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No idea, it's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:07 AM
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Just don't get caught. Or not be so easily swayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:04 AM
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Even if you try to do it in real life then hard part is to get into relationships, find somebody who will agree to go on for more than one date. In my own experience everything after that is trivial.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:10 PM
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Problem is that they follow advices from men who either bad at it or make money from you not being able to find relationships. And there's no way to measure how good or bad you at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:05 PM
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So if my girlfriend told me "no" by some reason I must dump her? I mean she might not want it right now, but she won't have problem tomorrow. But apparently I can't ask her again after one "no".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:06 PM
3

I'm afraid you have issues with understanding written text.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:49 PM
5

But if "yes" might mean "no" then there's no way to be sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:32 PM
7

Context is required there. What if I asked for sex and she said no because she's busy? Which is fine because I can just ask her later. Should I dump her on the spot to avoid coercion?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:29 PM
9

This creates a lot of issues. For example, wearing a makeup makes you a rapist because it affects man's consent. There's no way to know what is important for other person unless it clearly said. And on top of that making things like equal socioeconomic status mandatory significantly reduce dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:22 PM
1

Red pill goal is to make money from misery. And it does it perfectly. Of course ideas behind red pill are useful (because you have to have something useful for people to buy your bullshit courses). You just need to think for yourself and not just repeat a set of phrases and expect results.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:51 PM
3

Do you flirt with all and every man that you see? Of course you don't. Why did you decide that men have obligation to flirt with literally every woman they see?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:36 AM
7

But if there's no action that guarantee relationships then there's possibility that no action you take will lead to it. No matter what actions you take. So bad luck might make you undatable just by itself with no fault from your side.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:16 PM
5

So there IS action that guarantee relationships. That's one of the other actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:11 PM
8

Which means that blaming men for not taking right actions is silly at best. You might take actions and still get nothing. That's one of the issues - that a bad luck might make you undatable because lack of experience will be seen as a red flag. Despite that there's no fault from your side.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:00 PM
9

Did I say anything about hate? I assume that a lot of it caused by frustration after unsuccessful attempts to take actions based on that flawed knowledge. And having no idea what to do next.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:54 PM
6

There's no action that guarantee relationships. You might take actions and those lead nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:46 PM
7

There's no good information how to deal with opposite gender. So men try to make sense out of what's available. And that's what you get as a result. As an example, try to find anything useful about flirting. You'll find a lot of words that only make sense if you already know how to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:40 PM
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You just don't see men as human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:09 AM
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They're more than capable, just need to learn some skills that they usually don't learn, like asking for help. And not taught all this unrealistic hypermasculine crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:09 PM
5

Do you know the term "sampling bias"? In general you're absolutely horrible person and one of the reason why quite a lot of men just avoid going to gym or similar places.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:22 PM
4

Easy. You exist to solve those problems. If people stop having those problems then you job become pointless and you'll become a hobo, So it's in your personal interest to make sure that that those people exist and ask you to solve their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:08 PM
8

Don't be lazy and do your job. UPD: and your app is most likely shit directly from assholedesign subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:51 PM
34

Buy a vibrator then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:47 PM
11

A lot of guys went to redpill after they listened to women, tried to follow what they heard and that lead them nowhere. If I listen to women I'd still be single. Like my own sister once told me that I shouldn't even be bothered with relationships because it isn't for me. Problem with redpill is that it builds a misery monetizing business on top of solid foundation. That doesn't mean women are incapable of initiating or expressing desire It means exactly that. Only possible alternative is far wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:10 PM
4

You country didn't went insane and didn't start dumbest war in the history yet. Otherwise you'd be against draft in all it's forms. Lack of draft limits state's ability to do dumb shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:40 AM
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You'll be labeled as "incel" and basically canceled. Nobody want to be canceled so nobody speak up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:38 AM
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It's too late to get married and have kids at point when you're 100% ready and have all and every mean for that. Because you have only so much time to do that and most of that time is in period when you don't really have means to start a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:36 PM
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In my self-interest is to find somebody who doesn't need to be babying, somebody who know what they want as actual adult is supposed to do. If I need to do it at very beginning of the relationships then it's better to send that person back to kindergarten or similar place. Don't forget that women will never do anything like that if they see any sort of issue in you at that stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:36 AM
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It often mean "I can be loved only if I become different person and/or wear a mask all the time". Or it can be unachievable in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:41 AM
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This risk is always there no matter what you do. If you afraid of scaring a woman and making her feel awful then you'll die as single virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:55 PM
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Human nature didn't change in those years. Fact that you can't talk to a girl without ritual humiliation in the dedicated swipe-to-be-humiliated app is your own problem. Dating apps/sites exist for decades at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:51 PM
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Why? Women inability to find a good man is their problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:20 PM
3

You usually not on the stage when you actually care about other person at point where this rule is used.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:28 PM
3

It isn't your job to solve somebody's else problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:22 PM
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First, I absolutely hate words "eligible" and "high quality" there. Men aren't goods to be "high quality". If those women look for men that just meet some sort of checklist to be "eligible" then it's better for everybody if those women stay single. Men have zero obligation to meet somebody's else expectations. In same time there will be other 50% that can find partners by some reasons. So there's something to learn from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:12 PM
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I think there are more factors there in such case: You have to go an socialize. You aren't doing that in your country enough. There's specific kind of woman that are interested in foreigners, you won't meet those women in your country.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:05 AM
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There are similar chance for genuine desire, but you become good enough target for gold diggers instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:36 AM
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Yes, it is that difficult to ignore and you don't know if next attempt will be failure or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:11 AM
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It has nothing to do with looks. Incel is incel because of his behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:55 AM
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What. There are a lot of losers who have no significant issues with "getting a pussy" despite being debt-ridden addicts with nothing in their lives. Are you still in high school or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:27 PM
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Why do you care what all those pseudo-sapient creatures think in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:33 PM
2

By "people" you mean all that human-shaped talking gut microbiota?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:29 PM
1

Nobody outside of high school cares how much sex you have or if you have it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:19 PM
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A lot of people manage to have sex and relationships without focusing their entire lives on getting that by some reasons. Sex by itself isn't something that worth it. You won't be happy with life like that anyway. Just imagine some poor guy made dating app his second job, put shitton of efforts into it, somehow manager to get girl in the bed - and after that he'll be like "Is that it? That's the thing I've wasted so much efforts into?".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:06 PM
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Or he can just leave the dating apps. Focusing your entire life around finding women is kind of miserable by itself. Such behavior make you desperate and unattractive and all your efforts will go into waste anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:50 PM
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It's a great way to produce more incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:57 PM
0

You have to go and touch some grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:20 AM
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Attractiveness is relative and personal. Very small amount of men are actually unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:45 AM
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Sex isn't something you give, it's something you do. Sex and relationships aren't mutually exclusive, so answer is "none of those options".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:06 AM
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It's an excuse and you know that. If you used to do something then suddenly stopped - it isn't "trying".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:46 PM
3

Your post is exactly about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:47 PM
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Then somebody else will do that. There's no point to be in relationships with somebody who put half-assed efforts into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:31 PM
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At least it's better than wasting your one and only life on doing nothing just because it might make somebody uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:28 PM
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You supposed to think for yourself and behave in way that is good for you. Instructions are just suggestions, you must think critically about them. If you mindlessly follow what you were told then you're an idiot and deserve nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:31 AM
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But it isn't an identiy or label, it's who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:09 PM
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Your dating profile can be a much more complete picture of you as a person vs 20 seconds I'd say that opposite is correct. No dating profile will ever be able to show how you carry yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:06 PM
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There was time when I checked those places. I've got some attention from women there. But that wasn't kind of attention and kind of women I wanted, so I stopped. And being introverted is brain chemistry, you don't choose that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:31 PM
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Human nature didn't suddenly change and dating apps didn't find a way to transfer way you hold yourself and way you speak. And real life isn't limited by bars and clubs. And even under those conditions those 10-30 seconds in real life allow you to make far more impression than any dating profile ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:23 PM
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"Boys with high IQ" often have more interesting things to do than to chase girls. There's a good chance that they won't just go for first girl that shown them attention. You can have high IQ and high social intelligence at the same time. Those things are more correlated than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:01 PM
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No. You married a virgin, found that you're incompatible and then what. And good luck to stay in sexless relationships for long enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:05 AM
1

It depends on what kind of neighbors you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:58 AM
2

Can you stop this black pill crap? Life isn't a RPG with stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:56 PM
2

It's much easier to find somebody willing IRL. Because there are far more traits that make you attractive than dating apps can show.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:21 PM
2

Yes of course. Dating apps are useless exactly because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:17 PM
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No sane man is going to swipe hundreds of times for one match, at least not for long. So it's the same as being useless or not-existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:31 PM
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Doing that on dating apps is basically that. Swiping hundreds of times just to get one match that might not lead anywhere isn't "having options". That's why using those apps is dumb idea just by itself. You'll get your options only if you go and actually socialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:59 AM
2

Then lottery is a legit way out of poverty. Just buy more tickets.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:33 PM
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To get one one of those 2% you might need to swipe hundreds of times. It isn't what "having an options" really means. And getting a match is just a beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:34 PM
2

Attempts to induce sunken cost fallacy will backfire at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:05 PM
1

Just look for somebody who matches your pace.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:00 PM
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Shyness isn't something that put a hard block on your path preventing certain actions, it's a resistance that can be overcome. And masculinity is very broad term.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:59 PM
1

ROI is very much negative - zero dates and damaged self-esteem. NOT dating give you better ROI than dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:41 PM
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It's a black pill crap. I am one of those persons who had zero success on dating apps and good enough results doing it in person. Very limited part of what make you attractive can be expressed in numbers and then filtered, attractiveness is subjective. You or any other person have very limited knowledge what they actually find attractive. If those apps won't bring you any results then there's zero reason to use them, it's just waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:38 PM
1

Why should you open up to some strangers? And ignore issues that are important for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:25 AM
1

They have more demands and standards. So relationships will become a second job and you'll have to abandon things you like for sake of such relationships. It isn't something I want from relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:39 AM
1

This idea assumes that only men need relationships. Obviously you should avoid women that aren't interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:41 PM
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Why? On top of that there are special kind of women who basically hunt passport bros and use them for their own advantage. There are special courses just for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 09:45 PM
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Very low. I can't actually talk this way, only use is to find suitable time and place for an actual date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:09 PM
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Those are called "dumb childish games" and you should send those who play them back to kindergarten they ran from.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:27 PM
2

Except that you won't want to have relationships with most of those women. But having options to choose from would be great indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:53 AM
1

No idea when, I just don't remember. But I find it hilarious that people create so much issues out of thin air and then put heroic efforts to solve them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:43 AM
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I have far more interesting things to do with my life than being obsessed with woman I can't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:08 PM
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"Blue pill" has communication problems. Basically when you put "how to meet girls" into search you'll get a lot of manosphere ideas but close to zero progressive ideas. And a lot of progressive ideas have assumption that you understand what all of that means, often provided no detailed explanation. Like famous "just be yourself" that a lot of people totally misunderstand. Then after years and years of failed attempts they discover it and write post like they just discovered some fundamentally ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:03 PM
1

It might be, but it's for a man to decide where to go and where to spend money or spend it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:02 PM
2

One of the rules of cold approach is to not bother people in places they have to be, like stores.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:27 AM
0

Look - ecofashist!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:49 PM
4

You'll be blamed for destroying friendship and for having ulterior motives from very beginning. When you meet a woman you have a few hours, maybe a day to make decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:17 AM
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"Blue pill" doesn't exist. And those advices rely on some sort of assumed understanding. "Just be yourself" is a good advice if you understand what exactly it means. Problem is that there's assumption that you know it. Those who give such advice need to understand that if person need advice like that then they most likely have no idea what it means, so in need of more detailed explaination.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:54 AM
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No. I had a few female friends at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:25 AM
1

Are you sapient slime from depth of Mars tying to infiltrate human society?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:43 PM
1

Because why not. Why should you limit yourself with 20% if you can have 100%?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:00 AM
2

Most of those issues are self-inflicted and caused by lack of proactivity and laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:31 PM
1

Red flag isn't "run for your life" sign, everybody has one or two just by being a different person, you included. Just a sign that there might be an issue. But if somebody don't have visible red flags or other flaws means that they're hiding something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:18 PM
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You need to spend some time together to be sure that there's mutual interest of that kind. After that asking for sex directly works great.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:06 PM
1

You can leave and no amount of "sex isn't need" can change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:44 PM
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Hardest thing is to meet new people. Everything else is easy mode. Reading signals is easy, dating itself is easy, long-term relationships are trivial. Women usually find me attractive by some reasons. But finding somebody to meet first time just to check if there's any interest could easily take half of the year or more. And in most cases it won't go for more than one date because no mutual interest is found. Even creating my own friend group and being guy who organize everything and invite oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:28 AM
1

I was unfortunate enough to date a girl like that once. In retrospective I had to dump her much earlier than I actually did.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:32 PM
1

Absolutely not. I assume there are a few strange guys like that, but I can't imagine anybody actually choosing somebody like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:21 PM
1

You can leave anybody at any moment, nothing will stop you. You're supposed to stop caring what others will think about you at that age. You can significantly increase your chances by doing cold approach in right places and in right time, looking for signal that girl won't be against it. You can send your own signals of interest and check reaction. Approaching small group is easier than approaching just one single girl. I had more success with cold approach than on any app.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:56 AM
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That "good man" still need to know how to flirt and all of that. Being "good man" just by itself means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:09 AM
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You have to be interested in such man and you need a way to meet him. What are chances for you and him to meet in the first place? What are chances that he'll be interested in you or be in position to start relationships? There might be absolutely perfect woman for me, maybe more than one. But I have zero idea where and how to meet her and never had desire to focus my life on chasing women. So I go for "good enough" option because that's what I can actually get. If she isn't happy about it then …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:26 AM
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Why on earth would you marry someone who you believe is not the best thing ever Because you have limited time and other things to do. So you look for somebody who fit your "must have" list and some part of "nice to have". There's no way to know if relationships will work or not without actually trying. Sex is in "must have" list of course and you don't want asexual or low libido woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:08 AM
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Then you have to be perfect. Which isn't possible because "perfect" is different for each person. On top of that you need to be very proactive and not just sit here waiting for a man to just appear out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:45 AM
1

It is a primary motivation to approach women, yes. Doesn't mean that all and every interaction has such motives behind it. I very much fail to see what's wrong there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:22 PM
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It's a good advice IF you understand what exactly it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 03:12 PM
0

Nobody said about being passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:34 PM
4

You have brain to control what to do with all those desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:33 PM
9

And that's exactly what they call "just be yourself".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:39 PM
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It's very much incel/RP bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:40 AM
1

I'm afraid at this point you're talking with voices in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:45 PM
1

Where exactly I said that "lying is good"? Can you show me exact message?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:35 PM
1

A lot of possible reasons: - You can't say if you're going to commit or not until you dated for a while. - Why not, nothing else to do anyway. - Sex. Problems start if man start talking that he's going to commit without any desire to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:10 PM
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You just want guaranteed success in relationships. Like point on a man and expect him to obey you no questions asked. And playing "hard to get" is a good way to make sure than no decent man will stay with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:03 PM
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They aren't willing to commit to you in that period of time. Doesn't mean they won't commit to somebody else. Did you expect men to be some sort of thing that you buy in the store or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:00 PM
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But you can't measure attractiveness because it's subjective. You can't even measure different factors of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:39 AM
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You can't find somebody suitable without trying a few options. It's not like women are going to take initiative anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:22 AM
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It was called "pick-up artistry" back in the days.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:48 PM
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That's the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:58 PM
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If all all and every "tactics" were useless then redpill would not exist. Problem is that those works on very specific subset of women that aren't good for you. Which creates self-reinforcing cycle. Basic red pill stuff about respecting yourself is actually good up to the point where they reduce attractiveness to physical shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:52 PM
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Those aren't actual options anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:03 PM
4

Yes of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:52 AM
0

Yes, why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:11 AM
5

No need to fight feminism, men need to abandon their own gender role instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:27 AM
4

So, basically men must become biodrones with no their own will.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:14 AM
3

To be left alone you should not be in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:08 AM
6

It won't have any effect. Traits that make you attractive and traits that make you a good partners are completely unrelated to each other. And as a man you should not mold yourself for somebody's liking, ever. Nothing good will come from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:05 AM
4

No man in the world got into relationships because he know how to keep house clean. It's a good skill by itself, but have zero effect on your ability to find somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:58 AM
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A lot of those frustrated men have zero self-respect, so they're ready to deal with all sorts of humiliations. They should learn how to respect themselves instead. Like stop pursuing women that don't show reciprocity or stop believing in idiotic idea that men must do this or that just because they're men. Your existence is enough. Woman want you to do this or that? There's somebody else who won't. All sorts of woman's demands are her own problems, not yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:45 AM
10

What's wrong with sex? Why any normal guys should look for asexual woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:05 AM
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Letting people to find long term relationships isn't in OLD interest. And no self-respecting man will stay on those services for more than few days because experience of using this thing is humiliating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:55 AM
2

They usually skip most important parts assuming those are self-evident. Like what exactly most of those things means. Or when and how to take initiative. I had no idea what "just be yourself" even means in context of dating until mid 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:06 AM
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Point there is that not having a hobby or passion isn't your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:34 PM
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Not detachment, but definitely not being too attached too fast. So you won't chase somebody who has no interest in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:22 PM
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No, simple existence costs money and it isn't something you can just dismiss. If only way for you to make enough money to live is work a lot then you'll work a lot. It isn't a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:28 AM
1

What's the problem with sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:49 AM
8

Problem with "artificial wombs" is that somebody have to pay to raise the kid. And if government has money for that then it can just pay parents right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:36 AM
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Answer is very simple: it depends, you have zero control over it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:58 AM
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Why should it affect my interest in the first place? I'm failing to see connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:56 AM
1

It isn't that easy if you don't have opportunity to meet new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:19 AM
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Simping isn't something new. It always existed. It's zoomers who need to put everything into little boxes with labels on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:16 AM
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Absolutely, it was invented in second half of last century. This idea is base on idealized version of experience of small amount of people in very short and unique period of US history. So this so called 'transitional world" never existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:09 PM
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Based on nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:27 AM
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Idea that there's script that you can follow is very dumb. If you aren't living in some cave all alone all your life since birth then you definitely know from your own experience that there's no script for actual social interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:16 AM
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Historically, most women worked because that was only way to survive for most people. Stop taking those "traditional" fantasies seriosly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:07 AM
1

There's a problem: to learn how to speak to women you must speak to woman, and to that you need to date one. But you need to learn how to speak to them first somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 09:43 AM
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Answer is A, you can find somebody to have proper relationships with later.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 09:32 AM
2

But you have no idea what your actual preferences are. You might think that you're attracted to some traits just to find that you actually attracted to something else. And then find that exact same traits but with different person just don't click. Only way to know is to try and get out with a lot of people to learn what you actually want. So there's no dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:28 AM
2

You can use your own hand with exact same effect. AI robot "girlfriend" is just an expensive masturbator that can walk and make speech-like sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:23 AM
3

It is, but good luck finding what it actually means. That's the biggest issue with this advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:18 AM
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I wouldn't see it as opportunity because at that point I'd lost all interest in that girl and moved to somebody else. You had one chance, you wasted it, no way back.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:43 AM
1

Taking shower before data does exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:55 AM
1

Main problem with RP is that significant part of it correct and works. Then it used as a carrier for all conservative shit. And there's nothing comparable from "other side". Like nobody from "BP side ever bothered to explain what "being yourself" actually means, which is literally one of the most important things you need to do. So confused guy who has no idea how to find a girlfriend stumbles upon few attempts to follow good advises, finds RP, start following it and get some progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:22 AM
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Being religious is your own fault. There's no methods except try to meet as many new people as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:06 AM
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That's exactly what you said. Because when you try something first time there almost guarantee that you'll fail. So you shouldn't put serious efforts into that until you get good idea what's what.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:03 AM
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Point of that advice is that you shouldn't put dating and relationships at center of your life. It makes you desperate and unattractive. Relationships are bonus. Doesn't mean you need to ignore it and just wait for a girl to fall from the sky.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:39 AM
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But that's exactly what I mean. And you assume that you have to go with first option no matter what and have no right to try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:33 AM
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It does cause issues. Like choosing somebody who isn't good for you at all because you have no actual idea who you want to be with. You might have some ideas just to find that those ideas are bullshit. And you can do that relatively fast, so comparison with getting degree is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:23 PM
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But how do you know that you're right? I has thinking that I know that stuff until I tried to do something just to find that all my knowledge is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 01:08 PM
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It's much better to test your ideas and assumptions. I was dumb enough not to do that and that was a big mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:36 AM
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He might have no idea that women fall in love with him. Because women just don't show that. There's no legal obligation for a man to make move or pay attention to a woman if he doesn't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:07 PM
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No. Don't see a point, One of main reasons why I'm in long-term relationships is because I don't want to waste my time looking for other women. I've spend enough time on that already.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:20 AM
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There are few nice filters: - He includes her in his plans by his own initiative. - Includes you in his life, like you get to know his friends at some point. - There's some amount of awkwardness, especially beginning of relationships, he's far from being perfect. People aren't perfect and that lowers chances of him being a player that do and say exactly what expected of him. - Has his own life that isn't focused on getting laid. It includes having goals and ambitions. - Don't deliberately try to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:32 AM
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Too much internet and dumb ideas before trying anything. Because dating stuff in internet has a clear bias towards people who are unsuccessful. So reading that creates bias in those men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:38 AM
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A lot of young woman are dumb. Doing dumb things at that age is a good idea - you won't be able to do them later.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:35 AM
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Is there something that forbids you from doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:23 PM
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Think about it as "their" problem, not yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:28 AM
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It's just pure luck, to get casual sex you basically need to hang out around different women, talk to them and don't be blind. At some point you'll notice clear signs of interest and then you just need to respond. Your ability to meet new people is main limiting factor. If you don't understand woman's signs then you need to hang around them, you'll learn how to see those very fast. Just don't be focused on yourself. If you're focused on yourself then you lose your ability to notice other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:25 AM
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Friend zone doesn't exist, nobody can be put there. If you were told "no" (or weren't told "yes") and you still trying something then it's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:56 PM
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Those aren't deformations. Deformation is when your has been born with wrong-shaped leg for example. Or got burn on half of the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:08 AM
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If you don't have significant physical deformations then those are only possible reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:55 AM
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Having a lot of experience makes you good at dating and seducing and women want a man to be good at it. How to behave, how to talk and so on. Nobody want to ask how exactly man get that practice, what happened with women he got that practice with and why this case will be different. If you think rationally then begin good at dating must be seen as red flag: it means man dated a lot of women, relationships were short and he didn't commit to anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:13 AM
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Take a shower and stop talking about fall of roman empire.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:45 AM
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No idea actually. For me it always was random and unexpected.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:32 PM
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He's too serious about it. Or looking in wrong place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:19 PM
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Casual stuff is too short to actually feel anything. Women initiate those too sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:12 PM
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Those advice are useful, but given for wrong situation. Women usually don't experience same situations as men. As an example women usually don't need to be proactive, they just send signals and wait for somebody to catch them. So they'll give you good and working advice how to be more approachable and how to give better signals because that's what works for them. But that's useless for you because you have to be proactive, look for signals and approach. So greatest and most detailed advice about…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:39 PM
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You can play safe and be sure that you won't overstep any boundary. But it won't lead you anywhere. And you have exact zero idea how to behave outside that tiny safe zone. At very least you need to have idea how to approach other person. Problem is that you have no idea how.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:24 PM
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But if you know that your actions might make people around you uncomfortable then you supposed to avoid that. And you know that your awkward attempts to flirt will lead to shitty results, guaranteed. The most important: nobody cares if you know or not know how to do that, they'll watch your actions and see shitty man making women around him uncomfortable. And you personally most likely have no desire or intent to be somebody's training dummy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:16 PM
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To get started in such situation means deliberately getting women uncomfortable until you learn how not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:32 PM
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I've understood how to flirt only after I got married. Never had enough opportunities to learn it. I'd put "good at flirting" as a red flag - it means guy had a lot of opportunities to practice yet he's still single by some strange reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:06 PM
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So you need opportunities to practice it. But because your social skills are low most of your attempts to do anything lead to failure. Which means your social skills stay low, plus your self-esteem gets hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:00 PM
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Most of those problems need practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:55 PM
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Nobody want desperate person as a partner. That's the only form of privilege women have in such situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:57 AM
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I did at some point. I've learned to stop doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:16 PM
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Everybody knows what it means in any given situation or how to read environment and adapt to it. Your idea that it's possible to have some sort of clear written rules is wrong. Of course I can't give you clear explanation, nobody can. It's like trying to write clear instruction "how to walk" or "how to breath". You just know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:11 AM
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She won't be my ideal female partner then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:59 PM
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It's just some black pill bullshit. Objectively speaking your chance to staying single is very low. If you try anything then your chance to stay single is going down very fast. Only question is when you find somebody and how good for you that other person will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:42 PM
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It can't be described as some sort set of written rules. It's something that you were supposed to learn by communicating with other people when you were a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:37 PM
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I mean exactly what I said. Entire point is that there's no clear rules, those never existed and can't exist. Just not be socially retarded and you'll navigate it no problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:13 AM
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Don't be socially retarded then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:58 PM
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It wasn't dating, you didn't date anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:57 PM
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Clear rules never existed and attraction isn't magical, it's just outside of conscious control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 09:10 AM
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Meeting new people was the hardest part. You can't go on a date if there's nobody to ask out. Dates and relationships are trivial, finding people is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:21 AM
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There are only so much time and making good enough paycheck takes most of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:37 PM
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But if you can't offer a big enough cheque then nobody is going to see what else you can offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:21 PM
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There's false assumption that women care to look at men's profiles instead of swiping left. For men there's around 99% chance that you won't get match so why bother, waste of time. You'll look into profile once you matched with somebody. Dating apps are shit basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:03 PM
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But you don't need to diagnose somebody, you just need to know if that man is fine to date or not. Which is much simpler problem to solve.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:54 AM
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Problem with PUA is that they just teach you a few tricks that work on some women. They don't really teach you how to be more attractive. It's still good starting point, but going deep into it is a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:13 PM
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Anything is a valid dealbreaker, nobody is going to force you to stay in relationships you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:10 PM
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By some reasons men can spot other bad men with ease and then wonder why some women choose them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:09 PM
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It's harder for them but still possible. For basic stuff you can still observe people around you. Like you might notice that people walk on their two legs and don't bark on others. So you can easily deduct at least one social norm: to walk on two legs and not to bark on others. There are quite a lot of books on proper behavior. They can read them and practice. Nobody expect you to be perfect, so you do it in same way as everybody else: observe, learn, try, repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:26 AM
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It has nothing to do with awkwardness. Your brain have special neurons exactly to deduct those unspoken rules just from observation. People without those neurons have exact zero social awkwardness, they literally have no ability to feel it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:56 PM
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Ability to put yourself on place of other is called "empathy" and it's hard-wired in your brain. Even 2-3 years old kids can do that at some degree. There are special neurons that exist just for that. Lack of empathy means that you're dangerous psychopath. And math is relatively easy, a lot of things can be easily derived from first principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:35 PM
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It's just literal red pill painted with cheapest golden paint from Temu.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:52 PM
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It just make it harder, not impossible. Like you have to put some efforts instead of just absorbing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:48 PM
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Absolutely yes. Social skills aren't that hard. You can learn them just by observing people around you and asking "how would I react if somebody else do this or that". And based on that decide if what you're doing is suitable or not. If you're capable to go to shop and buy stuff without people calling police and running away from means that at very least you have some basic social skills already.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:42 PM
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But you can't be charismatic without having good social skills. It isn't some sort of RPG stat and people around you don't throw dices to decide how to react. Social skills are basically "how to behave for people not to run away from you, screaming".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:48 AM
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I think it's kind of easy to filter out most fuckboys. He's good at talking to women and there's no or very little friction, he knows very well what to say and do at any moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:53 AM
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But a lot of women won't. And there's no way to know that beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:46 AM
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Boundaries have tendency to change and sometimes you might push it too far. No way to know beforehand anyway. You won't get anywhere if you won't push boundary or two. It isn't only about relationships by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:41 PM
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Nobody know that because it isn't under conscious control. You you still have control over what to do with that attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:48 PM
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When boundaries aren't well defined and blurred and you go for something that might be on other side. Like you feel that it might be a good time to kiss and go for it. You might be right or might be wrong. You push and try to find where boundaries are actually located at this moment. In those situations if you try to make it clear in any other way (like asking "Can I kiss you") then you'll be seen as somebody who is indecisive or unable to read the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:46 PM
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Define what "pushing boundaries" even means. Trying to kiss somebody because you think/feel it's the right moment is pushing the boundaries for me. You literally can't move anywhere without pushing some boundaries there and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:12 PM
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That's crossing the boundaries, not pushing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:08 PM
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I have vibe that you're some sort of sapient slime from depth of Mars wanting to infiltrate human society and trying to get some sort of idea how humans work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:35 PM
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Not every place on the planet has that. And in case of any significant war nobody is going to ask for your consent - you either go or get punished.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:13 PM
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You should go outside. Limiting factor in process of looking for partners is lack of potential partners. If you aren't one of those turbo-extroverts but still go outside - you'll end with 3-5 new dates per year. Most of them lead to nothing. Just having a lot of potential first dates would be a lot of help.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:01 AM
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Did you hear words like "draft" and "mobilization"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:57 AM
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As a man you'll get punished hard if you don't want to go and die for some lunatics who happened to get in top of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:58 AM
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Any plan is calculated by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:47 AM
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Considering that I'm married for 10 years at this point - yes, it works great,
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:46 AM
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But there's no way to know that woman is interested in you in way you want if she doesn't show that. My first relationships were with a woman that said that she need time. So I gave her time just to find a year later that she have no interest in sex with me. And nobody is going to give me that time back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:38 AM
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Right conclusion from such behavior is "she doesn't like me" and right decision is "look for somebody else". There's no way to know what you're thinking. Good way to catch asexuals and men with low self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:13 AM
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And so? If relationships start with this shit then shit will never end.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:08 AM
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No enthusiastic sex after first few dates - she's out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:46 PM
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Somebody unremarkable who share my interests. Avoid all sorts of fancy and too confident men. Especially those who are good at dating. To be good at dating you have to have a lot of experience, which means you have no intention to commit. Lack of awkwardness is a significant red flag that women often ignore. Same as now. Yes, I have different list of things to avoid for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:46 PM
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So you tell me that I'm responsible for events in some third world shithole which I never heard of? It's a third world shithole, what else did you expect from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:27 AM
1

Do you understand that it's normal human behavior to put an effort into first impression? And you have to expect it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:25 AM
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Are you an alien from Mars or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:40 PM
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But then you won't find anybody. Of course you want to leave good initial impressing and go for 200% for some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:27 PM
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It's impossible to give more than 100% of yourself for any prolonged amount of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:27 PM
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Monogamous relationships are simple. So you have time and energy to do everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:06 PM
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No. Best approach is "friend you exclusively and regularly have sex with".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:13 AM
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People significantly overestimate how much experience you actually need and underestimate how low average level is. And there's no direct dependency between how much experience you have and how good or bad you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:17 PM
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Point here is that having small or non-exciting sexual history doesn't mean that somebody won't cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:17 PM
0

But do I need to notarize it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:35 AM
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Should it be provided as list or a table? Does that list need signatures from both parties? Is there some sort of procedure to change that list? Do I need to notarize it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:20 AM
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Every cheating turboslut was a virgin at some point. Think about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:06 AM
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Getting into a relationship also does not entitle you to any sex acts even if she has done it before. That is dehumanizing. She might not even like the act or it causes pain etc But you have no obligation to be or stay in relationships either, with or without reason, at any point. You can just leave relationships if there's no sex you want for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:03 AM
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Most people are mid, so it's good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 06:42 PM
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Can't deny that. But girl must meet quite a lot of expectations to get this title.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:28 PM
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No, unless you afraid of women or didn't bother to learn anything about sex beforehand. It isn't rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:13 AM
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They have no way to know unless asked. And after certain age there's an assumption that you have at least some experience. So you have to fuck up badly for such question to be asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:52 AM
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Did that at some point. It was nice. Got first on the server 25-men heroic Sindragosa kill before 4.0, back in WotLK.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:28 PM
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Stay away from idiots then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:18 PM
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No, there's an opportunity cost. Having casual sex means spending more time on it, so you won't spend time on things that make you successful. Sex is better and easier in good long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:12 PM
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You can just don't say that you're virgin unless asked. There's no way to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:03 PM
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You don't have glowing number floating above your head with number of sexual partners. Nobody know and nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:58 PM
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There's an assumption that you actually know your own preferences and can express it. You preferences might be your own fantasies about some sort of perfect partner, things that you supposed to want or anything else. So there's no point to care about somebody's stated preferences in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:44 PM
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People don't really understand what "just be yourself" even means. Your brain detects authentic behavior and might see that attractive, other people might be attracted to your authentic behavior. No need to pass tests, invent compliment strategies and do all sorts of bullshit. It's that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:47 AM
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At very least avoid everything that is convenient and packed, look for raw ingredients and cook it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:55 AM
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If you want nice and healthy food then it's you who put an effort, not the food.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:25 AM
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If food is in convenient form then most likely isn't healthy. Easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:57 PM
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There's plenty of healthy food in a grocery store, you just need to know where it is and to put an effort to cook it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:55 PM
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I see dating as a completely one-sided decision that comes from women alone. It's not, because man can just say "no".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:21 AM
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You can talk to a wall with exactly the same effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:38 AM
1

You can't date AI, it isn't a person. In best possible case in the future not so far away you'll be able to get woman-shaped talking masturbator.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:15 AM
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Simplifying is almost impossible. And there are only so many things I'm passionate about. At least there are enough women who really love to talk. You just need to actively listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:53 PM
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They usually say that they can't understand what half of the words I use means.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:31 PM
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No. There are more than enough disadvantages of being woman. I very much prefer being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:07 PM
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No. I don't cheat and I don't meet those conditions. Cheating would create more problem than it worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 04:42 AM
1

There's no need to know "the truth", you just need a model that gives you good enough predictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:45 PM
1

So as a man if you should leave once you see significant amount of asymmetry in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:00 AM
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I think you're answering to your own voices in the head right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:58 AM
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You might not become a CEO, but you'll improve your life anyway. And you'll get more or less good understanding why you can't become a CEO. Dating don't give you any feedback except that you failed by some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:16 PM
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But to focus on somebody's personality you have to at very least talk to that person. You'll do it only if you already have some sort of interest. Without knowing other person and already existing reason to talk only way to get such interest is looks. So to focus on personalities and character you need women to take initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:26 PM
1

At very least woman will be proactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 04:15 AM
1

If something doesn't work then usually you can identity what is the problem and then change your behavior. Maybe change goals if current is unreachable. But you still get results, Problem with this approach with dating is that you have no idea what's wrong. I've managed to find some explanation how dating actually works few years after I've decided to totally abandon idea of having a girlfriend. Idea was trivial but I had no way to come to it by myself. It worked really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:11 PM
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"If I put in effort, I will get results" is a thing that works perfectly in any other field. Of course you'll use it for dating. And then it leads to frustration "Seems like I'm doing something wrong and I have zero idea what". And then you look at fact that people around you are capable of getting in relationships which leads you to only possible conclusion "something is very wrong with me". And you have zero idea what's wrong with you so you have no way to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:46 PM
1

Not everybody is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:38 PM
1

Somebody told them those things and they had no reason not to believe. So problem is basically that there's no good information about how dating and relationships actually work. And to learn it by yourself you still need some sort of starting point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:55 PM
1

Ask them, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 07:39 PM
14

There's no "blue pill ideology", it's some sort of chimera invented by red pill to describe anything that isn't red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:17 PM
1

In some places in the world accusing somebody in a serious crime knowing that it's a lie is a crime too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 08:05 AM
30

"Listening to advice" and "listening at all" are two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 02:09 PM
1

Suck to be you then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 04:39 AM
3

Once cheater always a cheater. Fact that she didn't cheat to you only means that it will happen at some point in the future. If you have a partner that you aren't happy with then leave them first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:47 AM
1

Don't go on a date with a woman that don't want to go on a date. It's waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:44 AM
2

Worrying about not messing it up means you already messed it up and nothing will follow. You have to enjoy the process to have any actual chances. Best way is to go with some sort of YOLO attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:41 AM
1

Those men don't stay on "dating market" for long and/or don't return there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:35 AM
1

Some people just aren't photogenic. You can't really do anything about it and wasting money on something like dating app is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:16 AM
1

For me easiest way to get sex was to be nice, honest and ask for it directly. I think that's the opposite of red pill ways. In same way I don't think that so called "blue pill" exist. It's just word that describe "things that exactly opposite to red pill" invented by manoshpere.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:53 AM
1

Being upset is good. It forces you to rethink what are you doing, change behavior and be more assertive. I assume nobody told those guys that their own desires are important too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:53 PM
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You can and must call those kinds of women "kids" (because that's who they are) and avoid them. Obviously there are a lot of normal women around, they just aren't visible in social networks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:24 PM
2

You can't have relationships without compromises. Like at all, ever. Other person will never be what you want them to be. Basically it's an equivalent of "just stay single". Not that I against that idea, some people are better this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:39 AM
2

I won't be surprised if that bait was directed in collaboration with MRA activists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:44 AM
2

I almost never thought about it. It needs no actual efforts, you just spend time together because you like other person and it keeps relationships going.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:34 PM
2

It's easy, almost trivial.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:15 PM
15

Putting any actual attention to instagramm stuff is a clear sign of retardation and person must go and visit a doctor about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:36 AM
10

That narrative is obviously false and average PPD user never meet any woman in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:31 PM
3

Quite a lot of men are fine with waiting. Problem happens if you start to expect something that you didn't select for. Waiting for sex select for asexual and low testosterone guys, so there's a big chance that they won't be that interested in sex later. Same works in opposite direction. If woman don't show that much interest in sex then there's a big chance that she won't be interested in it later.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:55 AM
1

Then said women go into r/DeadBedrooms to cry. You get what you look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:33 AM
4

Why? Sex is fun and you only have so much time to enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:31 AM
1

Just look for asexual guys or be content with friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:18 AM
3

Been there, done that. Problem is that you might not want club girls and outside of those places nobody is going to grind their asses against you to show interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:26 PM
4

In most cases compliment from women means nothing. It's just a compliment. So you kind of supposed to just sit there and wait for a girl to fall from the sky?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:10 AM
1

Women who go to the bars/clubs might not be women you want. Even if you get that kind of attention there..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:29 AM
1

You have no idea who has "genuine desire" beforehand because women don't show that. And that desire might develop later. Just sitting there and waiting for a girl to fall from the sky is kind of dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:22 AM
4

Most women will never do that. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:20 AM
3

I would use it. At very least it gives me opportunity to meet new girls. Meeting new girls is a bottleneck and hard part of dating. And keeping relationships is trivial.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:48 PM
1

It's kind of fun. Exactly because you have no idea where it's going. You can get anything, from simple rejection to relationships or having sex few hours later.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:43 AM
2

Most people don't use dating apps. Online doesn't mean dating apps only.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:30 AM
1

Not changing your behavior if you can't get what you want to get what you want is literally retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 11:03 AM
1

You filtered them all out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:22 AM
9

As a result you change you behavior to be more successful. So those things become something you can't actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:16 AM
1

Men you want to find aren't on dating apps. They might use for a week or two, find it infuriating and useless, then leave for good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:23 PM
1

Far too many despeare losers and a lot of women just run away from those shitholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:13 PM
1

Problem with dating apps is that those things filter for specific subset of photogenic players and for desperate losers with infinite free time. Basically dating apps are totally useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:08 PM
1

I just looked for things that I want, not things I supposed to look for. Basically I wanted somebody who share my interests and love sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 05:36 PM
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That's why waiting until marriage is dumb. You have no way to know what's out there and what you want until you try.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 05:32 PM
4

It should be obvious. Only thing you can see about other person is photo and few lines of text. No way to see anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 02:25 PM
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But men that are controlled by their sexual desires are very much useless. Men that worth anything can't be controlled like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:50 AM
1

You don't need that much time to find that you're desirable and learn how it feels like. I'd say be desirable will be normal thing for you. Why waste more time once you found that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:39 PM
1

All of that has opportunity cost. Time you spend on chasing skirts is time you didn't spend on something more useful long-term. You don't need a lot of time to check if you're attractive or not and check what dating and relationships are about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:24 PM
3

Online dating is fundamentally different and select for specific kind of shitty people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:11 PM
2

Being proactive. That's what people do when they want something. Opposite is true too - not being proactive means that you aren't that interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:47 PM
1

Just think about it. He's smart, patient and basically took entire galaxy solo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:34 PM
1

My male role model is Emperor Palpatine since childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:19 PM
3

Yes, it is more or less a direct quote from real situation. After getting that second time I've decided that only kind of relationships I can find aren't relationships I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:45 PM
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There are quite a lot of cases when girl says something like "you'll be a good husband so I won't date you". It makes you feel like shit and implies that "husband material" isn't somebody women actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:07 AM
1

Easy. Being insecure about something is normal. So you don't make a drama out of it. Idea that you must be perfect just to have relationships is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:33 PM
1

Simp doesn't have a parthner. That's the point of being a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:32 PM
1

I can just ignore those women and not deal with them. No point to waste my time on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:10 PM
1

But those bitter men remove themselves from your potential dating pool by moving themselves on other side of the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:17 AM
1

People just aren't that good at understanding other people. Even when you speak directly it might be easily misunderstood. All sorts of non-verbal signals are much worse. Things that obvious for you aren't obvious for others. And you usually have other and more important things to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:27 PM
1

"If a woman doesn't fuck me as soon as possible, then she doesn't find me attractive and I'm wasting my time." It is. Dating has opportunity cost. When you're on a date you aren't doing something else. If something else is more important for you then why should you waste your time on dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:44 PM
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A lot of men aren't doing anything to be attractive, it's that easy. And they literally ignore that. Like who said that being angry muscular guy is attractive? Those dudes are scary, it's better to stay away from them for your own safety. And so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:32 AM
1

Dating will be better once people adapt to new reality. Only those who can't or don't want to change have problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 03:11 PM
1

Most important thing is that those traits are arbitrary. Somebody at some point decided that this trait is masculine and that trait is feminine without any actual reasons. Like there are places in the world where cooking is considered masculine thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 03:08 PM
2

No. Robot for house work is a good thing. But it can't be a partner because it's a robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 09:41 AM
1

Maybe those are different groups of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 03:30 PM
4

Usually you don't want to deal with somebody who wants to remove your rights or see you as evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:27 PM
0

Problem there is that "blue pillers" just like "blue pill" doesn't exist. Opposition to "red pill" is not a "blue pill" but "don't be supid asocial loser and do something with your own life".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 11:53 AM
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I don't think that "don't be dumb asocial loser" can be considered as high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:24 AM
0

Around 30. If you at very least didn't try anything just to check what's it all about at that age then you don't really need relationships or have some sort of serious problems that you had to fix years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:04 PM
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