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FeminismOk_Pressure_3323/r/MensRights07/05/21 03:38 PM
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I am glad to know this. The human population is self-regulating. Mice do the same, for example: when resources are scarce or the area is overpopulated they stop re-spawning.This is wise because a population that grows out of control is bound to go extinct. Mice too will have some trouble paying pensions but at least they won't collapse their environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:59 AM
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OK! I got it. But it is only possible if each of the two earns at least half of the family expenses ...
/r/MensRights17/05/21 05:24 PM
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That is, in a relationship, the total earnings are divided exactly in half? Even if only one of the two has a paid job?
/r/MensRights17/05/21 05:20 PM
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I have a question, I don't know English well and I don't understand what "split i 50/50" refers to, can you help me understand?
/r/MensRights17/05/21 05:15 PM
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In Italy I don't feel bad. Sometimes I find problems with some topics but I feel that the male cause is also observed (even by feminists). There are also many problems of discrimination against women (within the family), but I don't want to compete with who is worse off. Surely there is still a long way to go, for example on the awareness of psychological violence against men. Now I live in Spain and the situation seems slightly worse to me (more radical feminism)
/r/MensRights11/05/21 02:26 PM
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A Finn had a laugh
/r/MensRights11/05/21 10:27 AM
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In my country (Italy) feminism is not that radical, and extreme interventions are denounced by the feminist community itself. There is also a feminist movement against pink quotas and welfare measures that disadvantage men. I can talk about men rights without being attacked. Certainly there are extremes, but I would not say that they are consistent part of the general opinion.
/r/MensRights11/05/21 09:57 AM
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I must admit that I have had experiences similar to what you describe. But I also had very fruitful talks. When you manage to create a collaborative, rather than competitive environment, the interlocutors realize that many of women's problems can be addressed by addressing the discrimination of men. Collaboration is also convenient for MRM because competing to see who is worse off is not only ridiculous (on both sides), but always ends up favoring feminism (according to public opinion). I consid…
/r/MensRights11/05/21 09:45 AM
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No I refuse some concepts of feminism, but I am grateful to the historical movement and I have taken many concepts from it. No one of my feminist friends think that a male can not be discriminated
/r/MensRights11/05/21 07:03 AM
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quite right
/r/MensRights10/05/21 02:45 PM
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That wasn't me! I think that assigning the values ​​of our society to history or to other societies is wrong.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 09:48 AM
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I do not think that "women have always been worse off", indeed I have just said that I'm a MRA too! It is just an opinion divergence. I accept part of feminism and part of the MRA, and I see limits in both rhetoric. Mainly the race to see who is worse off seems ridiculous to me
/r/MensRights10/05/21 09:41 AM
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The point is not to reject dialogue and not to create a competition for who is worse off (which many feminists and many MRAs do). Conflict is not convenient for the MRA, it seems clear to me from how public opinion sees us.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 09:20 AM
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"as I can easily do with my feminist friends"
/r/MensRights10/05/21 09:15 AM
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One important thing for me is not to set up the MRA complaints as competition for the most discriminated gender.This would help to talk about the problems of men. I would add that, in my opinion, the best way to have better male rights is to find a constructive dialogue with moderate feminism (as I can easily do with my feminist friends).
/r/MensRights10/05/21 08:21 AM
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Twitter must be eliminated from the face of the earth
/r/MensRights10/05/21 07:29 AM
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I'm a feminist and a MRA
/r/MensRights10/05/21 07:22 AM
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Not for me. I love women, I'm here to talk about men rights.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 07:21 AM
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hi, thank you very much for your contribution. I ask you to ignore those who attack you, as in all movements, the ones that make the most noise are the ones to listen to the least. The men's rights movement also welcomes many 'moderates' like me, who, for example, do not deny the problems of women or the achievements of feminism (which has contradictions, I don't deny it). It is always important to remember that it is not a competition to see who is worse off, the goal is that no one feels discr…
/r/MensRights10/05/21 07:14 AM
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There are a lot of moderate people in this same group, but they don't make as much noise as you do. Search the comments, but I'm pretty sure you already know. I also invite you to learn more about feminism. In any case I will not continue to argue with those who call me a liar, bye Bye.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 06:51 PM
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We have to deal with women problems to find a dialogue . The same thing happened to me with my feminist friends: after showing empathy, interest in women's problems, a constructive dialogue was built and I was able to easily introduce the discourse of male discrimination. Very useful to underline how many of women's problems can be solved by giving men rights and new perspectives (example: raising children)
/r/MensRights09/05/21 06:23 PM
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Ok we agree. The original soul of this post was the search for a dialogue with feminism (which should favor the MRA) and the warning that focusing the group's posts on extremist feminism does not help dialogue
/r/MensRights09/05/21 06:15 PM
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The point is that we must add man to feminist discourse, or at least to public discourse. I can do it with my feminist friends, I don't see why it can't be done with the dominant discourse. What is evident is that attacking all feminism is counterproductive also for practical purposes (the movements appears Misogynist) Let's not forget that many members of this group (myself included) do not reject all feminism, indeed they are grateful for a part of it.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 06:02 PM
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La ragione è dei fessi. Look on this same group or find feminist friends if you are interested in other more "moderate" positions towards feminism.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 05:49 PM
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Anthropology would help you understand that there are many ways of building societies and distributing tasks between the sexes. Living advice. I repeat, if you don't believe me, don't intervene. But it is very sad that you do not believe that anyone can safely talk to that strange beast called"feminist" (Relationship problems?) In any case, I don't understand what my intent could be other than trying to build a dialogue between feminism and MRM, if you don't think it's possible, I repeat, refrai…
/r/MensRights09/05/21 12:37 PM
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Do you deny the existence of a toxic misogynist MRM? The existence of contributions capable of generating victimhood? To me it seems like a competition to see who is most discriminated against. If you disagree you can simply say: no I think, every post in this group is open to dialogue and the only reason nobody listens to us is feminism. I simply mentioned that empathy is more accomplished than confrontation. It has often worked for me.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 07:19 AM
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Do you ever read a book of anthropology? do you deny that I have had a profitable conversation with feminists? I have expressed my opinion and experience, if you do not believe it, do not intervene.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 07:04 AM
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For how you talk about society and gender roles, I just have to recommend a course in general anthropology. Since you think the topic is little or not at all interesting, please do not intervene because it does not seem constructive at all (you do nothing but trivialize and insult).
/r/MensRights08/05/21 09:38 PM
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I don't understand how this single point, even if right, can take away the importance of what I say. I want the role of man in society to be re-discussed (not just strenuous jobs) and I appreciate the contribution of the more moderate components of feminism. The most important point seems to me to be the criticism of the logic of the alpha male, which must start from the males. Otherwise, how do you suggest to act when I meet feminists who admit and are worry about the discrimination of men? (My…
/r/MensRights08/05/21 08:33 PM
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Real everyday life (mine).
/r/MensRights08/05/21 03:32 PM
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Yes, society must stop enforcing traditional rules of men. Many feminist women friends of mine agree. It Is good or not too find a dialogue? I think yes.
/r/MensRights08/05/21 12:51 PM
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Maybe expressed myself badly: I quietly talked about men's rights with feminist women and they agreed with many points. I have noticed that being informed and interested about female gender issues generates empathy and you can make truly productive speeches. Of course there are always exceptions.
/r/MensRights08/05/21 10:57 AM
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1I agree that the mentality of some women must also change (in fact my post talked about how to create a fruitful dialogue between sexes) 2I agree that society itself is giving too much importance to the productive and individualistic sphere (once assigned to man). Now both women and men behave like men (pass me the simplification). In fact, what we must propose is a profound change in principles and values of societies. Less work, less competition, more sociability and family. And this can happ…
/r/MensRights08/05/21 10:48 AM
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It may be, but we need positive visions of the future, or this will necessarily be worse than the present.
/r/MensRights08/05/21 10:24 AM
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Of course I know them. I do not deny the toxicity of certain feminism. But I don't deny that of the MRA either. And I am grateful for both feminism and the MRA.
/r/MensRights08/05/21 10:22 AM
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What you express is an opinion. I have numerous feminist female friends who share many of the complaints of the men rights movement. I have read feminist books in which I have not felt any attack on the male gender. The male issue is emerging and women (some feminists too) are also helping us. Es: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.00469/full
/r/MensRights08/05/21 09:45 AM
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I think the only way to be heard is through dialogue. Personally I have always managed to quietly talk about this topic with feminists, indeed many are perfectly in accord. I wonder if our different view is due to geography. In Italy (from where I write) with caution and respect but we can always talk about the rights of men to a feminist without ending up in Insult
/r/MensRights08/05/21 09:38 AM
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I must admit that I should have used "many" instead of "most". But don't insult my views please, I'm just making a contribution. I try to explain myself with 2 examples on how an emancipated masculinity (through discussion and education) can favor men: 1Suicides (mostly affecting men): Many suicides occur because the man feels responsible for the whole family and feels he has to solve problems without anyone's help (I saw this conflict in my father). To educate men to express their feelings free…
/r/MensRights08/05/21 09:31 AM
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I noticed that a lot depends on how the topic is presented: if you show real interest to female problems u will receive listen about male problems (with various exceptions, of course)
/r/MensRights07/05/21 03:43 PM
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I personally know many women who claim to be feminists and are perfectly in accord with most of the demands of the men's rights movement.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 02:56 PM
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I agree with you. The fact is that publishing and discussing these links increases the importance of minority positions with the result of criminalizing an entire movement (feminism), but above all it distracts us, men, from generating a constructive dialogue in the search for a new masculinity. Constructive contributions should, in my opinion, look at women's inconvenience with a collaborative spirit.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 02:42 PM
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I tried to remember that despite everything, re-education to masculinity (male behavior) is indeed an important topic. And I think we need to treasure all points of view, even the fear of women that can express itself in exaggerated forms like that cited.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 02:27 PM
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I think that re-education to masculinity is an essential step for the emancipation of man from traditional behaviors and aspirations. Of course this discourse must start from men, as happened simmetricaly for the emancipation of women. This process, in addition to having undeniable advantages for men, would certainly contribute to resolving the main discrimination still today reported by women. Sorry for my poor English, it is difficult for us Mediterranean people.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 02:12 PM
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