Really long and got confused. Ur take is this monogamy was not normal and many men not getting laid is a societal correction. Society is going to be a polygyny. So a few men will get majority of women and when this happens history shows that there will be consequences?
So women will have their fun and give best sex to attractive men. Then after her fun she will choose men for stability and have kids with him. He will not get her at her best
So then the majority of women r lying. Interesting cause women always deny it. I always believed both men and women can have casual sex difference is that women’s standards are higher so she actually has to like them. Hence why I can see ur point
How do I resent women? Sounds like u got defensive. Maybe it’s just projection that neither ur dad nor ur man actually love. Man up? That sounds like toxic gender norms.
I mean women expect men to be 6’5 or taller and be very attractive plus a millionaire and have high status. Back in the day women were more modesty and had lower body counts
Height is associated with being masculine? Why do women describing their men like this applauded but if a men says his women has nice hips/big breasts and very thin they get attacked
Men like women have dreams. I think the following is what women want: They want to have fun and sleep with who they want judgment free. They want careers where they can become important and rich. But they also want kids but don’t want to be primary parent or caregiver. They want a man that is very attractive and rich that will take care of kids so it does not interrupt her career.
I see that a lot. Women do place value on men’s money or ability to make money. They also judge heavily on looks and height. So much for men being pigs and women having sympathy/empathy
When the women earn more I have always seen that the husband is very attractive. A lot of former high school athletes who got no where in life. The women are mostly okay looking or ugly. I have seen some happiness but a lot of bitterness. They envy beautiful women and relationships where the men earn more and are able to provide luxury lifestlye. What do those husbands do for work?
Interesting hypocrisy of women. They have no problem with casual sex but don’t want men that watch porn. They made rules for some men but broke them for others. Height came up and they a mixture of things. Apparently many think it’s a joke that women want 6ft or taller
I once read an article on female attraction to men. One of the big traits that made women attracted to certain men was the power of emotion that they make her feel. I do believe that men that Risk nothing get nothing
Money matters to men and women. For the most part women do not give money to men. Women like men’s number one thing they want is looks. She wants an attractive, tall, wealthy(required) and high status men. That is what that player is
I mean u have sold that content. U use men giving them hopes or fantasy but u talk about how they r inferior and not worthy of being with u. Funny that all women say sex does not matter but sure act differently
I can see this. It’s why women stay with bad men/cheaters/abusers it’s that social proof. If he has high social status(money can be there as well) then her friends and social circle will admire her
Women can have height requirements. However this feed into patriarchy and toxic gender norms. Having the men be bigger for use of protection and violence
So last part is alpha fucks beta bucks. The majority of women care about looks and not personality. OP can be the biggest male feminist and get 0 action if he is ugly. Women are not lining up to be with a male feminist if he is ugly
I mean women do like casual sex. Worked with people in nightlife and he told me the island amount of women cheating on partners including brides to be and wives.
I always hear women say they will hook up and date hot guys for men but never serious. They say serious relationship the guy has to be same in looks or uglier
This is what I learned from this post and this sub. Women want taller men because they want to be protected by a taller men. Women now say that height does not define strength.
At a previous job I worked with couples. For the most part higher income couples the women will always be attractive. Regardless of dude’s look. Did not really see attractive women with poor men.
Explain the no fault divorces repeal being a problem. Marriage is important so it should be harder to get out of. Otherwise there needs to be alimony reforms
U r a women? Women do not avoid dangerous places as long as there is fun or attractive men for hook ups. A lot of them r not at home they are hooking up with other men. Men are going to be victims of crime or violence.
I think a frustration comes from this men when they only see the positives. You can for most part get casual sex and relationships. Plus that attention women do like when it’s from men they want.
It’s upholding patriarchy as saying that men should always be bigger and women should be weaker and smaller. Same mentality could be said as men thinking women should not work because they have monthly periods.
It’s all about guys being good looking, having actual social life, money or status. I know dudes that I think are ugly losers but cause their family is important they get action
There is not that much difference between men and women. Women place worth on men based on physical and economic characteristics. Listen o how women talk about ugly or short men. Yet other women applaud them. Women don’t like patriarchy yet they uphold many parts of it. U didn’t answer my question
I always thought this was given. Women will hook up with hot guys for fun. But for most part those men don’t want difficult lives with those women. Hence uglier will put up with bad parts of life to be with that women
Cause there is demand and old has allowed them to filter. See they don’t realize that they r only used for sex. That is all. Besides sex what do they actually offer ?
It would take massive changes in society by women. I have seen a lot of women go for those men for men but settle for actual relationships. Multiple women have said they want the guy to like them more than vice versa
They don’t always eat their cake. They r mad at a point that the men they want does not want to commit to them. If she hooked up with athletes or male models. Those men don’t want to commit so she has to settle. Hence why they r mad
People say 80 % of women go for 20 percent of men. I always thought it was 65 go after 35. Women absolutely care about looks. However status/social capital can make men very attractive.
There are statistics which show shorter men commit suicides more than other groups of people because of romantic rejection. Are women to blame for this?
I swear there is truth to this. Women have certain physical and economic requirements. They can get attention, intimacy and somewhat of a relationship with this men. For the most part this men only want blank with them. They don’t care much about her job or status. So this women get mad that this guys r not committing since she has actual attraction to them and he just wants sex. This is why they get mad since they say I have a job/career why is that not attractive.
I think it’s two things. One it’s a lie. They do it but not how those women want it to be done. Second those men are getting a lot of action so they are not putting forth any effort
I bet is she got bored. Bored that he was more successful and she wanted to relive her days of youth. That is what I have seen majority of times. Women not happy and wanting sex from different men.
A big one that people on mainstream don’t want to talk about is women’s sexual selection. Women can sleep with more attractive men but those men don’t want to commit. So it frustrates women that these men sleep with them but don’t want relationship with them. Since for women they actually need to have attraction unlike men.
There are also 0 social or other types of repercussions for women for doing this. In the past and other societies there is shunning or not supporting anymore hence why it’s not pronounced
What if it’s social and economic? Reminds me of Asian women and white guys. They are 25% of interracial couples. Asian women reject Asian men by calling them weak and saying they look like their sibling. They go for white men for social and economic reasons but not black men who are also American.
Ur first suggestion would not work as it’s illegal. I think a lot of frustration is the lies men were told by everyone which was women go for personality as they are not visual and like “nice guys”. Reality is that women mostly go for looks but there are other ways that they can find u attractive. Lastly I do believe women do this and they always make themselves to appear perfect. Women want to act like they are better than men in everything including morally. So then admitting to only liking me…
Absolutely. If their husbands looked like brad Pitt then their libido would not be at 0. It’s why friend zone exists as well. It’s not cause they see u as a friend it’s all due to looks.
Men will cheat and still come back home and not ruin their marriage. They r still willing to sleep with wives. When women cheat it’s different. They will ruin everything and take all money.
So private planes and yachts. Living in big houses with pools. Traveling all over the world and staying in best hotels and resorts. That creates no attraction? Someone making six figures is very different than a millionaire or above.
It’s because women want to portray and present themselves as the enlightened superior sex. They say only men go after looks and are superficial and don’t value a women’s intelligence or personality. Yet we know the truth that women place a heavy importance on looks. Specially for hooking up and if they admitted then they would be seen as worse than men.
I don’t believe AF/BB all the time but it’s always been there. Women want certain men for fun or hook up only. Then they choose other men to marry. Check out other subs and women talk about it. Their old bfs or partners even celebrities
Cause women want the same top guys. Ugly and normal women like attractive men and only for most part want them. It could be said that due to their jobs and salaries they believe that this top men will be impressed but for most part they won’t. Attractive will hook up for most part with majority of women but won’t commit to them. Women believe it’s a relationship
Question for ladies. Women say that they want to break gender norms with women having to leave workforce to raise kids. That men should be able to raise kids and not them because if equality. Yet women support their gender norms by mostly wanting a taller partner so they can feel safe and secure. Why can’t you defend and protect yourself? Also why is it okay to uphold this green norm?
U r correct to a point. Men should work on becoming more attractive. Taking better care of skin and getting more in shape. Dressing better and getting better hairstyles
That’s called reality. Women were interested but he was not cause they were ugly. I mean he is not attractive either. Friend zone only exists cause women don’t like u.
U r not counting for change in politics and economics. That right there is the main thing. This is what influences. A lot of men and women have bs jobs in big cities and companies can pay cause all the money printed.
In my career I have seen this. I would check their incomes so they could get approved for purchases. If there was a beautiful women very high chance that the husband was rich. Never saw a rich men with an ugly women
For every situation like this I see two things. One the husband is very attractive to women so she takes care of everything in the marriage. She is very unattractive. Very rarely have I seen this. Second is women being resentful that their partner does not work. This is what I really see. Her friends and family won’t like it and neither will she
Why women deny number 5 is so telling. They get really angry and violent. Friend zone does not exist for men because it’s mostly about looks. Women like guy friends because they can vent, except to always help them and pay for their things. Like GF treatment but no romantic attraction. Maybe that’s why some guys feel led on
Women talking about their body positive thoughts but don’t like shorter men. Women not liking their partners looking at certain content online but they dress and act like that themselves. Women saying no to traditional gender roles but won’t ask out or propose to men. The men has to make more money and be bigger so she can feel protected.
I believe and recognize money is not important. I am just curious. Why are women not asking out and proposing to men that meet all requirements but don’t make the same or more money. Not calling women gold diggers just curios
Correct. Women don’t have to settle as they make their own income. Why marry and sacrifice ur life and have kids. Now u can have income and hook up with as many as guys as possible. That’s more fun to them
It’s cause Leo was attractive. If Leo had been cal then movie would make no sense. Say she and Leo survived and lived fantasy. I wonder if she would have been happy being middle class and not wealthy. Women chime in
For my experience for the most part. Women will share men for hook up/fun. They will stop when it’s for resources. It’s funny about that cause she don’t want him for sex just for money
Then it’s something else not height. There is a 5’3 billionaire married to a 6’3 model. Look over social media and men that height are dating/hooking up with 6ft women. U really saying women around that height will overlook money/status because of that height?
There are always exemptions. For the most part women will hook up with broke/poor guys a long as they r hot. For swipe is relationship they will only look above them. Even Sotomayor said she did not want to be Supreme Court judge as there would be no men on her level
U r a women by the way u wrote this. It’s not about intimidation. The majority of those women won’t want majority of men. They have a higher bar for looks and income. Hence why men don’t pursue them
I guess u proved that stat. U only have relationships with men that have slept with lots of women. U are aware that is not the majority of men. U have excluded a lot of men as well
It will come up if a guy is serious. People of course ask that because n count changes women. U don’t think if u slept with more people it would not bother him?
But that is not reality. The majority of women are looking for casual sex with a smaller amount of men. I don’t think it’s 80/20 I think it’s more like 65/35.
Men don’t like that women have had more fun and experiences than them. It’s about missing out. Similar to how women always complain about the debunked pay gap or sexism in America
I will give u that. There is truth. Women benefit from male friends by getting rides, having them pay for things, not get hit on, and dumping all their problems on him to vent.
She wouldn’t need one if she is smart. During that time the man pays for everything and gives her allowances and she is able to save up during that time. After her beauty fades some loser will find value in her and pay for all her stuff. Also she could have kids or divorce and gets money from that
People need to control themselves more. Women will share a guy for casual sex cause it’s just sex. But for relationship they won’t as they don’t want to share resources
That part about sex u r spot on and I tell everybody. If a women does not have animal instinct to hook up with u do not get into a relationship because she does not like u and u will get a dead bedroom
