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yea that's why you guys struggle
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:54 PM

We filter through status, that's why a man who's rich, well-respected in a community, or "good at math" can potentially be a turn on because a lot of it is context based even if obviously physical looks matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:58 PM

In her defense she describes a high value man as like either "having muscles" or "being good at math". It's true, female attraction is complicated lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:42 PM
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That's not the male wall he just got fat - edit: or apparently abused roids. If he leaned out again or did whatever he was doing to look like when he was younger he'd see little difference in his success. That's not taking into account how his personality might have changed over time tho or how that would affect his appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:56 PM

Do you know what "looksmatch" means?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:53 AM

i'd date him he's a 7 for me, conventionally quite attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:40 AM

.....The overweight woman is not his looksmatch. What are you on? Lmao who would be blind enough to downvote this? I can't take yall seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:38 AM
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It might be more that the red pill is associated with non-PC "based" truths and as you get older you become both more jaded - so less open to idealistic leftist talking points - and eyes more opened to the "way things are". Ofc the premise is that the red pill actually speaks the entire truth, so there's probably a lot of personal bias and skewed perception there at least in some cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 08:17 PM
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I mean I prefer kind of a slimmer build but hey a bigger athletic one aint no dealbreaker
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:22 AM
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Yes, you can be masculine and dominant but not a dickhead. There are women out there who will date dickheads as long as they are masculine and dominant but that doesn't mean it's okay morally to be a dickhead. A lot of men get mixed messages on this because nobody has taught them to be masculine and everyone just tells them to be nice and respectful, and I understood how that can be frustrating af as well when guys who struggle see successful dickheads.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:13 AM
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zero bodyfat will do that to your face (and maybe body)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:55 PM
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Love them. Like some muscle as long as it's not too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:54 PM
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But what I mean is if a lot of women prefer that then isn't that the same as men preferring thin women aka thin men = thin women? If we can agree that beauty standards in the conventional sense in our society are more male gaze oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:50 PM
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I prefer men on the thinner side and so do a lot of women I know contrary to the american convention. Would prefer a little bit of muscle tone - lean, thin and athletic being the ideal - as well but it's not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 09:08 PM
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Trying to approach the average plus sized model as a guy with a double chin in this era will get you laughed at and brutally mocked on her tiktok page for daring to not know your place. Not saying it's okay to be fat but seriously though this is also just another way women get very triggered when unattractive men approach or hit on them. It makes them afraid that they are on the same level due to somehow believing that men only approach women in their league. Women should be thankful men are so …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:14 PM
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A quick google of male standup comedians actually shows that fat male comedians are a minority...which says something since being fat is a majority of the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:28 PM
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You must watch very little to no comedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:10 PM
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I mean, it's hard for me personally to believe women are happy alone because frankly there aren't very many women who are alone (or alone for long). They are either with the man of their choice or they settle hard, because they can't bear being alone. Maybe it's b/c I don't know a lot of women over 40, or the single ones aren't social and keep to themselves, but I just go by what I see. I'm sure many men aren't happy being alone either, but it's a different story due to how much harder it is for…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:31 AM
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The idea that as a whole men who suck at dating can't move on but women who struggle or have bad experiences with men are moving on just fine. What are you basing this off of?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:29 PM
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Being kind and wholesome is neutral and does nothing. That needs to be the takeaway. Men looking for dating advice need to throw that shit away and ignore articles dispensing this trash, because the problem is somewhere else. Social prowess, looks, confidence, ambition, status, money, dress. Literally anything but 'not being nice enough'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 10:38 PM
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Obviously looks help a lot. But so does masculinity, in that effeminate behavior will turn off a portion of women who were initially drawn to a man's looks. Also, masculine behavior helps men who aren't as facially or physically blessed and you see evidence of this everywhere. The fact that looks alone can help a man succeed doesn't refute any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 10:27 PM
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Lol. The 'effeminate pretty boys' are all masculine looking with angular features - kpop, e-boy, whatever. It's the boy band look that's always been popular among young women since the beginning of time. They just have good hair and skin and are young. Not having a beard or a roided-out physique doesn't mean they aren't masculine. Find me an actual feminine guy with soft undefined features and no muscle tone who gets a lot of attention. You won't. When you take away the appearance factor and jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 10:16 PM
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bc women can tell if a man is masculine vs if a man is just doofy trying to act masculine. Literally zero men who are actually convincingly masculine have trouble getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:35 PM
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Is this online? How do you know they aren't putting in any effort? B/c I'm sure these men aren't specifying that explicitly in their posts and complaints even if they weren't. "I'll admit I'm a fat broke piece of shit but I swear women are so entitled these days"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:29 PM

https://www.helpguide.org/articles/anxiety/anxiety-medication.htm#:~:text=The%20antidepressants%20most%20widely%20prescribed,and%20post%2Dtraumatic%20stress%20disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:23 PM
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Yeah par for the course for someone who can't deal with the real world or any discomfort. Not worth any further elaboration or response.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:05 PM
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Did I imply she was obligated to do anything more? Say you're busy or not interested and that's that. Doesn't mean the guy is a creep or at fault for approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:49 PM
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Lol they don't consciously do it, but unconsciously, definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:34 PM
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There are a couple of takeaways The man is indeed awkward sounding and extremely socially inept. Going by this alone men shouldn't be criticized or called creeps just from being socially incompetent or weird. The amount of comments from women ITT condemning him simply for trying and not being good at it are telling, but basically par for the course in this day and age. Looking further into the situation she might be underage or only 18 or the guy might have ignored previous signals in an earlier…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:32 PM
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Small dick and virgin jokes are the go-to for man-hating women who absolutely cannot stfu about toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 09:20 AM
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The problem isn't that women only want attractive men to approach them. Most people find it awkward and uncomfortable to have to turn someone down because they just aren't interested, but it's called life and being a fucking grownup lol. But don't act or call these men you don't find attractive enough morally inferior creeps - it's not toxic masculinity, misogyny, patriarchy etc when a hot guy doing the same shit is welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 01:20 AM
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Women love to pull the gay card every time men talk about the blackpill or looks privilege in other men. "Looks like you're more obsessed with Chads than women are, hee hee herr" It lets them be insulting, dismissive, and self-righteous all at the same time. It's also often just straight up homophobic which is weird coming from women who are mostly and decidedly feminist and progressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 01:16 AM
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It's true for the most part from what I've observed. The guy is almost always better looking than the woman. The exception is the couple that has been together for a long time and the guy, once handsome and fit when she first agreed to date him, who let himself go; he's basically a tall decent-looking guy who's gotten fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 12:53 AM
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It's not that autistic traits in women are more attractive lmfao. It's that autism and social awkwardness hurts men way way way more than it hurts women because conversation skills and initiative, social proof, prowess, and networking translating to status are very important criteria when men are assessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:13 PM

What about other crucial criteria for men that are controllable and also affect men with age like facial attractiveness, hair loss, body (not every man is motivated or has the time to live in the gym past 40) etc? Aside from height it seems like men would also have very much a vested interest in keeping standards low or manageable. Men are also heavily assessed by other things like status or stability which don't necessarily come easy for many despite hard work but you don't see men starting cam…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:17 PM
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Do women not view each other as competitors? I think due to biological wiring they just approach it differently. Women secretly know fat women won't ever be as attractive as thin or fit women regardless of the sociopolitical narrative but they just play along because conforming to social norms is more important to them e.g. obviously feigning kindness toward and backstabbing actual hot women and complimenting yass queen so beautiful on the instagrams of those they know aren't a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:35 AM

So is the consensus then that OLD doesn't work b/c of hypergamy? In that only the top percent of men will find success so it sucks for men, and it sucks for women b/c it encourages these top men to just share the women and deprive them of commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:49 PM

My bad I don't actually know how OLD works. I forget you need to swipe on the chick too to get a match.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:45 PM

LOL why was I downvoted for asking a question. Lotta sensitive ppl here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:44 PM

Shitty average men are not going to have the chance to actually exercise their desired fuckboy lifestyle whereas shitty Chads will. Also you could say having a plethora of opportunities which is likely only for Chads encourages and propagates shitty fuckboy attitude and practices in these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:39 PM

Seems highly unlikely if you are getting a few matches a day from attractive women that you wouldn't at least be getting some swipes from less attractive or average women as well unless something fishy is going on like app issues or as you say bots.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:24 PM

Is it commonly agreed upon here that if a woman is desperate and single approaching 30 it's because she's unwilling to date or settle for someone on her level?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:16 PM
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