OrangeMonad Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
81	'Racism and sexism' indeed	Discrimination	OrangeMonad	/r/MensRights	25/04/19 04:44 PM

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
8	"Are men talking too much?" website/counter. I saw this counter on Tumblr (link in first comment): it has 90,000 likes or shares. There are more annoying things, but it could lead to negative attitudes to men speaking. The test is very simple. Replace “men” with literally any other group (women, black people, Muslims, etc.). If the statement would then be considered hateful (as it would be here), then it’s also hateful when referring to men. This is irrefutable yet this is completely lost on them.	/r/MensRights	15/10/19 02:28 AM
2	Misandrist movie tanks at box office. Feminist writer can’t understand why, I really hate how every story is now seen as representative of a larger picture instead of just the story of one person This was one of the defining features of Soviet art/film/literature, and we’re now seeing it with “woke” culture. Under this worldview, there is no such thing as art for art’s sake, or entertainment for entertainment’s sake. It all necessarily serves a purpose to further the “values” (e.g. desired narrative) of the makers. Essentially, it’s propaganda by a different name.	/r/MensRights	25/09/19 03:57 PM
0	Turns out the movie "Hustlers" really IS an immoral, anti-male pile of dog crap. What? RT (Russia Today) is literally and openly Russian, state-run media aimed at an English-speaking audience (e.g., America). This is not a “theory.” The goal of RT is to further Russian interests. This is all open and undisputed. It is also known that the Russians have sought to weaken American society by exploiting preexisting fractures around class, race, and gender. That does not make everything they write about automatically false (the best propaganda is based on truth, after all), but it…	/r/MensRights	14/09/19 05:32 PM
-3	Turns out the movie "Hustlers" really IS an immoral, anti-male pile of dog crap. Whether or not the article’s premise is correct, posting or upvoting Russian state-run propaganda here is not helpful to men’s rights. It will only be used to discredit this sub.	/r/MensRights	14/09/19 03:37 PM
1	MLK agrees. Feminism is cancer. Fair enough, maybe we are agreed. The point I am making is that it is constantly framed in the media, and by politicians, as “old white men” trying to infringe on women’s rights. That’s the part I am saying is false. Women’s rights is typically taken to mean rights that men historically denied to women - such as voting, the freedom to go into certain jobs, etc. Whereas with abortion, an equal number of women compared to men feel that it should be illegal.	/r/MensRights	07/07/19 09:09 PM
3	MLK agrees. Feminism is cancer. But abortion support is actually identical between the genders, meaning that the narrative that it is men oppressing women is demonstrably false (the polls are publicly available if anyone doesn’t believe me). There is certainly a legitimate debate to be had around abortion, but it is not a gender conflict one.	/r/MensRights	07/07/19 06:28 PM
2	MLK agrees. Feminism is cancer. The problem is that they frame it as women’s “rights” rather than discrimination / bias. So if they are really talking about discrimination / bias, they shouldn’t use the term “rights,” since as the other person pointed out, they already have equal rights. Furthermore, discrimination / bias shouldn’t be just presumed from a difference in outcomes.	/r/MensRights	07/07/19 06:25 PM
4	Comedy clubs that book Louis C.K. don’t care about their staff’s safety \| Female "comedian" thinks that the mere presence of a man who offended her is somehow threatening to everyone, so he must be permanently banned. Nothing. In these people’s worldview, Men are not the oppressed, they are the oppressors. That is the only distinction that matters. Therefore, they cannot feel or be unsafe - they can only make others feel that way.	/r/MensRights	26/06/19 04:04 PM
8	Gaming Company Razer Drops Streamer for Calling Men Trash, Says It's 'Extremism' You are free to vote with your dollars as you like, but I see this the opposite way actually. While it seems crazy that things have reached this point, too many companies would actually keep this woman on even after she made the comments. Razer’s stance of firing her actually seems mildly surprising in this day and age. So, I my view they should be supported for dumping her after she made the comments.	/r/MensRights	26/06/19 03:55 PM
1	Accusations don't mean shit prove it. In fact if you make a false accusation you should be charged as a criminal. Sounds like something only a misogynist would say. Edit: figured the /s was obvious, guess I should not assume	/r/MensRights	25/06/19 02:50 PM
5	We live in a clown world The problem is that the law bans “gender stereotypes” and there’s little chance that will be interpreted as protecting men just as much as women, simply because the claim (of the people pushing the law) is that the negative stereotypes are mostly for women. So I agree with your failing to change a nappie example, but I don’t think this is going to be equitable in practice. The new rule says that “advertisements must not include gender stereotypes that are likely to cause harm, or serious or wide…	/r/MensRights	22/06/19 04:55 PM
6	Fathers change diapers too. Always nice to see 1) positive news on this sub and 2) celebrities actually doing something to help rather than just virtue signaling or calling out others. Good stuff.	/r/MensRights	21/06/19 10:46 PM
6	National hiring experiments reveal 2:1 faculty preference for women on STEM tenure track Very interesting study. Not surprisingly, they mostly gloss over the issue that this shows a bias against men, only saying that it’s an issue to be considered. Our data suggest it is an auspicious time to be a talented woman launching a STEM tenure-track academic career, contrary to findings from earlier investigations alleging bias, none of which examined faculty hiring bias against female applicants in the disciplines in which women are underrepresented. Our research suggests that the mechanis…	/r/MensRights	21/06/19 09:52 PM
6	Alimony = instant early retirement! Graph shows workforce participation rates for women in different circumstances (never married, married, divorced, etc). Guess which group works the LEAST? Labor force participation typically measures only over the age of range of 15 to 64, so anyone 65+ would not be counted.	/r/MensRights	19/06/19 09:52 PM
1	Was Shakespeare a woman ? And it begins. More deluded theories from the cult that is trying to convince you that you have little value as a man. Not surprised that it’s from the Atlantic. Yes. There have been many examples of this happening, here are just a few: The petition says forcing students to read the works of William Shakespeare, John Milton and T.S. Eliot, among others, “creates a culture that is especially hostile to students of color.” https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/2/yale-students-shakespeare-requirement-creates-host/ I do not believe that I am “cheating” my students because we do not read Shakespeare. I do not believe that a long-dead, British guy is the…	/r/MensRights	11/06/19 11:50 PM
8	Nice to see chunky Male mannequins so as to not shame us into- wait, there aren't fat Male mannequins? Haha of course there aren't. Yes, but they aren’t celebrated as “brave” and the Facebook posts you’ll see on them are mostly as an object of humor.	/r/MensRights	11/06/19 02:41 AM
59	Yeah because women don't lie about it at all This has been called Kafka Trapping: https://www.thedailybell.com/all-articles/editorials/wendy-mcelroy-beware-of-kafkatrapping/	/r/MensRights	10/06/19 06:38 PM
26	Was Shakespeare a woman ? And it begins. More deluded theories from the cult that is trying to convince you that you have little value as a man. Not surprised that it’s from the Atlantic. Brought to you by the same people who think he should be removed from the curriculum because he isn’t “diverse” enough.	/r/MensRights	09/06/19 08:12 PM
1	Most Democrats Want A Woman Of Color To Become President Responded above.	/r/MensRights	31/05/19 04:59 PM
2	Most Democrats Want A Woman Of Color To Become President I'm surprised this is even controversial, as the way I see it, the left doesn't even try to hide the fact that they are openly voting/supporting based on race/gender. The OP article is frankly not very good (nor is the headline OP chose very accurate relative to the article). This Politico article is better. Self-identified very liberal voters—a fourth of Democrats who voted in the 2016 primaries—showed a very strong preference for women candidates (plus 15 percentage points compared with men) W…	/r/MensRights	31/05/19 04:59 PM
3	Most Democrats Want A Woman Of Color To Become President The goal should be non-discrimination. But if you vote for someone based on their race or gender, it is inherently discrimination, and only leads to divisive tribalism. Support for a candidate should be based on their policies, qualifications, personality, etc., not their race or gender. It blows me away that this is now a “right wing” idea.	/r/MensRights	31/05/19 04:25 PM
4	Most Democrats Want A Woman Of Color To Become President The candidate’s race and gender should be irrelevant or at least a very minor factor. If someone is saying, I will only vote for someone of a particular race and gender, that is discrimination and should be condemned. Instead people seem to be celebrating it.	/r/MensRights	31/05/19 04:09 PM
1	Most Democrats Want A Woman Of Color To Become President I want that idea to come back too, but I am starting to give up hope. Things will get worse before they get better. The underlying cause is the almost total shift in media (traditional and social) towards outrage generation for clicks. Stoking racial, gender, and class tensions is now not only profitable, but almost a requirement for a media company to stay in business. This is tearing our society apart in fundamental ways. Of course, Trump is also a catalyst for this as well - both from his act…	/r/MensRights	31/05/19 04:07 PM
7	Alabama abortion bill drafted by FEMALE legislator, signed by FEMALE governor, despite common claim it's just MEN legislating women's choice Yes, I would say that is accurate. The majority of both men and women in Alabama support the law - with the percentage equal between the genders. In fact, any Republican who doesn't vote for the law would be guaranteed to be ousted in the next primary. So whether people agree with the law or not, the state politicians are following the will of their electorate. Now, national attitudes about abortion are very different, and this is what media chooses to focus on, because outrage, and a narrative …	/r/MensRights	16/05/19 08:59 PM
13	Alabama abortion bill drafted by FEMALE legislator, signed by FEMALE governor, despite common claim it's just MEN legislating women's choice On a different subreddit, I made the following factual statement (including the Gallup source): "There is no significant difference in abortion views by gender. 47% of women call themselves “pro-life” vs. 49% of men." I wasn't banned, but I was downvoted and someone said "that dude is from MRA subreddits I wouldn't bother with him." They will selectively ignore any facts that don't fit the narrative by "othering" the source.	/r/MensRights	16/05/19 08:14 PM
6	Alabama abortion bill drafted by FEMALE legislator, signed by FEMALE governor, despite common claim it's just MEN legislating women's choice Exactly. Even with polls of Alabama specifically, an identical portion of men and women believe abortion should be legal (37% for Alabama). But in today's world, everything bad must be caused by men, white people, or the most odious of them all, white men. That is why the media coverage chooses to frame the villain here as "25 white male Republicans in Alabama," in the very first sentence of the article. Our society is being torn apart and I don't know if it will ever come back together.	/r/MensRights	16/05/19 08:10 PM
14	Can anyone explain to me why this sub is so villified? They include this sub in masstagger, which for anybody who doesn't know, is a tool some people use that automatically labels users based on the subs they post in. It supposedly is used to label "far-right reactionaries." A lot of the SJW types browse with this tool turned on. I've been called a "men's rights troll" before, when I was posting in a totally unrelated sub on a completely unrelated topic, and I suspect it's because of tools like this. It's Orwellian, anti-intellectual, and it stuns m…	/r/MensRights	06/05/19 10:40 PM
10	Stating your opinion vs drugging men In all seriousness, the most I can find is one tweet where he said “It’s ok to be white.” It’s a testament to our day and age that I’m wondering if that is the “evidence” for him being “pro ethnostate.”	/r/MensRights	03/05/19 03:11 AM
47	Stating your opinion vs drugging men Source for him being pro ethnostate?	/r/MensRights	02/05/19 11:06 PM
3	Feminist journalist from the editorial board of NYT proposes "Castration Lottery for men" She’s a shining example of the hatred and hypocrisy of the current social justice left, but this particular tweet appears to be fabricated. Her real tweets are rage inducing enough, making up and spreading fake ones only harms the cause.	/r/MensRights	28/04/19 05:32 PM
5	Gillette Is Feeling the Financial Burn Thanks to Their "Toxic Masculinity" Ad The problem is the spin that was immediately put upon the issue by the media, framing up all of the opposition to the ad as “alt-right,” “sexist,” or “online misogynist trolls.” Within a day of the ad launching, the usual suspects (Vox, Slate, Salon, Jezebel, etc.) had already released articles that ended up being shared heavily (mostly among women). In fact Vox’s headline was “Why Gillette’s toxic masculinity ad is annoying both sexists and feminists,” and look at how they describe the controve…	/r/MensRights	26/04/19 03:19 PM
10	'Racism and sexism' indeed For most of us, what we were taught growing up was that you should judge others by the content of their character and their actions, not by their race or gender. I.e., that we should eliminate discrimination and strive to have a race and gender blind society. The left and the Dems have fully abandoned this, and amazingly, it's the Republicans who now seem to be the sole bastion of this ideal. To the current left, if you're NOT making a big deal about race or gender, you are the bigot. Equality o…	/r/MensRights	25/04/19 07:23 PM
9	'Racism and sexism' indeed Agreed and my intent in posting this was not to defend Biden. But criticisms of him should focus on his behavior and record, not his race or gender. It seems that journalists have no qualms about doing that though.	/r/MensRights	25/04/19 06:09 PM
7	Reddit is sometimes very redpilled... We celebrate a all-female flight crew as being diverse (no blacks, no asians, no hispanics on board)... Couldn’t agree more, and I’ve noticed that this is a common issue with “progressive” thinking today. They just don’t think things through to their logical conclusions. It’s not that they have some different theory of how things will turn out - they really just don’t think beyond the most immediate consequences of what they’re advocating.	/r/MensRights	21/04/19 07:14 PM
3	Reddit is sometimes very redpilled... We celebrate a all-female flight crew as being diverse (no blacks, no asians, no hispanics on board)... There’s also the fact that, historically, most commercial airline pilots were originally trained by the military. That percentage has gone down over time, but among the older generation of pilots, it’s one of the reasons there were so few women. The applicant pool of trained pilots was just overwhelmingly men.	/r/MensRights	21/04/19 07:12 PM
3	The Problem for Women Is Not Winning. It’s Deciding to Run. \| When feminists whine about too few female politicians, you can tell them it's entirely women's fault. The fact that women have greater in-group gender bias (with men having almost none) has actually been well studied and, as I understand, is broadly accepted within the scientific community: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/2c44/14cde6b6a011e9f4910e6389d658278e3a7a.pdf Feminists will answer this by saying that this applies only for certain things and that women are still seen as less fit for leadership roles like elected office. However, I haven’t seen much research specific to elections, as most…	/r/MensRights	11/04/19 03:44 PM
6	The Problem for Women Is Not Winning. It’s Deciding to Run. \| When feminists whine about too few female politicians, you can tell them it's entirely women's fault. When women run for political office, they are just as likely as men to be elected I would argue that this has shifted since the article was written (2016). Women I have talked to openly admit that they prefer voting for other women, and will choose a woman over a man all things being equal (because women are underrepresented). On the other hand, there does not appear to a similar pro-male bias among male voters (in fact I would argue that the more left leaning male voters actually have some pro-…	/r/MensRights	11/04/19 03:04 PM
11	"Man-Up" - Statistics Tell Us That American Boys Are Falling Behind In Just About Every Area. Feminists play a zero-sum game. Yep. They would burst into a rage about how men dominate corporate boards, congress, the wage gap, etc. To them, a 12 year old boy struggling in school has more in common with a 68 year old man in the top 0.01% sitting on some Fortune 500 board, than he does with the 12 year old girl sitting next to him.	/r/MensRights	10/04/19 09:56 PM
1	Nearly Half of Men Believe the Pay Gap Is 'Made Up,' Survey Finds \| The truth is slowly getting through, especially with younger men. It's the worst kind of lie - the kind that is technically true but grossly misleading about reality. It's like if you told your kid you'd buy them a car for their 18th birthday. You talk about this every day for years. They are excited out of their mind. When it arrives, you give them a $5 toy car from the grocery store. When people like Elizabeth Warren say it, they know full well that they are misleading people. Journalists won't call it out because they don't want to "punch down." And because…	/r/MensRights	04/04/19 04:11 PM
1	UK: Women fall even further behind men on graduate pay: Rise in earnings for male leavers is more than double that of female counterparts, figures show. OP: Does not take into account what was studied at University. Gender studies 100% female : Maths 70% male. It defies all logic, but they completely reject the possibility of differing interests between the genders. They even have a name for it, blank slate theory, although they treat it more as a self-evident “fact” than a theory. If you suggest otherwise, they call it pseudoscience or “hate.”	/r/MensRights	29/03/19 09:31 PM
9	UK: Women fall even further behind men on graduate pay: Rise in earnings for male leavers is more than double that of female counterparts, figures show. OP: Does not take into account what was studied at University. Gender studies 100% female : Maths 70% male. You are 100% correct, but they have an answer for everything. For example, they will just say that mining engineering is paid more because it’s mostly men, and kindergarten teachers are paid less because they are mostly women. Or they will say that it’s the “toxic bro culture” of mining engineering that keeps out women, and will trot out an anecdote of one of the 3% female miners who was catcalled or doubted because she was a woman.	/r/MensRights	29/03/19 03:24 PM
1	Dad being a Dad The Gillette ad that could have been...	/r/MensRights	20/03/19 05:34 AM
1	The economy is failing young men Interesting idea. But how would you prevent Congress from going around it (OK UBI stays at $1000, but you now also get $500 in supplemental)? And also, since UBI is mostly premised on replacing existing safety net programs, how would you stop them from simply adding them back, or even adding new ones? The cries of UBI not being a living wage will be very difficult for Congress to resist.	/r/MensRights	09/03/19 06:19 PM
5	The economy is failing young men The risks are mainly political. Meaning, if we lived in a "benevolent dictatorship," it might work, but our current democracy I think it would be disastrous. The UBI level he's proposing ($1,000/mo) is not enough to live on even at current price levels. If it's passed, there will immediately be significant political pressure to increase it, and people living primarily off of UBI will be a critical voting bloc. The higher UBI gets, the more people will rely on it rather than employment. Even if 5…	/r/MensRights	09/03/19 12:27 AM
2	The economy is failing young men I honestly don’t know much about the rest of his platform, but he’s mostly known for UBI, and his proposal there has the potential to be an economic disaster. I understand the reasoning for it, and I’ve read his webpage explaining it, but I think he seriously underestimates the long term risks.	/r/MensRights	08/03/19 07:59 PM
-2	The economy is failing young men If it was absolutely guaranteed that the UBI would stay at $1,000 / mo as he proposes (maybe with inflation adjustments), and if all other welfare spending truly went away, I’d consider supporting it. But we know that won’t happen - the second the $1,000 / mo rolls out, there will be agitation to increase it because it doesn’t cover the cost of living. Soon it will be $1,500, then $2,000 etc. The 10% VAT he proposes will become 15%, 20% and so on. The number of people living off of UBI will incr…	/r/MensRights	08/03/19 07:53 PM
11	Google Moves to Address Wage Equity, and Finds It’s Underpaying Many Men - The New York Times I have access to salary data where I work and this doesn’t surprise me. Not because we intentionally pay men less (we don’t, nor do we pay women less), but a large percentage of our female workforce is absolutely convinced that they are underpaid because they are told this again and again by the media, books, women’s groups etc. So, in the last few years they’ve increasingly been pushing for salary increases. They are not paid less on average, but by definition half are below the average so some…	/r/MensRights	05/03/19 03:24 AM
9	Nearly half of US female scientists leave full-time science after first child Here’s the thing. I don’t judge them for dropping out, it’s certainly possible that’s the right decision for them and their family. Providing a good upbringing for your kids is extremely important, and it’s not always possible to predict how your family will shape up while you’re doing thing like go through grad school. What I absolutely DO judge them for is when they (or more likely, not them but feminists who were never in science to begin with), come back and are outraged that the representat…	/r/MensRights	23/02/19 05:36 AM
6	You can only follow a woman and she must be of color. Yes, by the US Government’s definition. Middle-eastern (she is of Palestinian descent) is considered white.	/r/MensRights	14/02/19 05:39 AM
3	All-Girl Troops Join the Boy Scouts of America: No Boys Allowed No, you misunderstand me. I am not saying Girl Scouts is being hypocritical; in fact I support their position. The Girl Scouts organization is actually against what BSA did. It is the feminists and other activists who pushed for girls in Boy Scouts who are hypocritical. They rail against organizations focused on boys/men, yet not only tolerate the equivalent for girls/women, but actually are some of the biggest advocates for them. In their worldview, organizations composed solely of females are …	/r/MensRights	10/02/19 10:22 AM
9	All-Girl Troops Join the Boy Scouts of America: No Boys Allowed For over a hundred years, boys had Boy Scouts and girls had Girl Scouts. Now, Boy Scouts will have all-girl troops, but boys remain excluded from Girl Scouts. Do you not see the hypocrisy here? Yes, there is currently no mixing at the troop level, but those calls will come in a few years after a sufficient number of girls have joined, and, especially, after enough women are in the national leadership. I can even predict how it will start - in locations where there aren’t enough local girls to ha…	/r/MensRights	10/02/19 06:47 AM
28	All-Girl Troops Join the Boy Scouts of America: No Boys Allowed It is not about equality. How much longer will the ruse fool people? They will continue destroying every male organization, hobby, publication and anything else where men can be together as a group. It will never stop, because to them anything that has a “male” identity is intolerable. Especially rich is the comment in the article where the feminist says that the true victims here are actually the girls.	/r/MensRights	09/02/19 11:17 PM
14	Suicide rate among UK men at lowest since 1981 It seems like good news is rare, but this is good to hear, and it’s encouraging that the intervention efforts seem to be making progress. I have to say, I’m somewhat surprised BBC didn’t frame this up as “Percentage of Female Suicides on the rise!”	/r/MensRights	05/02/19 06:47 AM
23	Why does the feminist movement hate you? I agree with this description and would go even further. Many feminists, especially the “thought leaders” of the movement, have at the root of their ideology something called conflict theory (the link from the previous comment gives a good overview). This means that, instead of having specific grievances they want addressed, they look at men as an oppressor class that needs to be overthrown, just the same as Marx looked at the capitalists as oppressing the working class. Just like Marx, they see…	/r/MensRights	04/02/19 06:32 AM
22	According to insiders, a (female) vice president of Procter & Gamble recently told a 100-strong meeting: "I will never promote a straight, white man again." It is no longer about achieving equality with white men, removing discrimination etc. Instead they view white men as an oppressing class that needs to be overthrown and replaced.	/r/MensRights	17/01/19 04:38 PM
5	The Gillette commercial is a calculated strategy that highlights female privilege Here's a good illustration of that. As soon as the ad came out, I knew that the following day we'd see hundreds of articles in the mainstream echo chamber framing up all opposition to the ad as misogynist / sexist. Sure enough, here's the Vox headline: Why Gillette’s toxic masculinity ad is annoying both sexists and feminists Apparently the only valid reason to be upset is because toxic masculinity is too grave a problem to be used to sell products - otherwise if you don't love the ad, you are c…	/r/MensRights	16/01/19 10:39 PM
7	The Gillette commercial is a calculated strategy that highlights female privilege I had the same thought as you initially, but several of the women I have talked to about it (not online) seem genuinely surprised that the reaction is so negative. They watched the ad, found it to be inspiring (even literally tear-inducing), and seemed to believe men would view it the same way. It's like they viewed a different version of the ad. When I asked about specific parts that I think most of us here found most offensive, they "didn't remember it that way" or seemed to think that "wasn't…	/r/MensRights	16/01/19 10:17 PM