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Of course but that doesn't mean you have loads of options when most you're not compatible with. That’s a bold assumption on your part. And so my original point that if she finds someone like that and she uses the "lives at home" as a dealbreaker then she is a fool. And my point is that she has the amount of compatible options necessary for considering to choose that filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:42 AM
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Pretty sure you’d be the one shocked and unable to move as I have my way with you 😈
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:34 AM
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I would, but unfortunately it’s expected to arrive after gen z dies off
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:26 AM
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Moving the goalposts I see. Even then, more matches = more probability of finding someone compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:25 AM
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It’s literally in the name…social welfare lmao, and communism =/= socialism. The European union is more socialist leaning than the US, and it’s quality of life is better in literally every metric
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:24 AM
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https://youtu.be/EFnJMPQow7A?si=BYkBsHQjhTzmDVU3 This is a brilliant video done by FaceandLms (the og blackpiller, not the current doomer type), and he’s got some dark humor going on that would fit the theme you’re about to learn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:21 AM
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What was the feedback like? Did you improve anything at all? I could go and approach a hundred women at my college campus in a day with zero improvement for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:18 AM
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It seems like a situation of low quality of matches and lack of matches. Try learning pickup
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:28 PM
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Use photofeeler online. If your pics get a consistent 8+ on attractiveness scale by women 18~24 then yes you’re attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:27 PM
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I also don't want to date most girls I go on tinder dates with. Why would you wanna go on a date with someone you don’t wanna date? That seems stupid by any metric
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:46 PM
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I’m not that active on reddit unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:44 PM
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(I have been told I am attractive but i do not think im a chad) If you’re able to get sex consistently from 7+ women then yes you are one
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:43 PM
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A Chad is an 8 plus. Physical attraction is non negotiable, but that doesn’t mean only Chads get to have sex….there’s plenty of rich betabuxxers as well that get some poon Although you gotta keep in mind that an average woman aka a 5 is technically obese in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:16 PM
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I was thinking since I went on 25 first dates in year as a guy, 100 isn’t that bad from a girl’s perspective until I realized that it was her doing all the rejecting despite matching with them initially….like something is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:15 PM
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I’m saving up money to mod my face and win the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:13 PM
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A 10 would be a movie star/supermodel level girl. I’d say most Chads can get girls at or below their level
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:12 PM
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Literally every blackpill channel online has an example of what a attractive male according to the female gaze is. They all look like the same person so it’s easy to tell how they’ll look like
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:10 PM
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I guess it’s the blackjack equivalent of gambling where you eventually get so good at counting cards that they’re forced to kick you out (but irl Chads can get away with it)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:08 PM
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It’s basically a better deal for the Chad as he gets relationship level benefits for an fwb level commitment. What’s not to like?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:06 PM
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You are more likely to be misogynistic if women worship the ground you walk on rather than the opposite that women love to assume aka “you must be a misogynistic incel, that’s why you can’t get laid”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:03 PM
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They do, there’s plenty of tinder and bumble experiments proving so. It’s pretty easy to look it up as well or even do one yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:01 PM
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Women only match with men they are attracted to online, compatibility would just be a numbers game for her
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:42 PM
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Hey there’s plenty of factors not in our control that women judge men on already, like height, dick size, hairline, jawline etc. this is just adding one more to that list
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:39 PM
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They do lol, all they need is to create a basic dating profile online
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:31 PM
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But the cost is the lack of independence and personal space, and the cultivation of self sufficiency skills from living on your own. Then you face the real lack of independence as you won’t be able to own a house in your 30’s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:30 PM
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Link to the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:25 PM
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I don’t think women are gonna vote for the government picking them to be some basement dweller’s bangmaid. But government sponsored AI sexbots on the other hand, that is something they could be convinced to vote on with the right propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:24 PM
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Plenty of porn girls are actually average. Now if you compare them to a landwhale, of course they’re gonna look hot by comparison. But compared to a highschool movie girl next door actress? Not even close. The fact that most people here consider porn girls to be the definition of hot speaks to the obesity rates
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:21 PM
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A socialist one, paid for by the people’s taxes. Just like social security is preventing millions of old people from becoming homeless and starve. The idea of social security isn’t capitalist
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:19 PM
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Cuz they want that life insurance policy obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:14 PM
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Alright we can use moths then
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:09 PM
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I grew up in a third world country and know exactly how these women feel about white foreigners, especially men. Really? I find that hard to believe when you keep referring to these strong financially independent and educated women marrying foreigners as prostitution’
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:35 PM
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Why feel resentful? It reminds them of their own inadequacies in being unable to obtain a higher n count despite wanting to
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:40 PM
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But it is still ‘some’ compare to the vast majority of the world…..making it an outlier
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:29 PM
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It does make sense, when she is overwhelmed by options. There’s studies done on customer preferences in grocery stores where they had a lot of brands for a specific product vs having 3~4. The customers were willing to try out new ones when presented with only the 3~4 options but not in the other case. Also, you’re seeing this with the perspective of a guy. As a girl, literally every swipe you do would be a match. With that many options, no wonder women will choose to filter over the slightest im…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:19 PM
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Being overwhelmed by options makes one more picky, to the point that it is detrimental for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:04 PM
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Or just use chatGPT and ask it for conversation prompts, or ask it how a well adjusted adult on a dating app would answer lol. It's also not that hard. If it wasn’t hard there wouldn’t be entire businesses built on educating men about how to text in a way that riles up her emotions and makes you stand out of the crowd of the other hundreds of matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:51 PM
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Maybe back when you needed a $1000 camera to take decent photos. Today all you need is a phone, a decent shirt and a friend who can take some pictures of you. Yes and no. Phones have improved greatly but it’s not enough to truly show your face due to the focal distortion of the tiny phone lens. Your face looks 10x better with a portrait camera than a phone camera for example. Also, the pose, facial expression and angles are super important…a professional who specializes in dating app portfolios …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:49 PM
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I would argue that skill required to acquire dating app worthy stellar photos and text game itself takes 8 months to a year. Getting which makes you no longer an average guy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:40 PM
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How about The ok cupid study?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:38 PM
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Yeah, if they have stellar photos and knowledge on how to use text game. Getting those women to sleep with them is another story
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:03 PM
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Two first dates a month? Unless you’re getting them to sleep with you after, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:24 PM
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Anything more than getting 2 sex partners into your rotation per month.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:00 PM
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Hey, just a quick tip….if you’re having success on Bumble and Hinge, you are not average looking. There’s terms called the male and female gaze, which can change your perception on how a gender sees you as attractive or not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:55 PM
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None of that is gatekeeping or gaslighting. 😆 Case in point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:51 PM
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What exactly am I gaslighting? What am I gatekeeping? “Girl bosses are happy not being approached by 100% of 18-25 year olds.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:44 PM
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But most are single, sexlessness aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:15 PM
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Technically the looks standards for dating apps are higher than cold approaches
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:13 PM
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Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:13 PM
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Stop virtue signalling
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:12 PM
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Until the sex Robots replace them that is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:09 PM
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It’s not, it’s pretty common now with women having the ability to swipe chads off of tinder. Besides, you only have a 5% success rate as a beginner anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:05 PM
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You can train yourself to become apathetic to women and their rejections. It’s like being in the military, at some point you’re going to become numb to the death and destruction around you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:04 PM
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Obviously I’m talking about men aged 18~30, where this problem exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:47 PM
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Basically no one seriously makes fun of a shorter woman being with a taller man if you compare it to the amount of bullying shorter men get in general, and especially when they get with a taller woman. A rebuttal would be to address this by saying fems don’t care about butch’s height but you did the exact opposite confirming that having a big height difference matters and is expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:43 PM
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What has that got anything to do with dating success rate for younger guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:37 PM
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We're not talking about the average man, who is in a relationship. He isn’t. You haven’t checked the stats yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:30 PM
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They’re practicing the same hYPerGaMy red pilled dudes bitch about, only this time they think they’re benefiting so these women are benevolent, all the while they treat and view the men in their own countries the same way, women treat mediocrity passport bros in their home countries Even if that were true, (it isn’t) it’s still a better deal than an average western woman offers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:28 PM
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Not ANY country obviously, but definitely countries where the dollar is valued at 20x or more than the local currency
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:26 PM
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The obesity epidemic is still relegated to the americas the some parts of europe and Australia. Aka still a western problem
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:24 PM
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It’s alright. I can see you’re not willing to change your opinion despite mentioning how shit the average guy’s dating success rate is and proceed to blame it on his lack of ‘trying harder’. As expected from a bluepilled woman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:53 PM
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20% of men are obese, 60% are overweight. 39% of women are OBESE, over 70% overweight. Hm, either the math ain’t mathing or the men seem to want to lose weight more
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:49 PM
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Also, most men are also overweight and or obese. It’s not like the men are walking around buff. Your own study proves you wrong lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:56 PM
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unless by asking them out you mean sexual assault. I think it’s done to death here about how women can turn normal approaching into sexual assault if the guy doing it happens to be unattractive. No point discussing it further as it’s a well established fact at this point. I bet the vast majority of these men haven't even asked enough women (i.e. ten) for 30% to make sense. It depends. Even if one asks out 10 women or a 100 that he finds attractive, there’s no guarantee that even one would be att…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:44 PM
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No, my point was that your argument that she is western is completely wrong. Nope, my point was the western idea that she’s a “healthy” weight is wrong. You showing me the picture of a clearly obese woman from another country doesn’t negate from the fact that her own countrymen if they have any standards unlike their western loser counterparts, will call her for what she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:33 PM
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I know it’s not gonna hold up in court as a viable form of self defense but I believe in the concept of an eye for an eye in this situation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:38 AM
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Depends on where she hits him, and if there’s a weapon involved. Any weapon involved against an unarmed man is an equalizer and thus should be dealt with extreme prejudice. But for raw physical fights, we gotta keep in mind that even an average weak man is stronger than the typical average strong independent woman™️ If she’s attacking him with her bare body though, it depends on where: if she’s going for the balls or the eyes then you could use full force, but if it’s anything regular like a suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:32 AM
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most were hooking up with multiple guys Chads/month
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:23 AM
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And your point was? That men everywhere should accept obesity like their American loser counterparts?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:17 AM
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Sometimes they made a weak attempt like once, usually they never tried at all or did in fact succeed but are just single right now. They often just assume they couldn't succeed or don't like women on their level. This is not at all true. Even if it was, the kind of rejection one gets if he’s bottom of the barrel (aka ew/ I’m calling the cops!) is monumentally different to an above average guy (aka aww I have a boyfriend). There’s a saying that you’d need at least 30% return rate on your investme…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:14 AM
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I can see tinder/bumble if you got the looks but which social circle are you referring to? The club girl scene? Or concerts?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:10 AM
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All that paragraph only to realize I was right
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:09 AM
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Depends on if you’re the fem or the butch
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:50 AM
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Where are you finding these 1% women? FeeID?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:41 AM
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I’ve had my own mom tell me whenever I argue logically she feels like she was being slapped in the face. I never understood why but I do now
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:38 AM
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This is what birthed the fat acceptance movement
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:32 AM
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The bar is in hell for western women yet they still manage to fumble the bag
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:25 AM
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Go ahead, tell a woman that has fucked women, what's so different That those are the preferences of straight women, for starters
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:21 AM
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What are your stats I may ask? Circumferences of Biceps, forearms, quads and calves, neck, and waistline. As well as no of packs if you have visible abs. Like showing off your abs is one thing of fit and women coming over to squeeze your bicep is something else altogether
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:15 AM
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And that number got lower over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:05 AM
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She is one though. If she goes to asia or Europe (like france, netherlands etc), people will openly call her fat
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:02 AM
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Cuz his average income in dollars becomes 3x to 10x more than the average income of local guys in those countries. So sustainability isn’t an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:00 AM
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They see the same mediocrity western women see, they’re just hungry and willing to close their eyes and take mediocre dick for a better life or $$$ I thought you said passport bros were broke? So why would an educated and financially independent woman from a 3rd world country choose a supposedly broke passport bro? Is it because of his money and ability to provide a better life when he himself plans to stay in HER home country or is it because she isn’t a narcissistic materialist who only cares …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:59 AM
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How’s it incorrect when there’s an entire internet group of men having similar experiences coming up with the same solution of moving countries
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:48 PM
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Nor do my younger female friends seem to see any new benefits nor does there seem much evidence or reason for this serious change you seem to claim. Uh, the evidence being that over 60% of men are single and sexless? Lemme guess, the men are to be blamed for the women’s ever increasing standards
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:46 PM
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Of course you would, their specialty is turning that no to a yes as soon as possible. I’ve seen even the most ardent sex after marriage only types melt with their actions
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:44 PM
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The point was criticism isn’t being hateful 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:41 PM
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They are consistent if he expects her to get dickmatized and become exclusive to him lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:34 PM
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My husband doesn't bitch about women to me, as that would be very bad behavior, but he and I agree that the economy here is shit Pretty sure he wouldn’t become anyone’s husband if he did lol. But the economy isn’t cause of the problem if that’s what you’re hinting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:31 PM
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There are many types of women here. Yes, but from a previous generation. They have no idea how much dating has changed in the past 10 years nor are they willing to acknowledge it as they are the beneficiaries in this culture shift. Guys into pickup want easy things. Good for them, but I'm not judging myself or my fellow women by those standards. It’s a marketing tactic of pickup sure, but the intention isn’t to go after ‘easy women’, that can be done by just lowering your own standards and datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:28 PM
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It could be offensive and it could be wrong, but it is common
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:21 PM
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You aren’t an average guy though, so you’ll never understand it and that’s ok. But a good way to find out if other men share that experience is by simply asking them while pretending to be a man. Too many are obsessed with virtue signalling to women so they don’t appear to be ‘misogynistic’
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:20 PM
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The EU, especially the eastern provinces are a typical favorite among the passport bros as well. The women are westernized in terms of style and fashion but not in their attitudes toward men who show interest in them. A couple of my friends into pickup reported having it waaay easier to get dates there, and the women don’t flake/ghost you at all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:14 PM
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Cool, I know not everyone is willing to consider moving from their homeland to a new culture and language just for a potential partner….ESPECIALLY if they already have a perfectly functioning one currently 🫵
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:07 PM
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Tell him you weren’t joking and won’t throw a fit over his answer. I can tell you worded it in way that sounds like “do I look fat in this dress?”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:00 PM
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And that's where you are from, no? You think you are better? No I think I deserve better, after dating fat chicks as a fit guy. There’s a difference but my husband would disagree with you fiercely You should ask him where would he consider finding another partner if you divorced him all of a sudden. His answer might surprise you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:55 PM
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i never said i condoned it. just said he shoulda never cheated. And I never said I condone domestic abuse, just that she should’ve made me a sandwich instead of hanging with her loser friends all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:47 PM
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No I’m not talking about paying to get laid. I’m talking about using your time and money in a smarter way. Those women will still desire you, not your money anymore than women here…with things like typical talking phase, dating, moving in etc. And what do you mean by “equal”? I did try my luck in the west and noticed a massive difference between dating the women that immigrated here vs dating women born here. It’s literally night and day. No wonder why passport bros are obsessed with dating wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:42 PM
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“and the vast majority of those who weren't could've had one if they tried.“ They tried and they couldn’t. That’s the whole point of being a desperate paypig for an onlyfans model. Ever seen what a popular female twitch streamer’s mod looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:33 PM
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Yeah but 100k isn’t enough lol these escorts especially the goodlooking ones charge $500 per hour now cuz of hoeflation. That’s really not worth it, although their real selling product is the girlfriend experience and they charge two grand per day for that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:31 PM
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Well, andrew tate got rich off his cam girl empire so I’m sure there’s a much more significant portion of men that are lonely and willing to pay for online poon compared to men who damage their current relationships for digital porn
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:28 PM
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And I am part of that statistic living with my aunt and despite having a grad engineering degree myself, it doesn’t really change the fact that once I get a job and start earning money, getting laid in another country would be the best bang for my buck
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:24 PM
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Don’t wanna be slapped in the face? Make me a damn sandwich
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:22 PM
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Smh - look at you condoning murder
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:29 PM
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Yeah, I still imagine it’s only the kind of dudes that show up in suits like in Casino Royale going to these brothels than the average trucker looking dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:28 PM
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Not true, the average joe now lives with his parents as his paychecks can’t pay rent anymore lol Jokes aside, A young single guy who lives paycheck to paycheck probably is broke, doesn’t have a useful degree/skill and has no plans for the future. That’s not the majority of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:25 PM
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You seem to underestimate the purchasing power of the almighty dollar. That’s why they call themselves ‘passport bros’ in the first place lol. If you’re truly broke, All you need is like 10 grand for a looooong trip to your favorite 3rd world country of choice to fuck around, go live laugh love happily and then come back to earn that money. If you actually have a decent corporate salary like the average joe, then the sky is your limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:17 PM
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Eh I watched porn when I was 9 and basically kept watching it till today. Didn’t make me have unrealistic expectations but it did made me realize that most women have low sex drives, to the point I’d have to resort to dating multiple at the same time or commit to one and watch corn whenever she’s not in the mood
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:06 PM
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A little correction, It IS legal in the US, but restricted to a small district in Nevada which makes it hyper expensive to the point of not being worth the price for travel unless you’re out vacationing. Definitely not for that weekend itch unless you live in Nevada and make like $200k+
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:57 PM
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Some platforms like tiktok won’t let people write down those words so everyone has adapted to a universal censorproof language
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:52 PM
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Pretty sure it was the more interactive ones where they do things for you on a cam if you pay them x amount or something as well as onlyfans girls who have a pseudo relationship with their pay pigs
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:51 PM
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I so desperately want to use the C word rn but don’t wanna be banned so…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:48 PM
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Add a dash of coleslaw and I’m in
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:45 PM
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Yup, same for me. Although it got me more confidence because I realized that it wasn’t my physical appearance that was the problem if I could get a woman (even if she was unattractive) to see me as physically attractive because let’s be honest women don’t change who they are attracted to just because they themselves are ugly/fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:41 PM
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Guess you’ll have to bring out the ol’ faithful as an average guy then; aka lying your way into her pants without regret. Desperate times call for desperate measures. It’s one of the few ways to take advantage of women tired of being part of Tinder Chad’s harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:31 PM
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Hoping you have less competition doesn’t make one bad though haha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:27 PM
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Smh - is that what you took out of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:19 PM
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a) they’re not prostitutes b) a lot of them actually tend to be educated and financially independent in their own country high value men don’t need to fly to Asia Just because he can’t get high quality western women doesn’t mean he’s low quality himself, as it could be the case where high quality western women are simply nowhere to be found. A simple way to verify that is using the obesity statistics of the west compared to a typical asian country.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:13 PM
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It’s most definitely something the average man can afford, that’s why passport bros are obsessed with it in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:08 PM
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I'm talking about men who literally get online tell women that if they don't act a certain way they will be left for foreign women. I don't know why none of you seem to understand that. Pretty sure it’s more of a warning rather than a bluff, because let’s be honest: most men wouldn’t leave their home country and forcibly adapt to a new language, culture and start from the ground up just for a partner…..unless the options they have in the west are so terrible that they have no other choice
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:06 PM
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It’s not threatening western women, but telling other men about the benefits of options abroad
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:46 PM
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Idk, but it costs $500K or above to immigrate to the USA unless you have asylum or marry someone who is a US citizen especially if you come from a 3rd world country. Pretty sure Thailand doesn’t cost that much
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:42 PM
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They’re not influencing anyone in any significant way cuz they aren’t fucking They are influencing the high value men into considering better options from abroad High value men are moving heaven and earth for western women.. More like the opposite, cuz high value men can get the best women anywhere. Value here doesn’t mean what men do for women, but the opposite aka what women are prepared to do to obtain such men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:40 PM
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Why stay loyal to a country whose divorce courts are ready to shit on you at a moment’s notice regardless of if you’re a veteran with a dear john letter or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:21 AM
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Lol that’s not even remotely true. In fact, it’s the opposite: only the rich western countries follow this rule for legal immigration
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:19 AM
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They wanna bed them, not marry them. Plenty of female bts weaboos got to experience that in S.Korea 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:17 AM
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Lmao what? If men are resorting to passportmaxxing aka leaving your home, culture, memories and everything in search of a partner in a far away land, that speaks to the terrible value of western women in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:16 AM
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Nah they were tired of him being whipped
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:11 AM
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Why would men need to neg western women if they’re saying they get better partners everywhere else? It’s like threatening a lazy employee with a pink slip when you literally have hundreds of well qualified applicants begging for his job at half the pay
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:09 AM
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It’s satire, based on the replies that most women give to street interviewers when asked about what they bring to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:03 AM
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And they get horny watching too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:39 AM
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Why does he have to bring anything to the table? He IS the goddamn table
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:37 AM
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Ah classic deflection. It’s ok to admit you have a low sex drive, nothing wrong in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:38 AM
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But virgins die of old age, so by definition not a need. Like I said, the outliers only reinforce the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:19 AM
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But you even suggesting that it’s possible that we can view the necessity of sex differently implies that it’s not a need. That’s you doing the suggesting lol. Just because asexual people exist doesn’t make sex become ‘unnecessary’. My point was and has been the same: just because some minority asexual/low sex drive people don’t need sex to thrive doesn’t mean sex isn’t necessary for ‘bare minimum survival’
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:09 AM
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Those aren’t even remotely in the same ballpark lol. You see sex as a hobby, I see it as part of a bare minimum survival necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:03 AM
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The point here was ‘bare minimum survival’ is pretty subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:57 AM
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Technically, you could call being inside an iron lung and supplied with mashed food daily is also a ‘bare minimum survival’. I’d not want such a life though….plenty of animals that can’t be captured for zoos are that way because they die of loneliness and sexlessness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:30 PM
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Italian or Latin?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:22 PM
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Every western woman I dated I had to cook for, plan the date arrangement and lead on the bed. They were basically used to the princess treatment by default by so many other guys that they expect this behavior as normal The only woman that doted on me was this South American Au pair chick I dated a while ago. She always made me dinner whenever I took her back to MY place AND gave me a massage after taking a shower together. Needless to say, I was pretty surprised by that. That’s when I had a real…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:07 PM
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“Express sexual interest as soon as possible and maybe not get friend-zoned or express not sexual interest and lock yourself into the friend box for sure.“ The point of having game is you don’t need to start off as friends in order for you to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:25 AM
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Why on fucking earth do you conflate ‘treat me like an actual person’ with treat me like a friend who you have zero sexual interest in? they are not mutually exclusive. By implying they aren’t mutually exclusive, you’re setting yourself up for the scenario where the guy sees her as a friend he has sexual interest in, thus ending up in the friend zone when his sexual interest isn’t reciprocated back. When you see her as a purely sexual interest and everyone else without the sexual element, you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:11 PM
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I did, and it shows you just have bad reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:57 PM
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Where did I mention me treating them all like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:56 PM
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One sided open relationship with a hot bi wife that looks like Megan Fox and lets me have threesomes with her friends. As for personality, as long as she’s low commitment, low maintenance and has a nice attitude and can keep up with my abnormally high TRT boosted sex drive, that’s all I can think of. Is that too much to ask for?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:44 PM
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Ah you just have bad reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:43 PM
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What’s funny is they can’t even seem to see the irony of their own statements relative to their place on the sexual hierarchy. Why do they think so cult-like?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:42 PM
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You’d be surprised, I have a similar look but when I changed my age preferences I actually got matches and hooked up with a mature woman way faster than women my age. Some older women like younger men too and are pretty direct
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:52 AM
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Uh everyone gets old, ugly and lose attraction to their partners over time that go through the same. That’s what plastic surgery is meant for fixing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:46 AM
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She literally shows off an nba player’s dms in her instagram on one of her videos as proof
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:39 AM
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A lot of guys don’t have the option to be able choose in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:39 AM
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Being a landwhale = poor impulse control + short unhealthy lifespan I wonder how many women would accept the “oh he’s a nice guy but he blows a couple of thousands at the casino” attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:38 AM
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Let’s be honest they aren’t ignored like women ignore men deemed unattractive. It’s basically hard to be ignored by men unless you’re old, extremely fat or have a facial defect. The beauty industry can’t fix those kinds of ugly, plastic surgery does
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:33 AM
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Cuz that’s how you would treat a normal person. It must be hard for someone to treat everyone in their life as a potential sexual interest
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:29 AM
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Of course, the government and the media is always wrong all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:28 AM
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Who ever wrote that probably believes the extreme bluepilled version of all women are angels who can do no wrong BS thus becoming a weak beta virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:26 AM
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All those jobs require being good at school. And you started out by saying smart people are always rich. So I'm just letting you know that's a stupid thing to say. How does that disprove what I said? Them being smart in certain areas made them rich. Being smart as a college professor didn’t. No, friend. Chad doesn't want "post wall" women. So no, "you" won't. The choice is also never between chad or balding janitor. If it was, I, like many women, would be single. Because neither of those are att…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:28 PM
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Yes, all those college professors who just can't get dates.... All those academically proficient doctors and lawyers and finance bros that can't get women... cmon man. We only talked about the college professors. Don’t add other ones because I specifically said women don’t really find academic rigors that attractive. The other professions not only make you wealthy but also give you status. They are nowhere near the same ball park Ok, well unlike you, I've successfully dated men that value my opi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:23 PM
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We do, which is why plenty of trans women report having much happier social lives whereas trans men report the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:53 AM
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Yeah all those stupid idiot college professors... Academic proficiency isn’t actually a good indicator of the kind of intelligence women deem attractive. Nah, never dated anyone I wanted to change. Not interested in that dynamic. Of course, you’d say you’d date people who you are physically attracted to and value your opinions and feelings. I’d date angelina jolie and megan fox at the same time too. But it’s not what I’m talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:51 AM
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Not at all true. Wealth is an extremely good indicator of a person’s intelligence. Dumb guys that inherit daddy’s money eventually squander it away anyways and even then their golddigger gf/wife would get the lion’s share of it since he’s too dumb to protect it or attract a decent woman in the first place (aka trash taking itself out) I’ll only be What women say they want and what they go for is laughably different most of the times. And if you’re gonna say that you’d rather be single than be fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:53 AM
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Not globally, but specifically in the west. Feminists tend to ignore the existence of Afghanistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:51 AM
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Taller = better genes Richer = better intelligence Stronger = better protection It exactly means better. There’s a meme in the black pill communitie about the 5’2 balding indian janitor for this very reason because no woman will choose him over the above. They are never going to be equal sexually. And in the same way, a woman below a chad’s league will simply be a part of his harem. Her opinions and feelings don’t matter because she can be easily replaced but the reverse isn’t possible….so she w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:46 AM
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Everything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:41 AM
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And I think what you did was fine, unless you’ve never complimented while flirting with someone you found attractive. I’d love sexual compliments but women never seem to do out of fear, which is valid enough. That makes the few sexual compliments I received over my short life even more precious
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:36 AM
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You couldn’t really comprehend the life of an average man then
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:32 AM
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I tried to explain that yes, women do check him out too, but are more guarded with men Or, you know, you could tell him…The Truth? That he’s not in the top 10% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:30 AM
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I’d rather take a compliment with true sexual intent behind it rather than a fake feel good one. I’d never be complimented at all than hear the latter….but women seem to love it for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:18 AM
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We would if their opinions didn’t have social consequences on the victims
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:12 AM
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Lol have you ever actually dated an 18 yr old highschool senior to be calling them ‘men’
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:11 AM
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Not really untrue about the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:08 AM
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And it will be true since most women want a man better than themselves…taller, richer, stronger etc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:50 AM
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Because women are not only attracted to a specific kind of man, they will only respond to him IF he makes the first move. This in itself can only occur when all men hit on her and she’d have to choose the one she’s attracted to. Sorry that men aren’t mind readers
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:49 AM
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Nope, women get plenty of Simpathy from men. The reverse is not true
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 01:57 PM
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Better save that effort into maintaining a rotation of incomplete lovers than trying to please one with no results
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 01:45 PM
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Sounds like cope. But you do you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:07 AM
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“The problem for very impoverished people is that they are poor, they don’t have enough to live.“ Quite an interesting set of morals you got there by thinking it’s better off to let them starve in poverty than give them a chance and date them and risk being seen like an exploitative loser by the likes of people such as yourself “So you would want to go live in Russia with your Russian bride, who is like what?“ Uhh, Like Hot? At the very least she won’t be obese like 50% of the whales in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:05 AM
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“China and Russia are rich countries now? Interesting.” Any more examples of non western “rich countries” then? “Or is it a woman, who has had little possibility for education“ Her Intelligence > her education based degree in gender studies “who lives in poverty“ Her living in poverty doesn’t matter since she’s not expected to provide for a man “who will not be able to work where you want to take her and who will be trapped?“ Why in the world would I want to take her back to the very place that …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:29 AM
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Do you think marriage between two different economical classes is exploitative? What if the passport bro travels to a rich country like Japan, china or Russia?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:10 AM
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Lmao, you’re definitely the type to get finessed by a used car salesman
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:06 AM
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Pretty sure no woman would be happy to be dumped for the sole reason of not being good enough in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:58 AM
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Of what I said earlier
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:55 AM
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True, I guess it could be the reverse in case of people with low libidos, sexual trauma or asexuals
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:53 AM
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If a woman is making you wait for sex, wait for her, but also keep having sex with other women in the meantime. She isn’t owed your chastity lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:52 AM
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I’d rather be sexually satisfied and be rejected later due to relationship incompatibility than invest a ton of time to make sure we’re compatible in a relationship only find out the sex was a dud
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:47 AM
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I don’t mind the 90 day rule. Plenty of women willing to bang on the first date once they find out the simp that waited for 90 days either has a terrible sex drive or is one of those bible thumpers that’s bad at sex. If a woman is making you wait for sex, wait for her, but also keep having sex with other women in the meantime. She isn’t owed your chastity lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:43 AM
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And there’s nothing wrong with it, as long as your “values” don’t involve actively harming people
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:21 AM
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“Being honest and real can be hard and rejection hurts but that's life sometimes.“ You know what doesn’t hurt? Me getting laid on the regular while you jerk off in the corner crying about your rejections while also patting yourself in the back for being honest. It’s like self-flagellation honestly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:19 AM
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You’re either naive, coping or a woman if you think having a “nice” personality gets women to your bed. Newsflash: It’s your looks and game that do
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:14 AM
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Pretty much yeah. You’ll likely find what you’re looking for if you keep getting something close to what you want but not exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:37 PM
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Sure, if they were already part of what you do normally and you happen to run into someone you found attractive you can warm approach them, but going out looking for hobbies specifically to warm approach chicks just serves to decrease your volume of how many you could’ve been approaching in the club
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:32 PM
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Sure there can be the occasional fit 7’s and 8’s in the gym, cafe or on hikes, but they aren’t abundant and the chances of you cold approaching someone in a cafe is pretty slim….unless you’re a coffee enthusiast yourself. The other hobbies require warm approaches that only serve to kill your overall volume for a slight boost in quality. Not to mention that beautiful women generally have a limited set of hobbies in the first place like yoga, hiking, gym, etc and many of those are inappropriate to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:26 PM
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A “good man” in this context isn’t someone who’s Jesus’s reincarnation but someone who’s actually good FOR the woman in theory….but doesn’t wet her panties like six foot Chad. Moral absolutism just makes you sound childish when there’s a ton of grey space
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:20 PM
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Check the edit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:16 PM
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The numbers are likely to cover most definitions of success
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:15 PM
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I find a lot of women attractive, and typically the attractive ones flock to clubs to get free attention, validation and drinks from men cuz they know they’re attractive. It’s statistically much more likely to find attractive women in bars and clubs for this reason. Whales don’t get hit on in clubs and are forced to watch their hot friends steal all the attention so either they get jealous or are indifferent. Regardless, this simply weeds out women that aren’t attractive most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:14 PM
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I only judge based on my own personal experiences. And no, 5 mins on the missionary with a hail mary at the end isn’t really the definition of a “healthy and adventurous sex life”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:09 PM
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She either rejects you directly, or she gives you a chance after you show her a good time on the date or on bed. Still greater probability than being honest and filtered out by the 6 foot height filters. And most 5’3 and below women that put them can’t tell the difference anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:06 PM
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It’s not unethical to focus on yourself when your partner refuses to
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:03 PM
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Sounds perfectly logical to come to that conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:01 PM
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“their is a difference between tryna finesse a come up and a person.” You’re not cheating someone out of their money, unless you equate sex with money which basically reduces it to prostitution. Everyone exaggerates their accomplishments or characteristics when playing sales pitch anywhere in the world if their product is average. This is how the world works. Reality is harsh
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:53 PM
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My moral code is do whatever you need to do other than actively harming others to get a woman’s consent. Lying about your intentions or in general like saying you’re six foot tall and have a big dick when you’re not and you don’t on dating apps to get her to open her legs, isn’t actively hurting anyone. You morally superior types get more pleasure feeling good about being rejected by honesty than getting it from actual sex and it tells. Ironically enough it’s always you guys that end up here lat…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:49 PM
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My point is that they will care more if you have either of these, and the guarantee is once you have all 3
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:43 PM
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Somethings ARE guaranteed. Things like looks, money and especially status pretty much guarantee that you will be seen as desirable. That’s what the redpill is about
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:42 AM
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Typically redpillers are the last persons you’d want to say are being ‘entitled’
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:40 AM
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Just tell him that you admit you have privilege? It’s not that hard lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:30 AM
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“Lying about some technical knowledge could even put people in danger or open up companies to lawsuits, it's not always worse than sales.“ Nope, it’s next to impossible to prove a man lied on his resume when most guys forget what they did even a year ago. “Anyone who justifies lying to get intimate access to someone's body that would otherwise not grant it is pretty morally bankrupt.“ And anyone who justifies this probably gets more pleasure out of being a morally superior incel than a dishonest…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:16 AM
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Damn, you must be either young or pretty rich and sheltered to be thinking this way lol. Your moral superiority won’t pay your bills and put food on the table to feed your kids when times are hard, but your intelligence to exploit loopholes does. What I do know is that most people who think like you never made it alive in the past during tough times.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:08 AM
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That they’re a minority? It also debunks your statement “ Women can make that much in their careers easily. Why would it be impressive? You need something to offer besides money.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:04 AM
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All I see is denial and tunnel vision
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:03 AM
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She will feel like it more if he starts coming in late and goes out on ‘meetings’ for multiple days.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:30 AM
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It’s the chemicals in the water
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:22 AM
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Probably about 10. I’m attractive facially but I fit into the pretty boy niche more and being of average height so that limits my options
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:01 AM
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Damn, my hands are pretty small and soft (despite being long). Almost like a woman’s….guess I gotta compensate with biker gloves
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:56 AM
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Yup, that guy’s delusional. If you want hot girls in your social circle, be a club promoter or something. Being the best in your local BJJ club or the DnD circle won’t get you anywhere lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:53 AM
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What if the man’s type is the hot young high-school girl/ babysitter that submissively calls him daddy? What about sugar babies? What about the side piece/mistress? What about the slutty female fwb bff? What about the hot distant cousin you only see on family gatherings but know it’s wrong to fantasize about?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:47 AM
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“And to have a successful and fulfilling relationship, being an asshole definitely hurts.“ Pretty sure that the guy with a more successful sex life will also have a more successful relationship due to how numbers work
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:03 AM
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All you people that hype up honesty with being somehow rewarding are just straight up delusional lol. If it was, then men don’t need to lie….it’s not like they get a sick pleasure out of doing it. They just do it out of necessity as women have made the market that way. Dating apps are a good example where plenty of guys lie about their height….but people conveniently forget to mention that 80% of women filter guys out for not being 6 feet tall. (And before you say they aren’t real life, 50% of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:54 AM
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I simply used it as an example of someone who’s better at sex than simply starfishing, not that porn sex is better than normal sex. Normal sex isn’t starfishing, and I’m sorry that you’ve been conditioned to believe it is
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:49 AM
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The women I’m interacting with are gen Z women, they are the ones with the highest standards of any generation till now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:44 AM
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No I meant it as an example for someone who’s good at sex, not that the way they have sex like in porn videos being better. I don’t have a high body count myself but enough to tell the difference between women that think that a man should consider himself lucky to even get her to spread her legs and a woman who likes to rock his world with mind blowing sex simply cause she likes doing so. Typically the second types are the older women who are experienced with what they like and the fat/ugly youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:37 AM
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Doing “the right thing” only works if dating wasn’t a zero sum game, but unfortunately it is for men, just like the job market. If everyone else is lying on their resumes, then being honest will only hurt your own chances. Similarly, if all non chads lie to women to get sex, then you as a non chad have no other option but to lie as on paper you’re just a shittier option in all cases, unless you feel more pleasure in thinking you’re morally superior to others than feeling pleasure from actually g…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:24 AM
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It’s different in sales because lying just makes you a scammer, which can open up a lawsuit. Lying on your resume however, doesn’t. That’s what At-Will employment means…cuz the company is always taking a risk hiring you and is free to let you go the moment they think you’re not performing upto their expectations. Sounds like you’ve never been on the receiving end of a recession. I’d rather be a liar who gets the job than an honest broke guy that doesn’t but thinks his morals pay the food bills a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:17 AM
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The point then would be that To have a successful sex life, being an asshole definitely helps
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:09 AM
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Most definitely. If I can get away with it, it just means there was too much pressure to abide by a system that one is dependent upon for getting a certain lifestyle which doesn’t actually need that system for being efficient in. You can’t lie your way through med school for example, BUT you can lie your way through Tech jobs that demand 6 yrs of experience for an entry level job straight out of college. Or the ones that simply ask for proficiency in data structures in the interview when the act…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:05 AM
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“Just do good by people and ignore when they assume otherwise.“ Do you think being honest on your resume for a job interview is “doing good by people”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:04 PM
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If coercion can lead to rape, then Technically the other case is also rape, since the man feels coerced into staying in a physical relationship with a woman he doesn’t want to be in. The idea that only women can be rape victims is something that needs to change
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:50 PM
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Pretty he wouldn’t care if she muds his name….those types would do it regardless of how he dumps her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:48 PM
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But but but…what about the Narrative™️?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:46 PM
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Good luck to them being a mind reader then. Because a lot of these women think they’re offering pornstar level sex while all they do is starfishing and if they think they got led on with the hopes of a relationship only to be “used” for sex, boy I have some news for them EDIT: I meant pornstar level sex as in someone who’s really good at sex in general, not someone who’s gonna provide porn-like sex….big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:45 PM
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Well if they wanna publicly defame someone online, they’re gonna be fresh game to an incoming lawsuit lmao…hope they enjoy getting sued. And the idea that ‘some’ women who don’t use men getting hurt is just collateral damage since the majority of them use men they don’t find physically attractive anyways. Thus men’s strategy would be to simply lie his way through to her pants, if she happens to find him barely attractive enough to open her legs eventually but not that attractive enough to smash …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:27 PM
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So it’s never appropriate to approach a woman since it’s rude to interrupt them. Cool
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:27 PM
1

So complimenting them is an act of desperation now
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:23 PM
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more goal posts. Why would he want to attract his grandmother or his female clients?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:40 PM
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Uhh, No. I was talking about the income from old fashioned rental properties and online businesses one can run while living in a foreign country
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:27 PM
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fyi I am talking about the men who leave the west with passive income and move to the home countries of the women they marry, so you shouldn't be able to know about how those men live. The men you're probably referring to are called LBH or 'Losers back home' that simp hard for their new wives whom they bring back to the west to live with them and would never have gotten if it weren't for their green card.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:19 PM
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Au contraire, they have much lower expectations. Precisely due to the fact that my relative wealth would make her live a wealthy lifestyle in her home country. That in itself will enable one to have most of the leverage, since he is by default the more desirable partner in the relationship as being with him enhances her life significantly more than she does his. This is why you see plenty of white dudes that marry asians and latinas and most male immigrants in western countries marry women from …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:13 PM
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Which probably implied that she was lowkey flirting with those guys. if he approved some male friendships and didn't approve the others
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:04 PM
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Cool, so just be better looking than the woman with a better financial standing. That's as basic as it gets. Then the best dating strategy in that case would be to leave the west lmao. Plenty of broke 3rd world hotties looking for a bailout
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:03 PM
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The statistics are clear. Only 4% of women are ok with dating men shorter than them and the short men that want these women will have to beat the competition of taller men. You happening to know some of those women doesn't negate the hundreds of rejections short men experience on a daily basis. Stop shitting on short men's experiences by assuming that what they have to go through isn't real or that female dating patterns don't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:00 PM
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There shouldn't be a concept of 'leagues' since women aren't a 'hive-mind' and are completely random right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:54 PM
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"Women’s preferences vary by culture, a lot. Compare western women to Asian or middle eastern women, very different." Geography hasn't changed the original preferences. Women are STILL attracted to objective and quantifiable traits (like male height, income, etc.). The evidence is clear that women prefer taller men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:51 PM
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Jonah did say "have inappropriate relationships with male friends" so I assumed that was what he was talking about. It also goes well with her posting thirst traps on instagram
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:43 PM
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You do realize professional surfers don't need to post bikini thirst traps and flirt with the men interested with them because of it as part of their profession right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:44 PM
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" If he changed how he felt about that he should of just ended it rather than give her a list of what to change about herself in order to continue the relationship. " Ah so being a good communicator is bad now
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:41 PM
1

Seems like they’re the perfect fit then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:49 AM
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“There have always been more women than men and also promiscuous women are not relationship material for a reason.“ Lmao the delusion. Just look at the demographics of 18-40 yr olds. Men actually outnumber women 105:100
/r/MensRights02/03/23 09:25 PM
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No, nothing’s wrong. Just that since the genders are 50/50, the fact that a woman is a side piece implies that the guy who could have had her is an incel
/r/MensRights02/03/23 09:18 PM
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Is he in the same weight range as her?
/r/MensRights02/03/23 06:56 AM
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Accountability is a feminist’s kryptonite
/r/MensRights02/03/23 06:55 AM
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It will always be a zero sum game if woman are willing to be sidepieces
/r/MensRights02/03/23 06:50 AM
1

Do you like to dominate them in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 08:17 AM
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Take my updoot for honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 08:14 AM
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Yeah, if they have a string of short term flings, that’s a better indicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:13 PM
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Yeah that’s how hetero sex works, men and women both need to be aroused for that. It’s just that some men would also be aroused by a 70 yr old fat grandma during desperate times…..despite not ever considering a relationship with her, but women wouldn’t. “Yes there are some pathetic sleazeballs who would feign genuine interest when they are really not attracted to someone but thinking that's a significant percentage of men is not only inaccurate but highly misandrist.“ If free sex is on the table…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:00 PM
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That explains why. If you live in these places as an average man, you’re essentially dating on nightmare mode. But your your sister-in-laws are your ‘in-laws’ for a reason. The women that were being described above would never even be married at that age. They’d be enjoying their hoe phases
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:45 PM
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The reason men might have more partners is because they tend to go much further down their league for pussy during times of desperation. I’ve lost my virginity to and slept with a bunch of landwhales during a dry spell….when I literally have a six pack. They don’t really add to my bodycount…but I might add to theirs, if you get what I mean. Thus it would be more accurate if those men were asked about the quality of their lays…since women would never do this in the first place due to hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:42 PM
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Well by cities I mean the ones like LA, Miami, NYC etc. Kansas city is a ‘city’ too, but you know what I mean 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:16 PM
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Either you don’t live in the city or You must be old as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:59 AM
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So you have been hurt, but just by watching a small internet minority echo chamber doing it’s thing. And you mention you’re a virgin so that’s proof enough for the above to be true
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:52 AM
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Yes, unless you’re either Aromatic or Asexual. But just to be clear, by hurt I don’t necessarily mean an individual. It could be as insignificant as an online community like TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:08 AM
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So predictable conclusion to this would be: Who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:47 AM
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Lol I knew you were gonna say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:11 AM
1

Well you said you’re a better man, what else can I infer from that statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 03:41 AM
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Of course, you’re a man. The statistics say single MOTHERS are suboptimal parents, not fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 03:38 AM
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No she’s shitty for still wanting to raise a kid when her partner leaves or doesn’t want it (aka raising it suboptimally). In the former case she’s also shitty for choosing a bad one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 03:31 AM
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Then she deserves to be shit on
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 03:12 AM
1

My bad, should’ve replaced it with horniness and validation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 03:12 AM
1

Loneliness paired with the Halo effect can make you do things you’d never have considered
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 11:36 PM
1

It’s just a clump of cells without sentience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 10:37 PM
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They don’t have to be responsible but the least they can do is not be delusional or fall for the apex fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 10:09 PM
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The term ‘incel’ was originally coined by a woman who was a lesbian. Take that as you will
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 10:03 PM
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Women always do, that’s just a fact. I’m talking quantity not quality. Men however, actually need a baseline looks criteria to get hard enough after which then they care about quantity more. Promiscuous men are capable of getting women above that threshold thus having plenty of viable options (Regular men cannot, so they have zero options, quantity wise). These options obviously don’t go down with age, they get more and more. Thus there’s no incentive for him to “settle down” with that option un…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 04:10 PM
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Women have an abundance of options in general - promiscuous or not. This is as factual as admitting water is wet, a simple tinder experiment will prove this. Thus, promiscuity is simply a matter of whether she decides to exercise her current options or wait for a better partner. She never actually had a lack of said abundance or quality in order to actually commit so never does, until one day her options go down a bit or her fertility window starts to go down and she wants a family. Then she sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:14 PM
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Nope, because promiscuous men have no reason to commit to the first woman that decided to give him the time of her day due to his abundance of options. He is promiscuous because many women are attracted to him and he chooses the best option to commit to
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:00 PM
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Texting you for weeks to get a first date might be a green flag for you but it just shows that the guy probably has no other faster options
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 11:55 AM
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Because it indicates that the man the woman who had her fun before was settling with is a loser that she will drop the moment someone she actually desires looks at her
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 11:01 AM
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They don’t have a right to complain about toxic masculinity when they reward the exact same behaviors with sex.
/r/seduction16/09/22 05:37 AM
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It is when your social circle that you were raised with actively prevented you from getting successful. I’d say it’s the equivalent of making it big despite growing up in the hood instead of the suburbs
/r/seduction13/09/22 09:24 AM
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Lmao, I do cook some good Tikka Masala. Maybe I should involve my cooking skills in convos more often lol
/r/seduction13/09/22 09:22 AM
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But Indian women themselves are a minority. Even by a non preferential sheer numbers game, he’s going to be doing better with whites and latinas
/r/seduction13/09/22 09:20 AM
3

Sounds like body dysmorphia
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 08:59 AM
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Jan 5th gate
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 08:51 AM
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That is but one factor compounding on women serial dating/placing the top men on rotation instead
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:28 PM
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Actually there aren’t. There’s 105 men to 100 women at the age ranges 18~30. People seem to keep forgetting about this disparity
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:11 PM
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The most one can do is be fit, and get better clothes. Not much you can do with physical appearance unless you decide to blow some money and go under the scalpel The most important physical attraction indicators for men are: Tall, Broad shoulders, full head of hair, hunter eyes, sharp jaw, hollow cheeks, an above average 🍆, visible abs and overall a good face. Only 1 among these is achievable with hard work. And remember, physical attraction is non-negotiable
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:07 PM
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I wish I can change the bones of my face or grow taller. Women mostly find genetics attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:21 PM
2

Did you know that looks also affect your sales?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:36 AM
2

Yeah just like money isn’t everything. But you need both
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:34 AM
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If women would give it up to all kinds of men (like in the okcupid study where men found women attractive on a bell curve), we wouldn’t need porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:28 AM
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If you’ve sat and watched two car salesmen talk about how they make good deals, you’d probably be angry at them too. Don’t hate the players
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:25 AM
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Yes, as long as she gets paid and isn’t abused ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:13 AM
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I was considering getting a hair transplant surgery myself as a guy in his early twenties. Imagine what older women obsessed with their looks go through
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:12 AM
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I don’t think that’s an age related issue but a pretty privilege related issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:06 AM
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It would make sense for the short men to also pursue tall women. Thus making tall women the most desirable and short women the equivalent of fat women. Which implies only losers would be willing to date them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:05 PM
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Actually, men might start preferring taller women because of this exact reason. If all women want tall men, then it becomes necessary for the tall man to have his kids to be genetically advantageous on reproducing so he might end up going with a tall girl
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:47 AM
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The problem is if we let go of control of one gender, the other is bound to lose control and act freely. If all women decide that only the unga bunga 6’4 chads are the norm and give birth to the next gen, the men that would be in control of society without any stake in it will simply have 0 incentive to continue enabling this out of “virtue”. Remember, natural selection has also selected the “selfish gene” in each of us, so most men do not want to die a childless taxpayer cuck. So if it comes do…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:31 AM
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What happened?
/r/seduction11/09/22 05:00 AM
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They don’t need to be intelligent if they’re already hot lol
/r/seduction10/09/22 11:24 PM
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What women say =/= what they do unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:23 PM
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It’s expected to be 50% in 10 years btw
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:39 PM
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No what he’s saying is an attractive successful woman will most definitely not date down income wise, just like an attractive ugly woman. But if both happen to do so out of desperation from their own high standards, Guess who’d be the better choice for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:25 PM
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One….Plenty of so called “red-pill misogynists” also end up marrying women. Doesn’t really make them egalitarians, and the same applies to you. Two….I do know that most men aren’t desperate or bitter but it was never my point at all. My point was you never had any sympathy for the ones at the bottom despite virtue-signalling in the previous replies about having it when “they give it their 100%” and that it was a problem. Three….I forgot that you’re actually quite old and out of touch with the cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:49 AM
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Ah nevermind, you seem to argue in a misandristic bad faith based off of your other comments. Lesson learned I do hope you heal from whatever trauma is affecting you since you’re hellbent on not even acknowledging a problem exists in the first place despite data lol. But then again, people from privilege generally don’t care about these things so who am I to convince them to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:08 AM
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I think you got it wrong. When OP says that women will date guys who don’t work on themselves, those guys compensate with an extremely good looking face/tall height who work shitty jobs. Those guys would have been classified as losers in a previous generation or two but now since women make their own money and have safety net subsidy incentives from the government, they don’t need these qualities anymore. Looks and maybe a bit of game is what matters. These are mostly genetics and thus further e…
/r/seduction06/09/22 05:56 AM
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“Limiting yourself to what the previous generation "taught" you is not much of an excuse.“ The numbers I mentioned previously about the demographics shows that calling them “excuses” in a tragic situation only highlights your own inability to perceive the depth of this scenario. “Because, again, I don't see where anyone was promised a partner when they grew up“ Yeah you never had any sympathy in the first place lmao. It was “I would be sympathetic if they tried everything” to “you’re not guarant…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 09:26 PM
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“Because I don't know that they've tried absolutely everything.“ You don’t need to, as you can simply assume they did whatever it takes that their previous generation taught them (who also happened to get more sex btw). Since they failed to achieve similar results, they indeed have tried everything. “Because your definition of a perfect world is one where everyone pairs up, which is ridiculous.“ Thus making it even more ridiculous when you say you have no sympathy when the odds are even more ble…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 08:54 PM
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“Unless he's trying absolutely everything, I have no sympathy for him.“ Since that would be purely upto your interpretation, I can conclude you have no sympathy at all. “People who are confident about their standards don't complain about people not meeting them.“ Even the demographics disagree with you. Men : women is 105 :100 at the ages 18~30 Even in a perfect world, there will be men who cannot find any no matter how low their standards supposedly are
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 08:44 PM
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That it’s not men’s standards that are the problem. Men didn’t suddenly “raise” their standards into making themselves sexless. It’s just that they simply can’t get any no matter how much they tried: a factor you refuse to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 08:39 PM
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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767066?widget=personalizedcontent&previousarticle=0 “the proportion of 18- to 24-year-old individuals who reported having had no sexual activity in the past year increased among men (18.9% vs 30.9%; age-adjusted odds ratio [aOR] for trend across survey periods, 1.20; 95% CI, 1.04-1.39) but not among women (15.1% vs 19.1%; aOR for trend, 1.03; 95% CI, 0.89-1.18).“
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 08:33 PM
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That isn’t true, as given by the latest statistics which say 40% of men are sexless but women are still having the same amount of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 08:29 PM
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Wait why are you blaming men on this? No one wants to be put in a position of choosing a healthy sex life vs self respect as both are seen as extremely important for development. The point is all women have options, but all men do not. And that automatically puts you in the position of privilege. Whether you choose to exercise this privilege is upto you, but it doesn’t negate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 08:15 PM
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The fact that you could just leave him in your teens, have your hoe phase and end up with the exact same scenario in your 40’s? Most unattractive men cannot do so (about 70~80%)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 08:10 PM
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40% of relationships happen online now. You’d be limiting yourself severely not trying out online But again, irl the women who happen to use bumble also care about height so that’s something to remember
/r/seduction05/09/22 08:00 PM
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That’s great but statistically 90% of women will not date a guy shorter than them. So it still makes sense that increasing your height = increasing your dating pool
/r/seduction05/09/22 07:58 PM
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Having an economically and sexually viable alternative that one choosing to forgo due to moralistic BS doesn’t mean they aren’t privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 07:56 PM
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Lmao, you seem to underestimate the importance of height.
/r/seduction05/09/22 11:07 AM
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If you look at the bumble height filters set by women statistically, you’ll realize the truth.
/r/seduction05/09/22 11:04 AM
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Ever looked at the bumble stats about height filter set by women? You’d be shocked to see the difference between 5’11 and 6’ despite the difference being unnoticeable irl
/r/seduction05/09/22 11:02 AM
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“I would much rather be single than be with a person I don't actually want.” That’s the difference between the average men and women, literally explained why that is due to the biological reasons given. Pretty much the same reason women’s standards start to lower once they’re in their mid to late 30’s. “For starters, even when you're describing women as privileged“ They are, when it comes to sex and relationships. They have inherent value. I don’t believe in the idea that men are the gatekeepers…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 10:38 AM
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Most men are that way due to circumstances. For average women it’s different as they’re gonna be reaching a certain ceiling where jumping any higher would mean she won’t have her other requirements met as she already has a ton of options at every level. It’s upto her, deciding to be a rich man’s mistress or an average guy’s wife or just live off of onlyfans and bang chad on the side who doesn’t commit It’s easier to decipher women’s morality as they’re already in a position of privilege in the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:47 AM
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Because it isn’t black or white. So great is a man’s sex drive that Sometimes men would settle for a whale just to have their needs met. The moment they can do better, they will.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 02:13 AM
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He probably sounds that way because of the gaslighting women constantly throw in the way when asked for dating advice. Regardless, that’s a good question: a lot of men would prefer to date down in terms of looks and personality for the sole aspect of getting laid on a consistent basis, especially during the ages 18~30 which is what matters the most in men’s lives. Thus, I would say that as long as you have a high amount of testosterone (peaking at 18, starting to decline at 25) it will make you …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:33 AM
1

It’s negging
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:19 AM
1

Ironically some women believe it is lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:11 AM
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That’s not the point. Standards are meant to get better partners BUT if your standards prevent you from getting any partners, that just means you have priced yourself out of the market. This is what we keep saying to the older women that cry about “where have all the good men gone” The reverse is also applicable to men. It just so happens that when your options are so few in the first place, you cannot afford to have standards in order to have a relationship. A lack of any relationships till you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:04 AM
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Nope, never heard of it. In fact, leo gets called 10x worse things from jealous older women than any guys who are “supposedly” against mature women like Madonna going after younger guys. In fact they’re actually concerned about her getting dumped by younger dudes if they want kids in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:55 AM
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He does to club girls what most OF women do to their simps. People with endless options have that privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:52 PM
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No one calls Madonna or Britney Spears any names. You’re making stuff up
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:49 PM
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Who says you have to date them in order to be rated as attractive by them? They aren’t that good at virtue signalling about attraction at that age anyways which is all the more compelling to be rated by them
/r/seduction04/09/22 04:14 AM
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Because they’re the most ruthless and picky as they don’t need to pay bills. Pretty much the go to for knowing where you stand in terms of attraction
/r/seduction04/09/22 04:01 AM
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When nature is the excuse, morality becomes an option
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 10:18 PM
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The long term visa is obtained through a the lottery system for me. So it’s completely out of my control and based on luck….getting dates seems way more workable tbh and yes, I’m dedicated to getting that 10% range. I’ve never done it before so I hope it isn’t hard to maintain
/r/seduction31/08/22 07:20 AM
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Maybe I’ll hit the clubs more often, gotta get out of my comfort zone for that I guess. Idk what else to do at this point other that cold approaching but that’s really banking on social skills which I don’t currently have….kinda like a catch-22
/r/seduction31/08/22 03:14 AM
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Thanks, I have a time limit in the west with the student visa so that’s why I’m tripling down on the self improvement. I need luck more than anything at this point though, dating looks bleak for average guys of my generation.
/r/seduction31/08/22 12:49 AM
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Well, I did consult a surgeon to get some work done on my face. And I hit the gym frequently intending on cutting, so I’d take those as long term steps Approach-wise, I don’t drink and never got into bar culture for that reason, and was raised in a really conservative asian fashion. Then finished college during COVID (online). My current job is also remote so I’m restricted work-wise as the only young guy in a team of 30 yr olds for connections. I tried cold approaching a couple of times but rea…
/r/seduction31/08/22 12:27 AM
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I’m 5’10 in height and brown. Facewise I’d say a 5 but might detract a point or two currently as I have braces. It’s kinda relative as I live in a college town known for its greek life and everyone looks taller & better than me here.
/r/seduction31/08/22 12:08 AM
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24
/r/seduction30/08/22 11:50 PM
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I make 150k as an engineer, live in a college town, got my own apartment, car AND have a personal trainer (I’m on a cut, and at 17% bf currently) Still a virgin, and all my friends graduated and left town.
/r/seduction30/08/22 11:41 PM
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It doesn’t exclude other forms of attractiveness. But that doesn’t mean physical attraction can be negotiated with those. You wouldn’t choose a 300lb girl with a nice personality now would you?
/r/seduction23/08/22 09:00 PM
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Rule1 : Be attractive Rule2 : Don’t be unattractive Rule3 : follow whatever BS posts on here but don’t forget the above rules 👆
/r/seduction23/08/22 08:40 PM
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Even sadder when you think you’ve “won” an argument when there’s nothing to argue about
/r/seduction15/08/22 07:07 PM
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At least I’m not someone who uses tons of 😂 emojis. It’s pretty sad to watch honestly
/r/seduction15/08/22 07:04 PM
4

Never said anything about anyone going to a bar either
/r/seduction15/08/22 06:56 PM
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Never implied they did. Being strong is meeting the bar. Wimps don’t get laid ever
/r/seduction15/08/22 06:53 PM
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Character =/= strength
/r/seduction15/08/22 06:47 PM
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Because it’s true. She can literally just create a tinder profile and be showered with hundreds of guys
/r/seduction14/08/22 09:12 AM
0

And what did you tell him? That every woman is different? If that were true, advertising wouldn’t be a thing
/r/seduction09/08/22 08:14 PM
5

r/nothingeverhappens
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 04:54 PM
3

Get into STEm
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 04:36 PM
7

Look at what they do to mimic a fraction of his power
/r/seduction04/08/22 08:55 AM
4

As long as you stay humble and willing to accept that most of your success is due to factors out of your control, you’re good to go.
/r/seduction03/08/22 08:57 PM
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If you told you have 0 job experience in a job interview asking for an experienced position, what would you have expected to happen?
/r/seduction03/08/22 11:01 AM
1

If you’re gonna get out via uber/lyft anyways then why not pre-booze before entering the bar?
/r/seduction29/07/22 06:30 AM
1

No wonder you got downvoted, man just spitting facts
/r/seduction28/07/22 11:21 PM
1

1 failed approach in total also equals 100% rejection rate.
/r/seduction25/07/22 08:01 PM
1

It’s easy to find it online because they can get away with it. Nothing wrong with it, but everything wrong with people who blame personalities instead of acknowledging the fact that a short guy will have an unchangeable and hard dating life. This is what pisses men off, since women have no idea how it’s like to be gaslighted about this stuff that they womansplain to short men.
/r/MensRights21/07/22 09:45 PM
2

Somebody tell him the truth
/r/seduction16/07/22 07:36 AM
4

No I believe in him. It’s better to die trying to get what you ultimately desire than being resentful of it never “happening” despite the wait. The odds are stacked against us, so it’s objectively a greater achievement than ever
/r/seduction08/07/22 08:36 AM
0

Ok chad
/r/seduction08/07/22 08:33 AM
1

What did they say?
/r/seduction07/07/22 11:11 PM
0

Stds and pregnancies are preventable with modern technology. Self defense is possible with guns. Despite all this, women are picky as if we were apes running out in the jungle (muh tall men protect us better bs) Tell me, what in the world does having an “advanced society” do for you if they get to have their base urges met with zero consequences whereas you cannot because muh MoRaLiTy
/r/seduction06/07/22 08:45 PM
0

Why do you think it’s fucked up when clearly morality is against your self-interest and also not good in the long run in this situation?
/r/seduction06/07/22 05:09 PM
0

Yes that is the crux of my argument. Ideally men shouldn’t “pick women” aka not be picky, but if he was good enough to be picked by multiple women, then it would be in his best interests to mate with all those who did pick him instead of being committed to one.
/r/seduction06/07/22 04:04 PM
0

No I meant their biological impulse would be to cheat and impregnate as many women as possible. Morality dictates that it’s wrong but when when women get to be picky on their own terms (and getting the full benefits of acting out on their self interests, such as excluding men of less height, disabilities, wrong color, jawline etc) then men who got picked by multiple women should ideally never stop cheating since they’re missing out on their own biological imperative over something as trivial as …
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:35 PM
1

Yeah they might. But you’re bound to have flaws and in my opinion they’ll be magnified due to their ridiculous options. That’s why you don’t see the average guy dating a model/celebrity that often instead of the cute girl next door.
/r/seduction06/07/22 01:15 AM
1

Idk if this is confidence or over-confidence
/r/seduction06/07/22 01:12 AM
0

By morality. Aka “cheating is wrong”. Women can cheat too, but why does she need to if she already is bearing chad’s offspring?
/r/seduction06/07/22 01:10 AM
0

No I was saying it’s not worth pursuing them because of this.
/r/seduction05/07/22 03:49 PM
7

And more competition from rich/model guys
/r/seduction05/07/22 03:45 PM
7

She’s a fashion model, I think they’re the nuclear reactors of gfs
/r/seduction05/07/22 03:42 PM
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Actually, men are forced to reel in their biological impulses to impregnate as many females as possible in favor of commitment. It’s not the same for women, so it’s only natural that the chads will stop committing when women refuse to lower their standards.
/r/seduction05/07/22 03:39 PM
1

If you’re rich, the women come to you
/r/seduction05/07/22 03:33 PM
12

Well, apart from your open defense of gold diggers, your wish is also useful in the reverse circumstances: if those women had “gold-digger” tattooed on their foreheads, we’d know exactly what to say to them to get laid. Hell, I’d rent a supercar and a vip suite at caesar’s palace as improvisation Just for that 😉.
/r/seduction05/07/22 08:09 AM
1

There’s no gym for his height or face if he’s lacking in those aspects. Confidence is a byproduct of success, it doesn’t precede it. I think what you’re suggesting is fake it till you make it, which is bad if he doesn’t know where he stands currently since he wouldn’t know what to fake in order to compensate for his shortcomings.
/r/seduction05/07/22 07:57 AM
1

Pre selection bias
/r/seduction05/07/22 07:51 AM
6

They have a term for these white guys: LBH…. Losers back home Lmao
/r/seduction05/07/22 07:46 AM
10

The correct definition is sex by fraud. And yes, it’s what they deserve for being gold diggers.
/r/seduction05/07/22 07:42 AM
1

Sure
/r/seduction04/07/22 04:26 AM
0

Just google “confident man” images on google. If you look like those guys in the pictures, then you’re confident
/r/seduction03/07/22 08:17 PM
2

Halo effect
/r/seduction03/07/22 08:16 PM
2

Easy: Just get a bunch of these 30 & wanna settle women on a rotational basis and do the exact same thing they did in their 20’s.
/r/seduction03/07/22 08:16 PM
2

I wonder why people accept background checks for literally everything else in this godforsaken country then
/r/seduction30/06/22 07:09 AM
3

Ever heard of the term “butterface”?
/r/seduction30/06/22 07:06 AM
1

I’m assuming it’s a fast food job since you mentioned you’re a student. In that case go for it, don’t worry about awkwardness as you can easily switch jobs
/r/seduction25/06/22 10:06 AM
1

Dude, if you believe she’s out of your league and if you get into a relationship with her, chances are it won’t last. Looks like a case of the oneitis, it would do you good to approach multiple women at once, at least that would dull out the pain of rejection than putting all your eggs in one basket and crying when you lose them all. I agree that approaching can be difficult, but it’s still easier than cold approaches which imo I’ve never actually did myself.
/r/seduction25/06/22 09:49 AM
1

But they won’t necessarily be attracted to you. Just ask her out, and see what you can work with after the rejection to attract such girls who are the “opposite” based on the feedback
/r/seduction25/06/22 09:44 AM
2

I got dumped because she “felt like a man” by using her car to take me out to dates that I paid for btw. Car is definitely a game changer imo
/r/seduction25/06/22 09:21 AM
1

Actually the context matters here. You can also call food as ‘ration’ in the context of hiking/adventure/military. And it feels more normal to call them as ‘females’ when you want to generalize certain behaviors while on a seduction sub. A phrase saying: “Females have a preselection bias” vs “Females lost their abortion rights” definitely has more cringe in the latter than the former What did you want the op to say then? XX friends? Lmao
/r/seduction25/06/22 06:30 AM
1

Yup. So that’s not something within your control. At least here you’re getting something out of them at present instead of banking on years of camaraderie
/r/seduction25/06/22 06:10 AM
1

Well I’m not that old enough and my job is working from home, AND I switched countries often. That’s not something viable for me
/r/seduction25/06/22 05:13 AM
1

Well, weren’t you complaining about fake friends? I’m just being blunt, they’re still friends that might help out on occasion but not like I’ll write them down as an emergency contact
/r/seduction25/06/22 04:03 AM
1

Why do guys always go for the toxic girls like these? :( /s
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:59 AM
1

Yeah no. That’s only IF they do that first. The onus is on them to be worthy of being someone I would care for. Till then, they’re just ‘A friend’, not a ‘close friend’. Just friends use each other for the time being
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:51 AM
0

“You can't base your whole relationship with friends off of what they can give you, it's never going to last or end well.“ Unconditional love isn’t even present in relationships these days, how do you expect friends to reciprocate that lol
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:42 AM
1

Dude must be a chad lol
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:40 AM
1

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:37 AM
0

I believe this is a reddit thing where people get triggered by the mention of ‘females’
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:30 AM
1

It’s called networking, ever heard of that?
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:28 AM
2

Might be older generation
/r/seduction23/06/22 01:18 AM
2

My ex used to be like this, made me brush my teeth every time after I went down on her, apparently she was too repelled by her own odor.
/r/seduction23/06/22 01:17 AM
1

Or, it shows women perceive the more attractive/masculine men to act nicer than what they usually behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:32 PM
0

Yeah those studies are similar to the halo effect (‘masculine’ = attractive) so idk what you’re implying
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:05 PM
2

Yeah, that’s cause of the opposite effect known as the horn effect where you automatically assume ugly guys are inly nice to get girls
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:03 AM
1

Ah the lean chiseled swimmer look I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:46 PM
2

They actually don’t. People just assign those personalities to them due to the halo effect
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:44 PM
2

All of those are co created with the halo effect
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:37 PM
1

Pretty sure those guys aren’t natty
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:27 PM
0

I hope you still uphold the same standards at all ages. When you compromise on those standards like some women do in their 30’s or 40’s to want a family that’s when men feel like they’re being settled for
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:56 PM
0

Even if she learns anything it’s that only buff dudes make her wet. You can’t compromise on attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:53 PM
1

Oh it does. Apparently the assumption is that the right to vote is a basic need. You can set age limits if you’d like…I’d suppose a 40+ man would think otherwise but then again, if people are even considering the possibility that they would rather sacrifice their voting rights for pussy for a certain period of time, then you’ll know which is more important lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:52 PM
1

“Some ugly ass dudes get women and do that shit“ If they’re getting women then they aren’t as ugly as you think they are to get away with cheating/abuse. Social aptitude has nothing to do with it really. If they can advertise themselves as a catch after crossing a certain looks threshold then they’ll get women regardless. You just need to be neurotypical after stepping the foot through the door
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:46 PM
3

Nope not really, it’s a privilege. You can’t vote if you’re a child/alien/in prison. You don’t even get a holiday on election day to go out and vote. But the fact that you think it’s ridiculous instead of being deadset on proving I’m wrong just makes me think deep down you know it’s true
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:36 PM
0

It proves which is which, for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:34 PM
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Nope, men don’t have a problem with picky women. They do have a problem with the shallow ones that then complain about why Ch@d either hits them or has another baby mama on the side. It about advertised/perceived value vs actual value (aka the value that women claim that if you have it, you’ll never get a woman)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:40 AM
1

Prove it, conduct a study that asks would people never ever have the option to have sex again or the option to vote again and see who picks what.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:37 AM
-1

People’s problems are generally solved either with empathy or by greed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:36 AM
3

They won’t, because they are dating you in good faith. But if they find out you treat your past lovers way better, then it’s simply a fact that you aren’t attracted to your current partner enough which is basically a relationship ender.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:52 PM
1

It is factually unfair. It is MEANT to be that way, in most sexually dimorphic species. Of course you can’t help
/r/seduction20/06/22 07:45 AM
1

Because the OP of the thread generalized all women by saying they ALL* wanna spend time witth the fun ugly guy. The serial killer comment was meant to counter this statement
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:16 PM
1

“Women would rather spend time with a fun guy that maybe isn’t the most handsome than a hot guy with 0 personality or straight up rude.“ The OP of this thread was doing just that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:12 AM
0

If you’re going to make sex hard to get, that’s going to make a dead bedroom guaranteed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:03 AM
9

Then clearly don’t give advice on stuff you have no idea about
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/22 09:24 AM
4

Honest salesmen never get the commission
/r/seduction13/06/22 10:20 PM
2

Then you aren’t a priority to them as much as they are to you
/r/seduction08/06/22 06:49 PM
1

Leverage your position to Ask for benefits
/r/seduction01/06/22 09:32 PM
1

Ah I guess you meant ‘not bad’ Huge difference
/r/seduction17/05/22 05:01 AM
1

If you can’t get any, maybe you aren’t as decent looking as you think
/r/seduction16/05/22 05:07 AM
2

Plastic surgeons: Hold my beer
/r/seduction16/05/22 05:07 AM
1

Someone has it worse is not an answer
/r/seduction06/05/22 11:02 PM
1

One word: Inflation
/r/seduction06/05/22 06:55 AM
1

Well, the problem is the attraction isn’t mutual
/r/seduction05/05/22 04:36 AM
3

No it’s not. Assuming two guys have the exact same personalities, why go for one who’s short, balding and has a weak jaw vs someone who’s the opposite.
/r/seduction03/05/22 08:31 PM
2

Everyone can work min wage due to current demand. Unless you’re talking drug addicted felons with bad credit or disabled people that cannot get government checks, I don’t see who else would face something like that. Again, more excuses
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 07:49 AM
5

Every job has risks and the resulting rewards. But most importantly, every job is driven by supply and demand. If you are unhappy with your workplace, Who’s stopping the sex worker to go learn stem/upskill herself and become an engineer or something? Anyone can get a student loan these days. All I hear are excuses
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 10:22 AM
7

Actually the same could be said to any other work as well: I wouldn’t do any work at all if I was given free money but I need money to survive and hence work is labor by coercion aka slavery. See how that sounds? If those sex workers want well paid work, let them sex work their way to pay for their college and then advance their career
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:46 AM
1

Also consider going on TRT in your mid-late thirties, it will slow down aging much more
/r/seduction15/04/22 09:05 AM
2

Why don’t you just get hair transplants or a wig?
/r/seduction12/04/22 08:04 AM
13

Rule 1: be attractive Rule 2: don’t be unattractive Rule 3: follow the above two rules first before working on your personality
/r/seduction11/04/22 10:58 PM
1

Literally Suffering from success 😞
/r/seduction20/01/22 12:44 AM
10

Well, not every guy can do what he did, so it’s quite an achievement. But literally any woman can do that so yeah they are
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 09:18 PM
52

Anne Hathaway
/r/seduction27/11/21 09:10 PM
1

Hpv can be prevented with a simple vaccine tho
/r/seduction26/11/21 07:40 AM
3

You should say “YES” according to the meme
/r/seduction11/11/21 05:44 PM
2

Don’t be disappointed, you can ride my python instead.
/r/MensRights22/10/21 06:57 AM
2

Lol, you are underestimating their secrecy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 07:14 AM
2

How about taking gaslighting for 1000?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 07:10 AM
1

Those aren't compliments lol, they are pity statements
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 07:01 AM
1

Would still smash ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:55 AM
1

I think it's more that having to live up to your own expectations will effect your performance while improving. The better mindset would be to aim and beat your old self by even a small achievement, this way you don't get demotivated
/r/seduction19/09/21 01:37 AM
1

Actually, it's easier to get an LTR as a guy if it's easy for him to get laid. Thus, the reverse also holds true "he just is himself and he likes himself." I get that you're trying to help but i don't think you've ever dated a woman before. Here's an example: Well, if he was being himself but not physically attractive, you would not even have considered looking at him with sexual intent. Being yourself (but being unattractive) lands you in the friendzone. Being yourself but being attractive land…
/r/seduction13/09/21 05:12 AM
1

Get surgery and learn dance? Chicks dig kpop now
/r/seduction13/09/21 12:21 AM
2

Just get plastic surgery. Go on looksmax forums and start there. Most guys here already assume you're moderately attractive if you aren'nt working to land women.
/r/seduction13/09/21 12:14 AM
2

"Confident people don't need to prove they're confident." Confidence is a byproduct of constant success. The only thing he can do right now is fake it, but he mentioned that it doesn't work. So give better advice
/r/seduction13/09/21 12:13 AM
1

Most research is already at r/blackpillscience
/r/seduction13/09/21 12:03 AM
17

I have a story about an attractive criminal with a crap attitude getting tons of women. Wanna hear it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 12:58 AM
1

Less space, living with parents, poor economy, shitty diets causing skinny fat bodies. Unhealthy conservatism and obsession with traditionally arranged marriage and lack of sex education. I live in the US now but it's extremely hard to get out of my shell here as you'll literally get lynched if you approach women in India and they don't like it at all.
/r/seduction31/08/21 10:15 AM
1

Plastic surgery is definitely an option still. Haven't you been watching tiktok?
/r/seduction31/08/21 10:09 AM
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