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I think you might be right. he’s very young also, only 29 and ahead of 99% of guys his age. We know what we want, it’s “unconventional” in terms of what everyone else our age is going but we know we want it. I feel upset sometimes because girls my age are getting engaged and married and I feel uncommitted to and left behind
/r/RedPillWomen04/08/24 01:45 AM
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I DM’d you with some questions or perspective. From MY opinion, if you’re choosing a sperm donor based purely on genetic advances, you’d never pick a person. you’d go in a lab and pick the most impressive specimen and genetics known to mankind. Why will your partner not have more kids? Single mothers get “slack” IMO because it reflects on your decision making. i.e. poor choice in men. a REAL RP man would never, ever leave his kid or mother of his kid. a RP man recognizes how important the mother…
/r/RedPillWomen04/08/24 01:24 AM
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the irony of her “men have nothing to offer so dating is crap” line. as if she has is the pinnacle of feminine value, while displaying her body for sale for a mere stack of singles
/r/RedPillWomen11/04/24 03:11 PM
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Nope, never used them bc never had a problem meeting really great men (now engaged). I do not know anyone in my circle (mostly RPW) that have met a respectable high value man on any of the dating apps across several cities. Have they met men to date? Yea. High value? NO. None of them have worked out well long term. The only people I know in a Tinder or Hinge marriage are more blue pill / left wing. This is a RPW forum, if we just wanted any man at all there would be no point to this forum. EDIT …
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/24 02:32 PM
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While dating is a numbers game, pick your pond wisely. Not all fish in the sea are created equal. You want to surround yourself with the highest number of HIGH VALUE men as possible (not just men, period) to find the best partner - and high value men are not looking for their wife on the dating apps, that I promise you for a fact. Maybe a hookup or rebound
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/24 05:48 AM
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Honest question, and I mean this sincerely and lovingly - you ask “do I even like men / them?” when Id like to ask - do you even like yourself? Something is giving insecure vibes. You’re not old at 29…. Are you healthy? take care of yourself physically / aesthetically? are you interesting? kind? party behaviors / drinking behavior on these dates? If you’re good with who you are and in a position to demand a high value man, you need to change your approach entirely. For one, get off dating apps. …
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/24 02:51 AM
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Equally so, a RPW would not move in and stay that long. OP - you owe no man anything until HE proves what he’s willing to give to you. Kings used to conquer entire kingdoms to capture a woman’s attention. They would shower HER with the castle and assets and gifts, in the hopes the woman chooses him. Do not give yourself up so freely, as you’re giving off the impression that you are not to be valued and highly desired. When he says you “overvalue” what you bring to the table, that is an impossibl…
/r/RedPillWomen12/02/24 09:51 PM
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OP, if you emotionally feel like you’re not enough for him then his tactics are working. He is taking out his own insecurities (whatever they may be) on YOU. But, this is also two-fold; you need to have more respect for yourself, enough respect that you will not pay for someone else’s asset without any claims to it. This is where women get in trouble being unmarried too - nobody goes to divorce court during a boyfriend breakup, you have ZERO claim to HIS assets that YOU are paying for. If I had …
/r/RedPillWomen12/02/24 05:00 PM
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As a RPW in a relationship with another RPM - your man is not a RPM. I almost argue blue pill (they want their cake and to eat it too. read as: you pay half the expenses but still have to be 100% traditional woman) Has he always been like this over the past 5 years or has there been a shift towards a more demanding mindset? Relationships are a give and take. a yin-yang. Unfortunately, women have EVERYTHING to lose in these situations and I suggest you do some very deep searching into what type o…
/r/RedPillWomen12/02/24 04:30 PM
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Tell him that eventually you will wear skirts and dresses and eventually you’ll have sex and cook more meals then. just not right now
/r/RedPillWomen12/02/24 04:25 PM
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It’s very strange to marry and have a child with someone who does not see and treat you as a partner in life, no? People (especially men) typically do not ever change unless at their own free will. I wish you good luck
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/24 08:58 PM
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“not allowed to” is something we tell children. So, I ask honestly, are you his partner in life? Or, his child? I understand there are different dynamics across different cultures - but from a basic human level, even a RPW level, this does not sound like a RP relationship. Therefore, I have no better or other advice to give as there is none. RPW love and respect our partners because we receive the exact same in return - which it seems as though you are not getting. Personally, I do not have male…
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/24 08:27 PM
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Is your husband allowed to go out alone? is he allowed to have his own male friends separate from you? If so, you’re supposed to have your own female friends in your own female space. It’s natural, healthy, and every ancient civilization since the beginning of time lived this way. Men go to men’s clubs and talk about war, women stick together in their own village to talk about different topics. That is how the two live in harmony. It’s a yin-yang Without it, one party becomes extremely unhappy o…
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/24 08:22 PM
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I will add a tangent comment to this - think about the law of diminishing returns or gratification. The more and more we have of something, the less of a dopamine kick we get from it. With both women and men, the more we have of each other and the more frequently, it gets BOOOOORING!! Take trips SEPARATELY, cook meals SEPARATELY, go shopping and get done up NOT in his presence, things like this. This is how you always have something fun, NEW, and most importantly exciting to share with the other…
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/24 08:19 PM
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No, you absolutely need your own community or friends. everything outside of that is secondary. Pick one of your hobbies and make a friend group around that - for example, if you’re interested in crafting there are groups of girls that will go out in nature and do photography to then make a collage together. There are scientific studies to back this up - people live longer, both together and single, when they have a strong community and friendships. I urge you to read about Blue Zones - yes, foo…
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/24 08:17 PM
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Get out and meet or make friends. you 100% need your own social life and friendships. you’re dependent on him for everything there (dependence doesn’t have to mean money or support). you should be able to spend a saturday with a girlfriend or group of girlfriends Edit to add: what would you be doing if you were single in a new city? Doesn’t mean go out and party, but find ‘your people’ - I can GUARANTEE this makes your relationship with your husband better.
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/24 08:10 PM
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I’ll reiterate with FRIENDS and COMMUNITY are unbelievably important. Having real friendships and community lead to longevity, lower mental health issues in societies, lower crime, etc. And, of course, a healthier relationship with your significant other. Human connection cannot be underestimated - many RPW have the false belief that your man must be your only friend. he is your best friend, but not your only friend.
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/24 03:47 AM
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Unfortunately, I’m a firm believer that to be happy together, you must have a life of your own. otherwise it’s really a natural law that you’ll grow tired of one another. It’s very healthy to have your own independent life, honestly ESPECIALLY as a RPW. To have your own independent interests is not disrespectful to your significant other. I would suggest girl time - it’s important to have conversation in a group of people of the same sex. I sometimes feel women and men have separate conversation…
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/24 03:43 AM
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Especially if OP and the man are living together, work from home, have the same friend circle, etc. Too much of a good thing, the mind grows SO bored. When you have dessert for every meal of the day, you almost grow DISGUSTED of it. Same principle applies to married / LTR women as single women - everyone desires what’s unobtainable; while what’s easily obtainable is never desired.
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/24 03:39 AM
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Try something more mental, less physical. The reason things are so exciting at the beginning is that buildup of sexual tension. It’s all in your head (and literally… his… head.. lol) until you break the tension. That’s where passion comes from. After 10 years, you might spend too much time together (and too much “regular time” - distance really does make the heart grow fonder). I believe the healthiest couples maintain their own independent lives. without there, you cannot miss someone and build…
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/24 02:43 AM
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Mothering vibes are 100% what I got from this. It’s almost like a strange interpretation of the Madonna-whore complex. She could be mothering him to the point of disgust (maybe he liked the caretaking at first, but now she’s no longer sexy and sexually desirable to him) When a woman is so caring, and the man has a less than appreciative response repeatedly, we must ask two things: Is the man an asshole and the woman is dumb or beta? OR Is her caring so overbearing that it’s emasculating him and …
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/24 02:39 AM
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Because they’re NOT real RP Men. They listen to a podcast and suddenly make demands that their woman be a 10/10 but they make 90k a year and can’t support a family nor do they possess admirable qualities. That’s called incels and many BP men I would also classify in this identical category. Wanting the best women, but contributing not nearly enough to make those expectations (how can you EXPECT your wife to even have time to workout and be a 10 if you want her working and contributing in the exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:40 PM
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Of course it’s capable. I’m wondering what is OPTIMAL
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:48 PM
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If you read through RP Women, it’s very pro-woman. There is an accepted belief though (that I tend to agree with) is that in more primitive and dangerous society, many women would flock to the top 20% of men. Woman and men both want to reproduce with the best DNA possible - for women, it was way too risky and dangerous to have a kid with a man who cannot protect and provide. So, they choose man who might already have children and women because he has the resources to take care of you and your ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:33 PM
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Plates is a common subthread but is NOT inline with RP Women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:23 PM
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Many: women’s sexual strategies and expectations are different from men. Women are essentially the gatekeepers of sex, men are gatekeepers of commitment hypergamy / women cannot afford to accidentally end up with a lower caliber man men and women are complementary to one another the advice on RPW to honestly stay out of RP Men forums, as a lot of RP men on the internet are ANGRY because they’ve been programmed to think being a strong traditional man doesn’t matter (spoiler: it does) and now they…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:01 PM
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Same as who? RP and BP philosophy both have decent points… it’s like anything. the few rotten eggs give the whole batch a bad rep. What’s the point you’re trying to make? It’s not clear
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 02:40 PM
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You have zero grasp on RP ideology and principles. I would suggest you gain an understanding as I’m trying to do before bashing. Such a gross BP quality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 01:43 PM
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Actually, the large majority of women filing (something like 75-90% of those who initiate) state it’s due to exactly what I’m saying. They’re doing it all alone. Combine that with men who feel stressed out if the woman is making 40-50% or more of total household income, you have a recipe for disaster. Men usually don’t help with household chores and childbearing in early years, and in response they should provide better and more (although many don’t) I would also be pissed about being a SAHM wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 01:41 PM
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Sounds like BP women need better, stronger men in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 01:36 PM
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This comment is so BP in a nutshell. as 1 simple example, RP people tend to be on the more physically attractive side for a reason - we place an emphasis on the value of looks, health, natural beauty, etc. and, in response, start attracting better men (who work better jobs and are solid providers for a family who value women who want to be SAHM) Nobody has ever made me feel worse about wanting to be a SAHM than a BP Man projecting his feminine insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 01:34 PM
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As level of appreciation of value. To me, and many RP Women, having a child with a man who can’t handle the financial responsibility would be tough. It’s the reason mostly women file for divorce anyway… they’re raising babies, living life, AND making the money. so why do they need the man? They realize they don’t - and divorce him. If these men stepped up to the plate and were better providers, took an active father role in a child’s life, and protected their woman, they’d be more respected and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 01:31 PM
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It doesn’t mean men are useless or don’t bring value… what Im saying is, creating and bringing life into this world is SO valuable that the man should bring something equally valuable to the table (i.e. work, resources-money, shelter, protection, help, etc.) I as the woman shouldn’t be expected to bear the same burdens HE does (financial stress, safety stress, etc.) since I have a great biological burden with kids. So my question, AGAIN, is more about why are BP women so upset about RP women say…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 01:26 PM
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Haha - a too true sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:08 AM
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I think 45% is underestimated, it’s closer to 50-55% but point stands. That’s still way too high almost as if it’s not RP-BP but a society-wide problem. If men respected women, grew some balls, and achieved greater things + women let go of feminist crusading, stopped devaluing their sexuality, and also respected their partners we would have better relationships. To your other point - the women filing divorce are working class. it’s not higher socioeconomic status couples that are failing at a hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:08 AM
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To only your last point - my answer is NO. Media, pop culture, etc. is not supposed to be the example for what is right and wrong (even look at what they’ve done to body image… fat, overweight, unhealthy women is NOT universally sexy despite what the media wants to push) Some influencers yes, they are an example of this but they’re not the big ones as naturally their follower base has shrunk as generational beliefs adapt and change. What I would say on that topic as well is that in the era of fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:47 AM
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I am saying what is the BP explanation for why women are initiating over 70% of divorces? Women seem to be the ones fed up with men, and rightfully so. As a woman, why am I birthing and raising kids, AND working, AND expected to remain youthful and beautiful, AND more, etc.? So, what I’m getting at is - why are BP women still so willing to do this 50-50 contribution shit with low value men when the statistics are NOT in their favor?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:34 AM
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I love several of the points your making and actually really agree with much of it. Personally, my girlfriends and I have yin and yang partners. I think it’s a unique experience of more RP-leaning younger women. An offshoot goal of RP community is maximizing your value of the yin to find that maximized high value yang. MOST men do NOT work like this, you’re 1,000% correct. but there is a group of women that repeatedly find these type of men and the relationships are highly highly successful
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:31 AM
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This is exactly the type of insightful responses I was looking for. genuinely thought-provoking. You make solid points 100%. I have a question about your last point (mainly bc I’m involved in several RP forums on here) - what environment is truly best for the child? I feel like there are usually 3 scenarios: 1. SAHM does everything, absent father even though they are married 2. SAHD does everything with mom popping in for things only the mother can do 3. BOTH parents are absent busy working, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:26 AM
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I certainly agree some men vastly undervalue women in the household front. Do you ever feel men shy away from financial responsibility and accept mediocrity? Sometimes I feel nothing can compete with creating and birthing life… the least the man could do in exchange is provide some SERIOUS security without me having to worry about contributing to that (since women already do so much!)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:22 AM
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I agree 100% on the cooperation and team aspect here. I think where RP and BP differ is RP leans more yin and yang (different but equal - yes, I realize this saying has a negative race connotation. not what I mean here) while BP leans more matter of fact 50-50 split for equality Why do I believe this is the case? RPW communities speak about not wanting to work traditional job while the man takes on that responsibility since ONLY women can take on the MOST major burdens of having children. We als…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:18 AM
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Isn’t this getting at the RP point though that it’s never 50-50 equal? if you’re splitting bills and both working, what happens when you’re not working with baby and your husband doesn’t suddenly start making 2x to cover bills when you’re not working? And now when you ARE back at work as is your husband, do you both equally accept to split sleepless nights? He can’t pump, men have different bonding with newborns than mothers, men don’t have PPD, etc. it’s just the biggest sticking point that’s c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:13 AM
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Does BP have a solid explanation for high divorce rates following children (and the majority of these initiated by women?) who start out equal but things seem to change pretty quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:04 AM
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Yes - but I think there’s a huge misunderstanding of RP, as BP side doesn’t seem interested in understanding the nuance within RP that contributes to the greater principals that are largely simplified (as that always makes ideas easier to digest)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:00 AM
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Yes, many seem to forget it’s totally possible to look at “Red Pill” or “Blue Pill” and pull ideas / critiques from each, without subscribing OR dismissing either in totality. Thanks for your genuine responses
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:57 AM
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I would like to ask a question out of genuine curiosity - is it hard to find respect for your husband then? Personally (and I consider myself RP), if I had two under five AND was the breadwinner AND was doing household chores, and more, what do I need the man for? what is he bringing to the table of equal or greater value, after giving him the gift of life and lineage? Again, not asking to be argumentative - I am genuinely curious how the dynamic works there
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:55 AM
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Genuinely interested in your take here. How do you then view BP women views of RP men? and the generalizations rampant in this reddit rather than seeing the nuance?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:52 AM
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I don’t think I’m misconstruing, the mere definition of egalitarianism alone means complete equal distribution of respect, roles, treatment, responsibilities, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:51 AM
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I think my main question is around how much focus BP seems to put on being so utopian-esque. and splitting down the middle 50-50, when naturally there are roles the woman takes on and the man can compensate in complementary roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:48 AM
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I actually strongly agree it’s NEVER 50-50. The shift ebbs and flows. I just always wonder about the divorce rate - correlation is not causation, but most divorces are initiated by women because they think things will be equal, the have children, and suddenly snap to it and think “wow… I’m doing this all by myself now” Not necessarily a RP / BP thing, more of a sad society relationship standard thjng
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:45 AM
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And you’ve now given me a new funsies forum. It never sticks… double standards are a thing. Men will fuck these women, maybe buy them gifts, take them out, etc. but they NEVER ever marry them. Regardless of men’s activities, they don’t want their wife being one of “those” women.
/r/RedPillWomen03/01/24 07:57 PM
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I would really disagree that men are lining up to marry porn stars (yes, only fans girls are porn stars). It’s more of a total package deal when men see beautiful women - they are willing to compromise based on MANY qualities, it’s not that they’ll completely disregard number of partners or lifestyle choices simply because a girl is beautiful. We are talking about HVM here, not just any guy. As you’re probably right, ANY random guy will likely overlook this to be with a pretty girl. When it come…
/r/RedPillWomen03/01/24 07:31 PM
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bingo. I know plenty of 20 year old women who looks TERRIBLE now from self-inflicted poor behaviors and lifestyle choices. It’s does a number on you, but doesn’t show until your 30s. Women who stay looking young in their 30s look HEALTHY, and healthy is what’s attractive because it signifies youth and therefore fertility (biologically speaking)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 01:51 PM

for now
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:08 AM
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even weirder is someone who doesn’t understand internet sarcasm big comments to make for a dual income $130k 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:05 AM

I’m always curious how these relationships evolve when and if kids enter the picture. Sure, women can be the providers and men can stay at home. but there is one role you can never swap to be even - childbearing and honestly, most of the rearing. Women initiate divorce something like 70-80% of the time because they’re the breadwinner AND doing kids and housework. At that point, you might as well be single
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:33 AM
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well, look at what has happened in society. Women are working 9-5s and totally stressed, consuming a ton of alcohol, some participating in drugs, the economy is BRUTAL and there’s no time or money for self care for many.. On top of sleeping around for no value or relationship, added stressors of life. Many women as they age become overweight/obese (about 70% of US women are overweight), they don’t exercise or make conscious food choices, media and society is now pushing “body positivity” (newsfl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:18 AM
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let’s see his 1099/W2 talk to me in 40+ years
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:17 AM
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Not manifesting - it’s my past and current reality. Some of us know where we sit on the food chain because of the partners we attract and KEEP (going on 5 years married now) and how our lives are relative to others good luck to you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:08 AM
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Except that I’m living out my truth and have exactly what I am looking for. Glad you have what you want too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:05 AM
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I actually enjoy and appreciate comments like this. One less person in the competitive pool for real men cheers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:04 AM
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I would rather have a man who wants to earn money and provide something valuable to his wife and family than one who loads dishes. Women are so stupid today. you can have a man who does half the house chores, and I’ll take the one who puts me and my children and my family way above your tax bracket and therefore a superior level of security, protection, and opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:02 AM
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If you’d rather submit to a boss who doesn’t give af about you, that’s your choice Just don’t harp on the women who choose to do so at home in a better, superior environment with their partner of choice (btw - you don’t get to choose your boss the way you choose a partner) lopsided argument. you can submit to your boss and take care of a grown man child, the HVW will gladly leave that for you and your life
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 02:56 AM
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I also question - what’s the difference between submitting to your boss vs your husband? I’d rather listen to my love and partner. my boss can suck it for all I care - yet I guarantee you show up to work on your BOSS’S schedule, do the assignments you’re told to do, must ask permission for days off or vacation, etc… again, I ask, wtf is that difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 02:40 AM
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Never said being SAHM or SAHW was easy… it’s a full time job. choose your job. Also never said you submit to someone who thinks they own you. relationships are a yin and yang. For all you believers in genderless folks, it’s just like complementary roles. You might be good at cooking and wood shopping, your partner might SUCK at building things but is amazing at painting or accounting or tiling the bathroom… just complement each other. working EQUALLY (if not harder) than my man in the workforce …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 02:39 AM
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Because they LOOK younger and prettier than many, MANY women in their 30s. If women take care of themselves, exercise, eat healthy, avoid drugs and alcohol, good skincare, etc. they will easily still look and feel 20 while in their 30s. many (obviously not all or even majority) women in their 30s are overweight, wrinkled, showing signs of aging, and generally don’t look as youthful and healthy as their 20 year old counterpart. looks are reflective of how much you respective yourself (hopefully e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 02:17 AM
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Yeah context and experience definitely matters. You can still not rely on a man, have you own money, and choose a more traditional lifestyle or relationship dynamic. I even advise many women who want traditional relationships: DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR FREEDOM SO EASILY!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:44 AM
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To add - two of my friends are CPAs and lawyers. They would quit tomorrow if a man said he would take care of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:21 AM
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Really interesting perspectives you provide - especially about changing trends and booms in Asia. I will say there is a major trend in America with Gen Z women NOT wanting to work anymore. We are so over it, especially with the shit economy and seeing our mothers work, provide 50-50, and raise the kids 100%. they’re totally miserable, we don’t want that. Maybe it’s my own echo chamber, but I see it in many places where girls my age (myself included) most definitely do NOT want to work and split.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:20 AM
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As a RPW, I will say that I see a LOT of RPM making points and setting expectations without looking at themselves (aka halfway incels) They think making 90k per year demands a model girlfriend or wife. Or they want a woman who cooks, cleans, exercises, wants to be more traditional, etc. yet they don’t want to work their ass off to provide monetarily and not split 50-50. Lots of seemingly RPM want Eastern European or Asian wives because they are untainted by feminism. They will gladly cook, clean…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:57 AM
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sex doesn’t pay the bills, provide shelter, care for a child, etc. My original point was that sex is two different things for men vs women. What each side gets out of that connection is different. If you’re not getting anything out of it other than simply sex, in my eyes that’s a poor relationship decision. It’s like guys who fuck ugly gross girls “bc sex is sex” - that’s a really poor judgement call.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:52 PM
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I am grateful for girls (seemingly like yourself) who do not think your body and sex is something more valuable and highly regarded. Leaves the high value men for the rest of us :) ciao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:49 PM
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It has not been mine - it is statistically and factually the case
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:42 PM
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Protection fails. And if or when it does, many women find themselves with the WRONG type of guy to handle a child (financially, emotionally, etc.) sure, you can mitigate your risk. but that 1% chance something happens or fails, the consequences are disproportionately on the woman. Therefore, it’s reckless to not be picky about who a woman chooses to have sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:41 PM
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of course she can willingly choose. My point is, women are being reckless + young boys are disrespectful of women sexually. There’s a saying - women give sex for love, and boys give love for sex. Im alarmed by your inability to acknowledge certain facts of relationships, life, and psyche
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:40 PM
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If women like sex as much as men, why is it a common theme that women literally never orgasm with men or as a result of the man? It’s a constant topic of conversation that men get the pleasure, and when it’s about the woman’s pleasure she’s left unsatisfied. More than 90%+ of men orgasm when they have sex. For women that number is under 50%. I find the argument women enjoy sex as much as men at the frequency and multiples of partners relative to men just so untrue. Because for women, when you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:04 PM
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I feel like a lot of women here are pretending to not understand many things, including senseless sex. if they pretend there are no consequences (greater consequences than men face), they don’t have to face the reality of what they’ve done to themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:06 PM
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Well, some argue that senseless sex is truly not an upside. It’s hedonistic and sad. having sex with a real connection is above sleeping around like a madwoman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:09 AM
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my point is that the details and context matter more for women than men. It’s also evident by who high value men choose as their long term partner. Men will sleep with anything that has a pulse - but choosing a wife? suddenly it MATTERS who the girl is, how she respects herself when it comes to sex and partners, etc. Men almost NEVER choose the sugar baby, escort, girls who sleep around, etc. All depends on your long term game - if women just like sex and don’t care what type of long term partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:59 AM
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The upside to having sex is sex - FOR MEN. Promiscuity of women is a 21st century thing. without birth control, women would be MUCH more careful about who they slept with. because a 20 yo frat boy is in a different position to take care of a child (the result of sex) than an established, responsible, non-drug-using grown man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:46 AM
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Her body, soul, companionship, etc. Women biologically are more emotionally invested and connected from sex because women face the consequences of pregnancy. I’m saying, if you think about the risk-reward side of things, women sleeping around in college are taking HUGE risks for ZERO upside. sugar babies or escorts decide if they’re going to take the risk, at least get some security out of it (bills paid, shelter, food, man can financially support a child if that accidentally happened, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:49 AM
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Older men and younger women having a genuine relationship is totally normal in my eyes. Sugar babies are just high end escorts, BUT here’s an opinion I don’t see mentioned yet: I do NOT understand why sugar babies/daddies are demonized more than regular hookup culture. Women are giving up the goods for NOTHING in exchange to a disgusting 20-something year old guy who will pump and leave. Then she will repeat the cycle. At least the sugar babies are getting something in exchange… honestly way wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:16 AM
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bingo! I always find it strange when women vehemently deny guy’s honest and innocent efforts. aka not accepting the flowers or cab ticket or door opening… it’s so harsh and weird. graciously accept and move on, it’s almost WORSE in my opinion to embarrass the guy by not accepting. You can accept and still make it clear you’re not interested in an elegant way. Hold onto some dignity and don’t destroy his in the process. Follows an overall principle I have about people in general needing to be mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:09 PM
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Half way yes here. Not intentional exploitation, but beautiful women get special treatment from MANY men whom you aren’t interested in. If a man is offering to open my door, buys a trinket unsolicited, gets a card or flowers, etc. it’s not wrong to graciously accept and keep that in the friend zone. There are elegant ways to receive whilst not having romantic interest. leading on to keep receiving though? totally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:08 AM
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You’ve got it exactly right. that energy doesn’t go away, just direct it to something that is a healthier habit for the most similar high (for lack of a better term haha!) Totally makes you more magnetic, interesting, people feed off that energy. Ever seen someone and thought, why do I know they’re interesting? It draws people to you
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/23 01:19 AM
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Don’t take this answer the wrong way - it’s helpful! the analogy will just sound weird :) getting those texts or calls are a total dopamine hit. makes you feel good, it’s literally a high. people usually have the most success replacing one addiction with a healthier alternative (i.e. quit smoking, and go to the gym instead every time you want a hit) Find something else you get totally obsessed with and lost in. For me, this is my art. It’s so therapeutic, I get lost in the painting and hours go …
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/23 01:13 AM
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I totally understand your predicament.. Not sure how long you’ve been together, how far he is in his career, etc. - but it’s so important to determine what’s most important to you. I always tell girls date for NOW, not potential. if he can’t reasonably meet your reasonable needs or wants in a reasonably short time frame, it’s time for serious evaluation. you have one life!
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/23 10:47 PM
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This seems to be a simple risk/reward scenario. Different people have varying levels of acceptable risk for the associated reward. Some women are okay to give this up for their personal level of comfort when it comes to financial security. Similarly, other women see it as a major risk to be working during your prime years of your life. Good habits are established NOW (working out, eating right, quality sleep, stress free, etc.) so it’s a risk to be working full time and maintaining a relationshi…
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/23 10:18 PM
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You might not be as blue pill as you think… lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:28 PM
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I believe women 100% control that. If you believe they don’t, and all men are rapists, that’s a bleak outlook and just plain false. the percentage increase of incels does not necessarily mean the rule has changed - just means more men are violating nature and the woman’s choice
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:45 PM
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In regular balanced nature, women do control it. With normal men who aren’t incels, you absolutely can and do stop them from doing what they want. Every girl has been propositioned by guys who want to have sex, but the girls do NOT want to have sex with that person, and the men stop by listening to girl saying “No.” They WANT to fuck her, but she controls that. When men don’t listen to a choice is when you have the real problem - aka rape. Or, basically a disruption to that natural balance of co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:44 PM
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allows for it, but I’m saying nature’s default is women have that power because it’s naturally innate. I disagree that women only have power because men “let them” It’s a yin and yang thing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:34 PM

Interesting for a blue piller to believe woman only have power because men let them have it I believe women have that power because it’s the way nature intended it. When men reclaim that power and say “I get to reproduce and I’m calling the shots no matter what,” it’s called rape…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:22 PM

I think the bigger point is… Men overwhelmingly agree that some women or sex is better than NONE. If you are talking about the top 1% of men, yeah it’s MUCH more competitive and women have to work harder to be able to be with those men. But for most average joes, they’re not going to deny a woman who picks them because average joes don’t have that privilege of choosing from a lineup of women. The lower you go on the status totem pole, the more power women have in that selection process.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:29 PM

I 100% agree with you. Men can control who THEY are, but they don’t control who they are AND what women will like them for that. Of the women that like him, yes he gets to choose who to take out. but that’s after step 1 of women choosing to like him out of lineup of other men. Idk what the confusion is - women are the gatekeepers of society. even if they’re dating men who pick them, women still decide if they reproduce with said guy or not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:23 PM

You can have all the soy boys in the world - this proves the point that women do indeed choose who gets the privilege to reproduce rather than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:41 AM
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For someone whose username includes the word intellect, I’m concerned about the lack of understanding here lol. man reaction to positive is 1 woman reaction to positive is 1 man reaction to negative is 1 woman reaction to negative is 3 woman = 4 points man = 2 points 4>2 equals more total emotional toll or experience in totality. Now I need a drink break lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:08 AM
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but they’re not more negatively affected by emotion lol… they have stronger visceral reactions to negative emotion stimuli. That by definition means they are more emotional. if men and women react equally to positive emotion stimuli, but women have a substantially greater reaction to negative emotion stimuli, that means their TOTAL level of emotion experienced is greater than that of men. Details matter
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:04 AM
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Not at all what I said. It’s entirely possible women and men have the SAME reaction to positive emotion stimuli, but women react more severely to negative emotion stimuli than men. Negative emotion is the important factor here (think about how girls vs guys act after a breakup or death)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:01 AM
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Still can’t choose… this is perhaps influencing and attracting. But just because you show up in a Trump or Pride shirt, that doesn’t mean you get your pick of the litter. Women always decide as they are the gatekeepers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:55 AM
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Don’t think about the term women are more emotional in everyday “happy, sad, excited” terms. It’s not so much about emotional expression as it is about how women vs. men react to emotion, negative emotion in particular. will edit if I find the research article link, but women and men were subject to the same negative emotions and the reaction to that stimuli was from completely different areas in the brain for women versus men. the differences in reaction comes from biological differences that r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:54 AM
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You’re definitely in the vetting/early stages. That being said, there ARE important conversations like this that couples should have sooner rather than later. Is your boyfriend worried you will find HIM lazy for not doing housework on top of his job? You should have a conversation about the dynamic you are both comfortable with and want. Fast forward and say you have a conversation about this, and he does in fact thing you’re “lazy” for wanting this. Red flag for me. The sirens in my head go off…
/r/RedPillWomen29/11/23 05:55 PM
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Echoing this - those top 5-1% of men that “boss babes” want are usually interested in other characteristics not represented by the boss babe archetype. Regardless of RP, BP, PP, or wherever you lie, look at who these men choose statistically as their partners. It is never based on how much money the woman makes, her career, etc. And, before anyone comes at me saying “men want women with a career and interests and education!” - YES. They want a woman who is well-rounded as a partner. That means m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:33 AM
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As a follow up.. I don’t advise blind loyalty. Women are the gate keepers and men set the pace - a woman’s loyalty is pursued and earned by the man. When we reverse this natural cadence and balance (to say women should be loyal in order to earn the man’s respect), you as the woman have EVERYTHING to lose.
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/23 04:31 AM
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This might sound like a harsh response, but as a RPW I’m a firm believer in dating for marriage NOW rather than hoping it develops into that. Do men accept dating overweight unhealthy women because they’re “on the right track” to get in shape and take care of themselves eventually in the future? They don’t - they date based on what’s in front of them. And, many women should do the same. date for what is in front of you - when he mentions the hesitation due to career, is he currently pursuing wha…
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/23 04:28 AM
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