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How do you feel about these people you desire? Have you ever felt any desire that goes beyond short-term physical, or beyond your genetic legacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:54 PM
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They only want to be touched sexually though. It is clear. After long enough and the "new relationship energy" stops they'll stop holding hands and shit, they might not talk as much, and their fiance will be like "really after all this you want to just have sex?" Or worse, they'll openly say they don't want to live with a woman or share dinner with her daily or retire with her, but he insists that "the sex is the best part" and it's just better to be FWB without all the "bad parts of a relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:49 PM
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Very interesting...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:44 PM
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Interesting... I wonder if this also has something to do with people later in life who struggle with non-sexual affection or other types of social connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:43 PM
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Loneliness is something all people deal with. But like, that's part of the reason why it usually isn't supposed to be lifelong. If it's a chronic problem not being addressed and everyone else is suffering for it, then yes, that kind of makes someone a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:42 PM
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Were you like this to your sisters, mother, or caregiver when you were small? Sometimes it could be a brain difference thing, but yes, touch hunger is a thing for most people's brains and a way to comfort each other with a pat on the back or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:38 PM
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Did you have a father who hugged you, wrestled with you, played football with you? That might be it. We all have different hang-ups or something, but yes most people like to feel close. Boys/men on sports teams always do this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:35 PM
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I have seen so many intelligent and at a minimum decent looking men squander away their youth with party girls and not wanting to work a meaningful job or go to college. I worked in the chain/fast food restaurant industry. So I met some low socioeconomic status people, particularly the men were single (at least frequently single) even if they were young fathers or occasionally sleeping around. They rarely socialized outside of drugs/alcohol and sex. It seemed like a lonely life to me! They defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:33 PM
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Yeah HR is actually designed to prevent nepotism. And yes lawsuits should be protected against. If there are questions, it's probably for a good reason and not as frivolous as you say. I've heard things men say, and no, my very male father wouldn't be OK with those things being said around his daughters or other women from his church or something. So why be worse to your coworkers? Don't. Maybe women ARE more professional if this is such a problem for men. Guarantee you we aren't gonna talk abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:19 PM
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It's not a joke. Do you even know what HR does? And that when you follow the rules you actually don't get in trouble?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:19 PM
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HR exists for really good reasons even for cis straight white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:05 PM
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Hahaha I find this so hard to believe. That's gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:23 PM
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Well then it sounds like we agree on most of that. I just don't agree that women of similar age all want to focus on kids immediately like that. I suppose it's a consideration, but fairly understandable and not the most impossible to work around. Lots of people are child free these days. Getting a vasectomy puts you ahead on the market lmfao. God this world is crazy. I digress...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:27 PM
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........ The F?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:46 PM
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you know why they look so depleted and unhealthy? because the literally choose heroin over food, they eat raw spaghetti or nothing at all so they can buy more heroine Yes I do know that. But it's unhealthy and not attractive. Also causes skin issues. Overall not Chadly. so the grapes are sour Right. Factually sour. Not that they can't be gotten especially for a short moment. But they are sour and not worth what's given, to me and apparently to many others. Your few cases don't seem to disprove t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:23 PM
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Because the grapes are sour? But regardless, her0in junkies are very physically depleted and unhealthy. If that's your version of Chad in any reality, I say you've probably got some rethinking to do. I think mechanics can be good men and good looking (maybe even eventually financially successful) and there's nothing wrong with that, but if she was generous and he was disloyal or a user, he's the one in the wrong and takes value/joy/time/money away from the people in his life at least at that poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:05 PM
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I.... Don't even know where to begin. And those women are the fox in your scenario? Those grapes sound pretty sour! It sounds like we actually agree these women are approached by lesser men, only you happen to choose the example or two where some of the lower men weren't rejected immediately. In high school, I made a friend and considered a boy who I never should have spoken to. It does happen. People learn. Some quicker than others. I live in reality, if you're going to be hostile and discount …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:53 PM
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What feminine cultural norms are harmful to men in the workplace? Also. What sexual harassment policies allegedly go overboard? I feel like my father would support all of these policies for his female children without hesitation. When he started hiring women, he was happy to treat them as what they are and keep them comfortable because he's like a good person. I feel like this is a good thing for men even if they don't have female family members they care about if only because it gives them prac…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:49 PM
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Stats don’t lie, why so many more guys are single than women. I am not sure people know what the word single means anymore... Is there a lot of LGBT population or are people poly now? That's the only way this makes sense. We have a roughly equal gender population.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:45 PM
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I have never met a woman working at McDonald's in her mom's cellar who isn't turning down someone worse (disloyal, substance abuse problem, baby mamas, doesn't wash dishes, something like that). That's the thing about men. While they don't seem particularly flattered and actually feel more pressured when a woman puts them on the spot directly, the worst of them absolutely do not fear intimately approaching a woman they might have fun with. If he ain't asking out one woman directly, he's nonstop …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:42 PM
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That's interesting and maybe even valid, but then what? Wait until you're up to 40 for kids? With whomst, some 20 something you lady who... Never had a fun maximizing adult relationship before you? At that point - sure have a fun relationship and keep it together based on all on the accountability of your own reasons and personality and commitments or float around. Nur don't even consider children - the time for that has passed. And very few men should be in this position - even at 25 you can ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:00 PM

eliminates the possibility of childhood stability for most people including me. Are you saying your parents are still not together and weren't throughout at least part of your childhood? And that you blame your mother's freedom?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:50 AM

University
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:09 PM
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I don't think I have confidence or an ego. I have a life. Goals to reach and things to get done. Sometimes I succeed, and sometimes I don't. Comparing to other people doesn't change that. I choose to find the good where I can for myself in my life. I am literally the main character in my life. Of course, any people in my life are also their one main character, including men. I find that most adult men have also mastered this skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 09:01 AM
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Both are roughly equivalent. You're sharing the same type of experience. Doesn't matter which side of the experience you're on. Except maybe the money portion makes a difference to some people? Unless you are strictly technically IN the club not getting or giving dances or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:01 PM
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Learn to not leer at other women for your own gratification and get dances from them if you wouldn't want your wife to do the same. At least, whilst in that relationship. She should be able to do the same shit and why would you be mad? You did it to someone else's wife or gf and that was all cool right? All while you were with yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:54 PM
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Hahahaha! Yes! Ffs or learn to just not. It shouldn't be that difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:51 PM
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It's only controversial if you go to the nude beach and strip clubs yourself, but you'd never take your wife. Probably also the type of dude who makes people at nude beaches uncomfortable - it's not generally supposed to be about leering and sexualizing everyone. There are plenty of families and/or older people just relaxing at nude or topless beaches. Don't be creepy if you go there. Anyway, back to the point - do not have a double standard. If you go out and you see the hint of cleavage from a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:48 PM
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You are probably of very similar attractiveness as a lot of women you know in a totally average way, as people tend to be average. Of course you're gonna get with one of them lol. Men all the time say "of course you're average looking and you expect your husband to tell you you're so special and gorgeous" when complaining about women in another sense. But as soon as they're complaining about a newer couple, it's no longer "we are all mostly average people with some flaws," it becomes a whole dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 07:10 PM
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It's as a lot of other comments said. "Leagues" comes across as objective, and the vast majority of women are somewhat "average" based on objective measure just like men are also somewhat "average." Anyone who works so outside that scheme an outlier. The general rule happens to be going for other perfectly normal people who happen to have other things in common with you. That's how it works for most of us, and how we imagine it works for many others. An average woman that your friend is dating r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 07:08 PM
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I'm seriously considering getting lifts just for that sake. I am a bit of an oddball. I know the statistics that taller men will get consideration for more positions. But I'm a short woman. I literally don't have the same lived experience, yet I know that height matters and I even understand an appreciation for a tall man seeming statuesque. I only brought up insecurity because that's the only reason I'd ever care. One of the most attractive men I know is like 5'7'' maybe? Wear lifts, don't. Go …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:16 AM
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No I mean I get that some women are wearing makeup at work and on occasions, but enough for it to be a dating issue? No, in my line of work which I don't want doxxed, I don't see it in the majority of time. At the mall or whatever, many women also do not wear it. Also I live in a warm climate where the vibe is just... Casual and beachy? I knew women spent a lot. Even if I wore some for the holidays once a year I'd spend a fortune compared to what I like to spend, so the dollar value also doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:12 AM
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As long as they don't like men sexually then they are straight like it or not. So that statement was just untrue that's why i called it out. Ace people exist. Men that get online and say all women they see are fat and nasty do exist. I literally just say I believe they are telling the truth... Even if they don't seem comfortable with admitting what that actually means about how they "identify." Unless of course its a unhappy relationship or marriage, they aren't saying that their partner isn't o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:49 AM
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SOME women can be terrible people. Men can even be attracted to terrible people romantically as well as sexually. But if they say all women are boring or do not interest them, which has been said, we can take that as face value as their feelings romantically. Women aren't a monolith to critique. Some women will interest a man who swings that way. That's literally how it happens. If you are aromatic or ace, that is fine. This is the only valid reason I have seen to bring up the things OP is conce…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:29 AM
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No. I assure you I am a nerd. And the other women around me who also often don't wear makeup in the hot weather are much more beautiful. But we all do this normally... It's not so odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:55 PM
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Ok guess you don't want to talk. Everyone else sees I didn't call anyone gay, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:22 PM
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"if you don't find at least a few women hot and cool, you probably are just not into that" Is the polar opposite of "if you haven't tried it, give it a chance anyway, surely you like it."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:01 PM
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But men who just talk online about how terrible women are are clearly not straight. They may be ace. Society may tell them it's been more normal to be straight. But if you're salty enough to where you've never believed in a good or hot woman... You ain't into women, at least. And men need to know that. If they're acting like they don't, someone may tell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:38 PM
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You should've been socializing in school and college to start. How old are you and what are you doing? Maybe a church? Some couples meet at work but there's details to that for sure lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:42 PM
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your response is to imply a man critical of women must be gay. I didn't say gay. I said men who say AWALT and go extreme with their criticisms of women are literally stating they don't have that positive interest in women. They could be ace. Your ciriticism is not quite that extreme, for example. But I've seen criticisms on this internet that are! Way more than I've seen unhinged women unable to take a rejection. And when women do that, they are wrong. Does not erase the actual progressive work …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 02:31 PM
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AWALT is a thing. Coined by men, actually. I'm pointing it out because when men talk about AWALT that's usually when I see met get called out for not wanting women as much as they say they do. Cases where women react badly to getting rejected are fringe cases, and not what I usually see online. If it makes OP feel.any better, I know not all women are angels. Not all women are progressive. But women sure are the ones in a majority who will advocate for better healthcare for me, for example, and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 02:21 PM
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OP never said they were the ones that don't like any women. They sort of try to lump women together based on what the think about "out gender as a whole" and "how we can't handle rejection," but he still might like women overall and be having a bad day or something. If he doesn't, he might be aromatic. Not gay. I think a lot of men might be aromantic or homoromantic and still lust after some women. OP is not one of the ones who gets online and says all women are dumpy and fat and gross, though I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 02:16 PM
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Look, I don't lose sleep over men on the internet who have preconceived notions about women. It really does nothing to my pride. I can't emphasize enough how as an adult not under 25, I have much bigger problems and standards. But also... Facts are facts. If you think all women are dumpy and ugly, if you don't like talking to women, you may just not romantically and/or sexually like women. That's how romantic and sexual attraction works. This is not a joking matter. If you aren't into women, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:51 PM

A part of society is talking about it. We are close to 50/50 on those who care and don't. More don't care about it than I would expect. The South Carolina law in consideration may even ban some daily oral contraceptive pills. Sure I could be more specific, but there are more examples than just that. This is also an important reason for maternal.mortalort increases. Ob/gyns are great and they've done a lot of good. I had a male one who physically hurt me, and I had to withdraw consent for the pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:24 PM

Nerd women exist... I find it interesting that YOU care. Why is it so important to say that all women wear makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:15 PM
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Oh? Then why do you make a point about your friend not settling down? And disloyalty? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:59 PM

And yet the death rate is increasing from what it is previously. The reasons are legal and obvious. That's the point I'm making.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:57 PM

Healthcare laws and deaths. Articles from big publications and Jessica Valenti with her newsletter talk about it. The clear reasons are out there being discussed. I mentioned 2 states. If it doesn't apply to your culture or your group, I think that's great, really. I'm just going on things I've seen near me (without fixing myself). All of the US has had an average rate of deaths increase when it already started off greater than the developed world, so that stood out to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:51 PM

There have been increasing articles about women dying from preventable deaths in recent years, and you think it should increase for people to care. I guess? Proving my point for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:47 PM

But it does seem odd to frame this as men broadly choosing to disregard women’s health. Especially given the two party system since you mentioned voting - no one will like everything either candidate is doing. Do you think evangelicals like how trump gas like 6 kids across 3 women, including the current first lady who has nudes published? I think a certain group of people is uneducated about it, but in the year of our Lord 2025, I can't give them a pass anymore. Conservative sisters and mothers …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:46 PM

I don't even wash my face nightly, pal lmao. Take seats.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:41 PM

Data isn't being collected anymore in Texas, last I heard, actually. Women are talking about it. Some reasons are abundantly clear, and yet nothing is being done about it. In fact, there's a South Carolina bill in consideration which would make everything so much worse. That's why I say many people aren't caring these days, at least much less. So is the rate of suicides among men. Can I use this to show that society doesn't give a damn about men's health, The argument had been made this way, yes…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:38 PM
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I usually see my husband without shoes at all. He is secure. That's what matters. I also don't care if women wear heels, makeup or whatever. Good for them if they want to dress up sometimes or even a lot with their lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:34 PM
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I have work like gloss before, but no, not regularly. How is that so hard to believe? You don't see women outside like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:30 PM
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Most dress shoes for a dude has a heel of one to two inches, do you look down at a dude for that? Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:29 PM

I'm talking about very recent changes and how maternal deaths have gone up. Another person made points about history and the positive changes throughout. That's great, but in the last years deaths have increased especially in my country, and you're mad about insurance? Do you cover your wife or daughters? No? Then your insurance will never have to actually cover these procedures and it's all contract fluff. The amount of comments on here alone that women's deaths don't matter as much as I say...…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:27 PM
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Imagine if 1 in 3 men wore lifts. Especially if concentrated in certain working environments, I can see how this might cause a difference in the way overall height is seen/expected. As a woman, I have a problem with a daily routine being that time-consuming. Lifts don't take a long time to deal with. As long as the man in my life didn't start to internalize this and have it cause problems in his life or our life, no I would not care. I would not accuse him of being fake or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 08:04 AM

A lot of society does not give a shit about women's healthcare, and maternal mortality. A lot of these people are men. I vote a certain way with this in mind. I have considered career choices and activism with this in mind. I will do some of that later on in life when I am done with my current career goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:59 AM
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Women buy makeup for occasions and it is expensive in revenue. In real life, do you see most women wearing makeup this often? It's like a dude who wears inserts with his dress shoes occasionally. Probably not going to be such a deep issue that women are ever going to consciously have an opinion on that for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:54 AM
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Do women even wear makeup this often anymore? I don't wear makeup, and I don't have a problem with shoe inserts. But I didn't used to go actively looking for men who wear them, either. Didn't simp for them online. Never dated a man who did wear them, though I dated some great men who did well for themselves. If someone is in high society, they might feel a different set of expectations and that's OK. As long as it's not an actual insecurity that impacts their ability to do activities or trust th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:44 AM
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The service industry arrogance is a wild accusation to me. I've never met a half-decent woman who could forgive a man being mean to a service worker. Hell. My sister thought her questionable guy was sleeping with the bartender! Are you speaking about very wealthy circles, perhaps? Yes people accept more of a looking down on others mentality in high society, but that probably also includes partners who would be faithful. I do think some women underestimate red flags of a different sort, thinking …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:43 AM
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It's insulting when anyone who knows a woman well enough to be aware that she is looking for a serious relationship thinks they know better so therefore they can and should convince her to take the risks she doesn't want to take and the arrangement she doesn't want for the other person's benefit. I'm not talking about men who catch a woman in the club twerking - I'm talking about a situation like mine used to be where I very clearly did not want that, and a man or boy had every reason to notice …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:52 AM
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Of course a good number of people do. A good number of people also don't, and those people like me aren't lying. The average number of partners is pretty low in my country/culture, so statistics would show not too often! It's great that some people have a choice to differ, but that good group of people who differ doesn't mean women like me are lying when they talk about our thought processes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:46 AM
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For adult men - mostly yes. As an impressionable teenager - I guarantee some of the guys who called me slurs when I was a virgin and they didn't know it still would have gone out and tried to get laid easily. They were assholes. Hopefully they grew out of it, but still it started me being very careful who I wanted to be with. Men who talk about other people in those ways are not cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:05 PM
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Silly perspective. I've seen women with ugly men to me. But even if I didn't, I'd say I get it! And I would never trust them more than a handsome man. What are the obvious signs you think women miss in handsome men? I'm going to think if any woman I know has ever overlooked it. Or what if I'm overlooking it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:23 PM
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Well that's what I'm saying. Even with my ego being separated from the situation, I look at these men with other women, and I'm like "yeah no he ain't cute." I assume maybe she has a different type and they communicate very well and have shared goals. When they do, hey, good for them! And if the dude it bad it's like, no matter what he looks like, get rid of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:42 PM
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I assure you hobosexual men are usually quite scrawny, unkempt, and the majority of women don't want them. Attractiveness is a spectrum. Sure there are some very old, gross bald men at the absolute bottom of the barrel who choose a very specific arrangement with their money and a woman. Sure there are some good looking men who get away with things - again from a specific arrangement with a specific type of woman. Most people are in the middle and they find other people in the middle. People well…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:51 PM
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I've definitely seen a woman played by a man I wouldn't touch with a 50 ft pole. People working fast food have all sorts of drama playing each other in the kitchen. You literally don't need to be rich or whatever you think. And some of us avoid men with a history of playing with women. Those men aren't lonely enough, there should be more avoiding of any man who would do that. We can at least try, but we won't see them all. How are we supposed to know you're not the tall good looking asshole rath…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:44 AM
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A woman can want nice AND smart, or nice AND healthy, or nice AND sociable and principled.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:39 AM
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Wait what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:22 AM

You are looking for articles about solving an unnatural problem, then. Not articles about female pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:29 AM
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Also, what responsibility do women have? To have sex or not to have sex? Both can literally end up in death. Men have no such threat either way. It is not comparable. Society needs men to take more responsibility for who they sleep with and for the next generation. The lower birth rate is a sign of women doing the responsible thing that's good for society. When girl's and women's lives are not valued as a primary responsibility, when men are not interested in raising children, whatever stops mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:27 AM
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Men are the sex that says this. Biologically, women are the ones who can die from wanted and planned pregnancies when a legal system holds that type of thing up. We all decided that's bad for society. Men haven't been listening for some reason when we tell them their promiscuity is also bad for society. Look around this sub. Women are much more likely to say we can and do choose celibacy over casual. More men as if they "are not the selectors," whatever that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:19 AM

there is barely (definitely a way more accurate word than none. I apologize) any evidence women actually physically enjoy it, even if there’s clitoral stimulation. ......................................... Almost non-porn research or articles about pleasure would show evidence. A relationship or relationships would very likely show evidence. It's not polite dinner conversation for strangers, but it's the truth and it's out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:14 AM
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Oh boy guy. You need to listen. All people aren't doing casual stuff. I, a woman, am not. I don't know why it's more difficult for you than anyone else because I would never want to do such a thing, and I don't get why you'd want to. That's as honest as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:09 AM
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I am not the person you were talking to before, but: You've also lost those other connections. As a 'serious' style woman, a man trying to just casually sleep with me when he has dated serious women in the past is an insult and I would not appreciate that mindset. I could see a lot that would inhibit your ability to keep a real relationship. As for casual sex, I cannot give any 'full picture' except the reasons I see why it wouldn't work for me and I know that about myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:07 AM
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Legit, I haven't been to NYC yet, but LA had the absolute most whack people taking public transportation. Way worse than the other major cities I have been in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 07:38 PM
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Thank you for this lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 07:25 PM
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I think there's a difference between just not noticing someone and noticing someone and then thinking "yikes - I don't want to introduce them to my friends any longer." But, of course, people can decide to be one or either of those things. Maybe sometimes they don't decide, they just are like that for some part of the population. It IS allowed, but it's different. Let's not pretend men won't sleep with 'sluts.' Men are the biggest sluts in my experience. Female slits very much aren't invisible t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 07:01 PM
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Yeah. You can talk to new people. But there are a lot of circumstances where a coffee meet one-on-one isn't the best place to do so. Talk to them BEFORE you date them. Don't call it dating while you're just meeting them. Don't ask them to go out of their way to meet you far away for a short time, don't minimize your meeting to a quick chance to look at her in person, and if she's hot and cool don't switch up last minute to say "actually you were hot so we can upgrade this coffee date to a new pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 06:48 PM
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...... You were using an example of a thing not happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 05:32 PM
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The friend of HIS saw me with HIM. We weren't set up. We knew each other. She told him to get with me, like it wasn't even his idea. Now he's married to me. The purpose should be two people who want to be together and who like each other. I hope he does, but normally if you already know the girlwoman, t's your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:36 PM
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You could probably Google search images of women doing weird shit. But that doesn't actually mean you're gonna see women IRL doing that. And it most certainly doesn't have anything to do with a strange man in a bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 03:10 PM
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No need. I live life off the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 03:09 PM
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LMAO no one believes this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 03:08 PM
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My husband asked out a friend of his from shortly before me. I wasn't surprised hearing this. She was pretty, he was single. What surprised me was hearing that SHE told HIM to ask ME out. Yes, I do want to be at least as special as other people in his life - man or woman. Yes, if he had the idea and the courage on his own to try to be with someone else, I would hope the same is true of him with me. Fuck, yes this is sort of hard for me still. Anyway, I have happy times with my husband. It's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:37 PM
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A lot of men do the swiping thing, and the non-desperate non-losers (or in my definition men usually men with little self-control, introspection, and life experience) who don't will look at the profile and message a matching woman first in a way that makes it obvious they are looking for real connection, if they were swiping for something more real.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:28 PM
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I will admit to having given dumb compliments before, and smiling. But I'm not gonna touch a man just because he's cool and looks good. Every woman has her preferences and quirks I guess. and "carelessly" letting their breasts brush all over a man.* Loll umm wait what?!?! At least some women don't do anything like that until you've been dating a while. Also maybe OP is a nice church guy who wouldn't be looking for that either, so those women who would stay away from him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:23 PM
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It's a gray area or a spectrum of some kind. Take dating apps, for example. Woman matches with man. Gives him a chance and clearly shows she is open, but she also knows he probably swiped right on everything that showed up for him because that's what men do. So it's true that she pursued a man and it's also not true at the same time. Not everything is black and white. Even the same women will change their views on certain men and on dating over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:20 PM
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What do you mean by feral? I am considered quite prim and proper, but I also don't see other women being shameless. My circle is filled with good women I love very much, by the way. Anyway, I do think most women will look at a man, linger near him, and I've seen "eyes made" between people. It doesn't always happen when a woman is into a man because maybe some men won't notice and do it back or the two people will be so engrossed in a good conversation that the other subject doesn't come up. If s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:11 PM
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But why would you even waste your time at all dating someone you don't know? Get to know them first. FaceTime, a group party, something friendly not with romantic pressure. Men say coffee dates are low pressure - but isn't it A LOT of pressure driving somewhere to meet someone you don't know to spend half that time trying to impress them? This is coming from my suburban mindset, though. If I was in NYC, I would not mind making a couple of new connections at the coffee stand on the corner. There …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 01:46 PM
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Do you have any idea how quickly fresh spinach and berries go bad? Chicken needs to be frozen or cooked in like 2 days. Takes time to thaw, too. There's emergency extra food, but I don't think people like to eat canned and frozen things every time they meet a new person and they don't mesh well. I know some men don't plan their meals like I do, but surely they know how many meals they are planning to eat out in a week or not? Surely they are competent enough to plan their activities a day in adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 10:45 AM
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If the coffee date is great, they can totally be the one proposing to continue with a dinner. ONE day in advance. If the both of them can't plan their couple of hours it less together ONE day in advance, well, I don't know about all other women but for me I really like to have plans. Normally, I would go for a slice of pizza. I would not have wanted to be the one to suggest it, though, to a man who is asking a zillion other women out for generic caffeine and hasn't thought about the date with me…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 10:07 AM
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I'm saying she's asking to mess up her food plans if she makes plans with a man who "might or might not" want to eat after a coffee. And that would make me have second thoughts personally if I was ever asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 10:32 PM
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Frozen yogurt is better than coffee because maybe I like yogurt on a personal level haha. Don't really like coffee. Low price is fine. Yogurt would spoil everyone's meal. Do you not want to eat with her? Guess that might be fine for squeezing meeting someone new into your schedule when you're young and don't know people very well. Especially if you are convenient and close by. Personally, I like a slice of pizza better than anything. Real food/nutrition and I won't be hungry later. You could may…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:42 PM
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The difference is one spreads public disease. The difference is, for McDonald's, consumers are able to eat. For sex work, no one benefits except for through sadism. The difference is how two people just working at McDonald's equally could never require one to pay the other. A woman having her fair share fun would not think to take money for sex whereas no McDonald's worker would ever think about showing up for no money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:51 PM
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It's not so much that she's ALWAYS being coerced. It's about the majority of women who are - because one woman who wants a Gucci bag instead of bread for her child is not enough volume of sex for the absolute multitude of men who would be OK with it. Because how does the man know which woman is which? How does the law know which woman is which? We don't know, so it shouldn't be legal to buy. When someone tries to buy your little sister or niece or daughter, we must be able to do something about …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:43 PM
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Coffee is not a mutual interest - for me - to bond over and enjoy romantically. Maybe the board games could be fun. And the nearby element means it could be a casual meeting as 'friends' to find more common ground for more sure romance and closeness. That's essentially my issue with it, too. It's not about the price. I'd probably go 20 minutes for a similarly priced slice of pizza, if I was decently sure the guy really liked me and I liked him enough to talk. No issue with that. Plus I would kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:22 PM
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I mean, I don't like coffee, but when I was younger I was happy to meet a friendly person at my college campus at this cute cute cafe with tea, board games, and even wine. Food next door. I do not, however, think a woman with a full time job should be driving 20 minutes for pricey Starbucks coffee and WiFi though, for a guy who is trying to gauge if she is doable in person. People say you could always go somewhere different later if you actually like them and do find them doable, but what if he …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 05:38 PM

If we all feel about the same as each other, what good does it do to say "actually I don't want to fuck you all that much" to the person you are... Trying to fuck? It's not like you have to correct them that women like balding men. It was not sensible what you said about that, by the way. They know. I do agree, the difference is that more women don't say the negative shit for no reason. Of course we focus on the positive. And those men who don't also try to be positive with their partners will a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 05:01 PM
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Large difference between "yeah I had 5 boyfriends before I met you" or even "I hooked up a few times in my early 20's" and "I want you to be a cuckold." Although, with my very limited experience, I understand why men come to the conclusion both things are somewhat related. My partner has a bigger past than me, and sometimes I think i could see him wanting things that I don't. I trust him though, like it's my job. I did make that vow, we are married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:34 AM

no it doesn’t matter if it was a partner or not actually. Yikes. it does. Who exactly do you think values these women, if not even partners? Who in society values? I would look up your claims and see if it's mainly gang violence you're talking about why men would ever get killed like that when clearly they are valued in all the other ways I stated and it's not the people who know them killing them, but I am a little busy rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:17 AM
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lying about where you work, faking confidence, baggage etc). Lying about the way he treated women in his own past would have made me more livid. Faking confidence is just smart. That doesn't make me mad lol. These are such funny examples. And where he works? I mean, yes that might make me mad because I'm not trying to hook up I'm trying to have a relationship and now we are starting on lies instead of getting to know you and your colleagues and our plan for our future. Women are more relatable t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:15 AM
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So the same as a woman's biggest betrayal, then? Lying about monogamy and taking risks big enough for both of you to get sick and turning the initial testing you can do into anything but a guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:01 AM
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It's not the extreme version of 100%, and usually it correlates with how well someone knows a person, but people's views definitely tend to come out in their personal choices - especially extreme and biased views will come out. Often, things can happen quickly, epecially with men on here who say "I want a woman to have a specific kind of raw desire for me," that shows up in your life. You try to get into her pants on the first date and/or take stupid risks. You probably don't bother to get STD t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:57 AM

Healthcare? Education? What are you on about women being more valued than men? Are you saying this because women often get compensated for labor in the family and fight less often in wars? They're still murdered. Pregnant women are murdered by their own partners as a main cause of death. You're objectively not right, it's the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:48 AM
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The most obvious and specific answer you're looking for is banned to discuss here, but no, not all dangerous or misogynistic men or all red flags are bad looking. I have 100% turned down men who look good for their views. I guarantee you've seen it happen before. I will say, the men who come out and hit on me with the expectation I will say yes are not usually "hateful" of women. I consider their views flawed and dangerous for me in other ways. Misogyny shows up in doing acts that are destructiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:32 AM
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SOME abuse potential. And it's not "intuiting," it is observing. Actions over time definitely become a reflection of a hateful person, and women can see this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:22 AM

I meant it should be visually obvious when we get a hair update usually. And we definitely look good at least partly for our partner if we have one. We enjoy compliments from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:20 AM
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How are you supposed to know and automatically care that she went to the salon? That's her domain. ........ BRO. It's obvious. It's MEANT to be visual. Say it fuckin looks good. If it doesn't, she's going to be thinking "The Hell did I pay for? Do I need to find a new stylist or a new style?" Or she wonders if it does look good, and you don't say "you look great," why you don't see and make her feel good about her efforts and taste and pleasant appearance. Except if she keeps the same style for …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:44 AM
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Like, risky for spreading diseases not socially acceptable, or like having a hard day and being in a bad mood unacceptable? Because dudes having a beer and taking a load off after a hard day at work is about the most socially acceptable thing I can think of. It's only if you yell a lot and/or shut out your family entirely for days that it becomes an issue. I would argue it's dangerous, yeah, but men don't hide that shut from women - they can't. The yelling at them and shutting them out affects t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:34 AM
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Some men hide things very well. When those things are bad enough, and they fear consequences. This is me speaking from experience as an old hag, by the way. Others don't care to hide things, and the younger a woman or a relationship is, the less a man will have to work to hide details. Forced to hide emotions is an interesting take. I never understood. I don't have brothers or anything. The only things men even have to hide, as far as I can see, are the dangerous things. And I've always hoped th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:27 AM
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Holy shit. I read the thing. She literally says she noticed inconsistencies. Do you really think women are so stupid or blind? Actually don't answer that, it probably would violate the rules here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:11 AM
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A year is nothing. And he is still seen. Imagine not being able to keep someone around for longer than that to know you just because your beliefs are so hateful. And btw, I imagine she "snooped" for a reason. People don't do things for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:09 AM
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Over the long term? I mean, yes, your beliefs will impact your daily life. You'll get seen by the people who know you well enough even if you don't say specific things out loud. Actions speak louder than words. Even the act of trying to hook up fast is possible a sign in itself, although those random women you hit on may not see enough to know WHY you are behaving irrationally and dangerously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:05 AM
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Not all bad people have the same signs or ways of being bad. Some signs are obvious and some aren't. The non-obvious bad relationships also might be less painful for longer, leading to a better chance at more time invested.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:03 AM
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Hmm, that would only apply if women were truly in average more helpful and better options than men. Which would mean telling women to "choose better" when the average men are worse is basically advocating for a male loneliness epidemic. Is that what we are on now? I'm for that before I'm for women suffering with bad men, though I don't feel like there's a reason why men would be considered inferior on average. And most men agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 11:59 PM
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Being an incel would also mean being celibate and repulsive - and therefore basically immune from the worst of accusations or consequences of relationships with something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 11:55 PM

Oh. This is a great point. If a 30 year old gets with a bad man and has his baby and gets stuck in a worse financial situation, well she had a lot of time to prepare and she has experience and we're not as worried about her getting out of it. If a 19 year old gets baby trapped with a man or drops out of school... We are all more worried about the situation just based on her age and life knowledge alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:12 PM

Why am I getting downvoted?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:59 PM

Things like holes in family walls, juvenile records from 4 years ago, long but not too long periods of no contact. A 19 year old will think "idk what's going on with their family right now, and I'm not a part of it yet, I don't need to be up his arse every 5 seconds." When in reality, the guy who seems very kind to you for 6 months or more really might not have grown as much as you think and may be responsible for more than you think during his little space. That's why it's called a red flag - i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:33 PM

Younger women don't "have infinitely better options than older women." They are grown adults. They know where they stand. They, at least most of them, want someone young and fun or someone to build with from very little. They do not want the older, rich guy you think is "better." He's not an option. He's got things like kids, baggage, all-day meetings, and a home that she can't ever make her own. Life has phases. Older women are looking for different things, which I guess seems "better" if that …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:18 PM
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I suppose that is what people say. My husband is much more resistant to routine changes than I am, just in my experience. We talk like reasonable people and come to agreements on big new changes, though. Life changes happen in waves throughout a marriage, like you said maybe with having a baby. We have ended up agreeing because we know how to communicate when it is necessary. I would say sooner is usually better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 02:55 AM
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As you get ready to permanently choose a life partner, you should know things like: the love languages are a complete full picture the lifestyle you realistically plan to have and how to achieve it in a way that is roughly equitable and stable for the whole partnership/family reproductive science/anatomy managing practical adult/household tasks basic social and communication skills any triggers or quirks of your own and how to manage You can talk over time about the specifics. It evolves to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:28 AM

Uh. My husband is hot to me. There are definitely other good looking men. Very good looking, in fact. You just gotta be attracted to and compatible with the singular one you're actually with. Helps knowing where a pregnancy came from and helps prevent the spread of disease, too. 10/10 recommend doing it this way. Instead of dating an interchangeable set of people, date individuals in the hopes of finding YOUR individual for life. Personally, I am attracted to masculine traits. My husband is cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:25 PM
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I enjoy talking with several friends on a regular basis, and my husband. I have a desire for that the same way I have a desire for sexuality. It is not a need - if there's no consent or it's not working somehow, I can find a way to survive on my own. When I get to have fun and feel taken care of by those close to me, I do appreciate it. I still would be single and celibate if all of the good-looking men were headaches to me. I might even say I would be sacrificing the benefits I get due to my hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:34 AM
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What the Hell did you think it meant? And you called in Machiavellian. Literally. Attraction is one thing. There have been a few interesting guys in my life. There are things that make my middle school love "special," too. I was interested in him at one point. We like personalities the same shallow way we like other people's looks. Some of my platonic friends have really great personalities I like. it didn't work out with the romantic interests of the past, and now my husband and I do a lot more…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:23 AM
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"I enjoy sexual access given to me by attractive people who are capable of giving it. This is real, and doesn't benefit me at all, as opposed to those Machiavellian people who appreciate the access, generosity, and other mutual sharing given by people gifted in ways of intelligence and those who share hobbies or interests or goals that are rarer than sex." - Literally you. And it makes no sense unless you assume that people don't give back emotional, mental, or partnership enthusiasm and results…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:02 AM
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That's not ALL you said. You also essentially literally said it wasn't good for someone to admire your good qualities, if they were planning on being a part of your life that benefitted and appreciate those things. As if there's something wrong with that. Which is pretty sad if you think about it, and not even something you seem to have a deeper point about more than lamentations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:29 AM
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No, you don't see anything. Apparently you didn't even see when I admitted that plenty of things about my husband have benefitted me. Please take your comments elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:00 AM
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This is an actual text I sent him the other day: "And for the record that one leader is an asshole and you're clearly leadership material yourself and you're shiny and I am proud of you. Also you are fun, interesting, and loved." You probably don't get more than half the context to that message, and you certainly don't get how we benefitted each other in the last 7+ years of marriage in a way where we both contributed. It's not even like I could ask you to imagine it. We met with very little. We…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:20 AM
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Sure it's valid in either way. But personally? As a woman who has not had casual sex? I literally think a promiscuous man would be happier in an open relationship with the most promiscuous woman rather than dealing with how I would handle him when he looked in another woman's direction. Anybody can be valid alone or with someone similarly compatible, but too big a difference will cause problems eventually if someone tries it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:30 AM
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Not sure how this is relevant. Well, if someone is seeking out new people they aren't attracted to and don't like for quick sex just because it makes them feel better than living their life, that's what would make me concerned about their happiness in a long term relationship much more than "oh no, they experienced someone good looking before." A lot of guys have casual sex just to try it and lower their standards in order to do it. Do you hear how this sounds? If I said I was doing this as a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:55 AM
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I never used dating apps. You're right, I find that a casual scenario isn't worth it. I didn't even have to try it. Met people in person. The problem is that a lot of men had to lower their standards in order to achieve that body count Ain't no way I'm believing he wasn't attracted to them. He wanted to do that for some reason. I mean, maybe the validation seeking really was very desperate, but that's a whole other issue and not one lesser than the fact that someone maybe has been with an attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:41 AM

You can listen to the words coming out of her mouth, ask her questions, go on dates. Cuddle a lot, kiss her and touch her bum. Continue to build a connection with the ways you used to. Go on occasional trips if you can. Treat her like a lady you like, care about, and find attractive. You can clean up after yourself, do your own laundry and dishes. Thats what a brand new person does. A married person won't exactly be brand new, though. You'll need to share all the communication about mundane task…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:36 AM
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I think it WOULD be "easy" for a woman to do that if that were somehow a sole objective, but no I don't think that problem is as common as what online men might fear. Don't men have more partners on average than women do? That's what I find. I mean, in the very same sentence you say women look for this less. It's not as if most men never find it. Actually, you have inspired me to ask a question. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:43 AM
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Model type women who might be 5'11'' or more, super desirable, and making good money can and will find people with those traits if that's what they're into. It actually makes sense in a way because shorter men sometimes get insecure, and men with too much less or more money may not match lifestyles. Doesn't even come across as shallow. Well, I suppose talking about manhood size is very crass, but our President has had some very crass things to say about women, so everyone can find a match I gues…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:21 AM
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:-) thanks, I try to be helpful and realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:04 AM
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Too many men don't live up to the bar of being able to budget and maintain a safe, clean living environment on their own without a mom or a partner. Also, meet the bar of respecting and caring for the women you sleep with. Think about the basic well-being of those who would be tied to you as family. Forget about luxury, height, and looks. Start from the ground up, and in particular ask yourself if demanding a certain amount of kids and a stay-at-home partner or maybe even a working maid and a ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:55 PM
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But to answer your question: it's not "making things better for women." It's just "they and the innocent children who are half men get better healthcare protections for themselves/their mother." Women aren't asking for handouts. They're asking for rights. I just pointed out: things weren't getting better for women. We were all having less kids partly because things were messed up for all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:01 AM
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If men can make things worse, why do you think a supermajority of men especially working with women couldn't make significant more positive changes? How do you figure that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:31 AM

If they just post natural pictures and download a dating app they will get tons of guys to shower them with attention. On an app? Where they will also receive gross pictures and invites to coffee dates from someone who never knew them? That's a waste of time. If no one in person ever showed affection and appreciation, that makes someone feel kinda bad for women just as much as men. We are not complex nuanced beings when it comes to sex. It takes very little to interest us sexually. So if a guy d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:53 PM

The consequences. Men have diseases. Some women get pregnant when they don't intend to or with the wrong man altogether. The fact that many casual male partners are total assholes who will act like you're the shameful one for being with them unironically. If they were competent, kind, intelligent, committed, and attractive enough, I'd date them for real. I assume if they could see the same were true about me, they'd want to have a relationship for real. There would be very little keeping grown, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:36 PM

None of that stuff you are talking about emotionally matters to guys in order to receive sexual pleasure. Yes, I realize this, but doesn't it matter enough in general life satisfaction? Because I feel like it should. Especially if you only desire sex about the same amount that you desire a kiss. Both are similar in that they are expressions of mutual affection and care, but there are some physical differences, obviously. We kissed when we were getting to know each other as people. We did more wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:15 PM

Thank you for letting other women know lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:56 PM

Women just don't desire it in the first place which creates a lot of leverage for them. This isn't true. Sex is nice to do with someone you love just like kissing, for men and for women. It's no more pleasurable than relieving your own needs if you don't care about your partner. normally it is the guy desiring sex in the context of a marriage far more than the woman. I've been married for over 7 years and you're flat out wrong. All the other factors of respect, regret, shame etc don't matter to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:52 PM
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I was about to say that you're trying to dismantle a whole working system because exceptions aren't being made for you and you have to do your part. But that's really not even true, is it? The birth rate and rates of sex have been going down already for a while before Roe was overturned. The system wasn't working. Enough of you got selfish and mad that you became too close to a majority. You just did not understand why the system was failing - income inequality and lack of support for parents. L…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:43 PM
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It's not even lack of perfect circumstance. It's flat out cruel and making the worst of situations that are already very bad, like unavoidable pregnancy complications.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:32 PM
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The pros have been outweighing the cons for a long time in my opinion. Not sure why y'all are meeting all the wrong type of people, but my friends and I really don't like deadbeats and haven't made exceptions for the good looking ones. My one and only could do deadbeat things right now and he'd all of a sudden be pushed out the door (if I could prove it).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:30 PM
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"* Women aren’t men. They’re not wired to pursue sex at any cost. If sex becomes dangerous or costly, many will just opt out. Full stop. " I know this wasn't your main point, but it just kinda struck me here. Let's not let men off the hook too easily. "Not all men" (lol) are hoes who will sleep with the most dangerous woman out there. Not all men lose their minds over sex, and men in general really ought to be held to that standard. They have responsibilities for risk management as consenting ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 12:28 PM
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I mean, it IS like kissing? The threshold for liking someone, being attracted to them, and bothering to find out what they like enough to even get there applies? Right? But I'm not even talking about that. Men are easier to please physically - they can relatively easily do more of the work with less intensive prep for male-female sex. But do you WANT to sleep with someone who you don't respect and who doesn't respect themselves or you? Do you WANT to wake up in a few months and get an "I'm pregn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:31 AM
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Sure it helps, if you know the long answer as to what it means in your particular situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:23 PM
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But that advice is also given to men who are already in relationships, as if all problems are instantly boiled down to the woman's whims and the problem couldn't possibly be something deeper the man needs to work on. I mean, yes absolutely take care of yourself and learn to be personable when meeting new people. Absolutely expect that to have some impact on your dating life as a younger, less experienced man. It absolutely can apply. Even the "don't be unattractive" can technically apply in long…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:36 AM
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I simply have witnessed other people’s mental, physical and financial decline as a result of participating in casual sex especially when it comes to women. Why mainly women? Do you not know many men? Or is there some sort of bias where you don't possibly relate men's failures to their often impulsive sexual decisions on at least an equal level to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:48 PM
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Men and women are not the same when it comes to sex, desires and consequences. Not one-on-one the same, but both genders suffer and need to be responsible for their sexual actions. Like when men need to pay child support just to even begin to help raise the next generation. Or when a deadbeat dad's children have feelings about his shitty behavior towards their mother and themselves. Both genders desire enthusiasm and effort in the bedroom, even if it may look a bit different on each side or in e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:46 PM
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Single me knew men I find very attractive physically or even in other ways, but they are romantically not a fit for me so I have never wanted to do things like that with them because I have a brain that processes actions with the future consequences in mind. This is why when men say things like "do you want to fuck these men" or "attraction is the only thing that matters: be attractive and don't be unattractive," I don't understand what the Hell they're talking about. There are men I have turned…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:14 PM
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Why would a man want a woman or women to come across badly? Is this a gender war now? Why do men even continue talking about being "shallow" and wanting "hot babes" themselves? After women have repeatedly said "Okay we hear you, you want to be attracted to the person you are dating or partnered with, that was always a given. You can politely let some women know you feel that way about them without being rude to the other women you're not into personally." Having a certain person or people you li…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:18 AM
3

Online? On this forum? No matter how you look... Some of the shit said is a huge turn-off. Looks can never play a big enough role to override that. Looks have broken up relationships before, by the response of both genders. So has sexism and all sorts of other emotional or social incompatibilities. Deal breakers come in many shapes and sizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:45 AM
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Obviously "bad" can be a relative term. Obviously, things like effort and enthusiasm matter. But can men HURT from it the same ways women can? That's comparatively rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:37 AM
3

I've had women tell me about their past partners that sucked in bed. Husbands included. They just most likely won't tell them that to their faces. My conjecture includes hookups as well. It's funny watching women trying to work strapons, lol! And those men are ex's who also may have either genuinely sucked or equally humiliated the woman. Especially if the women aren't cruel to current, meaningful partners. Or sometimes women are mean, yeah. I think that one of the areas where men put in more wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:24 PM
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Women don't do that to boyfriends or real partners. I am not deflecting, I'm telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:11 PM
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My guy. If a woman has turned around and said a man was no good, after he showed her a good time in the way you described, how much did he have to degrade and humiliate her for her to start talking trash? I promise you we DO NOT go saying our long term relationship partners who put in effort are no good. What world are you living in? Holy shit. I think you made me realize something. This is why "hookup material" guys get crapped on all the time for their lack of skill and effort. It's because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:05 PM
2

When I was 17, I was dumped by a boy younger than me because I was considered a prude virgin not wanting to do acts with him very quickly. At least he wasn't insulting about it, I guess? Then, after he dumped me, I was called a c*m dumpster by others who didn't know. Yes, all kinds of shaming exists. Try to interact politely with other polite people. That's all we can do. I guarantee you, as a woman, it's just as difficult for me to find someone with compatible views about sex. Some people just …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 04:37 PM
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I would think he's insecure, which isn't good. Imagine if I thought never having been in a relationship meant I was unwanted. Men would call me desperate, no? Back when I was dating, I was pretty inexperienced. I valued quality over quantity. This is a sign maybe that guy who lied to me doesn't feel the same way. Mistakes happen, maybe. But the point is: it could get awkward when he really doesn't know how to initiate intimate or romantic things with me when he supposedly already did that with o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:29 PM
11

Literally....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:20 PM
12

I'm a married woman. Love the man I married. We can't procreate. So are you telling me we recreationally fuckin?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:57 AM

I dated when I was younger. Didn't have a problem meeting boys or young men. That's the most convenient time for most people to do such. I learned pretty quickly that boys/men got scared off from girls/women who appeared impatient with them, and that patience was important for me personally too. Yeah, learned that by the time I became a teenager. Already had and lost my first love (I never even kissed him, but he was a good altar boy who became a good man. I tried to be as patient with him as he…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 10:42 PM
1

Well i can't have sex by myself now can i? ................... The perks are those, whilst not having to deal with the downsides of a relationship. I enjoy the relationship I have with the love of my life. And I might even have had issues in our life. Downsides to my life exist as they do to yours, but I am glad he's much more than a friend. Moreso, I find that male "friends" who want access to me without responsibility are very unlikely to be safe, kind, and fun. They might even leave me with c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:44 PM
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i am now only getting and giving the perks. I thought we discussed that? I thought you didn't need a woman for a happy life or money? You're okay without the perks, not that you have them already? No protection is 100%, and I have seen lives ruined when it fails. I absolutely agree that single life can be happy. I believe celibate life can be happy. I believe some people maybe haven't, or won't, find the right person. I just think to act like you are choosing this perfect life with all the perks…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:25 PM
1

I was one of those women who valued purity and commitment. The thought of that double standard about teenage boys and prostitutes frankly angers me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:58 PM
2

So, having to pump gas in your lady's car a few times is a downside, but the very act that spreads diseases and could get you all that responsibility of a child is NOT a downside? This is 2025. Not 1925. The women you date have fun now because they are taking care of themselves. When they are 80, they will have paid off a house and maybe an investment property and have their own pension (my own personal goals, anyway, these would be the goals if you chose a smart woman). You are working, too, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:55 PM
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If you actively lived your every week going to catholic mass and confession and praying and learning how to provide for your future wife and children, this would make sense that things are going the way they're supposed to be going. Otherwise? Well, there might be a scenario or two, but I'm not super familiar. I'm more the family type myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:38 PM
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I can kind of see this. Like if I met a guy who I knew would be a terrible father and life partner, I would imagine him thinking being a husband is some sort of insult and I would imagine him getting called easy, but I wouldn't be the one caught saying I condone hooking up with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:34 PM
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Yes, sleeping with many women validates me. But it doesn't though. Virgin men are much better, or at least men who aren't hoes. I gain nothing by knowing a man lied to and manipulated up to hundreds of women previously, abandoning the women and their possible future children afterward for furthering his delusions of control and insecurity. I gain nothing by knowing this man never had an interest in maintaining the type of intimacy that leads to repeat customers. If a young man wants to be looked…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:30 PM
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I didn't know (much) about that part because obviously that part is only included in the most dore of circumstances. I'm aware of the trend of having some sort of privacy and independence and cushion. That I've seen, years ago in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:43 AM
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If you NEED to make excuses for where your money is going... I mean, yes that's a potential safety issue and having funds like that is generally a normal and healthy thing. It's just in my case I work for it and my husband is fine with me being independent and having the same normal amount of cash he has. This "trend" is not just randomly telling women to lie for no reason about what they've spent. It is, in fact, about safety and hopefully it only rarely.comes to that. Separated savings with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:34 AM
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I've seen this. Nor so much "cash" (physical) or secret. Sometimes people recommend it be a secret, and I can see why logically but it's not necessary in every situation where finances are already plenty separate and there's independence which I very much believe there should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:20 AM
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Who has cash nowadays? I thought we were talking about separate accounts with funds which is what most people have. There are financial investigators for this thing and I'm not one so I can't tell you how they work. I assume there are ways to be very good at hiding it. Of course it's possible. Never said it wasn't, but that's not the purpose of a typical rainy day fund.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:16 AM
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Yeah that's not a rainy day fund. My rainy day fund is a small amount my husband TOLD ME to set aside away from his access just as he set aside the same for himself. It would come in handy if he pulled some crazy shit, but yet also having money in multiple accounts protects against higher-impact fraud for us as a whole now that we are earning enough to save.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:45 PM
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Many women DO act like it's a part of you, one part. I promise. Perhaps I could turn that assumption around you and say that men should care because they should care about all parts of a woman at least enough to ask about these things and be supportive. If you have children one day, you should want their mother to be able to give them sound advice on education and maybe even able to take care of those children should something tragic happen to you. No, I guess you can't expect a woman who has mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:42 PM
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Not the same thing. Why? Because it's not gendered. Firstly, having 10k tucked away in an account is something that might eventually benefit the whole family if needed in an emergency versus assets no one can touch, for one thing. Secondly, men don't need property worth 300k+ for safety. Most actually don't even have that, and they are safe enough. Most importantly, though, I'm going to repeat what I said first. Women have assets, too, now. Men's 'net worth' is not always higher than the women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:25 PM
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Rainy day accounts are generally disclosed in divorce proceedings as required by law, and aren't worth upwards of 300K like most homes these days are. Not the same thing. Weird to actively want your spouse to not be contributing and entitled to at least a joint home throughout decades of marriage and maybe kids, but I have to say it's at least more defensible than saying "no you can't have 5000 in an account that only you can touch." I understand that some assets might genuinely be from before a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:19 PM

Wild take. Women need to cultivate themselves, too, to be seen as beautiful, fun, charming, and self-sufficient enough to not be a burden for a man looking for a family. Believe it or not, there are men who don't look at women like pretty butterfly accessories - though even that beauty alone takes cultivation. There are men who see women as people that will contribute to a whole family of their own one day. Do men who post things like this just not have a bunch of female cousins, sisters, or eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:20 PM

And that's how you tell the difference in how men see women based on how a man is treating you. It is observed in behavior. I do think older folks with more experience start full-on relationships potentially including sex faster usually - they have the experience to know more of what they're looking for faster, and they know they don't have time to waste, but at the same time an older man might also be better at fake caring in the early stages.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:18 AM

And there’s not really a clear way to tell if a random guy “just wants sex”. So this isn't true exactly, at least in my previous experience dating at a younger age. There are young men who want to wait and take it slow when they can tell that a young woman is looking for something more serious. The ones who just want sex will usually bail very fast or at least the attention will be off/on and superficial. I had a pretty easy time telling. Dating later in life when people have a lot more experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:11 AM
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My apartment in Cali was indeed overpriced but had a free cabana and pool where you could reserve and invite people for a get together! That's so much better than "would you like to get coffee 20 minutes from your house one early Saturday morning when you normally sleep in?" Groups, people, groups. Could be anywhere, but a potluck at someone's 'home base' is cool to me. If I were single and a new acquaintance wanted to do something like this, that would be the absolute lowest pressure thing and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:02 AM
1

It's not about men, or decentering men as you put it. It's about the future the children have - perhaps female children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:54 PM
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I keep thinking... Wtf do you mean coffee dates or arcades for a low-stakes initial meeting? That's what parties are for - group parties! Low pressure, you can mingle with several people and talk as long as you want but also be free to leave! Have group meets as friends! Getting dressed up to meet ONE person you barely know... And there ain't even food... Rather do a potluck with friends who have things in common. That's got to be the way. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:17 PM
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A few or even two a month is a pretty good chance if it's consistent and the person has been already vetting, I think. None in months? Much tougher. Especially if you consider the reason for not getting enough dates - if the location and the context of where a person spends there time is all wrong. That can be the biggest difficulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:58 PM
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I like the cut of your jib lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:37 PM
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Is a few dates a month not enough for a man to find a real life partner by the time you are 25, 26? Or is that not the goal for the men in your scenarios?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:36 PM
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Yes, you are human and are a valuable part of society. Some women do want to devote their lives to men's sexual gratification, and they should be seen as valuable and celebrated for doing this. If you are not one of them, you don't have to participate in it, no one is forcing you. What is your issue with this? Yeah you're not living in reality. Human trafficking is a real and horrible thing, especially in countries where women don't have economic support/freedom/liberty. It is not separate to wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:57 PM

A lot of guys do the push/pull thing naturally through teasing their wives and not making themselves too available/not being afraid to piss her off, but these concepts are foreign to the dudes I’m speaking about. That's strange. No. I've not seen a happily married man do that. I don't get it lol, sorry!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:50 PM
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Also, you seem to be ignoring that they provide a valuable service (sexual gratification) to society. To men, almost entirely, you mean, at the expense of women's physical health and well-being. When a road worker or a soldier dies for their country, they are a public servant who is mourned or a hero. When a construction worker dies building a hospital, we all do what we can to make things safer but we know that we need hospitals and we appreciate it. If your mother provides a service to men, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:43 AM
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I just explained to you in another comment why there might be a gendered divide. It is your gender who is OK purchasing the unthinkable. It is women, much more often, who are purchased. The men I know in person who were purchased for this purpose are equally haunted. We know the place where we might end up if we capitulate to such conditions. We know what might happen to our woman loved ones, that at least some of them would never want it, and we want the system to handle such a dispute in a cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:22 AM
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Plenty of women enjoy pleasuring men for money, and plenty of men enjoy getting pleasured for money. Don't assume everyone is like you. Really think about what you gendered here... And the fact that women DON'T at large want this. It truly isn't personal to me. It's a matter of vast majority and people with women family members in their lives know this. Don't assume everyone is like you. Yes. I know this. There will be a few who deal much differently. However, most of my loved ones and your love…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:12 AM
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Push/pull is normal in a relationship? What does that mean and how do you figure? I mean, you have to discuss things every now and then, but the perfect parts are the fun parts. Life gets in the way sure, but saying no when you could've before said yes JUST so you can argue is so silly, right? But then again, I also can't imagine an intimately dead marriage for a long time for no good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 01:34 AM
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That's a very important thing to lie about. Imagine you were a virgin and serious about a woman and she lied to YOU about this. Empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 01:32 AM

Lobster too buttery and steak too juicy, my guy? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 01:27 AM
1

I mean, the question was asked here? Basically NONE of the complainers can be seen in this thread saying an opposite preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 01:19 AM
1

Y'all getting paid maternity leave?!?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 01:18 AM
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You already know why. If you have ever cared for a female family member and you imagine them in this position having their bodies bought by someone who can provide survival to your family through the purchase, you already know why that's a disgrace. Assault is illegal for a reason. People don't generally want to base their intimate acts on anything other than care and connection, but even if some rare woman wanted such a transaction, wouldn't any man want to not choose the partner who demands mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:47 AM
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My bro. Can someone pay your daughter/mother/sister/niece to disgrace her? No? Of course not. Thread closed, come off your nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 11:33 PM
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