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I think it just seems to be increasing but is only just becoming more open. From my perspective, I'm not seeing more hate towards men so I can't agree. It will affect men but in what way, I do not know. Generally speaking however, if the people who "hate men" actually hate men for existing and aren't just using a catchphrase to represent a more sophisticated disgruntlement of toxicity that resides within traditional masculinity, then they aren't worth associating with. There is indeed a lot to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 07:04 AM
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It's not taking culture into consideration so don't look too hard into it. Do we see this in other nation? What about tribal communities? Just leaves too much open. I'd say it more represents men as they conform to some male culture-specific traits rather than it being a biological representation of male objectification. Our male culture has some undeniably toxic shit embedded within it and some of that is just raw, sexist shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 10:05 AM
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Miss me with the semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:25 AM
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You're not wrong, don't worry. Literally almost all negative traits assigned to one sex, the other sex does. Between anecdotes, cherrypicking, and confirmation bias, we have ideological views that correctly define caricatures and nothing real.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 04:22 AM
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That's a point I can agree on, that it'll never fill a human slot. Trust, tho, the desire for cyborgs or robotics is there and paired with a lifelike body and advanced ai, we'll easily see people pick it over a human.e
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:56 PM
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Don't apply "human nature" to only what's convenient to you as what I'm explaining is also a common occurrence in psychology. Some people will tire, some will be attached. Interestingly enough, lonliness is itself a cause for human attachment to objects. We even have a word for it: anthropomorphism. It's a thing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism People will get attached, especially when it exhibits human-like characteristics on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:36 PM
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You definitely have an opinion, but that doesn't make it fact. People obsess over their car or purse, their phone, their roomba, anything. People often attach human sentiments to non-human things. We do it enough to make it an active trick by putting googly eyes on things we don't want to lose. With strong ai and a well designed body, it's not impossible to imagine people preferring that over a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 06:46 PM
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I disagree. Humans routinely assign personalities and feelings to objects, so a convincing ai might receive not just the same treatment but even further.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:40 AM
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Stop making sense, that's not welcome here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 03:27 AM
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He doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 08:02 AM
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Probably the post above me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 05:58 PM
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Best response if you fearmonger about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:08 PM
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Best response.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:07 PM
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That's pretty understandable. Just keep in mind that reddit or its subreddits aren't necessarily the best sample of an overall population.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 07:45 AM
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That's cool. Doesn't really change what I said. I shouldn't have to explain that life isn't black or white and that groups have fuzziness to their edges. What I said still applies, two different groups. While, yeah, you can find people who address real issues while also themselves being a part of said issue, they don't then outrepresent the larger majority who more often fall into the respective categories. Generally speaking, people who observe the toxicity of traditional masculinity aren't the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 07:41 AM
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Because you're talking about two different groups. Pretty sure you won't find many people against nazis but also say, "fuck those jews, though, for real."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 05:47 AM
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TRP doesn't win anything; people just get tired of arguing the same nonsense points over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:56 AM
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Some have, but I'd wager most have not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:47 PM
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I'd have to disagree. I'd argue they're getting looser as more attention is drawn to the restricted nature of traditional male gender roles while also creating safe-spaces wherein men of all ages can come and express themselves. Fuither, women are rapidly becoming sole breadwinners, removing the burden from being a man thing. Along with the increase of stay-at-home fathers, I'd say men are finally getting to breathe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 07:51 AM
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I'd say it's more of gender stereotypes again. For men, emotional anything is seen as weak, unmanly, and undesirable so you don't have much catering to the emotional well-being of men. On top of that is the male tendency to avoid asking for help and a woman's pressure for men to fill the roles they taught to expect. All of this stems from antiquated gender roles that are, thankfully, changing to something healthier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:36 AM
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Yes, yes they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:13 PM
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He talks to zero women. With a lot of these posts, spending even a few minutes with a woman shows how absurd this stuff is. You can literally just be a reliable guy and you're already well on your way to pussytown.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:12 PM
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So every man that a woman has strong sexual attraction to is an alpha? Doesn't that make the brother in Napoleon Dynamite an alpha because of the strong attraction the black woman had in him?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:09 PM
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The thing is that it doesn't matter. Women seriously don't care about alpha or beta. These ideas are, at best, a play on traditional gender roles, and that's been heading out for years now. To me, if there's anyone that's a "beta", it's the people who obsess over the whole alpha/beta shit. Not saying you do, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:03 PM
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If they find them attractive, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:00 PM
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I agree with all of this except for the very last sentence. This ignores the difficulties women face, and that's just as unreasonable as women forgetting our difficulties. Their struggles are different but not lesser or trivial. They have gender roles and expectations that cripple them, too, just as we do, and the standards for the sexes become expectations for the opposing sex. It's not hard to imagine that women, who've learned to look for the culturally accepted standards for a "man", would e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:13 PM
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Men get to choose in general, although your options do diminish when you meet less and less of the silly cultural standards for your sex. The same goes for women. That said, yeah, it seems obvious that both compete and choose. Idk why anyone would think otherwise. As for the hardwiring of men and women to compete, while that might be true, I'd say that the manner and style of competition that we see within our current society is a wile perversion of what we might otherwise naturally see.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 05:08 AM
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Or an academic? Are you saying the people who read, study, research, and learn are equal to those who are intellectually disabled?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 05:03 AM
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Shouldn't parade it like it's the common outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 03:53 AM
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You you're trying to pick the most commonly unattractive men to make your point? There are average looking men who can also fill those roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 07:50 PM
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I mean, a preference for healthy and active makes sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 05:21 PM
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I have been cheated on, and I still don't give the Red Pill any validity. Experiences can run parallel to expectations if we cherrypick, and that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 09:50 PM
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There's little repercussion, and that is its own issue. Not often are the accused arrested, and not often does the accusation even harm their lives. And there's an entire group of men who can't fuck that hate women and even cheer when they get killed (incels). Don't try to paint this as "equal on all sides". Rapists (including women) rape, and victims (including men) rarely come forward and, when they do, are often not believed or never reach a conclusion due to the inherent challenges that come…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 09:56 PM
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They have no answers, man. They just want to call women sinister supervillains and cherrypick their situations to validate the nonsense claims. My favourite is how they want to assume that each "false claim" ruins the lives of the accused and that isn't even true. My friend was raped by her husband and even has his confession on four separate recording. He still wasn't convicted, and his life hasn't changed in the slightest. Another friend of mine was raped and, while still covered in bruises, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 05:13 AM
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Thank god I see some reason here. Everyone seems so bent on trying to prove that false rape accusations are a frequent thing, but they make no attempt to explain why someone would do such a thing, nor do they address how frequent the accused go on with no problem. Rather, they only focus on those who did have their lives ruined. Further, they don't seem to care that rape claims that had insufficient evidence are also rounded into the "false" claim. It's just, "I wanna believe that women are stup…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 05:08 AM
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They do just as we have varying standards of what we find acceptable based on how much we like a person. For the court ruling that touching the waist was sexual, I'd consider that an entirely different issue. Rapists frequently escape punishment, and rape often has manipulative factors to it that keep people trapped mentally. Abusers in general use certain tactics to create doubt and to shift responsibility onto the victim, so it's not hard to imagine victims returning back to the abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 05:46 PM
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Not going to lie, idr what the initial comment was, and backtracking with the phone while tired is hell. Edit: It was just a fast boop in response. The picture seems too easy to validate the absurd notion that false rape claims are high and common. While false rape accusations can ruin lives (not an always thing), and while false claims are a problem, it is (to the best we can see with the information that exists and basic reasoning) a rare event. I'll be the first to admit that basic reasoning …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 12:19 AM
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Free will is a decision uninfluenced by any other factors. Nothing controls or sways your choice, it's just your decision raw and unfettered. The issue is that once you have a cause or reason for a decision, it is no longer an unimpeded and "free" decision, and it then becomes cause -> effect, aka determinism. Free will conceptually is chaos, with everyone behaving with no rhyme or reason, and with no predictability. Patterns would be mere coincidence, and every action anyone makes will be as im…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 12:18 AM
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The grief that accusers face when coming forward will be the same grief the false accusers face, too. Society isn't going to just suddenly act different because you're secretly lying. Ideally, accusers would have a supportive network. Realistically, they rarely do. Christine Ford is a special case for that reason, but it's not a rare outcome and backlash. She's not the only accuser to receive death threats. https://www1.eeoc.gov/eeoc/task_force/harassment/report.cfm?renderforprint=1 Not gonna li…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 09:44 PM
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I think you downplay how important having people believe in you can be, and having those around you call you a liar is incredibly destructive when dealing with rape. That, also, is just the tip of the iceburg. Accusers also experience literal threats on their lives. Look at Christine Ford. She received death threats and was relocated for safety. Accusers get isolated from friends who find their accusation shameful, embarrassing, or otherwise some negative term. It can even affect job opportuniti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 08:08 PM
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I hope you understand that our biological desires swaying our actions make it deterministic. Once you apply reason or cause, it then stops being free will. Those fields study, literally, the deterministic factors of life that affect, control, modify, discourage, or otherwise create behaviour and cognition. Just saying that you believe in it isn't proof of its existence. We see how an abusive or neglectful childhood is related to aggression, depression, suicide, and various other affects; they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 07:51 PM
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It's also how people react, too. People aren't nearly as supportive as you think they are for rape victims. The damage from the rape is also a severe factor for a number of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 07:49 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 02:58 AM
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It's not rape, then. I expected you to deny the notion that free will isn't real. No, I'm fairly confident it's not real. Neurology, Psychology, and Sociology are all fields of study about how human behaviour and cognition are manipulated and affected, how little we actually control. How do you explain people who don't always make the best decisions to every event or problem in their lives? Do you think they're willingly suffering? You can blame the market and the advertising. Regardless, no one…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 02:57 AM
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Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 01:29 AM
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This sounds awfully like, "they chose to do a drug, so they chose addiction." That's not how it works. Getting drunk doesn't warrant getting raped, period. You being too drunk doesn't give me the rights to run that anus out because you never gave consent. Blaming the drunk moves responsibility off the person violating autonomy and onto the unconscious. The same could be said for if you fell asleep, too. Honestly, I'd say it's the fault of the marketing and tobacco companies who advertise, associ…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 07:48 PM
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But what about the innocent people affected by the actions of the guilty parties? You're putting one above many. You can't focus on the innocence of one and ignore the rest. Here, let me give you a better argument: Going to prison is going to prison is going to prison. It's unchangingly bad with long-term repercussions. Crime, however, is not crime is not crime. Having some pills isn't the same as rape, which isn't shoplifting, which isn't murder, etc. You get the drill. What constitutes "guilty…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 07:39 PM
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The life of the accuser is not "scot-free", and the saying is absurd as well. Three guilty rapists who have become rapists after robbing autonomy, dignity, and safety from their victims will then go on to repeat their crime, resulting in more suffering. I'd rather have a system that succeeds but occasionally places an innocent behind bars than is so lenient that multiple guilty offenders walk and re-commit. You don't suffer more to protect less. That logic is backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:21 PM
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I'm not sure if you're aware of what the accusers go through. It's no parade and relaxation. The reasoning the three times the real cases are false assumes that of all the victims who come forward truthfully to seek help and justice and face ridicule, social estrangement, the loss of friends/loved ones (not, like, by death), being fired, death threats, assault, etc., three times more would shoulder the burden just to pull one over on another person is insane. It lacks reasoning. It lacks any log…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:56 PM
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Jesus christ, is that a serious question? It is an issue and it does come up. You know, I got to witness this irl. One friend (male) got drunk with another friend (female). Both drunk. She was getting sexual with the guy (just, like, on the couch in the open). Another drunk female, in no way involved, comes over, strips the first girl, and begins to go down on her. All parties drunk, was the second girl in the clear to do what she did? There was no prior consent in any way (as the first girl rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:33 PM
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Honestly, I feel like I addressed this in another comment. Unless I'm misunderstanding something, I never at any point said this was the end all, be all study, but it's some of what information we do have on the topic. This, paired with the social/legal/economical ramifications with rape accusations (true or false) do not lend itself to a high rate. Shit, the 6ish percent it suggests is still high to me, but I can believe it. It takes a real dysfunctional person to do something so cruel, but rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:24 PM
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I'm also sure that a rare, small percentage are. What I'm referring to is the demonizing of almost all rape claims as just fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 12:39 PM
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The default is no unless otherwise stated by the people involved. We assume their autonomy, not our convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 07:46 AM
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I think that's a different issue entirely :/ I'm in full belief that it takes an unstable person to do something so metaphorical (sometimes literally) suicidal like a false rape claim, especially when rape victims struggle just to be able to tell the truth. I'm sorry you went through that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:40 AM
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Like I said in other comments, claiming rape is social/economical suicide. Very few want to shoulder that when it's true, and way less when there's nothing to gain. Less common than rape by a huge margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:34 AM
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No one should assume that it's okay to throw your back out just because you didn't/can't tell them no. If you get too drunk, then you get too drunk. Obviously, I do agree that there are much safer and better places, but that still doesn't absolve the rapist; it just brings into light an unrelated issue of the now-raped person's decision making skills on getting drunk there. The latter: on the victim. The former: no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:33 AM
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I couldn't resist when I saw that silliness. To highlight, he said that what's shown is that half to over three/fourths of rape accusations are false. That many people do it just out of spite or for fun, and that rape isn't a common thing. That the risk I pointed out is considered logically trivial enough for it to happen this much. But I'm spreading propaganda. We see where his views lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:20 AM
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For those people who do suffer from false claims, I'd wish for justice, but the social damage is almost unfixable. People don't let go, and they'll bring up any smear just for the damaging factor, even if it's misleading. Which, of course, is the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:09 AM
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I can get behind that. Even still, the point was that it's not as high as it's often spun to be. Someone just spent time highlighting that there's a lot of other claims and cases that go nowhere, and that there could be more false rape claims in it. I get that, but it takes an already unstable person to risk so much just to get one over on someone. Not only is there now a stigma on the unfortunate person on which the false claim was made, but now there's a stigma on the accuser, too. We don't ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:07 AM
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I'm not filling the gap with anything. We know what we know, so we should work with what we know. Don't implant your fears into what we don't know and think it proves anything. I'm not spreading any propaganda, nor am I at any point agreeing with that notion. It's not a full stop because we do have some research to work with and build off of. I explained the leap in logic a person has to have to assume it's a frequent occurrence in the first place, mentioned the common experiences people coming …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:01 AM
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And that's where you fill the gap with your own agenda, yeah. I've read the report as well. As it stands, the information we have suggests a high rarity of false rape claims, period. We have what we currently have. You can't just appeal to ignorance and think you have something. You're on the basis that women are just manipulative and cunning villians rather than just normal human beings. There is an obvious inherent difficulty in rape claims, but just being on the assumption that they're just l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:16 AM
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No, that's not what I said, either. At all. Just because you disagree doesn't make it false or fake. Like I said, I posted one link, referenced the other (as I couldn't figure out how to share the link). Make sure to check it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 04:51 AM
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No?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 04:48 AM
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Did you read the link and see the other? They specifically talk about false accusations. You can't just appeal to ignorance and say I'm wrong because we don't know every tiny fact and detail. As it stands, it's roughly 6%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 04:48 AM
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Depends. The false allegations that do occur do ruin lives, but they're often brought up as though they're a common occurence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 03:43 AM
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That's a meaningless statement. No one can say anything with absolute certainty. However, we can use statistics to see it, and other people have done this. https://psmag.com/news/false-reports-of-sexual-assault-are-rare-but-why-is-there-so-little-reliable-data-about-them There's a pdf link I wanted to send, but I honestly don't know how on a phone. It's a pdf from the National Sexual Violence Research Centre on false rape allegations. Often conflated to be higher because cases lacking evidence o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 03:21 AM
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This, to me, feeds into the notion that rape allegations are just regret or misunderstandings. I'm not on board.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 03:01 AM
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It does, but the rate is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 03:00 AM
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What's "the wall"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 08:58 AM
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I'd say that sex bias is the biggest thing holding them back. Women take criticism just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:12 AM
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Intelligence matters because I love discussion and the sharing of ideas. I can smash someone who isn't intelligent, but I can't date someone who isn't at least close.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 11:08 PM
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Until culture stops telling men that their identity is found in sex, it won't stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 09:51 PM
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For a guy to introduce sexual content early seems almost self-serving than thinking about the other person. Start with them being a human before you work towards the sexual stuff, especially since women already deal with copious sexual things to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 12:18 AM
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I'm talking about both. Starting with or introducing sexual content early (unless the other person is you) is a good way to turn them off. Unless it's you. Get it? Everyone who isn't looking for a sexually forward person (a lot of women are like that) disapprove of the forwardness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 12:14 AM
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That's cool. I said that what you stated is good for you, but not for every woman. Men being sexual with all women all the time is a big problem women tend to have in the first place. Your advice is relevant for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 11:29 PM
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This is now a circle. Refer to the first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:58 PM
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Being desirable doesn't necessitate sexualization.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:44 PM
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I believe you, but it's still not a good general rule for guys to start with. With you, that might be something worth mentioning from the start, or it helps you be more selective in your search. If every guy started sexually for you, it'd become harder to identify who's a worthwhile pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:21 PM
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That's not how you should start, no. In fact, that's actually a common deterrent for women. Sexual tension and intentions can come in later, but not at the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:17 PM
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Women don't just throw themselves at wealth, but some do. A lot of this subreddit hard pigeonholes women to seriously only go after power or wealth, but that's legit far from the case. If that were so, then we'd see waaaay more single men than we do now while only the top 1% of society would be swarmed in pussy. Women get to choose just like men do. Much like with women, there will inevitably be some men who are just alone. Nothing is going to fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 07:13 AM
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Yes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:03 PM
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Women want the capacity to exist outside the traditional role, as that role confines them to dependency to a male. They also want the ability to do the hard manual labour that men typically do without being overlooked or socially/culturally blocked and rejected as they often are, and I think some here forget that. Men support the traditional role for women as it places them more in our control. Also, as men are brought up under the traditional masculine role, the need for women as a means of ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 11:29 PM
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Just means women earn more. Not much really changes. Perhaps they'll rush less into relationships, but that's probably it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 04:31 AM
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Isn't this an issue all developing countries go through?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:11 PM
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I'd argue that it's not true for either men or women. People have their own qualifications for a best fit partner, and it's not always going to be the most alpha-y alpha of the pack. It's factual nonsense. I'm living with a woman right now who's dating someone who'd easily be seen as "beta", and she's very satisified with her relatonship. It's projection, for sure, but that of insecurity. Some people probably aim to pick for the treetop, but as a general rule, no; they want their own happiness. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 12:37 PM
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Then why did you post it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 12:33 PM
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The key takeaway is at the end when she says that looks shouldn't override character. Otherwise, there's no objective scale women look to for "hotties". What one woman likes and sees as an 8 could easily be someone else's 4. The more averagey middle for most women overlap, so you have greater odds just working on being a decent person than focusing on being alpha attractive. Edit: spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 12:14 PM
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Some of the stuff I read on here is wild, this included. The "badboy" way of approaching women is rarely ever right, and if that's the kind of person they want, then they're probably not the woman you want. As much as people don't like to hear it, women want to know who they're getting with just like we'd want. Be yourself. If they don't want you, then that's that, nothing can be done about it. You go in fake, that's a standard you have to hold forever. Fuck that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 07:43 AM
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Sexual reproduction is why men and women are likely to pair up. There isn't an even number, either, and some men pair with men, women with women. It's just nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 06:23 PM
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It's because they can. Higher sociao-economic status opens higher socio-economic access. If you could have better, wouldn't you take it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 05:02 PM
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Idk if women do it more than men, but specifying dislikes leaves more options than specifying likes, as the specifics are more precise and don't act as a large general net. Saying "I don't like a partner that's six feet or more tall" leaves a lot open, whereas saying "I like my partner around my height" really narrows it down. Focusing negatives leaves more opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 10:02 PM
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Different strokes for different folks. I prefer open relationships. Feels comfortable to not limit myself or my partner physical and/or emotional experience to just one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 12:56 AM
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