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| 172 | It bothers me how often men's mental/emotional views are ignored in the discussion of family labor | discussion | Old-Compote-9991 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/04/21 10:47 PM |
| 27 | The Role of Conservative Women in Stigmatizing the Male | discussion | Old-Compote-9991 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/21 08:44 AM |
| 22 | How Conservative Lawmakers Hurt Men | discussion | Old-Compote-9991 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/04/21 06:36 AM |
| 0 | "Man Up" is the N-Word for Men | social issues | Old-Compote-9991 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/21 04:15 PM |
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| 1 | Are you still boycotting Gillette?I've never used anything from them before? But I'm not even clear on what the issue with the ad was except it was cringe | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/06/21 07:58 PM |
| 1 | What's the difference between TERFs and mainstream feminists? TERFs dare to treat transwomen how (too many) mainstream feminists treat men.Okay, you'll need to give some examples as to how TERFs treat transwomen and how Feminists tend to argue against them. I'm not exactly sold on this take. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/06/21 12:40 AM |
| 7 | Conservative men honestly confuse meConservative men can be complete assholes but its less because they are men and more because they are conservative. Conservative women tend to have even more detrimental beliefs when it comes to gay men the gender binary beliefs. Their viewpoints of gender relationships is steeped in misogyny and misandry because it comes from the traditionalist view of how men relate to women and vice-versa. But frankly, he was always nasty. For years watching him speak made it seem glaring that all he believed… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/06/21 12:18 AM |
| 2 | The Role of Conservative Women in Stigmatizing the MaleExactly. Truly despise her beliefs around men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/05/21 03:28 AM |
| 0 | The Role of Conservative Women in Stigmatizing the MaleI don't think that's the point of the question: The question that measured gender binary beliefs didn't ask "Do you believe in a gender binary or not?" it asked how much participants agreed with the statement: "These days there is not enough respect for the natural divisions between the sexes." This means that you can believe in the gender binary and still score low on this "gender binary belief" rating. I can believe that men and women are different but feel like there is enough respect for nat… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/05/21 03:27 AM |
| 3 | The Role of Conservative Women in Stigmatizing the MaleIt don't think its the best worded, but I also think that it is still useful for discerning how someone relates to the "natural" divisions between the sexes. Depending on your answer, it does give insight to how important you think those divisions are. I want to be clear, the study is not saying: if you have strong "gender binary beliefs" you must hold anti-gay and trans prejudices. It is saying that there is a positive link (read association) between "gender binary beliefs" and anti-gay and ant… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/05/21 06:18 PM |
| 5 | The Role of Conservative Women in Stigmatizing the MaleThe researchers aren't sure but there is a clear association between anti-gay misandry and transphobia and conservative belief's especially among conservative women (where it is twice the strength of conservative men) | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/21 10:57 PM |
| 5 | The Role of Conservative Women in Stigmatizing the MaleBeing conservative automatically means bigotry? No, but if you are conservative its likely that you are also intolerant of gender noncomformity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/21 10:53 PM |
| 3 | The Role of Conservative Women in Stigmatizing the MaleParticipants indicated their endorsement of binary gender beliefs by rating the following item on a scale from 1 (strongly disagree) to 5 (strongly agree): “These days there is not enough respect for the natural divisions between the sexes.” Higher scores reflected stronger endorsement of a binary view of gender. Pulled directly from the study. While conservatives were not the only people to strongly agree with that statement, the study's focus was on conservative behavior. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/21 08:27 PM |
| 3 | The Role of Conservative Women in Stigmatizing the MaleNo, that's not what the study is suggesting at all. The conceptualization of gender binary can look different to different people, however the way conservatives conceptualize it is discriminatory towards the groups mentioned. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/21 07:23 PM |
| 3 | The Role of Conservative Women in Stigmatizing the MaleBut I must protest strongly against the attack on 'binary gender beliefs' that is brought along in the bargain, let alone to suggest all men are affected by this issue. Binary gender beliefs reflects how conservatives might think about gender. For example, a transgender person would not fit under the notion that you must identify as the gender that you were assigned at birth. (A notion that a lot of conservatives subscribe to). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/21 07:23 PM |
| 3 | The Role of Conservative Women in Stigmatizing the MaleYep, specifically conservative women (which there are a lot of in the US). I'm curious about what would happen if they did this study and focused in a minority population because minorities (and especially black people) are a lot more conservative than white people tend to me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/21 07:21 PM |
| 3 | The Role of Conservative Women in Stigmatizing the MaleYep, I feel you there. I think I've always had a better time opening up to other guys for that reason because the ones that I hung out with had no problem dealing with the issues. A lot of the conservative women in my life were tolerant of any inadequacy that I had, especially when it came to dating and my mother. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/21 07:20 PM |
| 28 | One of the "task groups" on National Organization for Men Against Sexism (largest male feminist group in the US) is "ending men's violence" !! why not ending all forms of domestic violence and focusing just on one type of domestic violence ?!Ugh, I wish we'd stop talking about this organization. Its not really that important nor do I think its an organization that is growing in influence. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/21 07:18 AM |
| 4 | This is a reply I gave to someone on this sub about conservative misandry, I thought it was pretty good so here it is in a postMale gender roles are misandristic in my opinion I'd be careful with a statement like that. Male gender roles aren't always (obviously) misandrist though they can be weaponized for misandry. E.g, believing that men should always try to protect their wives and children as a justification for the male-only draft or going to war in general. All of these things are indicative of societal norms that existed long before feminism, and they're all more widespread and normalized than feminist misandry. T… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/21 07:16 AM |
| 2 | Why would women rape less than men?I understand where you come from. Most guys if not all have a story of being sexually harassed/assault at a party, in college, when they were young etc by another woman. But we don't really see it as sexual assault because to get touched by a woman is "the ultimate prize" even if we're uncomfortable/feel violated. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/21 05:10 AM |
| 2 | Why would women rape less than men?That's a really good question. I think a lot of it has to do with the societal pressure on men not to report it. However, we can't count what doesn't go reported and if men don't come forward, then we won't know. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/21 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Feminism and anti MGM intactivismI support many women's right initiatives but I find feminism is wrought with inconsistencies, hypocrisy, and lacks accountability for it's more radical members. At the same time, I support many initiatives in the men's rights movement but find they spend far too much time and energy complaining about feminism instead of working on sociopolitical change to achieve the initiatives they want for men. I really hate this aspect of the MRM, its so focused on tackling feminists that it never sits to di… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/21 05:48 AM |
| 3 | Feminism and anti MGM intactivismThis is an amazing write-up and I think you hit the nail on the head here: 1 Feminism's prerogative is women's rights, not men's. They are under no obligation to take charge of progress for men. Feminism also deals with many issues besides genital mutilation. Banning MGM simply is not a priority for the movement. I think every time I read feminist literature, talk to feminists online, this is a re-occurring theme, men are simply not a priority for feminists, and feminists' perspectives are reall… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/21 05:45 AM |
| 1 | Victims Behind Bars: A Preliminary Study of Abuse During Juvenile Incarceration and Post-Release Social and Emotional FunctioningI really love this sub. Please keep posting articles like this! | /r/Male_Studies | 26/05/21 05:27 AM |
| 3 | Are we the main Men's Rights subreddit now? If that's the case, we need to be careful.I think we should certainly be careful. I try to be as careful as possible with everything that I say on this subreddit because in truth, criticizing trends in feminism from a non-feminist perspective tends to be considered hate by many left leaning people. I also think its important to realize that many of those who hate advocates for men are other men and it disturbs me the lengths that some men will go through to appear to take the moral high ground when it comes to denouncing/ignoring the re… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/05/21 12:29 AM |
| 4 | Why is men's reaction against misandry so feeble?Lots of reasons but they all boil down to the same thing: Men simply don't care about other men. Unlike women, Men lack a gender-consciousness that you might see more prevalent in women. Women tend to have more in-group bias than men, and often times, men like/attribute positive characteristics more often to women than to other men. Traditional notions of gender relationships reinforce the narrative that men are "monsters that need to be tamed by women" and that women "have a moral superiority c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/05/21 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Why would women rape less than men?I was speaking from a historical perception of rape. Typically, rape is seen as a crime that requires physical force and given that men are physically stronger than women (on average), the male offender/female victims narrative has stuck. It isn't until recently we started viewing intoxication, emotional abuse, and social coercion as "rape" strictly speaking. When we start paying attention to that, the historical narrative breaks down pretty rapidly as physical strength is no longer required in … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/05/21 12:13 AM |
| -3 | Why would women rape less than men?This link does a better job at explaining it than I can. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/05/21 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Why would women rape less than men?I am all for inclusion of female offenders. But even with the change in definition, there still is a slight gap between the number of male victims and female victims. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/05/21 12:08 AM |
| 5 | Why would women rape less than men?I'm not sure why, but Women's aggression tends to be less physical in nature and more social/relational. Rape is a pretty physical act that requires some force to enact and historically, men have had the physical force to overwhelm women more often than men. More recently, with the inclusion of terms like made-to-penetrate being considered rape, the numbers are a lot more equalized, though there are still more female victims of men than male victims of women. In the context of prisons: Among adu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/21 01:54 PM |
| -6 | Why would women rape less than men?Can we stop linking this article? Its full of misleading statistics on the subject. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/21 01:36 PM |
| -4 | Why would women rape less than men?The numbers do indicated a difference, if we define rape exclusively which many countries do. The gap narrows when we include "made-to-penetrate" and more inclusive terms, but in reality, there is still a gap. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/21 01:35 PM |
| -1 | Why would women rape less than men?Yeah take a look at the gilded comment. The information in that post is heavily misleading. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/21 01:34 PM |
| 2 | Are we the main Men's Rights subreddit now? If that's the case, we need to be careful.Its a bit disheartening, but I don't think this place will end up becoming like the MensRights subreddit group. Its a lot more wholesome, engaging and less women-blaming than the former group. Its actually pretty focused on real issues that men have institutionally and socially. Though I think the mod team could do better in taking a harsher stance against people who are pro-life/traditionalist on the subreddit. MensLib imo, is getting a lot better. Sure it brands itself as a feminist sub, but t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/21 01:32 PM |
| 5 | Internalised Misandry: What do you battle, and how do you battle it?I mean there are positions that offer a more passive role for straight men (cowgirl variants and types of doggy). But for the vast majority of sex, in my own experience, its not really sustainable and the other person would just get tired, or uninterested. Sex, especially with a particularly unempathetic partner, can be very very stressful. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/21 01:26 PM |
| 9 | Internalised Misandry: What do you battle, and how do you battle it?A lot, unfortunately. The perception that I'm dangerous. I feel like I have to be on guard all the time and can't be as honest with others as much as I like because I'm afraid that I'll scare them. I've been getting better at the beginning more honest and true to myself but I've struggled with that in the past The provider role and the feeling for having to bottle in most of my emotions. This kinda resembles the first point, but it's more about knowing that no one, even my SO, really wants to en… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/05/21 06:15 AM |
| 4 | Internalized misogyny vs toxic femininityYep, I certainly agree and I'm happy that my comment was able to resonate with you so well. While feminism is mostly based on the story of women's oppression and victimhood, I don't think this is inherently bad in all circumstances. They certainly are issues that disproportionately target/affect women (abortion rights, tampons, better birth control) and it's not necessarily bad to say so. However, I've come to the realization that feminism routinely and systematically excludes my perspective (ma… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/21 12:16 AM |
| 4 | Internalized misogyny vs toxic femininityWell ye, I've come to realize that reading through a lot of feminist discussions. While I am not a huge fan of Marx himself, I've come to respect how influential a lot of his ideas and analysis is. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/21 12:03 AM |
| 5 | Internalized misogyny vs toxic femininityI'm not making "excuses" for anyone. Just highlighting the way feminist's perceive gendered social issues. I'm not saying that it is good or bad either, it's just the reality of how feminists and feminist perspectives relate to the world. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/05/21 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Female supremacy in action: women and girls in Seattle have commissions at 4 levels of government focused on their issues. Men and boys have 0. and from the 35 commissioners 0% are male !No, no, no. This is not representative of a "matriarchy". But there needs to be some proportionate help/response for men who are victimized. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/05/21 10:31 AM |
| 24 | Internalized misogyny vs toxic femininitySure what you're saying is logically consistent (I think), however, feminist perspectives are limited to a particular worldwide that is fundamentally focused on women's point of view. I think this is a key factor when talking about feminism; it is fundamental women centering where women are inherently the sole/main/most important victims of hegemonic gender hierarchies (A lot of this comes from Marxist theories of class and class struggle). So it's no surprise to me that feminism refuses to call… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/05/21 10:28 AM |
| 1 | The U.S. Supreme Court just chose to take a case that will challenge Roe v. Wade. Reproductive rights aren't considered a predominantly male issue, but it's certainly a left wing one. Let's be aware of these political issues so we can advocate for equal and respectful treatment of everyoneIf we were to use genuinely neutral, intellectually honest language to describe it while simultaneously keeping our description accurate, I think your final suggestion is the right one: "pro-(abortion access)" and "anti-(abortion access)." That would actually do the trick. My nasty hunch, though, is that specifically because it is neutral language activists on both sides therefore won't like it. You know--call me cynical. No, I think "pro-choice" advocates have absolutely no problem with saying … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/21 04:06 AM |
| 1 | The U.S. Supreme Court just chose to take a case that will challenge Roe v. Wade. Reproductive rights aren't considered a predominantly male issue, but it's certainly a left wing one. Let's be aware of these political issues so we can advocate for equal and respectful treatment of everyoneI completely disagree: it absolutely is a spin. Its activist proponents, regardless of any of the things they say they intend, have for decades consciously employed the term in order to pigeonhole opponents into being "anti-choice." (See? It even sounds nasty and mean-spirited before the question, "Choice about what?" has a chance of getting asked.) I don't think this is "mean-spirited", they are accurately framing pro-"life" people as being anti women's right to choose to have an abortion. This… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/21 03:47 AM |
| 0 | The U.S. Supreme Court just chose to take a case that will challenge Roe v. Wade. Reproductive rights aren't considered a predominantly male issue, but it's certainly a left wing one. Let's be aware of these political issues so we can advocate for equal and respectful treatment of everyoneOne side opposes abortion rights and the other supports them. The most honest language for describing that is the old language we used in the 70s: anti-abortion and pro-abortion. And that's the language I use--not because of favoring either side (I don't), but because of insisting on intellectual honesty right where it hurts each of us the most. I disagree. One group opposes (or seeks to limit) the right to choose to have an abortion, while the other seeks to supports and seeks to broaden access… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/21 03:43 AM |
| 44 | I believe that we should teach boys to protect girls. But would it be appropriate to teach girls to protect boys?I think boys should protect other boys. Obviously we should learn to protect each other whenever we can, but I think there's a serious deficit when it comes to men helping and protecting/supporting other men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/21 03:45 PM |
| 1 | The U.S. Supreme Court just chose to take a case that will challenge Roe v. Wade. Reproductive rights aren't considered a predominantly male issue, but it's certainly a left wing one. Let's be aware of these political issues so we can advocate for equal and respectful treatment of everyoneLol, perhaps there are some pro-abortion people. But abortion is typically not seen as a good in it of itself but rather a reproductive right than women (and consequentially men) should have. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/21 02:52 PM |
| 2 | The U.S. Supreme Court just chose to take a case that will challenge Roe v. Wade. Reproductive rights aren't considered a predominantly male issue, but it's certainly a left wing one. Let's be aware of these political issues so we can advocate for equal and respectful treatment of everyoneOh, and if you're going to insist on the "pro-choice" linguistic rhetoric, then you'd better equally insist on the "pro-life" linguistic rhetoric, right? No. "Pro-life" is a lot more disingenuous to me than "pro-choice" because on the subject of abortion, "Pro-life" literally means anti-access to abortion. Whereas pro-choice means the ability for people to freely choose to abort or not. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/21 02:50 PM |
| 2 | Is MRA ideology anti feminist?Then why are you here? Why is your methodology better than everyone else's? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/21 02:11 AM |
| 5 | I came across this old comment talking about the feminist movement, patriarchy theory, and how reaching back to dictionary definitions is disingenuous at best.Not sure about Australia, but in the US, that is certainly true. Here's one about Australia for criminal assault. Another one about murder. More information and breakdown about assault victimization I mean, it took like 6 seconds to find this info! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/21 02:07 AM |
| 3 | The U.S. Supreme Court just chose to take a case that will challenge Roe v. Wade. Reproductive rights aren't considered a predominantly male issue, but it's certainly a left wing one. Let's be aware of these political issues so we can advocate for equal and respectful treatment of everyoneI disagree. Women should have the right/access to abortion of the child as a right of personal autonomy and responsibility. Men should equally have the ability to financially abdicate responsiblity for the unborn. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/21 01:57 AM |
| 2 | The U.S. Supreme Court just chose to take a case that will challenge Roe v. Wade. Reproductive rights aren't considered a predominantly male issue, but it's certainly a left wing one. Let's be aware of these political issues so we can advocate for equal and respectful treatment of everyoneNot in the US. Being Pro-choice (nobody is pro-abortion) or Anti-Abortion is certainly correlated with whether you are right of the aisle or left. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/21 01:55 AM |
| 5 | The U.S. Supreme Court just chose to take a case that will challenge Roe v. Wade. Reproductive rights aren't considered a predominantly male issue, but it's certainly a left wing one. Let's be aware of these political issues so we can advocate for equal and respectful treatment of everyoneAmen. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/21 01:54 AM |
| 9 | Will Biden’s Free Community College Help Close The Male Education Gap?I am a bit disappointed with this article because it doesn't really dive into the consequences of free community college on male education gap. I am skeptical that free community college would help close the gap significantly because much of the gap between men and women in schools starts at a very very early age. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/21 01:53 AM |
| 9 | The difference between men and women's social groups, or why men feel like they don't know bad men and women feel the oppositeI think there are a lot of good answers in this thread but honestly, I think part of it is because rapists/abusers don't really advertise that idea especially since men don't really talk that sincerely about these subject in the first place. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/21 01:48 AM |
| 10 | My list of studies showing we care more about women than men.Men certainly play a huge role in the oppression, demonization and reduction of value of other men. Men often frame each other as being oppressive, violent, brutish, and beastly especially in comparison to women. Its quite disappointing to see it in real life. I take every opportunity I can to put men in a positive light because I think it's critical that our boys see that men can support and love each other. Men seriously need to genuinely support and uplift each other. | /r/MensRights | 11/05/21 03:33 PM |
| 9 | A conversation I had with my brother today about boats, and how that helped me formulate my thoughts about the toxicity of traditional gender roles towards both sexes.But the worst thing is that as a man who doesn't like the system, I feel like an outcast. Other men don't understand me, and women often don't believe me. But I really do dream of a bright future that actually practices real egalitarianism, where courtship isn't a cold ritual involving casual sex and negotiations. But rather, where men and women actually come together over genuine, mutual connections and passions. Perhaps I'm just a hopeless romantic, and I'm sure I sound very antiquated, but th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/05/21 12:37 AM |
| 2 | U.N. Women UK Study on Sexual Harassment (97%)Nice! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/21 03:09 AM |
| 6 | First female U.S. Senator was unabashed white supremacist, went so far as to actively promote the lynching of black men.Holy shit she is incredibly wealthy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/21 05:07 AM |
| 19 | First female U.S. Senator was unabashed white supremacist, went so far as to actively promote the lynching of black men.Oh you don't know the half of it. Feminism has a long history of being a movement centered around cis-white women. White women owned slaves and were actively taught from childhood how to train/teach/take care of slaves. They were sometimes gifted slaves. In fact, slaves were some of the primary pieces of property women had, especially enslaved children. It is rarely taught because white feminist movements have on the whole ignored this aspect of history. In the past, historians had often based t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/21 05:06 AM |
| 5 | Franz Kafka and the little girl.Well now I know. I never thought of it as extreme until now. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/21 01:30 PM |
| 5 | Franz Kafka and the little girl.No, not really. Most people are very protective of their children (and children in general). I try my best to stay away from children in public settings because of this. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/21 09:29 AM |
| 18 | Franz Kafka and the little girl.This is interesting because this happens to me quite a bit too. My cousin recently moved the same city that my family and I live in with his wife and four-year-old child. We took the opportunity to visit them because it was the first time in like 10 years we've seen my cousin. While we were all sitting in the living room, his daughter, being 4 and super eccentric, wouldn't stop jumping into my lap, slapping my face, pulling my cheeks etc. I made sure not to touch her, but I could see the mother … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/21 12:41 AM |
| 8 | Why I’m done talking to conservative men about men’s issuesI really hope the mods sticky this post because this should be front and center on this page. It makes me happy that people are actively calling out Conservatives on the bullshit they spew about male sexuality and masculinity. So many great quotes in here, I'll list out my favorite: "they defend them. And use their advocacy for men’s rights to defend them, even when their statements hurt men by implying all men are potential rapists and fuckbuddies who only care about sex." "Nowhere in this proc… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/21 08:07 AM |
| 7 | Why I’m done talking to conservative men about men’s issuesThis is very very very well put! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/21 07:51 AM |
| 16 | Why I’m done talking to conservative men about men’s issuesI think there is a lot of reason for this, but in the most basic sense, anything "anti-feminist" or really just critical of feminism, is marginalized as being right-wing. To make matters worse, conservatives often pretend that they are trying to "protect masculinity" by trying to Bring Back Manly Men (this one irks me the most because it boils my blood whenever a woman tries to define what it means to be a man) or giving shitty seminars on the "decline of men" as seen on Tik Tok. So its people w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/21 07:50 AM |
| 1 | I posted about a man's charity seeking volunteers and most of the comments were about how women were oppressed and feminism is good ! the post got only one upvote while comments talking about women more than 15. another example that society only care about women's wellbeing.I don't think that is out of a specific hatred for men but rather an erroneous belief that men don't need help. Also, I don't think that feminists en mass think this only the ones in power. Which is a whole other problem in it of itself. However, I don't think it is right to shout them down when you're trying to raise awareness. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/21 11:42 PM |
| 10 | Violence as male pathologyI completely agree with your conclusion. I suspect this has to do with how we think of men vs women. Men, in general, have a very low in-group bias in comparison to women. This fact itself is not controversial and I think it might influence how the two groups see one another. Men don't really see each other as men, they see each other as other identities first: race, creed, nationality, class, etc, whereas women might first see each other as women first before all of these other things. I've hea… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/21 10:45 PM |
| 5 | I posted about a man's charity seeking volunteers and most of the comments were about how women were oppressed and feminism is good ! the post got only one upvote while comments talking about women more than 15. another example that society only care about women's wellbeing.I don't know if I'm on your side with this one. They looked at your post history and while I do think its unfair to look at someone's post history, I certainly think you did yourself no favor for arguing pretty childishly with them in the comments with statements like "see you just proved that feminists hate men." I mean c'mon. Feminists don't hate men, most just think that their issues aren't really worth taking action on. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/21 10:27 PM |
| 4 | It bothers me how often men's mental/emotional views are ignored in the discussion of family laborCan you link to that research? That's a pretty interesting stat that I've never really heard before. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/21 07:19 PM |
| 5 | It bothers me how often men's mental/emotional views are ignored in the discussion of family laborWow, what a great comment. Those are some really great examples and I'm happy you brought them up. My parents fit pretty neatly into these gender roles as my dad certain was stressed from thinking about all of those bullet points, especially the "spokesperson" role in family/financial conflicts. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/21 07:17 PM |
| 3 | It bothers me how often men's mental/emotional views are ignored in the discussion of family laborI think there's some truth to that because of this line at the end of the abstract: These findings identify and define an overlooked—yet potentially consequential—source of gender inequality at the household level and suggest a new direction for research on the division of household labor. It does feel like they're reaching quite a bit | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/21 07:14 PM |
| 12 | It bothers me how often men's mental/emotional views are ignored in the discussion of family laborHmm, academic pursue info based on their own bias all the time. They're people and similarly suffer from confirmation bias. That being said, I'm very disappointed that there isn't even much of an attempt to really look into these questions as if these things couldn't have crossed her mind. That was a very interesting article and opened my eyes quite a bit. Thanks for sharing | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/21 02:45 AM |
| 11 | If I'm perfectly honest this feels pointless...Eh I think it'll be more egalitarian. But to be honest, egalitarian values are LWMA values so I'm hopeful. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/04/21 03:22 AM |
| 4 | The End Of MenFrom what I've read, its not misandrist. Its not necessarily welcoming nor prescribing the end of men at all. It is a little sickening though but not because of the author but because of the arguments and evidence. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/04/21 12:26 AM |
| 24 | If I'm perfectly honest this feels pointless...Could you expand on that a little more? I'm curious about how things are shifting in academia | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/04/21 12:25 AM |
| 5 | How did Women and Men both working become an idealThat's not the reason why women earn less. There's little difference between men's and women's wages until they have children. Its a motherhood penalty, not one on women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/21 05:16 PM |
| 1 | How did Women and Men both working become an idealDo you have any sources to back this claim up? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/21 05:14 PM |
| 2 | How did Women and Men both working become an idealReaganomics is supply-side economics. Also, the 1950s prosperity had very very little to do with Reagan or conservative economics. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/21 05:14 PM |
| 12 | How did Women and Men both working become an idealThis is such a great comment and I agree wholeheartedly. I think there's a knee jerk reaction of getting mad at women for "pushing wages down", but we in reality, companies should be paying both men and women more. We should be wary of a profit uber alles mentality in these corporations and focus on how that (and economic inequality) is the main driver behind a reduction in real wages. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/21 05:12 PM |
| 3 | LWMA LoungeWell that is really really cool. I taught ESL to Spanish speakers in Texas for a short amount of time and while it was fun, I'm not sure I would be able to handle it without the colleagues that worked with me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/21 09:03 PM |
| 4 | LWMA LoungeNice! If it's okay to ask, what type of lessons are you doing? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/21 01:01 PM |
| 5 | From Germany: Violence against Men hotline was a successThis is great news! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/21 12:23 PM |
| 5 | Things men (supposedly) never have to think about or be afraid ofRight? Shit's scary. I was lucky enough not to live most of my life in a place like that, but I know people who have been victims of stranger gun violence and because of it, it can be a bit frightening to be out at night. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/21 05:15 AM |
| 1 | A new academic paper argues that men do talk and seek help for their mental health problems. And that focusing on getting men to "speak up" is counterproductive and "detracts attention from structural drivers of suicide" in men.Is there a pdf of this somewhere? I would love to read it! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/21 03:54 AM |
| 6 | Irony Alert: We too demonstrate the empathy gapHarmful generalizations about men fall under that category in my opinion | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/21 03:51 AM |
| 2 | Another small win for men in New Zealand.This shows that we can certainly make a change! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/21 03:50 AM |
| 10 | Things men (supposedly) never have to think about or be afraid ofI listen to horror stories narrated on YouTube and the last one popped up in one of them claiming men never even have to begin to worry about opening their door after 9 pm. what? Opening your door at night is ridiculously scary especially if you live in a densely populated area (the city) or a high crime neighborhood. As a child and later as a teen/young adult, I was routinely reminded of how dangerous going outside at night was. Honestly, I think women who say that want to feel special as if th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/21 02:56 AM |
| 7 | Another small win for men in New Zealand.Its a small change but a seriously welcome one! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/21 09:37 PM |
| 7 | A rant on so-called 'natural empathy'I think the further issue is conflating "women" with "feminist". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/21 09:37 PM |
| 4 | Støjberg's bill on boy circumcision is medically and ethically unsoundI think its an even bigger problem that so many religions view banning genital mutilation as a religious expression. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/21 09:36 PM |
| 25 | LWMA LoungeReally like this sub and how quickly it's growing. I really hope that a left wing men's movement that isn't as watered down as menslib gains the steam that it deserves. But more generally: How's everyone's day going? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/21 09:33 PM |
| 4 | LWMA LoungeYou don't. Sometimes, I think we feel the need to "convert' someone else to our side/viewpoint but the reality of the situation is that, if that person isn't arguing on the same playing field as you are (using evidence, sources etc), then there's really no argument | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/21 09:32 PM |
| 13 | Shared parenting becomes law in Arkansas.This is fantastic! I'm really happy to hear that things are finally looking up when it comes to shared custody. Shared custody has overwhelming evidence behind it and I'm happy that we've finally recognized it as being beneficial to the child. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/21 01:32 AM |
| 2 | Well, r/feminismuncensored didn't really work out did it?To be fair, I don't have a problem with the law as long as 1) The accused father can ask/request/or is required to take a paternity test before paying out 2) The father can use his insurance/or can be covered by medicaid/medicare. 3) If not 2, the the father is only liable to pay out of pocket costs 4) If the father does can disallow paternity (forfeit paternity) before the child is born (or is in the 3rd trimester). Giving birth should be free. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/21 07:41 AM |
| 1 | Where are we supposed to meet each other to date?Personally, I haven't had too much of an issue with inactive groups because I only used it in a big city. However, I can definitely see that getting annoying. My interests are a bit broad so its typically easy for me to find active groups. Idk if the developers have a forum or contact line but that prioritizing active groups would be a great addition | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/21 07:22 AM |
| 10 | Male disadvantage erasure in media reporting.Well I think the problem is literally an explicit bias against men. When we think of disparities, we're really only apt to listening to the suffering of women and minorities because we expect everyone else to be fine. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/21 01:55 AM |
| 1 | What is the feminist movement's net worth?These are just the ten that I found on that page. There are plenty of feminist organizations I didn't count on this list such as federal organizations/bureaus, agencies set up using government money, for-profit companies, shelter agencies etc. So the number is likely in the billions if you include all of that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/21 01:53 AM |
| 10 | Feminist's defense of Sarah Jeong is an example of their manipulative and gaslighting tactics.Thank you. I've seen your posts quite a bit on the subreddit and in other places and I wanted to say that I appreciate the amount of quality and thought you put into your comments. They're almost always of quality and improve the conversation they're in. Thanks again. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/21 08:30 AM |
| 3 | "Men get assaulted and murdered more than women because they beat each other up."I never mentioned that it was a stranger/just a random killings Even if that is true. Why don't we talk more the social circumstances that put them there in the first place and why they shouldn't have been there at all? Most people who are killed know their assailants, like the vast majority (of ones that are known -- most relationships are unknown). "Saying because they beat each other up" is victim blaming and an unfair framing of the social reasons they they were there in the first place. Its… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/21 03:35 AM |
| 6 | We live in a capitalist society, and capitalism disproportionately harms menGreat answer. I also think it is important to factor in things like auto insurance where young men face the bulk of the price disparity even though its levels out later in life. It might also be important to note that women pay 60% less income tax than men do even if employment figures are roughly equal. But if women ultimately refuse to take on that burden, we should at least make things better for men. So a better work-life balance and safer working environments would help a lot. Along with ea… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/21 08:27 PM |
| 15 | We live in a capitalist society, and capitalism disproportionately harms menSome people try to say that we live in a patriarchy, and that we need to acknowledge that the patriarchy uniquely harms women first, and men second. Many people will disagree and point out that by quite a few metrics, men suffer a lot more than women. So if we do live in a patriarchy, it's not a very good one. Patriarchy doesn't really much more than "my conceptualization of society". Its become a term in which anyone can project their perceived biases onto. I never really tackle this debate wit… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/21 06:48 PM |
| 21 | "Men get assaulted and murdered more than women because they beat each other up."My response to that point would be: "So what? Why does it matter that the perpetrator is the same gender as the victim? Does his life matter less? Do you think his life matter's less?" I think asking these questions is important because it puts the person who made the statement on the back foot for victim-blaming. Also, when it comes to therapists, I would try finding a male therapist that has a similar background to you because oftentimes, at least in my experience with female therapists, they'… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/21 06:34 PM |
| 3 | The Guardian is a rag.There is a Guardian journalist called Iman Amrani who does a series on Modern Masculinity. And while it is quite flawed (she focuses a lot on Jordan Peterson supporters in the earlier episodes - and personally I don't think Peterson is that great for men), at least she's treating men as human fucking beings instead of walking rape machines who occasionally look cute with a man bun. I seriously love Iman Amrani's work on Modern Masculinity. Absolutely amazing stuff because she brings some of thes… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/21 04:53 AM |
| 4 | What is something you've been told that you know you wouldn't get away with saying yourself as a man?I think this is a correct assessment. Though I can see how that language could me misheard/misappropriated pretty easily to fit the narrative in relationships. I think that larger/secondary problem is that its typically only a term applied to women against men rather than showing how that definition of emotional labour can apply to literally anyone in a relationship with another person. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/21 04:46 AM |
| 11 | What is something you've been told that you know you wouldn't get away with saying yourself as a man?A girl I was dating completely humiliated me in the street for being scared of a horror movie. She made a whole scene outside the movie theatre about how I was a 'pussified manchild' etc etc. It was all meant to be extremely emasculating. I never talked to her again after that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/21 04:44 AM |
| 1 | Where are we supposed to meet each other to date?we're not supposed to date the women we come in contact with at our work or in our daily lives because there could be a power imbalance (which seems so silly to me, we're both adults). That is kinda silly and I'm not entirely sure who is voicing that opinion. But a great app for dating would be meetup! Its an absolutely amazing place to meet people and connect with others based on a shared interest. Personally, I met my girlfriend through a mutual friend group from the app. What I like about the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/04/21 04:40 AM |
| 2 | "Mansplaining" and "manspreading" are sexist termsRight. Feminists are not necessarily internally consistent. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/21 11:06 PM |
| 2 | What is the feminist movement's net worth?Oh wow. Thanks for highlighting this. I didn't read the 990s for the organizations closely. If you look on Google, Toni Van Pelt (the president) is reported as drawing a modest $66,288 per year salary. But her total compensation from both groups (including ~$3,000 for "other compensation" under column F) is $169,068 for 2018. She's also reported as only working 16 to 24 hours per week for that salary. I don't doubt this, but I would love a juicy source for that last sentence. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/21 06:42 PM |
| 3 | "Mansplaining" and "manspreading" are sexist termsCondescending dick is itself gendered. You’re so brainwashed into the misandrist narrative that you don’t even see that. Some alternatives. Asshole. Jerk. Punknugget. Rude motherfucker. Oh shit, you're right! Dick as a word, is gender-neutral as an insult but it is used to refer to male genitals. I'll make an edit. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/21 06:39 PM |
| -3 | "Mansplaining" and "manspreading" are sexist termsI don't see how the way men sit is inherently 'condescending'. Its really not and anyone who says that it is, is either bored, crazy, both, or being petty. Anyone can be condescending, so why make it a gendered issue? And again, whatever reason why the term "mansplaining" was invented is irrelevant because it's mostly used now by women to silence men they don't like. Well personally, I think a lot of women with these views hold a pretty binary view point of the world, a more us vs them mentality… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/21 08:04 AM |
| 4 | What is the feminist movement's net worth?Ok, let me try to break this down. Using this list here is the net worth of the top 10 feminist organizations: Women's Global Empowerment Fund $271,292 as of 2016 Interestingly enough: that's the lowest its been since 2013 World Pulse $1,001,204 as of the 2018 Fiscal Year Global Grassroots $423,632 in the 2018 Fiscal Year Global Fund for Women $21,214,065 in the 2018 Fiscal Year National Organization for Women $874,620 in the 2018 Fiscal Year Association for Women's Rights in Development $4,168,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/21 07:59 AM |
| 6 | Does the whole "emotional labor" argument seem unnecessarily one-sided to anyone else?I think in the way that the conversation around emotional labor is framed, it is meant to be deliberately one-sided. Especially if you're viewing it through a feminist lens. Feminist-perspectives are usually (almost always - 90% of the time) not going to be balanced in this regard unless they are specifically trying to understand and see the viewpoint of men. There are some feminists who are willing to do that, and a lot more who think they already do that (those are by far the most pernicious),… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/21 07:34 AM |
| -3 | "Mansplaining" and "manspreading" are sexist termsI honestly believe that 'mansplaining' and 'manspreading' are just gender-coded words for being a condescending dick asshole. Men call it 'being a condescending dick asshole', feminists call it mansplaining. I'm not sure I see much of a difference. Those who "mansplain" are just being annoying and I think its important to call it out when you see it, but I'm not entirely sure if it happens purely because of gender. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/21 07:24 AM |
| 1 | Why there's empathy for women and "Man Up" for menWell that's a line for the ages. I also think this biological impulse makes the battle for recognizing male suffering even more difficult because people might assume that the empathy gap is "natural" as if "natural" is superior to having empathy for male suffering. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/04/21 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Well, r/feminismuncensored didn't really work out did it?Except before it was about government non-intervention. Well, even if I accept that as true, it doesn't change the fact that laws never really help men who were in need. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/04/21 09:01 AM |
| 4 | Does the demonization of men in society contribute to gender dysphoria?I'll be honest, this is an angle I would've never thought of and a very interesting perspective. I can certainly relate to feeling guilty for being born a man (on top of being black), and being perceived as a threat above that. It makes interaction with anyone who isn't male just uncomfortable. I'm not trans, nor do I have any desire to change my gender, but I can certainly relate for being ashamed being born into my gender and wishing I was born a female because it looks a lot better on the oth… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/04/21 09:43 PM |
| 2 | Well, r/feminismuncensored didn't really work out did it?Well, apparently they did it in Utah. No they didn't. They compelled biological fathers to pay for pregnancies. I understand. Why do you have a problem with this? You don't feel responsible for a pregnancy that you helped create? Seems strange to me. That's not the issue. My problem with this law is that it creates a financial incentive for emotional abusers and hurts victims of reproductive coercion, a type of abuse that disproportionately affects men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/04/21 09:35 PM |
| 2 | Well, r/feminismuncensored didn't really work out did it?I made a longer post about it here. But the issue is that you really can't legally compel someone to help pay for your abortion. Whereas this law you can legally force a man to pay 50% of the bill for your pregnancy. Also, many people in America would certainly have an issue with sharing the cost of an abortion, especially if they disagree with the entire concept in the first place. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/04/21 06:44 AM |
| 2 | Well, r/feminismuncensored didn't really work out did it?Except the laws exist because of feminist lobbyist. Feminism is a massive industry partially motivated by greed and selfishness. You can't fight againsT the government's mistreatment of men without fighting against feminism. Look at the male curfew in the U.K it was preposed by a feminist and even if it was suppose to be a "joke" it was made because of the feminist uproar over the death of a single woman. Yes, in some cases, feminists did have a hand in passing laws that downright ignored men, b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/04/21 06:40 AM |
| 4 | How Conservative Lawmakers Hurt MenNo, most feminists did not support Hillary over Trump because Hillary fit their ideals so much better. They did it because Trump was/is a terrible person and politician. Trump is just as neo-con, authoritarian, and right-wing as Romney and Bush. Feminists are definitely left-wing, there's no real debate there. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/04/21 06:34 AM |
| 7 | How Conservative Lawmakers Hurt MenIts important for us to do both, to raise awareness of legislation that will harm men, and to critique Feminism from a left-wing, egalitarian perspective. Feminism has too much influence over male advocacy to responsibly ignore, and there are too few leftists already that are willing to challenge its authority. Critiquing feminism is important and you're right to highlight that. However, I think this sub, and many other pro-male advocacy subs focus almost myopically on feminism. One of the thing… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/04/21 06:32 AM |
| 3 | How Conservative Lawmakers Hurt MenIt's trying to address the accusation of hypocrisy that often comes from pro-choice / pro-abortion advocates: you just want to control women, otherwise you'd do more to help the mothers and children and make the men take more responsibility. I think that's a good point to bring up and while conservatives might want to tackle that aspect of the liberal rebuttal against anti-abortion access, its clear that they not only intend to control the reproductive rights of women, but also those of men with… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/04/21 06:24 AM |
| 1 | Well, r/feminismuncensored didn't really work out did it?Honestly, I don't think a lot of MRA can really participate in a feminist community because so much of us are focused on criticizing feminism and not criticizing research biases, and laws that actively hurt men's reproductive rights. I really feel like we should stop talking so much about feminism and start talking about how literally every side, group, and political interest groups are anti-male. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/04/21 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Men's issues from an egalitarian position are the least reactionary of feminist issuesI think I understand. Men are not really viewed as part of intersectionality in that sense because of the stigma against fighting for men's issues. In my opinion, we need to make men's issues a progressive issue and start writing and speaking about more radical ideas such as financial abortion, increase domestic violence spending, barring domestic violence spending at shelters that discriminate against men. Etc etc. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/04/21 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Can we talk about this? I’m kinda sick of seeing it.That is a big problem. But keep in mind that the sub exists in order to put a genial feminist front for the men's movement and more broadly appeal to the feminist audience who might think that men suffer from women's problems too. Its members are definitely a lot better and are of all types of men's advocacy but the moderator of the subs are very pro-feminist. Words like "gynocentrism" and "misandry" are banned there last I heard tho. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/04/21 11:00 PM |
| 2 | A Google Search Experiment: Googling ‘Washington state women’s equality’ produces webpages about women’s equality. Googling ‘Washington state men’s equality’ also produces webpages about women’s equality.I disagree to an extent. Google doesn't hard code bias against men nor do they intentfully use super-biased databases tp train their algorithms (especially since the algo itself trains and retrains itself with every click on the site). Its likely a reflection of our individual actions and how we use Google and what search results we expect when we search. Google is a reflection of us, not the other way around. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/04/21 08:46 PM |
| 2 | Men's issues from an egalitarian position are the least reactionary of feminist issuesI'm not sure what you're talking about here. Yeah, men's issues from a non-traditionalist lens isn't right-wing at all. But I'm not sure how that is opposed to intersectionality as a concept especially when the concept does reach over into men's issues too (black + male + class, asian + male, class + male etc). A lot of the language from feminist theory and idea can be applied pretty well with men's issues. However, most people hesitate to do that because we have not been socialized to not view … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/04/21 08:44 PM |
| 7 | Can we talk about this? I’m kinda sick of seeing it.Take a look at the comments and removeddit. There is a lot of people who consistently push against woman centering on the platform. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/04/21 08:38 PM |
| 3 | Can we talk about this? I’m kinda sick of seeing it.I don't agree. I think MensLib is a space for feminist-sympathizing/feminist men. And there's nothing wrong with that. In fact, more recently I've been seeing them grow more and more cognizant of how men are shamed for their existence and there's been a lot more pushback against overtly feminist voices and woman-centering as of late. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/04/21 04:48 PM |
| 3 | The Email Campaign. Let's do something by bringing reddit's double standards to the media.I'm not even sure what you mean. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/04/21 04:47 PM |
| 8 | Reddit admins clarify that they're fine with hate if it's directed towards the right people.This is stomach-churning news. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/04/21 10:11 PM |
| 21 | I've always found it kind of baffling that the same people who will denigrate men for saying "not all men" will in the same breath say "not all feminists"Coming from a post-feminist perspective, the difference between men and feminism is that feminists don't think of men in the same way that a man might think of men. To feminists/feminism as a whole, men are an institution in the same way that white supremacy is an institution. This distinction is important because this allows feminists to demonize men and then backtrack whenever they get criticized for doing so. It allows them to flexibly use the word 'men' as both an institution and individuals… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/04/21 04:22 PM |
| 9 | The on-going battle against male sexuality: We need to address the elephant in the roomWhat do you think could be some ways to act on this issue in a productive way? If we want to aspire to a more balanced social approach to sexuality we need to actively fight against the ongoing perpetration of the damaging concepts by the media, academy and other institutions. Practically? I think most people are open to equality, if not passionately, passively. I've had conversations about these things with my guy friends and despite what you might assume from reading posts on MensLib and from … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/21 04:41 PM |
| 1 | The closing of MEL magazine is evidence that most men agree with us. So, I have a question...I think many of the men that encourage this behavior are doing it for the specific reason of signaling virtue. Virtue signaling like this isn't inherently harmful, we do it all the time. When you stand up for something you believe in, defend someone else, defend your own values, you are signaling to those around you your virtues. However, the issue is that virtue signaling that male feminists do requires them to denounce/demonize an essential part of themselves in order to please a group they pe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/21 04:30 PM |
| 2 | The statement "men suffer under patriarchy too" is a statement that disproves the validity of the patriarchy theory. It's doublethink and self contradictoryGood. That's what it should remind you of. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/21 04:18 PM |
| 3 | Who is driving the agenda?I seriously don't think the organization is doing this with some deep agenda but simply, people at the organization feature writers/articles with biases that they deem interesting. For example, its not a couple people pulling all the string manically laughing at men at the bottom, but more people united in a cause that they think is right because they don't particularly understand the ramification of their behavior (and don't really understand any other perspectives than the corporate feminist o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/21 03:28 AM |
| 27 | The closing of MEL magazine is evidence that most men agree with us. So, I have a question...I think this campaign failed for multiple, likely in-house business reasons, but one thing's for sure, men aren't interested in a space that berates them for being masculine. And we should highlight that, make men better, not by getting rid of their masculinity, but by highlighting it and emphasizing it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/21 03:11 AM |
| 10 | After a lawsuit by the Pacific Legal Foundation high school boys will be allowed to dance in South Dakota and Minnesota!This is fantastic to hear! All types of dance are expressive art forms (and sports) that should be open to everyone regardless of gender | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/21 03:07 AM |
| 16 | The statement "men suffer under patriarchy too" is a statement that disproves the validity of the patriarchy theory. It's doublethink and self contradictoryOk, I see what you're saying but I have a problem with this line here: men have the privilege over women and that at no point a woman is at an disadvantage I think you meant that at no point does patriarchy theory assume that men have any disadvantages. This is not necessarily true, and this isn't how most of the "bad" feminists view patriarchy theory. What actually ends up happening is a sort of uncomfortable twist. Those "disadvantages" that men endure (ie dying for your country, being incarce… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/21 08:50 PM |
| 3 | If I could tell this person the kind of straw man they were putting out there, I would. If the genders were reversed and it said that "women defend this kind of discrimination", only then would the bigotry be seen for what it is.I never heard anyone defend eminem like that lol. Also eminem isn't advocating for women to face a legal curfew and prevent their mobility and then walking it back as "not a serious proposal" when they receive backlash. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/21 01:15 PM |
| 2 | Today is Trans Day of Visibility. Trans men, what would you like to say?Happy to see you here in the community! And I'm always wondering if this lack of assertiveness does not come from that 1.i was brought up as a girl and 2. I spent the formative year of adolescence being more occupied fighting my gender disphoria and depression rather than like most guys being forced to learn how to flirt with girls which would hence translate into people skills at work. Wow, I didn't even think about this. I'm not sure attempting to learn pickup gave me social skills, but I thin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/21 01:08 PM |
| 3 | Good article about the wrong and even hurtful advice often given to incels (meaning the latter word in a neutral way, not specifically any embittered misogynistic communities)The first one is that we should not confuse a social problem - an imbalanced dating market- with a personal solution: how to find a good partner. It would be like tell every worker how to get a good job individually instead of fighting the unemployment inherent in the economic situation. Without dismissing individual advice, we should do both and especially in a sub like this keep talking about the bigger picture. I definitely agree. There is a larger picture/narrative at work that devalues male… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/21 12:53 PM |
| 2 | Good article about the wrong and even hurtful advice often given to incels (meaning the latter word in a neutral way, not specifically any embittered misogynistic communities)Here to second Models by Manson. It's what pulled me out of my pill-scented funk, while acknowledging the handful of things the manosphere/pill communities get right about dating issues for men without cascading people into misogyny or hopelessness. Exactly how I felt reading it. It took a long time, plus counselling - but I had to spend a lot of time telling myself that even if a woman never touched me for the rest of my life, that didn't make me an unworthy person nor did it invalidate me as a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/04/21 12:47 PM |
| 2 | Are prostitutes profiting from male loneliness?Sex =/= intimacy. Sex is typically an indicator of intimacy. Friends with benefits and casual sex are things that happen and exceptions to the rule in a sense (hence why I said typically) as in you can have un-intimate sex (this is the prostitutes primary product). But sex isn't, by itself, fulfilling nor does it help alleviate loneliness because loneliness is a lack of consistent human interaction/connection. On a more personal note: I find consistent casual sex to be great, if and only if, the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/04/21 05:49 PM |
| 3 | Good article about the wrong and even hurtful advice often given to incels (meaning the latter word in a neutral way, not specifically any embittered misogynistic communities)I honestly think dating advice for men isn't really that complicated and those that make it more complex than it actually are are doing this for some type of profit. I think the best book on dating is Models by Mark Manson (and really the only book you need to read on dating at all). The gist of it is that you should aim to screen out people when dating. You're looking for someone you can work with and that you enjoy being around rather than looking for a woman who will accept you. You shouldn't… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/04/21 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Has anybody had any success in radical (not just liberal, radical) spaces as a men's advocate or working on general gender equality?I think it depends on the type of "rad-fem" feminist. In my experience, I seen both types, ones that are aggressively anti-maleness and masculinity, and ones that are more sympathetic to the effect that traditional gender hierarchies have. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/04/21 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Are prostitutes profiting from male loneliness?Okay, I think it would be better if we stopped looking at sex as the end goal and more as a proxy for a relationship. To have sex with someone, you likely have to be in some kind of intimate relationship with that person. Prostitution does not provide intimacy, it provides sex. Men don't singularly care about sex for sex's sake, but more specifically about what sex represents: intimacy. , | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/04/21 03:37 PM |
| 5 | Antagonism and dismissiveness toward male sexuality - a look at a thread asking if it’s cruel for someone to expect their partner to use condoms for the rest of their life.According to the Planned Parenthood Website, LARC (or copper IUDs) are very safe, effective, and reversible.%20are%20the%20most%20effective,and%203%20years%2C%20respectively) They can make periods worse but that isn't a guarantee for all women. Almost all medications come with some/mild side effects that differ from person to person, not I'm not sure that is a realistic goal. Hormonal birth control is reversible and the evidence on cancer risk in the long term is mixed at best with most evidence… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/04/21 12:23 PM |
| 3 | "What is really going on in today's culture regarding men?" A response.Holy shit, this was a great write up. This line in particular: Your sexual desires will be exploited by capitalists to convince you to buy products you don't need, yet are easy to grow dependent on. Society will tie your worth as a man to your success in dating, and many will try to use your fear of failure to manipulate you I completely resonated with this part because when I was a lot younger I used to sit around and watch videos on pickup trying to improve my value and be a "high value man". … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/04/21 02:57 AM |
| 4 | Antagonism and dismissiveness toward male sexuality - a look at a thread asking if it’s cruel for someone to expect their partner to use condoms for the rest of their life.The pill is not the only method of birth control guys. There are literally tens of them. She's likely to find one that she likes! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/04/21 02:24 AM |
| 13 | Antagonism and dismissiveness toward male sexuality - a look at a thread asking if it’s cruel for someone to expect their partner to use condoms for the rest of their life.Not wanting to wear a condom during sex is a perfectly legitimate reason to not want to have sex with someone who requires condom usage. You can revoke consent for any reason. The interesting thing is that I used to have the same issue for a while (and it took a minute to find condoms that do fit me) and I kinda thought "I'm just happy to be here" even though the sex was bad and it was painful afterward (I ended up going to the ER the third night I tried having sex bc of the pain). I think its h… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/04/21 02:23 AM |
| 2 | How far are moderate feminists willing to go? What does the everyday feminism looks like in your circle?You're not wrong. Just my personal preference I guess. It just feels a bit repetitive especially given that feminism in the everyday has a lot in common with the patriarchy that they want to "dismantle" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/21 08:22 PM |
| 1 | How far are moderate feminists willing to go? What does the everyday feminism looks like in your circle?I'm getting a bit tired of these posts where we talk about problems with feminism. Even though I think its good and all, it would be more interesting if we brought some more light on discrimination faced by men, or interestings ways men were hurt throughout history because they were men. Feminism has some clear issues but there's a bit more to being a male advocate. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/21 07:54 PM |
| 20 | I feel it’s important to remember: the bitterness is not us.This is nice. I support it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/21 07:47 PM |
| 25 | In the Spring of 1900, Yaa Asantewaa, Queen and ruler of the Ashanti people, convinced women to refuse sex from men who didn't sign up to fight in a war with the BritishAlso I think there is some evidence that women tended to wage war more often. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/21 07:26 PM |
| 16 | "That's not real feminism"That rule is specifically the reason why I like this sub more than MensLib. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/21 11:39 AM |
| 9 | Man I'm tired of women blaming me for not crying enough and never calling out this shit. How am I supposed to deal with these it is honestly driving me to the point of self hatred. How do I deal with this? Please Help! I feel so weak and defeated.I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling that way. Feeling hopeless and loss is becoming more and more common amongst men and posts like this don't help at best and at worst, they actively hurt men. Women's opinions about what it means to be a man are irrelevant. Women who want to control you and tell you how to act will never be man and never know what it means to be a man. Anyone with opinions like the post are simply people you know to avoid. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/21 11:27 AM |
| 7 | If the 2020 BLM protests achieved anything, it's being undone by the response to the Everard murderIts also important to note that this fear that women have for men is often very much tinged with racism against black men and other students of color because students of color are viewed as more dangerous than white students by white females. This fact is often overlooked by many women, in particular white women, and is part of the white-washing of white womanhood's relationship with males of color. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/21 05:34 AM |
| 8 | I just wanted to make a post to thank our mod team for all of the work they put in to making this sub what it is.This is my favorite sub because of this amazing mod team. They're so good at what they do and vetting problematic content while not neutering the conversation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/21 12:34 PM |
| 1 | Men do not seem like they are proud to be men. And this is detrimental to their mental health. We need to celebrate men instead of demonizing them.Its the primary area. I don't really here much of it outside of that. I hear quite a bit about how important fathers are at church but those are the two main domains. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/21 12:07 PM |
| 2 | Men do not seem like they are proud to be men. And this is detrimental to their mental health. We need to celebrate men instead of demonizing them.While I think it is vital to celebrate masculinity in all its forms, I don't think that being a man goes uncelebrated. Aside from all the nonsense that comes with attempting to fit in with mainstream progressive ideas of manhood, masculinity is celebrated! Its celebrated at sports games, team activities, bowling alleys, anywhere men hang out with each other. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/03/21 03:24 PM |
| 17 | Conservative article regarding a study done on wikipedia which found gynocentric bias.You should really just link the study and its conclusions instead of this conservative article. Breitbart has an awful reputation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/03/21 04:14 AM |
| 16 | The belief that the female perspective is inherently more legitimate than the male perspective need to stop.I whole-heartedly agree. Though I think this is not a new phenomenon as women have typically been seen as morally superior to men, even before the rise of feminism as an ideology. Its the whole women are wonderful effect, part of system of "benevolent" sexism/misogyny/ "malevolent" misandry paradigm. Its also interesting to note that women tend to rate themselves higher (in-group bias) than men rate other men and both men and women believe that women are morally superior. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/03/21 04:11 AM |
| 2 | On mass shootersI don't know. I'm always shocked when people really don't seem to understand why young men keep committing these awful acts. We are leaving them behind, that's why. We are letting male suffering go unaddressed and tell young men to fester in their loneliness and anger until they decide it isn't worth it anymore. It feels so obvious to me and I genuinely can't tell if it's just a guy thing or a me thing, but I know it's not because men are more violent or trash like that, it's because men are pre… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/03/21 05:54 PM |
| 2 | just got banned from r/menslib for this. That sub is close to saving. they’re so close. but there’s mods like this.I honestly think you got the bad end of a sensitive mod. MensLib is a lot more feminist and sensitive about criticizing feminism than this sub is but misandry is often called out but you really have to tip-toe around comparisons. It gets so close to tackling real issues sometimes, and I've really been interested in following its progression to becoming more male-centered and talking about substantial issues. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/03/21 05:38 PM |
| 3 | Because THERE ARE places where "equality" still means something! (elaboration in comments)This is really nice and encouraging to see! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/03/21 05:34 PM |
| 2 | Are there any particular studies relating to women's participation in oppression?Ah, there's a lot, but I think the most fascinating one is the active role white women had in slavery and how they used it to workaround coverture. White women might have owned nearly as many slaves as men did given that it was often the only property they could own. Its also important to note that women can and did own property legally that they could sell, buy and exchange. Much of that property were young black children. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/03/21 05:33 PM |
| 6 | High-school boys made to stand and apologise for being maleI hate seeing things like this not just because its quite obviously misandric, but because it absolutely pointless theatre. You want to really help young girls in that environment? Actually take their complaints of harassment seriously. Intervene if you're a teacher. Do the same thing for boys too. I mean, I was pantsed (pulling down of the pants) multiple times in middle and high-school by a group of girls and boys and though I reported it, not a single person did anything. Even though our scho… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/03/21 05:30 PM |
| 2 | We should teach all people INCLUDING men that it's OK to assert your needs, desires and set boundaries on othersNot sure. I know I never encountered any. But there are some more positive models for dating/relationship advice for men such as Mark Manson. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/21 09:20 PM |
| 1 | The reality of dating and romantic relationships in the modern worldThis is extremely interesting and eye opening! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/21 11:47 AM |
| 2 | The reality of dating and romantic relationships in the modern worldI'm not gay but have had sexual experiences with other men (back in my 20s when I was experimenting) and I've noticed that in the gay community. A lot of gay men are attracted to straight presenting men because of their "dominance". In fact, the partner who I was fooling around with would rant about it quite frequently. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/21 11:46 AM |
| 1 | I'm sorry if this is off topic. But what is with other men's subs on reddit being more concerned with maintaining the image of feminism than with the lived experiences of men?A lot of feminists in power are anti-egalitarian (under the disguise of being for equality). But in my own personal experiences, feminists tend to agree with most of the things that I believe, and honestly, the worst offenders are the loudest, skew male (male feminists are my least favorite kind for a variety of reasons), and are the most active in the community. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/21 09:08 AM |
| 2 | Hi! Visiting Redditor Surveying this subredditI so very strongly agree with your last point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/21 05:35 AM |
| 3 | Hi! Visiting Redditor Surveying this subredditNot OP, but no. I don't think the right is compatible with men's issues after reading some of the works of Ernest Belford Bax and how socialism and leftist ideologies is really at the root of the men's movement. The main reason why the right is not ideologically compatible with men's issues (most of the time, Vox Party in Spain has helped men to a degree but I don't like the rest of their platform) is because the focus on individualism, nationalism, traditionalism etc are the very attitudes that… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/21 05:35 AM |
| 6 | Hi! Visiting Redditor Surveying this subredditPornography. Are you anti porn completely, do you just hate the industry in its modern form, do you support erotica but not hardcore, etc. Pro-Porn. I think the industry does have a lot of problems and there might need to be regulation around the sale, licensing and distribution of porn (not to mention issues with child-porn showing up on pornhub and other sites--I've never seen any myself but there is evidence that there are some out there) Mens studies programs around the US and their effectiv… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/21 05:29 AM |
| 18 | Does being born a man make me a monster?No. That's it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/21 05:16 AM |
| 3 | We should teach all people INCLUDING men that it's OK to assert your needs, desires and set boundaries on othersDon't listen to feminist talking heads on the internet. Don't listen to any red-pill nonsense either. Listen to a therapist. Listen to your father, and listen to men around you who are in healthy relationships. Honest to God, the internet is the worst place for men to get dating advice or any advice on how to relate to women, especially in a romantic setting. I fell into that trap in my 20s and it lead to 2 horrible relationships where I was victimized by emotional and physical abuse from my par… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/21 05:16 AM |
| 1 | I'm sorry if this is off topic. But what is with other men's subs on reddit being more concerned with maintaining the image of feminism than with the lived experiences of men?Feminists exist on a case by case basis. Its hard to generalize all of their beliefs because they're kinda scattered an all over the place. I hold many feminist values, but I am not afraid to criticize feminist and feminism when I see others who hold quasi-sexist views. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/21 05:10 AM |
| 0 | I'm sorry if this is off topic. But what is with other men's subs on reddit being more concerned with maintaining the image of feminism than with the lived experiences of men?Eh, don't be an anti-feminist. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/21 02:29 PM |
| 11 | Leader of the UK Labour Party claims the majority of violent crime is committed against women.Here's another note: The breakdown of male and female victims differed by the type of violence, with females accounting for a larger proportion of victims of violence without injury than males (57% compared with 43%), but males accounting for a larger proportion of victims of violence with injury (53% compared with 47%, Figure 7). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/21 02:27 PM |
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