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Vanity? Never, under no circumstance. But these procedures are rarely pure vanity, often it's intra-female conformism/intra-female competitiveness, which I dislike even more. I would gladly participate in costs of something like post-mastectomy reconstruction. As a form of shared fun, I could perhaps pay for something like nails 2-3 times a year if I could decide on the final effect. Naturally I wouldn't choose a colour she actively dislikes, it ought to be fun for both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:03 PM
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I don't kink shame with the exception of online foot fetishists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:33 PM
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It seems that there is a subconscious understanding between men that a mutual conflict can quickly escalate into physical altercation. Women seem to lack such instinct, and at the same time enjoy a certain level of cultural protection ("you can't hit a woman", "she's smaller", etc). This is why they do things like getting between fighting men in an attempt to try to break them up (seen countless of times in street fights recordings), or lamenting online that a Bad Thing happened, several men wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:32 PM
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that i am neurotic, etc Hate to break it to you, but if you are unable to tolerate dry trash staying overnight in a closed bin in a separate room, then he might've been onto something. You having higher cleanliness needs does not mean you have a moral superiority, unless perhaps the other party is a literal pig and a hoarder. With aforementioned attitude you would essentially be forcing a mother-teenage child dynamics onto an adult, mature and independent person. A self-respecting person will no…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:28 PM
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It's not really that much complicated. Data shows that single-living women still spend more time on housework than single-living men, sometimes twice as more. There is simply a difference of expectations what is the right state of house cleaniness/decoration and the whole false narrative of men not pulling their weight in coupled households is built on women's assumption that their standards are the only correct possibility. Page 373 https://www.demographic-research.org/volumes/vol52/12/52-12.pd…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:17 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTIbHIsIYw Happy to provide you an example. 18 Yr Old Woman attemps dating as a man on Tinder. Mind you, the guy is definitely more attractive than the male average. The part that might interest you the most starts at 09:40 - men don't need birth defects or another Big Giant Reason to be invisible to women. You can make no mistakes and still lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:05 PM
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Why would they need deniability Because the differentiation is retroactive and heavily depends on the responder and their response. Woman dresses in whatever she wants -> she chose her outfit to attract a partner if an attractive guy asks her out - but she wore it for herself, to feel sexy and confident if the type of the attention she received in response is not to her liking. I've seen such double-speak from women a hundred of times. Same with make-up or plastic surgery, or posting thirst trap…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:08 PM
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Your reply only reinforces my claim that there is a conflict of interests between self-improvers and attention seekers in the gyms. It might turn out better for you if you stop treating a shared public utility like a low-stakes dating app and instead move to a different venue, a night club for example, to broadcast the "I want personal attention from dateable men only and respectful compliments about my appearance from everyone else" social noise you admit to intentionally do at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:04 PM
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Duh, I have seen women clothed more conservatively and behaving in a more modest way at a BDSM sex party, than in the gym (10+ years gym goer). it does SOMETIMES happen that, if I'm single and there are several men around my age who are datable, I might choose to wear revealing or sexy gym clothes on purpose. You dress for men around your age who are datable (attractive, confident etc.). What message do the un-datable men in the same space receive? Plausible deniability? A version of "teehee, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:50 AM
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Practical, no. There is simply too few of these women, not even including essential dealbreakers that both parties could have, that would limit the pool even further.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:39 PM
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That is correct, thank you for bringing this up. The UK is the representative case here, because in their law rape means the insertion of a penis - so it's impossible for a cis woman to legally rape a man, sadly. The real gap may indeed be much smaller than it is believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:35 PM
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After narrowing down "violent crimes" to sexual violence and domestic violence only, I tend to agree with you, however we may not know the full picture. For example, in the European Union all countries collect data about domestic violence against women, but only 11 of EU's countries collect data about domestic violence against men. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Violence_experienced_by_total_population#Data_sources How can we know the real truth if the data is…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:44 PM
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Especially in a world where women are victims of violent crimes more than men. Your data is wrong. Numbers from various countries consistently show that men are mostly the victims. For example FBI data explorer: https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend Yes, it's also mostly men who commit these violent crimes, however 1.0 % of the total population accounts for 63.2 % of all convictions for violent crimes. When looked at this 1%: persistence in violence was associ…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:58 PM
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It’s also weird when people say men are transactional when a lot of men have nothing to trade A request for clarification about these men that do have something "to trade", care to explain what is it in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:43 PM
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Speaking as someone from Europe - it's Peak Idiocracy. It's likely that not a single minute has been spent thinking about the consequences of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:34 AM
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Simply take a look at those advocating for equal rights in areas where men are discriminated or suffering, and then tell me the gender ratio. Bonus task: take a look at those advocating AGAINST helping men and check the gender ratio as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:24 AM
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So to better define the claim from your previous post: women do take initiative on equal rights, but only in areas when they believe they are discriminated against. Right? If yes, then it's a proof of poor citizenship and low social maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:03 AM
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Things women do take initiative on: Pursuing equal rights, Do you really see many women at the spearhead of the initiatives and groups advocating for gender-neutral conscription, equal retirement age (in countries where it's higher for men), gender quotas in family courts, kindergartens, hands-on construction teams, plumbing, roofing, etc? Because given how outspoken-ly progressive, liberal and all for equality so many women are, I find that disappointedly few of them are pursuing equal rights a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:49 AM
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No, because the mod message didn't say anything about blocking mid-debate. Note from the moderators: "Please unblock all other PPD users." That was all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:48 PM
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I had a few users blocked for a couple of days, possibly a few weeks. To the best of my memory, we were not engaged in any debate, I blocked them during my lurking phase. It wasn't mid-discussion. Then I suddenly got banned on this sub and my ban was lifted only after I removed all these blocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:34 PM
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Let us block users. There is a group of trolls and baiters that definitely do not post in good faith. Let us block them without being banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:16 PM
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Yet somehow when things become hard, demanding or dangerous, it's the men who end up fixing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:41 PM
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Can't list every single reason that causes the difference, but if femdom women can easily go against gender stereotypes in certain aspects, they shouldn't suddenly stop when things become hard, demanding or dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:26 PM
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Can't speak for others, but I simply dislike the plausible deniability. I have seen women clothed more conservatively and behaving in a more modest way at a BDSM sex party, than in the gym. But if asked directly, then it's a version of "teehee, I just prefer to workout half-naked and in full glam make up, and this is my favourite spot to do half-assed lunges, too bad it messes with your 3x bodyweight squats, now stop staring you creep". Same with social media - a group for hiking photos will fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:07 PM
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But the idea that women can’t work for the police or for auto assistance is sexist af. Or just plain statistics, this is why I used the term "generally". While not every single auto assistance person is male and not every night-shift crisis intervention police officer is male, both professions are generally male.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:42 PM
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I know plenty of hard as nails women who would be more than happy to change a tyre. Of course you do. But we are talking about a particular scenario. A dominant/femdom woman and a submissive man in a relationship travelling together by car (whose car is it? who is driving?) and a flat tyre on a highway. Who is stepping out of safety barriers to change the tyre while other cars passing by? Who’s going to sort it out if they don’t? Generally, other men. For personal money (auto assistance) or gove…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:49 PM
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There is barely any demand for submissive men. And even where there is, they cannot be completely submissive - traditionally masculine behaviours will still be expected in several major aspects of life/relationship. From paying and providing resources to dealing with emergencies, because even the most dominant latex-clad whip-wielding woman will not be changing the tyre on a highway or going downstairs to check the strange noise in the middle of the night.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:46 AM
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I think the smut genre enjoys a degree of indulgence the "dirty, ugly, depraved" porn doesn't. I actually read a couple of smut novels out of curiosity. Didn't enjoy it that much, but it surprised me how stereotypical and repetitive they were. Yes, there are vampire billionares and minotaur milking, but the main pattern is a regular, even boring female character made easy to identify as, falling for a powerful mysterious masculine figure and secretly desiring his dominance over herself. Yawn. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:25 AM
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posting about dating frustrations online hurts no one It can hurt the poster. If they accidentally post to a place that happens to be a toxic echo chamber, they can receive comments that are directly hostile. Or even worse, they will receive perceived support and understanding for their struggles, so they will engage with the echo chamber more, slowly becoming extremists themselves. Think: "Coffee date is low effort/No good men left/Always a man/The bar is in hell" from femcel, anti-equality wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:03 AM
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a man can control how much money he makes unless he’s disabled To what extent, in your opinion? Does he have 100% of the control of his earnings and since sky is the limit, precisely nothing stop him from being a multibillionaire?A 90% control? 75%? 50% A man born in the 70's in a Soviet satellite state, how much control did he have?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:35 AM
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it's gotten me into more arguments than I can count, both online and in real life. To OP: do you frequently go around irl and try to convince people that other people should terminate their need & desire to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:13 AM
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Forget me, no one in this thread has found out which countries you have in mind. Since we are posting here in good faith (at least some of the commenters do) please share these countries. This is my last reply to you untill you name them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:18 PM
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I only need to point out that world wide there are only 2 countries in the world were women are equal but men have the disadvantage of the draft. For the sake of the discussion, please do tell us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:33 PM
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I’ve said it 3 times already. Only 2 countries in the world have equalish rights between men and women but a male only draft. And have you named these two countries? Have you given any arguments why the rest of the world doesn't have, in your personal opinion, equalish rights between men and women? women n children were notoriously abandoned by men A system to protect children against this is called alimony (either from the father or from the state), not employment protection for mothers only. t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:01 PM
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It isn't, because there is no pay gap just for the fact of being born a woman. There are only consequences for making certain decisions, for example to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:49 PM
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Because not every woman is a mother. It is not an obligation to become one and an increasing amount of women choose to not go this route - as much as 40% of Millenials, possibly more in Gen Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:36 PM
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"The gender pay gap" does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:29 PM
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What rights exactly do women have that men do not? The right to not have to register for draft at 18/19. The right to retire earlier than men - many countries are still in the process of making it equal, and some countries don't even have an intention to make it equal (Poland - 60yo for women, 65 yo for men. Women can choose to keep working past 60 and they will not pay the income tax from their pay). "Widow's rent" rights sometime acquired earlier (Poland - 60yo for women, 65yo for men). In man…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:24 PM
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You need to update your knowledge. In 2023 a female scientist received a Nobel prize for economics for proving that the so-called "gender pay gap" is de facto a parenthood pay gap. Childless men and women have a very similar income, but the arrival of children brings a “sharp and persistent drop” in women’s earnings while having little effect on men. And given that as much as 40% of women is going to remain childless, possibly more among Gen Z, the "gender pay gap" argument can rest in peace in …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:05 PM
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But systemic sexism is where your brain suddenly gives up? I just gave you several examples of systemic sexism, going as far up as to the constitution (of my country, at least). You chose to ignore all of them just because it is sexism against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:55 PM
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Patriarchy is defined as a system of political, social, and economic relations structured around gender inequality, where women are collectively excluded from full participation in political and economic life, and attributes associated with femininity are undervalued. According to this definition "the patriarchy" in the western world lasted only a couple of decades in the end of XIXth century and early XXth century, because before that 90-99% of population had de facto no personal rights at all …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:47 PM
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Patriarchy theory: ​we live in a patriarchy and men are the privileged/oppressor class. If there is a person either believing this theory, or cynically using it for manipulating others.... why would anyone reasonable try to seek help from such person? Anyway, women not only make 70-80% of therapists, but also 80-85% of patients. The so-called talk therapy is largely becoming a female activity, tailored for female needs, POVs and problems, and men should be aware of it. https://www.youtube.com/wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:07 AM
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The existence of the fantasy with its commonness is not something that should be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:17 AM
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To have a quick example, do a simple exercise. Go to a bookstore, to an erotic romance books section (readers are 90%+ female) and look for visual patterns. You will see that the covers almost exclusively present the most stereotypically masculine figures with next to no variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:59 AM
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Women historically needed a man in order to participate in society Historically the vast majority of people never participated in any society. 99% of human population was busy just trying to survive. 99%'s livelihood depended on hard work and making more babies to have more hands available for work - and gender was irrelevant to this. The 99% was equally exploited by the upper class. You seem to be talking about a couple of decades from the end of XIXth century and first part of XXth century. Ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:31 AM
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You conveniently ignore misandry that is systemic. Not cultural beliefs held by some in this or that place, but hard-coded laws for every single person in a country. Like compulsory military service only for men, higher retirement age for men (case of my country), higher lifting norms for physical labour (based on sex, not actual physical abilities). Or statistics that are not made up. Like male suicides (in my country 13 people take their lives every day, 11 are men), lighter prison sentences f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:15 AM
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I think this is the distinction I've been trying to make. You actually gave highly useful and actionable dating advice that does not blame the dateless for their failures. It's a rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:20 AM
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I'm criticising bad advice, not advocating bad behaviour. Being a "good person" is typically presented as if it's sufficient or even the primary factor in dating success. The whole "the bar is in hell" feminist angle - this gaslighting BS needs to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:13 AM
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That's fair, I actually agree with your POV. I simply disagree with the mainstream dating advice because it's delulu land and the truth is that sexual and romantic attraction is amoral. On one hand it means that people can be attracted to "bad" people (or to those with dirty butts, lol) and being "good" does not equal with being attractive. But on the other hand, and this is perhaps even more important, being unattractive (unselected, undesired) is not equal to being a "bad" person. Being involu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:57 AM
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You misunderstand the issue. One of the main dating/relationship advice given to men by the mainstream (BluePill, feminists...) is go be "good" - kind, respectful, honest, hard-working, self-sacrificing, etc. As if dating was a meritocracy and relationships were gatekept behind being a good man. The serial killer/drug dealer argument is simply a rebuttal of the mainstream narrative. It goes like: I am a regular guy, I cannot find a relationship despite honest effort, you tell me to be a good man…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:20 AM
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women often end up taking on more domestic labor in live-in relationships Except the data repeatedly shows that after adding paid work (a job) and domestic labour, men both spend more time "working" and their cumulative work is worth more for the household
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:16 PM
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Why "nothing else"? There is a hierarchy and, for example, being sexually attractive enough that women will ask you out by themselves (or a romantic partner will regularly initiate sex on her own) is valued by most of the men more than, for example, being considered "husband material", "one of the good ones" or "the one who stepped up for a child thst wasn't his".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:29 PM
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Why do you consider some random posts on a bumble's subreddit as a sample that is even remotely representative?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:29 PM
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I wonder if the OP's activity breaks Core Rule (3) Do Not Troll, and Post Guideline (8) Posts should be in good faith? It's hard to take a post like this as a good faith invitation for a debate. Barely coherent, provocative, controversial statements served as facts without any proofs, generalisations. I do realise threads like this one generate traffic on the sub, but come one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:17 PM
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No women are not more forgiven The data about sex disparity in criminal sentencing directly contradicts this. A 2020 study shows that women receive 33% (15 days) shorter prison sentences than men, even when controlling for all observable characteristics – including a very precise description of the crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:02 PM
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The issue a lot of men have is they get online and find the worst places to go From the cause-and-effect point of view, it makes sene. The liberal mainstream isn't really friendly towards men, the popular culture definitely isn't, conservative spaces tell men they need to take more and more sacrifices, only 35% of women under 25yo have a positive view of men, "I'd choose bear"... It is in human nature to form groups and alliances of like-minded people. If seemingly the only space that isn't bias…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:26 PM
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I believe that part has already been mostly achieved. But we lack the effort on other fronts. For example: I live in a country where 30% of women believe it is never OK for men to cry, 48% answered it is mostly OK and only 22% answered it is always OK. Do you think it is enough acceptance so that even the men tolerant about crying would feel safe enough to actually cry to their partner, female friend, female family member? Mind you, the question was about attitudes only, not a "Would you tolerat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:16 PM
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At this point we don't really need anymore to tell men is it okay to cry. Men got the message. At this point we need to convince the society to be more tolerant of weakness in men (crying, suffering, failure etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:46 PM
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Open up about your struggles in other areas of life and how you're overcoming them. So you claim men shouldn't open up about struggles they have problems overcoming (for example, sexlessness, not being desired by women, being unable to form a relationship etc), but can open up only with the struggles they have upper hand at? This level of policing what men should and shouldn't do or behave is precisely the reason men generally don't open up at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:43 PM
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At least the Blue Pill isn't hypocritical on this point. When we say [...] being bi is fine[...], we actually mean it. Ever heard of biphobia? It happens everywhere and is frequent, also in progressive liberal spaces, even in queer spaces. Hell, even bi women are biased against bi men. BluePill and mainstream are not nearly as immaculate as you paint them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:41 AM
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And on a household/marriage level it is a net zero. Some time usually needs to be taken off to raise the kids... if the couple even decides to have any. At least 40% of couples are not going to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:35 AM
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So it's the opposite. Take a step back. You are attempting to compare a very specific string of decisions (women who: decided to have multiple children, then decided to stop their careers for a significant amount of time, then got divorced) that made them use a legal possibility (to keep working despite reaching retirement age) vs a systemic law that forbids half of the population from retiring earlier, based on biological gender. It's not even comparable. And the circumstances you try to paint …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:34 AM
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One of the several relics of the so-called "patriarchy" women are not keen to give up, as it directly benefits them. C'mon ladies, be mature, responsible and accountable members of the society. Take one for the team and campaign to raise women's retirement age to 65yo, same as men's retirement age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:12 AM
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It's mostly irrelevant, as men - and people in general - not understanding the need to shower and perform basic hygiene will also lack the cognitive resources needed to seek advice, hear it, implement it and see what the results will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:57 AM
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"Wake up earlier, take colder showers..." The majority of dating/relationship advices given to men assume they are not enough and do things wrong. Mainstream liberal, tradcon, feminist and redpill advices form a bizarre agreement on this matter. There is no point where people will tell a man "Actually, you're good enough as you are. Your current accomplishments should have attracted a woman by now. It's clearly not your fault and something else must be the problem. You are a good person worthy o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:05 PM
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It matters, because it invalidates the discussion about men approaching women in public and makes any moral judgement possible only post factum and highly dependant on the approach. "Tall, hot, charismatic and funny guy approached me at the gym and said he likes how my booty looks in those neon-pink two-sizes-too-small leggings.... teehee, sure I wanna go for a coffee!" A regular 6.5/10 guy tries the same and suddenly "Sorry, I'm just here to workout." I actually mostly agree with you, but I nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:26 PM
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All true, but at the same time all is plausible deniability if the man approaching is not charismatic or hot enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:09 PM
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It's a rough preselection. It's in women's best interest to spread the message to not approach them in public. Those confident, charismatic, extroverted, experienced - more desirable in general - will ignore the advice and approach anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:08 PM
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For men, yes. According to the mainstream narrative every problem that affects us is our fault. Hyperagency to the maximum.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:14 PM
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Women aren’t any better at knowing which women are high quality and which one aren’t Not really. Ever heard of female intrasexual competitiveness? Example: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019188692300329X • Highly competitive women advised hypothetical salon clients to cut off more hair. • Women told clients of similar attractiveness as themselves to cut off the most hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:06 PM
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70% said they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:48 PM
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Two socially-awkward introverted loners can have a wonderful, loving and intellectually stimulating relationship. Being a social butterfly extrovert isn't, and shouldn't be, a requirement for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:14 PM
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It means that at this point we don't really need to keep telling men it is okay to cry, but rather work on social acceptance of men crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:11 PM
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I would like to strongly emphasise on the importance of socialisation in one's formative years. It gives the snowball effect - those who socialise will become even more social, those who missed this opportunity will degenerate further.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:18 PM
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Validation? Rather basic human decency and elementary empathy. I live in a country where 30% women will openly state in a poll that it is unacceptable for men to cry (ever). And how many more will virtue signal their progressiveness, but deep down their unempathetic souls still negatively judge men for showing emotions?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:14 PM
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bad self esteem [...] trying to convince your partner you love them while they incoherently accuse you of loving your past partners more than them. You are not describing poor social skills, but mental disorders and unhealthy attachment styles. People can happen to have poor social skills "just like that", not necessary because there is something deeply wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:06 PM
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Here or in general population? Either way, your observation may be accurate for some, in particular those farther on the autism spectrum. However, I want to object - just like no one is owed a relationship, also a relationship cannot be gatekept behind vague criteria like "proper socialization" or BS like "you need to love yourself first".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:12 PM
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A custom hand-made, hand-sewn leather bag from top shelf raw materials is a few orders of magnitude higher status that a Prada bag, but I digress. I do agree that engaging in intra-female competition with status bags, nails, hyaluronic lips, caterpillar lashes etc often correlates with a certain personality. I also agree that many men do not enjoy this type of personality in a romantic partner, but could likely deal with it in a strictly sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:17 PM
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If your data is questioned by separate people from different angles then maybe it isn't the best and most accurate resource to base your argument on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:11 PM
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The Pew Research's report (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/02/key-findings-about-online-dating-in-the-u-s/) is from 3.5 years ago and explains the survey done 4 years ago. With how quickly the society, the social media and the online is changing, I no longer consider such resources as up to date. But even if we ignore the fact that the research is outdated, it still only looks at the presently partnered adults while ignoring all the relationships that existed in the meantime, per…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:04 PM
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Men could just date women that split the bill. But they don't want to You REALLY need to explain how you've came to this conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:53 PM
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There is a discussion worth having about societal and economical aspects of the increasing number of people not being able to form romantic couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:38 PM
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Only 10-25% of couples in America met through apps. Sorry, but your approach is wrong. All your couples that met at church in the 90's and at the office in the 00's and happen to still be together, are irrelevant for the discussion. At least start counting from 2015-ish, when dating apps started to explode. Though I'm not sure it's even possible to measure it correctly. If a person had 3 long-term relationships after 2015, two of them were from offline and one from online dating, but currently h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:35 PM
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It's not going particularly good with birthing those babies, these days almost 40% of women will be childless in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:40 PM
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Then your culture does not value equality, is outdated and should be changed by all the progressive, liberal, pro-equality, anti-"patriarchy" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:32 PM
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I think a lot of women see it as getting ready, putting effort into appearance, etc. which I don’t think men find equivalent. Men don't find it equivalent, because we are at almost every step reprimanded that women do not dress, put on make up, style their hair, wear neon-pink leggings two sizes too small to the gym etc, for us - but for themselves, to feel good. Of course most of us realise the truth, but it is both pointless and socially unacceptable to call out the plausible deniability of it…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:24 PM
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I'm not interested in them, but it doesn't make me blind to the phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:15 PM
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When I seem to encounter men not wanting to pay for a date it seems like he is either not interested in the woman romantically or he is argumentative/has low agreeableness. People who score high on measures of agreeableness are empathetic and self-sacrificing, while those with low agreeableness are prone to selfishness, insincerity, and zero-sum thinking. Those who score low on agreeableness may show dark triad tendencies, such as narcissistic, antisocial, and manipulative behavior. Then would y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:13 PM
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Remember the "The woman I’m dating gave me onions and tomatoes from her garden" post? https://www.np.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/1g7lce8/the_woman_im_dating_gave_me_onions_and_tomatoes/ It's just an example, a symbol. The onions and tomatoes themselves are irrelevant, their monetary value does not matter and they shouldn't be bartered for a restaurant dinner. But she cared enough to give him a personal gift she had homegrew for herself. The value of such gift is colossal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:08 PM
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You're acting that those are the only hypocrites in the world I dislike many kinds of hypocrisy and it is just only one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:07 PM
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that is true with some more traditional men For some, yes. But I'd wager that the majority of men who are willing to pay for the first few dates operate on the Strategic Conformity - they may not agree with the outdated norm of paying, but choose to forego their beliefs because the potential reward (companionship, date(s), sex, a relationship) outweighs the financial and moral cost of doing so. Also known as, the Scarcity Mindset. Many women also decide to forego their equality ideals to pragmat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:31 AM
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Because a non-trivial cohort of women will expect men to pay for the first few dates (also: to initiate the contact, to ask them out and plan the date(s)), which is a traditional/conservative dynamic in dating. The effort they expect of men, while not needed to be mirrored, is hardly matched by adequate actions/behaviour. The same women will non-ironically describe themselves as liberal, progressive, anti-"patriarchy" and all for equality, but fail to spot the contradiction. I simply dislike thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:01 AM
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Why should I assume that top libido women go after top libido men? Well, it's the compatibility between partners and as you say, you yourself are the proof that just like tall women typically going after taller than average men, high libido women go after above average libido men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:19 AM
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Yet again we see the apex fallacy in play. You compare top libido women with average libido men. It makes no sense. It's the same as with height. There are women that are higher than the average male height for a country, but these women typically select partners from the top height male cohort, not average height cohort. You should assume that top libido women typically go after at least above average libido men, usually even top libido men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:03 AM
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I don't agree that mainstream feminists operate under this belief. On the contrary, they seem to operate under the assumption that being a man is like an original sin. Being born a man is supposedly enough to be guilty by default of everything they want to accuse us these days and to be given "the oppressor" archetype under the misandrist claim that men have been the eternal oppressors of women. This is the exact opposite of the blank state theory you claim feminists follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:41 AM
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You make the mistake of equating OF creators with porn stars and with regular prostitutes in the comments as well. OF is the toxic mix between visual entertainment of regular porn and para-social relationship between the buyer and the seller like in the oldschool prostitution, which at least gave the buyer some real life physical sensations. Despite that OF creators shouldn't be shamed per pe. The aforementioned toxic mix, however, spurs certain behaviours which should definitely be critiqued an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:46 PM
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While I might not be opposed to your explanation in itself, don't you agree it is quite funny that laws affected by gender roles happen to be beneficial for one gender only these days? And those infantilised by such laws tend to do disappointedly little to end them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:40 AM
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The patriarchy is real. Most professional & social settings orient around male leadership / male positions of power, and this is the default expectation for most people. From your another comment: I agree Legislative patriarchy does not exist. My post is about cultural patriarchy. Let's just leave "the patriarchy" as some weird unclear cultural relic for now. Let's focus on the legislative reality. most of the western countries have male-only military conscription, some still have higher retirem…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:29 AM
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The attractiveness is secondary here, borderline irrelevant. No man, with the exeption of certain fetishists, has ever thought: "gee, what a nice gal. If she only had a 1mL of lip filler in her lips she would look so much better!". These women are getting the attention not because of, but despite fish lips, botox, caked make up, etc. Such fashion decisions are simply considered as indicators of being easy to have sex with. It's really not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:02 PM
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Many women watch visual porn as well, and they have a taste for rougher categories than men: https://i.huffpost.com/gen/2106548/thumbs/o-WOMENPRON2-570.jpg?3 You also ignore erotic novels which for women functionally are largely equivalent to porn for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:21 PM
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Because there are more women wanting a male leader for a partner, than there are natural-born male leaders. Some men can get there if they want to or if there is an incentive, and a supportive person could help them a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:33 PM
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Guy meets a girl he adores but breaks up with her Perhaps she didn't adore him in the similar way? Reciprocation is quite important.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:19 AM
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People in general, gender irrelevant, have children quite thoughtlessly. It doesn't mean all of them suck at parenting, but they never really put any critical thinking into the decision. A good proof of this is asking people "why have you decided to have children?". Usually you get the dear in the headlights effect, only after a while some semi-coherent response might appear, though it is either egoistical ("I wanted to", "I want to pass family name"...) or again, thoughtless ("ekhm, that's what…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:16 AM
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Sure, if she wants it. But if she wants a strong and capable leader and is not willing to support a man (her man) becoming one, then congratulations - you have just discovered one of the RedPill's observations, that women generally don't care about men's struggles, but wait at the finish line to fuck the winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:08 AM
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If it's not that difficult, then why women are so often so keen on upkeeping traditional, "patriarchal" norms in dating? I actually agree with the poster above that dating should be two people figuring out if they like each other and are compatible. But at the same time I see how many women and how often seek to follow the "patriarchal" script of men as pursuers with hyperagency and themselves as evaluators and winnable rewards. And it's particularly disappointing when self-appointed liberal and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:54 AM
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The men couldn't vote either, or otherwise make independent decisions about their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:45 AM
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Men are checking out because that another human will generally not ask them out, not plan an 1 hour outing and generally doesn't like to pay during the initial stages, but at the same time will act like an evaluator of the efforts the man had to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:19 AM
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men wrote the draft into law, judges and lawmakers are overwhelmingly male, as are industry regulators and CEOs. You forgot to mention that those who vote are more often female.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:11 AM
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You seem to be highly selective in where you draw the line between the oppressed and the oppressors. For example, presently my country wants me to work five years longer than women before I reach retirement age, and in case of a draft will ignore the "my body, my choice" rule and conscript my ass to the military. I gather just because I happen to be a cis male this is not oppression in your perception? Or will you somehow victim blame me that it is my fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:06 AM
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1) we live in a patriarchy 2) this patriarchy orders itself into many hierarchies with men constantly competing with each other for a higher spot. 3) to be high up in the hierarchy in a patrarchial society. It’s a super safe inference to say that these men have already committed toxic masculinity to other, lower status men in the hierarchy. If almost all of the male population with the exception of the highest caste is in some way exploited or abused by those above, and said highest caste also h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:37 AM
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They actually have their story completely straight - but it's not a looks vs wealth/status/skills dillema. Their narrative is that it is always men's fault for being unattractive or partnerless, no matter if the actual reasons are innate, learned/acquired or systemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:30 AM
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complaining that men are swinging hard to the right If you are talking about the line charts from several countries that made a run on social media a while ago, with the exception of South Korea the men have mostly stayed at the same spot on the left vs right scale. It's the women who have radicalised into the far left. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/16/greta-thunberg-aoc-radicalisation-of-young-women-femospher/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_tw_post_radicalisation-of-young-women-femospher/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:24 AM
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They can - because AWALT, albeit a generalisation, affects only one gender. And genderizing a behaviour like cheating affects two at the same time - one is attributed to behave in a certain way, while the other is presented as blameless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:05 PM
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Except being subservient is not treating the wife as an equal, but as a superior or more important, hence the "yes-honey" husbandism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:54 PM
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Not nice, but subservient, indecisive, passive, overly accommodating, pedestalizing and depreciating for own needs and own self. And bad and harmful not in general, but for their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:41 PM
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Meh, it's not that important to me to consider it "hate" - simply with age and experience I became quicker to judge which behaviours and attitudes I agree with, and which I consider bad or harmful. But even in such cases, besides general broad judgment, I usually let people make their mistakes. So I don't care much for a "yes-honey" husband and his increasingly bored and unstimulated wife, even though I can recognize and name the dynamic. One exception is when certain attitudes affect me directl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:30 PM
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As the red pillers proudly tell us. Men don't care about women's careers, achievements, intelligence or even their personality beyond being submissive (aka obedient objects). They also proudly tell us that women will be replaced by sex robots, again indicating that they don't give a shit about women's humanity and just want a possession. You sure these two groups consist of the same people?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:47 AM
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There may be glass bubbles online, but what changes the second a male-hating bigoted misandrist puts down the phone? They don't suddenly stop hating men, they only become more cautious of spreading their toxic spew because of cowardice. But they still act according to the belief that men are toxic abusive oppressors. Same with desperate simps or spineless wifey's hubbies from reddit or facebook. These are real people operating in real life as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:44 AM
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If there was some spell / hive mind Well, some people do believe there is a great conspiracy of men, that it rules the world and keeps the women down. They call it "the patriarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:35 AM
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While some improvement in social skills should pretty much always be possible, there are two issues. First, your starting level may vary and is largely outside of your control. Perhaps your parents were socially isolated people and never cared for your social development, thus you met no kids your age beside in school and grew up socially stunted. Even after spending x amount of time, effort, trial and error, constantly stepping out of your comfort zones etc and achieving some progress, you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 01:14 PM
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for a brief moment in time rich men’s wives didn’t work, post war profit, lasted less than a generation What is also important, it only happened in a small part of the world - the few developed nations that either won not only theoretically but also in practice (only USA in this group), or had its people and land not terribly ravaged by the war.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 12:45 PM
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Great. Look after age 30. It's interesting how confidently you ignore the consequences of the lack of romantic and sexual relationships in the formative years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:19 AM
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It seems a bit like putting the cart before the horse to me. The safe space should come first to allow room for honesty. Strangely it doesn't work this way for blue pillers and the mainstream when it comes to men showing emotions and generally being vulnerable or suffering. Men are frequently told they need to show their vulnerable side etc, but ignored is the fact how they are treated when they do after having believed this message. Spoiler alert, usually it turns out from poorly to catastrophi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:47 PM
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Why do young men need so much guidance? Because present mainstream discussion about masculinity is generally limited to what is supposedly wrong with it. Young men are admonished and the word "toxic" seems to be fused with "masculinity" so well that is functions as a one term. There seems to be no good or regular masculinity anymore. This is coupled with the rise of single motherhood and disconnected fathers (two separate phenomena), the dissolution of boy-only and men-only communities and the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:25 PM
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You seem to deny the possibility that women can make poor decisions - like staying in a relationship with a hot, confident guy despite obvious red flags. Naturally, if you subscribe to this "woman always victim" mentality, consequences of their poor actions/decisions will seem like an abuse or oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:03 PM
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If in your opinion it better describes the situation, you can change "psychopaths" to "people manifesting patterns of psychopathic traits and behaviour" - my point still stands. as soon as they see that something is wrong Take a look at any dating/relationship advice/askwomen subreddit, the getting out part frequently isn't "as soon as".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:09 PM
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No idea, the term "toxic men" has lost any reasonable meaning these days, if it ever had any. So it might mean anything from "this man did one thing I moderately disliked" to "the cheating, abusive narcissist I am addicted to refuses to treat me like a human being".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:59 PM
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I would like to correct/expand on your view: Women are attracted to confidence, independence and boundaries and if assholeness comes in tow (psychopathy, sociopathy, narcissism, aggression, manipulation, overcompensating for insecurities, etc), they usually don't mind it. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:47 PM
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"Way less" doesn't mean "gender specific". You are contradicting yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:40 AM
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Just show us these group chats as a proof. You claim they are multiple, with thousands of users, constantly showing up in the news. You shouldn't have a problem with finding, I don't know, maybe 10 different examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:37 AM
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You mixed up the sections of the research. I talk about and post numbers of respondents talking about their personal beliefs ("To what extent do you personally agree or disagree"). You either intentionally, or by ignorance, looked at the part asking for opinions about respondents in a country ("To what extent do you think more people in [COUNTRY] would agree or disagree..."). Written text understanding 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:27 AM
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Ever heard the phrase "the richest third world country"? Damn, I love being from Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:52 AM
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The news I follow generally do not show such outrageous, sensational, sexist pieces. And if from time to time something like this appears, I am wise enough to not take at at face value, and apply critical thinking and verification skills before I go around and re-post it everywhere with certainty of a constitutional level.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:50 AM
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Also you forgot to add that there is an overlap between the guys that "want a wife and kids" also think "a wife needs to obey her husband". That also doesnt sound like a selling point. You mean that oversimplified chart from a research that grouped India, Malaysia, Indonesia, South Africa etc with western countries? Cause if you do, percentages who agree that "a wife needs to obey her husband" are 4% in Sweden, 6% in Hungary and Netherlands, 7% in Japan, France and Belgium, and so on. But yeah, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:25 AM
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Which men? How much of the general population? Which country? How did you identified which of the thousands of members are actually male? What are YOU doing in such group chats in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:11 AM
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Not knowing about opposite gender's health and body is not a gender-specific issue. And neither is looksmaxxing, take a look at Vindicta/GlowUp subreddits dedicated for women. Or even any makeup/fashion/hair subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:06 AM
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Do you at least agree that mainstream advice no longer works, or is straight up counterproductive, for the increasingly large amount of single men in current western societies?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:39 AM
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A request for clarification: Assuming you were a hetero/bi-sexual woman in a monogamous relationship with a man, would you mind if your partner interacted at his gym with a young, attractive woman who definitely is not objectifying herself despite wearing a neon-pink two-sizes-too-small leggings shorts with booty padding, a bikini-style sports bra and a face full of glam make-up? Would you mind if his instagram following was full of attractive women like this? Who simply want to test the limits …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:04 AM
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What supports OP's view is how eager are women to use sex/dating/relationship-based insults when they don't like someone or their opinion. From incels, porn addicts and small pp's against men, to pick-me's against other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:19 PM
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They will mostly go with the sedation route and channel their most of their energy into porn, video games, digital entertainment, para-social relationships (OnlyFans, online personas), various other outlets for cheap dopamine and fleeting comfort. My comment about meritocracy was about dating on individual, not global level. I generally agree with you that it is not healthy for a society to have large parts of it unable to form relationships and, for those interested, start having children. I si…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:46 PM
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Well, women prefer men with benevolent misogyny/benevolent sexism in attitudes and behaviours over men without those traits: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29957149/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:38 PM
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CBT fails, and fails hard, in cases when there is no maladaptive paterns nor cognitive distortions. I have a semi-hot take that sometimes depression and other disorders, while still harmful and bad, are logically justified. There are external reasons or systemic causes. Sometimes circumstances just plain suck and even the most mentally healthy person in the world put in such position would start to have problems. In such cases CBT feels like gaslighting and invalidating your life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:50 PM
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so many men complaining are just introverts who refuse to gain some charisma stats and talk to women Being introverted isn't a choice. Neither are being autistic, socially anxious or awkward, and these traits are often comorbidities in those introverts who struggle with dating. Your POV is ableist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:33 PM
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Disregarding for a moment that also mothers are responsible for raising their offspring - perhaps the fathers have already stepped up. It takes two decades to raise an adult human. The change may already be happening, we only need time to see its effects. And fatherhood certainly evolves, for example Millennial fathers spend roughly as much time with their children, as Baby Boomers mothers did back in their days. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2026/01/09/millennials-spend-more-time-tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:34 PM
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Yes, they are failing. There even is a semi-common trend of fathers raising their daughters as functional princesses - removing all obstacles, straightening all difficulties, solving all problems before they even arise. There is zero accountability demanded. And the worst, they are taught to expect the same from their future partners. While these fathers believe they do good, in fact they form persons poorly prepared to live an independent, adult life. And there are possible mental health proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:20 PM
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There are two dynamics here and you have identified only one. Desirable men do date a lot, because they are, well, desirable to plenty enough of women. And due to being so popular, they have no urge to settle down. But dating is not a meritocracy - you are not rewarded a partner for having "good" character traits and doing "good" in life. Dating neither is a video game achievement system - you are not rewarded for progressing enough on your self-improvement journey. There are also practical aspe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:57 AM
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Let's go beyond the "ability to tolerate own company" you talk about. There are people out there, likely most of them are male, that in 30+, 40+ years of their lives have never experienced anyone being romantically or sexually attracted to them. It's dehumanising. They did nothing wrong, they are good honest people, there is no fault in there. Yet something so fundamental to human existence is beyond their grasp. At the same time, they see that people around them that pair bond simply by existin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:44 AM
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You may be talking about young autistic boys being cared for by their caretakers. Because for autistic men, coddling is the very last thing that happens to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:05 PM
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just [...] just [...] just [...] just Bro. You don't need to be an unhygienic psychopath, being an autistic introvert is plenty enough for people to not come to talk to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:02 PM
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Depends on the order. Contemplative convents generally do not go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:16 AM
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If you take a step back to look at your statement from another perspective, then the claim that being sexually harassed almost daily is the true reality of every woman on this planet is just logically absurd and impossible. Obviously on the emotional level it really well fits the narrative of men being the eternal oppressors of women. But I'll bite at the emotional level. There are women that live in female-only communities - nuns in a convent, for example. If your claim was even remotely close …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:22 AM
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I am a modern man and I prefer that traditions get modernised. So if she expects an engagement diamond ring, she better has a nice dress wrist watch ready for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:27 PM
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It might be a logical turn of events, but is it good or bad in your opinion? I don't care for watching sports at all, but aren't there plenty of complaints that female athletes earn less? https://www.forbes.com/sites/brookchoulet/2024/12/22/how-unequal-pay-and-unpredictable-earnings-cause-stress-for-women-in-sports/ No idea. It's questioned by more and more people, even the European Court of Justice has ruled it is a legal discrimination of men. But no one has been able to rationally explain it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:21 PM
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No idea, I don't believe it exists. But there are certain people who believe it does, or even controls the world, that it's bad and needs to be overthrown. At the same time these people notoriously make choices and engage in behaviours that directly enforce this terrible patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:00 PM
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So could she. But these actions either were within boundaries of then-law (generally the marriage laws assumed that both spouses have the obligation to have sex with each other, so man's impotency could result in corporal punishment), or had legal, social or religious consequences. Example: wifebeating was punished by pillory in Colonial America, male family members typically intervened in cases of marital abuse, adultery was a crime still far in XXth century and men were not exempted. The narra…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:55 PM
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After Russia initiated a full-scale war with Ukraine on 24.02.2022, Ukrainian women had the right to leave the country and seek safe refuge somewhere else - and still have this right. Meanwhile Ukrainian men were forbidden from leaving the country, even if civilian. Last year, the law was altered - men aged 18-22 can now leave but older men still lack the freedom of seeking safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:24 PM
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Ruled? A king can rule over his peasants. What power had a peasant over his wife? Both similarly struggled to survive, both had no money, both had to work their fields and the fields of their lords, both were born as peasants and both would die as peasants, both needed as many children as possible to have more workforce, both couldn't read, both ate crap food and both got ill. Only the husband could be herded into a military unit to go and die fighting for some lord he didn't even know the name …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:54 PM
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I will ignore the misandrist, distorted and strawman part on your argument and focus on the part that is "just" factually wrong. Most women these days have no interest in dating or marrying men Only 34% of women below 30, and 28% of all women report being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:48 PM
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Would you agree that at the same time there are people, groups, organisations, media etc that tell women that the source of all their problems are men, that men are oppressing them and always have been oppressing them through the history? If you do agree, who do you think benefits the most from the gender/social war of the last decade or two?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:17 PM
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The redpill conveniently also forgets that decades ago, women weren’t allowed to vote, control their own money, and needed a man’s permission to do anything. She was a males property. Not so long ago no one except the ruling class/the "haves" could vote, had any real disposable income, freedom to move or to choose their occupation. And even those couldn't really choose their spouse and decide if they want children. What you talk about didn't really exist in the way you paint it. Times when men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:18 PM
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Do you care equally as much about cases when there is a reversed pay gap and women earn more? What do you do about it? Examples: those working full-time between the ages of 16 and 24, the gender pay gap has reversed. This means that for much of Gen Z (...) women on average are slightly higher paid than men Top-earning female models in 2025 made 148% more than their male counterparts. For instance, the highest-paid female model earned $15 million, while the top male model earned around $6 million…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:38 PM
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Of this whole bunch of misandrist strawman arguments, I want to address this part: "I want her to have and raise my kids without acknowledging or compensating for the cost of pregnancy and motherhood" -highlight by me- Why do you deny women their motherhood and the agency they may have in procreation? Women are people fully capable of mature parenthood and wanting to have children for their personal reasons. You pretending motherhood to be something only/primarily done for men, that you believe …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:57 AM
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Neither the vast majority of those who non-ironically use this term.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:32 AM
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the places that teach these skills also happen to believe in strongly misogynistic ideals and reinforces toxic masculinity. Would you say that women who positively respond to PUA techniques, pick-up stuff etc, also reinforce toxic gender roles? Also, do women who expect the man to invite, arrange and pay for their first date, reinforce the "toxic masculinity" as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:15 AM
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The sex itself may or may not be worth jumping through hoops - but being unable to have sex with another person despite honest effort is a miserable state to exist in. Being, for example, 30 yo in the state of involuntary celibacy is terribly dehumanizing and erodes one's self worth at the fundamental level. So it is reasonable that such person in order to gain the general ability to have sex, is willing to make certain additional effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:45 AM
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A correction of your view: they are not red-pillers, but rather an iteration of tradcons. Guardians of the Patriarchy, one could say. It is ironic how eagerly many of the progressive, liberal women will defend the relics of "the patriarchy" that directly benefit them - from cultural customs regarding the initial stages of dating, through marriage proposals, hypergamy or bi men acceptance, to stuff like keeping uneven retirement ages (certain first world countries still discriminate men here) or …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:31 AM
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In addition to what the others have answered, this sub becomes much better when you block the obvious trolls/rage baiters who post provoking threads daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:21 AM
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Not an outlier, because there are many countries in the world with similar legal discrimination of men. Ironic is that we actually have a somewhat liberal transgender laws and it's relatively easy to change one's gender. So if a man wishes to retire at the age equal to women's retirement age, it may actually be simpler for him to change his legal gender than to wait for the retirement ages to become equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:11 PM
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What is gender ratio in political arena in your country? Women vote at a big higher % rate than men. For two years we had a Ministry of Equality with a female Minister that chose not to push any meaningful changes. Also, what stops men from pushing for even retirement age the same way they push for anti-abortion laws around the world? Why men find it easier to fight for women's oppression than for the improvement of men's lives? You are dishonest here, in first world countries men actively pushi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:00 PM
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Even if you technically benefit from inequality, I don't know how you could live with yourself just letting it happen. I live in the only country in the EU that still has uneven retirement age (and isn't on schedule to make it equal) - 60 yo for women and 65 yo for men. Let me tell you, our women have no problems with this inequality. On the contrary, they will advocate for keeping the uneven ages and on the same breath complain about low pensions (which are low, because they have less working y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:09 PM
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I can't help but think that they find me attractive but hate the fact that since much more guys desire me, they'll have to work much harder if they wanna conquer me. Well, the deep cleavages and the miniskirts not so much increase your attractiveness, but rather announce that it might be easy to have sex with you. So the attention you get when dressed like that is mostly an attempt to verify you willingness to have sex with new people. If this is the ego boost you seek, then all is fine I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:05 AM
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You're assuming that wives get to access their husband's money as if it was their own They kinda do. Women across the globe will control 75% of discretionary spending in the next 5 years. [...] Women are increasingly making economic decisions for their families and have 70-80% influence on all consumer spending.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:12 PM
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Thank you for your honesty, it is really a breath of fresh air here when a woman admits that they are indeed privileged in certain areas. Usual reactions vary from silence, through dismissal and denial, to hostility.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:29 AM
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If you don't like Rollo then I'm not going to defend him. One particular persona is not relevant for my argument. They could have interviewed, for example, Cassie Jaye, who made "The Red Pill" documentary. Or the David M. Buss guy you mentioned (he's still alive). Or anyone else, really, anyone with at least a tiny bit of credibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 04:10 PM
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The fact that he did a "documentary" on the subject and didn't speak to someone like Rollo Tomassi or didn't try to find out what socio-cultural conditions allowed the manoshpere to be formed in the first place, is absolutely disqualifying. They simply carefully selected the easiest picks, the lowest hanging fruits and made a job good enough at exposing these individuals who are focused on using gender wars for internet clout and personal profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 03:19 PM
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Women, even the most liberal and progressive, turn into Guardians of the Patriarchy when it comes to the initial stages of dating. It's fine to expect the initiator of the date to pay but only if genders invite on dates at roughly the same rate, which still isn't happening. Looks like we do need more equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:11 AM
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Could you tell us what would equal effort look like? A guy organizes a classy dinner at a nice restaurant, takes care of all the logistics and pays for everything - for a woman he is meeting for the first time. Please explain, if women do put equal effort into initial stages of dating, what could it be for a scenario like this? Because if the effort is to be matched, it needs to happen within 1st or maybe 2nd date, not in some distant future. Any ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:06 AM
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Every single Congresswoman that has ever voted for a military action and every single woman that has ever voted for a pro-war politician. Don't deny women their agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:09 AM
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Women don't have to get pregnant. There is no obligation. And many choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:07 AM
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inb4 "but young guys are struggling" yes and they can turn this around. the % of men who are over 30 and virgin is in single digits. Let's not be so eager to dismiss the consequences of romantic and sexual loneliness through the formative years. Even if some men, or even most men, turn this around and enter a relationship in their thirties, the damage is already done. And in particular, there is no good reason why women should get to experience love and/or sex in their young adulthood, and men s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:04 AM
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And are all women treated like that? Because under almost every single woman's photo or video on social media, there is a massive amount of simping and other women affirming everything about her. There is barely any critique visible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 04:02 PM
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People have even called Margot Robbie or Sydney Sweeney “mid.” I advise you to spend some time to read The Fox and the Grapes from Aesop's Fables. The defence mechanism of rationalising a cognitive dissonance of desiring something and at the same time being unable to get it, has been known as early as 500 BC. People calling such women as mid are non-argument, unless we discuss the mechanics of elementary internet trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 03:20 PM
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'Finding love' or 'finding a partner' is not something that is 100% dependent on the person in question - it takes two to a tango and you cannot act on behalf of the other party, convince them or trick them to fall in love with you (with the theoretical exception of clinical psychopaths). Blue pillers seem to have a recurring difficulty in understanding that failing to find love/partner is not equal to having a character flaw or suffering some personal blame. One can do everything they were supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:13 PM
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Studies do show women do more housework You cannot focus on one such statistic alone, because women also work less hours than men (with and without including overtime). It is a reasonable division of labour if a spouse working shorter hours or working part time, takes a larger share than a spouse working full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:50 PM
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My country is 51.7% women and 48.3% men (2024 data), yet only men have to register for draft and in case of conscription, only men have the obligation to go (with a possibility to call female nurses and psychologists). My country neighbours Ukraine - you can have a look what is happening there. Not only men are conscripted, but also only men are forbidden from leaving the country at all - even civilian men. Meanwhile women can move wherever they want, including a safer country. In addition to sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:13 AM
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In my country military conscription is obligatory only for men. Also, men have to work for five years more to reach retirement age (60 vs 65 y.o.).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:38 AM
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Nope. At this point it should be well known how the algorithms work on the apps - at the very beginning they give you very attractive people to hook you up, and after a week or two it settles with profiles rated roughly comparable to the rating of your profile. So if they complain how apps give them low quality men... it kinda backfires, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:29 AM
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Ever wondered why the app algorithms may be giving you so many low quality men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:01 PM
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It's a slow process and desired results are not guaranteed. It takes a lot of mental resilience to continue with the path of dating/relationship-oriented self improvement, in particular if there are no results (yet/at all), in particular for men starting from the bottom. Like for a 30+ kissless virgin, introverted, on the spectrum and below average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:17 PM
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"Society" is everyone, all genders - meanwhile the way OP asked their question implied that only the men are "responsible" for the lack of existence of male body positivity. the message that your body doesn't define you as a person. It's doing its best to keep your organs in and let you enjoy life. That's enough. Shaming messages are just meant to make you miserable enough to spend money, and that's stupid, and you don't have to do it. Well, a man may feel fine about his well below average heigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 12:21 PM
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Society has lower empathy for men, which is a scientific fact. For a body positivity movement to gain any traction, you need a caring and supportive population. Men and male issues lack such support. Men, in general, communicate and behave in a more direct way than women. For a body positivity movement you need some indirect, semi-gaslighting delulu, which men are less likely to exhibit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:05 AM
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While I don't disagree with the first part of your view, I have to point out that you've used the purest form of apex fallacy. If we take a step back and look at the bigger picture (thus abandoning the all women vs apex men mistake you make), it is obvious that believing in a religion means some form of servitude, submissiveness and obedience for every believer. It's yet another incarnation of the "have" vs "have nots" conflict - men in general and women in general are both suffering in the "hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:02 AM
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If most religions place women below men, treat them as less capable or more sinful... then why women are religious at higher rate than men? Women are generally more religious than men, particularly among Christians. Women report praying daily at higher rates than men. Religion is equally or more important to women than men in most countries source Though a change may be coming, younger Gen Z men are possibly more religious than Gen Z women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:28 AM
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The term 'mansplaining' is so arbitrary, hateful, dismissive and used in so much bad faith, that you cannot reasonably expect anyone to be acceptive of this kind of criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:16 PM
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When I tell men that they show strong in-group bias Maybe men are simply more positively biased in general, to everyone? Because men are more tolerant even of the other side than women are of their own. The problem may very well be that not men, but perhaps women are more combative, passively aggressive, backstabbing and negatively biased in general, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:35 AM
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Let's go another step farther - who gave the US the power and the means to instate a president in another country (is this is what happened)? Do you really believe it was given to them collectively by one gender, the male gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 10:44 PM
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You are free to prove that women are trying to become included in the draft, but for some reason have chosen not to provide such information. I guess that is all we needed, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 10:33 PM
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Who made them the government in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:52 PM
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How? When? Where are they trying? In my country they aren't trying at all. If you do claim they are trying to change the draft somewhere, show us where and how their effort is going.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:50 PM
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For the record, I am not from Ukraine, but from another country also with male-only conscription and with relatively similar geopolitical position. All these institutions and offices you list are not subjects, but objects. Tools, if you will. The system is genderless, and its mandate comes from the imperfect democratic elections where all the people can vote, both men and women. While that one policeman may be male, it is irrelevant, as the system that gives him the authority consists and is leg…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:48 PM
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Then why hasn't, say, China invaded Mongolia yet? Mongolia has no strength to form any meaningful opposition to China's potential invasion, not even speaking about a MAD situation. Or on a lowest possible scale, why hasn't my car been stolen or at least vandalised yesterday? I left in on an unguarded parking lot with no cameras. There was no threat of violence at all, because the owner (myself) wasn't even there for the whole day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:35 PM
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So do you concur that in general women are not interested in dismantling the relics of the 'patriarchy' that are beneficial for them? Or perhaps you could point to any non-trivial examples of women advocating to be conscripted as well? Any draft bills, organisations, polls?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:24 PM
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I would like to point out that actors forcing me to join are genderless and impersonal. It's the system - it consists and is supported by both women and men, yes, but the ruling class, the haves etc operate on a level beyond genders. So no, it is not 'men' who are forcing me to join.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:16 PM
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While I neither agree nor disagree with the first part of your view (society defending itself), I do not consider the inability to defend itself a justification for a malicious act of aggression by another actor. Humankind has ascended from animals and has the ability to recognise what is moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:49 PM
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Women have absolutely tried to get rid of the draft or open it to women. I live in a country where only men have to register for draft (roughly an equivalent of US's Selective Service). Our country neighbours Russia and is the target of their hybrid warfare and sabotage. The probability of us being invaded is no longer dismissable, in particular after 24 Feb 2022. There is precisely zero notion among women, progressive and liberal women included, to either eradicate all forms of forced military …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:47 PM
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Well, depends on where you live. The best (saddest) example is Ukraine, where only the men are being drafted, sometimes by force. Even if not (yet) drafted and still civilians, men are prohibited from travelling abroad. It goes without saying that women have no such restrictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:32 PM
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Both genders were harmed by the system, but at the same time both genders were given certain benefits. Women, for example, were not forced to perform military duties. To this day there is a significant cultural belief that women need to be protected. In some cases, there are legal leftovers - in the UK's law a woman cannot rape a man, in my country women can retire five years earlier (60 vs 65). This is why I discard the word 'patriarchy'. It has become a loaded term, used to create a delusional…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 08:40 AM
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What do you think happens with a 'random person online' that posts sexist, anti-male content and argues in bad faith how bad men are? Do you think they stop having these opinions the second the go offline? Soiler alert: no, they simply become less willing to publicly share and discuss their sexist views. But they will still act and also vote in accordance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 08:08 AM
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None of the issues you listed were gender-exclusive, including sexual consent and reproduction, in which men's personal decisions were overwritten by extreme social pressures to make children by having sex. I guess 'made to penetrate' is the adequate expression. Neither were voting rights by the way. Before universal suffrage there were plenty of criteria like age, wealth, property, religion or race, that barred the majority of men from voting. On the other hand, there were places and circumstan…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:56 PM
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If you take an honest look at the history of humanity and societies, the real line of divide becomes obvious fairly quickly. Hint: it is not between genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 03:03 PM
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How about women who hate men? Do you consider them the exception to the getting along fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 03:00 PM
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you blame women for not being mind reader Well, there is a semi-common belief among women themselves that they are the empathetic, intuitive, sensing gender with vastly superior communication skills. You can look around, even here on PPD or reddit in general, to find enough women who think they are mind readers, then miserably fail at mind reading or even at basic cause-effect reasoning and suffer the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 02:54 PM
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I like all of the activities you list, but at the same time I severely dislike the process of going out and travelling (logistics, planning, preparation, packing, driving, waiting for the plane, uncomfortable flight, being stuck in traffic, waiting in line to enter the best ramen shop in town, making sure myself & my clothes look appropriate for the occasion, having to continuously pay for something, dealing with crowds at popular places, dealing with heat, figuring out how to compromise my diet…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:08 PM
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I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that dating is easy for men There is a semi-common delusional belief among women, that for men "the bar is on the floor". I've seen quite a few women here talk about how they know dating is hard for men There is zero real empathy behind these words. It is yet another case of admitting to having the knowledge of starving children in Africa.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:09 PM
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they resent the entire aspect of dating and romance rituals. Shouldn't be a surprise. The burden of performance is shifted way too much to men's side. And there is a huge disproportion between the responsibility men bear in what you call 'dating and romance rituals', and the impact they have on the outcome. Sure, no one owes anyone sex nor a relationship. But neither unreciprocated effort in dating...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:50 PM
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Maybe you can talk with me instead? Because I live in a country where men have to work for 5 years longer until retirement (60 vs 65 y.o.) and military conscription is obligatory only for men, among several other misandrist laws. I listed representative examples here Vast majority of women oppose changes like increasing their own retirement age, or forcing them to register for draft. And women vote at higher rate. So one could say that in my country, women collectively force men to keep working …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 09:15 AM
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At this point I don't believe you are debating in good faith. You may prove me otherwise, though I don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 02:23 PM
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I ask you to revisit my post and reread it. My advice for men is to bother only with relationships where their effort is at the very least matched and reciprocated. The exception may be first 1/2 dates for non-Chad men - at the very beginning they may have to make most of the effort due to old cultural norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 02:13 PM
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Because non-Chads may have to take all the effort for the first 1 or 2 dates (ask, plan, organise, make comfortable, entertain, pay, ask if got home safely...). This is due to outdated and sexist cultural notion that men are the pursuers at the very beginning of a relationship - sadly most people believe it or at least begrudgingly behave like this. Meanwhile Chads need to do barely any effort, women will be happy and excited to ditch cultural norms and be active pursuers. You may have heard the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 02:01 PM
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Yep, Chads are rare. And if you are looking for a definition of Chad - it is a man for whom most of the women would be gladly and of their own volition doing most of the effort in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 01:45 PM
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You're putting lots of effort into the relationship, the woman absorbs the effort, uses it to propel herself in life or just gets bored with you and branchswings. Or you simply get burned out from doing most of the effort and need to tone it down. Then the relationship fails, however, because after so long of being courted like a princess, a more equalised division of effort or a partnership feels like a scam for the woman. From man's POV, if your efforts aren't matched quickly (with the excepti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 01:22 PM
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...unless men's roles are codified in law. I live in a country where retirement age for women is 5 years lower (60 vs 65), also military conscription is obligatory only for men (among several other outdated laws). It is the epitome of men's stereotypical role as protectors and providers. There is precisely zero notion among women to raise their retirement age and make them subjected to conscription, even among those women who consider themselves progressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:58 AM
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OP is mostly right. The process of dating and initial stages of forming a relationship heavily favour men well versed in wooing other people: psychopaths, narcissists, serial flirters, womanizers, those with lots of practice... Most of these traits are mutually exclusive with what it takes to build a healthy, lasting relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:33 AM
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Dating is neither a meritocracy, nor a video game where you grind your stats until you can enter a gated content. Even if one does all the right things you listed, they are not guaranteed the outcome. Hell, for so many people it is not enough to even get a reasonably fair chance at trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:22 AM
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Take a step back to reflect on what the demographics of a sub like r_marriage of r_relationship_advice is. What people do you think spend time in such areas of the internet and comment on strangers' posts? Do you think they are qualified, or able in general, to give honest and unbiased advice? I do have a guilty pleasure of visitting such subs from time to time and looking for upvoted comments that seem absurd to me. The results of checking the poster's comment history never disappoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:33 AM
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It's just a rage-baiting troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:37 PM
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Of those men that want compulsory military service, ~42% want it for men only, with major differences between younger and older cohorts. And it perfectly fits the common truth that those not forced to put their lives at stake (women are among them), are perfectly fine with taking away bodily autonomy of those, who have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:06 PM
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https://ocdn.eu/pulscms-transforms/1/xsbk9kuTURBXy8wZTJmZmEzNS05NDVlLTQxOTktYjQ1NS01YmFiMjUyYmQ1NWYuanBlZ5KVAs0DFADCw5UCAM0C-MLD3gABoTAF Upper pie chart - for every 4 women that want compulsory military service, 3 want it only for men. That's a 75% rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:39 PM
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bodily autonomy In my country, military conscription is obligatory only for men. According to polls, vast majority of women want to keep it this way. There probably isn't a better (worst) example of taking away bodily autonomy, than making someone become literal cannon fodder.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:08 PM
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It's yet another incarnation of the Apex Fallacy, only in reverse - the Nadir Fallacy. This time they do not look at CEOs/Board of Directors % gender ratio to convince themselves that women are discriminated. This time they take the severely disturbed, mass murderers and a single case of a worthless in its mediocrity TikTok experiment as a proof that men just need to do this little to solve all the problems in dating. I kinda miss the good old times when people put any effort in the art of troll…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:29 PM
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“women don’t understand how hard it is for guys and how guys will get zero matches”. Well, people looked into what are one [of] those guys who have zero matches. So you have an astonishing n = 1 sample size and thought it is enough evidence to troll with a rage-baiting post... and you were actually right. In fact, you can post troll content without any evidence behind it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:31 PM
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Judging by what the OP claims in their post, you lost not one, but at least a dozen of potential issues. If you do share their point of view (do you?), you could consider your hysterectomy a net gain in the area of 'common' biological issues - but I do not believe you see it this way and neither do I.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:23 PM
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> Doctors in general do not take womens pain seriously. And in most cases, doctors are more often female then male. Perhaps the empathy women have for other women is much lower than we all believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:31 PM
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Simplifying the issue with 'hyperagency vs hypoagency' argument and calling it a day won't help a bit. We could start with a cultural shift to stop seeing male vulnerability as a character flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:25 PM
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statistically more women have depression ...are diagnosed with depression/take medication. There is a growing notion in the mental health community that depression in men manifests somewhat differently to depression in women and current diagnostic model works better for diagnosing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:14 PM
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Somewhat depending on country, but usually there is more female than male doctors, in particular in OB-GYN field: 63% in the UK, 62% in the US. Do you agree that it looks like female doctors do not take pain in women seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:06 PM
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None of the issues you list can be called 'common', even pregnancy isn't 'common' anymore. In my country, 40% women will remain childless in their lives. And some of the issues (like placenta accreta) have <0.5% occurrence, so using them as an example is manipulative at best. But I'll bite. If a woman has her reproductive organs surgically removed due to legitimate medical reasons, do you concur that she looses the 'biological disadvantage' you claim she has?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:58 PM
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Last time, we had 6000+ candidates competing for 460 seats. There were plenty of female politicians to choose from, if women really cared about equally gendered representation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:54 PM
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Yet we have a solid streak of women voting at higher rates than men. I reckon it is the same in the US. So while the majority of political roles may be filled by men, female voters bear more responsibility for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:17 PM
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I am all for updating the laws, making them fair and adequate for the changing reality. But those wanting to equalise the retirement age or make the draft gender neutral will always be a minority. What is particularly sad, is the hypocrisy of young, progressive, leftist women talking about equality and demanding new laws in their interest, but refusing to give up certain outdated, now baseless privileges they still happen to have. Young men by large lack a political representation that works for…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:12 PM
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After 1989, 3 female prime ministers and around 15 male. What is funny, one of the male prime ministers in 2013 actually made the retirement age equal for men and women and set it to 67. However, a conservative-social-populist party that won the next election (massively voted for by women), in 2017 changed the age back to 60/65.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:39 PM
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Not really, my country is amongst those with the lowest fertility levels in the world (1.10 for 2024, 1.03 estimated for 2025) - lower than Japan and barely better than war-ravaged Ukraine. There are so few babies popping out, that the grandmas have barely any grandkids to look after (if we agree that this stereotype is mostly true). And even if they do, the grandkids live in another part of the country, as we undergo a massive internal migration of working age people to few biggest cities, in p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:29 PM
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Poland.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:50 AM
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Then do you agree that male physical workers should earn more than female physical workers - since they do more work (lift more weight)? Judging by the limits, should they earn 2.5x more?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:50 AM
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In-country feminists respond mostly with gaslighting and deflection, typically with unprovable and/or unmeasureable claims. Sometimes plain negation. For example, they point out that in addition to 100% of men, a minimal amount of women has to register for draft as well (nurses, psychologists) and thus it makes the whole point invalid. Or say that the compulsory military service has been temporarily suspended (note - not cancelled, only suspended). Or start explaining how draft will never be nec…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:07 AM
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In my country, there are several laws that make women lives' easier. Women are exempt from military draft. Retirement age is 60 for women, 65 for men. If a woman decides to work past retirement age, she will not pay income tax. If a woman goes to prison, she will go to a lighter prison by default. A man has to act with good behaviour to request such transfer. In addition, imprisoned men are allowed only one hot shower a week, while women are guaranteed two hot showers and daily hot water allowan…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:00 PM
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Cultural differences - around half of the activities you have listed simply does not take place in the country I live in (former Soviet satellite in Central Europe). People are reserved, wary of strangers and generally prefer the company of people they already know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:45 AM
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If I were 6ft tall, perhaps my mental health wouldn't suffer this much to begin with? The snowball effect is real and the rich get richer and poor get poorer. Just like the social, attractive and likeable people typically get more likeable, the unattractive, socially neglected loners and outcasts rarely break the ceiling that keeps them down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:44 PM
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Today I am mostly fine with my mental health. What would help me most at my lowest would be a life & lifestyle coach and friend-for-hire figure. Providing direct and pragmatic advice, and also introducing me to activities and directly guiding me through them - from casual and party life socialising, to relationship activities. A guardian angel if you will. To the best of my knowledge such profession does not exist (yet).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:29 PM
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This is how good therapy looks like Where I live, psychotherapist is an unregulated profession. It means, among other things, that there is no real control on the quality of their work, the results they have, the therapies successfully concluded. I did things that in minutes helped me and my mental health more than those ~two years of CBT. And for almost a year I have been in a happy relationship with a beautiful woman that is actually 5-6 cm higher than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:23 PM
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Actually, I do. Roughly two years of CBT and attempts at CBT. And I had tasks and lists too, hated them though. They felt patronising, akin to making a child eat the brussels sprout by coaxing them to take a little bite first. They simply disregarded the essences of my issues, blurred them and moved the focus somewhere else. Also, those tasks and lists encourage bad practices from therapists. I had 30-35 minutes of a fully paid 50 minute session spent on describing how a spreadsheet works (two o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:18 PM
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CBT is talk therapy and it fails, and fails hard, when the source of one's problems is external, multi-faceted and tangible. Think systemic poverty, systemic loneliness, life-long abuse, workplace mobbing. There are no cognitive distortions here, no irrational thoughts, my perception isn't wrong. Such things happen, they are real and they severely decrease life quality. Their essence is mostly external and my influence on them is partial and indirect at best and non-existent at worst. Best CBT c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:36 PM
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The confidence you get from getting fit is from working hard, failing, pushing THROUGH failure, overcoming, seeing the incremental improvements and achieving a difficult goal. As someone who has lost ~40% of his bodyweight and later worked hard to be able to deadlift ~350% of the new bodyweight for a few reps... ...getting fit only made me bitter, the achievement is mostly meaningless, no one cares about it and it makes not a single difference even for me. Like, what is the point of deadlifting …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:30 AM
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I would argue that they develop at least SOME social skills - simply due to frequent interactions with women, from conversations, parties all the way to casual sex relationships. Socially-wise, at least they are in a better place than the typical autistic loners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:15 AM
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job as a software developer If you don't mind me asking... how much time do you spend working? I ask because I also work in the IT. My hours are 40h/week with no overtime ever and permanent WFH, yet between that, the things I have to do (chores, shopping, bills...) and the things I want to do because reasons (physical activity, body grooming, etc), I find myself spread surprisingly thin. Neither my work nor other activities are particularly stressful or time-consuming, but I am constantly semi-s…
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