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DebateOk-Principle-3785/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:00 PM
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again, you are not entitled. get off the internet, touch grass. stop being a loser. bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:32 AM
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calm down
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:31 AM
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what could you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:28 AM
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you can change that, it isn't a vaild excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:26 AM
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ahaha, as if I owed you an answer, and you get to say that I'm wrong. Bitch, no one care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:25 AM
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Rape victims, figure out what type of help you want. Why is it my responsibility to prevent you from being raped? You're responsible for your own safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:25 AM
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Unless you're going to give me complete, easy to follow, realistic instructions for how to get the right kind of woman to fuck me and be in a relationship with me, then don't tell me "eww, no one wants you because you do X."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:24 AM
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Oh? What exactly did I need to do for a woman GOOD woman to fuck me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:22 AM
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they can learn, it's basic cognitive behavioral therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:22 AM
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Maybe you could sex coach incels? You could have sex outside of your relationship for a good cause. If your husband won't accept that then you probably need a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:21 AM
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It isn't on me to figure it out, it's on women, or on them to accept the consequences of their actions. You could set up your single female friends with incels, for example. You can't predict the future, so maybe they'll be a good match? Why would you prevent people from trying? That goes against basic human decency, but, okay, if you want to choose to be a bad person then that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:21 AM
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Plenty, I'm all for helping refuges.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:19 AM
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Why do you think personal attacks are appropriate when it is clearly against the rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:18 AM
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It's more than "dudes get laid," but be in romantic relationships with them, instead of soft harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:18 AM
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basic human decency
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:17 AM
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What are you doing for the incels you don't consider incels? Fuck them, they can suicide for all you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:06 AM
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The world will be a better place when women learn to be attracted to a larger range of men. It is very easy for women as their sexuality is fluid. It is not as easy, or even possible, for men, so it logically should fall to women. Tons of women are like "my husband isn't a 'Chad,' but I learned to love him." Perfect! There really isn't much difference between your "amazing" husband and the typical incel. You just need to learn the proper framing and it is something that women can learn. I'm prop…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:05 AM
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Q4W: What are you doing to help the incels get a life (they consider) worth living? You don't like them? Fine! What are you doing to give them a better option than being incels? You don't care that they're incels? Fine! Don't complain when they do or say something you don't like. Every choice is a choice, and if you choose to abandon people through inaction, doing through inaction doesn't make you any less culpable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:02 AM
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The violence women perpetrate on men is staggering and mostly unacknowledged. It's really terrorism and murder, but it's most often called "suicide." Women and dating are the biggest proponents of "suicide." I don't encourage suicide, but it's totally understandable how, given the way that women treat men these days, the extreme and ever increasing exploitation, the biggest difference between what women are doing to young men today and what terrorists did on 9/11 was that burning to death in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:59 AM
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You want to point me to the part of Reddit TOS that says that, bud? Two 17 year olds fucking each other is them sexualizing each other. It is a fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:59 AM
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Why not make peace with rape? It isn't really rape if you learn to enjoy it. I think that could work!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:58 AM
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There are tons of incels who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:57 AM
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It would sour a friendship for me, even without attraction. Haha, we could never be in a relationship, you're so annoying about X, Y, Z, haha, that why you'll never be more than a low tier friend. You can help me move, but I won't invite you to my wedding, haha. I know I'd question what I'm getting out of that kind of friendship. Often romantic relationships are best friend + sex. So there's definitely over lap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:57 AM
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I think incels are men who frequent incel communities. I'm not talking about those incels, I'm talking about the other ones
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:23 AM
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What about the nice incels who don't do any of that stuff, but just wants success?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:22 AM
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All sorts of things, let's experiment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:20 AM
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Which rule? Show me where Reddit says you can't discuss age of consent? What if I want the age of consent to be higher? Then could we talk about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:07 AM
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what if what we now consider as kids wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:36 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:28 AM
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No, no, not, me for other people. To benefit society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:28 AM
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What do you guys think about lowering the age of consent? I don't really see a big problem with dropping it down to 17 and then seeing how it goes. What do you guys think?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:23 AM
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then lets make the supply bigger
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:20 AM
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Can you define "who" I wouldn't date? Whoever you consider an incel. Also, sure, I won't divorce my husband just to prove something to an online stranger. If you could be happy being alone you would be indifferent, so you're proving that you can't be happy alone, which proves you're toxic in your relationship due to your insecurity, which means you're hurting your husband and yourself, which means you should get divorced. Or, your husband should divorce you. Lame excuse after lame excuse ... I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:20 AM
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They're not a monolithic group. Not all of them are being mean to you. Presumably you want a romantic relationship with a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:53 PM
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So they didn't say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:52 PM
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This'll make a great story at family gatherings years from now, about how you met your son in law.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:52 PM
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Then why do you care that I don’t empathize with lonely men? I don't, but it would probably be good for you to try fucking some of them every once in a while. Why are you here crying in my replies? I'm not, for example
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:51 PM
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show me where the reddit admins. say it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:30 PM
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if the age of consent was lowered it would not be statutory rape though, and since 16 can have sex with 16, it isn't as if any sex with anyone automatically is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:26 PM
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you're entitled to your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:25 PM
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your "kids"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:25 PM
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Those delusional hateful fucks can’t stop snarking on FAW, What specifically is so offensive, "hateful"? Why does it bother you? I don't see why you should care. and read the r/ForeverAloneWomen and their experiences with incels harassing them. No thanks, I have better things to do. You do your research, otherwise, I'm happy to leave it at that. Why the fuck do I need to tip toe around the fact that I’m female? Then don't but I almost never have a good reason to have to mention my gender. They’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:21 PM
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Why? Says who? What if I want to advocate for a higher age of consent? About decriminalizing weed?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:07 PM
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are your girls single? give me the oldest one's phone number and email.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:02 PM
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but is it "violence", or a violation of any rules, here or reddit wide?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:02 PM
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Nah, they're dogshit, Really? How well do you know all of them? but behind the veil of anonymity they are. Your gripe is that people say mean things on the internet, is that it? You can't spew the typical incel vitriol online AND be a decent enough man... WTF are you talking about? Bro, not all incels believe the same things. Most simply want to have a decent life but get shit on by pretty much everyone in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:57 PM
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When all you're doing is saying "nuh-uh!" like that I don't take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:53 PM
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Lies and victim delusions. Sorry honey, no one has to follow your rulings about who and who is not a victim. always a some “lonely” loser male there to tell disregard my feelings just because I’m female. poor baby You do realize you don't have to ... tell anyone you're a woman, right? Even when I go to places meant specifically for lonely women you incels still seek us out to troll and ridicule us. Where? I'd like to see for myself. The femcels subreddit has been private for years. there's alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:48 PM
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I bet they live in Canada too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:31 PM
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Is arguing for a lower age of consent considered advocating for "violence" on reddit? if you're fucking them once the age of consent has been lowered it would be a crime, technically.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:31 PM
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I'm married, so, sure, I wouldn't date them. Just as I wouldn't date any man who isn't my husband. Cop out. You wouldn't have dated them when you were younger. Also, what are you going to do if your husband decides to divorce you? Forever single? Couldn't ever date another person? That's way too much pressure to put on your husband. It isn't fair to him. You should be single until you can learn to be happy single. The fact that you won't divorce your husband proves you can't be happy being singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:30 PM
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haha, do you think I pay reddit per each keystroke?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:15 PM
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Oh get over yourselves. I already am? wtf are you talking about. They go out of their way to bother and insult other people Who? Where? How? What? You don't have the right to not feel insulted. No one is obligated to tip toe around you so that your precious feelings not get insulted. Racists feel insulted when you point out their fucked up beliefs, but that's a good thing. They're banned and driven out of nearly every online platform and have zero IRL presence. even when they’re minding their bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:43 PM
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Most aren't "dogshit human beings," they're just easy targets for demonization, and you aren't entitled to much politeness when you're an anonymous person on the internet who can just .. not read it if you don't want to. The reality is that you probably know a few incels that you see as decent enough men, you just don't know that they're incels because they don't tell you everything about their sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:23 PM
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Were you going to date them if they had been nicer? You never would, so they don't have much reason to hold back, esp. while on the internet. How were you treating them? Were you being nice? That kind of tone policing wouldn't be tolerated if women were the target. Why are all these shrill women whining? Finally, lots of people either get trolled, or choose to act like incel trolling is serious for their own reasons. You need to remember that incels make a game of trying get other people believe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:05 PM
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at the same time, these women rail against other prejudices
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:52 PM
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these aren't the smartest people, they have a long track record of working against their own self interests
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:49 PM
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I don't think they should stay single, ... it's just that I wouldn't date them I'd never introduce them to any available woman I know I don't event want to be friends with them they make me feel uncomfortable, I wish they'd stay away from me I believe they're violent and crazy, and we need to tightly control them in order to prevent any potential violence, better safe than sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:44 PM
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Is arguing for a lower age of consent considered advocating for "violence" on reddit? if you're fucking them once the age of consent has been lowered it would be a crime, technically.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:37 PM
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why not just tell me? you make tons of pointless comments all the time. you could have just told me in that comment right there. are any of them sluts?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:34 PM
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not really, you aren't important to me. it's like ... like I'm watching a rabbit try to cross a road, and get struck by a car. you're the rabbit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:32 PM
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How old are your girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:31 PM
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you're not as funny as you think you are. you enjoy shaming people. Hey, how old are your imaginary daughters? If younger than 18, when do they turn 18? Any of them attracted to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:29 PM
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Something like it could be done honorably, but, yeah: you're supposed to be nice to your family, and dumping your kids on them isn't very nice. I don't see what the problem with volunteering you for free child care is, why are you so angry? hha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:20 PM
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ohh, you're just a bully, you like kicking down. I see, sorry, my mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:32 PM
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Women make better employees because they're more docile, easier to control. I'm talking on average here, it's an overlapping bell curve. Men will ask for more, look for other opportunities more frequently. Men drive a harder bargain so they are more expensive. As an employer, if you can find a woman who can do the work then she will be a more profitable employee.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:28 PM
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so they choose to selfishly have a kid to post on social media for validation. I think a lot of it has to do with assuming friend/family/other will help you fill in the gaps, entitlement, basically. Personally, I would be uncomfortable having a child without being reasonably certain I'd be able to give them decent-ish support. I'd feel terrible brining a child into this world for them to have a shitty life, I'd want to give them a chance to succeed. I also think it's rude to impose on your frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:25 PM
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If that's how you seriously feel then you're a pathetic loser, I'm sorry. There are more important things to care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:25 PM
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ohh, you aren't engaging in good faith, got it, my mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:02 PM
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don't tone police. if you don't want to see my comments then just block me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:01 PM
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Dallas Bro it's not actually my problem if you can't get sex. Do you believe that consistency is a virtue? If you don't care about being a hypocrite then I don't have much of an argument, but I think most people reject hypocrisy, so I'm assuming you're the same in that respect. People might apply the same logic to the issues you care about, so are you sure you really want to go down that road? Sexual assault? Abortion? Anything else? What'll be your opinion then? 1 try harder to get sex, 2 keep …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:00 PM
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I don't dismiss the idea of a God existing Neither do I, there's just no reason to believe in any particular deity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:26 PM
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Are you? I'm 41.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:11 PM
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Yes, there are women who date men that make less, but the majority of women require a partner that makes more. For real, and they're shooting themselves in their foot with their "standards." If you're a high performing corporate lawyer - or something like that - all else equal, career-wise, you'd be more compatible with a man who has a less demanding career. Middle school art teacher is what comes to mind. They complement each other. Instead, most women are going to only consider men who make as…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:59 PM
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We all know you're full of shit. Did you think we didn't know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:24 AM
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Not that I know of. You give yourself the burden of backing up your claims when you make your claims. Arguments from ignorance carry zero weight with me. You seem so confident that this prostitute wants to fuck me .. .who is she? How could you be that confident yet not know these basic details? Sounds like you're full of shit to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:23 AM
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You won't immediately crash if you take your eyes of the road when you're driving too, but I wouldn't recommend anyone try it too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:21 AM
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It’s less about truth and more about the act of performing a shared ritual in a community. Everyone is down with pretending their BS is actually true until you realize you've all been drinking mercury, but by that point it's too late to do anything about it. And yeah, we have to accept the role of nature in our biology. We are indeed, only human. The conclusions you want to draw from that do not follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:20 AM
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Women have been systemically oppressed in the past by laws that men have not been. Like someone else said: victim mentality. The past is not now. Now is now. Not similar at all Very similar, and no one is obligated to adopt your personal arbitrary cut-offs. Men are more than meat bags at the mercy of women. Sure, if but at that point you're trying to justify rape, which is a violation of Reddit TOS. If we assume that rape is prohibited then your point falls flat on its face. Men who choose suici…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:18 AM
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Many are mutually exclusive, but ever of those that aren't, not one can be substantiated. It would be very big news if it could, but it can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:13 AM
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Did you expect us to assume the BS you write on the internet was the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:12 AM
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so?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:11 AM
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Atheists still believe in religions. No, that's not what those words mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:10 AM
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That's a cop out, of the "too vague to have any belief about" variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:10 AM
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Not religious, but there is so much wisdom and knowledge in religion. And mountains of bullshit too, but if you're going with "it's the word of God, we have to follow it, our hands are tied" then you don't get a choice to only take the good bits. If you only want the good bits then just admit to yourself that it's almost certainly just stories that humans have collected over the years, and that there's no reason to believe the metaphysical "lore" truth of it. Much of these revelations and enligh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:09 AM
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Who? How do I contact her? What is she like? How much will it cost? You aren't offering me anything useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:05 AM
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Sharing religious beliefs / rituals has been shown to be beneficial towards working on shared goals. You'd have to be able to see a fuller picture of truth than what anyone could see to be able to actually know, but if you have to know the whole truth to be able to make the right decision about choosing to lie to yourself or not, it's a moot question at that point. So, every time you lie to yourself because you think lying to yourself makes you better off, you can know for certain that you do no…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:04 AM
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One must abandon childish fantasies if one is to evolve. You have your brain to listen to all of your problems, and it's better than a sky daddy who refuses to intervene in your life. At least your brain has the tiniest chance of maybe being able to do something about it, unlike your imaginary friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:59 AM
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There are about 200 "major" religions in the world, depending on how you want to count it. Religious people say that 199 of them are wrong, so they're so very close to being atheist. All they have to do is reject one more bullshit fantasy. How hard is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:58 AM
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it can be if you're willing to step away from your fantasy life
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:56 AM
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Do you take your imaginary children to their imaginary school?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:51 AM
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Don't try to justify and promote violence, you're violating Reddit TOS.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:49 AM
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The minute you start blaming women on masse for male suicide Men are blamed on masse for the problems of women all the time. You don't get to have it both ways. Characterizing the harm as "male suicide" is misguided. It is called that but it isn't that. The most accessible way I can think of explaining it is how it would be wrong to classify the 9/11 WTC "jumpers" as committing suicide: they were murdered by terrorists. That was a special case where their remaining lifetime was particularly shor…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:48 AM
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I'm angry at the entitlement of someone who does not live in an overcrowded home with Can you hear yourself? Sure bud, you win the trauma dick measuring contest, congratz. to think their particular problem of not finding anyone who wants to be with them is the be all end all of suffering. I never said "be all end all of suffering." That is you assuming I said things that I didn't, because you have a chip on your shoulder. You might benefit from therapy, good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:44 AM
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I don't see how any sane adult could believe in religion, like any of the major religions. The intelligence to recognize that it's bullshit is a very low bar. If you can't see that then I don't see how you are able to get around in the US these days and haven't gotten yourself killed over several years. The only possibility that I could see where someone is not a complete dumbass is if they like the aesthetic, use the excuse to hang out with people you like, and see the bible - or whatever - as …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:41 AM
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imaginary wife doesn't count
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:34 AM
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again, it all depends on how you define "compatible."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:30 AM
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Is that how you want to be treated when it is the people you see as victims?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:28 AM
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Did you read my comment? Depending on what it was, they might not want to be friends with you if they knew the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:27 AM
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If my "friend" thinks my personality is so shitty, depending on what it was, it would make me reevaluate whether I want to be friends with them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:13 AM
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Men wouldn't want to be friends if they knew you felt incompatible as a partner to them? Some, I know I would, depending on what it might be. When a LTR is your best friend + sex + combining finances, then yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:07 AM
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Screw you for thinking that suicide is about being able to score. I never said it was. You're projecting. I'm more talking about a long, satisfying sex life with a loving partner, starting a family, good LTR, etc. Why do people immediately go to "getting laid once is no big deal"? You're getting angry at yourself, not what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:05 AM
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It's increasingly common, and I know some women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:03 AM
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oh shit, you're one of those IT losers
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:43 AM
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I'd imagine that they probably wouldn't want to be friends with you if they knew how you really felt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:41 AM
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No, they'll just lobby for the government to force men to pay for their lifestyles; effectively, they'll steal from the men who they saw as too poor to be worth having children with. No, here's how it'll work: these women will opt for having children as single mothers they'll ask for more social benefits, it's for the sake of the children after all the increasing social benefits handed out to single mothers will be disproportionately paid by the taxes of single men, because no one gives a shit a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:37 AM
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The violence women perpetrate on men is staggering and mostly unacknowledged. It's really terrorism and murder, but it's most often called "suicide." Women and dating are the biggest proponents of "suicide." I don't encourage suicide, but it's totally understandable how, given the way that women treat men these days, the extreme and ever increasing exploitation, the biggest difference between what women are doing to young men today and what terrorists did on 9/11 was that burning to death in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:33 AM
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My partner and I yikes, it doesn't count if it's a body pillow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:20 PM
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are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:52 PM
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is rape a bad thing? should we give up on trying to make less of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:49 PM
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What discussion is there to be had about wanting less rapes? idk dude, you tell me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:46 PM
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not just more easily accessible, but yes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:45 PM
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Prostitution isn't even anywhere close to being a viable option to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:44 PM
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she might be a woman, there are plenty others, you can do your own research
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:44 PM
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I mean why you're angry with women advising you to go to prostitutes when you think that unless a woman pays for her husband 100% she's a prostitute anyway? Because I'm not angry about that? No idea where you're coming from, you make zero sense. Why wouldn't I do what I want? Maybe it's time for you to take a break from the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:43 PM
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no, you're shaming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:41 PM
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no, we don't have to accept the current state of the world as fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:41 PM
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what is the argument for taxing women more than men? It helps you get a differential so that men can use the subsidization to pay prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:38 PM
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were you implying something?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:33 PM
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yes, I'm "okay with hoes"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:32 PM
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You replied to a comment that seemed more about binge drinking than a single drink. The fact is, more sex happens at parties, from bar encounters, and at clubs. If both parties are equally inebriated, then who is raping whom? I mean, if you own a bar, sure, that's what you want people to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:27 PM
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I've never seen it, but ok dude, you're right ...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:48 PM
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That is why I prefer to check sexual compatibility relatively early, say, within the first month. The less flexible things should be checked sooner than other things, at least it seems reasonable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:52 PM
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Man here, I can't answer your question because I'm not in that category, I don't believe that thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:49 PM
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There is no contradiction to resolve. Why bother doing anything, ever? Presumably, people do things because they want to. Most adults understand this. It isn't rocket science. How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:47 PM
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You don't seem interested in a good faith conversation, good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:45 PM
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Literally this comment right here, for example: How about dudes just work an extra shift to pay for a hooker?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:43 PM
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You're just trying to not-so-subtlety shame men. Haha, make more money, loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:41 PM
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k? all I was saying was that it isn't clear whether short term or long term "girlfriend" prostitution is the more affordable option. It's entirely possible for neither to be affordable enough to be realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:39 PM
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We aren't talking about replacing sex with you, we're talking about replacing sex with reasonably average or higher attractive women. $20 may be cheap, but you're wrong due to proposing something that doesn't fix the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:38 PM
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no, I'm asking why you think $250/hr is the right price point. Say a man's "I'm getting 100% of my sex" goal four times a week: given income distribution in the US, a $1,000/week habit is not realistic for most men. However, we have options that can help us change the supply and demand curves in ways we find desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:34 PM
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See, you just have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:30 PM
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Hard to say, since financial divorce "rape" is also a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:30 PM
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I think $250/hr is about as reasonable as it gets in the west. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:29 PM
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Yes, but prostitutes aren't fully replacing/substituting for a "normal" girlfriend. Like, he might be paying three times as much for one fifth of the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:27 PM
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Other than a few obvious exceptions - i.e., when the woman 100% financially supports her husband - it's prostitution any way you cut it. You pay one way or another, and various factors make one form verses other forms more desirable. These are fairly obvious things, so I don't see a need for me to explain in more detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:25 PM
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Did you think I needed you to agree with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:21 PM
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Remember folks, the women who tell you if prostitutes are too expensive then make more money, loser their real goal is to shame and blame you. The US would be a lot better if we allowed much greater immigration of young women from poorer countries taxed women more than men, keeping the marginal income tax rates for both genders in a progressive income tax arrangement That way, by changing supply and demand factors, prostitution rates might decrease to the point where it starts becoming a realist…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:20 PM
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*effectively zero
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:09 PM
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I fail to see the contradiction
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:09 PM
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It sounds like you're advocating for something that is borderline - or actual - rape. Really? If it really was that simple they would have been doing it already.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:08 PM
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50-year-olds are still arguably creepy for pursuing 21-year-old women Wait, did you think your opinion on what is creepy matters to anyone beyond yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:03 PM
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... yes, which is why it was unreasonable to suggest it in the first place, but even worse is how, in many ways, it isn't an option for anyone. That "certain kind of person" is a collection of characteristics with a population of zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:00 PM
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Great! We agree that you said nothing of practical value.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:55 PM
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Yeah I have heard that they vet John's before they agree to meet. Yes, one of the many nuances that make it more complicated than might be assumed from the outside. Yes ma'am, before I commit a crime, here's all of my identifying information so you'll be able to blackmail me if you ever want to. Having sex with escorts won't make men feel truly desired, It isn't really a viable option even if all you want is good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:54 PM
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very well reasoned, you've changed my mind
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:51 PM
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You're not making much sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:50 PM
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You're responding to my response to someone who told me to go back to the suicide watch subreddit. So, right, on this one, the thing I was responding to wasn't a coherent argument, so there was no reason for me to make one either. Most women don't know what they're talking about when they suggest prostitution. If you're still not seeing a coherent argument then that's your problem. Maybe you have unrealistically high expectations for reddit, I don't know. It isn't like my argument is incoherent …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:49 PM
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That comparison isn't relevant. Sure, I'll go along with you, that your statement is true: that truth does nothing to address the problem at hand. Yes, option B is easier than option A, but option B is prohibitively expensive so neither is a viable solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:44 PM
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only in a way that is of little practical help
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:40 PM
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and there's like, regular hookers who charge 250-500 per hour, some that can charge $1000, ... which makes them prohibitively expensive. He mostly pimped out drug addicts. Not sure what his price ranges were, they varied girl to girl. Then you've left it as an unknown, so it does nothing to prove prostitutes are a viable option. You're claiming women don't understand prostitution for some reason. Reasons being they have no idea what they're talking about, and we can lump in prostitutes too, to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:40 PM
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Do you really want to get into this? Are you sure you can back up your claims? You'll need to say a lot more before you've gotten to the point where you're saying anything of practical importance. Let's start with It's prohibitively expensive to go to Australia, so you're answer doesn't help non-Australians very much. What does "easy to get" really mean? If "easy" doesn't include cheap then you've left out a very important factor. If "easy" does include cheap then you'll need to bring a lot more…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:31 PM
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non western women too
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:27 PM
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Okay, that is a great example of the kind of comment I'm talking about. The way you've made prostitution out to be is greatly disassociated from reality. Hookers have a fairly wide range of prices depending on where you live. How would you know? That's a claim vague enough to maybe be technically true while also practically useless. Crack whores are cheaper than high end ones with nice teeth. So? You haven't demonstrated prostitution as a viable way towards sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:25 PM
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This seems like way more effort than just paying for sex in the US as an option. Wait, how easy/cheap/whatever do you think "paying for sex in the US" is? You seem to think it is low effort than it really is, so you'd be analogous to telling the homeless to just buy a house. If the analogy still doesn't make sense to you then I'm not sure what I could do to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:20 PM
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Dude, I am anti-suicide, which is partly why I don't consider "oh well, it's hopeless, these guys just have to settle for a lifetime without getting what they want" a valid option.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:16 PM
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Like this comment thread. Wait, do you believe you're entitled to an answer? You aren't the arbiter of truth, and I am not obligated to convince you for something to be true. I'd recommend printing out many of your comments, and then showing them to your doctor. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:14 PM
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This sub. lol, where are all the men saying that don't trust foreign women? Unless you're only talking about reasonable caution that applies to pretty much everyone who is a stranger, they aren't saying that. So, I can't understand where you're reading "many men don’t trust foreign women." If all you mean is reasonable caution then I don't see how your statement is relevant. If someone doesn't trust anyone even after getting to know them, then I think that it's a big issue. Okay, but you're addi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:12 PM
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I’m so confused at this point. I’ve never “believed all women” that’s stupid. I don't mean literally, I mean any amount of truth behind the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:37 PM
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When all you say is "Pretty terrible analogy" then I don't care about your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:36 PM
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So, so many women here know next to nothing about prostitution yet also tell men "just pay for sex, dummy." It's hilarious. They have no idea what they're talking about but act like they're prostitution experts. Oh, yeah, it's super easy to find and very affordable, here's Sheila's number, she's great! These women can never back up their claims, like that, for example, but also in many other ways. Like, okay, how often are you paying prostitutes for sex? No? Okay, so, the issue here is that you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:36 PM
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Prostitution is a viable solution for wanting sex. You can't be serious, how? How often do you pay prostitutes for sex? Please, explain this to me, I'd love to hear how you come to conclude that prostitution is a viable solution for wanting sex. Where are all these attractive, affordable prostitutes? If you're so certain, what are their names? I seriously doubt you know what you're talking about. "Viable" is doing a lot of work in your claim. Your obtuse usage is a stretch of credulity. "Buy a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:15 PM
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Yeah I understand it's only a temporary solution. Not even a temporary solution; not a solution any duration of time. The truth is their might not be a solution You really want to go there? Because, if we're allowing for that possibility you're advocating for a very dark path. I am not, never have, and never will, advocate for suicide, but agreeing with you can end up with the only logical solution being suicide. Personally, I refuse to consider "oh well, no solution, time to give up" a valid ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:08 PM
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Rigid comments such as some of yours are indicative of being on the autism spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:01 PM
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Pretty terrible analogy. No one cares. I hope you're aware of how repulsive a "because I said so!" attitude is, like in that comment right there. If all you're going to do is state your conclusion, with nothing backing it up, then I just don't care, and it would be fooling for you to assume people will take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:00 PM
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The connection is the good will afforded to people who are telling you of abuse, or harmful behavior more generally. If you think there's nothing to "believe women" then there's nothing for us to have a disagreement over. However, if we're going to give at least some credence to people telling you of something bad going on, then the characteristics of the person giving you the report shouldn't really matter. To do so would be prejudicial, but then again, if you don't have a problem with being a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:57 PM
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But the thing you're telling them to do also isn't fair. You aren't offering something that will fix the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:53 PM
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That's both hilarious and frightening. hilarious: wildly inappropriate to talk that way in a professional setting frightening: a person acting that way has the potential to terminate the ride in the middle of nowhere. Even if you're trying to agree with her, she might be projecting so hard that, while unable to hurt the people she's actually angry at, she settles for punishing those available to her. There's a good deal of psychodynamic psychotherapy about these things. Search "object relations …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:51 PM
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"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" seems appropriate here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_lady_doth_protest_too_much%2C_methinks That kind of obsession trying to prove that you're better than others is indicative of an insecurity so severe that it rises to the level of mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:39 PM
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In that case, prostitution is automatically not a viable solution, you're not even trying to answer the question. So, don't even bother pretending like you're trying to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:33 PM
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Most women have a perverse obsession with putting down men. It doesn't really matter who these men are, or what they did. Women feel compelled to classify some of them as deviant because they are too afraid to come to terms with their own inadequacies. It's a form of projection. They think they're being cute, but all they're really doing is telling the world how sad and frightened they are. They're pretty easy to spot. Pretty much every woman here is this type of woman. When a woman acts as if s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:20 AM
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no, but you might. not shaming, just an honest suggestion to get yourself tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:49 AM
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you said it was about me, and I said it wasn't. the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:48 AM
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exactly what an incel would say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:45 AM
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The mods seem to let women break the rules around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:45 AM
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if you disagreed with me you would have, or most people, would have engaged in the substance of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:44 AM
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Because it isn't about me personally, don't make things personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:43 AM
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No? Sex can be unwanted just because you don't want to have it and you can be not into a person even if they're Hollywood actor-tier. Obviously, I was speaking in short-hand, not literally. Your counter points don't refute my argument, you're just acting as if you're on the autism spectrum (not shaming, that's just the way you're acting). It depends on a thing really, but I have zero reasons to believe any analogies personally from you as you're known for making some terrible ones. Violation of …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:42 AM
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Who of the two would you say feels the lack of the arm keenly and painfully, and is limited by it day to day? If it's that easy to be happy without forearms then let's cut everyone's forearms off!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:36 AM
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There are not that many super model attractive dudes walking around. Partially right, but partially, you're setting that arbitrary cut off much higher than the amount it already is, and it's already excessive. There are attractive dudes everywhere. No, and you don't have to believe me, you can ask women. Again, this is because women define "attractive" as meeting an unrealistic threshold. Women are incels, basically: they only want super hot people. Women thinking you are attractive will not nec…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:35 AM
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You don't seem to understand basic statistics, or the meaning of "exceptions."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:31 AM
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oh, you don't understand basic human adult life, my mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:30 AM
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no, you're just telling me you know I'm right but don't want to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:29 AM
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you sound like an incel, maybe try therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:29 AM
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It's better to change the unfair current social situation. Your error is assuming the US today is fair. It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:28 AM
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If getting your passport is too much effort You're detached from reality if you think that's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:26 AM
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Most of what I’ve read seems to indicate that many men don’t trust foreign women. Sounds crazy, what the heck are you reading? I think that trusting women in general is a very big issue Absurd. At that level of generality, there is no good reason to blindly "trust" a vast group of people. Why don't women trust men? There's your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:25 AM
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Since when do young guys have money for oversea trips to fuck girls? What world are you living in? These people pivot to "then make more money, and the fact that you can't makes you the problem." They aren't serious, they're just playing rhetoric games to try to convince men of the just world falacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:23 AM
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Because when they go overseas and inevitably strike out, they'll be forced to acknowledge that western women are not the problem. Not really. Two alternatives it takes a lot of money to make it work local culture incompatible with US
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:20 AM
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Average men can get some action by simply dressing well, grooming, approaching women, learning how to communicate with women, and learning how to build sexual tension. Nope, you have a skewed definition of "average."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:19 AM
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You also "get laid" when you're raped, but that's usually not something people consider a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:18 AM
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If homeless people don't want to be homeless they should magically come up with lots of extra money to buy a home, easy. That's you, essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:17 AM
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there are always exceptions and those don't prove the rule wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:16 AM
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Unless you're assuming a man treats his wife like a whore, prostitution isn't a substitute for sex/relationship for men. If you have to give your wife $300 every time you want to have 30 minutes of sex, then you are in an abusive relationship. "Just hire a prostitute" = "just get into an abusive relationship, bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:15 AM
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Women in the US probably get raped at lower frequencies than in other countries, but that doesn't make rape okay. "It could be worse" arguments like yours are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:10 AM
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These are the same people who also say gay conversion therapy is abuse. When conversion therapy is apply to straight men who they think are unattractive they stop considering it abuse. It's very telling of the way they see the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:03 AM
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Not being able to secure commitment without sex is the female version of a male virgin. No, you just want a platonic friend, and normal people want sex with their life partners. There are plenty of asexuals out there. Go be with one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:01 AM
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Statistically, it literally is. Height advantage is a well documented fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:00 AM
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No I'm saying that without knowing what the positive reinforcement does for you or what it feels like, the lack isn't painful like how you are describing it. I can't help you if you refuse to understand, like you are. It is actively painful. It's like getting violently anally raped every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:58 AM
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If men can’t do it then I don’t see why women should be compelled to do it. I already told you. it's one of the ways women are different men are already doing it If you wouldn’t do it yourself don’t ask someone else to. Men already are. And it still takes a minimum level for women. That's the way that women are more similar to incels than they want to admit: it's "super model or nothing" Nah dude, there are hot guys that aren’t movie start attractive and there are attractive average looking men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:57 AM
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No, not really. Anyone is unwanted if Yes, really. You're making the mistake of defining "unwanted" as "anyone less than super-model Hollywood actor attractive." I don't believe your analogy, but it's not something either of us can prove. That's your double standard right there. You'll believe all sorts of things unprovable when it benefits your ideology, and refuse anything inconvenient. There is as much proof as proof that, for women, sex with someone they aren't attracted to is painful. Unles…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:54 AM
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contentless, personal attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:48 AM
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I honestly don't think it's painful, but it is a life with a lack of a very important source of positive reinforcement, that's all pervasive. Well, no, my point is that, you thinking that most likely indicates that you simply do not understand something about it, and it's a matter of figuring out what that disconnect is (if you want to). Going without water for eight hours can be inconvenient, but unless you're starting out with a serious exception, it is do-able. However, that does not work on …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:44 AM
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That kind of dismissiveness is what let Harvey Weinstein get away with his crimes. You might want to try listening to men sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:31 AM
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It is known that women have a much more fluid sexuality than men. You need to think about it as: 1) men are already working on the basis of the lowest standards they could possibly accept, and 2) women define the attractive vs. unattractive cut-off at "movie star leading man" level attractiveness. It's well documented that women can become more attracted to a man over time as she gets to know him, as the relationship deepens. While this can sort of happen for men it is only if given that the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:30 AM
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I think most men can understand the idea of unwanted sex being painful and traumatizing pretty easily. The problem is women are defining "unwanted" as "anyone less than super model attractive." It's extremely frustrating not to have something you really want especially when lots of other people around you do have it. No, you aren't appreciating how harmful and painful it is. You simply do not understand. The best analogy I can think of is unwanted, violent anal sex every day, and being on the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:18 AM
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You could try to become attracted to more men. A lot of it is emotional/mental, right? You just need to train your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:07 AM
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I'd argue the male pain is much worse. You can learn to become attracted to a person over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:00 AM
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Women simply do not understand the pain of going without sex and/or a relationship in the long term. It's a lot like how, for women, sex with someone they aren't very attracted to can hurt. It's men's thing like that. Just like men can't understand the pain, neither can women. Women don't believe men for a lot of reasons, and many men don't believe it either, but it is true. Part of it has to do with what being "single" means for women, but part of it is also that a lot of these people who don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:38 AM
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you confuse your assumptions with what people actually do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:03 AM
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dead bedroom, betabux, shit relationship, many, many other options
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:02 AM
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There are multiple reasons - prostitutes have terrible stats for addictions, victimizations, mental health problems etc. That's a problem with implementation, not an inherent problem. Next. Some of them are forced into it and some are forced as minors and struggle with getting out even as adults. The same goes for dish washers, but you don't have a problem with those, so that can't be it either. Next. When a person buys sex Paying for a service, and that's an important distinction ... they buy a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:02 AM
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I live in Chile, and wouldn't give you a name of anyone I know anyway with how psychotic you sound. How convenient. What would I have needed to say that would have convinced you to give me references? Or, is simply the topic coming up enough for you to call me "psychotic"? DON'T MAKE WILD CLAIMS IF YOU AREN'T WILLING TO BACK THEM UP. You could get a hooker/escort/sugarbaby in your city for more money or travel somewhere cheaper. I checked, so no. Same goes for other things. Obviously you won't d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:55 AM
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They are perfectly viable and you know it Since you have no answer you deflect with personal attacks. No, I have no answer because you'll ignore the perfect answer and insist you're still right. I've been to 32 countries, I asked for at least a name, but you didn't even give me that. You've pretty much proven yourself full of shit, my job in done here. I've been to 32 countries, hookers are never hard to find. They're hard to find in Dallas, Texas. At least, hard if you don't want to go to jail.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:08 AM
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We have a different opinion here, I don't think we can find a common ground. Explain yourself. No? Okay, but I don't want to catch you complaining about arbitrary things men do. For me sex isn't sellable or buyable, If your reasons are nothing beyond "because I say so" you aren't being reasonable. It is transactional even in the most "authentic" versions. The problem isn't in money, but in having sex with an unwilling partner. They ARE willing, it's just that money is parting of what makes it "w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:02 AM
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Sex is different to other things we do for money. No, that's just your brain playing tricks on you. but I refuse to view sex as service or as sellable/buyable goods. no money was exchanged, so problem solved, right? and I'd never date a man who thought that prostitution is okay. What if he didn't pay her after the sex because he thought prostitution was NOT okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:48 AM
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why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:46 AM
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why does it matter if it was covert if you understood it? Trying to justify Nice Guys (TM) ... brave, I'll give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:46 AM
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because it wasn't transactional? you reneging on your component of the transaction No, she had a covert contract, just like Nice Guys (TM)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:09 AM
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I'm just trying to nail down the issue you have with men who pay whores for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:08 AM
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If they wanted to have sex with you, they'd do it for free. if that's the standard, then you shouldn't eat out at restaurants, because the people washing your dishes would have done it for free if they had really wanted to. It's just as exploitative, non-consensual. How is it okay to have someone non-consensual wash your dishes but not when it's non-consensual sex? if you don't pay them they did it for free everything is evaluated in totality; wanting to do it for sex+fee is wanting it if you wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:07 AM
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they did want to do it though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:52 AM
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it's indistinguishable from "the regular way." it's better because it's less transaction than dinner -> sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:52 AM
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I don't believe "no reason"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:51 AM
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he didn't see a prostitute, he just has sex with a woman and it didn't end up working out in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:51 AM
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Why? It's less transactional than a date
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:47 AM
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k, I'm asking women, move along
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:44 AM
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you complain and whine all the time, for example: every post of yours (ppd won't let me put links). All you do is complain about other people complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:43 AM
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the women who pretend they're the same are the ones telling on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:39 AM
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what? sounds like a personal insult. be civil
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:38 AM
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Because women define "attracted to" as the male equivalent of bikini model. Yes, when you set your arbitrary cut off at an absurd place, you get absurd results. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:36 AM
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Question for women who don't want to date men who have paid whores for sex: If I fucked her then left without paying, does that make it better?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:32 AM
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it's the self devaluization that is so revealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:28 AM
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All of those "suggestions" are not viable for a number of reasons, but you aren't worth my time to explain it. You can have sex tonight by paying a hooker. But, if you're right, then what is the name of this hooker, how much does she charge, for what, what does she look like, etc. ??? You're so confident, you must know the exact woman. Otherwise, you'd be pretty foolish to make such a claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:27 AM
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It says A LOT about women when they act like a relationship with them can be replaced with platonic friends and hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:24 AM
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I just did in the other comment. Step by step instructions, guaranteed to work? No, you didn't. If you had been tortured for real you would not be throwing the term around so hyperbolically about a simple lifestyle difference. Ah, your mistake is assuming "a simple lifestyle difference." It is much worse than that. So no, you have never been tortured and probably never will. By the time it has been long enough to be "torture" it will be too late to do anything about it. We aren't bound by your d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:23 AM
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You were never tortured. I never said I was. I don't need to say either way. You don't know me, I could have been tortured. It depends a lot on how you define "torture." Stop lying. I wasn't lying to begin with. Being single is what the vast majority of people have been at different times in their life. I'm not talking about the trivial type of being single. From ages 0-18 doesn't count. Some people choose to be single permanently. .. and for some it is forced, and under the right circumstances …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:20 AM
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You are allowed to be an asshole if you are hot
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:12 AM
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they would make him an outcast
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:54 AM
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People who say it's no big deal to be single haven't been single for a long enough time to understand, where single includes not being able to have sex, or date, and wanting to, plus a few other little details that take too long to write out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:50 AM
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I don't need to be tortured even if I was "trying to lay claim to victimhood." You do not appreciate how torturous long term singlehood is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:46 AM
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truth is the truth, melodramatic or otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:09 AM
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thats an extremely strong point. youre failing yourself by not avoiding x is not strong enough? I'm not sure what your point is, but, yes, it is possible there's something else missing, no matter how strong something else is. addressing one serious negative is at least progress if not the outright solution No, it isn't "progress"; progress means actually getting results. It could literally be impossible, no matter what the person does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:04 AM
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reported again, for bad faith comments. Not having partner doesn’t equal torture No one is even discussing self harm but you It doesn't "make sense" because you're pretending I said things I didn't say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:06 AM
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Okay, that's another one of your where you damn well know you have nothing, so instead of talking to the content you just pretend that you don't understand. If the person is one who's remaining life time is pretty squarely torture - however you want to define that to make sense to you - are you seriously saying that person should not be allowed to end their life earlier than otherwise? if no: you're being unreasonable. if yes: you've de facto admitted suicide to be a valid option to choose from,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:19 AM
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which was ..?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:15 AM
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what if they just rephrased it as “if you do x its going to make getting a girlfriend much harder because many girls consider x to be a red flag?” That would be admitting that their point isn't nearly as strong as they wish it was, so they can't say that. you wont get a girlfriend only by avoiding x, but youll get one sooner by avoiding x, and otherwise being yourself. The "but youll get one sooner by avoiding x" is still an over stretch. There could still be other characteristics that make a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:12 AM
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What point? All you do is try to say the opposite of the last thing I said, or you give up and try to make some kind of "joke," if those can even be called that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:56 PM
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There’s only one person calling that an option and it’s not me. It comes automatically when you say it isn't your "job." Are you seriously saying people should be FORCED to be tortured, if that's what the rest of their life comes to, without any choice to end early? Because, that's what you're saying if you want to say it isn't your "job" and suicide is not a valid option. And explain how it’s “abandoning people” by letting them not do what they’re supposed to? They abandon themselves. You're as…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:55 PM
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You've been reported. arguing in bad faith, all he does is claim the opposite of whatever point I last made.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:28 PM
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Do you think you’re going to meet someone and not have ANY issues alone the way? Do you think you’re going to marry the first person you date? No, of course not, it just takes way too long to write out all the details, like that one, for example. If I make it too long then no one will read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:26 PM
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We know it is possible to have preferences even if you haven't tried the thing. You were just arguing for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:22 PM
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Abandonement is pretty malicious. It can be, but negligence works too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Seems to me, you don’t want a solution outside of something that’s going to magically make someone manifest next to you as your wife. It only seems "magical" when you ignore all the prior work. Relationships take time and work. I already did the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:21 PM
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No, who said it was my job, or anyone’s job to “get these people what they want?” When you say it is not your "job," you are automatically opening the door to suicide being a valid option. You don’t just get to have something cause you want it. What’s “their plan?!” Fine, then don't complain about how you aren't really "abandoning" anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:16 PM
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Great, so we agree that you can have preferences about something even if you've never done it. Same works for men who know they want a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:11 PM
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I am not promoting suicide, we're just having a conversation. Acknowledging the existence is not the same as promotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:06 PM
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If it was easy to just find another partner wouldn’t you have one now and not be sitting here equating singleness to death. I was referring to the "fixed" scenario. Do you think people are maliciously choosing not to be with you? Nope, and I'm never claimed they did. Again, you're confusing end state with current state.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:05 PM
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I don’t mean this in a disrespectful way at all: but do you think you have positive qualities? Do you personally think that there is something likable both you? Of course, I'm just telling you a realistic description. Passport bros date transactionally, you have an average us money and are willing to bring her back to the states then yes, there is a woman who will be willing to come back and be your wife. takes a good deal of money risks still might not work out it isn't the solution you're tryi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:00 PM
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"X exists" is a weak claim too, and also usually means that they know they're wrong, and are grasping at straws.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:53 PM
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no, it's more complicated than that, and when I say "have a wife," I also mean that, should she want to divorce I would be able to find another woman to be in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:51 PM
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most women agree about what is and is not attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:47 PM
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One is what a person does to themselves, another what a person does to the other. Being driven to "suicide" by making - or leaving it to run its course - someone's life so shit that they kill "themselves" is effectively murder. Did the jumpers on 9/11 at the WTC commit suicide, or were they murdered by terrorists? Many men are essentially murdered in a similar way, it just takes longer to kill them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:42 PM
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How do you know you won't love shooting yourself in the head with a gun?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:36 PM
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You know what I mean. When you resort to nonsense "jokes" that tells me you know I'm right but don't want to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:33 PM
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Let’s say you get a partner and their behavior changes so you no longer consider them good. Then what? I'm assuming it would be where I could reasonably find another partner if that's what I wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:28 PM
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if you're single for long enough, as well as other assumption
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:25 PM
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A catch all solution to what? Just your personal problems? For anyone, when the rest of their life is expected to be worse than being dead. You want a step by step guide to getting someone not just to like you, but to have a long term relationship with you. I would have settled for less if it would work. I did the standard stuff, so now it's time for "a higher level of care." Finding a partner is honestly situational and partially just luck: right place right time kind of thing. I know, but to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:21 PM
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it seemed pretty clearly implied that your task was to give them a plan for them to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:57 PM
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"No woman wants to touch a man who thinks ..." and the like is pretty useless. It's insidious because because it sounds at first like something significant, but if you think about it, it isn't saying much. It's the concept of necessary vs. sufficient conditions. Not being X won't be enough for a woman to want you. It's at least possible, and usually likely, that there are other "knock-out" characteristics that lead her to rejecting you. When you see people say things like "you'll never get a gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:46 PM
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Did you try the warm approach thing though? Did you try looksmaxxing? And can you be sure you did it EFFECTIVELY? Yes. I won't write a PhD thesis, but yes. No woman wants to touch a man who thinks them rejecting her is equivalent to him RAPING her. I'm not making such a trivial claim. Sure, I agree, but that isn't enough to get all the way there. Tell me what they don't want isn't enough to tell me what will work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:21 PM
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You abandon people to a shit life, so you allowed for it by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:59 PM
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it's their life and everyone dies. better to ask why it shouldn't be allowed? not allowing suicide is a lot like a hostage situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:58 PM
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no, people should be allowed to suicide
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:48 PM
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Because, given your views on rape, i think it would be dangerous for someone to be in a relationship with you. What do you think my views on rape are? Like most people, I don't think it is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:46 PM
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So......getting raped by a man and not having sex are the same but not exactly the same? Yes, one might say the similarity could be described as "sucks if it happens to you," almost as if they're in the same .. oh what's the word, category? Doesn't that mean one is either better/worse than the other? Yes. losing $10 isn't as bad as losing $100. Both still suck though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:44 PM
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Communication? How does anyone know anything? It isn't rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:39 PM
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Ah, you have nothing for them. In that case, suicide is a valid option.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:26 PM
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Just because you haven't been in a relationship doesn't mean anyone is violating your rights of autonomy. Sure: when you carefully define terms so that you end up with the conclusion you were trying to get to in the first place, it is easy. Regardless, the rape survivor will likely go to therapy to process and come to terms with what happened to them. They will work through the trauma. Okay, but that isn't a perfect fix. If no girls want to be with you, then that is a you problem that you need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:24 PM
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No, you misread me not spelling out every little detail as me complaining about something absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:41 PM
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Best advice to get a girlfriend who is into you is to put yourself in social settings where talking to random women I've already been trying all of that and more. It doesn't work. Before any of that though, please for the love of all that is holy get the disgusting idea that women being raped is equal to you being forever alone out of your goddamn head. Not exactly equivalent, but both are pretty significantly bad. I think you aren't appreciating how bad being "forever alone" can be. So, you mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:31 PM
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But otherwise no one has a duty to make sure you don’t feel abandoned. As long as you're allowing for suicide to be a valid option I don't have a problem with that. I did not say hit on you, I said if a bigger, stronger, lonely man decided to force himself on you and use your body would you think it was “no big deal”? What's your point? The bigger, stronger person, when abandoned to lifelong being single, is all of society. We aren't limited to only two options of 1) as-is, vs. 2) violent rape. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:13 PM
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Let's limit ourselves to talking only about the people who prefer a relationship over being single. Nobody is cool with rape. Who knows? Maybe someone is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:01 PM
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... to add: Now that we've established that they know what they want, what's your plan for the ones who have trouble getting it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:58 PM
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They know because they know their preferences. it isn't hard to see how you can have preferences even though you haven't tried something yet. Maybe not every little detail, but it is a very normal thing to know the broad strokes of what you want vs. don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:55 PM
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Active versus passive is very useful here. Why? You not being in a relationship is just because you haven’t found anyone to date you yet. So? You haven’t done anything, you’re only choosing not to engage with him. Still a choice, so active, not passive, even if the distinction makes a difference. Dying because no one wants to date you is not a logical jump at all. You could just…be single…instead of being dead and single. It is possible for being dead to be better than being single. Not all the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:52 PM
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You are the one saying apple and oranges are the same, not me. Honest question: have you ever been tested to see if you're anywhere on the autism spectrum? I'm saying their both fruit, so in that sense, sure, they are the same. I'm not saying exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:37 PM
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Hold on, how do you propose we fix this problem. I don't know. I'm open to suggestions. Like do you actually think there’s a solution to your issue? Ending one's life early is always a catch-all solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:28 PM
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I wouldn't if i could though, because the fact that you will spend the rest of your life alone makes me happy. Ah, there we have it. Why does that make you happy? I'd love to read your explanation. Presumably, you believe I'm a bad person in some way, right? Personally, I see bad people as at least still human, so I take no joy from their suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:21 PM
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You were supposed to answer my question since I answered yours, and you were supposed to explain how any of your line of thought matters here. You didn't. Also, you mischaracterize what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:04 PM
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But i brought that up in the beginning. Is it more fun? To some. Not to all. We're only talking about the ones who do find it "more fun," so stop brining up other people. It's a waste of time since those people are outside of the scope of the current topic. Some of us are gonna enjoy things more with people. That’s ok too. The problem is that some of those can't find partners, so we're talking about how they can get that. What's your plan?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:01 PM
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trivial; if they were the same then we'd use the same term for both
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:59 PM
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sex when older doesn't replace not having it in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:58 PM
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"nuh-uh" ... is more or less what your comment means, regardless of not being verbatim. Maybe if you learnt to respond appropriately to what people said, you'd be able to find a partner. Please, I'd love for you to tell me the responses that will make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:58 PM
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The very fact that you think I’m saying that your loneliness and sexlessness is a result of you NOT raping people proves how mentally ill you are. I don't think that you're saying that. Please seek professional help. I'm interested in help that gets me a (good) wife and, potentially in the short term, (good) sex. What help have you got for me? Please include practical steps and an explanation for how your help helps me get the things I want, the subset of "things I want" as I've specified here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:55 PM
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Your arguments are fallacious. Something can be a crime, but the victim still has to go on living. Try not to read too much into my "crime" comment, that was just an illustrative example. My point still stands: if "getting over it," or similar, was good enough then no one would care about rape. worse outcomes than accepting and acknowledging something bad happened and finding contentment in the end. If it was just that simple it wouldn't be offensive to claim that it is a good enough answer to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:52 PM
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But it is for the people that probably would be happy alone than with a partner. True, but we aren't talking about those people. If you really enjoy your life and what you do then what’s wrong learning to be happy about it instead of trying to force yourself into awkward dates and miserable situations? What's wrong is that we're talking about getting the "more fun" part. Your error is bringing up irrelevant information.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:44 PM
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It's also not always seen as bad. You're changing the topic at that point. The premise is that the person wants a relationship, so in this context, being single is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:41 PM
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I think you probably just don't have a good enough imagination to see how bad lifelong singlehood can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:39 PM
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The "it" is the bygone years of missing out. These aren't mutually exclusive things, so you point doesn't negate "YOU ARE ALL ENCOURAGING SUICIDE BY DEFAULT," or it being too late to do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:38 PM
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which question? and, how does giving you an answer help me?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:35 PM
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FINE, but I'm going to lose interest if you don't follow up with a very good explanation for where you're going with this. Will you take getting raped by a man or not having sex at all? I'd take the not having sex at all option. However, there's more to life than a simple choice between torture method X vs. torture methods X and Y.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:34 PM
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then it wouldn't be good enough for me, by definition. good enough means you do not want more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:30 PM
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Being raped isn’t comparable to you being unhappily single. They're comparable in the sense that losing $100 is worse than losing $10. But let’s use your logic: There are many people that are happy single. If it’s good enough for them why isn’t it good enough for you? We have different preferences. Seriously, your personal unhappiness and inability to not find a partner is not societies problem. We cannot force someone to be with you. We cannot force someone to take an action. Okay, but by defau…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:30 PM
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explain, otherwise, I don't care by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:24 PM
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If women were less picky and you were still single then yes, you would still be lonely and loneliness would be still be an issue. Using your definition of "lonely," the problem is not being lonely. The problem is not finding a (good) woman. Stated differently, that's the "If women were less picky" part. No one is abandoning you. Really? Then you should be doing more to find a (good) woman for me. You aren't. So, which is it? It's de facto, default abandonment. If you want to use different terms …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:23 PM
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What I’m saying is simple. Just cause some thing is good doesn’t make the other “less good” or “bad”. Which is fine, but the premise from the start has always been - essentially - "how do we get the 'more fun' part?" It’s what makes that person happy. And that’s not gonna be the sake for everyone. I agree, and also, for me and a lot of other people, a (good) spouse is "more fun," so now that we've specified it in that way, we can move on to figuring out how to make that happen. But some people a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:09 PM
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Even if someone is a victim of rape, they have to work through that and find peace. If that was good enough then there would be no reason to make it a crime. Of course, it isn't good enough, which is why so much effort is put into various anti-rape tactics. I don't see how that doesn't also apply in that situation? If "work through that and find peace" includes suicide as one of the potential, valid solutions, then sure, it can be applied in that situation. Besides, it is absurd to say that stru…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:04 PM
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I don't consider rape to be a valid way to have sex. Maybe I'm too uptight, but that's just the way I am, and since I'm well into my 30s, I don't see that changing any time soon. In the sense that I choose not to rape, sure, me being single is my own "fault."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:00 PM
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I want a (good) girlfriend. Do you have anything to help me get what I want? Please be specific; consolidate all your answers into one comment please.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:58 PM
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yup, both are fruit, so obviously comparable. This is kindergarten stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:57 PM
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But yeah, give me an example. Okay, you asked for it: everything you said could also be applied to rape, and since the offensiveness is glaringly obvious, we can know your logic is faulty, so we can surmise that it also doesn't work when applied to men who struggle with dating, as you have. Granted, it is harder to see how offensive your philosophy is when applied to single men, but that's just an issue of being harder to see, not an issue of the offensiveness not existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:56 PM
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That's all fine, but I'm specifically interested in the "more fun" part, so what's your plan? Or, if you don't have a plan, can you acknowledge that you've made suicide a viable best option? Does that make gaming LESS fun? Not to a lot of people. Does it mean it’s worse if the person is happy? Not really. Again, all that is fine, but it's irrelevant to the question at hand even though (at least possibly) true. Nazis also though the sun rose in the east and set in the west. The Nazis got that par…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:51 PM
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Will you take getting raped and stabbed or getting raped without the stabbing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:35 PM
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Everyone does die, no should or shouldn't about it. Sometimes a person can be better off skipping the last, worse part, i.e., suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:33 PM
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Or sometimes doing things together makes things more fun. Yes, right, okay. So, let's consider the objective of "more fun," that's our goal here. I'm trying to have more fun but can't; more fun for me means being in a positive relationship with a loving wife. I'm already doing or have done all the standard dating advice, so what else do you have for me? What's your plan for getting me from here to "more fun"? Don't tell me "you can have fun alone too": that is outside the scope of what we're try…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:32 PM
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I've already called them and they refuse to help me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:22 PM
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Is there more to your argument beyond "nuh-uh"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:20 PM
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ironic, since most sex offenders find victims through their families.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:19 PM
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your suggestions don't seem to be intended to help me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:18 PM
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It's extreme to think that rape and not having a partner aren't the same? Not same, but two bad things of different magnitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:17 PM
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If it doesn't work? You grow old and die. Seems to me that sometimes skipping the grow old part is the best option, so suicide. Why try? Because it's the only logical thing. How? Clearly, sometimes suicide is the best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:17 PM
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Lower your standards and keep improving yourself. I already did, and that's how we got to this point. There are thousands of single women in a mid sized city. You only need 1 decent one. Apparently, there is not even 1 decent one, using your language.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:15 PM
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If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. That's how it is. Then suicide can, and for some people is, the right choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:13 PM
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There are plenty of those around. I never said majority. Privilege? Fine, then suicide is the best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:12 PM
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it's like this: just because there are worse forms of torture, that doesn't make it okay to water board someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:11 PM
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Maybe it's just me, but it seems that I'm the only one here who can understand how two things can both be bad, yet different degrees of bad. Just because losing $100 is worse than losing $10; that doesn't make losing $10 a good thing: they're both bad, just one is worse than the other. Losing $10 isn't equivalent to losing $100, you can't compare the two. No, you absolutely can compare the two: $10 vs. $100.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:10 PM
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If being single was good enough then no one would bother with dating in the first place. People do date, so that is pretty strong evidence that being single is not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:04 PM
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where did i say perfectly happy? its natural to just kill yourself if youre not perfectly happy? Sufficiently happy, and yes: it is natural to kill yourself if you're not sufficiently happy. of course its not natural to kill yourself because youre homeless. most dont. Most of the ones who didn't suicide, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:03 PM
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Dude get help. I already did. The only "help" end up with "... huh, I guess it does make sense for you to suicide." You equating rape to you being perpetually single is such a dumb take. I didn't equate anything. I said they were similar as in the same class of things, but at different intensities. No one should be forced to be with someone they don’t like just because someone else is lonely. No one should be forced to keep living if suicide is their best option. You being lonely would be possib…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:01 PM
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similar enough to my point
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:57 PM
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Even people that manage to find partners and marriage can not find a “happy-ish” marriage with a good partner in the long run. You're arguing terminology at that point, splitting hairs: those people also have it rough. There is nothing you can do to guarantee anything. No, there is something you can do to guarantee it: actually have it. You could meet someone you love and down the road meet someone that you cheat with. I've already taken those things into account. Finding happienss within yourse…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:56 PM
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Your "enlightened" culture is just as backwards, you just ignore the rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:41 AM
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Uhhhhh bro reign in your thoughts. If a man values family (me) he should dedicate his life to that. k? But what if it doesn't work out for you? Better to say you tried than not. Why? When you answer that I'll then consider your other arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:40 AM
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Straw man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:39 AM
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Why both or neither? Because they're incongruent. Nothing stops you from going to extreme ends in your ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:39 AM
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I know, but that's what mainstream ideology says.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:37 AM
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Whether you accept it or not, people kill themselves. Here, I'll swap out terms so that you can understand: Whether you accept it or not, people get raped. We should care for the ones we’re close to and generally promote better mental health and mental health help, but it’s unrealistic to try and prevent every rape in the world. LOL FUCK YOU I GOT MINE Wow, very enlightened thinking you've got going there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:37 AM
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If you're not liking the situation it is a natural conclusion to leave. You've made a straw man argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:35 AM
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I never said it was literally the same. You've made a straw man argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:35 AM
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I'm done being raped every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:34 AM
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i’m not homeless. you’re not homeless. i’ve failed at stuff, you’ve failed at stuff. whats your point here? According to your logic you should be perfectly happy being homeless, and if you aren't then that's your own personal failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:33 AM
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so your lack of engagement means you agree, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:32 AM
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Not literally the same, but that's besides the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:32 AM
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To what end? Do you want someone to try to save you if you're being raped or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:31 AM
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No, I think it's insane to say "some men/women get raped and that's okay" and fine to say "some men/women never find a partner and that's okay". Right, it's either both or neither. you're insulting every man who has been raped by saying not getting a partner is anywhere near the same for him. What if they have?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:31 AM
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What do these men care about/value? The same things everyone else does. Family or women is a possible answer. Okay, then you can go tell the family people to give it all up for something else. I don't think they'll be very interested. In would say if one goes mgtow do not work very hard unless you just want to. One version of mgtow is suicide. A man can usually be quite happy with very little. I suppose it might be possible to be "happy" while being raped every day too, but that's a stretch of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:29 AM
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Telling men "it might not work out for you, and that's okay," is equivalent to telling them you're okay with them being raped their whole lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:27 AM
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It ain’t over til it’s over By the time it's over it's too late to do anything about it. YOU ARE ALL ENCOURAGING SUICIDE BY DEFAULT.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:26 AM
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being raped requires an actual action to be taken with malicious intent against you. ok, and ..? That is an irrelevant detail. Your fixation on "intent" completely misses the point. Yes, ideology around here is harmful to any civilized society. Like Gandhi said: we might want to try it some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:25 AM
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this subreddit advocating for suicide is not my problem
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:08 AM
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Some women are going to get raped and that's okay. If that seems insane to you then you should also see some men never find a partner and that's okay as insane too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:07 AM
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I'm not promoting suicide, it's just the natural conclusion to the standard ideology here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:04 AM
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Fine, then you've accepted the possibility of suicide. Don't get upset when people suicide because their life isn't good enough to continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:04 AM
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is filled with anger and posts every day about a topic he has no idea of, projection
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:02 AM
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you're the one saying I don't make good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:01 AM
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There are also some less conventional methods like trying to date abroad or Yeah, no: I'm saying AFTER ALSO considering those things. You haven’t answered my question - what kind of solution do you want to get? FINE, here's my answer, but I'm not going to get baited into back and forth: I want a solution that works, "work" meaning giving me a happy-ish marriage with a good wife. Obviously, I can't write every little detail. Be reasonable. Are you going to give me an answer now? I need a battle p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:59 AM
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i’m sure some people will be left out. There you go: those are the ones who could, maybe should, suicide. you have to have some patience and tolerance for failure. Yes, yes, I'm saying: AFTER all of that. and it doesn’t work out by 40, you’re just out of luck. Are you saying that's the right age to suicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:57 AM
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such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:56 AM
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how are you going from failing dating to killing yourself? If you're the one who is saying "sometimes it doesn't work out for some people": like that. do you feel like killing yourself for each of your failures? didn’t get into med school? just die? didn’t pass the bar, just die? If that's how you feel then it should be good enough for everyone: why aren't you homeless if it isn't bad enough to not suicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:55 AM
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We often don’t get what we want, we have to learn to live with it. At that point you aren't trying to engage in a good faith discussion. Do you want an example? You won't like it. There are also some less conventional methods like trying to date abroad or getting into contractual relationships if one finds it acceptable for themselves. That's just a detail contained in the overall idea. You haven’t answered my question - what kind of solution do you want to get? You aren't entitled to an answer.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:53 AM
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So what you’re implying is that practically every woman should have no choice but to be forced into a relationship with a man just so men will not commit suicide. No. Forcing women to be in relationships for the sake of men is just a way to try to take away women’s freewill. Forcing men to be in a relationship where the create the society you live in is just a way to try to take away men's freewill. So two deaths rather than one or none provided people of both genders learned how to enjoy life o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:44 AM
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You have personally accepted it as "a thing." You don't get to then complain about suicides and have people take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:41 AM
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Try again. Okay, what if he takes that advice and it doesn't work out? What if he keeps repeating "try again" and it never works out? What do you have for him? What kind of advice or solution are you seeking here? There’s no guarantee with human interactions. Okay, then don't get upset when people start killing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:40 AM
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Okay, but don't get angry when people suicide, because you set that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:25 AM
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What is your What?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:16 AM
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When you allow for "you lose" you've also allowed for "dropping out early," i.e., suicide. You have to accept you may not get to live the life you desire, but instead learn to appreciate the things you have. That isn't universally true. Do you want an example? You won't like it. Maybe things will work out and maybe they won't. The context is that we're talking about how to get things to work out. The premise is that "maybe they won't" isn't a valid solution. Be happy you get to see the sunset fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:16 AM
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thats always good, but its hard and takes time. before that, try to make easier changes. how are you meeting people? get creative. work faster. dont get hung up on one girl before asking anyone out. All you're doing there is getting into the details. What if a man takes your advice and it still doesn't work out? What do you have for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:11 AM
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This subreddit is full of intellectual dishonesty. You don't have to be smarter than average to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:10 AM
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How do you know? I'm done replying here. When you've found a complete answer reply with that, otherwise, I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:08 AM
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Having goals is not unusual. It’s almost like you’re looking for a way to guarantee you will get a gold medal/win first place when in reality that’s not possible. When it comes to dating advice the context assumes we're talking about finding ways to achieve the objective. Offering 'you can achieve the objective by not achieving the objective' in useless nonsense. Do you want an example? You aren't going to like it. No one ever is guaranteed anything in life but death and taxes so don’t expect ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:07 AM
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Childbirth is a hard gate, unlike people with disabilities. With a big enough reproductive "advantage," C-sections could become mandatory. The same thing happened to humans with Vitamin C: humans are one of the few animals who have lost the ability to synthesize Vitamin C, which means it was available enough, and dropping that work gave enough of an advantage, that over time it made sense to get rid of it. C-sections could work in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:57 AM
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the person who's comment I replied to disagrees. Take it up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:50 AM
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How do you know? How about you give the full answer instead of trying to wear me out with back and forth, and then you trying to claim you "won"? If you can't give a full explanation for how you know then you simply aren't worth taking seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:49 AM
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What are you seriously proposing for the (relatively) unattractive men? I've never seen anyone give a good answer. Try to make yourself attractive as possible, and maybe it'll work out. Okay??? And what if it doesn't? What do you have for those people? If it turns out my most attractive self isn't good enough ... I just don't get what I want? How is losing the game is a way to win the game a valid answer? If you were taking a test in a math class no one would ever accept "wrong answers are right…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:47 AM
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The most you can do (if you’re struggling & want to continue trying) is increase your most attractive attributes to the fullest and hope there’s a woman that likes those attributes on you. And what if you don't have it for ALL OF THEM? That's the big forbidden question, and the answer is essentially "the incels were right, some men should suicide if they knew what was good for them."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:33 AM
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Go talk to u/EulenWatcher. Your rights don't exist. Convince that person that she/he is wrong, then get back to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:30 AM
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This post totally ignores the fact that healthy men want to protect and cherish the women in their lives. "Healthy" is doing a lot of work in that first sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:29 AM
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But it doesn't really matter as it isn't something that can be realistically achieved though. How do you know? You're assuming your conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:28 AM
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These armature sociologists are like shooting fish in a barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:27 AM
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C-sections will eventually lead to humanity being dependent on C-sections for reproduction, meaning dependent on sophisticated technology we have today that we did not have for most of the time that humans have been in existence. C-sections make it so that, eventually, if there is a hard technology reset - nuclear apocalypses - humanity might never recover. All theoretically, in the long term, and that doesn't mean that C-sections aren't a good thing. Just that, to the extent C-sections allow fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:26 AM
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what your comment was about
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:30 PM
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wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 03:02 AM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:02 PM
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"Keep trying and failing, and you'll eventually be left with the right one" doesn't work when it comes to dating, and I'd like to explain why. Lots of people talk about dating like that: get used to rejection; **100 rejections can eventually land you a LTR partner**; just keep trying to "improve" yourself. *You'll eventually find the right one that way, surely, practically guaranteed,* ... or so the theory goes. ​ **It doesn't work when it comes to dating because our lives are too short, and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:49 PM
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okay, but - at least to me - the important question is this: what else will get the job done? Writing off dating apps is fair enough on its own, fine, I'll agree with you, you win. Back to the main task: what *will* work? Your comment, on its own, does next to nothing on the primary issue. There are infinite wrong ways to do it, so there's no guarantee that we'll ever find the right way if we focus on confirming the ones that won't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:38 PM
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You're preaching to the choir, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:35 AM
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Of the handful of matches, and then chatting ... of the few that got at least that far, two of them were the same woman who had zero interest in me, and was only interested in using me to get a free sushi dinner. Surely you get matches, why didn't they want to go out with you? Work on fixing that! That is how truly desolate it is. There is no "try, and maybe .." it is just NO.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:32 AM
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too much effort, and I don't want to cause a scene
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:24 AM
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We can only guess her true intentions, but I'm very confident she was simply looking for someone to trick into giving her free shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:23 AM
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that's what happened, after I made it clear that I wouldn't be paying for her on the first date
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:23 AM
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That rule doesn't even apply on online dating. It's a mutual asking. According to some people it does apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:16 AM
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the man decides where to go in the typical man pays for date scenario. Only formally, because when he decides on a cheap date - coffee, ice cream, a walk - the woman walks away, "not a real date," something like that. The woman can always decline the date, so there is no room for "the man decides where to go." No, he never does. It is always a negotiation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:16 AM
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Fun(?) fact: A woman tried to use me for a foodie call twice, matching on different dating apps a few months apart. TRIED, being the important part: we got to the point where we were working out the details for the date, she said she wanted to go to an expensive restaurant, and I level-set with something like "just so we're clear, because this is the first date, and because you want to go to an expensive restaurant, I want to be clear that I will only pay for what I order, and you'll have to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:05 AM
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blowjob?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:56 AM
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Do you mean to imply something?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:56 AM
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okay ... ??? I don't need therapy I need a loving wife. Therapy is the wrong tool for the job. The right tool for the job is a loving wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:54 AM
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Relationships involve 2 people. Not you and everyone in the world. That is some very rigid thinking you've got going there. That’s just called living in a society. a type of relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:53 AM
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That doesn’t seem like an on-topic follow-up It is, much like an abusive domestic violence situation, you're (technically) in a "relationship" with everyone else in the world. Everyone in the world can be divided into two categories: you vs. everyone else, and everyone else can be abusive in your relationship with them. Saying that you can't suicide if everyone else treats you abusively in the relationship is unreasonable, because you don't expect people to stay in abusive relationships. not to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:42 AM
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Which does ... what, exactly? Does it not seem odd for you to recommend something you know nothing about? Like, what did you expect to happen in therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:37 AM
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Funny how everyone talks about "get help" as this big black box that they can't say anything about, yet insist their recommendation to "get help" is correct. Why not just say what you think that "help" is, rather than being coy? I have sought "help." It didn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:20 PM
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I can understand but nothing is worst than dying, that's the problem There are plenty of things worse than being dead. If you don't agree then you should work on developing more imagination. Everyone dies, it is inevitable. The only difference is how and when. if you think it is then find professional help Why do you think suicide is always wrong? There are times when suicide is the only rational options. It's like leaving a movie early if it is that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:40 PM
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Do you expect people to stay in abusive relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:19 PM
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a sexless life is not as bad as having to jump of a building on fire and dying I'm talking about more than just sexless. So many people are replying with straw man arguments: yes, if you assume the thing you lost was not valuable it is silly to get very upset about it. I am seeing things in perspective. Where are all the happily partnered people who are volunteering to go their whole life without that kind of relationship? There aren't any, and that tells you a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:13 PM
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Society is driving men on mas to the point where the only reasonable way forward is "suicide," though it isn't really suicide the same way that jumpers on 9/11 did not commit suicide. Those people count as terrorist victims to. Everyone agrees that they were murdered rather than chose to suicide. This is the same idea, just a different time scale. So, it's really huge numbers of men being murdered.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:03 PM
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You're making a straw man argument. It isn't as simple as a single bad date, it's a whole life time of not being able to do the things that, for the person, make life worth living.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:56 PM
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If you ask a a happily married person to go their whole life without their partner they can't imagine it. They would absolutely hate living a life like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:53 PM
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wow, entitlement, yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:51 PM
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Also the fact that 1% is incredibly unspecific. Who is he? It does need to be specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:49 PM
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"Murder" is a legal term. You're reading too much into phrasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:48 PM
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Which person who didn't want to date you is responsible for your "murder" in your scenario? If you make a person's life so bad, expected future lifetime, within reason, etc. ... they are not obligated to endure your torture until they die from old age. It's about setting healthy boundaries, and sometimes that means dying. In both situations, it's about pushing someone to the point where the only option is death.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:40 PM
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No, I didn't, you're assuming I'm only talking about "not getting a date." I'm actually talking about the nuanced, important version of these things. It takes to long to write it out, but we all know what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:34 PM
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If someone said to a partner “if you break up with me I will kill myself” that person is being manipulative and toxic. This situation is no different. Not at all comparable, and there's nothing wrong with ending one's life early if that seems like the best bet. Everyone dies. The alternative is being held hostage to whatever torture people want to inflict on you. NO. You get to leave, i.e., suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:31 PM
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late 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:29 PM
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I know it's tough when you don't have anything to address the content, so you resort to irrelevant comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:23 PM
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"What no pussy does to a MFer" it isn't that trivial
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:22 PM
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Then it doesn’t exist. 🤷🏼‍♂️ No. Completely describe Jupiter or it doesn't exist. It's obviously a wrong take.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:19 PM
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Driving someone to "suicide" is really just murder, like the people who jumped from the WTC on 9/11. Modern dating is driving a lot of men to suicide in the same way. Basically, the "standard" way our society works murders men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:10 PM
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If that “1%” doesn’t have a specific image, then it’s just a fantasy, not real life. No, no need to describe in every little detail
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:57 PM
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it's called conversion therapy, and it doesn't work, but it can condition you to try to appear like you're following "normal." ... you're still gay, you just don't fuck men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:36 PM
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men already do "beautify" themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:32 PM
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What's your point? I am not obligated to answer your questions to your satisfaction, otherwise my point is invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:32 PM
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as long as you don't classify imprisonment as violence ...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:24 PM
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No, that doesn't necessarily follow (excluding obtuse definitions and logic, I'll get to that). Of course, it could happen, but there's no guarantee that every woman's preferences are for someone more attractive than a particular man is. No matter how ugly, pretty much all women want the same 1% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:04 PM
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No, because If was something he could be genuinely interested in he would be doing it already. People will be able to tell that he isn't actually interested in it - they'll be able to tell that he's faking it - and that will turn people off from deepening their relationship with him (beyond acquaintances). "Fake it 'till you make it" can sometimes be true, but this is not one of those situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:47 PM
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Just get yourself at a place where you're confident you won't be affected no matter what happens. Not possible. I don't think you understand what you're saying. Technically, "enjoy the decline" includes immediate suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:18 PM
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if it isn't complaining about age it is complaining about some other random characteristic for why him flirting is "inappropriate"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:40 PM
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so the women who tell men to flirt with women IRL rather than using dating apps are full of shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:42 PM
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so they have to ask your permission to flirt with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:25 PM
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no one asked
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:18 PM
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that's where calling your representatives comes in
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:40 PM
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as if we can only ever work on one thing at a time ...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:39 PM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:20 PM
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nah, lets get men the sex they need first
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:19 PM
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you don't get to impose your beliefs on others like that
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:19 PM
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you're comparing flirting to murder?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:09 PM
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age shouldn't matter, and you can replace age with any other arbitrary characteristic. they will call the police and shun you if you break any number of their secret "not allowed to flirt if ..." rules
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:08 PM
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now the single men get sex too, and the world is better off for it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:07 PM
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nah
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:07 PM
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They won't date men on the apps, and you can't cold approach, so they did it to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:06 PM
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nah
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:54 PM
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Flirting is fair game for anyone to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:54 PM
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The prostitutes would heavily taxed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:54 PM
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Here's yet another example of how women literally hate you if you try to flirt with them: https://old.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1af2nte/im_tired_of_older_men_thinking_its_okay_to_flirt/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:47 PM
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Single men should be given massive subsidies to pay prostitutes, and the subsidies should be paid for by heavily taxing everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:22 PM
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I'm confident as fuck and it didn't do shit for me
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:20 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Falling_Man don't be offensive
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:36 AM
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https://old.reddit.com/r/Millennials/comments/1aep5qv/we_owe_taxes_for_the_first_time_ever_been_filing/ Those are the people I'm slaving away for. I WISH I could be married and have three kids (in a good way, reasonably speaking). I can't. Fuck those people. I'm done being a slave. I'd rather be dead. Those people are literally murdering me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:00 AM
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If it's that great then women shouldn't mind me fucking them while they play it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:57 AM
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It's trivial to make a modest living and enjoy life you're a single guy with no dependents.. You've got a funny definition of "trivial," but I guess that's where the latest MCU content comes in..
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:56 AM
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Suiciding will never become a majority because it requires a severe problem in the brain to go through with it. Pure propaganda. You're defining it that way, as a "severe problem." Suicide can very much be rational. Sometimes, you'd be crazy to not suicide. Don't believe me? Fine, let's use you to test your theory: let's torture you, and when you beg to die, we'll have proven your theory wrong. So, are you volunteering to test your theory, or no? You're so confident when on the internet, but whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:10 AM
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Bro if marvel movies are all you have to look forward to that's on you. No, it isn't, because rape is bad. If it were acceptable for me to rape, okay, then it is all on me: rape would be a totally available option in that scenario, and I just refused to take an easy win. RAPE IS NOT OKAY, so, no, it is not on me. It is also on the women who reject me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:07 AM
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All ways have ZERO success. So yeah, it seems things are tough now a days. I empathize with you. Not good enough. This is an emergency. I NEED TO WIN, otherwise, I'm better off immediately suiciding. I'm completely fucked, so suicide is the only option. It's only a matter of when. To be clear: I am not dying from suicide, I am being murdered in the same way that the "jumpers" on 9/11 were murdered. The biggest difference is how fast they were murdered on 9/11. I am being murdered in slow motion.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:04 AM
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They are ... you're probably assuming the suicide rate would be a lot higher. Consider Suicide rate estimation deals with messy data. Did someone who drank for 20 years then died suicide? Are you really up to speed on the latest suicide rate estimate? You're over estimating the suicides for a particular quality of life It is manipulated by propaganda, so of course there will be variations. If they had it their way everyone would consider suicide to be a thing you could never do no matter how ter…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:58 AM
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They are
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:52 AM
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It isn't a way to meet partners now a days. Meeting through friends is one of the many ways that you can't actually meet partners now a days. None of it works. That's what we're telling you. friends cold approaches apps Whenever someone mentions that one doesn't work, just mention either of the other two, and then keep repeating infinitely. Eventually they'll die, and by that point the scam has worked: you've successfully tricked someone into being exploited for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:42 AM
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It's just a matter of time until large proportions of young men start suiciding. All society has to offer them is a long life of slavery, with the occasional Marvel TV/movie product, which is supposed to make life worth living ... I guess? It doesn't, so you're going to see more and more ending their lives early. If it isn't by the more conventional suicide methods then it will be via lifestyle choices that reduce life expectancy. When all anyone wants from you is to exploit your labor for as li…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:36 AM
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i mean if you care about longevity you need to see people and have healthy relationships with them What did you think I was trying to do? There aren't any people who want to have healthy relationships with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:01 AM
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It's so obvious how unworkable the normie advice is. I'm supposed to hang out with people I don't want to actually hang out with, and these people are supposed to magically introduce me to a single woman who wants to date me? Those people are going to tell that I don't actually enjoy being around them so they'll stop inviting me. I already do all the friend group stuff I want to do, and have access to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:00 AM
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I've already included that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:58 AM
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Actually bro that's wrong, me being a virgin has nothing to do with the fact that I have never asked a girl out or even hinted at being attracted to one. The men you're thinking of asked out lots of girls, they just learned to read body language and backed off before pushing it to the point where the police were called.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:57 AM
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your totally not made up at all friend proves it, pack it in boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:56 AM
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It isn't that I don't have friends or don't want friends in general, it's just that I've already had a decent amount of "time with platonic friends," and it gets a bit worn out. Also, it's a question of the type of friends and activities available to me. No one is offering me super cool people instantly available for me to hang out with. In your 30s and older, most people have families and jobs, so they don't have spare time to hang out with their platonic friends outside of those things. I am a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:32 PM
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the point is that there aren't nearly as many opportunities to talk with women as people claim there to be. it isn't as easy as just go out and start talking to women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:05 PM
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Exactly. Many are like that. Even if a man is only interested in platonic friendships, many women simply don't want to socially interact with men outside of their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:07 PM
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also yes women are allowed to only engage with people they like. Tell that to the women who insist there are GUARANTEED women for these men to interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:06 PM
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just move on if someone gives you the “no” body language. They all do that. Yes, I move on, the next gives "no," and the next, and the next, ... are you trying to imply that there MUST be someone eventually who says "yes"? There isn't. Don't tell me to not worry about a single rejection. I don't The concerning this is the 100% TOTAL REJECTION. I'm great, I'd make a great partner. No one bothers giving me a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:03 PM
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If you’re looking for excuses, you should have said so. Implying I am, making it a personal attack, violating the rules here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:57 PM
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how many ugly, socially awkward men did you get into hours-long conversations with today?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:57 AM
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It's the natural end when you take women's advice. Their advice is not meant to be helpful, it is meant to make themselves feel better for saying it. Are you a woman? Do you know any women? Are you willing to put your theory to the test?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:56 AM
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PPD women: touch grass, neckbeard average man to PPD woman: Hi! How's your day going? PPD women: eww, omg, omg go away! Why can't we go anywhere without being harassed, without someone trying to rape me? Women need safe spaces! Believe women!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:48 AM
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please stop violating the rules here. you need to be banned
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:45 AM
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so then the "talk to women in real life" advice women give is bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:44 AM
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PPD women: touch grass, neckbeard Also PPD women: eww, never talk to me unless you're super-model hot
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:44 AM
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Again, insults. You need mental healthcare, call 911.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:43 AM
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i dont think ive ever heard a man have the police called on him for cold approaching. What point were you originally trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:42 AM
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Do you like the smell of your own farts too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:41 AM
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Sounds like a personal attack to me. "take a break from the internet" is code for "eat shit, loser, I'm better than you." WTF are "gendered spaces"? Does me having a gender and being in a space make it a "gendered" space?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:39 AM
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i dont think ive ever heard a man have the police called on him for cold approaching. For as much as women like to shit on men for low social intelligence, most men can read the room, which is why you've never heard of that. You don't hear of it because most will pull back before pushing it that far. But if you do push it that far, that's what will happen. You've never heard of it, because when it does happen it's reclassified as "harassment," "stalker," etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:36 AM
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follow social cues: your problem is you need to touch grass, talk to women in real life, get off the internet follow their advice, try to talk to women regardless: eww, creepy stalker, go away!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:33 AM
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It is important to take "no" from the first time And when men do that then end up having zero interactions, never making female friends, etc., cue up TOUCH GRASS TALK TO WOMEN ... around and around and around and also to seek appropriate environment for approaching. The "appropriate environment" is NEVER. "Appropriate" depends on the man, and the woman, and tons of other factors, so whenever a man say "No! I really did find an appropriate environment, and I got rejected just for saying 'hi'" peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:32 AM
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there seem to be a lot of normal dudes no, it's just a few, don't buy into the propaganda
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:20 AM
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Some women tell men to get off of dating apps and try to just talk to women IRL as persons, rather than as someone the man is looking to have sex with. However, if these same men tried to engage these same women in friendly conversation IRL, these women would complain about how it is a burden these ugly, low status men try to chat them up, pretending to "just be friendly," these women will give off massive "no" body language, ... basically throw up every trick in the book, and if a man is persis…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:18 AM
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assuming they keep living ...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:13 PM
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Huh? How do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:12 PM
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da fuck you going on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:27 AM
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All my guy friends complain they’re bored of fucking a girl after doing it like 3 times. Sounds like you have bad friends. Men want new pussy very quickly after getting a girl (no matter how good the sex is) and they don’t like admitting it because it’s unpleasant. I have no problem admitting it when that is the case, but it usually isn't the case. I guess I just only hook up with women I'm sure I'll like. From a woman’s perspective there’s no validation to be gained from raising your body count…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:54 AM
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If it's all the same to you, I know what I like and don't like. I'm already set for drugs at this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:08 AM
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I already did that and it doesn't work
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:07 AM
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I can tell you're full of shit through the fucking internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:29 AM
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If someone says go to therapy, it's because they sense Just because some rand-o on the internet "senses" something doesn't make it true. Anyway, do you have any single female friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:05 AM
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TEST: can anyone read this? I've been shadow banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:20 PM
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A - there's a lot of similarity between various people; they're consistent with their bait and switch B - that's not really a thing, this isn't about me personally, and mental health might not be limiting a particular person at all. Ask any therapist: they will tell you that their job is not to get you dates. "Specializes in dating issues," once you look under the hood, turns out to have little if any substance. C - you're putting the cart before the horse. I'm all set mental health wise. I'm no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:12 PM
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For a lot of people dating falls into place when they commit to working on whatever the broken foundation of their life is. Just world fallacy, circular logic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:19 PM
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If your mental health keeps you from dating BIG "if." No one can every really know why. The best anyone can do is guess. And in this case, it WILL increase your chance to have the dating life you seek. Buying two lottery tickets will increase your chances of winning. Usually, people only care about the significant increases. Also, "chances" aren't the same as actually doing what you want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:18 PM
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Also, I've already address your point in my post. me: No, that doesn't follow, understanding yourself doesn't magically make people want to date you. Also, you don't know me at all. Anyway, to answer your question: I don't know. Often, people don't tell you why they reject you, especially women, when there's extra fear that the rejected party could get angry. them: What? I don't believe you. Surely, you must know why they rejected you. me: I could guess, but there's no guarantee that my guess is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:14 PM
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If you want actionable advice, pay someone I have, and it wasn't helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:11 PM
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I don’t have anything to debate except advise you to hit the gym to be more successful in dating. Okay, great. I'm already doing that, and it isn't helping. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:10 PM
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It might feel that way to you, but those are not the only options. If every woman who ever rejected you refused to tell you why, how do you propose the man figure out why? Realistically, they'll won't all have the exact same reasons, and "fixing" yourself to appeal to one woman who already rejected you might make it so the next woman rejects you. There are an infinite number of wrong guesses and all of us only have a finite amount of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:09 PM
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Getting into good shape, learning to dress well, getting a variety of interesting hobbies, and interacting with more new people so that you get more comfortable and natural doing it is the real advice. Okay, but if you're already doing those things and it still doesn't work, then what? "Oh well, you're fucked"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:06 PM
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right so you weren't banned for disagreeing w the mods, you were banned for breaking the rules. thats my point. I am not banned, they muted me on DMs to them for three days. I didn't say I was banned for disagreeing with the mods. I did not break any rules. If I were to name the topic I DMed them about then it would be a violation of the rules, according to the mods. what topics that are not banned do you think should be banned? The main point is: how would we know? I'm not making any claims on …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:53 PM
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https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/19f7qd1/daily_community_chat_megathread/kjj12by/ I was being civil, I wasn't directly attacking him. He was the one claiming to be wasting his time. Everyone can benefit from therapy, and no one has perfect introspection. Everyone should consider therapy. That isn't an attack, it is simply good general advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:40 PM
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Uh, no, it does not seem like you got things going on in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:22 PM
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your first response and this are mutually exclusive Not at all. I can't mention the specific topic. Even simply mentioning this topic is a rules violation (according to the mods). If I were to tell you what it was about I would have to mention the banned thing by name, and naming it is against the rules. Again, you're welcome to try to convince the mods to change the rules. If you do I could then tell you. there are banned topics and there's nothing we can do but avoid them You raise an interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:21 PM
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Why are you wasting your time? You seem to be getting something out of this. If you weren't then you would have done something else. You might want to consider therapy. If your comments are any indication, it seems like you have poor insight into yourself. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:14 PM
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you can disagree w the mods if you follow the sub rules while doing it Not all the time, apparently, going by what the mods have directly told me in DMs. what did you do? Telling you is against the rules, according to the mods. Literally just mentioning some things is a violation of the rules. If I told you what I did it would violate the rules of the sub. I know that's not a satisfying answer, but it is out of my hands. IMO, they're being pretty unreasonable, but being reasonable was never a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:07 PM
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Respectfully, you might consider holding back those sorts of comments. At the very least you might waste less of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:03 PM
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I'd love to tell you in this comment, but the mods told me it was against the rules to even mention a topic. Here's a direct quote from one of them: The issue is it encourages incel/black pillers who want to argue against that point. If we just allowed everyone to say it, it would just be a circlejerk of people agreeing. Better to avoid the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:49 PM
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Well, was it a good idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:47 PM
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Serious question for you: how did you decide it would be a good idea to post that comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:38 PM
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Gah, I tried to have a good faith discussion with the mods and then they timed me out for three days. What's the point of a debate sub when you're only allowed to say the things that the moderators have decided are correct? There isn't a point to it, it's just a circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:35 PM
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No, women should pay for dates because THEY prefer handsome men, funny men, intelligent men, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:19 PM
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You're proposing the socialization of sex, which is not allowed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:07 PM
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