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| 1 | Is height really that important?You know how tall Prince was? 5'3". He was one of THE biggest sex symbols that the world has ever seen. Women CRAVED him. Go check the height of all these hollywood heart throbs like tom cruise or dave franco. How about Usher? Bruno Mars? I know you're probably thinking "oh but these guys are rich and famous that doesnt help me" and yes these guys do have extraordinary circumstances otherwise BUT it shows you that height doesn't preclude you from being a woman's sexual fantasy. Its not about hei… | /r/seduction | 06/01/22 07:13 PM |
| 1 | I feel so angry and dissappointed because of approach anxietysure thing, dm me. | /r/seduction | 20/10/21 12:41 AM |
| 1 | I feel so angry and dissappointed because of approach anxietyDM me, i can wing you. If you arent near me then I can reach out to my community. | /r/seduction | 16/09/21 02:13 AM |
| 2 | I feel so angry and dissappointed because of approach anxietyThis is quality advice. Practical and effective. I'm endorsing this approach. | /r/seduction | 15/09/21 02:13 AM |
| 1 | I feel so angry and dissappointed because of approach anxietyI'd urge you to re evaluate your approach if you are not being yourself. A mantra in my community is that "sincerity is the essence of charisma". You shouldn't be faking. Humans are great at detecting fakers and youll fall into that unappealing uncanny valley. Be yourself, be sincere, but make sure that you are capable of emoting it clearly. If you aren't sincerely experiencing those positive, attractive emotions then you have a problem waaay upstream of the open. | /r/seduction | 15/09/21 02:11 AM |
| 3 | I feel so angry and dissappointed because of approach anxietyLean into the anxiety next time you are experiencing it. Explore it. Where is it coming from? What are you anxious about? Fully embrace it. I find if you familiarize yourself with it and then work through it logically you eventually will find the source of it and, from there, a way to address it. In the meantime make sure you have a supportive wingman and entourage. Do you chase skirts with guys that support you? Are they high fiving you to death even if you get rejected? Get your team straight. | /r/seduction | 15/09/21 02:08 AM |
| 0 | How do I get dates? Is 23 too late for me to start dating?lemme give you the link to the manual my PUA community gives its new members. Its a down and dirty on the basics to get you started. Its a good place to start. Remember tho: theres no substitute for experience. Get out and start taking reps. https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Mrbqiq\_JLFn8hqqxJjjqB63MvqQptBS/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=104239849533469051862&rtpof=true&sd=true | /r/seduction | 15/09/21 02:00 AM |
| 12 | Is it wrong to ask a girl for her permission before I go for a kiss?Alright lemme speak directly to your questions. Did you mess up your chance with her? No. It doesn't appear that you have. Time will tell. You're still in the running, just keep going forward running the best game that you can. "Is it wrong to ask a girl for her permission before I go for a kiss?" Morally? No. In fact that's the most explicit way to receive consent. But I would be remiss if I didn't admit that explicitly asking for a kiss can have a detrimental effect on you success with that gi… | /r/seduction | 15/09/21 01:33 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]Agreed. The community could use you brother. | /r/seduction | 14/09/21 10:29 PM |
| 3 | Dk what to talk aboutHey no problem brother! Good luck out there | /r/seduction | 14/09/21 10:24 PM |
| 2 | Techniques/habits to build self confidence?Going solely off your post I think that in order to address your problem you'll have to lend proper consideration to the idea that accomplishments, from which you seek to derive self confidence, don't necessarily hold any intrinsic value. I want to preface this by saying that I'm not taking away from your accomplishments or belittling them, these are obviously impressive achievements and you should take pride in them. What I am trying to say, and excuse me because I'm going to get rather philoso… | /r/seduction | 14/09/21 10:15 PM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]So up front I'll say that a lot of what you said sounds healthy, rational and level headed. A lot of guys, after a bad relationship, will rebound with the absolute first girl they can get to lick their wounds. In emotional distress they will rush head long into a mistake and pay for it later. They won't summon the self control to pause, reflect on themselves and begin the process of self investment. Having a successful career and being financially stable will, among many other things, increase y… | /r/seduction | 14/09/21 08:10 PM |
| 9 | [deleted by user]I appreciate your warning about the presence of those terrible subcultures in the community. I'm new to reddit and am still learning. But I have to disagree with you about that "useless shit". It may be extremely elementary but its seduction nonetheless. When I first joined the subreddit I didn't know what to expect and I'll admit that there was a lot of conversation and questions about basic concepts but that's ok. If nothing else it means that you're at the head of the class. But more importan… | /r/seduction | 14/09/21 07:42 PM |
| 25 | [deleted by user]Stop right where you are. Drop everything and listen to me: Put any fear you have out of your mind. I don't know how you got the impression that approaching a girl because you are romantically interested in her is creepy or morally questionable but that is a pernicious lie. The truth is that girls want to enter into a romantic relationship with a guy. We both want the same thing. When a girl has sex with you she isn't doing you a favor, she isn't submitting to your will, you don't owe her anythi… | /r/seduction | 14/09/21 07:21 PM |
| 11 | [deleted by user]Speak on that. There are incels on this subreddit? Are the questions being asked here not legitimate? | /r/seduction | 14/09/21 06:53 PM |
| 6 | [deleted by user]Yeah I'm gonna have to agree with a lot of this comment. How did the OP get in his head that asking girls out makes him a creep? You see a girl you like, you ask her out. You see a set, you take it down. Of all places on Earth, college is where its most expected and most accepted. Work on the approach, work on the open, self invest so that you are the best version of yourself and then go do work. This may be a revelation to some people but the truth is that women want to get romantically involve… | /r/seduction | 14/09/21 06:50 PM |
| 7 | [deleted by user]In my experience the intersection happened in my late twenties, around 27 or 28. Thirty is the rubicon where the men's stock seems to be higher than the women's. Obviously this is a concept described in population genetics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductive_value_(population_genetics))) and the social sciences (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductive_value_(social_psychology))) so it applies to trends in large populations and individual results may vary. Its good to know this to help… | /r/seduction | 14/09/21 06:38 PM |
| 9 | Dk what to talk aboutToo easy brother. The basic wisdom is ask her about herself. People love to talk about themselves for the most part and they will have a lot to say on the topic (if they care to chat). Ask her what her passions, hobbies, aspirations are. Ask her what she thinks of this or that. Ask her opinion on something, anything. This is the basis of good engaging conversation (what we call “the spit” in my community). If you ask her about herself then you are pretty safe. Obviously every situation is differ… | /r/seduction | 14/09/21 05:35 PM |
| 12 | [deleted by user]Yeah these comments are spot on. Girls in their early twenties are kind of in the peak season of what evolutionary psychologists call their reproductive value. It’s a moment when they are generally seen (by most people) as at their most desirable. Reproductive windows for women are much smaller than for men and so you’ll see that behavior and mating strategies will change and not always remain in sync between the sexes. Women in their early twenties have a reputation of being notoriously fickle … | /r/seduction | 14/09/21 05:17 PM |
| 10 | [deleted by user]good advice. Self Investment will go a long way. I've said it before, Prince was a worldwide sex symbol (at one point literally a symbol) and he was 5'3". You got this brother! | /r/seduction | 14/09/21 01:17 PM |
| 41 | How to be confident when dick size crushes self-esteem?According to the sources cited in the wikipedia article on penis length it seems like 5 in. puts you firmly in the middle of the world's average. Listen brother I know there are size queens out there but every girl is different. For what its worth the last girl I was seeing didn't work out because sex was too painful for her. She didn't enjoy it and our intimacy suffered tremendously to the point that we had to call it quits. Was really hard to take because she was a great girl. Another interest… | /r/seduction | 14/09/21 01:15 PM |
| 1 | The 4 tiers of Openers from fear paralysis to optimizationTOO FREAKING EZ Brother! Lol I'm glad you asked. I admire guys that recognize a problem and want to work on it. First things first, let me tweak your language real quick if you don't mind. I've tried to find solutions, but nothing really works. I'm just not social at all. I've tried to find solutions, but nothing I've tried so far has worked. Im just not as social as I want to be.**** Listen I know this seems pedantic of me but its important to embrace a mindset of optimism and positivity. Lol I… | /r/seduction | 14/09/21 01:40 AM |
| 1 | The 4 tiers of Openers from fear paralysis to optimizationI see. Well the tone of the last sentence in your post has a sort of resignation in it if im reading it correctly. I'd be more than happy to provide some advice (and I think I can provide you with some useful help on this particular problem) but I know that unsolicited advice can be really annoying so if you are not seeking to try and surmount these problems then I'll just wish you, truly, the best of luck. I hope that things do end up working out for you, and you should always remember that you… | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 08:34 PM |
| 2 | The 4 tiers of Openers from fear paralysis to optimizationBrother I could not agree with you more! Especially in the early days of PUA there was some scum out there. Unfortunately because of that, for a lot of people outside the community PUA carries a negative connotation. There's kind of a hippy dippy concept that our community talks about called the "The Grand Unifying Theory of Cooperation" and basically it says that at the end of the day, when you cut through the bullshit, we all want the same thing. We have a common goal. We want to have a good t… | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 07:54 PM |
| 1 | The 4 tiers of Openers from fear paralysis to optimizationlmao Oh No!!!!! Thats a rookie move for sure. I'm glad you guys have gotten in sync though. A good wingman can make all the difference. A bad one will not only decrease chances of success but he can make the whole experience of opening sets unenjoyable. | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 07:43 PM |
| 2 | The 4 tiers of Openers from fear paralysis to optimizationOkay so reading your description, there are some chapters on "Setting" (In particular private settings like parties) that you might find useful. Also that goes hand in hand with the stuff on social value and ways to signal it which are probably the most important aspects of private setting engagement. In short, I think if you are running game successfully but aren't quite getting your engagements over that tipping point then inflating your social value through proper signaling will act as a forc… | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 07:36 PM |
| 1 | The 4 tiers of Openers from fear paralysis to optimizationhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/19Mrbqiq_JLFn8hqqxJjjqB63MvqQptBS/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=104239849533469051862&rtpof=true&sd=true Here's a link to the manual we give new members. The first third is very basic stuff to get guys started and get them up to speed. Then it goes into the important concepts/theories/plays that are an absolute must to know when they come out with us. I hope you find some value in it. Feel free to hit me up if you have any questions! | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 07:08 PM |
| 1 | The 4 tiers of Openers from fear paralysis to optimizationAbsolutely brother! Free your mind from the fear and you'll be amazed at what you are capable of. The biggest problem I see is self doubt. People don't even realize how great they are. Have fun with it! | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 07:04 PM |
| 2 | The 4 tiers of Openers from fear paralysis to optimizationHere's another important insight that I think is integral to The Baltimore Method but I think you might be more advanced and already have at the very least intuited it. We always preach cooperation. We never fight over a set. IN FACT there's a kind of strategy that can help optimize an engagement. We often say "you dont pick the girl, the girl picks you". So when you open a set, play it kind of neutral until someone gets definite vibes and then they pair off. Once a girl pairs off in a set then … | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 06:49 PM |
| 3 | The 4 tiers of Openers from fear paralysis to optimizationYeah brother my community has had some brilliant insights on optimization. Optimization that you will need in the long term because inevitably you will want to find the one. The special girl that you want to cash out on and start making a life together (new members rarely take this into consideration but the Vets in our community say that this is the great revealed truth, the ultimate goal that you will someday realize). The most revolutionary insight that my community developed on optimization … | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 06:37 PM |
| 1 | Is 3-4 seconds of eye contact enough to signal a male stranger that you are interested?I agree with /u/Papa_Musk that if your goal is purely to signal interest to a guy then all you have to do is go approach them. To be honest if a guy's goal is purely to signal to a girl that he's interested then all he has to do is go up and say hi also. As a matter of fact you can literally just approach him and say "hi, I'm interested in you" if you're ultimate goal is just to signal to him that you're interested. And I know that it seems like I'm getting pedantic here and I apologize for that… | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 03:53 PM |
| 3 | The 4 tiers of Openers from fear paralysis to optimizationThanks brother, I hope it can help people! | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 03:35 PM |
| 2 | Sometimes the best effort is no effort.You’re the real MVP! 💪💪 | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Neat little wingman Play (to recover when you forget a name)lol happens all too often. Another last ditch trick you can use is ask them for their number and when you put it in your phone ask them how they spell it. Lol works for names with multiple spellings but it might look weird if her name is Pam. lmao | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 12:00 PM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Lol i apologize. Its a pun. The end of a cigarette is called a "butt" and you put cigarette butts in an ashtray. Likewise a person's ass is also called a butt. So if you get butt that means you get a lot of sex. So what I was saying was not in reference to social media. The jargon surrounding the social networking is a little bit esoteric but I was referring to irl social networks. Let me send you the manual my community gives its new members. Chapter 2 gets into social networking and the jargon… | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 01:21 AM |
| 1 | I almost made my first approach.no problem brother, I know you're gonna do great! Remember to let us know how it goes next time | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 01:11 AM |
| 3 | The regret of not trying and not knowing is what you’ll remember the most.This is the attitude that everyone needs to adopt! Love to see it. Keep up the good work brother. | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 12:48 AM |
| 2 | I almost made my first approach.Here's some advice I previously gave on the cold approach. You might find it helpful. Okay so from reading your post it seems like you are having trouble opening a set cold. (I'm not sure if you're familiar with the jargon or not but a set is a woman or group of women that you want to pursue and opening a set cold means basically what you said- go to a random woman) The first thing I'll tell you is that this is extremely common. You are par for the course right now so don't be hard on yourself… | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 12:46 AM |
| 1 | I almost made my first approach.You need to change your mindset and understand that approaching no matter if you get turned down or not is courageous and not foolish. Whats foolish is letting an opportunity to talk to a girl you are interested in slip through your fingers. If you don't want to make a fool of yourself then go approach. You've got this brother! Even if its a rejection then you can learn from it and go forward. Even the best get rejected a LOT. | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 12:43 AM |
| 2 | I almost made my first approach.yeah I'd probably stick to 2 or 3 (1 seems probably too advanced for first approach) but these are all viable openers. This is good advice. | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 12:41 AM |
| 7 | [deleted by user]You know who was a sex symbol? Prince. You know how tall Prince was? 5'3". Tom Cruise is 5'7". Brother forget about your height, get lifted shoes if you really really want to but at the end of the day lean into your strengths. Hit the gym to make the rest of your body exactly how you want it to be. Self Invest by working out and learning a skill. I had a short buddy that got more butt than an ashtray because he could play piano and sing at the same time. It was magnificent. Height is what women … | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 12:29 AM |
| 2 | Starting university soon, need adviceThe car turning off signal is a good tip. Its binary and easily identifiable. Easy to read. Good freaking tip dude, I'm gonna remember that one. | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 12:20 AM |
| 5 | Sometimes the best effort is no effort.Lol I like your style brother, I PREACH story telling to my community. Its truly an art and can command the attention of a group. I wish there was a thread where we could share good stories to practice and tell. Always loved that scene in reservoir dogs where Mr. Orange is practicing. | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Starting university soon, need adviceOkay so from reading your post it seems like you are having trouble opening a set cold. (I'm not sure if you're familiar with the jargon or not but a set is a woman or group of women that you want to pursue and opening a set cold means basically what you said- go to a random woman) The first thing I'll tell you is that this is extremely common. You are par for the course right now so don't be hard on yourself. With just a little bit of information I think I can get you close or at least closer t… | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 07:57 PM |
| 1 | I feel socially neutered, and don't know how to undo itFirst I would say to you that humans are sexual creatures and its okay to embrace that. Be yourself within the bounds of your morality and be damned what others have to say. Second I would ask you why 30 is too late? The most successful guys in my community are in their thirties. Commit now and dedicate yourself to working towards your goal and you can do it. I'm not being naively optimistic, it is possible, through hard work, practice and study to get where you want to be. | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 07:23 PM |
| 30 | Sometimes the best effort is no effort.I agree with a lot of this sentiment in this statement. Its usually a bad look when you are actively trying to do things to raise your own social value. I think a better approach is using your wingman and entourage to signal your social value for you. By exporting that job to them you can circumvent the social norms that prevent you from signaling your own social value. | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 07:16 PM |
| 4 | [deleted by user]Spot on advice. I mean the OP doesn't give too much detail and even if you did have a novel on the entire situation that includes every last detail it could be a million things. Sometimes people are fickle. I wouldn't even give it a second thought. I understand the inclination to study it just so that you can assess your own game and see if there are any lessons learned that can be helpful going forward but if not then I wouldn't dwell on it. Its a success and you did very well. Congrats brother… | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 07:09 PM |
| 1 | How To Not Act Weird Around Attractive Girls?I think that if you commit to self investment and make yourself the best possible version of yourself that you can be then when you talk to a girl, no matter how attractive she is the notion that she's just as lucky to have me interested in her as I am to have her giving me attention then that anxiety dissipates. And its not arrogance, especially if youre committed to working on yourself and being a good person. In all honesty you are great, and she is lucky. I tend to believe that nearly everyo… | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 07:02 PM |
| 1 | How can I (F18) get past the banter stage when flirting?compliment them. Its too easy. If you can work it into conversation rather than as an abrupt non sequitur then you'll be ahead of the curve. Small touches also work. Like if they make you laugh give them the Elaine Benes style push (lol not so hard though). | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Prevent Getting Fake NumbersI wasn't advising them to use it. I was advising them against using it. I did outline the strategy because its exists, its out there, people are using it. Not talking about the problem won't make it go away will it? That's not a rhetorical question. I'm asking in earnest if you think stopping talking about it is the best course of action. Listen I'll defer to your judgement on this but I want to be clear about my intention. | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Prevent Getting Fake Numbers"The way I feel about it is that I don't usually mind getting a fake number. You and your wingman and entourage will assess how good your game was, not whether or not you get false contact info. Sometimes there are factors that you are unaware of that lead to getting a fake number. For instance, if a girl is in a relationship that is on the rocks, she might actually be into you and want to give you her number but until she breaks up proper then she can't have strange guys calling her phone. I re… | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Prevent Getting Fake NumbersDid you read the entire post? I posted it because I wanted to have a discussion on it, its being used in the field and I explicitly stated in the OP that I don't think you should use it. My ulterior motive was to start the conversation and hopefully have a consensus that would discourage people from using it. That's why I nudged the conversation in that direction in the OP. | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Prevent Getting Fake Numbersagreed completely. Like I said before, if you are having trouble getting numbers then the problem is further upstream somewhere in the game you ran. OR its very likely that there are extenuating circumstances as I outlined in the OP. | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 03:28 PM |
| 1 | Prevent Getting Fake Numbersmy thoughts exactly. The problem is upstream of the number and attention should be focused there. Something this illustrates that I think is important is the fact that if we are struggling with a specific portion of our game we have to have the open mindedness to consider that perhaps the problem isn't with that specific portion but actually is the result of a mistake we made well before. If you're having a problem it might be beneficial to think outside the box, you might just have a lightbulb … | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 03:15 PM |
| 0 | [deleted by user]So a lot of new members that come into my PUA community, come in with the goal of getting laid more. The assumption for a lot of people at first (myself included) was that getting oversexed was the goal. However, the veterans and the most talented guys in my community all talk about ascending to another plateau where they realize that sleeping around was never the goal. Its fun and exciting and cathartic but ultimately it becomes tedious. They say that the real goal reveals itself to be finding … | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 03:06 PM |
| 1 | 25Male, never had a girlfriend and I find it extremely difficult to find happiness in this loneliness.First of all brother I want to say that I know and understand the pain that you feel. You have a community here full of people that have been in a similar boat and can relate to what you're going through. The good news is that YOU CAN CHANGE IT. There is a path towards success and happiness and although it might not be easy at times, you can achieve the happiness you're looking for. You are not resigned to the situation you are in. I'm not just saying that as some mindless optimism brother, I'm … | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Party etiquettehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/19Mrbqiq_JLFn8hqqxJjjqB63MvqQptBS/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=104239849533469051862&rtpof=true&sd=true lemme know if it works! | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 01:22 PM |
| 1 | How to talk/flirt with a Northern womanAsking questions is good practice. Honestly its rare youll find a girl that won't like this. As a general rule people love to talk about themselves. You're in a unique situation. Part of me is suspicious that she has something to hide. But I wouldn't let my imagination get carried away. What you can do is say "i'm sorry, thats how I get to know someone. What would you like to talk about?" see where she takes the convo. If all else fails then just start talking about whatever you like. See how it… | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Playfulness.https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Mrbqiq_JLFn8hqqxJjjqB63MvqQptBS/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=104239849533469051862&rtpof=true&sd=true link to our manual | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Playfulness.well thats an interesting word "chemistry" and what i think people mean when they have chemistry is that the two people find each other engaging. And so that is a two way street. Half of it is how you feel about the person. Remember that when you are opening a set, its not just the girl whose making assessments and judgements about you- you are also getting to know her and seeing if you like her. The said fact is that a lot of times we'll meet people and find them dull or boring (that doesnt mea… | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 01:17 AM |
| 2 | Meeting people but them not remembering me?hey thanks brother, its a complicated topic with a lot of emotional content. I know the terrible feelings and states of depression that can go along with these things so I just am looking to help people overcome that and work towards their goals. I appreciate the support from people in the community like you, if you ever have any questions or wanna bounce ideas off me then feel free! | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Meeting people but them not remembering me?anytime brother i'm happy to help. Have fun! | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Meeting people but them not remembering me?https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.ca%2Fpin%2F511862313893555862%2F&psig=AOvVaw2B2FHyTPihdf5i_NgVaFJj&ust=1631488305686000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAsQjRxqFwoTCIDOwd2F-PICFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD Oh no we're losing him! He's succumbing to the bitterness! Come back to us brother, don't do it! | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 11:18 PM |
| 2 | Meeting people but them not remembering me?Okay so just for some background information, what type of plastic surgery did you get? If you don't feel comfortable sharing then thats fine. | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Meeting people but them not remembering me?opposite problem as in you are forgetting other peoples' names? If so I have a neat little wingman play that will really help out. | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Meeting people but them not remembering me?https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Mrbqiq_JLFn8hqqxJjjqB63MvqQptBS/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=104239849533469051862&rtpof=true&sd=true theres a link to my community's manual that we give new members. It goes into more depth on the topic if youre interested. | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Meeting people but them not remembering me?hmmm, well i'm sorry you didn't find anything useful in that. Hopefully someone else who might read it will. I wish you the best of luck. | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Playfulness.yes quite unique, don't dwell on that though. Being unique does NOT mean you can't fit in or find a home. On the contrary, unique people can be some of the most fascinating and engaging people. I'd encourage you to get out and be social! | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 10:49 PM |
| 3 | Meeting people but them not remembering me?Ok no problem at all brother. I'm actually very glad that I get to offer this to you because its super fun. So first of all, your name doesn't matter. If someone forgets your name don't take it personally. It happens to the best of us. I've forgotten the names of girls that I would cash out on before lol. The problem is if you are forgetting THEIR names. If thats the case then lemme know I have a wingman play thats so super easy you'll love it. Moving on. You are experiencing a problem with what… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 10:42 PM |
| 3 | Meeting people but them not remembering me?Okay so lemme preface this by saying I know this is an emotionally charged topic but I'm engaging on good faith because i think I an provide some help, my goal is not to get into a vitriolic debate so please don't take what I'm saying as an attack and don't think that my goal here is to prove you wrong or embarrass you or make you feel dumb. I'll hear you out and you hear me out and if what I say is unconvincing to you then we can agree to disagree. I truly do wish you all the luck in the world.… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 10:10 PM |
| 3 | Meeting people but them not remembering me?Hey brother I think I can offer some help in this area if youre interested. Is the problem that people aren't remembering your name or that they don't remember meeting you period? We can start there and then work forward. In particular I have a very specific wingman play that is specifically for helping create a memorable impression and its an absolute blast to run. This problem is small potatoes brother, don't worry about a thing. We can solve it no sweat. | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 09:14 PM |
| 5 | Meeting people but them not remembering me?I'm hoping this is sarcasm. Because looks do NOT equal social status. Listen I wont offer unsolicited advice because that is a pretty annoying thing for me to do lol but if you want help in this area I'd be glad to provide some advice, insight and resources to help you out. Don't give in to that negative thinking, not just because its unhelpful but because its untrue. | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Party etiquetteCh. 6 is about setting but there are concepts in earlier chapters like social value that are pretty critical in fully understanding all of the strategy involved. | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Party etiquetteOh we don't have a reddit community. We are pretty exclusively a PUA community that exists IRL. I can send you our literature though. We have a manual that we give to new members that covers the basics of this topic. | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 08:58 PM |
| 5 | Learn to offer value, not take. For both men and women.This is phenomenal insight. People are attracted to those who make them experience positive emotions. Conversely, denigrating someone not only conjures negative feelings but it also makes you look an ass. In dogs alpha might be the most vicious and strongest but in humans alpha is given by the consent of the group. The alpha, the person most respected, is the one who they think has their interests at heart, is trustworthy, is competent and puts the group above themselves. That is the essence of … | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 07:50 PM |
| 1 | I think I failed miserablythats a link to our new member manual. | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 07:16 PM |
| 1 | I think I failed miserablyhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/19Mrbqiq_JLFn8hqqxJjjqB63MvqQptBS/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=104239849533469051862&rtpof=true&sd=true | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 07:16 PM |
| 1 | I think I failed miserablygood luck brother. I found my community by accident and they are very secretive. I think posting in reddit might be your best bet for irl. Id suggest trying to start your own community maybe with friends, it can be grueling starting from scratch but it can be rewarding. Just see if you have any friends that are interested, start experimenting and recording what works. then be sure to share! | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 07:15 PM |
| 1 | I think I failed miserablyNo problem brother Im happy to help and I'm impressed you are putting in the work to achieve your goals! So up front its always more advantageous to have a wingman with you. Think about basketball. Playing one on one is fun but there are a bunch of moves you can't do without a partner, like the alley oop or the pick and roll. It opens up so many things for you. Obviously we have tons of theory on how to approach solo and sometimes youll have to do it. Having said that you shoul dbe careful becau… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Playfulness.I want to reiterate this- you have a good problem. You have a large diversity in your friend group and that speaks to your character. A lot of people find it difficult to reach out to new and different people and obviously you don't have that problem. This can be incredibly beneficial to you. Good work brother. | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 06:56 PM |
| 3 | Playfulness.It is good to have a diverse friend network and be well liked. This increases your social value. Instinctively, one of the things women judge a man's attractiveness on is the esteem in which he is held by the group. Its an evolutionary byproduct of when we used to live in small tribes and your standing in that group was paramount to your survival and success. Now there's no objective criteria that a woman can measure to determine that social value instead its speculative, like a stock. What they… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Playfulness.Lol oof thats a pretty harsh one. I'd say that is more in line with Seth Mcfarlane's vicious celebrity skewing sense of humor. The first thing I'd say to you is that you're right, every situation is unique and there's always a variety of things that play well. Idk how many average girls under the age of 50 know who rocky denis is and although I personally find this joke hilarious lol it might be a little vicious for engagement. There is a thin line between comically skewering people and being in… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 06:44 PM |
| 1 | I think I failed miserablySo the Icebreaker is a unique calling and I've kind of settled into that role in my community. I struggle in other areas (for instance closing because I lose interest easy and I have so much fun opening that I want to move on to the next set. Lol its almost like a gamblers mentality, maybe the grass is greener at another bar) but I really shine when it comes to opening. This is mainly because I have properly dealt with the fear that naturally comes when approaching a girl. Once you examine it lo… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 06:08 PM |
| 1 | I think I failed miserablyPt 3/3 So lets examine how strangers meet organically in the wild. There are rules in regular social interaction that necessitate the introduction of strangers in normal society. When these situations arise it doesn't feel forced or awkward but rather comfortable. That's the frame we want. We don't want to meet someone and be off-putting. Can you think of a situation where introductions feel natural? The most common by far is the introduction of two strangers by a mutual friend. When a mutual fr… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 05:51 PM |
| 1 | I think I failed miserablypt 2/3 Third Tier You know a third tier when you run into one. Its like watching a fish in water. These guys have it all sorted out. They are firing on all cylinders and something about their mere presence impresses people. They have confidence in themselves because they've worked hard and have earned that competence. Third tiers aren't afraid to go open a set. They can't wait to open a set. They revel in the challenge and the opportunity to put their skills to the test. In fact, third tiers d… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 05:51 PM |
| 1 | I think I failed miserablyPt 1/3 Chapter 8: Sets and opening We are at crucial juncture now. Once we have all of our ducks in a row, our social network is in order, our SI is paying off the very first step to actually meeting women is to pick one out and introduce yourself. If it sounds simple its because it is. It is one of the defining features of hook up culture: meeting new people or having completely random encounters. But for some reason this seems to be the step that causes the most apprehension for people. There … | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 05:50 PM |
| 1 | I think I failed miserablyWould you mind giving me some more specifics? obviously don't elucidate anything you don't feel comfortable discussing but if i had a better understanding of your specific situation i might be able to provide some insight. And let me get you started with some excerpts from our community manual on opening sets and ice breaking. | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 05:48 PM |
| 2 | How to make a move on a girlOk first of all, good job. Whatever happens going forward you've already done some good work. Now lets get you moving forward. You are stuck in a process known as escalation. From opening to closing a set there is a big gulf. Thats why we employ a process called incremental escalation. Its hard to meet a girl and get her to go from point a to point z. but its easy to get her to go from point a to point b. and then from point b to point c and so on to point z. You escalate incrementally. You don'… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 04:45 PM |
| 1 | Party etiquetteIf you are interested in this topic my community has compiled a pretty sizeable amount of theory on this exact topic that I really encourage you to read. Setting theory is one of our specialties and most of my community agrees that there is much more strategy to be employed in the private setting (house parties, etc.) vs the public setting (bars, etc,). Besides theory we have some x's and o's on wingman plays that are effective in house party situations that are extremely practical. And lastly, … | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 04:26 PM |
| 1 | I think I failed miserablyI've been operating in my PUA community for over a decade and I say that not to try and sound impressive or anything but because I want you to know that I have a lot of experience in the exact situation you found yourself in. I am my group's designated ice breaker and although I revel in the role, it does present unique challenges that others might not fully understand. First of all, if you learned anything at all during this whole episode then its a resounding success. If your friends haven't a… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 04:19 PM |
| 6 | I have no fucking idea how to act around clubbing/drunk/party girlsOkay so if I'm interpreting your post correctly you're having problems on capitalizing and escalation. You are not having problems on opening the set but on the portion that comes after opening. Going from having an opened set to closing. Lemme share with you a portion of my community's manual on the topic. keep in mind that after the open comes "the spit" which is basically like being engaging. Its kind of like treading water, just being able to hold their attention but its kind of a static con… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 04:05 PM |
| 4 | Expectation of Sex!this is good advice. Impose that restriction on it. If you act under the assumption that no matter if i run great game or terrible game on this date i won't be having sex then it'll lift that pressure. | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 03:54 PM |
| 19 | Expectation of Sex!This is an easy one. Impose a self limitation. You meet a girl and make a Ulysses Pact of sorts. Meet a girl and before you even run game on her promise yourself that she is "persona non nookie" and that you are just gonna "sharpen your claws" or practice your skill. This usually works best with girls that you might find on the lower part of your attractedness spectrum. Run game, then when you think you've done a good job just friendzone her. Just start taking reps. If you want to leave the door… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Playfulness.One more thing on being playful. If you do want to exude this type of demeanor then I think its important to understand the crux of playfulness with a girl is that there is small joke or situation that is amusing to you and it involves her. Not necessarily that she's the butt of a joke or the object of ridicule (sometimes that frame is extreme). But always keep in mind that "sincerity is the essence of charisma" if there isn't something she's done or said that you find amusing or slightly bewild… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 03:26 PM |
| 2 | Playfulness.Hey brother, a mantra that we often use in my community is that "The essence of charisma is sincerity". In effect its because feelings are difficult to fake. Humans are experts at detecting things like micro facial expressions on an almost subconcious level. (There are actually involuntary muscle movements that happen you smile sincerely that cant be recreated by faking). My advice is to tap into how you actually feel. If the things you are doing and the people you are meeting aren't exciting yo… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Help leaving lvl 0.Pt. 4/4 Bypassing the rules of social interaction that preclude strangers from talking to one another is just the first aspect of a successful open. The other, and perhaps more important, element is be engaging. You have to hold her interest in a positive way. If you are boring and repulsive it doesn't matter how punctual your timing was or how seamless your introduction was. You have to hold her attention and make her want to interact with you. This is much trickier and, truth be told, a sign… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 02:25 AM |
| 1 | Help leaving lvl 0.Pt. 3/4 So once we've reached tier 4 how do we go about actually opening a set? There's a plethora of variables that determine that answer so no one algorithmic, one size fits all answer will help you out in this situation. There is one main, underlying principle however: Opening a set relies on your ability to create a social interaction (usually initiation of conversation) in an organic and engaging way. The key word here is “engaging”. When you begin the interaction you want to capture her … | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 02:25 AM |
| 1 | Help leaving lvl 0.pt. 2/4 So after a while you'll notice how crowded the second tier is. This is where most guys naturally end up and then stay for the rest of their lives. Second tiers are so prevalent. Second tier is characterized by guys who might still be cautious and a bit nervous about opening sets but will do it from time to time anyway. These are the guys that might need someone to dare them to go talk to a group of girls that they want to go talk to but don't have the courage to do so. These guys may h… | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Help leaving lvl 0.Pt. 1/4 Hey brother I think I can help you out. You say you are having trouble opening? Lemme send you what my PUA community has had to say about it. Its a good starting point imo and if you have any questions then feel free to ask. And conversely if you don't see any value in our method then thats fine too, I wish you the best of luck! If you do decide to go a different route let us know what worked or you. I have to preface this by saying there are some references to terms and concepts from … | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 02:23 AM |
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