Ok_Living8507 Archive

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1	Why is this subreddit under so much hate? The etymology of "history" has nothing to do with maleness. I personally don't associate the word "feminism" with being whiny. It was and is an important movement. Something like, "We need a fem-olution!" is kind of silly and maybe a bit whiny. The argument in the article you linked basically amounts to: women fought hard for equal rights and we should remember that. And I get it that working for women's rights is still necessary, especially in certain parts of the world. BTW, the article states…	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 06:00 AM
1	Why is this subreddit under so much hate? I might be crazy, but the title of a social movement - especially one that seeks to continue being relevant - should represent what it stands for. eg. Marxism, Humanism, Capitalism, Anarcho-syndicalism	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 05:09 AM
2	Why is this subreddit under so much hate? Feminism encompasses mens issues, minorities, etc. So, under your definition, feminism is basically social justice. Why continue calling it feminism?	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 05:05 AM
1	Why is this subreddit under so much hate? Sure, but men's rights isn't a global movement with major organisations, academic authority and a branch in the UN. FWIW, I don't think feminism is a hate movement overall, but to deny that there have been hateful people and ideas within it is like a Catholic denying that the Crusades happened by just saying "You've got it all wrong! Catholicism is all about love".	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 04:59 AM
1	Why is this subreddit under so much hate? It's not a movement for women Yeah, see this is the problem. There doesn't seem to be any agreement within feminism on this point, in fact on a number of points. You'll debate with one feminist who'll turn around and say, "it's not supposed to be for men. Men have to do their own work", then another will say, "it's gender equality and it's for everyone and for men too". In fact, another person on Reddit earlier this week said the opposite to you - that it's the Radical Feminists who say "feminis…	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 04:49 AM
2	Meanwhile, a new low from Ukraine: they are crafting the law to punish non-resident men who won't return There's a vocal right wing element here, but I wouldn't say it's most.	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 03:59 AM
21	BBC statement on men being trapped in ukraine They are heroes. You've tasted the stick. Now taste the carrot.	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 03:42 AM
12	Meanwhile, a new low from Ukraine: they are crafting the law to punish non-resident men who won't return Gullible? Are you saying this proposed law and the previous enacted one (keeping men only from leaving) are lies?	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 03:30 AM
7	Meanwhile, a new low from Ukraine: they are crafting the law to punish non-resident men who won't return Sure, if the policy applies to everyone, not just men.	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 03:29 AM
10	Toxic Masculinity Paradox It's a sociological term that was shitty when it was first appropriated by feminists, but became much more of a disaster as a mainstream slur. One of the problems that you've hit on is the false idea that men "have" it and women don't. It's not something you have or don't have. It is a set of expectations about what it means to be a man, and it can be enforced or enculturated by women - including feminists - as well as by men. A person (usually a man) can also internalise those expectations (ie.…	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 03:03 AM
16	Meanwhile, a new low from Ukraine: they are crafting the law to punish non-resident men who won't return Let’s face it- men built the world. I was with you up until then. That men historically tended to occupy positions of authority does not mean that we "built the world". Particularly when it comes to the social pressures placed on men and women that we often discuss here, these are the product of a system that emerged and emerges from the choices of men and women. The hand that rocked the cradle has a lot of power in that, as does the hand that signed the legislation. As a gay man, one thing I've…	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 02:44 AM
8	Meanwhile, a new low from Ukraine: they are crafting the law to punish non-resident men who won't return Sorry, I missed your edit. There's a quiet biological truth that shapes gender roles in society In my mind, this isn't about some observable macro trend or "biological truth", but about what's right. If gender equality is so important in peacetime, it should be just as important in wartime. If biology doesn't matter in peacetime, then it also shouldn't matter in wartime. Otherwise it's not equality at all, but convenience. So far, the only argument I've seen for fewer women fighting that carries…	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 01:58 AM
8	Meanwhile, a new low from Ukraine: they are crafting the law to punish non-resident men who won't return Forced breeding is much less common and way less publicly defensible than conscription. Because one involves forcing only men to do something, while the other doesn't?	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 01:22 AM
4	Meanwhile, a new low from Ukraine: they are crafting the law to punish non-resident men who won't return Finally why is noone complaining about conscription in Russia, where oftentimes it basically amounts to kidnapping? That's a decent point and it would be good to see a post on that here.	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 12:58 AM
7	Meanwhile, a new low from Ukraine: they are crafting the law to punish non-resident men who won't return The justification I usually hear from a policy perspective is that women tend to be the bottleneck for post-war repopulation (because gestation) By that logic, they would put in a law that women need to stay home and breed once the war is over.	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 12:56 AM
3	BBC statement on men being trapped in ukraine You're entitled to your view, but I just see even more blinkered opinionating on Sky. The best answer is probably to read a broad selection of news sources internationally, but that can be a lot of work.	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 12:45 AM
9	Meanwhile, a new low from Ukraine: they are crafting the law to punish non-resident men who won't return As an Australian, I might be in support of such a law if it was gender neutral. Otherwise, I'm outta here. China deserves to take a country that throws its men under the bus after telling them for years that everything else should be equal.	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 12:42 AM
33	Meanwhile, a new low from Ukraine: they are crafting the law to punish non-resident men who won't return God that vocabulary of privilege sucks. It's like these sociologists deliberately choose words that will be the most misleading and incendiary once they hit the mainstream.	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 12:39 AM
7	Meanwhile, a new low from Ukraine: they are crafting the law to punish non-resident men who won't return There is actually a post there now. Only 2 hours old, though. It'll almost certainly become too dangerous for them and then be removed. All sorts of excuses and platitudes are already being wheeled out, similar to the ones you see here - drafts are bad for everyone, what about wartime rape, etc.	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 12:37 AM
31	BBC statement on men being trapped in ukraine That's really quite disturbing, the literal othering of men! Who are these others, if not men? I'm assuming they don't mean non-binary people.	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 12:33 AM
4	BBC statement on men being trapped in ukraine Really? Replace one form of bias with another? I guess if you have them all then you have choices.	/r/MensRights	14/04/22 12:30 AM