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Question for BluePillOpticalEpilepsy/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:59 PM
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Question For WomenOpticalEpilepsy/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 07:28 PM
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Question For WomenOpticalEpilepsy/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:05 AM
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Question For WomenOpticalEpilepsy/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:28 PM
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Question for BluePillOpticalEpilepsy/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 06:24 PM
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DiscussionOpticalEpilepsy/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:21 AM
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Question For WomenOpticalEpilepsy/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:03 AM
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Question For WomenOpticalEpilepsy/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:49 AM
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Question For WomenOpticalEpilepsy/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:24 PM
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Question For WomenOpticalEpilepsy/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:18 AM
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Question For WomenOpticalEpilepsy/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:57 AM
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DiscussionOpticalEpilepsy/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:21 PM
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Question For WomenOpticalEpilepsy/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:34 PM
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Question For MenOpticalEpilepsy/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 08:31 PM
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CMVOpticalEpilepsy/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 10:23 AM
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Rule 6 in this sub is no incels which is probably the least enforced rule
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:19 PM
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Apparently rule 6 men think they should have the right to punish women for not being masturbation tools and then have the nerve to claim that belief has nothing to do with why no women want them. It's always mUh lOoKs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:12 AM
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I'd say the nothing better to do but chastise annonymous women online for not being masturbation tools is a bigger turn off than the incel speak itself
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:10 AM
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Standards aren’t too high or unrealistic if one can consistently attract people they seek I disagree because they still aren't too high or unrealistic if it results in them never finding a romantic partner or sex. If they would rather do nothing than do something with somebody imperfect, that is totally valid decision. Women shouldn't be expected to perform as masturbation tools for men that "need sex". Women shouldn't let the rule 6 men guilt trip women or intimidate women by threatening to ret…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:08 AM
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But it's ok if it's somewhere you can leave immediately if he's bad? Having to leave a place you want to be should be too unreasonable for the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:16 PM
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I would argue he's just as liable to be bad or good if you meet him at a social place vs a non social place. It's not like people in non social places like the grocery store are bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:10 PM
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Idk if by warm you mean what he says to start the conversation where y'all are and why y'all are there or both My point is I think men women may meet through a cold approach are just as random as men women may meet through any other in person situation. Situations are a very poor predictor for how good/bad someone in that situation to a point where he's just as liable to be bad as he would be via a cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:06 PM
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What in person alternative is there? It's not like anywhere near most couples meet online.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:58 PM
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And by cold approach, I mean coming up to me and telling me you think I'm attractive or something Any form of a man initiating an interaction with a woman he's romantically interested in can be characterized as this. Almost every relationship and marriage can be characterized as started by a cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:54 PM
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Seeing how proponents of cold approach always dodge the question when someone asks what a normal success rate is it suggests cold approach is futile to a point that other means of meeting women are better
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:57 PM
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Bad is often colloquially used to mean ineffective not neccesarily malicious. Men that are too shy are almost always very ineffective at dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:47 PM
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Men aren't always innocuously off putting. Some types of off putting like being pedantic and making everything an argument are due to a bad personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:02 PM
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At least in this sub it's much more often horrible personality than not. Trying to gaslight away the varying dating success among short and/or ugly men using snarky condescending dissmisive one liners is obnoxious and explains why they don't have any platonic friends let alone dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:23 PM
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It looks like that because most of the struggling men on here are rule 6 men that demonstrate horrible personalities by condescendingly autodismissing any possibility of them doing romantic and sexual things with women, pretending people say things they obviously didn't say to make it sound wrong, and have horrible beliefs like women don't understand their alleged interest in non physical appearance is just physical appearance again The good men that just don't market themselves well find better…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:19 PM
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No it's not a mythical world it's the real world where short men do romantic and sexual things with women. The mythical world is the one you live in where it's hopeless for short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:12 PM
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"Approach" is used too ambiguously in this sub making for the perfect motte and bailey. There's a big difference between talking to girls you can expect to coincidentally bump into over and over again through friends or hobbies vs cold approaching at a grocery store or walking down the street. It's all technically "approaching" but the latter is much more futile and socially unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:04 AM
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They are like fat people that say pizza and pie don't make me fat it's my metabolism because they would rather pizza and pie than skinny and can't victim away criticism if they own their pizza and pie over skinny
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:51 AM
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Yeah we will just characterize it as unjustifiable retaliation against speaking facts
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:55 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:49 AM
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Cold approach is frequently getting a five card hand but needing a straight flush to win. Social circle is much less commonly getting a five card hand unless you are in a social circle where you meet new women frequently but only needing a straight to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:48 AM
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Glad you agree and don't try to negate reality like a flat earther
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:46 AM
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For the win are the short guys that do romantic and sexual things with women because they never dismissed it as hopeless
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:46 AM
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Short men that do romantic and sexual things with women are as ubiquitous as grass and air
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:03 AM
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Harass and denigrate them online
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:02 AM
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struggling males could date single moms, fat women, older women, no one has absolutely zero options But that doesn't cause society to make women select the men that believe they should be selected by those women as those men currently are
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:31 PM
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If nobody wants you what do you suggest instead? Perpetually retaliate against women as a whole for women not liking him as he has been
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:15 PM
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It's a good thing all the men with girlfriends, wives, and sex partners didn't think it's "delusional" to believe you can date if you talk to women the right way. If they did they would be miserable rule 6 people instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:59 PM
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Apparently not since its almost always a rule 6 man that complains about women not "generously" being accessible to him
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:33 AM
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Women should have no sympathy for men that complain about how her standards result in those men being unable to access her. Especially men that retaliate or threaten to retaliate in response to the lack of sympathy. Don't negotiate with terrorists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:26 AM
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If only women were "generous" enough to make themselves easily accessible to the men that scold them for not doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:17 AM
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I've met hundreds of men in prison for violent crimes that struggle with women It seems like women like violent men when it's really women like men that don't tolerate bullshit which overlaps with violent men very well Nonviolent men that are assertive and pallatably brazen are way more successful with women than the rule 6 people's violent lord and savior Elliot Rogers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:57 AM
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Because it's important to negate the rule 6 people's practice of talking about how victimized men are without talking about actionable specific practical solutions to the victimization and responding to the negation with look at how further victimized we are no actionable specific practical solutions to the victimization or whataboutism
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:50 AM
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It's almost impossible to go through any "I have no standards" guy's comment history and not find standards
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:32 AM
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Instead they tell her that a very high percentage of other women are just as desirable which explains why this practice is primarily done by men that struggle with women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:26 AM
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Men should be shamed for pretending they don't have standards
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:19 AM
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It's to guilt trip women into lowering their standards by making it seem like having low standards is generous (making your valuable service of romantic partner/sex partner easily accessible) and not desperate and self serving (neccessary to do the romantic and sexual things he wants to do)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:09 AM
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It's a good thing the ugly/bad body/over 30 and poor men that do romantic and sexual things with women didn't think it was hopeless or they would not be doing romantic and sexual things with women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:45 AM
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Tbf there's a difference between taking a C because an A+ is futile and taking an F because you erroneously think an F+ is futile and also erroneously think you need a grade
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:29 AM
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Maybe I'm reading it wrong but I think what Logos is trying to do is illustrate how faulty it is to characterize enforcing this boundary as "entitlement" because that's a common response to a man enforcing a different boundary that happens much more frequently
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:34 AM
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It's much more common to see men that flair themselves as red pill in this sub do the it's hopeless whining that I'd expect from rule 6 blackpill people than talk about solutions
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:16 AM
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There's a difference between the man that tries to improve his game but has trouble because it's not easy and the man that condescendingly dismisses the idea that game exists in the first place The latter's problem is caused by why he condescendingly dismisses the idea that game exists in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:11 AM
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Think about how terrible of a person you have to be to be told that your goal you are failing to accomplish is a goal that while it can be tricky anybody can achieve it if they use the right method to achieve it. And that compells you to retaliate by telling them that any abuse they experience from someone they consented to interacting with is their fault. Like holy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:44 AM
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My comment would get deleted if I linked to it but they literally say this about their lord and savior Elliot Roger's victims
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:38 AM
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Hmm I wonder why a man that thinks murder victims that were murdered by somebody they consented to interact with always bear some responsibility for being murderd, is a man that can never do anything romantic or sexual with women Must be his looks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:37 AM
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A black pill man saying men's dating problems are a 100% skill issue is like an NAACP member that attends Klan meetings lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:20 AM
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However, and more importantly, skill issues are usually pretty easy for outside observers to diagnose I think this exposes the men's dating futility crowd the best. They have literally no respect for others to the point that they think we are all dumb enough to take their word for why they have dating problems like we can't observe what they say and draw our own conclusions. They are like those fat youtubers that condescendingly insist they only eat 1200 calories a day and workout all the time w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:19 AM
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They don't want there to be any validity to women's preferences because that works against having women appropriated as tools
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:10 AM
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The problem is the rule 6 people that make these ad nauseum futility posts like this aren't the kids trying to get better grades. They are kids that don't even go to class and just arrogantly with a condescending tone claim good grades are caused by a good brain which they don't have and can't acquire. They want women to be appropriated instead of earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:50 AM
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Now men score a touchdown in the victim olympics but women get the ball back and the game has no game clock
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:27 AM
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From what I can tell the expectation isn't that women should be virgins (except a very low percentage of men) but that women shouldn't have lots of sexual partners. Not that it's a reasonable expectation anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:32 PM
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You should have told me you were going to post this thread ahead of time so I could sell literally everything I own and bet it on most of the top comments making it sound like women want terroristic monsters that treat them like garbage. Stevie Wonder saw this coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:10 AM
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I know this doesn't challenge the view but this post is velveeta for the rule 6 cockroaches
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:27 AM
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I can tell who didn't socialize much when the concept of the unattractive woman that no man wants is a myth to them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:24 AM
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"Everything" is vague enough to make the perfect motte and bailey I don't think the double standard of adults molesting children is a consequence of man sex good women sex bad, I think it's a consequence of man perpetrator bad woman perpetrator whataboutism
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:21 AM
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No a sexual relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:24 AM
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Manipulating a person into sex under false pretenses is considered an act of coercion "Manipulating" can be anything to a point where literally anything can be classifeid as coercion. A man deliberately dressing nice because he thinks that will increase the likelihood of the woman he's meeting will like him is definitionally manipulative. It would need to be very specifically defined to avoid it being applicable to literally all human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:19 AM
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I can see how handy vs not so handy men can vary wildly depending on who you ask but kind vs not so kind men at least a glance seems like you'd get a more consistent answer
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:05 AM
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You don't need to personally witness something happen to acknowledge it happens. Men go from more desirable to less desirable all the time with women in this thread presenting examples of it instead of trying to gaslight away it's existence. It's not there's some cheat code that will make all women want you, it's there's some objectivity to what women want. Do you think if you asked a million women to rate a million men on a scale from 1 to 10, all of those million men would get an average ratin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:03 AM
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At a glance it seems like gear is an auto nope for women but only when gear likely
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:44 AM
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I get it because I do see alot of rhetoric in this sub claiming that there are attributes a man can have (especially immutable ones like tall or attractive face) that force every woman to want him But I also see alot of the inverse as a response to that claiming because all women are different, every man always averages a 5/10 to women regardless of any changes he makes I'd like to get at what controllable attributes separate the below average men from the above average men. They did a poll mont…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:42 AM
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Do you think I guess not so handy men and not so kind men are just as hot? Alot of people are saying that all men are just about equally desirable overall since women don't all want the same man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:28 AM
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Correct but just as you can destroy what percentage of women will be interested in you with bad ideas like not bathing, not generating income, making no effort to look nice, never or rarely attempting to socialize irl, telling women they shouldn't be allowed to vote, angrily scolding them for not replying to your inaugral message to them on a dating app, I'll die of old age before I finish this list, etc, you can also improve the percentage. That's also normal and okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:23 AM
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If I didn't make it Q4W/Q4BP all of the top replies would say bE cHaD or rUlE 1 aNd rUlE 2. That's what the top replies are to any dating efficacy topic that isn't Q4W/Q4BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:14 AM
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It's plausible that by just existing and by that I mean not caring about what women want will coincidentally result in him doing what's important to many women without trying to understand what many women want like you said. Do you think there's any nuance to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:12 AM
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It's ok if you've never experienced it there's other girls in this thread also saying they haven't instead of trying to change the subject. People click on threads to read about the topic, not to read about something else. Do you think the girls that are saying they have experienced it are say misinterpreting what happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:03 AM
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Well the closest thing I can think of to opposite of cosmopolatain would probably be say a magazine about programming or something like that. My point is really to talk about the concept of tomato tomahto where regardless of what you do, the end result is always the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:59 AM
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Makes sense. Do you think if he say never cooked for women, listened to women, or followed through it would make a difference? Tomato tomahto is apparently one of the ten commandments in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:56 AM
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Does loosening up and going out more count? Yes and thank you for answering the question instead of trying to make this another one of the broken record bE cHad or jUsT eXiSt threads. When you say loosening up do you mean relaxing and not being so serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:46 AM
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When did you mention a guy you knew personally? That's the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:41 AM
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But you're not answering me because it's not an answer to my question. This is like if somebody posts a thread asking what's their favorite topping on pizza and you reply with pizza's bad for you don't eat it. That's a reply to the is pizza healthy thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:36 AM
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Do you think men that do the opposite of these things will get the same shake with women? Most of the other top replies imply they think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:24 AM
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Is there anything to the mix or are all mixes equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:23 AM
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Oops you meant to reply to someone asking if there was a cheat code or not and accidentally replied to this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:19 AM
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Because the bE cHaD or jUsT eXiSt cancer that infests this sub is exhausting and unconstructive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:15 AM
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The adults are talking
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:14 AM
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When does it become interrogating?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:11 AM
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You got tired of people proving the current version of yourself is inneffective at attracting women by pulling the receipts of your reddit comment/post history didn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:47 AM
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You say that as if a man and a woman meeting and starting a closed romantic/sexual interaction is like a piece of paper being burned and irreversible. It's too much of a revolving door to conclude futility. This futility fairy tale land is quite frankly bitchmade men that are too weak to face their incompetence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:42 AM
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Unfortunately for you, almost 0% of heterosexual men never end up doing something romantic or sexual with women. Condescendingly autodismissing the idea that you are not in that almost 0% is an unhealthy coping mechanism to deal with a very common form of incompetence (bad at getting girls) Also a suspiciously high percentage of men in this sub with this rhetoric have their reddit history private. Maybe they don't want their receipts pulled to confirm the true reason they struggle with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:32 AM
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See how hostile he became when you tried giving a simple solution? You challenged his beliefs (pity-party) that some people are just meant to suffer. That hostility is when people with ego problems can't handle the idea that the method they've been using to accomplish a goal is ineffective. They need to create a fairy tale land where they can't possibly shoot themselves in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:23 AM
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Is the kind of garbage people running their minds on nothing but wishfull thinking like to think so they don't need to face the reality that their will are constrained by objective reality The garbage is the equivalent of a fat person insisting that they can't possibly lose weight because muh genetics or muh just world
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:20 AM
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"I'm stuck as permanently undesirable" is almost exclusively said by men with comment histories that show they are terrible terrible men or have their comment history hidden like OP does. They want to be scumbags so badly that they'd rather claim flat earth type delusions like this instead of not being a scumbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:13 AM
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It's effectively impossible to be immutably undateable but they have ego problems that negate self criticism so they can't admit to their faults. You can tell they have ego problems because of how they arrogantly dismiss the idea that they can be potentially dateable like you're suggesting they can jump off the empire state building without a parachute and survive. Their hallmark cocky scoffing attitude is classic ego problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:04 AM
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What you did was the equivalent of completing a 98 yard pass then throwing an interception the next play
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:48 AM
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Which does nothing at all to validate the claim that this is why there will always be gendered disparities
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:46 AM
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Schizoland is saying the disparity in reproductive rate is why there will always be gender disparities
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:45 AM
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I didn't say what they've done I said what they oppose or essentially their view. If an asian person says it's ultimately black people's fault for Latasha Harlins being shot, or refuses to condemn the shooting of Latasha Harlins and says what about the burning of Koreatown as a whataboutism, or will always try to gaslight away any anti black motive involved in a wrong perpetrated by an asian vs a black person, then fuck their expectation that I condemn anti asian behavior. This is what I mean by…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:41 AM
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This is the equivalent of saying the earth is flat because it's the third planet from the sun. The second claim is true but has absolutely nothing to do with the first claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:29 AM
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This makes you the asian person saying racism against black people is caused by what black people do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:24 AM
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This is true because if you go through the comment history of the girls go to jupiter guys in this subreddit, you quickly learn how it's not just bad luck to blame for why women aren't interested in them And it's extremely rare for their comment history to be private if they are not one of those girls go to jupiter guys. They need to prevent their receipts from being pulled to prove their decisions are why women don't like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:59 AM
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It's not because it has to be a discussion of both at the same time it's because it has to be a two way street. For example if an asian person was expecting me to condemn anti-asian behavior, I'll do that for an asian person that will condemn anti black behavior because I'm black and I require people to oppose those against me before I oppose those against them. If they can't oppose those against me and instead say bullshit like black people cause anti black behavior or a whataboutism like here'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:50 AM
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Because it's very rare for the person expecting an acknowledgement of misogyny to not downplay, whataboutism, or outright gaslight away misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:26 AM
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It's a good thing the high percentage of "subhuman manlets" that consistently do romantic and sexual things with women didn't think it was hopeless
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:24 AM
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then it was something else all along It's plausible that online dating apps are a crapshoot for a high percentage of men regardless of what they do or don't do but I haven't found any reputable data on this. Usually any promoted data doesn't isolate variables. For example the okcupid study about women right swiping on a very low percentage of men didn't document how many of those men's profiles have the features that women claim will make them auto swipe left.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:07 AM
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In response to The problem with this thought process is that the vast majority of women wouldn't find it acceptable to look at race to discriminate against people who commit the most crime, yet find it acceptable with men to justify misandry. You said If a Black friend says they’re cautious around cops, you don’t accuse them of bias. You recognise they’re managing risk around a group with power and a track record. Women do the same with men. It’s not hate, it’s situational awareness. And in resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:02 AM
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Ok so if its about who can physically impose harm then that means it is permissible to be cautious around anybody because anybody can physically impose harm correct? Or is there still some cookie cutter arbitrary "power" attribute neccesary to permit being cautious around somebody?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:24 AM
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It's not about who can physically impose harm because women and non white people can easily do that but they don't have "power". This is why it's cookie cutter arbitrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:11 AM
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Why does a group need to also have this arbitrary cookie cutter definition of "power" and not just be statistically more likely than average to cause harm to be cautious around them? This practice results in people being more victimized because they aren't cautious around groups that don't have this arbitrary cookie cutter definition of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:01 AM
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The original redpillers are now in the seduction subreddit. They didn't get on the girls go to jupiter ship with the rest of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:07 AM
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Idk why they feel the need to red pill flair to avoid a ban. Not only is the black pill flair common but while incel content does occaisionally get removed, those posting it never get banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:58 AM
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Black pills are using TRP tags to not be banned on sight Incels that are explicitly flaired as blackpill are still posting months and months later wym
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:54 AM
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The most posts are flaired as debate but all the top comments are jacking off op is probably the biggest problem in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:30 AM
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Because your claim is the equivalent of the moon is made out of cheese and doesn't need counter evidence to invalidate it. But go ahead and insist the moon is really made out of cheese absent counter evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:51 AM
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I have never in my life heard a woman online or in person talk about a past consentual experience they fantasize about At this point I'm accusing you of being a false flag misandrist here to make men look bad by pretending to be an indefensible man. You can't be authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:28 AM
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It's like a boss in a video game that has a shield you need to wear down over time before you can do damage. If you just try to do damage at the start of the boss fight it will almost certainly be reflected back to you and you will fail. The long game is wearing down the shield. Don't listen to the incels that cry dAnCiNg mOnKeY or wOmEn cAn jUsT eXiSt. If you want to do romantic and sexual things with women, not only can you not just exist and it automatically happen to you like aging, but you …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:18 AM
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I strongly agree with the long game it's the most likely to work but sadly almost all the replies to you will be from men that want to validate not trying women by autodismissing any effort as futile. These men have been destroyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:42 AM
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There's just too many unattractive people in relationships/marriages/casual sex to conclude that it must be futile if you consider yourself unattractive. It might be time inefficient but never futile.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:39 AM
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The data on where couples initially met proves that it is very far from futile to meet women in person at places aside from nightclubs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:32 AM
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From what I've seen women and men say in response to this not just in this sub but in other subs too they almost always think it's not the male sexless epidemic
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:24 AM
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Having less babies <> more lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:11 AM
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They are when they assert the cause being women wrongfully rejecting romance with men. This is a very common if not the single most common assertion in this entire sub so your gaslighting efforts are futile.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:41 AM
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Most women are not, will not and never were attracted to most men. And only chads get to experience being the objects of true female desire probably. But that's how the world works That means the very high percentage of men that do romantic and sexual things with women are this "chad" you speak of
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:20 AM
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Anybody who regularly reads this sub knows the women wrongfully reject sex/romance with men causing male loneliness is one of the most popular if not the single most popular talking point in this sub. The men that try to gaslight this play for that team.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:13 AM
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Consider me for mod so I can help enfore rule 6 that's currently not enforced very well
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:07 AM
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There's gotta be something that can exclude elders
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:39 AM
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If they called it the male sexless epidemic it wouldn't garner anywhere as much sympathy so they need to trick people into being sympathetic to something they wouldn't be sympathetic to if they knew the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:38 AM
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But there's a reason there's a male loneliness epidemic and not a female/human loneliness epidemic It's very normal for proponents of the male loneliness epidemic to reject solutions that aren;t argued to result in men having more romantic/sexual interactions with women. It's very normal for the male loneliness epidemic to be blamed on women not having enough sex/romance with men. It's very normal for proponents of the male loneliness epidemic to characterize opposition to the epidemic being wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:33 AM
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The idea that men are lonely because women are wrongfully rejecting romance with them is one of the most commonly stated causes of men being lonely in this sub stop gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:24 AM
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"It's wrong when women decline sex with a man. Women need to be held accountable for this."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:08 AM
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Trying to hold women "accountable" for rejecting men is disrespecting their autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:04 AM
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Incel vs a woman's autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:00 AM
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OP did by criticizing women not "distributing sex with men" as much as he thinks they should. This isn't limited to this thread either. "It's wrong how women are not distributing sex with men as much as we think they should" is one of the most popular topics in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:03 AM
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You used that wording because it describes how a group that represents way way less than 1% of people see women which needed to be noted due to its relevancy and impact OR You used that wording because describes how you and/or a meaningful percentage of people see women Hmm
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:10 PM
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It's not the word choice its this very common type of post in this sub made by men that are retaliating against women for not having sex with them. It's the rule 6 people contaminating this sub with their girls go to jupiter for not having sex with me bullshit that needs to be stopped.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:06 PM
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You do think it's bad. You said the majority of men are not benefiting from women's behavior because women are "not distributing sex as much as they used to". These shame on women for not being pocket pussies for men posts are very common here. Be a man with integrity and honor by standing on your apparently justifiable view instead of a chickenshit incel that pretends they don't believe something to protect their belief from negation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:49 PM
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The claim that women are not "distributing" sex as much as they did in previous generations is dubious anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:32 PM
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Because that's their gender and they side with their gender
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:41 AM
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For some reason rule six people always mischarecterize things they don't want to answer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:38 AM
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From 1 to 10 how much do you think the gender wage gap is due to women choosing less lucrative career fields vs women not being paid the same as men working the same job with 1 meaning less lucrative career fields and 10 being not same pay as same job
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:35 AM
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Almost 0% of people would say he was hopelessly undesirable to women before he gained muscle. This incel hopelessness stuff is like the earth is flat or vaccines cause autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:14 PM
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It's common on this sub to see rhetoric suggesting they think the answer is no
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:53 PM
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Do you think changing how he tries women could help or is his only hope to either try more women or change what women he tries? It seems like just trying more women wouldn't affect the percentage
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:52 PM
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How would that help him for this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:15 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:11 PM
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You got it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 06:39 PM
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Do you think men can be more successful with women by doing something besides changing his standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 06:31 PM
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If a man thinks that the way way less than 1% of ended relationships that result in a man losing money is too much of a risk to walk away from a bad relationship after it started, he shouldn't pursue a relationship in the first place. Not because the risk is too high, but because he's garbage that no woman deserves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:46 PM
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Divorce is far and away the most lucrative endeavor women undertake. It dwarfs their careers Either you are an impostor here to make red pill look bad or you're not all there. It's more reasonable to say the earth is flat than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:40 PM
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You had the opportunity to refute the black or white claim that in the event a woman wants more time with a man he must neccesarily quit his job or fail a class but instead you defend women expecting a man to do that as a condition of dating her while simultaneousely opposing men having the same expectation Sometimes you come off as an MRA/Red Pill/Incel running a false flag operation as a feminist type woman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:29 PM
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Divorces where the man loses alot of money are rare and those are just marriages not relationships where he almost never loses anything. This outcome happens in almost 0% of total breakups marriages and relationships combined.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:26 PM
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The alternative would be that the other person is effectively a dildo or pocket pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:02 AM
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Because they meet women online, through friends, or through hobbies instead of cold approaching like what was measured in the study
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:26 AM
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Crime is low in Japan because they can keep trialing you Incorrect. Nobody likes you if you are a criminal in Japan. It's not like the US where your friends/family and select groups will be on your side. This claim and saying the Swedish justice system model only works with Swedish culture makes it glaringly obvious you don't want to admit the real reason you don't like the Swedish justice system.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:19 AM
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The mods like u/GridRexx really need to enforce the top reply must challenge view in debate post rules. Most of the top replies in top posts are just mutual masturbation garbage for echo chambers not debate subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 12:11 AM
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Doing better is a better league
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 03:57 PM
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It's what you can currently pull and subject to change. It's not a permanent immutable characteristic like your species or the year you were born.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 03:18 PM
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Identify as and meet the criteria are 2 different things
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 05:29 AM
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Nobody but it's much easier to find people talking about people that put raisins in potato salad than it is to find people that actually put raisins in potato salad. Same with virgin shamers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:32 AM
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People that say virgins are bad are like people that think taco bell is authentic mexican food or people that put raisins in potato salad. An extremely low percentage of people do these things but they are talked about as if they are popular views. Just ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:17 AM
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More proof men come to this sub not to debate but characterize women as bad Of course you characterized a woman at a place for some type of hobby as "obsessed" with hobbies and when a woman replied to your public post you characterized her as "stalking" in the short guy sub. Crawl back to the fucking sewage you spawned out of
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:30 AM
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We can all read what she said so the classic incel mischaracterize what women say efforts are futile
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:26 AM
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It's almost like it's better to separate abusive from what coincidentally correlates with it and avoid specifically abusive rather than throw out the baby with the bathwater
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:23 AM
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When choosing a mate, however, compatibility matters. You don’t just work out, take a shower, get a haircut, and get chosen by the first person who wants you. You are a person with your own motivations, and finding someone who is compatible is important. You get chosen and you choose back. Also, what is appealing to one person is unappealing to another. The point of choosing people isn’t to just appeal to as many people as possible and choose all of them. You are an individual, and the people yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:11 AM
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It's interesting how it's only men that complain about being called non drinking water (swamp water) but not women complaining about being called non drinking water (sand)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:47 AM
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Most of them aren't looking for a solution. They are looking to validate their excuses for why they never do anything romantic or sexual with women. They want to characterize their disinterest in even trying women as "smart" with things like: wOmEn oNlY wAnT cHaD I dOn'T wAnT a sExUaL hArRaSsMeNt cHaRge nOt a dAnCiNg mOnKeY tHe wOrSt sHe cAn sAy iS nO
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:34 PM
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It's not advice if it's not actionable, affordable, safe, and practical. jUsT bE aTtRaCtIvE is an excuse not a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:30 PM
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Think about what it means when somebody thinks they can keep saying the earth is flat and it will magically make the earth become flat
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:11 AM
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Not surpised somebody who's comment history is full of regurgitating debunked studies that confirm what they want to be true makes demonstrably false claims of what they want to be true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:09 AM
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A non criminal guy that is as audacious, unyielding, willing to take risks, socially palatable as a felon typically is, does better with women than a meek, pushover, coward, socially awkward career criminal guy. Not women like guy more if nothing else changes besides him going from non criminal to criminal or women like guy less if nothing else changes besides him going from criminal non criminal rule 6 people trope to make women look bad I did 5 years in prison and there were glaring difference…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:03 AM
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It's a good thing the "sub5" men that do romantic and sexual things with women didn't think it was futile and made it work
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:46 AM
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It's dumb because it's spending alot of time to effectively shuffle a 52 card deck and need a full house or better for it to have been worth the time Either other methods are more time efficient and a better choice or no method works and you could spend your time better doing something else
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:42 AM
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Women wouldn't get away with just existing and looking good if that didn't cut it for men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:40 AM
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Well your comment history isn't incel futilism so I would assume you haven't really looked at the process for meeting women through friends/hobbies from a to z. The best way to learn this is to observe your friends do it but if you don't have any friends that do it uou could try todd v dating but there's some other content creators that explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:38 AM
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Average men consistently do romantic and sexual things with women. Only rule 6 people think the earth is flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:21 AM
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Whataboutism
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:44 PM
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It's not circumstantial. We can read the comment histories of people on here and those with "complaints" about women almost never say anything good about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:40 PM
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Nope men don't reject as high of a percentage of women for dating as women do for men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:40 PM
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Not humans because men don't eliminate as high of a percentage of potential dating prospects
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:36 PM
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But they aren't just simply "complaints". They have nothing good to say about women and always have an excuse for why it suddenly becomes ok or "different" when men do the same thing. That's misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:26 PM
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Eliminating such a high percentage of guys before they even have a chance is not reasonable. This results in men that never do anything sexual or romantic with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:24 PM
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I don't know how long you've been in the PPD sub but those who have been here a long time know this view is popular here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:30 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:16 AM
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I don't have a problem with women liking me so this isn't my problem I'm trying to represent the argument of the men that claim no woman will like them and their claim is it's unreasonable for women to be as picky as they are because that results in those men never having sex or relationships. They say those women should lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:15 AM
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Married to the men those picky women held out for, not to the inconvenienced men that were rejected by those picky women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:05 AM
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No because the less beautiful women are picky too
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:55 AM
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It does inconvenience them because never having sex or a relationship is inconvenient
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:48 AM
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But when women are picky that inconveniences the men they reject which is wrong and deserving of shame
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:44 AM
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You are correct but you're getting downvote bombed because salty incels on reddit go back to the roaches nest to get more vermin to ratio you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:44 PM
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Sorry but women don't understand what they like. Men that never socialize, date, or have sex with women understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:53 PM
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Men that tell women they benefit from being able to have sex with men that those women do not want to have sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 02:51 AM
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But it's ok to tell somebody that doesn't want to have sex with somebody that they should enjoy having sex with that person like a rapist
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 02:46 AM
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Yes especially the fat with a flat ass women or the mean selfish women that don't want to do anything a man wants. Don't listen to the incels that claim every woman has it easy. Women don't want to have casual sex with these men incels claim women would benefit from having casual sex with. It's very rapey to overrule somebody when they say they would not enjoy having sex with somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:51 AM
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This is common sense to anybody that's not trying to gaslight away the existence of bitter scornful arrogant men that hate women because women won't be their fleshlights by characterizing the term those men self identify with as nothing more than a generic insult
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 11:53 PM
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incel misogyny is so much more annoying than normal misogyny because they actually think they’re being intelligent and insightful when they spout off The way I grew up is if you are a man that cannot convince any women, even the least desirable women, to date you, then it is extremely impermissible for you to talk high and mighty at all let alone to refute the idea that you theoretically could convince a woman to date you. One of the main reasons incels don't have any friends is people in real l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 11:30 PM
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You need to replace "men" with "autistic men" in your title instead of doing a motte (autistic men) and bailey (men). Doing a motte and bailey means you have a bad personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 11:10 PM
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You have a bad personality if you think it is reasonable to complain about needing to have social skills as a condition of finding a romantic partner
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:13 PM
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Sure, but businesses can hire and fire at will. Sure, but it's still stupid That’s an enormous risk for women who might naively assume one of those men swiped on her profile because he legitimately shares her values and interests. Exact same guy in person
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:09 PM
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This is like if a business doesn't want to hire applicants that fill out an application on Indeed or on their website instead of walking into the business and filling out a paper application because it's the "lowest possible effort"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:57 PM
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If you unconditonally take any woman that likes you (not choosing) then speak for yourself The overwhelming majority of men reject women they don't like and I won't stand for you characterizing men as desperate as you are
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:34 AM
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If you think "allergic" is a reasonable way to describe how you view platonic non romantic relationships, then it's a good thing nobody suffers a romantic relationship with you. What a terrible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:28 AM
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But people roll their eyes when somebody complains about a lack of romance unlike when somebody complains about being lonely!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:21 AM
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But when you talk about how they can make friends they autodismiss friendship as a solution to loneliness. They just don't want to say romanceless because that invokes less sympathy. Saying lonely when you mean romanceless is a marketing strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:07 PM
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The problem is there are lots of men that could look good but choose not to and would rather characterize their failure to attract women as "bad luck" which is why it's frowned upon as a focus of efficacy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:43 AM
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Women of all races classes and backgrounds with wealthy liberal white women pulling their puppet strings
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:40 AM
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It's their ad hoc rescue they do when you talk about the millions and millions of men in relationships or married. It's not possible for all those men to be "Chads" so the relationships can't be genuine or their whole futility trope falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:04 PM
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It's ok everybody except you knows what "Hello lawsuit. Ugly men hitting on hot women, what could go wrong?" means even if you try to gaslight them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 06:09 AM
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This doesn't work for them because they don't sincerely mean lonley in the conventional sense. They are doing a motte and bailey where they say lonely (motte) but actually mean not having sex/relationships (bailey). Not having anybody to socialize with (lonely) is much more unfortunate than not having anybody to date or have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:47 AM
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Sounds like using lonely in a motte and bailey when you really mean not having sex/relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:45 AM
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Yeah I must not understand how "Hello lawsuit. Ugly men hitting on hot women, what could go wrong?" is not saying ugly men are legally punished for simply hitting on hot women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:42 AM
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No you can't provide one example of it happening in the US. Examples of what any reasonable person would call harassing behavior don't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:34 AM
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Ugly men being legally punished simply for hitting on hot women is your entire point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:32 AM
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Straw men ("you're saying men are hated for their sex not women") false dichotomy ("only women or men can be hated for their sex not both") and more whataboutism
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:10 AM
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Show me one example of an "ugly" man being convicted of a crime just for romantically pursuing a woman in the US. Examples where any reasonable person would find his behavior to be harassing doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:09 AM
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Apparently they are to their partners since most men are partnered. That or their partners still like him despite not finding him physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:06 AM
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Men raping women and girls is whataboutism? Yes you are learning good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:01 AM
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Yes there is the apple, hourglass, pear spectrum still exists even when obese. As far as what men find physically attractive that difference is more impactful at higher weight vs lower weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 03:59 AM
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She can both be obese and hourglass/pear shaped. Obese is a measure of weight not a measure of shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 03:42 AM
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Put quotation marks around "nice" if you are talking about the inauthentic nice guy tm so we know you aren't doing a motte and bailey
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 03:15 AM
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If it was PUA in the past it's not anymore. Now it's just a women bad man victim unactionable echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 03:12 AM
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Not as funny as expecting red pill men and female dating strategy women to like each other because they share the common trait of looking out for their own side's interest
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 03:07 AM
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You always talk like the cringey middle school kid that everybody else is too nice to set the kid straight
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:15 AM
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if an obese I mean is she pear/hourglass shaped or apple shaped?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:14 AM
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Men love to pretend misandry is a real issue "It's not wrong" meanwhile whataboutism Proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:10 AM
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Whataboutism is when you don't think misandry is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:34 AM
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Because it's phony sympathy if you don't think the abuse perpetrator is responsible for their abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:07 PM
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But in reality, men aren’t an oppressed group This isn't the earth revolves around the sun or 2 + 2 = 4. It's debateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:11 PM
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So if a man has suffered alot of non retaliatory (women punished him for something wrong he did is what I mean by retaliatory) abuse from women it becomes ok for him to hate women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:09 PM
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Isn't the bullying ultimately caused by men? It's commonly argued that any time a woman does something wrong, her wrong behavior was ultimately caused by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:59 PM
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The problem is it's almost always wrong to use negative experiences with members of a group that share an immutable characterstic to justify treating members of that group poorly before the member has done anything to deserve it. The very rare exception that is made when man is the immutable characterstic is arbitrary and hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:48 PM
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When you say punished do you just mean punished because of laws or big corporations?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:44 PM
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Way way way less likely for a man to be in danger after rejecting a woman vs a woman being in danger after rejecting a man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:11 AM
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The millions of women in relationships say hi
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:08 AM
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I have yet to meet a black piller who doesn't believe red pill bullshit Black pillers (incels under a different name) wholesale reject the red pill concept of what actionable, low risk, and affordable things you can do (effective or ineffective) to attract women. Don't let the ince... I mean black pillers convince you they are just a subcategory of red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:06 AM
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They do just not at a gym where a man shouldn't feel compelled to approach women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:24 AM
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It's obvious to people who have consistently been in social circles so those who disagree are telling us they rarely/never socialize without telling us
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 11:50 PM
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The men in those social circles don't like that either
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 11:50 PM
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Rule 6 people reject irl dating because they can't keep friends with the way they act, look, smell, and their beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 11:49 PM
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You can clarify that you already have or don't want friends instead of making it sound like you want more friends. Did you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:47 PM
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Correct it's a motte and bailey where they make it sound like platonic non romantic non sexual relationships would be fine until you propose that then they go full mask off. If they were honest from the beginning they would get alot more eyerolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:38 PM
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When these men say lonley they are doing a motte and bailey where they make it sound like they just want friends (motte) when in reality they want sex and relationships but not non romantic platonic friends (bailey)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:05 PM
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They aren't spending their lives on the squeeze they are spending their lives on punishing women for women having standards (expecting men to "squeeze"). They're like flat earthers where when you show them average or below average looking men with girlfriends and above average looking men that struggle to attract women they put on the Ray Charles sunglasses and pretend they can't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:59 PM
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I appreciate the effort but I've been on this sub for a while and it's very hard if not impossible to get incels to believe they can attract women. That would be the incel admitting they've been doing something/believing in something wrong which is apparently worse than never doing anything romantic or sexual with women. It's reasonable to suspect they are gay or asexual due to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:54 PM
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If that was true then we wouldn't see nonstop incel rhetoric by users with redpill flair. The incel rhetoric on this sub almost exclusively comes from users with redpill or blackpill flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 03:31 AM
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Nope it's because they are more interested in negating their fault in failing to attract women by pretending average and below average looking men never have girlfriends or casual sex than they are fixing their problem
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 02:16 AM
6

Much more the fat pear/hourglass shaped women than the fat apple shaped women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 12:10 AM
1

They don't want to because of "i'm the prize not him" not that they can't
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:45 PM
4

Imagine characterizing the ability to easily sleep with men you do not want to sleep with as a "privilege"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:41 AM
1

Change your flair to blackpill you impostor
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:31 AM
0

The only men I see getting upset about women not wanting to split the bill in dates are male feminists This is the most ridiculous claim I have read in a long time. It's more sensible to claim the earth is flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:44 AM
1

You can easily determine somebody's answer to a question without asking them an off putting question or even a question at all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:38 AM
3

If you are not succeeding, lower your standards!! Holding out for what you want even if it means nothing 50 years later is much more practiced than lowering standards
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:56 PM
2

What countries have the same degree of rights for women that western countries do without as much "misandry" as OP put it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:33 PM
-1

My current girlfriend and every girl I've dated has called me sweet nice or (less commonly) gentleman from when I first started talking to her to when the relationship ended
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:06 PM
1

That's because incels have co-opted the red pill flair
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:32 PM
2

I'm the same where if she's extremely fat like 350+ pounds it doesn't matter how she's proportioned but I don't believe in too much ass. I like the doesn't exist in real life hyperbooty ai content.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:04 AM
4

I like larger women when they are pear or hourglass shaped but not apple shaped
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:17 AM
1

I thought men didn't actually like women and just pretend to like them to get women to be the man's masturbation tool?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:54 AM
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No they don't it's a vocal online minority who preach that they do. It's misandrist women that want to slander men while also convincing women to reject men as well as incel men that want to negate the claim that they could have sex if they tried to sleep with the women that wanted to sleep with those incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:42 AM
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Ridiculous. There's plenty of (usually less attractive) women looking for casual sex. Those men just don't want to admit they forgo the less attractive women and market themselves as oppressed victims instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:30 AM
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Men don't have standards Most men fail to attract any woman for casual sex or a relationship Most men can't be platonic non romantic friends with women Men need (as opposed to want) sex Men are more virtuous or some other objectively positive attribute for generally being less picky than women when selecting a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:24 AM
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Nowhere near as many bitter incels
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:15 PM
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My ass and boobs would be so big I wouldn't be able to get into a car
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:47 AM
2

He still has a problem even if he's not a bad person by being pushy, not taking no for an answer, cringey, etc. The issue is he comes off as indiscriminate and desperate. He shouldn't be compelled to try multiple women in his friend group that frequently like he can't get by without a girlfriend/sex and anything is better than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 01:28 AM
2

I think it would be better to hang out with female friends and organically meet their single friends of friends instead of asking your female friends to set something up. Asking is often perceived as too tryhard and not doing your own work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 01:19 AM
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Yes it makes sense but sadly most of the replies to you will be the little ego that couldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 01:09 AM
2

If he were to elaborate on how, defeatist men like you would dismiss it as futile like you defeatist men always do. Meanwhile the unattractive men who aren't "smart enough to realize it's hopeless" are having sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:33 AM
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No they are physically attractive it's just their behavior is platonically desirable but not romantically desirable. It takes more than just being nice and also physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:54 PM
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Physically attractive guys get friendzoned all the time when they "treat women like they are human" and don't flirt with her, make it very clear that he's romantically interested in her, and ask her to go on romantic dates. OP should have made it more clear if he was talking about genuinely nice guys or guys that think women are vending machines that should spit out product if you feed them nice tokens
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:20 PM
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There's a difference between harshly telling somebody they look older than they think they look without charisma or tact and telling somebody that you were anticipating they would be near their age
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:37 AM
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I think thatbitcha is right I'm just describing the men who think she's wrong. They live in their own fairy tale land where whatever they want to be true becomes true and never socialize with men that at least sometimes attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:32 AM
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Attractive face + boring/dumb/ugly personality = rejection Forgettable face + a personality that keeps you laughing = a possible mate Living in a fairy tale land where you can make whatever you want to be true become true + never socializing with men that at least sometimes attract women = your 2 claims are false
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:33 AM
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But I don't want to help you or discuss how to attract women. I want to complain about how I'm not attracting women and can never attract women. I also find complaining about something that I don't think can change to be the best use of my time so I don't want to do anything else either. You have some nerve to call something other people do "middle school antics" when you type one sentence every other line like you never went to fucking elementary school.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:29 AM
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bUt fOrMuLaS hAvEn'T wOrKeD fOr mE, I dOn'T tHiNk aNy fOrMuLa cAn wOrk, aNd I wOn'T mOvE oN fRoM tHiS sO i'M gOnNa kEeP wHiNiNg!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:31 AM
3

Main goal understates it. Its for if women have no value aside from masturbation tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:02 PM
-3

Replacing what people say with something they clearly did not say to invalidate it is one of the inkwell 10 commandments
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:59 PM
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Why interact with women other than to have sex is one of the inkwell 10 commandments
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:58 PM
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You have to remember that value aside from masturbation tool in women doesn't exist for the rule 6 people like OP
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:55 PM
2

It's also not that your experience is the rare exception to the rule. It's very easy to find lots of different men candidly talking about preying on younger women because they're easier to manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:27 AM
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The problem is men that hate women defend the instances in which the man is preying on a younger woman to manipulate her by trying to gaslight away the existence of the practice and women that hate men characterize all man much older than woman age gap relationships as predatory by trying to gaslight away the instances where it's not predatory
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:24 AM
4

Can you people stop with this "not having sex is like not having food and water" mantra?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:50 AM
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Not even close and that's a belief that only incels ad nauseum
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:04 AM
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The companies want to do what sells not what gets good results. If you match up you are no longer a customer. But the customer is far far more interested in paying for a genuine match than they are interested in continuing to pay for no/bad matches so either the company actually doesn't want to do what sells or they're having a hard time selling matches. By matches I don't just mean she right swipes and he right swipes I mean something that results in what both him and her want like casual sex o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:30 AM
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Apps are a reflection of society's dating dynamics and not the other way around. An application like you described would not be successful. This is true and it's frustrating how people think the struggle only begins when going online. Women are just as picky with strangers they met outside their social circle, hobbies, workplace, and school in real life as they are with strangers they met outside their social circle, hobbies, workplace, and school online. It's a symptom not the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:21 AM
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We can safely disregard the little incels that can't
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:18 AM
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Yeah men that have nothing good to say about women and explain how everything women do is rooted in malice or something wrong are being unfairly blamed for their failure to attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:15 AM
-3

Whataboutism and insults
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:12 AM
-4

Whataboutism
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:03 AM
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We can separate the good lonely men that aren't bad people but just don't market themselves well to women or have physical features that are so bad marketing won't help them much from the bad incels that think all women are malicious and defend monsters like elliot rogers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:55 AM
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Or do you think women are truly so shallow that 6’9 will win them over That's the point. They "know" women are so shallow that tall/good looking is all women want and are trying to expose it. It's similar to flat earthers "knowing" the earth is flat and trying to expose the "cover up".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:47 AM
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Its a candid gotcha attempt to prove that women will let tall/good looking be enough for her to like him regardless of how horrible his other attributes are
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:45 AM
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Too many sprinkle sprinkle type women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:52 AM
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Black pill is incel
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:52 PM
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When you hate women so much that doing something women may enjoy stops you from doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:14 AM
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Keep defending elliot rogers and other incels like him then expect us to believe your looks are the only reason women don't like you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:54 PM
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Found the incel
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:53 PM
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You're correct they never socialize with women or non incel men. They live and breathe in incel echo chambers and that's why unattractive men with girlfriends/casual sex are a myth to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:03 PM
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Incels disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:49 PM
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That's applies to every form of a man trying you and is not unique to cold approach
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:16 AM
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Inb4 nirvanna fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:15 PM
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Based on your comment history of equating a lack of sex to a lack of food and water this seems like a thinly veiled attempt to call sex something that should be a right but isn't because we "cherry pick" rights
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:04 PM
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Because they see all the incel circlejerking on this sub and make a hasty generalization
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:59 PM
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It's not that men are uglier, it's that there is a higher demand for women than for men. That's not caused by a misandrist conspiracy theory that women secretly agree on. They are pawns in the game like men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:53 PM
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But even if they demonstrate behaviors that are by themselves repulsive or symptoms of repulsive behavior they'll never accept that those behaviors destroy their chances of attracting someone. They'll just ad nauseum cargo cult science that it's their looks like when spongebob had bad breath and said im ugly because im proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:08 PM
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Nope it's blackpill. Don't let the blackpillers convince you its red pill like nazis trying to convince you its socialism or misandrists trying to convince you its feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:05 PM
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You're brand new here so that makes sense. Go through about 10 of the popular threads and you'll see EXACTLY who i'm talking about. Or just wait about an hour or 3 and they'll come into your thread. They are a very popular type of person in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:59 PM
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So the solution is to do a motte and bailey where you claim you are just simply "venting frustration" when you are actually trying to shame women into having sex with men those women do not want to have sex with. You shame them by having nothing good to say about women, mischaracterizing everything they say, and calling it "delusional" when women hold out for what they want. You use debunked or misleading statistics and talk about men's dating problems as if it's something serious and dire like …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:42 PM
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He knows that because what Elliot Rodgers to incels is like what jesus is to christians or mohammed is to muslims. That over the age of 25 thing is just hedging/moving the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:19 PM
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Fair enough this time but it was a fair assumption given how hallmark that behavior is among you blackpill/incel men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:25 PM
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The incels really think they can just tell us they're "simply expressing mild frustration" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:21 PM
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Does the official incel/blackpill bible tell you to misrepresent what someone says when you don't like it? I've noticed you people almost always respond like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:33 PM
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Hilarious how you can't tell the difference between there are older men that target young adult women to groom/manipulate them and young adult women in relationships with older men are necessarily being groomed/manipulated You have very poor reading comprehension skills so you should stick to those other languages
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:01 PM
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"Age gap relationships" have been exhaustively discussed, the primary concern is surrounding people who intentionally target partners in their teens and early 20s due to the high risk of manipulation, coercion, and abuse The fact that you believe someone in their early twenties in an age gap relationship is being manipulated Does this help you understand the difference between "people who intentionally target young adults to manipulate them are bad people" and "everybody in an age gap relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:57 PM
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"Age gap relationships" have been exhaustively discussed, the primary concern is surrounding people who intentionally target partners in their teens and early 20s due to the high risk of manipulation, coercion, and abuse. they're inherently bad. It's ok if you're having a hard time with this I'll put them side by side to make it easier for you. Now take your time and slowly try to figure out the difference between them. If you're still having trouble just explain what you're having trouble with …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:53 PM
2

Tell us you can't read without telling us
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:46 PM
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The egregious misrepresentation of a counterargument by quoting something that was never said is the incel signature move like a pokemon lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:40 PM
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Take your time and slowly reread the comment to figure out how he's not claiming age gap relationships are wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:34 PM
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Loserdom is when you constantly bash women in retaliation for women not fucking you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:31 PM
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Pretending people that disagree with you said something they never said to invalidate them, always having a condescending dismissive tone, and a comment history full of reverse concluding looks explains every woman's dating behavior shows you are a textbook incel
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:27 PM
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But the rule 6 men that autodismiss all dating advice either don't have a social circle or they do but its nothing but other rule 6 men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:58 AM
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Not getting a date is the least problematic thing about him. His comment history shows exactly why it's a good thing no woman ever gives him a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:30 AM
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That's because the rule 6 people are so pathetic that they have nothing better to do but cry nonstop online about how only they can fix their problem and this is one of the subs they live in
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:19 AM
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Men that don't want to socialize with women that are not romantically interested in them, are not employed, in education, or training, challenge the idea that they should be nice, and autodismiss any possibility of a change to his behavior resulting in him attracting women are very far from normal. You're not a normal guy, you're a fucking horrible guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:16 AM
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A very low percentage of men that rarely/never have sex are so pathetic that they have nothing better to do but constantly whine about it on social media. It doesn't surprise me at all how a man that finds that to be a good use of their time is universally repulsive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:06 AM
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They both say and do comparably heinous things
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 06:59 AM
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whataboutism
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 06:33 AM
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A man doesn't have options when he's the little engine that can't or the little engine that doesn't think it should have to
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:59 AM
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Maybe there's another explanation for why that low percentage of men, especially those men on this sub make that claim like concluding dating app environment translates perfectly to irl environment because they have very little irl social experience
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:22 AM
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It's randomly approached by a man they've never met in social situations too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:43 AM
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What percentage of men do you think believe that? Let's not pretend men are a monolith in lockstep with their beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:42 AM
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So then why do you think men are much more interested in trying women in social situations vs cold approaching if It's not because the social situation had something to do with his interest in her?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:19 AM
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Do you think that's because men are only become interested in a woman after there is a conspicuous mutual interest like hanging out with mutual friends or participating in a shared hobby like say volunteer work or say co-ed sports?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:22 AM
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It's already effectively legal you just have to pretend that it's a "relationship" or "casual sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:22 PM
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Nobody would want a relationship if they couldn't reject people for immutable characteristics like being ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:03 PM
2

At least you directly answered the question instead of giving a politician answer like everybody else
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:48 AM
1

When you say lean do you just mean low body fat percentage or low weight per height?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:05 AM
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Its a good thing those guys with girlfriends/wives didn't think it was hopeless
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:57 PM
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This is often a motte and bailey with the motte being "agreeable" and the bailey being bangmaid
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:33 PM
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For a lot of men, there's a big difference between fat and curvy vs fat and flat. Fat and curvy can compete with skinny for a lot of men. Not so much fat and flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:20 AM
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Well everything I bash women for is 100% factual and they do the same thing the men are doing. Yet you were only bashing the women for it. Hmmm what does it mean when somebody only opposes the behavior when just men or just women do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:46 AM
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No i'm asking people to be afraid of actual crime and not do the strong = crime and the penis = crime thing you are doing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:33 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:29 AM
1

Why do you think leftists are getting in the way of protecting themself?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:28 AM
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It's about what makes it ok to fear a group and within that topic why it's ok to use one reasoning to justify fear of one group and not use the same reasoning to justify fear of another
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:25 AM
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Not if they were just as likely to commit crimes as "regular people". "Regular people" can be just as dangerous as "large orcs" you are being arbitrary af
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:24 AM
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I'm asking if you think it's unreasonable for women who have not been victims of crimes perpetrated by men, to be afraid of men. Not sure how you can be unsure of what I'm asking I made my self very clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:21 AM
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It's not a tangent it's about what makes it reasonable to be afraid of men. The argument is that things that don't make it reasonable to be afraid of other groups also don't make it reasonable to be afraid of men. See how its within the theme and not "off the rails"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:20 AM
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Why would it matter if men were more likely to be stronger if they didn't commit crimes at a higher rate? You would be just as likely to be victimized by a woman as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:10 AM
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So it's only reasonable for women who have been victims of crimes perpetrated by men to be afraid of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 03:31 AM
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The acutal point is if it's reasonable to use crime statistics to justify being afraid of a group of people because that group disproportionately commits more crime than the people outside that group. The point of bringing it up is to expose the arbitrary practice of justifying that discrimination with men but not with black people. If you can figure out how to not discriminate against black people despite the higher crime rates, surely you can figure out how to do the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 03:29 AM
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Correct we now live in an either look good and women autofuck you or don't look good and stay lonely society because less attractive men with enjoyable genuine relationships with women and more attractive men that struggle to attract women are a myth made up by blue pillers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:32 AM
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By sit and wait do you interpret that as just continue to try like you have been or hang in there? Or do you interpret that as stop attempting to date and just literally sit and wait till a relationship happens to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:16 AM
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Men get falsely accused all the time and false rape accusation women defenders like you always claim he's guilty regardless of the evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:04 AM
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The woman is less likely to falsely accuse you than the bear is to attack you But that's false so we should acknowledge reality instead of defend false rape accusation women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:50 AM
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The bear because a bear in the woods is less likely to attack me than a woman in the woods is to falsely accuse me of rape resulting in a rape conviction
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:40 AM
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Windmill Flowers is being sarcastic to illustrate the absurdity of calling a woman a pick me for being more interested in encountering a bear in the woods than a male human
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:23 PM
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So please do not listen to online losers saying you'll end up in jail for starting a conversation. Some men hate women so they deliberately mischaracterize women as likely to accuse a man of sexual harassment when he respectfully attempts to talk to her and walking away if she says no Doing so is scary, most men don't have the courage and that's how they feel better about themselves. It's not scary talking to women. You don't have to worry about her being violent and it's very unlikely that she'…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:23 PM
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What did OP say that implies it can be ok for women to cheat or its worse when men cheat? Saying what conditions are more likely to result in something wrong happening isn't saying it's not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:01 PM
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Saying women are more likely to cheat when they're unsatisfied in a relationship is not saying its ok for women to cheat. Identifying the prevalence of something in a specific circumstance is not saying that something is justified. OP never said its particularly unreasonable for men to cheat. In the first sentence he said it applies the same with the genders swapped. You didn't even try to read the post because you're not here to listen you're here to ad nauseum wOmEn pRiVeLeGe mAn vIcTiM
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 01:58 PM
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That’s what we’re doing. We’re bringing up a term in casual conversation to gauge their reaction. Leaving food out to see if the dog will eat it like they are an animal instead of communicating your concerns to them like they are a human
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 01:26 PM
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By "testing" them like you are trying to see if a dog will eat your food once you leave the room instead of asking them if they have a red flag you're worried they may have
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 12:14 PM
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Isn't that playing games and not treating people like they're human?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:07 AM
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More attempts to gaslight away the existence of predators. You are either a predator or a predator apologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:06 AM
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The little engine that can't attract women under any circumstances realistic or hypothetical But seriously I think roughly 20% of women would effectively become men. Like stud lesbians but not necessarily homosexual just very stereotypically masculine presenting and behaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:00 AM
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And why does your post have to mention men being virtuous for having no standards for it to be permissible for me to relate your claim of women not doing something out of virtuosity to men not doing something out of virtuosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:50 AM
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Then why even try to read if I clearly related your claim that women aren't being virtuous when they decline insecure men to men not being virtuous when they have no standards and my post doesn't even claim men do or don't date insecure women out of virtue nor mentions that anywhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:45 AM
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I don't see how you can't grasp that I'm claiming their followers are primarily one group of horrible men with a much lower percentage of their followers being a different group of horrible men and instead conclude that I'm saying their followers are one group of horrible men all sharing the same two attributes that can't simultaneously exist at the same time I don't see how you can characterize predators succeeding in preying upon insecure women as "the redpill working" instead of terrible pred…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:15 AM
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if the followers of fresh and fit/tate are chronically online autistic incels You're trying to gaslight away the existence of the predatory men that act like fresh and fit/andrew tate and succeed in preying upon insecure women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:27 AM
1

Very common in this sub to see men talk about bottom of the barrel men like "recessed chin manlet"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:53 AM
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And being able to quickly view hundreds of prospects on dating apps made women pickier with the grass is greener effect so we need to combat women's pickiness for the greater good of society
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:45 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:24 AM
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There are good virtuous men that are simply willing to date women that are insecure/have low self esteem and there are bad fresh and fit/andrew tate like men that want a tool as well as their apologists that try to gaslight away the existence of the practice to negate the opposition to it. The doesn't do something not because of virtue also applies to men who don't have standards. It's not because those men acknowledge that there are women who struggle to attract even very undesirable men for re…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:17 AM
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I feel like you're using simp as a placeholder for respectful instead of groveling and spineless
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:25 AM
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Because sierra mist is a C tier soda
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:08 PM
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You can want women and have trouble getting your own place
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:43 PM
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I find it hard to believe you don't care if you have romance with women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:33 PM
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How do you think the unattractive men in relationships met their girlfriend or wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:30 PM
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How long before you have to pay to continue? I've been using Tinder for years and hinge for about 2 years and have never had to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:28 PM
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Tinder and Hinge are free. You don't have to pay to swipe like eharmony or match.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:23 PM
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My point is if you are in fact a woman, then that means the men you hold out for cheat on you with the other women that hold out for him and abuse you in other ways. That's how the men you hold out for behave and you are perfectly fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:21 PM
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You're a woman so you don't understand how the men you hold out for cheat on you with all the other women that hold out for him too. Women don't understand how they are spinning plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:18 PM
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Are you a woman or are you a liar?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:15 PM
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Nope it's you that knows nothing about how you're one of many plates being spun
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:10 PM
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Do you think they can compensate for their lack of strength with manipulation? After making a tumblr page that's heavily centered around women manipulating men and getting 20k followers I wonder what they're capable of lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:07 PM
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Why do you think those women are closed off or cut the conversation short with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:04 PM
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Do you think women could install a female dominated apartheid like system over men if they wanted to? I'm not saying women want to do that it's more a question of if there's parity of innate capability for one gender to oppress the other. As opposed to to what degree the genders are currently oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:56 PM
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I'm saying the quiet part out loud
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:40 PM
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I think both could be true as well. Thank you for being intellectually honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:36 PM
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Are there any negative attributes that women have that are a result of biology, similar to how men committing more violence (violence is a negative attribute) is a result of biology?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:31 PM
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It's a good thing the nonwhite men with girlfriends/wives didn't let that discourage them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:20 PM
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That's not his description of women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:11 PM
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That might count as an equality motte and bailey but sadly the discussion related to this won't be about equality motte and bailey and will just be about abortion. This is why I didn't want to give an example. It's like if you said not all birds fly and they asked for an example and you say penguin and they say yeah but that's in Antarctica and nobody lives there as if that means it doesn't count as an example off a bird that doesn't fly. I fucking hate that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:07 PM
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I just gave you an example but anyways this isn't about the details of a specific example. Wanting to make things better for your kind or the kind you like is not equality. "Indirect equality for everybody" by wanting to make things better for your kind or the kind you like is not equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:01 PM
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If a man is poor, it's because he must not have had the right to escape poverty Maybe that's not a good example but my point is about how equal rights is often used as a motte and bailey and not about the details of a specific example of a motte and bailey. I'm worried if I provide an example all people will want to do is nitpick at the details of the example and not discuss the using equal rights as a motte and bailey.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:54 PM
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"Rights come from the degree of the historical political representation of your race/gender so if your race/gender hasn't had much historical political representation, then the problem you have must be a lack of rights and if your race/gender has had alot of historical political representation, then the problem you have must not be a lack of rights" I put it in quotes to make it clear that I'm not claiming the argument rather using it as an example. "Equal rights" can often be a motte and bailey…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:46 PM
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Aren't disproportionate crime rates between groups a result of historical policies that make treating the group like it's responsible for the crime unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:39 PM
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Except when basic human rights is defined in cookie cutter way that disproportionately excludes disparities for one gender. Basically when disadvantages of one gender are the lack of rights and disadvantages of the other gender is not lack of rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:31 PM
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I meant gay in the antiquated synonym for heterosexual yet no effort to pursue women Why do you think the unattractive men with girlfriends/wives didn't let the higher difficulty level stop them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:10 PM
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How it's much more socially acceptable for a woman to grab a man's ass than vice versa They hand out blessings
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:07 PM
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With the people not just women that are emotional and manipulative yes Women are emotional and manipulative like birds have wings no
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:03 PM
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To answer your question as to where the “female women” are, they are staying away from men that you that put the word female in front of woman Tbf they are probably trying to differentiate sex and gender, a belief that modern feminists strongly support. The men you are talking about say female without women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:50 PM
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Bingo! It's the large number of men that defend the bad men that are more of a problem than the smll number of bad men. It makes sense why women assume any many is dangerous when there are way more male bad man apologists than there are male anti-bad man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:43 PM
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Think about it. These are men that characterize it as wrong when women aren't having sex with whom those men think those women should have sex with and try to strong arm women into not being afraid of strange men in isolated circumstances. They're rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:37 PM
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Circular reasoning is a tough sell
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:33 PM
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Saying you didn't hate women until women did the things that caused you to hate them (chicken and the egg) is justifying. You still hate women and continuing to hate women is justifying the hatred of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:18 PM
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You're pretending I said something I didn't say right now. What are you pretending I said that I never said?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:12 PM
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He literally says in his post that he must be an ally of feminists because he's a celibate bachelor with a job that lives with his parents and further confirms this in his replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:08 PM
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Their argument isn't someone causing zero harm is a part of the problem, their argument is someone asking for recognition for not causing harm is part of the problem. You keep pretending people are saying things that they aren't saying and making it very clear to everybody the real reason you fail to attract women. Men with your attributes certainly can be harmful and men that insist men with these attributes cannot be harmful and pretend people that disagree with them are saying things that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:06 PM
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Again men that keep justifying their hatred of women are underserving of relationships with women and we better hope no woman gives you a chance until you stop justifying your hatred of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:47 AM
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The only nonwhite people that say this are asians and indians. Black and hispanic men reject this stupid whitepill nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:40 AM
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Correct men who hate women are underserving of relationships with women. Let's hope no women give you a chance until you stop hating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:35 AM
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The idea that men are as picky as he describes women to be and that men are as likely to publically humiliate and claim sexual harassment charges when approached as women are is very, very controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:32 AM
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How are men also like his description of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:21 AM
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It's a good thing those men with girlfriends/wives didn't let the idea that what they were doing is being "on 24/7 365" stop them from finding relationships. Why do you consider pursuing women romantically being "on 24/7 365"? What is it you're doing that seems so unreasonable that it's better to be gay I mean give up on having relationships and sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:20 AM
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So women would rather increase the prevalence of violence and the incarceration rate than stop being delusional? Women are wonderful!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:09 AM
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Correct it's stupid to feel like a dancing monkey when talking to women. All the men with girlfriends/wives are glad they didn't let the stupid idea that it makes you a dancing monkey when you talk to women stop them from finding relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:54 AM
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Or you're not the dancing monkey you say you are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:45 AM
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But those men are going to become violent if they don't get sex so those women are causing violence
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:10 AM
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Whatever incel charecterize the thought of it being a good thing that not so good looking men with girlfriends and wives didn't think it was hopeless and characterize the thought of it being a good thing thing when non ugly men don't sabotage their dating life by justifying the hatred of women and never socializing with women in real life as dElUsIoNaL
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:54 AM
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But it's not a family member you love and say good things about. It's a family member you have nothing good to say about, don't want to interact with them at all, and egregiously mischaracterize their behavior to make them seem much much worse than they actually are. It's hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:52 AM
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lOcAtIoNs dOn'T mAtTeR iF yOu'Re nOt cHaD bEcAuSe oNlY cHaDs hAvE gIrLfRiEnDs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:50 AM
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It's a good thing all the not so good looking men with girlfriends and wives didn't think it was hopeless and it's a good thing all the non ugly men didn't sabotage their dating life by justifying their hatred of women and never socializing with women in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:48 AM
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Every single comment of yours is anti woman, you erroneously believe a low percentage of women listen to rock, you pretend women are saying they would rather encounter a bear in the woods than a man despite the overwhelming majority of women choosing the man, and you self admittedly never interact with them in real life. These are just a few of the many receipts that can be pulled. This is how you say you hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:38 AM
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This rhetoric is is the incel anthem so if you don't like your rhetoric being called incel then stop espousing incel rhetoric. It's hard to believe it's your looks that are to blame for you failing to attract women when you hate women, vastly overestimate the prevalence of women being bad, and assume every woman won't like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:36 AM
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It's causing harm because this results in men not having as much sex as they want and the men you hold out for aren't actually monogamous to you. You are one of many plates they spin at a time and they abuse you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:34 AM
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That's like saying if you drive a car you will die in a car crash because car crash fatalities happen. It's very unlikely but the reason you want to call it likely is because you hate women and want to characterize them as bad. You and many others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:31 AM
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How the fuck would women see that through an app? OMG he's wearing a black Sabbath shirt he must hate women. The fuck kind of shit is this You don't have to tell or conspicuously depict you hate women for you to fail to attract them because you hate women. The fact that you think you have to have a picture or something in your bio that clearly shows you hate women for your hatred of them to sabotage your dating efforts is one of your problems with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:30 AM
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Make friends with people that are friends with women. They weren't born friends with women. If you have a problem that's resulting in you failing to make friends with people that are friends with women then work on that problem first instead of blindly following self destructive incel hopelessness rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:07 AM
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Exactly which is why you have nothing to worry about. The "women consistently accuse men of harassment that didn't occur" is misogynist phoney baloney. Men that regularly interact with women in person understand this. Incels that never interact with women and make no effort to falsify their views insist the earth is flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:03 AM
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It's hard to believe that somebody who justifies hating women is failing to attract women because of their looks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:01 AM
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They don't want to be around women because they cargo cult science fall for the incel rhetoric that paints women as ubiquitously evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:00 AM
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It's a good thing the unattractive men with girlfriends/wives didn't believe it wouldn't work
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:59 AM
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Why do you feel like a dancing monkey when you talk to women? I don't
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:58 AM
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Have you ever tried talking to a woman you met through friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:57 AM
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It's a good thing the unattractive men with girlfriends/wives didn't think it was hopeless
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:55 AM
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You and other women that are as picky as you are causing harm by being so picky
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:51 AM
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If we took 1000 randomly selected cases of women accusing a man of harassment when he approaches her, over 995 of them would be genuine harassment. This women consistently falsely accuse men of harassment because women bad incel narrative has got to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:50 AM
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It's hard to believe that somebody who hates women as much as you do is failing to attract women because of their looks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:48 AM
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You can find partners this way while you wait months and maybe years to find a partner through friends or hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:46 AM
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They aren't asking for a justification they are retaliating for being excluded
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:03 AM
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I reverse conclude that I must be unattractive because I can't do anything that causes me to fail to attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:59 AM
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Your response is the gender equivalent of all lives matter
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:21 AM
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Stop strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:01 AM
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Nonsensical to be more afraid of humans than bears
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:00 AM
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sToP bEiNg sO pIcKy aNd dElUsIoNaL
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:19 PM
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A slutty outfit can't exist similar to how women being attractive to attract men can't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:19 PM
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But instead of asking men to become attractive enough for women, we can ask women to lower their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:22 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:49 AM
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That's like trying to make people who think the moon is made of cheese realize that the moon is not made of cheese. Pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:22 AM
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It's a good thing they didn't have a defeatist attitude or they would still be single
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:15 AM
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Case by case
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:17 AM
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Beta bucks and being cheated on with chad ad hoc rescue
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:20 AM
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But I need to absolve myself of responsibility for failing to attract women!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:19 AM
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It doesn't matter if he's short or has a less attractive face is incel rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:14 AM
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It doesn't matter if he's short or has a less attractive face is incel rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:13 AM
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Which is better than being an incel and saying "it's over" while being jaded and belligerent towards women for no justifiable reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:33 AM
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Nobody said it was the rule. The point is they are in happy relationships because they didn't have an incel mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:32 AM
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Guys that are 5'5 or shorter with mediocre faces can be seen with girlfriends/wives all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:47 AM
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Beta bucks is an ad hoc rescue to prevent the existence of "non-Chads" having relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:43 AM
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You can't significantly control your height without serious expenses and risk so that's true You can control your looks. I see men all the time looking like they rolled out of bed and made no effort to try to look nice, usually when they are just going to do an errand like going to the store or gas station. Looks are not just immutable features like shape of face, size of head, size of hands etc. You can control your personality. People change all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:40 AM
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Very easy to find nonwhite men that consistently pull attractive women. The "just be white" argument comes from very socially uncalibrated borderline autistic indian and asian nerds that live in cargo cult science echo chambers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:58 PM
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Even if some of women's pickiness as far as choosing a romantic partner is socially constructed, that doesn't mean women should be less picky for the incels that hate how women aren't reliable pocket pussies. Fuck those guys
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:54 PM
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I'm 5'8 and I've had several women approach me as have many many "non-Chad" men. This idea that only "Chads" have consistent success with women is a myth made up by men attempting to negate their culpability in failing to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:40 PM
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Guys here like to moralize their own attraction and desires for sex as though there is something moral in their choice of who they message and who they pursue for sex... when in reality, they're just chasing their dick feelings. There's no morality either away for men or women. They are trying to make their low standards seem virtuous to coerce women into lowering standards so he can have more sex. It's very disingenous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:38 PM
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Almost every man with a girlfriend/wife did none of that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:27 PM
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It makes sense why incels and their incel friends have no success with women. Just look at how they talk about women and take no accountability for their failure to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:26 PM
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It does happen. I've been approached by women several times and so have all my friends. It's cargo cult science echo chamber men that refuse to acknowledge reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:23 PM
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They really show us why no woman wants them and insist that has nothing to do with it. Mental disability levels of low self awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:21 PM
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Common to see unattractive men with girlfriends/wives
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:10 AM
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He also has to be alive too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:06 AM
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Surely incels shaming women for their standards will make women lower their standards and help incels attract the women they want
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:29 AM
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This is why incels always talk very pompously and dismissively with things like "it's like telling a homeless person to just go outside lol". They have ego problems and don't want to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:28 AM
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But it's only reasonable to use that to justify fear of white men since only they are responsible for their criminality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:32 PM
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I would if I didn't think that would likely cause her to lose interest in me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:11 AM
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You must be fake because women that are receptive to men cannot exist
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:10 AM
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The "Ew" response and other horror "the worst she can say no" stuff is like people that think taco bell is authentic mexican food. Commonly mentioned, rarely witnessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:42 AM
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If trying to seduce women doesn't work, then trying to seduce women by improving your external presentation also doesn't work. That's a form of trying to seduce women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:29 AM
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After I started matching with and meeting women that seemed to be interested in me particularly because they found me intelligent and seemed to be especially fond of intelligence, I tried marketing that more and started seeing significantly more success.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:21 AM
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If trying doesn't work, then why would trying by going to the gym or trying by getting status symbols work?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:13 AM
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That means that when men see significant improvement in attracting the women they want, it's always because they improved what percentage of the women they try are women that like them (he got better at picking the hits and not picking the misses), never because they improve what percentage of women like them (he caused misses to become hits).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:09 AM
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Speak for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 12:10 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:53 AM
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You're one of the men that get salty over women not willing to settle that she's talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:52 AM
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Because that's saying that there are uniquely good attributes in men (fathers) that don't also exist in women (mothers) and people that hate men don't think there's anything uniquely good about men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:41 AM
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You seem to think this means “men have never had this reason.” You are false. This proves you aren't reading their well articulated and well thought out rebuttal and just quickly come up with a straw man. They explained with lots of detail why that's not what they're saying in an unambiguous manner to a point where the only plausible explanation for somebody to conclude this is they aren't reading what's being said. You don't want any opposition to your argument to be reasonable so you delete re…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 05:23 AM
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You aren't accomplishing anything by "holding women accountable for their delusional standards". They're just going to laugh at you whining about how "women made you single" and oh no anyways. You're the one with a problem not them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 05:03 AM
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It's justified because it's your only hope. What else do you think you can do? Force women to lower their standards enough so they give you a chance? Go back to the "good old days" where women aren't allowed to work and thus need to marry a man that can provide them food shelter and everything else that humans need to survive? Exactly what else do you think you can do to attract women besides meeting women's standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 04:50 AM
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The men that insist women only go for "chads" have ego problems so they can't entertain the possibility that their decisions are why these men can't attract women. They have to manifest delusional excuses to save their fragile egos that can't handle self criticism. This is why they constantly talk condescendingly and dismissively the way weak men pounding on their chests to try to feel strong do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 04:21 AM
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They don't have to do anything to deserve more. Men just have to be more interested in romance with women than vice versa and you get more demand than supply. The only way this will change is if men stop wanting women much more than women want men and men choose single over substandard as much as women choose single over substandard. This nonstop shaming women into lowering their standards makes the problem worse. The more men tell women to lower their standards the more women raise their standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 04:17 AM
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I agree with you as far as what isn't making them single but disagree as far as what is making them single. Their hatred for women as evident in their comment history and persistent effort to defend hating women is what's making them single.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 04:06 AM
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I think you're doing the classic "simping is just a negative term for being supportive" because you have everything to gain and nothing to lose when men are resources that can be extracted for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:30 AM
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If a stay at home partner needs to spend as much time doing household chores as their working partner does making money at work, then how come almost no both partners work 8+ hours a day couples need a maid to spend that same amount of time in that couple's home/apartment doing that couple's household chores?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:53 AM
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Nobody consistently spends 15 or more hours a day doing household chores
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:31 AM
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Yes she can text me too fast. I'm not going to pretend you're just asking if I don't like women that text me back. It's possible although unlikely for her to be obsessive to a point where it's looking like the beginning of a dateline episode Yes. It's possible for women to be too interested in me to a point where it convinces me there is something wrong with her. I'm not going to pretend that you're just asking if I like compliments. Sorta but probably not. Too soon would be like before the 2nd …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:31 AM
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Correct it's called the no true scotsman fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:40 AM
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Nirvanna fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:58 AM
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But you cool tho
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:55 AM
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Do you think there's anything wrong if somebody isn't looking for more nonromantic friends because they think they have enough of them, but is also looking for a romantic relationship? One argument made against this is that it means he's just looking for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:41 AM
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I'm talking about when he isn't pretending
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:25 AM
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I like how all of a sudden its women will date men they find unattractive when a woman says they won't yet it's normally men's loneliness epidemic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:16 AM
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Why do you think some people interpret his disinterest in looking for more nonromantic friends as just looking for sex? The reason I made this thread was at one point I felt like I was spending too much time hanging out with friends so I cut my social circle down until it was small enough to where I was satisfied with the social alone time balance. But I also wanted to find a romantic relationship yet it consistently see what I'm doing being framed as "just looking for sex" and wanted to see wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:12 AM
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Wouldn't it be sacrificing potential friendships if he thinks he has enough friends and isn't interested in more?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:04 AM
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You can make friends with women hoping that you hit it off with someone and develop a relationship. Sorry if I wasn't clear but I'm not talking about men who start off as friends with women in hopes of hitting off later. I'm talking about men that already have enough nonromantic friends and are only looking for romantic relationships. But what is wrong and what women get upset about is when men get rejected by the women and instead of exiting with grace and distancing themselves or finding new w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:02 AM
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Ok that makes sense. I agree he should entertain the possibility that she might not have the personality he wants and it not be where she's home free if she's pretty enough. It seems like they're home free if they're attractive enough is much much more prevalent in men than women and blackpill/incels project their standard on to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:55 AM
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Tomato tomahto
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:51 AM
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They're not neccesarily men who women choose to fuck and they don't neccesarily understand. Men like to posture.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:50 AM
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"Women don't understand what they like, men who never interact with women do"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:42 AM
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You also can't be stuck somewhere like injured in a hospital bed or solitary confinement in prison
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:41 AM
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Walking away means women don't live in your head rent free and you don't keep whining about them all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:29 AM
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I tried that earlier but got a do not brigade dm. A few of them are in the recent advice women give to men here is devised to limit their chances with me responding to one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:28 AM
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I get the impression that they interpret his interest in romance and not being content with just platonic friendships as interest in sex. It seems like a low percentage of men are seeking a celibate relationship so I get where they are coming from but at the same time I'm worried they know that but are deliberately misrepresenting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:19 AM
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dont approach women purely as a romantic or relationship prospect ever - you need to establish that she is even remotely compatible and otherwise appealing to you personality-wise Approaching women as a romantic or relationship prospect involves seeing if she is compatible and appealing personality wise. How can it be done without seeing if she is compatible and appealing personality wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:01 AM
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Is a man trying or pretending to be friends with a particular woman in the hopes that it becomes romantic? Some men that do that are attempting to utilize the "just treat her like friend not like a video game" advice Do you mean that a man has platonic female friends but wants to have a romantoc relationship with a woman? Yes but he wants to have a romantic relationship with a new woman, not the women he's already platonic friends with
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:58 PM
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There's nothing wrong with men desiring sex, and there's nothing wrong with men desiring relationships It's common to see "just treat them like a friend" which is often responded with "friendships don't have romance" and then "if you aren't interested in being friends with them, you just want to sleep with them". Now I would hope what they mean is that if you aren't interested in getting to know somebody and spend time with them that's wrong but I'm worried they are opposed to the desire for it …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:54 PM
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wat
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:15 AM
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I've noticed that the woe is me men think 1 flawed study ireffutably proves their claims
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:58 AM
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Part of that is because when men are presented with the evidence showing that they are responsible for almost all of the violent crime, they are more interested in minimizing and deflecting than they are condemning their behavior. They don't want to take accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:35 AM
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Most offenders are men undersells it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:38 AM
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https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-42/table-42.xls Males were arrested for 96.6% of rapes, 88% of murders/nonnegligent manslaughters, 84.2% of robberies, 76% of assaults, 78% of violent arsons, and 76.5% of aggravated assaults. The only categories that the majority of arrests were embezzlement and prostitution with embezzlement being a very narrow majority Violence is practically male behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:30 AM
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That's because men commit more harm than women so people don't feel as sorry for men when they suffer Women corner the pity market by not being as harmful
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:03 AM
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Those aren't moreso than women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:00 AM
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I don't think so because I'm a tall good looking rich "Chad" yet I struggle alot with women. Inb4 no true scotsman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:23 AM
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Its similar to why they call game rizz nowadays. Young people need to invent new words for not new ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:23 PM
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Imagine calling somebody who opposes the apocalypse happening for women to be enslaved again a "white knight"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:10 PM
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Women don't have to be like pearlythings to get called pick me. All she has to do is defend a man one time no matter how worthy he is of a defense and she will get called pick me. It's as if they think it's a war between men and women and you're not supposed to defend the enemy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:18 AM
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They're indirectly demonized when feminists demonize men that want SAHMs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:16 AM
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If no matter what you say they always have to disagree with/oppose/negate/invalidate what you said in some way When you disagree with them even slightly it ruins their day and they keep bringing it up weeks later like you stole from them or something equally inexcusable They only want to interact with you if you do a chore of some sorts for them They ruthlessly strawman their political opponents and politicize everything. You can do it their way 10 times in a row but when you try to do it your w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:37 AM
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When you see women as tools to masturbate with indifferently than graphical images and project your personal view onto other men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:17 AM
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You must have internalized misogyny or insert other psychological warfare tactic for only partially agreeing with their "true feminism"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:55 AM
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I would say that's obvious and is being intentionally misinterpreted to invalidate it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:44 AM
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They infantilize women more than any andrew tate ever could
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:19 AM
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Then if any of those women told feminists what happened feminists would say you raped her because she didn't give you unambigous verbal consent
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:39 AM
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Men that believe feminists when feminists characterize any sex without explicit unambigious verbal consent as rape
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:28 AM
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The question isn't should both parties put in effort, it's should both parties put in equal effort and the difference is important
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:23 AM
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Do you tell him you put out more than you want to and that's why you require him to put in more effort into the relationship than you? You're being very tangential
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:22 AM
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The difference is giving everybody a bike comes at the expense of autonomy for the bikes to choose who rides them. To not catch this is a disgustingly low amount of empathy. Women aren't resources that should be distributed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:59 AM
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Still disgusting and inexcusable. Everybody men and women hope you go to hell for being a scumbag
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:49 AM
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Makes sense if you want the apocalypse to happen in order for women to do what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:48 AM
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Then have as little sex as you're willing to so your partner only needs to provide equal effort instead of demanding extra effort for putting out more than you want to. I'm getting a typical feminist grasping for straws to justify punk time vibe out of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:45 AM
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It will if people keep trying to justify one party having to put in more effort than the other
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:26 AM
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No but being an apathetic asshole is being the antithesis of a doormat
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:24 AM
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It's the antithesis of a doormat
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:53 AM
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It doesn't have to be where they're just using their date for a one time free dinner. A smart moocher would start with something like coffee or drinks to throw off the scent for bigger mooching later. But regardless the threat of the other person not genuinely being interested in a relationship with you doesn't justify only one party having to put in more effort than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:48 AM
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It's hard to separate a bad strategy in an easy game from a hard game
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:44 AM
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Because they are nice out of principle not because they think it's a cheat code to unlock pussy If you ask women if their boyfriends/husbands are nice, almost all women would say yes and no it's not because women don't understand that they don't like men that are nice. The "nice guy" they will complain about is the guy who conspicuously tries to use niceness as a cheat code to unlock pussy, not a genuinely nice guy. Also a genuinely nice guy and a wimp are 2 different things. This motte and bail…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:34 AM
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You're doing a motte and bailey where the motte is "Women will do more for a guy they are attracted to" and the bailey is your "Women will do absolutely anything you want if they're actually attracted to you"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:32 AM
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Relationships don't just unexplainably happen because of an intangible immeasurable "vibe". There is to some degree objectivity to what people want and don't want in partners. There's observable tendencies among men who struggle and men who struggle less same for women. There's things you can do that will easily cause almost all prospective partners to lose interest in you. It isn't completely random and unpredictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:29 AM
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Nowhere near as disgusting and inexcuasble as someone hoping for the apocalypse to turn women into what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:23 AM
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Women wish you got a system reset
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:19 AM
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We know you don't care about being a monster that's why we are glad you fail to attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:14 AM
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Some of them are monsters especially men who retaliate against women saying dating doesn't have to be fair by opposing government funded programs that benefit women like planned parenthood. Men who retaliate against women for women valuing their bodily autonomy over romantic equity certainly are indeed monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:08 AM
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And women will date to ultimately use men for money men not so much yet neither truths justify only one person planning
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:46 PM
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Minus the pick you up part I recently set up 2 first dates with practical strangers exactly like that. How do you think a practically stranger first date is supposed to be set up?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:45 PM
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Tbf you are the world's only black pill woman
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:43 PM
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If men didn't complain more than half the comments in this subreddit wouldn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:36 PM
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The incels will insist that if he's ugly with a girlfriend he must be getting cucked or betabux
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:29 PM
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They do not hold out like that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:27 PM
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The issue is the men that complain about it being unfair aren't trying to ask women why they are more likely to forgo romance and less interested in sex to figure out what can be done to encourage women to want more romance and sex. Instead they retaliate and make the problem worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:22 PM
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You have no case and that's why you're being chickenshit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:20 PM
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Don't scoff when somebody asks you to elaborate. That suggests you'll get wrecked if you try to elaborate which means your argument is crap. Provide an example of society fixing a problem that's exclusively female at the expense of men or you're full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:06 PM
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Maybe not the OP of this comment but you can see enforced monogamy, criminalized adultery, ban no fault divorce, and banning women being single as geunine solutions
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:01 PM
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If they did mention that only if she doesn't care about enjoying it it wouldn't be as effective at making men look like they lack a privelege that women have and playing victm olympics
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:45 PM
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We don't need to convince you being nice is the right thing to do. If you're going to be a scumbag that challenges whether you should be nice or not and continue with the type of comments your comment history has than continue to be a scumbag. You can be a scumbag if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:42 PM
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At least he's being "himself" and not trying to "game" women "like they aren't people"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:49 AM
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They don't want a solution they want affirmation that they are doing nothing wrong to protect their fragile little egos
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:12 PM
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Almost no women agree with my claims about what women want, because women misinterpret what it actually is that they want. I'm a man who never socializes with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:59 PM
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Somebody that isn't trying to be silly and seriously believes feminism is more alive in Iran than it is in the west has no credibility
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:30 PM
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The first they are people that characterize any game/rizz/attempt to be attractive to women as "not treating her like human". Given how these are behaviors that are exclusively used in human interactions and never used in non human interactions (except for the small handful of bestiality weirdos), they couldn't be more incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:16 PM
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They don't defend genocidal/authoritarian dictatorships by saying they were forced to act that way they defend them by saying they weren't true examples of an allegedly good political ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:12 PM
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I'm going to guess it's the ad naueseum "Women don't understand what they want men who never socialize with nor have romance with women understand what women want" which comes with a cringey catchphrase "Don't ask a fish ask a fisherman"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:06 PM
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He was on the right track with make the date enjoyable for her but messed up with deck of cards magic tricks. If he's "just himself" instead of "don't feed them after midnight" by caring if the date is enjoyable and how he can make it enjoyable, he'll only get far if he's very lucky and the date miraculously ends up coincidentally enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:02 PM
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I agree that they usually aren't looking for advice but disagree that they just want to vent. They want to sacrifice lots of time to negate their culpability in failing to attract women instead of using that time figuring out how to attract women. Sacrificing lots of time to negate your culpability in failing to accomplish a goal instead of using that time to figure out how to accomplish a goal is a serious ego problem. With serious ego problems comes many other seriously repulsive personality t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:57 PM
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What about if you're treating her a way you wouldn't treat your friends? Is that any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:50 PM
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They know that. But because they hate men, anything that men do that women don't really do (like trying to attract women) is something they'll characterize as wrong Gaurantee if you go through the comment history of anybody that charecterizes methods to attract women as "not treating her like a human" you'll see a glaring misandrist/anti-male bias
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:49 PM
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But they're not trying to help. Their "advice" is a passive agressive pot shot with a "i'm just trying to help you dumbass" shield that doubles as another pot shot. They use that shield to negate any accusation that they're taking pot shots. It's a standoff weapon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:45 PM
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That very act of flirting and making your intentions known so it is a romantic courtship and not a nonromantic platonic friendship is often characterized as "not treating her like a human" framing it as input combo to cause desired output like she's a video game or a machine
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:25 PM
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Aren't women queens?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:53 PM
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Red pill is a motte and bailey where it's controversial and unpopular beliefs/policies until challenged then suddenly it's nothing but truthisms that a meaningless percentage of people disagree with
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:50 PM
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Sorry if elaboration is too much for you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:39 PM
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The worst coach of all time would assume the player must be the 5'6 the player claims he is and never assume the player is tall enough to easily dunk but isn't using an effective technique and has an ego problem that won't let him take accountability for his ineffective technique. That results in wasted talent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:36 PM
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Does top mean bossy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:23 PM
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I know what you mean about sexism. I was on a date with a girl once and she tried to negate something I said about weather (my career) with a dunning kruger like rebuttal which was fine until she said "men don't think they can be wrong". There was no 2nd date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:22 PM
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She had a rant in her profile about how you're a bad man if you're not interested in a full figured curvy woman like her The problem with that was she lied about being curvy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:15 PM
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Too many attempts to contact me/sending messages on multiple platform if I didn’t answer right away. It seems like a fairly high percentage of people would condone a man doing this with "he's just being himself"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:11 PM
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No it's not. It's opposition to him wanting a different type of social interaction with women (romance and/or friendship) than men (non romantic friendship) by intentionally misrepresenting his heterosexuality as "not treating women like they are human". There's almost never any evidence he's even slightly misogynistic let alone "very misogynistic" as you claim in instances when it's used.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:03 PM
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I think a good question to ask anybody that says "treat her like a human" would be "do men treat anybody like humans" to clarify if by "like a human" they mean "like you ordinarily would a man" or something else
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:52 PM
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Cry bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:40 PM
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By fault I mean responsibility. I'm tired of all the "i'm not doing anything wrong" whining like they're in poverty and protesting how society isn't doing anything about them being in poverty because poverty is wrong and they can't do anything about it themselves. This is why we have rule 6. They aren't coming here to discuss anything fruitful or constructive they are coming here to talk down to people and whine about their problem that they ad nauseum claim nothing can be done about it. Men tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:40 PM
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Have nothing better to do but whine about something nobody else is bothered by bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:26 PM
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Just whine pointlessly about failing to attract women while nobody else is gonna fix it for you bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:21 PM
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No I'm asking you to clarify if when you say he should treat her like a normal person do you mean he should treat her like how he treats men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:11 PM
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Like how they treat men like normal people?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:09 PM
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He's either figuring something out or giving up but either way it's nobody else's responsibility but his. He can whine about it as much as he apparently has nothing better to do and blame others but none of that will make other people fix his problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:07 PM
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Brat
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:54 PM
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But it is his fault if he's single. Nobody else should have to do anything about him being single. It's entirely his responsibility to change that if he doesn't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:52 PM
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Nope listen to the men who never interact with women at all. They are the first ones to overrule what women claim they like/do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:43 PM
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Do you think this problem could exist for men who cold approach like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:52 AM
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What's something you think he can do to improve?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:51 AM
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I like your detailed and nuanced advice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:31 AM
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Given how those who complain about "toxic masculinity" often believe there is no such thing as "nontoxic masculinity" nor "toxic femininity", it's just a term for passive aggressive misandrists
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:58 AM
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That must be what all the anti patriarchy people that infantalize women have which is ironic because they also often condemn internalized misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:49 AM
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Any term to imply an immature woman is not socially acceptable. Apparently we are either supposed to pretend immature women don't exist or characterize her immaturity as a consequence of things other than her decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:23 AM
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Society often infantilizes women by negating any culpability a woman may have in something not going her way (it's not her fault/don't criticize her) which is especially common among people who oppose patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:20 AM
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Its like if somebody posts a topic asking what kind of music you like and you reply with you can always do something else besides listening to music. Yesterday you were intentionally misrepresenting what people were saying to invalidate it and now you are trying to change topic threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:14 AM
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Accepting that you must necessarily fail to attract women is giving up
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:22 AM
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That would mean any form of social advice is incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:58 AM
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I said aside from lowering his standards
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:57 AM
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Not necessarily. Women can dislike men for non looks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:56 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:55 AM
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Why do you think blue pill wants him to give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:55 AM
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Do you think he could be doing anything wrong that results in him failing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:00 AM
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Do you think perhaps him tripling his already consistent efforts to meet women would be too much?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:59 AM
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Those all would vary but to provide hypothetical answers let's say the women that he does attract have the hobbies he wants roughly half the time but they very rarely have the looks he wants
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:49 AM
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I suppose it would vary but to provide an answer to your question lets say he's liked nerdy women and he himself is a nerdy man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:47 AM
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Do you think most guys in this situation are not muscular enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:42 AM
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Those seem like good ideas for him I appreciate your detailed and nuanced answer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:42 AM
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It's not about what I personally know it's about hearing what other peoples individual opinions are and not treating it like it's a match equation where theres one officially correct answer and personal opinion is irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:41 AM
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By giving up I mean no longer pursuing romance at all like the example you gave where he either builds a single life that makes him happy or not if his single life is already happy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:38 AM
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I said aside from giving up
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:27 AM
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This is ambiguous
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:26 AM
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I appreciate how you gave a direct and detailed answer and didn't dodge the question or split hairs. These all seem like great suggestions
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:26 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:24 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:24 AM
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It would vary but for arguments sake let's say he likes nerds
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:23 AM
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You're free to use whatever minimal amount of physical force is neccesary to stop and/or discourage her from continuing to physically assault you Not "men can punch women if they think she deserves it" Stop intentionally misrepresenting what people say to invalidate it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:13 AM
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"Women don't understand that attractive socially inept men aren't a real thing that women claim to exist"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:54 AM
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It makes sense why women consistently reject men that believe women are incapable of empathy. We better hope they never try a scumbag with scumbag beliefs like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:53 AM
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From what you described it seems like when you say "most of the people here" you actually mean "most of the men here". Would men be more fitting than people? It doesn't seem like your 1 through 6 points are even somewhat popular behaviors seen in women in this sub and rather are behaviors almost exclusively performed by men in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:51 AM
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I don't get how you can read "woman gets physically violent with a man" and interpret that as the much more benign "woman acts poorly"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:32 AM
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What I've come to noticed is that most women who are 'scared of men' aren't actually scared of men, they're scared of consequences. They are scared of the negative consequences that can occur with bad men that are much more likely to occur with men than with women In a club a woman will walk about to a group of guys, take their hat and then go dance with it without a second thought. But if that same group of guys was walking down the street at night, the woman would run across the street to 'pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:30 AM
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Bingo. It's their attempt to negate their culpability in failing to attract women to protect their ego. This is why they are notorious for talking down to you with a snarky condescending tone. That's what people with ego problems do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:18 AM
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That's what they are doing. They are treating her "like a person" no differently than how they treat their male friends "like people"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:15 AM
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person A is afraid to ask out person B so they befriend them instead I don't think this happens in the majority of these incidents. A very popular suggestion for men is to "treat her exactly like you would a guy". For the very high percentage of men that are heterosexual, this means he will not let her know he's romantically interested in her, won't flirt or have romance be the topic, won't ask her out on romantic dates, and defo won't try to touch/play with her in a flirty and romantic way. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:53 AM
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Its not like there's a good census of them to where we can see who left and it doesn't help that there's probably more people hoping they leave than people hoping they stay. I know that sounds very harsh but I wouldn't be surprised if it's true
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:57 PM
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One of the less conspicuous reasons there is such a strong opposition to incel rhetoric is their propensity to want to kill themselves. They talk about "ropemaxxing" like it's a Sunday afternoon hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:46 PM
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They would be more likely to want relationships and have lower standards if men weren't as likely to commit domestic violence rape and murder. Reducing that incidence of behavior in men will do far more to get women to date and be less picky than shaming them. Men don't get to blame women for their domestic violence rape and murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:37 PM
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You aren't being facetious with the almost died part are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:30 PM
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Chad living in your head rent free giving you a headache
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:20 PM
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It's ok if they only approach the top 1% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:19 PM
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Apparently it's too high of a risk because it's a popular argument made in this sub. Luckily for the incels that genuinely believe it's too high of a risk and aren't just making up an excuse to hide the real reason they don't want to approach, they can record the interaction which would give them silver bullet evidence of false reporting if she tries to claim sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:14 PM
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It's a red herring to ad nauseum "but man is victim" just like how feminists use red herrings to "but women is victim" you try to be nuanced with them. For bitter enemies incels and feminists sure do like to redirect everything back to I'm a victim like they are twinsies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:11 PM
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I'm glad you are tolerant and accepting of women having whatever standards they want and aren't here to bash women in retaliation for being "too picky" or "delusional" like what is more typical of blackpillers I don't think it's a good idea to tell short men or men that think they are ugly that their failure must necessarily be insurmountable because they can't (without unreasonable cost and risk) grow taller or less naturally ugly. The short and ugly men we see all the time in happy relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:02 PM
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A common rebuttal to it's ok if some men fail to attract women is it's not ok because men will become violent as a result like Elliot Rogers (the Jesus Christ of incels) and my response to that is men who become violent can hopefully be shot in self defense thwarting whatever violence they attempt and incarcerated
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:54 PM
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There's nothing wrong with women being picky and only wanting a minority of men, no matter how small that minority is. They aren't resources that should be shamed and ridiculed until they are consistently available for any man that "deserves" one. They are humans who's agency to choose who they want or even if they want someone should be respected and never scrutinized regardless of how many men end up without romance as a result of their agency. Men need to stop shaming women for being too pick…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:14 PM
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I disagree with you because I think a toddler is more liable to acknowledge the difference between how "exploited" men are on dating apps are and how exploited women are in poor misogynist countries that passport bros visit to find the prey that's harder to find in richer more egalitarian countries
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:05 PM
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Show us a 3rd cognitive disability after contrasting and reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:01 PM
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When you can't tell the difference between the morality of women going on dating apps to find relationships with men that don't need to date women for survival and men going to misogynist countries where women are much more dependent on dating and marriage to survive Tell us more about how failing to see the difference between the two has nothing to do with why no woman wants you and it's all because you aren't a "Chad"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:48 PM
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Think about what forbidden group of people genuinely believe they are "forced" to use online dating because theyll be charged with sexual harassment if they try anything else and can't forgo women equating that to forgoing food and "starving"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:41 PM
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Sorry but women don't get to speak for themselves. They don't understand why they do the things they do and need to let us men that never have sex relationships or friendships with women educate women on how they truly are. We know the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:20 PM
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More juvenile responses plz
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:25 AM
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Nice middle school aged type rebuttal
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:24 AM
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Nope women don't understand that attributes of good looking men only seem desirable because of the halo effect. Don't worry it's not your fault it's your nature to be confused like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:53 AM
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When you think unhinged Elliot Rogers like comment history is just like any other comment history and it doesn't make sense to you why someone would be cancelled for it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:49 AM
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True. The men with that type of comment history don't want to lose their job, lose all their friends, and draw interest of law enforcement so they only do it online where they can get away with it without consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:43 AM
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Click on the link you gave us and read what people are saying about his comments in both his original am i the asshole post and his subsequent tooafraidtoask post pbefore he deleted his account to hide his unhinged, domestic violence apologist, and racist comments. Or instead ad nauseum that the overwhelming majority of negative comments about him on tooafraid to ask and am i the asshole are because tHeY aRe mIsAnDrIsT fEmInIsM sUbS like the same reason you claim for the negative comments on tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:51 AM
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It's not so much that they think non americans have such a strong interest in americans that dating will be like trying to go to the store and buy bread, it's that they think their failure to attract women is caused by american or perhaps western women being "unreasonable" and they can fix this problem by trying "reasonable" women outside the US. Fragile men with extreme ego problems and no self accountability will resort to drastic measures like moving to other countries to negate their culpabi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:31 AM
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His comment history does a good job showcasing what her actual reasoning was for the go bag. To look at his comment history and still conclude the go bag was for "no reason" puts you in the same category as him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:21 AM
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He's alot like the men in this sub that make it sound like they do nothing wrong and are unfairly criticized but their comment history looks like elliot rogers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:14 AM
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After chatting and flirting with him for a while, I might get there. I might also decide that he’s completely unfuckable after 30 seconds of interaction. Sorry but you don't understand what you like. When you like a man, its because you find him physically attractive and his good looks cause you to "like" the other things about him via the halo effect. You don't genuinely like those other things you're just confused. This belief of mine nor any of my beliefs or decisions has anything to do with …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:44 AM
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I haven't read your post carefully but I get the impression that you believe the women in Spanish countries or perhaps many other countries outside the US are "easier" or "better". If you are having a problem attracting good women in the US or fall for the misogynist incel rhetoric that claims American women are all bad then you should try to fix the flaw with that instead of looking for countries where it's "easier".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:57 AM
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If the men have the looks and is willing to settle down with a single woman all other factors won't matter to her. More ad nauseum incel rhetoric saying women don't understand what they want when almost no women claim that if he's good looking all other factors don't matter to her
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:23 PM
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However, if you're endlessly complaining about no woman wanting you, and how sad that existence is, if you turn your nose up at a hypothetical woman who wants you but doesn't match your standards, I think it's fine to tell you to either lower your standards so you're no longer alone (what you were complaining about), or don't lower them and keep being alone. Pick a struggle. Especially when they use derogatory and disrespectful terms for the women they don't like such as "land whale" or "roastie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:16 PM
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Yes it does the tinder experiments show that men hardly care at all about non looks when choosing women. Either way non tinder dating and tinder dating aren't one in the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:10 PM
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Tell us more about how you're a man that overrules women when women say they actually like something about a man that isn't looks and are just "misinterpreting" what they really like. More textbook incel rhetoric please
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:08 PM
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Nobody is shallower than they would like to be lmao people can control how shallow they are you can't be serious
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:05 PM
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Women clearly weigh looks less when selecting a partner than men. Status, income, social proof, sexual competence, and many other attributes are things that women value way more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:09 PM
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This sub is infested with blackpillers that ad nauesum "but looks tho" to negate their culpability in failing to attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:07 PM
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Bluepillers are almost always left wing and feminist so its not just anti redpill. They want men who fail to attract women when being a good person and also not attempting to be attractive for women (just be yourself) to give up or lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:06 PM
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As long as you are a good person and also not pursuing romance, one day you'll wake up in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:27 PM
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They ad nauseum be attractive don't be attractive (or rule number 1 rule number 2) and mean looks when they say attractive so yes that is blackpill. It's rampant in the incel hideouts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:26 PM
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It also only works if you're not busy like having a cavity filled at the dentist or driving on the highway
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:29 PM
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No I don't think that's your advice to men I think you understand why that's bad advice and how those who promote that advice aren't actually trying to help men attract women. I've never seen you give misandrist, incel, or andrew tate advice unlike most people in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:16 PM
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I'm just pointing out that this is like the 3rd or 4th time I've seen you in a comment thread involving a guy that treats women exactly the same way he treats men (no flirting, no telling her he's romantically interested in her and not just looking for a friend, no asking her out on dates, no sexuality) so it's almost like your theme song lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:48 PM
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Especially not for men that think the way their life is was determined at birth, don't often show emotions because they know how women "react" to that, and believe plastic surgery is their only hope for attracting women You are the perfect example of the type of men that fail on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:14 PM
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He's going to get a woman because he talks to women the exact same way he talks to men which means he treats women like humans. He's (presumably) not bisexual so he doesn't flirt, ask out on dates, talk sexually, or indicate romantic interest with men. This is why he also doesn't do any of that with women because if he did, he would not be treating them like humans. This is how he's going to get a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:52 PM
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Hey look another guy that follows the "dating advice" that tells him to treat women exactly like you treat men, I wonder why there's so much "dating advice" for men that are struggling to attract women that at a glance seems helpful but is clandestinely sabotaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:37 PM
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Because he's treating women exactly like he treats men by not telling her he's romantically interested in her, not flirting, no sexuality, and not asking her on dates. Interacting with women differently than you do men is not treating women like humans and women don't like men that don't treat them like humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:33 PM
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I wouldn't call that women's advice I would call it left wing advice. Left wing men promote the same crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:35 AM
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Show us one popular feminist sub that doesn't exile the minority sects like terfs or individual feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 01:41 PM
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I smell a no true scotsman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 12:27 PM
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A very low percentage of people that say "but you need looks first" are physically unattractive to a point of futlity. The "women rarely settle for men they don't find physically attractive" isn't redundant truthism like fire is hot or ice is cold, it's an attempt to market their failure to attract women as a pure consequence of their unattractive looks and no reflection of their competence or ambition.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:52 AM
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Plenty of women dominant subs that don't block criticism of their ideologies this is more specific to feminism than women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:39 AM
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Then why are all feminist subs the ban all opposition types of subs and not the can't wait to refute incoming opposition types of subs? Reddit is a mix of echo chambers and melting pots (this sub being much more of a melting pot than an echo chamber)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:27 AM
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Yes and the changemyview subreddit. Sometimes every top comment is just a pedantic nitpick at some technicality that doesn't refute the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:22 AM
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It's cargo cult science authoritarianism. The 20th century clearly wasn't a good enough lesson on why it's terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:20 AM
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Are there any nontoxic feminist subs? I'm not trying to play gotcha I haven't searched dilligently for them but in my limited efforts to find them they are always very authoritarianist and don't welcome any challenges to their policies. By toxic I mean echo chamber that hates nuance and challenging established policies, which is the complete opposite of melting pot subs like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:14 AM
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Once again they are taking the "treat her just like you would a man" advice so they don't include sexuality and romance. The victims can't fathom how such a popular form of advice can secretly be a malicious strategy to sabotage men's efforts to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:10 AM
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If I propose a criticism of an ideology to either members of that ideology or allies with bluepill being an ally/sock puppet of feminism (antifeminist bluepillers make up a very very low percentage of bluepillers), I try to avoid giving them easy layups so any arguments that invalidate the criticism have to be strong arguments. Giving easy layups is a popular way to false flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:06 AM
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But why are they a sub that disallows criticism of it's ideology and not the type of sub that welcomes opposition and can't wait to refute it's opposition? All you did was say they do it that way because that's the way they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:53 AM
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You gave bluepill people easy things to refute instead of your question that claims feminist subs block criticism of their policies in your elaboration I just want to know why they can't advocate for men too? "Feminism supports men dumbass" What the reasoning behind blaming all men as being the abusive people, and rather obviously disregarding female adusors and predators when campaigning? "Nobody is blaming all men dumbass" Why so many feminists go after women in clearly happy but unorthodox re…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:48 AM
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Your question for the thread was good but you screwed up in your elaboration. Almost nobody will be answering your question and instead take the easy layups you gave them when you went more into detail
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:32 AM
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They don't want it to be their fault so they call it bad luck so they can avoid being incompetent (don't know how to be/aren't good at being attractive) or lazy (don't attempt to be attractive)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:15 AM
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Studies show that men who call themselves "incels" are actually a slightly left-leaning demographic: If they are a "slightly left-leaning demographic", then they are in a league of their own in terms of exiled and opposed "slightly left-leaning demographics" We don't need a no true scotsman person to defend incels we can see what they say in this sub and their many hideouts across the internet. They aren't these "innocent good boys down on their luck" that they try to market themselves as. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:52 AM
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Yes because how dare a woman not appeal to the male gaze and look fuckable for him 🤢🤮 Maybe if the dudes took accountability for what they're attracting, then he can attract what he actually wants Instead of men changing their behavior, women can just lower their standards. This way men can do whatever they want and still easily attract above average looking women And men need to stop being assholes to ladies and making everything about their weight, and looks, while also bitching thats its not …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:17 AM
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Sorry but "ugly" men are helpless victims that bear no responsibility for their failure to attract women so only society can fix their "problem"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:40 AM
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Nope men are all so desperate and bad at attracting women that they have to forgo any preferences and choose whoever will give them a chance instead of not being desperate (willing to choose single) and getting better at attracting women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:31 AM
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I had a girl send me a clear signal at uni about a year ago. I was at the front desk and she was next in line so when I backed away from the desk she started giggling at me while making eye contact then stood intentionally attractive and smiley while talking to the front desk. Most women in that situation would have thought "I'm the prize not him" and needed to wait for me to talk to her for the sake of her ego
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:51 AM
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Because she's following the "lower your standards/be more realistic" advice that is often given when somebody is struggling to find a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:48 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:22 AM
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Nope women have to lose weight and stop being so picky instead of men attracting the women they want
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:21 AM
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You tell them to work on their personality and you get told, "OH SO YOU'RE SAYING WOMEN ONLY CARE ABOUT PERSONALITY, WRONG, WOMEN ONLY WANT THE TOP 20% OF MEN." They don't want to attract women they want you to rescue their ego by telling them they bear no responsibility for failing to attract women. The reason they talk so condescendingly and dismissively is because they have fragility ego problems they don't want to acknowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:20 AM
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It's like saying men should be thankful or feel priveleged about how women will consistently let a man buy her things without needing to do much of anything to earn that "privelege" and then say "men should be grateful",
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:41 AM
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No men don't have "no standards" and "have to settle for anything except single" that's just loud incels drowning out the voices of the other 99% of men that aren't incels
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:27 AM
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It can be used to describe simping women but also be used as an attempt to insult women who are willing to criticize women or defend men like it's a war and you need to side with your allies and oppose your enemies. Kinda like bootlicker or house negro
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:58 AM
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The idea that women should be thankful for or feel priveleged about how men can be so needy and desperate that they'll take anything over nothing is completely wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:13 AM
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It does seem like women that struggle to attract the man they want are more likely to pick stay single over be more attractive when compared to men that struggle to attract the women they want. It's not an "option" for her if he wants her but she doesn't want him no differently than it's not an "option" for him if she wants him but he doesn't want her regardless of quantities or percentages. I often see incel like men argue whether women should think of it as "options" they should be "thankful" …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:01 AM
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Go on any feminist subreddit where they address how men can attract women and "treat her exactly like you would a guy" is very popular unopposed advice
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 11:27 PM
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Nope having no romance is not just a bit better than dying of starvation it's way better not even close
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:51 AM
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It means its inappropriate to equate it to something that kills you like starving
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:33 AM
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I agree but I also don't blame them for buying into the "approach her exactly like you would a guy" advice. This is a view that left wing/feminist people support in lockstep and double down when you present them the bad consequences and absence of good consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:47 AM
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But they are learning game. They are taking the "approach her like you would a guy" advice and she rightfully assumes he's just interested in a platonic nonromantic friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:30 PM
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Women wouldn't think he's "just looking for friends" if he didn't follow the "approach her just like you would a guy friend" advice
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:27 PM
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If men tried to stay friends with every woman they tried to pursue romance with, they would quickly run out of free time for a new friend. Everybody has a limit on how many friends they want and should never be criticized for not having as many friends as somebody else thinks they should. Enough with the men that may pursue romantic relationships are just trying to use women to masturbate with unlike the men that only pursue platonic nonromantic friendships
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:10 PM
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You don't die without a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 07:31 PM
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Whatever it is that attracts women I either don’t have or do wrong. Hence the point of the full inspection. We need to figure out if the wrong is bad game or the wrong is bad person. Autodismissing the idea that you can unintentionally be a bad person makes you a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:19 PM
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Yes it helps when you have something that sticks out especially if it didn't use to stick out as much
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:46 PM
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You have to present yourself for full inspection because its very common to see men do one of these things especially in this subreddit: Pretend they aren't doing the bad things that repel women that they know are bad. They keep doing the bad things because they want to be able to attract women while doing those bad things Don't consider the bad things they are doing to be bad and won't let anybody else tell them otherwise Aren't aware of the bad things they are doing like monopolizing the conve…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:44 PM
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They can't look around. Whenever somebody mentions how high a percentage of couples seen in person the man is average or below average they resort to flat earther like rebuttals. This is what happens when an ego problem is so bad they have to live in a fairy tale land to avoid being responsible for their failure to attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:39 PM
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If they start with that the response they get will be "It's not my physical shape or weight it's women are irrational and delusional"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:16 AM
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It's a problem when say women are so bad that just try to help themselves when men ask them for dating advice and it's ok to lie to women and deflect/red herring when somebody calls you out on your bullshit Go ahead and try to deflect/red herring again
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:01 AM
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Surely women are interested in men who do that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:18 AM
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Sorry but they think successful men are just attractive and don't cause their success and also think women don't understand what women like Hmm I wonder if any of that has to do with why they are so repulsive to women. Nope we should listen to their ad nauseum claim that it's "looks"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:06 AM
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"Women are so bad that when men ask women for dating advice they just try to help women instead of men" Not surprised to hear this from a guy that made a thread arguing you should lie to women and then doubling down when women explain how that hurts women. Do us a favor and leave women alone. You unapologetically don't care if you hurt them. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/18h004y/better_to_lie_to_women_than_be_honest/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:11 AM
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No the goal is not to hook up with thousands of women the goal is to find a relationship. What l meant was men that have trouble attracting women usually have tried hundreds or even thousands of women not 5 or 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:06 AM
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Are you really asking why don't women just be polygamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 01:15 AM
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What could a man do that causes him to consistently not have chemistry with women? Were not talking about a few women it can literally be thousands
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:34 PM
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No you read the title correctly I'm just mocking the incels. They must be mentally deficient since they can't catch the flaw with what I said and why that's very strong evidence the men that genuinely do that are repulsive to women, not "ugly" like he insists
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:52 PM
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But you're a woman so you don't understand what you or other women truly want in a man. It's us men that fail to attract women that get to overrule you on what you or other women want in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:37 PM
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Because its cargo cult science where women being too picky/not interested enough in relationships can only be what causes men to struggle, not those men failing to be good enough for women. It's the very popular blame the bad gender you don't like and exonerate the good gender you do like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:36 PM
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I've also noticed they talk about men failing to attract women the same way that feminists/left wing people talk about women not making enough money like it's simply impossible for it to be the sexless man/poor woman's fault. It must neccesarily be bad luck and to even question their culpablity in their demise is unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:30 PM
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Not to mention the ad nauseum claim with no evidence that this very specific and seemingly arbitrary category of men are struggling
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:24 PM
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Nobody has to "trap" themselves with somebody they don't like. This is an incel community exclusive idea. Its easy to find ugly men that are married/in a relationship is not looks don't matter so stop with the typical incel strawman tactics. We don't do that here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:10 PM
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Two things can be true at once
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:07 PM
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I suppose I could have asked if she knows that these passport bros countries are like how the US was before womens rights because there's some disconnect if she thinks passport bros aren't inherently exploitative. They aren't youtubers doing investigative journalism on women in other countries, they are sex starved tyrants looking for women that don't fight back.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:46 PM
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All the unattractive people seen in public with partners refute this ad nauseum incel garbage More of the "men that fail to attract women know that women are either lying or confused when women explain what they like"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:34 PM
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The people that insist their dating failures are external have ego problems and can't self criticize. A bad ego can put you in a fairy tale land where everything that doesn't go your way is somebody/something else's fault and it can be reinforced by people that pander.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:26 PM
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Try your look how cocky and smart I am for knowing I can't get laid and that women are bad people in this subreddit and get banned
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:22 PM
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The word loneliness is used to do a motte and bailey. The bailey (men not having as much sex as they would like with the women they want to have sex with) is much much less likely to invoke sympathy than the motte (men not having platonic friends)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 06:56 PM
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It's been argued that it validates the idea that women are for sale and that sex is the primary/most valuable thing women can offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:33 PM
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Not always which is why I said very limited
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:04 PM
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You spend your money on stupid things too just like everybody else
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:12 PM
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Do you think that women in the US were being exploited before women's rights? Because that's how passport bros countries are today and passport bros complain about women being too disobedient and oppositional. Looks more like sex trafficking than "reasonable women"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 02:00 PM
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In very limited cases she can have a very rare appearance that's so attractive it's worth spending a small amount of money for pg13 pictures and videos of her
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 01:44 PM
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Going to those countries that passport bros go to for women is like going back to the 1950s in the US to find a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 11:58 AM
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It's an attempt to validate the blackpill belief that women only want "chad" so they can avoid accountability for failing to attract women. They recently shutdown a subreddit because of too much of that type of content.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 06:09 AM
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Women only have multiple orgasms with "hot" guys sounds like incel cargo cult science bullshit like women only go on dates with unattractive men or women don't understand that they don't value personality
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:11 AM
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It's not but it will be the most common response watch
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:07 AM
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Whataboutism that deflects to a "men's issue", downplay the persistence/depravity of the orgasm gap, or both
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:59 AM
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Nope it's easy to find unattractive men with girlfriends/wives Inb4: tHeN hE mUsT bE bEtAbUx oR cUcKeD bY cHaD
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 12:45 AM
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And sometimes she can be attracted to you so it would be unimanginably stupid to think it must neccesarily fail if you try so never try to protect your ego by classifying failure as involuntary
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 12:35 AM
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Wow there's literally billions of more guys than this one you claim
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 12:34 AM
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It's very common on this sub. Often when men/redpill/manosphere are criticized somebody responds with wHaT aBoUt wOmEn to deflect criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:02 PM
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bUt Us MeN aRe MoRe ViRtUoUs tHaN yOu BeCaUsE wE hAvE lOwEr StAnDaRdS
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:22 AM
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The very high percentage of couples seen in public in which the man is not in the top 20% destroys the rediculous 80/20 incel claim. Only someone chronically online doing cargo cult science would fall for something rediculous like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:21 AM
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It's different because the girlfriend would turn off that unwanted attention if she could but men are obsessive and ad nauseum claim that women like how all the men stare and drool over women even when the man knows the woman is in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:17 AM
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Thinking there's this unicorn of a person out there waiting for you is immature I wouldn't call it immature rather whatever that term is where because you want something to be true, your brain tricks you into believing its true (you can easily find that unicorn and that unicorn will choose you over the very high percentage of your competition that is also holding out for that exact same unicorn)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:07 AM
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I agree. When I read that I had to take the eyes out of my head, rub them with cleaning cloth, and put them back in like a cartoon lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:58 AM
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Some men think women are all brainless misandrists that don't understand what they like/do and are only interested in men for what they can take or how they can treat men poorly. Its a classic example of sour grapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:42 AM
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Incels do a motte and bailey with everything. They don't just have disgusting views but they are too chickenshit to be clear with them to make them seem more defensible which is even less attractive than honest yet disgusting views.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 04:19 AM
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Lots of women like paying for dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:45 AM
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Yes because I'm supposed to want skinny women but prefer overweight and even obese pear or hourglass shaped women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:26 AM
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Tomato tomahto is what I meant
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:57 AM
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Best foot forward means efficacy =)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:38 AM
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Maybe during the time period before your ass got bigger
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:46 AM
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You seem to value efficacy in attracting women much more than a typical self proclaimed blue piller
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:33 AM
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I see the same flaw as with asking her to buy you dinner not because of money but because of delegating
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:10 AM
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Are man bbls a thing? Asking for a friend and hoping other people are interested in this topic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:08 AM
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It doesn't make you selfish or unconcerned with someone's feelings to decline a platonic friendship with them. It's not rent money when they are about to be evicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:30 AM
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Keep going and double down on women are irrational because their lack of sympathy is for men that are short/ugly/poor and not for terrible men that say women are irrational
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:18 PM
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Exactly. He's not just trying to use her as a masturbation tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:50 PM
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They aren't bothered by what bad things may happen to you as a consequence of them lying or doing something deceptive their only goal is to use you for masturbation. Then they cry and talk about unaliving (very common topic in incel hangouts) when no woman wants them and no woman feels sorry for their plight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:37 PM
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wHaTaBoUt BaD wOmEn
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:30 PM
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You're literally one of those men that say women are irrational (women think ugly/short/poor men are terrible and hot/tall/rich men are good) that women rightfully do not have sympathy for. Saying things like "women are delusional" or "women don't understand what they actually want" while also claiming that women's sympathy for a man is based on his appearance/status and not how good of a man he is among other things does make you a terrible man. Complaining about how you can't get away with tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:11 PM
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No I'm trying to illustrate the absurdity of the popular belief that if somebody is seeking romantic relationships and not interested in being non romantic platonic friends with every prospect they try that declines a romantic relationship, they are just looking for somebody to use as a masturbation tool. In other words, in order to not be looking for somebody to use as a masturbation tool, you must be platonic friends with every prospect that wants a platonic friendship but declines a romantic …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:06 PM
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Yeah because if you had a miracle cure, you wouldn't have to waste all the time that is wasted attempting to do something that is hard to do. Then the "because I want a miracle cure to exist, therefore it exists" trick results in people wasting even more time looking for that miracle cure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:43 PM
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That or many other reasons besides you were just trying to use them for masturbation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:22 PM
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Maybe redpillers are interested in sexual marketplace value or whatever other term could be used for how desirable you are to who you are interested in simply for the sake of appearing competent and not how to attract people. "Women don't care about how men tend to have less prospects interested in them" sounds much more blackpill/rule 6 than red pill but there's so much no true scotsman with these pills that anything could be anything at this point Doing something simply for the sake of appeari…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:02 PM
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They don't mean care as in show sympathy, they mean care as in lower their standards and/or be more interested in sex/relationships to fix the "problem" of men not having as much sex as they want with the women they want to have sex with. This is a classic motte and bailey where they advocate for something very objectionable (women lowering their standards and/or being more interested in sex/relationships to make it easier for men to find romance) then when somebody opposes their idea, they can …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:51 PM
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Sexual market value just means how desirable you are to who you are interested in. Its by nature incalculable and is very prone to being miscalculated. People who think they can easily attract a category that they cannot even somewhat attract is a good example of it being miscalculated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:43 PM
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Exactly. We shouldn't expect women to care about how terrible men with disgusting beliefs about women and try to make everything women say seem wrong/unreasonable/irrational cannot attract women. It makes sense why women and everybody else are glad that those terrible men cannot attract women. If those terrible men could attract women, then the women they attract would be in serious danger. We also shouldn't expect women to care about how when women reject a man, that results in him failing to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:30 PM
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I believe you I'm just trying to illustrate the absurdity behind "you are just trying to use them for masturbation if you are not interested in a non romantic platonic friendship with them". At a glance at least it doesn't seem like people are anywhere near as interested in finding more platonic friends as they are finding a romantic relationship. I think its similar to why people that are already in a relationship (have plenty of good friends) aren't looking for more (new friends).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:13 PM
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Why is that not enough? Because women are bad people so we need to prosecute them more. Women have "nothing to gain" from making sure their kids know who their dads are, making sure men that aren't the father don't have to take care of a child that isn't theirs, and making sure that a man that is the father does have to take care of his child. Women don't value any of these things because women bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:08 PM
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"I'm not accusing you of sleeping with somebody else, i'm just skeptical that your pregnancy was caused by me"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:01 PM
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Since you did not want to be friends with him after talks of a relationship failed, does that prove you were just trying to use him for masturbation?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:46 PM
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If you see no purpose of women other than a thing you can stick your dick in, this would make sense. No. People can have plenty of platonic friendships and be exclusively looking for a romantic relationship. Women too. This is like saying when a man goes on a dating app where women are looking for romantic relationships and not some app or place where women are not looking for romantic relationships rather platonic friendships, he's just simply trying to stick his dick into something, You're not…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:29 PM
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Then delete the comments that break the rules. It's literally every "debate" thread is a mutual masturbation echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:08 PM
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This thread is a good example of why sometimes I wonder if it's really an incel or its a misandrist doing a false flag operation to make men look like monsters
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:14 AM
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You should turnover debates into cmvs alot like it used to be done. The top replies in debates are much more agree/add to agreement than disagree and become echo chambers. In a CMV all the agree mutual masturbation either gets deleted for not challenging view or confined to the reply to automod space way below all the opposing statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:11 AM
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To be fair you do have extremely unusual standards in men so you seem to be much more of an anomaly than a standard
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:04 AM
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He doesn't want a solution he wants to make you sound wrong/unreasonable/irrational etc as a form of retaliation for women rejecting him. These kinds of men are very popular on here and aren't fooling anyone when they try to hide it behind something else like this. We can read their post history to confirm if they are a rule 6 man or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:02 AM
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It's not that it's hard to understand it's that they hate women to a point where they tell women not to decline men those women aren't interested in. They want to make women give them romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:53 AM
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Remember men who don't even try to have romance with women and are much more interested in opposing what women say than agreeing with women are notorious for doing terrible things like invalidating a woman's reason to wanna end a relationship with a partner that randomly accuses her of cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:23 AM
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Alot of the "lonely" men make it seem like they do nothing wrong and have low standards yet they'll either refer to bigger women as "landwhales" or support other men using disparaging hurtful terms that refer to bigger women. If they were honest and clarfied that they don't consider a high percentage of women as options and also do other horrible things like downplay/deflect when women's issues are mentioned, they wouldn't get the little sympathy they get by lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:52 AM
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At least in this subreddit it's nearing 100% because they almost always either have a heinous belief like almost no women claim they only go on dates with men they don't find attractive because she either doesn't understand what she wants or is lying, or the so called "good lonely men" don't contest these beliefs. Instead they upvote those heinous beliefs or they fight against the comments from women and non-lonley men opposing them If they don't want to be perceived as terrible men then they ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:31 AM
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Because studying for school and improving your game/rizz are two different things, they cannot share anything in common. It's similar to how lemons and limes can't both be sour because a lemon and a lime are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:18 AM
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Because its smart to believe you cannot possibly attract women and dumb to believe you can attract women. That's why I'm smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:16 AM
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The problem is how often those complaining men reveal their disgusting beliefs like when they say they aren't going to care about women being raped or victims of domestic assault when women don't care about men failing to find romance. Then instead of the "good lonely men" calling out that filth, the "good lonely men" upvote the comment and oppose the women that call out that filth. They are disgusting men and it is a good thing that women do not give them any chances and are not the "good lonel…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:11 AM
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Nope I've never tried to talk to women because I'm so smart that I know it can't possibly work and women are interested in a man that is smart enough to know he cannot attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:02 AM
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It's similar to how Karen isn't used to literally describe somebody named Karen or neckbeard isn't used to literally describe somebody with a neckbeard
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:40 AM
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Best way to explain it. Its like they think we can't go into or otherwise observe spaces where men identify as incel and observe their disgusting behavior and contrast that with a space like r/foreveralone. Then they try to negate the existence of the first space and tell us it's just the second space like they have the blue flash device from men in black.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:37 AM
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The animosity towards incels isn't because they are virgins, it's because they have terrible beliefs about women and are too fragile to stay composed with a lack of sex or relationships. Virgins are not incels. These attempts to mischarecterize opposition to misogynist narccisitic men with zero accountability as opposition to something much less reasonable to oppose like being a virgin are rediculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:00 AM
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You sound delightful
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:43 AM
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I appreciate how you understand and acknowledge that men who do not believe they bear responsibility in their failure to find sex or relationships exist and don't try to gaslight their existence away by calling it a "strawman". It says alot about someone's personality when they try to negate the existence of something as prevalent as men who insist their decisions have nothing to do with their failure to find sex or relationships with women. We're not talking about bigfoot or aliens lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:26 AM
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Counter-question: why do you ostensibly feel like you're not pathetic compared to this hypothetical pathetic man? You are here, participating in these discussions after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:51 PM
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What is it that makes you attracted to pathetic men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:10 AM
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What would be a possible nature of his arguments that would result in you willing to give him chance? I'm just basically curious what subtype of a man that spends alot of time explaining to people and arguing with them about how he bears no culpability in his failure to have relationships or sex with women you would be interested in and what subtypes you would not be interested in
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:10 AM
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So are you saying that the piece of information has nothing to do with why you aren't interested in him and the disinterest is only due to him being a stranger?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:07 AM
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What makes it super unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:06 AM
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2 very spherical boobs that press together, preferably about softball sized to probably no bigger than basketball sized. The difference between all the boobs in that range is small enough to call it all perfect. The size isn't as important as how spherical and pressed together they are
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:53 AM
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r/seduction is one of the more red pill/efficacy subs
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:31 AM
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I wonder if him telling women that they shouldn't be worried about being raped/killed and saying "bUt MeN tHo" when women speak on their hardships has anything to do with why no woman wants him? Nah, must be because he's not "Chad".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:14 PM
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Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:12 PM
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My point is women don't understand what's best for them which is why they don't understand that being able to have lots of sex with men they don't find attractive is a benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:05 AM
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Sorry but women don't get to decide what they want or what is beneficial for them. Men that never have sex or relationships with women get to tell women that having sex with men they do not find attractive is beneficial. Doing this has nothing to do with why these men that never have sex or relationships with women fail to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:39 PM
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For the same reason why women generally don't openly say they prefer white men even though the evidence supports it, because it would be controversial That may be an explanation for a low percentage but not zero percent. Above zero percent of women are willing to be honest even if it's controversial yet nobody can find one documented instance of a woman saying they only expect men they find unattractive to pay for a date. You aren't using that well, I am not using that statement "attractive men …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:17 AM
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Because you falsely claim other subreddits delete posts about dating expectations despite it being very easy to find other subreddits with posts about dating expectations, not because you have a "different" opinion. Show us more reasons why no woman wants you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:48 AM
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Yes you do need to. I can only find men agreeing with this claim and can't find a single woman that agrees with it. Literally every documented instance of a woman adressing this claim disagrees with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:36 AM
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Your post history literally justifies banning you for more reasons than this post. I can find posts about dating expectations across all dating related subs easily as can anybody else. So you're lying and wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:30 AM
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Obviously no woman is out here saying this Why not? attractive men generally have it easier in dating Motte and bailey
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:25 AM
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Do you have any examples of women claiming that they only go on dates with men they find unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:25 AM
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The men that complain about and ridicule women for being fat are disproportinately men that women do not want and are retaliating for being rejected. Men that have figured out how to consistently have the sex/relationships they want may prefer skinny women, but don't get salty and bash fat women. There's a major difference between fat women with flat asses and fat women with big asses in terms of how attractive men find them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:21 AM
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For your original claim before you edited it after I pointed out the flaw, do you have any examples of women stating that they only expect men that they find unattractive to pay for the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:09 AM
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Nope they allow it it's just not a home game where the people that support your despondent incel rhetoric outnumber the people that oppose it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:54 AM
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It reminds me of children whining because they aren't getting their way and adults might give children what they want to stop their whining. It's a very embarassing and futile way to accomplish a goal especially when they respond with a whataboutism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:46 AM
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I have no idea why people think a first date must be a meal and cannot be anything else. There's all kinds of reasonable ways for two people to get to know each other in person for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:40 AM
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Try asking this question on subs that aren't incel dominated and see if you get the same tendencies in the replies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:38 AM
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Based on women's complaints all the 'good men' are checking out or becoming passport bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:34 AM
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A "female delusion calculator" sounds like a sour grapes machine created by bitter incels
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:21 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:22 AM
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Nope you'll get alot of pushback from almost everybody but keep pretending its "soyboy neckbeards"
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 12:24 AM
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Yup it's a safe space for men that expose their horrible personalities and cry about how no woman wants them with their horrible personalties
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 12:22 AM
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Try posting your threads on purple pill or any other subreddit and see if they still get the same amount of support they do in this cargo cult science echo chamber
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 05:19 AM
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They would never because a reverse image search will reveal where they got the "screenshots" from
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:29 AM
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There is no proof and anybody that tries to duplicate the results will get something different. Go through OP post history and see if they are the type that will make up data to validate their beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:24 AM
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Outside of incel/blackpill echo chambers its very hard to find a black or hispanic man that has trouble with women
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:28 PM
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Staying in cargo cult science echo chambers where they outnumber people that disagree with them instead of taking their arguments anywhere else. There's a reason your opposition vastly outnumbers you outside of your cargo cult science echo chambers.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:27 PM
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Thank you for leaving women alone and not subjecting them to an interaction with a terrible person. Deflect about you being a terrible person plz.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:22 PM
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Deflection
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:20 PM
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Sour grapes when you can't figure out how to have sex 😭😭
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:20 PM
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Because people don't feel sorry for incels when they call women disparaging terms like "land whale" and say other heinous disgusting things about women. If you want people to help you then stop with the disrespect and stop deflecting when somebody calls you out for it. If you don't think anything can be done about it then of course nobody is going to want to help you. Nobody can help you if you don't think it's possible and argue against it.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:15 PM
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Cope with your sexlessness 🤣
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:11 PM
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But you can do it to "transmaxx" lol
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 08:53 PM
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They want to whine like feminine crybabies and tell us with supreme confidence how they know for a fact they can't do anything about it
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 08:51 PM
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Hey this is a cargo cult science echo chamber sub! No dissent!
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 07:44 PM
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Sorry but incels understand women better than women do because women are less intelligent so the reason she said that is because she doesn't understand that she does accept those behaviours from attractive men Why else would women be disintersted in man that overrules what women say they like ,other than his looks, height, or race?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 07:19 PM
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Therefore men should not always be able to get someone equally or even slightly less attractive. This is especially true if he has nothing good to say about women and doesn't think that belief or anything he does can be wrong. He would be abusive, downplay other abusive men, deflect when somebody else mentions abusive men, or all of the above.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 07:08 PM
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Nope they said flirting or hitting on somebody isn't automatically otherwise "harassment" if they aren't intersted in the person flirting or hitting on them. This is why they put "same" in quotes. Incels aren't trying to learn the real difference between flirting and harassment and echo chamber cargo cult science call the difference "looks" One specific example of a man "getting away with harassment"
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 06:58 PM
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Not when it conflicts with the other adult's consent. That other adult should be able to reject whoever they want even if this results in men failing to get somebody equally or even slightly less attractive than them. EDIT: Think about how bad of person someone is if they downvote a comment stating that an adult should be able to reject whoever they want even if that results in men failing to get somebody equally or even slightly less attractive than them.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 06:56 PM
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Show us examples of attractive men "getting away" with hitting, groping, assaulting, harassing, or otherwise doing something wrong to women. No cargo cult science echo chamber appeal to the stone bullshit. Actual video examples or testimony from the woman about that very specific situation where he "got away" with doing something "wrong".
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 06:47 PM
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Well first of all don't be somebody who doesn't stand up for themselves and makes fun of people who do. This is even more pathetic than just not standing up for yourself. That being said if you can dissociate with people that always disrespect you, do it. They don't deserve to benefit from you so don't give them the gift of friendship or association. If you can't dissociate with them or it's not worth dissociating like if they are a coworker, just match their energy. By match their energy I mean…
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 06:39 PM
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You must be "Chad" then
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 06:24 PM
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Nope normal people stand up for themselves when treated poorly instead of whining helplessly about it like a wimp
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 06:22 PM
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Nope it's not disingenous, it's nonexistent
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 06:19 PM
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Nope not blue pilled just trying to help the men on this sub have sex and relationships like me and not be a helpless crybaby like you but keep showing us how smart you are
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 06:12 PM
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They've tried and suffered consequences
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 05:58 PM
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He's just teasing them. Its the salty incels in this incel sub that make him a bad guy. They can't stand watching a man fraternize with the enemy I mean have fun with women
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 05:40 PM
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Its for dog whistles
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 05:37 PM
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He's having fun instead of whining when he sees other people having fun
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 05:30 PM
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Nope he's just not a terrible person that wants society to collapse
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 05:30 PM
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Also you aren't the type that complains when watching a video of people having fun
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 05:28 PM
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Nope not a bluepiller and my feelings aren't hurt like the incels are when they see women having fun with a man
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 05:26 PM
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OP capitalizes the ER in his name for that reason by his own admission. Way creepier than wanting a physically attractive partner.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 05:11 PM
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Women aren't really intelligent enough to evaluate and seek for personality. Very good now give us even more evidence as to why no women like you and why that's a good thing
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 04:46 PM
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Creepy is a very nice way to describe somebody who idolizes elliot rogers
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 04:40 PM
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That's what you think of when you watch this video? Tell us more about how you have a wonderful personality, aren't a bitter crybaby, and that women aren't disinterested in bitter crybabies
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 04:36 PM
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The first one is the exception to the rule similar to how the crybaby incels on this sub that have a problem with this video are the exception to the rule You wouldn't be saying this if it was an arrogant incel like elliot rogers. It's a karen mumbling under her breath when she sees people having fun
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 04:33 PM
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They aren't being dumb (in this case at least), they are strawmanning you to protect elliot rogers and insist those two things have nothing to do with why women don't like them
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 04:11 PM
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It went well they are smiling and having a good time. It's like you're a karen on a porch in a rocking chair that's mumbles angrily under her breath when she sees people having fun across the street.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 04:09 PM
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"yOuRe A wOmAn YoU dOn'T uNdErStAnD"
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 04:03 PM
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I'm sure if we asked people if women are not attracted to the men they go on dates with a meaningful percentage of the people polled will agree with you lol
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:54 PM
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Making a video where people are having fun about something negative that didn't occur in the video is whining and whining is the theme of this crybaby sub Keep whining
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:52 PM
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Your problem isn't with the 1 woman that's not having fun. You and every other incel in this thread have a problem with the guy and all the other women that are having fun. Don't try to sound pro woman all of a sudden.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:49 PM
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No I'm not kidding because they are clearly receptive to him. Hopefully you're kidding
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:44 PM
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Whine more about people having fun
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:42 PM
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Do you whine about a video with people having fun?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:42 PM
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If she’s physically attracted to him, she doesn’t force him to court her. She fucks him. I don't think it's competent mental gymnastics I think its cognitive disability. Flat earthers are more sensible than this
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:38 PM
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A man that incels are reluctant to criticize and insist that being reluctant to criticize elliot rogers has nothing to do with why no women want them
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:34 PM
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What is he doing wrong?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:30 PM
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Since he thinks a woman going on a date with a man proves she is not attracted to that man, his problems are much bigger than a persecution complex lmao
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:27 PM
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Says alot about your personality when you see people having fun and try to replace the fun with a farfetched hypothetical that's unfun
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:24 PM
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Good men that deserve women: Worried about OP romantically pursuing pre teen girls Bad men that hopefully never get a chance from women: Dismiss the possibility of OP pursuing pre teen girls/deflect from possibility of OP pursuing pre teen girls
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:09 PM
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Looks like people having fun at some kind of social event like a party or club To have a problem with this and frame this negatively says alot about your personality
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:03 PM
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I'm a guy and I agree with rope so you can't use the "women don't understand" ad hominem that infallicels love to use
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 02:33 PM
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Because they have terrible personalities that result in no women wanting them like retaliating when women have high standards
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 07:44 AM
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Us desperate men don't have as many options as we would like and us desperate men don't think women can comprehend just how desperate we are. Us desperate men believing that women don't understand us has nothing to do with why we don't have as many options as we would like Fixed it for you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 07:42 AM
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Yep you don't get to overrule what somebody claims they want in a partner because it conflicts with your beliefs about their gender
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 07:39 AM
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Run on sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:48 AM
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It's tough that men that pretend to actually like a woman for sex and characterize this action as something to that woman's benefit can't figure out why no woman wants them and why nobody wants to help them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:43 AM
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The high percentage of couples seen in public, that are couples with an average or below average looking man that's not 6 feet tall, doesn't have abs, nor a 6 figure income refute this rediculous incel claim
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:40 AM
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I think it's just that those men aren't listening. When a woman says "work out, get a productive hobby, build a personality that isn't toxic", tons of men get offended and sink deeper into their undateable behavior. Exactly. You see it all the time in this sub where women try to give dating advice and the very pretentious snobby talking men negate the advice and show us with supreme confidence how they know they can't do anything to get a date. This is why we have rule 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:31 AM
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They want to be told they are doing nothing wrong and absolved of responsibility for being incel
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:28 AM
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Speak for yourself as for what you find "better". I find big full figured women more attractive than skinny flat women, not because I can't pull skinny flat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:40 PM
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You are right. The only way somebody would think women consistently hold out for 8/10 guys is if they never go outside and never see how high a percentage of women with boyfriends/husbands are with average and below average men. The 8/10 along with the "likely sexual harrasment charge for attempting to talk to a woman" are made up to excuse their failure to have enjoyable romantic interactions with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:48 AM
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Can't trust somebody that thinks almost all women like meth fiends, alcoholics, openly misogynists, serial domestic abusers, and scoff at women's complaints about being imprisoned for abortions. Their sense of right and wrong is clearly flawed and its reasonable to assume they would do something horrible. Hopefully no woman gives you a chance until you have a good sense of right and wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:30 PM
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Ffs if those are not your less acceptable opinions then I'm terrified of what your less acceptable opinions are Anybody can go through your comment history like I did to see where you said those things so you can't hide your inexcusable, disgusting, heinous beliefs that stop women from giving you chances
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:16 PM
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Do you think the reason women don't want to give you any chances has anything to do with justifying when men don't care for women, blaming women for when dads are not good dads, calling women "landwhales", saying women and men cannot be friends, and saying women are too shallow to fall in love?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:13 PM
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How you think women can only detect when men have terrible beliefs about women if they wear a shirt explaining it puts you in the same boat as him
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:05 PM
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Those aren't actions of other men. Those are your statements
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:02 PM
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Do you think the reason women don't like you has anything to do with you believing a girlfriend and a hooker are the same, abortions only benefit women and benefit society less than helping men that get laid, saying women are very unlikely to tell you the truth, question what advantages there are to being a decent person, and that women don't actually love their partners? Ladies, I'd like to know your opinion about this too if you don't mind
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:00 PM
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Do you think the reason women don't like you has anything to do with justifying when men don't care for women, blaming women for when dads are not good dads, calling women "landwhales", saying women and men cannot be friends, and saying women are too shallow to fall in love? Ladies, I'd like to know your opinion about this as well if you don't mind
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:50 PM
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A bad man does something "good" then feels entitled to a thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:23 PM
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It's hard to trust somebody that thinks almost all women like meth fiends, alcoholics, openly misogynists, serial domestic abusers, and scoff at women's complaints about being imprisoned for abortions won't try something heinous Warning you that a woman with a gun will defend herself is not wishing that on you but I'm not surprised you try to misrepresent what I said, since you unapologetically misrepresent what women like Get some help
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:15 PM
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What do you think may improve it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:06 PM
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A bad man says he's being taken advantage of when he supposedly did something "good" for the sake of helping someone and the person they helped didn't say thank you, making it sound like the person they helped made the man do something for them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:01 PM
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Solid advice
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:49 PM
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You're still trying to whataboutism
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:48 PM
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In bold are the recent posts that are complaints of men, and aren't neccesarily women complaining but for arguments sake lets assume they are. Do the math and see if it's 90% Do men generally accept the social blueprint of men given to us by society and are happy about it? As a woman your best bet for finding a pleasant male partner is making sure he was your friend first Tell me about the weirdest way you have ever got a date How is misandry different from other forms of biogtry in a way that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:45 PM
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The reason women don't like you is you think almost all women like meth fiends, alcoholics, openly misogynists, serial domestic abusers, and scoff at women's complaints about being imprisoned for abortions. As long as you don't think any of that is wrong is as long as you deserve to have no success with women and I hope no woman gives you a chance out of fear for her safety. Your autism doesn't excuse this either. Get some help and stay away from women until you denounce these horrible views bef…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:33 PM
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https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Red-Herring
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:13 PM
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If you asked women, what percentage of them do you think would say they like meth fiends, alcoholics, openly misogynist, and serial domestic violence abusers and if you think its a low percentage, what is it about women that results in them failing to understand that they like those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:57 PM
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Then why complain about something that can't change? Why not let it be water under the bridge?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:51 PM
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A good man does something good for the sake of helping someone without caring whether he is thanked for it A bad man does something "good" then feels entitled to a thank you A terrible man does something "good" then makes a reddit post complaining about how they weren't thanked He has buy a woman dinner then yell at her when she says no to sex written all over him
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:29 PM
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"wHy DiD sHe DiVoRcE hIm? WoMeN lIkE sEx!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:21 PM
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Yes they should because they wouldn't have that problem if women stopped pursuing the men those women want to pursue and instead pursued the men that complain about not having a partner and don't put effort into themselves or others Women need to stop being so picky and give men they don't find physically attractive, men that don't put much of any effort into being what women currently want, men that downplay the prevalence and impact of violence against women, and men that downplay the depravit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:19 PM
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https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Hedging
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:10 PM
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When I was in high school and college I couldn't get anything. At first I thought it was inate like incels/blackpill do until I tried applying meta to dating like I would video games and made some changes that fixed the problem. What I found was called game and not redpill and also was detached from the manosphere/conservatism Maintaining a good appearance when interacting with women or interacting with men that I could possibly meet women through Playing/flirting with women in a way that's fun …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:08 PM
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Also the reason women say they don't like physically attractive serial killers is because they don't understand what they like. Men, especially men that never socialize with women, get to tell women that they like physically attractive serial killers and claim him doing that has nothing to do with why no woman wants him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:43 PM
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Most woman, or for that matter, most people find them dangerous and creepy. Sorry but they get to tell women that women like serial killers and if women disagree they get to overrule women on what women say they like
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:37 PM
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"yOu wOuLd Be fUcKiNg hIm iF cHaD dId ThAt"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:26 PM
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If you ask women if Ted Bundy, a man that mudered his pregnant wife and two kids, and a man that murdered 4 people are attractive a very high percentage of them will say no but I'm sure you'll tell the women that say no that those women don't understand what they are attracted to Do women like men that make the case for women being interested in serial killers? I'm sure you'll tell us that when they don't it's only when he is unattractive and if a woman disagrees its also because she doesn't und…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:24 PM
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Respectfully, someone who thinks women don't think men deserve basic human decency, doesn't think living with their parents has any adverse effect on their dating life, and doesn't have any female friends doesn't have room to criticize others for their comments
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:04 PM
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They don't want solutions they want to confidently show us how smart they are for knowing they can't have sex with a condescending pretentious attitude
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 03:55 PM
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Sure he would and unfortunately it's hard to find men on this sub that believe women when they claim they still wouldn't like that behavior if Chad was doing it. They think they can overrule what women say they want then wonder why women aren't interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:49 PM
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"yOu wOuLd Be fUcKiNg hIm iF cHaD dId ThAt"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:16 PM
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In the first video he asks if the chair is taken then sits down in it despite the clearly fearful body language and he only backs off after she tells him she's on live stream and a bystander says that she's her niece. This failure to detect fault with what he does here is exactly why so many men on this sub can't find women that want to date or have sex with them. Women can easily tell if a man is the type to think nothing wrong happened in the video and are understandably repulsed by it. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:14 PM
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So is OP and that's why he's trying to defend his kind
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:44 PM
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He is a creep The 18-year-old was livestreaming outside next to a pool when the strange man between 25 and 30 approached and asked if another chair at her table was taken When she replied that it was free and he could 'take' it, the man surprised her by sitting down next to her and attempting to start a conversation The teen is very clearly uncomfortable throughout the interaction and even tells him that she didn't mean he could sit there The man ignores her pushback and discomfort and continues…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:43 PM
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That wasn't anything close to a "near meltdown" and where are these "news headlines" calling him a creep?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:28 PM
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Yes. It's easy to find horror stories of women being approached at events and everywhere else by creepy men with no social calibration. They talk it about it in this sub frequently in the question for women posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:40 PM
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Hmm I wonder if their comment history will give us any clues as to why every woman they meet finds them repulsive? Maybe it has to do with how they intentionally misrepresent what people say to invalidate it, consistently talk sarcastically and condescendingly, claim women are lying when they say they socialize with average and below average looking men, and say rediculous things that almost nobody agrees with like A 6.4 guy with Channing Tatum level of looks will sleep with an ugly, short, over…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 10:50 AM
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If online dating doesn't work for you, what can work?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 10:28 AM
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I appreciate you taking the time to provide useful advice but unfortunately it falls on deaf ears. They autodismiss every solution because they don't want to take responsibility for their problem. They need to frame their failure to have relationships/sex with women as a consequence of bad luck to protect their fragile egos from the pain that comes from incompetency. By incompetency I mean making decisions that are ineffective at accomplishing a goal which in this case is having relationships/se…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 10:23 AM
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It would need undercover women bouncers that pose as singles and try to catch the incel men that rolled out of bed into random clothes without showering or putting on deoderant, then try to force women to talk to them and ask inappropriate and offensive sexual questions. If you don't do a good job at keeping those kinds of men out of the events women will stop going to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 10:09 AM
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Since the only possible explanation for why I'm trying and failing to have enjoyable romantic interactions with women is looks, then I must neccesarily be ugly
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 04:54 AM
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The men that will have sex with any woman are by far the exception not the rule that's two misses in a row now
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:55 AM
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In the time it takes to get society to fix the "problem" with the men that aren't having as much sex/relationships as they would like with the women they would like, the men could have done way way more to help themselves. This is why the burden is on the men with the "problem" and not on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:38 AM
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The men that are only interested in women in their social groups are the exception not the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:00 AM
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Am man and I agree as well. I don't have to sleep with every attractive woman that wants to sleep with me. I can say no if I don't like how she acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:51 AM
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Monogamy is already the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:57 PM
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The difference is in telling somebody they have more money than they need vs telling somebody their standards for a partner are higher than they need to be
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:32 PM
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Oh well I didn't read op's idea but since Ace said guys plural I thought they were addressing the responses in general and not just op. Yeah the idea to hide somebody after too many likes sounds bad and sounds like op thinks women will settle for less if what they want is blocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:26 PM
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We appreciate your constructive input and useful idea
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:19 PM
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I thought you were correct and looked for data on this and you are correct but its not that big of a difference ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:16 PM
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No its how to make a dating app that would steal the customers/users of the notoriously bad existing dating apps. Communism would be having the state operate the dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:06 PM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:52 PM
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An abortion, foster home, or lack of a father's support for a child is worse than the father of a child having to support their child for 18 years. I know you disagree which is why everybody hopes you never have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:49 PM
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Its more reasonable to ask fathers to take care of their kids than to ask women to get an abortion because the father doesn't care how much their lack of support hurts their child
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:39 PM
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Looks here trump everything else, after that personality becomes a thing that matters. How did you measure this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:33 PM
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It's hurts children when their parents don't support them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:29 PM
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Feed the less desirable men to the less desirable women. Those women are only holding out for "chad" in echo chamber cargo cult science land.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:23 PM
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Yes and while its impossible to eradicate left swipes women should be shown as few profiles of men they would left swipe on as possible so they don't get discouraged by lots of junk
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:20 PM
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I'd have a bot look for unwanted dick pics and other unreported disrespectful messages that men send to women which discourages women from using dating apps to suspend or ban the men that do that. Only once a meaningful percentage of men don't use dating apps because of disrespectful messages from women will I make a bot to catch the inverse I don't know how practical it would be but ideally I'd want to suspend and for repeat offenders ban by device so people that scam or are disrespectful can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:16 PM
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Oh I get it I'm just disappointed that you would rather help them than destroy them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:31 AM
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That's exactly what they want you to do. Stay quiet like a good girl and stop challenging or attempting to refute their claims
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:02 AM
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They must be dating imposters apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:28 AM
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That the high percentage of women in public that are with a boyfriend/husband, are with average and below average looking men is a myth. Some people inadvertently reveal that they never touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:24 AM
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And by doing that give them easy rebuttals
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:09 AM
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The rule 9 people that infest this sub and aren't trying to fix their problem and just whine about it are blackpill. Red pill while it certainly has some objectionable beliefs will talk about what a man can do to have enjoyable romantic interactions with women without it being sarcastic like "jUsT lOoK gOoD"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:01 AM
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Just in case you or anybody else doesn't know, r/allpilldebate is effectively a blackpill/incel sub. If you don't believe me go on to that sub and look at what threads and comments get upvoted, especially what comments get downvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:47 AM
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For the rule 9 people they are too fragile to handle criticism so to avoid internal destruction they have to deflect. The funniest part is how they are usually the most outspoken about "women's accountability" or use special words that only the rule 9 people use like "hypoagency"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:23 AM
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The rule 9 people are too fragile and therefore find it "humiliating" to date so having a relationship with a bot to protect their fragility is somehow not humiliating lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:20 AM
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Funny how I never said all men that treat women well wll be in a relationship and how you and the other guy think saying that ai gfs are a way for men to have a "girlfriend" without having to treat women well means all men that treat women well will be in a relationship Reading comprehension is hard for the rule 9 people
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:16 AM
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Nope saying that ai girlfriends are a way for terrible men to have a "girlfriend" without having to treat women well is not saying all men that treat women well have a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:30 AM
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Exactly. No matter how terrible of a man you are or how poorly you treat women an ai girlfriend can be programmed to do whatever you want. Its a solution for men who refuse to treat women well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:34 AM
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Also the incels don't want to invalidate their claim that they can't have enjoyable romantic interactions with women more than they want to have enjoyable romantic interactions with women so no advice will work on them
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 02:58 AM
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Not the very smart men that are very confident about how sex will never happen to them because they are below the 20th percentile in looks. They proudly boast about how they'll never get any
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:11 AM
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Yeah they're only more likely to be killed or sexually assaulted in a relationship than men are it's not worse at all
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:25 AM
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It's like flat earthers that just repeat but the earth is flat as a response to any argument against their claim
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:23 AM
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2-3 might be a little low but its alot lower than what the incel cargo cult science echo chamber tries to make it sound like. A low percentage of men are these pathetic bottom feeders that will take anything over nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:52 AM
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Most men have to settle for whatever gives them a chance is an incel statistic. Outside of the incel echo chamber men choose better women over worse women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:45 AM
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I wouldn't consider men are so lonely and no one likes them to be red pill. That's black pill
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:37 AM
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I appreciate you trying to lace up the incels with knowledge but unfortunately they are too fragile to handle accountability and will dismiss everything you say with circular reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:36 AM
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Hardly anybody conflates the two. The average virgin or average guy that struggles with women does not support the heinous content found in incel circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:32 AM
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Incel statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:27 AM
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This is normal in this sub. There's alot of guys that try to blame their failure to find enjoyable romantic interactions with women on something out of their control like looks to negate the incompetency and/or lack of effort that comes with failing an achievable goal. They don't want women they want to avoid accountability, and are the first to complain about "women not having accountability"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:26 AM
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This is especially weird when most dudes settle on any woman they can get Speak for yourself when talking about desperate men and leave us non desperate men that choose better women over worse women out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:20 AM
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Not neccesarily so be more specific
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:13 AM
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How do you talk to the women at these places?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:08 PM
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Sorry but the incels understand what you like better than you do and are going to tell you that you enjoy all of these things when "attractive" men do them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:55 AM
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When incels go full mask off lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:44 AM
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They last all the time. Relationships in which neither partner is requiring their other partner to buy them things they would ordinarily have to pay for with their own money are common. Prostitution in which a partner is selling a "relationship" for things they would ordinarily have to buy with their own money is common too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:41 PM
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To be so confident after 50+ years of experience that a woman giving out face ratings must neccesarily be nefarious says alot about how you view women. Everybody outside of a cargo cult science echo chamber that doesn't try to disprove or delimit their hypothesis knows that good looking men also get rejected left and right.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 01:23 PM
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Red herring fallacy. Those bottom 80% men's girlfriends apparently wanted to be approached by them so your claim that women don't want to be approached by sub 80% men is patently false. Inb4 another red herring or hedging.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:38 PM
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They don't want to provide evidence that can refute their claim that their failure to find romantic interactions with women is not their fault. They have too fragile of an ego to handle blame for their problem. I appreciate you trying to help them but they don't want help they only want to wallow in pity.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 12:22 PM
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But she's not using you for free room and board, it's romance and being a man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:01 PM
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And only because women weren't allowed to work
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:55 AM
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Those bottom 80% of men I see with women all the time when I go out and about must be sugar daddies, a family member, a platonic friend, my imagination, or all of the above
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:41 AM
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They instead imagine what it must be like, creepy guy blocking her path as she's busy trying to get somewhere, won't take no for an answer This is because a bad cold approach is far far more documented than a good one. I understand why that's what they think of first when they think of a cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:38 AM
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Not all women are prostitutes that require you to buy them things they would ordinarily have to pay for with their own money as a condition of having a "relationship" with them. I and many other men have relationships with girlfriends that buy their own stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:35 AM
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Women define cold approach the same way the non forbidden people men define cold approach as an approach at a place that's not normal for men to approach women, not an approach involving a man they don't find attractive. That's the forbidden people's definition. Can you read what women say about cold approach or do you only read the forbidden people's content?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:27 AM
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Only the forbidden people who's content isn't welcome here think women only oppose or have reservations towards an approach when the man is unattractive. I'm sure it will be easy to find women that agree with you or in the event that women don't agree with you it's because they don't understand themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:21 AM
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A prostitute is selling you romance in exchange for resources. A girlfriend/wife actually likes you and doesn't require you to pay for the "romance" with resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:13 AM
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Yeah ask any woman if its only a cold approach when she rejects him and she'll agree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:10 AM
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If she was perfectly capable of making her own money and doing her own chores but required him to do her chores for her as a condition of a relationship yes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:04 AM
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That would mean either every relationship started with a very controversial action or your statement is false
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:01 AM
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It's dumb to post yourself anywhere because you can only count on your fellow incels to reinforce the claim that you are ugly and therefore not at fault for your failure to find enjoyable romantic interactions with women
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 10:46 AM
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I have to try grannymaxxing and fail in order to remain incel. Can't say i'm involuntarily celibate if I voluntarily decline sex
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 10:31 AM
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Can't blame them for picturing a cold approach as more of the horror stories and less of the success stories. It's far far more common to see a cold approach be described as the former over the latter. Women have much less of an objection to approaching when you are there with her for some unique interest like a hobby or mutual friends so the issue is with it being cold
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 10:11 AM
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The 2nd option Prostitutes aren't girlfriends or wives
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 09:57 AM
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Anything is possible when you "coincidentally" move to countries where human trafficking is much more pervasive specifically to "find women"
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 11:40 AM
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Not if you don't touch grass and never see the endless number of average and below average looking men with girlfriends/wives in real life Please reply with your cargo cult science about how every below average and average looking man with a girlfriend is either a rich cuck that's purchasing her like she's a prostitute or being cheated on
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 10:50 AM
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How about a youtube video where they ask women about height?
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 10:46 AM
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If the advantage that white men have in a country that has been ruled by white men since its inception in dating is enough to convince you that you must die a virgin then you need to work on your confidence Please reply with a scoffing dismissive quote like "Just be confident bro" and show us how confident you are about how you can't get laid lol
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 10:35 AM
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Hmm I wonder why incels love these "passport bro" countries where human trafficking is much more pervasive so much
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:29 AM
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Correct they are blackpill/incel and desperately try to negate their culpability in their failure to find enjoyable romantic interactions with women to protect their fragile ego
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:27 AM
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Yes if you do cargo cult science
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 03:51 AM
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Yet men continue to have whatever standards they want and don't listen to people that aren't trying to help them
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 02:56 AM
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Being doomed to celibacy because you aren't white is only real to cargo cult science people that have never socialized with black or hispanic men. If you told black and/or hispanic men that crap they would laugh and assume you are being facetious then get deer in the headlights looks once they realize you are serious
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 01:58 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:29 AM
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What makes you say you are a 3/10?
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 02:32 AM
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Nope they don't have to settle for gold diggers that cheat on them and it's very easy to find endless examples you just have to leave the blackpill cargo cult science club
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 12:18 PM
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