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Lol if it makes you feel better to believe it then I'm more than happy for you to run with that rhetoric. That's just another age old manipulative tactic used to silence people from speaking on things that trigger or make you uncomfortable 💁🏾‍♀️.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:37 PM
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How is it not? Its in our faces everyday. You know the vast majority of women are not exclusively dating or married to 6ft+ rich, handsome men, that is actually more rare than seeing average or below average men coupled up because most men do not fit the "Chad" descriptions that a lot of guys go on about and most women are desperate to be loved by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:51 AM
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I know a lot of people not only care about relationships, but center their whole lives around chasing or being in one. Few people know how to function and feel secure within themselves so they look.for a romantic partner to parent or coddle them through life. Also, desperate women who chase romantic fairytales are more likely to audition and overtime in an attempt to 'prove their worth', so you cab extract everything you want out of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:59 AM
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I wouldn't and don't date men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:47 AM
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You've never seen short and unattractive men with a woman? I see all types of men have access to women. You men don't realise how easy you have it, many of you just have to lovebomb a desperate woman (and there's many of them) and you'll have them. Most women's standards are very low.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:40 PM
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Idgaf if it's not, none of us are special or unique. Most of us are very common and basic in this world. You, me, virtually everyone 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:24 PM
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Just like your comments, right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:21 PM
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Hell no! Plus, I don't date men period. I am saying, most women have low to no standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:20 PM
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That's just not true, virtually any man can gain access to a woman because most women are eager to be "picked" and flattered. That is why lovebombing works like a charm for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:04 PM
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Basically anything you personally don't agree with is considered to be a "shitpost", got it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:02 PM
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There are women dating and breeding with homeless men and men with no limbs. You guys really underestimate how desperate most women are to be "chosen" by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:00 PM
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Because its really not hard to be attractive to women Totally agree with this part, don't care about the whole relationship thing that many are so obsessed with. But most women really have very basic to low standards when it comes to being impressed by men. If a man flatters them and showes them with enough attention, women will cling because many are so desperate to manifest this childish Romance Fairtale that Disney fed them since childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:59 PM
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I think people have a habit of adding more of their own meanings to and complicating things (like sex in this case) more than necessary and so they attach their own feelings to the act. Safe and consensual Sex- whether casual, promiscuous or monogamous is not inherently "bad/good/sacred/defiling", it is a natural, physical act designed to bring mutual pleasure and reproduction (if we choose). Due to the anatomy of the male and female, sexual intercourse inevitably includes a male penetrating a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:23 PM
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Of course you men are not going to be honest and will be in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:18 PM
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What leverage? You both (men and women) are either trying to 'One Up' on each other or you are trying to Co troleach other and you both cry victim. You men swear you are so innocent and everything is "the womans fault" and women do the same, none of you are willing to look at your damn selves, take accountability and take Control on your own minds and lives. Stop whining about women and focus on yourself, you people are too busy looking at everyone else when the biggest battle and enemy hides wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:31 PM
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Discussions like these show that people do not seek genuine connections, they seek Control, Ego supply and Leverage. You people make me laugh with your frantic need to try and manipulate, mould and control other peoples behaviour to facilitate your own flaws/inadequacies instead of focusing on investing and governing yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:17 AM
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I am going to address this point by point because what you are revealing is a classic case of male grievance and frustration over lost entitlement and ownership of women: “Female promiscuity destroys society” No. What destroys societies are poverty, violence, lack of healthcare, authoritarianism, and male entitlement. Single-parent households correlate with economic stress, not women having sex. Funny how you blame women for outcomes overwhelmingly caused by male abandonment, violence, and refus…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:07 PM
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I'm going to need to respond to your total BS in detail later (IF I have the energy) because you are SO arrogantly wrong, self centered, ignorant and sexist in your reply that I can not even begin to decide how to respond to your foolish Red Pill rhetoric first.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:09 PM
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You can't even answer a simple question without whining about women and its to the point where it sounds like you are just trolling or venting your own personal issues onto women. Don't give me that "Man logical, women illogical" crap when your answer to every question is "but womens do this and womens do that". Thats not "logic", that is deflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:10 PM
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Because women having hypocritical double standards is a far more pressing issue than being slut shamed No, it's because you are deflecting instead of sticking to to topic at hand. You said: "No, the question is why is slut shaming wrong", that is the OPs question (which you still didn't answer btw) sure, but you was responding to another comment that was asking a different question regarding ones motive for trying to shame women for their preferences/beliefs. Because when things go wrong those s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:42 PM
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You didn't answer the question, you just turned it into a typical "but women do it too" reaction. The question is "What's your motive for trying to shame someone else regarding your beliefs/preferences?" And you just gave a childish and weak "because women do it too 😭". What is so "wrong" with a woman enjoying safe, consensual,casual sex as an autonomous adult human being and what is your purpose for trying to shame them? "To change the behaviour" you said? To what end? What needs to be changed …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:23 PM
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Two adults engaging in casual sex vs a man impregnating a woman and choosing to be a deadbeat... Not exactly the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:53 PM
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You still didn't explain why promiscuous sex for women is "wrong" to the point it should be shamed- you just expressed why you are so jealous of the fact that women typically gain easier access to sex than men that you want to shame and control women's sexuality in hopes to 'even the playing field' for you. Do you shame men who are naturally tall, fit and handsome enough to attract women easier than average to below average men too? Sexuality is natural to men and women and no matter how many ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:35 PM
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How on Earth is two adults engaging in consensual sex "bad for society" especially when people like OP thinks its perfectly fine for the men to do the same just because "hooking up with the average girl is no easy feat"? I'm f*cking whether you fake, double standards holding people like it or not. You don't get to dictate what people do with their own bodies. This isn't about "morality/society" for you, its about Control and conformity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:24 PM
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There seems to be a growing pattern of you not engaging with the substance of the argument, instead you’re litigating phrasing in order to neutralise a reality you’re clearly uncomfortable sitting with. “Clean a man’s house for free” is not a claim that the house is irrelevant to her existence. It’s a shorthand for a well-documented imbalance where women disproportionately maintain shared domestic spaces that men materially benefit from with little to no contribution. You know this fundamentally…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:50 PM
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Was that supposed to be a little 'mic drop' moment of yours? You’re doing that thing where you deliberately misunderstand an argument so you can mock a position no one actually made. No one is advocating for profit-maximisation, auctions, harems, or underage anything (very revealing of you by the way). That leap is pure bad faith, it’s a classic tactic people use to avoid engaging with uncomfortable truths. The point is simple and apparently threatening to you: Women already operate in transacti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:50 PM
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You’re not responding to what I said, you’re responding to a version of it that you inflated so you could knock it down. That’s classic strawman Let’s correct the record point by point: “That’s an assumption, women doing more housework doesn’t mean she’s cleaning his house." No. It’s not “swinging the dial.” It’s describing how shared domestic labour actually functions. When two adults live together and one consistently does more: * cleaning * organising * anticipating * maintenance that labour …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:02 PM
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Part 2. 4. “I won’t change my tone. That’s emotional labour. Use dark feminine energy and ignore it.” Aww, this isn’t the clever clapback you think it is. You’re not refusing "emotional labour", you’re simply refusing accountability and reciprocity, then mocking the concept to avoid engaging.Classic tactic for people with fragile egos: • provoke • demean • then accuse the other person of being “emotional” for responding That’s not strength, that’s avoidance. “Your standards aren’t unique — women…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:38 AM
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Part 1 I have to reply in two parts because Redddit limits the comment: Point by point: “Men don’t work for themselves they provide for families.” Men are socialised to "provide". No, that does not make it altruistic love or evidence of disproportionate sacrifice. What does Providing resources actually do? It: helps sustain their *own** lifestyle * secures status, legacy, access to sex, domestic labour, and care * directly benefits them regardless of relationship status A man working a job does …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:38 AM
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You keep yelling “logic” like it’s a magic word, but nothing you’ve written is logical it’s just emotional discomfort dressed up as rationality. That’s your whole style: loud certainty, zero depth. You don’t actually understand intuition or mysticism: Intuition = subconscious pattern recognition. Mysticism = symbolic cognition + inner perceptual frameworks. Both are recognised in psychology, neuroscience, and anthropology. The fact that you mock the language instead of the concepts tells me the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:18 PM
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Your entire comment basically proves my point for me, just wrapped in a softer, purple-pill tone.Ill go point by point: “I’m cleaning my house” Sure, but you’re also cleaning up after a grown man who benefits from the labor without matching it. Calling it your house doesn’t magically erase the gendered division of labor. Most married women do more housework even when they work full-time. So yes, you’re “cleaning your house” and facilitating his comfort. “I’m raising my kids” Again, correct. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:56 PM
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You’re flailing so hard you’ve mistaken volume for validity.Breathe, relax and get that blood pressure down Purple Pill. Let’s go point by point because your entire comment is basically one long temper tantrum decorated with question marks. “Men working for their families is devotion!! Women don’t have this obligation!!” You are describing economic self-preservation, not “love.” Men work regardless of whether a woman exists, for themselves, their lifestyle, their autonomy, their ego, their retir…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:27 PM
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🥱You keep shouting "BS" at anything that isn’t mechanical, measurable, or male-centric, as if reality itself needs to shrink to the size of your narrow worldview to be valid.That’s not rational thinking,it’s a coping mechanism for someone who can’t comprehend internal landscapes. Calling intuition "tree-talking" just tells me you’ve never developed the emotional bandwidth to recognise subconscious pattern-tracking when you feel it. You jusy mistake your own limitations for universal truth. Your …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:57 PM
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Define "worthwhile"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:36 PM
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‘Not with their clients’ wasn’t the point, nobody claimed sex workers date clients. That’s just an easy detour to avoid addressing the real comparison: women in relationships giving men emotional labour, sex, domestic work, time, and intimacy for free while he contributes less and calls it ‘love.’ Sex workers don’t date clients. But wives and girlfriends are expected to behave like unpaid ones. ‘women are free to chase the rare’ line also proves the imbalance: if truly reciprocal men were common…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:36 PM
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Riight, the classic “men do everything too” argument. Let’s unpack that: Ypur claim regarding "Money, paid work, yard work",yes, men often provide resources. That’s transactional and expected; it’s not unconditional love or devotion, it’s socialised obligation and inherently a self obligation whether you are in a relationship or not and wish to sustain your lifestyle. Emotional labour for women?yeah, men rarely match women’s constant, unpaid, invisible labour (which I wouldn't expect you to reco…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:28 PM
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Calling intuition “astrology BS” or sensuality “meaningless” just shows you’re viewing Power through a purely external, transactional lens i.e. attraction, charm, and manipulation are not the same as magnetism rooted in self-possession. Authenticity and rage aren’t “toxic” they’re human. Men who refuse to feel or own their emotions often label the same traits in women as dangerous. That’s projection, not reality. Self-possession and boundaries are not “individualism with drawbacks.” They are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:08 PM
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Clinging onto the same redundant argument I see... Not whining, not pedestalising just observing reality. Women over-give, men benefit. That’s not even an opinion, it’s basic behavioral and evolutionary psychology . Repeatedly calling it “whining” won’t change the mechanics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:03 PM
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“Sex workers don’t want relationships and kids” thats false. Plenty do (although not a problem if they don't as theres far more to human existence than romance and procreation). The profession doesn’t erase humanity, family desires, or capacity for love. The point isn’t promoting sex work. It’s that women giving their time, energy, intimacy, and labour for free to men who rarely reciprocate is effectively the same transactional dynamic, except socially accepted. Ignoring that? That’s how imbalan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:59 PM
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Honestly, this is pure textbook deflection and projection. Let’s be clear. this isn’t “blaming men” or inflating egos. It’s observing behavioral patterns and energetic realities. Yes, men, like women, have choices- and most men Consciously or unconsciously benefit from women over-giving. That’s not a personal attack, it’s facts of human nature and relationship dynamics. Claiming I’m “whiny” or “bitter” doesn’t change the data or absolve truth- women consistently over-invest, men consistently ben…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:53 PM
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I mean this respectfully, but I have heard the “Saturday on the couch laughing at each other” , "we are happily married" and highlighting pockets of joy throughout the relationship claims many times before. However, transactional reality is still real. Even in “happy marriages,” emotional labour, domestic chores, sex, and mental energy are rarely equally distributed. Small joyful moments do not negate years of effort, sacrifice, and energy imbalance. Laughing together doesn’t erase the fact that…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:44 PM
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Exactly, this is the raw truth that many people can not digest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:19 PM
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Exactly and that’s the point. I’m not advocating that women become literal sex workers. I’m pointing out the energetic reality and common behavioual patterns of such exchange. When women freely give their labour, attention, time, intimacy, and emotional energy without clear boundaries or reciprocal exchange it’s functionally the same as unpaid labour, and that’s what gets exploited. This isn’t about “keeping score” or reducing love to a math problem. It’s about sovereignty, value, and self-respe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:11 PM
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Right. thank you for your semi-detailed reply, let me address each point as clearly as possible: This isn’t about “all men” or “all women.” It’s about trends, energy dynamics, and transactional behavior in relationships. When I say men are more likely to exploit over-giving, free labour, and emotional investment, it’s not a moral attack- it’s observational psychology. Men do consistently benefit from women over-giving; that’s been repeatedly documented in evolutionary psychology, social science,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:04 PM
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Good for you, people need to learn to be self sufficient, at least before they even consider entering a relationship, but most partnered/married men are not just getting a 'maid', they're getting at least a handful of additional benefits (as listed in my OP) at a great discount or free. This is why most men opt for a relationship even if they can't stand the women they are partnered with unless they can find a new 'appliance' to replace her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 01:39 PM
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Oh, I’m well aware that the “average person is not special” — and that’s exactly the point. I’m not whining and I certainly have no desire or intention to nag or berate men into becoming better partners, I encourage safe distance between men and women. I’m dissecting human energy dynamics, transactional reality, and behavioural patterns in relationship things you clearly reduce to “compete harder” because your frame is still entirely survival-of-the-fittest and male-centered , typical Red Pill i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 01:34 PM
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More Red-Pill 'Nonsense', you guys are the some of the most exhausting entities to engage with 🫩 You’re missing the entire point because you’re still stuck on the surface-level “look/compete/score” thinking. This isn’t about weight, cooking skills, or “earning” a man’s attention like a checklist or audition. It’s about energy, boundaries, and transactional reality. Most women freely hand over their time, energy, bodies, emotional labour, domestic labour, attention, nurturing, and loyalty for zer…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 01:04 PM
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That is just another silencing tactic that doesn't intimidate me. Some posts seem repeatative because not all subreddits hold the post, we know how some moderators delete posts that they think are "too radical". Address the point instead of making old, tired, dismissive assumptions or don't engage at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:36 PM
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You're making the same lazy argument which assumes that I need to man to make me feel "secure". Why does me not idolising relationships and speaking the truth make you assume that I am "insecure"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:23 PM
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No, go off. This is a debate right? Go into detail and let's dissect this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:17 PM
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Aww that classic air of "you're just a bitter single" rhetoric, it's not like every single person doesn't hide behind the same lazy, redundant and assumptive quote whenever someone dares to highlight a truth that makes many of you uncomfortable. Even married women who swear they're so happy and found a "Unicorn" have warned women about the realities of relationships, acknowledging truth and reality doesn't = inferior/bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:14 PM
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Why should I spare you? It's true, this is why most of you choose to be in relationships as opposed to remaining single and paying employees to fulfill your needs and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:11 PM
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Apologies, I should've said 'Dark Feminine Power', here are a few examples: Intuition & Mystery: Deep inner knowing, subconscious depths, and connecting with ancient, primal wisdom. Authenticity: Unapologetically being oneself, embracing all emotions (joy, rage, devastation) without shame or apology. Self-Possession: Fierce self-reliance, prioritizing personal needs, and drawing power from within, not external validation. - This is Key🔑 Sensuality & Allure: A powerful, magnetic presence rooted i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:06 PM
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What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:03 PM
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Women in relationships give everything you listed to men for free, you've further proved how women sell themselves short and why men prefer to be in a relationship over paying for services. Also, even the most undeserving males are still granted free access to women who are young and attractive at times because most women struggle with low self worth and are blinded by Fairytale Relationship Delusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:02 PM
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We still live in a society predominantly filled with women who are: insecure, pick me's, desperate to be "loved", suffer from low elself esteem, delusional etc and as a result it often doesn't take much to entice a woman into a relationship. Are there men who struggle more than others? Sure, but most men for one can sense when a woman is desperate to be loved and chosen and secondly, most men just need to sell a Disney-fied "Happy Ever After" fantasy to a woman and she will pour everything she h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:56 AM
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Correction- men want marriage to reap the multiple benefits that serve them i.e. free access to sex, free emotional and physical labour, free breeder and nanny etc and they want the women to be Monogomous whilst they can at least have the option to sleep around without question. Marriage is just a glorified form are Sex work and Servitide decorated with fake Romantic/Destiny wrapping.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 10:31 AM
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Your personal feelings are irrelevant in the grand scheme of what I am talking about. I am not asking for people's personal and anecdotal experiences and biases in an attempt to debunk my claim, I am addressing a topic that pertains to a societal issue. How can you sit here, comment under my post and place emphasis on your personal and individual views - then claim that you don't care about what I say?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:28 PM
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Calling it a pipedream is a bit shortsighted. Not every community or bond has to look like a carbon copy of traditional ‘ride-or-die’ relationships. People assume the only form of connection that matters is one forged through endless struggle or dependence, but that’s just one model of relating. Low-attachment doesn’t mean fake, it means removing the illusion that another human being should be your anchor, savior, or sole source of meaning. In fact, some of the healthiest connections are the one…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 10:46 AM
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Agreed, but even the "nice guys" are not as good/nice as they try to portray themselves to be, many lack self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:20 PM
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So you made a false assumption about me just because my post challenges your personal views on what the 'correct' relationship model supposedly looks like. Again, we can discuss this, but regurgitating the same, dismissive "you're projecting your issues with commitment" narratives does not invalidate my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 04:08 PM
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Your first comment pretty much agreed with one of my points. Your second paragraph however: Sounds like you have personal issues that make you not suitable for committed relationships. Don't project your own life onto a general public. Most women prefer commitment and strong attachment over low-attached Fwb situations. That is something more preferred by men. Is very much an ad hominam attack with a prinkle of your own pathological theory about my character. Don't try to gaslight me. You didn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:28 PM
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Since you supposedly know me and you are yet another person running to the the made-up pathogising/psychological diagnosis route as a cheap clap back against a post challenging your personal views on relationships, then I give you the floor to continue to tell me everything you know about me and my life since you are a psychology expert and have had intimate insights into my everyday life and thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:40 AM
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You’re describing a subset of casual dynamics as if it were the whole category. Sure, some men treat FWBs as an endless roster. Some women pursue the “hottest” guy they can. Some people also cheat inside monogamy, ghost in serious relationships, or marry for money. The existence of a common pattern doesn’t make it the definition of the format. Low-attachment companionship isn’t automatically a “glorified masturbation device” any more than marriage is automatically “a glorified unpaid maid.” Both…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 08:07 PM
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You’re still illustrating the exact reflex I’m describing: jumping from “different preference” → “must be pathology.” Of course avoidant attachment exists. Of course trauma exists. But the presence of a trait or history doesn’t make it the universal explanation for a preference — especially when you’re talking about millions of people across cultures and time. A hermit who has literally zero social contact is not the same as an adult who prefers low-enmeshment relationships. That’s a false conti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 08:02 PM
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My post isn’t a sales pitch; it’s a counterweight to the assumption that one model = “real” intimacy. Calling something an “outlier” doesn’t make it invalid or unworthy of discussion — every social shift starts with a minority. Cohabitation without marriage, same-sex marriage, IVF, even women working outside the home were all “outliers” once. People already can live this way, but stigma, bad framing and lazy stereotypes make it harder. Threads like mine exist to normalise and explain, not to for…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:55 PM
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I think part of the disconnect here is in how terms are used. “FWB” for some people does mean “no love” — for others it simply means “we’re not in a traditional couple but we care for each other.” Non-traditional ≠ loveless by default. And I’m not disputing that most people may choose a conventional path. But “most” isn’t a moral verdict. Handedness, sexuality, family structure, work preferences — all of those have a statistical majority and a minority. That doesn’t make the minority less valid …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 06:42 PM
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I don’t actually disagree that we’re biological creatures — but biology isn’t a script we’re doomed to follow. Humans do all sorts of things that run counter to what is considered to be “natural wiring”: contraception, elective celibacy, same-sex partnerships, step-families, adoption, chosen families. All of those are now normal parts of life. Low-attachment or non-traditional connections aren’t an attempt to “skip” intimacy; they’re just a different way of structuring it. Plenty of people repor…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 06:37 PM
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This just shows how much we have been conditioned and reduced to such a limited mindset, many can not see outside of what has been perpetually fed to them since birth and I understand, but we reach a point where we can learn to open our minds to alternative options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:42 PM
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That’s completely valid — for you. But personal preference doesnt equate to universal truth. Some people need emotional intimacy to enjoy sex; others don’t, or they enjoy different kinds of intimacy. Neither camp is “boring” or “broken.” What matters is self-awareness and honesty about what you want, then finding partners who match it. One model isn’t inherently superior; it’s just a fit question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:40 PM
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“Most people want deeper love” is a statement about averages, not a rebuttal to my point. My post isn’t prescribing one model for everyone — it’s describing an alternative that some people (including me) find healthier. Averages don’t invalidate individual agency. Also, “deep” isn’t a monopoly of monogamy. Depth comes from honesty, self-knowledge and mutual respect — things that can exist in a low-attachment arrangement just as much as in a marriage. So yes, most people may choose traditional ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:37 PM
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You’re not citing “every generation.” You’re citing your impression of “every generation.” That’s not the same as evidence. In reality, people have practiced non-monogamy, open marriages, communal living, and low-attachment intimacy for centuries. Anthropologists, sex researchers and sociologists have documented these models and their outcomes. Pretending they don’t exist or “always fail” just because they’re not in your immediate circle doesn’t make them disappear. Also, appealing to Bill Burr …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:34 PM
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You’re implying your view is balanced because you name-check culture and biology, but the way you deploy “most women” still treats the average as a universal. Sure, on average women may prefer monogamy. That’s not in dispute. What I’m disputing is the leap from “most” to “therefore this model is unfulfilling or unrealistic.” Averages describe trends, not mandates, and they don’t determine whether a minority choice is valid, healthy or workable for the people who make it. Also, what counts as “fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:54 AM
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You’re still treating anecdote as proof of an iron law. “Everyone I know…” isn’t data, it’s a sample of your own social circle. That’s not arrogance on my side — it’s just recognising that your experience isn’t universal. Feelings can develop in any relational model. Plenty of “serious” marriages implode because one or both partners couldn’t manage theirs. The difference isn’t the structure, it’s the people. Some can’t handle non-monogamy or low-attachment; some do it for decades without drama. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 09:32 AM
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Right, so you’re framing low-attachment dynamics as if they’re just a sneaky/superficial way for “average” women to access “top tier” men. That’s a very narrow, sexual-marketplace lens and it erases the actual reasons people choose these setups. Plenty of FWBs aren’t about chasing anyone “out of your league” — they’re about two adults who don’t want a full-time partner, who are incompatible for a long-term relationship but still like each other’s company, or who simply value autonomy and limited…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 08:13 AM
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Stability and healthy upbringing are not inherently tied to a “traditional” nuclear family. Children thrive in environments where their needs for love, guidance, safety, and emotional support are met — not because of a marital status or cohabiting parents. Research consistently shows that what matters most is the quality of relationships, consistent caregiving, and emotional security, not whether parents happen to live together under the same roof. Single parents, co-parenting arrangements, chos…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:14 AM
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I get what you are saying, but let’s be clear: you’re presenting your personal experience as a universal law. That’s not analysis; that’s projection. Saying “inevitably, feelings develop” treats all adults as emotionally immature automatons, incapable of boundaries, communication, or self-awareness. FWB and low-attachment arrangements are intentional models, not emotional chaos by default. The difference isn’t in the potential for feelings—that exists in any relationship, including marriages and…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:11 AM
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Ok let’s unpack this: comparing casual sex or low-attachment intimacy to playing tennis is fundamentally flawed. Tennis is a hobby; it’s recreational, low-stakes, and doesn’t engage vulnerability, boundaries, or emotional intelligence. Sex and companionship—even low-attachment arrangements involve emotional energy, physical vulnerability, trust, and mutual consent. That’s a whole other category of human connection. Calling low-enmeshment FWB “hollow” assumes that depth and meaning only exist in …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:06 AM
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The classic “you’ll never get a real relationship if you don’t play by the traditional script” line. Let’s explore that. Choosing low-attachment sexual or companionship arrangements isn’t about avoiding relationships, it’s about autonomy, self-awareness, and creating connections that actually suit your needs. The idea that only a long-term, romantic partnership validates intimacy is a cultural assumption, not a universal truth. Many people thrive emotionally, socially, and sexually without a con…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:59 PM
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Here we go with the classic Red Pill lament: “Women divorce too much, men get screwed, everyone else is wrong.” Let’s unpack that. First, you’re treating divorce statistics as a moral indictment of all women rather than the predictable outcome of structural, legal, and social systems. Women often initiate divorce because they disproportionately bear the emotional labour, caregiving responsibilities, and household burdens in marriages. The “cash prize” narrative conveniently ignores that men hist…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:56 PM
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I'll have to say it again, I find it fascinating how FWB arrangements are treated as inherently doomed to emotional chaos, yet traditional relationships — which carry exponentially higher stakes: shared finances, legal entanglements, cohabitation, and long-term emotional labour etc are considered “safer” by default. Again, yes, feelings can arise in any human connection, casual or serious. The difference is intention, boundaries, and self-awareness. Two adults who communicate clearly and respect…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:46 PM
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Why not? Doesn't co-parebting exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:34 PM
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“Hollow” is just a lazy reflex when confronted with a view that doesn’t fit the monogamy-only script. My argument isn’t about rejecting romance — it’s about intentional, self-aware choices: structuring relationships to suit your life, autonomy, and emotional wellbeing. Serial monogamy, ENM LTRs, low-attachment FWBs — all can be rich, fulfilling, and deeply meaningful when the people involved communicate, respect boundaries, and know themselves. Different ≠ empty. Dismissing alternative models as…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:33 PM
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Not entirely true. Choosing low-attachment or casual connections doesn’t automatically mean someone lacks empathy or has a behavioral issue. Plenty of self-aware, emotionally mature people intentionally structure their relationships this way to preserve autonomy, reduce drama, or fit life circumstances. Biology may influence capacity for bonding, but it doesn’t mandate that every relationship must be monogamous, high-enmeshment, or emotionally exhaustive. Judging alternative models as inherently…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:28 PM
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Yikes. Seventeen years of “pumping & dumping” and somehow that qualifies you as a relationship philosopher? That’s not expertise, that’s a chronicle of exploitation. Your whole rant is built on a strawman: you assume women only pursue men for money and “prizes,” reducing half of humanity to caricature. Meanwhile, you glorify years of shallow hookups as proof of insight into human connection. Let’s be clear: low-attachment relationships, FWBs, or alternative models are not about “tricking” anyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:23 PM
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Funny, you’re treating FWB arrangements as if they carry the only risk of feelings and rejection, while ignoring that traditional relationships and marriages come with far higher stakes: cohabitation, shared finances, emotional labour, legal ties, and long-term commitments. People take those risks willingly for the fantasy of “chosen love,” yet somehow a low-attachment connection is seen as reckless. Sure, feelings can arise, but that doesn’t invalidate the model. Clear communication, boundaries…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:18 PM
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Ah yes, the classic “naive/teen/edge” + “FWB = male ego playground” pushback. Thanks for the effort, but let’s unpack this. First, calling my position “naive” or “cringey” because it challenges the default script is exactly the reflex I’m critiquing. Just because it doesn’t fit the monogamy-only lens doesn’t make it childish or edgy, it makes it different (I understand how resistant people are when faced with views/lifestyles different or unfamiliar to their own). Second, your assumption that lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:13 PM
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Thats not the point of my post. You are reducing low-attachment connections to a “hot guy roster” and implying women’s choices are solely about access to the most attractive men. That’s not what FWB or low-enmeshment arrangements are about for many people. Plenty of women (and men) choose these arrangements for autonomy, emotional balance, convenience, or simply preference — not to be part of some roster or to chase someone “hot.” Assuming otherwise erases ones agency and reduces adult relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:02 PM
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Again, you keep turning this into a question about me rather than the point I’m making. That’s exactly the reflex I’m calling out: assuming anyone who questions the default script must be avoidant, wounded, or defensive.This is a prime example of social conditioning. I’m not here to disclose personal experiences, because the argument isn’t about me, it’s about patterns and choices. Yes, some people are avoidant; yes, some people have trauma; but preferring low-enmeshment connections isn’t automa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:53 PM
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It's normalised due to social conditioning, but preferring casual/low attatchemnt relationships are not indications of or a response to psychological disorders or impediments. We are raised in a culture that instills the false notion that everyone needs to desire, pursue and enter Traditional Monogamous Relationships as it has be marketed as being the default and superior form of relationship. Since the majority of people seek to follow the same path and have adopted this concept as the mark of …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:46 PM
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True, where there's a will there's a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:31 PM
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You keep insisting that you “have no issue with non-traditional relationships,” but every time you reply you reframe my position through a pathology lens (“trauma response,” “avoidance”) instead of engaging with it on its own terms. Pointing out that pattern isn’t “arguing with points you never made” — it’s highlighting the effect of your framing. Saying “I’m fine with polyamory” doesn’t neutralise that framing when you then present my reasoning as defensive or avoidant. My post was about legiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:42 PM
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🥱This kind of (childish) reply is a perfect example of why I wrote what I wrote. Instead of engaging with my actual point, you invent a soap-opera backstory (“she must be a side chick to a high value man”) and then argue with that fantasy. That isn’t debate, it’s projection. The fact that you personally can’t imagine someone preferring a low-enmeshment model without secretly pining for a LTR doesn’t make it true. It just shows how deeply the “romantic relationship = only valid intimacy” script i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:39 PM
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es, this is exactly the bias I’m talking about. You’re not describing a universal truth; you’re describing your anecdotal bubble. Of course you “haven’t met” people who choose low-enmeshment relationships for reasons other than trauma — they’re not usually in therapy explaining themselves to people who assume they’re broken, and they’re not trying to convince others that they’re happy. Yes, trauma can push people into or out of intimacy. But it’s also true that plenty of people genuinely prefer …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:33 PM
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You are trying to re-frame what I’ve said into “temporary phase” or “self-protection” because that fits the narrative you’re comfortable with. That’s precisely what I’m challenging. Choosing low-attachment or non-traditional models isn’t automatically a stop-gap, a trauma response, or a symptom of avoidance. For many of us it’s a considered, long-term preference, just as monogamy is for others. If you personally believe high-attachment monogamy is the ultimate goal, that’s your worldview. But pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:24 PM
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This is yet another lazy framing I’m pushing back against. Preferring low-attachment connections does not “scream warped views” any more than preferring monogamy automatically “screams naïveté.” It’s a conscious choice, not an automatic symptom of bad experiences. I never claimed healthy high-attachment relationships can’t exist. I said that for many people, especially women who’ve carried the bulk of emotional labour, lighter models can be healthier. Reducing every alternative to “you’re damage…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:17 PM
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You keep trying to pathologise my choices instead of engaging with the point I actually made. Labelling something “avoidant” or a “trauma response” doesn’t make it objectively true, and it’s a common way to dismiss people who don’t share your preferred model of intimacy. Wanting lighter or non-traditional connections is not automatically “textbook avoidant behaviour”; it can just as easily be an intentional, self-aware preference. Furthermore, just because I have become more aware of the realiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:11 PM
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This is exactly the sort of framing I was trying to unpack. Many treat women’s preferences as if they’re driven mainly by biology or regret, but that’s still an assumption. There’s a long documented history of social, economic and legal pressures that have steered women into monogamy and long-term dependency with men — it’s not a neutral “natural” state. Some women do genuinely prefer monogamy; some don’t. Some have regrets about casual encounters; some don’t. And plenty of women who’ve had “goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 08:59 PM
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But you did assume I was traumatised which is essentially the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 08:50 PM
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That's fair, bur true love and acceptance starts with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 08:39 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 08:38 PM
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Why not? Why do most people assume that the Traditional Long Term Monogamous relationships are more legitimate and superior to any other forms of love/connections (including Self Love)? Other women are more emotionally compatible for women than men, so if women genuinely wanted an emotional connection, they would embrace connections and friendships formed with women, but most women seek male validation and approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 08:36 PM
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Another "youre just bitter/traumatised" quote...You’re assuming that anyone who questions the dominant relationship model must be acting out of "trauma" or avoidance. That’s a very common, but very lazy, way of dismissing different life choices. My post wasn’t saying “this is what’s best for all,” it was pointing out that for many people, less enmeshed connections are healthier. That’s not a trauma response; that’s a highly valid alternative. Wanting deep intimacy is fine. Wanting something ligh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 08:33 PM
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Thank you! Glad you agree, now people can stop pretending that Romantic relationships are these "sacred, pure, Disney-like bond consisting of Unconditional Love and worship".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 10:37 AM
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True to an extent, some of your examples do tie into my post about women giving men audacity and making it easier for males to disrespect them due to the amount of BS that many women tolerate, just to have a man in their lives. However, where I disagree is with your implication that an Anverage man is automatically the "good guy" who all women ignore. That couldn't be further from the truth. As someone who dates men, I and many others have given chances to the so-called "good guys" due to being …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:57 AM
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It was a bit difficult to understand some of what you are saying, but overall what I got what "men are innocent sweet angels who were turned bad because the evil women made them that why due to their ridiculous standards and preferences for the inherently bad Chads". So nothing is ever wrong with the male, he's Angelic, until the woman forces him to transform into a Devil, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:07 AM
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Right, at least someone understands.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:23 PM
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I was responding directly to your comment stating that you wouldn't take advice from a "bigot" like me. That, I don't care about, I'll continue to express my views when I please.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:22 PM
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I'm stating what exactly is happening, I'm not the first or only person to address this, many women are desperate for male validation and will grant access to the lowest types of males.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:20 PM
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Sure, part of our behavior is nature, part of it is learned, part of it is self inflicted and part of it is a result of social conditioning which we have to one day, snap oursleves out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:16 PM
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That is a complete lie that a lot of males tell women, however whenever women do give the so-called "good" average man a chance, he proves himself to be the same selfish, heartless, A**hole as the "Chad". Most average men wish they had the options and "leverage" that the so-called "Chad/5%" men have, but they work with what they can get. I've dated average males before after genuinely being more interested in their other qualities and the story always turned out to the best same, they start of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:13 PM
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According to Pew research, the majority of men over the age of 30 are in relationships, most people you encounter in day-to-day life are in relationships, most work colleagues are married or in relationships. We clearly live in a couple-centric society so why is everyone eryone pretending that the average man isn't partnered with the average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:14 PM
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You're right and I'm wrong, obviously the world is filled with women exclusively dating and sleeping with the hottest, tallest and riches "1% of men". Who was I kidding? There isn't a single "average-below average" male in existence that has even been granted permission to look at a woman, let alone date one. Every single woman in earth is strictly dating 'The Chad'. Or am I wrong about male nature? Nobody wants to be held accountable for their behaviour, not men or women. You all insist that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:15 PM
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I've gone into detail in another comment regarding this, but Pew Research states that the "loneliness epidemic" (which is largely false) is more applicable to males under the age of 30. In addition to those who may genuinely struggle to get into relationships (sexual and/or romantic), some other reasons include: single by choice, males choosing to be in 'situationships', some are still dating, some have recently broken up, some are only interested in casual relationships etc. The cases are not e…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:48 PM
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Then go and look for a panderer to fuel your Disney Fairytale delusions, it doesn't bother me 🤷🏾‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:14 PM
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As stated, we live in a system that programmes us to act outside of our nature and stifles our self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:12 PM
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Oh the "not ll men" spiel that women live to cling onto because they just have to be attached to a man. No, I mean exactly what I said, women are delusional, desperate and gullible. The second a guy gives you a compliment (because many of you are desperate for validation) you are ready to give you whole life to a male. Keep thinking all or most men are 'Prince Charmings' if you want to, life will teach you the hard way eventually, it happens to all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:41 PM
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Yes your points are fully applicable because we live in a YT supremist and Patriarchal society where the systems have been designed to keep men in control. Furthermore, most women are not in their Natural Feminine State, nor is anyone in their healthiest mental state. We're all products of this exploitative system designed to breed slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:37 PM
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If they choose to tolerate/accept certain behavior from a man that’s their choice. Why do you care? I mean why post opinions on anything since everyone is free to do what they want? Why do platforms like Reddit and comment sections even exist since everyone has free will? Yes we all have free will to do and choose who we want and likewise, we have free will to have and express our views and observations. Why do you comment if we should all just be minding our own business?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:34 PM
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Of course not, I only use average-below average men as an example because people (especially males) underestimate how easy they actually have it in this "dating market". It's actually easy for the average male to get into a relationship with a woman and many women are even willing to tolerate anything from average-below average men because most women are either so desperate for a man to 'pick' them and/or they're governed by this childish Fantasy of a "Happy Ever After",so they take whatever the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:31 PM
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I quoted what I was responding to in your post which was a specific kind of man: broke abusive fattys. So it’s ok for women to be used/abused by attractive men? You have no issues with that? Never said that, women are of course even more likely to tolerate BS if the man is handsome, but, rich etc, however I use 'average-below average' males as an example because most men assume that women only lower their standards/choose the most attractive/wealthiest men which is of course, ludicrous. That's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:28 PM
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Is many cases, they are, many have at least been 'that woman' once in their lives. People hate the truth, I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:38 PM
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If you live in the real world then you know I am not exaggerating, many women can admit to have given at least one "dusty" a chance, only to be used and heartbroken. Women are these least selective of the 'Female Species', even Female animals are more selective in their mates than many women are. Please do not pretend that you have never net or heard of women who have left you questioning what on Earth they saw in the male who mistreats/hurt them. A "Pick me" is a woman who betrays herself and/o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:36 PM
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All women are not "wonderful", many are desperate, gullible and delusional about men and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:28 PM
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I will respond to your snappy and defensive comment in more detail after my workout, btw I've had a read of your study and all it proves is that men need women more than women need men, not for all that Disney romance fluff either, but for survival and fulfillment of their own personal needs in life. Women are valuable resources to men, even though many don't want to admit it. Even the most hateful males can't stay away from women (unless they are openly homos*xual). However, women have been soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:27 PM
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Women wouldn't be breeding with low quality males, leading to a healthier population control.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:20 PM
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The males you swear are "good/right" men (you all say this) are usually the worst. Women are not innocent, aure, but many do fall for the 'sweet, loving, Prince Charming' act that many complain until they can get Women emotionally hooked enough to tolerate their BS. Most women are gullible and still hold onto childish, Disney, Fairtytale ideals of relationships which is also a major reason why they "choose wrong", they choose men based on the fact act they put on in the beginning of a relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:53 PM
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Doubt it, many women are still wearing the Rose Coloured Glasses of a 'Fairytale' relationship with men, oftentimes all it takes is a man to make her feel 'Special' in order for her to give him everything she has.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:45 PM
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Women would be far more selective of who they choose to reproduce with, instead, we live in a society where many women are having babies with any man who gives them enough compliments.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:43 PM
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Yes, it's often the worst type of people (regardless of looks, especially if they know who to prey on) who have the .oat options. Rich, hot, fit etc men have an even easier time getting women of course, but many settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:42 PM
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They're not responsible for the behaviour of males, but they are responsible for what they choose to tolerate/accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:39 PM
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Why do you guys use language like "SMV" to describe human beings? Many of you speak as if you are discussing Business deals, these are human beings either autonomy and a mind, they're not Cars, Houses or any other inanimate object.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:25 PM
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Have you seen who women are not only in relationships with, but some are having breakdowns over?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:41 PM
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Yes, honestly the worst type of men (as described above) are the ones who have the easiest time in dating. The very few who are more 'evolved', are more likely to face struggles since people are more drawn to trauma and toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:28 PM
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They can be essentially the same because casual sex or sex outside of a committed relationship (both of which exists in infidelity and hookup culture) can be done with 1 or more partners at one time or overtime. A hookup doesn't s strictly equate to sleeping around with multiple people. Furthermore, cheating inherently includes conscious deception and severe disrespect and disregard to their partners trust and boundaries. The nature if a hookup consists of two or more people engaging in consensu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:54 PM
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Does that make cheating better? Plus, cheating is not necessarily limited to just person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:31 PM
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Not necessarily, as stated people change, some might feel compelled to explore options that they never initially allowed themselves to explore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:28 PM
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How is that not the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:59 PM
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It seems promising that a growing number of women are finally acknowledging the raw truth about relationships and male nature and are subsequently opting out of relationships, but many are still under the 'spell' infused by the Rose Coloured Glasses they have about it. You might be fortunate enough to be surrounded by independent minded women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:25 AM
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Not always, that might be the initial reason for some, but people change, there is no guarantee that said people will be happy to remain sexually exclusive to 1 person for the rest of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:13 AM
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Its not, you hear it all the time if you listen, especially post breakup, most women will admit to believing that they finally found "the man/relationships of their dreams", people still use cringe poetic language like "my other half, the One, the Love of my life, my Soulmate" and overly romanticise their relationships to appear happy and successful to others. Most grown adults still hold very delusional, childish, Fairytale inspired ideals about relationships then get upset when their unrealist…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:11 AM
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It's very evident based on the fact that many still pursue a relationshop in hopes to get their 'Happy Ever After'.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:04 AM
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Unfortunately many of these are also grown women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 10:39 PM
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Most women especially have, they literally admit to believing in a "Happy Ever After" and "Prince Charming" story.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 10:08 PM
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Explain what Hookup/Casual Sex is? The nature of it is evident in the name alone, but when people use Hookups as a tool to manipulate others either to entice someone into a deeper relationship or fake a relationship to gain sexual access, then THAT is the problem, not the nature of Hookups (two or more consenting adults engaging in sexual pleasure). What do you thing the solution is? To arrest anyone who engages in pre-marital sex? We've seen what happens when society tries to stuff people into …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 09:12 PM
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Inhavwnt stated this, but your comment sounds like a good deal (minutes the 10 side dudes, I'd limit it to 2-3, even 1 is a headache), but it would be good to get free labour, financial gain, pleasurable sex and good food from them too without all the emotional complications 🙂.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 09:03 PM
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Evidently it does, you just don't want change.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 09:01 PM
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So are you insinuating that men are just mindless, passive zombies that have no choice but to senselessly go where the wind (women) takes them? Yet you also expect women to respect you as "leaders"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:59 PM
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You decide
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:56 PM
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Where they truly "limited" or just less known?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:49 PM
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Yes, back when people had no access to birth control and paternity tests, we have a lot of tools to help mitigate such risks today.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:46 PM
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Thank you for sharing this, I'm sure the OP didn't expect you to provide so much proof, but it is exciting to see a growing number of women expand in their field of work and skills 🙏🏿, I also work in a 'male-dominant field' and you are right about the benefits you can gain from Union contracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:43 PM
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I was going to ask the same thing, they're obsessed with arguing about the Draft and Oil Rigs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:40 PM
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Read my post again, Hookup culture/Casual Sex in itself isn't to blame for dating challenges - dishonesty, poor communication, overstepping boundaries, manipulation etc is what's the issue and it exists on a grande scale whether you are in a casual arrangement or a traditional relationship. I'm not downplaying it and your comparison with racism is a false equivalency as you have acknowledged. Casual sex/Hookups involve two or more consenting adults exchanging sexual pleasure between each other, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:35 PM
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People need to stop chasing the Fantasy of a relationship and learn to accept human (male and female) nature. Most people are barely even capable of giving themselves Unconditional Love, yet many expect wounded people to provide us with the love, security and commitment that we've been fed on Hollywood/Disney movies. Relationships are largely far from a Fairtytale 'Happy Ever After', this is a reality that mainly women struggle to accept, men largely want sex, free labour and an ego boost from w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:12 PM
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Sounds like he could've been turned off by how thirsty she came off, but yes, there are women who do desire sex/Hookups, but as you stated they get it so easily that they tend to be more selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:30 PM
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The male preference means nothing as it is merely rooted in a lust for control, power and ego stroking. I do agree with your advice for women to do as they please, as long as they are safe, informed and consensual of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:26 PM
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Yes, servitude for the sole benefit of the men, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:23 PM
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In manospehere/Redpill spaces their reasoning is more sinister and rooted in the need for (a sense of) control and ownership of the woman, the less experienced she is, the more 'mallable' she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:19 AM
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Why do men need to find a Virgin? Finding a virgin doesn't control their free will to explore their sexuality if they wish to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 10:22 AM
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The bar for women is impossible, men say they want a feminine and friendly woman who brings them "peace", but in reality they want a forever young, fit, conventionally attractive woman who will allow men to cheat, be lazy, serve them in every way with a smile, only open their mouths to perform oraL s-x and praise. As for the quote, it is definitely true. Men are only as loyal as their options and so are women. There are countless examples of women fighting over and giving average to below averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:01 PM
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What your saying is most applicable to White, young and conventionally attractive women, this doesn't even apply to all women unless they lower their standards (which many do).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:52 PM
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Women who have high self esteem and standards sure, most women do not have a high level of self worth to raise/maintain such standards, they're happy to get attention and be 'picked' almost by anyone who's willing to give her enough time and attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:13 PM
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They certainly are, many women have even confessed to the extreme lengths they have gone to please a man enough to be "picked" or seen as "irreplaceable".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:59 PM
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Lol how are they not? Men (attractive or not) cheat all the time, some of the biggest cheaters are broke men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:55 PM
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The fact that you accuse every disagreement as an allegiance to "feminism" very much shows how shallow you Redpillers are. I do appreciate some of the barriers that have been broken down as a result of feminism, but women can hold viewpoints of their own without being associated to a group. The fact that you even have the privilege of labelling any woman who calls out the volatile treatment of them at the hands of males as "Misandry" whilst knowing what Misogyny encompasses (vi0lence, r*pe, sexi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:45 PM
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The Redpill Community is awful, it promotes the hatred, dehumanising, manipulation and mistreatment towards women all so you gain stroke your fragile egos and gain a 'sense' of control, leverage and power. Redpillers are not about accountability, growth or healing, you focus on how to keep woken subservient to you to make you feel better about yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:26 PM
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I've seen and heard how Redpillers speak and behave, you're not "enlightened", you are manipulative, ego driven and power hungry. The duration of a relationship doesn't indicate a high quality relationship, there's no saying what dark secrets you and/or your partner have been hiding even after having 5 children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:16 PM
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Semantic cope. If a woman wastes years on a toxic guy who cheats/abuses her, then jumps to a stable guy after her value drops yes, she got used. Biology doesn’t care about your dictionary. Pair-bonding ability does degrade with high partner counts (Study: Kaufmann et al., 2023). Don't even get me started on the overused Pair-bonding lie you Redpillers love to regurgitate. That study stems from the observation of Priarie Vole Rodents who werw the few 3% of mammals capable of securing 'Pair Bonds'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:09 PM
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Cheaters is a reality show, I meant as in personal experiences that I have witnessed offline
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:48 PM
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Let's get one thing straight, women do not get "used", they have sex. Definition of sexual intercourse (Dictionary): " a sex act that involves penetration of one person’s vagina, anus, or mouth by another person for the sexual gratification of one or both parties" Providing that the act is consensual, then the act is intended to involve mutual pleasure between two or more people, nobody gets "used up", women are not cars or objects that depreciate ofter sexual activity (unless the act involves a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:37 PM
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Men say this, but many really do not respect, value or remain loyal to the women you mentioned, Redpillers expect women to give them everything for little or nothing in return because you see relationships as a transaction (which ultimately marriage/LTR was originally used as similar to a business transaction). It sounds like you want a Hot Slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:21 PM
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They do, I can copy and paste the reasonings I gave for why I think that too, I made a separate post about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:18 PM
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Very few women even stick to those standards unless they can gain access to those types of men (just like how the "10%" only pursue the hottest Instagram looking models they can get). Some may even state that and settle and ultimately obsess over the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:17 PM
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Everyone is superficial in their pursuit for a partner, men and women are as bad as each other when it comes to looking for the hottest and shiniest person on their arm, when those options are deemed limited or unavailable, sure some, women will "panic settle", but we live in a world where people largely gravitate to toxicity, drama and chaos. Abusive men always have women to abuse, manipulative men (for obvious reasons) always have women to manipulate/use, narcissistic men always have women to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:14 PM
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This might be the case on dating apps where everyone has this warped idea of having an abundance of options, but when you see who the majorty of women who are in or left a toxic relationship were with, it will often leave you questioning what attracted them to those guys. They are often very unsuitable or bad guys inside and out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:05 PM
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Real life experiences aside, have you seen cheaters?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:03 PM
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You don't think many of our thoughts and behaviours in this world has been a result of social conditioning at all? Does that concept scare you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:02 PM
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Sure attractive men may have an easier time pulling women, but there have been plenty of "average-below average" males who have gained access to women's love, (one sided) loyalty, body, womb, free labour etc all because they gave her enough attention. Many women crave attention and validation from men and plenty are willing to settle for whoever is willing to give it to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:01 PM
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Honestly, they're not always attractive, I've heard of women choose men who are clearly overweight, unhealthy, broke and unhygienic just because they were "nice" to them. Oftentimes you're left wondering how on earth these women managed to be attracted to some of these males. Sure, attractive men have it easier in general, but many "average-below average" males have managed to gain access to women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:57 PM
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What do you mean by "elevate your behaviour and value"? Also, the higher you raise and stick to your standards, the less likely you will find who you want because we live in a world where most people are forming trauma bonds or seeking someone to "complete" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:27 PM
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Yes I can agree with that, you have explained a very common relationship pattern. However, I find that the worst types of men have little to no problem finding new women to cheat with or replace their ex partner for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:26 PM
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Honestly, I've seen women desperately chase, cling onto, remain loyal to (whilst he's cheating), lose their minds and have mental breakdowns over low effort, unambitious, undeserving men many times. Seriously many women's standards simply doesn't go beyond "chase me enough to convince me that you will shower me with all the attention I want".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:22 PM
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I feel like this Sub denies a lot of things that clearly happens quite frequently in reality and are basing their views on opinions/experiences shared in Manoshpere and Redpill spaces. For example, it may be true (yo an extent) that the so called "top 5/10% of men get most of the women" but the women those men are with most likely run in their circles and are on the same (or higher) level of attractiveness, vanity and shallowness. Average women are not typically with "the top 5/10%" of men en ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:18 PM
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How so? Women have openly admitted this in their own stories about past relationships, this isn't an unknown issue. Many women have admitted that "the bar is in hell" and you know I'm not making that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:11 PM
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There are certainly a few who struggle, but it is honestly disturbing how easy it is to win a lot of women over these days. I've heard of women give a man everything just for being "nice" or "funny", it really doesnt take much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:09 PM
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That is true in some cases too as not all women are great themselves, but I'm talking about men with poor characters, low ambitions etc men who are actually bad partners, many women still choose to be with them. Women are probably the only female species that will lower their standards and scrape the bottom of the barrel just to be attached to a male. Not saying all men are bottom of the barrel of course, but for the ones who are, they don't always have the worst luck getting some woman to enter…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:31 PM
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Is that all you and contribute to this conversation, the same lazy old "it went all over your head" spiel? I understand the point, I think you are the ones not understand my point. I'm not saying that there aren't men who struggle in dating, plenty of women do too btw, but there average man is not struggling to the extent that some of you claim so many men are. I had an ex say the same thing (he wasn't tall, fit or a "Chad", just an average guy) and he managed to jump from his ex, to me and from…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:56 PM
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I'm so offended that a male would reduce the conversation to pitiful attacks (as usual). Anyways, back to the point, you can't dispute the fact that the majority of people around us are in relationships. Women have been conditioned to believe that their "value" is tied to their ability to attract and keep a man, especially from a young age which creates a spirit of anxiety, desperation and neediness hence the low standards many women have to enter a relationship. Most women will settle for a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:48 PM
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Not really, people date like they're buying a loaf of bread, buying a property is a whole different ball game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:01 PM
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I'm sorry you are going through those struggles and I am not denying the fat that certain/some males struggle. I even acknowledged that some certainly do struggle, but everyday we are surrounded by couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:30 PM
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Not entirely true, we can't pretend that we haven't seen countless cases where we have questioned how a particular male managed to attract their partner. Many women have low standards when it comes to men because their standards are "sell me a Disney Fantasy and give me attention".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:40 AM
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We can't deny that the majority of people we see out in the world are couples and families. Most people are highly codependent and like your cousin, can't even do things like dine alone without feeling embarrassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:37 AM
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For some yes, but for most, not really. I've spoken to everyday men who have admitted that the relationship "just happened" for them and they're normal guys, not "Chads, Alphas or Rich men".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:36 AM
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How? Why would you get so easily enraged by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:34 AM
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But my point isn't disputing the fact that some men struggle, I addressed this in my post. I was challenging the idea that most men have extreme difficulties in dating when life proves otherwise. Most men on average do not have as much trouble dating as some guys claim. I don't deny that the struggle exists, but the extent if it doesn't apply to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:10 PM
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Honestly these are just average, everyday men who are in relationships and jumping from woman to woman. I don't think we are honest enough about how easy and desperate many women are to get into a relationship with men because women worship male attention and validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:57 PM
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Dating and marrying them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:55 PM
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At least 48 out of those 50 men are most likely in relationships. What are the main types of people you see in your daily life (offline)? Lonely single men praying to have a woman acknowledge them or men paired off with their wives or girlfriends? Plenty of men are even juggling multiple women at once and they're not necessarily the richest or most handsome men either. As for your period comment, you males already make comments like that about women's period and pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:54 PM
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I'm clearly not disputing the fact that it is challenging for some men to get into relationships, my point is that getting into a relationship is not as difficult for most men as guys claim. Nobody can deny the fact that when we are out in the world we are predominantly surrounded by couples and families. Most men are in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:52 PM
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But do you understand by you even stating that "many more men are single than women" is questionable because who are these women in relationships with (assuming we are specifically referring to heterosexual relationships)? If more women are in relationships they are with men. Most people (men and women) are in a relationship. I understand what you are saying regarding options and I know that some men may have an easier time dating than others, but the point of my post is that most men on average…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:47 PM
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Unmarried, not unpartnered.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:39 PM
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My point is that the average man does not have as much struggle in dating/entering a relationship as men claim they have. This is proven everywhere, the moment you step outside and walk among the public what do you honestly see? An endless stream of lonely, depressed, single men or countless couples and families surrounding us? The majority of men are in relationships and even have children with their partners, it is sometimes difficult to find a man that is single outside of dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:37 PM
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Nobody has been able to prove that most men in the real world (not forums or comments pertaining to dating apps) are struggling to date because the majority of men are in relationships, that is fact. You all know this and I guarantee you know a lot of males in your own personal experiences who are all partnered, married and/or have children. I don't doubt that dating is difficult for some men, but you haven't explained or proven how it's so difficult for most men besides highlighting the struggl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:32 PM
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See, all men have to do is make a woman feel seen, heard and special and she'll be ready to date, sleep with and marry him. Women need male validation and attention so much that all it takes is for a man to be nice, funny and 'respectfully' interested in them to gain access to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:50 PM
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Yes because men know women desire relationships and the easiest way to gain frequent sexual access to women is through relationships, men giant additional (free) benefits from forming relationships with women such as free labour, loyalty, validation, ego boost etc. Also yes, men are calculating and picky, men will only settle for whoever they can gain easy access to at the time, but they're always open to the opportunity to cast their net out to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:42 PM
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Your "experience" is literally limited to males who depend on dating apps (typically in hopes to hook up) as "data", but we are all human beings living in the world and you know you can't deny that most men offline are married or in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:25 PM
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Exactly and it is pretty easy for most men, what about dating makes it easy for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:21 PM
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Well that is my point, men are sexually driven and they know if they want frequent access to sex they have to agree to enter a relationship with a woman because they know most women crave a relationship more than casual sex. Entering a relationship for a man is almost as easy as entering a sexual arrangement for a woman. Men are motivated by sex, women are motivated by relationship fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:20 PM
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You are making statements based on limited experiences like dating apps, but if you get off the Internet and look in the real world you'll find that the majority of men are partnered with a woman. I work in a male dominated industry and the vast majority of men (including the "short, unattractive" men that you guys swear all women are ignoring) are partnered, married and have kids. Women choose "low value" men all the time, men regardless of status, looks etc typically have no problem getting in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:01 PM
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Women only need to exist to be desribale for sex. Sex is the primary motivation for men and since men are aware that most women desire a relationship, many will seek relationships with women as a means to gain regular sexual access to them. How is stating the fact that the majority of men who swipe indiscriminately until they can filter out who they want a "non-argument", even men admit to this. Most men don't even like women as human beings, but they see women as resources who they can derive c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:56 PM
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Just like you're getting HEmotional right now. Of course you'll see nothing wrong with him being sarcastic and rude because this is the default reaction you Redpiller males give to anyone you disagree with. You haven't addressed the post either, what is so "ridiculous" about the post? Make a point like a civilised adult instead of running to childish comments like you guys always do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:51 PM
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I can't return the same energy that was thrown at me? Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:19 PM
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But it's not just my personal experience nor am I disputing that there are men who do struggle, my point is the average man can gain access to a woman for a relationship because most women crave a Fantasy relationship with men, many are even desperate to be in a relationship with a man and will settle or mould herself into what she thinks the man wants in order to be picked. That is an indisputable fact, look around even in your world, most men have a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:18 PM
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For one, women who get "hundreds of matches" are not all going to get a successful date from men considering that male users have admitted to swiping indiscriminately until they can sample enough women to filter out who they really want. Dating is easy for a (typically) young, fit white woman, but there are women with different traits who struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:15 PM
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Yes because most women are quickly jumping into relationships with...Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:13 PM
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Well that is my point, often these "average" men (who males online swear are so ostracised in the "dating market") have little to no trouble jumping from 1 relationship to the next. There are plenty of "short, unnattractive" men, the types of men many claim all women are rejecting (even though men would ruthlessly reject women they find less attractive than an Instagram model if they could) get into relationships quicker and easier than some women. I'm not imagining this or making it up, there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:10 PM
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They didn't, they just made a snarky, sarcastic comment without directly addressing the post like a lot of you Pilled Redditors do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:02 PM
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You can get mad all you want, but it's the truth. Most women live in a dreamworld where there are men who will have eyes for nobody else but them and will give them the Disney Princess treatment they've always wanted since childhood and men know how to play into that role (usually through lovebombing) to get what they want out of women. Most women wuther suffer from low self esteem, are naive and mallable (especially young girls) and/or are desperate for male approval, validation, attention and …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:01 PM
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But my post isn't disputing the fact that there are men who can't, there are also women who struggle in dating too, but the majorty of people (men and women) in society are coupled up, it really isn't as difficult for the average man to enter a relationship as some men claim it is. Is it difficult for some/certain types of men, sure, but on average, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:56 PM
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Thank you for sharing and I am sorry you had such a gruelling experience, at least you got the relationship you wanted in the end. I understand that dating can be particularly difficult for some men like it was for you and I don't dispute that, but in general it just doesn't seem like dating and entering relationships is as difficult for men on average as they claim it to be online. I've even heard other men brag that they are are "gatekeepers of relationships". Furthermore, there are more women…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:54 PM
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Thank you for sharing this and I understand what you are saying, I've heard about the data indicating a male loneliness epidemic, but this really doesn't seem reflect real life experience. I know one can argue that I am strictly speaking from anecdotal experiences (which is what stats are effectively derived from, reports of people's personal lived experiences) and I understand that there are men who do struggle with dating, however it is evident that most men are coupled, dating or married. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:44 PM
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I get that may be the experience for some men, but we all have an idea of what a "below average" man looks like, men complain all the time about how women overlook the nice guys for being short, out of shape and less money. This is not true, most women settle and in fact, the bar is extremely low for some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 06:48 PM
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No it's not, it's easier for a woman to get sex, but a relationship, especially with a compatible partner is nowhere near as easy hence why most women settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 06:45 PM
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Thats fine, but my point is that a lot of men claim that dating is so hard for them and men are experiencing a major 'male loneliness epidemic', but I don't see much evidence supporting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 06:44 PM
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It's not a cheap post, what is "cheap" are the sparky, dismissive responses that are not engaging with the topic at hand. Isn't every experience "anecdotal" to a degree? As a human being who lives in the world and has navigated dating like everyone else it is clear that whilst there are certainly males who do struggle, you can't deny that most men in the 'real world' (not Redpill/Manosphere/Incel communities) are not struggling with getting into relationships as much as many claim. You guys dema…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:48 PM
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You males respond the same way, instead of offering a mature perspective, you run to childish, sarcastic comments and nothing else. Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:22 PM
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Aren't you clever? Why not address my point, I go into detail at the top of the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:20 PM
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I have and it's just not true, explain why so many men are in relationships AND can jump from 1 relationship to the next?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:19 PM
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**Let me explain in detail ** I understand that gaining access to an abundance of (casual) sex with as many 'conventially attractive' women (according to societies made up standards) as guys want may be difficult for most or certain types of men, but getting into a relationship is actually so easy. Men complain online, but in the real world, the majority of men (including the "average-below average" males) are not only in relationships, but are also easily able to jump from one relationship into…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:18 PM
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Relationships are transactional, this is a harsh truth that people are heavily in denial about because it shatters their Hollywood Romance Movie fantasies about "unconditional love".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:35 AM
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Did you even read the response to your comment at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:35 PM
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You're just mirroring what I've said to you, forcing false narratives about me continuously and adding insults that I never made, you're the one being belligerent and stubborn. You call me emotional when you're the one getting yourself so worked up and going Karen on me over things that I've repeatedly told you is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:58 PM
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If the shoe fits, wear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:34 PM
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Also, if you think my views are harsh, you should listen to Youtubers like Princella The Queen Maker. You'll pass out over her videos about women and male nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:32 PM
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Great, now I can respond to comments that you purposely took put of context and even added insults that I never stated: Point 1. What did I say before that paragraph? I said that "I understand there are women who have a genuine aversion to sex for their own personal reasons (that have little/nothing to do with societal conditioning). What does this mean? That my point is NOT directed towards those women. The womennwho merely have a preference nut are NOT judgmental or trying to shame/police othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:30 PM
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Since all you did was repeat the same lies that I clearly told you was not what I said, I'm asking you to quote me and you won't do it. You pick out 1 word without context as a means to support your fragile rant. All that's going on here is I am saying that I never said anything you have accused me of and if you can quote me specifically then I can expand on/clarify what I meant. Instead of doing that, you go on an emotional rant and repeating the same false accusations over and over again. You:…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:53 PM
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Lol so you express all this outrage about me making false claims about women and your comment, whilst your whole reply was you doubling down on the LIES you continue to spew about me and my OP. It's astonishing how you can get so upset at the very thing you are doing. You forced that narrative on me (yes, like sheep like every other commenter did) that's not what I said, you know this and have the audacity to lie about my post even further just so you can create an argument. I addressed a specif…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:03 PM
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Did you actually read my post or are you just jumping on the bandwagon of everyone else's post? Don't lie and say you've read my OP because if you did you wouldn't be parroting the same lie and false accusations like others have, you'd know that I never said women must have casual sex and if they don't then they're not "authentic". Actually read my post instead of blindly following everyone else false comments. At least 1 person was honest enough to admit that they didn't actually read my post t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:02 AM
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Why do I need "luck" to learn to love myself and be whole and fulfilled regardless of whether I have a man 'choosing' me or not? I don't want to be a slave to male approval. As for the STI edit, that is a whole other topic that I have quite a bit to say, but I won't derail this topic further with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:04 PM
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So before I respond to your eager attempts to 'catch me out' point by point, we're going to have to drop this fake act that you and many others keep playing. We're not going along with the Lie that I believe women who choose not to engage in casual sex are to be judged and shamed instead. You're Not going to force that blatantly false narrative on me in a pitiful attempt to make your argument appear more plausible. You are creating a fake argument that way, I know you people are not so dense to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:37 PM
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Some can, most can't. Plus, I strive to form an unbreakable relationship with myself before I let anyone else in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:29 PM
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Oh the classic Femcel/You've never been in a relationship tactic designed to discredit a point that you find too uncomfortable to be presented with approach, can't say I haven't heard/seen that countless times. You have no idea what my relationships or life is like either, yet even you can't resist the urge to make assumptions. It's funny because you people really can't see how you prove my point with your own comments. All you did is reinforce the fact that you are codependent and need another …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:22 PM
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How? Quote me since you want to push false accusations so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:08 PM
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I recognise that tone and it gives an air of "I could never subject myself to that like other women", it's a familiar tone. What assumptions did you make? For one, you assumed I was a man, secondly you falsely accused me of wanting women to have casual sex for my benefit. Many of you have deliberately forced this (false) narrative of me wanting to 'recruit sluts' just for the sake of it and it's quite hilarious how much you are all willing to lie just to have an argument. You don't have to agree…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:07 PM
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They come with the Fantasy of building a 'Happy Ever After' with that 'Prince Charming', that's the only difference. Most of us like to live in Fantasy Land.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:01 PM
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I understand the need for us to exercise caution, discernment and safety because quite frankly, as long as we are in proximity to males, we will always be at 'risk' (it's alarmingly high when women live with their male partners). However, women shouldn't be shamed or feel ashamed for desiring sex whether its casual or not and we certainly shouldn't have to deprive ourselves of sexual pleasure just because society condemns it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:59 PM
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You tried to claim my point has been "debunked", but it actually supports my point further because I have expressed how women have been heavily conditioned to seek and depend on men for validation. We all know how women have been pressured to prove their 'worth' and 'desirability' by attaching themselves to men and we are aware of the time constraints imposed on women ('get married and have kids by the age of 30 max before it all goes downhill from there'). There is a lot of pressure for women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:53 PM
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Sure, but all the risks you have described are still pretty high even when exclusively looking for romantic connections, just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:42 PM
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You're a male so this applies to you even more because males are extremely codependent beings. Everything you described has nothing to do with genuine Love for a human being for being human, and everything to do with using that person as a tool to fulfill your own personal needs and ego. This is why you males especially, don't value connections that friendships, community, family etc because you just want someone who can give you everything you need for 'free' or as little as possible. You've al…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:40 PM
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Sure, what you have described can be obstacles for plenty, but the same is certainly the case for finding a 'compatible romantic partner', its even more difficult to find a connection where both people are whole, healed, independent and secure enough in themselves to maintain a genuinely 'healthy' relationships. Most people enter relationships for survival, peer pressure, neediness, loneliness or to assign someone else the task of filling their voids. People explicitly reverse this whenever they…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:31 PM
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Quote me where I said that everyone HAS to "be a slut".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:26 PM
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That is just a blatant lie you just told about me, you should be ashamed. You literally made up a narrative to fit your own agenda and it's disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:26 PM
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Yes, a man would say this (call that "Misandry" too) because males certainly benefit from being married or attached to a woman more than the other way around. For one, you males are extremely codependent, largely by nature, you need sex and proximity to women to help give you drive and purpose in your lives. Secondly, by getting a Wife you get the perfect benefits package of her being your Free: Cook Maid/cleaner Sex worker Loyal Companion Breeder Nurturer Therapist Status symbol Ego stroker Out…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:24 PM
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Many of those who are doing as I described (we all know about these types of women, let's not play clueless) are saying it for societal/male approval, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:04 PM
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I get it, you're all pretending to misunderstand my point and who it's directed to because you just want to argue and protest. You know I never said that women can't embrace their sexuality (whether its to be free or reserved) for their own personal preferences. You know who I'm talking about, so drop the clueless act.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:58 PM
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The type of women I'm referring to are saying it for male approval, we all know about these types of women so I don't know why you're all pretending to not know who I'm on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:55 PM
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Exactly, you are seeking a Romantic partner out of neediness, perceived loneliness and codependency, not true Love. True Love stems from within. You are disregarding yourself and your own value in favour of some man to give you everything that you should be giving yourself abundantly. I'm not saying we should never welcome or even desire companionship at times (I can barely function with sex with a person after a certain period of time, but I know that's due to my own lack of self discipline), b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:53 PM
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It is, look at how women pedestlaise and depend on men for romantic relationships and security, women have certainly been brainwashed under Patriarchy. Many even refuse to accept the fact that Self Love is more empowering, freeing and important than Romantic Love. Men of course will dent this because males are highly codependent beings, they need to be in proximity to women. Women have been conditioned to seek validation and proximity to men. It's only recently that a small, but growing number o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:49 PM
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So you've all decided to make the same false accusations in an attempt to support your own bias views/arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:44 PM
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Why is it "unpleasant"? I enjoy it, being emotionally involved with men has given me more stress and anxiety than a casual arrangement has. Feelings and emotions always cause me stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:43 PM
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I'm in a casual arrangement with a guy and as time has progressed we have become more sexually compatible, how? By listening to each other's likes and dislikes and providing an even exchange of pleasure to each other. Regardless of marital status, you need a person who is sincerely willing to communicate, listen and honour your sexual desires and boundaries in order to enjoy sex. A romantic partner doesn't necessarily guarantee this (we're aware of all the dead bedroom/sexual incompatibility sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:38 PM
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Otherwise, you’re trying to say “the only way for a woman to be brave is if she has a lot of adventurous sex”, which is obviously silly This is the narrative that many people are pretending that I've been pushing and it's clearly not the case. My point is clearly directed towards specific types of women, those who do judge and impose their puritanical values onto other women, not women who are merely existing and embracing their own sexual preferences without judgement or shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:30 PM
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Sure, nobody can prove or disprove whatever goes on behind closed doors, but we can observe behavioural patterns, experiences and conversations that can form a reasonable conclusion. I would never say that a healthy relationship doesn't exists, but again, people's idea of a 'healthy/happy' relationship varies based on their own needs, values and perceptions. What some may insist is a healthy and happy relationship might actually be toxic and harmful for others. Plus, it's often the ones who are …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:23 PM
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by your logic if women in mass decide to brag about how they made the world because they gave birth to everyone then it suddenly becomes a matriarchy? Not sure if I have quotes this correctly like how you've highlighted my quotes, but let's see. No, women do not collectively create laws, control information, hoard resources etc like the people (predominantly men) do and have been doing. In fact, giving birth is not even valued in this society, it's just considered to be a woman's obligation. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:16 PM
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Sure, but I don't shove my beliefs down people's throats in my daily life, I'm not parading the streets with my shirt and bra off forcing women to engage in casual sex. I share my own views and understanding if the topic is brought up, but will respond accordingly if someone tries to impose their views onto me or other like minded people. We are on Reddit, which from what I see is a place filled with people sharing their views and opinions, meaning this is an appropriate platform for myself and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:07 PM
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Predictable response from yet another person who doesn't want to be presented with uncomfortable truths so will run to the 'make false accusations about their desirability/experience in hopes to discredit their point' approach. If it makes you feel better about yourself to believe that I am a grotesque femcel then I am more than happy for you to believe it since you need it so badly, my point however, still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:02 PM
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No, a woman is "brave" for "Owning" her sexuality and herself as an individual unapologetically, IF that woman knows deep down she is sexually adventurous then she should learn to own it, thankfully we don't live in a society where women will be stoned just for thinking about sex with another man anymore. I know you people understand what I am saying, but you are deliberately misinterpreting my points for the sake of argument. You know I'm not telling women to force themselves to sleep with ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:59 PM
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Its impossible to romanticise your own life and give Love to yourself?You can't validate yourself? Even your general view on Love ultimately goes back to Self.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:55 PM
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Yes, because most people are extremely codependent and treat romantic partners like surrogate parents. Many people literally believe that live has no meaning without a romantic partner, as if a romantic relationship is the ultimate gateway to success, happiness, wholeness etc. You need to depend on another human being yo validate your existence like you need oxygen. This is why society looks down on and mistreats people who are Single.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:52 PM
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Ok and will I still have to type/copy the whole comment or just a few words?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:49 PM
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This post is directed to women who adopt the very mentality that I described, not the women who simply live by their own values and standards without the need to shame or impose their views on others. Also, there is a level of harsh truth to what I'm saying, it causes one to question why they think and reason the way they do, does this stem from their own frame of mind or have they adopted the mindset that has been programmed into us from young. People are extremely sensitive and resistant to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:47 PM
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So what system are we living under? Matriarchy? Men brag about how they "built the world", so under what system is that made in and who are the majority of people in power? I generalise the women who my point applies to based on the pattern of their behaviour, I exclude the women who this post does not apply to, it's not that difficult to comprehend. You are trying to spin my narrative in a way that you think supports your argument and I am not surprised that you and others would adopt this appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:41 PM
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If you read, understood what I posted and still came to the conclusion that every woman who have her own values regarding sex has been "conditioned" then you must be deliberately lying or misinterpreting what I said to serve your point. My post was addressed to women who actively shame and try to police other women's sexuality and impose their views on us in favour of male/societal validation. I specifically excluded women who formed their own sexual preferences based on personal choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:30 PM
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Her tone screamed 'slut shaming' and I responded accordingly, I know what was implied by that comment because I've heard too many women like that speak like that. My views are always in response to women who try to shame and police other women's sexuality. You talk about me putting words in her mouth, yet you make false assumptions about me and my comment. I never said women can't have their own desires and vues regarding sex, my comment is more directed to women who actively slut shame, but I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:23 PM
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"I'm fine in my own, my boyfriend makes my life better" that's "brain rot" and a complete contradiction. People can add positive experiences in your life, but nobody should make your life better than you. You all swear this is just 'Love' when in reality you are mistaking love for codependency, neediness and validation seeking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:19 PM
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Predatory, lustful, self serving, ego driven and competitive. These are the rawest aspects of their nature that only very few know how to effectively keeping under control.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:13 PM
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Yes but that seems to be the main issue women have regarding casual sex, the partners they slept with wasn't attentive to their needs so they assume a marital status will make a man more attentive which is not necessarily the case. A selfish man is a selfish man, a sexually inadequate man is a sexually inadequate man, women think they can control how men will treat them by using sex as a weapon and its not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:11 PM
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Sorry, where did I ever state that it was forbidden for women to have their own values and desires regarding sex? I literally addressed this in my first sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:09 PM
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This is where we need to learn about male nature, men largely prioritise sex with women, their primary motivation is to have sex with women, whether its in marriage or casually. The only reason why men Cosplay as 'Prince Charming' and sell women the fantasy of a 'Committed relationship' is because men largely benefit from being married/in a committed relationship with a woman i.e. free labour, free and unlimited sexual access, free therapist, a free emotional outlet, an ego boost, a status symbo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:07 PM
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Before I address your pathetic attempts to be condescending, how do I directly quote/respond to each point like you have done in your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:56 PM
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Re-read my comment, heck re-read my FIRST SENTENCE before you make up your own narratives to fit your own narrative. I am very aware of nuances, but I am addressing particular types of women who DO judge and try to police other women's sexuality, this isn't directed to those who have their own personal reasons (which you clearly ignored) and have no desire to shame other women for their individual choices. STI's exists like every other symptom we may experience in our bodies, but it has been pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:54 PM
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Sex with a person who is willing to listen to your desires and exchange pleasure are going to bring a pleasurable experience regardless of martial status. Most people feel "empty" or "incomplete" without a romantic partner in their lives, so what you are describing isn't actually "Love", it's dependency. You are depending on your man to give you what you fail to give yourself, most people refuse to become their own source of everything that will give them a sense of stability in life, they'd rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:47 PM
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And it's a win-win for only males correct? Women can fully enjoy sex, of course it requires an open minded person who is willing to explore with her and respect her boundaries and desires. Sex is not guaranteed to be fulfilling in traditional relationships either, but people still try to chase the Fantasy of a marriage/monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:41 PM
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Thank you for actually reading and understanding my post, people are making up their own interpretations of it which is to be expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:37 PM
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I know many of you are deliberately ignoring points that I already addressed (I literally acknowledged the 'personal reasons for abstainence' in my very first sentence) to fit your own narratives, I knew at least a handful of Redditors would do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:36 PM
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I get what you are saying and yes we have all been conditioned to adhere to society's made up rules on how to live life and conduct ourselves as women, but we don't help ourselves when we try to police and shame each other as women. For example, men will support each other in certain things, men encourage and support their insatiable desires for promiscuous sex to the point where women have accepted this as natural, men can't be shamed for their sexuality because too many of them are in solidari…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:34 PM
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No, its the judgement that comes with it and the unnecessary effort to put down women who are brave enough to own their sexuality whilst the naysayers are busy hiding their sexual activities and putting on a fake front is the issue being addressed in this context. I do understand why women will feel discouraged or uncomfortable to reveal their sexual nature, especially if they're surrounded by closed minded people who assigned themselves the role to police another woman's body and autonomy, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:24 PM
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This is the problem, people just assume that a traditional relationship is going be the Key to all we desire for our existence, many also assume that having sex with "someone who loves you" is going to guarantee a secure, safe and satisfying experience when that's not always the case. Whilst it can certianly be the case where casual sex can feel unfulfilling at times, the reality is virtually nothing in life is set in stone and experiences vary, you can be married to a person who is sexually sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:19 PM
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What is a "hoe"? Also, how am I trying to "transform" women? You sound terrified of female autonomy and sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:03 PM
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People attach their own meaning sex, which is their right, but my point is moreso targeting women who clearly use their status of sexual abstinence or saving for that Fairytale relationship we've all been taught to believe in as a tool to promote themselves as more 'superior' to women who are more sexually open minded. In regards to casual sex, my point is, if deep down you know casual or explorative sex is a deep desire, own it, stop pretending to be this Conservative, Puritanical pet for male …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:01 PM
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Are you implying that I've insisted women should have more casual sex for my benefit? I'm trying to make sure I understand your comment correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:20 PM
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Men behave the same way when it comes to relationships, men have always seen woman as 'property', one of the main purpose of marriage was to 'sell' women off to their husbands like cattle. Male nature is male nature and there's no "right" way to be a woman. All we can do (if we continue to engage with men) is learn to be as discerning, informed, self preserving and safe as possible, but we shouldn't have to dim ourselves just to make selfish, predatory males feel comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:14 PM
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Lol that's just a childish fantasy and yes, I will use quotations marks as frequently as I see fit, your comment won't deter me of doing so. I'm speaking more against the women who directly or indirectly shame other women for their sexuality and try to present themselves as being so pure and 'High value' in the eyes of men. I literally opened my statements with the acknowledgement that not all women abstain from Casual sex for the same reasons and I knew people like you would ignore that to fit …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:41 PM
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Sure, but this assumption that saving sex for that Fairytale relationship that many women believe in is also highly naive and unwise. If women learned an accepted male nature, you'll realise that males are males no matter what circumstances you become intimate with them in. As long as you are expected to "give your body" to a man at some point whether its during casual sex or marriage, you will still be "used" for sex and likely discarded or at best, cause a strain in the relationship when the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:37 PM
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That's only a 'benefit' for men, what have described as a "stable society" (this is a fake 'justification' used to legalise the control and policing of women's autonomy, another common manipulative tactic used to control your targets) is just a system designed to manipulate women into settling for and breeding with more men instead of selecting the fittest, strongest and healthiest males for women to sleep with and reproduce with. This is far from a 'stable society' because now women have learne…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:18 PM
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My point has been proven, why is that such an issue as a woman to enjoy her sexuality outside of a Traditional Marriage/Relationship? Obviously we have ro exercise safety and discernment and Casual sex does not automatically equate to = reckless , unprotected sex with complete strangers, nor does sex with someone you think you're in love with will guarantee you the security you think you'll get. The intentionally degrading "I don't just jump into be l with anyone" tone of your message is a perfe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:56 PM
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I did actually include this point further down my post, I tried to separate them into fairly small paragraphs so they're easier to read, but I get that there's still a lot of text 😅. I think a combination of Patriarchy, Religion and Peer pressure from women have all played a role in stigma against female sexuality, but I agree that women tend to be more judgmental towards sexually free women because they have their own agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:50 PM
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I don't know, I guess the Clitoris is just there for decoration right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:47 PM
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So true 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:46 PM
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I understand and acknowledged this in my first sentence, the post is directed to women who do have internalised Patriarchal views and shame regard8ng their sexuality, of course many will be denial or geniuenly may not be aware of it, but some will reveal this to be the case the more they talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:45 PM
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I'm glad you found my response so thorough that you thought I copied and pasted it from Chat GBT, but I typed this myself and you simply don't know how else to respond to it besides the typical, pathetic jabs that have no substance or meaning (yet you claim my response is "boring and predictable"). If you haven't got anything more mature or meaningful to say then you can just admit to it, you'll actually be more respected for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:15 PM
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I think most women in those cases are more obsessively focused on being picked by men and fulfilling this childish Cinderella/Beauty and the Beast Fantasy relationships with men and center romantic relationships more than anything. Men are similar, as they are extremely codependent and center their world around gaining access to women, not necessarily for the 'Fantasy', but to get their needs met I.e. free sex, free labour, emotional support etc. When people limit their world to societies (false…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:23 PM
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I'd say, with rare exception, most people (men and women) have experienced what you have described at various degrees. Rejection is a part of life for virtually everyone. However, we can't deny the fact that there are men who have little problem getting into relationships. I've seen and even experienced cases where men have easily and quickly jumped into new relationships shortly after a breakup, in some cases the women are left broken hearted and struggling to find a new connection whilst the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:59 PM
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Whilst this may be true for some men (there are always cases where people may struggle more for social acceptance than others), it is clear that plenty of "average" and even "below average" men have had reasonable 'success' in getting into a relationship with women and are far from 'doomed to a life of rejection and loneliness'. For example, I work in a male dominated industry and the vast majority of men are in committed relationships, in fact there are a few women who remain single (which in n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:08 PM
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Lol aww lovely, hope it all goes well 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:51 PM
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I mean, the same can be said about men. What they find interesting, women may find extremely boring. People are not "boring", it's just people have different interests, preferences and attitudes towards others.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:49 PM
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I never said "just put yourself out there", I said to put in the work to form a solid relationship and life with and for yourself. Also, isn't that what other men advise men to do? Go gym, get fit, make money and pull b*tches? I never said it was easy, it is difficult and seemingly 'impossible' for men but it is very possible, it requires a LOT of discipline, focus and intentional effort, but it is NOT impossible. Otherwise, what is the alternative? To continue to complain and be miserable? To m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:41 PM
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Well yes, there are many other ways for men/people to form meaningful and fulfilling connections that doesn't strictly have to involve romance or traditional monogamous relationships. Sure it can be nice with the right person, but it is not as crucial to us as we've been taught it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:13 PM
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What's wrong with that? You'll also have yourself, why is that not good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:10 PM
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I am a woman, a sex positive woman who struggles to go without sex and intimacy aswell so I know it's not easy, especially since men are far more codependent by nature (men and women are for different reasons, but men are naturally far more codependent partially due to their sexual urges). Therefore, I do understand how difficult it is to break away from socially conditioned mindsets and it does require extreme dedication and conscious effort, but the outcome is so freeing and empowering as oppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:08 PM
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How about, learn to love and value yourself? Learn to be emotionally independent and comfortable being 'alone' at times (there's a difference between being alone and "lonely"), truly take the time to get to know yourself. Most people are extremely codependent and are looking for a constant supply of validation, sex and coddling from another person instead of learning to be the primary source of everything we tend to rely on others to give us i.e. lave, validation, security, meaning etc because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:20 PM
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Sure, I founded NASA.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:15 PM
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So you don't know, you have given very vague answers to my questions and something tells me that you are not very interesting or fun to be around yourself. If nothing about a person or woman interests you no matter what they do, then the issue lies with you and how you choose to perceive life/people. Boring people usually find everyone and everything "boring", it doesn't seem like you take the time to actually get to know someone and listen to them enough to learn or find something interesting a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:59 PM
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I am engaging with you and you seem to fit the very description you paint women out to be (comformist, desperste for validation), but you lack so much self awareness. Furthermore, you're a Red Pill male so your ideology will be (and evidently is) in line with the Fresh and Fit and Andrew Tates of the world. Your idea of "success" is exploiting, it's clear on how little you think of women and how much you brag about essentially hoarding countless women as resources. You boasted about this. For mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:54 PM
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What makes my post Misandrist? I never said I hated men AND I stated that this applies to "people in general but I am directing the question to men in this topic". I did quote and address you referring to yourself as "local famous", your response reeks of arrogance and ego/validation seeking. There is no baiting in my post, but it helps me observe the mindset behind people who makes such claims. So far, there are more comments detailing reasons why they think "women are boring", but little infor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:36 PM
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I don't know how to quote your points, but I will ask you. What is a "good joke", what is an "interesting/good story" or idea? Isn't that subjective to people's personality, tastes and preferences? Some people may have a dirty sense of humour, sarcastic humour, silly sense of humour or no sense of humour at all so to assume that women are not funny or interesting is based on your own bias (and typically misogynistic) views. Maybe you are the problem, perhaps if you took the time to get to know w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:23 PM
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Thank you for sharing, you have made some interesting and understandable points. I think with the rise of social media and dependency on technology, the issues you have outlined have and will continue to become more prevelant in society. However , it's also important to remember that no matter how much more enlightened or different you are to people (I'm also speaking in general) you too have flaws, challenges and imperfections. We will never stop learning in life and about ourselves(if we are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:09 PM
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Accuses me of making a misandry post, proceeds to make a misogynistic comment, then brags as if you are some world class celebrity, I understand you feel inflated because you are "local famous" (something a "basic" instagram "baddie" would say, you sound just like the women you judge) just because you are rebuilding a "90s Classic Sportsbike"? You sound like a very arrogant and narcissistic person. What makes women so "basic, boring and predictable" because I still can't see what makes you so gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:01 PM
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You all say the same thing, Fresh and Fit make the same claims about their "success with women". You can be so-called "fit, handsome and well off" and still have little or nothing to show for it due to your poor character. Having young, thirsty, naive girls throw their panties at you the moment you flash your money and material objects doesn't indicate true "success", that demonstrates a transactional arrangement. Preying on desperate, insecure girls who are grateful to even get a crumb of atten…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:54 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:39 PM
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Stereotypes really, women just like to gossip, go brunch wear makeup and watch trash TV. Its fascinating because I've seen women explore and express interests in many different hobbies outside of the stereotypical list you have (although there's nothing wrong with enjoying these things). I've seen women enjoy thrills like sky diving, hiking, calisthenics training, dancing, cars, sports, travelling, volunteering, scubadiving, cave diving (never understood that one), skateboarding, weight lifting …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:38 PM
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Who called me boring?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:31 PM
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Ohhh my bad, dozens vs 4, that makes a whole load if difference. Yes you're just trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:31 PM
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That is an interesting point😄. Honestly men who are genuinely interesting or at least pleasant to be around are typically not the ones claiming that "women are boring".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:29 PM
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I specified the type of men that applied to, I said most men who make this claim tend to be those things and they evidently are. That's not bias, that's based on many observations and patterns of behaviour, therefore I won't take that back as it is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:25 PM
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Sure, there are women like this, but these are certainly not exclusive to women. Everything you have stated can and does apply to plenty of men. You're not this faultless, heroic, adventurous, superheros that you may think you are. I've encountered and witnessed plenty of extremely miserable, moody, boring and insufferable men and many women have. I've seen how men will try to sh*t on the parade of a woman who does love and enjoy life. Many of you actually can't stand women who are ambitious, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:22 PM
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I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or if you are just that dense. I'll go with the latter because you Redpill males are seriously as delusional, senseless and childish in your outlook to life as one could possibly be. If your only example of being so great is opening a lid for 3 out of 4 women, then you are certainly projecting your own inadequacies and insecurities onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:15 PM
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What experience? You want to see women as nothing more than sex objects, that's typical of your Redpill breed. You are the most miserable, Insufferable, abusive and dull breed of males yet you have the audacity to call women "boring". You can't even explain what makes you personally more interesting and pleasant to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:10 PM
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I mean, of course You would think that. What's interesting is men who genuinely are secure in themselves and offer/contribute value in this world even if it's just joy are never the ones parroting Red Pill BS spiel like you guys do. You're usually projecting your own sense of inadequacy onto women online because you think degrading women is the only way you can gain a crumb of relevance or "power" in your sad world. So what makes you so incredible?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:54 PM
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What makes you more exceptional and better than "the baseline woman" and I expect your features and phsyique are perfectly carved by the Gods themselves correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:47 PM
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So much bias in your comment. Have you seen the responses to this question and I literally stated that this applies to all people, but in this conversation I am directing the question to the males. What I've said is a fact and even the comments prove it so you know I'm not making it up. I also live in the world and I've observed and experienced enough to know that my post isn't false.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:44 PM
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Actually a lot of those men tend to hate women who are full of life, hobbies, interests, independence, personality (especially a strong personality) etc. They often stay away from them or try to 'humble' those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:01 AM
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You sound like a typical 12 year Red Piller, everything you have said is a direct quote from the Manoshere script, I've addressed your crap in another comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:58 AM
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You say that as if men were born with those skills. They had to learn through trial and error just like women would. Just because we live in a Patriarchal system, doesn't mean its thriving or good for everyone. There are men who don't know how to do the things you stated, all that means is they would need to take the time to learn those skills. Fewer women may be in those industries, but evidently women are highly capable of learning and developing those skills and some of them become more skill…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:52 AM
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I mean that is a typical childish, predictable and overly used Fresh and Fit/Andrew Tate way if thinking, that doesn't sound like that comes from your own mind, it sounds like another badeless Red Pill script thr you all regurgitate like Cult members. You males love to brag about the world that you supposedly "created" but you won't take accountability for the awful state of this World. The world wars, r*pe, abuse, poverty, diseases, pollution, discrimination, violent crimes etc are majority com…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:46 AM
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I'd say most people are 'decent' or at least try to be. I agree that the majority of people are just trying to get by in life and be happy, but humans are inherently selfish creatures and will inevitably (whether intentional or not) harm or inconvenience another person to fulfill their own needs/desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:17 AM
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"Stop wasting your time in a girl who isn't willing to fck you..." You sound like an entitled piece of sht, women/girls are not holes or objects for you to use at your will.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:15 PM
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How do men benefit more? I'm tired of this sexist narrative that implies that sex inherently benefits men and devalues/deprives women, that is just not true. Sex is designed to be pleasurable for both men and women and if both are safe, consent and enjot it, how on earth do men benefit? Sex isn't something 'For' men nor is it something women should feel ashamed of engaging in. Plus, there are plenty of women who have experienced dissatisfaction in sex with their long term boyfriends/husbands too…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:03 PM
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We don't owe our lives or autonomy to some insecure, entitled, imaginary husband or men. Women have a right to live for themselves, you know this, but you're just an insecure tr0ll who seeks control instead of mastering yourself, that's lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:45 PM
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Lol, I appreciate the honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:12 PM
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That's not a "benefit" that is control. How do you benefit from women being ashamed of their sexuality and right to autonomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:41 PM
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"Women hardly benefit from hookups/casual sex" what makes you believe that and speak so certainly on behalf of women who engage in casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:39 PM
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