuck about a relationship and just wanted to bang girls, paying for sex negates the true purpose that most bachelor's live for; the thrill of the hunt. To reaffirm their charisma & sexual desirability. Even the most successful bachelors spend money on dates, because why the fuck wouldn't they? you think they just gonna stick to water and walks? Any competent person can easy avoid getting finessed by a gold digger. Some bachelors pay for someone they haven't slept with, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:24 PM
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Well you can see it as the default position: I don't pay money for strangers. Friends yes. Family yes. Significant others yes. If I've slept with someone, they're no longer a stranger for such purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:23 PM
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Nah you know, it's cool, just gonna keep fuckin randoms and some illegal can take care of the chores for $8/hr it's truly a win win win as I don't have to make any compromises for the exciting benefit of fucking the same aging boring face day in and day out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:24 PM
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Lol there weren't more people having casual sex when there was more enforced monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:17 PM
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I personally had a virgin fiancée Or so she says
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:03 PM
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At a certain level apparently they get annual bonuses for meeting performance targets
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 06:13 AM
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So why do women still marry, mental disability?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 06:11 AM
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Lol make sure of what
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 06:08 AM
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Kind of a non sequitur from So you agree men's behavior is bad, scary, and immoral and needs to be stopped? (Well maybe not, I guess if construed broadly enough), But I'm pretty in favor of a strong safety net
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:52 AM
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I think "she finds out he's ever been to a hooker" is probably the best analogy Past is past teehee
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:42 AM
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I will never understand the lengths men will go for sex. Do I even love anything that much? It would be impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:41 AM
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So how do you reliably find someone non promiscuous in a society like this? My point is it isn't really possible
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:38 AM
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I don't really care about much more than getting my dick wet to the extent legally permissible, and I think it's silly that the same women who hate on patriarchy the most are apparently the onea aching for it the most, as though their protection will come out of nowhere. How else do you plan to fix it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:34 AM
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I'd be more worried about that if I were you lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 04:56 AM
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Fair enough. I continued the discussion in other comment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:32 AM
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Are you're denying that these people exist? 30+ year olds dating 18 and 19 year olds? Well I'm sure it's got to be nonzero. Can you, and you don't have to, but can you narrate what it is you think of when you think of that happening, like the circumstances? Do you think of a 30+ year old hanging out at a high school and offering rides? Do you think of a 30+ year old who returned to college dating a classmate (maybe doesn't even know how old she is, surely she's almost certainly 18 or 19, but who…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:32 AM
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Just because they married doesn't mean they don't resent it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:27 AM
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No one on reddit can fix the problem for you 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:27 AM
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Oh like because of what I post here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:26 AM
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you live in fear of getting doxxed How do you figure
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:06 AM
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but your previous posts keep suggesting I am lying about this aspect of me and what im looking for. I absolutely do not think you're lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:05 AM
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Said its what I was looking for. I take it these terms are interchangable to you? You're right I read into it incorrectly. Yes, and the comment was said on reddit, in "this enviroment" so how exactly does your accusation make any sense in this context? Ok, I'm not saying that you're lying. I'm saying that in irl it would not be possible to know if they're lying, given the current cultural environemnt. If you spend time with people irl they reveal themselves. Internet isnt real life. There's no l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 02:21 AM
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Well you/they are "demanding" it, no? I like to call a spade a spade Lol on reddit?! what guy exactly do you think I like on this sub? I've heard of a reach but this is delusional lol. Lmao no I meant irl Good thing people develop personalities and humanity and do this thing where they get to know and gasp like each other. This is a revelation from the sounds of it. The reputational and community standards that made people knowable are gone. What you get to know is an avatar in the world of root…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:55 AM
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many manage to do so like grown ups So just skip ahead to that, cut out the middleman of acrimonious and expensive divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:54 AM
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Your entire argument is based around the premise that sex and money are intrinsically linked (or should be), But I'm not paying
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:52 AM
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They long for the benefits of the good old days but pay zero of those old says costs lol Women also demand that men play the traditional role while not offering it themselves Just stop commiting everyone Problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:52 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:49 AM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣 men are not rational. True, no one is "rational", but regardless (and perhaps precisely because of said irrationality of all), there's a lot of traditional gender roles for thee but not for me out there Both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:38 AM
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Why is division of labor "wrong". It sounds like a criticism of how OP is phrased buy that's what I'm really wondering. There are some men who want to play the traditional role, and some women Let them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:36 AM
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Still better than many. And definitely won't be putting them through an expensive, acrimonious divorce. Someone described it as "playing for not last". I'm fine with that. it's a first world country. Kid will live.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:34 AM
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Yeah I just meant some women virgins wouldn't demand the man also be a virgin. I would imagine most are like you and do demand it, however. i dont see what benefit it would be to lie in an environment like this one, as you put it. Sometimes when women really like a guy they tell him what they think he wants to hear. That doesnt answer my question. Everything is a transaction. I see no reason I should ignore it for fun. No one's going to fuck me just because I'm a breathing warm body, just as no …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:24 AM
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Yes, and we do Apparently not. If they did there wouldn't be women complaining about how they feel used because the guy they had sex with didn't end up committing. I think you might be discussing something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:22 AM
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But I also have to sacrifice novelty, stuff will come up anyways unless the maid is a live in maid, and I have to do all this while being expected to make more. Outsourcing most of yhe parenting to a single mom is way easier and less naggy (which I won't have to hear), especially because any sacrifice I make is no longer for a near guaranteed lifetime commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:21 AM
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pog Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:20 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:19 AM
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. It is not valid to need specific ones or else you'll claim your partner doesn't love you. It's valid to say "I feel unloved when you don't get me a birthday present." It's not valid to say "you got me earrings when I wanted a necklace; I feel unloved." Anything is valid, but haranguing is bad. If you're not getting what you want just discard and replace. No one needs anyone anymore it's all just a luxury pasttime anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:16 AM
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the male and woman Men always get shit when they say the reverse (females and men), so here's the reverse reverse When men say this they are obviously saying women should continue fulfilling their traditional gender roles which is hilarious considering males no longer want to fulfill theirs. Women continue to demand higher earners but that chores be split equally. Ok, marriage is a shit deal for all don't marry. It's silly anyway this caretaker thing when you can pay an illegal $8/hr to cook and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:14 AM
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35 house republicans vote in favor of Jan 6 commission Lol it's like they don't realize there aren't enough trumpers to vote to carry the party once the decent ones worth a damn complete their fleeing from the party like their house is on fire
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:11 AM
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And it's not true. There's always a low-risk safe path for people that have a lot of patience and relatively good judgement and some resources. Patience being the most important bit. Everything safe takes patience. Well I was just observing that your stated solution also has risk that you yourself noted
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:09 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:09 AM
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Did this get cut off?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:06 AM
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Haha that's an awesome thing to see a (an?) historian say the past is a big place. But then it's not really hypocrisy if it's just a lack of understanding. It's just cherrypicking the likeable parts. There's a name for that right, like a 50s diner when that wasn't really a thing...simulacrum?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:06 AM
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If it's that bad, you should be in the streets risking jail like your foremothers. Put your money where your moutb is. Otherwise it sounds like childish exaggeration
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:05 AM
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I will spend money on the date if I damn well want to spend money. Well of course you should. I have no problems having "traditional" relationships with women. Just have some "traditional" masculinity and see what happens. The culture always wins, one way or the other. It's like saying you could revolt against the military and its weapons. It's, you seem to have most things figured out I guess but it's fucking delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:04 AM
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Ohh ok I get it now . Well as you can see in the thread what is peecieved as "normal" varies widely. I actually agree with you as that's been my experience, but you go here and it's like these 50s style providership rituals are what's stated as being the norm, so I take it as that must be what they're seeing out there. For me it's very much been like okay you hook up and then sometimes you keep hooking up and then suddenly one day it's like hey wanna be exclusive or whatever and that's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:03 AM
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Interesting. If you don't like the present...just wait. But then if it's cyclical, that means at least some of ye olden times may have been as crude as now? If not, when did the crudeness of now start?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 12:00 AM
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Also, learn to cook and do dishes, since you will be doing all of yours, all of the time. I can pay an illegal $8 an hour why would I bother. My time is better used. That's what these nagged husbands should do "here's your $8 an hour want it in an envelope?"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:59 PM
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when it comes to dates as I have dont before. I have found it hard to find virgin men who Turns out a nonzero amount of virgin women expect virgin men. Curious, would that be a surprise to you? Do you think it's literally 100% expect virgins? Pretty sure in "traditional" relationships men are expected to pay, the fact some men are not anymore and your lamenting this while also stating that this is the thing to do....a bit contradictory perhaps? Reciprocity. Traditional behavior for traditional r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:58 PM
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Ohh cool so let me ask you, is there a time period that was the turning point in loss of decorum in those private spaces?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:56 PM
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Ohh right. Guess there's no easy answer for a low risk person in a high risk world
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:55 PM
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So get your ass off reddit and BEG your legislator to raise the age of consent
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:51 PM
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What I'm saying is you read the records and didn't think it was that outrageous, but maybe you're looking at it relative to today, whereas it may have been very outrageous at its time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:51 PM
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Yeah I mean what's stopping you lol There are women available for guys who don't want to pay. There are men available for women who want the guy to pay People make compromises for NOTHING
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:50 PM
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No I'm talking about the bad words you used to describe the thing What else will happen? It ain't illegal yet. If you want it to be get your ass off reddit and go BEG your legislator to make it illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:49 PM
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No u
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:47 PM
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There's nothing to try. It's just what is on offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:47 PM
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But it's relative to its time and place
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:46 PM
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It's on offer 🤷‍♂️blame them if it makes you mad that men don't have to put in effort. But they don't. It's what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:46 PM
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Yeah I pretty reflexively feel the need to reciprocate kindnesses to people lol, I guess that is a nuance that is not covered in my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:45 PM
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Ohhh. Didn't seem interesting but now I'm intrigued. Anyway even in ye olden days men had their men spaces where they said men things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:44 PM
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You're viewing dating like prostitution But I'm not paying anything
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:43 PM
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Me: Okay, so we should place more importance on discretion and good manners? PPD: ..... PPD: no not like that Who is saying this where did it even come up
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:05 PM
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So what's your solution I'm curious
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:04 PM
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That's the dumbest shit I've heard in my entire life, almost as dumb as "telling a girl you might want a relationship and then having sex with them is rape". Take some goddamn responsibility fucking hell
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:01 PM
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Did you mean not normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:00 PM
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I can't help but ask is it gonna be some nonsense martyrdom about muh overworked women, but actually would welcome thoughts on it genuinely
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:00 PM
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Then just wait till marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:59 PM
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Well, regardless of whether it's "egalitarian" or not, it's on offer, and it's preferable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:59 PM
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I agree I'd never go to a guy's place like after the bars closed because I learned very quickly that is not safe unless you plan to do everything he wants you to do and not disappoint him or lead him on. Tell your sisters what you've learned. Shout it from the rooftops. Not because it's their fault if they don't, but because all the police can do is charge someone with a crime and not undo the experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:58 PM
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we know they would go younger if they could. They could. They would just risk jail. But they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:56 PM
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Child murderers (mostly women) benefit when we don't talk about child murderers, so let's neurotically obsess ourselves with it at all hours
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:56 PM
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Anyone is allowed to have whatever definition they want. As long as you're not forcing anyone to do anything, it's not "entitled". If you're not getting what you want, discard immediately and on to the next Both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:54 PM
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What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:53 PM
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So you don’t think you can be a good husband, but you can be a good dad, and you think you can find a woman who is not good wife material but will be great mom material. That will be interesting. More or less Most women willing to be single moms...let’s just say they are rarely the best. More women are willing overall, and with it broadens the types going for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:52 PM
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Ohh no bad words fuck you gonna do about it 🤣you're powerless to stop it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:51 PM
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I'm actually very romantic. I just recognize this isn't the right environment for it. The divorce rate was 4% in 1960. That high of a chance at stable, lifelong partnership is something worth sacrificing for. Today, grey divorces are going up 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:51 PM
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I see no point in treating the ideal as the realistic 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:49 PM
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I want a kid. There are women willing to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:49 PM
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Pain is unavoidable, but it should be pain worth risking. Which assessment varies from person to person no doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:48 PM
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I never said otherwise. I even said everyone keeps getting what they want. I wholeheartedly agree that people should remain single rather than comrpormise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:39 PM
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with a straight face how men who pay for OnlyFans are being exploited Who says that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:38 PM
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Fathers were in the house every day, they acted as disciplinarian, as guide, as role models. And when you had 5 kids who all need to get ready for school, they helped. They took kids to ball games and parks to give mom a break, They coached sports, taught kids to play catch You're conflating like 7 different generations lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:31 PM
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Yes. Apparently a lot of married couples can’t . There is an epidemic of people of both genders who can’t adult. Who can’t accept that children require sacrifice and who think it’s fine to have them and not want to care for them. Avoiding the entire mess is a snip away. If it's ok for them to have kids, it's ok for me to as well. At least I have a more deliberate plan than iTLL aLl WoRk OuT
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:31 PM
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Correct and from experience, be careful of the stranger in town... That's true too. Did you have roots in rural places or did you like move and establish?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:30 PM
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Chances are, harsh as it may sound, they may just not like you. (Not tryna be a dick about it but it’s the truth) Long as dick stays wet 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:29 PM
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not starting rant threads on Reddit about buying a lady a dinner or some drinks. Guys don't have to these days. Some guys don't realize. They all should, and then do with that information as they wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:29 PM
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Long as there are alternatives to you, everyone keeps getting what they want!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:28 PM
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rural areas I can see that being a higher likelihood, but I dunno. Feels like "the culture" is everywhere now. Definitely a better option as options go.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:22 PM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:22 PM
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If women don't have the agency to not have sex until they get what they want, then bring back chaperones and patriarchy because that's what they were there for. To protect women. You think you can shame men into policing themselves and it's as hillarious as it is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:21 PM
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and thinks it’s effeminate to spend time with them That's how it used to be 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:18 PM
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I'm not seeing any qualifiers. You're using the same exact word.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:17 PM
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Hahaha the last one is the worst California bars closing time is nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:17 PM
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Most women are not neurotically obsessed with the possibility of being subjected to male violence (just as most men are not, despite their higher likelihood of experiencing it)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:15 PM
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You wouldn't know I'm a "guy like me" unless I literally showed you this post
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:12 PM
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Good thing men of my generation are not so bitchy about paying for a $20 dinner... It's because there are alternatives. If there weren't, everyone would pay. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:11 PM
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But I'm literally saying not to spend money. This is the fifth or sixth time someone has answered with your comment and it doesn't make any fucking sense. Will you actually explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:10 PM
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That's just what victim means It's a mockery of actual victims to say that a girl who was raped and a girl who didn't get her pony relationship after putting out should be described by the same word "victim"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:08 PM
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Apparently a lot of married couples cannot. Surely it's not zero of their men who think they're doing the best they can. Would rather just avoid the whole entitled mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:05 PM
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What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:05 PM
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If a man tells an adult man "oh sure I'll be in a relationship with you", has sex with said adult man, and then abandons him, the man is not a victim Your games are so funny because you're so bad at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:04 PM
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Lol yeah Man Francisco
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:02 PM
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Well, no. I'm not the one with anything to lose
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:02 PM
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Nah. I want kids. Better to not fuck em up with divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:01 PM
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So explain. When you say manipulation, is "oh I'd be in a relationship with the right girl" manipulation? And if so, fuck you gonna do about it 🤣powerless to stop it from happening over and over and over, other than by petitioning your legislator to make it a crime
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:01 PM
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and some people who do get divorced put on their grown up pants and try to put their kids first. Right just cut out the middleman and do separate coparenting, what best case scenario of what would happen after divorce, just start off with that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:00 PM
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You listed a bunch of examples, and then talked about Gacy. Is your post only about Gacy? People can always say no to sex they don't want to have, being "manipulated" into sex isn't a thing What does this refer to?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:57 PM
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If they want a relationship to be tied to sex, it's on them to keep their legs closed till they get it 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:55 PM
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I thought that underage was a different example. Talking about adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:54 PM
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If you don’t think kids do better with dads, It's not a reliable choice any longer, so may as well plan for it up front instead of messy, expensive acrimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:54 PM
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People can always say no to sex they don't want to have, being "manipulated" into sex isn't a thing Oh so they can't say no?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:53 PM
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Looking at the thread there's lively argument and justification on both sides. My favorite "compensate women for muh oppression/make up costs" 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:51 PM
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People who marry for kids can and do end up in the same place
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:50 PM
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You don't know which adventure you've picked until it's too late. Sacrifice of novelty made for NOTHING
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:50 PM
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No it's Not. I only cared about my marriage prospects sexual history. Incompatible meaning suitable options aren't on offer in a sexually free society I know many who just enjoy casual relationships for that reason. I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:49 PM
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Fueled by the illusion that a modern woman can be locked down.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:41 PM
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That uptight personality is going to do you 0 favours with ladies. Works fine for me🤷‍♂️ maybe I should share a copy of this post or it's DiShOnEsT
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:40 PM
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Men wanting to spend all this time with their kid is an effeminate modern phenomenon, just as men and women "being friends" is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:39 PM
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Ah so you don't have an argument cool
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:39 PM
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Not just see them a few hours a week. All the financial responsibilities, none of the joy. Well it also avoids the acrimony of the parents fighting over muh dishes and all the other nonsense women will complain about instead of putting their money where their mouth is and raising the kid alone. Might as well cut out the middleman of acrimonious, expensive divorce and cut to the chase
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:34 PM
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Literally why is your ego so fragile. Everything's about ego, else why do women prefer taller men? Imma get mine too. Bonus laughable how broke you sound. A great killer of arousal is just awkwardness and being stingy. Bringing up an $8 bill is a sure fire way to lose any sparks that existed. If all women demanded payment, you would be right and there'd be no way to get laid. But thanks to liberation they don't. Is someone angwy at having to race to the bottom 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:27 PM
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dating only bottom of the barrel girls 🤣Any girl who doesn't value what you value is bottom of the barrel I’m out Of course you are. You don't have anything to say
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:25 PM
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I'm saying if you want a kid and you're a guy, no need to choreshare or even commit. However hard it is, women go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:25 PM
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I never promise anyone a relationship. If they expect a relationship to be tied to sex, they can keep their legs closed till they get one. But they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:24 PM
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Yep. And there are women making the sacrifice with the guy not even living with her. Sounds easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:23 PM
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Well if you want a kid
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:22 PM
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I am not forcing anyone to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:16 PM
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Men ARE mules from with resources need to be extracted, women are lactating broodmares with their own resources to extract Thing is, a man doesn't even need to commit any longer to sire a kid. Then just pay child support, no complaints about muh equal dishes, problem solbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:16 PM
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Why even bother posting?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:14 PM
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So, what I'm reading here is that you only pay for dates with trad chicks Well as I said up top You want a traditional relationship: in current year 🤣 good luck buddy,
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:14 PM
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I'm trolling? You haven't made a single argument yet now have you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:13 PM
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history and physical imbalances Meh long as there are alternative women that don't despite "history and physical imbalances", why even bother
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:13 PM
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No u
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:12 PM
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There's women having kids without being married, sometimes even without a first name, notwithstanding that they have to birth the whole baby. Paying for some neurotic class striving image obsessed narcissist because she's birthing the whole baby is not only unnecessary, it's gross, and it's a poor investment because they birth the fewest children, if her highness deigns to birth any children at all in the middle of showing off how great she is at class striving
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:11 PM
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I won't pay a woman if I haven't slept with her yet. If I'm going to pay at all, I will pay a hooker.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:06 PM
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The OP can do what they want, but my biggest issue with this idea is that can lead to a dangerous notion of "they owe you". This is twisted if you don't pay on what basis is "they owe you" grounded on?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:05 PM
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It reeks of inferiority complex against Chads. But it's something I regularly experience. More guys than currently experience it can, and they might find they like it 🤷‍♂️ He could just say that his fragile ego doesn't allow him to pay for something he assumes other got cheaper Why damage your ego when you don't need to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:04 PM
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and your making a good argument for FDS tactics. Only works if you save it for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:02 PM
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"women are sluts and I won't pay for a date because they fuck chads for free" is fucked up. No it isn't. you shouldn't accept things that make you less happy, remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:00 PM
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and think that’s owed to you Who said anything about owed? I'm not. You just move on to the next one. Or are they owed my continuing to see them lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:53 PM
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Women deem men who don't earn more than them uNmaRiAgeAble...is that ObjeCtIfiCATiOn? Either all preferences are ObJeCtIfIcAtIon, or none are. Also, how would paying for them be less objectifying?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:51 PM
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The only way to avoid all of it is to treat each other with respect and demand respect in turn. You can't demand respect. No one controls anyone. You can only protect your own interests and discard those who don't fulfill your interests
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:50 PM
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What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:49 PM
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When it comes to how other people see you (or anyone), you don't speak for you either
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:49 PM
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I'm not the one who is invested in the idea that sex not being followed by commitment means I'm used.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:48 PM
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Lol I actually just never paid for dates until after sex happened, I'm not even really sure what people under 40 actually engage in ritualistic providership you just hang out, hook up, and then sometimes you keep hooking up and it falls into a relationship. But seeing the posts around here apparently some are, so, whatevs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:48 PM
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Anyone is replaceable to anyone. That's the world we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:46 PM
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Now you get it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:45 PM
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Oh so like fuck multiple times? Sure why not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:43 PM
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Do I really need to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:43 PM
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Why does "believe what you want" sound mad
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:43 PM
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But I think men love to control and manipulate women too much It's pretty easy to just not have sex until you're married
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:42 PM
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So? Everything either of us has said is a personal opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:42 PM
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It's not a valid comparison. Urgent sex you haven't invested in feeds the ego. Getting a hand out from Safeway decidedly doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:41 PM
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Believe what you want 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:41 PM
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Doesn't really matter to me whether or not they're scheming. It is what it is. We can split and/or we can do something that doesn't cost any money until sex has happened
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:41 PM
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Believe what you want 🤷‍♂️but there are also plenty of women out there
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:40 PM
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You don't think you're replaceable eh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:36 PM
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Better than a life of bland compromise
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:35 PM
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To all the men on here; Why don’t you just date someone in your league or below? You mean like, commit? For what benefit? If a guy is going to sacrifice novelty she should at least be hot
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:32 PM
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Whether or not you choose to acknowledge it, people are replaceable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:30 PM
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Haha well your comment makes me think men should never spend money on women even after fucking them. View changed!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:29 PM
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Splitting on dates is a very modern idea, actually
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:28 PM
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People should do things that are worth doing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:28 PM
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But if the women judging the complaint are ugly, their opinion is irrelevant anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:28 PM
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Women have children without marrying. If that alternative is worse than women should just STFU and accept "raising their husband as a third child"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:26 PM
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but it’s also fine to pay for yourself only. If you look at this thread a lot of people don't think so. It's a debate thread. It's being debated
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:25 PM
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And if sex is your end goal, not companionship, hire a sex worker. The women are choosing to fuck 🤷‍♂️it's their choice I do agree that men should also fill the dry spells with hookers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:25 PM
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You were the one who said men can express interest without money. If they don't, don't fuck them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:24 PM
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I believe men should pay for dates for chaste women who want a traditional life. I even said that up top.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:16 PM
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There's women who be like "I thought he was going to commit I feel so used". Accepting that risk is another option, true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:16 PM
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It also destroys some people's lives, and doesn't provide anything that's worth the risk. Some people also win the lottery 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:14 PM
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If you can’t find a woman that wants this arrangement...well, the market has spoken. There are many women perfectly fine with this arrangement. All the more reason why men shouldn't feel they have to pay. They don't. If all women demanded the guy pay, then that's what would happen. But they don't. Thanks liberation!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:13 PM
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Oh sure in fact I always say that women who expect a commitment to follow sex should wait till marriage. Anything less and they're failing to take ownership of what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:12 PM
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Her?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:05 PM
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Very egalitarian of you lol. So a woman not paying half looks like a woman who just wants to be wined and dined.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:04 PM
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Free sex great Being homeless bad
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:04 PM
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Didn't have the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:04 PM
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How could I know until it's happened
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:03 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:03 PM
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If you miss out on the connection for being "cheap", it's not a worthwhile connection. Spend, sure. I spend generously. On girls I've fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:02 PM
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Women who do have enough to support themselves above the poverty line absolutely do have to screen out men who're just looking for a meal ticket. How is a guy who pays his half looking for a meal ticket
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:01 PM
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Well I don't date men so it doesn't really matter to me, but sure, men too. That's why commitment is dumb and no one should do it. You won't know whether it's true of the other person until it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:00 PM
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So demanding a bribe for a date is the only way one can demonstrate that they value themselves? I must disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:00 PM
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Good thing others do 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:59 PM
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I've repeated the solution 7 times. The less far you go, the less guaranteed it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:58 PM
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So a woman shouldn't go on a date with a man unless she is extremely into him? Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:58 PM
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No, in fact I'm advocating for not inserting any money into them until the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:57 PM
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You gotta pay on dates. Don't be that weirdo that assumes a woman is equal to a man and that she should only be after your hotness. Well, they exist. When in Rome 🤷‍♂️ Men like hot and tame women. Women like dominant and generous men. If they're not chaste who gives a fuck if they're tame lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:56 PM
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The problem is that women borrow from the cult's ideas when convenient, and discard when inconvenient, making it worse, not better
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:55 PM
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I gave the solution. A girl who expects commitment to be tied to sex shouldn't have sex until marriage. They have no control over whether the guy will commit to them after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:54 PM
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Men shouldn't put any more effort into it. Either the same income makes a man and woman equally MarrIagEable, or equality is a sham, in which case send em back to the kitchen boyos experiment is over (nah not really, the ambiguity makes taking advantage of women for sex way easier 'oh sure babe we're totes in a ReLaTiOnShiP' 🤣)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:52 PM
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How does it not solve the problem? Well I guess the guy could say "oh babe we're totes in a relationship" and then dump her after fucking. Thus hold out till marriage. That has teeth. He can't just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:51 PM
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No thanks It wasn't an invitation, it was expressing what the reality is. Some women get free apartments and never have to work. A man doesn't really have to be that level of exceptional as a woman would for that to happen. Which makes sense, because 4 minutes of sex isn't a monthly apartment even if some men treat it that way, they need not. Which is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:50 PM
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And that's where it ends. Someone can express their disagreement with the complaint. Complaining about complaining seems like a great thing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:49 PM
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I said the sex is guaranteed. The hotter, well you pick the one that's hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:48 PM
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It is both personally effective and a philosophical position
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:47 PM
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By explaining that calling the guy an asshole afterward isn't going to solve the problem. Only not having sex before you get what you expect (or petitioning your legislator to making it illegal to not give the expected thing, I guess) will sol r the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:47 PM
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Oh so you're wealthy yourself, I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:46 PM
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Pumped and dumped? From taking a walk with a guy? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:46 PM
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