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I did Mystery Method for 3 years, 3 to 7 days a week. Your looks only determins the time that girls give to you to prove that you are a man. That's it. I know I cannot convince anyone because most of the guys here haven't approached 5% of the girls I did. At the beginning I had no chance with 10s, 1 year in I picked up many. That time I was 189 cm (6.2) and 68 kg (150 lbs, you could see my ribs), my face is maximum average. My personality and mentality changed a lot over the years because of the…
/r/seduction24/12/19 11:21 AM
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Men are attracted to looks: symmetric face, lean body, round ass, big boobs, etc... => these are reproduction values => it means healthy kids. If a man is not attracted to a woman then she can do whatever she wants, he will not be attracted. Period. There are only a couple of ways women can improve their values: work out to get lean, sexy body, round ass; wear make up; wear clothes that highlights her shape. This is a good starting point. For some men it's enough, she can even have a horrible pe…
/r/seduction24/12/19 09:15 AM
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"Disinterest makes interest." - Mystery His whole method is based on this.
/r/seduction10/12/19 03:07 PM
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And you run your opener when you do the camel pose?
/r/seduction04/12/19 08:14 PM
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So you go there and open them one by one? :D
/r/seduction04/12/19 08:12 PM
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You need less energy on day game and less sensational openers and DHV stories. I did the same but changed my opener. "I'm looking for a gift for my niece, where is xy shop?" And after the opener I could easily switch to my night game stories as my first DHV story is about buying gifts. So in my case just the opener was different but everybody has different game. Girls are more insecure daytime, it's way easier to pick up them, especially 10s.
/r/seduction04/12/19 08:09 PM
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Shopping malls worked for me the best.
/r/seduction04/12/19 06:31 PM
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Finally someone recommends Mystery!
/r/seduction30/11/19 08:24 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_von_Markovik
/r/seduction30/11/19 08:21 PM
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Practice is the only way. Get a wing who can give you some feedback. There's noting wrong about changing your personality. Your personality is not a given thing, you are a mix of people who you met in your life. Would your personality be different if you were raised by drug cartel, a billionaire or a nun? Now you have the chance to change it to your adventage.
/r/seduction30/11/19 08:57 AM
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If Toronto then it's Mystery!
/r/seduction30/11/19 08:49 AM
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Dooh... But if you practice with someone else, you can improve your skills faster, with less mistakes.
/r/seduction30/11/19 08:09 AM
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The whole PUA community in media is misinterpreted. There are some idiots who ruin the whole reputation of the whole community but it's not about abuse, it's self-development. They should also make a movie about how social networks f### up the minds of men and women and make women and men overly insecure or overly confident. If they close down PUA channels, then they should also close down Instagram, Facebook and the rest. Not to mention Hollywood that show false role models...
/r/seduction29/11/19 10:52 PM
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No what?
/r/seduction29/11/19 09:44 PM
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I never texted with anyone in my 3 years of gaming. Made only voice calls, never video. Texting can kill the attraction.
/r/seduction29/11/19 07:46 PM
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Well done!
/r/seduction29/11/19 02:19 PM
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If the bad habits get internalised it will be more difficult to fix them later.
/r/seduction29/11/19 02:17 PM
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I had a FB for around 6 months. She had sex with someone else, I dropped her, alhough I had sex with other girls in the meantime.
/r/seduction29/11/19 02:13 PM
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Hell no! Your looks only determins the time that women give you to prove that you are a men. Btw, cavemens didn't have mirrors.
/r/seduction29/11/19 02:10 PM
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"Surrender your ego be free, be free to yourself" Freddie Mercury Ego prevents proper self development.
/r/seduction29/11/19 12:23 PM
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Read Vin Dicarlo's Attraction Code. You will get all the answers about mindset.
/r/seduction29/11/19 12:20 PM
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Agree!
/r/seduction29/11/19 11:57 AM
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I'm planning to write a long post about my method within the next week, I'll try to do it over the weekend. Step by step, word by word, everything. Check back. But yes, my techinque is similar.
/r/seduction29/11/19 11:53 AM
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A friend of mine 195cm tall (6.4), ripped, has been working out for 5 years, good looking, but could only pick up 1 girl in 7 years. Looks is overrated.
/r/seduction29/11/19 11:51 AM
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If you are confident, it's funny, not try hard at all. And you can do it only once or twice at a venue.
/r/seduction28/11/19 11:47 PM
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Okay. Download or buy the Mystery Method, in the first 50-70 pages you will find your answer I guarantee. Without seeing your game it's hard, but if you read the first few chapters then you will find your problems. https://conquistaperfeita.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/The-Mystery-Method-How-to-Get-Beautiful-Women-Into-Bed.pdf
/r/seduction28/11/19 10:33 PM
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Anyways what do I do after drinks? You don't have to go anywhere. Just stay there and chat with her. Do I do another activity and then kiss her at end? It's not that simple. Kiss her if you feel like you can kiss her.
/r/seduction28/11/19 10:14 PM
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You will fell in the same trap https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/e33nl0/im_just_a_loser/ I've just answered him, please see my comment in the link.
/r/seduction28/11/19 09:30 PM
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-Maybe you don't neg or express too much interest too soon -they should work for your attention -maybe later on when you talk to them they enjoy what you say or do but that doesn't convey enough "survival and replication" value. Generally this is the biggest problem and maybe you fail here. A lot of men (AND women) think that if you make them laugh you can pick them up. This is totally wrong! It has ZERO "survival and replication" value. It's only a good to have. These are the real values: • Pre…
/r/seduction28/11/19 09:22 PM
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I used exactly the same in dating apps and works perfectly. Give it a go!
/r/seduction28/11/19 09:06 PM
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"Disinterest makes interest." You ate not a loser. Based on what girls tell you, you've got everything they need. The problem is your opener and the first 20 minutes when they decide whether you are a potential man or just a friend.
/r/seduction28/11/19 08:30 PM
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Sorry but it's really over. You can do whatever you want, it's over.
/r/seduction28/11/19 08:26 PM
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Doesn't matter, it's over. Women categorize you into potential partner or everyone else. You lost this battle but don't worry, you are the prize! She lost eventually!
/r/seduction28/11/19 08:07 PM
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Ask a question: "what do you think is kissing cheating? " Yes, no, whaterver she says. "I'm just asking because last week I had a party with my friends. We were at the bar with my friend while the girls were dancing. When my friend went to check her girlfriend, he saw her kissing with another girl. Is it cheating?" She says something. "And my friend doesn't know whether he should break up with her or buy her a gift as her birthday is next week." The girl says something. "By the way, what's the b…
/r/seduction28/11/19 07:50 PM
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I did Mystery Method for 3 years, 3 to 7 days a week. I was quite successful. Now I've been living in a 10 year LTR with a beautiful, lovely woman. All my earlier, young age disabling frustration are gone, I feel complete, nothing missing from my life, I don't feel I've missed anything. MM made me calm, confident, focused, social, ambitiotus. It's better than being an incel, you know from the news what they do if they get really angry. "Don't hate the player, hate the game." Thanks Mystery!
/r/seduction28/11/19 07:40 PM
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There are certain girls who are turned on by certain traits. Muscle, height, money are strong survival values that's it, but these are not enough and there are other, even stronger values. Look up DHV. These things count: • Preselection from other women • Appearing to be a leader of men • Being supporter and protector of those you love • Being nonneedy • Being unaffected • Social intelligence • Negging her (this IOD is a DHV also) • Having a strong frame • Having interesting knowledge • Emotiona…
/r/seduction28/11/19 05:25 PM
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-Making them laugh. has no survival & reproduction value -Teasing. has minimal survival & reproduction value -Eye contact. has minimal survival & reproduction value -Showing interst and asking them about themselves. has no survival & reproduction value, not to mention "disinterest makes interest" -Being a gentleman(Holding the door,paying the drink,being cheerful,accompany them to metro/bus/car,...etc) has no survival & reproduction value -Being myself. has no survival & reproduction value ​ Loo…
/r/seduction28/11/19 05:18 PM
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Needy and creepy as f###
/r/seduction28/11/19 05:00 PM
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Your looks only determines the time a woman gives you to prove that you are a real man! If you look good, you get more time but that's it. If you are not extremely ugly you have a chances with even 10s! So no, I won't upload my photo.
/r/seduction28/11/19 05:00 PM
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XD A smile and eye contact should be enough. If it's not enough for him then he is not interested or not brave enough to approach.
/r/seduction28/11/19 04:56 PM
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"Is this some subconscious mechanism for them to look their best when around guys they're attracted to? " It is. I experience the same when I wait for the train in the London Underground after work. They touch their hair 2-3 meters from me. Many of them! It can't be a coincidence, there are many people down there and I see this all the time.
/r/seduction28/11/19 02:01 PM
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" These are your women who struggle from relationship to relationship because the only men they seem to find attractive are the assholes. " This actually can go so far that they are only stay with men who beat her up. It's extreme case but there are many of them. ​ " Do you know what happens to women who dated assholes all through their 20s to mid-30s? They get tired of these men and want to settle down with a "nice guy" because these men have shown her all those years that they're reliable and …
/r/seduction28/11/19 01:55 PM
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The worst thing when insecure girls freak out on small negs...
/r/seduction27/11/19 08:35 PM
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It has both some strenghts and weaknesses as well. Too much acting and lack of honesty, IMHO. It has some good principles though. I agree with this. That's why when I reached comfort and gave her IOIs I stopped using gambits and tricks, we just talked about random topics that came up. " But this is beeyond MM, IMHO. " Agree with this too.
/r/seduction27/11/19 01:14 PM
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When she tells you that you don't have to use condom, put it on immediately. Guess why?
/r/seduction27/11/19 01:04 PM
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Day game has many benefits, although it looks scary at first. Benefits: she has lower energy level she is not drunk (hopefully) there are no friends who would suddenly try to "protect" her she is less secure you can approach 10s way more easily if you do indirect she wouldn't think that you are there to pick her up etc... It's just better.
/r/seduction27/11/19 12:02 PM
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got flaked on more times than I can count Lack of comfort building. After the DHV stories and push-pull, after I gave her IOIs I talked with them a lot mainly about them. About their life, feelings, etc. And at that part I never used any "canned materials". This is where they most people fail. Direct is good, I tried it but not for me. It's not good for day game and that's the easiest time to pick up someone.
/r/seduction27/11/19 11:51 AM
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It does work in practice and it can be very close to black magic if you build up a solid game. I built up my game based on his model step by step. First I just opened and opened. Tried out a lot of different openers until I modified an existing one that worked perfectly. Then I added on DHV story and tested that. If it worked I kept it, if not, I created another one. Step by step with a LOT OF TESTING I built up a solid game. I takes time, but then it really works like black magic. I made a mist…
/r/seduction27/11/19 11:36 AM
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if it worked, we'd all be out banging victoria models If it didn't work then how would you explain the spread of the pick up community from mid 2000? From the link: " Famous Pick Up Artist "Mystery" claimed to have had sexual contact with 52 women from 1992 to 1998" Yes, he started going out the meet women at all in 1992, he wrote his book after 13 years (he mentions this in the book) in 2006. He was a totally average bloke in 1992 and that time there were no PUA books or community so you cannot…
/r/seduction27/11/19 11:30 AM
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Step 1) Read Mystery Method Step 2) Execute it
/r/seduction26/11/19 08:38 PM
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" I’m still new to game so I attach too much value to outcomes" Just enjoy it! Just like surfing or scuba diving, the process of playing the game itself is its own reward. It's fascinating to meet new people and explore their lives. If you do not enjoy exploring humanity or proactively conducting lighthearted social experiments for their own sake, you likely will not have the persistence to master the art.
/r/seduction26/11/19 09:55 AM
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If it's not a 'fuck yes' in at least 50%-60%, then you need to improve your game. First always suppose that your game is not good enough and don't blame the girl. This is a winning mentality because you will work on yourself. If it's ambivalent probably you haven't provided enough value.
/r/seduction26/11/19 09:44 AM
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Oh, sorry XD
/r/seduction25/11/19 08:14 PM
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I'm quite surprised that a lot of people here have never heard about Mystery and the Mystery Method. 99% of all other methods are based on the MM. Below you can find my game. I did this so many times below (for 3 years, 3-7 times a week), sometimes I was bored to tell it and it still worked. Without going into details: Opening over the shoulder (90 degrees) while doing something on phone. I wait for the first few word of the answer, then look back to the phone while replying them, but after 15 s…
/r/seduction25/11/19 08:12 PM
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Calling the police? For this? Maybe in the US but not in Europe.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:42 PM
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If everyone "behaved" like this, then it wouldn't work. Btw, it's not a behaviour.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:33 PM
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Why? I have never ever got a negative feedback. Everyone enjoyed it.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:32 PM
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People there seems way more relaxed than in Hungary, although I've never been there.
/r/seduction25/11/19 05:40 PM
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You just need more experience. After 3 years in the game, if I look back, the girls who were 8s-9s 3 years ago now are just 6s-7s. Willingness to fail is a must.
/r/seduction25/11/19 05:30 PM
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I would say 3-4 out of 10. Where about in the US do you live?
/r/seduction25/11/19 05:27 PM
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What could happen?
/r/seduction25/11/19 05:09 PM
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I don't think it would be different in any European or US, AU, CA, NZ. The point is ripping them out of their reality. It's not a cultural thing.
/r/seduction25/11/19 05:05 PM
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As a couple of others mentioned before, kino is everything in the game! That's the best feedback you can get about where you are. "I often fail to get the conversation to a flirty or sexual level" It's good to be cocky and funny but it's not necessary to be like that. If you talk about sexuality too early, she will think that you are needy, so be careful.
/r/seduction25/11/19 04:49 PM
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It depends on how crowded the dance floor is. I would say when it's around 75% of the "max capacity" you try it. " super early ": Morrison's 2 (the place I mentioned) in Budapest is open between 17:00 and 04:00, 7 days a week. Generally by 20:00 almost all dance floors are around at 50%. I finished at work at 17:30, got home, ate something, changed my clothes and was there by 19:00-19:30.
/r/seduction25/11/19 04:38 PM
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Explain it, please.
/r/seduction25/11/19 04:15 PM
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There can be a lot of reasons: -you haven't managed to trigger attraction -you haven't demonstrated enough value -you haven't built enough comfort and rapport -you escalated to quickly Give me more context.
/r/seduction25/11/19 10:02 AM
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