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I think the "wait three days" thing goes back to before we had mobile phones to be honest. It makes more sense if you think about it. You meet a random at the mall, exchange numbers. You then finish the remainder of your shopping and go home. You open the door and hear the phone is ring. You answer, it's them. It's a bit weird. But also in those days a spontaneous lay/hookup just happened then and there. You probably won't even have each other's phone number. Equally then because most people soc…
/r/seduction12/05/26 04:18 PM
1

I just trust my gut more. I used to have a bad habit of hesitating when things were going my way and trying to hard to make them go my way when they weren't. I also adopted the mindset not to waste my time on people who came across as indifferent or try to make someone indifferent feel more motivated. Basically if it isn't 'fuck yes' from them, it's fuck no from me. I've shed the 'salesman' mindset, and instead feel the truth is closer to "if I have to change their opinion of me to proceed, I ha…
/r/seduction11/05/26 01:28 PM
3

Unsurprising, it's toxic AF. It promotes an idea that anyone's lack of interest can be overridden. It's like the kind of sales training they give door to door encyclopedia salesmen. The goal isn't for people to enjoy the encyclopedia, the goal is closing the deal regardless of it being a bad one or not
/r/seduction08/05/26 02:39 PM
2

Eye contact, smile. Reciprocated? Great? Obviously not interested? Move on.
/r/seduction08/05/26 02:34 PM
7

I spent a long time hating the fact that I was getting greenlit obviously by women I was at best indifferent about and nowhere with the ones I was. It's why I've mostly gone to a more passive 'show up, have fun, que sera sera' approach. The overall results have been way better.
/r/seduction07/05/26 08:47 PM
3

Just chill with all of it. I only put any effort beyond having a good conversation these days. If the vibes are right and she's single then very often she's the one saying "take my number" when I start to wrap things up, and when I do call, it's much much more straightforward moving things to subsequent levels vs when I ask for contact details and get them but then they don't reply or don't seem that engaged when they do. There have been a couple recently where I was kicking myself for not askin…
/r/seduction07/05/26 08:43 PM
6

Yes and no. I always had the social rizz but was also a victim of a sex negative and rather socially conservative upbringing that caused me to have the absolute fear and tap out when things should have been getting easier. Took years to get out of my own head about it.
/r/seduction30/04/26 06:42 PM
1

Of course if you ever read what women say about being approached they claim to hate comments/compliments based on their level of attractiveness.
/r/seduction27/04/26 12:14 PM
1

idk what youre trying to say there, I mean generally if I'm in a one on one it's because I've already approached them. Otherwise why are we one on one with nobody around unless it's at work or a public place with nobody around, which for me would be inappropriate most/all of the time.
/r/seduction26/04/26 03:57 AM
1

I think it's not even fear of rejection but fear of being rejected in front of others that is the problem for a lot of people, and that ties into how some guys are frankly disgusting towards women over message because the perceived privacy of DMing someone vs making a move in public causes them to lose all the (excessive) elf-moderating stopping them from actually talking to women IRL and overcompensate in the opposite direction so they start sending unsolicited dick pics or sending messages the…
/r/seduction25/04/26 09:10 PM
2

I don't even think it's a case of 'easy or hard' - I think for a lot of people it's conditioning. I had 'helicopter parents' who micromanaged my life during my teenage years, actively discouraged me from having girlfriends or a relationship "until I completed my studies", and disapproved of many of my friends apart from the nerdy ones that were all about the grades but also seriously lacked social skills/popularity. That 100% held me back, I also got quite a lot of psychological bullying directe…
/r/seduction25/04/26 09:03 PM
1

I'm 49, lucky enough to look young for my age. Dating apps are pointless but in the last fifteen years all my partners have been 15-20 years younger than me, and I'm currently casually dating a 21 year old. Obviously I'm aware of negative stigmas so I very much am chill/hands off with them until I get an obvious greenlight or they make the first move.
/r/seduction15/04/26 07:58 PM
3

Bartending
/r/seduction08/04/26 12:02 AM
4

They lie you know.
/r/seduction07/04/26 03:14 PM
1

Sounds like a you problem. Try being somewhere with a tenth of that population and so on.
/r/seduction29/03/26 11:20 PM
2

Barely seeing someone and them asking you to be a plus one and also being cool sleeping at your house is more likely to be looking at it with a view to a date than a mutual hangout. People on the whole go to weddings with people they're dating and want to be seen with, not a random inflatable so it looks like they don't have options. Dude, get out of your own way here, or you'll keep second-guessing yourself out of any potential action.
/r/seduction27/03/26 11:08 PM
2

That was a popular look for quite a few years. Full length leather coat, those small shades, excessive hairgel
/r/seduction25/03/26 07:39 PM
12

Sneaky? Hardly.
/r/seduction21/03/26 10:55 PM
1

And I'm saying they don't even need to see you with your partner, they can just somehow sense it. Like maybe if you and your GF had sex with in the last 12 hours, even if you've had a proper shower since, either you're giving off some specific pheoromones or there's some biologocal mixing of her 'sexually satisfied' biocodes with your own pheromones that caused them to be somehow different, they can somehow tell.
/r/seduction16/03/26 11:40 PM
5

Dude I'm just doing the groceries and putting fuel in the car, and if they're aesthetically to my liking of course they're getting glances. But also I'm generally outgoing and chatty in day to day interactions anyway. Nah I'm sticking with the pheremone thing.
/r/seduction15/03/26 07:53 AM
36

Well no, it's not - because your partner doesn't even have to be there or visible to them. It's more like a pheromone thing I think. Last time I was in an LTR it was mad how I got IOIs, flirty chat, got female gas station attendants I'd never met asking me what I was doing later that evening after they finished work etc etc. I've only ever had that level of really obvious "I want you" type flirting when I've been off the market. And literally as soon as we'd broken up it went back to being me ha…
/r/seduction15/03/26 01:10 AM
8

Depends on how you have 'fun'. If you're slamming shots and getting shitfaced then yeah, you're not doing yourself any favours. If you're a social butterfly and half the people in the room recognise you and give you positive attention, you're easy-going with everyone, make them laugh etc then you're way ahead of most other people that barely talk to anyone other than the people they're there with.
/r/seduction14/03/26 10:18 PM
11

Depends on the social circle. Absolutely in my 20s yes. In my 40s not so much as most of my friends are married/in LTRs/have kids and as a result tend to socialise with other parents and couples. Lately it's been meeting people at festivals or bumping into my favourite customers in other venues when I'm off the clock (I'm a bartender)
/r/seduction14/03/26 10:14 PM
123

As soon as you're officially 'taken' and off the market your sexual magnetism increases tenfold and women start throwing themselves at you.
/r/seduction14/03/26 10:10 PM
1

The thing that really made a difference for me is just generally being more outgoing with literally everyone vs before when I used to keep myself to myself unless other people engaged me first. Like now I actively make eye contact and smile at everyone in the venue even if they're big and aggressive looking dudes or absolute smokeshow supermodel looking women. And because I've been bartending full time for the last five years I've got much better at talking to people but also dealing with potent…
/r/seduction07/03/26 05:19 AM
2

That has happened to me a few times. Sometimes 'friendship' included frequent sex. Sometimes not. One we were FWBs for two years, had a great time then it went to shit after we made it official even though we basically had been BF/GF in all but name beforehand. Every situation is different.
/r/seduction04/03/26 08:34 PM
4

But it doesn't. I've had enough things sizzle out where it became apparent they just wanted people to give them attention or spend all night chatting saying they want to see me but then never seeing a plan through to actually meet, or suddenly be like "I'm seeing someone now" after three weeks of flirty chat or sexting. And of course it's someone who lives round the corner they can see whenever they feel like it rather than me who lives 100 miles away and has to be planning a meet a week in adva…
/r/seduction04/03/26 07:25 PM
4

Distance and time management is the main sticking point for me as well. It's like a desert in my area. Lots of under 21s, plenty of older people. Dead in the 25-45 demographic which is my sweet spot. Also people tend to be kinda dull or if not dull, incompatible hobbies and interests. I don't really start to get matches until I'm looking at about a 200 mile return trip to try and meet up. Yes I've had a little success despite that hurdle but the ratio of win to loss doesn't make me want to keep …
/r/seduction04/03/26 07:22 PM
1

Yeah, this has actually worked. We kissed as we fucked and it wasn't even really a date apart from one of us joked about 'it might as well be a date' earlier on.
/r/seduction01/03/26 01:38 AM
2

Once I hit 40 all of a sudden I was getting way more interest from younger women. Including quite a few I'd consider a bit too young.
/r/seduction27/02/26 08:59 AM
1

Not that I'm aware of, but who knows.
/r/seduction24/02/26 10:46 PM
2

Yeah, sadly I was cursed by what now works in my favour. I looked like a child at 18, didn't even start puberty til 19. I'd answer the phone and callers would assume I was my mother and just start talking at me. 30 years later and if people guess my age, they consistently say 33-35 (and they're not saying it to get on my good side). But also (I later found out due to bad experiences of their own) my parents basically discouraged me from having friendships/relationships with women in a rather ins…
/r/seduction08/02/26 12:18 AM
2

As much as anything, getting diagnosed with AuDHD, unpacking a lot about my childhood etc etc. Also working full time behind a bar in a popular night venue helped me get over a lot of the shyness and made me start to feel actually desired by women I'd have previously been too in my head to approach even for random chit chat rather anything deeper. You get seen working your ass off making sure everyone has a good time, is safe. Dealing with problematic customers in a firm but fair way. Being the …
/r/seduction08/02/26 12:02 AM
12

Honestly I think because it's low-key expected of us by society. If you're single, you're seen as a better prospect if you're regularly sexually active, bacause you have 'options'. If you're not single, the thought of a line of other women waiting for their turn will subconsciously keep a partner from becoming complacent that she 'has' you no matter what (this was made clear by my ex who was an amazing GF for three years, then we had a deep convo where I thought I was reassuring her by saying I …
/r/seduction06/02/26 06:22 PM
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Yeah, plus there's something about the thrill of travel and the knowledge you don't have to be round those people any longer than you want to be is something of an aphrodisiac. I stayed in a party hostel in Prague for ten days about a decade ago, my shit wasn't dialled in like it is nowadays but I still had a good time in a way that being in my normal environment would not have been able to deliver.
/r/seduction06/02/26 05:56 PM
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Is this 'dating' or seduction? If the main aim is casual, mostly likely one off sexual encounters then planning things in terms of 'dates' is 100% negatively affecting results. Unfortunately I didn't properly learn this lesson until my late 30s. Otherwise I'd have been absolutely slaying in my 20s when I had attractive women round me all the time, every time I went out I came home with 5 or 6 numbers of women who seemed really keen until I called them and tried to get them out on dates first bef…
/r/seduction06/02/26 05:21 PM
8

Actually it's not. I assumed the same but then I started putting it out there as an option (not as the default suggestion) not expecting people would go for it. I might only get a match every six weeks but when they do go somewhere, about a third agreed to either come straight over or meet somewhere and 'go for a drive' which has ended back at my place or theirs. NB I live in a more rural area and a lot of women don't like being seen out and about in the local pubs and bars because everybody kno…
/r/seduction06/02/26 04:55 PM
1

Depends if they actually mean it or not. Could be cute/funny/playful, or could be kinda creepy depending
/r/seduction06/02/26 04:13 AM
1

Maybe that varies by region but I find as a 40something male the average intelligence, education and even overall general knowledge level of women locally is just not at a level I can relate to. I'm not an intellectual snob but I can't be with someone who isn't interested in learning as a daily activity or won't attempt to peer behind the veil of societal consensus (whilst also not being the kind of conspiraloon who lets people like Alex Jones think for them).
/r/seduction04/02/26 09:53 PM
29

I'm actually dating one of the hottest, funniest and all round coolest women I've ever met for this reason and it's all come from giving her a ride home from an event after her planned one fell through and a mutual friend said I had room in the car and was headed the same way. That was the best possible 2hrs 45 mins going from total strangers to 'oh damn, we like the same shit and have good banter' to having each other on socials for a few months with minimal interaction, to a random message fro…
/r/seduction02/02/26 09:05 PM
1

So I'm dating someone who ticks all my boxes on that level (eye of the beholder, I'm sure) at the moment, basically we met through a mutual friend at a festival last summer - she needed a ride home because her previous arrangement didn't work out. I was already headed that way, it was a two hour drive that felt like fifteen minutes, we were making each other laugh, finishing each other's movie quotes and generally just vibing. We added each other on socials and that was about it until a couple o…
/r/seduction02/02/26 06:31 PM
3

I literally don't have it in me. I save that for when someone has genuinely upset me, and I will demolish them. Otherwise, life's already too full of bad energy for me to want to add more.
/r/seduction31/01/26 02:38 PM
2

Tbh I like those kind of connections. Especially as when I am having a party weekend it tends to not be in my city. So I have a lot of people I've met at clubs/festivals/friend's birthdays etc on my socials. Some I might never see again. Others, like this weekend just gone, will text me out of the blue saying they're in my town and ask if I wanna see them/hang out/if they can stay at mine etc. And vice versa, when I'm up seeing my mates I'll bump into one and the night improves
/r/seduction28/01/26 10:42 PM
1

Yeah because although sex is an intimate act, it's not actually intimacy per se. Like, sometimes you want to just wrap up in each other's arms and legs, have a sleep, wake up and feel.... Well, nice. Relaxed. Safe.
/r/seduction28/01/26 10:29 PM
5

I'm finding the opposite problem. Hardly anyone I meet or have a casual thing with meets my standards for anything more than that.
/r/seduction27/01/26 04:35 PM
1

Depends. Become a regular at a cool club, befriend all the workers from bathroom attendants to bar staff to bouncers. If you're a known face in the kind of venue that is known to be exclusive and hard to get into because it's cool and vibey, you're winning.
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:11 PM
1

In this country the only clubs that have VIP zones are aimed at foreign tourists and idiots.
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:09 PM
1

You have to enjoy the music they play in any given club. I prefer more hard edged banging underground stuff. I can't enjoy myself at the kind of places that play cheesy chart music, and therefore I struggle to make a good impression (unless she also doesn't like the music then it's a shared talking point). But when the music is pushing all my good buttons, I'm in the zone, results improve.
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:08 PM
1

Well, no, I'm not actually following that as a plan. But I did notice it in the past, once or twice. But not everyone is like that. Maybe I'm just unlucky to have met too many of that type of person and not enough of the ones who appreciate a more honest approachb
/r/seduction06/01/26 11:21 PM
1

I hate that it is like this but I have better results keeping people guessing than I do being open about things
/r/seduction06/01/26 09:27 PM
3

I find this on apps more than out in real life. And the ones that are liking me on the apps... It's not just them not being my type, it's the other way round, too. Fashion style, music taste, hobbies and interests, lifestyle, diet blah blah. I suppose they might be swiping right on everyone but I was always under the impression women didn't need to do that.
/r/seduction05/01/26 05:26 PM
1

It's odd,, I'm not really a hip hop guy (listen to mostly electronic, jazz and sometimes a bit of metal or 90s alt rock if I'm feeling nostalgic), but I recently changed hat type over to snapbacks and started rocking a couple of chunky chains and I get way way more interest and compliments on my appearance than ever. But then I pair them with vintage record label and band Ts and now it's winter, big faux fur jackets. Might not work for everyone everywhere, but for me it has. Can also go to just …
/r/seduction03/01/26 07:36 PM
2

I get matches but most of them have so little in common I'm never sure why that person in particular would actually match with me. In the real world I do OK, on the apps I only seem to get likes and matches from the ones that aren't my type in the slightest.
/r/seduction01/01/26 05:40 PM
6

Is it still a thing in southern France for women of a certain age to get the 'garçon' short haircut and start acting like they're 80 years old even if they're not? I am fortunate enough to be experiencing an upswing of interest from attractive women in early 20s at the age of 48 than at any point in life (and more attractive in general than any who ever looked twice at me at any point in my life up until I was in my early 40s). I still look mostly the same, but splitting up with my long term par…
/r/seduction30/12/25 08:58 PM
1

Yeah, I'd confirm that based on my own experiences. Being a visible and dare I say it, popular bartender in a busy pub has definitely improved things.
/r/seduction29/11/25 11:55 PM
21

Yeah but if you're so not-bothered in the moment that you don't take advantage of the flocking, but then four hours later when you're on your own and now feel horny AF, it's still annoying.
/r/seduction01/10/25 09:22 PM
2

Even this post is problematic. You're essentially saying "be vulnerable, but don't be if she finds it a burden"...? Well, what if I am shouldering some really heavy burden(s) right now myself, but just need a little empathy and understanding? If I'm being vulnerable about whatever my issues are, 100% I'm not looking for the person I'm telling about to share the load, I just need them to understand I'm in the weeds right now and could use a little consideration, or not to be burdened with extra b…
/r/seduction22/08/25 10:47 PM
2

Depends. If you leave them wanting more they will probably initiate next time. If you were wishywashy about it, then it's over.
/r/seduction20/08/25 04:28 PM
1

Some will be into it, others not. I'm in my mid-40s and some 20somethings are still attracted to me and make it obvious, others think I'm too old. End of the day, everyone has their own likes and dislikes. Just avoid asking reddit as it's full of people who aren't getting laid who will call you a nonce if there's more than five years difference between you.
/r/seduction19/08/25 05:56 PM
1

It's a TV entertainment show. Fantasy. The fact you gotta ask is kinda troubling if I'm honest.
/r/seduction16/08/25 12:30 AM
1

Did you call/facetime first to check they were legit? I was once so stressed out because I got a quick same day lay like that off Bumble a few years ago. Not only were her photos smoking hot, but the whole thing happened so easily and smoothly that I was seriously doubting anyone would actually show up, or if they did it would be catfish time. Was amazed when she turned up looking even better and smelling amazing.
/r/seduction10/08/25 05:26 AM
3

Women in my area less quick to get into a car with you unless they've met you 2 - 3 times.
/r/seduction10/08/25 05:13 AM
3

So she pulled you basically ;)
/r/seduction10/08/25 05:10 AM
1

Most of the usual suspects. FB, Insta, Snapchat etc etc
/r/seduction04/08/25 08:59 PM
3

Change "you're very physically attractive" to "you're very attractive to me because x reason specific to her" - the result would probably improve. Women know they're attractive because they spend a lot of time, energy and money look maxing. What they appreciate hearing from you is why you like them. And points if it's something less obvious, a small detail, but something they care about too. Not everyone is into the tattoo thing but one of the things if I'm cold approaching in a public place tha…
/r/seduction04/08/25 06:51 PM
6

I have a lot of followers and engagement. Doesn't make that much difference as far as I can see. But I mostly focus on meeting people offline nowadays.
/r/seduction04/08/25 06:39 PM
2

Absolutely a case of playing to your strengths. I might get overlooked by some women because I'm not "athletic" (I'm not in bad shape for my age but it's not like I have chiseled anything) but being an outgoing, warm empath who is also funny but not a pushover is what gets me laid.
/r/seduction02/08/25 03:31 AM
1

For me it boils down to something more basic than if women are attracted to you or within your reach. Because I'm sure almost every guy other than the bitterest of self-identified 'incel' types, if pressed, will say "well, yes there have been some women who expressed an interest, but I didn't like them for X reasons". I've been bitter about my lack of options in the past, either for serious relationships or just casual hookups. But then it wasn't like I had zero options at all, just that the opt…
/r/seduction31/07/25 09:39 PM
2

We all do. Even he does. We do sorta joke that we can't actually go out for a quiet drink and a chat without him getting approached by random women who derail he conversation. He is a fairly well-respected DJ which obviously gets him out and about but it can't just be that. First off, most of my friendship circle, myself included, are DJs/Producers etc and are/have been at some point, quite high profile. And second if we are just chilling and having a chat, but getting approached, it's not usual…
/r/seduction31/07/25 08:07 PM
2

Personally, no and as a general rule not normally unless you're a 14 year old emogoth, but my homie has been going through the shit lately and he can't seem to go anywhere without really attractive women hitting on him all the time. He's not super handsome or anything but does crack a good dad joke.
/r/seduction31/07/25 02:10 AM
5

Opinions are kinda polarised when it comes to that. Yes, some don't care, sometimes even prefer it, others call you a cradlesnatcher, or worse.
/r/seduction27/07/25 08:25 PM
2

Depends. I work in one so I get to know a lot of the student community but it's like 90% undergrads, so there's a bit of an issue there if you're a bit older.
/r/seduction27/07/25 06:41 PM
6

Good, at least you were tuned in enough to notice. As a guy I often cringe seeing other guys doing what are obviously (to me) highly performative routines that aren't rooted in authenticity or truth, and they very often work. And I think that is why a lot of guys feel a little powerless because they can see their peers basically lying themselves into dates, sex etc, get what they want, drop the poor woman like a hot potato, creating yet more ill will towards men in general. They say to themselve…
/r/seduction26/07/25 08:12 PM
19

It's not really the same thing at all. There's a huge difference between deliberately behaving towards a person in a certain way to advance your agenda, and becoming a person women want to approach or be approached by. One of the results of self-improvement is that you will get more women. But self-improvement purely for the end goal of getting more women isn't self improvement at all and it won't fix the issue because it seems/is disingenuous. Do it for yourself first and foremost.
/r/seduction26/07/25 07:42 PM
6

Honestly it's probably why most women I've been with in the last couple of years have met me through being regular visitors where I work. As a bartender/manager/occasional door supervisor, I am consistently pleasant, polite and professional but occasionally if someone is misbehaving I might have to "show my teeth' a little and deal with them in a firm but fair manner. But also whilst still remaining unstressed and making sure my other guests are still having fun. That last bit is actual tangible…
/r/seduction26/07/25 07:38 PM
2

That could be why then. Either he was boring her friend, or potentially her friend didn't like either of you and wanted out even if you were vibing with the first girl. As a general rule I prefer to talk to women on their own or part of a larger group. I find two women on their own often are out because they want to have deep and meaningful conversations with each other, and woman B will steer woman A away from you even if you're obviously having a good time together. Either woman B doesn't like…
/r/seduction21/07/25 06:57 AM
5

God. No. Sales jobs (especially outbound, cold calling, lead generation etc) are soul destruction unless you're actually a salesperson. I did several in my 20s and it did 0 for my relationship skills, and nor was I good at it (account management on the other hand, supporting existing customers is my real skill set). Bartending on the other had has exponentially improved my people skills and particularly when it comes to talking to attractive women I would previously have thought were out of my l…
/r/seduction19/07/25 06:23 PM
6

Yep, I've been on a couple of dates with a 24 year old and the vibes are electric in person but texting is dry, to the point and no emojis anywhere. I have to admit I find it really refreshing, but equally if we'd met on an app rather than through my work, I'd assume she was not at all interested. And in fact we only ended up going out because we bumped into each other in town on a day neither of us had any plans so it just kinda happened.
/r/seduction18/07/25 08:04 PM
45

I remember I'd quit smoking for about a year, then I moved to a country where it was still not banned in public and also cigarettes were really cheap. I'd already passively smoked a lot in the weeks since I'd arrived and had one of those 'fuck it' moments and bought a pack. I was just opening it when an attractive woman asked me for a light, we got chatting and ended up going back to mine and having a very fun night. This basically led to me relapsing into smoking cigarettes again for nearly a y…
/r/seduction17/07/25 06:29 PM
1

Definitely not where I live, it's the same here minus the airboats
/r/seduction15/07/25 05:42 AM
2

I'm assuming being Florida it's basicly mostly retired and people with mullets and droopy moustaches named 'Skeeter' who chew tobacco and go everywhere in those airboat things?
/r/seduction15/07/25 03:27 AM
1

Under 60?Ha! Might be easier if you were open to dating GILFs 🤔
/r/seduction15/07/25 02:40 AM
2

I work in a pub and I have my work cut out for me serving beers to 50—100 customers. Maybe maximum a minute to two minutes every time I serve them, the time it takes to serve the drink and take payment - five or six hours of that and I'm brain dead afterwards lol
/r/seduction15/07/25 02:39 AM
4

Being somewhere really busy like central train station in a capital city, I guess. It does seem like a bit of an exaggeration, unless they're literally counting saying 'hi' to someone as 'approach'. Even if you consider the average interaction might be a minute long that's a solid hour to hour and a half of talking to people. And IDK about these people but ar they even discerning about who they talk to or is it literally every member of their chosen gender that they start talking to? I mean, eve…
/r/seduction15/07/25 02:24 AM
3

I usually only ever go out solo (although often to places where there are quite a few people I know, I'm not there WITH anybody). I actually prefer this as I can come and go when I please and not be upsetting people because I didn't spend enough time with them etx etc. The thing that has helped me a lot recently is simply dressing cooler. But different from the majority of others. I've got this kinda hybrid look going on that works almost everywhere. It's kinda equal parts rave/hip hop/metal att…
/r/seduction07/07/25 08:36 PM
2

The idea of telling their female friends that they are going on a date with someone they met on a club makes them feel dirty, slutty,... It's just not a good loo and every one of her female friends is likely to judge them. That's why you need to be more than just 'a club guy'. If you're the DJ, head bouncer, event promoter or better yet, you own the club itself, you will have a different experience, for sure.
/r/seduction07/07/25 08:10 PM
2

I got laid less when I had a fancy job and a nice place to live on my own. I had to move back home to care for my elderly mother and once we'd established boundaries around being able to have our own separate spaces in the house and the understanding that I might have company in the evenings/night time so kinda don't be coming in unannounced/unexpected after 7pm kinda thing it's been fine.
/r/seduction28/06/25 10:18 PM
11

Although I'm often not really flirting with the ones I'm not attracted to but I am with the ones I am attracted to. I'm also terrible for thinking the ones I'm attracted to aren't attracted to me, and if/when I eventually do find out, the ship inevitably sailed already and they're halfway across the globe when they send me the 'I wish we had taken things further' message.
/r/seduction28/06/25 09:48 PM
2

It's not uncommon. I've got a 'three flakes and out' policy now. It is very weird (and ultimately a complete waste of time) talking to people who always say they want to meet you then either cancel the night before or somehow just aren't available no matter what time of day/week/month/year you suggest, yet keep coming back for more chat, we agree another time, cancel again, rinse and repeat. I had one girl do this for over three months and then eventually be like 'oh I've met someone sorry for l…
/r/seduction09/06/25 08:07 PM
1

Oh for sure. There's been a few I'd definitely have lived the opportunity for subsequent rounds with
/r/seduction09/06/25 04:55 AM
5

Honestly there is no correct answer. I've fumbled the situation by being either too quick to escalate or too slow before. Sometimes the fumble was a direct result of not wanting to mess up the same way as last time when actually doing the same thing would have resulted in a win. And especially with night/club/bar game they don't want to get to know you, they want their bones rattled first and foremost, but will come back for more (and maybe relationship stuff) if they get rattled good the first …
/r/seduction08/06/25 09:50 PM
2

Went on a date with someone else that ended up going well, most likely. 9 times out of 10 it's that. Particularly if they seemed enthusiastic then absolutely nothing. Although you have to factor in maybe something serious has happened in their daily life as that is usually the other cause.
/r/seduction08/06/25 09:32 PM
2

When I first started taking Es in my early 20s it kicked my social anxiety out of the way enough for me to become generally more outgoing and actually realise people (usually) actually enjoy talking to me. I went from thinking nobody was into me to having a phone full of women's numbers and a couple of dates in any average week. But unfortunately I'd still always fumble or drop the ball when it came to the actual getting sex bit, and I think I got carried away getting so many numbers I'd actuall…
/r/seduction04/06/25 02:56 AM
1

I mean, yeah that's great if you live somewhere where stuff is 😂l
/r/seduction03/06/25 02:05 AM
2

Autocorrect now changes my hyphens I'd normally use as dashes to long dashes.
/r/seduction02/06/25 10:32 PM
1

Yeah, I've noticed similar. I can be preoccupied with some seriously horrible shit going on in the background, tired as hell and be feeling so off about life that I kinda don't want to talk to anyone. Then feel worse because I wasn't in the headspace to engage properly. Or the other one is when I've just popped into somewhere for a quick beverage and toilet stop, and have to leave more or less immediately, and of course that's when they want to talk. The other classic is of course when I'm at an…
/r/seduction01/06/25 08:51 PM
1

When I was younger, (like 16—19) I hung out with a lot of girls. But, I was also kinda underdeveloped for my age and not super confident. But I did listen to what they said they liked and tried to be like that for years. Which wasn't that helpful. Then when I started hanging out with guys who were pulling regularly it became quite obvious that what worked for them seemed to be the opposite, the same behaviour patterns that women said (amongst friends at least) thst they didn't like.
/r/seduction21/05/25 10:03 PM
6

It's happened a couple of times, usually when I wasn't really expecting anything and just doing my own thing...
/r/seduction20/05/25 07:08 PM
1

Nah, you're too moody and obviously don't understand banter. Also a coke dealer would try to sell you more, not less. Good luck in your quest finding a partner who likes dull folk. 💤
/r/seduction18/05/25 12:06 AM
1

What, even though you wouldn't know? Mate, lay off the coke for a bit, it's not helping you... 🧐🤣
/r/seduction17/05/25 08:20 PM
1

Naah I don't have that kinda energy tbh but you know, coke dealers are seldom short of female attention, can't imagine why 🤔
/r/seduction17/05/25 07:20 PM
6

Idk if you're quite getting what's being said there. Like, yes getting laid can be a goal for sure but also it's not THE goal, like if some other people cross your path, talk to them even if it takes an hour or two cos the conversation is flowing, don't shut it down early because you absolutely must get laid and talking to people that aren't looking like they wanna shag you is therefore a terrible waste of time. Particularly if you're in a smaller town where people kinda frequent the same place …
/r/seduction17/05/25 03:15 AM
15

What was so special about 07 vs 05 or 2011?
/r/seduction14/05/25 08:02 PM
1

Probably some deep rooted psychological trauma from my childhood
/r/seduction14/05/25 05:23 PM
1

Trouble is I'm stupid quick with the witty gags the rest of the time 🤦
/r/seduction14/05/25 03:25 AM
1

I'm quite good with the zingers like that but quite often in these types of situation they don't come as quickly as they do in other day to day scenarios.
/r/seduction13/05/25 09:35 PM
28

I have several friends who are or at some point have been involved in the line of work. And I reiterate that I'm not denying that trafficking exists, there may well even be trafficking occurring in countries that do have fully legalised sex work, but that the regulated paradigm will always be less dominated by bad actors than under a prohibitionist regime.
/r/seduction12/05/25 02:07 AM
51

Eh ? It's a legal, regulated industry, they pay tax, adhere to strict codes of practise and have full protection from the law/authorities. If you were talking about a country where sexual servicee are criminalised then you might have a point, but even then, most of the workers are doing it because it pays a hell of a lot better than a McJob, and probably isn't any worse an experience than a drunken one night stand with a random tourist who either cant get it up or is done after three minutes. I'…
/r/seduction11/05/25 10:49 PM
69

Idk about that. If you like a 'clinical' service maybe. They want you out of there ASAP, foreplay is basically being sprayed with Dettol. They lure you in with an affordable price then anything actually fun is an expensive 'extra'. Gave it a go once (when in Rome blah blah blah) just to see what the fuss was about. Possibly one of the least sexy/erotic experiences of my life. Can't quite work out how people get addicted to the point of spending all their money on that stuff, I've had far better …
/r/seduction11/05/25 10:44 PM
1

I've had more success dating women who've put their insta profile on Tinder that I didn't actually match with, than I have with ones I've actually matched with on Tinder/other apps.
/r/seduction05/05/25 07:07 PM
1

Generally I just leave it. They either message me back apologising, weeks sometimes months in the future, sometimes that's the last I hear from anybody.
/r/seduction05/05/25 01:44 AM
4

It's an easy mistake to make tbh. If you've been alone a long time and striking out badly, then suddenly start hitting the shots you take, when someone expresses interest in a relationship the temptation to go for it can override your gut feeling and even make you ignore red flags that lack of experience renders less visible. This definitely happened to me, I ended up with someone not right for me for way too long although in all honesty it ended up damaging me far worse than her.
/r/seduction03/05/25 06:45 PM
1

Yeah then you also have to deal with shit like constant jealousy or her cheating because she assumes you already are. It's not that cut and dried tbh. Although, ngl, since other women can basically sense if you're taken or not, it's easier if you are in a relationship. I swear the number of opportunities I had handed to me on a plate in the last two years I was with my ex... Turned them down, of course. Then afterwards discovered J was being cheated on so I may as well have. Ended things and all…
/r/seduction02/05/25 08:19 PM
1

I'll have to take your word for that one 😒
/r/seduction02/05/25 08:17 PM
59

Werthers Original and a foot rub
/r/seduction30/04/25 11:28 PM
1

Kinda depends. Generally speaking yes but if you're into more alternative/goth/emo etc women you might not do so well dressed in chinos and a sweater vest as you would with a load of tattoos and piercings. Equally the latter might not be appealing to the women who are into designer labels and expensive accessories. If you have a type it makes sense to tailor your look a little to suit.
/r/seduction30/04/25 07:08 PM
49

When I was in my mid 20s, all I got was cougars. I looked young for my age and girls my age weren't all over me like they were my friends. Since I turned 40, still look young for my age and get hit on all the time by 19-23 year olds and women my age seem more interested in guys in their mid 50s. I'm not complaining, the 20somethings are fun to be around but under 23 or so just isn't viable for anything other than casual dating as most of them are at university and not planning on sticking around…
/r/seduction29/04/25 03:49 PM
6

I unmatched about seven inactive/unresponsive matches a few weeks back and instantly got more matches in two days than in the previous twelve weeks. Maybe coincidence but knowing Match group, probably not. I might wait a couple more weeks and have another clear out, see if it happens again.
/r/seduction18/04/25 05:48 PM
19

I find being out socialising/partying with a well put together female friend is always good. For one thing they're more tuned into some of the more subtle signals that a lot of guys miss, and an introduction with a glowing reference 'you should meet my friend OriginalMandem I could see you guys vibing' is going to be much more effective coming from another woman than your male wingbuddy.
/r/seduction18/04/25 02:00 PM
36

Cousin! Let's go bowling!
/r/seduction16/04/25 03:05 AM
15

Yeah same. I remember meeting some girl right at the tail end of an evening when I absolutely had to get home due to being on the 6am shift (which meant a 4:30 start) the next day. She walked with me to the bus stop and we kissed passionately for like 20 minutes until the bus arrived. We then set up a rendezvous for the Friday night, I'd said "let's go out and grab drinks" and she was like "cool, I live near the street where all the cool places are, come to my place and we'll walk there". I get …
/r/seduction12/04/25 09:04 PM
29

I missed a lot of easy shots in my youth because could never quite tell if she wanted me to go for it or I was imaging it.
/r/seduction12/04/25 02:56 PM
2

Yeah, and those are usually the beat outcomes because both parties feel validated even if the actual opinion differs.
/r/seduction29/03/25 10:49 PM
2

Funnily enough sometimes that can actually work both ways. I don't personally believe that crystals or lumps of rock have magical healing powers. But I still wear certain ones that tie in with my look or outfit. This actually came up in a conversation the other day - I have a smoky quartz point on a thread round my neck and also like labradorote, hematite and tiger's eye, mostly because I wear a lot of black, chocolate brown and dark green on the daily. She came at me with the 'woo' and I said '…
/r/seduction29/03/25 10:39 PM
1

I kinda approach it the same way as if I'm a manager and I have to talk to an employee. Get my point across quietly but firmly, avoid accusation, and use 'pointed questions' where by answering them they have to basically say what I am trying to tell them themselves (because it always sounds better/fairer/more logical when people have to think for a second then tell you what the problem is rather than you attacking them with negativity about a problem. Instead of disagreeing, try 'have you consid…
/r/seduction29/03/25 10:33 PM
2

'I feel' is also good in the right context. Also helps you know if she cares about your feelings fairly quickly!
/r/seduction29/03/25 10:29 PM
6

Hmm well unfortunately in a moment of weakness (and boredom) I signed up for a few months and went from 0-1 matches in a month to between ten and twenty, so no, it's definitely pay to win, I am sorry to say.
/r/seduction23/03/25 10:35 PM
4

Moved back to look after my elderly mother in her declining years. Otherwise I'd have been like all the others that don't come back after leaving. But we are kinda getting to the stage now where she's probably going to want to move into serviced accommodation for older people anyway so hopefully in the next year or two max there's gonna be a little more opportunity to relocate somewhere a bit more vibrant. NGL family commitments take priority and my mum literally has no other family members in t…
/r/seduction22/03/25 10:24 PM
1

Small university town in the far southwestern end of England. Even split between undergraduates (occasionally fun but mostly too young), locals who have have no motivation or ambition to leave the area and are usually just dull people with bad attitudes, and retired people.
/r/seduction22/03/25 09:29 PM
15

Location specific? Hinge has been a complete waste of time for me, I get a bit of action with Tinder but in general across all the apps my area is dead. Most of my matches come from 100 miles or more away. Well, technically. I have my radius set usually between 50 to 75 max. And I get matches but they're all in the closest big cities which are 50 to 75 miles in a straight line but due to geographical location, up to 250 mile round trip due to there being a large body of ocean in the way 🤦
/r/seduction22/03/25 08:19 PM
42

100 a year. LMAO. It's like £35 a month for me and they still try and up sell a load of other shit
/r/seduction22/03/25 08:09 PM
1

Buy less creepy food items?
/r/seduction20/03/25 08:26 PM
2

I tend to agree altiough many don't. Most of my friends who've been married for over 10 or 15 years, own a house together, kids etc and look like that's gonna last another 10 or 15, are in relationships that developed after a casual hookup/same night lay. My best friend is married to a guy who was dancing on a podium in a nightclub dressed in cyber fetish wear. She took him home that night, they recently celebrated their 12 wedding anniversary and 18 years together. Which is kinda my fault as sh…
/r/seduction20/03/25 03:13 AM
12

Eh, not always, in fact most of the fumbles I've had over the years have been when they were fully DTF more or less immediately and I took too long to seal the deal. Especially in my younger days when I was lacking any kind of guidance in these matters, I was following some kind of framework/rulebook I probably mostly picked up from Hollywood movies/TV shows etc that meant I felt like I had to be really romantic and take people out on at least three dates before even attempting to go in for a ki…
/r/seduction20/03/25 03:02 AM
1

Ultimately you've got to read the room. Some places have a very sexually charged atmosphere, others don't. The night of the week can make a difference - but if you're a uni student and you're at venues/events that are student oriented, you've basically got carte blanche to hit on people all night. It also helps if you pick a) an environment where you feel at home and people like you and b) you can play to your skills a little. For example I do best in places that have cool (not cheesy commercial…
/r/seduction22/02/25 02:04 AM
2

Not so much that, more just the fact it's (maybe for the OP) a similar ethnocultural demographic, so compare results with the 'new user' perk of being in a different location.
/r/seduction10/02/25 12:05 AM
2

Get a job in a cool bar that has a lot of female customers. Worked for me.
/r/seduction14/01/25 03:09 AM
2

Probably better tbh, my dating life only stopped being awful in my mid 30s and took off after I hit 40. The late bloomer thing means I'm usually mistaken for 10 years younger than I am, and although not everyone likes the age gap thing, I seem to be mostly attracting women half my age these days. And that's not me chasing them either.
/r/seduction14/01/25 03:00 AM
4

My last ex did not like that at all. Nothing to do with my technique, I hasten to add. Very much a 'her' issue.
/r/seduction11/01/25 04:57 AM
2

Leave it a few days, message again as normal. If there's still nothing back in a few days forget about it and move on. I won't unmatch because you never know what's happening in their life, for all I know they could be hospitalised, having a family crisis, lost their phone etc.
/r/seduction08/01/25 06:47 PM
1

The cool thing about reading a paper is you can spread it out on the table and read an article together at your own pace, collaborate on the crossword/puzzle section or just point at the headline and be like 'what do you reckon to this, eh guys?' - or hold it up and use it as a shield to hide behind.
/r/seduction04/01/25 08:17 PM
1

It helps that stuff was relatively a lot cheaper vs average income as well. Popping out for two or three drinks midweek was fairly affordable, now it's a bit of an all or nothing thing, you either stay in or go full send 'out out'. And when people are 'out out' they're louder, drunker, harder to talk to.
/r/seduction04/01/25 08:14 PM
2

When we were at uni we had a single coin-operated payphone between 8 people. It accepted incoming calls and of course no call waiting so that one girl who had a boyfriend back home or the dude with helicopter parents overseas would be blocking the line for an hour at a time and nobody could make or receive calls. It was a major fucking ballache, but guess what, we still got laid because we all left the house and made the effort to hang out somewhere where everyone else also hung out. The mythica…
/r/seduction04/01/25 04:47 AM
2

way more less Are you having a stroke?
/r/seduction04/01/25 02:23 AM
3

I'm just surprised you've got so much free time on your hands to be having a pop at me when you should be channeling that energy into, you know, getting laid or something. Hopefully you do and it chills you out a bit.
/r/seduction04/01/25 02:21 AM
3

When did I ever say that? All I said was that they were flaky as in 2024.
/r/seduction03/01/25 10:55 PM
1

Maybe. Ask your mum.
/r/seduction03/01/25 10:30 PM
1

The small switch behind the right ear
/r/seduction02/01/25 09:24 PM
25

Shit man before we had mobile phones we had to a) catch them on their land line, b) arrange to meet in a fixed location at a certain time then c) sit there for half an hour just to make sure they actually weren't gonna show and just late. I once left after 45 minutes, she got there fifteen minutes after I'd left because the trains were cancelled and of course I had no way of knowing....
/r/seduction02/01/25 09:22 PM
5

Nope. Just as bad. As I just witnessed a few days ago
/r/seduction02/01/25 09:01 PM
39

They were just as flakey in 2005 lol
/r/seduction02/01/25 09:00 PM
1

That 'you so fat' line sounds like the kind of thing a Chinese Aunty would say. And honestly if someone speaks to me like that, they can fuck off. I'm not interested in them.
/r/seduction02/01/25 08:27 PM
1

I mean, I work most evenings 😫
/r/seduction30/12/24 09:16 PM
1

Well, my small handful of experiences (maybe 10 times in nearly 30 years), they were either really into it and it was a load of fun, or I felt like I was 'part of the problem'. But despite using a website with peer reviews etc it was impossible to know what I was gonna get when I walked in to the place
/r/seduction29/12/24 08:20 PM
2

I'd actually say it's easier than dating a really hot woman who has a regular job, as they're so much more down to earth and used to being hit on by randoms. And (it seems like) they're way more intentional when they date as if all they wanted was a quick fuck, they can get it whenever they want, so when they make a commitment they really mean it.
/r/seduction29/12/24 07:03 PM
2

Yep. I have uni undergrads (18-24) and 50something divorcées with adult kids. Anyone with any drive has left the area for career purposes leaving only the dregs. I have to be here for family reasons (caring for an elderly parent) . The nearest place that doesn't suck where I meet suitable women is a 90 minute drive each way and I can do it maybe once every 6-8 weeks due to work patterns and finances. So, I've got my match radius set to 70 miles because otherwise, tumbleweed. Due to an unfortunat…
/r/seduction29/12/24 07:00 PM
2

I can sympathise. I've definitely improved in looks, style and fitness in recent years but it's still hard to shed the 'imposter syndrome' feeling that when an attractive woman comes to me, compliments my cool coat and overall aesthetic and seems keen to chat, she's not just into the coat and the aesthetic but wants me to give her the old razzle dazzle and maybe take her home with me. This happened to me last week and I swear I didn't even think about it til about an hour after I got home, where…
/r/seduction29/12/24 05:22 PM
31

I'd be lucky to meet five women I'm actually attracted to in an evening in the town I live in. 30 seems somewhat implausible unfortunately.
/r/seduction29/12/24 04:36 PM
3

I briefly dated a stripper, she was awesome, sadly only had a couple of months left on her working visa so it never really got the opportunity to go anywhere.
/r/seduction28/12/24 08:25 PM
5

I had a very long dry spell in my 20s that was partly brought on by someone I hooked up with kinda ridiculing my sexual performance (and it was only the second time I'd had sex) which majorly affected my confidence and even caused me to knock back a few opportunities because, well, basically I was traumatised by that and ended up with erectile dysfunction combined with premature ejac when it did decide to function. After about 7 years of absolutely no sexual contact at all (not even a make out s…
/r/seduction28/12/24 08:24 PM
1

Of course, it's how you meet a lot more girls. Always had the best results when out with a wing woman not a wingman.
/r/seduction27/12/24 06:02 PM
2

Depends if we have any eye contact beforehand really. If they're sitting alone in a corner with their eyes on a book or a laptop looking busy then I'll leave them alone. If they're obviously looking around, scanning the room etc then it looks like theyre here to socialise so then I might come over and say hello, or more likely establish some friendly eye contact then catch her at the bar next time she goes up for a drink.
/r/seduction23/12/24 05:48 PM
2

More like 55-60 USD.
/r/seduction23/12/24 05:44 PM
5

Hmmm high school wasn't great for me, I wasn't developed enough physically to get any attention from my female classmates. The puberty bus was running late. Didn't really start to feel like I had any mojo at all until my mid 20s, even then I was so used to being overlooked I just failed to take most of the really easy shots that I didn't even realise were more or less dead certs, and it's been an ongoing process dialling it in. In my 20s I was working in a dynamic and youthful corporate environm…
/r/seduction23/12/24 03:37 PM
4

Oh hell no. My female co-worker are always like "I found this £45 eyeliner pencil" etc etc
/r/seduction23/12/24 03:23 PM
10

I don't go to a bar before 1am regardless because I rarely finished work before midnight. Lucky I've got reddit to tell me why that makes me a terrible person! Faaaanks huns!
/r/seduction23/12/24 02:47 PM
6

I look younger than I am. When I was 25 I still looked like a teenager. When I was 35 I probably looked 25. Now people tend to guess early to mid 30s. My work colleague is 38 and most people think he's older than I am.
/r/seduction23/12/24 12:12 AM
9

Lol maybe. I'm nearly 48 and I get a lot of attention from 20-30 year old that wouldn't have looked at me twice when I was that age I'm more in my prime now than I was then. Ironically less well off financially though
/r/seduction22/12/24 11:37 PM
3

Yep that's the line be I was fed. Also that I didn't really need to do anything, they'd just find me irresistible and I'd be spoiled for choice. Biggest lie I've ever been told.
/r/seduction22/12/24 11:24 PM
4

It's uni dorms. Worst case scenario you'll bump into them every so often until July/August. Then everyone moves out and goes their own separate ways anyway. So ideally you'll only really have to deal with a few months of the occasional awkward encounter. When I was uni age unfortunately I used to talk myself out of too many opportunities because of negative thoughts like "oh I don't want to ruin our friendship by hooking up because it will go wrong and spoil everything" - well guess what, those …
/r/seduction15/12/24 08:13 PM
6

It can still sometimes be a bit tricky especially when you're dealing with the 'friends first' kinda hookup as you need to dial in the right amount of chit-chat. Go straight into escalation and you'll shut her down. Take too long to escalate and she'll also shut down.
/r/seduction15/12/24 08:08 PM
1

I mean, there are milfs in their mid 20s
/r/seduction09/12/24 05:49 AM
1

If I make eye contact with someone in this kind of context I give them a little wave and a smile. If they return it, I'll go over and say hi. If they don't look particularly impressed and their eyes go back down more or less instantly, I leave them to it.
/r/seduction30/11/24 06:51 PM
1

If I make eye contact with someone in this kind of context I give them a little wave and a smile. If they return it, I'll go over and say hi. If they don't look particularly impressed and their eyes go back down more or less instantly, I leave them to it.
/r/seduction30/11/24 06:46 PM
10

You sweet summer child etc etc
/r/seduction30/11/24 12:56 AM
1

Kinda. You'll actually find a lot of those type sites frown on 'unicorn hunters' though.
/r/seduction30/11/24 12:55 AM
3

If she's going through the final stages of a relationship that has been going for a while, lower your expectations. It's quite likely when you hooked up she had to all intents and purposes decided the relationship was done, over. Soon to be ex-boyfriend probably sensed that they were about to be dumped and pulled out the 'big guns' ie romantic dinner, flowers, promises to do better etc etc. And now she's probably conflicted and feels like she needs to give him one more 'final' 'last chance' to p…
/r/seduction28/11/24 07:51 PM
2

If we're hanging out as 'friends' it's not a date. Usually by the third time we're hanging out as 'friends' it's obviously a date. Honestly from what I've seen it's just a way for women to go on a few dates without feeling like they're expected to kiss or make out at some point just because it's a date. One thing I have noticed about 'friends first' women is they're often the ones who will make the first move when they have decided that's what they want. And if you're not ready for it, you won't…
/r/seduction28/11/24 04:07 AM
11

I'm pretty sure it's just Murphy's Law in effect. . You want a wife, all you get is people looking for casual encounters. You want casual encounters, all you get is people wanting marriage and kids ASAP
/r/seduction24/11/24 11:08 PM
1

Check it out, it's like a fusion of metal, filthy d&b/breakcore with a twist of operatic stuff.
/r/seduction22/11/24 09:21 PM
1

Likewise 🤜🤛🤘 Funnily enough I'm kinda getting back into the heavier stuff again, I think the rise of more instrumental stuff/djent style music that is centred round the music over any singing/growling/screaming vocalisations is speaking to me more than singer-led bands. And we have some really cool crossover acts these days. Do you know Igorrrr?
/r/seduction21/11/24 08:21 PM
1

Well we all liked different styles of stuff. Myself I was into some NWOBHM stuff like Maiden but tended to be more into faster/harder/more modern. Megadeth, Anthrax, Sepultura/Nailbomb, anything crossovery like funk metal, hip hop/metal. NIN, KMFDM, Ministry/RevCo, Frontliine Assembly, Front 242, Fear Factory, Death, Deicide, Prong, Helmet, Mordred, Body Count etc. I kinda lost the love for it when 'nu-metal' bands like Korn, Coal Chamber etc started appearing, but that probably also coincided w…
/r/seduction21/11/24 07:40 PM
1

In the 90s there was maybe one female into metal for every 15 guys. And even less if you were into thrash, death, industrial etc etc. It was a very male-dominated scene, in my home town at least. I don't think I ever went to a music night with an even mix or more women than men until I got into rave/house music in my mid 20s.
/r/seduction21/11/24 06:50 PM
0

It's not the guy's fault though. If a man lacks any kind of decent role models growing up to teach you how to interact with women successfully, they end up internalising too much crap from Hollywood/TV series that goes against them, makes everything seem harder than it is. And a lot of us particularly from religious backgrounds or ethnic backgrounds that place huge importance on academic performance over social integration are even discouraged from associating with the opposite sex "too soon" (a…
/r/seduction20/11/24 07:22 PM
2

I mean, either they absolutely can't, or they're actually drawn to certain character traits that generally unpleasant men seem to have in spades. Smooth talking charmers, "I don't give a shit what others think of me" attitude, fostering a sense that if the woman doesn't throw herself at him that they will cheat or ghost, people who will say anything to make someone sleep with them even if it's completely untrue at the time etc etc. Even now maybe 70pc of my women friends in relationships are wit…
/r/seduction20/11/24 07:03 PM
4

I'm 47 and literally just finding my stride.
/r/seduction28/10/24 05:37 PM
1

Mate, you've already banged her. This advice isn't particularly helpful if people are struggling to get to the point where they're actually getting to the point where someone can look at them longingly in a post orgasmic glow to form any positive opinions about their appearance.
/r/seduction23/10/24 04:27 PM
3

This is the problem though. Particularly on Tinder where users are a pretty even split of people looking for hookups vs LTR. The former will respond well to this opener, the latter much less so. So either one has to be tuned in to what the message recipient is looking for, or just be honest about only wanting hookups in which case this type of opener should quickly filter those that are also looking to hookup, as they'll be more likely to respond, and LTR-seekers will probably not engage or repl…
/r/seduction13/06/24 03:15 PM
3

I feel like it's an 'either/or' scenario. People either do amazingly in college and then are done by 30, or have a pretty lonely youth and get extra-motivated to compensate for it later on. Shit, I was over 30 by the time I got my first regular long-term partner. I mean, there were others along the way but most of my GFs before that were just visiting the country or whatever and only had a year or two visa.
/r/seduction12/06/24 08:22 PM
3

I lost my virginity whilst I was there but generally speaking it wasn't as great for me as some people experience. But in fairness I had a few things going against me at the time. I didn't start going through puberty til I was nearly 20 so I looked easily 5 years younger than other people my age. This was obviously shit when I was younger (who wants to get with someone as developed as their kid brother?), this had a pretty profound effect on my confidence and self-esteem; it took me til I was 30…
/r/seduction12/06/24 08:19 PM
3

Idk, I just like making them laugh and exchanging some fun chat. Maybe a little compliment on their appearance if I've seen them a few times before and can see they've really made an effort with their outfit for a formal event or whatever. It's pretty much my favourite thing about being a bartender tbh, I've got a bit of a captive audience so they're going to be talking to me anyway when they buy a drink so I've just kinda developed a thing where I try to make that experience as fun as possible …
/r/seduction07/06/24 08:38 PM
9

Yep. And women can change once they think they 'have you'. Start communicating less respectfully, take the stress from their bad day out on you, stop taking care of their appearance etc etc. Very much the case with my last long-term partner.
/r/seduction06/06/24 04:31 PM
2

Bro I'm 47 and it seems like I am way hotter property with women in their 20s (and even younger but I'm not playing that game) than I ever was when I was their age. In fact it's been a bit of a flip because when I was 30 and younger I only got interest from women that were 40+. I know people like to shit on 'age gap' stuff, particularly when the man is older, but I'm not the one driving the vibe in these encounters. I'm just being me, a fairly young looking person for my age that is comfortable …
/r/seduction04/06/24 09:16 PM
13

OK, but just say you dumped them 🤔maybe it was for reasons that changed. Generally speaking I agree, ex is ex for a reason but occasionally there's just situations that weren't right for the time that could be better second time round. But it's certainly the minority of cases.
/r/seduction04/06/24 08:55 PM
4

I used to go in for the kiss, but now I do it the other way - I just look at them until they say "what", then I beckon them in and basically by that point they're kissing me. And if they don't come in when beckoned, I just make a silly face/stick out my tongue and try again later.
/r/seduction02/06/24 10:28 PM
1

Have you tried telling them when to meet you vs asking when.l they are free? Generally speaking it seems to work better if I suggest a time ie "since you're into retro arcade machines, I've got Thursday evening free, how about we hit up the gaming bar and you can show me that epic Street Fighter combo we talked about?" - the answer might well be "sorry, I've got to have my nasal hair braided on Tuesday, but I can do Saturday". If you put the onus on them to set a time/date or even worse, 'get in…
/r/seduction01/06/24 05:05 PM
6

In my case it was a combination of a fairly puritanical and sex-negative upbringing, then later on, hearing too much negativity about men hitting on them from my female friends. Funnily enough it was only by the time I hit 30 or so the balance between male and female friends round me evened out. I was surrounded by attractive women but had no clue what to do with them. I kinda didn't realise it at the time but women really liked me when I was in my late teens early 20s but I was petrified to mak…
/r/seduction30/05/24 07:54 PM
0

Get one of those T-shirts that says 'Worlds Greatest Lover' across the chest. Bonus points of the shirt is stained with holes scattered across it like a chunk of Leerdammer cheese.
/r/seduction29/05/24 04:13 PM
2

For me it comes from trying to be considerate to housemates, neighbours etc. If I'm sure there's nobody within earshot (or if there is, they're also making noises) then it's another matter but if there are people in the next room I'd rather be quiet. It used to make me feel pretty miserable hearing other people fucking if I was on my own and feeling down about it. Even worse if the noise had woken me up from sleeping or whatever. So maybe just projecting but I don't want other people feeling lik…
/r/seduction29/05/24 03:56 PM
2

That's cool. Personally after struggling to function with 'normal' hours for the first 15 years of my working life, switching to a more 'afternoons and evenings' work schedule was a game changer for me. Less feeling run down and exhausted the whole time, no more issues with punctuality and attendance etc etc. The flip side is that my social time is usually other people's work time etc which is hard, but not nearly as hard as spending half my waking hours barely functional, and having to endure m…
/r/seduction20/05/24 10:26 PM
1

I think it's actually the age thing tbh, I vibe best with people younger than me, but '40' is a big scary age that a lot of people have as their upper limit for their age filter (I'm halfway through 47 now and there's definitely been a noticeable change in the type of matches I've had since I left my 30s). But it looks like the people that filter me out online like me IRL. For a while I was quite self conscious about telling people my actual age when they asked because if this but oddly they see…
/r/seduction20/05/24 09:35 PM
2

Funny, its kinda opposite for me. Objectively speaking I don't think I'm that bad looking, I pass for about ten years younger than I actually am which is a good thing at my age - I'm not gym ripped but I'm in decent enough shape, little bit of a belly but my arms and legs are muscular. Online I rarely get matches I'm attracted to but if I'm out at a bar I get quite a few looks and smiles from women I am attracted to. In fact there's a female member of security working at the place I'm in right n…
/r/seduction20/05/24 08:05 PM
1

I can kinda see how it might work. I'm similar - work in a bar, late finish and there's not a lot to do after I finish work. Yeah I could hit up a couple of the late bars or clubs but I hate getting there sober an hour before close when the night is already mostly done and the majority of people have been drinking for six hours or more already. It often also means I'm not quite in 'party mode' I when others are. I absolutely hate getting up early though, I don't even think getting laid more woul…
/r/seduction20/05/24 07:52 PM
2

I just introduce myself, shake their hand. If they look like a dickhead I'll call them out with something like "oh, hey, how do you know Mydatedgirl?" - because if they literally just walked up to hit on her they normally start to lose their confidence at that point. Basically just dominate the interaction whilst being very pleasant and friendly. TBH it's not just on dates, I have a lot of attractive female friends and even if we're just out for a social drink they tend to attract freewheeling d…
/r/seduction18/05/24 07:52 PM
1

The OP is suggesting engaging in interactions that will specifically result in 'no' in order to get used to rejection.
/r/seduction08/05/24 01:08 AM
2

Not really, in fact almost all the women I've dated in the last five years have been around 15 - 20 years younger than me.
/r/seduction07/05/24 10:05 PM
2

If I know the result is going to be a 'no' then I can't be bothered wasting the energy. Needs to be at least a 'maybe', no matter what it is.
/r/seduction07/05/24 10:03 PM
14

Lose it a few more times to make sure. For a variety of shitty reasons I think it was a solid five years between me losing it and having sex again. Almost like it grew back.
/r/seduction30/04/24 08:49 PM
1

Yeah but I usually attribute it to the seasons. Big up swing in activity on the apps for me, presumably because people are getting the spring horn
/r/seduction30/04/24 02:57 PM
7

Same. As a male, it's nice to feel desired. Not all this wishy-washy "I made eye contact for 0 3 seconds why isn't he getting the hint" bollocks 🤦
/r/seduction29/04/24 05:24 AM
10

No, but perhaps she likes your level of assertiveness as it is but also wants to be a bit dominant?
/r/seduction29/04/24 05:06 AM
26

I think this is beyond 'hint' territory and more of a demand. If you're alone together then it's game on.
/r/seduction29/04/24 04:10 AM
2

Well, I usually go with a fairly small subtle smila and maybe a wink if they're cute. Low-key terrifying to start with but once you start getting it back it gets a whole load easier. Helps that as a bartender I get to interact with a lot of people and even just doing it with all my customers (unless they're assholes) results in them being happier, more flirty and tipping
/r/seduction20/04/24 06:01 PM
1

I do it all the time now, used to struggle with it before. I have a bit of an RBF particularly when I'm concentrating, I've found it really helps make me seem less scary haha
/r/seduction20/04/24 03:26 PM
1

Can confirm. A lone guy walking about a park, even in broad daylight, is not likely to be well-received if he walks up to random women and starts a conversation. Throw a cute puppy into the mix and the random women come to you and strike up a conversation. (source: I used to dogsit for my mate's spaniel when he travelled for work) However I'm the kind of person who hates going out in cold and wet weather and dogs need their exercise no matter what. So until I move somewhere warm I'm just gonna v…
/r/seduction19/04/24 08:23 PM
9

Big bag of cocaine is gonna change that
/r/seduction17/04/24 11:53 PM
19

You wouldn't do that either. Honestly with club game, you either want to be taking people home 3-4am at the latest. Or, you want to move the party back to yours as the club ends, get the girl(s) you're interested in back to the house. Once people are in your house, shoes off, comfortable, got drinks, smokes etc, you can improve social proof being host with the most, sit with the girls and gradually escalate. From there it's relatively easy to move to another room, if the girls friends like you a…
/r/seduction17/04/24 11:52 PM
13

That's a weird way to meet women tbh. Also do you really want to be arriving stone cold sober and trying to connect with people that have been dancing, sweating, drinking and throwing various pills and powder down their necks all night? Plus, unless you're honestly considering hanging round outside as people leave at 6am or whenever it closes, you'll find most venues are unlikely to let you in after 3am at the latest unless you know people on the door. Saying that back when I used to live in a c…
/r/seduction17/04/24 11:43 PM
2

Depends on the club tbh. Some are 100pc 'meat markets' where people are there to pull as much as dance etc. Then you get the more 'serious' clubs where the majority of people are there for the music and DJs not primarily to meet someone to take home at the end of the night, and therefore guys who are obviously there on the pull and not for the music will be unpopular. Unfortunately the former type of place always has awful music I don't enjoy, which then means my overall frame isn't as attractiv…
/r/seduction15/04/24 02:30 PM
1

Well at least she's working on her fitness. If she wasn't obese, would you go there? Or will you wait for her to drop 40kg but then some other guy gets in there before you?
/r/seduction09/04/24 11:44 PM
14

Not just playing acoustic guitar in itself, but playing shitty pop songs you probably hate. You could be like the next Gordon Giltrap or André Segovia and only lovers of guitar music would be impressed. Stumble through 'Wonderwall' or 'Let It Be' with only one out of three chords correct and only the first line of each verse, and they'll be undressing you with their eyes 😩
/r/seduction08/04/24 07:41 PM
15

All well and good but sometimes it's beyond your control. I had a date go bad this week that I thought was in the bag. Started out fine but about 15 minutes into it she started withdrawing into herself. Conversation got progressively harder, she starts playing with her phone and messaging other people (I really hate this on dates) then she finished her drink and just left. Now, we'd been messaging more than I'd normally like - every day for three weeks. Normally I'm a 'set up a meet ASAP' guy bu…
/r/seduction07/04/24 04:24 PM
1

Unless you date girls who like crystals and tarot etc in which case they're like "LOL noob"
/r/seduction05/04/24 08:02 PM
1

Well either you hate being a virgin or you don't. Lack of experience holds you back more the older you get. Most people's first time isn't that great anyway. Virginity isn't really a magical gift to give someone.
/r/seduction17/03/24 06:31 PM
1

By that point it's your choice not the way it has to be. You're 28. You've got money. Even if you don't have a lot of money, you can get that emotional/physical/mental hurdle out of the way.
/r/seduction16/03/24 10:53 PM
7

Not really. They're either DTF or they're not. If they are, they usually know before the house, especially if it's party time.
/r/seduction26/02/24 04:03 PM
3

I mean, it's more how you ask that would make it come across as desperate or not...
/r/seduction26/02/24 04:01 PM
1

Yeah, that is definitely something that gets harder over time. And also having my own place is great but almost missing the days when I was living in shared houses where all all the housemates become friends, and we'd throw parties and get to meet our friends' friends...
/r/seduction20/02/24 01:29 AM
-1

No, because in itself that implies the only purpose of dating is physical release, which it 100pc isn't. And it's only a substitute for actual physical intimacy if one hasn't actually experienced actual physical intimacy. Also step back a second and consider the bigger picture. As a regular person surrounded by single and horny men who refuse to at least "unload the weapon" for weeks and months at a time hoping they'll find a 'target' to unload said weapon into, could you imagine how much more i…
/r/seduction18/02/24 10:30 PM
1

I once hooked up with someone who was a horrible racist and had (unknowingly) said something pretty nasty about one part of my ethnic background. So I took great delight in revealing that part of my background after we'd done the deed. Lol.
/r/seduction18/02/24 05:36 PM
27

Being childless probably helps. I think once/if you have kids it kinda reframes stuff, as a single childless man you're just an older version of a younger guy with no kids. And when I interact with people I treat them according to their level of intellectual and emotional maturity rather than their on-paper age. There are people I know who are 23 that are far more functional as adults than people I know in their 40s. As a 'young-presenting older guy' I've probably got more in common with the you…
/r/seduction17/02/24 08:50 PM
7

Yeah, when I was in my 20s I looked much younger than I was so didn't really get much interest apart from 'cougar' types and gay guys looking for some twink action - but I'm straight so that was mostly just annoying. The cougars were OK though. Now I'm older I still look young for my age but it works more in my favour now. I was out drinking with a mate of mine recently for his 40th and we were chatting with a couple of 20something women and they guessed he was the oldest out of the two of us by…
/r/seduction17/02/24 06:35 PM
22

What's wrong with going clubbing in your 40s? If you're there for the vibes and music first and foremost (which I am) then really there's no upper age. I know people in their sixties and seventies who still go to clubs and raves regularly. As far as being attractive, I'm probably a seven at best. But I do look pretty youthful for my age, I've got plenty of energy, I'm fun to hang out with and I'm no less in tune with modern life, culture and music than someone twenty years younger.
/r/seduction17/02/24 03:48 PM
47

Yes, but I'm a man.
/r/seduction17/02/24 03:27 PM
265

I'm in my 40s and they approach me 🤷
/r/seduction17/02/24 12:37 PM
5

Out of DJing and bartending, having done and still doing both, I think the latter is actually more effective, for me at least. I think also as a bartender I have wider appeal than I do when I'm doing the DJ thing. Either way, both are great for social proof and being recognised.
/r/seduction10/02/24 03:16 AM
4

Fully depends on the country. Seems like I'm more attractive in Germany than I am in France, for example.
/r/seduction10/02/24 02:39 AM
3

Yep, definitely depends on the airline. British Airways were defo not hiring the hotties last time I flew with them. However most of the other airlines I've flown have usually had at least one flight attendant I'd have been happy enough to accept a phone number from.
/r/seduction10/02/24 02:37 AM
1

It was the pineapple that got my attention
/r/seduction09/02/24 04:26 AM
1

I see you met my ex
/r/seduction09/02/24 01:46 AM
1

Free pizza is a panty dropper
/r/seduction08/02/24 11:12 PM
7

^ this. Also implies they trust you at least enough to invite you into their home.
/r/seduction07/02/24 09:28 PM
3

Not always. Over the years I've had to live in some pretty shitty situations. Chaotic/bad housemates, bad neighbourhoods that people are low-key scared to visit etc etc. If your place is ticking all the boxes (clean, nice, close to where all the cool bars and restaurants are at, no room mates etc) then great, but not everyone is so lucky
/r/seduction07/02/24 09:25 PM
-2

It seems like there's a bit of a disconnect between the 'old fashioned' way of doing things (playing hard to get and rewarding persistence) vs how people claim they would rather things were done in the modern world (no very much means no, please don't ask again). Generally speaking I feel like the second paradigm is probably best for everyone, but there are still people who either prefer the first, or it's more of a cultural norm in their society. Problem is you can't really know who thinks what…
/r/seduction03/02/24 06:45 PM
3

By the same token a lot of people (men and women) shame people for sleeping with people they think aren't hot enough or whatever. It cuts both ways.
/r/seduction02/11/23 07:09 PM
2

Imposter syndrome
/r/seduction18/10/23 12:18 AM
1

Have you seen that episode of Father Ted where Ted tells Dougal to 'be himself' with women and before the end of the day Dougal ends up giving the house away to a female pop star? Funny AF
/r/seduction06/06/23 05:37 PM
19

Yeah, this is very common. The correct reaction is to just carry on as normal, don't suddenly go all quiet or storm off home or whatever. Either you'll have sex later or maybe the next time you meet. Especially if there's already plenty of physical stuff happening.
/r/seduction31/10/22 04:00 PM
3

Tbh it's exactly the same as if you're doing a sales job (much as it pains me to say that). Listen to the response and use either/or humour and empathy, better yet both. If they give you sour lemons, acknowledge the sour nature of the lemon, then flip it into a sweet, ripe tangerine.
/r/seduction09/10/22 09:38 PM
2

I mostly agree but there's porn and "porn". Plenty of amateur content exists that depicts normal people actively pleasuring each other whilst a camera is rolling vs stuff that unattainable people do to each other for the benefit of the camera.
/r/seduction09/10/22 08:47 PM
1

Idk, I feel like someone isn't my GF until we're already either having sex or at least have a strong intent/desire to do so
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:27 PM
11

This has been touched on in other threads I have participated in but I think a lot of the 'success with women from an early age' type thing depends a lot on how a guy grew up and what their parents attitude to them forming relationships or associating with women in general was. If a guy grows up in a family that is sex positive and has a healthy, supportive and encouraging attitude towards them forming relationships from the age when they could be reasonably expected to want to do so, then they …
/r/seduction09/10/22 04:38 PM
11

I definitely don't feel comfortable trying to approach customers at my work - I work in a pub and we get a lot of young, attractive women in, however I've seen a couple of staff members not be able to keep a professional distance and they've ended up either with a bad reputation amongst the clientèle (seen some messy scenes when multiple women one guy was seeing came in at the same time) or they've been so fixated on hitting on the customers that they failed to do their actual job and ended up f…
/r/seduction09/10/22 04:25 PM
2

Idk I think it's human nature, especially in this age of social media where algos reinforce the 'echo chamber' mentality.
/r/seduction06/10/22 10:20 PM
2

Facts.
/r/seduction05/10/22 02:59 PM
1

I mean, it's not really possible unless you decide to be a monk or something and even that doesn't really work.
/r/seduction03/10/22 10:40 PM
1

I've never owned a dog but I have been a dog sitter for friend's dogs while they're away on vacation or for work and can confirm they definitely do attract women in public spaces, but no way would I ever get a dog purely as a 'pulling accessory'.
/r/seduction30/09/22 06:45 PM
2

Honestly I'd have just paid someone by that point. Experience without the stress. Pick the right SW though, obviously.
/r/seduction25/09/22 01:46 PM
7

"Women will subconsciously tell you what they need for you by how they act, so throw out some tests of your own to work out what she is missing" This seems on point in principle but could you give a couple of examples of those type of tests?
/r/seduction19/09/22 08:37 PM
1

For sure I always focus my energies on those who give me energy back. I did too much of the 'unrequited love' thing in my 20s and it made me miserable overall.
/r/seduction19/09/22 06:13 PM
10

Or you could be a bartender/DJ. I've been (and am) both. It helps. Be in control of the vibes.
/r/seduction16/09/22 09:26 PM
1

I feel you, I'm an only child and also on the spectrum, touch starved, never had physical intimacy growing up. But I had to start learning.
/r/seduction16/09/22 08:59 PM
1

Which part of Europe? I'm 5'9, average height for where I live (south west UK) and actually taller than most locals when I visit southern Europe. But if I go to Germany, Netherlands or Scandinavia I'm a good few inches shorter than most locals yet I found the women in those places way easier to deal with than at home or in France/Spain/Italy, and in fact I've never had so many women come up to me and open a conversation than in those places. So my advice is just focus on projecting the right ima…
/r/seduction16/09/22 07:40 PM
1

It's hard to quantify. Generally a combination of a GSOH, empathy and emotional literacy. One of my friends who I've known over 15 years now, literally buying the dude a cold drink on a hot day without asking first but realising he was busting his ass outdoors at the height of the sun in the middle of summer for low pay. Other people, a shared connection through music. Others, through a natural tendency towards hospitality and being a good cook.
/r/seduction15/09/22 07:29 PM
1

12 hours work and 10 hours sleep for me, most of my other downtime I'm exhausted 😩
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:20 PM
2

I think most guys want to get to a level where they can pull regularly on a night out or first date whenever they feel like it but a far smaller proportion actually want to be doing that forever. It's about feeling empowered to not settle for the first woman who acts interested in a relationship, I guess.
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:17 PM
2

Idk, I kinda disagree about 'it's not your parents fault', unfortunately I grew up in a fairly sex-negative household and I was actually banned from having girlfriends until I eventually left home to go to university, by which point I'd never even kissed a girl whilst most of my peers had had active sex lives since sixteen or even earlier - I literally did not know how to go about any if it. I also was basically scared shitless of STDs, unwanted pregnancy because I'd been so heavily discouraged …
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:04 PM
4

This was my 'strategy' when I was younger. It didn't work. It just meant I had unrequited feelings for many of the women in my social circles.
/r/seduction27/07/22 04:29 PM
2

Idk OP, did you want to get laid, or prove a point?
/r/seduction21/07/22 04:58 PM
2

So not strictly related to the OP but related to your comment, I grew up in a fairly small town and thanks to moving back here and seeing some old faces, plus the miracle that is social media (/s) pretty much anyone who was 'hot' in school looks kinda clapped now, and look a decade or more older than their actual age. Meanwhile a lot of the girls who were overlooked then have blossomed. And it's similar for some of the guys as well. The thing is with the 'hotties' from school is that they physic…
/r/seduction21/07/22 04:54 PM
3

"I'm kind of a big deal. I own many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany" 60 percent of the time, it works every time (if they've seen Anchorman)
/r/seduction21/07/22 04:40 PM
1

I tend to disagree. Whenever I've been to local meetup events they were more full of thirsty guys trying to get with the women at the event that the women were overwhelmed and the guys that were genuinely there to connect with new friends regardless of gender mostly got ignored by both genders. Or if you did get into a conversation with a woman, other men were constantly trying to cut into the conversation, talk to her and ignore me. You can enjoy a few drinks in a bar and not be an alcoholic, y…
/r/seduction17/07/22 07:21 PM
1

Unfortunately sometimes women's friend circles think they know what their friend wants more than their friend does. I've had a few encounters over the years where I've hit it off with a woman, we've hung out in the venue for an hour or longer, had a couple of drinks together etc, then we go back to her friends and they're openly hostile, physically get between us etc etc. And that's not even a case of me being creepy, openly hitting on her in front of them or behaving in a way that will put them…
/r/seduction17/07/22 07:18 PM
12

People are either attracted to you, or they're not. And vice versa. If you're meeting people from online then there is obviously a degree of attraction based off photos but it's in the flesh where people get to see the other angles that haven't been carefully chosen to hide the less attractive features, your posture, your sense of humour, and of course the chemistry side of things ie compatible pheromones. I was with my ex 7 years, we met online and I wasn't particularly taken with her photos. H…
/r/seduction21/06/22 04:38 PM
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