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As a woman (with mixed feelings on feminism) I'm interested in knowing what specifically about these "feminists" makes you think they hate men and/or that they are trying to make mens' lives miserable. Personally I think the biggest problem I have with both *some* feminists and "masculinists" on both sides is that they need to apply more logic and less bias. For example if you look at some sites related to women you'll get an endless barrage of comments about the negative habits of some male sig…
/r/MensRights21/07/25 03:49 PM
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It must be super hard right now to be Donald Trump or Elon Musk. Which do you think has it worse?
/r/MensRights05/02/25 01:21 PM
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To be honest this sub is turning into a male version of the worst types of so called feminists. I've seen some forums where women get so upset about something that literally one obscure man nobody's ever heard of said. 😨 I think there should be a rule that people shouldn't complain about something until you have proof that at least ten people said it. Nobody should get upset about something two or three people commented on, let's bump it up to ten at least before we assume the world is falling a…
/r/MensRights21/01/25 04:38 PM
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I don't agree with the things you say however the way you speak is very coded so it's hard to know exactly what you mean in the first place. If a girl in a classroom is doing girly things, playing with her dolls, speaking softly, or doing other feminine things etc., the institution as well as her parents shame her, tell her that she is a weakling and she needs to stand up for herself and be an angry, mean, badass b*tch. This is how society has treated both the boys and the girls because the soci…
/r/MensRights15/01/25 03:00 PM
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It's not easier for women to "get men". It's generally easier for women to acquire sexual relations but that's just because men are less picky about that in general. It's often harder for women to obtain a good relationship. Just from the standpoint of logic it's pretty much impossible for average women to "get" average men at a higher rate unless: A larger number of women are opting out of dating men for whatever reason, either due to same sex preference or simple disinterest in dating men One …
/r/MensRights02/01/25 02:36 PM
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The idea that women are pickier than men is untrue. A large percentage of men prefer women who are really young, slender, pretty, and childless. A large percentage of women prefer men who are tall, fairly attractive, confident, and either comfortable financially or have prospects for the future (if young). A lot of young men complain about women being picky but in some cases the kind of women you're around are the type almost every man on earth wants to date. They're the crème de la crème of all…
/r/MensRights27/12/24 12:21 PM
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I think some men here are a bit naïve. The person that said she was sad that it seems all the babies born nowadays are boys has some kind of foreign (Indian looking?) script.That 4B movement originated in South Korea. Many people around the world are becoming more and more similar.
/r/MensRights20/12/24 09:08 PM
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No the most natural thing is the desire to be self sufficient (for both men and women). Nobody can be totally self sufficient like in the past but the people who desire to be taken care of by others, including many women who are stay at home mothers today, is the oddity. And no, the modern day SAHM is not like the traditional version. Traditionally the things women did were very important to society. By this I mean: spinning/sewing maybe lightweight gardening cooking from scratch preserving food…
/r/MensRights02/12/24 07:48 PM
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To be honest I think a new form of modern art could be invented by tapping into the frustration of all types of groups based on things you usually can't express. For example that recent example of a banana duct taped to a wall brought in over 6 million dollars (and the owner simply ate it). But can you imagine if this was connected to something average people care about and allowed them an outlet for anger. As a woman this wouldn't be that meaningful because the media pretty much does that our g…
/r/MensRights30/11/24 09:19 PM
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I agree. The problem is that most people just want to gripe about things and it's easier to complain than to try to be fair and considerate of others. I'm an independent but one problem I have with liberals is that a lot of them think the best way to advance society is to associate privilege with certain successful groups of the past: men, white people, Westerners, heterosexuals, etc. and then spend excess time "checking" their privilege by being overly critical in some cases, as well as "cheeri…
/r/MensRights30/11/24 09:07 PM
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I suppose you think men are so pure and holy they would never do such a thing.
/r/MensRights19/11/24 06:46 AM
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But what is "unlawful sexual activity" if there is no penetration? How do women now avoid being brought up on false rape charges. For example, if a man has a grudge against a woman and she (not knowing this) kisses him on the cheek or lightly touches him on the shoulder could he claim this is "rape"? I understand some things can't be exactly defined but there needs to be some kind of attempt.
/r/MensRights19/11/24 06:44 AM
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Okay, I'll ask you what I asked other people on here. How does a woman rape a man? In other words if she wanted to be careful to avoid this, what should she avoid?
/r/MensRights19/11/24 06:36 AM
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Most men on here just think women have a soft and easy life in every way. When I go to some women's sites they say the exact opposite. I think there are certain tendencies that make life harder for one gender or the other, but I think it has more do to with the individual and their exact experience. I'm not really interested in "debating" this concept.
/r/MensRights19/11/24 06:33 AM
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Rape is essentially defined as a male forcing sexual intercourse on a female, so this translates as desire to a male but submission to a female. If a couple willingly has sex, it's still the desire of a male but submission of a female. Yes, it could be based on the desire of a female, but it's not definitional. In other words she can either willingly or unwillingly submit.
/r/MensRights19/11/24 05:57 AM
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I may look at this tomorrow if I have time but to be honest, I'm not sure what the dispute is at this point. It's not like I doubt women occasionally commit crimes and I don't disagree they should be punished. Have you even viewed my other comments? My original response was based around someone who described situations of women abusing men and getting away with it and added the quote "If that's not privileged, I don't know what is." I disagree with this allegation as I don't believe we live in a…
/r/MensRights19/11/24 05:51 AM
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Oh, come on. We know very well what it is. Are you trying to turn this into some kind of strange trick question that borders the transgender "what is a woman" controversy?
/r/MensRights19/11/24 05:26 AM
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Sexual intercourse happens when both of them desire it So you're saying that a man raping a woman is not sex? Or are you saying she secretly wants it?
/r/MensRights19/11/24 05:09 AM
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Pregnancy could be as a result of rape/incest, OR an accident as no birth control is 100%. I've already explained my opinion on the draft. Did you actually read it?
/r/MensRights19/11/24 05:06 AM
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Are you kidding me? Almost everything back then was done at the behest of male leaders. If you look hard enough you can find evidence for ANYTHING. I'm not arguing this further because you have the same problem as some of the feminists where you just enjoy complaining. I don't. I prefer solutions.
/r/MensRights17/11/24 04:12 PM
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It simply says this page doesn't exist but at the end of the day I don't agree with what I suspect you're trying to say. I'm not the kind of person who understands any of this. All this prejudice against men didn't really start in any significant way until the beginning of this century. Before that the media was massively prejudice against Southerners and some liberals still are. They constantly go around talking about how people in blue states bankroll people in red states and go off on them al…
/r/MensRights17/11/24 03:16 PM
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That's not really evidence, that's just one example. Are you kidding me, there are crazy people everywhere so shining a light on a few of them proves nothing. People tolerate and encourage crazy and/or evil men too.
/r/MensRights17/11/24 02:17 PM
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Because men don't believe your virtue signalling. You've lost our trust, and now you're paying the consequences. Who has lost your trust? I've never harmed anyone and don't feel guilty about anything. Are you trying to treat people as individuals or simply hating on some random woman here and there simply because a bunch of women, feminists, or liberals somewhere made you mad? If you are blaming random women for things they can't control then you can hardly complain if a bunch of them do the ver…
/r/MensRights17/11/24 11:06 AM
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No a lot of women that agree with this sentiment are black (amongst others) I can assure you.
/r/MensRights17/11/24 10:58 AM
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I'm an independent who voted Democrat (since the mid-terms) since I'm strongly against religion in government, and I believe Trump is a threat to democracy. So, yea, of the two I voted for Democrats. But I strongly disagree with Democrats on things and have had several disagreements with some of them. A lot of them dislike people like me anyway since I tick FOUR boxes some of them have issues with (white, rural, Southern, and then you can add "red state" inhabitant). The only major American demo…
/r/MensRights17/11/24 09:37 AM
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I very much have sympathy for men in general but I'm not sure it does any good? One thing I think men need to pay attention to is that although some men SAY they desire sympathy and understanding, their actions are often quite different. Recently I've noticed that almost whenever a woman comments on male oriented complaints to agree with them (or saying they don't like feminism or whatever) a huge percent of the men either immediately get snippy with them and say they still don't understand what…
/r/MensRights17/11/24 08:13 AM
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I think "carry yourself with the entitlement of an mediocre female goddess" hits about right
/r/MensRights17/11/24 06:05 AM
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I get so sick of liberals maintaining outrage by this whole demographic psycho babble. They actually do this with white people and even white women too though. For example for the last few days there's been a lot of analysis (esp. by black women) about why white women voted for Trump with the number one answer being (ding, ding, ding) racism.
/r/MensRights17/11/24 05:59 AM
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Evidence?
/r/MensRights16/11/24 09:27 PM
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So you actually undermine the cases where men have gone through actual rape and sexual abuse cases from women No, I don't undermine it at all but I just don't believe "Women are privileged in the fact that they are often infantalized by the criminal justice system.." I don't remember saying anything about blaming men or implying it's okay for a woman to sexually abuse males. You make it sound like hordes of women run around targeting men and boys for rape and sexual abuse all the time. Women dru…
/r/MensRights16/11/24 12:40 PM
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I'm fine with the absence of religion, but secularism imo is a tactic to stop people from calling out BS and extremism in other religions Okay, instead of secularism I would simply label this liberalism? Anyway, I consider myself to be a very logical person so I try to avoid disparaging people for things they cannot help. Being from the Middle East certainly qualifies as does having a Muslim heritage/background, however I also strongly believe that people need to be able to critique things that …
/r/MensRights16/11/24 12:16 PM
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You started off as "I can’t wait (for) the media and a lot of women" and then moved to: "The disease in our society is that people . . ." I was only referring to the way the mainstream media discusses a case when it's first reported, and in almost every case I've seen they look for the reason behind the act regardless of whether it's a man or woman. And second of all, literally all filicide cases I have seen (5 at number) so far, especially with a mother who killed her daughters and husband, got…
/r/MensRights16/11/24 11:38 AM
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Cool, it doesn't matter WHAT you say here because the reality is that women often get away with false rape accusations with little to no actual consequences and, if they do face any consequences they pail in comparison to what the man they accused face / would have faced. But I've already said I agree with this part! We disagree with the question of "what is rape". The main concept that is questionable is your original comment: Women are privileged in the fact that they are often infantalized by…
/r/MensRights16/11/24 06:12 AM
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You might go to some subreddits associated with the LAW for very basic advice?
/r/MensRights16/11/24 01:48 AM
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I'd be shocked if you haven't seen any stories of female teachers getting caught "Having Sex With" younger male students (Because we aren't allowed to call it what it is.. statutory rape) I think I've seen a few in passing but isn't it based on them going to jail? Also, one of the very first things you said to me was: Women are privileged in the fact that they are often infantalized by the criminal justice system.. This is obvious given how often women get MUCH lighter prison sentences compared …
/r/MensRights16/11/24 01:43 AM
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So.. tell me.. what's the difference between a man using a car to kill someone vs a woman doing the same thing? I woman can claim a man is abusive towards her and encourage other men to commit violence for for her (Violence by proxy) And of course.. when a woman is armed with a weapon be it a knife, gun, poison, a car etc.. then that can and often DOES swing the balance of power in the other direction.. after all.. it doesn't matter how much physically stronger a man is compared to a woman when …
/r/MensRights16/11/24 01:41 AM
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Women are privileged in the fact that they are often infantalized by the criminal justice system.. This is obvious given how often women get MUCH lighter prison sentences compared to what men get for the same (often violent) crimes. I have no idea about this, so you would have to show me some stats. That would be due to the definition of "Rape" in most western countries being deliberately tailored to conclude that ONLY men can commit rape.. If we changed the definition to be more gender neutral …
/r/MensRights15/11/24 11:04 PM
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Most of the media doesn't (generally) sympathize with women who kill their children or anybody else. They might look into reasons why they did it, but they do the very same for men who do it it too! That's not the same as excusing it. A lot of people here struggle with logic and it's a disease in our society nowadays. You get this with both male and female oriented sites, black and white, liberal and conservative, and everything else.
/r/MensRights15/11/24 08:25 PM
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I have a problem with some of the things that feminists say and disagree with the non-stop analysis about "the patriarchy" however we certainly don't live in a society that privileges women to any great degree. In terms of the charge that women sexually groom males . . . these are still very rare events compared to the opposite. More importantly, women are still weaker against most males (once they reach puberty) so are less able to defend themselves. With comparable males, it's the very opposit…
/r/MensRights15/11/24 08:16 PM
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I agree. I have no problem with some aspects of feminism and/or masculinism but spending excess amounts of time on gender wars is insane. Also don't forget most of the right is usurped by the religious right. Do you have any clue how wealthy some of the televangelists are?
/r/MensRights15/11/24 07:56 PM
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Blind to what? I'm agnostic who believes you can't prove things either way. I do believe very strongly that society and government needs to be completely secular and non-religious but that's as far as it goes. It’s surface level BS that’s been refuted already by several religious scholars and these people just refuse to counter argue What do you mean by this? I find it hard to believe most atheists would refuse to counter argue.
/r/MensRights15/11/24 01:48 AM
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Disagreeing with people is not the same thing as hating people. (You're always going to have some people cross the line.) Personally I believe in a higher power but I simply don't believe in religion and believe it's one of the biggest problems of mankind. A lot of this wouldn't be as much of an issue if Republicans understood the separation of church and state.
/r/MensRights15/11/24 01:29 AM
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I'm on reddit atheism and I like it. What do you find offensive about it?
/r/MensRights15/11/24 01:04 AM
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You consider atheism harmful?
/r/MensRights14/11/24 02:07 PM
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I think she should be able to send him off to war, whether he likes it or not. This way she has a say in his life so it's not all about him.
/r/MensRights14/11/24 02:04 PM
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MGTOW is essentially based on the concept of men "going their own way" and ignoring women. 4b is essentially based on the concept of women avoiding dating, sex, marriage, and childbirth. How can an unbiased person suppose that the latter is somehow mean spirited towards men while the former is not? So it's now a sin for a woman to simply keep to herself and not bother anyone? Especially in the U.S. where there are abortion bans and women who have suffered from it?
/r/MensRights14/11/24 01:12 PM
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Multiple posts about women punishing men for thinking differently or having an opinion. What specific comment is based on women punishing men for thinking differently or having an opinion? The world seems to be full of videos and reports based on male opinions and they certainly aren't punished for it by women. The top post is about a woman who is blowing up her entire families holidays because she doesn't believe they should have an opinion different than hers. A lot of conservative media talk …
/r/MensRights14/11/24 12:36 PM
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women are ambitious today? not by a chance, i don't see any ambitious, just a desire to become rich and lazy. A lot of conservative men spend roughly half of their time complaining about these "business oriented" women who "value their career" more than having a family. But they spend the other half complaining that "Many women contribute almost nothing, they just choose a deal." and "i don't see any ambitious, just a desire to become rich and lazy" which implies that women are lazy golddiggers …
/r/MensRights14/11/24 11:41 AM
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Men build houses, nations, create laws and form societies in the hope women would appreciate the comfort what is provided for them. Many women contribute almost nothing, they just choose a deal. This is exactly why women are becoming so ambitious nowadays and aren't overly concerned about creating a family. We see what men REALLY think about traditional women and the scarcity of powerful women.
/r/MensRights14/11/24 06:06 AM
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Just out of curiosity, did you vote for Trump because you've always been Republican, or is it more of a sudden appeal towards Trump? Do you understand why some people have huge issues with him? The reason I say this is because I've always been a diehard moderate independent. Until the 2020s I didn't even generally vote so I can honestly see a lot of topics from both sides.
/r/MensRights14/11/24 05:52 AM
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Are we honestly looking at the same things here? When I clicked on your link here's what I see: Ban on women marrying after 25. The bizarre proposal to boost birth rate in Japan My husband and his family voted for Trump so I'm cancelling holidays New defense secretary doesn't want women in combat roles Pic of Indiana Jones punching a guy with text "remember we punch facists here" Trump taps Rep. Matt Gaetz as Attorney General Trump plans for education based on patriotism, bring back school praye…
/r/MensRights14/11/24 05:38 AM
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No, they're movements, however small. We can tie specific traits to people subscribing to them, such as stoicism to MGTOW, or radical feminism to 4b. MGTOW has nothing to do with stoicism and it's usually not even connected to men "going their own way". If men really want to go their own way, wouldn't women going their own way (4b) be the best way to support them in that? No more paying for women's meals, child custody disputes, or child support payments. Women aren't trying to force men into wa…
/r/MensRights14/11/24 01:46 AM
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Sorry, I meant to say why do you think opposing the draft is bad
/r/MensRights13/11/24 11:50 PM
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Here we go again. The root of this problem is with men and you're trying to assume that women bear a considerable amount of responsibility because you're looking to blame women for everything. Constrast this to the abortion argument. There are TONS of women up in arms about that, esp. compared to men. Many men even make fun of women for supposedly caring so much about this issue. And yes, most of the politicans writing and passing the legistation on this are generally men. So where are all the m…
/r/MensRights13/11/24 11:46 PM
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I agree but that's not up for a vote.
/r/MensRights13/11/24 11:21 PM
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I'm not sure I agree. I don't think anyone calling themselves a label is going to fix anything. And if people don't feel something naturally it does no good to try to mock and coerce them. I say this from the perspective of both men and women's rights. In most cases it would be better to try to understand their point of view while also understanding that some people on both sides are pretty biased and unreasonable. Just my two cents. 😉
/r/MensRights13/11/24 12:20 AM
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Why do you think the draft is bad?
/r/MensRights12/11/24 10:25 PM
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That's only true for Democrats like Clinton, for Donald Trump it was completely ignored because so many people love him so much.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 10:20 PM
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Who is "they"? Women largely don't care about this issue and if men do they need to get with other men and fix it. But most men on here don't want to do that because they'd prefer to blame women for everything.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 10:19 PM
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If a women is able to get an abortion then there is no child to pay for, yet most men voted for the religious party that is against this so I have no sympathy for male Trump supporters who have to deal with this.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 10:16 PM
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Works for me and I'm pretty sure most secular people would agree.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 10:12 PM
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Based on what I've read it's simply based on some stories generating a guaranteed audience. (The same is true for black men being accused of police abuse.) My late grandmother used to keep up with stories about white women/girls going missing so the media feels compelled to lean towards stories that generate clicks and sales.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 10:10 PM
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Some people honestly seem to think they're going to earn respect and admiration by shoving their beliefs down everybody's throats and acting like a child. (A lot of school shooters have the same mentality.) The world just doesn't work that way. You cannot force people to like something they don't like. Would you have suddenly changed your opinions on topics had Kamala Harris simply won? Most of this issue is based on liberal or left leaning women seeking to avoid Trump supporters and since a lot…
/r/MensRights12/11/24 09:46 PM
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I'm not someone to advocate for banning people, but you really don't belong here. I came here for the reason I stated and at first I had some good conversations, but I doubt I'll stay much longer so don't worry. Also making sexual assault charges more fair isn't just about false allegations. It's also about acknowledging male rape victims (which looking at your post history you don't seem to think exist). You're right I don't. So I'll give you a chance to change that. Can you please explain to m…
/r/MensRights12/11/24 07:20 AM
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You're not looking at the whole picture. Men tend to discriminate more on age (hugely more), body weight, child status, and overall attractiveness to a small degree. Some men reject liberals/socialists (at least for relationships). Women tend to discriminate more on height, income, and maybe education to a certain degree. Some women strongly reject conservatives.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 02:27 AM
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Is this just for men? or both men and women?
/r/MensRights12/11/24 02:18 AM
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You didn't say anything about where you're from but I'm a woman that could get behind what you said. I'm an American and I would love to see a movement devoted to moderate politics and I understand that messages appealing to men are important too. (The biggest problem with some men is that they are either religious or are too conservative/dislike women for some reason.) I came to this site to try to learn about mens rights issues as well as what issues seem to be the most important to some men. …
/r/MensRights12/11/24 02:15 AM
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If 4b was just about celibacy, there would be no issues. But they've decided to openly dehumanize over half the human species. In reality things like 4b, MGTOW, & Incels are just theories and people apply things however they wish. The issue here with a lot of left leaning women avoiding Trump supporters is strongly based on idealogy, but it's just that many women are heterosexual so their dating life is going to be based on selecting for men. If they were looking for friends or roommates then th…
/r/MensRights10/11/24 10:25 PM
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MGTOW and incels aren't a problem in theory. But a certain percent of women are naturally repulsed by certain groups like conservatives, and it's not based on peer pressure or brainwashing. They're disgusted due to the sub human type MAGA mentality and behavior so it's not appearance or anything. Then again other women either like conservatives or are okay with them. This whole 4b thing is an attempt by some to encourage other women to be like them but I'm not sure it will work unless a woman is…
/r/MensRights10/11/24 08:54 PM
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So you're saying MGTOW is not isolationist based on a sexist belief?
/r/MensRights10/11/24 06:21 PM
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Do you defend red pill? Mgtow? Black pill? If you refuse to defend our extremists, don't defend theirs. What has this got to do with anything as I don't know much about male groups. 4B is not extremist, they are isolationist. My point is that all these talks of boycotts are meaningless because they would have done it anyway.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 06:08 PM
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A lot of men are misunderstanding this. A lot of this is women being angry in much the same as men on here, however these women are naturally repulsed by Trump supporters as a general rule. They are super unattracted to them in the same way as a man is for an older, overweight, ugly woman but they are simply disgusted that OTHER women date them. They aren't kidding when they say they hate them so they aren't interested in dating or sleeping with MAGA anyway. Even if they didn't call for a "boyco…
/r/MensRights10/11/24 03:21 PM
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Sending pornographic images to a minor is a legal issue, actually. So you’re wrong there. I said "should be" Men do call it out on both sides, Not in most environments they don't. I'll exclude certain specific sites (like this one) that people use for venting. It's fairly rare in safe liberal spaces, but almost anything remotely conservative, religious, or simply heavily male is totally different. I'm not saying they should change anything though because I don't think it serves anyone for them t…
/r/MensRights10/11/24 03:05 PM
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I think it should be up to the school. They could suspend or fire her depending on the exact details of each case. I haven't read about this exact case and don't care too.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 02:11 PM
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As you see from my comments it's the exact same. In my opinion either a man or women (teacher) sending or receiving pics to a male or female student should be solicitation of a minor. Doesn't matter which gender or if it's same or opposite sex either. It should be a character issue, not a legal issue where they've truly injured someone. Again if they had violated them by taking nude pics or having sex with them, that's totally different. Do you think it's different if the genders were reversed? …
/r/MensRights10/11/24 02:05 PM
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sex is a pleasure act for both individuals when consented I want to hear this definition of how women rape men and how to avoid it. Women don't want to be charged with rape because a man didn't somehow give "full enthusiastic and informed consent." If men are upset and worried they are going to be raped or sexually assualted, then women need to be very informed about what this is and how to avoid it.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 01:54 PM
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You STILL haven't described how a woman is raping a man. How the hell do we know if a man IS or IS NOT "fully enthusiastic and consenting"? In other words what should a woman do to avoid rape charges because God knows we don't want to deal with any more ridiculous legal charges from MAGA types or the Religious Right. Better yet, please spread this information on some of the main women's subreddits and forums so we can get a taste of the types of ideas that y'all are working on now. Based on what…
/r/MensRights10/11/24 01:43 PM
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I'm a woman but I think it's a waste of time to take some of the media too seriously. You can't take some of these self reported feelings like happiness, sadness, or stress literally because we can only compare things from time to time and not between other people. For example, all I know is how happy or unhappy I've ever been, but I can't compare it to other people.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 09:50 AM
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Are you saying there is actual intercourse or more like foreplay in any of this? In the case of a female boss and male employee that sounds more like sexual harrassment depending on the details.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 09:44 AM
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Apparently the extreme right are just like the extreme left when it comes to common sense. I'm sorry but men and women are different here. By definition sex is defined by male desire and female submission. Since sexual activity is not defined by female desire it is possible for her submission to be forced. But a man's desire is required. You could argue it is coerced in the case of a juvenile male and an adult woman but a grown man? I would have to read about some real life cases of this to unde…
/r/MensRights10/11/24 09:37 AM
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I'm not really talking about a woman with a young male but a grown man. Can you explain or link to me cases describing how a woman can "rape" a man.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 09:13 AM
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I suppose it's sexual solicitation of a minor and in my opinion it should be a misdemeanor, at least the first time. Obviously this raises a serious issue regarding the teacher's character and should concern school officials as a potential red flag towards other students in the future; I should think the school would fire them. Having said that, I don't view solicitation as the same as some kind of actual abuse in the sense of involving the government. For example, if the teacher (either male or…
/r/MensRights10/11/24 09:08 AM
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No. I also don't think it's good for people to cheat on their spouse but I don't think they should be put in prison. There's a difference between a moral issue and truly harming someone in a way that should be illegal.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 07:33 AM
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Well that's just it. I think if conservatives had their way half of the country would be in jail for something while if liberals were totally in charge almost no one would be.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 06:03 AM
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Wining and dining isnt an important part of life Lol. I was using that as an example because I was implying that men weren't willing to pay for a woman's meal. It's also your opinion that it's not important, for many women it might be. I suppose plenty of women would rather be wined and dined by a man than have sex. and every romantic relationship like sex and intimacy is, it would be the equivalent of men refusing to touch their wives, kiss them, be near them or for example refuse to stay loyal…
/r/MensRights10/11/24 05:54 AM
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You honestly think people should go to prison for sending photographs? I mean yea I understand the context is wrong because she shouldn't be doing it to a minor (same as a man) but that's just it, they're both wrong. I just don't think people should go to prison for it.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 04:28 AM
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Well where are you seeing it? I honestly don't see evidence that women hate men at all. Do I see a lot of women say things that I disagree with? YES. I mean yea you might see some woman occasionally get frustrated with her dating life and state "I hate men" on some social media site, but I don't usually take it seriously unless she does it several times. What types of things are you talking about?
/r/MensRights10/11/24 04:24 AM
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What's even worse is the cases where they are sued for children that aren't even theirs. I'm a woman but I don't understand how this is even allowed. Pretty much everybody I have ever talked to (male or female) thinks this is ridiculous. Are there some people actually for it?
/r/MensRights10/11/24 02:38 AM
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The women withhold sex from Trump voters commercial. The 4B conversation by Democrat women after the election. If a bunch of men made a big deal about how they were going to stop wining and dining feminists then are you also saying these women would have a right to complain that it was prejudice against women? 😯 Women do not have a moral obligation to have sex with any man, and esp. Trump supporters who go around hating on women saying "Your body. My choice", questioning the 19th amendment, and …
/r/MensRights10/11/24 02:27 AM
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If rape is not male penetration then what is it?
/r/MensRights10/11/24 02:09 AM
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If rape is not male penetration then what is it?
/r/MensRights10/11/24 02:07 AM
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In my opinion forced military combat service should absolutely fall under bodily autonomy. It's not just about the right to receive (or reject) an abortion. Bodily autonomy could possibly be applied to a handful of other issues, but military combat service is borderline indentured servitude and is very similar to the abortion issue in many ways because the government is preventing you from doing what you want with your own body. I mean "land of the free"? What the hell.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 02:04 AM
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Just out of curiosity did she do more than send pics?
/r/MensRights10/11/24 01:44 AM
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Is that you Waldo? 🤓
/r/MensRights10/11/24 01:39 AM
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Are you worried about being invaded by a bunch of Amazon warriors? Maybe they will take all your money, tie you up, and rape you? Admittedly that could be pretty nasty, especially if they have biceps and firearms like Marjorie Taylor Greene. 🤪 At least MensRights will report on it and not just ignore it like all the mainstream media.
/r/MensRights09/11/24 09:15 PM
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The overwhelming vast majority of women do NOT hate men. We don't think all or even most are bad. Most of us don't desire revenge on males in any way. Even most feminists aren't like this either. Having said that, some women have experiences that often cause them to be scared so they feel the need to be more cautious and careful around men. Many women desire a world where more women have power and influence as well as female leaders. Those are totally normal things to want. Who in the hell wants…
/r/MensRights09/11/24 07:19 PM
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Oh please there won't be a bunch of women that try to boycott male owned businesses because there's too many of them and on top of that, most businesses have so many mixed influences that it's meaningless to achieve any result. To some degree it can be beneficial to boycott a religious or conservative business, like Hobby Lobby. That's the main thing I keep hearing about. The same is true for women supposedly boycotting all males. They might do it for outright Trump supporters or even male conse…
/r/MensRights09/11/24 06:30 PM
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Okay, so y'all are actually offended that some women want to simply avoid men for romantic reasons (4B)? If a woman or group of women want to simply be alone then how in the hell is that offensive?
/r/MensRights09/11/24 05:19 PM
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I also think religion plays a big part of this. I used to be a Southern Baptist in the rural South back in the 80s and 90s and lots of people were personally religious but people had a very strong belief in the separation of church and state back then. Abortion wasn't a topic and there were almost as many Democrats as Republicans. There were problems but people mostly got along well and politics was mostly a business decision. Today, Trump supporters really worry me because they seem to have the…
/r/MensRights09/11/24 12:58 AM
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A lot of these groups are male oriented. Based on this logic, the American heart association would be wrong if they only focused on Americans having healthy hearts and therefore need to focus on other ailments like cancer and alzheimer's. Certain organizations exist for a stated purpose. If you want a group to fight for other issues you would need to go there.
/r/MensRights08/11/24 09:36 AM
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If REAL Feminism exists, where are all the marches made for men’s problems and speaking out for men? Based on this logic, the American heart association would be wrong if they only focused on Americans having healthy hearts and therefore need to focus on other ailments like cancer and alzheimer's. Certain organizations exist for a stated purpose. If you want a group to fight for other issues you would need to go there.
/r/MensRights08/11/24 09:32 AM
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Wow, yet another dude that struggles with logic. American men haven't been drafted in roughly fifty years and the vast majority of things people vote on have nothing to do with the miltary or wars in any way. In fact Congress rarely consults us about these issues anyway. If women were constantly voting for men to be drafted in the same way tons of men keep voting for and implementing abortion bans, that would be totally different. But it's not. Women are usually against conscription and wars in …
/r/MensRights08/11/24 05:10 AM
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I don't know - is there something wrong with my logic? In some ways, yes. First, you're ignoring the reason for women's original lack of rights in the first place is also due to men. In other words, many men in history denied women the right to vote, and then later many men corrected it. This issue is very similar for slavery where people took the freedom of others and then they returned it, but they didn't "give" them anything they shouldn't have already had. As far as I'm concerned people of a…
/r/MensRights08/11/24 02:45 AM
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As a woman, the concept of "men going their own way" is not offensive in the slightest. The problem is that they largely don't follow through. When you go online to anything associated with MGTOW it's not filled with conversation about sports, tools, cars, and the like. They don't talk about how to help homeless men, lonely men, poor men, or anything like that. No, it's filled with rants about WOMEN and most of it is based on how women are unattractive, slutty, stupid, crazy, inferior, fat, etc.…
/r/MensRights08/11/24 02:30 AM
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I don't doubt that women emphasize other, shall we say, less shallow issues. Partly because it's true but partly because they're just trying to be positive and upbeat. but I don't know, maybe you do have good opinions and insight about what could help a man be more datable? you should try and talk to other men about it, specially with men who have issues with dating, just to see how wrong or right you are. Oh, I'd probably be awful regardless of the gender as I'm an introvert. I suspect extrover…
/r/MensRights06/11/24 07:32 PM
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Second of all, family values are the traditional roles of a family. Examples, the mother is the childcare taker while the father is the protector of the family and the provider financially. But this is not a really accurate depiction of traditional roles. One of the biggest myths is that the traditional male role is a breadwinner type who has a job and pays for everything while the wife is mostly just a housewife who sits at home with the children with little skills or functions to society. It's…
/r/MensRights05/11/24 08:28 AM
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3. https://www.bps.org.uk/research-digest/are-religious-people-really-less-smart-average-atheists Are religious people really less smart, on average, than atheists?Various studies have found that, on average, belief in God is associated with lower scores on IQ tests. One suggestion is that perhaps religious people tend to rely more on intuition. So, rather than having impaired general intelligence, they might be comparatively poor only on tasks in which intuition and logic come into conflict – a…
/r/MensRights05/11/24 07:20 AM
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Where is your source for the fact that unreligious people being smarter than the ones who believe, I am waiting. Here are three decent sources. How many do you need? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence#:~:text=The%20authors%20also%20investigated%20the,be%20%22highly%20statistically%20significant%22. Researchers Helmuth Nyborg and Richard Lynn compared belief in God and IQs.[6] Using data from a U.S. study of 6,825 adolescents, the authors found that the average IQ of athei…
/r/MensRights05/11/24 07:20 AM
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Oh, yea there's definitely certain looks that appeal to MORE people. I think I said that because you just seemed overly negative for some reason and I personally disagreed with the standard. but I was wondering more about the social roles, if women could be taking roles of providers, then men theoretically could take more nurturing or passive roles socially, if the modern change of roles was about equality,but that isn't happening, so I guess we come back to the contradiction of only linking pro…
/r/MensRights05/11/24 06:00 AM
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plenty of first or second-hand experience of men without any of those characteristics getting away with whatever they want because they are good looking, tall, charismatic, rich or all of those Okay but lots of women are attracted to men that are good looking, tall, charismatic, and rich. I've never seen any woman dispute this so I'd love to see proof that there are a bunch of hypocritical women everywhere saying this. I've also never seen women say oh, we love men that are short, ugly, poor, bo…
/r/MensRights05/11/24 05:09 AM
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As someone who used to be a Southern Baptist in the 80s and 90s trust me when I say it used to be an innocent thing where people tried to be good but the more politics from the Religious Right got involved, things completely changed. Now they're running the GOP too so it's actually dangerous and more akin to a cult.
/r/MensRights05/11/24 04:08 AM
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I think the reason democrats are losing men is because they hate them. Not only is every policy and the party generally anti-male but they literally, straight up, hate men. Why would any man vote against their own interests? As far as every policy being anti-male. . .???? I don't think the Democratic party itself necessarily hates men but some liberals just have all kinds of beliefs that encourage people in their circle to be against what they consider to be the old beneficiaries of past wealth …
/r/MensRights05/11/24 03:33 AM
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yeah, im not denying that, tall, jacked and handsome men are still the standard The overwhelming majority or men who have dated, been in relationships, or married women have been perfectly average. (I'll limit this conversation to relationships that women have chose of their own free will.) I don't have anything against tall men but I find them to be a turn off. Women have somewhat divergent tastes on what is handsome and most women don't care much for very muscular men.
/r/MensRights04/11/24 11:36 PM
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Some men are complete hypocrites on this issue. They spend half of their time complaining that women are too picky for whatever reason. But they spend the other half of their time complaining about how they hate fat girls, single mothers, old women (anybody more than two years their senior), too liberal, communist, atheist, smokes, drinks, party girl, too high body count, not attractive enough, boring, drama queen, too needy, too entitled, gold digger, etc. I think men have a right to be picky b…
/r/MensRights04/11/24 11:25 PM
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Women in 2024 are mostly single cause one, men are afraid to approach women cause of all high unrealistic standards and fear of judgement with creep or rapist. There are still lots of people who meet online or get to know each other organically. They have a social circle and get to know people from other people. In fact that's the best way to get to know people. women are brainwashed with the topic of getting careers and also getting a relationship Women aren't brainwashed into anything. Many wo…
/r/MensRights04/11/24 11:11 PM
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Being right? Right about what? Religious nations and places are always a disaster compared to the few secular nations out there. Most educated people nowadays are more unlikely to be religious compared to the ignorant. Whole family values? What values are those? Please list what you consider to be a "family value" because Republicans have been harping on about this for years without much display. Modernism? I'm sorry- you're against computers or the internet or whatever? Feminism? Traditional fi…
/r/MensRights04/11/24 10:27 PM
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It was made illegal in various states because the majority of voters in those states voted for it to be illegal in what is called a “democratic” process. Are you kidding me? No it was not. After Roe fell, various conservative state government leaders simply passed it and they did it quickly so people couldn't plan out their life based on it either. In some cases, there have been referendums to cancel what the state leaders originally banned but in many or most cases, there was no statewide elect…
/r/MensRights04/11/24 09:59 PM
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Where's the link?
/r/MensRights04/11/24 09:31 PM
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Yeah but my point was, if “Not All Men” is venting and it’s seen as an offensive way, don’t expect getting s different response when you type “Not All Women” when a guy gets killed/humiliated/bullied/harassed/discriminated by women, which unfortunately it does happen and people replying with “FRRR” or “Ye these are girls not WOMEN”, like a perfect example of double standards. Who are you talking to? I literally never do this. I don't even agree with it and have disagreed with all kinds of women …
/r/MensRights04/11/24 09:29 PM
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People who date based on political affiliations don't deserve to date anyone. This sounds so much like Communism. People can date however they please. Most highly evolved people have no desire to date or even befriend low evolved people. Low evolved people includes almost anyone who actually believes in the collection of old wives tales we call religion, supports the religious right, hates or exhibits prejudice based on a condition at birth (including gender), or believes the government should c…
/r/MensRights04/11/24 08:56 PM
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Like it’s fine to use it as a personal moral code Why would you use it as a personal moral code? Religion is the domain of the crazy, stupid, and evil. It has no place in an advanced society.
/r/MensRights04/11/24 07:41 PM
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Some of the problem here is that there's a difference between some isolated personal experience and something bigger. For example, a lot of men get on some women's websites where they are talking about their problems with their boyfriend or whatever and argue that "not all men" are like that. But in cases like these, they are just venting. The same is often true for men who talk to other men about their dating problems. But if you're talking about anger or prejudice that could possibly affect ot…
/r/MensRights04/11/24 07:36 PM
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Yea, the hate goes every which way and I'm sick of it. Although I blame the media way more than politics. Speaking of politics, one of the things that gets overlooked is that roughly 66 to 70% of all local elections in this country feature unopposed candidates. It's even higher for specific types of candidates (like judicial). This is terrible for democracy because even if you side with the political party of the candidate, it's not good to literally have no competition. I also believe this is a…
/r/MensRights03/11/24 05:30 PM
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No, they have needed it for the last few months but they don't know what to to do. Many men are very happy in the GOP and aren't open to anything else. By contrast, the GOP and religious right has done EVERYTHING to run off as many women as possible. The main reason they have any women in the party is mostly the brainwashing that comes from religion.
/r/MensRights03/11/24 05:18 PM
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No, I choose none. Are you saying that you agree or disagree with my version of bodily autonomy? Some have brought up other issues like the right to receive or reject substances and fluids (like vaccines, drugs, alcohol, raw milk, etc.). Of course just using a substance doesn't mean one should have the right to be a nuisance and pester other people by soliciting drugs or being out in public under the influence. I think freedom of movement is way more meaningful though. For example in the past Co…
/r/MensRights03/11/24 04:01 PM
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This whole hoopla about women voting is ridiculous. I'm GenX and I've gone through most of the my life w/o ever hearing anything about it until sometime well after Trump was elected. I used to be a Southern Baptist back in the 80s and 90s and none of us cared anything about abortion. We had lots of different denominations but people mostly got alone relatively well. Everyone strongly believed in the separation of church and state. Nobody talked about feminism either as it was strongly associated…
/r/MensRights03/11/24 03:49 PM
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To be honest, I'm not even trying to suggest most are misogynist in sort of a heavily internalized evil kind of way so much as a frustrated kind of way where they really believe everything is just stacked against men and for women. I know a lot of them feel like everything is against them but how do politicans appeal to them? What is a pro woman agenda?
/r/MensRights03/11/24 03:38 PM
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Because I got tired of them saying women decide elections I'm GenX and this is the first election I've ever seen that is supposedly based on "women". Mostly because each gender is such a large group with different voting patterns and therefore no compelling storyline. The reason it's different this time is because the Religious Right has taken over the GOP and they stupidly follow their orders against the will of the people. Nobody told the Republicans to do this so it's their own fault. In all …
/r/MensRights03/11/24 09:10 AM
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Abortion is all their dogma cares about. And fair enough if that's important to you, or even the MOST important thing to you, The core complaint is not really the lack of ability to get an abortion strictly speaking, the underlying issue here is lack of bodily autonomy and could equally apply to other issues like being forced to receive an abortion, being forcibly sterilized, or being forced into military combat service. I just wrote about this to FluffyCategory11 below and don't feel the need t…
/r/MensRights03/11/24 08:37 AM
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Biden had 4 years and Obama had 8 to pass a federal law for abortion. If they think Kamala is going to be any different then I have a bridge to sell them. Presidents don't pass legislation, Congress does, and it's mostly based on having enough people to vote on it. The President can only encourage legistation and either sign or veto it. The funny thing is, Trump himself has vowed to veto a federal abortion ban but all the propaganda says otherwise. So all of this drama about the election being a…
/r/MensRights03/11/24 08:20 AM
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Maybe if the left didn’t spend so much time demonizing men we would be voting for them. . .but just the delivery of those ideas gives me “the ick” as the kids like to say. . . and he isn’t out there demonizing us I'm a Southern white agnostic woman from a rural area, and I can't even count all the times I've experienced people (mostly liberals) disparaging Southerners, people from red states, or rural areas. I've also seen lots of things that I believe constitute prejudice against white people. …
/r/MensRights03/11/24 07:37 AM
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Who is trying to erode men's rights? Specifically I mean.
/r/MensRights03/11/24 12:58 AM
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You know nothing about Democrats. As someone who spends time with Democrats, the ultimate scapegoat is going to be liberal oriented people who vote third party, and esp. Jill Stein. This happened in 2000 with Nader over Gore's loss and various third parties in the Midwest in 2016. Most Democrats expect a large percent of men, religious people, and wealthy people to vote for Trump.
/r/MensRights03/11/24 12:55 AM
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The point is the same. The Religious Right DOES want to force women and they don't care about paper abortions either so that "forces" men into compliance just the same. You say women don't support this issue but how are you suggesting women do that as it's not a political issue to begin with? If a man is truely passionate about this one issue they should be for Democrats because you can't pay for a baby that isn't even born. If it is born, both parties stand for the same thing as it is now. Ther…
/r/MensRights03/11/24 12:44 AM
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Trump sucks up to female voters nevermind the entire GOP. The Democrats so far had Barack Obama scold black men, Michelle Obama guilt male voters by saying their girlfriends and wives might die from abortion laws. Trump sucks up to female voters? What the hell. When did he ever do that? Can you provide a link to this. I'll believe it when I see it. But hey, you're probably right about being silent while women suffer and die from abortion laws. Your feelings are so much more important than that. …
/r/MensRights02/11/24 10:29 PM
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What you just said has no logic to it because if a woman gets an abortion then there is no child to support in the first place. It's totally ridiculous to force a woman (esp. a teen or even younger like a ten year old) to have a baby they can't financially support. Some might say they could always give it up for adoption but it also seems wrong to force them to give up a baby they just gave birth to simply because they don't have enough money. I totally support the concept of paper abortions, bu…
/r/MensRights02/11/24 09:45 PM
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I totally disagree with thoughts expressed in the video, but people like you are just as bad. The Democrat campaign is 100% focused on women - and it’s working. I'm GenX and this is the only election in my life that has ever focused on just "women". In every other it's based around some niche like: the youth vote, black people, and some version of the white blue collar male/union vote. Mostly because "women" make up over half of the electorate, and that's just too big. The only reason Democrats …
/r/MensRights02/11/24 09:29 PM
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You have an excess of young men and a deficit of young women. Obviously most men want a woman their own age. It's also quite likely that the young women who are single are heavyset since there's a lot of that nowadays. At the end of the day I don't know what contributes to an incel problem but if there's not enough of something a lot of men are seeking that sounds like a good reason wouldn't you agree?
/r/MensRights01/11/24 05:24 PM
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I'm really confused right now. How does wanting baby boys create an INCEL problem? Wanting them doesn't but aborting or killing baby girls does. Did you read the first part through? I talked about an excess of male youth and mature women? Also, I think your take on relationships can be different from someone else's, even if they're also from Gen X like you. So yeah, in my opinion, it just reflects your views. Yea, actually it would be interesting to hear different people's point of view on this …
/r/MensRights01/11/24 05:54 AM
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Most western countries are morally and intellectually crap. There are plenty of things I'd change but compared to most countries? Well which ones do you like instead? Ignorant, Haiti, Yemen, with the exception of Afghanistan have problems way outside of religion. I simply chose randomly but there are plenty of others to choose from. Of course I'm not saying 100% of their problems are just religion alone obviously, but it's definitely a good bit. By the way, here's a brief post I made about Haiti…
/r/MensRights01/11/24 05:48 AM
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Most of this is nothing significant but this is a MensRights forum so I'll drop it
/r/MensRights01/11/24 12:49 AM
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No, I'm pretty sure it's at least somewhat of a worldwide thing- details may vary. Based on some things I've read there are big problems in China and India. In China, the longstanding one child policy coupled with a preference for baby boys created a huge gender imbalance (roughly 35 million more males in 2020). In India, there's been a problem with female infanticide because baby boys are strongly preferred there too. I think you might look at two comments/conversations I had here on MensRights…
/r/MensRights31/10/24 09:05 PM
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Well, we percieve them to be overly proud cause they are. I think that's self-evident if you live in America, or any western society for that matter. As for why they are problematic: Misandry (Strictly not all of them, but only the most visible ones) Cultish behaviour Usage of absurd extremist ideas to justify their actions I have no ability to look at this and translate this into specific details on what you might be thinking. Obviously my experiences as a woman are going to be different than y…
/r/MensRights31/10/24 05:32 PM
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Are you saying average men are very proud too? I don't think you really get what 'proud' means. The reason I said this is back when I asked you who were the ones (of varying types of people) that were so overly proud and you answered: Feminists, lesbians, sluts, childless women, and anybody else they believe has that "jezebel spirit". The ones you mentioned in your comments. I said something to the effect that this should be equalized because lots of people, including certain types of men, were …
/r/MensRights31/10/24 05:15 AM
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Maybe humble isn't a great word but I was comparing it to the other groups who have much more power. In some cases I would say they are ANNOYING. But in most cases they aren't passing laws like the politicans, shooting up the place, and most aren't wealthy overloads. Some dislike men but a lot of men dislike them back so that seems equalized, no? Are you saying average men are very proud too?
/r/MensRights30/10/24 05:19 AM
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Really? To me they seem the most helpless and humble. Why do you perceive them to be overly PROUD? I'm sure a few are but do you really think a lot are? To me the others are far more problematic: the people pushing abortion bans rich televangelists some of the gun toting conservatives in congress who deny science judgemental conservative christians who hate on women snarky liberals I've had some arguments with transgender women about their so called "rights" (privileges) so some of them are up t…
/r/MensRights30/10/24 04:47 AM
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Which ones are you calling overly proud people?
/r/MensRights30/10/24 04:24 AM
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Yea, I don't think he should go to jail. I've literally never wanted children so it's more of a theoretical concept to me.
/r/MensRights30/10/24 01:48 AM
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The liberals are too obsessed with wokeness, tolerant of crime, and they're always offended- mostly because they go around looking for things to be slighted by. They will develop some hypothosis that quickly populates into a theory. This is where you get the patriarchy, and all this white privilege and C.R.T. ("White people don't even know what this is.") My fav is the whole thing about a biological man w/o surgery being a "woman" because he says he/she has a female brain and needs to play sport…
/r/MensRights30/10/24 01:45 AM
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God, here we go again. Are you Catholic too? This is the third person who's brought this up. The other times they said it meant child or offspring? At any rate, just because something means one thing in Latin doesn't mean it translates to the exact same in English. Doesn't baptism denote washing or bathing in Greek? In English we have zygote, embryo, fetus.
/r/MensRights29/10/24 07:28 PM
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Yea, questioning religion is so "insane".
/r/MensRights29/10/24 07:20 PM
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I would definitely say most Western and East Asian nations are top of the list in general. Of course they have problems and challenges but I think what some well off people (who want to leave these places) ignore is that in most cases they have simply benefited from the advantages of living in these countries and now they just want to hate on them by leaving. People have a right to leave but their opinion has to be taken with a grain of salt. I mean do we really need to debate that places like N…
/r/MensRights29/10/24 07:18 PM
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The main predominant signs of life include: being fully developed, complete, finished being separate and independent (for the existence of life) being conscious and aware If a person is dying but on life support they have one or two of these. Generally babies and animals have all of these. A fetus of any kind has none to any great degree. I know they breathe and move a little but that's not much of a consciousness. Throughout human history most societies have tacitly agreed that higher forms of …
/r/MensRights29/10/24 07:17 PM
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Your not independent, you don't . . . That's more about self sufficiency. I'm talking about BODILY/BODY autonomy where a body is completely separate and not dependant on another person or machine for their LIFE. That's just one quality though. A fetus is also undeveloped and unconscious. I'll say this to, I'd stick to arguing against PL in a secular fashion because its clear your ignorant of the Bible. I used to be a devout Southern Baptist (in the rural South) back in the late 20th century. I a…
/r/MensRights29/10/24 05:19 PM
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A large part of the U.S. is the same way but it's mostly the unevolved bible thumpers and alpha cavemen that are the problem.
/r/MensRights29/10/24 02:24 PM
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By contrast, how many of us are pro-life? All of us- by dint of simple self-interest in being alive. Nope, sorry we aren't all pro-life. Given the choice of living in a world where women are just a bunch of indentured servants I'd rather be dead and I'm not exaggerating. I and many other women have no interest in living in some religious hellhole. Better to be dead than miserable. Beyond that, a fetus is a lower order of life and has no free will and certainly no "right to life". Women don't nee…
/r/MensRights29/10/24 12:49 PM
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A fetus is NOT a fully developed human being. It is lower order of life. That part matters! Religious conservatives nowadays show way more concern for fetuses compared to other forms of fully developed human life. This subject is nothing but a religious disease that's been transported to the republican party.
/r/MensRights29/10/24 12:31 PM
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Why do feminists always leap to the most extreme fringe possibilities to justify an action for the majority? It’s always, “Well, what about pregnancies from incest? What about pregnancies from pedophilia?” I have a huge issue with the defensive way the Democratic party has framed this issue as merely just a health concern. It's far more serious as a human rights issue. Having said that, most of the anti-choice people are the complete opposite. They have no qualms about destroying people's lives …
/r/MensRights29/10/24 11:50 AM
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I'm very politically independent and find that I can't stand things on both sides. Is this sort of your angle?
/r/MensRights29/10/24 11:28 AM
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Just out of curiosity did she ask you if wanted a baby? Did you have a relationship with her or was it more of a fling?
/r/MensRights29/10/24 11:23 AM
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Most women are not terrified of feminists at all. Most women aren't scared of men or bears unless there's a reason to be, but being cautious is not the same as being scared. Of course most women are against murdering BABIES but that's not the same as terminating a fetus. This religious practice of calling a fetus a baby is not going to fool us.
/r/MensRights29/10/24 11:21 AM
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It's not the job of any woman to "speak" for any other woman. So yes, pro-choice does speak for all women. If a woman doesn't want to have an abortion she doesn't have to.
/r/MensRights29/10/24 10:41 AM
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I'm a agnostic woman and I definitely don't in any way shape or form assume that any given man I meet is against abortion at all, but it's mostly because I understand a lot of men aren't religious. I think the reason for the comment is just the fact that these men are so obsessed with an issue that by definition could destroy a woman's life, and yet it doesn't affect them at all. By the way I can tell this is more of an issue with men more than women, but it's also more of an issue with white pe…
/r/MensRights29/10/24 10:38 AM
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What about if the man wants the baby but the woman wants to abort it? It is 50% his DNA and he can't force her to keep it. Any way you look at it she has more privileges in this situation than she does, assuming abortion is legal in their area. In all honestly I don't think you can call nine months of pregnancy, several hours of intense childbirth, getting up at all hours of the night, and paying for hospital costs and baby stuff as "more privileges". I think she deserves more choices than he do…
/r/MensRights29/10/24 10:11 AM
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If a woman gets an abortion this generally saves everybody money so the responsibility ends there. If a child is born the responsibility only begins. I haven't really thought much about male issues regarding the financial ramifications of children they didn't want in the first place. As far as the theory of it I totally agree with it but at the same time, theory is not reality. For example, if a man simply has a one night stand with a woman then it's normal to suppose he doesn't want any connect…
/r/MensRights27/10/24 02:31 PM
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People have a right to their own personal philosophy/religion overall, but I don't think they necessarily have a right to every specific aspect of it, depending on the details. For example, I believe people have a right to own a gun, and and a right to get drunk. But I don't believe anyone has a right to take a gun to my house. I don't believe anyone has a right to show up drunk at a Walmart and harass people. A real life example very recently is a man in Texas that punched an election poll work…
/r/MensRights27/10/24 02:10 PM
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Nobody has rights. . . Those restrict people's "autonomy". You have no idea what you're talking about. When people talk about body/ bodily autonomy it's based on the concept of being separate, controlling, independent. By contrast, a fetus is non-autonomous because it's dependent. If a person is hooked up to a machine for important bodily functions, then they too can be said to be non-autonomous in that sense. Having freedom and autonomy doesn't restrict rights, but having a lack of rights restr…
/r/MensRights27/10/24 01:41 PM
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As far as me sounding like a Democrat bot, the question posed was explicitly political in nature (Why Should I Support Abortion Rights. . .) but for your information I'm a diehard independent so my focus is not to try to convert republicans into democrats by a long shot. I've argued with liberals too and would prefer more people to be independent. My only reason for checking out this site was to understand what the proposed men's issues are since this is not something I'm familar with. As far as…
/r/MensRights27/10/24 11:05 AM
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What the GOP wants to do to women has already started with abortion bans. They've also talked openly about restricting birth control, getting rid of no fault divorce (which they see as an advantage to women), and even replacing women's suffrage with a "household" vote. A lot of what you are saying sounds like conspiracy theories. Pretty much everything I noted was based on a GOP foundation, pundit, politican, and/or conference. I doubt Trump himself would try to do all this anytime soon, but if …
/r/MensRights27/10/24 12:43 AM
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I already asked another guy this but in your opinion how do you believe these things should be handled? I'm mostly assuming we're looking at unmarried couples who have various types of relationships but my point is do you think a verbal agreement is enough or someone signs papers?
/r/MensRights25/10/24 10:12 PM
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Okay, I see. Do you have a way you think things should work. Well, I'm assuming a situation where you willingly have sex with a woman and aren't married to her? Do you think a verbal agreement is enough or someone signs papers? Also, do you suspect some men are voting for Trump/GOP literally because they believe either Republicans will give them more rights, or that the Democrats will take them away? 🤔 By the way, I wasn't trying to be hard on you but I've run into several men saying strange thi…
/r/MensRights25/10/24 10:09 PM
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No, I've argued with lots of people about this and it's nothing but a religious argument. Their case is based on the rights of a lower form of life taking precedence over a higher form of life. (Quite the opposite if a man kills a deer. )They are literally redefining murder to something most civilized people don't agree with. All these stupid religious people are a threat to this country because their social mores are more similar to a backwards third world country.
/r/MensRights25/10/24 06:26 PM
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I honestly think a man should be able to get out of child support the first time. The problem is the way some men keep doing it over and over and the government (taxpayer) has to pick up the tab. If you don't know what I mean you can look it up but some men have MANY kids from different women.
/r/MensRights25/10/24 06:04 PM
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What rights do you perceive you don't have? Are you an American voting for the GOP? Is Trump fighting for your right to whatever it is?
/r/MensRights25/10/24 05:41 PM
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You don't have any rights either? Rights to what? Is this one of those 'men are emotional, women are logical' moments. What right do you perceive you are missing?
/r/MensRights25/10/24 05:39 PM
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Shame us for being men? What percentage of the female population is trying to "shame" or do anything against you? Is this one of those 'men are emotional, women are logical' moments because you don't have to do anything to vote FOR anyone's rights if you weren't part of the group trying to take rights AWAY in the first place.
/r/MensRights25/10/24 05:34 PM
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If bodily autonomy is essential for women, why shouldn’t autonomy over financial obligations be a valid discussion for men? So you honestly perceive that a man who is drafted into war and loses complete bodily autonomy is the same as a man who pays taxes?
/r/MensRights25/10/24 04:03 PM
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A right is more or less an allowance, much like some countries "allow" guns while others restrict them. If people don't have control over their own bodies then they have no rights at all.
/r/MensRights25/10/24 03:58 PM
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I totally understand your issue with some progressives. I'm originally from the rural South and it's unbelievable some of the negative commentary I see in progressive spaces about people in red states, rural inhabitants, or Southerners in general. I also find some of the things liberals do definitely constitutes my idea of prejudice against white people and/or men, but it depends on what it is. I'm not overly reactionary about it like some conservatives, but neither am I as dismissive about it l…
/r/MensRights25/10/24 12:25 AM
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But the problem strictly speaking isn't the "feminists" or "masculinists" either way. The real problem is a lack of logic and critical thinking so people go around acting according to their own instincts and feelings, jumping to conclusions and basically acting like an idiot. Be definition you can't fix this by always siding with one side over the other.
/r/MensRights24/10/24 11:50 PM
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Excuse me, the Democrats plan to enslave men? What specifically are you saying the Democratic party is trying to do to men? What the GOP wants to do to women has already started with abortion bans. They've also talked openly about restricting birth control, getting rid of no fault divorce (which they see as an advantage to women), and even replacing women's suffrage with a "household" vote. As if that wasn't enough, a LOT of GOP pundits and average Republican voters have made all kinds of openly…
/r/MensRights24/10/24 10:30 PM
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I think what you say is too long winded and unnecesary with the tissue stuff. Ideally, men shouldn't have to pay for any children unless he was in a relationship with the woman AND he was okay with having children or didn't make it clear he didn't want them. Admittedly that might be tricky to implement in real life? Women will oppose men's equivalent rights (or more correctly a single fundamental right applicable to both) because the current situation gives them unreasonable and unequal advantag…
/r/MensRights24/10/24 01:17 AM
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I'm a woman and I totally agree with you. I actually thought such a thing already existed. For example, I have a male cousin who adopted his wife's young son and there was something about signing papers over but looking back I suppose it was just to give my cousin the right to adopt him in and of itself. Having said this I'm not sure most women would disagree with this? I don't really know but a feminist sub doesn't necessarily mean anything because a lot of them, for example, keep insisting tha…
/r/MensRights24/10/24 12:52 AM
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According to this site, "single" means one who is unmarried, not living with someone, or in a "commmited relationship". The last one could be a little bit tricky but the first two require a level of commitment and limitation because a man cannot live and be in a relationship (openly) with more than one woman. I should note that I saw another site a while back relating to the Netherlands with almost exactly the same data so I bring it up to suggest this is unlikely to be an unusal American issue.…
/r/MensRights01/10/24 01:19 PM
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I can update this with some (U.S. based) info: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/psdt_08-19-20_dating-relationships-015-png/ If you scroll down to the bar graph it shows that for young people (aged 18 to 29) 51% of men are single vs. only 32% of women in that age group. By contrast, of people that are 65 and up, only 21% of men are single vs. 49% of women.
/r/MensRights01/10/24 06:02 AM
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The only reason you feel that way is because you sleep with men who have all of the options so it seems to be true in your little bubble but isn't actually true. No, I don't date so I'm a million miles away from this. My comments are just pointing out the obvious. Many average men out there have been waiting for their average wives for literal years but those women have been sleeping around with men instead because they refuse to "settle." I did a comment on this not long ago and I don't have th…
/r/MensRights01/10/24 05:47 AM
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It's just that modern women seem to be content with casual sex and their female friendships over having relationships with men. It's so sad that it has to be this way but women have to change on their own. Do they want monogamy again? So you honestly believe it's mostly WOMEN who desire casual sex? And that women try to avoid male relationships/friendship in favor of female ones? Lol, there's way more men who desire constant casual sex than women. And it's mostly men who worry about being stuck …
/r/MensRights01/10/24 05:06 AM
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