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Social IssuesOk-Dragonfruit-1592/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:25 PM
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Ok, but experts these days can make smartphones. So clearly they're doing something right these days.
/r/MensRights24/01/25 02:57 PM
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Lol you really thought you did something with that link, didn't you 🤭 That link blames fatherlessness. How is deadbeat dads causing school shootings anything but compatible with the idea men are to blame?
/r/MensRights24/01/25 02:56 PM
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Over 90% of school shooters are male. School shooters are incels.
/r/MensRights24/01/25 01:57 PM
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Can you prove that, or are you just trying to blame women for the actions of men again? Be honest
/r/MensRights24/01/25 01:56 PM
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Do incel rallies exists? Yeah they're called school shootings
/r/MensRights24/01/25 01:04 PM
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Gender affirming language is, by definition, gender correct. And I guarantee there are many people in Germany and the US who do use that language.
/r/MensRights24/01/25 12:53 PM
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That's a very cisnormative thing to say
/r/MensRights24/01/25 12:45 PM
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I wasn't the one who started talking about "biological" women.
/r/MensRights24/01/25 12:44 PM
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That's not a very clear term tho, as female can refer to both sex and gender.
/r/MensRights24/01/25 12:43 PM
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If only; I thought oppressed people were supposed to be silent?
/r/MensRights24/01/25 12:00 AM
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biological women You mean cis women. Trans women are biological beings too, same as all humans.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 11:58 PM
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Good times, amirite
/r/MensRights23/01/25 11:57 PM
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What kind of violence am I supposed to define it as? The other guy was suggesting slavery.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 01:44 PM
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It all comes down to money in the end, which creates a level playing field for comparison. Convert actual physical or mental effort into a monetary equivalent If men had to pay a stranger for everything women do for them (live in nanny, cook, cleaner, sex worker, surrogate, just to name a few) they'd be filing for bankruptcy. I have already mentioned that women don't have to put in much effort to cook, clean or do laundry with the labour Which is plainly bollocks, because it's well documented th…
/r/MensRights23/01/25 01:07 PM
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I find reading helps. My comment that you bitched about was a response to a different commenter claiming women have no power and are lucky men don't enslave them all. My response is a demonstration of just how much power a woman can wield over a man, if she chooses. So maybe it's men who should consider themselves lucky? Warhol certainly was.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:52 PM
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Incels are hilarious. You never shut up about men killing themselves and the "male loneliness epidemic" whilst also making fun of depression 😂 This is why man clubs don't work. Men save yourselves from yourselves challenge [challenge impossible]
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:49 PM
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Are you? That data consistently shows worse outcomes for females
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:45 PM
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So remind me again how women need the permission of men to take action 🤭
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:42 PM
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You know Femicide literally represents 20% of the total killings, right? 80% are the men which by the way 30% were killed by women they knew. We don't deny it doesn't happen, we deny the exaggeration put on it But this is a question of prejudice. If the vast majority of men are dying not because of IPV, and not even because of women, but usually because of other men, how is that the fault of women? Meanwhile, when women are killed, it's usually a man, and 2/3rds of the time it's their partner.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:39 PM
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The false accusations that are about as common as lottery tickets
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:36 PM
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Most rape perpetrators at men were women. 1 That's bs: nearly 80% of people who rape men are also male. 1 in 3 men are victims to domestic violence from their wives, So what you're telling me is the vast majority of domestic violence sufferers are women. I'm so shocked. Can't you tell? Look, this is my shocked face.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:35 PM
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Men are literally on here routinely denying the existence of femicide when men are the killers of women 90+% of the time. Yet women are committing infanticide at a rate not even approaching 60:40 and because of that the men on this sub think women need to be told to stop killing kids? You don't care about infanticide, you just want to leap on the opportunity to punish women for literally anything, no matter how rare, whilst ignoring the extremely common crimes men commit regularly against women.…
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:28 PM
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Of other men, maybe. Notice how men are still the problem?
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:25 PM
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This comment is why women get primary custody
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:24 PM
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that we have to go back to pre-modern times. Considering that the academic consensus is that there was actually a pretty fair division of labour in hunter-gatherer times that would be a fucking shock to the system for straight men 😂
/r/MensRights23/01/25 02:25 AM
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Ones far easier than the other I agree, men have it real easy
/r/MensRights23/01/25 02:22 AM
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But 3 in 4 of mums work, yet they're still saying they do more housework. they have to do something apart from caring for children (which they want equally with their partner), But if both partners work, the domestic duties including childcare should be 50:50. But that's not what we see. Working women are still doing more domestic labour, even when they work as much or more than their male partners. to help pay the bills for the food and shelter she is receiving for free More like she gets food …
/r/MensRights23/01/25 02:21 AM
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No one deserves a death sentence
/r/MensRights23/01/25 01:39 AM
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Again, if you're not ok with the dynamic don't sign up to it. That simple. But as I said, men baby trap women all the time. They pressure them into having unsafe sex, deny them abortion rights and impoverish them by profiting off their unpaid labour in the relationship or abandoning them in pregnancy. There's no choice in any of that. you are not accountable for a company or a family that needs to be fed. Ty for admitting men shirk their domestic responsibilities. If only women could do that. Th…
/r/MensRights23/01/25 01:35 AM
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Or you could just read an anthropology journal. But it's sounding like you didn't do that and instead pulled that explanation out your arse.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:58 AM
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As Iong as the bare minimum living conditions are met, which isn't a lot. But the bare minimum would be half her share of the domestic duties+ half the share of any children share. Which is only half what is expected of women. Also, what about when the bare minimum never stops? A newborn needs to feed every 2 hours and can suckle for almost an hour. She doesn't get to clock off from that, but the man can be done in 9 hours.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:55 AM
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Cope
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:44 AM
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So that's the new line is it? They don't work more hours, but if they do it's not that much. What's next, if it is that much they deserve it?
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:44 AM
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Lol, "only". If men had to do that extra hour they'd never shut up about it
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:42 AM
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Once every month. Meanwhile women have to suckle a newborn every other hour for nearly an hour for months but that's fine
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:41 AM
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This analysis was posted on this very sub and lauded as incredible research, and it clearly shows women working more total hours than men
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:39 AM
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Cool cool, quick question: when do you think housewives should get to clock off? Protip for everyone regardless of sex: don't enter dynamics you are not okay with. Women are regularly baby trapped by men, so that's easier said than done.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:36 AM
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The fact men constantly bitch at their wives & gfs to care for them suggests otherwise.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:30 AM
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You think men became afraid of a bunch of women who were protesting? I think Andy Warhol was pretty scared of Valerie Solanas 🌝
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:23 AM
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I'm not sure about gay relationships, but considering unmarried women live longer it's a pretty big incentive to stay unmarried, and shows women risk a lot for men when they marry them
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:16 AM
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Who said they only do laundry? It was an example of a chore . . . You did, when you said a woman would count casually doing laundry over the course of a day a full days work Most women in relationships aren't caring for newborns though. No, it's worse, they're caring for men. And unlike their man child partners, at least the newborn has an excuse.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:13 AM
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I’m telling you the history. Which you obviously don’t know I did, it just has no relevance Sole mother custody was not forced onto women by men…. I didn't say it was? I said childcare in a relationship is, and that's the reason men lose the custody battles they do bitterly complain about and have to pay child support
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:11 AM
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Women go for men that earn than they do, so it is relative. This increases the standard of living for both people. That's bs. Women are often impoverished by their relationships with men. If women were purely focused on their wellbeing & standard of living, they stay unpartnered and childfree. women often prefer to let their career take a backseat to be involved with their children. By choice. What choice? She has to have at least some time off to care for a newborn in a way only a mother can, l…
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:09 AM
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I doubt it considering that other users have posted evidence on this very sub showing that women do more total work.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:03 AM
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What are you talking about? Family courts today, not 200 years ago, give custody based on the needs of the child, which includes who the primary caregiver is. And that's usually women.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:59 PM
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And what about when both partners work? 75% of mums work.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:58 PM
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I just explained why it’s fair to you. Because most of the time the guy also has his own set of chores. As listed above, which you refuse to acknowledge. Acknowledge it. I also acknowledge these chores are very infrequent compare to what the woman is burdened with. The epitome of this thought process you have is exemplified best when men use the draft to excuse sexism. Like it's all well and good demanding respect because "we fight in the wars" but when was the last time any man actually had to …
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:56 PM
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But they would tho. One of the top complaints on this sub is child support & custody arrangements. But the top reason women often get more custody is because they are the primary caregivers for children, which is a consequence of the relegation of women to domestic labour. If men shared the domestic burden, this would not be the case. They'd get the joint custody they bitch about wanting, and then they wouldn't have to pay child support either. So really, the issue of women dominating domestic l…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:51 PM
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Are women going to do any of that ? I highly doubt it. Single women do it, so it's clearly possible; women don't actually need men to do those things. They're just activities men claim, probably because they're pretty infrequent.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:47 PM
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These are household chores that people are supposed to do for themselves. But men don't; they have their partners do their share, even when they're finished with work. Meanwhile women have to do their share, their own share, and their kids share. How is that fair?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:46 PM
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Unpaid work isn't work. It's literally in the name Parents at home get breaks, when mine was before school age Oh great. So she just has to have no breaks for literally years and then she can eventually sit down once in a while. Sounds totally fair. No I'm not, and adding another adult in is not that much more work. It's literally 3 times the amount of work at the very least if you have even one kid. That's 200% more. I've done all this myself, it is not hard, women just like bitching. Or maybe …
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:43 PM
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Explain to me why a woman should never get to clock off like a man can, or earn a wage from her labour like a man does.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:38 PM
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the last girlfriend I had virtually couldn’t do anything house hold wise. The girls I met in uni lived in utter filth What queens 🥰
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:35 PM
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You want women to be your slaves; say less.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:35 PM
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What stay at home mum only has laundry to do? Mums have to cook, clean, do laundry and look after kids at the very least on a daily basis. And some of those tasks she don't even get a break from (like caring for a baby or toddler). You know what I gave my friend as a new mother gift recently? Food. Home cooked food. This was based on advice I'd received from other mums, because looking after a baby at home is so taxing they don't even have time to cook. Did you know a newborn needs feeding once …
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:34 PM
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Notice how pretty much all those chores are sporadic, but the ones expected of women (cooking, cleaning, laundry, childcare) have to happen every day, often multiple times a day
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:28 PM
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But was it necessary housework? Considering the way straight men live when there isn't a woman around, probably
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:27 PM
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Because I'm sure you, a random pseudonymous commenter on the internet, know so much better than countless university graduates and doctors.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:26 PM
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how about the extra five years men get to spend being dead on average compared to women? How about the extra years of life men get when they have a female partner. It's well documented that married men live longer than unmarried men due to their partners not only encouraging them to maintain their health, but also caring for them when sick. And whilst we're at it, let's talk about how married women receive the opposite effect, living less long than unmarried women. Are men going to compensate th…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:25 PM
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Every sub-demographic had women working more total hours (paid+unpaid combined). working a job is far more work and tiring than doing housework. That's just total bullshit tho. I'd much rather sit on my fat ass in an office than run around after kids whilst also finding time to juggle cleaning, laundry, cooking, and god knows what else. Also men get breaks at work, which is a luxury women don't if they're supervising children. You literally have to be on all day. And if you don't believe me thin…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:22 PM
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That's what men often demand from women, tho.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:16 PM
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Considering most men aren't high earners, that's clearly not true. Women might want that (honestly who doesn't want a rich partner?) but it's not what they're pursuing in practice. so to compensate, you do more work inside the home right ? But the man in this scenario gets to clock off at 5 pm; she doesn't. Also it's not like he pays her a wage usually, either. I also doubt that even the men that actually give their stay at home partners any sort of allowance for this type of division actually p…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:15 PM
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Not really. If you look at the different activities, men seem to get to spend more time on fun, hobby type things like watching TV, recreation, sport, religious activities and so on, whereas women spend more time do maintenance or care type things like caring for family and housework housework.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:11 PM
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Ever noticed how domestic things that men claim are extremely infrequent, like mowing the lawn or fixing something broken, but domestic jobs relegated to women (cooking, cleaning) have to happen every day? Funny that.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:03 PM
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By acknowledging that gender roles emerged naturally out of the conditions that we evolved under, And you can prove that, can you?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:01 PM
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That's funny. Feminists often say the problems of men are created by the patriarchy, in effect making male issues also feminist issues. For example, a common feminist response to the make issue of loneliness is that it's a problem born of toxic masculinity that needs to be unlearned. Yet I've brought this sub a problem women experience and it's disavowed entirely. I can understand debating the truthfulness of the issue (whether women do more work) but saying it's not a men's issue feels like an …
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:01 PM
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this post proves otherwise
/r/MensRights22/01/25 10:55 PM
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I read thru that post, and in every sub-demographic women were doing more total work. Is the takeaway supposed to be that men are, in fact, lazier? Cause that certainly doesn't prove the opposite.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 10:54 PM
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And how many extra hours do you think women do in their homes per day?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 07:10 PM
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Misogynist says what?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 07:09 PM
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There is decades of evidence.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 07:08 PM
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And their thoughts only happen to agree with decades of research.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:54 PM
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Lol. At least if I get mad I don't hit women.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:52 PM
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Sorry to hear that bud, take all the time you need to cool off, ok?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:51 PM
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Funny how you can write walls of text but you can't answer a simple question: which rights that feminists won you would you like to lose?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:50 PM
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So strong and independent she's advocating for male privilege. Wow, girlboss & She-EO amirite?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:48 PM
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You're a misogynist
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:47 PM
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But you're a misogynist so you should love that
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:45 PM
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Yep
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:44 PM
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Yuh huh
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:44 PM
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Already did
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:41 PM
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Yeah I did
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:38 PM
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I already showed you, learn to read
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:37 PM
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But I did tho
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:30 PM
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Yeah I did
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:28 PM
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how quick you people are to resort to misogynistic slurs when a woman fails to step in line with the narrative The narrative of--checks notes--wanting women to have human rights. Also, I feel like it's misogynistic to not call out a woman when she's doing wrong just because she's a woman. straw-man BS like this? But this is certal to the argument. You're a woman against feminism, so I'd like to know exactly what rights you'd like to give up, rights that feminists won for you
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:28 PM
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I did tho
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:25 PM
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what words have I used to hate every single woman on the planet All of them You're only argument is a deflection and doesn't address my argument lmao No it's not
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:15 PM
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I've only ever used words for this entire argument buddy Hateful, hateful words Still haven't address the other part of my comment yet lmao. Yes I did
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:13 PM
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Explain how I hate all women lmao. Actions speak louder than words, buddy
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:10 PM
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Where? Considering I am a woman that'd be a bit self-defeating, So you're a pick-me? That's hilarious. If you think that challenging feminist dogma, which is deeply bigoted and sexist in and of itself, is "incel rhetoric", then sure Quick question: how many women do you think a man should legally be allowed to own?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:08 PM
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Yeah at least they stopped treating black people like slaves eventually
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:07 PM
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I understand it, it was just a shit play
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:05 PM
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No i have not Yeah you have Also you haven't even explained why feminism uses the same points as racism. White men have historically subjugated women and black people
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:05 PM
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By that logic, patriarchy has never been real, even when women were literal slaves
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:02 PM
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Prove it. Well, it's a personal website and it spouts incel rhetoric. There ya go. needlessly snide That's rich coming from someone who works desperately hard to deny the struggles of women
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:02 PM
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How??? Idk, it's just a feeling but maybe it's the bike hatred for women you display at every turn. That might have something to do with it. Also address the rest of my argument please What argument? I've already proven you wrong. This is just extra credit now.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 06:00 PM
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I'm not even a misogynist You are tho, just own it bro
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:55 PM
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The logic of racists is the same as the logic of misogynists, like you
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:51 PM
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It's not a generalisation if it's true
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:45 PM
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Not an "incel blog" It literally is a glorified blog run by an incel and it's certainly more reputable than your "because I said so" comments. I've been citing universities, big news organisations and journals tysm sources are cited at the bottom of the page There are very few academic or otherwise reputable sources on that list, and I fail to see what the ones you did list are supposed to prove
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:45 PM
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No actually men are lazy overall due to the fact they work less
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:42 PM
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But men work less so they are lazy, and we proved it together
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:40 PM
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Men literally clock off at 5pm, meanwhile women clock off never
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:38 PM
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Men mostly sit on their asses and profit off the labour of women, often unpaid.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:37 PM
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Except you proved men are lazy
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:35 PM
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Sounds like you pulled it out your arse to me. Put up or shut up.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:33 PM
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That all you got left? No academic sources, no accountability, but random words?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:32 PM
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Prove it
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:31 PM
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I've told you before that incel blogs are not reputable sources.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:31 PM
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How are men working more
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:29 PM
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Cope with what? You being misogynistic?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:28 PM
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How is a woman who works the same hours or more than her husband working less than him?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:27 PM
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He says, denying all academic sources
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:26 PM
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The vast majority of women still work as much as their partners Please read before replying
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:26 PM
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Why would you think this targets you? Are you a man who expects his partner to both work and do all the housework? You could too. That's the beauty of not being wrong tho, I don't have to 😘
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:24 PM
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How is a couple of percentage points a decent amount less? The vast majority of women still work as much as their partners whilst doing most of the housework. How is that fair?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:23 PM
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Agree to disagree ig. Nothing much else left to say. Or you could just admit you were wrong and achieve some personal growth?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:21 PM
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Ok, how's Penn State university or Stanford I don't even know why you question this on a logical level when you accept that women are typically primary caregivers and also work almost as much as men. It only logically follows that they have to be working more than men overall.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:19 PM
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then you agree it isn't biased towards women? Also no. Family court? No. If anything it's biased against women. I said we both agreed holy shit so stupid Touchy much, Jesus. Stop derailing the argument You're the one talking about a gender war
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:17 PM
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Two thirds didnt? But the women in this scenario are backed up by reality. a random wiki article isn't gonna cut it. What's wrong with Wikipedia? It has a slew of sources
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:13 PM
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What are you on about that is NOT what I was saying. Then you agree that women getting custody more isn't a sign of bias So women do go back to work after getting divorced? Was this a point of contention? Just gender war bs. You mean the war on women?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:11 PM
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Can you verify if the woman's claims are true or not? Literally decades of academic research confirming it. Also, that same survey had a third of men admitting they didn't do enough around the home.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:07 PM
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No one said that lmao. The end result of your logic. Bias =/= any difference, its prejudice, and prejudice is based in belief rather than reality. most likely go back to work after divorce is done They have too considering the number of deadbeat dads
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:05 PM
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Which is much smaller This was reference to the number of stay at home dads v mums, which was proven correct by your stats Also can give you give me the direct stat that says that so I can address it? You were agreeing that women were doing more housework than men, but ok. From the survey: By 2023, this had risen to 72%. And the participation of mothers in the labour market has never been higher. In contrast, 78% of working-age men had a paid job in 1983 - and now, it is 79%. So difference in la…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:03 PM
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Is life biased against men because they can't give birth? Bias is stigma & discrimination. This isn't a stigma, the man in these scenarios is just less equipped to handle the needs of the child.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:55 PM
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Own what? I never said that. Also you forgot this: But even the women who work the same hours or more than their partners are saying they also have more housework to fo
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:51 PM
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Ok, well done, you actually provided a decent source. Now let's examine the claims: These considerations can be inherently considered to be biased. For instance, only 7% of fathers are the stay-at-home parent. While they may be earning the family’s income and providing for the children, the court will still consider how much time the mother has spent with the children—and, by contrast, how much the father has been out of the house—when determining custody. So, in short, they're saying that the m…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:49 PM
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Women work less, so of course they're gonna do more at home But even the women who work the same hours or more than their partners are saying they also have more housework to fo You stated that there were more stay at home dads than mom's and now you're deflecting No I didn't
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:42 PM
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An actual firm of solicitors saying divorce court doesn't favour women
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:40 PM
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But the women who work are also reporting that their partners do less domestic chores than them. How can you look at a man and a woman who both have a 9 -5 and still think the woman should come home and do a bunch of extra work the man doesn't have to.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:38 PM
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Because what you're saying isn't true, and it is a patriarchy thing.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:36 PM
1

What's not clicking for you that the number of working mum's is many times higher?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:34 PM
0

Anything can be cited. I could cite Power Rangers if I wanted. Doesn't make it a reputable source.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:32 PM
1

But 75% of mums work too. So when the vast majority of women work, why are the vast majority also reporting they do the most housework still?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:30 PM
0

Explain to me how a blog, which is held to no journalistic or academic standards, is as reputable as the Guardian or the BBC
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:29 PM
1

So you agree men are shirking their domestic duties?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:26 PM
-3

It's literally a question of exclusion but sure
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:26 PM
1

Right about what? I never said stay at home dad's aren't a minority... It doesn't change the lack of housework men do compared to women.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:25 PM
1

Weep for humanity, perhaps.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:24 PM
1

1 in 5 stay at home parents are dads ... so I was right. Ty for confirming ig?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:22 PM
1

Sure, buddy
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:21 PM
1

What citations? A random incel blog?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:21 PM
1

Mark from down the street bitching about women in his blog is hardly top quality research
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:20 PM
1

I mean, they don't, but you hate women so why do you even care if they do?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:20 PM
0

Again I can't see what isn't there
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:18 PM
1

Sure just ignore the citations
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:18 PM
1

Men blaming women fir their own problems again
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:18 PM
0

Men aren't lazy nor are household chores difficult because men work and do some household chores. But they do less than women, despite working as much Especially comparing tye number of stay at home moms to house husbands Which is much smaller.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:17 PM
0

I never said feminists hate men
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:16 PM
1

Imagine thinking one of the biggest and most reputable news organisations, the people who broke the story on Edward Snowden, are of equal journalistic integrity to a random incel blog
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:15 PM
-5

And when it happens to white men? Oh wow, a single white man experienced a miscarriage of justify. I'm sure women must have no clue what that feels like. A system that benefits women over men is not a "patriarchy", and frankly this is a rather pathetic strawman retort. Answer the question: why would men want to imprison women when they're looking after their kids? I don't really see the benefit for women either. Whether or not they're trapped by bars or babies, they still trapped by men.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:14 PM
1

Yeah, just ignore the decades of research, feelings over facts amirite
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:11 PM
1

The issues men create for themselves
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:10 PM
1

I never dropped my argument. Unlike you, who is still yet to explain why men are so lazy
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:10 PM
1

Smile? Bro I'm laughing, you're hilarious
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:09 PM
1

Ikr, asking for basic human rights, so hateful ugh
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:09 PM
1

The myth of family court bias against men is thoroughly debunked at this point, but please, keep engaging in your woman hating fantasies.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:08 PM
1

You're welcome to offer literally any proof at any time
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:07 PM
1

women do falsely accuse men That's just women succeeding in male dominated fields
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:07 PM
-1

Yep. The real question is: do I care?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:06 PM
1

iconic Ftfy 🥰
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:06 PM
1

Abortion is a medical procedure with a set definition provided by medical authorities, idk what to tell you. Learn what words mean maybe?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:05 PM
1

Luckily feminists never required male cooperation 😘
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:04 PM
1

Considering that family courts are biased to men, I doubt that
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:03 PM
1

So you can't, ty
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:02 PM
0

Feminists don't support circumcision, men do falsely accuse women and misandry is a work of fiction
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:02 PM
1

You manage it just fine
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:01 PM
1

Pot? This is kettle: you're black
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:01 PM
1

I can't look up something that only exists in your head
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:01 PM
0

Misogyny is literally enshrined in law; misandry never has and never will be
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:59 PM
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When men can legally own women, I'll believe in misandry
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:59 PM
1

It's not tho, because misandry isn't systemic or institutional
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:58 PM
1

Prove it
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:58 PM
-1

What response? You're just denying that racism exists.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:57 PM
0

Is femicide a privilege men should have?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:57 PM
0

No you didn't, you swerved. You literally have no response to the fact women both work in and out of the home, whilst men offload their domestic responsibility to women
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:56 PM
0

Literally the same as for women
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:55 PM
1

Misandry isn't a thing
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:55 PM
0

Nope
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:54 PM
1

The gender equivalent to racism is misogyny.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:54 PM
1

Misandry would need to be real to be part of an ideology
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:54 PM
2

LMAO of course the "so you hate women" bullshit comes But saying "you hate men" is fine
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:53 PM
0

Feminism advocates for women's rights.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:52 PM
1

What question? Also you haven't answered my question, which is that, if women can go to work and do housework, why can't men?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:51 PM
1

Cry about it
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:50 PM
-1

You just asked for abortions for men, which would require said men to be pregnant
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:50 PM
-2

Personally I choose to hate things that actually exist
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:49 PM
1

But you can generalise about feminists
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:48 PM
1

But generalising about feminists is ok apparently
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:48 PM
-1

What point? You just hate women, how is that a point. It shows how violent men are" back to the stupid generalizations again. Imagine if a racist said this about black people. I can't even explain how messed up this shit is The thing is tho, when a racist says it about black people it's actually not true. Unfortunately we have decades of data proving the shocking levels of violence amongst men.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:47 PM
-2

Feminism is just an ideology that hates men. Is asking not to be raped and killed constantly by men hate now?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:46 PM
1

Why would men do housework and go to work at the same time???? Wonen do it. It's still a random BBC survey So? The BBC is one of the most reputable news organisations going. And it's hardly groundbreaking research here, just confirming what we already knew.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:44 PM
1

I didn't start this. This one case is being held up as an example of some sort of matriarchy. You can't blame me for correcting that by explaining how patriarchy is alive and well.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:43 PM
-2

Says the incel
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:42 PM
0

Cute me the law that says he isn't. You're the one asking for abortions for men after all.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:41 PM
1

You really trying to sell the idea men don't insult the masculinity of other men 😂 just sad
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:41 PM
1

according to a random BBC survey of course) And decades of research doesn't mean men are lazy. So why don't they?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:40 PM
1

I've seen men use the "real men" rhetoric, and I'm willing to bet a lot of other people here have too
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:38 PM
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lmao. You, a feminist, acknowledging you view male rape as less important because you think it happens a lot less while also blaming the patriarchy, is insane Didn't say that. What I am saying is that it shows how violent men are. Individual cases of the rape of males, but they're not indicative if a systemic level of misandry for that exact reason, which was the point. Of course a feminist blames racism, Of course an incel doesn't believe in racism Holy moly this might be the stupidest shit I'v…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:37 PM
-2

Everything men complain about, feminism can solve. For example: men are lonely & kill themselves because of patriarchy, which demands that men are strong and women are weak. Likewise, you say women and men should work together but that's the exact problem: men have historically never wanted to. That's the reason that feminism was created in the first place: men literally used to own women. The only reason that isn't the case any more is because feminists fought back.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:34 PM
-2

Based Drows
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:20 PM
-2

Any pregnant man is entitled to an abortion just the same as a woman
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:19 PM
-1

You know why
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:17 PM
-12

But men tell the truth, do they? Lol
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:17 PM
0

A man did do it, Keith May (the kidnapper), in conjunction with Joyce McKinney (the rapist).
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:15 PM
0

It is tho. Gay men are often not seen as real men, and women and men often call men gay for displaying behaviours not deemed masculine enough.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:14 PM
1

How is clearly condemning her at every opportunity justifying her
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:13 PM
1

But they don't. So which is it: laziness or a lack of credit being given to women
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:12 PM
1

women and men use both excuses to police male gender roles
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:11 PM
1

Note that this crime was committed by two people: Joyce's accomplice, Keith May, was the one who abducted Kirk Anderson and chained him to a bed, allowing Joyce to rape Kirk.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:09 PM
-1

But then you can include girls and we're right back where we started from.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:04 PM
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"Patriarchy" is when women receive more lenient treatment in the criminal justice system by a degree of over 60%. Of course men don't want to send women to prison, otherwise they might actually have to look after their own kids And women who rape men are rarely even counted as such That is a problem, but it is also one stemming from patriarchy, as men are supposed to be strong and women weak. Also worth noting how rare female rape of men is versus men raping women, which is practically an everyd…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:01 PM
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Here's the University of Santa Cruz explaining just that: There is a belief that rape is caused by uncontrollable sexual urges the perpetrator has not control over. Rape is actually an act of power and control and the sex is a tactic use by the perpetrator to gain this power. Wow that was fast.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 02:23 PM
-2

I've just shown you that the police arrest for rape at a higher rate than many, many other crimes. No you didn't, you claimed it but offered 0 proof. You're doing it again, assuming that our mothers, daughters and wives getting raped and burgled somehow benefits us as men. Probably because of all the decades of academic research showing it does lol You're a grade A idiot Says the man pushing patriarchy
/r/MensRights22/01/25 02:19 PM
-5

Someone committed a crime against this man, and the justice system did everything in its power to get to the bottom of it, exonerating him in only a month, and then swiftly prosecuting the actual criminal. That is a man benefiting from appropriate law enforcement. Meanwhile, women routinely decline to report rape because, even when they have evidence, the police fail to give a shit. That's patriarchy. How does it benefit the "patriarchy" that all these burglaries are going unsolved? Well women l…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 02:14 PM
-6

Different crimes have varying levels of difficulty to secure arrests and convictions Cool story, still patriarchy.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 01:56 PM
-1

I never justified her actions? She's right to be prosecuted. Meanwhile, you seem very eager to excuse male rapists.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 01:55 PM
-5

Usually women though
/r/MensRights22/01/25 01:49 PM
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and that doing their job in this case is evidence of patriarchy? No. I'm saying that a man benefiting from the criminal justice system doing its job, when so many women aren't nearly as lucky, is hardly a feminist takedown
/r/MensRights22/01/25 01:48 PM
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Your logic only works if you're assuming that the police were actively trying to exonerate this man, while keeping him behind bars for 31 days. I mean, they did exonerate him. Rightly so, but they did. I repeat, they were investigating the rape of a woman perpetrated by a male suspect. Well done, they did their job once. I mean women are raped and it goes completely overlooked or actively suppressed all over the world every day, but ok, one police force actually did their job for a change. Pats …
/r/MensRights22/01/25 01:13 PM
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Kind of, but there is also section 4 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003, which makes it illegal to cause someone to engage in sexual acts without consent. So even cis women can be prosecuted for rape and go to prison for it, even tho it's not called rape in the courtroom.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 01:11 PM
0

You cannot complain when someone freaks out because you identified as someone with a penis or vagina, and they find out you have a vagina or a penis. Why would they "freak out"? Straight men have a penis themselves. All a man has to do if he finds out a woman he likes has a penis and he's not into that is just walk away. It's not just that either, men and women are biologically different, trans men and women, cannot do with cis men and women, the things that cis men and women can do with one ano…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 01:07 PM
1

Not sure, but apparently 48,000 people identified themselves as trans women in 2021. Assuming half have had no bottom surgery, that's like 24,000.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 12:51 PM
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That would not be the flex you think it is. If anything, this story backs up the idea of patriarchy. Men will rape women and get away with it for years or literally their entire lives. Even if women try to prosecute, there was such a strong historical trend for not believing women that we had to have a whole movement about it (#MeToo). Meanwhile, a woman actually does make a false claim, and a man has to spend no more than 31 days in jail before she's found out and then swiftly prosecuted hersel…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 12:49 PM
1

Lol. I thought this was men's rights? Is homophobia not a male issue?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 12:39 PM
1

Penetration of the anus, mouth or vagina by a penis, where the victim does not consent, and the perp doesn't reasonably believe they do either.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 12:36 PM
1

I'm a gay man who has never experienced partner violence; how am I making this about me?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 12:21 PM
1

how many male victims of rape or domestic violence are omitted from the statistics due to bullshit like The Duluth Model of Domestic Violence? Underreporting is real, but it isn't nearly enough to account for the huge gap we see in the ratio of male to female offenders for several reasons: Women also face stigma that leads to underreporting In studies of sexual violence in prison populations, rape in male prisons is much more frequent than rape in female prisons Studies that also look at "forced…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 12:18 PM
1

Obviously yes
/r/MensRights22/01/25 11:46 AM
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I mean, it kinda does, as it means we know he is domestically violent.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:05 AM
-8

... disrespects the experiences of genuine survivors of intimate partner violence Like Rihanna
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:46 AM
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Why keep changing goal post? Where's the change? I've maintained a consistent line from the start, specifically that there is hypocrisy in this sub in the treatment of men & women. More specific that a 92% femicide rate by men apparently means nothing, but a 9% difference in infanticide between genders allegedly means the world. Based on this post, only reason is that women are weaker, if they find person weaker than them they are as violent as men Not really. Considering women are around childr…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:37 AM
0

No it doesn't, because even rare events can happen a lot if given enough chances. Hence the lottery analogy.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:32 AM
0

Again, that pales in comparison to 92% of femicides being committed by men
/r/MensRights22/01/25 04:26 AM
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I mean.. given that in business you only need to control 51% of a company's stock to be the "Majority" shareholder your argument is not a good one. I didn't say it wasn't a majority, I said it wasn't a particularly strong majority. It's far short of being a supermajority, for example. Meanwhile, men are so overwhelmingly overrepresented in perpetrators of femicide they're almost exclusively the culprits. And yet, this sub, the members of which routinely deny the extremely strong male association…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 02:23 AM
-5

All this say's is women who initiative violence against men are more likely to experience violence than women who do not initiate violence against men. No, that's the opposite of what the research is saying, which is that women are less likely to experience violence if they initiate. In short, men don't fight back (or at least they say they don't). This is not talking about women fighting back, it is about female perpetrators. Again, no, it said women being violent predicts the woman already hav…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 02:18 AM
0

I don't understand because you're speaking fucking nonsense. Percentages are important when talking about frequency, and that doesn't change anything with respect to sexual assault of women.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 01:32 AM
-1

Lol I'm a man but ok
/r/MensRights22/01/25 01:31 AM
-8

Why should women want a gender neutral draft when they're still living under a patriarchy? That's literally supposed to be the one upside. Men have often used "we fight in the wars" as a way to excuse so much historical sexism. How can you honestly be surprised, then, when a war happens and the women look at us men and say, "go on then, that's the deal remember". The absolute cheek, honestly.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 12:08 AM
-48

Thank God
/r/MensRights21/01/25 11:59 PM
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💯 They want to be victims so bad
/r/MensRights21/01/25 11:54 PM
1

If I buy millions of lottery tickets and win, it doesn't make the lottery easy, I just had more chances. Likewise, there being a similar total number of men and women killed by their partners doesn't mean men are at the same risk of being killed by their partner if men are dying at a much higher rate of all causes.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 11:51 PM
1

Stay at home mothers should do more housework, its their fucking job If it's a job, when does she clock off? Oh right, fucking never. Meanwhile the man gets to put his feet up at 5pm every day. Dusting, laundry, vacuuming are laughably easy, I can do them drunk Considering the way most men live, especially single men, I seriously doubt that. But even ignoring that, you're still looking after less people than any housewife with at least one kid. Also, it's understandable that you need to care for…
/r/MensRights21/01/25 11:45 PM
-1

Nice cherry picking. I cited hundreds of studies No you didn't. The only academic sources you gave me were 2 studies, one of which was paywalled btw, and a bibliography that I can't fully verify. The other links were what seems to be an incel blog, a pdf I'm not downloading (because why tf would I download a random pdf?) and an Imgur image of questionable providence. What's that saying? If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit ig. Anyway, here's what I can respond to, …
/r/MensRights21/01/25 11:41 PM
-5

A different explanation is that men are simply less willing to report hitting their partner than are women. From the study you cited. "Femicide" is supposed to mean '[the] killing of women and girls because of their gender. No it doesn't. It's literally just a subtype of homicide, like infanticide, tho often it is a hate crime too. does that then mean that male victims of the same should count as "androcide" It already does ...
/r/MensRights21/01/25 09:01 PM
2

Yes??? What kind of response is that.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 08:52 PM
-9

I saw the math, but the total numbers are a poor choice of statistic when more men are murdered in general. To learn the frequency of intimate partner violence as a factor in male and female murder, we need to look at the percentages
/r/MensRights21/01/25 06:31 PM
-5

But we're talking about the frequency of intimate partner violence, so the percentage is what's appropriate to talk about here, not the total numbers
/r/MensRights21/01/25 06:30 PM
1

That's not true, women and men use both excuses to police male gender roles
/r/MensRights21/01/25 06:21 PM
-142

Ikr
/r/MensRights21/01/25 06:19 PM
1

But if housework is trivial and easy, why can't men do it? The only explanation is either laziness or it's harder than credit is being given for. You choose.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 06:19 PM
0

Not at all. Those phrases are usually said by the same people in the same contexts.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 06:18 PM
-4

It is tho. It lives in that same space as "what are you, gay?"
/r/MensRights21/01/25 06:11 PM
1

Facts are cope now, apparently.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 06:11 PM
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Sir, this is at the top of the page of your own source: The percentage of females murdered by an intimate partner was 5 times higher than for males
/r/MensRights21/01/25 06:09 PM
-141

59% is "always"? That's only slightly more than 50:50 EDIT: What exactly is "emotional" and "combative" about simply reminding you of the fact that 59%--not even 60--isnt very far from 50:50? I acknowledge women perpetrators are somewhere overrepresented in infanticide cases, but it's important not to overstate the facts too, which is that more than 2 in 5 cases of infanticide are committed by men. Otherwise then people will say exactly what you said, that it's always a woman, which isn't true. …
/r/MensRights21/01/25 05:24 PM
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The thing is tho, 59% is barely a majority. Meanwhile, according to the BBC, 92% of women killed in the UK in 2021 were killed by men. And femicide is a lot more common than infanticide. Almost 2 in 3 of those killings are men killing their partners too. So if anything, men need to be told to stop killing their wives and gfs.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 05:22 PM
1

This BBC link is bullshit, its all about household chores only which are fucking trivial. And yet, men still can't be bothered to get off their arses and help with these supposedly trivial tasks. So with the men are extraordinarily lazier or the tasks are harder than you think--which is it? In either scenarios, men aren't looking very good. Peer review doesn't mean a whole lot when you get rubber stamped for repeating the favored ideology. Or maybe the data just doesn't support your viewpoint. A…
/r/MensRights21/01/25 04:55 PM
-26

Nope. "Real men" rhetoric is rooted in homophobia.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 03:58 PM
0

Reviewed by peers, exactly, peers with the same bias, i used to work in academics I know exactly how corrupt it is. Sounds like a convenient excuse for someone who's viewpoint isn't backed up by evidence. the stay at home moms are within the data, that means they have all day to do whatever and they SHOULD be doing more housework Even for the minority of mums who don't, their job is stay at home mum, not stay at home slave. Mothers are defined by caring for their children, not their husbands. It…
/r/MensRights21/01/25 03:57 PM
-1

right, efforts by folks with an agenda It's peer reviewed research published in academic journals. It's not Mark down the street writing in his blog. outdated info This survey by the BBC was produced 2 years ago.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 03:10 PM
-27

Did I stutter?
/r/MensRights21/01/25 03:00 PM
0

Unplanned pregnancy - like rape? If not then you should say the same thing about men Most men can't get pregnant, so ... no. You want to take women ability to pick their sexual partner or what is your solution for this? Men could actually thinking about whether or not they're prepared to support a child before encouraging their partner to keep the baby, especially in the abortion grace period. They should also be more encouraging about abortion in general. They also need to remember that, whethe…
/r/MensRights21/01/25 03:00 PM
-44

Yea, it's just good old fashioned homophobia. Men do it too.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 02:37 PM
-1

I doubt that, but no, I was talking about physical labour, also known in research as the second shift or double burden.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 02:36 PM
-1

I mean, none of the stuff I said is exclusive to marriage, but so what? Wives do do these things for their husbands, who benefit from those acts of female labor.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 02:34 PM
0

Women are not coerced into pregnancy. Yes they are, it happens all the time, particularly with unplanned pregnancies. Men will often tell women to keep the baby, pushing them to do so when in reality said men are not at all prepared to have a child. They then realise this a few months down the line, conveniently we'll after the legal abortion grace period, and dump their pregnant partner, leaving her as a single mum. But that's fine, the man still gets his legacy. It literally happened to a frie…
/r/MensRights21/01/25 02:32 PM
0

I fail to see how being coerced into a pregnancy, then abandoned by the deadbeat dad and forced to raise & pay for his kids entirely alone is for a woman's benefit. And that's a pretty common story.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 01:46 PM
-1

everything the wife does the man can do But he doesn't. That's the benefit. The actual labour she is performing, which is much harder and more useful than briefly imagining you are doing that labour. Also, men can't carry and birth children, so that's at least one thing men can't even pretend to do.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 01:45 PM
0

I'm not alone and I'm a man
/r/MensRights21/01/25 01:42 PM
-9

Imagine using Beavis and Butthead to support your worldview
/r/MensRights21/01/25 01:28 PM
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Ok, but in that scenario the sexual harassment is theoretically targeted at everyone who sees said person simultaneously so you'd need to account for the feelings of everyone who sees said person and take the general consensus. Which is what flashing laws are for and are best placed to deal with such cases. So your point is moot. Another issue is that sexual harassment is defined as unwanted behaviour that is sexual in nature. Just wearing clothes can't be that, so you need to create a list of w…
/r/MensRights21/01/25 01:27 PM
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Are you really claiming that vile women NEVER lie about good fathers and then portray them as "Abusive, Controlling, etc." in order to win primary custody and then pouson the kids against the father? I would never claim that. I'd also never claim that no one has ever won the lottery. But whether something is possible and whether it's plausible are two different things. Also, even if a woman did try this, it would not likely go how she expects, as research shows family court outcomes actually wor…
/r/MensRights21/01/25 01:20 PM
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When women legally own men, just like how men historically owned women, I'll believe in misandry
/r/MensRights21/01/25 01:08 PM
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you should agree to an Amicable divorce instead of trying to finesse the "incompatible moron" out of everything he has... Then take the kid. If your ex partner is such a bitch and is just trying to get money she doesn't need out of you, take your kid. Then not only do you not have to pay child support, she has to pay you. Literally all a man has to do is prove he's the primary caregiver.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 01:03 PM
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I didn't say never, I said words like "usually". And of the two of us, I'm backing up my statements with reputable sources.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 12:47 PM
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Who tf is "you people"? Also why would I care if the dad gets primary custody? Unlike most divorced dads, I'm more concerned about the well being of the child than oneupmanship. If the father is awarded primary custody, that would probably mean he's proven his fitness to take care of the kid better than the mother.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 12:44 PM
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You implied that men in general hate women I'm not implying shit, I'm saying it. Misogyny is widespread, especially amongst men, and you can see it in most of the responses to any thread in this sub. Don't know why women get married when hatred against men is so wide-spread" would you not see this sentiment as anti-female? Yes, because it's not true. Women actually give me way too much leeway, which is ironic considering the complete lack of gratitude in return.
/r/MensRights20/01/25 09:46 PM
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The fact you feel so confident denying the pervasiven nature of misogyny is misogynistic itself. From the National Police Chiefs Council: While men and boys also suffer from many of these forms of abuse, they disproportionately affect women. A woman is killed by a man every three days in the UK. Domestic abuse makes up 18 per cent of all recorded crime in England and Wales. Women are more likely to be victims of many types of crime such as domestic violence, sexual violence, trafficking, stalkin…
/r/MensRights20/01/25 08:01 PM
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Because ensuring an exact 50-50 split is quite difficult, and often serves to protect perceived fairness of the parents rather than the welfare of the child
/r/MensRights20/01/25 07:13 PM
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Which never happens. You're living in a fantasy.
/r/MensRights20/01/25 07:12 PM
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Your link goes to what seems to be an incel blog. Meanwhile my link goes to the Washington Post, a respected journalism organisation. These are not the same quality of source. I mean what's next, you gonna add a citation to your magic 8 ball? Secondly: Mother’s requests for sole custody are honored at 65% higher rate than men’s requests. You say that like it isn't in the well being of the child. Also somehow 40% of households in the us have women as the breadwinners yet only 3% of alimony paymen…
/r/MensRights20/01/25 04:49 PM
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Why do you feel the need to attack me as a person rather than attacking my arguments? Especially if you disagree with them. And what is anti male about telling men to leave the wives who they at the very least are not compatible with? What is anti male about suggesting that men stop seeking relationships that don't bring fulfilment? Or do you just think women should be slaves to men and that would solve any issues?
/r/MensRights20/01/25 04:38 PM
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Why does the mother often get primary custody of the kids? Because she's usually the primary caregiver. Why does the mother get the house? Because the kids need the house most, and she's the primary caregiver. Why do fathers commonly pay alimony (child support)? Because the mother is usually the primary caregiver. Are you noticing a pattern here?
/r/MensRights20/01/25 04:09 PM
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You know what's an easy way to avoid paying child support? Look after your own god damned kids. Fathers win custody 94% of the time if they actually bother to seek it, the problem is they often don't. Mothers don't keep fathers from their kids: fathers abandon them. lose half their shit It's not their shit, it's shit you share with your partner. If you split, why shouldn't she get 50% of everything? It's her shit too.
/r/MensRights20/01/25 03:57 PM
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Coercive control is a way of intimidating, isolating and controlling someone,1 and is almost always perpetrated by a male abuser against a female victim. From the same page.
/r/MensRights20/01/25 03:16 PM
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No one has to stay in a marriage they're unhappy in neither. Any man who's that unhappy and hopeless regarding his marital sex life is free to get a divorce. I honestly don't even know why men get married in the first place when hatred of women is this widespread.
/r/MensRights20/01/25 03:06 PM
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Almost laughable you think feminism is a kind of technology like ai. ??? Advance means to move forward. Others things than technology can move forward. By the source you cited its 1 in 4 women and 1 in 6 man, Nope, it was 1 in 7 for men so you can pretty much blame any one of two genders of being abusive. 1 in 4 = 25% 1 in 7 = ~14% That means abuse is being committed twice as much by men. That's a huge jump. So no, you can't just blame any gender, men specifically are much more likely to be comm…
/r/MensRights20/01/25 02:59 PM
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Reported for fact-checking? That's a new low
/r/MensRights20/01/25 12:03 PM
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Learn to argue properly rather than putting presumptions before every one of your “argument” They're not presumptions. The "second shift" has been a well documented phenomenon for decades, and it includes child rearing, and it never ended, despite advances in feminism. The fact you are ignorant of this suggests a deep level of ignorance regarding social issues and you should educate yourself before you choose to speak on this topic again. Likewise, domestic violence is experienced by women almos…
/r/MensRights20/01/25 12:01 PM
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Well he's already narrowed it down to rape by deception, and I've heard men claim this before, that lying about your dating/sexual history is rape by deception (lol). And men in this sub have a nasty habit of lying about their interactions with women in order to garner sympathy, which you can see from pretty much any of the custody battle posts. hear me out, if that is a preference for someone they can feel that way (there are men AND women who prefer their partner to be a virgin). But it's not …
/r/MensRights20/01/25 11:40 AM
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Be honest, you wouldn't trust them even if they did unless they back up your entrenched views
/r/MensRights20/01/25 01:39 AM
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It was a peer reviewed research paper. The fact a woman produced it changes nothing, and there's nothing inherently wrong with a paper having a single author either. You can't just cry because the research doesn't support your point of view; facts don't care about your feelings, petal.
/r/MensRights20/01/25 01:36 AM
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This is the problem with separated fathers. You see your children as extensions of yourself, like they're your property. They're human beings. You shouldn't be thinking about how you can use them to hurt your ex partner. Also, your ex partner can't force you to have supervised visits, only the court can do that, and there will be a reason. I mean, have you even got a job? Have you got rooms ready to go in your house for your kids? Could you actually take care of their day to day needs and pay fo…
/r/MensRights20/01/25 01:32 AM
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Ah yes, the female privilege of--checks notes--being raped as a child? 🤨
/r/MensRights20/01/25 01:18 AM
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What does not seem fair is that whether a father gets any physical time with the children, What about what's fair to the child? Mothers are usually the primary caregivers before the split, so why shouldn't they get primary custody? It's best for a child, especially in the wake of a huge upheaval like a divorce, to maintain a routine. And any father who claims to care for his kids should be willing to put their needs before his. This is the problem in all these discussions about child custody. Se…
/r/MensRights19/01/25 07:02 PM
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He is a dedicated and hardworking individual who fulfills his financial obligations by paying court-ordered child support He disguised his financial situation from his ex partner so he wouldn't have to pay higher child support. That's hardly upstanding father behaviour. Beyond this, he voluntarily provides additional support to ensure his child’s needs are met, Except he wasn't, because the court deemed it insufficient and ordered him to pay more. Also if he's so dedicated to the well being of h…
/r/MensRights19/01/25 05:49 PM
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his new job working with the city making six figures, a huge bump up from the 40k he was making prior, And I'm supposed to feel bad for such a well off man having to be legally compelled to provide for his child?
/r/MensRights19/01/25 05:26 PM
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Equal custody should be the default What you're talking about is shared custody, and there are many reasons it shouldn't be the norm. For example, if there's high conflict between two parents, it's better for the well being of the child (which should always be the ultimate guiding principle) to award primary custody to one or the other parent. And since women typically do the most domestic labour, this makes sense to be given to the mother. That said, men can still get primary custody, but the t…
/r/MensRights19/01/25 05:15 PM
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But child support modification requires evidence, and if there's evidence a man can pay more for his kids, why shouldn't he?
/r/MensRights19/01/25 04:57 PM
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Is joint custody not fair for a child that has 2 parents?
/r/MensRights19/01/25 04:56 PM
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Oh really? Is that right? Why don't you tell that to the CDC: 87% of male victims of (completed or attempted) rape reported only male perpetrators. And that completely tracks with the OP complaining about prolific male rape where the perpetrator is shockingly ... another man. If you care about male rape victims as much as you pretend to, you'd care about their real stories, including who the perpetrators are.
/r/MensRights19/01/25 04:18 PM
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He's probably one of these men who gets mad when he finds out a woman isn't a virgin
/r/MensRights19/01/25 04:10 PM
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... by men
/r/MensRights19/01/25 04:08 PM
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The OP is complaining about a man raping other men. Feminists complain about men being rapists. These are completely compatible statements.
/r/MensRights19/01/25 04:07 PM
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I already responded to you here.
/r/MensRights19/01/25 04:03 PM
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Ok, then if I'm so wrong, explain it to me: why are you advising this man to hide his finances from his ex partner? If you're not trying to give him advice about avoiding child support payments, then what are you suggesting?
/r/MensRights19/01/25 04:02 PM
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94% of fathers who seek custody are awarded joint or sole custody (source: Washington Post via Wayback Machine) If men don't have custody, it's because they don't care. It's easier to complain about their "bitch" ex-partner. That way they don't have to care for their children, they can pay little or nothing in child support and best of all still get sympathy from people around them for their allegedly hard lives.
/r/MensRights19/01/25 04:00 PM
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Why do you want the child in this situation to be poor?
/r/MensRights19/01/25 03:50 PM
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I'm guessing he actually didn't fight for custody and this is an informal arrangement
/r/MensRights19/01/25 03:49 PM
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I ended up in prison for a few months because the age of consent here is 16 and it was argued that I had sex with her when she was 15 Wdym "it was argued". You either did or didn't. And clearly you did, hence the conviction. So what you're really telling us is you're a convicted child rapist. But the bitch did not want me to ever have a life and to meet other women. So I only get to look after him on some weekends. Wdym "some weekends"? If you went to court and fought for as much custody as you …
/r/MensRights19/01/25 03:45 PM
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The Wikipedia article in question: A 2020 study by Wright et al. found that despite MGTOW claiming to reject women entirely, some 59% of MGTOW forum posts mentioned women, with the majority (61%) of those mentions being misogynistic in some way.[3] Jones et al. suggest that this reflects a need for MGTOW to perform their rejection of women in order to belong.[24] Maybe if MGTOW members stopped being misogynistic, people would stop calling them misogynistic? Just a thought.
/r/MensRights19/01/25 03:14 PM
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Today, men are being shamed simply for having preferences. If your preference is being a misogynist, you should be ashamed of that. If a man does not want his wife or girlfriend to wear a certain dress, he is labeled controlling or narrow-minded. You already know how they like to dress by the point you're partners. If you just have a preference, why did you get together with a woman who you know doesn't fit that preference? Forcing your partner to change how they dress is a classic sign of abuse…
/r/MensRights19/01/25 03:11 PM
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