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Haha, once my divorce was ‘public’ I also had single moms from my past reach out to ‘see how I was doing’
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/24 01:12 AM
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If you just want sex, no one is as DTF as a separated or newly divorced wife
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/24 01:11 AM
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If you just want sex, no one is as DTF as a separated or newly divorced wife
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/24 01:11 AM
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If you have a separation agreement, it’ll say you can bang others and not be considered cheating. That said, proving the actual act of sex is necessary, but it will provide another issue for you to navigate, as well as kiss her off. They said, she’s already banging other dudes, so don’t feel too morally down on it
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/24 01:10 AM
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Wish we had split debts and assets, and convinced her to wait on selling the house. Instead, to stop her from forcing us to sell the house at a loss, I had to take on the debt and give her all the assets. Two years later, this deal has worked out for me and I’d break even, but it was two years of literally not being able to afford heat even
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/24 01:09 AM
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It is, but trying to love your wife more just makes things worse, weirdly enough.
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/24 01:04 AM
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It’ll get better. I’m about two years out, and 9 months out I felt the exact same as you. Probably worse. It gets better. It may never get as good as it was pre cheating, but it’ll be better than you feel now
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/24 01:03 AM
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Definitely agree a key part of me ‘growing up’ was realizing no one was going to come save me, and I had to do everything on my own.
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/24 01:02 AM
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Yeah. While all of my friends from divorced homes say it was bad for them, you can still make the best of a bad situation, and this ‘beating’ thing ain’t it
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/24 01:00 AM
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Happens. My ex refused to sign jointly, so I had to pay 3.5k and she lost out on a 1.5k rebate. Just for spite reasons
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/24 12:59 AM
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Definitely was a ‘nice guy’ in my divorce and it burned me badly. Someone divorcing you, especially in the manner for most here, is literally doing the worst thing to you that anyone ever has or will. Expecting someone capable of that to respond to kindness is insanity
/r/Divorce_Men05/04/24 12:27 PM
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The latter. Think if you had added a friend in same situation, but now wanted him off. How much of that house do you think he owns?
/r/Divorce_Men05/04/24 02:51 AM
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Away on a trip for two weeks. Found a new guy on her IG, checked his profile out, had pics of them together on it. I’m convinced a woman who wants to travel by herself is going to cheat
/r/Divorce_Men05/04/24 02:31 AM
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I’ll just say I didn’t think it was cheating either, swore it wasn’t. Once i discovered she had cheated right around the exact time she changed, it made sense. But yeah, mine has a ‘I’ve never loved you’ speech too, after saying she did love me but it had changed to a family love
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/24 01:56 PM
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My ex did the same, at the start, wanted to still be friends and said it wasn’t my fault, then it switched she needed to go live in her home country to find herself, then to I did too much for her and made feel pressured, and last I spoke to her 18 months ago it was they I was abusing her. Really, it was all about new dick, which after a lot of reading, it’s what I’ve realized divorce comes down too. A guy gave her her tingles, and then biology kicked in and the brain scrambling to protect their…
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/24 12:39 PM
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Pretty much why you said, wolves in sheep clothing who play along just to smash and try to hit in these women with the intent. Women rarely are actively out there hitting on men, so even when they cheat, it’s more they’re at most putting themselves into position to hit on. Basically, there’s a reason the Bible calls it a sin for both the adulterer and the man who seduces her
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/24 10:12 PM
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‘Doesn’t have partners’? So it’s all yet another justification for being a whore? Way too much of that these days.
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/24 07:49 PM
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100%. She told me she had half her life to live, and didn’t want to live it like this. So, she’s been traveling, fucking, drinking, and doing what ever hobbies she dreamed of doing. I haven’t heard from her in 18 months, but I’m sure she’s still talking about how she went through so many struggles her entire life but she’s finally happy
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/24 04:34 PM
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Same here. We men really don’t understand women. Until stuff like this forces us too if we want to make sense of what happened to us
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/24 04:28 PM
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No women is as horny as a recently separated and/or divorced women. Women ‘find themselves’ through dick, and getting lots of new dick makes them feel like they made the right decision
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/24 04:03 PM
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Very similar story. No kids, but she would blame me for the cats smell, haha, as if it was me who smelled. Same, had a good life, she blew it up to chase dick
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/24 03:12 PM
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I’ve learned that about most single women my age, haha. It’s not hard for a lady to find a guy, so if she’s still out here, there’s a reason
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/24 01:10 PM
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No, I haven’t remarried anyone. Probably won’t at this point
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/24 11:35 PM
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There’s a differences in being real, and in attributing this behavior in women who do this primarily as the mover. It’s certainly the case sometimes. It’s definitely not the case most of the time
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/24 06:56 PM
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Well, frequency matters. The behavior you described has been perfectly normal on occasion, but if it’s happening every day, that’s different. Like, I’ve had an ex screaming and eating tape. I guess it wasn’t like they for long enough to lock it in As for literal, I think you’re looking only at you, while I’m looking more at the whole.
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/24 06:54 PM
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Definitely agree. In person, I get women asking me out, OLD dating is quite the opposite
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/24 01:43 PM
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My best experience’s dating in life have been with the women I’ve put the least effort towards. If they want to sex you, they will, and it’ll be easy. If it’s not easy, they don’t really want to sex you, and just wasting everyone’s time if you keep trying.
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/24 01:42 PM
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I agree a lot of things in life are like that. If it’s a position where you have to act outside the normal bounds in response, it’s too late, as someone who would respond to rational behavior like that wouldn’t put you on that spot to begin with
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/24 12:59 PM
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Oh, that’s not nuts at all, haha. Which is sad. Like, if you’re not worried she’s trying to literally kill you and/or your kids, we’re veering into low end of normal behavior
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/24 12:57 PM
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A simple saying, but covers a lot. It wasn’t fake, it wasn’t a trick, it’s just you only get a turn
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/24 12:54 PM
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Considering that’s exactly what happened with me ex and she cheated, traveling is a hard you’re just for fun, do not invest’ flag for me
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/24 02:25 AM
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Yup, ‘budget’ is equivalent to ‘abuse’ I’ve found. And when they can cut and run when you’ve gotten to deep and leave you high and dry, well, it makes sense
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/24 11:25 PM
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Most complaints wives with their husbands stem from them not liking them being whores. It’s where ‘controlling’ and ‘insecure’ come from
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/24 08:22 PM
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I preferred being married, but my marriage was good until it ended overnight. I’ve read many accounts here of men sounded like they’re married to demons, and divorce sounds great compared
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/24 08:18 PM
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If it makes you feel any better, 6 months out I was still thinking of her most hours. Took a full year before it was only a few times during the day. Two years out now, and I find myself surprised when I didn’t think of her. So time helps those wounds scar
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/24 05:56 PM
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Can be smarter. I had a co worker who was cheated and divorced twice. He went back for round 3, and well, he’s single again
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/24 05:55 PM
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It’s definitely the lower risk path. Could be lower reward, depending on what you value as success. As for years and years, I’m at two years now, and zero plan to start dating the next year
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/24 05:54 PM
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The hardest part of my divorce and ex’s affair was accepting I didn’t do anything wrong. At all. It was 100% her fault. Which makes it worse in many ways, but I had to accept that
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/24 04:04 PM
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This is very common. My ex did it too before the affair. Women can’t cheat like men, so to sleep with a new man they have to denigrate the own one in their mind. And other stuff, but the point is, it’s all BS, your fine, and she’s a bitch
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/24 04:00 PM
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Yup, a wife only comes back if her monkey branch broke and she is unable to support herself
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/24 12:52 PM
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That’s how it goes, sadly. And even if you do make things better, the marriage suffers damage. Because she forever was thinking about leaving when it was bad, and it makes her vulnerable going forward
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/24 12:51 PM
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Well, my ex defined ‘abuse’ after she cheated and left as ‘making her reckless’ because I told her it was fine she didn’t have to work, was fine if she didn’t want to leave the house, and was fine if she didn’t want to do chores and just focus on entertainment.
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/24 12:50 PM
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Doesn’t even have to be that all the time, as wives lose sexually attraction to their husbands by nature. She could have been really hot and bothered when he was her boyfriend, but time passed and she wants new tingles
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/24 12:39 PM
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Yes. Tingles from another dude is vastly the cause of divorce. Behavior from her husband can make her more open to receiving tingles, and her own behavior in putting herself into situations where men will come onto her can get us to that point, but ultimately, it’s the tingles that’s kill marriages
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/24 12:37 PM
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My ex literally said ‘she’d cut anyone out of her life she needed to so she could be happy’ as how much women are pushed to cast everything for their tingles. She still has never spoken to me or her family since that day, 18 months ago
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/24 11:47 AM
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The non working wife feeling like she’s in a competition I totally get. My ex was like that as well, literally saying at times we were on a competition. I never took it seriously, because it seemed bizarre to me, as I thought we were a team sport here, not like drivers for F-1
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/24 11:41 AM
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For the divorce? Her, she cheated and didn’t want to try and work things out. For how difficult it was for such a simple divorce? Her again, she refused to even talk to me so it was a huge pain to get accounts and stuff disintegrated
/r/Divorce_Men30/03/24 11:13 PM
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My ex cheated on one, too. To be fair, she had literally never done one until then, but I guess it only takes one
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/24 10:26 PM
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Yup, I was too. So I’m not upset when my friends don’t have much time for me. Wow if you say no to a girls night, which always involves drinking
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/24 09:28 PM
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Agreed. It’s well known it get involved with single moms for a serious relationship. Stuff like this happening is part of the package, I can’t even really fault her for it.
/r/Divorce_Men28/03/24 01:30 PM
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Yup, if they’re leaving it’s because they want to be with other men, they know that’s wrong, they can’t handle being the bad guy, so they have to literally brainwash themselves and lie to everyone
/r/Divorce_Men28/03/24 01:27 PM
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We didn’t have separate anything, and money issues, but no kids. Still was a pain to get everything taken care of, and we still have a few joint accounts still open because 2 months after she left she refused to ever speak to me again in any form
/r/Divorce_Men28/03/24 01:24 PM
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Yup. And I understand someone not understanding. As not only does society demonize people for talking about, they actually push the exact opposite. It leaves poor guys bamboozeld when they get cheated on when it’s really just following the script
/r/Divorce_Men28/03/24 01:23 PM
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Yes. This is why ‘tingles’ are the cause of the majority of divorces. Attraction biological fades over time, and sprouts up over very little and starts at is highest point. It’s easy to see why the cheating starts
/r/Divorce_Men28/03/24 01:21 PM
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100% accurate. ‘chasing tingles’ is what the majority of divorce is all about Everything else women say? Denying this because they know it’s awful and makes them horrible peopel
/r/Divorce_Men28/03/24 03:00 AM
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100%. Having sex with someone else totally warps them
/r/Divorce_Men27/03/24 04:35 PM
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I don’t think you can set a boundary, really. If someone’s doing this, they don’t care
/r/Divorce_Men27/03/24 12:29 PM
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If she left in that situation, it’s almost always to have space to fuck other men. If she comes back it’s just because she isn’t able to live on her own, was unable to secure someone else to take care of her, and needs a warming plate until she can do the above
/r/Divorce_Men27/03/24 03:32 AM
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Very few people leave a relationship without having at least a good hunch they have sex somewhere else lined up. Other things can cause a relationship to get to that point, but it’s sex with others that causes the end
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/24 07:12 PM
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This. If someone ‘moves on quickly’ either something is really twisted internally, or more likely, they ‘moved on’ while in the relationship. And I don’t mean, fell out of love and want to leave; they fall out of love because they meet someone else who turns them on
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/24 07:10 PM
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I’d agree; some say ‘you see the real her’ but I honestly think that’s coming from a man’s perspective. We can’t understand having a total shift like that, but for a woman, it’s possible
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/24 07:05 PM
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Is agree, every serious relationship I had I was the one chased. If they want you, you’ll know. Trying to force it isn’t a great strategy.
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/24 07:05 PM
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Yup, there is no chance no matter what. But one will cause him more pain and cost him dignity
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/24 07:03 PM
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I don’t think you can ever accuse someone. If they’re cheating, it’s over, you can’t do anything. If they’re not cheating, well, you just done killed it yourself. Best you can say is some activities make yiu uncomfortable, and if she persists or downplays it, you leave, or at least understand it’s a ‘not yours, your turn’ situation and just pull back and get what enjoyment you can until it ends
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/24 03:51 PM
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Definitely agree with finalized divorce, if not ‘making it worse’ definitely causing a relapse. Mine was awful at the start, but we had about a 8 month gap between our last contact and divorce being final. Definitely fell back a bit when the paperwork came
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/24 03:49 PM
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Yeah, it’s definitely made me less trusting. The thing is, in my social circle, it’s been panning out when I ‘see the signs’ and think someone is cheating and learn months later it was the case. Like, we had a friend blow off video games with us to ‘clean the house’ while his wife was out in a girls weekend. Sure enough, he was cheating
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/24 03:47 PM
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I’ll just say the first sign my ex cheated is when she when for a girls night out and didn’t contact me till 2:30 on the next day, and new guy popped up on her followers. Guess who she had sex with that night
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/24 03:34 PM
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Ah, CA. Yeah, I’ve heard of the sketchy turf for Alimony at 10+ marriage puts you in
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/24 03:26 PM
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To be fair, I think that’s what most of these things amount too
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/24 03:24 PM
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Haha, Japan again. The 3rd time someone has told me to come to Japan this year. I actually almost joined the Marines last April as JAG, said I could be stationed in Okinawa if I wanted. This upcoming April last chance to change my mind before I age at at 36. Maybe I should do it, burn this life and start over
/r/MensRights21/11/23 09:54 PM
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Congrats! My wife had while not a huge number by modern standards, still a heavy background, and we didn’t even make it to 10
/r/MensRights21/11/23 09:11 PM
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That’s great, that initial connection matters so much, it’s why divorce rates almost double with even one prior partner
/r/MensRights21/11/23 04:55 PM
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Divorced now, but marriage was a huge commitment, and divorce was awful. I’m not taking o. That commitment and the risk as well for most of the women I’ve met in my brief dip into dating again is definitely not worth it
/r/MensRights21/11/23 04:54 PM
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Virginity is overwhelmingly the best indicator of a future divorce, so while it’s not a plan many can take, it’s the best one by far
/r/MensRights21/11/23 04:49 PM
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It shows what women find attractive based solely on physical appearance. There are more ways of being attractive
/r/MensRights21/11/23 04:48 PM
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It mostly comes in from an OkCupid study years ago. A modern Tinder version showed actually only 5%, haha
/r/MensRights21/11/23 04:47 PM
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I’ve been cheated on by 3/4 relationships. My best friend has been cheated on in 3/3 of his relationships. His little brother has ‘helped’ many women cheat on their boyfriends. Little brothers friend helps women cheat, but also has been cheated on both of his most recent relationships… Honestly, I know more people than not who have been cheated on.
/r/MensRights21/11/23 04:46 PM
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My state, class 2 if a man is hit by anyone, Class 1A if a man hits a women. 6x higher punishment. this is for minor assault and battery , injury can drive it to felony
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:12 AM
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Unless he’s a weird state, won’t be an arraignment, just a misdemeanor. Just nonsense the court shovels through every day
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:11 AM
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Yup, going to court with completed classes before the first court date is a good look to get the Prosecutor and/or judge depending on the state/county to just let it go. They really don’t need much to punt crap like this into the trash
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:10 AM
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The earlier you make the decision to commit to divorce, the better you’ll come out. Trust me though, I know that’s a hard decision to make
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:09 AM
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Yeah, gives even more credibility to ‘not retaliate’.
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:08 AM
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I mean, even middle schoolers know that’s stupid how you think. It’s literally in the curriculum so they can see what a dumb moral system is. Did you skip class?
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:07 AM
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No, you’re unhinged and ranting, and said something incredibly wrong, and can’t even admit, so you’re doing more unhinged ranting. Can you admit you’re and idiot? We can take of you can’t even understand you peed in the carpet Life must be great to be yo.
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:04 AM
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So. Yeah, legal positivism. Are you really that dumb?
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:03 AM
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Legal positivism? Does anyone actually follow that? It’s like a middle school example of a simple but flawed morality system
/r/MensRights20/11/23 10:03 PM
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No, you just talked about jail a bunch. You were wrong. I let ya know.
/r/MensRights20/11/23 07:51 PM
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Yeah, no direct charges. The rest well…if he’s getting divorced, this will likely save money
/r/MensRights20/11/23 07:50 PM
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Yup, everyone her will want a vicarious pound of flesh. Thst said, my experience with women is she will never forgive calling the cops…even if she says or acts like. It will simmer and be a universal ‘I can do whatever I want’ justification in her mind for literally anything in the future
/r/MensRights20/11/23 06:07 PM
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This is sadly the truth. Just doing this probably ended the marriage. And he needs to start acting like it’s over to protect himself. Coming from an idiot who tried to save a marriage when it was clear a single moment ended it, and got burned hard
/r/MensRights20/11/23 06:02 PM
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Yeah, when I read ‘I grabbed her’ made my old prosecutor brain flare up
/r/MensRights20/11/23 06:00 PM
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Victim advocates can be some serious shit stirrers. And then when I got the conviction they convinced the women they wanted, they advocate would try to get me to call his bail when they started living together again afterwards. Judges love if I try thst, let me tell you
/r/MensRights20/11/23 05:58 PM
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Hmm, it shouldn’t cost him anything to press charges directly. Time of work, sure. Emotional wages, definitely. Relationship wise, of course. But the state has Prosecutors who are abused to do this
/r/MensRights20/11/23 05:56 PM
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She won’t got to jail, haha. If it’s really ‘not normal’ she won’t have a record, and l don’t know any Judge whose such a hard ass to give time for something like this with no prior record. Usually its unsupervised probation, which basically means don’t pick up more charges over the next year
/r/MensRights20/11/23 05:55 PM
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Hmm, for a typical misdemeanor that doesn’t go to trial, I’d say it’s a bit high. But, lawyer prices can vary greatly, you tend to get what you pay for. The number I gave was just to sit down and talk for an hour.
/r/MensRights20/11/23 05:50 PM
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Yes, I’ve seen it before as a prosecutor. Tough sell too, as you have to actually be ‘afraid’ of your wife to try and justify, and as he said, he’s a big guy and it didn’t phase him.
/r/MensRights20/11/23 03:11 PM
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It will still show up at on her record as being charged, but will say it was voluntarily dismissed. How that looks for custody…well, it’s probably better than nothing, but obviously it wouldn’t have the stigma of a conviction. I haven’t done family law in years though, and it was never my passion so probably a better atty to ask for that. All of this is very county specific though, as well. When you hire an attorney, it’s more for their knowledge of the local court policy and players, not some ‘…
/r/MensRights20/11/23 03:09 PM
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Not sure in your state, but I’m a former prosecutor, and while the Victim can’t choose to drop charges, the State can take a dismissal. I, personally, if a victim didn’t want to proceed and I didn’t get a ‘Im in danger vibe’ after talking to them would take the dismissal, because I was massively overworked anyways and didn’t need a lot of convincing. My co worker attorney the time on the other hand, she’d fight everything. But, since you’re a male victim, I bet it wouldn’t be hard to to talk and…
/r/MensRights20/11/23 01:52 PM
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Yup, I only see older women act like that these days. Like, my office is mostly 40+ chicken women. We hired a new 28 year old paralegal, and she’s super skinny and gorgeous, and the chicken women shit talk her all the time. But women under 40, I’ve rarely seen it.
/r/MensRights20/11/23 01:48 PM
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Yup, ‘equitable distribution’ will split everything down the middle of you’re lucky, even if it was brought in by you, because it ain’t hard to convert separate property to marital property and get it split. Then alimony and child support go on top of that, so if you’re trying to work yourself like a dog so your wife doesn’t have too…going to end real bad when she inevitably loses sexual attraction. Pre nups are good, get it signed waaaay ahead of marriage, get her her own attorney to review, an…
/r/MensRights18/11/23 05:01 AM
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Maybe doc review? Bottom feeder law work but they don’t require an active license
/r/MensRights18/11/23 04:55 AM
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I’d say me and most my friends proposed because 1) we loved our GFs l, like making them happy, and marriage was something they really really wanted and 2) the understanding that if we didn’t propose, the relationship would essentially be over eventually. Most men don’t think it’s a big deal, as hey, their GF is awesome, as a wife she should be the same or even better as I’m doing so much more for her and giving her so much of myself! Sadly stats show women almost uniformly lose attraction after …
/r/MensRights16/11/23 04:02 PM
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It’s kinda funny. Like a hilarious form of punching down
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:06 PM
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Well, the difference and why it’s not really hypergamy for men. Is the man doesn’t want to leave his wife for the hot blonde. He’ll bang her, and then act like nothing happened and go on with his life. Women don’t do that when they cheat. They struggle with accountability, so they’ll also blame their ex for why they cheated and move on
/r/TheRedPill14/11/23 05:28 PM
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This. Studies showed almost all wives lost attraction to their husbands over 5 years of marriage. No factor the study looked at impacted it. Chad probably starts at a higher attraction, so it’s not as big an issue, but she’s still going to get bored and entitled and vulnerable to other men, as women love those tingles the unknown Chad gives them, even if they’re married to a Chad, because a lot of their attraction is mental
/r/TheRedPill14/11/23 05:26 PM
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Then it did it’s job, congratulations. The concept isn’t hard, and once you understand and accept, literally a waste of your time to keep thinking about. Just enjoy life and don’t worry about getting laid
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:24 PM
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Bible does say some folks aren’t meant to be married, and that’s not a bad thing. Let’s you be closer to God. Good on you, wish you the best
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:20 PM
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Haha, I guess at 36, that does put 25 in the range. But I met me ex at 26, and that formula would’ve put me at 20, which even when I was in law school, college girls were just a bad idea.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:14 PM
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It’s why something like bumble sees better, as men don’t ‘vet’ until they get a match as they get so few
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 01:51 PM
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Yup, western men don’t understand the paying for the family angle, as we don’t do it here in the west
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 01:50 PM
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Not by much, definitely can tell the lack its maturity in a college girl. A 25 year old isn’t so much different maturity wise from a 35 year old, with waaaay less baggage
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 01:49 PM
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This. It’s not that older women can’t still be good, despite the natural consequences of age. It’s that women have an incredibly easy time getting into relationships and even more so, men to duck them, that the odds of finding a women in her 30s who is single and not damaged is essentially low enough to the point to not be an option. Finding this out after getting back on the dating scene at 36 after a 9 year marriage ended
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 01:48 PM
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If it even happened. I’ve worked on family law, and had a fair bit of divorce amongst my friends and family. The majority of women in divorce claimed abuse, but when I knew the full story, it was lies way more often than not. So, without evidence, I don’t believe a divorced women when she says her ex was ‘abusive and controlling’ which as far as I can see was ‘he wasn’t happy I wanted to be a hoe’
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 01:00 PM
0

After being married to someone with mental health issues, I have to agree. Leaves damage, and probably not worth it
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:56 PM
1

Cardio and calories. If you stay at it, you’ll get there. But I had to do pull ups for the marines recently and man, carrying some extra lbs makes it so much harder
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:53 PM
1

It was 34% of women are single. I know for a fact all my ‘single’ women friends are still having sex. My single guy friends? They aren’t having sex.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:50 AM
1

Wasn’t that the basic thrust of your post?
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:23 AM
4

Indeed, if women can avoid land whale status they’re fine. Men who have pudge are pretty disgusting
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:21 AM
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Def notice the ugly women hating the attractive women. My law office is mostly women, 7 atty, 2 of which are women, and 19 staff, all of which are women. Almost all of the staff are middle aged chicken women. Well, the most recent paralegal is a young, super petite Asian girl (only non white in office) and the chicken women gossip incessantly about her like it’s some sin that she takes care of her looks.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:19 AM
1

Definitely, a woman at a music festival is going to be much more open to duck an average door than if you approach her at a coffee shop or something
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:31 AM
3

A Chad, one of the 10% OP said get to have casual sex
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:30 AM
2

I don’t think normies even think about Incels
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:23 AM
1

I’d think some of those guys are divorced, too
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 09:42 PM
1

My ex had an affair with a younger guy, and went on a travel tour and slept with many younger men with her divorce money. She didn’t have an actual career though, so she’s now living with some guy 8 years older than her
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 09:25 PM
4

Smart phones and social media brought the corporate interests here. But I remember the glory days of late 90s and early 00s when it was just geeky men
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 09:21 PM
3

Of course, look at gay sexual rates. Off the charts. That’s what it looks like without women putting a breaker into things. Men’s thirst is endless
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:53 PM
1

True, it’s very hard
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:45 PM
7

Sad thing is for most men, it’s neither. It’s solitude or BB
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:34 PM
1

Probably true, but I’ve never had a random woman ‘fizz me up’ like that, so I can’t say for sure, haha
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:33 PM
1

Any variation on this is a good one
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 07:47 PM
1

Hmm…I guess it’s kinda like simp? Maybe?
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 07:42 PM
1

I think you hit the nail on the head with the last paragraph; finding a women whose okay with the arrangement. My experience with women is at the start of the relationship they will say their fine with anything, even sleeping with other women, but that quickly dries up and within months they want everything you arr
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 07:39 PM
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I’ve only ever had sex in a relationship, been in 4 total, and between them was 6 months, 3.5 years, and 1.5 years, and getting close to 1.5 years this time So…no, it’s pretty much my experience, I think I’m ab above average guy, and I can’t get a woman on tap like a woman can, and women seem to think I can
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 07:29 PM
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Pretty much, but women tend to only really see Chad as men, so they think all men can have Chads success while they attack them for Chads bad behavior. And example on how women don’t understand this. A few weeks ago I was having dinner at some married friends house. The conversation turned to one of the wife’s friends, and her boyfriend of 5 years who still refused to move in with her or get a real job. Her husband had long said she should leave him for another man while she’s still young, she i…
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 07:01 PM
1

Maybe I’ll sell my house and give it a shot some day if I can get a more flexible job, haha. Probably could cobble together 100k to start over
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 06:22 PM
3

I’m not even sure how pick me is an insult.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 06:18 PM
2

Definitely number 2.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 06:18 PM
3

Definitely, being rich in a 3rd country might be barely middle class here. Even today, it’s hard to have a remote job to make the salary and live in said country though, so it’s actually hard for most men to ‘leverage’ their ‘wealth’ as if they stay over there, their income will dry up and they won’t be rich, but if they bring them back here, we’ll, that income isn’t rich here.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 06:17 PM
1

Just saw a relatively mild post get hit by Reddit admins, so the process is starting, haha. I also had a post removed by them a few days ago, again, mild stuff
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 06:12 PM
2

Haha, I don’t think I’m anorexic, but my friends did almost call me that when I was talking about wanting to lose another 10 lbs, which would still have me in a ‘healthy’ BMI. Healthy eating does make a difference, just feel better internally when I’m running off boiled eggs, veggies, and chicken compared to downing burgers and beer.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 06:00 PM
1

Point 4 is true and part of a changing culture in general where Asian women are starting to turn away from white men. At least what I noticed during a 9 year marriage to my Korean ex wife
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:53 PM
1

Yeah, but they’re staying virgins, for many of them, they just haven’t been in a situation for Chad to find them, and you’re on the clock. I will say though that having that first sexual partner is the biggest thing that will impact later divorce rates. It’s a huge shift to how you see relationships, and people just toss it away without realizing the significance
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:46 PM
1

Well, 120 isn’t fat unless you’re really short. I will say a few lbs loss does make you feel better, I went from 163 to 153 at 5’10 and I feel a lot better and look it too. Took some of the chub off my face. Don’t want to me underweight line your doc said though, I hit 117 and looked like I was dying. Hell, I probably was
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:43 PM
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No, that sounds about right, and I’d put that as ‘effectively all women’. I mean, yeah, the dream is you somehow find that 1/8 women while you’re young before Chad does, but odds heavily stacked against you to make it a ‘plan’ you could ever recommend to someone. Because remember, you except for the genetically gifted, men are at their worst 18-24
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:14 PM
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Yup, that’s what I mean. Women who are ‘single’ are still out there getting sex from men and getting their attention, because even Chad lies and puffs up the women before he pumps them. They just don’t get a relationship out of it, and they call that arrangement ‘single’. Which is very different from a man who single means he’s basically been ignored by women.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:11 PM
2

And I honestly think Chads hooking up with women to pump and dump and men seeing prostitution is really very similar in effect and outcome. It’s like how a GF getting mad at BF going to a strobe club is the same as BF mad at his GF going clubbing. The outcome is the same
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:07 PM
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Honestly, calorie control is enough. I went through some extreme depression and couldn’t eat for 10 weeks and lost 60 lbs. There is a more healthy way to do that, and it’s not hard. It’s not fun though
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:05 PM
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I literally don’t get the ‘pick me’ as insult. It makes zero sense.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:04 PM
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This. Women will make mistakes when a good looking man confidently comes onto them. Heck, I’ve see it happen to my guy friends when strippers do it to them. They don’t think they will, but they get in a bad situation and do things they don’t really wanted to do when they left thst night, because they’re human. Telling people they need to not put themselves into bad situations sets folks off though like nothing else. They think women especially are bastions of rational thought, unswayed by the mo…
/r/TheRedPill13/11/23 04:34 PM
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Which effectively is all women, really
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 04:29 PM
1

I actually haven’t ever seen another man asked out IRL while I’m present, so I don’t know how they typically turn the women down. For me, it was usually a ‘I’m flattered, but I’m not looking to date right now’ Which, to be fair, was true, but when a women asked me out and liked her, I was willing to give it a shot, and each time I did it turned into a relationship
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 04:21 PM
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I agree. The difference is, society denies women’s biology affects how they think, and then tells them to embrace it as ‘right’
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 03:21 PM
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/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:52 PM
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/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:51 PM
2

Maybe 50 years ago, but they’re more expensive than Americans now. I think it’s the Philippines these days? But give a few years, they’ll catch up too
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:40 PM
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I’m pretty sure that’s the default behavior of most people. There’s a reason they have to force folks to pay taxes
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:38 PM
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Not that life is meaningless without sex, but that you reach an age where it’s too hard to start over, so you ride what you have to the end. Enjoy your friendships and room mates, hopefully they’re not too abusive of relationships. Not that you could see
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:16 PM
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My dad said things were like this when he was in HS in the 60s. Difference was, much smaller supply of ‘Chads’ combined with different social pressures, so women settled a good 10 years or so than they do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:11 PM
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Huh, that actually tracks my experience with it. Coming out of a divorce, the women I match with aren’t close to any of my past GFs, so if I wanted to go out it would be for what you said, just casual sex situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:09 PM
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Dunno if it’s maturity, or just brains literally wired a different way
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:05 PM
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Okay, I’m going to use your reasoning on your awful point. See if you can see how dumb it is. ‘You’re saying 100% of menopausal women don’t want to have sex?!’ First, it’s a stupid point as it doesn’t apply to the argument. Second, it’s a stupid tactic because it turns it into an extreme that literally defeats your own argument if you apply the logic elsewhere. It’s a common Reddit idiot tactic.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:55 PM
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Nah, not at all, haha. Folks say it gets better, but they said that about my parents dying too. But hey, we’re men. Just keep going to work, cracking jokes and hanging in there
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:52 PM
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Men are told it all the time, haha. It’s usually an awful idea. I believe women have a much higher success rate. All 4 of the relationships I’ve had in life, she was the one who asked me out. That said, I’ve have turned down a few women who asked me out, so not a 100% success rate
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:51 PM
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I’ve actually had a fist number of my women friends meet a husband off Tinder. Not a huge number, but at least 3 of 25 or so
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:47 PM
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I think the point is they could easily find a man who won’t pump and dump them, but they don’t want that man. Which is understandable, ‘standards’ come from our biology, and they don’t change because we ourselves aren’t up too them. Ugly people want the same mates that hot people want
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:45 PM
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I’ve definitely seen it, but might be less now than it was 10+ years ago when I did it. One time, when I came back from law school to visit my friend on Spring Break, he and his then GF met me at a bar, and they brought one of her friends to try to set us up. My friends GFs we’re always trying to do that. Anyways, we didn’t hit it off at all, and I just wanted to talk about Dark Souls with my buddy I hadn’t seen in months, so his GF and her friend went to the bar to ‘let us talk’. They had at le…
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:43 PM
2

To many women, they are
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:39 PM
4

I will say, we went to a rave as mid 30s while on a Bachelor party weekend, and it was actually nice getting some attention from the Gay men. Women never came out and said I was hot, but the gay men did. Was a funny time
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:38 PM
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I wonder if any stats on ‘Living Apart Together’ or whatever. Does it prevent or at least slow the drop in attraction women get for their husbands? At the least, it makes it much easier to exit if they follow the same path, which insecurities was one of the few things that actually seemed to have some small impact. Obviously not a solution for marriage, but as someone who had a messy divorced at 36, keeping a potential next relationship at arms length sounds nice
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:00 PM
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That’s what I’ve found coming out of a 9 year marriage at 36. If I just want smash, waaay more opportunities to smash mid 30s women. If I want find another wife…eh, women don’t have trouble finding relationships. Good ones are married by 30, so you’re getting someone damaged which isn’t really great
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 07:04 AM
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Yup. And speaking with my women friends, they really don’t understand most guys can’t get another girl as easy as they can get another guy. Topic came up because her husband was talking about how her friend should break up with the loser she’s with for 5 years as he won’t propose or get a real job (but is good looking) and she countered he never says another if his friend should leave his loser gf. Edit; definitely seen the cheating thing as well. Heck, I tried to work things out with my wife wh…
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:59 AM
2

Well, they place is full of crazy extremists, just crazies supported by the folks who run this site. But the Wage Gap has been so debunked if anyone brings it up you know you’re not dealing with someone whose actually thinking, just running on emotion and idiocy
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 03:43 AM
2

Enjoy all the non-women aspects of life?
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 03:39 AM
2

Definitely, I have a Chad friend, committed to one girl. Like, not even one of his best ones. But he did, we’re together for 3 years, she ended up cheating on him with her weed dealer. He was super broken up for a few months. But he’s back to slaying and has been for over 2 years, which is the difference for Chad. For a normal guy, going all in then getting hoe’d on is super hard to come back from. For a Chad, it’s not too hard at all
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 03:39 AM
1

Easier to grift someone over the internet as well, rather than in person. Folks aren’t as real online, so easier on the conscious
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 03:20 AM
2

At the end of the day, politicians like each other no matter the party a lot more than they like their constituents. It was like when I was a prosecutor on non super serious cases. If it was something like property crimes, the defense attorney and I would work out with the Judge in the back, then come out to the court room and put on a show.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 03:07 AM
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Definitely, the thirst of men online is endless, but it’s not really the same in real life
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 03:04 AM
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Dense it is. Jebus. Try to think on how that doesn’t make any sense
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:58 AM
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Yeah, it’s just all upside. Work out bros, it’s good for you
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:39 AM
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Well, single for women is frequently not the same as single for men. Single for men is no sex, no attention. Single for women is often just no commitment, but still sex and attention
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:37 AM
2

Oh, I agree, said as much. But I don’t tend to think women think of them as toys in the moment. Just it’s not built to last
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:12 AM
1

I have a Chad friend who has slept with other of my friends, and once they realize he’s just a duck boy, they all spoke poorly of his sexual performance. On the other hand, it might just be ‘cope’ as said here, as they were sure having lots of sex with him until the ‘break up’
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:10 AM
2

We’re talking about romantic relationships, not people. A person dies without air, a romantic relationship does without sex.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:06 AM
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Eh, for a kind of love, they do. But it’s driven by biology and fades with it. Something can remain, but it’s not the same, and often not enough, so the next rush is sought
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:04 AM
1

Yeah, and the old times didn’t have it great either. Just different. Plenty of dead bedrooms and miserable marriages
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:02 AM
2

Definitely, studies show women lose attraction for their husbands regardless of literally anything their husband does. That includes Chad. He might get a lesser version, but the same process plays out.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 12:36 AM
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Nope, but it’s a requirement. Which I literally said first thing. So you’re either being dense or disingenuous
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 12:34 AM
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I guess, thing about commitment is it’s something you go all in on, but gets broken in a second and you don’t get s refund. Worse than a refund, yiu get hit with a penalty clause for bad behavior the other side did. But you go all in, because ‘she’s not like other women’ and then turns out, heh, she’s just like all other women at for at least one moment, and that’s all it takes
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 11:41 PM
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Hard to talk about someone I don’t even know. I will say I’ve had guys say ‘she’s not like other women’ and get burned very very badly when hey, she was. I was one of those guys, haha
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 11:37 PM
2

Less than normies have. Incels won’t even bets, so they don’t need to worry about their wives sleeping with Chad on a girls night or whatever
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 11:36 PM
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I think it’s less guys want to be Chad, as honestly, I have four Chad friends and with one exception I wouldn’t want to be them, and more guys wish women weren’t hard wired to only want to fuck Chad
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 11:35 PM
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I generally notice they won’t post at the start, once it gets to ‘oh, I think he might propose’ levels, he’ll be everywhere, and once the wedding new smell wears off l, back to radio silence
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 11:33 PM
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This. Folks will type a lot, but it comes down to this.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 11:32 PM
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Line I said, it’s no longer a romantic relationship. They’ve reached an age where that’s not feasible. It’s still a relationship, and one they probably value and don’t have much choice on the romantic front anymore either way
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 11:30 PM
2

Oh, my Chad friends are the most misogynistic men I know. At worst, it literally does not matter
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 11:28 PM
3

It really absolutely isn’t. What you have is two people fine not being I a romantic relationship anymore. It’s just a relationship, and it’s not anything either wants, it’s just easier to literally die at that point. As for money and divorce, why it’s been said a lot, I’ve worked as a family law attorney for a few years, and had many friend and family divorce. It’s pretty much always been either someone is fucking someone lose, or they want to fuck someone else. Now, we don’t put that in the fil…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 08:59 PM
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Eh, it’s like oil in the car. A lot more going on in that car, but it’s a useless hunk of metal if it doesn’t have oil. Most of the other features could be taken away and it still works, but it needs thst
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 07:07 PM
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The funny thing, it’s more accurate than what they mean when they say it. They are attracted because something the guy is doing is giving them tingles, a biological reaction. Chemistry isn’t the worst term for it in a more literal sense. Of course, what gives the tingles is primarily ‘good’ genetics, mostly from looks, and occasionally from behavior
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 07:05 PM
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Exactly. I’ve spoken and read to a lot of divorced women, and it’s usually disgusting how selfish they are. Literally celebrating leaving a husband whose done nothing wrong because she’s ‘grown’ and he no longer the best for her. Which is just bull, but women seem to have no idea why they do things, as they don’t understand their biology at sll
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 06:58 PM
5

DeadBedrooms is just another Pill thing, where it’s not women technical behavior that’s the issue, it’s the lack of honesty. Like, all those men in a DeadBedrooms? If their wife had gone ‘oh, by the way, after the wedding, I’m going to start phasing sex out’ no one would care, as we’d just call them idiots for agreeing
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 06:56 PM
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Probably not, women do not hang onto virginity these days, if you’re dating women you can legally have sex with they are overwhelmingly not a virgin. Even chads last college don’t get virgins. It because they can’t, but because they don’t exist in any decent number
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 06:54 PM
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And Chads, if they want to keep a woman for years, has to basically be a beta, and has the same beta no guarantee she won’t get bored and cheat anyway
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 06:53 PM
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Nope, money gets you women in their 30s who weren’t able to get an attractive guy in their 20s and wouldn’t have dated you 10 years ago. So…yeah, it’s better, but it’s not what you want
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 05:36 PM
4

This. Evolution is eugenics. Is literally the most natural thing ever
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 04:59 PM
1

I don’t think that’s it, I think it’s more monogamous but do what’s best for self. Biology drives most of this, and biology ain’t cool with you taking care of another man’s kids. So, yeah, I would say we’re biological driven to literally cheat the monogamous system
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 04:57 PM
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Sex is necessary for a relationship. The relationship can’t be just sex. But it cannot be a romantic relationship without sex
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 04:09 PM
19

Go read that place, it’s full of horrid women telling men they should beta and cuck for their wives
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 04:09 PM
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This. Chad doesn’t have a special power to overcome a woman’s natural desire to be a hoe. He can just find another woman easy once she does her hoe things
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:17 PM
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I have some Chad friends, and she. They actually get into a relationship, it eventually gets to a similar point as a beta. Not quite as bad, but it only helps a bit, doesn’t prevent women’s natural habits. What does that mean? They still get cheated on, they still get pushed to be buxx, etc
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:16 PM
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Drug dealers, musicians, certain bartenders, etc, are the most anti-black pill things I see. Generally normal looking guys who do certain things that give women tingles get laid outside their looks range
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:13 PM
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Coming back on the market at 36 after nine years, this looks accurate. And yeah, I need to accept this rather than act like I’m 26 trying to find a wife again, because that certainly doesn’t get easier in your 30s
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:05 PM
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Yup, men, at best, have the same size window as women, they just start about 7 years later.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:03 PM
2

Not a ton, really. Or at least not ‘you’ll find someone better’ blue pill stuff my friends like to say. If I decide I want to settle rather than be alone? We’ll see, not close to that yet. But I’ve not even been dating a year, and I’ve only been out with 5 women, and I’ve also only been using OLD with the exception of going out with the only single women in our social circle. (Which is another story). So while times a factor, I still Have some time
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 01:58 PM
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Did the marry ‘young’ and got hit by that already. Really not keen for signing up for round. 2 at 36. At least it shouldn’t be an issue if the dates I’ve been on are how it’s going to be
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 09:25 AM
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Generally it’s expecting more and offering less. With my ex wife, I didn’t get a whiff of entitlement until almost a year into our marriage. I’m getting that from first dates. It’s pretty crazy. Also, obviously just not as attractive as well, but that’s not really a choice so not holding that against them. Edit. If I had to ask why they act that way, it obviously didn’t go right with other men. Women don’t stay single like men do, so if she’s single on her 30s, she’s been through some relationsh…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 09:20 AM
2

I used to play Magic. There were some tall, super fat, ugly autistic men
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 05:36 AM
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I mean, yeah, that’s exactly what it is. It’s something, which is more than the nothing many men have in the 20s. Many men have to make the choice between solitude for life or being settled for by an aging hoe. But, if you want personal experience, im coming out of a 9 year marriage at 36, last dated at 26. I’ve gotten more dates now than I did 10 years ago, but the women are way worse. In my 20s, if I actually went on a date with a woman, it turned into a relationship because they weren’t awful…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 05:34 AM
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Tingles. Driven by the tingles
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:08 AM
4

It’s always a favorite to see a stat they don’t like, and make up reasons it’s not true, then give the made up reasons more weight than the study itself
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 11:47 PM
8

Online dating used to be strictly the domain of losers as well
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 11:44 PM
7

Also just awful people
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 11:43 PM
2

It’s like school, where you need 70+ to ‘pass’
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 11:43 PM
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I have a now 32 year old Chad friend, college girls literally called him old at a rave, but he’s got a 24 year old in his rotation the last few months. So, 10 years seems to be his limit
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 11:36 PM
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The one talking about woman liking men who end up hurting them? I guess they don’t love them as much as the women who fuck them
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 07:49 PM
2

Yeah, got some whackos here
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 06:17 PM
1

You show your unhinged self when you go with comments line this. You have to at least pretend to not be crazy
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 05:44 PM
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Yup, it’s only about non-women to the extent of letting you know you don’t have a chance of Chad treatment, so either be content being a BB or ignore women and focus on everything else in life
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 05:41 PM
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It’s a weird cope, these blue pillars don’t think foreign women are really human. When I mention my story with my ex wife, part of that tale is she is a Korean native. And rather than attribute any of the things she did to women behavior, they like to jump to ‘she was just using you for a green card or something’ and when I tell them she was a citizen before we ever met they just say some cope and wander away.
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 03:35 PM
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Coming out of a 9 year marriage at 35…mid 30s women have been leagues worse to be around than mid 20s. Granted, there is a filtering effect, because the good mid 30s are likely married, while a large % of the mid 20s are single, so higher chance to sit down with a good lady
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 12:56 PM
1

Ethically, yeah, but good luck legally, haha
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 12:53 PM
1

But how else will those women get money for college? Getting laid off sucks, you shouldn’t wish that on them
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 12:51 PM
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Haha, man, you shouldn’t announce it, it’s the opposite of a flex. Go respond to the person who posted you in an obvious lie
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 12:48 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/05/women-lie-untruths-human Just googled first hit. But yeah, testing for lying via a survey seems to have some inherent difficulty
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 12:45 PM
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So, you fuck hit women in your 20s, lavish them with gifts and trips, then marry a homely girl on her late 30s, make her pay all the bills, and not have sex with her? That’s cold man
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 05:12 AM
2

Huh, does there need to be a what? The statement kinda speaks for itself
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 03:11 AM
2

See the translation
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 12:07 AM
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I was married to a Korean women, so might have some influence on the crowd, but I met a number of ‘Koreaboos’ who were obsessed with the those boy bands. They all talked of going to Korea someday to find a man
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 09:25 PM
1

Cope. It gives hope.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 08:27 PM
1

That’s kinda the point? It’s just the not being honest about it
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 08:19 PM
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Women wouldn’t do it so often if it was ‘bad’ and ‘dangerous’. But women know in their genes being a whore is bad, and it takes a lot for them to get past that, so you get crap like this
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 08:06 PM
2

Well…honestly is nice
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 07:54 PM
2

This is the answer
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 07:09 PM
2

I’ve definitely been on a date recently who wanted revenge on men for what Chad did to her, haha.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 06:54 PM
1

Definitely, totally ended up simping and ended ruinous for me
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 06:53 PM
1

Can’t let perfection be the enemy of good. Maybe simping can’t go away, but if knowledge can decrease it, that’s a plus for the world
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 06:38 PM
1

Maybe that made it worse? The mask comes off and he’s just…normal
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 06:36 PM
2

Shows where the money is
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 06:35 PM
1

No? And I thought I was agreeing with you, haha
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 06:33 PM
2

I mean, I think it’s a lot of sex, but it’s feasible, not entirely a meme exaggeration
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 06:16 PM
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And give it some time. You know that meme of broken women leaving you broken? It’s for stuff like this. Eventually she’ll realize she can do way better and out the door she goes
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 06:13 PM
2

That’s uh, the point? That they face the same outcome?
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 06:09 PM
2

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/cultural-animal/202201/how-sexual-desire-changes-after-marriage
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 05:18 PM
4

That’s some Eddie Murphy meme right there
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 05:07 PM
3

Only one of my Chad friends has money, so it’s definitely not a requirement, but of course it does help
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 04:53 PM
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Studies haven’t shown good looks as having any effect to stop the almost universal decline in wives sexual interest in their husbands. And my Chad friends, who each have sex with more women than the rest of us combined, don’t fare appreciably different after years with a woman. So, matches studies and my own personal experience
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 04:52 PM
2

I guess, but isn’t wanting to duck bad boys as kids then marry the guys they ignored sorta the entire issue?
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 04:50 PM
1

And he is an amazing dad and their two kids are super happy. So that was a big reason as well. I don’t think she realizes how easy she could get laid though, she seemed to think as a chubby single mom her love life would be over, but I always tell her she could still get plenty of D if she wanted
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 04:44 PM
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Dunno, I prefer a bush so long as she has good hair. Which typically means Asian and some white ethnicities. Unless we mean hair elsewhere other than the head, in which case, yeah, no
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 04:41 PM
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For 3rd parties on the audience. Think about a political debate. Is one candidate supposed to go ‘oh wow, never thought of it that way, I guess you economic policy is better!’
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 04:40 PM
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Funny thing? Even if they get Chad to commit, they start losing attraction to him as well
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 04:39 PM
3

This place does occasionally just have some hot crazy posted, haha
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 04:20 PM
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Pretty sure studies have shown this was bunk, and surprise, horny teen girls are the highest and it goes down from there. It’s really a relic from when women were encouraged to get married and not be hoes, to celebrate leaving men who didn’t do anything and go get all that cock they missed out on
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 04:18 PM
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Yes, if they actually believed things rather than just what their media environment is, they could see that hating unseen inequalities and blaming them for issues, yet blaming victims of seen inequalities doesn’t make sense
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 04:12 PM
1

One of my Chad friends (I know 4) is married, and he has cheated on his wife. (She actually cheated on him first but he decided to stay with her because her dad is rich). She’s stayed with him because (I talked to both of them sorting mediating it) he’s good looking, they have kids, they seem a great couple from the outside, he had a good job, and does almost all the housework. Also, she’s gotten chubby in her mid 30s after 2 kids, whereas he has gotten his workout routine down to a science and …
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:58 PM
4

True. I bet they get some creepy shit, but it’s not really the issue either sex had with it
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:50 PM
1

Yeah? That time with my ex I was working full time as an attorney. Sex is great. Why would I not make time for it? If people can watch TV or okay Vidya every day, they could have time for sex every day Edit: plus those lazy weekends when you stay in bed having sex all weekend can really boost the numbers
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:35 PM
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And they’re probably still having sex regularly, as ‘single’ for women does not mean the same as ‘single’ for men
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:33 PM
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This is the only thing they makes sense when I see cute women say ‘men do this’ or they ‘can’t find a man’. It’s like non chads aren’t even ‘men’ to them but drones
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:29 PM
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My reels is full of ‘terminally single women’ who are all perfectly good looking, so I can only assume the just want the best and ignore the rest
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:28 PM
2

Internet sure is a different place these days, haha
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:15 PM
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So, every day from age 18 on? Seems possible to me. Likely? No, but I wouldn’t act like it’s impossible. Would probably have to monkey branch though, I don’t know many women who want to keep having lots of sex with the same guy every day for 12 years
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:14 PM
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Oh, I agree. I’m astounded how many are swallowing it though. Like trans, 20 years ago this would have been unthinkable
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:08 PM
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Same here, rule 1. Not sure, deleted my comment. Based on co text, someone was upset that men didn’t want to date sluts and said those women deserved better anyways, and I agreed, and said in turn those women didn’t deserve good men
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:07 PM
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Yup, a side effect of society discouraging hypergamy is a massive increase in Dead Bedrooms
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 02:36 PM
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Haha, and right when you say that I get a warning.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 02:28 PM
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I guess, but it’s been around a long time, so long it’s basically become it.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 02:27 PM
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And I honestly think women’s troubles with accountability stem from evolution basically wiring their brains to not hate themselves having to bear and raise the children of men who raped them and murdered their children and male relatives
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 02:12 PM
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Massive piece of shot and a mean streak aren’t really issues unless you’re ugly and having to pursue err….alternative mating strategies
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 02:09 PM
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Yup, even Chads don’t keep women loyal, Chads can just go find another woman easy
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 02:06 PM
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Women love the image in their mind. And yes, power, even perceived, gets them wet. It’s why guys have lied about their job, money, and accomplishments forever, because they know it helps that mental image women have of them. Of course, you have to have some base level of material to work with, and it needs to generally be at least above average. Also, Chads don’t have a great ability to keep a girl, anymore than a beta. Women are just biologically driven to be hoes. Chads power is he can keep ge…
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 02:05 PM
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Massive. Hopefully he doesn’t want to get married, as it’s a high chance of being disastrous, and if he wants to marry another woman, less woman available who are ‘marriage material’ the longer you wait
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 02:02 PM
1

As a real estate attorney, I hate real estate agents with a passion. A total parasite on the system, that takes money from the average American only asset of any worth, and at best, does nothing, and often, makes it worse
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 01:59 PM
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Yup, and the longer it goes on, the harder it is to break. My friend who is perfectly fuckable would have women flirting with him at parties and he’d just basically run away as he was afraid of revealing he was a virgin
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 01:57 PM
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Oh, I think some women want bad boys, but they’re not able to think rationally enough to connect it to potential beatings. Men do dumb stuff too when thinking with their dicks
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 01:55 PM
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I think fatties have less orbiters, but I guess I did have a fat co worker orbit me and try to make a move when my marriage had a rough spot
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 01:54 PM
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True, great example of cope for women. ‘Oh, I don’t dress like a slut for men’s attention, I do it for myself’ But this whole pill thing is because women have serious trouble with accountability
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 01:51 PM
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You joke, but it’s increasing pushed and more men are taking that solution. It didn’t become some porn category out of no where. Imagine in the 90s telling people that would be a top porn category
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 01:46 PM
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I’ve always noticed the mainstream side is ‘cultish’ while places like this are more just angry people on the same side yelling at each other. So, basically a lot more individualistic, so also far less effective
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 01:46 PM
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It’s just been so ingrained in our society. Even in marriage, it’s ‘wife’s behavior isn’t good for marriage? Solution? Your husband needs to do more!’ It’s never ‘what is good for men, or even what is best for women, it’s ‘men, just keep doing more for women even though it’s not helping, and we’ll blame you still’ So yeah, eventually guys will realize that for most of us, trying hard is the same outcome as not trying at all, and many men will simply stop trying. The entire point of the black pil…
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 01:44 PM
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I don’t know if I’d say most like it, but I’ve seen more women put up with it than zero, which is what it should be.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 01:40 PM
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It’s funny how folks pretend beta orbiters isn’t a real thing, when for many non chads it’s their primary mating strategy
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 01:33 PM
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Definitely not, it’s been part of stand up for decades, and stuff that makes it there is low tier we all experience it, so let’s laugh at it
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 01:31 PM
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Definitely. I started going out with my Korean Ex wife back in 2013. She was almost embarrassed by her Korean culture then. Flash forward 9 years to 2022 and now it’s the coolest thing ever
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 01:30 PM
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Hmm, I was having sex 12-15x a week with my ex the first 3 years or so, so I could see 5000x being a realistic number by 30.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 09:24 AM
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An example, my Chad friend, now married, used to bartend. He moved around multiple bars in his time, because he’s honestly an awful employee. He’d sleep with almost every woman at each bar. And from other friends, at least in that industry, it’s common. I’ve other stories from different areas, but yeah, any one of the 4 Chads in our social circle has slept with more women than the non chads combined
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 09:22 AM
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The first few lines is how it goes for my one single woman friend. Not sure if she rents online about men, but she does to us.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 09:18 AM
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This. Most men aren’t Chad. And while sometimes an individual woman will see you as Chad, that’s not long lasting. Eventually it’ll turn into this.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 09:15 AM
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Haha, if hookers don’t count, almost none of the guys in my social circle have cheated on their wives.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 04:15 AM
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That’s really a big reason this topic generates so much anger, it’s basically MGTOW all over again. Basically, most men should give up on women and focus only on themselves. That’s not something anyone other than those men want
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 04:14 AM
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Hoes hate men they don’t want to sleep with calling them hoes. Like, it sets them off like nothing else. The rest is just ducks and losers simping in hopes of pity pussy from said hoes
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 04:11 AM
1

Well, this kind of kid never got into sports and spent his days on the internet playing Fortnite or whatever
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:42 AM
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Probably, if they’re from out of town and looking to hook up. If they’re local? Maybe not
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 03:41 AM
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Honestly, that’s a good thing. The betas might not know it, but it’s better to stay single than get divorce raped, they’re just too thirsty and risk it
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 12:58 AM
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What’s funny is that the military proves they even Chad can’t keep women loyal, he can just find new pussy easy
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 12:57 AM
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Chads are weird because those massive number of reels of young women complaining about how men act and treat them? They’re complaining entirely about what Chads do them. But…they still keep fucking them, and the rest of the men are used as figurative whipping boys for Chads actions.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 12:55 AM
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Definitely, it’s Reddit, gotta take everything with a grain of salt
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 10:36 PM
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Studies generally on BP side. Wives were shown to almost always lose attraction to their husbands, regardless of what their husbands do. Which tracks with so much women’s nature and the woes men have
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 09:37 PM
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Haha, I was about to say, this is the ‘would you love me if I was a worm’ thing. Which is a really thing somehow
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 09:34 PM
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I’ve seen a few. Mostly reeeeaaaaallly into geek stuff, low self confidence, completely avoid women, then after college are super self conscious about being virgins and actively avoid sex, even when women are basically throwing themselves at them if they would just take a shot. The only reason they lose it is one girl basically gets super aggressive and he just goes along with it. And he’ll likely get super attached then broken when she leaves
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 09:33 PM
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Studies all back this up. And when they attack those studies, there is literally zero evidence showing the opposite.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 09:29 PM
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I dunno, I’ve had both, and I prefer Asian.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 09:29 PM
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Men have done far worse, haha. At least you get into good shape
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 09:28 PM
1

Yeah, try and chat some people up, a lot of runners treat these as party weekends where they go crazy the night after
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 09:22 PM
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Marathons and things like that are decent way to meet women too.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 08:58 PM
3

Hmm, if you don’t think beauty or autism don’t have a massive impact on sexual attractiveness, I don’t think we’re on the same page
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 07:06 PM
2

Exactly, and that’s what ugly autistic men need to understand
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 07:01 PM
3

Hmm, on the one hand, my ex wife offered to split on first date, but said later if I had accepted that was it; basically the exact same shit test being advocated here, just from the other side. But I scoffed, paid, and got laid, got married and had a good relationship for a long time. On the other hand, had a horrible divorce 9 years down the road, maybe there’s some merit? I think it’s a bit too far separated to be a worthwhile measure, and probably just would have missed out on a great relatio…
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 07:01 PM
2

Exactly. And a dirty secret? If Chad wants to stay with one woman, he starts turning into a beta for her as the years roll by
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:57 PM
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That’s the point? A fish can’t really fly, he should probably focus on swimming
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:52 PM
3

And heck, my Korean ex wife was whiter than me.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:51 PM
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I think it’s more a lack of judgment on both the chads and women. If you mean the non chads, yeah, they’re jealous and like to pretend they wouldn’t do the exact same thing if they were Chads
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:50 PM
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Never underestimate men’s thirst. Even Chads, getting laid all the time, are thirsty asf
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:42 PM
1

Yup, women don’t mind fucking the same man, and men, including those men, don’t mind fucking almost any pussy that offers itself
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:10 PM
4

It’s like when your parents after you don’t get job out of college go ‘just go walk into some place and introduce yourself and ask for a job with a firm handshake’ Well, it’s actually worse, because at least for the job thing you probably picked a bad major or something. But the point is, it’s someone giving absolutely worthless advice, then acting smug as if it’s great and it’s your own fault
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:08 PM
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Especially with some height on you
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:04 PM
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I’m sure she would if he as a 6 ft talk Asian with a big dick and pay check
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:04 PM
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Also, when a man is blaming being single, he’s not having sex, when a women is complaining of being single, she’s often still having sex
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:03 PM
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I think that’s the point of the topic? The whole ‘pill’ thing is women either being dishonest or honestly not understanding themselves
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:00 PM
0

Yup, mbti is modern day astrology, women love it
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:00 PM
3

Indeed, I have one non married Chad friend left, and while he is still able to ‘slay pussy’ even he struggles trying to stay with one woman and her be loyal
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 03:51 PM
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I think you hit on it with genuine desire. I have some very unfortunate friends who were virgins until their 30s and now are in betabux situations. Most people here reject that as an option, but it at least an option, so it’s not that it’s literally impossible to have sexual with a woman or a relationship, it’s that the terms are perceived as so unfair it’s not acceptable
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 03:50 PM
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I agree with the latter, and partially with the former. One thing I’ve seen is that even Chad over the years starts to end up a similar place as the betas, so eventually she’ll get tired of spending her money and revert to ‘your money our money and my money is my money’
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 02:49 PM
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Definitely l, it seems women are just realizing now ‘hey, I don’t have to get married, have a family and kids! I can just have fun!’ Which was always an option that men weren’t really frowned on for taking, but women were heavily discouraged from pursuing
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 02:47 PM
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Hmm, I guess can be a non-incel and still annoyed at the state of affairs and recognize the unfairness of it. I’m not an incel (or a Chad) but I still find the discussion here more accurate and relevant than other takes on the topic
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 02:45 PM
1

I was married to a Korean woman, and the media’s incessant anti white attack’s definitely has impacted how folks see white men for dating
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 02:33 PM
1

No? They date what gives them tingles
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 02:31 PM
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I’ve definitely seen it from my one Chad friend left in the wild that even he can’t stop a GF from sleeping around after a few months
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 02:29 PM
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Exactly, any time I hear the single women in my life complain about not being able to find a man, it’s that. They can’t find a Chad who is both willing to commit, and is worth committing too. They either get pumped and dumped by the ‘good’ Chads, or stay fwb with the broke Chads while still hunting for Mr. Right
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 02:24 PM
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This better describes the few single woman in my social circle. Crazy to find a husband like everyone else, but exclusively wants to fuck Chads who are either losers and can’t be a husband, or pump and dump them. But they just don’t why they can’t find a good guy. When women say that, they mean why can’t I find a guy top 20% in looks whose also willing to commit and and also a good provider
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 02:21 PM
1

I mean, the woman’s genes don’t matter for this.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 01:47 PM
1

They live in the same reality; it’s just their way of coping. Some cope by thinking if they can someday do it just right, it’ll work. Others cope by thinking it will never work.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 01:46 PM
1

The difference between a Stacey and…Becky? Is much much smaller than Chad and Beta
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 01:40 PM
1

Kinda sounds like a cope
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 01:40 PM
1

All true, but virgin is by far the most important. Nothing comes even close to impact on divorce rates as virginity. Religion/ politics do help, but the boosts aren’t even combined 10% of no prior sexual partners
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 12:39 PM
1

You do realize even the feminists themselves break it off into ‘waves’ that have very different goals? It’s literally essentially a different movement from what you’re talking about
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 12:36 PM
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You think folks here are women? I mean…I was just going with ugly, but if you want to volunteer dumb, well…I guess that would prove you’re dumb, and this make sense. Good on you for staying true to you
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 04:54 AM
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They can, commission based jobs are great if you’re a top performer. But really, if the complaints are now we can’t work sales, I think we’ve landed in a good place
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 02:32 AM
3

I hear ya. I tried and failed and don’t see myself getting back on the train. Just gotta make do with what we can
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 02:26 AM
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Just don’t take to long to wife up, the non Hoes go fast
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 01:38 AM
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The women I talk with all say you’re awful for judging a whore….while lying to ensure everyone around them they are not whores. But if you drink with them, yeah, they’re whores and proud of it
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 11:43 PM
1

It does help, but I would not call those sought after jobs
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 11:33 PM
1

Yup, this is the issue. Women have a lower barrier to entry and into relationships, so if one is single in her 30s, tends to be for a reason. So hey, date young women where the good ones aren’t settled. But if they didn’t want you 10 years ago, they don’t want old you now, even if you make 3x what you used too.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 09:58 PM
2

From multiple women he’s slept with. I guess they could just be all scorned women meme
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 09:27 PM
1

Actor I guess? Dunno, I’m in Legal, we can be a fugly bunch
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 09:26 PM
1

Got and had friend with a very average penis apparently who slays just fine
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 09:24 PM
2

Only if you’re not a Chad. You have no Halo, so everything stands out
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 09:24 PM
1

Definitely a Cope
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 09:23 PM
5

Does seem a common attitude for the tellers. I’ve had bankers I think flirt with me, but they probably just wanted to get business or something
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 09:22 PM
12

I mean, I’d say don’t have a whore for a GF, but I guess that does limit the dating pool
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 09:19 PM
1

Oh, I didn’t mean city/rural, just literally move anywhere people don’t know you and start over
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 08:54 PM
1

I believe it. Every single woman I’ve known as lied about her sexual past. Either later on she lists slips, or her friends or something else contradicts it
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 08:14 PM
1

Arranged marriage I guess technically solves the blackpill to a degree, but has other serious ethical concerns
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 08:11 PM
5

What constitutes surmountable?
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 06:50 PM
2

I think you answered the question, get a job out of town, move there, and make new friends now that you’re ‘fixed’
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 06:23 PM
5

Ugh, that is disgusting.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 05:49 PM
6

I’ve been on the internet since the late 90s, and I don’t think I would say ‘normal’ guys lived on her. It was always a joke the virgins were on the internet, an no girls used it. Hence the G.I.R.L. Meme
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 05:48 PM
10

Haha, I guess so. Certainly below their weight class, at least
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 05:47 PM
16

Punching down, I believe it’s called
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 05:36 PM
7

Always kinda has been, really
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 05:36 PM
7

That’s kinda the point. If they can accept they can never win, they can stop trying to play the game
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 05:35 PM
4

More it’s being short, ugly, and autistic.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 05:33 PM
13

I imagine all the women posting here, that’s what they are
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 05:32 PM
3

It really isn’t. This thread is literally the source. I thought you just replied without reading it, and that was a prompt for you to do so. So, read the thread or keep being a bitch. Or shut up and be a bitch. I think you’re stuck with that either way
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 04:52 PM
1

Yup, I know plenty of women who had ‘hoe phases’ in HS and College doing fine now.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 04:37 PM
3

I mean, if you literally can’t even read the thread you’re posting in, you clearly don’t care and just want to bitch. So have at it
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 04:36 PM
2

I remember a woman getting very upset with me when she was showing me pictures a ‘photographer’ took and I asked if she slept with him
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 04:21 PM
3

It’s what I’ve found. There are more options for me, but all the good options are married. And while good men can slip through the cracks, ie the entire point of this sub, it’s much rarer for a good woman to slip through. So the options left tend to have serious issues, so you’re going to have a worse partner than if you had met them 10 years ago. The kicker is for many men, 10 years ago they had no chance with those same women
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 04:19 PM
2

Agree with a lot of this a 36 year old. Especially the early 20s woman having what I guess is now called a Situationship with a ‘photographer’ who takes pics of them and gives them weed.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 04:15 PM
3

36 now, last year came out of a 9 years with my ex wife. Haven’t done a lot of dating, but I’ve gotten dates way easier at 36 than I did at 26. And much more attention in general. However, the woman haven’t been as great as when I was 26. When I was younger, while it was hard to find a woman who wanted to date me, it had pretty much a 100% conversion into a relationship. These days, I’ve only had one date go past the first, and that one I had to call off after the 3rd date as she just wasn’t see…
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 03:55 PM
4

That was an old study, before Trans was a thing. It’s probably different now
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:55 PM
4

To be fair, loneliness isn’t exact uncommon for this crew
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:44 PM
2

Go read the post, I’m sure you’ll find it
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:34 PM
2

Well, the term comes from a mating strategy in nature
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:06 PM
3

This explains a lot of women’s views on men. Whenever they complain about men, it’s often complaining about Chad. The other men don’t even register as ‘men’ really to them
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:05 PM
3

I think there is one in this post towards the bottom?
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:03 PM
4

I have a friend who calls the Chad who used her bad in bed….but didn’t stop her from riding him for 2 months, so might be a cope
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:03 PM
2

Hard to say, but at least a significant minority would be, same as men
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:01 PM
5

Definitely does. But I just wanted to put out it’s not like it’s only an issue at the start; it’s also an issue in a relationship.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:01 PM
1

Why? Those attractive women feel like competition to their biology, with the goal being those attractive men. Makes total sense
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:00 PM
6

It’s a sixth sense to find good genetics, I guess?
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 01:53 PM
12

Intelligence is not attractive. Especially in the long term. It can be cool on a date, but living with someone that much smarter than you? It’s awful
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 01:42 PM
1

I can only speak from personal experience, but the most misogynistic men in our social circle are the Chads. They also have more sex than everyone else combined. That said, they’re not bad guys really, they just don’t respect women they sleep with at all
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 01:41 PM
8

The most misogynistic men I know are the Chads in my social group. Anyone one of them has slept with more women than the rest of the non chads combined
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 01:40 PM
3

Not sure if it’s the same study, but there is one where daughters picked out giysntheyd prefer, and mothers looked at same guys and picked which they’d prefer for their daughters. Intangibles like personality did matter….if the guy was sufficiently attractive. They’d both take the good looking bad guy I’ve the ugly good guy. However, the average guy with a good personality they said they’d take over the bad guy
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 01:31 PM
5

I’ve seen 600 lb life. Those folks ain’t single
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 05:12 AM
2

Damn, I’m old. Folks my age didn’t have an internet to dream of. We were damned before we started
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 03:53 AM
3

Folks be extreme here. We’ll all be fine. Sure, will others get better lives for less effort? Yup. But that’s always been life. It’s why folks whine about the rich so much
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:10 AM
4

I’ve a friend who was pumped and dumped by a Chad in our social circle. It’s been almost a year and she still shit talks him over anything she can grasp
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:05 AM
5

No. In fact, none of this real. Everyone here? All AIs. The really kicker? So are you
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:04 AM
3

I don’t think they need to be. It’s not a difficult concept or worthy of a ton of introspection. Folks just don’t like the taste of it
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 01:39 AM
4

You’re right, wigs were all the rage back then
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 01:38 AM
1

I did family law for a few years. I certainly helped do that sometimes. The reasons were most often the wife was bored, at best.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 01:36 AM
11

The autism is a killer though. It’s bad enough interacting at an extreme length here in reddit
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 01:25 AM
6

He wasn’t bald, at least
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 01:24 AM
6

You can literally do anything except women. And even the , you can pay for it. It’s more than probably most of the world’s population has
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 01:24 AM
1

America. And in a ‘decent’ state for it actually, where adultery bars alimony, which is the minority of states
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 01:21 AM
1

First, explain your idiot response jumping to ‘lol old no divorce evar?!’ Because it’s really dumb. I mean, it’s super common on Reddit, but this place is full of idiots
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 01:20 AM
5

Yeah, 3 weeks later she would go get railed by a Chad for 2 months we warned her about, then whine about it to this day. I’m not sure she wanted free food, but she definitely was husband crazy and maybe wanted to keep me around for some reason, as i definitely fit that bill. And looking back I wish I was more direct and left the 2nd date when I could see how it was going. Instead i went on a 3rd and gave some excuse about ‘not being ready to date’ so soon after my divorce
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 12:02 AM
1

Are you trying to be dense? Because that is a really thought processZ But hey, the divorce rate for some with 5 or more partners is 7x that of a virgin. No other factor comes close
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 12:00 AM
2

On the plus side, to much IQ ain’t good for your love life either
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 10:37 PM
7

Yup. I haven’t date much since my divorce, but one woman went on 2 dates, she had zero desire for anything physical. I wrote it off, but she asked me out for another date, and I agreed. Mistake, was more of the same. Gave an excuse when wanted a 4th date
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 10:34 PM
8

The ‘chemistry’ is literally what the black pill is about. They agree, but they don’t want to acknowledge it
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 10:30 PM
2

Agreed, but if you’d like to avoid knowing hiw divorce rape feels, virginity is overwhelmingly the best indicator
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 09:08 PM
5

My friend group isn’t unattractive, but even in our 20s, casual sex wasn’t like an every month thing, maybe a few times a year, if that. Granted, we weren’t into the rave scene or anything extreme, but we went to plenty of parties every month where a bunch of women would be as well. Met my ex wife at one. But it was definitely an event if one us got casual sex, rather than a relationship Except for the Chads, who were weekly.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 09:07 PM
2

Studies. Also personal experience, but that’s not what I’m referring too
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 08:24 PM
1

Well, lowest divorce rates and highest levels of marital satisfaction?
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:59 PM
10

Describes the wives of my friends. Mid 30s now, all been with husbands since mid 20s, and they have a girls night to watch Bachelor every week, 6 in total. Well, one of the six is always ‘single’ and bemoans she can’t find a good guy, while she shows her latest guy to the group and they all say ‘no, that guys a dud’ I’ve learned a lot since being adopted into the girls group after my divorce. Apparently my commentary on the trash TV is top notch
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:50 PM
1

Halo effect, I think it’s called?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:46 PM
3

I have primarily Indian clients as a Real Estate attorney, probably see 3 or so married couples a day. Very ugly men. I think they ‘fixed’ the black pill with arranged marriage or something
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:44 PM
0

I didn’t know there was another meaning. I’d go with the latter, as I’m sure the former is just a sub set
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:39 PM
2

For them, I guess. I really don’t think it sinks in until senior years
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:38 PM
4

I’ve found similar. Recently divorced at 36, and if I want to get a date, it’s not been that hard to find a date with a mid 30s woman. I’ve not wanted to go on a 2nd date so I’ve not been doing a great job vetting I guess. Ten years ago, I went almost two years between relationships before going out with my ex wife. Getting a date at all was a big deal.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:38 PM
10

I’ve not noticed a Wall effect at 35 if she’s taken care of herself
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:33 PM
13

It’s ‘all’ in the name here?
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:33 PM
1

This is true. Just had a conversation with my friends, a married couple, this weekend. She honestly didn’t know it was hard for men to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:31 PM
2

Most people here seem to support lying to a partner. It’s probably inconsistent with other opinions they express on relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:27 PM
1

Yup, if a a double standard, where generally a positive for one gender is generally a massive negative for another
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:26 PM
2

It’s disingenuous to compare literal relevant information to the act at hand with potential hypotheticals they are extremely unlikely, use the latter to discredit the former, and act self righteous
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:24 PM
1

And I’d honestly say most of those terrorists are Incels too. There a reason the promise of sex in the after life is so appealing, because they can’t get it here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:16 PM
3

Is there a reason the two left over groups don’t hook up?
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:09 PM
2

This. Race means more likely to have some features unattractive. Chad’s will still be fine, just less % of the race will win that lottery
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:09 PM
6

And, word for word, I’ve had gen z women say ‘and he’s a total douchebag, but that’s my type’ So, definitely has some different connotations
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:02 PM
1

And even then, they usually can only supress it for so long
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 04:21 PM
13

I guess? I see some grungy looking dudes be a ‘musician’ and get women
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 04:10 PM
1

Tell the Chads that
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 04:00 PM
2

And I really don’t think women realize this. They seem to unconsciously file unattractive men into some 3rd gender, so to them, Chads are the only actual men out there
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 02:32 PM
1

Gay men in generally do better on stats. You’ll also need to see how lesbians treat their partners to see where the issues lie
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 01:45 PM
3

And honestly, men sleeping with crazy women is a meme. It won’t turn them away
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 01:44 PM
6

It’s because a woman’s ‘single’ is not the same as a man’s ‘single’ so it’s easier for them. And a mans virginity on the same lens is t viewed the same as a woman’s virginity
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 01:43 PM
2

Definitely. Post divorce the time alone is the worst. Thank god for that 8-6 block for work, then chores and working out, means only have to take something to fall asleep to avoid thinking
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 01:40 PM
1

Dunno, divorce came 9 years later out of no where, so hard to draw a connection. 9 years were good together too, so probably not. Now if Should have just played around with her for 3 years then refused to marry her? I guess they would be the most selfish upside action
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:38 PM
1

Maybe, but we have plenty of men who have a ‘if she won’t sleep with you in X dates, move on’ mentality. I don’t disagree with either
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:32 PM
1

Ah, definitely not from my first two GFs then. I guess from my 3rd? We basically were just students who hung around, had sex, and watched TV together for 3 semesters. Definitely for my ex wife, but after marriage that appreciation quickly morphed into entitlement
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 01:32 PM
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The usual answer is they can’t get dates from the guys they want, or if they do, they were pumped and dumped and don’t want to admit it
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 12:15 AM
1

I’ve been asked my my exes by all the women I’ve been with, at least to some degree
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:59 PM
9

Ah, The old Rule 1, Rule 2. Disproves most arguments against this
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 09:48 PM
2

https://ifstudies.org/blog/does-sexual-history-affect-marital-happiness One for general ‘satisfaction’ there more for divorce, but you seem the sort to think divorce is great
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:44 PM
4

The wife? Highest satisfaction in marriage for women comes from being a virgin. Literally nothing else is even close to as big an impact
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:29 PM
3

There are many paths to virgindom. This is but one
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:29 PM
2

Don’t you knock my bird bros, they’re making them staging grounds, puffing them feathers, and dancing like their life depends on it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:20 PM
0

Let the cuck have his fetish
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:56 PM
5

Actually by far the best outcome. Lowest divorce rates, highest marital satisfaction. Literally no other factor even comes close
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:56 PM
2

Sure, but you’ve approached a situation where nothing you do matters. They ‘changed’ because they wanted a new dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:45 PM
3

Depends on what you mean by important. I’m sure plenty of women find fault with being lied too by a man so he can bang her
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:18 PM
1

Men do it all the time
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 07:04 PM
3

I had a Chad friend get asked out by the photographer at the wedding, a bridesmaid at the wedding he went home with, and a random girl at a bar whose number he got with said bridesmaid on his arm. It’s different rules. But even he is saying it’s getting too much effort for him, as he’s having to cycle through women faster than before
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 07:02 PM
4

Oh, I agree. I’m just talking about what is the ‘right’ thing to do. There’s a reason we say nice guys finish last. And I mean an actual nice guy, to the ‘Nice Guy’ meme for trying to orbit in a friendzone, and it applies to much more than just relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:56 PM
2

Quite a bit, it’s probably inform them better than anything. If it ends the date, that explains a lot about you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:54 PM
8

Exactly. They know it matters. That’s why it makes them so unhinged
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:53 PM
5

It really is, unless you think literally no information is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:53 PM
2

And all the women in their life will agree, because they too are women. And all the men in their life will agree, because they want to fuck them
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 06:51 PM
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So, you recognize it’s relevant, but that the people who it’s a negative for will lie. That’s about the level of reasoning I was expecting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:37 PM
13

Yup. One of our friends was a virgin until 32, and while he didn’t advertise it to the social group, and we didn’t grill him on it, it was pretty obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:36 PM
8

Exactly. Yet so many think ‘they have no right to know!’ Which is uh…well, it’s not good
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:34 PM
13

Yeah, your sexual history, contrary to what people think, is incredibly relevant to how successful your next relationship will be. The idea that you should withhold that information as standard practice is incredibly unethical. Which makes sense. Most mating tactics aren’t ethical
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:34 PM
3

Exactly, everyone is married and mostly with kids now. I was married myself until last year. The people they know who aren’t married typically are single for a reason at this age as well. So, where as this exact same group was great for finding a relationship in my 20s, it’s been pretty useless in my 30s. And finding a new social circle isn’t exactly the same
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:31 PM
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They’re being honest with relevant information to a relationship so their potential partners can have informed consent? Such ethics is probably why they are virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:11 PM
0

Gotcha, never actually been over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:03 PM
7

And if you’re the ‘kind of person’ who 20 bucks is giving you moral outrage l, that says a lot about you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:58 PM
3

I’ve not dated much since the divorce, but the only multiple dates I’ve been on I declined a 4th date due to this. It didn’t trigger her, though probably because i phrased it as ‘not ready to date’ rather than ‘you’re not attracted to me and I see where this is going’
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 04:57 PM
4

Pretty much. Not seeing a moral quandary, and if it’s good fit for your situation, have at it. I think said fit and situation are much rarer than most think though
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 04:56 PM
6

Typing isn’t jim indeed
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 04:54 PM
9

If you really think a hamburger is what it’s all about, be my guest. Good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:54 PM
9

If you want to look at it like that, have fun with it. The money didn’t matter; it was like 20 bucks at a burger joint. She just wanted to see if I was someone like you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:49 PM
4

Is it supposed to be accepted? My ex wife offered, but said later if I had accepted there would not have been 2nd date
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:48 PM
5

My ex wife said we wouldn’t have had a 2nd date if I took her up in her offer to split the bill. Instead, I laid and we had sex that night. Granted, she left in a rather horrific manner 9 years later, but I think that’s far enough divested from the first date to say you can definitely miss out on some good stuff with your plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:41 PM
2

Definitely agree, thought I don’t know a way to really tell unless they ask you out. But if a woman does approach you, give her serious consideration
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 04:35 PM
4

You hear, but in my decent experiences with this, it’s how it goes. Woman can’t admit they’re doing something wrong or selfish, so they have to blame the man
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 03:53 PM
4

What confuses men is that she used to be in to them, he’s the exact same guy, but now she no longer is. Woman don’t understand why they do that either
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:39 PM
4

The thing is, if they got that hot celebrity? Statistically, they lose attraction to him too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:39 PM
3

My 9 year relationship with my ex had a 3 year downswing in sex in the middle, 18 months of which was a dead bedroom. We were able to come back to a sex life about halfway to when we got married, but 2 years later she cheated and left. So…I guess maybe you’re right. And the scary part? Studies show most women lose attraction, and nothing their husbands do can significantly influence it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:38 PM
2

I’m not a Chad, but all 4 relationships I’ve had, she was the one who asked me out. I think woman ask out a lot more than folks realize
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:36 PM
1

Ah, yeah, gotcha. ThTs what I dream of being. Have another interview tomorrow at noon, I want out of this real estate rat race
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:34 PM
2

The lies are things like ‘oh, I’m not sleeping with her anymore’ when he’s going to bang her later tonight or ‘yeah, I’m looking to settle down’ type stuff. But still lies. They don’t just go ‘oh yeah, I’m banging my co worker tonight while her boyfriend works late, but I can bang yiu before I go over there, and yeah, we can bang later but don’t expect more than that’ Whereas the lies the average guy tells are probably more about how successful he is
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:09 PM
1

This. A man asks a woman because he’s prefer her not being run through. A woman asks a man because she wants to know some other woman gave him a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:03 PM
6

Ethically, 100% yes. And acting ethically will be to your detriment, whether men or women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:01 PM
2

Definitely, I had to lie starting in college to actually not just have myself disregarded immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:00 PM
9

Even my Chad friends lie and lie and lie to have sex. But part of being Chad is they want to duck him, so the lies can be super wake but it works
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:59 PM
5

I definitely think those jobs artificial keep someone in a juvenile mindset past their college years if they work them in their late 20s, or god forbid, 30s
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 02:58 PM
5

So true. I have CHAD friends, and even they have a harder time getting laid than the average woman in our group.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 02:35 PM
5

Like, one of my best friends is 5’8, probably 7/10 face, and he was able to do okay in life, but hes 36 and met his wife at 22. I doubt if he was 22 today he’d have the same success
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 02:33 PM
3

Sounds like it’s really the autism which has completely damned you. Which…really not a solution to that. It’s a bad hand to be dealt, but you seem to understand you can still succeed at everything else other than woman. And yes, red pill is wrong on most of its crap, I’ve seen first hand the ‘chads’ of my social circle with one exception are some of are less successful members. The successful one himself is an idiot, but his brother owns the law firm and keeps his dumb ass employed with a six fi…
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 02:30 PM
7

While not stated outright, you listing typically ‘no respect’ jobs is also necessary. Like, I’m a real estate attorney, I interact individually with probably a dozen new people every day, and folks aren’t generally rude to me. But people who will treat my paralegal like crap will treat me well, even if I’m literally just repeating what she said.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 02:26 PM
1

Oh, I didn’t mean he was the good guy. I mean she didn’t deserve the good guy who isn’t seething.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:08 PM
1

OLD is awkward like that, back when this was an option, I would normally talk to a woman at a party who we kinda knew each other through social circles, and ask to leave and go get a drink and some food
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 01:56 PM
3

Hopefully Ukraine has better divorce laws than the US
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 01:52 PM
-1

Just difference in how the sexes view sex. Men are able to pump and dump, so they can cheat just fine and come home and act like it never happened. They know it’s wrong, but they’re okay with that as long as no one knows Women struggle with this, and have to villify their current partner as part of cheating, so they don’t feel like a bad person for doing it. It’s why when men cheat, they rarely end the marriage (their wives might leave them though) and when women cheat, they usually leave their …
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 01:51 PM
2

Yeah, but unless the legal definition was changed to be more than the actual sex act, it still wouldn’t be terribly useful in divorce proceedings even if it was back to denying equitable distribution. I did family law for a bit in a state where adultery bars alimony, but it comes up a lot less often than you think as proving something in court wasn’t always the easiest unless they were a really dumb cheater
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 01:47 PM
7

Be interested too. I have a pet theory that whatever evolution did to woman’s brains to make them able to withstand being raped and having the kids of invaders who killed and raped her man and children has some lasting impact on accountability in the modern era
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 01:44 PM
5

I just had a discussion with my friends wife this weekend, and women really have no idea how hard it is for a man to date. Basically, she has a friend dating a loser for over 5 years. Her husband was saying she should move on. She countered that the husband had a friend with a loser woman, but he wasn’t trying to tell him to break up. I had to back him up that it’s different for men, because her friend could go get a new dick by the end of the night, while his friend could take months, if that I…
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 01:40 PM
1

As a lawyer, most of us don’t make that great money. Doctors do though, they just don’t start making anything until they’re 30
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:28 PM
4

This is one of the more accurate takes I’ve read here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:26 PM
1

I’ll just say the ‘dishes’ don’t matter, studies show at best it does nothing, at worst it just makes things work. It’s a common excuse though, as women leave men for new dick, but they will never say that, hence they give all these excuses. And men try to make sure to do what women say, but it actually makes things worse, as that’s not the issue, the issues is, they just want new dick
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:25 PM
3

My main issue is I’ve had clients, friends, or families where the wife had said the husband was controlling and abusive. And I know for a fact he was not. So she’s lying. But I’ve also never seen a wife say she was the problem. I’ve seen plenty of men saying they messed up. So, whenever I see a woman say her husband was controlling or abusive, I don’t believe them at all without proof
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:23 PM
1

Exactly, it’s crazy, and the mere fact this is plausible and frequently enough a practice for folk to seethe over says a lot about the current state of affairs. This isn’t a choice folks with options make
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:34 PM
2

And she doesn’t deserve a good guy on her end. All fair!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:32 PM
2

My experience doing family law for a few years was not one wife ever thought she was at fault, even when she was cheating, lying and stealing money. And society supports that stance
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:31 PM
5

I’ve found social circles are worthless in my 30s, they’re all dried up. I met my wife in my 20s through it, but if you take too long, especially for men, there is not going to be much ‘magic’ left
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:12 PM
2

They really don’t. The old ‘Rule 1, Rule 2’ skit is the most accurate representation of women’s attraction, as it shows the behavior literally doesn’t matter, just looks/status/whatever
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 05:41 AM
6

From my Hs and college GFs, definitely not. From law school…hmm, I guess so? We just hung around her place and sex, but she was 7 years older than me so not sure if still counts. From my ex wife? Definitely for the first 3 years, but about 6 months after marriage that fades rapidly
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 05:39 AM
8

I’ve thought that whatever evolution had to do for women to notnhate themselves for having the children of men who killed their men and children with their men had some long lasting effects on their ability to process accountability
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 02:50 AM
4

Indeed, women are the true victims in war
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 02:48 AM
2

I agree, just like to point out that a woman definition of ‘single’ or ‘alone’ is not a man. I have a friend whose getting sex weekly from Chad still out there complaining how she can’t find a man
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:53 PM
4

With one exception, they all ended pretty bad for me, so maybe for the best
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:51 PM
6

True. The Chads in my life have been cheated on as well if they committed at the same rate as non chads They were just able to get another women easy
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:51 PM
1

I’ve seen the Chads in my group run wild over the poor betas. Women just don’t want them, even face to face
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 10:08 PM
5

Oh, should always prefer younger. More damage, worse they get, and unlike men, who can be perfectly fine people and just didn’t have what it takes to give a woman’s tingles, there are not diamonds in the rough out there
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 10:05 PM
12

This is what is always always left out. The average woman can be single and still have sex. The average man cannot. A average woman being single is nothing like a man being single. But women, since they honestly don’t even see non chads as real people, think ‘men’ is synonymous with ‘chad’
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 10:03 PM
1

They do! But also really high marital satisfaction and marital sex stats, and low divorce and domestic abuse
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 09:43 PM
1

I guess so? If they’re not requiring a relationship out of you, and women are willing to sleep with you, but they’re below your standards, yeah. Now if you’re saying you refuse to beta for someone you feel beneath you, I disagree there. That’s like saying you’re not an incel because you can hire escorts
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 09:37 PM
3

Yup, that’s the part of the ‘pill’ is that all women believe they dry and can get a Chad, no matter their own appearance. So short girls will want the exact same small set of men as y’all girls.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 09:35 PM
2

Have a 5’10 Chad friend, and yeah, he did good for himself. Really cute guy though
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 09:34 PM
16

I’ve been in 4 relationships in my life, each one I was asked out by her. So, yeah, women asking men out has been my reality, and honestly, works out much much better than we I ask out
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 09:32 PM
1

But stats are great for gay men, off the charts
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 09:29 PM
5

I’m general, women leave for another dick
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 08:05 PM
3

Very true. Marrying betas is a big reason for divorce. All those other reasons? It’s just they want another non limp dick
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 08:04 PM
30

I was a prosecutor in a military town for a few years. Cheating while husband gone is the norm
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 07:57 PM
1

I’d agree, my 5’4 friend spent a few years jacked in his 20s, was still a virgin until his mid 30s
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:56 AM
1

Agree that the Japanese culture in general has a lot of very unhealthy cultural norms. But then I see what our ‘freedom’ gets us here and I understand way the costs are worth it
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:54 AM
4

It’s hard to get much use out of it daily life. People mostly see me in a Suit and Tie, so most folks are actually shocked when in a situation I’m shirtless. I guess could be like my Chad friend who looks for an excuse to take his shirt off
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:53 AM
7

For women and Chads to understand this, think of when you’re having a hard time finding work after college, and a boomer tells you to just walk into a place and ask for a job. Makes you feel really annoyed at them smugly recommending something that if anything makes the situation worse, so they can blame you for your situation rather than rightfully placing it on thing’s outside your control? That’s what society is doing, and it’s really unethical
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:48 AM
12

Anything except have women desire him. You can still have sex with escorts if you want, again, it’s cheaper than being a beta. If you’re upset you won’t get Chad treatment, well, think of Chads like the wealthy. They have fake jobs, if any, but get tons of money and barely work. They will always have unearned better lives than us. But we still try to live out lives as best we can. This is just the sexual form of that
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:46 AM
1

Well, for this specific example, it’s call arranged marriage. Which I guess is a solution to all this pill stuff, but I don’t think it’s a good one
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:40 AM
21

Difference between desiring and damning yourself. We all want things in life we can’t have, not just women. Life is taking what we can get out of it and making it work best we can. Blackpill helps you understand that so a man doesn’t keep bashing his short bald ugly autistic self against an impossible wall, but focuses on what he can do
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:39 AM
1

Definitely heard that, which makes sense. Especially because she only got with you do resources m, makes her super vulnerable to well, all the guys who are going to try to have sex with her. Which is a lot of guys
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:26 AM
9

Understand life is more than ducking women I guess. So I guess the last one. Women are a massive resource drain on all fronts, so if you know it’s a lost cause, does free up a lot of resources for you to be more efficient with. And if you still want sex, escorts are cheaper than being a beta
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:23 AM
0

Guess the system works? Crap genes being weeded out
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:21 AM
6

The weird thing is they are viewed as good things. That’s what the blue pill is, the majority view. However, it doesn’t matter how people consciously think when it comes to attraction, it’s what biology drives us to do.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:19 AM
1

The not true isn’t that people are fat, idiot, it’s not because of food. You made a stupid conclusion and you tripled down on it. Good job
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:14 AM
2

I dunno, stats are pretty bad for lesbians. And all the ones I know in real life also aren’t a happy bunch
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 01:44 AM
2

Hmm, I really only have a handful in my social circle. Like….2 is all I can think of. Not saying the women I know don’t love the cock carousel, but they were smart enough to use protection and most of them are married to betas now
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:52 AM
2

Makes sense, I’ve only person known 4 chads in my life. I’m sure I’ve met more, but didn’t know them well enough to know their dating life
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:13 AM
1

Need the looks to get the chance to fumble
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 11:58 PM
1

Sometimes, I’m sure.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 11:58 PM
5

Hmm, as long as they keep fucking Chad, they’ll stay. Men only go through the trouble if they aren’t getting sex. And I doubt women will stop fucking Chads anytime soon
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 09:54 PM
1

Yeah, like, I met my ex wife through my friend, she asked him for my number and he pointed her in my direction. But if she didn’t already want me, that wouldn’t have helped
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 09:51 PM
-1

Sure, for my city. I’m sure folks in NYC and bumfuck Idaho have different situations. Averaging them together is ducking stupid. But you do you
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 09:50 PM
15

I have friends who are basically virgins for life, and others who generally always have 2+ women they’re sleeping by with. Might just keep going even further in those directions
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 09:41 PM
1

Not quite the same, but as a woman traveling, the ‘sec on tap’ exists there too, and if attractive can basically get free vacation events out of it,
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 09:38 PM
7

I’ve never seen it IRL and I’m 36. I see ‘social proofing’ or whatever, but that’s not thensame
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:36 PM
15

Pretty much, I’ve never seen a wingman work exactly
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:35 PM
1

Haha, no, most my friends in our mid 30s aren’t fat at all. You just don’t eat bad shit, and everyone knows this
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 08:32 PM
2

Yes, I think this ties in with women’s attraction being based around her mental image. If a guy is better than all other guys around her, but ‘objectively’ not a great genetic specimen, she’ll still get hit and bothered for him because it’s the mental image that drives it, not the genetics purely
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 06:32 PM
3

Studies have shown women have much more trouble admitting they were wrong compared to men. I think this stems from whatever causes that
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 06:14 PM
1

It’s funny how often women say they don’t shame men for low n count, but whenever they talk amongst themselves, they completely do
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 04:09 PM
1

That makes a lot of sense. And sad. Many ugly men will literally work themselves to death doing anything they could for those women who can’t keep a Chad, but that only seems to make them like them worse if they even notice those men exist. But that makes a lot of ‘where are all the good men at’ and ‘men are bad’ posts make sense. They’re describing Chad behavior and inability to find a Chad, because that’s what they think ‘men’ are, and these other men are some neutral gender drones
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 03:56 PM
1

That’s literally what is is. And women don’t want limits on being sluts, it’s why n count bothers them so much. Hence the unhinged responses
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 03:22 PM
1

It’s more so you know and can leave rather than waste time. Unless you’re married, in which case she’ll usually leave you after she cheats
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 03:05 PM
2

And then get cheated on, haha
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 02:57 PM
1

There is just literally a shortage of Chads in the world. And if a woman wants a Chad whose also actually ‘husband material’ that is single digits. I’ve not seen any real discussion from women what to do about this situation, like we see men talk about their dating issues here frequently.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 02:56 PM
2

I’d agree. And from my Chad friends, Chad will lie to you about committing, about not sleeping with other women at the same time, etc. But he’s going too.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 02:50 PM
3

I can just say every single woman, every single one, has lied to me about their sexual past. I always here latter from other sources, and sometimes themeselves, information which shows they were lying for whatever reason. So, I have a ton of doubt any survey when women talk about how often, what kind, etc, anything about sex
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 02:41 PM
1

That’s actually studies out there and generally showing we as people don’t handle unlimited choices well, and makes worse decisions than if we had a limited number of options
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 02:35 PM
3

Well, I don’t blame em. Kids are pretty much the game changer for life, I wouldn’t want to be involved with someone who had them either
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 02:12 PM
3

No? Never had my bros do that. Those don’t sound like bros. I had a girl my bro was interested back in HS ask my bro for my number, and I told him duck that bitch and told her I was interested. (I didn’t swear or anyway her)
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 02:11 PM
1

Well, my point is, all of that stuff you say they want? They aren’t getting that when the sex was the best. So, clearly, it’s not needed to be horny asf. But, like you just did, it gets blamed for sex going away, when they’d not the case at all
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 01:46 PM
1

No, not really, haha. Almost all my women friends and co workers are very offended when I tell them I’m interested in sluts. And plus, i don’t think you can write off the intense backlash received online. It’s not like you get that backlash if you say ‘ I don’t date woman who cut the crust off sandwiches’ because no one cares and realizes it’s dumb
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 01:42 PM
1

If you tell them?
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 01:23 AM
6

I’m glad the youth understand. My generation sure didn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 01:09 AM
22

Yeah, I couldn’t do that. It’s one thing being settled for. I think it’s worse doing the settling as a man. Because you’ll have to treat the woman you settle for the same as one who settled for you, it’s not like you get better treatment. That behavior is just wired into the biology
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 09:38 PM
6

I’d agree, as all of this attraction stems from biology.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 09:35 PM
10

Men get mad crap for not wanting to marry a slut
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 09:35 PM
2

I guess my point is, early in a relationship when her hormones are pumping, and she’s staring at the image in her mind of her man, a women will blow you in the car picking her up for dinner downtime after some light sexting throughout the day, then go home and fuck your brains out after dinner. After marriage, a man can plan a surprise Europe Vacation while working like a dog so she can do what she wants in life, and get a resentful hand job. Basically, women blame men for lack of ‘romance’ when…
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 09:33 PM
1

I should specify South East. Bible Belt is a different breed from South West. Similar for Mexicans here, it’s not nearly as common. Like, I was in NY two weeks ago, and seeing all the interracial couples is kinda shocking, as it still hasn’t caught on much yet. My ex wife always hated how we stood out
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:15 PM
1

Hell, I mean even giving them what they ‘want’ not what they ‘say they want’ is also a recipe for disaster. In this case, like you said, all men get into some arms race to look more and more Chad like want satisfy them. They just aren’t biological wired to reach that state
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:04 PM
1

Because it’s not certain women, it’s just how attraction is wired. It won’t be evident at first, but it puts a crack in her image if you, and that image is paramount
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:50 PM
7

Yup, if not a Chad, why would they give a boy the time of day? They’re not looking to get married, just for a good time
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 07:49 PM
1

Yeah, no one says Chad end up in great place. The issue is women will fuck Chad until he reaches that place, and they won’t give the same to non Chads
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 07:40 PM
8

Hmm, the ‘I see ugly men with wives all the time’ thing aside, I don’t see many young women with young ugly men
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 07:39 PM
2

Eh, I enjoyed spending time with my ex wife. It was nice
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 07:38 PM
12

It’s more men upset they’re lied too about what’s going on. It’s very rare for any of this to be admitted too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:37 PM
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I’d chalk that up to other studies that show partners lie about their numbers. A bit too much of an outlier
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:33 PM
1

If this pill crap has taught us anything, it’s that doing what women say they want is a recipe for disaster
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 06:25 PM
1

What is the pink pill?
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 06:24 PM
3

Depends on how you want to define it. But if you’re a hot black dude, you’ll slay no worries
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 06:23 PM
17

The blackpill take is that sex is free for Chads, but non chads have to pay for a lesser effort than Chads get for free
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 06:06 PM
6

If you’re unattractive, sure. If you have the features they want, they will. You’re just genetically less likely to have those features
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 06:04 PM
2

Yup, it generally lasts a few months for a ‘smart’ women before she gets some post nut clarity
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 05:40 PM
3

Basically, the ‘race’ pill is certain races have advantages on the first 4 pills. It’s not really your race per se, it’s the fact that being that race means you’re more likely to rank higher.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 05:39 PM
2

Well, I’m 5’10 and get dates. I don’t get Chad treatment, though •
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 05:36 PM
1

Harder for a white dude to date an Asian or Indian in the south than PW or NE, I mean.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 05:27 PM
1

Yup, and her best friend, the bride in that wedding who tried to set us up, has told me that’s her biggest issue, is while she never says it, she wants that perfect body. All the men she sleeps with fit that build. But the thing is, all her friends she was jealous of? None of us with one exception are Chad husbands. So even as she points at her friends l, and says that’s what I want, and even as her friends serve that literally to her in a silver platter, she turns her nose up. So, some women ha…
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 03:44 PM
3

Yeah, I mean, the dates weren’t awkward or anything, we had good conversations, similar and got along well, but after 3 dates she had shown zero interest in getting physical at all, so I declined a 4th date. This was last year, she was the last single woman in our friend group and everyone was getting engaged, married, buying homes, and having kids. She always talked about how jealous she was of her friends having ‘good men’ etc. At the time, I was 10 weeks out from my wife leaving me, we were b…
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 02:47 PM
8

We had a women in our social circle. She was interested in a Chad in our circle. We all told her he was with many other women right now, and would just pump and dump her. She still went out and fucked him stupid. Two months later, she was heart broken when gasp, he was still ticking by other women and wouldn’t commit. Not sure I’d it makes it worse, but about a month prior, said girl and I had gone out on 3 dates thst went no where, haha
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 01:48 PM
5

And those men aren’t getting that lustful treatment they Chad gets either. So those men put forth much more effort, but don’t get that same emotional investment some guy with tingle inducing genetics gets for no effort. And you’re right, it doesn’t seem to matter the woman, even an average woman won’t get turned on by an average man.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 01:44 PM
7

This is very accurate. The ‘black pill’ for me isn’t that only Chad gets women, it’s that Chad will get 100% from women and give 0% back, everyone else will have to give 100% and get maybe 25% Will also say as someone n who was with his wife for 9 years and divorced, while I enjoyed my marriage, the middle paragraph is not an inaccurate description of how marriage is
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 01:05 PM
2

Yup, I definitely believe it happens, I’ve just never seen a woman admit too it.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 12:56 PM
6

Definitely, I remember the weird kids in school. They weren’t autistic, but they looked extremely unfortunate so we weren’t friends with them, and it just got worse each year as they missed out in how to act in a social setting the rest of us were unconsciously learning
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 12:56 PM
2

This is what defines Rule 1, Rule 2. It’s to show it literally doesn’t matter what Chad does, he gets a positive response. Non Chad does the same l, negative response. And I agree, I have 3 Chad friends, who outside of their looks really don’t have a ton of above average qualities
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 12:54 PM
1

Honestly a good way to look at it. The internet has really polarized this, and a norm or who before would be big fish in a small pond is now clear to all wome. He’s actually a normal fish
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 12:52 PM
1

I’m in the south, which is weirdly less ‘jbw’ than other places apparently. Or I should say, I see less interracial dating here.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 12:51 PM
1

Well, wishing harm on others ain’t really selling thst you deserve anything positive
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 12:50 PM
3

I’m not even sure who this is, so I must have blocked him quickly without even realizing. Been on Reddit enough to notice folks who are so far gone yiu just ignore the unhinged ravings of a desperate lonely person
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 12:48 PM
2

This. I’m not into that Red Pill stuff, so when I’ve been on dates and it’s not there at the start, I’m not trying some manipulative tactics to hopefully create some fake short term attraction. Just try ti get out as quickly as possible. Getting better, ended the last one early
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 12:47 PM
0

Same. It’s often obvious they settled by their behavior, but this entire ‘pill’ thing is about women being dishonest or unaware of their own attraction.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 12:45 PM
4

Well, I think it’s more men who say they settled. Women, whether intentional or not, have difficulty with the truth if it reflects poorly in them. So, I rarely see them say they settled, even though watching their behavior to their husband it’s clear that’s the case
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 12:44 PM
6

Definitely, but wasn’t even getting there except with one. Almost like they’re too guarded. Well, one was almost competitive, loved to talk about her career, as she was a successful professional who was in town less than half the year, so I’m not even sure what she was looking for. The one who got there, went as you said, she loved talking about her self and interests, my hobbies were enough for her to launch further into herself about. but she just had zero interest in anything physical after 3…
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 02:34 AM
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Another variation I see is women say they aren’t attracted to their husband because he doesn’t romance them anymore. I can tell from personal experience, the amount of romance a man does in dating is a small fraction of marriage. But one gets much better response. Which ties into the chad/buxx thing. Chad does nothing to romance, but women swoon. It’s basically just more lies
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 11:24 PM
1

Pretty much. The pill is it’s core is what women say they want and what they actually want aren’t the same thing
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 11:22 PM
7

Yup, the rule is does she get physical on no later than the 2nd date. Honestly you need to be getting those vibes on the first one. If not, she’s not into you, and if she’s still wanting to go out with you, it’s a buxx situation
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 11:13 PM
12

This is more accurate. My ex treated me like that, and would and did do everything for her. Mid 30s dates I’ve been on have felt more like an interview
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 11:12 PM
1

No, nothing like that
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 11:11 PM
0

He is an ugly man, either genetics are great in my social circle, or this guy is well below average
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 10:13 PM
12

I have 3 friends who I would consider ‘Chads’ and none of them fit any ‘success’ criteria outside looks, and maybe personality. But I think much of their good personality comes from a positive reception to their looks; if I acted exactly like them, the response would not be the same
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 06:31 PM
2

It’s autism, is what it is. Or more to the point , people with bad argument’s pretending to be autistic
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 06:29 PM
1

Gotcha. And I agree. I just see a lot of folks here get upset that Chad fucks their women when they’re young, and said women don’t treat them half as well for four times the effort. Which is all true, but plenty of other things have the exact same treatment in life, but we accept it and take what we can get for our station
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 05:32 PM
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Well, you were never going to be a rich guy and live that life. He will do nothing and make way more than you slaving away at a job. Is that going to stop you from trying to get the best job you can? It’s like they for relationships. Chads are the rich guy, and you’ll work way harder and get way less. But you still take what you can get, because it’s life
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 05:00 PM
3

I’ve only been in 4 relationships, married for 9 years with most recent, but all came from my social circles. So I agree
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 04:57 PM
3

So true. Post divorce, with my 50+ person social circle all tied up only marriages and kids, I tried to find some new social circles, it was literally what you said, just ‘losers’ like me who weren’t really going to add any hope of a relationship, and honestly, even as friends…there is a reason most of them are there.
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 04:56 PM
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I don’t know about ‘average’ but he’s definitely unattractive. We have one in our social circle who is almost a carbon copy of him, down to the fishing, and he’s easily the least attractive
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 04:53 PM
1

Exactly. I’m still coming to terms as a non Chad, I was lucky for the time I had with my ex wife and probably won’t have another woman feel the same way. And having experienced that, I don’t want to buxx like some of my friends have settled for
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 04:00 PM
2

Well, the whole ‘pill philosophy came up because women either don’t know what they are attracted too, or lie about it. I tend to think former, because I don’t think so badly of women to imagine the latter, but many man sunk to such hate they believe it intentionally
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 03:59 PM
2

Indeed, and it’s actually like that for a lot of sexual based dynamics. Turns out men and women are pretty opposite when it comes to this, who knew?
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 03:57 PM
6

Well, women don’t lie per se, but they have zero clue what drives their attraction
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 03:25 PM
3

This. I had to explain this to my friends wife, when she was saying ‘men should show emotion’ for how wrong she was. She got angry when I brought up her crying literally last week over her baseboards not being ‘clean’ and had tot roll her should would have no respect for her husband if he did that. But she’s super liberal, which is the old rules for thee, not for me
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 03:24 PM
3

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/cultural-animal/202201/how-sexual-desire-changes-after-marriage Actually 100% true
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 03:20 PM
5

Of course not, that’s why I made the comment. They’re just aware, even in their delusional state, they can’t voice their real feelings, hence the lies we don’t think are remotely true
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 02:36 PM
2

That’s been my issue post divorce. My ex wife was the only woman whose wanted me with that intense lust, so when I’m out with someone and it feels like an interview, I’m mentally looking at my watch
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 02:33 PM
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I will say it’s funny how the only time those folks can about the poor living conditions in those countries is when….men here want to go marry them. It’s pretty obvious what bothers them
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 01:54 PM
2

I will almost say, the same studies that show wives lose attraction to husbands almost always does not show the reverse. So while men may fall in love with an image, it doesn’t naturally crack with time like a woman’s does
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 01:07 PM
1

Just less men in general. The actual level of attention from men doesn’t really decrease massively though, just the sorts of men showing interest. This is because All Men pretty much want all young attractive women, just they’re so far out of most men won’t even try. As the women ages, those men who can get those young women don’t pay her attention, but now men who knew they were out of the younger ma league are there. Basically always be options, just not as good ones
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 01:06 PM
2

I’m going to guess ‘Down’s syndrome’ but not sure, folks here seem to have a game of making up new slang rapidly
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 12:56 PM
2

Are folks here thinking of rope when they realize no matter how hard they work, some trust fund baby who does nothing will have more money than them? Yea, life isn’t fair, and other people will get more out of life with less effort. Still doesn’t mean your life can’t be enjoyable enough as is. It’s not a zero sum game
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 12:55 PM
3

Everything is always 5 years off, but tech in most aspects of life hasn’t advanced that much
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 12:41 AM
1

That’s what his argument would be, a reaction. It’s going to be hard to say he felt threatened for most judges. But really, I’ve convicted plenty of people who hit back. The other guy gets convicted too, of course. They’re usually shit show jerry springer trials
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 12:02 AM
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That’s what my friends suggest I do. I’ve always been a relationship only guy, but they say I’m great especially for my age and should just fuck around for once in my life
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 10:36 PM
1

Sorta, he’s 6 years older than me, so 8 years older than her. He makes 105k, so less than what I was making when she left, but if he’s been single his whole life probably has a lot of money sitting in the bank as it’s women which drain it. Dunno if he’s proposed, but my ex broke her no contact to make sure I was served with divorce papers on cases she wanted to remarry.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:45 PM
2

Not shocking at all. It was very common in DV cases.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:14 PM
2

Legally speaking, retaliation isn’t lawful. If someone hits you, you’re only allowed to hit back in self defense. So, basically, he would need a judge (this is too small for a jury) to believe he thought he was still in danger and needed to defend himself. She of course is definitely guilty of assault, but it my state, the punishment for a women hitting a man is 1/6 the reverse Edit: am a former prosecutor
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:00 PM
2

Do they stay like that, or do they wander someday here, talking of various ‘cels’ ‘max’ and ‘rope’ eventually?
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 08:31 PM
6

Yeah, I agree with you an OP. If you’re a Chad, you just have not really mess it up; but women will give you a ton of leeway. If you’re just bottom tier, you have to try and create, well, attraction is a strong word, but something ti at least even get into consideration to be settled for If ‘normal’ if she’s flirting with you, less is more, as you’re on thin ice anyways and too much ‘you’ can shatter that ice.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 07:49 PM
2

You’re not too far on that last line, haha. These days women love to engage in high cucking risk activities that would have been unthinkable 30 years ago. And if their men don’t like their women putting themselves into these situations, society attacks them as insecure, controlling, etc.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 07:24 PM
8

This. I’m recently divorced, 36. I have more prospects now than when I was 26 by quite a bit, as I’m no Chad and making more than double what I did then, have a house, paid off car, etc. But those prospects? Way worse than when I was 26. So, while it was harder at 26, the reward for success was much greater. And while my marriage ended suddenly and awful after 9 years, my ex was a catch back then. Still is for her age. These days I get a lot more interest, but it’s not exactly anyone I’ve wanted…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 07:11 PM
2

I can tell you my ex wife at 34 had zero wall, men were still literally swarming her
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 07:03 PM
8

It’s why the ‘men do it too!’ Is such a dumb response. Men and women when it comes to relationships have different wants/needs. Of course, they never go the other way, so it’s clear what they mean with that argument
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:55 PM
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Exactly. And lots of things can crack thst image, but until it shatters, you as the man won’t really know. And it will seem like it came from no where, when really, many small things were cracking her image of you over the months and years, until it’s weak enough for some other guy to give her those tingles she used to have for you, and it shatters
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:17 PM
5

One thing I learned the very hard way in marriage is women don’t actually really know what they want in a man. Doing what they ask of you is a very easy way of killing their attraction
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:12 PM
8

Crying thing is true. I learned that the hard way. Even if it’s not shown immediately it puts a crack in the foundation of that image she has for you making it easier to shatter later
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:06 PM
5

Oh, definitely your right. They put a lot of effort into making it look like they didn’t put a lot of effort.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:04 PM
2

Yet they still get married, haha
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:43 PM
7

Oh, I can tell you from my Korean ex wife, Asians are more into make up than anyone
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:42 PM
3

No, we never did. In general I don’t lie. I don’t even like lying by omission, and have a bad habit of correcting someone’s wrong assumptions when it’s be best for them to keep misunderstanding the situation. Also, really wouldn’t want to send my friend into a situation to just get slammed because she didn’t think he was manlet size. He really is a very good guy
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:33 PM
3

Yup, telling someone they ‘should’ have sex with someone they don’t want too gets mighty close to rape. It’s a reason arranged marriage is so looked down on, even here
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:31 PM
2

I think the ones who aren’t hugging their ropes tightly just are bothered by how we all acknowledge men’s attraction is driven by biology, but pretend women’s is derived from virtue or some garbage
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:15 PM
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I agree with the bolded part. I’d had a lot of life experience here, and lot of reading and listening, and the concept that women really love an image, it’s the closest to a ‘unified field theory’ I can come up with. It explains that key stat that almost all women lose attraction to their husbands over time, no matter what their husband do. Because that image can’t withstand realityZ
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:12 PM
2

It definitely is, but there is truth there ‘from a certain point of view’ Basically, for your typical guy whose not attractive to women, he will get more success in his 30s than than his 20s. He will not be objectively successful, but he will be more successful than the literal zero it was before. The women he gets will not be high quality. They will be older with baggage. They would not have wanted him when they were younger and had more options. And he will have to do more for them than anyone…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:07 PM
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Hmm, I have some Chads in my friends and family. Typically, they get worse as they get older, and most have worse jobs than the betas. They look good for their age, but not good objectively They are still always with women, just less options and obviously worse women. But you’re right, the average man ages just awful. Bald is so awful for men, and even if you’re not balding hair thinning is really bad too
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:04 PM
1

I’m recently divorced and doing OLD dating for the first time, so I really don’t know how to response. I typically respond with something about myself, and do the ‘you?’ Follow up as well. Been pretty awful for OLD though, haha, mid 30s ain’t fun.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 04:31 PM
2

They don’t, they think they hate sex with un attractive men, which based on data, is the majority of men
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 04:01 PM
9

I’ve always found it funny that things folks accept in every other instance of life, apply that same reasoning to women in relationships, and suddenly logic and reason don’t matter at all. It’s really bizarre
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:40 PM
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One of my best friends is 5’4. Been wanting a woman his whole life. When my ex wife had a friend ever looking for a guy, we’d try to sell him, and they’d always be interested…until his height came out. Instant no, none of her friends would ever agree. And she is Korean, and many of her friends were shorter than 5’4. Didn’t matter, they weren’t willing to even give him a date to see if they’d get some tingles
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:17 PM
5

Generally not. Some subs, but anything that has a decent traffic, it’s pretty anti men
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:15 PM
2

I’ve literally never seen on in my life, so if it happens, not anywhere near anything I’d ever encounter
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:13 PM
7

That’s Reddit for you.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:04 PM
1

It’s easy for men, I guess. I have some nice sets for different settings, and just pick one
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 02:49 PM
1

Definitely. Women hate that, even as they ask for it and get angry when you’re assertive. While I think red pill is mostly bunk, it is helpful to know that while you might not know what a women wants from a man, she doesn’t either so don’t just do what she wants
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 02:49 PM
1

Well, I guess you don’t have to play them. I didn’t and got burned hard though
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 02:47 PM
1

That’s one way. Or just leave in general. That said, from my personal experience, that is a short term solution, as too much is bad as well and leave
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 02:42 PM
1

I’ve had to act dumb around all my long term relationships, to a degree. It’s not so much they want a dumb person, is they don’t want to feel dumb. So you play with kid gloves
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 02:40 PM
12

The amount of evil you see people support when is pretty sad
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 02:38 PM
1

Really? Hmm. I guess I don’t know where to find those, my single women friends always have one if not Ina relationship, so they find them somewhere. Usually it’s some guy they meet in OLD whose a loser but is hot, so they just duck him while looking for a husband
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 02:36 PM
1

Not really, he lives in a different city now, so I’ve only met her 3 times. She seems attentive enough, but she also kind of negged him a bit last weekend which I didn’t like. Like, telling everyone he did a bad job making the cake (he never made a cake before but he tried when she asked him too for the party), or telling her friends she ‘wanted his help picking some clothes out’ but she learned ‘if I give him too many choices he shuts down’ or saying to me ‘guess how many hats he owns? He alway…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 02:35 PM
8

Hmm, well, my friends work out more than their wives, but their wives spend way more time getting ready with make up, hair and outfits. Was the same for my ex wife
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 02:25 PM
2

I 100% agree. And the thing that makes it difficult, is your woman will be asking and wanting you to do these things, but if you do it, you’ll start to lose her. But like you said, can’t just go entirely distant. It’s rough, because the onus is on the man to understand someone who doesn’t understand themselves
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 01:37 PM
3

We have a few of those in our social circle, where it’s so bad they stop even pretending
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 01:05 PM
2

As someone whose ex gave for one reason she cheated as ‘you did too much for me and it made me feel pressured’ yeah, that’s a thing
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 01:04 PM
1

Well, if you want one, I imagine you can find one. My ex wife got back on the market at 34 and had Simps swarming her from literally day one
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 01:03 PM
3

Hell, it’s different just being fat. Go from being fat to in shape and see how different the world treats you
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 01:01 PM
1

Definitely, but I feel at that point they took their shot and can await the sweet embrace of death
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:59 PM
1

I agree, but like everything, there are limits eventually without commitment most women will leave. So it’s more a delaying tactics without further actions
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 11:41 AM
1

Hey, I’ve never had sex outside a relationship, and went longer than a week between relationships, so just one for me
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 11:40 AM
1

I guess, but it’s more an ‘active’ thing than a ‘passive’ thing, so if I live with someone, they’re going to see the ‘non charisma’ self a lot more because I have to actively try to do that. Whereas I’ve friends who that’s just what they are as a default
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:56 AM
1

That’s usually less to do with not being attracted to your wife, and more your wife not being attracted to you, so the fun sex you used to have she doesn’t want to do anymore
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:55 AM
1

See? Perfect fit.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:53 AM
1

Guess we all have different things they work. I’ve not noticed any of the main positions not working. Things like spooning sex, sure, bad angles there, but that’s more for early morning or late night intimacy
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:27 AM
2

I do see a ton of hideous looking Indian men with wives in my line of work. How do blackpill folks feel about arranged marriages?
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 01:22 AM
2

Yeah, that’s what I said. If she gains a ton of weight, yeah. If she’s still taking care of herself, no
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 01:21 AM
2

I guess they ‘got theirs’ so why do they care? They found their Filipina half their age and are set to ride out life
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:44 AM
1

I guess for me the ‘blackpill’ is women will give their entire self to men who are everything they claim to hate, and who do nothing for them, then treat someone who does everything they claim to want, and treats them great, and not even treat him half as well as the former.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:17 AM
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Well, it’s his own choice. Man makes 200k, and prior to his GF just traveled all the time. He could keep doing that and just enjoying paying women in various countries and living a fun life if he wanted. It’s only been 2 years, so we’ll see on 10 if he still thinks this was a good idea, but he prefers it to the alternative now
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:14 AM
1

You’d fit right in on dead bedrooms
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:13 AM
1

Weirdly enough the studies don’t show that. Husbands don’t lose attraction for their wives mostly. That doesn’t mean they don’t cheat; men are always down to fuck, they still love and want to duck their wives though. Women are different, women once they duck another man find their old man unattractive and leave him, even if they were happy fucking him last night.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:13 AM
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Actually not, studies show men don’t lose attraction to their wives barring obvious things line massive weight gain. Men are waaaay easier to plead than women
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:11 AM
2

Well, it’s easy for some to do than others. Like, I’m really shy. It was so my job to argue in court in front of a jury every day. If you watched me in court, you’d have no idea, I was confident, deep commanding voice, sure of myself. Talk to me at a party? None of that. Some guys just ‘are’ that playful douche attitude, other guys can do it, but it’s not their default behavior
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:10 AM
1

Well, I guess I’ll take you word it’s intentional, but that’s what it’s ‘fall in love with’ as it was never the beta they loved, but whatever image they had in their mind. Maybe it’s their Chad. But it catches the nets off guard, as he’s the same guy, he had a wife who rocked his world for 2-3 years, and now she acts like she’s always angry at him and he’s the worst guy ever
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 12:03 AM
2

Definitely. Women definitely get the ick, and even coming home stressed from work is enough to put a crack that later leads to her cheating years later
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 10:27 PM
1

I found the ‘uncertainty’ or insecurity’ created by waiting to get proposed To can extend the interest
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 10:25 PM
3

That’s actually what the study I mentioned show, the only wives who consistently didn’t lose attraction had uncertainty. Which I think really means mate guarding essentially not convinced their mate won’t leave. Also, men showed zero loss in attraction outside significant physical decay of their wives. Basically, as long as she takes care of herself as she ages, husbands always think their wife is hot
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 09:15 PM
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Yup, that’s a core ‘pill’ thing. Women only want Chads, settle for non chads, and come to resent the poor beta whose done nothing wrong
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 08:14 PM
3

Yup, one lesson to take out of thst hell is that sex is what all romantic relationships are about. No sex, just a normal relationship. So women not wanting to be with a man because they want to jump his bones is a recipe for disaster down the road
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 08:13 PM
2

Definitely. Even as a non Chad, I had women think I was ‘dark and brooding’ and crush on me, but after dating realize I’m just shy and quiet with the male equivalent of resting bitch face. But they were able to project and fantasize about thst unknown enough to want to go out with me
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 07:59 PM
1

To be fair, that’s the core of all ‘pill’ stuff: society acts like women’s attraction is not driven by biology, unlike men, which we all accept is driven by biology.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 07:58 PM
2

Pretty much my take. Yeah, should the world have treated a great guy better? Of course, but is this better than his real alternatives? Definitely looks like it
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 07:06 PM
3

After having an ex wife obsessed with travel, it’s now a crimson flag for me going forward
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 06:01 PM
7

I definitely think a Chad settling diminishes him in his woman’s eyes. I’ve had my Chad friends go through the same stuff in LTRs that non chads go through.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:59 PM
12

Studies have shown the vast majority of women lose attraction to their husbands post marrisg, regardless of the husbands actions I guess the question thst needs to be answered is why do many of those same women act attracted pre marriage. I’ve heard many say ‘bait and switch’ but it’s so common I don’t think the majority of women are unethical enough to do that on a large scale. My theory is attraction for women is largely mental. It’s why Chad works, they can project all these positive qualitie…
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:58 PM
2

I definitely wasn’t when I went out with someone in my circle; I was aware of her sexual history, so when 3rd date rolled around and it was still just ‘good vibes’ I just said I wasn’t ready for a relationship and stopped it. Nice woman, good hang, but her sexual behavior since then has overwhelmingly confirmed I made the correct decision
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:32 PM
1

This is exactly how women think, literally told this by my women friends. And they see zero issue with this, and also though I was crazy when I said it was unethical to not be upfront about that with their partners
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 04:53 PM
1

Well, yeah, they had sex, but outside of relationships very rarely.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 03:51 PM
2

The latter is usually what I get when I tell people of the folks in my life, and I’m bog standard white. middle class, southern US metro. I think me and mine are about as boring and normal as they come
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 03:45 PM
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I honestly think that’s the case. Women literally had to be with men who murdered their men and children, and then have children with these men. I think the evolution required to keep sane in that environment is behind a lot of things, like the fear of accountability. Normally be some serious guilt in that situation, but the brain evolves to cope
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 03:05 PM
2

I’m not speculating, I told you a literal fact, and you created some sort of giga whore cope.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 02:50 PM
4

I have a pretty big social circle, and only the Chads ever got ‘laid all the time’
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 02:48 PM
2

Saw the kid at a Halloween party this weekend, seems fine. A bit shy, but was the only kid there, so makes sense. I haven’t heard any mention of her ex from either of them, so dunno who or where he is.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 02:30 PM
3

I think a virgin needs to at least experience it to understand
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 02:29 PM
2

Kids 11, so almost in middle school
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 02:21 PM
5

Yeah, and my friend really wanted kids too. His had to adjust his life expectations
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 02:17 PM
3

Yup, first marriage is bad enough, second is literally more likely than not to fail
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 02:10 PM
9

Definitely, even if she’s making him happy, she can end it overnight with no warning and ruin him
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 02:02 PM
3

Over what timeframe? The entire two semesters I lived with him? Or like a week? Over a week I guess 4 or so different women. They stayed in the rotation frequently though.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 02:01 PM
1

Definitely, as a single man you’ll have more money than you know what to do with as you don’t waste it on pointless feel good temporary shit. Solitude is always an option. My friend, we’ll see. Being married is nothing like dating, and I imagine being settle for in that environment is grating
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:53 PM
1

Of course, it’s called new relationship energy. Non chads can get the Chad treatment from the odd women who likes them. The difference is, when it fades, and it always does, even for Chad, the non Chad can’t get another women, and he has a wife who brags about how she has a ‘dirtier dick than her husband’ to quote my best friends wife
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:52 PM
2

Yup. She literally got on the plane full of my cum. Then two weeks in, goes out, cheats, and basically ghosts me. It’s some intense whiplash. But I really do believe women especially have a 7 year itch And yeah, she got 50k out of me in the divorce, but has already blow through most of it. Coulda got more, but we had just bought a house month prior to her cheating, and she poured a lot of money into renovations that didn’t really increase the home value. Also worked really hard getting the house…
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:48 PM
1

Their husbands, not Bf. Trust me, wives treat husbands way worse than gfs cheat bfs. And no, they’re perfectly normal mundane women
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:44 PM
5

Many different girls wanting to fuck you on a daily basis with no work on your part
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:43 PM
9

It isn’t, especially for a guy who really is the best guy I know. But yeah, just keep self improving and you can be someone women’s retirement plan. Worse things in life I guess
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:28 PM
1

Depends what you mean by ‘betabux’ Do you mean non chads can’t get a wife? Of course not. Do you mean non chads will never get that Chad treatment their wife gave to a Chad in the past? Oh yeah, that describes most everyone in my circle. Their wives literally brag about the men they used to duck prior to husband
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:27 PM
6

Have a friend like that. Nicest guy I know. Was a virgin until 32, now at 36 engaged to a 38 year old mom. Is that hope?
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:23 PM
6

Exaggerated, but I had a college roommate who basically has this lifestyle
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:22 PM
2

Essentially. It doesn’t seem to be a natural state for women. Well, long term monogamy. Not exactly Rick everything they moves men aspire too, but more serial monogamy. I have friends who are doing okay, but it really revolves either around the wife staying out of bad situations or the husband essentially breaking her mentally, which it’s always depressing seeing them with their friend brains
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:11 PM
3

I 100% agree. This behavior has its roots in biology, the modern era just is was enough it can run rampart without the constraints it had in the past
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:03 PM
2

Dating is pretty good if she’s into you. You it’s once that wears off it gets dicy
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:02 PM
7

Even being Chad doesn’t work. Studies have shown wives lose attraction literally regardless of whatever their husbands do. I’ve have had Chad friends whohave more sex in a month than most guys in a life still have the same crap happen to them when they try and settle down
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 12:59 PM
14

Go read deadbedrooms for a look into hell
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 12:57 PM
1

Eh, it barely happened to him. And it she didn’t do anything, guy did it himself as he wanted pussy. I’m still basically some RP content
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 12:51 PM
6

Clearly, much like men, women’s choices really don’t matter for the dating world. Regardless of how ‘pure’ she is, Chad still won’t commit to her, and the simps will still always commit. So, honestly, women are just being rational
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 12:49 PM
1

No, she had been in America since she was 14, and was 33 when this happened. Had been a citizen before we ever met. And have you met women? They all want to out themselves into bad situations. And we were together 9 years, with literally nothing like this before. And I’ve had plenty of my guy friends cheat on bachelor parties. It you honestly think the situation you put yourself in has no impact, it’s just internal, you’re being naive to the point of cope so you don’t have to try in a relationsh…
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 12:33 PM
6

Definitely. College roommate was a Chad, was an eye opening experience seeing women literally throw themselves at him.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 11:21 AM
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The sheer emotion and defensiveness the question creates on both ends is evident to how important and impactful it is. Something that didn’t matter wouldn’t get such a reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:29 AM
2

Agreed. I was married to a Korea women for 9 years, and it’s world difference from back then. Especially amongst Asian women, they increasingly prefer their own and don’t want yt. It’s not how it used to be
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 02:26 AM
1

Plus, Asian men are doing better statistically on OLD than they used too. They’re benefiting from the more pro Asia, boo yt culture if the last decade
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 02:12 AM
1

Yup. Though, I don’t think women do this beforehand to get out of a relationship, just their inability to take accountability for anything makes them rationalize it after the fact. One moral of the story? Every women is at risk of cheating anytime they put themselves into a situation that women call men ‘insecure’ for not wanting them to do. At least I live in a civilized state so I don’t have to pay Alimony
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:41 AM
5

Sure, and ‘emotional connection’ is ‘the guy has genetics that give me tingles’
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:37 AM
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They don’t need emotional connection, otherwise they wouldn’t jump Chads bones. They need their tingles, which comes from their mental image. An actual emotional connection is damaging to that false image
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 11:59 PM
-5

Correct answer, someone using those words gives away a lot of information on themselves they are probably not aware of
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 11:56 PM
6

That’s what everything comes down too. None of this matters for Chad, he can will treat them lien shot and they’ll give him everything they have. What women say? That’s the requirements for the men they settle with
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 09:48 PM
1

I can understand. I’m not an incel, and some of the stuff here is just far out there and makes no sense to me
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 04:26 PM
1

Is this some weird dig at Indian folks?
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 04:25 PM
8

Stirrring shit was kinda his job haha
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 04:24 PM
1

They’re a great work out. I mostly do them and pull ups, keeps my scrawny self weirdly strong. Always shocks people
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 04:23 PM
10

I too get these ‘day in the life of a perpetually single woman’ things in my Instagram sometimes. Maybe because I’m divorced? But it’s hilarious, because it’s literally what you said, just perfectly normal girls looking for attention, who seem to still be getting fucked by chads, just can’t find one to commit
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 04:22 PM
3

Reddit struggles so much with the concept of probability vs possibility. They get wrong both ways too. It’s really weird
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 04:20 PM
2

/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 03:52 PM
1

I learned that the hard way
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 01:21 PM
1

You think height matters less on OLD than real life?
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:38 PM
1

Most men will be
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:20 PM
1

Err, I’m 5’10 and it works, just harder to be a ‘Chad’ But Chads are like the financial 1%. I’m never going to have their money or lifestyle, but I can do okay for myself
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:16 PM
1

All four of my relationships I was asked out, I feel it’s a pretty decent success rate to convert into commitment
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:14 PM
2

Yeah, self improvement is it’s own reward, and also the best thing one can do if they want a gf as a side effect
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 11:38 AM
3

Exactly. Reproduction is all about passing g genetics on. It makes all the Ames for it to be based entirely on genetic qualities.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 11:35 AM
1

I dunno, India seems to manage
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 03:34 AM
2

There was something about a girl with a good looking BF making a video about how hot he was, and everyone her called her ugly. She was perfectly cute, guys here have some really weird standards
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 03:28 AM
1

You can still then poor and virgin
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:59 AM
1

Probably even more likely than pre 35
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:52 AM
1

From my social circle, the men love their gfs, marriage makes gfs happy, and they understand gf will eventually leave if they don’t propose
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:51 AM
1

So you agree with the topic now. Guess you understand your idea is bad. Id suggest you not, but not for you sake, but for whatever poor sod you can wreck because you became unhappy. You clearly have no self awareness
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:47 AM
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And the reason has nothing to do with anything you said. It might actually make it worse. You’re arguing an incredibly stupid point that something that has a massive failure rate has a simple solution. And it’s not even a. Good solution
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:43 AM
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Yes, if there was assets involved. Plenty of people get divorced with no children or assets, so financially, nothing can change as they have nothing. Is that your point? That’s an awful point
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:38 AM
1

Haha, okay. You agree. You have zero control that. Your wife. can get unhappy for literally no reason, and statistically will. All those things you said have zero to do with happiness. Someone can do literally all of it, and it has no impact. It wasn’t even part of your original point. You added it because you doubled down on something t really dumb
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:37 AM
1

No. Don’t think I would. I’ve worked enough years as a literal divorce attorney to have idiots on Reddit slam their head into a wall over the dumbest thing’s possible. I helped make sure it was profitable as it could be. You can slam your head on your own.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:35 AM
1

Well, overwhelmingly a risk for one partner. One is 4x as likely to initiate, and more likely to get more out of it. It’s a bad point
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:27 AM
2

But they do. Nothing you mentioned stops a divorce. I’ve seen plenty of marriages with all of the above end because a wife got bored
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:26 AM
1

Indeed. And the spark is biology based and ‘irrational’ but society has a hard time accepting that
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 01:28 AM
1

Oh, yeah, I’d you want kids, you have to take the risk. But it’s disingenuous to act like it’s not a serious risk getting married. It’s quite literally outside the husbands control to guarantee success. It’s more a ‘you can avoid ending it on your end’
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 01:00 AM
1

They pair off as you get older, so need to start early. Can still get divorced for no reason, but best odds are early
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:59 AM
1

Depends. Married for one years, divorced now. My life is way ‘easier’ single. Happier? Not really. But it’s damn easy
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:57 AM
2

Wish this was true. Women frequently lose sexual attraction regardless. As that drops, so does marital satisfaction. As that drops, divorce rates go up. A lot of ‘innocent’ activities become high risk in thst situation. I’ve worked domestic law for 3 years, had friends and family divorce, and been divorced myself. Sometimes someone just makes a literal snap decision to burn it all down
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:56 AM
1

That’s not awful, at least. About 20 lbs lost and you’ll be fine
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:53 AM
2

This. You get way more leeway on height in person than on apps. It still sucks, of course, but at least you have a chance
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:51 AM
5

Pretty sure criminals more likely to be fathers than the general population
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:50 AM
3

Haha, yes, I’ve literally been called in incel telling a story from my 9 year marriage
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:48 AM
1

All the time. My friends do it too to hit guys they see…well anywhere. They do it too each other. Like, a lawyer will literally go to the back and gush about a hit client to the paralegals
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:47 AM
1

Hmm, also, my friends send their kids to pre school stating about 2.5, so they have that time frrr as wrll
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 08:58 PM
2

Definitely. And a women in they state is probably not looking to cheat…:but it’s very vulnerable to a man coming onto her. Which men will do if she’s alone
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 03:18 PM
1

Friends, family, and money. Like, most of my friends have ‘sleepovers’ where the kids stay with grandparents on Saturday. Friends, like me, who will help out. Money, so maids and Nannie’s come in during the day
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 03:17 PM
1

Can also be too low if you are a guy. But hopefully you met the perfect girl before with all those ones you were sleeping with
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 01:39 PM
5

That’s what my ex did to me on our first date, haha. Risky strategy, as it won’t do anything to get a Chad to commit
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 01:39 PM
1

Kids that bad? Guess my friends hide it well. But they do have a good support system. Heck, one of them I babysit every Tuesday so they can have a date night
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 01:36 PM
3

The study I read said women tend to also have a looser definition for cheating. Like, a blow job at a bachelorette party doesn’t count. Or if they had mentally broken up, and ended relationship after, it doesn’t count. These are two real life examples for me
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 01:34 PM
1

Well, you are rude and wrong. I can tell you don’t, which is why you act like such an idiot. It’s like the North East be the south. The more you know the more you understand. Make an argument, or keep being pathetic
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 01:10 PM
1

None of the women I know. And if they haven’t, then they shouldn’t care.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 11:36 AM
3

I question unhappy women cheating, what I’ve seen in my professional and personal life is a happy wife cheat, be unable to face accountability for the act, and rewrite her history that she was never happy.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 10:50 AM
3

I’m in that stage of life right now, so see it in my friends. Kids are rough. Some handle it well, but others it’s been a real challenge. I baby sit my best friends kid one event a week, and that’s a challenge enough
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 10:21 AM
2

Sure they do. That’s how they got that high body count. Chad sees them as less than this guy asking body count. She still fucks Chad, because she’s attractive. It’s nothing you said, just the old Rule 1, Rule 2
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 09:59 AM
1

Definitely. Was a study with mothers picking guys out for daughters, and they’d still prefer attractive loser over ugly successful guy
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 09:58 AM
2

Oh, I agree. Studies just back up that it’s not just this women. Wives are going to lose attraction to their husbands over time. Doesn’t mean they will actively go try and cheat, but women really only leave a relationship for new dick. Even if it’s just knowing she can get new dick from the thirsty men around her, that can be enough. But putting a women in this situation, in literally a different country? I’ve lived in military towns. I know how that goes
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 09:55 AM
4

Doubtful, these behaviors are biological. Maybe previous societies were set up in ways that didn’t enable said biology so easy, I guess, but the women were the same
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 09:51 AM
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It’s not even just her, it’s very typical thing to do when away from husband for that long
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 09:51 AM
4

Kids. Plus they love their woman and she wants to get married so he does it to make her happy because that makes him happy
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 03:17 AM
2

Bro’s ‘slip up’ was letting his wife out of his sight for more than week. That’s a recipe for cheating
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 02:47 AM
1

Some literally arbitrarily lose attraction almost every time. It’s a scientific fact. The why? Debatable. That it happens is not
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 02:46 AM
2

Yup. I fully agree, distance is poison. People will cheat the easier it is to cheat. I’ve friends who’ve cheated on bachelors parties that haven’t before or since, and probably never would have if they weren’t in that environment. The businessman on the road is far more likely to cheat than the husband home every night
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 02:45 AM
3

Chads do they. Once again, this is the pill’s core. Chad does crap, non chads face the consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 02:23 AM
5

https://hackspirit.com/infidelity-statistics/ Very big variation. Also studies showing honesty is lacking on this topic in surveys, so even those aren’t trustworthy. But it’s doubtful people lie and say they cheat, so number swould higher
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 02:03 AM
2

They probably want to, and do when they can, but probability is much lower just due to massively lower opportunity
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 12:10 AM
2

Stats show even Chad can’t keep women from losing interest, he can just compensate by finding a new woman to get the short term tingles brain short circuit
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 12:10 AM
4

The more I’ve dealt with women, I realize they’re driven by tingles for anything involving a relationship. That’s all that matters, is the tingles
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 12:09 AM
4

Well, almost half of marriages do have at least one party cheat, and those stats are probably under reported. But yeah, guys don’t leave when they cheat. Women do leave when they cheat. And cheating stats are I increasingly showing both do it at a similar rat For the above situation, soldiers often cheat when away, but plan on coming home. Women cheat while they’re away, and plan on ending it
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 12:07 AM
3

For men, the lower divorce for education is balanced by of those divorces, a higher % is women leaving. So, bit of a wash for men. But yeah, it’s better than even odds you won’t divorce. Granted, awful when it happens, but the alternative is solitude
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 12:06 AM
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I worked with some women at times with just us 2 in the office. The sorta of things they share once they’re comfortable is crazy. Like, leaving a BF to go travel and fuck around because BF ‘isn’t ready to be serious’ the. A year later when he reaches out after getting established getting back with him and not telling him what she was doing because it would ‘break his heart’
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 11:32 PM
1

Basically happened. Six months after marriage, sex started to slow down. Corresponded with her quitting her job die nervous break down, me getting laid off, and is moving to a small city for my new job. A year there, and it basically stopped. Next 18 months were essentially a dead bedroom. Moved back to big city, sex started to pick back up. A year in, was making great money, and the next two years sex was about 2/3rd back to where it was, BJs included, but never that dating or nearly ex level a…
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 11:09 PM
2

Is ridiculous we need to ‘prove’ that
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 09:10 PM
8

Pretty typical behavior when a wife is away from husband for time once they’ve been married a few years. Women lose attraction over time, and it’s easy if you get even 2+ weeks around a guy in another country
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 09:09 PM
10

I’ve lived it. It ain’t fun. Except we didn’t try years of fixing, was an overnight ‘this is great, I love you can’t wait to see you again!’ To ‘I don’t want to come home’
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 09:08 PM
3

Definitely a suspicion I’ve had since everything went down
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 08:55 PM
1

Well. It’s a probability thing. Of course the possibility exists
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 06:44 PM
1

Men knows it triggers women, so they ask around, not directly. Trust me, they care. Men just know to lie to women
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 05:19 PM
1

One failed LTR relationship, even if only other partner, almost doubled divorce rates. They both hurt bad.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 05:18 PM
4

Yup, it’s a super steep drop from 0-1, about half that from 1-3, about 1/3rd that from 4-6, then very small from that point on. Study stopped at 10 though, so maybe 100 is waaaay worse than 12
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 05:17 PM
5

I e literally never had a women be honest about it. Even my friends lie, and I get it corrected by other sources. Women know how much sexual history says about them. It says more than anything, which is why they lie
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 05:15 PM
2

Oh, we have plenty who come here and repeat. I’m not sure they even realize it. Evolution has done some serious work I guess
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 05:14 PM
4

Oh, that, or blame the man for marrying her, so he deserves it. But for some reason that excuse doesn’t work when they marry bad men. I’ve never seen a woman actually admit she did anything wrong ina divorce, and it literally was my job for over 3 years
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 04:01 PM
20

This is part of the core of ‘pill’ stuff. Women reward Chads for their bad behavior, and then blame men who did nothing for the Chads behavior. Then they go back to Chad and keep on repeating
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 03:58 PM
1

I think it’s basically 4chan style fun trolling. Is that still a thing? In old
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 02:54 AM
2

Well, nice troll I guess. But really, 5’10 is fine for real life. Will you be a Chad? Probably not. Are you ever going to be some rich dude who rides yachts and pay no taxes? Nah, probably not. But you can still have a fine life. Same for dating
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 02:53 AM
3

5’10 here. I’m told in closings I look like this guy: https://www.koimoi.com/television/did-you-know-money-heist-fame-alvaro-morte-believed-hed-die-during-cancer-treatment-thought-my-leg-was-cut/amp/ So not particularly good looking
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 02:44 AM
2

I think lying is fine, face to face for polite reasons. Lying about general human behavior, no
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 02:41 AM
4

Well, it’s supposed to be that way, and it’s not supposed to be fair. The only annoying thing is folks pretending it is
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 02:28 AM
5

Eh, not really. Their will always, always be a man to simp for a women. There is no wall, just different men who will commit.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 02:27 AM
1

You are calling Justin Tim relate a beta. This explains quite a bit. And no, women say these things, but literally nothing has ever shown that. Not studies, nor lived experiences. This the whole point. Literally can’t even acknowledge truth. And you can
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 12:04 AM
2

Eh, male slut isn’t much of a thing. And I have to laugh and laugh over that last part l. So far removed from reality
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:22 PM
1

Definitely did. But that’s what Chad wanted to move in with. Not the other of dozen women he pumped and dump
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:00 PM
3

Oh, no, essentially ex wife now. Divorce should be finalized before end of the year
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 09:43 PM
4

I should’ve tried that. Doing even more to make her life easier had the opposite effect to the point she said ‘I cheated on you because you did everything for me and it made me feel pressured and useless’
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 09:13 PM
13

Oh, definitely. The stats show all wives lose attraction for their husbands. Chads included. Chads strength isn’t in keeping women, it’s in being able to keep finding new ones. Something about them gives them the tingles, but those always fade
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 08:51 PM
6

Haha, I’ll never know the truth, I guess. My take has been she was crushing on me for almost a year, was more in love with her image of me than me, and before that wore off to my reality, we were engaged, which puts another set of blinders in her. It was about 18 months after marriage the sex really slowed down, which is when I think she realized there wasn’t another level to go. But it picked back up again when I moved and started making great money 2 years later, so who knows. But yeah, fuck e…
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 08:41 PM
9

Worked for my ex. Definitely came on strong and fast in a way I had never had a women treat me, and definitely got me hooked and her married 2 years later. Marriage wasn’t the same treatment, haha
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 08:33 PM
5

Hmm, conflating ‘bad boys’ with ball men is sorta where this whole pill thing comes from
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 07:47 PM
1

Hmm, maybe just where I live, but I almost never see Indian women with white men.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 07:31 PM
1

Strange, haha. I’ve never been to the UK, only seen our local indie and who are well, it’s a tech town. They’re what you expect
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 06:55 PM
1

Weird, wonder what the difference is. I’ve dated and know where to find Asian women, but I honestly have no clue where to meet Indian women, even though we live in a city with a ton of tech jobs and we have a pretty big population
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 06:46 PM
2

I do 30 min of cardio in the morning before work, and an hour of working out at night. 2 mornings rowing, two morning elliptical, two mornings jogging 2 nights is pull/core, two nights push/legs, two nights high intensity running. On Sunday I easy run a half marathon. Definitely nothing to get jacked, was training I did to join Marines when I had a fever dream after my divorce. I passed OCS, for what it’s worth, but it’s mostly endurance training
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 06:42 PM
2

Oh, I know Chads do, but it’s probability you worry about, not possibility. My Chad friend caught feelings for a girl, and was broken up for a good month after he had to break up with her because she wouldn’t stop doing coke. He had pumped and dumped dozens of better women prior to her. And he’s done dozens better since her. That’s what we’re talking about
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 06:34 PM
1

Definitely has issues. Married a barista, I enjoyed our 9 years together, but ended suddenly and badly, lost most my money, and at times I wonder if just being alone the entire time woulda been better
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 06:27 PM
1

Ahead of the times
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 06:26 PM
1

More to say a woman can treat you like that, even as a non Chad. The difference is, it won’t be many women. Maybe just that one. And it won’t last. Chad can just go get it from another women
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 05:59 PM
7

Nah, you wish you were born a Chad. You don’t grovel and work the
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 05:57 PM
7

Yup. All the ‘rules’ are die the non Chads, and the Chads get the ‘rewards’ implied. It’s pretty much at the core of all this pill crap
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 05:57 PM
6

Agreed. The amount of shit I had to just tank as a husband was ridiculous to the minor inconvenience that sent my ex wife over the edge
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:39 PM
1

And even if you find women young, divorce can put you right back in this spot, minus your money.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:31 PM
3

Exactly. And it takes up a ton of time and forces you into less than ideal locations as you can’t have the dumb beasts just anywhere
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:29 PM
-2

I don’t know if that’s what made her do it, it was like 10 years later. But she definitely had a bad time as a manlet
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:26 PM
4

My sister is a horse girl. So smart to to stay away from horse girls
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:25 PM
1

Men may like to sleep around, but it’s usually not because they lose interest in their partners. At the least, husbands rarely lose attraction to their wives, while the opposite happens for wives. Probably also why each responds differently when they cheat
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:14 PM
1

Yup, it’s fine for folks to have whatever standards they want. Just ignore and move on. Or take a shot if you want, said standard don’t apply to Chads
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:12 PM
0

No one should want fat guys
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:11 PM
1

You actually want horse girls?
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:10 PM
2

Kids at least is super valid
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:10 PM
1

As a former prosecutor, I’ve been tagged by some women as ACAB before, haha. One of them is now some live in whore to a married couple, so guess she just saved me sometime
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:09 PM
1

At the least I had to inflate my numbers post college. 2 was apparently too low
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:06 PM
3

If a girl whose not fat at all and has a decent figure is a 4, that means the majority of American women must be 2s or something
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 01:19 PM
3

You think she is gutter standards? Are we like women chasing chads here?
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:57 PM
13

Its like when they tell you to go walk into random places and give a firm hand shake to get a job
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:51 PM
1

I’ve seen lazy; apparently a lot of my friends thought my ex was lazy because didn’t work but didn’t say anything until she cheated and left. Or they’re just trying to trash talk to make me feel better. Wimp, wuss, etc? Full agree, never seen.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:50 PM
4

I hadn’t see any version ‘-cel’ outside incel other than here
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:45 PM
10

Women do have an issue of understanding the reality men face. I’ll always remember the undercover man study, where she was shocked how her ‘fellow’ women treated her when they thought she was a man
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:42 PM
1

So MGTOW?
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:40 PM
3

That is the crux of this ‘pill’ thing. The top reap the benefits of their immortality, and the bottom feel the consequences, despite not doing anything
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:38 PM
3

I will say men understand the ‘kindness’ of Chad. We just know it’s fake to fuck you. And that even when flat out told that’s what it is, it gets ignored. Then we get to listen late night rants after, surprise, it was all fake to fuck you
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 08:29 AM
1

Okay? I don’t think that has anything to do with anything I said, or even what you said, just kinda random. I mean, I don’t disagree, but not sure why you’re bringing it up
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 08:26 AM
2

What are you even talking about? Are you just…saying random stuff?
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 08:25 AM
2

Well, these ‘scales’ aren’t really…real, so hard to give a number here that will have any meaning. But I guess what would you call a ‘normal’ dating life? If you mean ‘Chad’ as normal, well, like 5% of men if tinder is anything to go by are ‘Chad’, so I’d say a 9.5
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 08:24 AM
1

Like, say 133k Asian women married out, 66k Asian dudes married out. So….Asian men are marrying white women, similar to Asian women marrying white men. Sure, it’s twice as many, but that’s not ‘no hope, woe is me’
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 07:36 AM
1

I’m not sure where you got ‘owe’ from a observation. At least control what you can
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 07:34 AM
-2

I don’t think that’s what a cope is. Maybe it’s a ‘gigacopemaxx’
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 07:33 AM
1

Hopefully the case. I’ve had friends we literally told them he’s losing and doesn’t want a relationship, but the still become his personal white for a few months then complain to us after. It’s tiring
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 03:34 AM
1

Definitely. Women file for 4/5 divorces, but every women says that is all the husbands fault. And the 1/5 time the husband files? Still his fault. It’s just not worth talking to people who deny basic logic and reality
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 03:10 AM
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Yup, I have some friend’s currently thrilled to be a ‘buxx’ after being virgins till their 30s. Of course, could get divorced in their 40s and lose it all, and maybe have regrets
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 03:02 AM
3

Well, one’s a GF, the others a wife of many years. One tends to turn into the other over time
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:50 AM
2

Are…you serious? Even the most curated stats have it at like 31%, and that’s just for under 29, and has serious issues with the stats
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:48 AM
2

Hmm…good question
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:46 AM
11

Most women I know don’t think of it all. Most people in general don’t think much beyond their immediate social circle
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:48 PM
6

I get that too. Or just told my life experience doesn’t matter, even when I see it repeated over and over. I don’t think middle class southern metro behavior is so different from the norm
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:39 PM
4

I think it’s supposed to be hyperbole. A more measured take would be ‘5’6 balding programmer in decent shape gets cute girlfriend’
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:38 PM
2

Also sometimes stats aren’t applicable for your situation, and your anecdotal evidence is much more useful because it literally draws from your life. So someone on a college campus will get very different average behavior than a nationwide survey tells
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:36 PM
5

Hmm, in general, yes, but more because everyone as you get older will already have been in many relationships. They all take something from you
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:29 PM
2

Folks have some weird standards I guess
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:26 PM
5

I really am not seeing why everyone is saying she’s so ugly. She looks cute enough to me
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:17 PM
2

Probably nothing. I honestly don’t pay attention enough to social media enough to know if that’s just standard GF behavior with a new BF. Maybe someone younger here can fill us in
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:08 PM
2

It’s getting better every year, at least
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:03 PM
2

Yeah, guy doesn’t look as good as folks here are acting, and the girl is perfectly cute enough.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:02 PM
6

Hmm….now that you mention it, my ex posted a lot of Instagram stuff like that when we were dating. The ‘look how good my bf looks’ type stuff. So maybe a sign of something going bad for him in the future?
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:01 PM
2

Err, most is probably overstating it, but 15% or so? Yeah, I can see it
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 10:58 PM
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She’s also cute, I dunno what folks are hating on her so much for
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 10:30 PM
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That’s a 5.5? She’s pretty cute
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 10:29 PM
7

I’ve watch thst show. All those people are in relationships, haha
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 10:28 PM
7

Nope. Not even a bit. Too nice actually, which helps women along to said next dick.That’s, uh been the behavior of every women I know when they leave a relationship. I have never know in all my years a women to chose to end a relationship and not be with another dick for 6 months. Heck, 3 months probably but most women aren’t honest early on I just know the most of my sister, because well, my sister. Known her the longest. But uh, guess good to know typical women relationship behaviors is consid…
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 10:20 PM
4

Maybe! It’s been literally the case for hundreds of times for women in my life. It’s definitely the probable reason, enough to not worry about alternatives greatly. I don’t mean hundred of women exactly, to clarify. Like, my sister has done that for over a dozen guys
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 10:10 PM
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Basically what it comes down too. She wanted to be fucked by a different dick. It’s really what it comes down to everytime a women leaves. Other things may push her that direction, but she won’t leave until she she has that other dick lined up, or a plan to get one
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 08:49 PM
7

Haha, lemme find a cut and paste related quick: My wife was going back to Korea to see her family before we started our family, as she hadn’t been back in 10 years. She said she was scared the day before she left, as she had never been away from me since we got married. At this point, she had zero signs of adultery. I’ve read a lot about it since. Well, two weeks into her solo trip, she goes out with her girl friends to a bar, a group of guys goes and starts hanging out, and she leaves the bar t…
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 08:48 PM
5

Yup. Unlike me though, they can easily find another woman who treats them like that. They frequently have multiple at the same time
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 06:42 PM
3

Haha, I meant more you can want to bang a girl not want to hang with her
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 06:03 PM
5

Decrease, honestly. Asian men are seen way better in society now then when I started going out with my Korean ex wife in 2013. Last 10 years have been a lot of progress for Asian masculinity
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 05:51 PM
2

Hmm, definitely not. There’s a difference between wanting to bang someone, and someone being a fun hang. That said, they will mostly both be present, and the ‘I’ll bang you’ runs like a background app on a phone. It’s literally going on, denying it is useless, and counterproductive, really. Up to you what’s important in your life, but if your in a relationship and spending alone time with another man, you are 100% hurting your relationship. You may think the harm is small and worth the friendshi…
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 04:39 PM
0

I will say, I married cute barista over the many fellow lawyers I work with, so that’s totally true
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 04:35 PM
4

It’s like a 2:1 ratio, so it’s not like it’s over for Asian men. I mean, yeah, women do it twice as often but still plenty out there
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 04:24 PM
6

Yup. I’m no Chad, but my ex wife saw me like this for years. Sad knowing won’t find someone like her again
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 04:23 PM
13

Yup. I’ve seen it with my Chad friends. My ex wife was like that for me as well at the start. It won’t last forever, of course. But you need to start there, as it’s going to fall down regardless, so you need room to fall
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 04:23 PM
1

Does all of this help you? Haha
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 02:09 PM
13

Basically, it’s their way of coping
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 02:08 PM
2

Yup. It’s why divorced women have a lower suicide rate than single women. They feel a need to have that box checked, not the thing itself. Different for men
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 02:00 PM
3

I live in a Southern US Metro, so we only have about 5% Asian population, and they’re mostly religious. So, while interracial isn’t common here, maybe if those men complaining are on the West Coast or something it’s different. But their problem is probably less being Asian, and more just being ugly. Especially with K-pop’s influence, good looking Asian men are doing pretty well these days
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 01:59 PM
1

This. Women come after the rest of you is stable
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 01:51 PM
1

I’ll need to check, but it’s well Over 80% are moms
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 01:44 PM
2

Yup, the number of women who are mothers hasn’t changed much. How many children per women has
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 01:44 PM
2

I guess, I’m white but I don’t consider my black pulled or anything
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 01:38 PM
2

I was married to a Korean for 9 years, spent a fair bit of time around Asians, and really, interracial was still very low. Pretty sure even OLD stars show Asian women prefer Asian guys, and that’s just pure ‘hotness I wanna bang’ scale. Involve culture, community, relatives, and just who you interact with on a daily basis, and it’s no surprise
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 01:37 PM
3

Well, sounds you figured it out. Do what makes you happy, and being alone isn’t the worst thing in the world
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 01:35 PM
1

I guess so, makes in general do the ‘mating dance’ which isn’t that basically romance? Women are more the receiving of romance
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:27 PM
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I’ve read some Psychological articles stating that. And some blogs talking about how the man needs to love his wife more than she loves him for a long lasting marriage, so maybe some evolutionary aspects
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:27 PM
1

It perfectly is. Many who have gotten burned hard by women find it better to just be alone
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 01:21 PM
6

I think the first part is he is making the fallacy of letting perfection be the enemy of good. For the second one, he’s just repeating purple nonsense like like don’t matter, just have game
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 12:37 PM
6

Literally happened to me. 9 years, gone overnight, after having overseas affairs, got a new job and was swarmed by men at work and found a new husband to be in weeks
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 12:28 PM
6

For all the women on other subs complaining about marriage, the husbands in my social group by far do the lions share of household duties. They act like getting married makes them a slave, but at least for millennial wives in a southern metro, they’re all very lazy. Stats seem to back that up too, putting younger husbands as doing more housework than wives now
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 12:27 PM
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It’s more because good people get married, so the longer you wait the less options you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:31 AM
2

It is easier to deny things that make you uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:28 AM
3

You don’t waste your time trying to have a relationship with women who aren’t attracted to you
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 01:59 AM
3

I’m no Chad, but I’ve been asked out for all my 4 relationships. Sometimes you can be someone’s type
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 12:55 AM
6

I’ve literally saw this happen to my Chad friends at our other Chad buddies wedding. Picked up 3 women, all came onto him, one with literally a bridesmaid on his arm at the bar, and both were fine with it. We even told the bridesmaid he was going to do that, and she didn’t believe us and spent two months fucking him before she couldn’t deny it
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 12:54 AM
1

To be fair, men lie to sleep with women as their default. Women lying back to men so they will be in a relationship and not pump and dump is FairPlay
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:34 AM
1

I think the point is, if men did care about those, voicing that concern would be shamed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:33 AM
3

Exactly, that’s why all men say multiple what you do know by 3, as all women lie about their sexual history, because they intrinsically know how much it says about them, and it’s not good
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:32 AM
3

Haha, bout to say, does OP mean we need more gay men? Though people on here love stats, and gay men are slaying those
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:24 AM
2

My hairdresser tells me sordid tales everytime I go in for a cut
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 12:00 AM
7

One look at sex stats for gay men shows women are the ones bottle necking sex, haha
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 11:46 PM
2

Well, once you accept you don’t have to be with a woman to have an enjoyable life, that’s about it. Maybe looking into MGTOW? I dunno about it, but it sounds like a bunch of guys who’d rather have no women in their lived
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 11:45 PM
1

Not having a romantic partner isn’t the end of a decent life.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 11:21 PM
1

I guess, haha. Attraction is necessary, and maybe it’s easier to make a Chad a non-loser than it is to make a beta provider attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:19 PM
5

I think sometimes they realize they’ve run out of time and are ‘stuck’ without whatever musical dick they’re currently sitting on, and stay there and just resent them
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 10:18 PM
3

Most the stuff folks say on the internet they won’t do irl, haha
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 09:03 PM
3

So long as that’s what you’re looking for, definitely. Of course, most the trauma comes from expecting more than a fun fuck. And they also lie, even if they do that, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 09:03 PM
3

Yup. They very much explains the understanding I’ve come too. It is sad knowing you can really be ‘you’ without damaging the relationship
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 09:01 PM
8

It used to happen in some other Reddit’s, was nicknamed ‘The Mean Girls Club’ who would follow posters around being generally deranged and unhinged
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 07:01 PM
2

Or it really is a hormonal fueled blindside, and people justify because they can’t see them selves as being that dumb and awful a person
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 07:00 PM
2

No, it’s that she (and women in general) say they want ‘X’. Friends say, oh, he has ‘X’, you should go out! But they don’t really want X. Which is fine l, but folks also get upset if you just properly diagnose and dismiss such statements. And I literally said the opposite, that my ex wife was attracted, so I know what the feels like. So, basically. You’re so off I’m not sure you’re responding to the right post
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 06:59 PM
2

Men too, it’s just a acknowledged by society
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:55 PM
3

Chads usually aren’t even ‘worth it’ they just have characteristics that give women tingles. All of my ‘Chad’ friends are pretty awful husband material
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:54 PM
10

Hmm, so the best guys in dating apps top out at ‘Netflix and chill?’ That gets old pretty fast
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:53 PM
3

Tingles drive it all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:52 PM
1

I think it’s a better philosophy once in an established relationship. Or for coping with the lack of one
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:49 PM
0

Some people are into CBT. I won’t shame em
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 06:35 PM
1

Hmm, mental illness and promiscuous past? I looked past those and got burned reeeaaaal hard
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:33 PM
4

Definitely. I believe some one honestly don’t break their rules and becomes sluts for Chad. However, every single women will lie about it. So you can never now if she’s actually a ‘good girl’ or if she is just buxxing you if she doesn’t want to have sex right away. Solution? Just assume they’re all sluts for Chad, and if they don’t want you right away, they don’t want you. Game theory at the corr
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 04:28 PM
0

Huh, is that so common even in the States? But I guess the Indians ‘solved’ the blackpill, as I always hear how they have it worse, genewise
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 03:59 PM
3

To be generous, might have thought she’d feel something when seeing him in person, saw him, didn’t, but at that point, kinda too late to back out so you make polite small talk until time to leave. Has happened to me. Part of dating for most guys, but posting about it online as if the guys a loser is pretty awful
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:54 PM
3

Kinda the point of mating, haha
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:53 PM
3

This. One thing I’ve learned is if she doesn’t want you physically on the first date, she’s not into you. She won’t grow into being attracted, it’s there or it’s not.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:53 PM
3

Hmm, all four of my relationships, I was the one asked out. Anytime I’ve done the asking, it’s been a clear non starter and fizzles early. But yeah, you don’t ‘think’ a date went well. Either she wanted too jump your bones or actually did, or it didn’t go well. Attraction isn’t going to build up over more dates, it’s there or it’s not
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:52 PM
7

That’s been my experience. And it’s not told to us at all. I wouldn’t understand if I didn’t have Chad friends treated like that, and later my ex wife who treated me like that. She was my 4th relationship, and it’s completely eye opening how different a women treats if her switch is flipped for you. Edit to add I agree, attraction for women will only go down over time, not up. It’s another reason you nah e to be with a women who starts out infatuated, as it’s going to go down over time and you n…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:46 PM
3

Used to be used as punishment, but Supreme Court through a hissy fit
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:23 PM
1

They’re also grifting for moneu
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:04 PM
3

Oh yeah, I agree. And as someone who had a marriage end over stuff like that, I can tell you that actually means they just wanted to have sex with someone else. Now, maybe that ‘inconsequential’ stuff put them in the mindset, like ‘oh, he never travels when I want!’ so that when random thirsty guy takes a shot, they are more open to it, and they crest some mental image that random thirsty guy would travel or whatever, but don’t mistake it, it’s ultimately the wanting another dick that causes the…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:56 PM
1

Hmm, some women don’t do casual sex. They may do ‘serial monogamy’ but I’d they’re sleeping with you, even quickly, they feel it’s for a relationship.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:51 PM
1

I guess is it love if it can end at anytime, for no ‘reason’? Does it erase the years of love when it ends because she saw some Instagram reel or something similar pathetic that none the less causes her to end it?
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:48 PM
3

Might as well just pretend love doesn’t matter for a relationship if the definition is so narrow. Something so rare one can safely ignore
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:46 PM
11

About sums up the core of the topic, the rest is just the same impetus spilling over a more complex society
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:45 PM
1

I have two Asian law school friends who did the betabux thing in their mid 30s. I mean, it might not be that, but it looks like it from the outside. Plus, with kpops growing influence, it’s definitely making Asian men more popular in the younger crowd
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:42 PM
1

Hmm, you think? I know in the first one, late 2000’s, it showed more interest in white men, but the one 10 years later showed a decreasing interest in white men, particularly, Asian women had gone from preferring white men to Asian men, to preferring asian men about 40% more than white men. It was still the largest out group preference, and overall, white men were more preferred, but it was like, game over man numbers or anything
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:40 PM
4

That is my fear on the subject, but perhaps even if that does dawn on them, it will have been a good experience at least, compare to staying FA their entire life? Make them realize there are worse fates?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:34 PM
3

You didn’t call anything out, you said something with no backing, like you did again. You literally don’t know a single one of these people, or their lives. Try not to be an idiot. A struggle, I know. But you’re in the right spot for your kind
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:31 PM
1

Best way to fight racism is be more racist. It’s like fire. You fight fire with fire. You fight everything with fire.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 04:02 AM
3

True, I’ve never seen one with a non Indian woman. And I only know if one Indian woman married to a white man, so some strong in group preferences there
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 03:54 AM
0

Eh, upper middle class, like, more than 100k, less than 200k a year.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 03:53 AM
1

I’ve not seen that borne out in my metro, or in data at large.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 03:07 AM
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I deal mostly with Indian clients, almost every single one is married, so something is clicking for them.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 03:06 AM
2

Well, blaming Chads, not the society in this thread, and not all Chads abuse it, but most do. I’d say if positions were swapped, at least the same percentage would do the same
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 02:58 AM
6

Yeah, because they have the product everyone wants
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 02:48 AM
1

I think they work in the loneliness part. There is life without romance. Maybe not the life you want, but it doesn’t have to be awful
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 02:29 AM
4

I mean, folks can have whatever standards they want. If she’s as crap as you say, the market will bear that out
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 02:15 AM
1

Exactly. There’s a reason all politicians are corrupt. It’s just what humans do in that position
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 02:13 AM
9

She’d bring him a quarter pounder on the way over to his place is more like it
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 09:43 PM
1

Every single relationship in my social circle, the impetus for marriage came from the women. Every single one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:42 PM
-4

That explains a lot
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 09:38 PM
2

The courts gave her all my stuff though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:38 PM
2

I have one friend doing that….and she still goes back for Chad dick, just accepted that’s all she’s getting
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 08:32 PM
6

Thirsty, I guess
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 08:28 PM
-1

You go to a nice Asian restaurant that’s not a chain, some local French restaurants, etc. it’s really not much more expensive than Cheesecake Factory, just had a different image. And image is very important to women
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 08:27 PM
1

Are…are you serious? Your surprised broke men make bad decisions? That’s…that’s what you’re going with?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:24 PM
1

Someone’s gotta be the 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:20 PM
-3

If going to a restaurant makes you broke, you need to work on that.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 08:20 PM
4

Haha, I wonder. I was ‘happy’ to be alone before. Know that I know what love really feels like, that old life feels like a joke. Ignorance is bliss, I guess
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 08:19 PM
3

It’s a self defense mechanism, like most of the ‘blue pill’ people don’t like feeling hopeless, or want to feel they succeed because they deserved it, and other who didn’t is because they failed. The fact it’s luck, ie factors outside our control, makes people uncomfortable. But divorce happens more than 1/3 I’d the time. It’s hard to say that many people are losers
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:18 PM
1

You’re unhinged, as I never stated anything that you wanted about. If anything, it’s in line, but your autism is poorly controlled
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:16 PM
0

The links name tells all anyone needs to know about that, haha
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:28 PM
4

I have friends taking the betabux route, they’re happier than ForeverAlone right. Is, but I guess we’ll see how the years wear in them. But really, most of my social circle is in a ‘normal’ relationship which isn’t an ‘Alpha Fucks’ or ‘Betabux’ style. Typically normal guys who met someone after college, girl is really into them, they get married, have kids, and in mid 30s and stuff is creaking a bit but still decent
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:27 PM
2

Blackpill is realizing women won’t like you for things outside your control. Not whateve this fever dream is
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:22 PM
1

This place has real crazies
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:22 PM
6

This is also very true.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 06:36 PM
-10

Really, it’s just tier 3 chains. Lowest is fast food, next is ‘sit down’ like a poke place, then the chains like Outback. So, looks like women want a ‘real’ restaurant for a first date. Seems fair, I wouldn’t take a first date to any of these places
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 06:35 PM
-6

Therapy is a good idea. If you have insurance, maybe $25 an hour
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 06:25 PM
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