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| 3 | why don't women love-bomb men? how do women make effort towards liking a man?Female version of love bombing is just easy sex. A lot of women seem to think they can win over a guy by sleeping with him early. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 10:13 PM |
| 3 | Redpillers have been predicting the end of civilization for two decades now.The dating market today is worse than anybody could've predicted back in 2025. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 09:59 PM |
| 1 | It’s a good thing that women are so selective sometimesSo are most men tempted and virtuous for not cheating? Even though that should be the norm? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 09:55 PM |
| 3 | Why are young men struggling?I know it based on what you say. If you say the problem is because of X and not Y, then I know Y is either invisible to you, or you're knowingly lying (which I won't assume of you). The issue is with men who don't approach you at all, so why would they be visible to you after all? It's not an accusatory tone, you could only know if you spent the time researching this to understand it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Women aren't going to drastically change their lifestyle so that someday you might want to marry them.In science, a hypothesis is a claim that has yet to be proven true through the scientific process, and once it becomes true, it becomes a theory. However, in everyday lingo, we use theory as to mean an "idea". My point is, this is basically a theory in the scientific sense. It is biological, because it's a biological response that we can't control. I say it's biological in the sense that murder making you feel bad is biological, it's a response from our bodies. Some human have different levels o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 07:20 PM |
| 5 | Other alternativesWe're maybe defining "shock" differently here. Not a single soul would give a shit about any of this "bluepill, redpill, purplepill" talk if they were in a happy relationship. People in happy relationships don't give a shit about this crap, people only turn to the redpill because the stuff they've been taught all their lives (what we summarize as the bluepill) hasn't worked out for them, and only made them more miserable. So they see the redpill as an alternative, give it a try, and discover tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 07:16 PM |
| 6 | Other alternativesA pill is only useful insofar as it works. The bluepill is what society ingrains in us from a young age, and the reason the redpill has become so popular is because the bluepill has become an abject failure for men, while the redpill has demonstrably worked better than the bluepill for men. There's no appeal with the shock, there are many pills, the blackpill has the worst, people will simply flock to whatever helps solve their problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 07:05 PM |
| 7 | Why are young men struggling?No you didn't, because those men are completely invisible to you. Any man that doesn't interact with you is invisible to you really. I understand what you mean though, I've had female friends show me DMs of guys calling them whores for rejecting them, and even a dude who threatened to kill himself if she didn't go out with him, I think you've had similar experiences too. But men like this have always existed forever. What is a new phenomena is how many men are shy and don't approach women anymor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.Yes, because pursuing someone is putting effort in them. If taking you out on dates, listening to you vent, buying you things, and sharing with you in your life, I'm putting effort into you. Nobody said anything about "annoying" effort, we know that we have to put in effort no matter what, but we don't want to put effort into something that others got for free. And yes, I never said that having a high body count is a deal breaker, I don't even believe that it is for most men, just that it's a hu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Women aren't going to drastically change their lifestyle so that someday you might want to marry them.It's not a theory (hypothesis), there's no discussion to be had if you even deny something as obvious as this. The vast majority of men who dated will tell you they've had a moment where someone they were interested in dropped a hoe lore story and it caused their stomach to churn for weeks. Also, lol?? Animals literally murder mating rivals, you don't think mate guarding is as present for other mammals? It's funny, just last week I saw this video of this huge seal/walrus maul another seal just t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.Well, it just happens that people's first impression is the most impacting and lasting one. You won't have any chance to notice it until you're put in a situation where you get to see someone else treat someone in a similar position to yours much better. And yes, a lack of self-respect is undesirable, but it varies from person to person whether that specific lack of self-respect is a dealbreaker. A lack of self-respect manifests itself in many ways, whether it's an obese unemployed man who spend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.What's the percentage of women that are moral then? I believe these are high-value women, who actually don't want manwhores, but they're super rare. I'm in my 20's and never met more than one irl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 05:51 PM |
| – | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.It's only wrong if YOU make it wrong. Women actively pursue men who sleep around and have options, it's called preselection. You reward men who engage in hookup culture. Now I know there are few women who legitimately find this disgusting and want a virgin man, but I doubt that's you, statistically far too few women are like this, and it's usually because they're something like religious or waiting for marriage to have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.You've written several comments so far insisting that you didn't see it as disrespect because you enjoyed it too, when that was never a factor to begin with. Remember, you're being rejected not by yourself, but by men, and this is the male POV. None of this would matter if you were never looking for commitment, in which case your body count doesn't get in the way of anything. If a man sees commitment as something he gives to me in exchange for sex, I don’t want it. I'll break it down for you : M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.No, even for women he's trying to not date. I am separating Halo effect biases from pursuing someone romantically. Men and women will treat good looking people better even when not trying to date them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 05:33 PM |
| 2 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.Good, go ahead. I respect that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 05:31 PM |
| 2 | It’s a good thing that women are so selective sometimesNobody's going to like this opinion OP. Are you saying most women would cheat more if they were in the same position as men (aka finding most of the opposite gender attractive)? Are men virtuous for not cheating while finding women attractive and having options? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.Case #1214221521 of women not saying what they do. Most women are disgusted when they learn a guy is a virgin or has a small number of partners. virgins do not want them. Perhaps, but the minority of women who are this way don't get mad at slut-shaming. Why would they? It increases their value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.Yes, focus on the second phrase in the quote, women treat men that they find attractive better than unattractive men. That is disrespect for me. When I see a man treat a woman worse just because she's unattractive (I saw him treat an attractive woman better), I also think he's disrespecting her. I see it a lot at work. And no, the moving example is the perfect one, since we're not strictly focusing on relationship activities. You're trying to debunk the halo effect theory, it's hilarious. In my … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.You've lied to yourself and convinced yourself that you were more than just someone's human-sized fleshlight on the nights of all those hookups, but I tell you, most men don't see it that way. It being mutually-enjoyable sex doesn't matter one single bit, nobody even cares whether you or the guy enjoyed the sex or not, the moment you let him inside you without him having to earn the right to your body without commitment was the moment you devalued yourself. If you gave yourself for free to one m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexIt is now. Nobody cares about millennials who refuse to use the new lingo, Gen Z will keep using these words the way they're being used right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 05:10 PM |
| – | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.Why do you think it is okay for men to have many partners and not women? When did I ever say this? Strawman more please. I don't remember putting a gun to most women's heads and forcing them to find men who sleep around more attractive, that's on you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.In this case, it is yeah. You were the one claiming not finding someone attractive implies disrespect… Bruh, I'm speechless. Does helping your friend move but not a stranger mean you are disrespecting the stranger? Are you okay? Finding someone attractive comes first, and THEN you give them the pretty person privilege, not the other way around. If my friend didn't help me move, but did help someone else because they find them more attractive, then that's disrespectful towards me yes. Treating me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.You're asking why someone using you as a human fleshlight/dildo is disrespectful? If you're gentle with the dildo and grateful to it after, does it make having had sex with the sex toy any better? You can be someone's release when he's horny, but most men don't want a woman who has been the release for other men's horniness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.Isn’t that a contradiction to your previous claim Nope. I respect you as a person, but let's be fair, I disrespect you from a relationship POV when I say no I don't want to be in a relationship with you due to your bodycount. I do it as politely and respectfully as possible, and never even give the reason, but it's still disrespect at the end of the day. You don't have to be mad about it, I wouldn't be mad if a woman rejected me for any reason. That is not the same as men disrespecting every wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 04:53 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill is dead. Was never alive. CMV.There's no better way though. You can't unironically say to someone's face "Yeah the bluepill advice works better for the average man than the redpill advice does", and them not think you're a liar. Even on this sub most of the bluepilled users aren't even the average 20's men, but older millennial men in their mid-late 30's who've manwhored around a lil too much in college and believe the RP's demonization of female hookup culture is a threat to them due to their own bodycounts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 04:40 PM |
| 9 | Why are young men struggling?What i can see is that males who struggle have social awkwardness and usually entitlement either in a way that “i did everything right give me a woman”, or in a way “women are here for me to use”. This is why men never listen to women for dating advice anything, you superimpose your lived experience on your theory far too much. From your POV, you got some men who went after you, you weren't interested so you rejected them, and they may have been entitled, so you think that's the issue for men wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 04:27 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill is dead. Was never alive. CMV.Has a study ever been done on this? In any case, you can simply observe it. For example, redpill preaches for less empathy towards women, and on average, the men sleeping around the most on average have less empathy for women than the average man does. You'll probably ask for evidence for that too, and I'll tell you to rely on your observations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.When I think of disrespecting someone, it’s an actively negative emotion Yes, you're an average person. I've had this argument with several of my friends in the past. I strongly believe that if you're not respecting someone, then you're disrespecting them. Which is why I make sure to respect most people I see. The bank is not a debate subreddit The bank is an analogy. You basically said "Why does my history of failed relationships have to matter for future relationships", and I'm trying to make … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 04:15 PM |
| 1 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexCasual relationship can mean a wide variety of things, situationship is more specific to the situation I told you about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.That's your misunderstanding, it's not sex with women that I find disrespectful, it's using women for sex that I find disrespectful. I find hookup culture fucked up and even sociopathic to a degree, since it's very hard for me to separate sex from the emotional intimacy and bonding aspect of it. A man must really view a woman so lowly to be able to sleep with her and not develop feelings. Either that, or she's very unattractive (not just physically, but also relationship-wise, the guy knows she … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 04:07 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill is dead. Was never alive. CMV.It will never be an objective truth that is always correct, since human beings change their behavior over time. But yes, the whole appeal is that it is more correct than the bluepill, but not 100% correct as you say. If it works better than "believing nice guys will get the girl for being nice" it's not really a high bar to being the truth Yep lol, but a lot of men do legitimately spend a lot of their lives believing shit like "Just be yourself!" and "If you're kind enough, and respectful toward… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 04:01 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill is dead. Was never alive. CMV.Sociology isn't a hard science like chemistry or physics, there isn't any scientific process for it where it undergoes a peer-review which confirms it or debunks it since 99% of sociological concepts do not apply to all humans. The laws of physics apply to all humans (to everything), that's the difference then how can you say that the RP objectively works better than the bluepill Take two average males that are almost identical, make one follow the BP, and one follow the RP. The RP guy will alwa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.I was quoting you for the "You claimed men disrespect", just forgot to put it in quotation marks. Those were literally your own words. You were the one claiming that casual sex means the man is disrespecting the woman. I do, would a man hookup with a woman that he respects? No. You've outed yourself here, I'm someone who believes that if you're not respecting someone, then you're disrespecting them. You probably think that there's a "neutral" state where you're either not respecting or disrespec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexI don't listen to them/him, I've seen some women quote some of what Andrew Tate said, and I found it unacceptable enough that I would never listen to him on anything relationship-related. I don't listen to any podcasters either, just a few Youtube videos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 03:36 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill is dead. Was never alive. CMV.What part do you find confusing? I can explain to help you better understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexI don't listen to Andrew Tate because he's the "manwhore" strand of RP men, and I'm not interested in that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.You claimed men disrespect Yes, for me, respecting someone less is disrespecting. If I treat you worse just because you're unattractive to me, then I'm disrespecting you. I disagreed that having mutually enjoyable casual sex with someone is letting someone treat you disrespectfully. We're not talking about your POV, I understand that from your POV, you didn't feel like you were being used or disrespected. I was in situations like that too before, where others told me I was being used, but I didn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexUh no, I was bluepilled before, I got most of my redpill knowledge from my successful male friends, Youtube videos (not of RP influencers), books, and memes. You still don't understand what the redpill is. Men like Andrew Tate aren't the redpill, but what comes after the redpill. A traditional conservative man who is religious and wants marriage before sex, and a sexpest manwhore who sleeps around with women casually (that he picks up at bars and clubs) can both be redpilled. There's no specific… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexIf you both don't want anything serious, then it's a FWB. If one of you wants something serious, but the other doesn't, then it's a situationship. What part of this is so hard to understand? I don't get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 03:10 PM |
| 2 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexThe RP is a set of knowledge, it can come from any source. Not everybody gets it from influencers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.Okay, but you should know the difference. For example, most of my woman friends are either hoes or former hoes, and I love them as people. Women with high body counts are usually better friends too, but I just don't consider them for a relationship unless they make up for that with something else. Relationship value is different from personal value, women attest this to men they keep in the friendzone. But engaging in casual sex does not imply being used People are the sum of their decisions and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 03:05 PM |
| 3 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexI don't listen to any RP influencer. Don't even know half of those people you mentioned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexThe term FWB is, it's not that old. FWBs themselves have existed since time immemorial, but had become common enough to warrant their own term. but the reality is it when people hook up long enough someone’s catching feeling Lol, no. That’s why none of the women actually disagreed with what I said Where? ok well whatever the situation is, it’s working out for me I'm not talking about you, your stiuation is irrelevant to me. You're just trying to regroup the term situationship back into FWB, even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 02:45 PM |
| 3 | We need more two-way empathy, not sympathySome people are just greedy and want more. For me, basic empathy is always appreciated and goes a long way in making me respect and be more considerate of what a person is saying. hey even tell me with their own words that empathy without action is not enough. It's true though, words are nice but won't solve the issue. From my point of view, those men are idiots, because they want women to change to accommodate them instead of vice-versa. But to be fair, a lot of women do this too, complain abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 02:41 PM |
| – | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.I don’t think people normally disrespect people they find unattractive Lol. That sounds like you feel that way and are projecting it onto everyone else How long are you going to keep gaslighting people on this sub? This isn't your first time. The Halo effect is real, and in general, both men and women respect attractive people more and respect unattractive people less. Do you disrespect your family and male friends because you don’t find them attractive? Hold on, you're confused. We're talking a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 02:33 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill is dead. Was never alive. CMV.but also I think it's good to know how your partner works Someone's value as a person is different from their relationship value. As a man, once you get a woman that is legitimately attracted to you, then all that relationship stuff becomes useless and not needed anymore. You can start treating that person as a normal person. and then there's "understanding it was wrong or oversimplified" It's not wrong if it corresponds to reality. Oversimplified maybe, but wrong? No. but a lot is wrong in my o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 02:26 PM |
| – | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.Not respecting means they find you less attractive. Women don't respect unattractive men like they respect attractive men, and the same applies for men. I am not sure how that affects a woman losing value though. You've done something that makes men feel an ick, that's where you loss of relationship value is. If I see person A disrespect person B If you see person B constantly allow themselves to get disrespected, you'd start to not respect person B too. Women have never respected me when I lack… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexThat’s what a FWB was half the time. FWBs were a new thing for people your age-group, but now we have even newer lingo that go into the specifics. Now, FWBs is used purely for situations where there are established boundaries and neither side is trying to change the other side's feelings, while situationships involve a woman actively trying to get the man to commit to a relationship. These two situations are different enough that they can't both be categorized under "FWB". FWBs are seen more pos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Women aren't going to drastically change their lifestyle so that someday you might want to marry them.Yes they can. Women do the same thing too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4B_movement | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 02:13 PM |
| -5 | Why are young men struggling?The problem is no one looks at single virgin women as a red flag Except other women. Many women virgin-shame both men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 02:11 PM |
| 2 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexI honestly don't get it, what part of that definition was so hard for you to understand? Do you think it's impossible for women to have feelings for men that don't have feelings for them? Do you still call those situations FWBs? There is no expectation of a relationship in an FWB. There is an expectation of a relationship in a situationship (usually from the woman). What part of this is so hard to understand? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 02:10 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill is dead. Was never alive. CMV.The redpill is essentially information that describes how women behave, and how to get them. Why would you need that information once you're in a relationship? Ofc it gets thrown away once it has fulfilled its purpose of helping a bluepilled man succeed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 02:07 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill is dead. Was never alive. CMV.The redpill can't be "alive" or "dead", it's not an ideology or movement, it's simply an observation of reality, of how women & men behave, and more importantly, what women & men respond to. The redpill will be alive and thriving for as long as the bluepill remains bad advice for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 02:05 PM |
| 3 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexAnd the fact that it’s only the boys saying it 99% of the time, I've only seen women say this. Again, you're showing your age with these posts. I don't blame you, this is relatively a new phenomena. It’s a FWB where the boy pretends he’s not going to catch feelings. Pretends? Lol. This is what every woman in a situationship hopes, that he eventually catches feelings. Hint hint, with how so many women who've been in situationships are jaded at men, you can tell it doesn't always end up like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexIt's evil. Let's say I had feelings for a woman but couldn't be in a relationship with her for X amount of time, do you think I'd keep her leashed for that long until I decide to make it official? I also understand why it happens, and still think it's a fucked up thing to do. At best, from the start, tell her that you're interested in her, and ask her if she's willing to wait instead of stringing them along. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexIt's not a relationship because one side never made it official and only one side wants it to be. Situationships is when the woman has feelings for the guy, but is only used for sex by him. He also keeps her leashed and doesn't want her dating other men. FWB is when neither side have feelings for each other and let each other do as they please. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 01:52 PM |
| 3 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexI've already had to ask users on this sub their age over a dozen times specifically because of this lol. Older people don't know what dating is like for people in their 20's now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 01:50 PM |
| 2 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexYour lack of understanding of the term doesn't change its meaning. FWB is when both parties don't have feelings for each other and let each other do what they want. Situationship is when the woman has feelings for the guy, but the guy doesn't have feelings for her. Usually in situationships, the man doesn't want the woman dating other men. There's no greater disrespect for a woman than being in a situationship. Not only are you being used for sex, but you want a guy who doesn't want you, and sto… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 01:49 PM |
| 2 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexMen can't use women if women don't allow themselves to be used. Kind of like how the friendzone doesn't really exist, it's the man actively putting himself into that situation. Both situationships for women and friendzone for men are fundamentally the same, you're with someone who doesn't want a relationship with you, but wants relationship benefits out of you. The same disrespect for both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Situationship is a term made up by women to make themselves feel better about being used for sexLove is straightforward, you don't put a woman that you love in a situationship just to keep your options open for now or for later. If you truly loved someone and couldn't be with them for any X reason, you'd let them go instead of keeping them around for relationship benefits like sex without the relationship title. You're just wasting their time otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 01:44 PM |
| – | Literally every male in the history of existence has wanted to have sex. Women should stop acting like a guy it’s disgusting for wanting to have sex.It's not the sex that makes you lose value, it's your history of failed relationships (aka sleeping with many men). Had sex with the same person 1000 times? No problem for 99% of guys. Had sex once with 1000 different people? Problem for 99% of guys. Men don't really respect the women they have casual sex with, so are you surprised that you lose value when you've had casual sex with many men? It's like going to a bank to ask for a loan and getting angry that your application got rejected because… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 01:38 PM |
| 2 | We need more two-way empathy, not sympathyWhy not? It would help them feel better, but it wouldn't solve their problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 01:22 PM |
| 3 | Women aren't going to drastically change their lifestyle so that someday you might want to marry them.That's not where the problem is, the problem is that also a lot of those manwhores who settle down also want a real trad monogamous woman. I know, it's crazy, and they're hypocrites, but I have 3 friends who are like this, and I told them all "Aren't you kinda being a hypocrite for asking for a low bodycount monogamous woman while you slept around/still sleep around?" and they all gave the same "It's different for men!" response. Only very liberal and progressive men are willing to overlook that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 01:10 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men frequently lose in life if they are too empathetic towards women and female issuesI used to believe this, until I tried being an asshole/non-empathetic myself and saw how easier it made dating, to the point that I was disgusted and made it a non-negotiable to myself that I want a woman who doesn't allow herself to be mistreated or manipulated. Even men with below-average looks can boost their attractiveness by getting rid of their empathy, not caring goes a long way for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 01:05 PM |
| 27 | Women are just as upset being friend-zoned as men are.There was a thread last week titled something like "Why do men hate women that are sluts?", and in it all the top comments were men saying "Who says we hate them? We love having them as friends, but we just wouldn't consider them for marriage or an LTR" and all the women replies were raging at this. They hate being rejected romantically in favor of friendships as much as men do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Dating is insanely inequal and unfair for men, yet no one’s adressing it even though it affects fundamental humanI'm 35. That answers it, thanks. where we have monogamy (we do) You don't understand, I'm not talking about the option of monogamy, I'm talking about it being the norm. You're in your 30's, things even out for men at this stage (and get much worse for women), but for young men, especially in their early 20's, it's pure hell right now, and who knows if Gen Z women will settle in their 30's like millennial women did, or if we'll continue the gender wars. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 12:56 PM |
| 1 | Dating is insanely inequal and unfair for men, yet no one’s adressing it even though it affects fundamental humanwhy don’t you hear about older women complaining en masse? They actually do complain, but they just don't use the same social media as you. I remember this legendary article by a woman in her 40's who lamented how horrible dating is for older women, mainly due to the fact that there are more women in their 40's and older that are dating than there are men, effectively reversing the situation for people in their 20's on apps. Try reading some columnist pieces on websites like The Guardian. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 12:49 PM |
| 1 | Women aren't going to drastically change their lifestyle so that someday you might want to marry them.It's not about struggling with it or disliking it, it's a biological reaction that you can't control. It stems from something called mate guarding, an instinct much stronger in men than in women. The female equivalent of this is women being turned off by a man when learning he's a virgin or unexperienced. Those women can't control the ick they feel, it just comes to them. In their case, it stems from something called preselection, an instinct much strong in women than men. However, this would su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 12:45 PM |
| 1 | Dating is insanely inequal and unfair for men, yet no one’s adressing it even though it affects fundamental humanPew didn't ask people if they were single. It asked whether they were married, living with a partner, or in a "committed romantic relationship". People who didn't select any of those categories were treated as single. Yes, that's exactly what they should've done, so the sampling is good! The whole point I'm making is about situationships, namely that the same few guys are juggling between a dozen women each who all think that they're in relationship with the guy, while the guy doesn't think he's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/25 12:37 PM |
| 1 | Q4RPmen: Why do you need women?I try to not offend people, so I'll use softer words with you, but just know that in my case, and in the case of many other men, we really don't mean those words literally. A lot of men never improve because the bluepill tells them "You're good as you are, just keep improving!" and this doesn't work on them. The redpill's military-style "You're a worthless piece of subhuman filth, you either become the man you were meant to be or you die alone and poor" works much better on most men, even though… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 07:05 PM |
| 2 | Women aren't going to drastically change their lifestyle so that someday you might want to marry them.For most men, that is. Ironic that you'd say that, since I did have a woman once tell me her bodycount of 9 was low because it wasn't double-digits, even though most men would find it too high. I'm still interested in your perspective, you didn't answer my question. What happens in those cases when former hoes decide they want a trad monogamous man? That's literally like 99% of the FemaleDatingStrategy-type women. They have high body counts, and hate men because all the high-value men reject the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Q4RPmen: Why do you need women?The essence of the message =/= the words used. I don't care about the framing of a message, only its contents. Some RP men also say that BP men who can't get laid and are too nice women to women are worthless fodder who don't deserve to survive. Is that a call to violence to kill BP men? No. Is that a reminder to BP men that they won't reproduce because of their failures and are a genetic dead-end? Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 06:55 PM |
| 1 | What would your perfered insult be?Damn, you're a demon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 06:49 PM |
| -5 | Dating is insanely inequal and unfair for men, yet no one’s adressing it even though it affects fundamental humanHalf of American women are legally married or living with a partner by 26. It’s 2/3 by 30. Hold old are these stats? They 100% seem wrong. Most people choose monogamy even though it’s not forced. It's still forced to a degree, since we don't allow polygamous marriages. Our cavemen ancestors kept their harems for life, and didn't have to discard them at some point to marry 1 woman. Is this the compromise? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 06:46 PM |
| 7 | Dating is insanely inequal and unfair for men, yet no one’s adressing it even though it affects fundamental humanIt's not, though. There's a reason why only 1/3rd of Gen Z women are single and why 2/3rd of Gen Z men are. There's a reason why Gen Z men either answer yes or no when asked if they're in a relationship, while Gen Z women say "it's complicated" or "I'm seeing someone". This is like the 12th time I've asked this on this sub, but how old are you? Or what age group? The problem I've mentioned is more pronounced for younger people. Older people and millennials had only taken their first steps into t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 06:37 PM |
| – | Women aren't going to drastically change their lifestyle so that someday you might want to marry them.The question for you is, you said that trad monogamous men go for trad monogamous women, but what happens when formerly "free" women start asking for a trad monogamous man? This is the core root of 90% of dating problems for women in their 30's. A lot of them are former "hoes" who suddenly want a marriage with a trad monogamous man, but the trad men reject them because of their past. So what happens? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 06:29 PM |
| 13 | Dating is insanely inequal and unfair for men, yet no one’s adressing it even though it affects fundamental humanYou seem to think I support the ancestral way of doing things, I don't and despise it. It collapsed in 99% of human societies for a reason. I also don't like the fact that historically, monogamy could only be maintained by taking away women's freedom and by threatening them with violence and death otherwise. My ideal world is one where we have monogamy, but where women aren't forced to be this way by threat of violence. I don't know if it's possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 06:22 PM |
| – | Women aren't going to drastically change their lifestyle so that someday you might want to marry them.don’t have any problems finding a good quality partner That's not true. I'd wager the overwhelming majority of women complaining about men online when it comes to dating are women with above-average body counts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 06:15 PM |
| – | Women aren't going to drastically change their lifestyle so that someday you might want to marry them.Attraction doesn't work like that, there are things that bring you up, and there are things that bring you down. A high bodycount is a biological ick for 99% of men (1% of men are cuckolds who get off it), we don't control that feeling, in the same way you don't decide to feel an ick whenever you see a man being weak or vulnerable. In your case, you're either so attractive elsewhere that your boyfriend is willing to overlook the ick he gets from your bodycount, or he has low self-esteem/is a low… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 06:13 PM |
| – | Women aren't going to drastically change their lifestyle so that someday you might want to marry them.You missed the point. What about the women that were "free" in their 20's and are suddenly monogamous and trad in their 30's? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 06:06 PM |
| -1 | Dating is insanely inequal and unfair for men, yet no one’s adressing it even though it affects fundamental humanNot women, human biology*. This is how it was for our cavemen ancestors, the trend of 80% of women only going for the top 20% of men is inherently biological, and it was unnatural for us to break this trend with forced monogamous concepts like marriage and religious chastity for women. Now the question is, why did 99% of all human cultures abandon our polygamous past, and what are the consequences of us reverting back to it in the 21st century? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 06:01 PM |
| 29 | Dating is insanely inequal and unfair for men, yet no one’s adressing it even though it affects fundamental humanThere's nothing. Fact of the matter is, this is how our cavemen ancestors lived, there were a few top males with large harems, and all the lower status men died without reproducing. This is how it is naturally. Problem is, once human civilization developed, something happened that made 99% of human cultures realize that this wasn't productive, and that women should be forced to be monogamous (marriage). We either force women and take away their free will, or we figure out why almost every cultur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 05:56 PM |
| 2 | Q4RPmen: Why do you need women?The RP doesn't say that women expire at 25 and are shitty after 30, it says that they experience a decline in attractiveness after 30, and become more demanding after 25. Most men in their early 20's have a low SMV because they've just begun to build themselves up, you think it would be fair if I said you believed early 20's men are worthless? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/25 05:50 PM |
| 2 | Average man could put more effort in his appearance and it wouldn't change a thingThe quiet introverted guys are the ones getting weeded out though. The abusive men who can't keep a job and are generally unfit partners still get as much sex as they want. You cannot blame women for not being human lie detectors How do you repeatedly get fooled over and over by the same few bad men? And why only them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 07:22 PM |
| 8 | Average man could put more effort in his appearance and it wouldn't change a thingMen and women project a lot. Women think that the average men has the ability to go up a few points in attractiveness like they can if they just dress better and had a better appearance (evidently false) because women are able to with makeup. Men think that once they become "attractive", women will jump on their cock because that's what men do when they see an attractive woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 07:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Inexperienced men who want to improve should get practice girlfriendsI think you see the trend, the percentage of younger people without any sexual experience or relationships keeps growing, and not to mention, being in a relationship as a teenager =/= have had sex, and because men often lie about their experience, it could be even a few points higher. So the sources both show about 55-60% romantic and sexual experiences/relationship at age 19. 55% and lower*, and this is purely for Gen Z adults. Gen Alpha (around 18 now) is having sex even less than Gen Z did. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 07:10 PM |
| 5 | Men need to stop being logicalLogic and empathy are huge inhibitors for men for sure. But you should definitely start to use logic (and based on observations, not what women) once you lock in the woman you want for an LTR. Going off emotions and feels can only get you so far. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"?Having sex with people who don't respect you is a sign of a lack of self-respect* There, fixed it for you. I really don't, let's be clear here, if all you ever did was hookups in your life then there absolutely wouldn't be any problem with this here. The issue is that eventually, you get bored of the hookups and decide you want to settle down and find a husband. But when women who have allowed themselves to be treated like shit all their lives suddenly start to demand respect, that's when the pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 06:34 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men frequently lose in life if they are too empathetic towards women and female issuesEmpathy means being able to empathize with someone, to put yourself in their shoes and see things from their POV. A lack of empathy is legitimately attractive to women because it comes from IDGAF men who are assertive, confident, and don't care what the woman thinks. I see what you're talking about though, there are men who trick women into sex and use empathy yes, but I'm not even talking about those men. A lot of male leeches who stick to women (especially ones in relationships), and use empat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 06:09 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Inexperienced men who want to improve should get practice girlfriendsI see your point, I'm not defending practice gfs because they're a good thing, they objectively aren't. I'm only defending them from the POV that society tolerates much worse on a vast scale (placeholder partners). Most of my male friends are with women they know they won't end up marrying, and when I was in my early 20's, I knew that most of my female friends were with boyfriends they also knew they weren't going to marry one day. OP telling people to do it is definitely shady, but what alterna… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 06:02 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Inexperienced men who want to improve should get practice girlfriendsMy brother, I literally said, word for word, that things today are completely different from what they were even 10 years ago, and you cite a research piece from 2015? Look at Gen Z instead! https://www.americansurveycenter.org/commentary/gen-zs-romance-gap-why-nearly-half-of-young-men-arent-dating/ But it’s not just sex that’s declined among teens; it’s romantic relationships overall. Teens are dating less. A survey conducted by the Survey Center on American Life found that only 56 percent of G… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"?People who respect themselves don't let others treat them like shit. Your self-respect doesn't come from what you say, but from how you allow other people to treat you. I don't think you're making yourself dirty. If you had a bodycount of 30, and all 30 men were high-value men who had to slay dragons to even touch you, then your self-respect is high and intact. The bodycount isn't the issue, it's the history of men who gave you those bodies. Why should i sell it and make people work for it, i’m … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 05:53 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Inexperienced men who want to improve should get practice girlfriendsLet's be real here, fundamentally, as you said, placeholder and practice partners are the same. In both cases, you're in a relationship with someone who isn't your 1st choice to marry or be in an LTR with. The ONLY difference is that the placeholder gf is there purely to keep a dude's dick warm while he looks for better options, while the practice gf is there to help a guy gain some experience, confidence, and skills. So how come having a practice partner is sociopathic, but having a placeholder… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 05:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Inexperienced men who want to improve should get practice girlfriendsAnswer my question, or give a range at least. Too many people in their 30's and 40's on this sub giving their opinions thinking things are still like they were back in the 1990's or 2000's. The paradigm has completely shifted, modern dating is completely different from what it was even 10 years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 05:26 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Inexperienced men who want to improve should get practice girlfriendsYes, 100%, but let's be real here, there are countless relationships out there where one partner is only a placeholder for the other partner, who keeps them around for relationship benefits until they find something better, and only marry them if they don't find anything that something better. In my opinion, these placeholder relationships are far worse than practice relationships, so if society is willing to tolerate placeholder gfs and bfs, then why not tolerate practice gfs and bfs? The only … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 05:25 PM |
| -1 | CMV: Inexperienced men who want to improve should get practice girlfriendsThey are realizing that they are being taken advantage of. But so are placeholder gfs, so what's the issue with practice gfs? Oh right, it's because women also do placeholder boyfriends and keep some men as backup options in case they don't find their ideal man, so it's not as bad huh? But because women don't do practice bfs (they don't need to), that makes practice gfs uniquely evil I guess. There's nothing more humiliating than being someone's backup option in my opinion. Second of all, they a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 05:20 PM |
| 4 | Men are dumb and vote against their economic interest for some perceived macho reasonYep, the demographic that really carried Trump to victory was middle-aged and older White women. Minority women voted overwhelmingly against Trump. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 05:01 PM |
| 11 | [Q4W] Have you noticed different dating results across your average guy friends?This doesn't get repeated enough, COVID really made the gender wars 100x worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 04:45 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Inexperienced men who want to improve should get practice girlfriendsHow old are you? Back in the 1990's, over half of men in their 20's were in a relationship, now it's less than half. Having no relationship/sexual experience at age 21+ is far more common now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 04:41 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Inexperienced men who want to improve should get practice girlfriendsMen who see women as below them have an easier time dating than men who see them as equals. I don't think practice gfs are worse than placeholder gfs, which a large number of women are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 04:39 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Inexperienced men who want to improve should get practice girlfriendsNo, you're mistaking two things. A placeholder gf is only some woman you use for sex and relationship benefits until you meet the woman that you really want. A practice gf is specifically for building up your experience and getting over the anxiety of approaching women, she's a random woman you gave a chance to to help improve yourself. I feel like the practice gf has it better, because there's actually a chance the shy guy in a relationship with her might actually fall in love with her, while t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 04:34 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Inexperienced men who want to improve should get practice girlfriendsIsn't it only pretending because he doesn't have any LTR plans for her, and it's only to build up his experience? Some men are only in relationships with women to pass the the time, but they're not doing it to build up experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 04:30 PM |
| – | How easy or difficult is dating for you? How much male attention do you get in daily life?A pretty woman in her early 20's is at her peak attractiveness, of course she'll have it easier than an early 20's male who is just beginning to build up his attractiveness. She can be as demanding as she wants since there are men in their 20's, 30's, and 40's who all want her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 04:24 PM |
| – | How easy or difficult is dating for you? How much male attention do you get in daily life?The reasons she gave are valid though. It's important to have some core stuff in common with whoever you want to marry one day. Your marriage will be rough if you disagree on things like kids, religion, politics, etc no matter how physically attracted you are to each other or how many hobbies/passions you have in common. If you're not compatible with them for a future marriage, then stop wasting their time and break it off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 04:22 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men frequently lose in life if they are too empathetic towards women and female issuesWe can generalize being good here as a man thinking he's equal, or in some cases, even below, to the woman, and the bad man as someone who thinks he's above the woman and owns her. Most abusive men don't say "Omg ... haha ... sorry" often, they're always much more direct and less willing to care about women's feelings. A sense of "entitlement". Yes, exactly. What you don't hear about is how often they get rejected. They end up "succeeding" just by pure numbers, they find a woman with low emotion… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"?Nobody said anything about them not enjoying sex, they do the sex because it is enjoyable to them. It's about WHO they have the sex with. If you're having sex with men who only see you as a human fleshlight, then why are you so offended when other men start to think that you're just that, a human fleshlight? We get that it made you feel good at the time, but if you keep giving yourself to people who think less of you, then you shouldn't be offended when people say that YOU ARE less. Men who lack… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 03:41 PM |
| 1 | Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"?People don't respect people without self-respect. Women especially don't respect men who don't respect themselves either. It's not the sex that brings in such associations and derogatory terms, it's who the sex is done with. If you sleep around with men who see you as nothing but a sex object, then other men in the future will likewise see you as a sex object. If you only sleep with men who must first earn the right to your body through commitment and by meeting other high-standards, then other … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 03:22 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Men frequently lose in life if they are too empathetic towards women and female issuesYou say empathy isn't a turn off, our view of women is, and yet men who view you as human-sized sex toys and good only for fucking get as much as they want. So are you sure that the empathy isn't the turn off here? Do you unironically think that an average male who treats women as above him, or even at his level, can get laid more than an average male who thinks women are below him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 03:05 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men frequently lose in life if they are too empathetic towards women and female issuesThe punishment is being bad is more likely to get you sex/attraction, while being nice makes sex/attraction more unlikely (versus being neutral). If being kind had the same effect as being neutral (mirroring a woman's actions, not doing more or less), then we wouldn't even be having this conversation, but being good is legitimately a turn off for most women. I understand the logic behind why this happens, and the biology too, but please have the self-awareness the realize this whenever you whine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 03:00 PM |
| 0 | Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"?I admit this is more of a male thing, I'm someone who prefers the truth served raw and as potent as possible the point across. This isn't meant to dehumanize women or men. When I found out that one of my friends had his contact name as Uber on the phone of the girl he was trying to get with, I told him that without sugarcoating it to get the point across that he's being exploited. Same goes for a woman who I'd say is being used as a fleshlight by a guy who is just using her for sex. Men who use … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 02:53 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men frequently lose in life if they are too empathetic towards women and female issuesWhat standards? I feel like neither men nor women in their 20's are held to any standard. The whole point is that women only stop chasing after "bad boys" in their 30's, they gain that level of emotional maturity that late, but by then, most men in their 30's are already jaded as hell after what they went through in their 20's. In the ideal world, women in their 20's have the same emotional maturity as women in their 30's, and men keep trying to be "nice guys". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 02:45 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Men frequently lose in life if they are too empathetic towards women and female issuesCorrect, nothing ever entitles you to sex, except maybe marriage, but even then, to a small degree. The point isn't that being good should entitle you to sex, the point is that being good shouldn't decrease your chances of being able to have sex. Humans are pavlovian at the end of the day, incentivize X enough (giving sex to "bad boys"), and disincentivize Y enough (not giving sex to "good guys"), and people will become do more of X. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Women make it very stressful for men to stay singleFemale ones? Less so than other women, since they know their virginity makes them more attractive to men and they have less emotional baggage from failed relationships overall. Male ones? Hard to say, but maybe yes on average, since the average male just wants to get laid. But at the same time, every jaded guy I know has a story of him being a loverboy at first, getting his heart broken once, and then turning evil because of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/25 02:35 PM |
| -5 | Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"?There's no shred of sympathy, full offense is intended with the goal of attempting to change the individual's behavior. It has nothing to do with sex, because you're purely describing sex with non-committed men. Actual women who love sex and have a high libido usually find a partner that is good at pleasing them, and they stick with that one person. They don't let dozens of dudes use them as human fleshlights and say they got something out of it because they enjoyed it too, like nah. Some women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/25 02:40 AM |
| 1 | Given how marriage benefits men at the expense of women, is it time to abolish marriage?You do realize that it goes both ways right? He seems like he was upfront about not wanting marriage, it's his female partners that end up ending the relationship because they decide that they want marriage after all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/25 02:27 AM |
| -7 | Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"?I see this as the female version of a man who gets exploited financially being called a piggybank, free meal, walking ATM, simp, betabuxxer, or Uber. I don't believe it's offensive to call a man who gets exploited financially a walking ATM, even if he enjoys spending what little money he has while being in the "friendzone". I've never used the term cum dumpster, but what's wrong with human fleshlight here? You are objectively being used as a human fleshlight by another human being (basically a s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/25 01:59 AM |
| -5 | Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"?I understand the terms are offensive, but I don't find them all that inaccurate. Not in the sense that women are actual fleshlights or cum dumpsters, but in the sense that some men legitimately view women as fleshlights or cum dumpsters, as in they're only with these women for the sexual benefits, and wouldn't entertain any semblance of a relationship with them without the aspect of sex. What other term would you use for a man who uses women as human fleshlights and doesn't pursue a romantic rel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/25 01:31 AM |
| 27 | Why it's not "paranoia" when men worry about being taken advantage of financiallyWell said, 100% agree. I don't get why people try to change the other gender's standards instead of simply trying to find individuals they are more compatible with. I know it reduces their dating pool significantly, but big deal, at least you won't have to worry about being exploited. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/25 01:15 AM |
| -2 | Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"?I've had 4 different women on this sub argue with me about women not really being promiscuous or polygamous, it's definitely a common opinion here at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/25 12:59 AM |
| 17 | CMV: Men frequently lose in life if they are too empathetic towards women and female issuesIt's kind of fucked up, because what's the alternative here? From a young age, do we teach men to not be empathetic? It would certainly help their dating lives and make things much easier for them, but there would be far more violence and hatred against women if things were like this. The ideal world is one where men are taught to be empathetic, and where women are emotionally mature enough to not punish empathy or reward abusive men, but asking women to not sleep with abusive men who make their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/25 12:52 AM |
| 11 | CMV: Men frequently lose in life if they are too empathetic towards women and female issuesWomen are turned off by empathy, it makes dating significantly harder for men. The men who aren't empathetic meanwhile sleep with as many women as they want. The issue here isn't that people are expecting sex for being good, they're just expecting to not be punished for it (women losing attraction when you display empathy). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/25 12:40 AM |
| 15 | CMV: Men frequently lose in life if they are too empathetic towards women and female issuesDo you believe you're a good person? Any person who gets constantly punished for being good by the other gender will eventually build up resentment over the years, and even worse, seeing the bad men get rewarded with sex makes it sting even more. At some point, you realize empathy is a huge turn-off for women, and so you have to either change yourself or accept the fact that you'll never get to procreate with your "good boy" genes dying out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/25 12:38 AM |
| 23 | CMV: Men frequently lose in life if they are too empathetic towards women and female issuesI think, the worst part for men, the ones who are too empathetic, who do everything they can to not make women feel unsafe or uncomfortable, is seeing the men who don't give a shit about women get their pick of the litter when it comes to sleeping around with women or being in relationships with them, while the good men get nothing and constantly fail to attract women. This is why it's often the most abusive, disrespectful, and noncommitted men who bag the most women and sleep around the most, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/25 12:34 AM |
| 1 | People who don't like the fish analogy, are these ones better?So now you've switched your argument from "redpill influencers can only get laid with sex workers" to "redpill influencers also sleep with sex workers". The former is blatantly false, the latter is true, so there's nothing more to say. You've changed your argument to one I agree with, good enough for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/25 12:19 AM |
| 1 | People who don't like the fish analogy, are these ones better?Where did I ever say that they never slept with sex workers? You said that the only times they ever get laid is with sex workers, do you understand what that phrase means? You haven't given any evidence for it. Also, what 3? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 09:02 PM |
| 2 | Male vs Female Mating Strategy Is Really Younger vs Older Mating StrategyYeah but nobody cares what you think your "prime years" are, in the same way that nobody cares about how attractive that you think you are. I could be an ugly and poor introverted bastard and think of myself as a 10, but no woman will care, they will rate me based on how attracted they are to me themselves. That is the real rating. A man's/woman's prime years is when the opposite gender deems them at their peak attractiveness. It's not about how you "feel" about yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 07:53 PM |
| 2 | Remove the misogyny. Most red-pill or manosphere talking points would be praise in society. Doesn't matter how toxic the idea is.I don't even mind the first half of your comment, I know you'll call anything you don't like misogyny so you can keep doing that, it doesn't bother me. The issue is with your 2nd half of the comment, where you say the redpill is "generic advice" not really that good, and that disaffected males like it because they're all "misogynists" who blame everything on women. Let me tell you this, some in TRP definitely go this way, the most extreme incels do. But ultimately, most don't. The redpill is all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 07:50 PM |
| 2 | Why lie about the past to get into a relationship?Yes, because you're describing two different things here. You're describing lies to get laid, and lies to get into a relationship. When you let someone pump and dump you, that there is the end of it. The consequences of the man's lie never catch up to him because he has already moved on from you. He won't be making threads on r/relationship whining about how scared he is he might get dumped because he lied, no he doesn't care at all anymore. But when you lie to get into a relationship, you're st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 07:32 PM |
| 0 | People who don't like the fish analogy, are these ones better?No, I haven't seem them in a relationship with a sex worker either for that matter. Listen, fact of the matter is, neither of us can prove the other wrong because that evidence doesn't really exist. We can simply assume that because all influencers can easily get laid (esp. with female clout chasers and gold-diggers), that therefore there's no reason to assume these TRP guys would be any exception. Especially not when the advice they give to land women (even if low value ones) is objectively bet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 07:23 PM |
| 2 | Male vs Female Mating Strategy Is Really Younger vs Older Mating StrategyOkay, since you think a woman gets to decide her "prime years", do you also believe that men get to dictate what their "prime years" are too? Do you think men can say "Oh yeah, I'm at the age where most women find me attractive" while being 60 or 70? that's what you'd want it to be, understandable, but it's not, sorry Also, ironic. Your flair says millennial woman, so you're either in your 30's or 40's. It's understandable why you wouldn't want a woman's early 20's to be considered her prime yea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 07:20 PM |
| 3 | Male vs Female Mating Strategy Is Really Younger vs Older Mating StrategyIt's not just "some" men, it's most men. Why do people seem to struggle with the notion that exceptions don't make the rule? If you see someone say that X is true, then you can't deny X just because it doesn't apply to you or a few other people. It's true for as long as it applies to the majority of people. The vast majority of men consider younger women to be more attractive than older women, and therefore, from men's pov, those are a woman's "prime years". As a man, women will get to dictate w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Why lie about the past to get into a relationship?I was talking about the other example because it happens more often (male virgins lying about it). What you just described is 1000x worse, and makes the guy bottom of the barrel scum, but it should be way rarer. In all of these cases, it's terrible behavior that needs to be called out. Both men and women who do these lies need to be condemned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 05:56 PM |
| 1 | People who don't like the fish analogy, are these ones better?Yes but what's your proof they can only sleep with sex workers? Fresh and Fit are still famous at the end of the day, and fame does more for a man than physical looks and money ever will (an ugly famous actor can still get more laid than an unknown rich guy). I'm not just speaking about Fresh & Fit, and Andrew Tate here, this goes for literally all influencers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 05:47 PM |
| 1 | Remove the misogyny. Most red-pill or manosphere talking points would be praise in society. Doesn't matter how toxic the idea is.It's both men's and women's fault for the average man being unable to feel like a successful masculine man. Women from a young age learn how men are and are never given delusions about male expectation (they know men prioritize looks/attractiveness in a woman). Men meanwhile are told women want a nice/kind guy, who will treat them kindly and with respect, who won't be a creep, and who be supportive and respectful of her. Inevitably, the men keep getting rejected, while other men who treat women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 05:42 PM |
| 3 | Male vs Female Mating Strategy Is Really Younger vs Older Mating StrategyAnother case of "What you say is true in most cases, but I'll still say you're wrong because I believe I'm an exception". A women's peak attraction is in her early 20's from the male PoV, individual exceptions don't disprove that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 05:25 PM |
| 9 | Why lie about the past to get into a relationship?Absolutely not. She has every right to dump him for having lied to her about something she deemed important. I'd go as far as to say she objectively made the correct decision, because even if the man ended up being the perfect partner, there will always be some distrust brewing in the background because of that 1 major lie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 05:03 PM |
| 2 | Women make it very stressful for men to stay singleYeah I know, but honestly I see too many people try to justify certain things like why being a virgin or having a high body count is good or bad, when in reality it all revolves around what the other gender finds attractive. A man being is a virgin is simply bad because women find that unattractive. A woman having a high body count is simply bad because men find that unattractive. Going into the specifics is just hurtful for those 2 demographics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 05:00 PM |
| 4 | Why lie about the past to get into a relationship?Because a lie is still a lie at the end of the day? I can't just lie to my girlfriend about being 500,000$ in debt, and then tel her "Oh I don't think that matters too much" when she blows up about it. You don't get to decide what is important to your partner, only they do. If you lie to them about something that they deem important, and that you don't, it is still a severe lie, irrespective of the gender doing the lying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 04:54 PM |
| 6 | Why lie about the past to get into a relationship?Good point, but men will only use that lie once in their lives. Many high body count women will lie about that fact in almost every relationship they'll be in, so it's not really equivalent. From my POV, you're free to lie about this, but don't be upset when your partner dumps you when he finds the truth out. This is what the issue on r/relationship is, people asking for advice on how to deal with a partner who just found out they've been lied to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 04:50 PM |
| 12 | Women make it very stressful for men to stay singleUnmarried yes, virgin no. Spinsters and leftover women usually have high bodycounts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 04:45 PM |
| 2 | Women make it very stressful for men to stay singleThere's nothing inherently bad about being a virgin, there are pros to it (no emotional baggage/trauma, not jaded, pair-bonding intact, etc), in the same way that there's nothing inherently wrong with having a high n count. Women are simply more attracted to men who sleep around, and men prefer the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 04:43 PM |
| 1 | People who don't like the fish analogy, are these ones better?They only sleep with sex workers What's your proof for this? Or are you calling women who are clout-chasers and gold-diggers prostitutes too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch?Why would you hate women because you can’t get one to sleep with you? Because you're horny and want to get laid, but you're not being allowed to by the other gender. You wrote all of that for nothing, because I actually agree with you and find it pathetic when men resort to misogyny when they can't get laid instead of making the changes needed to be able to get laid in the first place. Evolution isn't about survival of the fittest, it's about the survival of whoever adapts the best to their envi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 04:37 PM |
| 3 | People who don't like the fish analogy, are these ones better?Yes they do. Even low-level influencers get laid a lot. Some of the most digusting streamers still show all the women hitting them in their Discord DM's. Like I said, if someone as ugly as Destiny could be a sex pest, then the vast majority of redpill coaches/gurus actually can as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 11:21 AM |
| 1 | Are alpha widows becoming more common?Sweetheart, you've already said it repeatedly, you reject other people's standards and whatnot. You can keep regurgitating the same "You didn't understand me!!" comment over and over without further elaborating, but it doesn't change what your initial comments were. You're not a bad person, but the people you don't want are to you what you are to the people that you want, it works like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 08:07 AM |
| 1 | Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch?I don't believe that the women who hate men (femcels, the ones whining about BARE MINIMUM!!, and the FDS-types), and the men who hate women, both do not crave meaningful romantic relationships. Seeing your partner as nothing but a fuck toy gets boring after a while, you crave intimacy and connection. The men who use sex with women as currency aren't incels or misogynists, because most of these men can actually get laid. They're covert misogynists in my opinion though, because they use women as f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 07:24 AM |
| 1 | Are alpha widows becoming more common?I know the point you're trying to make, but it's not true, so it's not a point. You're silly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 07:18 AM |
| – | Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch?No, he said that men dislike women even if they want to fuck them and that’s correct. Yes, and nobody cares about that. What came after? Just sayin’ lots of y’all would be happier if you were gay | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 07:15 AM |
| 1 | Are alpha widows becoming more common?You don't have a point though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 07:11 AM |
| – | Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch?Fix your reading honey, the "bi" "man" that I was responding to said he called incels gay because they're misogynists, not because they're unattractive. And yet nobody calls attractive misogynists gay, so maybe the unattractiveness is what gets you called gay, and not the misogyny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 07:10 AM |
| 1 | Are alpha widows becoming more common?You're essentially saying "I deserve what I want", while I'm saying "You deserve what you deserve". I just find it bizarre that you're in denial like this. I have a male friend who is essentially an alpha widow too, he bagged a baddie once and she became his standard, but because she was out of her league, he has been single for the last 5 years and probably will never find someone. Alpha widows really need to learn the hard way, which is a good thing, but unnecessarily painful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 07:07 AM |
| 4 | Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch?No it doesn't. You're using it for unattractive men who happen to be misogynists. You don't call attractive misogynists who sleep around with dozens of women gay or anything like that. Terrific homophobia by the way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 07:01 AM |
| 0 | Picking up many women in your youth, will make it harder for you to have a healthy long term relationship"As a guy who did lots of hookups and used women as sex toys without seeking LTR's from them, I believe that men who do not engage in this are the ones who really end up using women as sex toys!!" is a wild take. Lack of self-awareness or ragebait? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 06:58 AM |
| 1 | Are alpha widows becoming more common?I don't even know if you're an alpha widow, I was just speaking generally. Whether you care or not is irrelevant, facts ultimately don't care about anyone's feelings. Alpha widows will continue to keep demanding commitment from the same tier of men that previously only used them as human fleshlights, not realizing that while top men can use women below their league for sex, they will only want commitment from women in their league or above. "I reject your standards" is a weird thing to say, you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 06:55 AM |
| 2 | Are alpha widows becoming more common?You can't reject my imposed standards on you, you can only reject any attempt I make at pursuing you, and I wouldn't pursue you if you didn't meet my standards, so in a roundabout way, it's impossible for you to reject another person's standards. Your standards are your own, and mine are my own. The only difference is that for alpha widows, their standards make them demand men whose standards they don't meet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 06:45 AM |
| 4 | Are alpha widows becoming more common?What do you mean reject? You don't have any standards? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 06:33 AM |
| 5 | Are alpha widows becoming more common?An alpha widow is any woman who got fucked by a guy out of her league, and now expects her future partner to be as attractive as the guy who used her for sex. So yes absolutely, you can not be looking for a partner, and still be an alpha widow is the specter of the alpha who pumped-and-dumped you still lives in your head and is your new bar for expectations in a man when it comes to attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 06:16 AM |
| 0 | Are alpha widows becoming more common?League and standards are the same. If your standards correspond to a top 20% man, while you're an average woman yourself, then you're demanding someone out of your league. And just like how you reject men who don't meet your standards (aren't in your league), the men who DO meet your standards likewise see you as being below their league, so they will only use you for sex, but never give you commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 05:59 AM |
| 5 | Are alpha widows becoming more common?Nah, male alpha widows don't exist because top 10-20% women don't give average men any sexual attention at all, but the top 10-20% of men do use average women for sex all the time. So the average woman gets some experience with the top 10-20% man, and he becomes her new standards. But the average man never got to experience a top 10-20% woman, so his standard remains someone on his level or lower (because he struggles to get a relationship). For most men, their first love was probably their most… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 05:57 AM |
| 3 | Are alpha widows becoming more common?Everybody cares about leagues. You described a woman who refuses to date someone below her league, or even on her league, and likewise, the reason so many women are alpha widows is because high-value men also refuse to commit to a relationship with a woman below their league (those women are only good for sex). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 05:52 AM |
| 1 | Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch?Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 05:48 AM |
| 5 | Are alpha widows becoming more common?It's not 30 vs 25, it's more like 35 vs 30 now. The vast majority of femcels are women in their mid-30's, a bit late to have a good and healthy family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 05:35 AM |
| 5 | Are alpha widows becoming more common?It 100% is the case, and also applies equally to men too. Got a friend who through inexplicable luck bagged a baddie years ago (they only dated for 2 weeks), and he has been single since because he refuses to date any woman not on the baddie's level even though she was out of his league. I unironically believe he will forever be single because he'll never get a woman like that again. It's a curse, and to think this type of thing happens to a large portion of women, multiple times in their lives,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 05:32 AM |
| 1 | Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch?There's no circles, you keep ignoring and jumping around the main argument I've made that debunks your entire point, namely that attractive misogynists that sleep around never get called gay. We both know that never happens, and we've both seen average men/incels get called gay (or told should be gay) whenever they air out any relationship-related grievances with the opposite gender. The problem is, why are you so desperate to virtue-signal like this when men admit to doing the same thing? We al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 05:16 AM |
| 1 | why do men hate sluts so much, instead of just feeling neutral?It kind of does, because if you're just like that (you settled with a promiscuous woman who has hopped on more penises than you'd like because you felt like she was way too hot for you), then you shouldn't phrase it like an insult. Fact is, the vast majority of men are willing to tolerate more bullshit from women as long if they're hot, so this isn't a dig at you, but don't phrase your comment like an attack when it feels like you're projecting. You're not wrong but damn, choose your words caref… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 05:12 AM |
| 1 | Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch?Yes, the point is, women for the most part don't hate men because they're misogynistic. No, what they really hate is unattractive men. A man can be as misogynistic as he wants, but if he's attractive, women will still jump at him and none will dare to call him gay. The average unattractive incel though? Bombs away. The thing that gets me is that men do the same thing, we're much more critical of women we're not attracted to than ones we are. But we don't lie or try to hide this fact, so why do y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 05:07 AM |
| -4 | Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch?it’s about the validation of having a girlfriend, not about genuinely connecting with someone Hold on, you don't think men crave a romantic and emotional connection with women? You think they purely want a human fleshlight? It's the top 20% of men that sleep around the most without wanting an LTR, are they ever called gay too? their desired traits as subservient and obedient (whoops, said the quiet part out loud) Yes, the same traits women want in men they're in a relationship with. Or are you g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 05:02 AM |
| 1 | Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch?Ah you're right, these rappers don't really sleep around with the dozens or hundreds of women who regularly jump at them every day, no they're actually God-fearing Christians who are in happy and monogamous long-term relationships. When Future and Young Thug say shit like "She's for the streets!", it's all a stage persona and they're not really sleeping around with "bitches and hoes", right? :facepalm: | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 04:40 AM |
| -1 | Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch?Not just sleeping with them, but also being in romantic relationships as well. If most women wanted to be with a man, but couldn't because most men don't let them be with one, they'd also hate most men too. You usually hate whoever it is that denies you what you want. for deeply closeted gay men to act misogynistic Never seen one, not in fiction nor in real life. On average, I believe gay men are much less likely to be misogynistic than the average man is. Ironically, I have seen many lesbians b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 04:36 AM |
| 1 | why do men hate sluts so much, instead of just feeling neutral?Is he right tho? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 04:29 AM |
| -6 | Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch?You don't understand, they hate women because they can't get laid, that's the root cause of their hatred. So of course it's all about not living up to certain standards, because no man who sleeps around a lot will ever be told "just be gay" even if he's straight up saying misogynistic shit. Here's an example, there are rappers out there talking about how women are nothing but bitches and tricks, only good for fucking and dumping. Seems pretty misogynistic right? But they get laid a lot, so do pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 04:18 AM |
| 6 | People who don't like the fish analogy, are these ones better?Because they give the worst advice imaginable? The same women who respond only to assertiveness, and only chase relationships with 'chemistry', are usually the ones advocating the most for men to be "nice/kind", and for them to treat women like princesses, even though any guy doing that would instantly lose their attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 04:07 AM |
| 8 | People who don't like the fish analogy, are these ones better?No they don't. The vast majority of redpill coaches, or any influencer really, do sleep with lots of women. Even ugly streamers like Destiny can get laid with lots of women and be sex pests because of their fame. Can't really use the "you don't get laid lol" insult with influencers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 04:05 AM |
| -10 | Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch?I understood what you meant, but so many women also say "If men aren't happy with how women are, then they should just date other men", and it's in the same vein as women calling a man gay because he doesn't find a certain women attractive (despite her being conventionally attractive). Basically saying a man is gay, or should be gay, because he doesn't live up to certain standards, or fails to get laid with women, or is just unattractive. So you may not have meant it, but you used the same phras… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 03:59 AM |
| -2 | Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch?Are you gay yourself? There is a trend of many religious homophobes being gay themselves, but this doesn't really apply to misogynists. Not sure why so many gay men and women think redpillers/incels are gay, it's lowkey homophobic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Men don’t feel entitled to a relationship/sex, women just have free access to itYes, because men offer it like it's going out of style. But you wouldn't snort some crack given by a random stranger for free, would you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 04:06 AM |
| 0 | There is no moral failure in not wanting to sleep with whatever percentage of men.If she makes extra money then good for her, but it's all hers so I don't care. As a man I will be paying all the bills, the house, the expenses, everything, so her having extra income is irrelevant to me aside from it being a nice small bonus because it's less-taxed income. Then what are men complaining about? Not sure, but I believe that women seeking wealth and status is as biological as men seeking signs of fertility and youth. A gold digger and a guy obsessed with big boobs are both going of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/25 12:49 PM |
| 1 | If Women are hypergamous, then Men are the Prize. Make her work for it.Not at all, to the opposite, I love gender-based standards, and as a top earner, care very much for the provider expectation that women have of men. It's just funny seeing some women online claim this expectation doesn't exist, because like, where are you irl? Do you think saying this makes you different? What about that is so confusing? You misunderstand, the only one confused here is you. Until you're willing to tell me the majority of women don't want a provider, your anecdotal experience is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/25 12:35 PM |
| 1 | There is no moral failure in not wanting to sleep with whatever percentage of men.Hold on, so you think it's right for women to reject men because they refuse to settle or lower their standards, but think it's unacceptable for men to do this? You sound sexist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/25 12:33 PM |
| 1 | There is no moral failure in not wanting to sleep with whatever percentage of men.Thank you for your perspective, it was interesting reading your comment. I'd like to say this, nowadays most men don't approach women like they used to. Decades ago, average men would ask average women out and it worked well, but now a large portion of men don't even bother anymore because they know they have a 95% chance of being shot down since even the women they think are in their league think they're too good for them. A lot of men are jaded and don't approach anymore, so that could explain… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/25 12:32 PM |
| -2 | There is no moral failure in not wanting to sleep with whatever percentage of men.Men don't care about money? There's no difference between a hot woman who is unemployed and a hot woman who makes good money as an engineer? Yes, correct. how is it different than men wanting physical features like breasts and body shape and facial symmetry? It's not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:43 PM |
| 0 | There is no moral failure in not wanting to sleep with whatever percentage of men.Women are expected to be virginal Nothing wrong with this. In the modern age, a low n-count woman is a high-value woman. She's unlike the rest. and also immediately sexually available. This here is the problem with men. Men should earn the right to that by showing that they're worthy first. The issue is, a lot of men get mad when a girl they know who slept around isn't immediately sexually available, because the thought is "you let that bum rawdog you on the first date, but you're making me work… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:42 PM |
| 4 | There is no moral failure in not wanting to sleep with whatever percentage of men.Over 80% of women are attractive to the average man. If you believe that you're average in terms of looks compared to other women your age group, then you should go for an average guy, who will definitely find you attractive. When you complain about men not being attracted to you because you're not an IG model, it feels like you're once again only considering the top few % of men who get to say no to an average woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:38 PM |
| -1 | There is no moral failure in not wanting to sleep with whatever percentage of men.The issue is, over 80% of men are unattractive to the average woman, while over 80% of women are attractive to the average man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:36 PM |
| 6 | There is no moral failure in not wanting to sleep with whatever percentage of men.Who are these "actual redpillers"? And where do they deny that men also have to change to adapt to the modern world? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:34 PM |
| 6 | The arguments on here are so circularHow's the other way around not control too? Why are you trying to control how they behave with you? Your comment is true, but only because the majority of women are dating the same few men. Since most women are dating, and most men aren't dating, we end up in a case where women complain about how men are treating them in dating, and men complaining about how women are before dating. This also means that the complaints men have are true for the majority of women, but that the complaints women hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:30 PM |
| 1 | If Women are hypergamous, then Men are the Prize. Make her work for it.I'm not obstinate, I'm just teaching you about the concept of "the exception doesn't make the rule" for the first time. I mean, you haven't even denied what I said, you did only say it wasn't true for you and your friends. What in the hell made you think I cared about you and your friends? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:27 PM |
| 7 | The arguments on here are so circularThat's not what he said, he said that female complaints are true, but they're only about a small percentage of men, while male complaints are also true, but they're true for the majority of women. When you consider that only 1/3rd of Gen Z women are single, while over 2/3rds of Gen Z males are single, you start seeing his point. Most men aren't dating for women's complaints to be true about most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:25 PM |
| 1 | If Women are hypergamous, then Men are the Prize. Make her work for it.No they don't, who the fuck are you lying to? You can say what you want, but unless your action prove otherwise, nobody will care about words. The primary tenet of the redpill is to not to listen to what women say, but to observe what they do. A woman will say she wants an equal partner, but will then only go after men who maker more than her, are taller than her, have more status than her, and are above her in most ways. This is the reality for most men. I'm not accusing you of being a liar, I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:22 PM |
| 1 | If Women are hypergamous, then Men are the Prize. Make her work for it.I don't know anything about you, and I don't care about you. I care about how the majority of women are, and most expect their man to make more than them and be providers. So your anecdotal evidence is worthless to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:20 PM |
| 6 | The arguments on here are so circularSee, this is my point. Both genders are "me, me, me", you will seldom see people, of either gender, admit the wrongdoings of their own gender and not try to put the blame entirely on the other gender. From my pov, you're the female version of a redpiller who blames all relationship wrongdoings on women. Overall, yes, men want to control women, but women also want to control men. Both sides want the other to have low self-esteem (once in a relationship), because it allows them to better control t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Struggling men should focus on making life unfair for others, especially political and social enemiesI'm not defending OP, I'm just saying that 1 of his arguments is legitimate from his POV. If he's angry about women withdrawing from him, then the only real thing he can do is to do the same back. You won't see me defend a Trump supporter like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:15 PM |
| 1 | If Women are hypergamous, then Men are the Prize. Make her work for it.Why is it that whenever I say something that is true for MOST women, I always get women who say "b-b-but me and my friends are different!"? You can be different of course, but most women aren't like this. Most women want a man who makes more than them, that's an undeniable fact. And the less he makes than them, the less they're attracted to him overall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:12 PM |
| 1 | If Women are hypergamous, then Men are the Prize. Make her work for it.Ah yes, the "I don't need a man who provides, but wouldn't date a man who doesn't provide" woman. Thank you for your contribution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:10 PM |
| 1 | What have you tried in your life that was *actually* deeply transformative?You have a very similar experience to me, also became a top 3% earner for my age group. A year in though, I find myself jaded a bit. Because I put in so much work to get this far, I feel like I deserve a high-value woman, but can't find any. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 03:51 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Struggling men should focus on making life unfair for others, especially political and social enemiesI agree. I think OP's point about voting for Republicans and Trump is idiotic, because he is also hurting himself with that, but to be fair, his point about not protecting women isn't entirely wrong either. He doesn't have to take active action to harm others, because women aren't actively trying to harm him. He can only do to women what women do to him, withdraw from the opposite gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 03:41 AM |
| 6 | I think boyfriend/husband material is more validatingThe most important part being, women's attraction threshold for hookups is much higher than husbands. A woman will only accept a hookup with someone much more attractive than she is, but will have lower standards for someone she's considering for an LTR. It's definitely a diss against the husband/boyfriend to remind him of his place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 03:12 AM |
| 2 | Women: Why are you unable / unwilling to understand why most men consider "hookup/FWB material" more validating than "husband material" given that you put the FWB/hookup guys in a way more exclusive, privileged, elite club?My girl, go on any thread and look for bluepilled women comments to see what I claim. In the last week, I've had 5 different bluepill women reply to me saying I'm wrong to say bodycounts should matter. I can name names if you're still in denial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:13 AM |
| 1 | Women: Why are you unable / unwilling to understand why most men consider "hookup/FWB material" more validating than "husband material" given that you put the FWB/hookup guys in a way more exclusive, privileged, elite club?I'm not looking for it, but it does show up in my feed, and although I try to avoid it, it comes back often enough, making me think that Meta/TikTok think I'm a prime demographic for this type of content. And the whole men with their harem's is right out of red pill Why do you think situationships exist? It is amazing how men here just can't think past their dicks What are you even saying here lmao? That doesn't even make any sense, when a man is "thinking with his dick", that means he's horny. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:11 AM |
| -3 | If Women are hypergamous, then Men are the Prize. Make her work for it.Your point doesn't make any sense. In both America and 3rd world countries, the woman will expect the man to provide financially for her, and will lose attraction to him if he doesn't (there are very few couples where the man makes more). The only difference is that the American woman will make more demands of the husband than the 3rd world woman would, so why would men go for the American women in this instance? I'm anti-passport bros by the way, and consider it an admission of the man's failur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 02:06 AM |
| 5 | The arguments on here are so circularThis right here is probably the #1 source of woe for women when it comes to dating, expectations that don't meet reality. But like many women say, they'd rather be alone than "settle" for someone they deem at their level or lower, not realizing that they're competing with countless other women for the few men that DO meet their expectations (aka top 20% men). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 01:59 AM |
| 39 | The arguments on here are so circularThe arguments are circular because women don't care about men's complaints when it comes to relationships, and men don't care about women's complaints when it comes to relationships. Men come here to complain about how women shouldn't sleep around, go for assholes, shouldn't demand gender-role benefits while avoiding their own, and shouldn't expect high value men while most women are mid. Women come here to complain about how men only use them for sex, aren't more committed in relationships, don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 01:55 AM |
| 2 | Women: Why are you unable / unwilling to understand why most men consider "hookup/FWB material" more validating than "husband material" given that you put the FWB/hookup guys in a way more exclusive, privileged, elite club?Like I said, you sound like you're in your late 30's or 40's, in which case I understand your POV. But respectfully, I'm telling you, the ballgame is quite different nowadays. Got exponentially worse since Covid. Women here have said over and over that casual sex gives little reward. Other women on this sub would maul you for this statement. A third of my arguments on this sub are with bluepill women defending hook-up culture and having a large bodycount, they attack me for saying slut-shaming i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 01:49 AM |
| 2 | Women: Why are you unable / unwilling to understand why most men consider "hookup/FWB material" more validating than "husband material" given that you put the FWB/hookup guys in a way more exclusive, privileged, elite club?The vast majority of the times I've seen the word "situationship" used is by women, not men. Men don't even use this word because it would oust their secretive harem and they want to keep it hidden to add more women to it. Countless women on IG, FB, TikTok, etc whining about their situationship refusing to become "more than friends" and also refusing to "soft/hard launch them", when that is by design. They can't imagine possibly being used as human fleshlights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 01:46 AM |
| 1 | A lot of you have really conflicting values. What are your core preferences?The n count and respect don't matter one bit. I believe in cases like this, a lot of people take their own PoV or current living experience, and apply it society-wide even though it doesn't apply to most people, so I'll say this : I'm a late 20's male, and this is my experience with early and mid-20's women, and that of many other men my age at least. If you're a woman in your 30's, you're likely dealing with 30's men in their peak who are whoring around and just want you for sex, so the experie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/25 12:11 AM |
| 1 | The idea that women lose value by having sex with men incentivizes misandryYes they do, it happens all the time. You're with the girl of your dreams, everything's going well, and then she drops the most revolting bop lore and you realize she never will be your wife. Most men have had a moment like this in their lives, which is why women whine so much about slut-shaming. Weird, you'd think they would never complain about it if it never happened as you're implying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/25 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Single Men have better mental health than married men nowadaysGood, women shouldn't marry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/25 02:27 AM |
| 1 | Single Men have better mental health than married men nowadaysAre you anti-marriage? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/25 02:24 AM |
| 3 | Single Men have better mental health than married men nowadaysYes OP is likely trolling all the women in their 30's who try to convince men that marriage is better for them than it is for women. If one is gender is desperately begging or asking the other side to do more marriages, they're most likely the gender that benefits the most from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/25 02:22 AM |
| 6 | The red pill ideology does not hold true for most high status individualsOP, what are you even going on about? The redpill only concerns romantic relationship dynamics, and has nothing to do with real life outside of that. the Harvey Specter’s of the world are not going for submissive housewives. There, you made your first relationship-relevant statement. The Harvey Specter's of this world got married in their 20's and 30's, they're married and set, they're not going for anybody at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/25 02:09 AM |
| – | Women giving themselves to bad men...its actually a revolutionary act against organized oppression by systems that hate individuality and autonomy. Women are just doing their job. It is biological.Not wanting to date someone, does not mean women give themselves to bad men. Who said this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/25 02:04 AM |
| -2 | Women who hook up... why?You got defensive for nothing, I never said the reasons were invalid. I was curious as to what you would say because even sleeping requires some effort (going to bars, attending social events, vetting men to a minimum level, etc), so the whole "she's too busy to date seriously" didn't really make sense. Also, a rebound isn't just a committed relationship with a new partner. Sleeping casually with a new guy after a breakup/divorce is still a rebound. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/25 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Women: Why are you unable / unwilling to understand why most men consider "hookup/FWB material" more validating than "husband material" given that you put the FWB/hookup guys in a way more exclusive, privileged, elite club?Genuinely, how old are you? You sound like a woman in your late 30's or 40's. The world is far different right now than it was for your generation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/25 01:53 AM |
| 1 | A lot of you have really conflicting values. What are your core preferences?They complain about paying for random strangers who they know little about. I'm saying, if a man knew beforehand that he was dating a high-value woman, he wouldn't mind paying, because it's a worthy investment for him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/25 01:51 AM |
| 1 | The idea that women lose value by having sex with men incentivizes misandryNobody said anything about permission boo. People can reject you as a potential LTR for any reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/25 01:49 AM |
| 1 | The idea that women lose value by having sex with men incentivizes misandryLooks like I struck a nerve 😂 Honey, if you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen 😂😂 You have a right to judge his past, and he has a right to judge your past too. If he's not ok with your history of being a hoe, then he has the right to dump you for that. Men and women are entitled to their preferences sweetheart, and most men prefer a low n count woman. Smart women don't cheat, and they don't have "men on speed dial" either, only hoes do. Also, still taking my example literally when I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 04:12 AM |
| – | Women: Why are you unable / unwilling to understand why most men consider "hookup/FWB material" more validating than "husband material" given that you put the FWB/hookup guys in a way more exclusive, privileged, elite club?2/3rds of Gen Z men are single. 1/3rd of Gen Z women are single. Does that make sense to you? We're talking about women in their 20's by the way. Once women hit their 30's, they try to put their "hoe phase" behind them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 03:45 AM |
| – | The idea that women lose value by having sex with men incentivizes misandrySure then, keep deceiving the man and living life in fear of your boyfriend or husband possibly finding out about your past and blowing up about it over you because you made it 1000x worse by lying and hiding it from him. Who the hell wants to hide a deal-breaker secret from their significant other for life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 03:42 AM |
| – | Why do women hate the man when the man has moved on from them despite they are ghosting the man?Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 03:28 AM |
| -2 | A lot of you have really conflicting values. What are your core preferences?They're not. No man complains about paying for dates with low n count women, or women with high self-respect. Men complain about paying for dates with B women only. If a woman truly could be the future mother of my children, then she gets my paycheck from day 1. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 03:02 AM |
| – | Women: Why are you unable / unwilling to understand why most men consider "hookup/FWB material" more validating than "husband material" given that you put the FWB/hookup guys in a way more exclusive, privileged, elite club?I have no idea what the betabuxxer looked like, but he had a nice car apparently and took her to a nice restaurant. She was a solid 7 in her natural state (basically more attractive than 70% of women our age group). No idea what the situationship looked like, but he sounded like a bum according to her. Not gonna lie, her story lowkey shook me and still lives rent-free in my head from time to time, I always try to watch out for these things now. She was a great friend and I deeply miss her but da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Women who hook up... why?Your experience is the objectively true one, and corresponds to biology and neurochemistry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 02:34 AM |
| 2 | Women who hook up... why?Can you explain the first part? Men will sometimes get told to not date if they're broke, but what's stopping women from dating seriously? Excluding someone actively on the go ofc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 02:31 AM |
| – | The idea that women lose value by having sex with men incentivizes misandryHaving to hide who you are is living in repression, because you're repressing your past and your identity. How is being a MURDERER It was an example of how someone being able to hide their past doesn't necessarily mean their past doesn't exist anymore. That's a strong example to get the point across. Your past matters, and hoes who've slept around shouldn't have to live with hiding a part of who they are. They should be upfront about it, but instead of attacking the men that refuse to marry a ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 02:26 AM |
| 1 | Women: Why are you unable / unwilling to understand why most men consider "hookup/FWB material" more validating than "husband material" given that you put the FWB/hookup guys in a way more exclusive, privileged, elite club?Other women huh, but not you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 02:16 AM |
| – | Women: Why are you unable / unwilling to understand why most men consider "hookup/FWB material" more validating than "husband material" given that you put the FWB/hookup guys in a way more exclusive, privileged, elite club?Women that sleep around can still go on dates with betabuxxers who will spend hundreds on them each. They have a huge incentive to lie about it. I've literally had a woman tell me irl that one time she went on a date with a guy, and then went over to her situationship's crib for sex the same night. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 02:14 AM |
| – | Women: Why are you unable / unwilling to understand why most men consider "hookup/FWB material" more validating than "husband material" given that you put the FWB/hookup guys in a way more exclusive, privileged, elite club?You're still dodging his point. Nobody said you don't find your husband hot, just that your FWB's must have a higher attractiveness criteria than your future husband does. Read his comment again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 02:07 AM |
| – | Women: Why are you unable / unwilling to understand why most men consider "hookup/FWB material" more validating than "husband material" given that you put the FWB/hookup guys in a way more exclusive, privileged, elite club?What a weird statement, he never said that women aren't attracted to their husbands, just that their threshold for attractiveness is higher for a FWB than it is for than potential LTR's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 02:06 AM |
| 1 | The idea that women lose value by having sex with men incentivizes misandryYes, at this point they know they should lie about their past if they care more about being with their partner than being open about themselves (they live in repression), but it's legitimately hard to forever hide something like this. Yes it does matter. If I was a murderer and I hid that fact from you, would it not matter just because it has no effect on you? After all, my serial murderer days are now far behind me. It does me. Individuals are the sum culmination of their decisions. Hoes will a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 02:04 AM |
| – | Why do women hate the man when the man has moved on from them despite they are ghosting the man?Why is it that literally every single guy I know has had something like this happen to them, and yet when you go on the Internet, all the women claim that they're not like this? Same for women losing respect for us when we cry or show emotions, why is it that nearly all men have went through this experience, and yet all women online claim that they're not like this? Is this virtue signalling, or are you legitimately oblivious to when you do something like this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 01:59 AM |
| 4 | Men have it harder in dating than women doWhat percentage of CEOs are women exactly? Since watching female CEO's destroy great businesses is a small hobby for you, I'm sure you have many other examples and statistics to back up your claim. I’ve been watching this unfold for years and would say roughly 1/1000 women have the work ethic, perseverance and smarts to operate a serious business and the rest should literally stick to their knitting. Good job on debunking your own point with this one. CEO's are the only people that answer to sha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/25 01:42 AM |
| 2 | An average young woman *isn't average*You're right OP! Although I'd say it's more 20-25 than 18-28. Dating an 18 or 19 year-old is a bad look, and 28 is already the "wall" for some guys. An average 20-25 year old woman, who isn't engaging in hook up culture, is a very high-value woman, and she deserves a successful man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 06:21 AM |
| 1 | Q4 people who believe that promiscuity damages a womans capacity to "pair-bond" --why doesn't having generally good life, good family etc. also damage a womans capacity to pair bond?On a final note, by the way, I want to make it clear that we're both good lol. I've only been in LTRs, so how dopamine works corresponded to my own personal experience, where admittedly, sex with my ex wasn't as pleasurable the 30th time it was as the 1st. It was still pleasurable of course, but nothing beats the raw passion at the start. If you've been more promiscuous, then sex will always remain pleasurable up until a certain a point where you start craving novelty, which is now monogamy. I f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 06:10 AM |
| 1 | Q4 people who believe that promiscuity damages a womans capacity to "pair-bond" --why doesn't having generally good life, good family etc. also damage a womans capacity to pair bond?And how do they define addiction? As too much pleasure, so you can't even use that to run away from the main point. Married women don't care about slut shaming. Exactly. We do find it hilarious when someone spews nonsense about sex being "less pleasurable". Science and biology couldn't care less about your feelings or what you find hilarious. Sounds like you'll never be married because one day sex will new less pleasurable for you Not everything revolves around sex :) I do keep it in mind though… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 06:00 AM |
| 1 | Q4 people who believe that promiscuity damages a womans capacity to "pair-bond" --why doesn't having generally good life, good family etc. also damage a womans capacity to pair bond?They aren't the ones saying that sex is less pleasurable after having it for years or decades. Yes they are, literally. She literally says that your brain adapts to whatever pleasurable thing you do, and it becomes less pleasurable unless you chase a new high. Pleasurable and stimulating are synonymous here btw. I'm kind of wondering though, maybe it's because I'm a guy and the first time I did it with a virgin girl, it was very awkward, but still extremely stimulating, so was your 1st time real… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 05:50 AM |
| 1 | Q4 people who believe that promiscuity damages a womans capacity to "pair-bond" --why doesn't having generally good life, good family etc. also damage a womans capacity to pair bond?Uh huh, yeah, sure. Me, the Stanford researcher, and all biologists and neurologists are all wrong. You sure proved all of us wrong with your "Just trust me bro, it didn't happen to me! reasoning". It's kind of ironic, because I even mentioned earlier that sleeping with a new person actually generates 40x the amount of dopamine that sex with a person you're used to would, and since you have a "Promiscuous Woman" flair, I can see why sex never stopped being pleasurable to you lol. Mystery solved … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 05:28 AM |
| 2 | Men have it harder in dating than women dobecause you're interviewing people smarter than you Are you claiming you couldn't do the same thing? If you're not smart enough to, then that's on you. I could've done the exact same thing the interviewee did if I was doing the interview, and once in, could've gone either route, of minimizing my workload through weaponized incompetence, or of increasing my skill-set by asking for more technical work. I did the latter when I started my career, and it has paid off tremendously. There's an element … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 05:23 AM |
| 1 | Q4 people who believe that promiscuity damages a womans capacity to "pair-bond" --why doesn't having generally good life, good family etc. also damage a womans capacity to pair bond?Lol, so even though I used the sex for the 1,000th time thing as an example for my original point, which was that because of how dopamine works, anything initially pleasurable becomes less pleasurable over time due to dopamine neuroadaptation, you're now fixating solely the example rather than the original point itself. Why? Simply because the article I cited didn't literally say "sex for the 1,000th time", but only said that sex in general becomes less pleasurable if you don't up the ante. Here… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 05:08 AM |
| 1 | Q4 people who believe that promiscuity damages a womans capacity to "pair-bond" --why doesn't having generally good life, good family etc. also damage a womans capacity to pair bond?The Stanford research paper literally says that your dopamine baseline adapts to whatever dopamine level you're getting, so you're left forever chasing a new high. Me saying sex is less pleasurable after 1,000 times is just a physical example of this, they won't use the number 1,000 per se, that's a random number that I used. you'll never convince me So you admit your feelings are more important to than you than scientific and biological facts. Why bother be on this sub if you're here in bad fai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 04:55 AM |
| 1 | Men have it harder in dating than women doNo it's not, maybe I shouldn't say stupid, but rather weaponized incompetence. I know they can operate at a higher productivity level, but they're always trying to do the least amount of work they can get away with. It's almost impossible to spot someone like that in the interview process, because anybody intelligent enough can feign passion and get away with it. I could easily do the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Q4 people who believe that promiscuity damages a womans capacity to "pair-bond" --why doesn't having generally good life, good family etc. also damage a womans capacity to pair bond?You just repeated your last comment while ignoring my comment which cited a a Standford Medical School doctor. Maybe your brain's neurochemistry is genuinely different, so I'll give you the benefit of doubt, but I assure you, 99.999....% of humans aren't like you. Sex, just like food, sugar, video-games, drugs, what ever, always becomes less after 1,000 times. Like I said in my original comment, why women that have slept around think sex is an exception to the neurochemistry of dopamine is beyon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 04:44 AM |
| – | People who want to be in relationships, don't engage in these discussions/debates. tl;dr of my Debate point at the end.I love this sub because it's not an incessant circlejerk. People here have actual differing views and can engage in debate without being bad faith actors. It honestly seems 50/50 between the red pill vs blue pill crowd, which is just about perfect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 04:06 AM |
| 2 | A lot of "successful" redpilled men are going to end up with a terrible partnerNah, the major issue is that it is not really worthwhile. It is alright to have others getting it for free, but its not alright to have a parasite at your side. No it's not, I feel like only a few people have this perception. I love spending money on women I'm with, but if you were to tell me that they're even nicer with someone else who got it for free, then they can go to them. You want to invest into the future mother of your children, that's who that woman is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 03:50 AM |
| 2 | A lot of "successful" redpilled men are going to end up with a terrible partnerWhat can be done though? What's the alternative? Maybe I'm gaslighting myself here, but I don't believe a woman is a bad person for being attracted to my social/economic status, in the same I don't believe I'm a bad person for placing a lot of importance on her looks. We're still animals at the end of the day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 03:47 AM |
| 6 | The idea that women lose value by having sex with men incentivizes misandryYou make a good point, the enemy here isn't sex or sexual pleasure, it's really sleeping around. But it seems like it's difficult to disincentivize hook-up culture without attacking sex directly. I can tell you this though, the disgust most men feel when women tell them their hoe stories highly revolves around the context of the sexual encounter. Like if a girl told me she gave a random guy a bj in a car in some parking lot on the first date, I would feel physical disgust. But if she instead sai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Why should women treat you like a Chad ?That's a good point actually, at what point does something become mistreatment? Remember what the original poster said, they said imagine if you're putting in more effort, while getting less pay, would you be okay with that? At my job, I have coworkers who work more than me, and get paid more than me. Am I being mistreated? Hell no. But if I were to find out that any of the coworkers that put in less effort get paid more, then I will consider quitting or demanding my manager increases my salary.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 03:28 AM |
| 5 | The idea that women lose value by having sex with men incentivizes misandryUh no, both have use in their own use-cases. In general, your value as a person is useful to you in everything in your life with the sole exception of relationships. Sleeping around damages your relationship prospects, but it doesn't have any effect on say your career progression or your fitness journey (unless you're sleeping with your boss or coach haha). Do men really hate men so much that men ruin women? It's called mate-guarding. To me, it's the equivalent of preselection to women. Most wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 03:18 AM |
| 7 | Men have it harder in dating than women doThere aren't any, that person is likely lying. I've been in the hiring process as well, interviewed over a dozen candidates with my own questions and picked the best 3. Some were stupid, some smart, most mediocre. It was easy since we had over 500 applications to choose from. As an employer, the worst part is realizing you got fooled a month in and one of the hires is actually stupid and lazy, and successfully faked their way in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 03:13 AM |
| 3 | Men have it harder in dating than women doIsn't that offset by most employers ghosting you instead of sending you a rejection message? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 03:10 AM |
| 3 | Men have it harder in dating than women doYou think it's easier for a woman to become a CEO than a man? I'd say women have it easier in most things, but to claim everything is just wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 03:07 AM |
| 4 | The idea that women lose value by having sex with men incentivizes misandryIt's interesting to think about. It makes zero sense for any man who likes sex with multiple women to slut-shame women. Fixed that for you*. Hook-up culture only incentivizes sleeping around with large numbers of people. The opposite of that isn't shaming sex, it's shaming sleeping around. A lot of women lack self-respect, self-esteem, and have unresolved trauma, which leads to seek pleasure through male sexual validation. This is why so many women that were SA'd as girls sleep around so much. S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 03:00 AM |
| 3 | The idea that women lose value by having sex with men incentivizes misandryYour value as a person =/= your relationship/sexual market value. Lots of men would never marry a woman with a body count, but would love to have her as a friend. It's even a common advice to befriend high body count women because they can usually help set you up with some of their friends that you're more compatible with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 02:52 AM |
| 5 | The idea that women lose value by having sex with men incentivizes misandryDating prospects? No. Marriage or LTR prospects? Yes. I feel like almost every guy has been through the canon event of thinking you finally found the one, only for her to drop the stomach-churning hoe lore that makes you realize she will never be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Q4 people who believe that promiscuity damages a womans capacity to "pair-bond" --why doesn't having generally good life, good family etc. also damage a womans capacity to pair bond?Why exactly is it fun to explore and be curious? Why does novelty become pleasurable after repetition? I'm trying to use your own words to make you understand here, but here's an actual scientific explanation : Something becomes less pleasurable due to the brain's natural process of neuroadaptation, also known as downregulation, where repeated exposure to pleasurable stimuli decreases the brain's sensitivity to dopamine. The brain tries to restore balance by reducing dopamine receptors or produc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Why do women hate the man when the man has moved on from them despite they are ghosting the man?Go on tiktok right now and search "When he moves on after you reject him". Most women do what OP described. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 02:38 AM |
| 3 | Why do women hate the man when the man has moved on from them despite they are ghosting the man?Considering how many men have had this happen to them, and how many women say they don't ever see anything like this happen, it leads me to think women simply aren't aware of when they do this. Go on Tiktok right now and search "When he moves on after you reject him" to see countless women doing exactly what OP says. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 02:36 AM |
| – | Q4 people who believe that promiscuity damages a womans capacity to "pair-bond" --why doesn't having generally good life, good family etc. also damage a womans capacity to pair bond?This feels surreal, explaining basic human concepts like how dopamine, serotonin, and oxytocin work to another human being. I feel like I'm being trolled. Surely you must've seen stuff in movies where like couples try newer things with sex because vanilla sex got too boring, like what do you think causes that exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Women are instructed to believed "all men bad" by other menWhere's the victim blaming here? You intentionally go for someone known to be "bad" because it makes you tingle down there, and are then shocked when he acts "bad" with you too? Like really? say women don’t take accountability. In this case, you're not. Why are you so allergic to accountability? You're not stupid, you knew that the guy you're attracted to could or would do this type of thing, so why did you pursue them anyway? You weren't able to control your emotions, and you got your nudes sha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 02:28 AM |
| 2 | Why should women treat you like a Chad ?Why not? You should definitely leave for a better job if you know you're being mistreated at your current job compared to other employees. What type of mentality would cause a male to behave like this? Are you really okay with being treated worse by your partner just because you're less attractive? How desperate must you be for the woman to accept this? A lack of options on your end? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Why should women treat you like a Chad ?Most men find the majority of women attractive, so a 5/10 woman is still attractive to most men, while the majority of women only find a small percentage of men attractive. This results in far too many women getting pretty privilege, something only a few men get. You don't have to simp for every attractive/mid woman that you see, only the ones you're seriously trying to pursue romantically in the short term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 02:20 AM |
| – | Q4 people who believe that promiscuity damages a womans capacity to "pair-bond" --why doesn't having generally good life, good family etc. also damage a womans capacity to pair bond?Another "That's not true! At least not to me!" comment. When will people understand that statements like this apply to the majority of people, but not to all. Also, strangest concept, really? The idea of something becoming less pleasurable when done in repetition over time is a strangest concept to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/25 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Through technology we have enabled women to prioritize short term dating hence why they are choosing men who would traditionally wouldn't be a good choice for marriageYes, unironically. Your lust isn't based on magic, it's still scientific at its core. Some visual cues trigger arousal, it's all chemicals and hormones in your brain going off based on visual and social cues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/25 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Through technology we have enabled women to prioritize short term dating hence why they are choosing men who would traditionally wouldn't be a good choice for marriageLol, you criticize me for being "vague" and not defining things properly, and then unironically proceed to say "My preference is a partner : she's attractive to me and we vibe". That's only the first step, use logic now to determine what made her attractive to you, and what allowed you to vibe. For nearly all men, a woman having a raunchy promiscuous past gives them an ick, in the same way that a man crying in front of a woman gives most women the ick. It's biological, it can't be controlled. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/25 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Through technology we have enabled women to prioritize short term dating hence why they are choosing men who would traditionally wouldn't be a good choice for marriageI don't use cuck as an insult, but are you really going to be a troll by denying a basic facts like the vast majority of men being put off by their partner have a promiscuous past with other men? Would you prefer if your partner had 100 previous sexual male partners, or 5? If you prefer 100, then you might be into cuckoldry, if 5, then you're like most guys. If you legitimately don't care either way, then most guys would say you're a cuckold-lite. And you never actually defined high value women.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/25 02:49 PM |
| 2 | If men are always expected to pay, why haven’t women accumulated more savings than men in western societies?Yep, all my female friends are also university-educated (in good fields), so they're likely a minority. Most younger women are probably working dead-end jobs and don't have much saved up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/25 02:41 PM |
| – | Through technology we have enabled women to prioritize short term dating hence why they are choosing men who would traditionally wouldn't be a good choice for marriageHow do you know what “most men want”? Because it is what is normal and what biologically and sociologically speaking, what men want? I have a question for you, do you have a cuck fetish by any chance? If you do, then this argument is pointless. If you don't, then you should understand why men feel an ick/disgust when their girl tells them about their sexual history. The idea of other men defiling her in such a manner is nauseous to most men, and they'd prefer if their partner didn't have this ty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/25 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Why do men gaslight women here?Internet trolls with nothing better to do, or some really stupid people. I'm the same as you, just here to gain perspective. Sometimes you will see people deny basic undeniable facts, I just gloss over it and ignore it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/25 02:29 PM |
| 1 | The people who spread hate just don't understand how the other gender loveThis is what the majority of female complaints about males are on the internet. All the complaints about situationships, ghosting after sex, guy leaving for a more attractive woman, all revolve around women complaining about polygamous men. Sometimes women will complain about certain behavior, but is only aimed at average men (as in they'd tolerate it if it was an attractive man doing it), that also revolves around male polygamy. Disclaimer, I'm of course talking about women in their 20's, and a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/25 02:27 PM |
| 1 | Women are instructed to believed "all men bad" by other menDo you trust blindly? As the saying goes, trust but verify. I know it's hard to think logically when you're with an attractive guy who makes your vagina tingle, but for the love of God, don't lower your guard with a man just because he's attractive to you. If you do, then the blame is on you. In the same way that I'd blame a man who lost all his money to a scammer woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/25 02:24 PM |
| 1 | If men are always expected to pay, why haven’t women accumulated more savings than men in western societies?I concede, factually you seem to be right. I think I placed too much important on anecdotal evidence, because most of my male friends are terrible with money (they blow too much of it on cars and hobbies), and most of my female friends have way more savings/money in the bank on average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/25 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Why should women treat you like a Chad ?No, because men do the same shit, and I'm not interested in being called a hypocrite or being bombarded with "Men do the same thing too!' replies from women. I wish other men didn't do the same, some attractive women get way too much preferential treatment even when they act like total cunts. Treat them the same as unattractive women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/25 02:12 PM |
| 2 | Why we avoid saying that women also care about attractiveness?Some resentful redpillers/incels attack women over this because since they were kids, they were taught (and told by) women care more about personality than looks, and that even if they're ugly, if they're nice or kind, they could have a girlfriend one day. Women were never taught such a lie about men, and knew from the get-go that men prioritize attractiveness/looks. The resent you're seeing is from former bluepillers who believed the lies told about women. I denounce these men btw, both men and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 04:03 AM |
| 0 | Through technology we have enabled women to prioritize short term dating hence why they are choosing men who would traditionally wouldn't be a good choice for marriageIt's not automatically what he wants, it's what most men want, including what most attractive men want. It's biology for the most part. And as a dude that was the “casual fun guy” that women weren’t interested in LTRs, I don't think you understand, we're talking about different things being pursued here. I'm in the same camp as you, for some of the high-value women that I really want, I manage to always pull them for "casual fun", but they lose interest whenever I make it known or hint that I wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 03:49 AM |
| 0 | Why we avoid saying that women also care about attractiveness?Do men pretend to not be visual? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 03:13 AM |
| 6 | If men are always expected to pay, why haven’t women accumulated more savings than men in western societies?Oh, understandable. I did want to say that the study I read accounts for that (it's for first-time homeowners, not just homeowners in general). Women are saving up more money and buying more houses on their own. Also, good point at the end. Some push for equality, but continue to demand higher-earning men than them. It's their right to be honest, you can't stop them from making those demands, but you can make sure you don't feed into their delusions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 03:07 AM |
| 1 | Why do men gaslight women here?OP, I think you're being trolled. Who are the people that denied the slut-shaming here? Who said low-value men don't call you shallow when you admit to caring about looks? Laugh it off, it doesn't matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Through technology we have enabled women to prioritize short term dating hence why they are choosing men who would traditionally wouldn't be a good choice for marriageWhy would a person who can have whatever he wants not lock down the best of the best and have whatever he wants for life? Because that man is sleeping around due to him having options, just like women are? The other guy is right and you're wrong. As a man, making it clear that you're pursuing an LTR genuinely puts most women off. After all, if you were desirable, you'd already have a woman. But seeking casual sex can make you seem more attractive to women. I have irl experience with this, and it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 01:54 AM |
| 3 | If men are always expected to pay, why haven’t women accumulated more savings than men in western societies?What does that have to do with this? The point is that women are better at managing money, not that they're higher-earners. Even in my example, it's still the man bringing in the money. The biggest reason for divorce nowadays is financial, the woman likely isn't satisfied with what the man is providing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 01:51 AM |
| 0 | The people who spread hate just don't understand how the other gender loveThat's not true, it's not by dating gurus, but from the lived experience of the average man and woman. The average woman hates men because she gets pumped and dumped by the attractive men that she wants. The average man hates women because he thought being a nice guy would get him laid, and it only made him more unattractive to women. Neither gender is more inherently evil or virtuous than the other. From my experience, the majority of my male friends who transitioned from nice guys to being des… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Women are instructed to believed "all men bad" by other menOP literally mentioned her nudes being shared or getting SA'd, how are those not stupid situations? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Women are instructed to believed "all men bad" by other menWomen have a superiority complex that they're more emotionally intelligent, more giving, more considerate, and they look down on men. Why do some women say shit like this, when very few women do this? Women will say they were blindsided by X guy who ghosted them after sex, and then you'll look at X, and he's a total bum and a clear womanizer. You will filter out 99% of bad men by simply not sleeping with them until they show commitment, so why do you still struggle so much with finding someone w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 01:19 AM |
| 7 | Plenty of men are shallow unattractive assholes who never wanted to be good men.Women have a superiority complex that they're more emotionally intelligent, more giving, more considerate, and they look down on men. This all comes back down to the 80/20 that OP is denying. Women aren't lying when they say that they they're kinder, more considerate, and more loving than men. The issue is, when women say this shit, it's in reference to some Chad who pumped and dumped them (maybe even ghosted them after sex). The woman will think about how she wanted to give so much love and eff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 12:59 AM |
| 1 | Hypergamy: Cannot treat a woman as equalYes. Fact is, and this applies for most of the redpill, aside from some sociological terms like preselection and mate guarding, you can't really apply scientific theory to relationship phenomena, so lived experience is what confirms the redpill for most men. A lot of guys learn this the hard way. Society/the blue pill tells them to be a nice/kind guy, and then they keep getting stepped on until they start treat women worse and suddenly get what they want. Men learning that women respect them mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 12:49 AM |
| -1 | If men are always expected to pay, why haven’t women accumulated more savings than men in western societies?The average woman is actually better at managing money than the average man is. Hell, I read somewhere that there are more single female homeowners now than male ones in their 30's. In many societies (especially in Asia), women outright take care of all the finances at home, while men simply bring in the money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Hypergamy: Cannot treat a woman as equalIt is based on fact and lived experience for many men. A man treating a woman as an equal turns off many women, maybe most. They want you to be superior in every regard (wealth, status, fitness, height, etc), but say they want you to treat them as an equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 12:37 AM |
| 5 | Q4 people who believe that promiscuity damages a womans capacity to "pair-bond" --why doesn't having generally good life, good family etc. also damage a womans capacity to pair bond?Yes, exactly. I see these promiscuous women everywhere say "What's wrong with what I'm doing? I like sex!", and it's like "No you don't enjoy sex, you enjoy sex with different men". It's not the sex they desire, but the sexual validation they get from attractive men going after them. Like you said, if they were truly high-libido, they would find ONE stud and stick with him, someone who meets their needs. People aren't judging you/slut-shaming you because you like sex, people slut-shame you becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 12:29 AM |
| 5 | Q4 people who believe that promiscuity damages a womans capacity to "pair-bond" --why doesn't having generally good life, good family etc. also damage a womans capacity to pair bond?They do, but for most things, do it enough times and the same activity that was once fun becomes boring. The key part of this is "do it enough times". Someone who has had sex over 1,000 times will find their 1,001th time less stimulating than someone doing it the first time. And this is half the story, it's not just the boredom/lack of stimulation, women will also compare their current partners to previous ones, even though it's unfair to compare someone who is committed to you vs someone who on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: Do you want dating to cost less? Or do you want a traditional woman?How did it feel going between casual "relationships" and then deciding to go monogamous on one woman? What sparked the change? And what do you reckon the percentage/ratio of people with high bodycounts due to trauma/unresolved issues compared to those who just do it for fun and then settle for a committed monogamous relationship once they've "had it out of their system"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/25 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Q4 people who believe that promiscuity damages a womans capacity to "pair-bond" --why doesn't having generally good life, good family etc. also damage a womans capacity to pair bond?Yes, promiscuity damages pair-bonding in both men and women. But some men say it's less for men because men aren't as emotional as women and have an easier time discarding women that they've "earned". Kind of like how in most scenarios, the man finds a woman attractive first, chases her, but the woman only starts liking the man after they have sex the first time. Meanwhile the men legitimately loses interest in the woman once they've had sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 06:12 PM |
| 2 | Q4 people who believe that promiscuity damages a womans capacity to "pair-bond" --why doesn't having generally good life, good family etc. also damage a womans capacity to pair bond?Who calls another grown adult a nerd? Nerd in what sense? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 06:10 PM |
| 6 | Q4 people who believe that promiscuity damages a womans capacity to "pair-bond" --why doesn't having generally good life, good family etc. also damage a womans capacity to pair bond?It's kind of crazy how high bodycount women legitimately can't understand how this simple principle also applies to relationships. For everything in life, the more that you do a pleasurable thing, the less pleasurable it becomes (because of less dopamine generated from the same activity) over time, so you always need to up the ante of whatever you do so that it becomes as pleasurable, or even more, than it first was. Whether it's taking higher-dosage drugs, or getting bored of a certain song and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 06:08 PM |
| 1 | The RP concept of "She's not yours, its just your turn", is completely in line with the ideals BP/ Feminism pushes in societyShe could also look to 'upgrade' to a better LTR. That's a good point, but she can't do this too often, because if she does, she increases her bodycount and then becomes known for not being committal, which ends up making her low-value. A high-value woman doesn't do anything to risk lowering her value, which is why she makes sure only the highest value man can touch her, because she doesn't have too many tries at this. Low-value males will call her delusional, and even make threats she will end … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 05:59 PM |
| – | Red pill ‘truths’ are just excuses to frame hierarchy as biologyDo you even know what the red vs blue pill debate is even about? The blue pill is essentially the "Just be yourself" crowd, the people who insist that women want a nice guy, that they're looking for LTRs, that all men have to do to get a woman is just to be authentic and to have basic grooming, fashion, and self-care routines. It teaches men that respecting and valuing a woman is the way to go. The average man grows up believing these lies, then tries his hand at dating, only to get 0 luck in da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 05:54 PM |
| 17 | Why should women treat you like a Chad ?You hit the nail with the last point. OP hates the fact the betabuxxer isn't pursuing her harder, and uses her history with Chad as proof of that. For a man, either he has to become Chad himself, or the woman he pursues must not treat him differently from Chad. I always tell men to do the former, because the latter requires insane emotionally maturity and self-control from the woman, which very few women have (same goes for men, very few men treat attractive and unattractive women in the same wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 05:43 PM |
| 1 | The RP concept of "She's not yours, its just your turn", is completely in line with the ideals BP/ Feminism pushes in societyNo she can't. What's self-respect here? It's standards. Anything that is passed around for free or almost isn't valuable. The more that a woman demands, the more self-respect she has. If she's okay with a guy pumping and dumping her, then she has no self-respect. The guy needing to be handsome doesn't make it any more respectful for her to let other men use her freely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 05:34 PM |
| – | Q4M: Do you want dating to cost less? Or do you want a traditional woman?Are you really asking why a man would find a woman who slept around with dozens of men less attractive than one who didn't? For men, the sexual history of women who sleeps around is a huge turn-off. Is a man worth less if he sleeps around? I don't dictate or decide what women find attractive, so I'll throw that question right back at you. Is he? Sadly, women find men who sleep around far more attractive, it signals preselection, shows that the man is highly-desirable by other women, and creates … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 05:31 PM |
| – | Q4M: Do you want dating to cost less? Or do you want a traditional woman?Yes that's correct sadly. Fortunately, 80% of women are attractive to most men, so that's a problem very few high-value or would-be high-value women have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 05:28 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Do you want dating to cost less? Or do you want a traditional woman?Honest question, and I don't mean any offense, but why are you like this? Legitimately, nearly all men would prefer if their women had a low bodycount. So why are you okay with that? Is it because you don't have options (not in a position to demand a rarer woman), or would you feel like a hypocrite if you did care because of your own circumstances? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 05:25 PM |
| 1 | A relationship between a man and a woman cannot be equal. The woman holds all the powerSorry for late reply. Do you mean that she’s hot? That she’s submissive? That she cooks and cleans? All of the above? Fertility, youth, beauty, self-respect, emotionally-supportive, and the ability to be a good mother. That's the ideal woman. The bottom line is that women in general don’t need men the way they used to and are often only dragged down by having them in their lives. 100% agree with you, women don't need men like they used to before. If they don’t want to put effort into a woman bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 05:20 PM |
| 1 | What is your age, and what percentage of women that you have met accurately represent your beliefs?A lot? Yes. Most in practice? No. Ironically, as someone who supports FDS for women, and believe women have reasonable standards and expectations of men, this is the ONE and only thing I despise in women. It's how young women are intentionally put off by men seeking long-term relationships. From my own experience, I've had several women punish me and lose attraction to me when I showed them LTR-tier interest, when right before that, they were all over me. They’re looking for young, handsome guys… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?I think most women find very, very few man attractive, whereas most men find a ton of women attractive. I mean you're correct, I think we're both right, but you're practically right, while I'm technically right. I know for a fact that there's at least 1 woman among 4 billion that would find you attractive, but the chances of ever meeting her (if you're below-average or ugly) are extremely slim, but never 0. It's not just that I'm ugly to most girls, I'm also fat, and depressed, and not "alpha", … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 04:58 PM |
| 1 | The RP concept of "She's not yours, its just your turn", is completely in line with the ideals BP/ Feminism pushes in societyNo they won't. The primary thing that makes a woman high-value is self-respect, and no woman with self-respect sleeps around or entertains males that are either low-value or non-committal. She knows her worth, and has high demands before any man can touch her, or even date her. Ironically, a lot of women become like this in their 30's, but by then they've already lost all their worth, so they end up lonely for life because they behave like a high-value woman while being a low-value one (self-res… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 04:52 PM |
| – | Red pill ‘truths’ are just excuses to frame hierarchy as biologyThe longer a man believes in the bluepill and fails from it, the more misogynistic he will become when he eventually accepts the redpill. The bluepill is legitimately dangerous to society because it is breeding an entire generation of men to become resentful of women when advice like "Just be yourself" or "Work on improving yourself, be a kind man, and women will come to you" inevitably fails while men who are the opposite of all that get their pick of the litter with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 04:48 PM |
| – | Men should work harder for womenOnly a millionaire (in terms of networth) can be generous with his money. Any guy being "generous" while not being a high-earner or high-networth quickly ends up broke. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Do you want dating to cost less? Or do you want a traditional woman?You have me down to a T, but how does someone get past this. I've had several friends and my last ex tell me this exact thing, about being too logical and trying to reason through things with a cold calculus, leaving no place for my own emotions. It has paid off for me in everything in life but relationships, I still can't seem to find what I want. I've become what I believe to be a high value man based on my own observations and what women react to. I'm fit (have a training coach), well-groomed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 08:33 AM |
| 1 | Was you actual world view really challenged here?Yes, becoming attractive and desirable is non-negotiable, no matter whether you're pursuing the CC rider or the trad woman. You can reach this status through any number of ways. But I feel like the redpill movement should encourage men to go for the latter. If you become Chad (easy route) and start pumping and dumping Stacey's, then you've become all you've hate and have continued creating the type of women the redpill warns men about. But if you become a high value man and find yourself a trad … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 08:06 AM |
| – | What is your age, and what percentage of women that you have met accurately represent your beliefs?Whoring is a strong word, I'll say 'engaging in hookup culture' instead. my age who are sleeping around with terrible women who are conventionally attractive don’t get the same heat Do women judge these men, or find them more desirable because they can get laid with other attractive women? Preselection is S tier when it comes to boosting a man's attractiveness after all. Ultimately, your issue is men judging you here for hookup culture. Women are free to judge men who do the same thing, but don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 07:41 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: Do you want dating to cost less? Or do you want a traditional woman?Yes, at the end of the day, like I've said several comments ago, I ultimately respect your relationship and believe you have the most compatible one that you could have. You both seem content, so you're out of the game and honestly do not have to listen to anything that I have to say because it doesn't matter to you anymore, you've made it. Gamefying love will not help you find it You've peered directly into my mind with this one. Here's an observation I made years ago, everything in this world … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 07:36 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: Do you want dating to cost less? Or do you want a traditional woman?I don't see how having casual (completely casual) sex would affect pair bonding. Huh, really? You don't understand how sleeping with multiple men can desensitize you to sex and to relationships in general? Do you understand how dopamine and oxytocin work? The more you do something, the less pleasurable it becomes, so you always have to up the ante to get the same amount of dopamine as before. This isn't a theory, it's an observable fact. have not. They have, in ways that you do not understand. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 07:06 AM |
| – | What is your age, and what percentage of women that you have met accurately represent your beliefs?To answer OP's question Women under 25 don't care much about money, they usually just want to have casual sex or relationships. Women between 25 and 30 care a little. Women over 30 care a lot. By definition, most women can't have a high-earning partner, because only a few men can be high-earners. There's nothing wrong with women being gold diggers who seek out successful men with ambition, that is perfectly natural. From the large yet admittedly disproportionate amount of women I know, I’d say a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 06:50 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Do you want dating to cost less? Or do you want a traditional woman?I made it EXPLICITLY clear to every man who I've ever had casual sex with that I did not want to date them. I respect you for this and am even grateful to you for it, many men don't even get this privilege nowadays. Imo, men who are attractive and desirable to women are not turned off by women who have sexual experience. It depends, the attractive and desirable men who want marriage will definitely be turned off by your sexual experience. While the fuckboy types who never became successful and s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 06:25 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Do you want dating to cost less? Or do you want a traditional woman?I don't think having sex every 2-3 months is a "hoe phase," If it's with different men, then it is. I am curious, though, why do you think the red pill is centered around women like me? Because you're the average woman, and the average man was out here trying to either have a relationship with you or marry you, not knowing you care more about satisfying your own urges, desires, and needs, than the standards he has set upon you (that you want a LTR). It's pretty common, women seek out highly-attr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 05:45 AM |
| 1 | A relationship between a man and a woman cannot be equal. The woman holds all the powerEverything you wrote is 100% correct, but be fair here, the average woman a man from an older generation would do all these things for would be considered a top-tier woman today. Can't expect the average male to put in as much effort into the average woman when the males get less out of it today than they did decades ago. Also, how much of this is due to men being afraid of being seen as creeps for initiating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 05:12 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Do you want dating to cost less? Or do you want a traditional woman?Why do you say "I'm a woman who loves sex" and not "I'm a woman who loves casual sex with different men"? Plenty of trad women love sex too, sex with their LTR/husband that is. When I was single, I had casual sex simply because I was horny and wanted to have sex. I don't have a problem with this. You're living the dream most men wish they could have. Most men would be hypocrites to judge you for this. I have too much self-respect to settle for a man who is not perfect for me. Wait, hold on. Your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 05:05 AM |
| 0 | Does "don't shame men for their preferences" apply to men who want to marry porn stars?It doesn't really matter because both genders do this equally. They seek to maintain their demands at all costs, whether it's by invoking the tolerance of preferences from the other gender, or the shaming of other people from their gender who don't adhere to their preferences. Nobody really wants members of their gender to accept behavior they deem unacceptable from the other gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 03:50 AM |
| -1 | Q4M: Do you want dating to cost less? Or do you want a traditional woman?Many of the women that the red pill doesn't apply to. A woman who only seeks out a LTR, who doesn't let random men use her body freely without commitment from them, and who has high self-respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 03:39 AM |
| 3 | Does "don't shame men for their preferences" apply to men who want to marry porn stars?Do people care about enforcing the tolerance of preferences when it comes from their own gender? No, this applies to both men and women. A lot of women for example will demand that you respect their preference (he has to be rich, 6ft, fit, handsome, etc), but then whine about pretty women dating ugly men (anybody seen that Billie Eilish clip?) This doesn't just apply to men, and it's less about shaming preferences and more about enforcing your gender's demands from the other gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 03:35 AM |
| -2 | Q4M: Do you want dating to cost less? Or do you want a traditional woman?A beautiful woman is still a beautiful woman to a man, he doesn't care about the beauty routine behind it. I agree with you about how makeup makes a radical change for many women, but that's not the point. It's not all just looks either, she also needs to have self-respect. A beautiful woman who sleeps around will be less sought after by high value men willing to commit than a mid woman who doesn't. Nothing wrong with Ksenia demanding high-value behavior from men if she herself is a high-value w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 03:27 AM |
| 3 | Was you actual world view really challenged here?I agree with everything you've said except "unrealistic expectations". The average male becomes redpilled while seeking out an average female, that's not unrealistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 03:21 AM |
| 1 | Was you actual world view really challenged here?The red pill isn't a truth that applies to all women, but it does apply to most women. The question now is, what comes after? Does the average male try to become like the asshole Chad to sleep with as many women as possible, or does he self-improve and try to seek out a good trad woman with a low bodycount to be worthy of her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 03:14 AM |
| -2 | Q4M: Do you want dating to cost less? Or do you want a traditional woman?There's no such thing as a "wanting a traditional woman", you either get with the program of how women behave today or you get left behind. I mean yes, these women are high value, highly sought after, and rare, but they still exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 03:03 AM |
| -9 | Q4M: Do you want dating to cost less? Or do you want a traditional woman?There's no such thing as a "gold digger mentality". Women seeking men with status and wealth is as inherently biological as men seeking young and fertile women. Ksenia makes perfect sense here, she seeks out high value men (trad men), but dislikes Western women who she sees as not only being low value women, but also as encouraging low value male behavior (splitting the bill). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 03:01 AM |
| 2 | The RP concept of "She's not yours, its just your turn", is completely in line with the ideals BP/ Feminism pushes in societyI mixed up your comment with someone else's, it's not that serious lil bro. There are dozens of dudes who've written the point I've addressed in my post right below yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 02:47 AM |
| 3 | Men should work harder for womenIt's so easy to neutralize redpill vs bluepill arguments by just saying "you can be both right simultaneously". Based and purple-pilled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 02:36 AM |
| – | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵Raise men to be passive This here is probably the biggest culprit for the gender wars. Men when growing up are taught "Be kind and you'll have a good woman" by women, and then up getting constantly rejected while seeing asshole males get all the women they want. All men need the redpill, but all men also need a strong moral code as too, because I see way too many good men try to be like those asshole males just to get laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 02:32 AM |
| 1 | The RP concept of "She's not yours, its just your turn", is completely in line with the ideals BP/ Feminism pushes in societyIt's a maximalist position, which while not being an objective truth, does apply to most women nowadays in their 20's, though not all. How else would you have framed it while keeping at as potent to deter men from over-pursuing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 02:17 AM |
| 5 | The RP concept of "She's not yours, its just your turn", is completely in line with the ideals BP/ Feminism pushes in societyThat's because men don't care about how something is said or framed, they only care about the essence of what is said. Women however do care about how something said, and the same message could have a 180 reaction from a woman depending on how it's said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 02:14 AM |
| 8 | The RP concept of "She's not yours, its just your turn", is completely in line with the ideals BP/ Feminism pushes in societyit portrays men as only wanting sex No it doesn't. This expression is specifically said to men who want to commit to a woman, but are encouraged not to by other men because she's too promiscuous to commit to you. So the first no, the other 2 yes. The expression "She's not yours, it's just your turn" doesn't apply to all women, but it does apply to most imo (in their 20's at least). High-value women don't play that game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 02:11 AM |
| 8 | Men should work harder for womenWhat's the issue with both of your statements? Women consider men that are high-earners and willing to commit to be high value men. Men consider women that are young, beautiful, and with a low bodycount to be high value women. The only problem here is when a low-value woman demands a high-value man, and when a low-value man demands a high-value woman. Only aim for people in your league folks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 02:00 AM |
| 2 | Men should work harder for womenYep, the same applies to marriage as well. See so many relationships blow up because the woman kept pushing the guy to marry when he doesn't want to. OP's only problem is that they gendered their post, when it should be genderless. Both men and women need to put in the work to get what they want. Going on the internet and complaining about how women only go for assholes, or how men keep using you for sex only and refuse to commit won't change anything in the real world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 01:57 AM |
| 1 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredSo men don’t respect women who actually foolishly believe that they are good men… Correct, and why would they? They know you weren't born yesterday, and that they're not so special, so you likely did the same exact thing with countless other men previously. If he got you so easily while just being another guy, then he knows you have low self-respect and a high bodycount. and those same men apparently do respect women who are jaded and understand that they are actually bad men? Yes. They might ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 01:48 AM |
| 1 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?We're both guys, I think you've been in a situation where one of your friends has told you he finds a chick hot that you find completely ugly. Women are the same, but to a much lesser degree. If you truly think that you're so ugly that not one woman among 4 billion would find you attractive, then you're just handicapping yourself with a lie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Why are you on this subreddit?Which ones? Pussy behavior from them lol. I'm not aware of any manosphere sub with a blanket ban on all women, but know a few women subs that do ban all men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Shifting preferences is the root cause of bitterness and trpLol, red pill men are not giving any woman a good life in the long term. Perhaps. They could meet a clean-cut 24-year-old virgin and they’ll still call her a turbo slut then This has literally never ever happened in human history. I understand why you're making this point, you kind of wish that even virgins would get called sluts too to make it seem like they saved themselves up for nothing, but that's not true. I'm telling you, men feel physical repulsion when a woman tells them their promiscuo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredI'm never speaking for all men, but I'm always speaking for most men. Same as for women, only most. I'm sorry to tell you, but most men judge you based on your sexual history. It severely reduces your relationship market value to the majority of men. It's a biological thing, men get an ick when women tell them about their promiscuous past in the same way women get an ick when men cry in front of them, something innate makes you feel disgust. The few men who won't judge you for this are either lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?Brother, you remember that guy from the "Being ugly : My Experience" video? youtube.com/watch?v=1n5nOEJtrYA He actually found someone and is in a relationship right now. Among his 25 million viewers, there was actually one woman who found him attractive enough date. Of course, by the way, I'm excluding people with severe injuries and disabilities. I don't think that US veteran who had his face melted off would ever find a woman that finds him attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 12:13 AM |
| 2 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredYeah that's not true, a man who's actually in love with a woman will wait for her for months or even years (I've seen it happen). What really bothers men is when a woman who has let dozens of guys sleep with her in one-night stands/on first dates tries to pull this shit off with them, because then it becomes an insult to the man (her telling him he's not attractive enough and has to put in the work for him to get what many other men got for free). The man loses interest because he already sees t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/25 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Why do women do this?Yep they do, but the guy is only a victim if he wanted more too. Male victims of rebound relationships can attest to that. Otherwise both sides used each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 11:23 PM |
| -2 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredThere are many female-only bars and clubs in most major cities, why not go there? I'm a guy, let's say my hobby could only be done in one place, but that I had a significant chance of being raped there, do you think I'd keep that hobby? Fuck no, being raped sounds terrifying, I'd give up any of my hobbies to not be raped, whether it's painting or gaming. I find it hard to understand how you love clubbing so much that you will literally risk rape to do it, why? You can dance and spend time with f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 11:21 PM |
| 4 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredAre you seriously comparing a school to a club/bar? Do you get your education at a club? It's hard to empathize with you not being able to go to a club since it's what most men do anyway. Saying "Oh no, I can't go to the bar, it's terrible!" will be answered with "Huh, it is?" by most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?Per PPD usual, the attractive men are the ones using women for sex. And the unattractive men never use women for sex. Where did I say otherwise? Of course both do. But the unattractive man has to put in a LOT of work to be able to do that. It's funny because if we say that there are 4 unattractive men for every 1 attractive guy, we still end up with attractive men doing more of the sleeping around. Not everyone wants to get married. Married no, but most women, on paper, want a committed relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?Your flair says Promiscuous Woman, so of course you're happy with this arrangement. But a lot of women want monogamous relationships, and even marriages. They seek out the best mates, only to find that the men they want (conventionally attractive men) only use them as human fleshlights. So this current status quo is harming both the women who get used for sex only, and the men who don't get any at all. If women could not be so obsessed with a few select attractive men, then we wouldn't have this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Why do women do this?No she didn't. FWB women don't complain after sex, it's always the women who wanted more than sex (a relationship) that do (the women OP is referencing). Women could easily bypass OP's problem by simply waiting for commitment before sex. But that is difficult in some cases and requires a lot of biological restraint and emotional maturity, which many women don't have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 10:34 PM |
| 2 | Why are women more likely than men to want to date and marry for convenience and confort and safety rather than for love?Again, why assume that the next woman would be so much better than the last that he’d wife her up? Ignorance. He wants to get married and has met a woman who hasn't displayed any behavior that would not make him not want to marry her (yet). Why assume that woman is so much better or is really the one he wants to marry. Once again, ignorance. He wants to get married, and doesn't see any red flags stopping him from not doing it, so he goes ahead. For women, the men they want to marry are the men w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 10:30 PM |
| 2 | Why are women more likely than men to want to date and marry for convenience and confort and safety rather than for love?40 year old virgin? Never met one, but tons of my friends are men in their 40's and after who aren't married, and nobody pressures them into that. The opposite, a lot of the hate I see against them is out of jealousy (heard coworkers talk shit about an unmarried coworker who could go on extended work trips because they don't have kids). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 10:22 PM |
| 2 | Why do women do this?You have two types of women, women who can control their biology, and women who can't. Some women will see a terrible guy obviously trying to only have sex with them, but because their vagina is tingling, and they think they can change his mind, she gives in to that momentary pleasure despite her better judgement. She got used for sex and the guy leaves, but instead of taking responsibility for her own actions, she will instead put the blame on the man, and in some cases, on all men in general. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 10:18 PM |
| 3 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?throughout our 20s, and even still confirmed in our 30s/40s. That settles it lol, modern dynamics are completely different from what existed even 20 years ago. If we were having this argument in the 1980's, I'd agree with you. Things are different now, the average woman actually has access to conventionally attractive men (who will only use her for sex), and so they don't need to look for that "quirky ugly that is kinda attractive" anymore (1% of men maybe), they can more easily find conventiona… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 10:09 PM |
| 4 | Why are women more likely than men to want to date and marry for convenience and confort and safety rather than for love?Men are the gatekeepers of marriage, but women are the gatekeepers of dating/relationships. For a man, it's pretty scary to throw yourself in the dating market, so even though you're in a relationship with a woman you won't marry, you can't jump out unless you're confident you can catch something quickly. Once a man is back in a relationship with a woman he can picture himself marrying, he will do it very quickly. He only delayed it in the first place because he didn't want to marry the woman he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 09:59 PM |
| 2 | Why are women more likely than men to want to date and marry for convenience and confort and safety rather than for love?This here is the origin story of my "both genders suck-pill" flair. Better to be a good influence to these friends from close than to cut them off completely (only done if they're beyond redemption). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 09:55 PM |
| 1 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?What you're suggesting implies there aren't women who are doing the same thing to some men Some definitely are, but women don't sleep with too many men at the same time. Most get feelings after sleeping with a guy once so it's harder for women to have multiple male partners than it is for the opposite (assuming the guy is capable of having multiple partners). Do you have anything more concrete to suggest women are the ones more likely to view situationships as a relationship than men are? I've n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 09:48 PM |
| 3 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?Incorrect. My friends and I don't overlap. We never have. We don't even find the same celebrities attractive. Why not do it and confirm it once for all? I feel like from your PoV, you're thinking to yourself "Oh my friend finds X celebrity attractive, but I find him ugly", so you feel like there's no overlap, but do an actual test case study to see. This is the most made up thing I've ever heard. Hold on, how old are you? I was disagreeing with another woman until I found out she was 53. The dyn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 09:43 PM |
| 2 | Why are women more likely than men to want to date and marry for convenience and confort and safety rather than for love?Yeah it's a combination of both. I just read your "proximity theory of marriage" thing as meaning that a man simply marries a woman who was "good enough" just because he was ready for marriage at the time that he met her. Which in hindsight is true. But I think this is done by both sexes. Like men stay in relationships with women they don't plan on marrying, and once they break up with them, they quickly marry any woman who's "good enough" for him. Women likewise reach a specific point where the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 09:37 PM |
| 2 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?If you're going to remain in denial in the face of overwhelming facts and evidence, then why not simply do this test yourself with your friends? It would be very easy, either find pictures of a couple dozen or 100 men (you can even ask AI to generate fake pictures for you), and ask some of your female friends to categorize each man as either attractive or not attractive (allow a maximum of 20% attractive votes), and calculate the overlap. You will find that you and all your friends have a majori… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 09:31 PM |
| 2 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?What you're suggesting would mean Gen Z men cheat more than previous generations, Nope, not cheat, because cheating implies you're in a relationship. What I'm saying is that many of the top 20% of Gen Z (and Millennial) males literally have harems where they're sleeping around with multiple women without being in a committed relationship with any of them. I'm sure you've seen all the reels and tiktoks of women whining about how their situationship is refusing to "soft/hard launch them" (aka make… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 09:19 PM |
| 5 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredBy stranger, do you mean a-guy-at-a-party-or-club-or-bar stranger, or an alleyway stranger? The overwhelming majority of rapes committed against women are by men they already knew, or knew about previously. Only a minority are by total strangers they met for the first time in the same day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 09:08 PM |
| 3 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredI respect you so much for that, you and all FDS women. I wish more women went down this route earlier in life. Men do not respect the women they hookup with or sexualize early-on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Why are women more likely than men to want to date and marry for convenience and confort and safety rather than for love?Yes, that's correct. Since men don't have that pressure, they have the privilege of only going into marriage when they feel like it. Women don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 08:59 PM |
| 5 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?Why come up with a crazy explanation like the female gender is far more likely to be homosexual than the male one, when we're already bombarded with the answer to that question? Aren't all the countless Tiktoks of women whining about their situationship not revealing enough? Or all those "Are we dating the same guy?" groups? How many guys do you see complaining about their situationship? How many guys are even in the position to have a situationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 08:57 PM |
| 2 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredYep, hence why I said you could easily get rid of the majority of the bad sexual attention that most women get. But sometimes just telling women to not go to clubs or bars pisses them off, even though it's something most men don't do anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Shifting preferences is the root cause of bitterness and trpThey're talking about the women who've "had it out of their system before settling down", this could be a woman of any age (either 21 or 40). Hell, some Gen Z women (younger than than 28) who've done this are called retired bops by Gen Z men. They're bitter because they essentially end up giving a good life to a woman who has had the fun that they've always dreamed of. She got her cake and ate it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 08:47 PM |
| 17 | Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desiredYeah this is one of those thoughts that show a complete lack of perspective and self-awareness, this is in the same spirit as the women who say "I'd rather be friendzoned than fuckzoned". And yet those same women will get angry at you when you tell them to not sleep with a man until he shows commitment. They know the solution to their "problem", but refuse to take it because they know the alternative is much worse. At the end of the day OP, you will always choose bad sexual attention over no sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 08:34 PM |
| 4 | Why are women more likely than men to want to date and marry for convenience and confort and safety rather than for love?I see your point, yes that does happen a lot. However, this happens not because of what you think (proximity theory of marriage), but because a lot of men are willing to remain in relationships with women who they wouldn't marry. just because of the convenience or safety of relationships. Then they find a woman that they are more attracted to and would actually be willing to marry and seal the deal. Women don't do this because they aren't the gatekeepers of marriage, men are. It's very hard for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 08:17 PM |
| 3 | Why are women more likely than men to want to date and marry for convenience and confort and safety rather than for love?Men say the opposite lol, that most women only want to marry when they're ready to "settle down" with a stable male provider in their late 20's, and are done with their hoe phase/hookups. Objectively, your version is wrong, because men are rarely pressured into marriage while women often are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 07:58 PM |
| 0 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?That explains it, in my other comment I specifically say "the rise of situationships and FWBs recently". In the past, most women were restricted to only the few males in their town or neighborhood, and they were somewhat forced to settle for 1 man they didn't always find attractive, but accepted because there wasn't any better around. Nowadays it's completely different. The internet and proxies (social media, dating apps, etc) has made it extremely easy for women to have access to hundreds of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 07:51 PM |
| 7 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?We likely have different definitions of low body counts. Usually when this is said, it's implied to be 1-3. I've had a woman tell me her bodycount of 9 is low because it's still single-digits. What do you consider low? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 07:26 PM |
| 23 | Let's be honest: men also have different rules for the women they're attracted to.Yep. The majority of things men complain about when it comes to women are things that us men do as well (just to a smaller degree). Most men also treat women like shit depending on how attractive they are, and let cute women get away with shit they wouldn't tolerate from unattractive women. Can't be surprised when women do the same. The only difference though is that men find a larger percentage of the opposite sex attractive than woman do, and since men are therefore more often victims to this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 07:22 PM |
| 2 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?Correct, the difference between 0 interest and low interest is not having a chance at all with the former. Most men have low interest, which means they have a chance, albeit a small one, and they have to go through insane hoops to make it work. There is some overlap This is where our point of disagreement lies. We both acknowledge that if you show women pictures of 100 men, the majority of women will only find around 20 of those men attractive. You however seem to think this overlap is low, when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 07:15 PM |
| 6 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?Dating app and male bodycount stats. For the vast majority of men (let's say under 35), either they have a very small bodycount (0-5), or a very large one (over 20). It's really only a few select men that are pulling most women. What I say is so true that we've now reverted back to tribal polygamy, with some of those top 20% of men having multiple female partners (the explosion of situationships and FWB's recently). There's a stat saying that only 36% of Gen Z males are in a relationship while o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 06:49 PM |
| 2 | Women want to be sexy, but hate the men who sexualize themIs that more about seeking external validation, or trying to fit in the group? Those are 2 different concepts. Some men try to not dress up because they feel like it would push them out their friend group, not necessarily because the others think they're a douchebag, but just because they think he's different. Women do the same thing, but the seeking external validation part is different from what you're discussing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 06:39 PM |
| 7 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?So now you're claiming that only 5% of profiles are "objectively" decent? If I take the pictures of a male model (even bad ones like toilet selfies) and give him a shitty profile with tons of mysoginistic quotes in it, how many matches do you reckon this male model would get compared to an average looking guy with a great profile (good pictures, quotes, and hobbies)? Care to answer that in good faith? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 06:34 PM |
| 5 | Why are you on this subreddit?What do you mean? Men are banned from posting on femcel communities like FDS, but women aren't banned from posting on redpill spaces (most don't at least). This sub is great because it lets people from both of those communities post freely with no bias in either direction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 06:30 PM |
| 5 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?Nobody says 0 interest, they say low interest, which is objectively true. The overwhelming majority of women mostly overlap in the 20% of men they find attractive. If a woman finds 20 men attractive, only maybe less than 5 of those aren't considered conventionally attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 06:24 PM |
| 6 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?Then why is it on apps the same 5-10% of men always get over 80% of matches? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 06:22 PM |
| 14 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?There's rarely overlap with another woman. This is a blatant lie. Every time this has been put to the test (whether intentionally or by looking at statistics), the vast majority of women are always mostly interested in the same 20% of men. There are some differences, some women prefer some more masculine men, other more feminine, some skinny, other with a dadbod, but for the most part, majority overlap. This is another "I'm different from the other girls!!!" trope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 06:22 PM |
| 5 | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?This is why exposuremaxxing is S tier, probably even more potent than looksmaxxing. No matter how ugly you are as a guy, there's at the very least a handful of women in the world that find your specific look and personality attractive. The real challenge is finding those women, which is hard because many women do not make it clear if they find you attractive or not, and some will intentionally try to make you think they don't find you attractive (while they do) just to get you to chase them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/25 06:14 PM |
| 1 | I don’t think a women needs a expensive wedding ring even for $500Buy her an expensive ring if she's a traditional woman. Don't if she isn't. That's all it comes down to. If she's not traditional woman but expects you to buy her one, then she's going to abuse the hell out of you (she'll expect you to conform to gender norms when they benefit her, while she skips out on her own obligations to you). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/25 01:53 AM |
| 14 | I don’t think a women needs a expensive wedding ring even for $500Anybody else see these posts as the counter-equivalent of women saying they do too much for men in marriages (they describe themselves as "bangmaids" for their husbands)? OP, you're free to feel this way, but you should likewise have the expectation that your wife will reflect your level of commitment to her in other areas of your lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/25 01:43 AM |
| – | Men are sitting on two chairs, speaking for women and themselvesDifferent type of lies. Men lie to you individually, to get in your pants. Women lie to you collectively, to virtue-signal. Which is worse is up for you to decide, but if you're someone trying to understand the opposite gender, then woman have it far better than men, because when a man describes men as a whole, he will be truthful with you. Women won't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/25 12:02 AM |
| – | Men are sitting on two chairs, speaking for women and themselvesWhat are you talking about specifically here? A lot of incels/redpillers are mad at women because they believe they've been fooled by all the women who've said shit like "just be a nice guy/kind man, and you'll get a good woman", when in reality these men have observed the trashiest men acquire women with ease, so they feel like they've been intentionally lied to by women. In a lot of cases, your own description of your experiences doesn't align with your history/what's really going on in your l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/25 11:58 PM |
| – | Men are sitting on two chairs, speaking for women and themselvesThey love to "other women!" so much. Which is fascinating because this type of thing rarely happens with men, like if you see a woman say "ugh men are pervs, they only want to date bimbos!", you won't see many men respond "Other men wouldn't mind dating a non-bimbo like you!", like nah, the guy would say "I would date a girl who isn't a bimbo, I'm an example proving you wrong!". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/25 11:54 PM |
| 11 | If marriage benefits men more than women, why are women always the ones pressuring their partner into marriage?Who's "society" here? If I say men, then you should be able to brush it off with "Women don't care what men think". Is it other women pressuring you into marriage? Why not denounce them in specific? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/25 11:34 PM |
| 1 | You're not an "average" guy if you struggle in datingDate? Yes. Marry? No. Lots of top-tier men pump and dump these average women, which is why average women almost always have way higher bodycounts than the top 20% of women do. Then both men and women hit their 30's, and the average 30's woman whines about how the average 30's man is going for younger women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/25 09:59 PM |
| 2 | I'd rather be a man finding a girlfriend than a woman finding a boyfriend.You make a good point, for anybody who prioritizes agency, being a man is definitely better. What makes you wrong though is that as a woman, you can easily approach a man and have a high percentage of success, but for most men women will never come to you no matter what you do. You have the option to have the advantage of the opposite gender, men don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/25 09:21 PM |
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