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1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry In your retarded leap of logic, what was done as a preventive method to prevent the accident? Birth control is a measure to prevent pregnancy.. meaning both parties BOTH are agreeing to not wanting to be parents. After that agreement is made, one cannot force the other to become one. There is no third party or "child" unless the woman decides to create one.. The woman can choose to force a man to be held liable for an action he didn't agree to. Go finance a car, your agreed payment is 250 a mont…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 12:54 AM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry I refuse to even engage with you after this. If you can't conceptualize that an agreement to PREVENT conception, is an agreement to absolve of fault. I guess you've never heard of a liability waiver? Just because someone engages in an action that may produce an outcome, that does not that party liable if the outcome occurs. If there is a preexisting agreement of. Which birth control is. Point to LITERALLY ANY other facet of law which functions in the manner you describe? You can't. Two parties a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 12:45 AM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry Well, since your previous statement said "in some places in the US". Figured you did care. Regardless, I do live in the US OP probably does also. I believe this is a platform developed and based in the US.. so let's not like act like a snobby twit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 12:39 AM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry Listen, there is a fincial abortion. It is a contractual agreement on a future event.. ALL contracts occur before the event they wish to moderate. Birth control by nature of what it is.. A method to prevent birth, is informed consent that neither party wants a child. How can you possibly believe that consenting to sex where both parties are actively trying to PREVENT conception. means one party has to be responsible if conception occurs and the other party decides they want it.. If you lend me y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/24 10:40 PM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry It's not just in some parts of the US. It's law everywhere Federal safehaven law. Since I'm in the US, idc about laws of other countries, I can only enact change where I live.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/24 10:31 PM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry BTW mothers can absolutely refuse to financially support a child after it is born.. They can place it for adoption, leave it at a hospital, relinquish it to police or fire.. no questions asked. Father's paternal rights are given by the mother, if she decided to name him on the birth certificate. If she chooses not to there are 0 barriers to her just giving up the kid at birth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 08:15 PM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry A fincial abortion occurs before a child needs support and allows all parties to make an informed decision, simple as that. The logic works, because the fincial abortion occurs when there is no child. Just a fetus. Having sex while using birth control is informed consent that neither party wants to be a parent, it is not the liability of one party to support the outcome of another's choice to break that compact.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 08:12 PM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry And when she let me leave my sperm there with the informed agreement that no baby will result from it.. How the hell do I bare any responsibility for it? If two boxers enter a ring for a fight can one of then sue the other after the fight for injured injuries? The fact that BIRTH CONTROL is being used means neither party wants a child as a result, sex does not equal consent to parenthood. One party shouldn't be punished because the other changes their mind.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 08:09 PM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry Your statement is untrue. A woman is in complete control of who goes on the birth certificate for the father. She can choose to not add a father at all. Only in cases of marriage does a father have any presumed parental rights. She can give a child up as soon as it is born. Since she is responsible for granting a "father" rights by adding him to a birth certificate. So, yeah the option is already there for women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 06:49 AM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry Tldr on that last one.. Are you suggesting by being in a situation where something may occur, you are responsible for said action occurring? Please think of how slippery that slope is. She was in a room with 5 guys.. She walked down that alley, ect. Just because something is a possible outcome does not mean it should be accepted despite one parties lack of Informed consent. Sex is not informed consent when it comes to parentage, hence birth control.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 06:32 AM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry Your statements on sex being "fluid" doesn't make it any less contractual. You can revoke a contract if the terms are broken, just like you can stop sex. The abolishing of marriage places more of the burden on the tax payer you wish to protect. Children from successful marriages contribute the most to said soceity. They have the best outcomes and pay the most taxes. If you use your logic when applied to when people change their mind, we have no soceity. Your post is pretty heavily laden with con…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 06:19 AM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry I'm going to go at your edit first.. A woman already can financially abort a child. She can give the kid up the second she pushes it out, she can also drop it off no questions asked at a police station or fire department.. Men have 0 options to determine their ability to not be a parent. That's the crux of the argument. Food stamp, EBT, section 8 and Medicaid are all systems that are heavily utilized by single mothers, many of whom thought the fathers would stick around to help. Financial aborti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 06:07 AM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry I never mentioned relationships, but they can indeed be contractual.. hence marriage. The act of sex is contractual by nature. It's an agreement between two people, there are things you are allowed to do and not to do, which are negotiated and agreed upon... If birth control is involved then the outcome desired is to not convince a child. What's hard to understand about that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 05:59 AM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry BTW, we pay for shit others do every damn day. That's the basis for soceity. I pay for homeless shelters, women's shelters, EBT, cash benefits, section 8, public schools, school lunches, drug treatment programs, medicare, medicaid.. The list goes on and on. You're making a moot point tbh. The social safety net is there to help people in need, doesn't matter if they are irresponsible or not. If men can op out (within an acceptable timeframe during a pregnancy) maybe people as a whole will stop pr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 05:51 AM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry You're not getting what I'm saying at all, because you are not being an open and empathetic being. You are absolutely correct that the man could use a condom.. But if the agreement is NEITHER of us what a child, hence the woman being on BC to begin with.. the expectation is that if a pregnancy were to occur it would be terminated. Changing terms just because something unintended occurred is not how contracts work. If we agree on something, we agree on it plain and simple. Consent to sex in no wa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 05:42 AM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry To say a man can impregnate multiple women is a ridiculous answer to my statement. That is not how laws work or reality in general. If a man is out there knocking up multiple women... who's really at fault? Women as a whole hold the keys to sexual access They decide who has sex with them. If you are requesting men "take responsibility" the onus should also be on women. If I agree to a sexual exchange where my partner says she is on the pill.. it is assumed (correctly) that neither of us wants a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 05:29 AM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry So, it seems to me you believe men are just out there busting in women with no cares.. Trust me that's not what's really happening. A woman saying the words I'm pregnant are scary AF, if it's unplanned.. Every wonder why? Contraception is usually spoken about before sex, if a party is willing to risk STDs that's a personal choice. Real talk though.. if I have a conversation with a woman and she tells me she is using the pill, and doesn't want me to use a condom. I should be held liable if she li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 05:16 AM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry Whole point is she has 9mths to make the decision to have the child, he has 0 say in if he wants to. Sex does not equal consent to having a child, if it did contraceptives would be illegal (Griswold v Conn). There are cases where contraceptives are spoken about before sex occurs. If a woman lies about being on the pill for instance.. Why should a man be liable for the outcome? Is this the single area of law we are comfortable with coercion? If a man goes into a sexual encounter with a woman who …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 05:06 AM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry So the women has 0 blame here oml.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 11:37 PM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry So.. with 18 million forms of birth control for women this falls on guys who have 2 non abstinence options.. lol fun times where in when logic has to be starched so thin to escape personal liability.. Idk maybe women should be on BC if they don't want to get pregnant?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 11:35 PM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry So.. shouldn't she be also? Are we going to continue to treat women like infants? If she's having sex she is just as responsible. If she can't or doesn't want a child she can end the journey to parenthood.. If he doesn't want to be a parent he has no choice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 11:32 PM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry I think what you're missing is that a financial abortion occurs before a child exists.. The child exists at birth correct? If a child becomes a child only when mom decides to keep it.. Abortion logic is completely arbitrary. Both sexes should be able to opt out of BECOMING parents. If not then equality is just a buzz word for supremacy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 11:25 PM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry You do understand that how much I choose to work, or If I choose to not have a job at all is a huge part of bodily autonomy? Money generally comes from the exchange of time using your body to preform a job.. let's not act like it doesn't. Paying 25%+ of your labor (for 18+ years) to support a child you did not want is a form of indentured servitude. If you choose not to pay, you face imprisonment. If she chooses not to be a parent, she can. Men have no choice beyond not having sex.. We are expec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 11:21 PM