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Ok, that's fair, and one of the more balanced perspectives of the redpill ideas that I have heard. I'm willing to admit that my view may have been coloured by your more extreme advocates, like your mods, approved submitted, and roosh's guys. I think your take is quite moral, insofar as it doesn't include hurting/misleading/manipulating someone else for your pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 05:58 PM
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Wut? I think it is immoral to use a normal guy for dinner if I have no attraction to him. I would not do that. I thought that was pretty much standard. I don't owe him sex, obviously, but it's a jerk heinous move to cynically go to dinner with someone I have no interest in even becoming friends with. However, what if someone is operating under much different standards? Amoral standards? What if they have no higher view of a social contract, and just believe in amoral sexual strategy? How should …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 05:55 PM
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Yes, I am using it correctly, and asking if it is equally acceptable for a woman to apply it likewise, with someone who has explicitly declared himself to be employing amoral strategies. I don't really understand your objection. I am asking if moral systems do not apply to a woman using the same concepts, and hence cannot be judged for anything she does to man within this subset of amoral men. You seem very intent on getting my attention, in many questions, but I don't think you are working from…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 05:47 PM
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I think we may be talking at cross purposes. They explicitly say that their sexual strategy is amoral. It's not a term that I am trying to use to blacken them. I'm fascinated by that, and trying to get at the root of the philosophy, and whether or not it is universally applied. I thank you for your comment, and I think it's interesting that you see redpill behaviour as innately defensive rather than active. Some redpillers do believe that they only pursue women in the hopes of getting something …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 05:40 PM
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Not an actual guy, just a composite. I'm honestly just curious about the morals of it. I assume that they would have to agree that a woman using amoral sexual strategy is equally amoral as they are, but I'm not sure about the philosophical perimeters, or if indeed they are rigorously or consistently defined.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 05:28 PM
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I'm not quite sure that's true, but I think it's interesting that you would see redpillers as a more unified group more likely to behave exactly as predicted. Do you think the act of giving makes someone un-redpill, despite a declared intent to be one?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 05:27 PM
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I think red pillers have pretty firmly agreed that sexual strategy is amoral. I am happy to be corrected, though. It's reiterated often, and by respected contributors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 05:25 PM
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I laughed, but, to be clear, it's not anything I am planning. I'm just curious about the amoral boundaries, if that makes sense. I don't really know how much they are told not to give women things, actually, but it's interesting to find out. For the purposes of the question, lest it get too large, I want to focus on a hypothetical person who actively claims himself to be explicitly a red pill taking alpha. Some of his behaviours support that, but some do not, as with any philosophy. Again, not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 05:24 PM
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Is this a No True Scotsman thing? I somewhat think a fair amount of the guys who now describe themselves as redpill alphas, thanks partly to reddit presence, might indeed still buy things for women. Perhaps not, though. Does the act of buying dinner for a woman render one automatically un-redpill? I don't really know the logistics of it. Would other redpillers agree that any purchases negate alpha status? Does an alpha buying something for a woman overide his stated intention to be a redpill man…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 05:19 PM
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