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Often mentioned advice that is good to take is "don't put her on a pedestal." There is sooo much room between being too nice and being a misogynist asshole. My point earlier was to highlight the reasoning for the perceived dynamic of the misogynist rude-boys always getting the girls and the genuine nice guys falling flat. Your point stands too. Please, OP, don't become a misogynist asshole! Human life is much more nuanced than simplistic binary thinking.
/r/seduction31/01/26 10:00 PM
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That brings up the important point that men and women really don't think alike in any culture. For instance, the ladies are really attracted to being found "pretty" by girls and guys alike. In fact there is a very conscious, though not directly spoken about, hierarchy among the ladies about whom in a room is "prettier". The "prettier" they feel they are the more social power they feel they possess. ANd though it is foolish, Most people behave this way. If everyone behaves in a way that confirms …
/r/seduction31/01/26 09:11 PM
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"our brains evolved for a world we no longer live in". This statement hits right at the core of this issue. This world of ours is out of anyone's control: The revolutions of social media, information, AI, the "Internet", globalization, and the threat of nuclear annihilation and a few others I'm sure; Are changing the ways we live, interact, and procreate in ways we barely understand. There is little we, as individuals, can really do about it but try to ride the wave. Or duck under.
/r/MensRights24/12/24 01:28 AM
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"Learn to be comfortable with being uncomfortable" nails it. Eventually (it's a numbers game, as it often repeated) connections happen; if you persist.
/r/seduction14/12/24 05:21 AM
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life is a game. You're playing "I want to chat up/meet some cute girls" game. You think they are playing "I want to chat up/meet some cute guys" but many of them are playing "let's see how much attention I can get." Please take into account that by most measures, attractive girls are inundated by guys seeking their attention, especially on dating sites. You are probably just one of the 10s or even 100s that are trying them. they simply don't have the time.
/r/seduction17/11/24 12:25 AM
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Empathy and sympathy are underrated qualities for people. But, living on this space orb for a few decades has taught me that people who mock other people's suffering are probably suffering themselves in a very painful and personal way they probably are not conscious of. What is needed is a mirror of sorts we could turn and reflect back with so that folks can actually visualize their own behaviours more clearly. Allegories, conversations, and time alone to reflect - for those willing.
/r/MensRights16/12/23 10:51 AM
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I agree with you there. I kinda miss that subreddit for the clarity of thought that could be found at times. I got good at ignoring the hateful comments knowing that most of those were sprung from frustration and anger at relationships gone bad.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 02:50 AM
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Feel them, roll them in your fingers then set them down on the grounds and walk away. Our ability to say "no" to ourselves is probably the greatest way to gain self control.
/r/MGTOW26/02/21 04:38 AM
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Well, your in the right place. Most people who dwell here (this subreddit) have either learned to enjoy their own company or are on their way to get there. I understand your longing for a special someone to share your life with and I do hope you find happiness and peace. The main point of MGTOW, that you will find, is that "romantic" relationships aren't for everyone. If anything, it is a form of temporary insanity evolution has stumbled upon to keep the human genome going. There is a strong bui…
/r/MGTOW226/12/20 03:16 PM
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Your words reveal a certain sensitivity that probably makes you more vulnerable to anguish than a typical person, so I empathize with you there. But giving up is a bit childish. I know it is a bit trite but it often said that depression, in a way, is when your version of reality doesn't match the reality that you experience. - Your brain is confused, your heart feels lost. As a few commenter have mentioned here, it seems you have a talent for writing. That is a gift. A gift you could develop to …
/r/MGTOW214/12/20 12:42 PM
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difficult experiences in life should be seen as heavy weights one must lift to feel the true heft of existence. The first few times will likely startle or even shock someone at just how heavy they can be. But as you grow through the years the shock wears off and you realize that it is those difficult experience that has made you stronger. SOmeone who has lived on easy-street all their life will never know what strength, resilience, or fortitude really is....they would just know them by name.
/r/MGTOW214/12/20 12:33 PM
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I would upvote your comment twice if I could.
/r/MGTOW208/12/20 10:46 AM
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you guys with the fear mongering, fucking grow up. Change will be coming so adapt. The writing has been on the wall for decades: Oil will not last forever and it harms our environment....so we have to depend on it less. Instead, learn a new trade in energy: solar, wind, hydro, nuclear... ANd what's with the "they're gonna take your guns!?" - Bullshit! The politicos have been saying that for half a century and yet, here we are, up to our noses is guns and ammo.
/r/MGTOW07/11/20 12:50 AM
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It can be fun to fool others and see how they react to their own assumptions but really, in time, you stop caring so much. ya got shit to do...
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 12:43 AM
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wrong sub people. I go my own way. I don't go Trump's way. fuck off with that shit.
/r/MGTOW225/10/20 01:52 AM
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please sir, lighten up a bit...There is a dark side to life that can feel utterly empty, painful, unfair etc... Some people are distracted enough /stupid enough so they don't notice it too much. lucky them. But there is a lot to get excited about too: I get turned on by music, nature, moving fast, even watching children laugh and play makes me smile. Your post sounds a bit like the rage experienced by many of us when we realize the truth that our lives are not like the movies: We don't always wi…
/r/MGTOW217/08/20 12:47 AM
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It is awesome. I have hobbies I really enjoy and lo' and behold - I love my own company!
/r/MGTOW227/07/20 12:32 AM
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Just have a "heart to heart" with her and say that you are gay. I don't know if that flies in Bulgaria tho. Or say that you are already in a relationship. Keep it friendly but distant.
/r/askTRP24/05/20 10:46 AM
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I like the post and comments here. I'm thinking that external validation is desired because it shows others that you can/should/could be desired to be around - which leads others to perceive you in a way that that can be be boiled down to "attraction." : More folks want to get to know you, be around you because the see that other people do so something must be desirable there. Not all attention is wanted, however. Sometimes the people that have an interest in you are not the people you want to i…
/r/MGTOW206/05/20 12:39 PM
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oh boy there is alot to digest here. thanks for posting.
/r/MGTOW221/04/20 12:45 PM
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I agree with you but I also believe that to constantly struggle for "improvement" can be exhausting and may not always provide what one one may think it will. If improving yourself is part of your way than we all hope you do it and cheer you on. But if you just want to take a week/month/year off and enjoy yourself that's cool too. I have beef with the quote on other grounds: Mainly, if everyone in the world was always IDGaF about anyone/anything then the world would suck 1000 times over. I don't…
/r/MGTOW217/04/20 03:59 AM
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I'll drink to that
/r/MGTOW221/03/20 03:22 AM
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we're proud on you for standing back up, dusting yourself off, and moving along again. That's the way to do it!
/r/MGTOW207/03/20 11:31 PM
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It never too late to turn back around. Good luck to you
/r/MGTOW207/03/20 05:10 PM
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I used to "run out for a few things" to escape from the chatter
/r/MGTOW207/03/20 04:58 PM
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I know...but it "feels" like Sunday Morning. Or it did. Now I got things to do. My things.
/r/MGTOW207/03/20 04:57 PM
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Whenever I am on the hunt for sex I don't feel like myself. I put on a personality that will get what I want to achieve: More outgoing, positive, lot's of bullshit so the ladies hear what they want to hear. I am expected to one-up other dudes in some implicit show of dominance. Can't stand assholes so I hate when I am one myself. I am so focused on the goal I don't care what I say or do. Normally, I like to be a genuine person and I like when people are genuine with me. But being genuine, for me…
/r/MGTOW207/03/20 02:27 PM
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Good points. "freedom" is the key word here. Freedom from the need to fill expectations of others. Freedom form your own hormones trying to tell you what to do. Freedom from influence of people you would have nothing to do with if they didn't have sexual gravity, and freedom from the possibility of contracting STDs or incurring unwanted pregnancies. Most people have sex to scratch an itch. I know I have. Growing up is, in part, acknowledging the inch, examining it, assessing it but not itching i…
/r/MGTOW207/03/20 02:04 PM
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I'll toast to that
/r/MGTOW203/03/20 02:24 AM
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He's not wrong. I am so happy when this kind of thing gets talked about openly. I also enjoy the interviewers squirm as they mentally process the presented arguments and realize how true - and unpopular -this information is.
/r/MGTOW202/03/20 01:16 PM
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for the sake of peace and happiness.
/r/MGTOW202/03/20 03:19 AM
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Well, it's been pointed out before. Men have more to lose in a divorce and woman have more to gain. It's the current state of laws and society: Most guys fall into a provider role in a marriage meaning they see it as their duty to work/toil/sacrifice to bring the $$ home to pay the bills and make a comfortable life for the family. He knows if they ever split up he will lose a lot (~half) of that hard earned security to his ex and that hurts and sucks...especially if she didn't pull her weight du…
/r/MGTOW216/02/20 03:27 PM
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that's hard to see anywhere. I guess it's a bit of a rut that people fall into and then stagnate.
/r/MGTOW226/01/20 12:03 PM
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It seems they have been going through cultural upheaval since the second world war. I am not a particularly interested in Japan but they do have a unique and fascinating culture there.
/r/MGTOW226/01/20 12:03 AM
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Well, I am sharing something I found interesting with a community where some others might find it interesting too, that's what. Interesting because it is one of the least likely places to find MGTOW or WGTOW. And it interesting to see how and why other people walk this path.
/r/MGTOW225/01/20 11:59 PM
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Hop on the bus, Gus
/r/MGTOW214/12/19 02:49 PM
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History lesson: there used to be a subreddit titled "incel" (involuntary celibate) that was banned because of the high level of hatred displayed there. I joined reddit just when this happened and was a subscriber to the MGTOW subreddit at the time. It seems like everyone that posted or commented in the "incel" subreddit moved over to MGTOW. Haters gonna hate, I guess. To be honest there is a lot in life to complain about for some people...it's just cringy and disappointing to see the blind hatre…
/r/MGTOW209/12/19 01:12 PM
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I concur. Why stop at one!? You could have many! As much as some things in our/your world really sucks there is plenty of good stuff to get excited about. You choose.
/r/MGTOW224/11/19 09:52 PM
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Sounds like a simple case of unrelatability: You are outgrowing your friends - very common around your age. Unless your desire to fit into the group is greater than your desire to be free from it then most people choose to go their own way - maybe to find another group or maybe just to fly free for awhile. There is a trap here, though. And that is if you work hard on yourself and take things even one notch more seriously than others then your perception of [most] others will be that they lack am…
/r/MGTOW224/10/19 11:01 AM
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word
/r/MGTOW219/10/19 05:13 PM
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Well good on ya for doing your own thing. In my brief time living in a van i really enjoyed it. I was mobile yet secure (enough, anyway). I was never so "free" in my life before or after. Maybe i aught to watch more van maintenance videos ...hmmm...
/r/MGTOW207/10/19 11:14 PM
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Well, that's one way to go...if you want to go your own way. I was a bit surprised to see females amongst them for some reason. It pleases me that some woman can and do choose to go their own way. It makes me wonder if the many ills of modern society, and not just the opposite sex, are mostly to blame for the growing number of us who try to follow their own paths and reject the wrote ones that often lead to despair and dissatisfaction. As I get older I fantasize more and more about becoming at l…
/r/MGTOW206/10/19 08:18 PM
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I'm left of center politically. Equal rights, power to the people, social justice and so on. I identify as a MGHOW. I have grown as a person learning and listening to others here. But I don't don't agree with some tenants. I think a lot of us blame the ladies for all their ill fortunes but most men are far from perfect themselves and, like anyone would, have a hard time confronting our own issues whether we are born with them or whether they have been built up throughout our lives. I take everyt…
/r/MGTOW209/09/19 11:23 AM
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group-think is a thing. (Some of) Those admins at MGTOW don't see how they mirror the very things they critique about others: i.e. "snowflakes". Shouldn't men, or anyone, who go "there own way" have varied opinions? geez. Those admins can't handle anything that doesn't fit into the narrative that all women are shallow, hypergamous, vapid children - and all men who are in any sort of relationship is a blue-pilled simp who destined to get divorce-raped. Only the Sith deal in absolutes....
/r/MGTOW227/08/19 11:10 AM
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I agree with you strategy. My son is a 13 y.o. atheist going to a catholic school. It is obvious he is not a catholic (he isn't the only student who is non-catholic). I advise him, if asked what his stance is any particular religious topic is, is to say some variation of "it's complicated." That is my go-to answer for just about anything that I don't want to discuss for whatever reason.
/r/MGTOW224/08/19 04:20 AM
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another hard truth would be that she know she is losing her son to the world. every parent with grown children deals with this in their own way but a lot of it has to do with their state-of-being at the time. Is she jealous you have your whole life ahead of you? Does she feel judged by others if her life or the life of her family members aren't fitting a certain mould? Is she so narcissistic that her love for you only goes as far as her personal opinion of you? This is one reason why going you o…
/r/MGTOW212/08/19 10:42 AM
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It seems everyone else on this discussion agrees with OP (solitude cab be addicting) but your take is different. Not that you should follow the crowd but, Why?
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 12:14 AM
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My contribution here: Examine those small things you would normally not notice when you are otherwise busy. Take care of/play with a pet. Watch videos of comedians you like. Go out to a pub for a drink and to gab. call a friend or a family member and see how they're doing. Listen too or play music. Work on/get excited about a hobby of yours. get on an internet forum and BS for awhile - check exercise - check read - check Loneliness is nature's way to force us to interact with each other...ultima…
/r/MGTOW228/07/19 05:22 PM
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I going to agree with you on that and add that, having stepped back and to the side like most MGTOW men, It is clear that there is a programming in our societies and this programming doesn't like or trust "free-radicals." They are dangerous to and react negatively with this programing. At best, we mumble amongst ourselves not to talk about MGTOW with the greater population as to avoid being unfairly rejected by most people that we deal with. Though, to be real, MGTOW is more known than ever so t…
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 11:58 PM
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Alls well by me: There are way too many people out here anyhow. It's the root of almost all of our problems.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/19 11:23 PM
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I feel like the process is like becoming a monk of some sort: There is a certain clarity of vision when you accept a path for your life. In my journey I feel a bit sad that I haven't "bonded" with someone, as I feel I would make a great partner, but I have seen enough relationships to know that most of it is bullshit and fraught with peril. I have come to accept the fact that I am, and would be, much happier doing what I love doing in life without the head games, without the financial drain, wit…
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 01:10 PM
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To each their own in their own time. (almost) No one likes being forced or even pressured into a mold. And we may be distantly related to apes but we aren't apes.
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 12:27 AM
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To be fair; Woman/girls have always looked for resources, security, and excitement (to at least match their levels) from the men in their lives - even before modern day feminism came along. I think what most dudes don't like are the injustices favoring women that have made their way into our social fabric - particularly when it comes to legal matters such as divorce or false rape claims.
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 06:16 PM
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Just to reply to the post: When you 15 - 16 years old so where the girls. You witnessed the shallow side of teenage girls. I know many would say older woman would be the same but woman look for different "partners" at different points in their life. But this is the MGTOW sub so I will shut up now.
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 11:38 AM
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You will eventually find that you have more time to do anything you want. You will likely have more money to spend or save as you please. Your self respect will be strengthened as will your clarity of vision. There is pain and discomfort in any separation but as others have said grief is part of the process. On the other side, when you land and stand up again, you have your life back, on your terms.
/r/MGTOW220/07/19 12:05 PM
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This will pass!
/r/MGTOW220/07/19 12:01 PM
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I get where you are coming from. You feel you have so much to offer to someone if only you were to find the right person - a perfect partner. I felt the same way and probably still have my radar up for that perfect connection but my four decades on this planet has shown to me that I am a fool for thinking this way so innocently. I am tired of being a fool. Reality is hard to swallow. That is the red-pill. Pushing aside the curtain, the clouds, the wishful thinking, the lies, the bullshit. I feel…
/r/MGTOW219/07/19 02:47 AM
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It could be any number of things and each should be examined: 1) "catch and release" . Most folks like the thrill of the chase: the mystery, the seduction, the win. But after that they get bored and seek it again elsewhere. Sometimes simultaneously with other paramours. It makes us feel good to be wanted but if there is no deeper attraction then they will likely just move on. Lesson: continuously educate yourself in the art of seduction. Detach your ego from the process and try different things …
/r/seduction14/07/19 01:20 PM
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I made a reply before but I just realized I didn't really answer the question. I advise him he is wise to be careful with whom he associated with. And not to give in to peer pressure to get laid so fast. He doesn't hate girls specifically though he sees how some of them are downright awful and how others can be annoying. He hasn't told me of any he has his eyes on so I don't think the hormones have kicked on fully. He sees how people are mixed bags of characteristics and experiences so he keeps …
/r/MGTOW212/06/19 12:53 AM
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My son is 13 and he very much believes he is going his own way in life. He's on the smart/nerdy side. He has focused hobbies. Has no problem holding conversations with adults. He identifies closely with the character "the dude" from the movie the Big lebowski. Just wants to chill out and be himself. I ask him about girls but he isn't impressed by anyone he knows. I wouldn't say he is an incel if an "incel" is someone who belittles woman as a default setting. Or is that a neck-beard? I don't know…
/r/MGTOW212/06/19 12:45 AM
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There is strength in boldness.
/r/MGTOW229/05/19 10:57 AM
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If it's just to get laid then... bulshit. A lot of bullshit. Talking bullshit... Surprisingly, most girls aren't attracted to genuine, intelligent, happy dudes. Good hobbies or not. To be honest, they are too intimidating by them. Good boys are too much work. Most girls are too afraid of any real emotional connection with someone until they are mature enough to handle it. Even if it's just to avoid breaking their hearts because they know, and are somewhat ashamed, that what they are really drawn…
/r/seduction09/05/19 03:08 PM
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how would you describe a very feminine core?
/r/seduction09/05/19 01:09 PM
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"trademark" meaning, I suppose, that "Real Men" is a made up idea that some woman try to sell to convince the men they want to control to act a certain way; REAL MEN wouldn't act that way!
/r/MGTOW30/04/19 10:53 AM
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I like how raw this post is. Sometimes I feel like we are just a bunch of big-brained apes in deep way over our head with our overly sophisticated society that is being built on bullshit. layer upon layer. If you have a moment of clarity you want to smack the world upside the head with it and wake it the fuck up...but it can smack you back so be careful!
/r/MGTOW218/04/19 02:34 AM
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She knows she's got you if she wants you. It sounds as if, atm, she may be playing the field. no harm no fowl - that's how the game is played. Don't read too far into it. My suggestion is to unclick whatever spell you're under with this girl and move on: date around, go out on the town, continue as you see fit. If you see her be friendly but keep some distance. If she wants to approach you, well then let her...or not. It's a game. have some fun.
/r/seduction16/04/19 01:49 AM
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I would hazard to say this phenomenon is natural; meaning it isn't an aberration to our society or even in the animal world. While it isn't as simple as saying someone is alpha or beta but the fact remains some of us are born with whatever it is (at the moment) that attracts the opposite sex. Comeliness, money, "high social value", big boobs, rockin' abs, and so on. With attraction comes power: the ability to manipulate others. So, naturally, the more attractive one is the more "power" he or she…
/r/seduction16/04/19 01:18 AM
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This guy goes his own way.
/r/MGTOW213/04/19 10:22 AM
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Our current form of MGTOW is certainly fueled but the current development of our internet-based social networks. The rules have changed and most of us are unprepared for it. Here, in this sub, I see a lot of panic and disgust but I also see a lot of sense and ...pause: "like WTF is going on?" - "has marriage become impossible?" - "Did my ex really do me dirty for that long?" - "Are all woman like that?" And as much as we wish the answers were as easy as AWALT, it gets more complicated than that.…
/r/MGTOW207/04/19 05:00 AM
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Woman are more socially adept because they have to be. That's how they can achieve their ambitions. Men typically win by a different strategy (force, intense focus) but we have our share of beguilers too. It is probably fair to say that it would be folly not to develop enough social skills to at least defend yourself from manipulation and not everyone does or can. Even the manliest men have weaknesses. But this is all theoretical...just a topic to discuss. What the take-away should be is "don't …
/r/MGTOW207/04/19 04:48 AM
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We're all shoulders deep in an ongoing social revolution - for better or for worse. When roles were accepted and counted on things were a bit easier; but they also weren't. More freedom = more confusion = less stability. I am happy that that woman are freer to live the live they want but there is a cost and men, woman and society in general, is paying for it. No one likes being cock-blocked but, to be honest, there are too many people in this world and we need to slow the baby-making the fuck do…
/r/MGTOW06/04/19 05:02 PM
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It's for the best. we need to slow down the baby-making a bit.
/r/MGTOW206/04/19 03:46 PM
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foot loose and fancy free, that's the only way to be, so you might as well take your pleasure as you find it...
/r/TheRedPill22/03/19 12:18 PM
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Thanks for sharing your bio. It;s a;ways good to hear how other dudes have been living and surviving in the modern world. It helps us measure our own lives, in a way. We get a lot of whining/ranting in this sub reddit but there is a lot to whine and rant about so it's fair enough.
/r/MGTOW203/03/19 10:39 PM
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I think what you're trying to say is that you want friends, not just short-term girlfriends, i.e. flings. There is only one way to do this. In order to have friends you need to be friendly. Not just faking it either: Real friendly people do this: Look others in the eye and acknowledge their existence. Start conversations. Make others feel better about themselves. Hold conversations. Make others feel like they matter. Be honest/ but not harsh. Make others laugh. I now this is not always easy. Thi…
/r/seduction20/02/19 02:02 PM
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It's like you're breaking a spell. All of a sudden the charms that have been used for thousands of years have been silenced. Like a siren singing to a deaf man. While you may get to like this new existence it does have it perils: loneliness (at times), less social interaction may make you acutely introspective, and it may be more peaceful but it probably less "fun" in the long run. All good though. You have sidestepped social norms/expectations enough to see that most of it is BS.
/r/seduction20/02/19 01:33 PM
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I would argue that that's how we evolved (psychologically) to form the societies we have today. Dare I say it is part of the human condition. It's been like this for a very long time - we are just more aware of it now: Each man desired for his usefulness. Whether it is his labor, his money, the entertainment he provides, the services he does, the protection he offers, his willingness to sacrifice himself for the group. It might be different when you're a child - at least it felt different to me.…
/r/MGTOW201/02/19 11:42 AM
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Some relationships could lead to fuller life but most are humdrum and some are toxic. The most important relationship is the one you have with yourself, of course. Step carefully folks.
/r/MGTOW230/01/19 01:45 AM
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reminds me of a quote from the late Robin Williams: "I used to think the worst thing in life was to end up alone. It's not. The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel alone" Some crazy/sad shit must have happened to that man to make him come to this realization.
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 03:49 PM
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"It’s the same reason I stay away from bears and wasps nests. I recognize danger and stay away from it." Sad but true.
/r/MGTOW07/01/19 09:41 PM
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The trees don't complain, the boulders never irritate me, the grass is always welcoming, the birds never try to sell me anything...
/r/MGTOW07/01/19 06:05 AM
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I like the messages of self-discipline and self-betterment. So many others that Post to MGTOW focus so much on hating woman that it distracts from what the true message of MGTOW should be: Learning to be comfortable in your own skin.
/r/MGTOW05/01/19 10:46 PM
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This is the Afterglow. A darkness removed to allow new light in. enjoy it!
/r/MGTOW02/01/19 05:24 PM
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well, it gets my approval!
/r/MGTOW01/01/19 06:49 PM
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Yes, Cringing hard every time I see the words "Libtards" and "feminazis"...Men, don't let fear dictate your life choices. Don't let hate cloud your vision.
/r/MGTOW30/12/18 11:25 PM
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That's why someone created WGTOW2: And why we are all here reading, commenting, posting... Some prescribing to MGTOW are hard, or extreme, in their thinking and can't handle a conversation outside their wheelhouse. Happens a lot of places, not just MGTOW. ANd reddit is ripe for group-think cliques: Some mod doesn't like you? banned. Write something that may not jibe with the majority in the sub? Get down-voted to oblivion. I love reddit. I love that ideas can be shared so easily. But conversatio…
/r/MGTOW227/12/18 05:27 PM
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I don't think she was good wifey material. MGTOW
/r/MGTOW24/12/18 12:05 PM
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We love those brave souls that will risk everything for a cause they believe in.
/r/MGTOW24/12/18 12:30 AM
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UM, Gandi...Martin Luther King...Nelson MFing Mandela are all examples of peaceful resistance that worked in ways people didn't expect. But, I must concede there must be many more attempts than successes.
/r/MGTOW24/12/18 12:28 AM
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True that. I want fellow men to be aware of this too. And that we, as men, have our own "nature" to deal with. I wish all to recognize their innate drives so that they can learn to deal with them and become better people - rather just woman haters. Maybe one reason men can bond so well is because sex is simply not a factor at all (for most of us). And sadly, why I care so much, is that men are treated like shit by default in our society and that's not cool.
/r/MGTOW23/12/18 07:28 PM
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For sure, and a confidence not widely seen.
/r/MGTOW23/12/18 03:03 PM
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Since I was young I have appreciated the Tao though my understanding of it continuously changes. I have to admit I am a lightweight when it comes to truly being a practitioner: I would have to give up the rest of my life to go full-in and I am not prepared to do that....I guess I will go my own way. I haven't read Osho's book but now that I am aware of it I will check it out. Thanks
/r/MGTOW23/12/18 03:00 PM
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And a happy Christmas to you! We might not all always agree but one good thing about (real) men is that we can share intelectual ideas without emotional baggage.
/r/MGTOW23/12/18 02:53 PM
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I know that these are popular opinions in MGTOW but this is not true in my experience. I can concede that there are many woman who find the best way to climb up the social ladder is to use that one thing that men have the hardest time resisting: sex. The more beautiful the woman the more powerful the allure. Nature built us that way. It is no wonder to me why an ambitious woman would use of her appearance and beauty, if she possessed them, to better herself. I can admit to myself that I can be s…
/r/MGTOW23/12/18 02:45 PM
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Vandriver1 in right: You are not as dumb or worthless as you think: You have self awareness, you have humility, you have you have a desire to better yourself, you are open to learn from others... Men (and woman) must learn to navigate in this strange new world of social media, mass media, over-population, sexual liberation, and information overload. Social dynamics are complex, full of pitfalls, and are maddening especially when you trying to figure it out! Truly dumb fucks just stumble along wi…
/r/MGTOW223/12/18 02:35 AM
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I appreciate Merton and others who went full-monk-mode and devoted their lives to understanding human nature. These philosophers have a wealth of understanding free from the negative and caustic reactions that many have when they approach the subject.
/r/MGTOW23/12/18 02:14 AM
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Well said! I have always leaned toward Taoist philosophy and I appreciate other writer's take on the ideas presented by Chuang Tzu. As I grow older and [hopefully] wiser I see how much of the MGTOW philosophy mirrors Taoism. it different though: I feel free from the disdain for woman that many dudes that prosthelytize MGTOW have. Sure, many woman are selfish and arrogant but so are many men. I feel each of the sexes socially maneuvers in their own way as dictated by their biological and cultural…
/r/MGTOW23/12/18 02:11 AM
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I hear ya, OP. Some of the content is wincable. I cringe at the posts with all fem-hate themes but, I guess, a lot of guys are busted up over a relationship that went sour or a realization that the world isn't what they hoped it to be. Classic turn from Blue to Red, to oversimplify it. It is a part of the process for some. What I will probably get downvoted for is saying that Men can be super shitty in their own way and sometimes fail to see how their own behavior leads to at least some of the p…
/r/MGTOW18/12/18 01:44 PM
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It seems the only way to salvage things in our society is to address the alimony and child support statutes so that (real) men aren't afraid to marry and procreate...other wise the only one's willing to do it will be the fools...which will begat more fools. I am not suggesting changes that are unfair toward woman but they must be fair for the men. No man, in his right mind, would walk willingly into marriage if he were know what the other end really looks like.
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 12:47 PM
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princess mentality. Thanks, Disney
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 12:39 PM
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lets not forget those men who will fuck anything, just for a lay, and have a kid with some woman who he then decides he doesn't want to bother with only to do it over and over again with little care about child rearing or support> This exponential mess is then thrown onto our societal safety nets to figure out with predictable results on the whole. It;s not looking good.
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 12:36 PM
1

Sometimes the truth hurts...but it hurts a lot less than being divorce raped.
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 11:32 AM
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We're surrounded by billions. I certain amount of grace and humility is needed in this world or one would implode/explode. Each of us (yes you...and me) have personal, inherently narrow, views which certainly influences how we might behave consciously or unconsciously. One part of accepting ourselves is witnessing how we (historically) act on this world and how we fit into. I hope I don't come across as too didactic. My point is just to state my disagreement with the Quote posted by OP.
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 03:16 AM
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Accept yourself and demand better. Truly the best place lies somewhere in the middle. Intolerance, in its extreme, is toxic, but I can concede that tolerance in its extreme can be toxic as well.
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 03:06 AM
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Sorry, I thought MGTOW was about rejecting the cultural norms that tie a man to a woman, or the state, or anyone. I don't agree with the message of intolerance. How the fuck does that fix anything? Accept yourself and move through life with dignity. By being intolerant of others you enslave yourself to your personal views of what should be. To be free means you don't care. Let other do as they wish...isn't that what you want for yourself?
/r/MGTOW09/12/18 11:55 PM
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Just listened to it you tube . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvC9V_lBnDQ
/r/MGTOW08/12/18 04:29 AM
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good bot
/r/MGTOW08/12/18 04:24 AM
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Everyone likes to be respected. And she was an amazing performer, or sure.
/r/MGTOW08/12/18 04:23 AM
3

wow! is there any info to back this up? I want to have my arguments ready when I mention it...
/r/MGTOW08/12/18 04:03 AM
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What do you say to the thought that one simply cannot be "himself" unless he exists for himself. Not to be a selfish prick but to experience life unencumbered by the conditions of another. Some may see this as inert or even toxic to society because the single person is not as strongly bonded to society.
/r/MGTOW01/12/18 01:32 PM
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If you have an open mind you can learn from all things. But, OP's point is that you shouldn't rely on other people to "save" you. You should love yourself first. Forgive yourself first. Humble yourself first. That is really the only thing you have any hope to control over and even that is tenuous. We have a lot of misinformation to overcome. Probably a ton of bad habits to let go of. And, if you're human, you have your emotions to tango with.
/r/MGTOW03/11/18 01:37 PM
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As Johny Cash once said: "Understand your man!"
/r/MGTOW30/10/18 11:45 AM
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Nice move my man. Stay clear of that shit. A quote I once heard is "The problem with putting everyone else first is that you train people that you come last." You can be a morally decent human being without being a doormat for other people that can't get their own shit together on the regular.
/r/MGTOW02/10/18 01:15 AM
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Many crimes or even deeds go on unsubstantiated. In most matters it is i just left alone because the time and energy it takes to confront just isn't worth it to whomever suffered the perceived injustice. No? How many times someone pulled some shit on you or someone you know and after weighing it out in you head and heart you decided just to move on? That would be first point in debating why I would believe this accuser. One might rebut and say "why now?! after 30 years!?" and to that I would say…
/r/MGTOW29/09/18 09:17 PM
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Well, the should be applauded for that! Look at dudes: they don't even linger around the finish line. We grab whoever we think won't push us away....or even the one's that will. We're grabbing just about anyone. At least woman are selective. I think it's clear by now we have to play our hand as peacocks and panthers to get some bonding action going on.
/r/MGTOW29/09/18 12:25 PM
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I actually liked Bill and thought the Monica Lewinsky thing was a smear campaign led by his jaded opponents. I rationalized that someone with so much to lose would never be that dumb to risk it all. Well, I was wrong. This and other scandals made me realize that people do crazy risky stupid shit all the time and erased some of my innocence I had about people. And while hard evidence is a clincher in a court of law there is enough doubt about Bret K that I wouldn't hire him for the job he is appl…
/r/MGTOW29/09/18 11:24 AM
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wait, hold on. Nobody gives a shit? damn
/r/seduction13/09/18 02:55 AM
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In my younger years I was a big fan of "Friends with benefits" - hang out, have some laughs, have a few conversations, fool around, share a meal and then...bye! longest I lasted with that scenario was about a year. And it was perfect.
/r/MGTOW26/08/18 04:39 AM
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OP is so right: The dating game is ridiculous and fraught with peril. But yet "society" (and our libido) keep pushing us to bond with someone. I'm a bit bitter that people don't value the "single guy" as much as the hitched man. I guess on a certain scale they have more "power" because there is two rather than one but could it be so simple? I know it can be awkward for a single person to hang with a couple and vis-a-versa. humans, oye!
/r/MGTOW26/08/18 04:38 AM
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Society has trained them to feel secure that if they get a man for long enough (marriage or even sooner in some cases) that they will always have an option "out" with a parachute and a soft landing. And in a big way the person paying for it is the man she is leaving. That's one reason we are all here: we call bullshit on that! An extreme version is that she does this from the get-go = she purposely enters a relationship with someone ONLY for the buyout at the end when she is ready to push the bu…
/r/MGTOW26/08/18 04:13 AM
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True but dudes can be just as loose with their main squeeze at times.
/r/MGTOW26/08/18 03:59 AM
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That why we would all benefit in learning the art of seduction. Consciously learning what it means to flirt, attract, seduce, and so on will raise your chances of winning desirable partners above the average. Then there is another art for keeping them around...We are animals that get triggered by certain ancient behaviors and influenced/controlled by even more ancient hormones. Free will plays into it a lot less than most people think.
/r/seduction14/08/18 03:45 PM
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I like the peace of being alone as well. But, I like hanging with people I like better. The hard part is finding people I like and then dealing with all the nitty gritty details once I decide to pursue a friendship. It has to be worth the effort or otherwise I don't make the effort. I don't hate people. In fact I feel that it's people that make make most experiences meaningful. With my ego detached I find almost every human encounter a learning experience...but it can be exhausting. I forgive mo…
/r/MGTOW16/06/18 12:21 PM
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Don't get too excited boys, Ky_biker did some homework and discovered that this is just a tale. Oh, but a good one
/r/MGTOW05/04/18 10:42 AM
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I like your honest comment and awareness about yourself. I like, also, what you said about putting walls up. I think almost everyone (except for the most extreme outgoing of us) use "walls" to keep people at a comfortable distance from each other. That means walls are used on me, you, OP, etc. That is what I think part of the problem with human interaction is. Each of us is complicated in our own way and to "connect" we have to not only reach out but also allow others around our walls - which we…
/r/seduction21/03/18 12:28 PM
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You comment is excellent advice for this person.
/r/seduction21/03/18 12:00 PM
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NT Thirtynine has valid points. So many assumptions are being made about the subjects situation. "People" question his actions because they want to make sure he isn't falling into a "cuck." role. It sounds like he is making his kids upbringing a priority. He gets points for that. Maybe he left her, or they mutually split, because they weren't compatible? I don't understand why most of the commentators assume she left him...doesn't celebrate his birthday in a similar manner...is following her aro…
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 02:42 AM
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City people can be "closed up" or selfish or just exhausted with social interaction because there is sooo much of it. This can come off as rude, disinterested, aloof. I struggle sometimes just to have a spontaneous conversation with strangers here on Long Island. I feel many people just want to be left alone. Cool, whatever. But when I travel up-state (north of the city) I find people to be measurably more receptive to conversation. I lived in LA for a few years - to be adventurous. You would th…
/r/seduction04/03/18 01:08 PM
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It's not what you do....but what you do next that matters. You could strike out left and right for weeks. If you gave up and got down on yourself then you would be a loser. But if you kept trying, with the understanding that maybe you have a lot to learn but are willing to keep trying - then, No - you would not be a loser.
/r/seduction02/03/18 12:33 PM
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The quickest way to learn is make a lot of mistakes. Overcoming fear is failure is essential to success here and everywhere.
/r/seduction02/03/18 12:29 PM
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I think what everyone calls "society" is actually a jumble of "societies" overlapping, interacting, repulsing each other. And aren;t societies just groups of people that believe on some level there is a connection between others who think the same way or care about the same things? Break it down farther and you have individuals are are just as clueless as you or I about what the fuck this world of people is all about and our place in it at any particular time. We must congratulate ourselves that…
/r/MGTOW22/02/18 01:41 PM
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